Re: [osol-discuss] PulseAudio

[Dick Davies]

On Dec 10, 2007 3:55 PM, UNIX admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I have a question... Is there any plan to integrate
> > PulseAudio as the sound server in Solaris?

> I suggest to contact the developers of PulseAudio to ask them if they
> have any plans on porting this software to Solaris.

That's not the same as integrating it.

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Re: [osol-discuss] "Indiana" review

[Dick Davies]

On Dec 3, 2007 6:36 PM, UNIX admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Yes, and it's dogma. There are plenty of situations
> > where root login is the best
> > tool for the job.
>
> On your desktop, yes. And even then, not in a GUI.

There you go again.
I'm trying to point out gently that you dont' necessarily know how
every system in the world is going to be used.

> I do worry about root's home directory, and root's shell; and on all real 
> UNIX systems, that shell is `/sbin/sh`, and the home directory is /, and all 
> software works, and doesn't break.

O_o

I'm sorry I thought we were talking about real system administration
for a moment.

I think I'm done.



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Re: [osol-discuss] "Indiana" review

[Dick Davies]

On Dec 3, 2007 1:45 PM, UNIX admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> You should never be logged in as root directly, unless you are on the 
> console, in text mode.
>
> That is sysadmin 101.

Yes, and it's dogma. There are plenty of situations where root login is the best
tool for the job.

> 2. RBAC is present only on Solaris and therefore useless in homogenous 
> environments

That seems a weak argument against it.
In homogenous environments users can just  'alias sudo=pfexec'.
RBAC is  the sysadmins job problem, not the users, and and sudo is a
blunt instrument compared to RBAC.

Funny that you don't worry too much about homogenous environments when
it comes to
roots home directory or shell :)

> A well engineered system will never have either the root user or any other 
> users logging into him interactively, and a correctly secured build will have 
> necessary mechanisms built in and configured to begin with.

I'm not sure how that applies to e.g. my laptop, or why you are
worried about sudo vs. rbac when no-one is going
to login to your machines anyway?

> That is a clearly an architectural issue, not a security issue.
>
> A desktop system will be a developer's system, and being a fascist on 
> developers is in my experience extremely counter-productive.
> Not to mention that it kills morale, which is unacceptable.

This seems to contradict your earlier statement.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Default media player? Change would be good

[Dick Davies]

On 11/6/07, Brian Cameron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you are
> the sort of user who thinks OpenOffice is better because it is open,
> then consider using ogg-vorbis, theora, FLAC, Speex, or other open
> formats for your audio and video as well.  Don't be a free and open
> software hypocrite.

There's no hypocrisy here - you are confusing two different decisions.
I can choose what I write documents in, but 99% of the media I want
to watch was authored by someone else.


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Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] I'm sorry, but I just don't get it

[Dick Davies]

On 05/11/2007, Steven Stallion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The argument that modifying the PATH is too difficult for the average user
> is nonsense. Any user who knows enough to know what runtime they prefer,
> know precisely how to change their PATH to reflect that.

Hear, hear.  Throwing this in front of a new user (rather than
something like a disk
layout customizer) seems like the answer to a question no-one asked.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Project Indiana milestone reached!

[Dick Davies]

On 01/11/2007, Glynn Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   o ZFS as the default filesystem

Is that as in 'ZFS root'?

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Re: [osol-discuss] zfs and export/home

[Dick Davies]

On 02/09/07, Robert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm having trouble understanding this:
>
> zfs create zfspool/home
> zfs create zfspool/home/u1
> zfs create zfspool/home/u2
>
> For arguments sake u1 contains 5gb worth of data and u2 7gb worth of data.
>
> Doing 'zfs list' zfspopol/home/u1 and zfspool/home/u2 shows 5gb and 7gb 
> respectively. However zfspool/home only shows a couple of kb, not my expected 
> 12gb.

These are separate filesystems, so that's what I'd expect
(it'd be exactly the same if you had /usr , /usr/src and /usr/share as
separate filesystems on any other UNIX).


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Re: [osol-discuss] Next SXCE/SXDE release?

[Dick Davies]

On 17/08/07, Gary Gendel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> According to the web page, SXCE releases should come every other week. I 
> haven't seen an announcement for over a month. Has this process stalled, or 
> has the focus changed because of the Indiana project?

>From http://opensolaris.org/os/community/on/flag-days/pages/2007070901/ ,
it seems the next SXCE release (b70) will be 'blessed' and become
SXDE. That usually means a delay as the rough edges get sanded off.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Failure to complete solaris registration wizard: "Your login information does not match a valid Sun Account"

[Dick Davies]

On 17/08/07, Darren J Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The update manager wont' be any use to you anyway since it is only
> providing data for Solaris 10 not Solaris Express releases.

Is there any reason it ships with SXCE?
It's the first thing new users see, and it's broken.

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Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

[Dick Davies]

On 31/07/07, MC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Most people use Windows because it came with their PC, not for any
> technical reason.
>
> It comes with their PCs because it is technically the best desktop OS.  Dell 
> doesn't sell Windows PCs instead of OS/2 Warp PCs because of a coin flip.  
> Windows is simply the best.  (Better than all the rest!)

At what?

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Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.

[Dick Davies]

On 30/07/07, Korey Peters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> It is true that users alone will not make Open Solaris into a great product, 
> but they are the final judge of its success.  The Open Solaris community must 
> remember who will use their software when the development is done: the user.

Is Solaris really trying to be the best desktop OS? That seems a
*really* odd direction to
push in, given its obvious superiority on the server end.

> If a large number of desktop users should be the first priority, targeting 
> the Linux developer's community is a poor strategy.  These developers are 
> already a small subset of all developers, and hundreds of Linux distros 
> compete for their limited time.  In targeting them, Solaris has chosen the 
> hardest possible target when much easier targets exist.

Developers matter because they write/port the software sysadmins need.

Most people use Windows because it came with their PC, not for any
technical reason.
I don't see any mileage in trying to out windows windows. OSX has
already done that, anyway :)

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Re: [osol-discuss] FlashPlayer 9 on SXDE on Laptop...It's Been a Long Time Coming!

[Dick Davies]

On 17/07/07, Kaiwai Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The new power management in B70 should also make it a nice platform for
> university - I like sitting in the cafe doing some study without seeing
> my battery drop like a rock.

