Re: [opensuse] Goodbye to suse
Tom Patton wrote: On Sun, 2006-12-24 at 16:18 +1100, Basil Chupin wrote: Tom Patton wrote: On Sun, 2006-12-24 at 14:36 +1100, Basil Chupin wrote: But... http://shop.novell.com/servlet/ControllerServlet?Action=DisplayPageEnv=BASELocale=en_USSiteID=novellid=ProductDetailsPageproductID=61098000 You mean that you still cannot get it even after ordering it from Novell? I started the thread pre-order shipping yet? ... as far as I and a couple others have determined, no one has received it yet in the states. Digital River emailed me that it is on backorder. I ordered on the 12th of Dec from the Novell site! DR gave me no estimate on arrival...:( I guess Santa's getting older and couldn't handle the load... But this is disgraceful! I would be suggesting getting in touch with some of the hacks on news sites like TheInquirer et alia and complaining about this non-availability of boxed 10.2. That should stir Novell into action. No wonder Novell became a non-entity some 12 years ago. Sheesh! Sorry, but this really grates me :-( . Cheers. -- In a period of great joy and pleasure you are comforted by the thought that tragedy is just around the corner. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] how to install usb external disk
On Sunday 24 December 2006 02:44, Basil Chupin wrote: Primm wrote: [pruned] Are you able to return the drive and get a different one? Mike Yes. That's what I've decided to do. Thanks to all for helping me come to this decision. Steve Let's get down to the basics :-) . What is the brand of the drive? Every manufacturer has on its site software which will check out/format/configure a new drive. Go to the manufacturer's site and download that software, put it on a floppy if need be, and test out the new HD. Then come back and us gurus here will decide what you should do with your new HD :-) . Cheers. There is only windows and mac software drivers available on both the cd and the zaapa site. It doesn't work with that software on a xp box so I've concluded that it must be a hardware fault. Cheers, Steve. My hardware supplier is open today :-) Steve. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] how to install usb external disk
On Sunday 24 December 2006 04:59, Mike McMullin wrote: On Sat, 2006-12-23 at 17:50 -0600, Darryl Gregorash wrote: On 2006-12-23 16:10, Primm wrote: On Saturday 23 December 2006 23:02, Mike Noble wrote: snip snip snip snip snip snip snip Good god, people, have we forgotten how to trim quotes? . Are you able to return the drive and get a different one? Mike Yes. That's what I've decided to do. Thanks to all for helping me come to this decision. Steve Have you actually ever tried to *partition* the drive? It is clearly unpartitioned. Forget about fdisk for this, use Yast: System/Partitioner. I quite agree, YaST2 would be my tool of choice. If it shows up there, then it's a workable proposition. It doesn't show up in Yast. cheers, Steve. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] how to install usb external disk
before going to your HW provider, try an other usb cable :-) I had a faulty calble recently :-) notice I had also two faulty usb drives :-( jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[opensuse] Sound from browsers stuck in a loop
Hi all, I'm using OpenSuse 10.1 and the sound system is set up correctly (Alsa SoundBlaster Live 5.1 card) cause everything plays alright. Quite often I've got this annoying problem with playing clips from the internet be it from Konqueror or Firefox. What happens is that the clip (audio or video) plays and then for no apparent reason about 1 second of the clip gets stuck in a loop and is repeated ad infinitum. The remedy is to kill the nspluginviewer when using Konqueror or to leave the site with Firefox. So you're never sure you can hear the clip in its entirety or not which is damn irritating. Let alone giving a demo about Linux and then having this thing happening. Has anyone witnessed this and better nows what's wrong? Thx, Guy. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Ganglia 3.0.3 RPM ?
