Re: [opensuse-factory] Problem with Sound and Suspend

2006-06-08 Thread Lenz Grimmer
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Hi,

Marcel Hilzinger wrote:

 Thanks for the explanations. I will open a bugreport then.

As a colleague of mine faces the same problem: what is the bug ID
of this one? I'd like to track it. Thanks!

Bye,
LenZ
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Re: [opensuse-factory] SUSE 10.1 sources DVD

2006-06-08 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
On Sun 04 Jun 2006 01:25:28 NZST +1200, Christoph Thiel wrote:

   We have two source DVDs lying around -- but as of now they didn't get 
   pushed out to the mirrors. And I'd actually prefer to just offer .jigdo 
   files for those, as the .src.rpms are in the ftp anyway.

Good scheme.

 Those jigdo files aren't online (yet).

Any chances for an ETA? Or are there political reasons why you don't
just plonk it into the iso directory (with md5 of the full iso image)?

Thanks,

Volker

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Re: [opensuse-factory] SUSE 10.1 sources DVD

2006-06-08 Thread Martin Schlander
Torsdag 08 juni 2006 22:11 skrev Volker Kuhlmann:
 Any chances for an ETA? Or are there political reasons why you don't
 just plonk it into the iso directory (with md5 of the full iso image)?

You're aware that all the src-rpms are available?

http://ftp.belnet.be/linux/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.1/inst-source/suse/src/
http://ftp.belnet.be/linux/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.1/non-oss-inst-source/suse/src/

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Re: [opensuse] overflow issue w/ EIP

2006-06-08 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Thu, Jun 08, 2006 at 01:23:42AM -0400, Robert Hudock wrote:
 Question:
 
 For some reason on suse 10.0 and 10.1 I cannot overflow the buffer so as
 to overwrite EIP no matter what. The attached code is a very simple
 example to illustrate my issue.  Basically the following is what I get
 when the program segfaults on SuSE 10.1.
 
 However, the attached program produced the expected results  0x41414141
 in main () on FreeBSD versions 5.3 and 6.1, on redhat 7.2
 
 Any ideas why this is happening?  What sort of security controls are in
 place that prevent this from happening?  Are these controls unique to
 SuSE?
 
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 (gdb) run
 Starting program: /home/plato/overflow
 warning: Lowest section in system-supplied DSO at 0xe000 is .hash at
 e0b4
 
 Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
 0x080483ec in main () at overflow.c:6
 6   }

You wrote over the end of the stack page into unallocated memory most likely.

 (gdb)  
 
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 Regards,
 
 Robert Hudock

 main () {
 char str1[10];
 strcpy (str1, 
 AAA);

Try a shorter string (perhaps 15 - 20 A) first.

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Re: [opensuse] overflow issue w/ EIP

2006-06-08 Thread Silviu Marin-Caea
On Thursday 08 June 2006 08:23, Robert Hudock wrote:

 For some reason on suse 10.0 and 10.1 I cannot overflow the buffer so as
 to overwrite EIP no matter what. The attached code is a very simple
 example to illustrate my issue.  Basically the following is what I get
 when the program segfaults on SuSE 10.1.

So aren't you going to explain what could you possibly need this for?  Because 
it sounds like you're asking for a bomb recipe...


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Re: [opensuse] [EMAIL PROTECTED] = opensuse-help gets my vote

2006-06-08 Thread scsijon

At 11:07 AM 6/06/2006, you wrote:

Martin Schlander wrote:
 snipHenne's proposal is
 good - but we should learn from our mistakes and enhance it a little bit.

 opensuse-users@ - opensuse-help


maybe this would be better if it was - opensuse-helpusers

so people know it's help for users and not help for the opensuse 
mailing system?


Oh, yes, and I think the base list should still exist, but only as a 
autoreply explaining

the different lists and what they are for.


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[opensuse] Package manager update tomorrow ...

2006-06-08 Thread Adrian Schröter

Hi,

we will most likely do a first big package manager update tomorrow. The update 
does include a large number of bugfixes and some first performance 
improvements.
 We will do for sure another update later, with further performance 
optimizations and patch rpm support.

