[osol-discuss] analyzing process dump with dbx

[Akhil Jain]

Hi  all,

I am trying to analyze a process dump with dbx. The process has 10 threads but 
in the core file dbx is showing only two threads. Can any-one explain why?

Thanks
Akhil Jain
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Re: [osol-discuss] Install from repository

[Igor Korot]

Hi, Shawn,
You've been a great help. Thank you.
I sucessfully installed ss-dev, mySQL-5 and OSOLvpanel-mysql.
I also updated the system because of the other problem and re-booted.

Now, for some reason, I don't see a way to start either C++ IDE or mySQL GUI 
from GNOME menu or panel.
Can you help me with that?

Also is there a unixODBC/iODBC package I can install?

Thank you.
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Re: [osol-discuss] OT: Re: Oracle 10g on OpenSolaris (Solaris 5.11)

[Patrick Ale]

On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 12:51 AM, Peter Tribble wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Glenn Lagasse wrote:
>> * casper@sun.com (casper@sun.com) wrote:

> And the pendulum has swung way too far.

Ermm.. excuse my ignorance or gmail mangling up this thread but...
what does this have to do with Oracle 10g?
I have about 20 emails in this thread and i was kinda hoping someone
would ask how to install Oracle 10g on Solaris 5.11 and someone else
would answer but all I see mentioned is what should be possible on the
OS install time and what should not be...

Anyway, just my two cents about installing 100s of servers without
interaction, isnt that why there are things like Jumpstart and other
fancy tools, I don't see the fuzz really...

Or I am just tired, that's also possible. Anyway, if a way to install
Oracle was mentioned in this thread, feel free to copy/paste me that
off-list cause I seriously can't find it and I'd be very interested in
knowing how to get that working cause I don't think it's officialy
supported by Oracle and I don't think it will be...


Cheers,


Patrick
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Re: [osol-discuss] OT: Re: Oracle 10g on OpenSolaris (Solaris 5.11)

[Peter Tribble]

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Glenn Lagasse wrote:
> * casper@sun.com (casper@sun.com) wrote:
>>
>
>> "Visual panels" do not work when you need to install 100s of systems.
>
> No, but a package which once installed as part of the automated
> installer that creates an smf service and method to do post-install
> customization would work.

So AI is going to provide this package as a standard feature, right?

Expecting everyone to independently implement this feature seems wasteful.

>> The fact that you are required to configure a system after it is installed
>> is a bug.  Any system which requires post-install configuration is broken
>> to a point that is not usable.
>
> That's your opinion of course, I and others pretty strongly disagree.
> There are things that should absolutely be asked at install time.
> However, install time is not the proper place to ask every possible
> question someone might want to configure.  There's a balance to be
> struck.

And the pendulum has swung way too far.

The current Solaris installer isn't too far off. What is needs is a clean
user-friendly interface, not removing completely.

>   Of course there are differences between an interactive install
> and a 'hands-off' install.  I think I've provided an answer for how to
> configure 'anything' post-install during an automated installation.

To configure 'anything' requires essentially arbitrary scripting. First you
tell us that arbitrary scripting will never be allowed, then you tell us that
it's necessary, but we all have to implement our own mechanisms to
get it.

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Re: [osol-discuss] ATI Radeon HD2400 PRO PCI-e

[Mutahir]

Hi Experts,

I have successfully installed the Opensolaris 200906 on my dell dimension now ; 

Good thing is that it the gui is working with Ati 2400HD PRO but extra graphics 
isn't as advised by blacknov (2D/3D acceleration) ; when I do select the extra 
graphics option in appearances a white screen appears and i press ESC key to 
come out of it and save my GUI :-)

I am glad that I have a working install atleast to practice and get familiar 
with opensolaris.

Now, if you could give advises on where to look for what and any advise on what 
to get familiar with first would be great ; I have attached the systeminfo file 
here as well and have submitted on the hcl.

