Re: [osol-discuss] Re: What's the best backup utility with user friendlyGUI in Unix/Linux world?

2006-04-22 Thread Al Hopper
On Sat, 22 Apr 2006, Brett Wayne wrote:

> A second on Legato ...

I remember working with Legato a long time ago.  Did they ever solve the
issue of creating _huge_ index/tracking files?
In some cases, the Legato "tracking" files were much larger than the size
of an incremental backup - and you needed these files in order to restore
data.

Like I said - my experience is dated ... just curious.

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[osol-discuss] Re: [Fwd: RFE: Replace /usr/css/bin/make with

2006-04-22 Thread Nikolay Molchanov
> Roland Mainz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > How different is their "make" version (or better:
> What are the differences ?) ?

GNU makefiles and SUN makefiles have different syntax,
and this is the main difference between "gmake" and "dmake".
Sun Studio "dmake" (in serial mode) is compatible with Sun "make",
they both can work with Sun makefiles, but cannot work with GNU
makefiles. We plan to provide a compatibility mode in "dmake",
which will allow to work with GNU makefiles.

> > "dmake is not very portable" (why ?) ?
> 
> Well, I did look into the source a few years ago.
> If you have the old Univertity sources, I just recommend you to to the same.

I'm responsible for "dmake", and I can say that "dmake" is portable.
It was ported to Linux x86 several years ago, and now "dmake" for Linux 
is shipped with Sun Studio 11. It is 100% compatible with Solaris "dmake" 
(they have the same set of features and the same [high] level of quality). 
A month ago I've been asked to port "dmake" to Linux SPARC (well, not an 
official port, just to create an experimental version). It took about 2 days 
to port "dmake", and to port and run regression tests. 
The result was unbelievable - only about 10 of 400 tests failed, and there
were no critical failures (just some differences in the log files).

Thanks,
Nik
 
 
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Re: [osol-discuss] A grand unification ?

2006-04-22 Thread Dennis Clarke

> Dennis Clarke wrote:
>> ALL :
>>
>>
>> I am certainly willing to talk. And listen. Make changes. Make peace.
>>
>>
> Here - Here, +1


I have waited a LOT of hours to see a reply.

Thank you .



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Re: [osol-discuss] A grand unification ?

2006-04-22 Thread Paul Gress

Dennis Clarke wrote:

ALL :


I am certainly willing to talk. And listen. Make changes. Make peace.

  

Here - Here, +1
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Re: [osol-discuss] What's the best backup utility with user friendly GUI in Unix/Linux world?

2006-04-22 Thread Derek E. Lewis
On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 21:31, Yu-Hui Liu wrote:
> Hi, there,
> 
> Question is quite simple as subject. What's your prefer?

Tivoli Storage Manager is an enterprise-level backup solution from IBM,
much like Veritas Netbackup.  It uses a client-server schema -- a server
manages the tape library, disk storage, etc., and the client contacts
the server to specify which files are to be backed up whenever its
schedule rolls around.

The client, itself, runs two processes dsmsched (the process response
for contacting the server initially) and dsmc (the client daemon).  The
dsmc process runs a web server on the client, where one may specify the
files to be backed up and to restore files that have been backed up
previously -- it's quite nice.

The only downsides of TSM is that its (1) not free (2) requires a server
and (3) not available for Solaris/x86.
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[osol-discuss] Re: What's the best backup utility with user friendlyGUI in Unix/Linux world?

2006-04-22 Thread Brett Wayne
A second on Legato ...
 
 
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[osol-discuss] Re: Solaris on Intel Macs??

2006-04-22 Thread Brett Wayne
Given the progress you guys have made on getting it booted do you think these 
fixes will make it into an Express build I can download sometime soon ?
 
 
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[osol-discuss] Re: Google Summer of Code: Call for OpenSolaris Participation

2006-04-22 Thread Sh
Yeah,I'm a student too and I want to take part in some project

My main specialization is security,application porting and just developing
 
 
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Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Google Summer of Code: Call for OpenSolaris Participation

2006-04-22 Thread Casper . Dik

>I am a student developer and i would like to work on the following idea :
>
>the counterpart of powernow -> a speedstep driver for opensolaris
>- supporting frequency scaling for Pentium-M processors
>
>i have seen a threat in the laptop forum that anybody is working on this but 
>nothing is
>released therefore the question is this a project for SoC2006 ?

Someone just contributed some Enehanced Speed Step code and as
part of that we now have a "pluggable" architecture for different
mechanisms.

I'll push one out shortly, but I'm thinking of a now which isn't
"powernow" (which for me is the most compelling reason for no
external release).

My current thinking is "PowerStep".

Casper
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[osol-discuss] Re: Google Summer of Code: Call for OpenSolaris Participation

2006-04-22 Thread mario heimel
I am a student developer and i would like to work on the following idea :

the counterpart of powernow -> a speedstep driver for opensolaris
- supporting frequency scaling for Pentium-M processors

i have seen a threat in the laptop forum that anybody is working on this but 
nothing is
released therefore the question is this a project for SoC2006 ?
 
 
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Re: [osol-discuss] [Fwd: OpenSolaris attacked by Novell]

2006-04-22 Thread Dennis Clarke


> With that said, I'll post to my blog about this "controversary article" in
> the next day or two.
>

I for one, love your blog.  I will watch for that !


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[osol-discuss] A grand unification ?

2006-04-22 Thread Dennis Clarke

ALL :

It has been nearly a year together here.

