Re: [osol-discuss] OpenIndiana - a new OpenSolaris Distribution!

2010-09-15 Thread Daniel Kjar
Just downloaded and installed OIndi in virtualbox.  Installed srss5, followed 
the instructions on the forums, added a couple of missing packages for dhcp and 
bang!  it works great.

Fantastic.
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Re: [osol-discuss] OpenIndiana - a new OpenSolaris Distribution!

2010-09-15 Thread Alexander
I've just looked at it. It looks rather interesting. I've thought about 
migration from SXCE b97 to OpenSolaris 2010.x on our terminal (SRSS) servers. 
However, it didn't happen on obvious reason. Later we decided to wait for 
CentOS 6.0 and move there... It would allow us to use legacy SRSS terminals and 
to start deploying new LTSP-based terminals. Now I'm not so sure. There is a 
chance that legacy SRSS terminals will move to OpenIndiana. However, this 
decision can be made only after production release and careful testing...
I would rather change SRSS terminals with LTSP ones completely, but it seems to 
be impossible in the nearest future. However, SRSS appliances die more and more 
often during last two years...

 Just downloaded and installed OIndi in virtualbox.
 Installed srss5, followed the instructions on the
 forums, added a couple of missing packages for dhcp
  and bang!  it works great.
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Re: [osol-discuss] OpenIndiana - a new OpenSolaris Distribution!

2010-09-14 Thread betchou betchou
That's today the presentation!!! :)

2010/9/13 Orvar Korvar knatte_fnatte_tja...@yahoo.com

 Great news! :)  I will surely run OpenIndiana. I would like to try
 something else than b134.

 I hope you make clear instructions how to upgrade from b134. Preferably
 copy  paste commands. Looking forward to the announcement tomorrow! :)
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Re: [osol-discuss] OpenIndiana - a new OpenSolaris Distribution!

2010-09-14 Thread Edward Martinez
 That's today the presentation!!! :)

the press conference will be held  in London  at 6:30pm UK Time.
so in my area, Los Angeles  that converts  to about 10:30 am

here is a time converter so no body will miss this conference.

http://www.timezoneconverter.com/cgi-bin/tzc.tzc
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Re: [osol-discuss] OpenIndiana - a new OpenSolaris Distribution!

2010-09-14 Thread Ian Collins

On 09/14/10 09:23 PM, Edward Martinez wrote:

That's today the presentation!!! :)
 

the press conference will be held  in London  at 6:30pm UK Time.
so in my area, Los Angeles  that converts  to about 10:30 am

here is a time converter so no body will miss this conference.

http://www.timezoneconverter.com/cgi-bin/tzc.tzc
   


Except for those of us who don't fancy getting up at 5:30AM!

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Re: [osol-discuss] OpenIndiana - a new OpenSolaris Distribution!

2010-09-14 Thread Gary
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 3:25 AM PDT, Ian Collins wrote:

 Except for those of us who don't fancy getting up at 5:30AM!

Are you somewhere between Hawaii and the int'l date line? It takes
place at 10:30am Pacific time (1730 UTC).

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Re: [osol-discuss] OpenIndiana - a new OpenSolaris Distribution!

2010-09-13 Thread Hillel Lubman
Alasdair Lumsden wrote:
 Upgrades work perfectly :-)
 It's just a case of adding the OpenIndiana repo, setting --non-sticky on 
 opensolaris.org,
 and doing an image-update.

That's great.

I see there was a whole discussion regarding the name of the new distribution:
http://openindiana.org/pipermail/openindiana-discuss/2010-August/26.html

I guess it's already decided. Pity you didn't make it open with some name 
contest or something :)

Regards,

Hillel.
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Re: [osol-discuss] OpenIndiana - a new OpenSolaris Distribution!

2010-09-13 Thread Orvar Korvar
Great news! :)  I will surely run OpenIndiana. I would like to try something 
else than b134.

I hope you make clear instructions how to upgrade from b134. Preferably copy  
paste commands. Looking forward to the announcement tomorrow! :)
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Re: [osol-discuss] OpenIndiana - a new OpenSolaris Distribution!