That's interesting - is that the 'frkit/power management' packages
( from  http://opensolaris.org/os/community/laptop/ )
or something else?

For me it's powernow rather that battery management - I prefer a dead laptop
to a scorched lap :)


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Re: [osol-discuss] [nwam-discuss] 2 wireless nics confuses NWAM

[Dick Davies]

On 17/07/07, Darren J Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dick Davies wrote:

> >> Why should an end user actually care what the name of the NIC is ?
> >
> > Because one of the cards might be a) slower or b) non-WPA aware.

> but do you need to know about the different NICs or do you need NWAM to
> do the sensible thing and present a merged listed ?  If the "correct"
> thing had happened would you actually be asking this at all ?
>
> Why is it interesting for the user to know and more importantly for a
> non advanced user how does ipw0 and ath0 tell them one is the built in
> thingy and the other the add in thingy ?

I don't see a downside to listing 'WLANs per NIC' , but
I think I'm really asking for NWAM to be aware of multiple NICs
(and try to fallback to another if one is repeatedly faling).

I sort of figured we could hassle the user in the meantime, since that's
only a small tweak.

> Think more automagic :-)

I am. Black magic :)

Thanks.

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Re: [osol-discuss] [nwam-discuss] 2 wireless nics confuses NWAM

[Dick Davies]

On 16/07/07, Darren J Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dick Davies wrote:
> > 1. Ubuntu on the same machine (and WLANs) presents a list like this:
> >
> > ipw0 (Intel Centrino .)
> >   -- Granny Smith (WEP)
> >   -- BT Voyager (WPA)
> >   -- mywlan (WPA)
> > ath0 (Atheros .)
> >   -- Granny Smith (WEP)
> >   -- BT Voyager (WPA)
> >   -- mywlan (WPA)
> >
> > whereas the Solaris dialog doesn't specify which NIC it's using.
> > Would that make sense?
>
> Why should an end user actually care what the name of the NIC is ?

Because one of the cards might be a) slower or b) non-WPA aware.

> Advanced users maybe but for most people it doesn't actually matter.

True if you assume only advanced users are going to have 2 nics.
In some ways, the opposite is true - anyone currently using Solaris on
a  WPA WLAN
with a non-atheros internal card is going to be in this situation unless
they're happy to open their laptop (in my case the card is riveted in
- no, really).

'dladm scan-wifi' already shows the wlans next to the nics anyway, so
the information
is easy to get at.

> What is the exact error message you get, I can't find "duplicate object"
> anywhere in the code.

Sorry, was typing from memory - just 'add_drv'ed to replicate the
fault. It was :

[ Jul 16 21:57:01 Executing start method
("/lib/svc/method/net-nwam start") ]
/sbin/dladm: secure object initialization failed: object already exists

But looking more carefully, it seems that's a warning message -
with just one wireless driver loaded, I still get it on a 'svcadm restart nwam',
but everything works ok.

The *actual* error is that NWAM never gets as far as trying ath0.
I get errors like this in /var/log/messages

ul 16 22:29:15 hypnotoad nwamd[749]: [ID 459249 daemon.error]
connect_chosen_lan: connect to 'XXX' failed on 'ipw0': operation not
supported
Jul 16 22:29:15 hypnotoad nwamd[749]: [ID 524068 daemon.warning] Could
not connect to chosen WLAN XXX; going to auto-conf
Jul 16 22:29:40 hypnotoad nwamd[749]: [ID 459249 daemon.error]
connect_chosen_lan: connect to 'XXX' failed on 'ipw0': operation not
supported
Jul 16 22:29:40 hypnotoad nwamd[749]: [ID 524068 daemon.warning] Could
not connect to chosen WLAN XXX; going to auto-conf

even when ath0 is unplugged - for some reason it tries twice (the 2
dialog boxes,
before giving up).

It would be good if NWAM could somehow pass the 'operation not supported' error
(i.e. 'I cannot do WPA') back to the user in some form.

But that'd only be useful if they could try a different NIC, which was
really why I was asking
for some visibilty as to which one was used.

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Re: [osol-discuss] vlc player?

[Dick Davies]

On 15/07/07, Doug Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> a b wrote:
> >> Something must be wrong with your build as Mplayer rarely crashes for me.
> >>
> >
> > What ever is wrong with "my build" of Mplayer is wrong for everybody else, 
> > for I installed it from Blastwave.
> >
>
> No, you incorrectly assume that everybody gets mplayer from blastwave. I
> build mine from spec-files-extra and it works fine.

I got mplayer from blastwave on friday, and can watch wmvs ok.

x86, Nevada b68.

Had to give it a '-vo x11' argument to play nice, otherwise it works fine -
and no need to add extra codecs.
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Re: [osol-discuss] vlc player?

[Dick Davies]

On 13/07/07, Orvar Korvar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> When I try to see films on my nevada b67, the film viewers doesnt work. None 
> of the default players work. I want my vlc! :o(
>
> Any suggestions?

I'd suggest mplayer for video files and ogle for DVDs
(both from blastwave).


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Re: [osol-discuss] [osol-help] Fail to boot on Intel 915GAV motherboard?

[Dick Davies]

I've seen this a bit on my asus - which is also on SXDE.
ISTR a couple of messages during boot about i915 registers.
It's generally really good, but JDS seemed to lock up after a while

I put it down to RAM starvation (it only has 512Mb of RAM) - CDE
seems much more stable.

I noticed that there have been a couple of commits that mentioned i915 chipset,
so I'm going to get a more recent SXCE build tonight
(SXDE is b64a, latest SXCE is b67).

Will let you know if it helps.


On 09/07/07, Kun Niu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dear all,
> I wonder if anyone has ever met the problem before.
> The original Solarix Express 10 can be installed on my machine and runs well.
> But I've just got the Solaris Express Developer Edition DVD.
> The installation seems to be successful.
> But when the computer reboots and comes to the GUI interface, the computer 
> seems to be dead there and doesn't respond to any key stroke.
> Will anyone please help me?
> I'd like to give any debug message if possible.
>
> Regards.
>
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Re: [osol-discuss] Using /boot as another slice affects grub booting process?

