Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle forces Opera.com out of Solaris (was: Opera drops browser support for Solaris)
On 04/30/10 05:35 AM, Dave Johnson wrote: 502018 Euro for WHAT? How crazy is Oracle? They provided one of the best browsers on the planet for Solaris and Oracle did what? Ask for money? IMO the manager responsible at Oracle should be fired. No-one seems to question this number... Let's assume Opera would have to pay premier support for HW SW. The 502018 Euros support costs would then correspond to 12% of the net purchase price of their existing Sun hardware. I doubt that they use M9000 systems for development :-) Cheers Mika ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] b132 bug list?
On 02/ 5/10 11:00 PM, Brandon High wrote: Is there a list of bugs in b132? I'd like to know if the sharesmb name= bug has been fixed before upgrading. -B It should be fixed. I use this: gem http://dlc.sun.com/osol/on/downloads/b132/on-changelog-b132.html Adjust the b??? in the URL if a new release comes out. Cheers Mika ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris: insecure or unstable ?
Che Kristo wrote: Totally agree with this...forking out 324 USD a year for each of my systems (laptop + workstation) per year is just too much. A basic support option just for security fixes etc at a reasonable price would fill that hole well. Call me cynical but Sun will probably ignore this and keep on ignoring the fact that not everyone is and enterprise grade user. Maybe we just have to push them :-) Here's a poll I've set up: http://www.doodle.com/3ev8fvdxn7yghr84 I'm targeting private, non-corporate users with this poll, who just want security patches/bug fixes. Personally, I'm fine paying a small fee. But hey, USD 324 is too much, I have a family to feed :-) Maybe Sun starts to smell the money, if we get lots of participants in this poll who want to spend some cash... ;-) Cheers Mika ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] gnome-terminal core dumps on build 125
Hi After starting up gnome-terminal under build 125 it core dumps: core 'core' of 1595:gnome-terminal - lwp# 1 / thread# 1 fd85ce63 _vte_terminal_ring_append (81c50f8, 0, 50, fd87f706) + 1f fd87f81d vte_sequence_handler_cd (81c4ff0, 0, 80475c8, fd882112) + 125 fd882178 vte_sequence_handler_erase_in_display (81c4ff0, 8163fa0, f, fd88376a) + 74 fd883895 _vte_terminal_handle_sequence (81c4ff0, 81c23d8, 50b, 8163fa0) + 139 fd862d99 vte_terminal_process_incoming (81c4ff0, 0) + 405 fd87481c time_process_incoming (81c4ff0, 1, 81c4ff0, fd8748ae) + 2c fd874a4c process_timeout (0, fedcc460, 8047768, fed26c71) + 1ac fed26c87 g_timeout_dispatch (8253db8, fd8748a0, 0, 80477e0) + 23 fed24eee g_main_context_dispatch (80d1d30, 0, 824d790, b) + 262 fed2559f g_main_context_iterate (80d1d30, 1, 1, 80a6858) + 483 fed25bc9 g_main_loop_run (8249df0, 8249df0, 80a9800, fe37e73a) + 1dd fe37e7e3 gtk_main (feffb804, 0, 80aa04c, feffb804, 80479c0, fefdcf48) + b7 0806b594 main (1, 8047a14, 8047a1c, 806779f) + 944 080677fd _start (1, 8047b24, 0, 8047b33, 8047b7f, 8047bbf) + 7d - lwp# 2 / thread# 2 feef35c5 __read (15, f5cbef50, 14, fed270a6) + 15 fed270c1 child_watch_helper_thread (0, 80b3720, 200, fed4d1de) + 29 fed4d303 g_thread_create_proxy (80b3720, fef81000, f5cbefe8, f45e) + 133 f4b3 _thrp_setup (fdcb0a00) + 9b f740 _lwp_start (fdcb0a00, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0) Any ideas? Cheers Mika ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] gnome-terminal core dumps on build 125
Harry Lu wrote: It is http://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=12054 and has a workaround there. Yes, workaround did work. Thanks! Cheers Mika ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris: insecure or unstable ?