2010-09-12 Thread Joerg Schilling
Daniel Kjar kjard...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Will it be compatible with the newest sunray software (srss 5 (4.2))?

AFAIK, the Sunray server is closed source and cannot be redistributed. 

If this is true, the related code cannot be made part of a free distro.

I believe the most important current problem is the fact that OpenSolaris is 
not yet self hosting. You cannot yet compile the ONNV code using freely 
redistributable and OSS based code. I am working on this problem and there will 
be a new SchilliX distro soon that allows to recompile ONNV or Illumos.

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Re: [osol-discuss] OpenIndiana - a new OpenSolaris Distribution!

2010-09-12 Thread Alasdair Lumsden

On 12 Sep 2010, at 12:57, Joerg Schilling wrote:

 Daniel Kjar kjard...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 Will it be compatible with the newest sunray software (srss 5 (4.2))?
 
 AFAIK, the Sunray server is closed source and cannot be redistributed. 
 
 If this is true, the related code cannot be made part of a free distro.
 
 I believe the most important current problem is the fact that OpenSolaris is 
 not yet self hosting. You cannot yet compile the ONNV code using freely 
 redistributable and OSS based code. I am working on this problem and there 
 will 
 be a new SchilliX distro soon that allows to recompile ONNV or Illumos.

Hi Joerg,

I think Daniel meant Can Sunray server be run on OpenIndiana, not Can Sunray 
server be compiled and distributed with OpenIndiana.

The former is possible, the latter is obviously not since its closed source 
software.

In theory Oracle 11g database should run on OpenIndiana, for example.

Cheers,

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Re: [osol-discuss] OpenIndiana - a new OpenSolaris Distribution!

2010-09-12 Thread ken mays
ON_147 is good enough for the initial Tuesday release of the OpenIndiana 
distro. The Illumos patch updates to ON_147 is planned for the following 
OpenIndiana distro release in Oct 2010.

If you want to use the Illumos patched ON-147+ kernel release, you can give the 
Schillix 0.7.1i server distro a try.

Both distros are very reliable for enterprise server usage within data centers 
and for daily desktop usage (moreso OpenIndiana for 
desktops/workstations/laptops). Handle as you would with an BETA OS distro in 
the data center (or home use). 

So far, the OpenIndiana distro is a 'rock solid' solution and a great evolution 
from the Opensolaris project. 

~ Ken Mays


--- On Sat, 9/11/10, Orvar Korvar knatte_fnatte_tja...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: Orvar Korvar knatte_fnatte_tja...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] OpenIndiana - a new OpenSolaris Distribution!
 To: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
 Date: Saturday, September 11, 2010, 6:58 PM
 This is interesting. b147 you say?
 Cool! 
 
 It is not based on illumos. When will it be based on
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Re: [osol-discuss] OpenIndiana - a new OpenSolaris Distribution!

2010-09-12 Thread Michael Kerpan
I just hope that OpenIndiana will intergrate the Heirloom tools rather
than completely GNU-ifying the userland like Nexenta.

Mike
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Re: [osol-discuss] OpenIndiana - a new OpenSolaris Distribution!

2010-09-12 Thread Orvar Korvar
However, I got read speed for NTFS is like 3MB/sec. Not really useable for much 
data. But of course, it is good to be able to read small documents.
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Re: [osol-discuss] OpenIndiana - a new OpenSolaris Distribution!

2010-09-12 Thread Orvar Korvar
Huh? I have got Srss 4.2 running on b134 for a long time. It is documented on 
the internet how to make it run. What is your problem, what happened and what 
are the symptoms?
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Re: [osol-discuss] OpenIndiana - a new OpenSolaris Distribution!

2010-09-12 Thread Daniel Kjar
Yes, I have my own licensed srss 4.2, I want to install it on newer versions of 
opensolaris.

I have tried to shoe horn it with what I have found online but most of the 
hints and tricks stop at 2009 /06

for example 
http://wiki.sun-rays.org/index.php/SRSS_4.1_on_OpenSolaris_2008.11#OpenSolaris_2009.06

They do have additions on how to get it going in later versions but I have not 
been able to get it to run.