Kind regards
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Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] DRAFT: OpenSolaris Use Case Project Proposal

[Steven Acres]

Che Kristo wrote:
Communities are more of a collection of people with similar interests. A 
project is a collection of activities with a beginning and an end which 
is what I think best describes what we are discussing here. The 
"use-case project" would then feed into many communities (desktop, 
security, sys admin, etc).


On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 1:30 AM, Steven Acres > wrote:


Peter Tribble wrote:

Jim,

[changed facilitation-discuss to @opensolaris.org
, not @sun.com ]

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Jim Walkermailto:james.wal...@sun.com>> wrote:

o Project: OpenSolaris Use Case Project

...

Example areas of interest can include:


Systems administration seems conspicuous by its absence!

o Project Members:

Need 5 or more initial members, they will become Core
Contributors.

o Facilitator:

Need 1 facilitator.


Nit: Core contributors and Facilitators apply to communities,
not projects,
so that wouldn't apply.

Would this proposal fit better as a community?


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That's a good definition of the two Che. The proposal and the future 
working of it's implementation seems worded more towards a 'community', 
with a set of 'projects' i.e. sysadmin-usecase, desktop-usecase, etc., 
as I understand it, which is why I asked.


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Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] DRAFT: OpenSolaris Use Case Project Proposal

[Che Kristo]

Communities are more of a collection of people with similar interests. A
project is a collection of activities with a beginning and an end which is
what I think best describes what we are discussing here. The "use-case
project" would then feed into many communities (desktop, security, sys
admin, etc).

On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 1:30 AM, Steven Acres wrote:

> Peter Tribble wrote:
>
>> Jim,
>>
>> [changed facilitation-discuss to @opensolaris.org, not @sun.com]
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Jim Walker wrote:
>>
>>> o Project: OpenSolaris Use Case Project
>>>
>> ...
>>
>>> Example areas of interest can include:
>>>
>>
>> Systems administration seems conspicuous by its absence!
>>
>>  o Project Members:
>>>
>>> Need 5 or more initial members, they will become Core Contributors.
>>>
>>> o Facilitator:
>>>
>>> Need 1 facilitator.
>>>
>>
>> Nit: Core contributors and Facilitators apply to communities, not
>> projects,
>> so that wouldn't apply.
>>
>>  Would this proposal fit better as a community?
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Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] DRAFT: OpenSolaris Use Case Project Proposal

[Steven Acres]

Peter Tribble wrote:

Jim,

[changed facilitation-discuss to @opensolaris.org, not @sun.com]

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Jim Walker wrote:

o Project: OpenSolaris Use Case Project

...

Example areas of interest can include:


Systems administration seems conspicuous by its absence!


o Project Members:

Need 5 or more initial members, they will become Core Contributors.

o Facilitator:

Need 1 facilitator.


Nit: Core contributors and Facilitators apply to communities, not projects,
so that wouldn't apply.


Would this proposal fit better as a community?

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Re: [osol-discuss] ATI Radeon HD2400 PRO PCI-e

[Mutahir]

Hi Ken,

Thank you for your prompt response, How would I force the xorg.conf file as you 
have mentioned ; also with 2d acceleration i would still get the same gui isn't 
it ? I think only features like compiz and animated menus stuff would be 
missing ?

On the nvidia card, If i get Nvidia 8400gs would that be supported natively or 
would I have to install it seperately through command line.

Kind regards

PS : I am new to this and trying to understanding how device drivers are 
handled/added in solaris/opensolaris
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Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] DRAFT: OpenSolaris Use Case Project Proposal

[Peter Tribble]

Jim,

[changed facilitation-discuss to @opensolaris.org, not @sun.com]

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Jim Walker wrote:
>
> o Project: OpenSolaris Use Case Project
...
> Example areas of interest can include:

Systems administration seems conspicuous by its absence!

> o Project Members:
>
> Need 5 or more initial members, they will become Core Contributors.
>
> o Facilitator:
>
> Need 1 facilitator.