 You can test it already, when you add the following URL in the 
YaST Installation Sources module and run the YaST Online Update module 
afterwards:

  ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/aj/10.1-packagemanagement-update-test/

The online update will only update the package manager at the first run. The 
second run will apply all other patches.

You should also temporary disable your existing update source in this module, 
since we know that the current repository meta data is broken. This will be 
fixed with this update tomorrow as well. All existing updates are in the test 
repository as well.

You can find a README inside the directory above with more details how to test 
this.

Please give us any kind of feedback. We know that we are the package manager 
is not yet yet perfect, but this update should improve the situation a lot :)

bye
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Re: [opensuse] Package manager update tomorrow ...

2006-06-08 Thread Hartmut Meyer
Hi,

Am Donnerstag, 8. Juni 2006 16:03 schrieb Adrian Schröter:

 Please give us any kind of feedback. We know that we are the package
 manager is not yet yet perfect, but this update should improve the
 situation a lot :)

One thing I noticed when I try to install the libzypp update: among the many 
packages that are listed as part of this patch, one of them is rug.

And it wants to keep it (rug-7.1.1.0-18) even though a newer version is 
available (rug-7.1.1.0-18.9).

See screenshot:

  http://hmeyer.dyndns.org/beta/libzypp-update.png


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Re: [opensuse] Package manager update tomorrow ...

2006-06-08 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Thu, Jun 08, 2006 at 04:53:38PM +0200, Hartmut Meyer wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Am Donnerstag, 8. Juni 2006 16:34 schrieb Hartmut Meyer:
 
  Am Donnerstag, 8. Juni 2006 16:03 schrieb Adrian Schröter:
   Please give us any kind of feedback. We know that we are the package
   manager is not yet yet perfect, but this update should improve the
   situation a lot :)
 
 A question about the README:
 
 --- snip -
 * You can now remove the software catalog you added in the first step.
   Use yast2 inst_source and delete the catalog.
 --- snap -
 
 After only installing libzypp? And without re-activating the old update 
 catalog?

The old one should be added and activated again.

Ciao, Marcus

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Re: [opensuse] Package manager update tomorrow ...

2006-06-08 Thread Hartmut Meyer
Hi,

Am Donnerstag, 8. Juni 2006 16:34 schrieb Hartmut Meyer:
 Am Donnerstag, 8. Juni 2006 16:03 schrieb Adrian Schröter:
  Please give us any kind of feedback. We know that we are the package
  manager is not yet yet perfect, but this update should improve the
  situation a lot :)

 One thing I noticed when I try to install the libzypp update: among the
 many packages that are listed as part of this patch, one of them is rug.

 And it wants to keep it (rug-7.1.1.0-18) even though a newer version is
 available (rug-7.1.1.0-18.9).

 See screenshot:

   http://hmeyer.dyndns.org/beta/libzypp-update.png

More oddities (after installing the libzypp update and restarting zmd as 
described in the readme):

YaST2 online_update and the ZEN updater do not show consistent results when 
looking for available updates:

   http://hmeyer.dyndns.org/beta/libzypp-update-new.png

BTW: regarding the only update (ifolder3) that is offered through YaST2 
online_update, YaST2 online_update complained that there is no source 
available to fetch the suggested ifolder3 update (someting about 
atom:ifolder3...).

I then compared the installation sources in YaST2 with what rug is reporting 
(rug sl) and sure enough this isn't in sync. E.g. the 
10.1-packagemanagement-update-test catalog is listed as active by rug but as 
inactive in YaST2.

And all the available updates that are listed by zen-updater but are not 
listed by online_update are from that 10.1-packagemanagement-update-test 
catalog.

Should we not expect that YaST2 and zen-updater/rug are completely in sync as 
far as the installation sources are concerned?


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Re: [opensuse] Package manager update tomorrow ...

2006-06-08 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Thu, Jun 08, 2006 at 05:37:06PM +0200, Hartmut Meyer wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Am Donnerstag, 8. Juni 2006 16:34 schrieb Hartmut Meyer:
  Am Donnerstag, 8. Juni 2006 16:03 schrieb Adrian Schröter:
   Please give us any kind of feedback. We know that we are the package
   manager is not yet yet perfect, but this update should improve the
   situation a lot :)
 
  One thing I noticed when I try to install the libzypp update: among the
  many packages that are listed as part of this patch, one of them is rug.
 