I would really like it to just install and run and not get borked everytime I 
update.  But as I said, this is a pretty specific hope so I know there are 
bigger fish to fry right now.
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Re: [osol-discuss] OpenIndiana - a new OpenSolaris Distribution!

2010-09-12 Thread Hillel Lubman
Ken Mays wrote:

 So far, the OpenIndiana distro is a 'rock solid' solution and
 a great evolution from the Opensolaris project.

Great news. Will it be possible to upgrade existing installation of OpenSolaris 
snv_134 to OpenIndiana, or it will require a fresh install?

Thanks,

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Re: [osol-discuss] OpenIndiana - a new OpenSolaris Distribution!

2010-09-12 Thread Alasdair Lumsden
On 12 Sep 2010, at 20:59, Hillel Lubman wrote:

 Ken Mays wrote:
 
 So far, the OpenIndiana distro is a 'rock solid' solution and
 a great evolution from the Opensolaris project.
 
 Great news. Will it be possible to upgrade existing installation of 
 OpenSolaris snv_134 to OpenIndiana, or it will require a fresh install?

Upgrades work perfectly :-)

It's just a case of adding the OpenIndiana repo, setting --non-sticky on 
opensolaris.org, and doing an image-update.
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Re: [osol-discuss] OpenIndiana - a new OpenSolaris Distribution!

2010-09-12 Thread Edward Martinez
 On Tuesday 14th September, we will be unveiling
 OpenIndiana – an
 exciting new distribution of OpenSolaris!
 
 OpenIndiana is a continuation of the OpenSolaris
 operating system.

the news of this great milestone is already hitting the news wave  and i think 
this event will be 100x better then openworld :-)

excerpt:
he formal announcement of the launch of Project OpenIndiana will be made 
tomorrow (September 14, UK time), nicely timed to take place about a week ahead 
of Oracle's OpenWorld conference in the US.

http://www.itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis/open-sauce/41808-opensolaris-fork-to-be-announced
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/09/10/openindiana_launch/
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Re: [osol-discuss] OpenIndiana - a new OpenSolaris Distribution!

2010-09-11 Thread Cia Watson
Given the new license details for what will be Oracle Solaris 11 
Express, it appears I won't be upgrading my snv_134 osol to Sol11 
express (since I'm not a developer), and so am looking forward to 
details about OpenIndiana.


I have one question at the moment:  Will there be ext3 and/or ext4 
support? I have a shared data partition in ext3 that I would need to be 
able to mount periodically.


Thanks.

Cia

On 09/ 9/10 03:53 PM, Alasdair Lumsden wrote:

On Tuesday 14th September, we will be unveiling OpenIndiana – an
exciting new distribution of OpenSolaris!

OpenIndiana is a continuation of the OpenSolaris operating system. It
was conceived during the period of uncertainty following the Oracle
takeover of Sun Microsystems, after several months passed with no
binary updates made available to the public. The formation proved
timely, as Oracle has since discontinued OpenSolaris in favour of
Solaris 11 Express, a binary distribution with a more closed
development model to debut later this year.

OpenIndiana is part of the Illumos Foundation, and provides a true
open source community alternative to Solaris 11 and Solaris 11
Express, with an open development model and full community
participation.

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Re: [osol-discuss] OpenIndiana - a new OpenSolaris Distribution!

2010-09-11 Thread Gary Driggs
On Sep 11, 2010, at 9:09 AM, Cia Watson wrote:

 I have one question at the moment:  Will there be ext3 and/or ext4 support? I 
 have a shared data partition in ext3 that I would need to be able to mount 
 periodically.

There is already a read only filesystem package that allows mounting of NTFS, 
FAT, and ext3 partitions.

http://blogs.sun.com/pradhap/entry/mount_ntfs_ext2_ext3_in
http://watters.ws/mediawiki/index.php/Mount_ext3_drives_in_Solaris
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Re: [osol-discuss] OpenIndiana - a new OpenSolaris Distribution!

2010-09-11 Thread Orvar Korvar
This is interesting. b147 you say? Cool! 

It is not based on illumos. When will it be based on illumos?
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Re: [osol-discuss] OpenIndiana - a new OpenSolaris Distribution!