cifroes wrote: Is there any rpm for opensuse 10.1 for ganglia 3.0.3? Or is there any easy way to install it? the rpm included is from a very old version of ganglia... http://repos.opensuse.org/home:/ganglia/ 10.1 directory is empty, but you should be able to use the src.rpm from e.g. SUSE_Factory/src and rebuild the rpms on your local system with rpmbuild --rebuild ganglia-monitor-core-3.0.3-23.6.src.rpm. This should result in five rpms: ganglia-monitor-core, ganglia-monitor-core-devel, ganglia-monitor-core-gmetad, ganglia-monitor-core-gmond, and ganglia-webfrontend which can then be installed as usual. Cheers, Th. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] usb external disk questions
Hi I have an external 250Mb usb disk. 10.2 X86_64 picks it up as /dev/sdc and mounts it under /media/disk. I just formatted sdc1 with reiser. I want to use the disk as backup to take off the premises. I want /home /srv and /var/lib/mysql backing up. My question is, if I write a script to rsync these three directories to /media/disk will the mount point _always_ be /media/disk when I plug it back in again? Or any other ideas? Cheers Steve -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] usb external disk questions
Primm a écrit : Hi I have an external 250Mb usb disk. 10.2 X86_64 picks it up as /dev/sdc and mounts it under /media/disk. I just formatted sdc1 with reiser. I want to use the disk as backup to take off the premises. I want /home /srv and /var/lib/mysql backing up. My question is, if I write a script to rsync these three directories to /media/disk will the mount point _always_ be /media/disk when I plug it back in again? Or any other ideas? Cheers Steve the better way is to name the partition (label), so that it's mounted in /media/name however, I don't remember exactly how to name it :-( jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/mediawiki/index.php/GPS_Lowrance_GO -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] automount cd
Hi list, I'm having problems automounting cd's and dvd's. Opensuse 10.2 Plextor 760SA, this is a sata dvd writer. I added the plextor after the os installation. I can mount manually, but when I insert a cd and click open in new window I get the following message: A security policy in place prevents this sender from sending this message to this recipient, see message bus configuration file (rejected message had interface org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume member Mount error name (unset) destination org.freedesktop.Hal) I've been looking around for a solution and while I find some related problems, I was unable to solve my problem. Can anyone here help me out? thx, p __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Sound from browsers stuck in a loop
Guy wrote: Hi all, I'm using OpenSuse 10.1 and the sound system is set up correctly (Alsa SoundBlaster Live 5.1 card) cause everything plays alright. Quite often I've got this annoying problem with playing clips from the internet be it from Konqueror or Firefox. What happens is that the clip (audio or video) plays and then for no apparent reason about 1 second of the clip gets stuck in a loop and is repeated ad infinitum. The remedy is to kill the nspluginviewer when using Konqueror or to leave the site with Firefox. So you're never sure you can hear the clip in its entirety or not which is damn irritating. Let alone giving a demo about Linux and then having this thing happening. Has anyone witnessed this and better nows what's wrong? Thx, Guy. Are you using the v9 beta of Shockwave Flash plugin for Firefox? This beta does this and I had to revert back to the released version (7) to get back my sanity. Cheers. -- In a period of great joy and pleasure you are comforted by the thought that tragedy is just around the corner. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] how to install usb external disk
Primm wrote: On Sunday 24 December 2006 02:44, Basil Chupin wrote: Primm wrote: [pruned] Are you able to return the drive and get a different one? Mike Yes. That's what I've decided to do. Thanks to all for helping me come to this decision. Steve Let's get down to the basics :-) . What is the brand of the drive? Every manufacturer has on its site software which will check out/format/configure a new drive. Go to the manufacturer's site and download that software, put it on a floppy if need be, and test out the new HD. Then come back and us gurus here will decide what you should do with your new HD :-) . Cheers. There is only windows and mac software drivers available on both the cd and the zaapa site. It doesn't work with that software on a xp box so I've concluded that it must be a hardware fault. The software you would download from the HD manufacturer and then either put on to a floppy or on to a CD makes the floppy or CD bootable and does not require an OS to be installed. But you would need an OS to be able to put the s/ware on the floppy or burn to a CD :-) . So what you are saying is that you got this disc manager from the HD manufacturer and it would not recognise the new drive you just bought? Cheers, Steve. My hardware supplier is open today :-) Well whose a lucky boy then? :-) . Tell us the outcome of this venture. (I always like to know the results for future reference.) Cheers. -- In a period of great joy and pleasure you are comforted by the thought that tragedy is just around the corner. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] SLE archives
* Darryl Gregorash [EMAIL PROTECTED] [12-24-06 00:40]: Hmm, midnight on a Saturday night, and Henne's at work, now *that* is dedication :-) Your midnight, not Henne's, but still. Merry Christmas Henne and all. And to all, a good... er Good Wishes. -- Patrick ShanahanRegistered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org@ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 OpenSUSE Linux http://en.opensuse.org/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] usb external disk questions
* jdd [EMAIL PROTECTED] [12-24-06 07:31]: the better way is to name the partition (label), so that it's mounted in /media/name however, I don't remember exactly how to name it :-( The YasT Partition Editor can do it.. -- Patrick ShanahanRegistered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org@ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 OpenSUSE Linux http://en.opensuse.org/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenSUSE 10.2 mirroring securtiy updates and smart channels
Dominik Zalewski wrote: Hi All, I have a office network with couple of workstations running OpenSUSE 10.2. Since they are all sharing same DSL link, I was wondering what is the best solution to mirror security updates and smart channels on our local server so they can use it instead of downloading updates and rpms from internet everytime they want to install something. How you solved this ? I will appreciate for all idea/tipstricks :) Would it not be possible to establish a proxy server aka SQUID? Routeoute all the machines through that. Then once a single machine downloads the update, it will be available locally for the rest. The only snafu is to stagger your update frequency. I have not done this so YMMV -- Using SuSE 9.2 Professional with KDE and Mozilla Mail 1.7.13 Linux user # 229959 at http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Can spam be defeated?