  And it wants to keep it (rug-7.1.1.0-18) even though a newer version is
  available (rug-7.1.1.0-18.9).
 
  See screenshot:
 
http://hmeyer.dyndns.org/beta/libzypp-update.png
 
 More oddities (after installing the libzypp update and restarting zmd as 
 described in the readme):
 
 YaST2 online_update and the ZEN updater do not show consistent results when 
 looking for available updates:
 
http://hmeyer.dyndns.org/beta/libzypp-update-new.png
 
 BTW: regarding the only update (ifolder3) that is offered through YaST2 
 online_update, YaST2 online_update complained that there is no source 
 available to fetch the suggested ifolder3 update (someting about 
 atom:ifolder3...).
 
 I then compared the installation sources in YaST2 with what rug is reporting 
 (rug sl) and sure enough this isn't in sync. E.g. the 
 10.1-packagemanagement-update-test catalog is listed as active by rug but as 
 inactive in YaST2.
 
 And all the available updates that are listed by zen-updater but are not 
 listed by online_update are from that 10.1-packagemanagement-update-test 
 catalog.
 
 Should we not expect that YaST2 and zen-updater/rug are completely in sync as 
 far as the installation sources are concerned?

rug sl  it will likely show 2 update sources.

Please use only _one_ update source, either the test repo or the
public repo.

Ciao, marcus

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Re: [opensuse] Package manager update tomorrow ...

2006-06-08 Thread Janne Karhunen
On Thursday 08 June 2006 17:03, Adrian Schröter wrote:

  You can test it already, when you add the following URL in the
 YaST Installation Sources module and run the YaST Online Update module
 afterwards:

   ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/aj/10.1-packagemanagement-update-test/

Yast - installation source - add - specify url - add the one
above - click finish. There is only one other source active 
(standard update one) and yet, 'installation source' module exits
in mere 4 minutes. So, it's slow but works.

Online update - hmm, shows only zypp to be updated? - click 
finish and it begins updating all yast packages and finishes ok.
Wohoo! rczmd restart - alt+f2 - zen-installer - getting install
list - shows gazillion packages to be updated - click select all 
- install. After a while of resolving we're greeted with this:

Unresolved dependencies:
Installing NetworkManager-devel-0.6.2-32.11.i586[SUSE-Linux-10.1-Updates]
Can't install NetworkManager-devel-0.6.2-32.11.x86_64
[SUSE-Linux-10.1-Updates], since NetworkManager-devel-0.6.2-32.11.i586
[SUSE-Linux-10.1-Updates] is already marked as needing to be installed
Marking this resolution attempt as invalid.

OK, so this hasn't been fixed and its again attempting to install
i586 and x86-64 packages at the same time. So, to the menu to remove all
i586 packages manually. After manually clicking away 66 (!) i586 packages
we're once again greeted with:

Unresolved dependencies:
Installing netbeans-5.0-14.1.noarch[SUSE-Linux-10.1-Updates]
Can't install patch:netbeans-1451-0.noarch[SUSE-Linux-10.1-Updates] since it 
is does not apply to this system.
Can't install netbeans-5.0-14.1.noarch[20060608-183539], since 
netbeans-5.0-14.1.noarch[SUSE-Linux-10.1-Updates] is already marked as 
needing to be installed
Marking this resolution attempt as invalid.

AH OK. Where did this ghost package come from? Let's remove it and go
on. Now we get:

Unresolved dependencies:
Installing patch:kdeadmin3-1439-0.noarch[SUSE-Linux-10.1-Updates]
Can't install patch:kdeadmin3-1439-0.noarch[20060608-183539], since 
patch:kdeadmin3-1439-0.noarch[SUSE-Linux-10.1-Updates] is already marked as 
needing to be installed
Marking this resolution attempt as invalid.