2010-09-11 Thread Daniel Kjar
Will it be compatible with the newest sunray software (srss 5 (4.2))?
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Re: [osol-discuss] OpenIndiana - a new OpenSolaris Distribution!

2010-09-11 Thread Alasdair Lumsden
On 12 Sep 2010, at 01:42, Daniel Kjar wrote:

 Will it be compatible with the newest sunray software (srss 5 (4.2))?

If SunRay Software runs on OpenSolaris b134 then theres a fairly good chance it 
will run on OpenIndiana. It's something we would be very keen to ensure works 
on our /stable branch, as obviously SunRays are amazing pieces of equipment.

If there were any challenges, I'm sure the developer community would be keen to 
step up to fix them.

We're aiming to release this coming week so tune in to our announcement and 
give our first development build a spin, and report any issues with SRSS to our 
bug tracker.

Cheers,

Alasdair
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Re: [osol-discuss] OpenIndiana - a new OpenSolaris Distribution!

2010-09-11 Thread Daniel Kjar
Excellent.  I am glad to hear you think that may be valuable.

Sadly though srss 4.2 does not work (easily, or even moderately easily with 
b134).  Not saying somebody couldn't figure out why and create simple scripts 
to make it work though!
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Re: [osol-discuss] OpenIndiana - a new OpenSolaris Distribution!

2010-09-11 Thread Cia Watson

 On 09/11/2010 07:54 PM, Gary Driggs wrote:

On Sep 11, 2010, at 9:09 AM, Cia Watson wrote:


I have one question at the moment:  Will there be ext3 and/or ext4 support? I 
have a shared data partition in ext3 that I would need to be able to mount 
periodically.

There is already a read only filesystem package that allows mounting of NTFS, 
FAT, and ext3 partitions.

http://blogs.sun.com/pradhap/entry/mount_ntfs_ext2_ext3_in
http://watters.ws/mediawiki/index.php/Mount_ext3_drives_in_Solaris
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Thanks for the info., I did find an ext3 module and info here:
http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Project+ext3/Quick+howto

So I've had read-write access to a data partition formatted as ext3, I 
just wanted to make sure there would be similar support in OpenIndiana. 
I received a reply from Ken M. that there will be support for ext3/4 and 
NTFS. It's all good.

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Re: [osol-discuss] OpenIndiana - a new OpenSolaris Distribution!

2010-09-10 Thread ken mays
--- On Fri, 9/10/10, Nikola M minik...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Nikola M minik...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] OpenIndiana - a new OpenSolaris Distribution!
 To: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
 Date: Friday, September 10, 2010, 1:21 AM
 Alasdair Lumsden wrote:
  On Tuesday 14th September, we will be unveiling
 OpenIndiana – an
  exciting new distribution of OpenSolaris!
    
 Great! Hope more people will join in to make it happen.
 
 I suppose there will be some kind of webcast?
 Few cameras to record event and also public access and
 participation, on
 IRC channel or direct. And available audio/video recording
 of an event
 (or some other ways beside IRC to participate in event over
 Internet,
 during it is on).
 
 One question: Couldn't Indiana as part of name, be
 claimed by Oracle,
 since that was internal project name for Project Indiana
 with a goal
 of making binary OpenSolaris distribution we used untill
 now?

No.

 
 Also, there is indiana-discuss mailing list that might be
 considered
 for revival and maintenance,
 (http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/indiana-discuss)
 now that OpenIndiana is here, seems logical to revive
 Indiana list
 itself that was closed by former maintainer weeks
 ago.  

No consideration there. The purpose of 'Project Indiana' was finished a few 
years ago and the discussion forum just lingered on afterwards. Much of the 
discussion there really is best suited for other forums. Archival was better 
suited for the old indiana-discuss forum.

OpenIndiana is another project with its own discussion forums.

~ Ken Mays





  
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Re: [osol-discuss] OpenIndiana - a new OpenSolaris Distribution!

2010-09-10 Thread usafverteran
Copyright a state?

So anyone starting Indiana Software, LLC would be in conflict with Sun 
because of a codename on a project?