Steven T. Hatton wrote: It just keeps getting worse. I really don't want to change my email address, but it's all over the Internet, and the spammers are killing my inbox. I don't want to spend a lot of time on this issue, I just want to be able to block these idiots. I'm running a postfix mail server. Is there an easy was to thwart spam? I use the filters built into KMail, but they seem almost worthless. A possible solution/link I have is: Easy SPAM blocking with TMDA(Tagged Message Delivery Agent) http://ct.techrepublic.com.com/clicks?t=23033582-c55bc3b61974813922cfaaafffbee890-bfs=5fs=0 I have not visited it nor used it so YMMV As you already have postfix, why not incorporate a couple of anti spam tools as well. Hell then if the first one doesn't nail te spam , the ssecond one will, hopefully. :) -- Using SuSE 9.2 Professional with KDE and Mozilla Mail 1.7.13 Linux user # 229959 at http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] how to install usb external disk
So what you are saying is that you got this disc manager from the HD manufacturer and it would not recognise the new drive you just bought? Cheers, Steve. My hardware supplier is open today :-) Well whose a lucky boy then? :-) . Tell us the outcome of this venture. (I always like to know the results for future reference.) Cheers. I exchanged the disk having seen the other fail under their XP test box and made them show me the new one being recognised. I plugged it in to my 10.2 server and it worked without me having to do anything apart from destroy the ntfs it was filled with. I have other questions now in the 'usb external disk questions' thread. Thanks for your help and interest. Cheers, Steve. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] usb external disk questions
On Sunday 24 December 2006 14:15, Patrick Shanahan wrote: * jdd [EMAIL PROTECTED] [12-24-06 07:31]: the better way is to name the partition (label), so that it's mounted in /media/name however, I don't remember exactly how to name it :-( The YasT Partition Editor can do it. As it stands, /media/disk doesn't exist until I plug in the external disk. That is what yast chose as a mount point when I formatted it (it had ntfs to begin with). Is what you are saying to create a permanent directory called name under the /media directory? Confused. My main concern is that the mount point will always be the same every time I plug it in. In my case /media/disk Or will it change depending upon what else is plugged in? I need to write a script to rsync to it and so need to have a fixed mount point. Cheers, Steve. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] how to install usb external disk
Primm wrote: So what you are saying is that you got this disc manager from the HD manufacturer and it would not recognise the new drive you just bought? Cheers, Steve. My hardware supplier is open today :-) Well whose a lucky boy then? :-) . Tell us the outcome of this venture. (I always like to know the results for future reference.) Cheers. I exchanged the disk having seen the other fail under their XP test box and made them show me the new one being recognised. I plugged it in to my 10.2 server and it worked without me having to do anything apart from destroy the ntfs it was filled with. I have other questions now in the 'usb external disk questions' thread. Now this is most unusual to have a faulty HD for sale. Most unusual. If the new one is the same brand as the faulty one then I wouldn't put anything of value on this new one but use it for a month before putting any 'real' data on it -- I think you said you bought it for backup purposes. If an HD is going to fail it usually fails within a month. The worry here is that if the new one is the same brand as the failed on then it may be possible that both come from the same (bad) batch. May not be the case of course but I, personally, would play it safe and not use it for the backups - unless the backups are not that important if the HD fails and has to be replaced. Thanks for your help and interest. Thanks for letting me know about the outcome. Cheers. -- In a period of great joy and pleasure you are comforted by the thought that tragedy is just around the corner. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Sound from browsers stuck in a loop
Basil Chupin schreef: Guy wrote: Hi all, I'm using OpenSuse 10.1 and the sound system is set up correctly (Alsa SoundBlaster Live 5.1 card) cause everything plays alright. Quite often I've got this annoying problem with playing clips from the internet be it from Konqueror or Firefox. What happens is that the clip (audio or video) plays and then for no apparent reason about 1 second of the clip gets stuck in a loop and is repeated ad infinitum. The remedy is to kill the nspluginviewer when using Konqueror or to leave the site with Firefox. So you're never sure you can hear the clip in its entirety or not which is damn irritating. Let alone giving a demo about Linux and then having this thing happening. Has anyone witnessed this and better nows what's wrong? Thx, Guy. Are you using the v9 beta of Shockwave Flash plugin for Firefox? This beta does this and I had to revert back to the released version (7) to get back my sanity. Cheers. Hi Basil, You hit the nail on the head! My version is exactly : Shockwave Flash 9.0 d55. I suppose Shockwave is aware of this? Thx for making my Chistmass a little merrier! Merry Christmass, Guy. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] usb external disk questions