[Dick Davies]

Ah, I must have some other problem then:

vera # lustatus
Boot Environment   Is   Active ActiveCanCopy
Name   Complete NowOn Reboot Delete Status
--  -- - -- --
c0d0s0 yes  no noyes-
b64a   yes  yesyes   no -
vera # ludelete c0d0s0
The boot environment  contains the GRUB menu.
Attempting to relocate the GRUB menu.
ERROR: No suitable candidate slice for GRUB menu on boot disk:

INFORMATION: You will need to create a new Live Upgrade boot
environment on the boot disk to find a new candidate for the GRUB
menu.
ERROR: Cannot relocate the GRUB menu in boot environment .
ERROR: Cannot delete boot environment .
Unable to delete boot environment.

'b64a' is on c1d0 - is there a way to tell ludelete to move grub there?


On 08/07/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >On 08/07/07, UNIX admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> Modern Solaris does not use nor need /boot.
> >>
> >> You should only have four slices: s0 /, s1 swap, s2 (don't touch!) and s7 
> >> (64MB for metadb).
> >
> >You need /boot to do LU on x86 (if you want to be able to free up the
> >old root slice afterwards).
>
>
> Uhm, no.
>
>
> Ludelete will just delete the slice with grub on it and move it to
> the other slice.
>
> Casper
>
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Re: [osol-discuss] Using /boot as another slice affects grub booting process?

[Dick Davies]

On 08/07/07, UNIX admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Modern Solaris does not use nor need /boot.
>
> You should only have four slices: s0 /, s1 swap, s2 (don't touch!) and s7 
> (64MB for metadb).

You need /boot to do LU on x86 (if you want to be able to free up the
old root slice afterwards).


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Re: [osol-discuss] ZFS with ISCSI on x86

[Dick Davies]

On 03/07/07, UNIX admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Either you wait until this stuff is backported to Solaris 10, which is 6 
> months at a minimum, or you download the source code and compile and package 
> the stuff yourself.

It's in update4, that's out in a month or 2.

> One thing that's unclear to me is, are you sure the command is `iscsitadm`? 
> I'm remotely logged into my laptop right now which is running Solaris 10 u3 
> and it has the `iscsiadm` command.

The 't' is for target :)

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Re: [osol-discuss] ZFS with ISCSI on x86

[Dick Davies]

On 03/07/07, Mbi Jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am trying to implement ISCSI on X4500.This box is running Solaris 10 11/06 
> s10x_u3wos_10 X86. I want to be able to create iSCSI targets on this box 
> inoder to attached to a Host(initiator).
> I downloaded iscsitgt.x86 packages from OpenSolaris and installed on the box 
> but when i run iscsitadm i get the following error :

Looks like they don't work with Solaris 10.
Wait for update 4, or use something like Solaris Express.

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] # iscsitadm
> ld.so.1: iscsitadm: fatal: libc.so.1: version `SUNW_1.23' not found (required 
> by file /lib/libiscsitgt.so.1)
> ld.so.1: iscsitadm: fatal: libc.so.1: open failed: No such file or directory
> Killed
>
> Is it possible to implement this??? If so can anybody help with a workaround.
>
> Would be grateful.
>
> Jeff
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Re: [osol-discuss] Re: /usr in none-global zone is read-only system?!

[Dick Davies]

Install it into /opt.


On 26/06/07, yoyo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

but install will
cp .libs/libphp5.so /usr/apache2/libexec/libphp5.so
Installing PHP CLI binary:/usr/local/bin/
Installing PHP CLI man page:  /usr/local/man/man1/
Installing build environment: /usr/local/lib/php/build/
Installing header files:  /usr/local/include/php/
Installing helper programs:   /usr/local/bin/
..

i try to chmod +w /usr,but /usr can't be modified.what can i do?
in global zone i install php successful.


/usr is shared from the global zone and is supposed to be read-only.
Can you install to /opt instead?

Pass --prefix=/opt to your configure script.


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Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris as NetBSD?

[Dick Davies]

On 31/05/07, Girts Zeltins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


If Sun Microsystems will go this road then Solaris can become leader operating 
systems.


Windows does ok. How many does it run on?

PPC would be good, but a lot of NetBSDs platforms are relatively
unused. I don't see the
benefit of porting Solaris to dead architectures.

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Re: [osol-discuss] BASH as root shell

[Dick Davies]

On 23/05/07, Shawn Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Let's not use hateful phrases on the lists please such as b), even if in jest.


Agreed,  I apologize for that if it's caused anyone any offense
(I use it because I've heard those exact words from solaris advocates,
and I'd like it to stop).

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Re: [osol-discuss] BASH as root shell

[Dick Davies]

On 23/05/07, Sean Sprague <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Dick,

> On 23/05/07, Sean Sprague <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Gerard,
>>
>> > How can I make BASH the root's default shell?
>>
>> This question has come up more times than possibly any other. The
>> answer is invariably (and correctly) "Don't do it!".
>
> What's the technical reason for that?
> Because all I've heard is
>
> a) it might break a script
> b) it means you are gay
>
> give a sensible reason or don't keep saying this.



Firstly, I don't like your tone.


I'm sorry if you got offended, but a technical reason isn't too much to ask for,
rather than just 'this is the correct answer' with no explanation.

We've just (hopefully) ended a week long row about the merits or otherwise
of Solaris/Linux and most of the debate has been personal preference dressed
up as received wisdom.



Also as an addendum, last time I checked, if your entry for root in /etc/passwd 
was munged and the shell had become
unexecutable, from single-user mode Solaris would run up a /sbin/sh for you to 
recover the situation from.


That's no longer true as I understand it (and was why i asked you for
a technical reason).
See

http://solaris.reys.net/english/2006/09/root_shell_in_solaris_10

All the best
Dick.

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Re: [osol-discuss] BASH as root shell

[Dick Davies]

On 23/05/07, Sean Sprague <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Gerard,

> How can I make BASH the root's default shell?

This question has come up more times than possibly any other. The answer is invariably 
(and correctly) "Don't do it!".


What's the technical reason for that?
Because all I've heard is

a) it might break a script
b) it means you are gay

give a sensible reason or don't keep saying this.

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Re: [osol-discuss] BASH as root shell

[Dick Davies]

usermod -s /usr/bin/bash root

On 23/05/07, Gerard Nualla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

How can I make BASH the root's default shell?