I guess people have sued for dumber things to try and get money.
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Re: [osol-discuss] OpenIndiana - a new OpenSolaris Distribution!

2010-09-10 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
 Copyright a state?
 
 So anyone starting Indiana Software, LLC would be
 in conflict with Sun because of a codename on a
 project?
 
 I guess people have sued for dumber things to try and
 get money.

I think that Intel and Zilog both trademarked letters
of the alphabet (i and z, respectively); or at any rate,
tried to.
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Re: [osol-discuss] OpenIndiana - a new OpenSolaris Distribution!

2010-09-10 Thread Calum Benson

On 10 Sep 2010, at 12:20, usafverteran wrote:

 So anyone starting Indiana Software, LLC would be in conflict with Sun 
 because of a codename on a project?

If Sun had copyrighted the Indiana project codename, then sure, it would be a 
strong possibility.  (But AFAIK they didn't.)

Cheeri,
Calum.

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Re: [osol-discuss] OpenIndiana - a new OpenSolaris Distribution!

2010-09-10 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Calum Benson wrote:
 On 10 Sep 2010, at 12:20, usafverteran wrote:
 
 So anyone starting Indiana Software, LLC would be in conflict with Sun 
 because of a codename on a project?
 
 If Sun had copyrighted the Indiana project codename, then sure, it would be a 
 strong possibility.  (But AFAIK they didn't.)

It would be a trademark, not a copyright, but one of the reasons many companies
use place names as project code names is to reduce the chances of accidentally
infringing some other companies trademark, especially given the restrictions in
trademark laws about using geographic names in trademarks.   (Ask a trademark
lawyer or Google to explain those, as they're complicated.)

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Re: [osol-discuss] OpenIndiana - a new OpenSolaris Distribution!

2010-09-10 Thread Calum Benson

On 10 Sep 2010, at 16:20, Alan Coopersmith wrote:

 Calum Benson wrote:
 On 10 Sep 2010, at 12:20, usafverteran wrote:
 
 So anyone starting Indiana Software, LLC would be in conflict with Sun 
 because of a codename on a project?
 
 If Sun had copyrighted the Indiana project codename, then sure, it would be 
 a strong possibility.  (But AFAIK they didn't.)
 
 It would be a trademark, not a copyright

D'oh, yes, it would indeed.

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Re: [osol-discuss] OpenIndiana - a new OpenSolaris Distribution!

2010-09-10 Thread David Brodbeck

On Sep 10, 2010, at 4:44 AM, Richard L. Hamilton wrote:

 Copyright a state?
 
 So anyone starting Indiana Software, LLC would be
 in conflict with Sun because of a codename on a
 project?
 
 I guess people have sued for dumber things to try and
 get money.
 
 I think that Intel and Zilog both trademarked letters
 of the alphabet (i and z, respectively); or at any rate,
 tried to.

I don't know about that, but IBM once successfully defended a trademark on 
/2, as in PS/2.  A company was selling a PS/2-protocol mouse called the 
Mouse/2.

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[osol-discuss] OpenIndiana - a new OpenSolaris Distribution!

2010-09-09 Thread Alasdair Lumsden
On Tuesday 14th September, we will be unveiling OpenIndiana – an
exciting new distribution of OpenSolaris!

OpenIndiana is a continuation of the OpenSolaris operating system. It
was conceived during the period of uncertainty following the Oracle
takeover of Sun Microsystems, after several months passed with no
binary updates made available to the public. The formation proved
timely, as Oracle has since discontinued OpenSolaris in favour of
Solaris 11 Express, a binary distribution with a more closed
development model to debut later this year.

OpenIndiana is part of the Illumos Foundation, and provides a true
open source community alternative to Solaris 11 and Solaris 11
Express, with an open development model and full community
participation.


Announcement Details


We will be holding a press conference in London (UK) at the JISC
offices at 6:30pm UK Time (BST, GMT+1) to formally announce the
project and provide full details, including information on gaining
access to download our first development release. In addition, we will
be broadcasting live on the internet – please see
http://openindiana.org/announcement for details of attending in person
or on the web.

We believe this announcement will deliver the distribution the
community has long sought after.