On Sun, 2006-12-24 at 14:39 +0100, Primm wrote: On Sunday 24 December 2006 14:15, Patrick Shanahan wrote: * jdd [EMAIL PROTECTED] [12-24-06 07:31]: the better way is to name the partition (label), so that it's mounted in /media/name however, I don't remember exactly how to name it :-( The YasT Partition Editor can do it. As it stands, /media/disk doesn't exist until I plug in the external disk. That is what yast chose as a mount point when I formatted it (it had ntfs to begin with). Is what you are saying to create a permanent directory called name under the /media directory? Confused. My main concern is that the mount point will always be the same every time I plug it in. In my case /media/disk Or will it change depending upon what else is plugged in? I need to write a script to rsync to it and so need to have a fixed mount point. Cheers, Steve. Start up YaST Partition er, high-lite the partition, click on edit, click on fstab options, select mount by Volume Name and supply a name and use a specific mount point. Save the changes and now when the partition is mounted it will always be mounted to the same mount. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] usb external disk questions
On Sun, 2006-12-24 at 14:39 +0100, Primm wrote: On Sunday 24 December 2006 14:15, Patrick Shanahan wrote: * jdd [EMAIL PROTECTED] [12-24-06 07:31]: the better way is to name the partition (label), so that it's mounted in /media/name however, I don't remember exactly how to name it :-( The YasT Partition Editor can do it. As it stands, /media/disk doesn't exist until I plug in the external disk. That is what yast chose as a mount point when I formatted it (it had ntfs to begin with). Is what you are saying to create a permanent directory called name under the /media directory? Confused. My main concern is that the mount point will always be the same every time I plug it in. In my case /media/disk Or will it change depending upon what else is plugged in? I need to write a script to rsync to it and so need to have a fixed mount point. Cheers, Steve. You may wish to set the label on the device http://linux.wordpress.com/2006/10/07/suse-automatically-mount-usb-hard-drives/ is a starting point. This is always mount the device the way you want it to be. You can also set the label using YaST. YaST | System | Partitioner. Here, edit the label and you should be good to go. I suggest you unmount remount the drive to be safe. Rich -- GPG/PGP Key Id: 1B257AEC from pgp.mit.edu Remember, all Windows machines are, by definition, fault tolerant. They run Windows don't they!! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] usb external disk questions
Primm wrote: On Sunday 24 December 2006 14:15, Patrick Shanahan wrote: * jdd [EMAIL PROTECTED] [12-24-06 07:31]: the better way is to name the partition (label), so that it's mounted in /media/name however, I don't remember exactly how to name it :-( The YasT Partition Editor can do it. As it stands, /media/disk doesn't exist until I plug in the external disk. That is what yast chose as a mount point when I formatted it (it had ntfs to begin with). Is what you are saying to create a permanent directory called name under the /media directory? Confused. My main concern is that the mount point will always be the same every time I plug it in. In my case /media/disk Or will it change depending upon what else is plugged in? I need to write a script to rsync to it and so need to have a fixed mount point. I have a setup which is along the lines that you are trying to create - except that I do not have a permanent mount point allocated to the external HD (but I do use it for backup purposes - it's a 200GB/16MB Maxtor). When you plugin and switch on the HD an entry is made in /etc/mtab file. Here for your info. is a copy of my mtab when I switched on my external which I have partitioned into 150GB ntfs and 50GB reiserfs and these show up at the bottom as sdb5 and sdb6:- dev/hda9 / ext3 rw,acl,user_xattr 0 0 proc /proc proc rw 0 0 sysfs /sys sysfs rw 0 0 debugfs /sys/kernel/debug debugfs rw 0 0 udev /dev tmpfs rw 0 0 devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,mode=0620,gid=5 0 0 /dev/hdc11 /data ext3 rw,acl,user_xattr 0 0 /dev/hda1 /windows/C ntfs ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev,gid=100,umask=0002,nls=utf8 0 0 /dev/hda5 /windows/D ntfs ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev,gid=100,umask=0002,nls=utf8 0 0 /dev/hda6 /windows/E ntfs ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev,gid=100,umask=0002,nls=utf8 0 0 /dev/hda7 /windows/F ntfs ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev,gid=100,umask=0002,nls=utf8 0 0 /dev/hda8 /windows/G ntfs ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev,gid=100,umask=0002,nls=utf8 0 0 /dev/hdc5 /windows/I ntfs ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev,gid=100,umask=0002,nls=utf8 0 0 /dev/hdc6 /windows/J ntfs ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev,gid=100,umask=0002,nls=utf8 0 0 /dev/hdc7 /windows/K ntfs ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev,gid=100,umask=0002,nls=utf8 0 0 /dev/hdc8 /windows/L vfat rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,gid=100,umask=0002,utf8=true 0 0 /dev/hdc9 /windows/M vfat rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,gid=100,umask=0002,utf8=true 0 0 /dev/hdc10 /windows/N vfat rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,gid=100,umask=0002,utf8=true 0 0 securityfs /sys/kernel/security securityfs rw 0 0 /dev/sdb5 /media/disk ntfs rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,uid=1000 0 0 /dev/sdb6 /media/disk-1 reiserfs rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime 0 0 Create in /etc/fstab the entry(ies) for your external HD with the info shown in mtab and then also create the actual DIRECTORY for this entry. For example, from the above I would create in /media a directory /disk and a directory /disk-1 so that when you switch on (or plug it into the USB port) the external HD it would get mounted to that directory (in my case to /media/disk and /media/disk-1). This help sort it out for you? Cheers. -- In a period of great joy and pleasure you are comforted by the thought that tragedy is just around the corner. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] usb external disk questions
Basil Chupin wrote: [pruned] When you plugin and switch on the HD an entry is made in /etc/mtab file. Here for your info. is a copy of my mtab when I switched on my external which I have partitioned into 150GB ntfs and 50GB reiserfs and these show up at the bottom as sdb5 and sdb6:- [pruned] /dev/sdb5 /media/disk ntfs rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,uid=1000 0 0 /dev/sdb6 /media/disk-1 reiserfs rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime 0 0 Create in /etc/fstab the entry(ies) for your external HD with the info shown in mtab and then also create the actual DIRECTORY for this entry. [pruned] I forgot to mention and clarify the presence of noatime in the 2 entries for the partitions of the external USB HD. I usually add this noatime to all the partition entries in fstab but this being a new install of 10.2 I forgot to do this. Reason why noatime is there is because every time a file is read a timestamp called atime (last access time) on that file is updated; this info is rarely used so to speed things up putting noatime stops this updating of the timestamp. Now, how did this get there when I don't have a permanent mount point for the USB HD? When you mount the USB go into My Computer and select Properties for the USB and then select Mounting tab. Here UNTICK both Synchronous and Access time updates - the latter results in having noatime showing in mtab above. Deselecting Synchronous will give you full throttle reading/writing to the the USB HD otherwise it will crawl along like a snail :-( . To see what happens read/write to the HD with Synchronous set and then deselect it. Cheers. -- In a period of great joy and pleasure you are comforted by the thought that tragedy is just around the corner. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] how to install usb external disk
On Sat, 2006-12-23 at 22:41 +0100, Primm wrote: On Saturday 23 December 2006 22:32, Leendert Meyer wrote: On Saturday 23 December 2006 21:02, Primm wrote: On Saturday 23 December 2006 20:40, Leendert Meyer wrote: On Saturday 23 December 2006 20:23, Primm wrote: When I plug it in nothing happens. Trying to mount /dev/sda gives: mount /dev/sda /mnt mount: No medium found This is like mounting a CDROM with no CD in it. Instead of sda, you should use dm-0 or dm-1. I get: mount /dev/dm-0 /mnt mount: /dev/dm-0: can't read superblock So the device exists. and: mount /dev/dm-1 /mnt mount: special device /dev/dm-1 does not exist _Not_? *** How about /var/log/messages? What appears there _right_after_ plugging in the device? It gives this: Dec 23 22:36:17 highheels2 kernel: usb 1-8: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 12 Dec 23 22:36:17 highheels2 kernel: usb 1-8: new device found, idVendor=067b, idProduct=2507 Dec 23 22:36:17 highheels2 kernel: usb 1-8: new device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 Dec 23 22:36:17 highheels2 kernel: usb 1-8: Product: Mass Storage Device Dec 23 22:36:17 highheels2 kernel: usb 1-8: Manufacturer: Prolific Technology Inc. Dec 23 22:36:17 highheels2 kernel: usb 1-8: SerialNumber: 0 Dec 23 22:36:17 highheels2 kernel: usb 1-8: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice Dec 23 22:36:17 highheels2 kernel: scsi6 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices Dec 23 22:36:17 highheels2 kernel: usb-storage: device found at 12 Dec 23 22:36:17 highheels2 kernel: usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning Dec 23 22:36:18 highheels2 kernel: Vendor: A´` ]¨ Model: Ǿʥ ã…y(±)÷5 