OK; I get it. You don't like supplementary KDE. Let's remove all that.
Wohoo! I think it started to do something, it's saying 'installing 
software'! Only after 20 minutes of vigorous clicking. Hmm, 5 minutes of
waiting and progress bar is not moving? Hmm. What's it doing? Let's check
with gdb. ps -ef | grep zen-installer
jmk  14076  4563  2 18:50 ?00:00:27 
zen-installer /usr/lib/zen-updater/ZenInstaller.exe

EXE? EHHHEH. Ok, shall we attach gdb to it.
(gdb) attach 14076
Attaching to program: /usr/lib/zen-updater/ZenInstaller.exe, process 14076
0x366d8136 in ?? ()
(gdb) thread apply all bt
(gdb) quit (detached gracefully)   

Uh, no stack ?? What is this thing? 
file /usr/lib/zen-updater/ZenInstaller.exe
/usr/lib/zen-updater/ZenInstaller.exe: PE executable for MS Windows (console) 
Intel 80386 32-bit, Mono/.Net assembly

Sure thing. How am I supposed to debug this? Anyhoo, let's give it 
at least half an hour to do what ever it's doing.

Will let you know if it ever resumes.


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Re: [opensuse] Package manager update tomorrow ...

2006-06-08 Thread Hartmut Meyer
Hi,

Am Donnerstag, 8. Juni 2006 17:52 schrieb Marcus Meissner:

 Please use only _one_ update source, either the test repo or the
 public repo.

Sure. But my question was/is: if I deactivate a catalog in YaST2, shouldn't I 
expect that this change is also honoured by rug?

I reactivated the old update catalog (official) and deactivated the new (test) 
update catalog in yast2. But rug sl shows both of them as active.

Bug or working as designed?


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Re: [opensuse] Package manager update tomorrow ...

2006-06-08 Thread Adrian Schröter
Am Thursday 08 June 2006 18:16 schrieb Janne Karhunen:
 On Thursday 08 June 2006 17:03, Adrian Schröter wrote:
   You can test it already, when you add the following URL in the
  YaST Installation Sources module and run the YaST Online Update
  module afterwards:
 
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/aj/10.1-packagemanagement-update-test/

 Yast - installation source - add - specify url - add the one
 above - click finish. There is only one other source active
 (standard update one) and yet, 'installation source' module exits
 in mere 4 minutes. So, it's slow but works.

 Online update - hmm, shows only zypp to be updated? - click

yes, that is a feature, so that the other packages do get installed with the 
new package manager.

 finish and it begins updating all yast packages and finishes ok.
 Wohoo! rczmd restart - alt+f2 - zen-installer - getting install
 list - shows gazillion packages to be updated - click select all
 - install. After a while of resolving we're greeted with this:

With zen-updater ?

 Unresolved dependencies:
 Installing NetworkManager-devel-0.6.2-32.11.i586[SUSE-Linux-10.1-Updates]
 Can't install NetworkManager-devel-0.6.2-32.11.x86_64
 [SUSE-Linux-10.1-Updates], since NetworkManager-devel-0.6.2-32.11.i586
 [SUSE-Linux-10.1-Updates] is already marked as needing to be installed
 Marking this resolution attempt as invalid.

That should not happen. Does the same happen when you also use the YaST Online 
Update module in the second run ?

 OK, so this hasn't been fixed and its again attempting to install
 i586 and x86-64 packages at the same time. So, to the menu to remove all
 i586 packages manually. After manually clicking away 66 (!) i586 packages
 we're once again greeted with:

 Unresolved dependencies:
 Installing netbeans-5.0-14.1.noarch[SUSE-Linux-10.1-Updates]
 Can't install patch:netbeans-1451-0.noarch[SUSE-Linux-10.1-Updates] since
 it is does not apply to this system.
 Can't install netbeans-5.0-14.1.noarch[20060608-183539], since
 netbeans-5.0-14.1.noarch[SUSE-Linux-10.1-Updates] is already marked as
 needing to be installed
 Marking this resolution attempt as invalid.

I don't have the conflict with YaST Online Update. Can you check this also 
please ?

 AH OK. Where did this ghost package come from? Let's remove it and go
 on. Now we get:

 Unresolved dependencies:
 Installing patch:kdeadmin3-1439-0.noarch[SUSE-Linux-10.1-Updates]
 Can't install patch:kdeadmin3-1439-0.noarch[20060608-183539], since
 patch:kdeadmin3-1439-0.noarch[SUSE-Linux-10.1-Updates] is already marked as
 needing to be installed
 Marking this resolution attempt as invalid.