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Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Sun to make Solaris more Linux like

[Dick Davies]

On 19/05/07, UNIX admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


One picks Linux "as the best choice" only if one doesn't know what one is 
doing. It is as simple as that.




This kind of thing is coming across more and more as irrational hatred.
Take it elsewhere, it's not helpful.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Sun to make Solaris more Linux like

[Dick Davies]

On 16/05/07, Alan DuBoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Wed, 16 May 2007, Frank Van Der Linden wrote:

> You can't do that with zones as they stand now. There's a whole list of
> things you can't do in a non-global zone.

That is true today, but Xen might change that. We do have branded zones
today which run a Linux personality, but as you point out, non-global
zones have some limitations, but I see that as a good thing.


This strikes me as massive overkill.

Why use a zone (let alone a full VM) to avoid a user having
to set their PATH correctly?

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Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Sun to make Solaris more Linux like

[Dick Davies]

On 12/05/07, UNIX admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> http://solaris.reys.net/english/2006/09/root_shell_in_
> solaris_10

Yes Sir, thank you for the link, but I've known about this ever since it's been 
implemented.

However, what I don't know, and that's the dangerous part, is what else I could 
break if I change the root's SHELL.


I can't think why anything would (other than shell scripts with
missing shebangs).

If you find system utilities that rely on /bin/sh being roots shell, file a bug.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Sun to make Solaris more Linux like

[Dick Davies]

On 10/05/07, UNIX admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> And what's the default? Oh yeah  that shell
> that's still stuck in
> the first century?

I don't see anything wrong with `exec tcsh -l`. That's only in root's case 
anyway, and hopefully not much time should be spent working as root anyway.


http://solaris.reys.net/english/2006/09/root_shell_in_solaris_10

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Re: [osol-discuss] Build 63 Changelog

[Dick Davies]

On 04/05/07, Thomas Rampelberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Dick Davies wrote:
> http://dlc.sun.com/osol/on/downloads/b63/on-changelog-b63.html



That works! Is there a link to that somewhere or is this an insider's tip?


I just change the 2 embedded numbers every fortnight and there it is :)
I don't know of any other changelog, although this page is a decent roadmap:

http://opensolaris.org/os/community/on/flag-days/

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Re: [osol-discuss] Build 63 Changelog

[Dick Davies]

http://dlc.sun.com/osol/on/downloads/b63/on-changelog-b63.html

?


On 04/05/07, Thomas Rampelberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I saw that B63 was available for download now and was looking for a
changelog. I can't seem to find a link on opensolaris.org and googling
doesn't appear to produce any results. Where should I be looking?


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Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE Build 62 available

[Dick Davies]

Cheers Steve, that's great. Thanks.

On 20/04/07, Stephen Lau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi Dick,
Sorry about that... I'm not sure why that didn't get pushed out.
I've just put the changelog up, you should be able to view it now.



On Fri, Apr 20, 2007 at 07:29:51AM +0100, Dick Davies wrote:
> Thanks Derek - anyone know where the changelog
> is?


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Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE Build 62 available

[Dick Davies]

Thanks Derek - anyone know where the changelog
that would usually live at:

http://dlc.sun.com/osol/on/downloads/b62/on-changelog-b62.html

is?

On 20/04/07, Derek Cicero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Please find the links to SXCE Build 62 at
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Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Spam mails...

[Dick Davies]

On 15/04/07, gns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Many mailing lists these days require entering of a verification code or 
characters displayed on the page while subscribing.


I must say I've never seen one (and I'm on a *lot* of mailing lists).
Do you have any evidence that bots are registering on lists? I
personally suspect spammers do that themselves, and then load the
spambot with the correct subscriber address.


This ensures the subscription is done by a *human* and not a bot.
Can this be introduced into the mailing lists of opensolaris.org? An RFE for 
the same?


Please be careful to ensure this doesn't reqire web access to subscribe.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Solaris 10: The Complete Reference

[Dick Davies]

Definitely. I own it and it's dreadful.

Did you read any of the reviews? It's just a solaris 9
book that the guy wrote 'includes detailed information for solaris 10'
on the cover of. By all accounts the solaris 9 version was good, too.
Honestly, he should be ashamed of himself.

The dtrace and kernel internals books (the new ones from sun)
are great. the only other solaris 10 books I've seen are the 'exam
cram' book, which I bought but haven't read yet. Looks promising though.


On 08/04/07, Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Thanks for the responses guys.

Send it back? You really think so number9?


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Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 10: The Complete Reference

[Dick Davies]

Send it back. Seriously, it has *nothing* in it about Solaris 10 - no zones,
dtrace or zfs.

On 07/04/07, Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Anyone read this? I just ordered a copy from: 
http://www.amazon.com/Solaris-10-Complete-Reference/dp/0072229985/ref=sr_1_1/103-2214988-8871063?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1175966813&sr=1-1

I was wondering how compatible this would be with somelike belenix or another 
distro built on Solaris.


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Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Containers in practice – pleas

[Dick Davies]

That's exactly the model http://joyent.com/ are using
with their accelerators. Seems to be very well recieved
by their hosting customers (of which I'm one).

On 25/03/07, Adam Luzecki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> One of the primary benefits of Containers is
> delegated administration.
> Think of a company providing hosting services.
> Instead of providing each
> customer their own server, they can be provided with
> a Solaris
> container. Many customers can share resources on the
> same set of
> servers. The resource management capabilities of
> Containers allows the
> hosting provider to assign resources to a container
> based on an
> agreed-upon SLA. Perhaps premium-rate customers get
> more resources than
> standard-rate customers.

That's great example! And the idea can be shown even on Ultra 10! I could 
design a project based on midrange server, and show it in low scale on my 
workstation! I will think about something like this.
Thanks!


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Re: [osol-discuss] joining Sun

[Dick Davies]

On 22/03/07, Darren J Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Dick Davies wrote:
> On 22/03/07, Thomas De Schampheleire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> pkginfo SUNWman does show:
>> system  SUNWman On-Line Manual Pages
>>
>> doesn't this mean it is installed?
>
> That's the man command, not the man pages.

The SUNWman package contains the man pages for the ON consolidation,
other consolidations deliver their man pages in other packages.

The /usr/bin/man command is delivered in the SUNWdoc package.