ñ Rev: y Dec 23 22:36:18 highheels2 kernel: Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 00 Dec 23 22:36:18 highheels2 kernel: sde : very big device. try to use READ CAPACITY(16). Dec 23 22:36:18 highheels2 kernel: sde : READ CAPACITY(16) failed. Dec 23 22:36:18 highheels2 kernel: sde : status=0, message=00, host=5, driver=00 Dec 23 22:36:18 highheels2 kernel: sde : use 0x as device size Dec 23 22:36:18 highheels2 kernel: SCSI device sde: 4294967296 512-byte hdwr sectors (2199023 MB) Dec 23 22:36:18 highheels2 kernel: sde: Write Protect is off Dec 23 22:36:18 highheels2 kernel: sde: Mode Sense: 03 00 00 00 Dec 23 22:36:18 highheels2 kernel: sde: assuming drive cache: write through Dec 23 22:36:18 highheels2 kernel: sde : very big device. try to use READ CAPACITY(16). Dec 23 22:36:18 highheels2 kernel: sde : READ CAPACITY(16) failed. Dec 23 22:36:18 highheels2 kernel: sde : status=0, message=00, host=5, driver=00 Dec 23 22:36:18 highheels2 kernel: sde : use 0x as device size Dec 23 22:36:18 highheels2 kernel: SCSI device sde: 4294967296 512-byte hdwr sectors (2199023 MB) Dec 23 22:36:18 highheels2 kernel: sde: Write Protect is off Dec 23 22:36:18 highheels2 kernel: sde: Mode Sense: 03 00 00 00 Dec 23 22:36:18 highheels2 kernel: sde: assuming drive cache: write through Dec 23 22:36:18 highheels2 kernel: sde:6usb 1-8: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 12 Dec 23 22:36:18 highheels2 kernel: usb 1-8: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 12 Dec 23 22:36:19 highheels2 kernel: usb 1-8: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 12 Dec 23 22:36:19 highheels2 kernel: usb 1-8: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 12 Dec 23 22:36:19 highheels2 kernel: usb 1-8: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 12 Dec 23 22:36:19 highheels2 kernel: usb 1-8: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 12 Dec 23 22:36:19 highheels2 kernel: sd 6:0:0:0: SCSI error: return code = 0x0007 Dec 23 22:36:19 highheels2 kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev sde, sector 0 Dec 23 22:36:19 highheels2 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sde, logical block 0 Dec 23 22:36:20 highheels2 kernel: usb 1-8: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 12 Dec 23 22:36:20 highheels2 kernel: usb 1-8: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 12 Dec 23 22:36:20 highheels2 kernel: usb 1-8: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 12 Dec 23 22:36:20 highheels2 kernel: usb 1-8: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 12 Dec 23 22:36:21 highheels2 kernel: usb 1-8: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 12 Dec 23 22:36:21 highheels2 kernel: usb 1-8: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 12 Dec 23 22:36:21 highheels2 kernel: sd 6:0:0:0: SCSI error: return code = 0x0007 Dec 23 22:36:21 highheels2 kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev sde, sector 0 Dec 23 22:36:21 highheels2 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sde, logical block 0 Dec 23 22:36:21 highheels2 kernel: usb 1-8: reset high speed USB device using
Re: [opensuse] So long. Was:Goodbye to suse
On Saturday 23 December 2006 21:05, Michael S. Dunsavage wrote: On Sat, 2006-12-23 at 20:39 -0600, Rajko M. wrote: Package management in Linux leaves a lot to be desired, compared to Windows Add/Remove Program and Setup programs. Who has desire for the license fees? Yast did a nice job for me when I wanted fonts and other certain programs removed. Mike, leaving financial point and your sting for a moment, let me explain my experience. The packaging system like rpm or deb are in function and intentions similar to windows Add/Remove Program, but due to difference in operating system design and distribution, software vendor attempt to change libraries used by all programs will not pass unnoticed. That is big difference to windows and it is nothing to desire. Apparent simplicity for user of installation is not the only criteria that is used to evaluate software management. What happens during and after installation, as well removal is also important. Windows Add/Remove Program never warned me that one program is installing system wide library that should not be touched by anyone except operating system vendor, as other software vendors use published specifications to design their products. How many times programs left junk hanging around using system resources, because of sloppy defined unistall procedure. -- Regards, Rajko. http://en.opensuse.org/MiniSUSE http://en.opensuse.org/Portal -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Sound from browsers stuck in a loop