 OK; I get it. You don't like supplementary KDE. Let's remove all that.

oh, okay, I will retest with the Build Service KDE3 tomorrow.

bye
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Re: [opensuse] Package manager update tomorrow ...

2006-06-08 Thread Janne Karhunen
On Thursday 08 June 2006 19:16, Janne Karhunen wrote:

 Will let you know if it ever resumes.

It did. It greeted me after 20 minutes with this:

System.Runtime.Remoting.RemotingException: Requested service not found. No 
receiver for uri 5496586a_7bba_46be_ab19_85f7a1bc09b4/-1268504894_33.rem

Server stack trace: 
in 0x001d0 System.Runtime.Remoting.Messaging.MethodCall:ResolveMethod ()
in 0x000a7 System.Runtime.Remoting.Messaging.MethodCall:.ctor 
(System.Runtime.Remoting.Messaging.Header[] headers)
in 0x00863 
System.Runtime.Serialization.Formatters.Binary.MessageFormatter:ReadMethodCall 
(System.IO.BinaryReader reader, Boolean hasHeaders, 
System.Runtime.Remoting.Messaging.HeaderHandler headerHandler, 
System.Runtime.Serialization.Formatters.Binary.BinaryFormatter formatter)
in 0x000ff 
System.Runtime.Serialization.Formatters.Binary.BinaryFormatter:NoCheckDeserialize
 
(System.IO.Stream serializationStream, 
System.Runtime.Remoting.Messaging.HeaderHandler handler)
in 0x00024 
System.Runtime.Serialization.Formatters.Binary.BinaryFormatter:Deserialize 
(System.IO.Stream serializationStream, 
System.Runtime.Remoting.Messaging.HeaderHandler handler)
in 0x0035d 
System.Runtime.Remoting.Channels.BinaryServerFormatterSink:ProcessMessage 
(IServerChannelSinkStack sinkStack, IMessage requestMsg, ITransportHeaders 
requestHeaders, System.IO.Stream requestStream, IMessage responseMsg, 
ITransportHeaders responseHeaders, System.IO.Stream responseStream)

Exception rethrown at [0]: 

in 0x00a63 System.Runtime.Remoting.Proxies.RealProxy:PrivateInvoke 
(System.Runtime.Remoting.Proxies.RealProxy rp, IMessage msg, System.Exception 
exc, System.Object[] out_args)


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Re: [opensuse] Package manager update tomorrow ...

2006-06-08 Thread Janne Karhunen
On Thursday 08 June 2006 19:23, Adrian Schröter wrote:

  finish and it begins updating all yast packages and finishes ok.
  Wohoo! rczmd restart - alt+f2 - zen-installer - getting install
  list - shows gazillion packages to be updated - click select all
  - install. After a while of resolving we're greeted with this:

 With zen-updater ?

Yep. Just stated yast online_update. On try one it crashed instantly
after clicking 'accept'. But hey, I think I saw this before, and at
that time second run helped. Let's try .. click accept. Yes, it did
help this time as well, and now its updating packages. It updated
3 packages .. hmm, i thought there were more on the list? Zen shows
gazillions of packages to be updated, and this updated just 3..


  Unresolved dependencies:
  Installing NetworkManager-devel-0.6.2-32.11.i586[SUSE-Linux-10.1-Updates]
  Can't install NetworkManager-devel-0.6.2-32.11.x86_64
  [SUSE-Linux-10.1-Updates], since NetworkManager-devel-0.6.2-32.11.i586
  [SUSE-Linux-10.1-Updates] is already marked as needing to be installed
  Marking this resolution attempt as invalid.

 That should not happen. Does the same happen when you also use the YaST
 Online Update module in the second run ?

No, yast seems to be 'ok'. Flaky, but it at least did something
after shaking.


  Unresolved dependencies:
  Installing netbeans-5.0-14.1.noarch[SUSE-Linux-10.1-Updates]
  Can't install patch:netbeans-1451-0.noarch[SUSE-Linux-10.1-Updates] since
  it is does not apply to this system.
  Can't install netbeans-5.0-14.1.noarch[20060608-183539], since
  netbeans-5.0-14.1.noarch[SUSE-Linux-10.1-Updates] is already marked as
  needing to be installed
  Marking this resolution attempt as invalid.