Nit: Core contributors and Facilitators apply to communities, not projects,
so that wouldn't apply.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle 10g on OpenSolaris (Solaris 5.11)

[Joerg Schilling]

Alexander  wrote:

> > The GNU tools do not even support Linux specific
> > features, why do you believe 
> > that they will ever start supporting Solaris specific
> > features?
> But in other case we have the following case:
> 1) A lot of users (and what is more significant, developers) get used to work 
> with GNU tools. So, even to compile firefox we need GNU userland. 

This is not a primary result of the "extra features" but a result of the 
fact that Sun did neglect the universities in the second half of the 1990s.

Up to 1995, Solaris was the major development platform for most software 
projects. Later, more and more projects started on Linux and as Linux is not
standard compliant enough, this resulted in a lock out for Solaris as the 
related projects did not follow the rules from the OSS movement that have 
been in used over 15 years before: Write portable code and communicate with 
people from other OS platforms.

Some non-cooperative people started to pray that developers do not need to take 
care about the so called "proprietary" platforms because there is Linux. 

Another mistake from Sun was to neglect the Solaris userland programs since
the same time the students have been neglected. 

Now we still do not have a situtaion where there is not way to escape from.
The FSF neglects the "GNU tools" sincs aprox. 1994, when the habbit of 
Mr. Stallman caused most of the developers to stop working for the FSF.
There are now new developers but the development (if you still like to call
it development) is extremely slow. GNU tar fixed a show stopper bug 2 years ago 
although the bug was reported by me in 1993 and I am still waiting for a fix 
on a major GNU make bugs that was reported by me and accepted as a hard bug by
it's maintainers in 1997 already.

Now we have a OpenSolaris community and the Solaris userland could be enhanced 
by the Community. I e.g. have several enhanced and bug-fixed OpenSolaris tools 
waiting for integration back into OpenSolaris for years. Let's see whether Sun
eventually takes this chance


> 2) But a lot of Solaris native utils, respectively, relies on 
> Solaris-specific behavior. 
> And as result both kind of tools  should be supported Quite strange... 

The theory says that OpenSource development makes it easier to collaborate but 
in fact, OpenSource development resulted in more incompatibilities and less 
collaboration than before. Try e.g. to count the number of SSL implementations
that are "needeed" on OpenSolaris in order to make all software usable.

> May be there are some ways to make GNU tools at least do what Solaris tools 
> can do (to improve end user experience)... At least, why there can be some 
> objections from GNU projects commiters if patches for GNU tools enhancing 
> their functionality on Solaris are suggested to them?

Did you ask Linux users why there is no Linux support in the GNU tools?

> Of course, another way is to make own Solaris tools more GNU-like (for 
> example as it is done in FreeBSD). It will make life of developers (and 
> admins trying to compile soft on Solaris) easier. But it is not always 
> possible...

FreeBSD is a good example for UNIX based development that still includes a
maintained own userland.

If the strategies for OpenSolaris will not be changed soon, we will end up
with a OpenSolaris kernel only and then nobody will use Indiana as people may 
switch to nexenta

> Just one funny sample. When I tried to compile new version of  firefox on my 
> terminal server (SXCE b97) half year ago, firefox itself wanted GNU userland. 
> But some of its subcomponents (don't remember which) saw that it is Solaris 
> and tried to use Sun cc flags...

Well, it is still possible to write portable software that does not require
GNU tools for compiling. I am of course not using a recent GNU autoconf for my 
software as a recent GNU autoconf requires bash but I use "schily autoconf" 
which is a very enhanced version of the latest portable GNU autoconf-2.13. I 
am not using GNU make but my own "smake" which is older than GNU make and more
portable than GNU make.

BTW: If you fetch the complete schily source consolidation from:

ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily/

you get something that contains the smake source and a portable shell based 
bootstrap to compile smake without a local make program.