Guy wrote: Basil Chupin schreef: Guy wrote: Hi all, I'm using OpenSuse 10.1 and the sound system is set up correctly (Alsa SoundBlaster Live 5.1 card) cause everything plays alright. Quite often I've got this annoying problem with playing clips from the internet be it from Konqueror or Firefox. What happens is that the clip (audio or video) plays and then for no apparent reason about 1 second of the clip gets stuck in a loop and is repeated ad infinitum. The remedy is to kill the nspluginviewer when using Konqueror or to leave the site with Firefox. So you're never sure you can hear the clip in its entirety or not which is damn irritating. Let alone giving a demo about Linux and then having this thing happening. Has anyone witnessed this and better nows what's wrong? Thx, Guy. Are you using the v9 beta of Shockwave Flash plugin for Firefox? This beta does this and I had to revert back to the released version (7) to get back my sanity. Cheers. Hi Basil, You hit the nail on the head! My version is exactly : Shockwave Flash 9.0 d55. I suppose Shockwave is aware of this? I have absolutely no idea. I didn't tell them but I can't be the only one who experienced this problem so someone must have told them. As you may be aware, the beta gets rid of the problem with the audio and video being out of sync in v7. Well, v9 beta fixed that but created the loop effect. As I hardly ever watch videos online the out-of-sync problem doesn't worry me that much. Thx for making my Chistmass a little merrier! Merry Christmass, Guy. And the same to you! :-) Cheers. -- In a period of great joy and pleasure you are comforted by the thought that tragedy is just around the corner. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Goodbye to suse
On Sun, 2006-12-24 at 19:04 +1100, Basil Chupin wrote: Tom Patton wrote: On Sun, 2006-12-24 at 16:18 +1100, Basil Chupin wrote: Tom Patton wrote: On Sun, 2006-12-24 at 14:36 +1100, Basil Chupin wrote: But... http://shop.novell.com/servlet/ControllerServlet?Action=DisplayPageEnv=BASELocale=en_USSiteID=novellid=ProductDetailsPageproductID=61098000 You mean that you still cannot get it even after ordering it from Novell? I started the thread pre-order shipping yet? ... as far as I and a couple others have determined, no one has received it yet in the states. Digital River emailed me that it is on backorder. I ordered on the 12th of Dec from the Novell site! DR gave me no estimate on arrival...:( I guess Santa's getting older and couldn't handle the load... But this is disgraceful! I would be suggesting getting in touch with some of the hacks on news sites like TheInquirer et alia and complaining about this non-availability of boxed 10.2. That should stir Novell into action. No wonder Novell became a non-entity some 12 years ago. Sheesh! Sorry, but this really grates me :-( . Cheers. Well, I work for the mainstream Media, and things like this don't interest them. Unless, as I mused in the other thread, it is a delay tactic brought about by tne MS-Novell deal. I'll ask DigitalRiver if they have shipped ANY to the US, and resume the other thread. I built a Christmas gift with 9.3, so while this irritates me, it isn't a show stopper! Sorry if we diverted this thread any... -- Tom in NM SuSE 9.3/Evolution 7:58am up 13 days 18:40, 2 users, load average: 0.17, 0.12, 0.11 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] SLE archives
Darryl Gregorash wrote: On 2006-12-23 17:20, Henne Vogelsang wrote: Hi, On Saturday, December 23, 2006 at 11:05:59, Istvan Gabor wrote: PS: Nevertheless the opensuse archive should be fixed. (: Okay its nearly christmas so i did it ;) Hmm, midnight on a Saturday night, and Henne's at work, now *that* is dedication :-) Perhaps we now know Santa's secret identity. ;-) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] F-spot restrictions
On SuSe 10.2, Acer Laptop P4 3.0G I am trying to organise my photos in F-spot. I have just copied 17000 + photos from backup (PSU just went on my LAN server) to my laptop but when I try to import them into F-spot the progress bar shows them being imported but F-spot displays 500 photos only. Is this a normal restriction? TIA -- John K Masters - User #417400 in the Linux Counter http://counter.li.org/ No trees were killed in the creation of this message. However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] gnome menus in 9.3 and Nautilus
I wrote: I'd like to edit the Applications menu on my Suse 9.3 Gnome desktop but can't figure out how to do it. ... I looked through the Applications menu on the desktop but didn't find anything to edit the menu and I looked through YaST but only found the Gnome Control Center, which AFAIK doesn't let me edit menus. Do you know the name of the program you're thinking of so I could start it from the command line, or even check if it's installed? I don't even know whether these settings are system-wide or per-user (I'd hope the latter :) but so far I haven't found the appropriate config files in either /etc or my home directory. I've found some hints that Nautilus is used to edit the menus, which themselves seem to be part of gnome-panel. sadly, I don't normally use Nautilus (find and grep -r usually work well for me :) so I'm reduced to RTFM. I've found the GNOME 2.8 Desktop User Guide on my system (though it looks like gnome itself is 2.10). In Chapter 7 - Nautilus File Manager - there's a section called Navigating Your Computer with a topic Open special URI locations that appears promising. There's Table 7.7. Special URI Locations that lists likely looking options, but it doesn't work! For example, it lists fonts:/// and themes:/// and when I open those, I see the appropriate lists. But if I try to open the ones that seem relevant - applications:///, preferences:///, start-here:/// or system-settings:/// - Nautilus says things like: start-here:/// is not a valid location. Please check the spelling and try again. Does anybody more familiar with Nautilus know how to get around this? Or of some documentation that describes what is different between the version of Gnome shipped with SUSE 9.3 and the documentation that was supplied? Thanks, Dave -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Sound from browsers stuck in a loop