 I don't have the conflict with YaST Online Update. Can you check this also
 please ?

Check were? Notice the weird channel named with dates..


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[opensuse] hypermail to mbox converter (search for help again)

2006-06-08 Thread Henne Vogelsang
Hi,

I just noticed that i probably have to convert our old hypermail
archives for some lists to mbox format to be able to archive them with
the new system again.

There are several perl scripts out there to do that. Unfortunately none
of them works out of the box on our old hypermail layout. So i have to
hack them up to be able to convert the old archives. _But_ im knee-deep
in other things at the moment regarding the new list server. 

Now you come into play. This is the opportunity to help openSUSE project
to archive some important goal. I need someone to help me out with
fixing one of the scripts below or write something from scratch so
that we are able to convert old archives to the new format. 

Here is a gzipped tar archive with an old hypermail archive from
lists.suse.com:

http://lists4.opensuse.org/1997-Aug.tar.gz

Here are links to some hypermail to mbox scripts:

http://archive.ncsa.uiuc.edu/lists/mhonarc/oct98/msg00055.html 
http://www.tifaware.com/perl/hm2mbox/
http://www.bayesianinvestor.com/hypetombox.pl

It would be very cool if someone other than me could do that. If you
want to  help out, you need more information or anything else then
answer to this mail or contact me directly.

TIA!

Henne

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Re: [opensuse] Package manager update tomorrow ...

2006-06-08 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Thu, Jun 08, 2006 at 06:19:04PM +0200, Hartmut Meyer wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Am Donnerstag, 8. Juni 2006 17:52 schrieb Marcus Meissner:
 
  Please use only _one_ update source, either the test repo or the
  public repo.
 
 Sure. But my question was/is: if I deactivate a catalog in YaST2, shouldn't I 
 expect that this change is also honoured by rug?
 
 I reactivated the old update catalog (official) and deactivated the new 
 (test) 
 update catalog in yast2. But rug sl shows both of them as active.
 
 Bug or working as designed?

This is a bug, you need to remove it in yast the hard way, not just disable it.
I do not know if it is bugzillaed yet.


Once we release the update this switching around repos is not necessary. ;)

Ciao, Marcus

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Re: [opensuse] Package manager update tomorrow ...

2006-06-08 Thread jim tate

I'am new to Suse and I'm not familiar with setting up catolog in Yast2.
I'm trying to setup to update my x86_64 box, how do you add the below 
URL in yast

and the following headings,
Server Name:
Directory of Server:

Jim

ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/aj/10.1-packagemanagement-update-test/



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Re: [opensuse] Package manager update tomorrow ...

2006-06-08 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Thu, Jun 08, 2006 at 03:55:13PM -0400, jim tate wrote:
 I'am new to Suse and I'm not familiar with setting up catolog in Yast2.
 I'm trying to setup to update my x86_64 box, how do you add the below 
 URL in yast
 and the following headings,
 Server Name:
 Directory of Server:
 
 Jim
 
 ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/aj/10.1-packagemanagement-update-test/

In this case please do not test this Beta patch but wait for the official
release.

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Re: [opensuse] hypermail to mbox converter (search for help again)r

2006-06-08 Thread houghi
On Thu, Jun 08, 2006 at 07:09:52PM +0200, Henne Vogelsang wrote:
 Here is a gzipped tar archive with an old hypermail archive from
 lists.suse.com:
 
 http://lists4.opensuse.org/1997-Aug.tar.gz
 
 Here are links to some hypermail to mbox scripts:
 
 http://archive.ncsa.uiuc.edu/lists/mhonarc/oct98/msg00055.html 
 http://www.tifaware.com/perl/hm2mbox/
 http://www.bayesianinvestor.com/hypetombox.pl

After running ./hypetombox.pl -a -d 1997-Aug/ -m mbox.mbox all you need
to do is convert the following lines:
From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Bogus date
Date: 1 Aug 1997 00:00:56 +0200

to

From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Fri Aug 1 00:00:56 1997
Date: 1 Aug 1997 00:00:56 +0200

No idea how to do it, so if somebody beats me in time to do it (or finds
an other solution) please don't hesitate to give the solution.