Ok, ok, got it back-asswards - "you need both" is what I was trying to say :)

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Re: [osol-discuss] joining Sun

[Dick Davies]

On 22/03/07, Thomas De Schampheleire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


pkginfo SUNWman does show:
system  SUNWman On-Line Manual Pages

doesn't this mean it is installed?


That's the man command, not the man pages.


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Re: [osol-discuss] joining Sun

[Dick Davies]

On 22/03/07, Thomas De Schampheleire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


- then there are the command line programs. There might be a good
reason for this, but I feel that some of the Solaris-shipped tools are
inferior to the GNU tools. For example, I don't see a reason why a
simple recursive grep with 'grep -R' does not work on Solaris.


It doesn't on linux either (i think you mean 'grep -r'),
but yes - this drives me mad too :) You should have a /usr/sfw/bin/ggrep
that works how you want - if not, you need to add the 'SUNWggrp' package.


 Even 'man man' doesn't work here. (I'm beginning to wonder
whether this may be because the man pages are not installed... could
this be? man man should work, right?)


Either the man command or the manpages aren't installed on your box:

pkgadd -d /cdrom/Solaris_11/Product SUNWdoc  SUNWman
catman -w



- the actual kernel is not very important from a user point of view I
think. What is important is the hardware support


A few years back you'd just check hardware worked with Linux before
buying it. If you're going to build a dedicated Solaris box, that's the best
plan (although the hardware compatibility list for sun needs some TLC).

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Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Departing Comments

[Dick Davies]

On 19/03/07, Carlos Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Ian,

Thanks, I tried running device detection tool, but it only runs on certain 
versions of Linux or on Windows, so it would not run on my system.


There's a 'livecd' version at :

 http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/hcl/hcts/install_check_sx.html



I think that working better with newer hardware maybe a deterrent rather than a 
plus factor and could push more away from Solaris than it will attract.


That's an odd statement. You'd rather it *didn't* run on new hardware,
or that people should spend time supporting hardware that's about to
be EOLed?
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Re: [osol-discuss] Re: How to build a NAS box

[Dick Davies]

If you want a NAS, why do you care what GNOME does?
Webfrontend maybe, but not a GUI.

And read the manpages, they're accurate and updated often.

On 18/03/07, MC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


The problems with Solaris for me so far are driver support and ease of 
administration.

Driver support is very limited.  And when certain hardware IS support, it isn't 
always clear how to install/use it.  Console commands buried in man pages 
aren't going to cut it anymore -- I hope Unix will join us in the 21st century 
by the time we hit 2010 :)




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Re: [osol-discuss] Re: About Solaris (mistakes) and future

[Dick Davies]

I've tolerated CDE before now, but only because it
was less resource-hungry that JDS/Gnome.

There are much nicer, lightweight GUIs available IMO.
Something that could run .xinitrc off the bat would let
people run what suits them.

On 02/03/07, Girts Zeltins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hello,

I will soon sent email to OpenGroup to talk about CDE open sourcing in this 
year and I want to think what will Sun do if CDE will be fully open sourced. I 
think then CDE will revive and there will be possible faster to improove it by 
community.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Re: which open solaris for a total newbie

[Dick Davies]

Can't recommend docs.sun.com highly enough - very good quality documentation
(choose the 'solaris 10' collection - everything under there still
applies to SXCR).

And make use of the man pages too - in my experience Linux
manpages vary greatly in quality. The solaris ones are excellent.

On 19/02/07, brad kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

thank you so much for the detailed response..actually since I was using fedora 
I don't know apt I know rpm/yum (well kinda) so I wonder if I should just go to 
the developer version first..I know the basics of starting stopping services 
tcpip and some simple networking services (samba dns apache) so I guess I am 
just a partial newbie...well compared to you guys still a total noob :)


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[osol-discuss] security advisories and opensolaris / sxcr

[Dick Davies]

Hi, I recently subscribed to the security RSS feed

http://blogs.sun.com/security/feed/entries/rss

and there are a few doozies (zones are broken for instance).

There's no mention of SXCR or opensolaris vulnerabilities in the advisories
(which is completely understandable).

I just wondered if this information was available anywhere?

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Re: [osol-discuss] ETA for SX:CR B56

[Dick Davies]

It looks like Opensolaris b56 came out over the weekend:

http://dlc.sun.com/osol/on/downloads/b56/on-changelog-b56.html

Isn't it normally 2 weeks before that becomes SXCR?

Incidentally, I hope I missed something, because I see no mention of
duckhorn in that changelog


On 29/01/07, Ben Rockwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Is there an ETA for SX:CR B56?  I've got a lot of things on hold for this 
release.  I know the B55 respin threw a wrench in the works, but any updates or 
best guesses as to when we'll see 56 would be appreciated.

benr.


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Re: [osol-discuss] Setting up Ethernet hardware card for Solaris Express

[Dick Davies]

On 24/01/07, Edward Diener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I installed Solaris Express Community Release b50 on my computer but the
installation process did not setup my ethernet card for me which allows
me to connect to my lan and to the Internet via a router and a DSL
modem. How do I do this this under Solaris Express ?


Well, first you need a card that solaris can see :)

Have a look at a few URLs I found useful :

http://del.icio.us/rasputnik/solaris+hardware+networking


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Re: [osol-discuss] Re: new to solaris, some differences from linux...

[Dick Davies]

On 15/01/07, noel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

great.

so what should we do to get this cheat sheet goin? What would be the most 
important commands to put? and which config files are also significant and 
different for administering the system?


There's an 'immigrants' project at opensolaris.org that is supposed to
be helping here - I
found Ben Rockwoods blog very useful; start with

http://www.cuddletech.com/blog/pivot/entry.php?id=562


If you're coming from Linux one really good tip is  to run 'catman -w'
and use the man pages.
Linux manpages are often outdated or missing, the Solaris ones are really good.
docs.sun.com is a bit like the linux howto project, except its
maintained and accurate :)


Hmm, I was just checking out solaris cuz sun says its the most secure os. But 
my real question is why people are leaving linux for a foreign environment like 
solaris. It seems that there is somewhat less software available for solaris. 
(I don't mind paying for software if it's what I'm looking for, so there might 
be commercial apps for solaris that I haven't come across).


There's less software for everything that isn't linux, but most of the
quality software
I use has been available on Solaris too (and BSD and OSX).


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[osol-discuss] Re: Is Mozilla still available in Nevada (snv_53+)?