Alexander wrote: In BSD it's easier (at least in FreeBSD). Base system is updated quite regularly (e.g. after 7.1-RELEASE we had 7.1-RELEASE-p1, 7.1-RELEASE-p2 and so on...). And ports are updated separately and quite often... What is important, in FreeBSD we have at least two branches (current, stable and legacy). There are much more freedom: I may update to latest patch level, update to next release or to checkout current and get all cool features and new bugs :) And here I don't see RELEASE branch (patchsets and upstream), only stale releases or permanent CURRENT. IMHO, what is needed is a subscription below the Basic Support. Just the package updates, as we can get support etc. here from the community. I would assume for approx. 20$/year, a lot of enthusiasts would pay for it (I certainly would), while $324 is just too much. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Poll for CHOSUG Zurich B2B Event @ Restaurant Les Arcades
Here's the poll for the next CHOSUG Zurich Beer2Beer Event. Again @ Restaurant Les Arcades at Zurich Mainstation. http://www.doodle.com/ais7tt4r7pwnbfkt There is no agenda yet, but I'm open for proposals. Just a friendly reminder for you to take part in the poll. For your motivation: I've got OpenSolaris T-Shirts and Laptop-Stickers for you to pick up! ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Poll for CHOSUG Zurich B2B Event @ Restaurant Les Arcades
Hi all Here's the poll for the next CHOSUG Zurich Beer2Beer Event. Again @ Restaurant Les Arcades at Zurich Mainstation. http://www.doodle.com/ais7tt4r7pwnbfkt There is no agenda yet, but I'm open for proposals. Cheers Mika ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] why gnu chmod in os2008.11?
Joerg Schilling wrote: -H -L -P are Options defined by POSIX.2-1001 In general, it makes sense to act similar to the POSIX standardization process. Options from other implementations are first checked and discussed for their significance and importance. Under these constraints, a GNU find option -mmin has no chance as there is a much better way to specify times in a sub-day maner as found in e.g. sfind and BSD find. +1 In fact, if you check the first page of www.kernel.org it clearly states following: Linux is a clone of the operating system Unix, written from scratch by Linus Torvalds [...] . It aims towards POSIX and Single UNIX Specification http://www.unix-systems.org/ compliance. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] why gnu chmod in os2008.11?
Octave Orgeron wrote: As things stand, continuing to go after the Linux user base is like trying to convert the religion of people.. pointless and a waste of effort. Apple understands that the real attraction for everyday users is differentiation and quality. OpenSolaris has come a long way and it's good that we are trying to accomodate user expectations. However, to fall into the trap of we have to be like Linux to survive is a dangerous and almost end game way of looking at the future. Where is the leadership? I think we all want the best platform to be OpenSolaris. We should not forget that Apple welcomes users with a BSD userland. Many developers also use Mac OS X as their preferred platform. And almost everybody seems quite happy with it... Instead of offering switchers by default a GNU userland, we should point them immediately to a Rosetta Stone -like page where we explain _why_ and _how_ things are different on (Open)Solaris. If people are getting used to GNU tools and rely on them, it is much harder to teach them the (Open)Solaris way later. Not to forget, porting apps/scripts to Solaris from a GNU based OpenSolaris will be much more difficult for us administrators. Solaris 10 with many non-GNU installations, will still be around for a long time. I always try to teach people why they should e.g. use prstat instead of top. Most of them have switched to prstat after explaining the advantages of native Solaris commands. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Sun Secure Global Desktop Installation with OpenSolaris
Hi At least the ttc client works, you just need to copy some motif libraries over form Solaris 10. For the server component, haven't tried myself yet. Might work if you copy the libraries over. As motif is not opensourced it's therefore not included in OpenSolaris 05.2008. Cheers Mika This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] configuration management choice - puppet Vs CFengine ?