What I will be working on is not so much a re-write of the script. because
I can't do perl, but a (very ugly) bash aproach to edit the dates,
although at this mment I have no idea how to do changes on a previous line
or how to get the say of the week.

sed -e s/Bogus date/Fri Jun  9 01:55:45 2006/g mbox.mbox  3.mbox
That seems to work at least, although it is the wrong dat (DUH). So proof
of concept is given.

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Re: [opensuse] Package manager update tomorrow ...

2006-06-08 Thread PatrickM
Adrian Schröter wrote:
 Hi,

 we will most likely do a first big package manager update tomorrow. The 
 update 
 does include a large number of bugfixes and some first performance 
 improvements.
  We will do for sure another update later, with further performance 
 optimizations and patch rpm support.

  You can test it already, when you add the following URL in the 
 YaST Installation Sources module and run the YaST Online Update module 
 afterwards:

   ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/aj/10.1-packagemanagement-update-test/

 The online update will only update the package manager at the first run. The 
 second run will apply all other patches.

 You should also temporary disable your existing update source in this module, 
 since we know that the current repository meta data is broken. This will be 
 fixed with this update tomorrow as well. All existing updates are in the test 
 repository as well.

 You can find a README inside the directory above with more details how to 
 test 
 this.

 Please give us any kind of feedback. We know that we are the package manager 
 is not yet yet perfect, but this update should improve the situation a lot :)

 bye
 adrian

   

Hi,

just tested the workflow. Here goes the feedback/work done. The PC used
was a P4, 2.4GHz, 512 RAM.
Tests began at around 23:40 UTC, finished around 01:00 UTC. This in the
case of you changing files during this timeframe.


(
Work in accordance to the README file at

ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/aj/10.1-packagemanagement-update-test/

)

As root:

1.

* start yast2 installation source via the yast2 control center or
  directly as yast2 inst_source.

  Add as additional software catalog:
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/aj/10.1-packagemanagement-update-test
  (or use one of the mirrors once they are updated)

  and then leave the module via Finish.  It will take some minutes
  to download data and setup the catalog.


Added catalog, with RefreshEnabled. Base catalog No RefreshDisabled.
Clicked Finish and hang for maybe 20mn. Had to kill the process.

Zen-updater was active. Anyhow, it detected 28 software updates.

(libzypp update was there, though)

So i shut zen-updater not to interfere.

Added again the catalog, and now, it took some time, but yast2
inst_source closed nicely, apart saying the catalog was already added.


2.

* start yast2 online update via the yast2 control center or directly
  as yast2 online_update.

  The patch summary should show a couple of patches and select only
  the libzypp update (with a black mark).  Press Accept to apply
  the update.  It will take some time to download packages and install
  them.

OK. just installed libzypp update.
Went fine after some time.

It installed the following updates:



Retrieving autoyast2-installation...OK
Installing ./rpm/noarch/autoyast2-installation-2.13.65-0.2.noarch.rpm:
YaST2 Automated Installation OK
Retrieving libzypp...OK
Installing ./rpm/i586/libzypp-1.1.0-1.11.i586.rpm: Package, Patch,
Pattern, and Product Management OK
Retrieving yast2-perl-bindings...OK
Installing ./rpm/i586/yast2-perl-bindings-2.13.4-17.1.i586.rpm: YaST2 -
Perl Bindings OK
Retrieving yast2-ncurses...OK
Installing ./rpm/i586/yast2-ncurses-2.13.36-1.2.i586.rpm: YaST2 -
Character Based User Interface OK
Retrieving autoyast2...OK
Installing ./rpm/noarch/autoyast2-2.13.65-0.2.noarch.rpm: YaST2
Automated Installation OK
Retrieving libzypp-zmd-backend...OK
Installing ./rpm/i586/libzypp-zmd-backend-7.1.1.0-42.21.i586.rpm: ZMD
backend for Package, Patch, Pattern, and Product Management OK
Retrieving yast2-pkg-bindings...OK
Installing ./rpm/i586/yast2-pkg-bindings-2.13.82-1.2.i586.rpm: YaST2
Package Manager Access OK
Retrieving yast2-qt...OK
Installing ./rpm/i586/yast2-qt-2.13.60-0.2.i586.rpm: YaST2 - Graphical
User Interface OK
Retrieving suseRegister...OK
Installing ./rpm/noarch/suseRegister-1.0-63.3.noarch.rpm: Registration
tool OK
Retrieving yast2...OK
Installing ./rpm/i586/yast2-2.13.61-0.2.i586.rpm: YaST2 - Main Package OK
Retrieving zmd...OK
Installing ./rpm/i586/zmd-7.1.1.0-39.15.i586.rpm: Novell ZENworks Linux
Management daemon OK
Retrieving zen-updater...OK
Installing ./rpm/i586/zen-updater-7.1.0-51.13.i586.rpm: Novell ZENworks
Linux Management daemon OK
Retrieving yast2-online-update...OK
Installing ./rpm/noarch/yast2-online-update-2.13.40-0.2.noarch.rpm:
YaST2 - Online Update (YOU) OK
Retrieving yast2-packager...OK
Installing ./rpm/i586/yast2-packager-2.13.125-0.2.i586.rpm: YaST2 -
Package Library OK
Retrieving yast2-installation...OK
Installing ./rpm/noarch/yast2-installation-2.13.119-1.2.noarch.rpm:
YaST2 - Installation Parts OK
Retrieving yast2-online-update-frontend...OK
Installing
./rpm/noarch/yast2-online-update-frontend-2.13.40-0.2.noarch.rpm: YaST2
- Online Update (YOU) OK
Installation finished.


OK till now.


3.

* You can now remove the software catalog you added in the first step.
  Use yast2 inst_source and delete the catalog.


Done.

But with an error message: Cannot stop 

Re: [opensuse] hypermail to mbox converter (search for help again)r

2006-06-08 Thread houghi
On Fri, Jun 09, 2006 at 02:26:00AM +0200, houghi wrote:
 On Thu, Jun 08, 2006 at 07:09:52PM +0200, Henne Vogelsang wrote:
  Here is a gzipped tar archive with an old hypermail archive from
  lists.suse.com:
  
  http://lists4.opensuse.org/1997-Aug.tar.gz
  
  Here are links to some hypermail to mbox scripts:
  
  http://archive.ncsa.uiuc.edu/lists/mhonarc/oct98/msg00055.html 
  http://www.tifaware.com/perl/hm2mbox/
  http://www.bayesianinvestor.com/hypetombox.pl
 
 After running ./hypetombox.pl -a -d 1997-Aug/ -m mbox.mbox all you need
 to do is convert the following lines:
 From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Bogus date
 Date: 1 Aug 1997 00:00:56 +0200
 
 to
 
 From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Fri Aug 1 00:00:56 1997
 Date: 1 Aug 1997 00:00:56 +0200
 
 No idea how to do it, so if somebody beats me in time to do it (or finds
 an other solution) please don't hesitate to give the solution.

OK, I have an extremely slow working script. What you can do are two
things.
1) edit ./hypetombox.pl and especialy the lines with $received in it.
This would be the best option. Unfortunatly I am unable to do it. I can
guess what things mean and it did not produce anythin workable. :-(

2) edit the *.html files and then especially the lines above.
I have something working, but it is sloow. It works, but slow. Two
directories a total of 1m41.389s
The script I have made also converts each directory to a $DIR.mbox file.

It is available at http://houghi.org/script/SUSEmail.sh

It should be enough info to change it into something fast.

houghi
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Re: [opensuse-wiki] What_skills_are_necessary

2006-06-08 Thread jdd

Lyle Greg Lisle wrote:

 However, I have a question.  The paragraph says See the top of this 
page how to contact us.  This is unclear, what at the top of the page,


in my mind, the how to find help part.



and who are us?


all of us :-)



  This leads to a related question.  Who's in charge here?


you could edit the page, so you (and me, and Houghi...) are 
in charge


  Who has the

authority to delete pages?  etc.


only sysop can delete page, but what do you mean by 
authority? any server admin can bring a server down be 
does hi have the authority to do so?


http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Deletion_Policy

trueth is, with the increasing size of the wiki we have to 
better organise it, the pflodo proposition of portals is 
to be seriously considered...


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