[Dick Davies]

On 03/01/07, UNIX admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> You can always pkg-get Mozilla and/or Seamonkey from
> blastwave.org .  No need to have these in the Solaris
> proper.

I don't know about you, but I *liked* the fact that Mozilla was a *suite* of 
e-mail, IRC, newsreader and MUA, all-in-one, conveniently.


If they weren't all really shitty apart from the browser, I'd agree.
If you actually *liked* the 'communicator' bits of Mozilla, you can
always use Thunderbird.


> Because of plug-ins, Firefox has INFINITE advantages
> over Mozilla/Seamonkey, & it takes time to realize
> that.

Like the "advantage" that now I have to type in my search terms in a special 
"Google" field, instead of being able to just type it into the URI field and press 
[ENTER] to have Google look it up?


That's what keywords are for:

http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/smart-keywords.html


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Re: [osol-discuss] SXCR Build 53 available

[Dick Davies]

Is it me, or are a lot of the ON changelog entries for b53
repeated for b54 (Tamarack and iscsi/zfs for example)?

http://dlc.sun.com/osol/on/downloads/b53/on-changelog-b53.html

http://dlc.sun.com/osol/on/downloads/b54/on-changelog-b54.html


On 09/12/06, Derek Cicero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Sorry for the long delay.

Please find the links to SXCR Build 53 at
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Re: [osol-discuss] Re: New to OpenSolaris, need help?

[Dick Davies]

On 04/12/06, Hari Sundararajan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Two people have referred to something called the community edition. Is that the same as 
the Express Edition?  Is that what ian refers to when he says "Sun's distribution, 
the community edition, is the most complete" ??



Try this:

http://whacked.net/2005/06/21/confused-so-was-i/

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Re: [website-discuss] Re: [osol-discuss] New Release of B.O.O!

[Dick Davies]

On 30/11/06, Roland Mainz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


IMO email would be much better - it allows an easy access, more or less
real-time notification and it would not "tax" the bug database by
zillions of RSS clients which are polling the RSS feed every minute for
updates (guess why bugzilla has no RSS feature enabled by default...
guess it... =:-) ).


The RSS feed doesn't have to be published on the bugs database box.
I'm sure Sun have a web server or two :)

And if you want a good RSS reader, use bloglines.com - you've got a browser
open anyway, it's just another page.

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[osol-discuss] Re: [zfs-discuss] Thoughts on patching + zfs root

[Dick Davies]

sorry, CCed to wrong list (should have been zfs-discuss).

On 15/11/06, Dick Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On 14/11/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Actually, we have considered this.  On both SPARC and x86, there will be
> >a way to specify the root file system (i.e., the bootable dataset) to be
> >booted,


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[osol-discuss] Re: [zfs-discuss] Thoughts on patching + zfs root

[Dick Davies]

On 14/11/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


>Actually, we have considered this.  On both SPARC and x86, there will be
>a way to specify the root file system (i.e., the bootable dataset) to be
>booted,
>at either the GRUB prompt (for x86) or the OBP prompt (for SPARC).
>If no root file system is specified, the current default 'bootfs' specified
>in the root pool's metadata will be booted.  But it will be possible to
>override the default, which will provide that "fallback" boot capability.


I was thinking of some automated mechanism such as:

- BIOS which, when reset during POST, will switch to safe
  defaults and enter setup
- Windows which, when reset during boot, will offer safe mode
  at the next boot.

I was thinking of something that on activation of a new boot environment
would automatically fallback on catastrophic failure.


Multiple grub entries would mitigate most risks (you can already define
multiple boot archives pointing at different zfs root filesystems, it's just
not automated).

I suppose it depends how 'catastrophic' the failture is, but if it's
very low level,
booting another root probabyl won't help, and if it's too high level, how will
you detect it (i.e. you've booted the kernel, but it is buggy).


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Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Rumors about GPLd Java

[Dick Davies]

On 14/11/06, James Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


What other "news" stories can we expect from slashdot?


It's a comment (from an idiot) on a story, not a story.


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Re: [osol-discuss] Rumors about GPLd Java

[Dick Davies]

On 13/11/06, Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

If Sun does this, it is a good step, but it would
stigmatise the CDDL as a license that is not really loved even
inside Sun.

Anybody knows more?


This was quite a good read (from a 'why not BSD' perspective):

http://www.infoq.com/news/2006/11/open-source-java

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[osol-discuss] can't BFU SXCR b49 - some error about BIND?

[Dick Davies]

I wanted to BFU up to b50. Thought it might be worth
BFUing SXCR b49 -> opensolaris b49, then bumping that
to opensolaris b50 (is that the right procedure)?

Anyway, I installed SUNWonbld and tried to BFU, but I get:

 Copying /opt/onbld/bin/bfu to /tmp/bfu.888
 Executing /tmp/bfu.888 /export/home/sisred/bfu/b49/archives-b49/i386

 Loading /export/home/sisred/bfu/b49/archives-b49/i386 on /
 BIND 8 has been removed from ON; BIND 9 is available from SFW.
 Run /ws/onnv-gate/public/bin/migrate_bind9 to migrate to BIND 9.
 bfu aborting


That directory doesn't exist, and I can't seem to find any references
to that error. Can someone help me out, or at least point me at some
up to date documenation? Thanks a lot.



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Re: [osol-discuss] Re: SXCR Build 50 available

[Dick Davies]

On 21/10/06, Iwan Rahabok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

How do I know what's new in this build? I searched/browsed around, but unable 
to find any info on things added/updated/fixed/removed on this build.


http://dlc.sun.com/osol/on/downloads/b50/on-changelog-b50.html


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Re: [osol-discuss] zfs file-server boot redundancy

[Dick Davies]

On 27/09/06, Boyd Adamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On 27/09/2006, at 6:57 PM, Dick Davies wrote:
> On 27/09/06, Boyd Adamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On 27/09/2006, at 4:49 AM, Ryan Ross wrote:
>
>> > The one problem I have come across is the the UFS system partition.
>> > This is not backed up, therefore if the harddrive it is on fails, I
>> > have no way to get to my zpool! Even if I use one of those zfs-root
>> > hacks, there will still need to be a UFS portion, correct? And I
>> > can't back up the UFS portion to the ZFS portions, because I won't
>> > be able to access the ZFS in the event of a hd failure?
>> >
>> > Is there a way for me to make a failsafe for this eventuality?
>>
>> In Solaris/Solaris Express you can mirror the UFS filesystem using
>> Solaris Volume Manager.
>
> Would that mean you could boot off the mirrored disk, or would another
> step be required?