research, I am trying to choose between puppet and cfengine. But, I am so confused which one to go with. Don't forget bcfg2. I'm also evaluating at the moment... A config engine would also be nice to have integrated into xVM Ops Center (hint, hint! ;-). This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Porting Virtualbox to Opensolaris X86
Innobox announced today, that their virtualisation solution will be released under GPL. http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/News There is no support for OpenSolaris X86 yet, but I guess porting the code from linux to opensolaris should not be too difficult. I guess I'm not the only one, who wants to finally run windows in a VM under OpenSolaris? Who volunteers in starting a porting project? ;-) This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Oracle 11g Performace
Here's an interesting read about forthcoming Oracle 11g file system performance. Sadly, there is now information about how this works. It will be interesting to compare it with ZFS Performance, as soon as ZFS is tuned for Databases. Speed and performance will be the hallmark of the 11g, said Chuck Rozwat, executive vice president for server technologies. The new database will run fast enough so that for the first time it will beat specialized filed systems for transferring large blocks of data. Rozwat displayed test results that showed that the 11g beta is capable of transferring 1GB in just under 9 seconds compared to 12 seconds for a file system. This level of performance is important to customers who are demanding instant access to data, Rozwat said. If systems can't perform fast enough and deliver information in real time, we are in real trouble, Rozwat said. http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2036136,00.asp This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] config problem: solaris 10 as ldap client
I have problems connecting an open solaris 10 box to a novell linux ldap server (or better say: I am a newbie on this stuff and am confused about the right configuration). Hi I've written a blog entry for Solaris 10 and Novell NDS. Maybe it helps you... http://mysecondhead.blogspot.com/2006/06/solaris-10-and-novell-nds.html Mika # mv Disclaimer.txt /dev/null - This message is intended for the addressee only and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended receiver, any disclosure, copying to any person or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on this e-mail, is prohibited and may be un- lawful. You must therefore delete this e-mail. Internet communications may not be secure or error-free and may contain viruses. They may be subject to possible data corruption, accidental or on purpose. This e-mail is not and should not be construed as an offer or the solicitation of an offer to purchase or subscribe or sell or redeem any investments. - ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Roadmap Solaris
In a Linux analog, would you ask about the roadmap of RHES on the Linux Kernel Mailing List? Not really, but maybe I would ask on the Fedora Mailing List. Funny, If this is the OpenSolaris Community, why is it, that two of my official Solaris Support Cases (the commercial one!) appeared here on the OpenSolaris Mailinglist? What comes to my roadmap question. Maybe it is not the appropriate place to ask, but I guess at least 90% of the work done here by 90% Sun employees, will end up in Solaris anyway. IMHO, this is a much nicer place to ask, than waking up my rep. Mika # mv Disclaimer.txt /dev/null - This message is intended for the addressee only and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended receiver, any disclosure, copying to any person or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on this e-mail, is prohibited and may be un- lawful. You must therefore delete this e-mail. Internet communications may not be secure or error-free and may contain viruses. They may be subject to possible data corruption, accidental or on purpose. This e-mail is not and should not be construed as an offer or the solicitation of an offer to purchase or subscribe or sell or redeem any investments. - ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Re: Roadmap Solaris
Well the next update to Solaris 10 has apparently been labelled 11/06 so that would indicate November. That release will include Trusted Extensions. Thanks. But I was looking more for a roadmap ahead of that... I have once seen a (old) roadmap in a a presentation from Sun. Mika # mv Disclaimer.txt /dev/null - This message is intended for the addressee only and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended receiver, any disclosure, copying to any person or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on this e-mail, is prohibited and may be un- lawful. You must therefore delete this e-mail. Internet communications may not be secure or error-free and may contain viruses. They may be subject to possible data corruption, accidental or on purpose. This e-mail is not and should not be construed as an offer or the solicitation of an offer to purchase or subscribe or sell or redeem any investments. - ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Re: Oracle on ZFS
1. So from an oracle perspective ZFS makes updates/deletes fast but full table scans are slow - this is bad :( I'm by no means a database expert. But haven't the full table scans improved in the last years? Maybe in this particular case there is a performance hit, where read-ahead might perform well enough. But then again, the update/delete of random data was probably faster... There was an interesting thread a while ago: http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?messageID=14997 # mv Disclaimer.txt /dev/null - This message is intended for the addressee only and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended receiver, any disclosure, copying to any person or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on this e-mail, is prohibited and may be un- lawful. You must therefore delete this e-mail. Internet communications may not be secure or error-free and may contain viruses. They may be subject to possible data corruption, accidental or on purpose. This e-mail is not and should not be construed as an offer or the solicitation of an offer to purchase or subscribe or sell or redeem any investments. - ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Re: Oracle on ZFS
