Re: [osol-discuss] [xwin-discuss] Sun UltraSparc: XVR-500, Expert 3D, legacy graphic cards
Although I respond to Alan appraently it didn't get posted here. I am comparing a cluster of Sun Blade 2000's with a cluster of Ultra-24's Even though the clock speed of the Ultra-24 is nearly 3 times that of the Blade 2000 the run times for WRF-DA are nearly the same (< 5% difference). Since I run WRF-DA a minimum of 4 times a day I have a lot of sample times to compare. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [xwin-discuss] Sun UltraSparc: XVR-500, Expert 3D, legacy graphic cards
Actually I think there are quite a few of us sparc users who would rather not give up performance and reliability for the really lackluster performance and problems associated with Solaris-X86 and intel in general -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Blastwave.org
Actually a request for a single utility got you a bunch of c**p that wasn't necessary spread into places that made it difficult to remove once you found out the utility you thought you wanted dropped a core. Using mtx as an example; mtx doesn't have a lot of dependencies and can be built with a simple "configure --prefix=/opt/local; make; make install" and it will work. Yet the same cann't be said for the blastwave version. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Blastwave.org
There were enough problems with how the stuff from blastwave/csw was packaged to make it distasteful to use, this simply puts the last nail in the coffin. For the most part I build everything from the source, for those that I don't really want to take the time to build I'll go to www.sunfreeware.com This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] New features I would like to see
sunfreeware: YES!! blastwave: HELL NO!! >From blastwave a simple package install turns into a download fest. From >sunfreeware you download the package you want, install it and it works. From >blastwave the package you want requires that you download just about >everything that blastwave has This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] will opensolaris ever be released under the GPL?
Please don't feed the trolls This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] please stop deleting this thread
Why is releasing Solaris under GPL a good thing? I see only bad happening. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Which software benefits from Quad Core processors?
Well let's start with WRF MM5 GrADS hysplit4 SCIPUF CALPUF SLU-DRAS SLU-STAPUF The above come built default with multiprocessor support. I don't think any of them even suggest that a single core is a useful option. I just finished a debug run of SLU-STAPUF to test new options for GIS compatability. Debug run took 4 hours. Recompiled with -fast -parallel and had a run in 10 minutes with 8 processors on a 4450 I'm not sure the default Pro-Engineer install provides a multi-processor support, but I didn't work with a version that did have multiprocessor support. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] OpenSolaris Developer Preview 2 Available
And Indiana is pushing me away from Solaris. If I wanted the poorly thought out and unstable crap that comes the linux mindset I would just go with linux. I am looking for something that is well thought out and stable This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Any reason to keep my Ultra 10?
I just bought a Sun Ultra-24. It is a Quad-core 2.4ghz box with 4gb of memory 250gb of disk and a garbage nvidia card for $1300. Unfortunately you cann't buy the better performing Ultrasparc's at this proce point This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Any reason to keep my Ultra 10?
I guess you didn't understand me. The price you suggested was 100% more than retail. I paid list price for 2 Ultra-10's and I paid less than what you suggested for one machine. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Any reason to keep my Ultra 10?
So you your university was paying a 100% premium for hardware. I bought two full tricked out U10 directly from the Sun website when they first came out for less than that This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Any reason to keep my Ultra 10?
Integer performance is the only place where the opteron is better. In this case I mean compiles. Floating point performance on a dual 1ghz U3 is better than the 2.2ghz dual opteron. In this case MM5 run times are comparable (within 10 seconds for a 72 hour run time) WRF run times were actually faster on the U3 rather than nearly equal. Yes I know the SPEC CPU says the opteron does much better than the U3, but that is only for the synthetic dataset used as installation verification This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Any reason to keep my Ultra 10?
Based on the dual-core Opteron win 8gb of memory, dual SATA with an Nvidia graphics card, you MAY find the CPU performance better, BUT the disk and video will be awful. I've been disappointed with everything but the integer performance on my x86 box This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79
To make sure you understand. I started with a PDP-11/45, an rm-03, a tu-66 and Unix V7. My current home computer is a Sun Ultra-24 which has SUSE-10, Ubuntu Hardy-Heron and Solaris-10 installed. I don't care for Ubuntu's "we know more than you do" installation and packaging system.I don't care if the installation process looks pretty or is "easy", I should only install just once. The packaging system shouldn't force me to do a bare metal install because patching one package results in every other package breaking. I don't care for the community flame wars over "eye-candy". I do not care if this weeks newest webcam works or if I can play music from iTunes. What I do care about is if I can find away to shave another 10 minutes off WRF and MM5 model run times with 4 cores and 8gb of memory. Can I get HYSPLIT_4 to generate explosion plumes while WRF is running at the same time. Can I volume render HYSPLIT_4 output on a laptop. While Linux is more stable Windows, Linux has been and is moving in the direction of "eye-candy" and reduced stability. This based on real-world experience. I cann't afford more file-system failures or kernel crashes while WRF/HYSPLIT/DRAS is running. I will abandon Solaris and move to OpenBSD if Solaris moves to the Linux model. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79
>From the Project Indiana description on sun's web site Planned as an open source binary distribution of OpenSolaris, Project Indiana is expected to create a user base and grow mindshare for OpenSolaris by combining [b]what people like about Linux--the distribution model, community, and packaging technology--[/b]with the unique technological features of the Solaris OS. Unfortunately these "features" are what's wrong with Linux. I [b]really[/b] don't want a Ubuntu like packaging/installation system. I don't want a "community" like linux. Try installing a package like netperf and watch what happens. I found it easier just to wipe the disk and install yet another "distro". Or maybe the Ubuntu install system, which doesn't allow for root access without jumping through hoops some of which aren't possible unless you are root This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79
I thought it was a mistake to bring any sort of linux flavoring into Solaris and I won't deal with anything that has to do with Indiana or any other attempt to make Solaris look/act like linux. I use Solaris because it is Unix, is stable and meets some minimum standards for useability. Linux is a train wreck that hasn't come to a complete stop yet. Compared to windows, linux is a paragon of stability, compared to Solaris it makes me think of windows This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Solaris on an Ultra 10
I respectfully disagree (IRD). I am building a cluster to support high-performance computing, specifically meteorological models. The current version of the code runs on UltraSparc-III non-copper based system. The Sun sales rep loaned us an x4200 and I borrowed times on a SunFire V490 both configured with 4 cores and 4gb or memory. The wall-clock run time for the x4200 was 15 hours and the v490 was 9 hours. Granted the x4200 was cheaper, but you also get cheap hardware. The x4200 has too many sharp edges and reminds me of a beige box where the disk drives are held in place with foam blocks. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