We are the greatest collection of Solaris people in the world and we are
divided on so many issues.  I would love to see a grand unification. 
Any great relationship is like a separate entity onto itself and while
soft pseudo-science may not be the forte of this crowd I think
observation and analysis is a strength that lives here in abundance.

Sun has made the greatest of leaps and taken Solaris and made it wide
open. Free! Compilers and tools free!  This is a move that no one would
have predicted only three years ago.  Maybe we can make some great leaps
also and work together as teams. Perhaps we can address a few things
here and then move forwards.

I know that the open source dynamic is one in which people wander into a
room, they do things that suit them, meet and talk, take what they need
and then leave.  Or they really like the room and they stay a long long
while.

Can we build that room to work and play in ?

I am certainly willing to talk. And listen. Make changes. Make peace.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project proposal: Nevada Companion Software

2006-04-22 Thread ken mays
So far, three systems have come to pass which are
impressive for auto porting code to Solaris:

1. Portaris (Gentoo's Portage for Solaris)
2. Nexenta's Autobuilder
3. Blastwave's SVN/builder (maintained by Cory)

There are the others done by NetBSD, OpenPKG, and many
other people porting open software to Solaris.

Gentoo has one of the most impressive GUI type systems
which tells you the package versions that have passed
within a certain app/lib across multiple platforms.

Debian's buildd system is impressive in that you can
see the most current packages being compiled and if
they were successful or not. Very simple, yet
stability and access to the site has varied over the
years. A key thing to think about for developer
support.

As for the Companion DVD, a lot of software on the
Nevada builds are more updated so just keeping the DVD
updated is good. Mainly, what software you'd find
within a Suse 10 DVD. You'd want to basically load up
Solaris and Suse and be able to compile and run
applications within both enviroments without too many
issues. 

Reality is this takes a little time and effort to get
apps ported to Solaris and having to deal with
dependancies of other libs. Time consuming for most
maintainers if those libs are not available (or
difficult to port because of OS implementation
oddities).

Other than that, the high level processes and
procedures on how all of this work is going to get
done...

Ken Mays
Earthlink, Inc.


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Re: [osol-discuss] Having trouble with HP LTO 3 drive and Solaris (10)

2006-04-22 Thread James C. McPherson

Gregory C. Ramos wrote:

What is the correct entry for /kernel/drv/st.conf
for an HP LTO-3 drive


Hi Gregory,
you can find the correct entries in this url:

http://cvs.opensolaris.org/source/xref/on/usr/src/uts/common/io/scsi/targets/st_conf.c#1105

Yes, that's from the Nevada release, but a quick check of the
history link

http://cvs.opensolaris.org/source/history/on/usr/src/uts/common/io/scsi/targets/st_conf.c

reveals that the relevant RFE is

5103484 HP LTO-3 (Ultrium 3) Support Required Natively in st tape target driver

which was integrated (pre-FCS of s10) into s10 build 71.

http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=5103484


That's all a roundabout way of saying that you shouldn't
have to do anything to st.conf for your HP LTO-3 drive
since the support is compiled in.


best regards,
James C. McPherson
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Re: [osol-discuss] [Fwd: OpenSolaris attacked by Novell]

2006-04-22 Thread Alan DuBoff
On Tuesday 18 April 2006 07:28 am, jonathan schwartz wrote:
> Gentlefolk, y'all have blogs for a reason :)

Sure, but we need some guidance. Sometimes having someone like you to lead, 
will allow us to follow!

This is one of the better pieces of bad press we've gotten, and it shows that 
we're threatening them. This is exactly what we should want to see.

With that said, I'll post to my blog about this "controversary article" in the 
next day or two.

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[osol-discuss] Re: Project proposal: Nevada Companion Software

2006-04-22 Thread Alan DuBoff
On Monday 17 April 2006 08:05 pm, Eric Boutilier wrote:
> Hi Alan,
>
> On Mon, 17 Apr 2006, Alan DuBoff wrote:
>  > ...
>  > everyone, the blastwaves, the nexentras, pkgsrc, et
>  > all...or is this even possible? I think it would be
>  > possible to give these folks an > option by having a
>  > common set of libs that Sun and Community participates
>  > in, what do you think?
>
> We can certainly dream... So are you thinking that we
> try to establish something an /opt/groflib (GRand-unified
> OpenSolaris Freeware Library), mangaged by a non-partisan
> "governing" body. And encourage all stacks to contribute
> to maintaining a high quality/quantity /opt/groflib, and
> (more importantly, (IMO) agree to treat /opt/groflib with the
> same deference as they now treat /usr/lib...

Eric,

I don't know yet. IOW, I would like to first understand if that is even 
possible. To do that I think we need to understand what each party with 
interest in this would need, or if they would be interested. I don't know 
that this would work, but yes, if we had one set of common libs that all the 
various projects could build off of, maybe we could control the fragmentation 
in the system that continues to happen with various distros of freeware.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project proposal: Nevada Companion Software

2006-04-22 Thread Alan DuBoff
(moving to companion-discuss)

On Wednesday 19 April 2006 08:35 am, Eric Boutilier wrote:
> I'm not sure Nexenta's implementation is the way to go though. It seems
> to me that Phil's pkg-get -- being designed around Sun's implementation
> of the SVr4 packaging standard -- seems like the better candidate, or
> maybe something new based on the patch software (that is currently used
> for updating Solaris)...

I agree, but want to understand things better before saying.

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