Re: [Oorexx-devel] ooRexx on Windows 8

[Jason Martin]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uptime

That is really good with programming, testing and running new applications.

Thanks again.





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Re: [Oorexx-devel] ooRexx on Windows 8

[Mike Cowlishaw]

Does the machine have a six month uptime? 

Not sure what you mean by 'uptime'  .. it has been powered on since January
(actually for 2-3 years I think .. I accidentally powered it off once in
2018).  It's a very low-power-use PC; fans rarely run.

Is it connected to the internet? 

Yes.  Always.  I am using it to write this post 

Mike

 

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Re: [Oorexx-devel] ooRexx on Windows 8

[Jeremy Nicoll]

On Wed, 14 Jul 2021, at 17:15, Mike Cowlishaw wrote:

> My big complaint/problem with Win10 is that its windows don't have 
> borders ...

Eek!  Maybe I'll stay on W8.1...  Googling for "windows 10 window borders" 
found some ideas, eg at 

https://www.tenforums.com/general-support/136111-any-way-get-active-window-borders-back.html
and
https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/7935-install-aerolite-theme-windows-10-a.html

Lots of people seem to hate window borders, but some of those seem to be people 
who like to 
snap a window to one or other side of the screen and presumably therefore don't 
have lots and
lots of windows open at once.

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Re: [Oorexx-devel] ooRexx on Windows 8

[Jason Martin]

Does the machine have a six month uptime?

Is it connected to the internet?

Just curious.

Thanks,

On 2021-07-14 12:15, Mike Cowlishaw wrote:

last reboot was in January, or thereabouts,
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Re: [Oorexx-devel] ooRexx on Windows 8

[Mike Cowlishaw]

Also apologies for continuing the off-topic :-).
 
On Win7 I use elap.rex as my shell, so no problems there :-).  Also for me
Win 7 is very stable -- last reboot was in January, or thereabouts, and that
only because I installed a new application (that probably didn't need a
reboot, in truth).
 
My big complaint/problem with Win10 is that its windows don't have borders,
and since I often have 6 or more open when programming (editing a few source
files, running test cases, viewing text files) and many have the same
background colour (blue or black) everything merges together and it is
really hard to read one thing from another.   I suppose I could write a new
editor that included a border, but having written 13 text editors already in
this lifetime I'd rather do something new ... :-)
 
Mike
 
 
 


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From: P.O. Jonsson [mailto:oor...@jonases.se] 
Sent: 14 July 2021 14:50
To: Open Object Rexx Developer Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Oorexx-devel] ooRexx on Windows 8


This is getting off topic (ooRexx on Windows versions) but briefly: 

Like most people I liked Windows 7 for is useful GUI and hated W8 for the
opposite reason. W10 brought some usefulness back but I always add Classic
Shell to it to make it more like W7. Hint for Mike.

W10 is IMO really stable by now and I have it running for weeks without
getting messed up. Compared to W7 where I had to reboot daily it is an
improvement. Also it is not getting gobbled up with garbage so I do not have
to reinstall it every year as I had to do with W7.

I had a Windows 8 copy standing unused in its box (like most W8 copies :-) )
so I thought I could put it to use for ooRexx. I am having some problems
running the test framework, unclear why. See Ticket 1774 for details. It
might be related to the fact that I am using a newer Visual Studio version
than the official W10 Jenkins build machine.

Hälsningar/Regards/Grüsse,
P.O. Jonsson
oor...@jonases.se




Am 14.07.2021 um 15:07 schrieb Jeremy Nicoll
:

On Tue, 13 Jul 2021, at 22:31, P.O. Jonsson wrote:


Hi Jeremy,



Squawk!



It is 8.1. Professional, and I do not think anyone in his right mind
is actually using Windows 8 or 8.1 for that matter ;-)



Well, I'm using 8.1.  Right mind?  See my initial comment...  (I have 
a thing about birds and - elsewhere - often squawk or quack as a
greeting.  My professional guise must just have slipped.)

In my case I'm never likely to be an early adopter of any of the MS 
OSes as they don't seem to be able to get things right, at the start.

I'd expected by now to be using Win 10, but there never seems to 
be enough time and spare energy/concentration (I have a chronic
illness) to configure a new machine, reinstall all the applications I
use - probably in newer versions - and migrate my own programs
onto it.  It's nearly at the top of my to-do list though...




The whole point in installing Windows 7 and Windows 8 is to see if
they behave differently in the build and test of ooRexx.



Ah.

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Re: [Oorexx-devel] ooRexx on Windows 8

[P.O. Jonsson]

This is getting off topic (ooRexx on Windows versions) but briefly:

Like most people I liked Windows 7 for is useful GUI and hated W8 for the 
opposite reason. W10 brought some usefulness back but I always add Classic 
Shell to it to make it more like W7. Hint for Mike.

W10 is IMO really stable by now and I have it running for weeks without getting 
messed up. Compared to W7 where I had to reboot daily it is an improvement. 
Also it is not getting gobbled up with garbage so I do not have to reinstall it 
every year as I had to do with W7.

I had a Windows 8 copy standing unused in its box (like most W8 copies :-) ) so 
I thought I could put it to use for ooRexx. I am having some problems running 
the test framework, unclear why. See Ticket 1774 for details. It might be 
related to the fact that I am using a newer Visual Studio version than the 
official W10 Jenkins build machine.