While ZFS is an excellent general purpose filesystem/volume manager. I think you will find as the number of disks you have at your disposal increases and as you perform more real world test (I'm thinking performing lots of single row updates and deletes) oracle performance will become erratic :( , I think you will be happier with ASM or an extent based filesystem for oracle. For my understanding, the ZIL should be able to handle the update/delete part. Are there any simulated real world tests? I would really like to deploy ZFS in a couple of month for Oracle Databases. I haven't had the time to do any DB on ZFS testing, but I don't like ASM. IMHO, Oracle should do things in their domain (database stuff) and keep their fingers out of functionality that is the domain of Unix (namely storage). Maybe there are some environments where ASM is ok (small machines, development machines etc.), but I don't see any use for it in bigger in environments, where we have a segregation of duty. If Oracle wants to play with Unix, they can start converting their services to Solaris' SMF :-) Mika # mv Disclaimer.txt /dev/null - This message is intended for the addressee only and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended receiver, any disclosure, copying to any person or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on this e-mail, is prohibited and may be un- lawful. You must therefore delete this e-mail. Internet communications may not be secure or error-free and may contain viruses. They may be subject to possible data corruption, accidental or on purpose. This e-mail is not and should not be construed as an offer or the solicitation of an offer to purchase or subscribe or sell or redeem any investments. - ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Roadmap Solaris
Hi I was searching for a Solaris Roadmap, but couldn't find anything. Is there something around, where the approximate release dates of Solaris 10 updates and Solaris 11 are mentioned and what new features might be included for each release? I know, I'm a feature junkie :-) Unfortunatly, I can't use Nevada in Production Thanks Mika # mv Disclaimer.txt /dev/null - This message is intended for the addressee only and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended receiver, any disclosure, copying to any person or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on this e-mail, is prohibited and may be un- lawful. You must therefore delete this e-mail. Internet communications may not be secure or error-free and may contain viruses. They may be subject to possible data corruption, accidental or on purpose. This e-mail is not and should not be construed as an offer or the solicitation of an offer to purchase or subscribe or sell or redeem any investments. - ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] No google code hosting for CDDL/OpenSolaris based projects
There is a campaign against the CDDL and I don't know who's behind that campaign. Not sure... A week ago, I did enhance the amount of information about the CDDL on wikipedia and yesterday, this additional information has been removed. From my point of view, all the important information is still there. The entry was just fixed, to not sound like a religious war. IMHO if you want to point your finger at FSF then you should add a controversy section. See the diff http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Common_Development_and_Distribution_Licensediff=69440919oldid=68681390 Mika # mv Disclaimer.txt /dev/null - This message is intended for the addressee only and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended receiver, any disclosure, copying to any person or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on this e-mail, is prohibited and may be un- lawful. You must therefore delete this e-mail. Internet communications may not be secure or error-free and may contain viruses. They may be subject to possible data corruption, accidental or on purpose. This e-mail is not and should not be construed as an offer or the solicitation of an offer to purchase or subscribe or sell or redeem any investments. - ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] No google code hosting for CDDL/OpenSolaris based projects
Did you really look at the differences? Yes They removed the information about the fact that the CDDL has been selected as one of 9 preferred licenses and they removed a hint on a link that is just a collection of all false claims on the CDDL. Both information is there. Line 1: The CDDL is one of the 9 preferred licenses listed by the OSI and Line 17 (External Links): [http://members.optusnet.com.au/benjamincarlyle/benjamin/blog/2005/02/04#cddl CDDL Analysis Summary] The only difference is, that your sentence that collects all wrong claims on the CDDL was removed. This would be the part that I would write under a new section controversy. Mika # mv Disclaimer.txt /dev/null - This message is intended for the addressee only and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended receiver, any disclosure, copying to any person or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on this e-mail, is prohibited and may be un- lawful. You must therefore delete this e-mail. Internet communications may not be secure or error-free and may contain viruses. They may be subject to possible data corruption, accidental or on purpose. This e-mail is not and should not be construed as an offer or the solicitation of an offer to purchase or subscribe or sell or redeem any investments. - ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Interesting comments about OpenSolaris from IBM