Well, it's more than one sentence. You may like to read some
documentation:

http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/816-4520

In particular:
http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/816-4520/6manpiejn?a=view
or
http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/816-4520/6manpiejq?a=view#frkde


Thanks - I've actually got a zfs root mirror with a small /grub on the
first disk[0].
There's a /grub2 on the second disk I want to keep in step, so SVM sounds
ideal (I can always run install-grub on that disk too so I can boot
off it if the first
one goes south).

Need to remember I'm now using an OS with decent docs :)

Dick.


[0] Using the howto at :
   http://solaristhings.blogspot.com/2006/06/zfs-root-on-solaris-part-2.html

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Re: [osol-discuss] zfs file-server boot redundancy

[Dick Davies]

On 27/09/06, Boyd Adamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On 27/09/2006, at 4:49 AM, Ryan Ross wrote:



> The one problem I have come across is the the UFS system partition.
> This is not backed up, therefore if the harddrive it is on fails, I
> have no way to get to my zpool! Even if I use one of those zfs-root
> hacks, there will still need to be a UFS portion, correct? And I
> can't back up the UFS portion to the ZFS portions, because I won't
> be able to access the ZFS in the event of a hd failure?
>
> Is there a way for me to make a failsafe for this eventuality?

In Solaris/Solaris Express you can mirror the UFS filesystem using
Solaris Volume Manager.


Would that mean you could boot off the mirrored disk, or would another
step be required?

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Re: [osol-discuss] Asterisk success

[Dick Davies]

On 21/09/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


These VIA boards work fine with PXE boot (for suitably modified
miniroot) and they also boot fine from flash.


(We've installed Solaris on a flash card device on one of them)


Don't suppose you know if their SATA controllers are supported?


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Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Asterisk success

[Dick Davies]

mini-itx / nano-itx

http://mini-itx.com/store/

Nice kit (if a little pricy).

On 22/09/06, UNIX admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> These VIA boards work fine with PXE boot (for
> suitably modified
> miniroot) and they also boot fine from flash.
>
>
> (We've installed Solaris on a flash card device on
> one of them)

Which "VIA boards"? Who is the manufacturer of the appliance, and what is the 
appliance model name?


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Re: [osol-discuss] SXCR Build 47 available for download

[Dick Davies]

Thanks Derek

wondered what the schedule was for SXCR (and opensolaris) releases?
Is there a fixed timetable anywhere?

On 12/09/06, Derek Cicero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

SXCR Build 46 is now available for download. Please find the links at
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/downloads/on/.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Commets on build 41

[Dick Davies]

On 20/06/06, Darren J Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Dick Davies wrote:



> erk!
>
> zfs list -t filesystem -o mountpoint|egrep -v '^(legacy|MOUNTPOINT)$'



You don't need to use egrep to get rid of the MOUNTPOINT you use the -H
flag to zfs list and it won't print the header.

Why would you want to not list legacy mounts though ?


Are they useful in an exclude list? Must admit, I wasn't really paying
attention...

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Re: [osol-discuss] Commets on build 41

[Dick Davies]

On 20/06/06, Darren J Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Alan DuBoff wrote:
> On Friday 16 June 2006 11:09 pm, Ian Collins wrote:
>> I guess I should follow the install list to see where we are with live
>> upgrade and ZFS and Zones.
>
> Ian,
>
> I see quite a few folks provided you the info that this is a bug.
>
> Nobody mentioned the workaround.
>
> before you lucreate, issue this:
>
> # mount -p | fgrep " zfs " | cut -f3 -d' ' > /tmp/excludeList

eek.

$ zfs list -t filesystem -o mountpoint > /tmp/excludelist


erk!

zfs list -t filesystem -o mountpoint|egrep -v '^(legacy|MOUNTPOINT)$'

:)

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Re: [osol-discuss] SVOSUG - Postgres & Solaris/OpenSolaris - Thurs. June 22nd 7:30pm SCA03

[Dick Davies]

On 19/06/06, Josh Berkus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Alan, Dick,

> Josh, can you give a status on SMF manifests and/or if they're not in
> now, when they'll be going in?

We're still working out some technical issues with the SMF manifests.  It's
possible that you'll need to download them as an update from the sun
website -- hopefully by next week.


Excellent news - thanks Josh!

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Re: [osol-discuss] Re: revisiting software issues

[Dick Davies]

On 17/06/06, Peter Tribble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Sat, 2006-06-17 at 03:16, David J. Orman wrote:
> For goodness sake, I've got two FreeBSD boxes doing all my web serving
> because I didn't want to go through the hassle of hand compiling
> apache/php/modules/mysql/postgresql/etc (not to mention it was a mess
> to even try,

You're kidding right? Or perhaps not.

Apart from the fact that compiling up a stack like that is trivial
anyway, I absolutely would make sure I would manage critical
components like that myself. Especially on systems that try to
manage software for you - apart from the fact that it's unlikely
to be configured the way you want or need, the risk of it randomly
changing things outside my control is way too high.


Have you used FreeBSDs ports tree ? Gives you the flexibility of source
compiles with the ease of a (decent - heh, no offense) package manager.

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[osol-discuss] SVOSUG - Postgres & Solaris/OpenSolaris - Thurs. June 22nd 7:30pm SCA03

[Dick Davies]

On 17/06/06, Alan DuBoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Postgres has been added into Solaris/OpenSolaris, which some folks are not
aware of yet. It is now included in both Solaris and OpenSolaris. You can
download the latest Solaris Express and get Postgres with the install.


Bit off-topic, but is there any reason Nevada doesn't ship with SMF gubbins
for postgres? I've found old threads mentioning various strategies, but nothing
seemed to have materialized yet.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [osol-announce] ON Mercurial changeset bundles

[Dick Davies]

On 13/06/06, Felix Schulte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On 5/31/06, Stephen Lau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Starting with yesterday's nightly delivery, we will be delivery
> Mercurial (Hg) changeset bundles [1] in addition to the raw source
> tarball.  You should be able to unpack these bundles and have a
> Mercurial repository of ON dating back to OpenSolaris Launch (2006/06/14).
Could you please provide change sets for Subversion, too?