Hälsningar/Regards/Grüsse,
P.O. Jonsson
oor...@jonases.se



> Am 14.07.2021 um 15:07 schrieb Jeremy Nicoll :
> 
> On Tue, 13 Jul 2021, at 22:31, P.O. Jonsson wrote:
>> Hi Jeremy,
> 
> Squawk!
> 
>> It is 8.1. Professional, and I do not think anyone in his right mind
>> is actually using Windows 8 or 8.1 for that matter ;-)
> 
> Well, I'm using 8.1.  Right mind?  See my initial comment...  (I have 
> a thing about birds and - elsewhere - often squawk or quack as a
> greeting.  My professional guise must just have slipped.)
> 
> In my case I'm never likely to be an early adopter of any of the MS 
> OSes as they don't seem to be able to get things right, at the start.
> 
> I'd expected by now to be using Win 10, but there never seems to 
> be enough time and spare energy/concentration (I have a chronic
> illness) to configure a new machine, reinstall all the applications I
> use - probably in newer versions - and migrate my own programs
> onto it.  It's nearly at the top of my to-do list though...
> 
> 
>> The whole point in installing Windows 7 and Windows 8 is to see if
>> they behave differently in the build and test of ooRexx.
> 
> Ah.
> 
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> 
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Re: [Oorexx-devel] ooRexx on Windows 8

[Jeremy Nicoll]

On Tue, 13 Jul 2021, at 22:31, P.O. Jonsson wrote:
> Hi Jeremy,

Squawk!

> It is 8.1. Professional, and I do not think anyone in his right mind
> is actually using Windows 8 or 8.1 for that matter ;-)

Well, I'm using 8.1.  Right mind?  See my initial comment...  (I have 
a thing about birds and - elsewhere - often squawk or quack as a
greeting.  My professional guise must just have slipped.)

In my case I'm never likely to be an early adopter of any of the MS 
OSes as they don't seem to be able to get things right, at the start.

I'd expected by now to be using Win 10, but there never seems to 
be enough time and spare energy/concentration (I have a chronic
illness) to configure a new machine, reinstall all the applications I
use - probably in newer versions - and migrate my own programs
onto it.  It's nearly at the top of my to-do list though...


> The whole point in installing Windows 7 and Windows 8 is to see if
> they behave differently in the build and test of ooRexx.

Ah.

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Re: [Oorexx-devel] ooRexx on Windows 8

[Mike Cowlishaw]

It is 8.1. Professional, and I do not think anyone in his right mind is
actually using Windows 8 or 8.1 for that matter ;-)  
 
I cannot disagree, but on my main PC I still run Windows 7 -- it's user
interface is so much better than Windows 10.
 
[I do run Windows 10 on my 'travel laptop' which at the moment I only use
for testing MapGazer and PanGazer on Win 10...]
 
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Re: [Oorexx-devel] ooRexx on Windows 8

[P.O. Jonsson]

Hi Jeremy,

It is 8.1. Professional, and I do not think anyone in his right mind is 
actually using Windows 8 or 8.1 for that matter ;-) It is almost as extinct as 
Microsoft BOB 

The whole point in installing Windows 7 and Windows 8 is to see if they behave 
differently in the build and test of ooRexx.

Hälsningar/Regards/Grüsse,
P.O. Jonsson
oor...@jonases.se



> Am 13.07.2021 um 22:39 schrieb Jeremy Nicoll :
> 
> On Tue, 13 Jul 2021, at 09:17, P.O. Jonsson wrote:
>> I have successfully added 64 bit Windows 8 to the Jenkins Zoo...
> 
> Do you really mean the base Windows 8, or 8.1 ?  
> 
> I would have thought that nearly everyone running Win 8 or 8.1
> would be using the latter. 
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Re: [Oorexx-devel] ooRexx on Windows 8

[Jeremy Nicoll]

On Tue, 13 Jul 2021, at 09:17, P.O. Jonsson wrote:
> I have successfully added 64 bit Windows 8 to the Jenkins Zoo...

Do you really mean the base Windows 8, or 8.1 ?  

I would have thought that nearly everyone running Win 8 or 8.1
would be using the latter. 

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Re: [Oorexx-devel] ooRexx on Windows 8

[P.O. Jonsson]

I am moving this to the bug section, there is more to it.

Hälsningar/Regards/Grüsse,
P.O. Jonsson
oor...@jonases.se



> Am 13.07.2021 um 10:17 schrieb P.O. Jonsson :
> 
> I have successfully added 64 bit Windows 8 to the Jenkins Zoo and can build 
> 64 bit ooRexx with „success“.
> 
> However, in the testing I get stuck early, on "Executing 
> ...\ooRexx\API\oo\FUNCTION.testGroup“, the 3rd testgroup to run.
> 
> I have copied the Windows 10 build steps and running the same on Windows 10 
> quickly passes this testGroup. Any ideas what can be wrong here? Please look 
> at the running job in Jenkins for details.
> 
> Hälsningar/Regards/Grüsse,
> P.O. Jonsson
> oor...@jonases.se 
> 
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