If you like to support high portability, you usually cannot rely on the local
make program but this is definitely the only problem with portability. For 
everything else, you do not force people to use other then the local userland.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle 10g on OpenSolaris (Solaris 5.11)

[Chris Pickett]

On 8/16/09, Alexander  wrote:
> > Alexander  wrote:
>  >
>  > > Just my humble opinion. Why should community
>  > support two different sets of quite similar tools.
>  > Maybe some things (e.g. ZFS ACL  support) should be
>  > integrated into GNU tools?
>  >
>  > Do you really believe that this will ever happen?
>  >
>  > The GNU tools do not even support Linux specific
>  > features, why do you believe
>  > that they will ever start supporting Solaris specific
>  > features?
>
> But in other case we have the following case:
>  1) A lot of users (and what is more significant, developers) get used to 
> work with GNU tools. So, even to compile firefox we need GNU userland.
>  2) But a lot of Solaris native utils, respectively, relies on 
> Solaris-specific behavior.
>  And as result both kind of tools  should be supported Quite strange...
>  May be there are some ways to make GNU tools at least do what Solaris tools 
> can do (to improve end user experience)... At least, why there can be some 
> objections from GNU projects commiters if patches for GNU tools enhancing 
> their functionality on Solaris are suggested to them?
>  Of course, another way is to make own Solaris tools more GNU-like (for 
> example as it is done in FreeBSD). It will make life of developers (and 
> admins trying to compile soft on Solaris) easier. But it is not always 
> possible...

If you want GNU and FreeBSD features in the Solaris userland look at
the ksh93-integration project. They are adding GNU and FreeBSD
features to the commands in /usr/bin. Just download and install the
binaries from 
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/ksh93-integration/downloads/2009-07-02/
to see how the future of Solaris looks like :)

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Re: [osol-discuss] Performance Problems - how to kernel monitor

[Jürgen Keil]

> I'm having terrible performance problems right now
> (trying to FTP a large file from a solaris server,
> and only getting 8Mbit on 10/100 LAN)
...
> Notice: in.ftpd is consuming nearly all the CPU, and
> the system is spending 98% in kernel time.

Profile the kernel to find out what code
consumes the kernel cpu time:

lockstat -kIW -D 20 sleep 20
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Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle 10g on OpenSolaris (Solaris 5.11)

[Alexander]

> Alexander  wrote:
> 
> > Just my humble opinion. Why should community
> support two different sets of quite similar tools.
> Maybe some things (e.g. ZFS ACL  support) should be
> integrated into GNU tools?
> 
> Do you really believe that this will ever happen?
> 
> The GNU tools do not even support Linux specific
> features, why do you believe 
> that they will ever start supporting Solaris specific
> features?
But in other case we have the following case:
1) A lot of users (and what is more significant, developers) get used to work 
with GNU tools. So, even to compile firefox we need GNU userland. 
2) But a lot of Solaris native utils, respectively, relies on Solaris-specific 
behavior. 
And as result both kind of tools  should be supported Quite strange... 
May be there are some ways to make GNU tools at least do what Solaris tools can 
do (to improve end user experience)... At least, why there can be some 
objections from GNU projects commiters if patches for GNU tools enhancing their 
functionality on Solaris are suggested to them?
Of course, another way is to make own Solaris tools more GNU-like (for example 
as it is done in FreeBSD). It will make life of developers (and admins trying 
to compile soft on Solaris) easier. But it is not always possible...

Just one funny sample. When I tried to compile new version of  firefox on my 
terminal server (SXCE b97) half year ago, firefox itself wanted GNU userland. 
But some of its subcomponents (don't remember which) saw that it is Solaris and 
tried to use Sun cc flags...
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Re: [osol-discuss] Blastwave repository down?

[Darren Couch]

Awesome-thanks!  I have been enjoying the new opensolaris install, and there 
are only a few things more to tie down for it to be excellent.  Running on an 
XPS M1710 with 4G ram-stable and smooth.
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