IBM just doesn't get it... I have worked with both AIX and Solaris. But having access to the source code, has saved my a** many times. Not to forget, that with following what's happening in OpenSolaris, I know what happens in Solaris in the next months/years. Based on this information, I can already plan my IT's near future... and that is what I call the most interesting thing to do as a system engineer. When was the last time IBM did something interesting with AIX? When was their last AIX product anouncement, where is their roadmap and what is their vision? http://news.com.com/Firing+up+IBMs+Unix+business/2008-1010_3-6101559.html Do you ever consider open-sourcing AIX the way Sun is open-sourcing Solaris? Mauri: No, we're not. I think that OpenSolaris is a little bit of a game Sun is playing to try to get good PR. But I don't think it's in the spirit of true open source. We have been very happy to get directly involved and contribute to Linux and Apache and the Eclipse Foundation. We're not going to open-source AIX. It's best run on the current model, where we have the expertise. We enhance it. We work closely with our customers to listen to their requirements. But in the end, it's best that we control that source code. Also interesting what they say about the Niagara Chip: Sun managed to turn things around a little bit recently and gain some market share at IBM's expense, and I noted also during their second quarter of 2006, Sun sold $100 million worth of their UltraSparc T1 Niagara-based servers. Do you see Sun as a resurgent threat? Mauri: After 10 straight quarters of decline, I guess their compare (comparison with year-earlier results) has got easy enough that they were going to bounce back a little bit. I have seen what they have done with their Niagara Servers and their Galaxy Servers, but I think they are still struggling. They did make some of those Niagara sales in their installed base. # mv Disclaimer.txt /dev/null - This message is intended for the addressee only and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended receiver, any disclosure, copying to any person or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on this e-mail, is prohibited and may be un- lawful. You must therefore delete this e-mail. Internet communications may not be secure or error-free and may contain viruses. They may be subject to possible data corruption, accidental or on purpose. This e-mail is not and should not be construed as an offer or the solicitation of an offer to purchase or subscribe or sell or redeem any investments. - ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Slowaris vs. Solaris
gheet [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/03/06 4:04 pm Let hope I am not taking you out of context on this quote, go talk to any Linux desktop guys and asked them to dump the X Window System, you will get some funny looks :). The whole of Linux desktop such as GNOME or KDE are built on top of X. X is the basis of all the GUI system for all variant of Linux that I know about :). So Solaris is not the odd one out as you may have pointed. Maybe I was a little bit harsh with my comments about X. But my opinion is still, that X is in need of a major overhaul (someday...). I'm not using X that much anymore in the sense of opening remote applications. And if I do, then over an ssh tunnel, which is, accessed over e.g. an VPN Tunnel is really slow. There are better ways to open GUI applications remotly (SunRay Protocol? Tarantella? Web-Interface?). Also, I find Apple's Quartz is technically much more elegant, and you can run X on it, for legacy apps. Of course, writing a replacement for X would require a huge effort. I hope I haven't offended anyone. I still use X alot, but I also use Quartz, and this allows me to compare. PS: Sorry for the disclaimer, but I am not able to remove it... - This message is intended for the addressee only and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended receiver, any disclosure, copying to any person or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on this e-mail, is prohibited and may be un- lawful. You must therefore delete this e-mail. Internet communications may not be secure or error-free and may contain viruses. They may be subject to possible data corruption, accidental or on purpose. This e-mail is not and should not be construed as an offer or the solicitation of an offer to purchase or subscribe or sell or redeem any investments. - ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Slowaris vs. Solaris
Darren J Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/31/06 2:31 pm I also think that Apple does provide sufficient control over system config these days. No longer is it a don't touch but instead they have sufficient legacy in doing stuff through the GUI because there was no CLI that they understand how to arrange a GUI so it doesn't feel slow and clunky to experience people. The critical think I think though is AppleScript - being able to interact with the GUI progamatically like you would with the UNIX shell is great. To make Solaris more attractive compared to Linux (et al.) we should dump the whole X-Window System. Sun should, as they did e.g. with replacing the init scripts with smf, make a paradigm shift. The X-Window system was ok years ago, when there were no web browser based applications, and administration tools had to be opened remotly. When was the last time you opened xclock remotly? :-) IMHO Apple did the right thing with dumping X for Aqua with the possibility of runnin X on top of it, for legacy apps. Let's face it, X should die. We need something new. - This message is intended for the addressee only and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended receiver, any disclosure, copying to any person or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on this e-mail, is prohibited and may be un- lawful. You must therefore delete this e-mail. Internet communications may not be secure or error-free and may contain viruses. They may be subject to possible data corruption, accidental or on purpose. This e-mail is not and should not be construed as an offer or the solicitation of an offer to purchase or subscribe or sell or redeem any investments. - ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Replacement name for Band of Brothers
Thoughts/suggestions? OpenSolaris Tres Amigos - This message is intended for the addressee only and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended receiver, any disclosure, copying to any person or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on this e-mail, is prohibited and may be un- lawful. You must therefore delete this e-mail. Internet communications may not be secure or error-free and may contain viruses. They may be subject to possible data corruption, accidental or on purpose. This e-mail is not and should not be construed as an offer or the solicitation of an offer to purchase or subscribe or sell or redeem any investments. - ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