Please see our website at: http://openindiana.org/
Please follow us on twitter at: http://twitter.com/openindiana
Tickets for attending the press conference: http://openindiana.eventbrite.com/

We look forward to seeing you at the announcement :-)

The OpenIndiana Team.
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Re: [osol-discuss] OpenIndiana - a new OpenSolaris Distribution!

2010-09-09 Thread Ashish Nabira

All the best 

Looking forward to use it

regards;
Ashish Nabira
Enterprise IT Architect

Sun Microsystems, Inc.
7th floor , Prestige Obelisk, Kasturba Rd
Bangalore, KN 560025 IN
Phone x89854/+91 8066930 854
Mobile +919845082183
Email ashish.nab...@sun.com


On 10-Sep-10, at 4:23 AM, Alasdair Lumsden wrote:

On Tuesday 14th September, we will be unveiling OpenIndiana – an
exciting new distribution of OpenSolaris!

OpenIndiana is a continuation of the OpenSolaris operating system. It
was conceived during the period of uncertainty following the Oracle
takeover of Sun Microsystems, after several months passed with no
binary updates made available to the public. The formation proved
timely, as Oracle has since discontinued OpenSolaris in favour of
Solaris 11 Express, a binary distribution with a more closed
development model to debut later this year.

OpenIndiana is part of the Illumos Foundation, and provides a true
open source community alternative to Solaris 11 and Solaris 11
Express, with an open development model and full community
participation.


Announcement Details


We will be holding a press conference in London (UK) at the JISC
offices at 6:30pm UK Time (BST, GMT+1) to formally announce the
project and provide full details, including information on gaining
access to download our first development release. In addition, we will
be broadcasting live on the internet – please see
http://openindiana.org/announcement for details of attending in person
or on the web.

We believe this announcement will deliver the distribution the
community has long sought after.

Please see our website at: http://openindiana.org/
Please follow us on twitter at: http://twitter.com/openindiana
Tickets for attending the press conference: http://openindiana.eventbrite.com/

We look forward to seeing you at the announcement :-)

The OpenIndiana Team.
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Re: [osol-discuss] OpenIndiana - a new OpenSolaris Distribution!

2010-09-09 Thread Alex Smith (K4RNT)
I'll be looking forward to trying it out. Wish I could make it to the
unveiling... :)

-Alex Smith, Server+, Network+

On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 17:53, Alasdair Lumsden alasdai...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tuesday 14th September, we will be unveiling OpenIndiana – an
 exciting new distribution of OpenSolaris!

 OpenIndiana is a continuation of the OpenSolaris operating system. It
 was conceived during the period of uncertainty following the Oracle
 takeover of Sun Microsystems, after several months passed with no
 binary updates made available to the public. The formation proved
 timely, as Oracle has since discontinued OpenSolaris in favour of
 Solaris 11 Express, a binary distribution with a more closed
 development model to debut later this year.

 OpenIndiana is part of the Illumos Foundation, and provides a true
 open source community alternative to Solaris 11 and Solaris 11
 Express, with an open development model and full community
 participation.


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- Alex Smith (K4RNT)
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Re: [osol-discuss] OpenIndiana - a new OpenSolaris Distribution!

2010-09-09 Thread Nikola M
Alasdair Lumsden wrote:
 On Tuesday 14th September, we will be unveiling OpenIndiana – an
 exciting new distribution of OpenSolaris!
   
Great! Hope more people will join in to make it happen.

I suppose there will be some kind of webcast?
Few cameras to record event and also public access and participation, on
IRC channel or direct. And available audio/video recording of an event
(or some other ways beside IRC to participate in event over Internet,
during it is on).

One question: Couldn't Indiana as part of name, be claimed by Oracle,
since that was internal project name for Project Indiana with a goal
of making binary OpenSolaris distribution we used untill now?

Also, there is indiana-discuss mailing list that might be considered
for revival and maintenance,
(http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/indiana-discuss)
now that OpenIndiana is here, seems logical to revive Indiana list
itself that was closed by former maintainer weeks ago.  (beside
activating its own OpenIndiana mailing lists)

Anyway, good luck to us all with new OpenSolaris based distro ;)

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