I think the plan is to start using hg for the 'open' code repository,
hence the mercurial bundles. Don't expect there to be an svn repo
(or darcs, or monotone, or arch...).


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Re: [osol-discuss] [OT?] SXCR b40 on x4100

[Dick Davies]

On 09/06/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


>Sorry if there's a better place to ask, but is
>anyone using Nevada b40 on an x4100?
>
>I'm seeing very long boot times (6+ minutes) which seem to be down
>to slow SCSI bus detection, and I can't see the console anymore if I ssh
>to the ILOM (although the KVM java app works fine).


This is a BIOS issue which can be worked around using exclude: drv/scsa2usb


Worked a treat.
It now takes 1min30sec to get to grub, I have a login: prompt
30 seconds later - and 10 seconds of that is grub timing out :)

Notice there are a few opteron/sca bugfixes in b41, so I might put that on
before I get anything else installed.

Thanks a lot!
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[osol-discuss] [OT?] SXCR b40 on x4100

[Dick Davies]

Sorry if there's a better place to ask, but is
anyone using Nevada b40 on an x4100?

I'm seeing very long boot times (6+ minutes) which seem to be down
to slow SCSI bus detection, and I can't see the console anymore if I ssh
to the ILOM (although the KVM java app works fine).

Console was fine with sol10 1/06, and I don't recall it taking this long
to boot either.

Can anyone confirm these symptoms, or at least point me to someone
who might? Thanks!

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Fwd: [osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal - "Simplified Solaris Device Naming" (a.k.a Devname)

[Dick Davies]

On 02/06/06, James Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

UNIX admin writes:
> One of the rare things I like is how Linux solved this: regardless
> of the networking HW, all interfaces are named "eth[0-N]", for
> example eth0, eth1, ... , ethN.

Linux isn't the only one to do this.  AIX, BSD, and other variants do
it as well.


 BSD doesn't. At least the 3 free ones name their interfaces after the hardware
 (ne0, ipw0, wi0, etc).

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Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: where to start?

[Dick Davies]

On 21/05/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


It compresses all files in a filesystem.  This can be turned off by
mountpoint.



Even if it was doable on a per file basis, the question is whether this
would be a useful feature to expose to the users.


Exactly - and to my mind that's not something a 'user' gui should be
exposing, as I wouldn't expect my users to be making those decisions.

(Yes, they could be, but that in turn needs an RBAC/prviliges aware UI.
That's much more useful across the board than filesystem-specific tweaks
IMO).

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Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: where to start?

[Dick Davies]

On 20/05/06, Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



for example, if ZFS can 'compress' a
file, then why not make it an option in the 'about this file' dialogue?


( I think zfs compresses filesystems, not files. So this
would be the equivalent of GNOME letting you set mount options
for a partition in 'about this file'. Assuming I'm wrong:)

This feature isn't available for e.g. ACLs on Linux, which is where the GNOME
project is coming from. I thought they wanted a common environment.

If you're talking about JDS, then I can see where making fuller use of
ACLs would
help. But that's not a ZFS thing.

As I said, if you want a zfs admin gui, then by all means go ahead. But the
priority is obviously a command line first (a lot of us don't run GUIs).

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Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: where to start?

[Dick Davies]

On 20/05/06, Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Saturday 20 May 2006 17:39, Shawn Walker wrote:
> What do you mean by, "The question is, will GNOME integrate itself into
> ZFS..."?

The same way that ACL capabilities need to be integrated in with GNOME


Not really. GNOME needs to be aware of ACLs to take advantage of those
features. I don't see what business it is of GNOME what filesystem
it's running on.

If you mean you'd like a ZFS GUI admin tool, then by all means write one
(in whatever 'non-crappy' language you like), but that's not what I'd call
'integration'.




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Re: [osol-discuss] Distributed File System for Solaris

[Dick Davies]

On 09/05/06, Paul Jakma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Mon, 8 May 2006, Andrew Watkins wrote:



> My manager asked me if I could a mirror copy of our /var/mail on
> another system, just in case the system went down.



There's a distributed filesystem especially tailored for /var/mail,
its called IMAP.


That doesn't mirror stuff, Paul.

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Re: Main OS/Net repository - based on "Subversion" or "Mercurial" ? / was: Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [tools-discuss] Distributed source codemanagement selection, draft

[Dick Davies]

On 02/05/06, Holger Berger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On 5/2/06, Dick Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 02/05/06, Darren J Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Also I'm sure I heard somewhere else that there was a pretty darn large
> > other open source project also moving to Mercurial, can't remember which
> > one.
>
> Xen.

Let me guess: Someone from Sun proposed the switch, right?


Don't think so, no.

Have you tried it? It's nice. Knocks spots off the trainwreck that is
svk, in any case.

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Re: Main OS/Net repository - based on "Subversion" or "Mercurial" ? / was: Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [tools-discuss] Distributed source codemanagement selection, draft

[Dick Davies]

On 02/05/06, Darren J Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Also I'm sure I heard somewhere else that there was a pretty darn large
other open source project also moving to Mercurial, can't remember which
one.


Xen.
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Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris architecture question

[Dick Davies]

it's my hosting provider too :)

Have a look at the Textdrive blog. Jason has been raving about ZFS since
it came out, but I think it was the TCP improvements that made his mind up.

   http://weblog.textdrive.com/

(I hadn't heard an official announcement but it's good news as far as I'm
concerned, and I'm a big freebsd fan).


On 24/04/06, Muppalla Sridhar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi  Chad,
>
>  Good to hear your hosting company is migrating to Solaris.
>  Can you please let me know the reason for selecting Solaris ?


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Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Solaris on Intel Macs??

[Dick Davies]

On 08/04/06, Dick Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Is VMware available for Macs?

Answering my own question:

  http://arstechnica.com/journals/apple.ars/2006/4/8/3520

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Re: [osol-discuss] RFE: coolness factor

[Dick Davies]

On 31/03/06, Thomas Maier-Komor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> And what makes an OS fancy? When and how do you "see" an OS? During booting!

Personally I don't do that too often.

The first thing users have to actually deal with is the *installer*.
If you want to overhaul the UI, concentrate on that, not the splash screen...


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