Basil Chupin schreef: Guy wrote: Basil Chupin schreef: Guy wrote: Hi all, I'm using OpenSuse 10.1 and the sound system is set up correctly (Alsa SoundBlaster Live 5.1 card) cause everything plays alright. Quite often I've got this annoying problem with playing clips from the internet be it from Konqueror or Firefox. What happens is that the clip (audio or video) plays and then for no apparent reason about 1 second of the clip gets stuck in a loop and is repeated ad infinitum. The remedy is to kill the nspluginviewer when using Konqueror or to leave the site with Firefox. So you're never sure you can hear the clip in its entirety or not which is damn irritating. Let alone giving a demo about Linux and then having this thing happening. Has anyone witnessed this and better nows what's wrong? Thx, Guy. Are you using the v9 beta of Shockwave Flash plugin for Firefox? This beta does this and I had to revert back to the released version (7) to get back my sanity. Cheers. Hi Basil, You hit the nail on the head! My version is exactly : Shockwave Flash 9.0 d55. I suppose Shockwave is aware of this? I have absolutely no idea. I didn't tell them but I can't be the only one who experienced this problem so someone must have told them. As you may be aware, the beta gets rid of the problem with the audio and video being out of sync in v7. Well, v9 beta fixed that but created the loop effect. As I hardly ever watch videos online the out-of-sync problem doesn't worry me that much. Thx for making my Chistmass a little merrier! Merry Christmass, Guy. And the same to you! :-) Cheers. One final addition : I went over to http://www.adobe.com/go/fp9_update_b2_installer_linuxplugin and saw they had a more recent version than mine available, nmly Shockwave Flash 9.0 d78 or 9.0.21.78 to be more precise. I've tried it and it seems to have solved the problem. So you can give it another try and fill in their bugform when you stumble upon one. There are sites like http://www.motogp.com where you won't get far with version 7 (pages cut). Bye, Guy. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] usb external disk questions
* Primm [EMAIL PROTECTED] [12-24-06 08:41]: As it stands, /media/disk doesn't exist until I plug in the external disk. That is what yast chose as a mount point when I formatted it (it had ntfs to begin with). Is what you are saying to create a permanent directory called name under the /media directory? Confused. My main concern is that the mount point will always be the same every time I plug it in. In my case /media/disk Or will it change depending upon what else is plugged in? I need to write a script to rsync to it and so need to have a fixed mount point. If you select 'Mount by Volume Name', it will always mount to the same point. -- Patrick ShanahanRegistered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org@ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 OpenSUSE Linux http://en.opensuse.org/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] how to install usb external disk
* Hans Witvliet [EMAIL PROTECTED] [12-24-06 09:43]: much quoting removed... Just skimming through the thread Firstly what does the tool lsusb tells you? I believe that there were several postings in this thread that you failed to quote. Would it be possible for you to include them the next time (for what-ever reason?)? -- Patrick ShanahanRegistered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org@ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 OpenSUSE Linux http://en.opensuse.org/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Sound from browsers stuck in a loop
Guy wrote: Basil Chupin schreef: Guy wrote: Basil Chupin schreef: Guy wrote: Hi all, I'm using OpenSuse 10.1 and the sound system is set up correctly (Alsa SoundBlaster Live 5.1 card) cause everything plays alright. Quite often I've got this annoying problem with playing clips from the internet be it from Konqueror or Firefox. What happens is that the clip (audio or video) plays and then for no apparent reason about 1 second of the clip gets stuck in a loop and is repeated ad infinitum. The remedy is to kill the nspluginviewer when using Konqueror or to leave the site with Firefox. So you're never sure you can hear the clip in its entirety or not which is damn irritating. Let alone giving a demo about Linux and then having this thing happening. Has anyone witnessed this and better nows what's wrong? Thx, Guy. Are you using the v9 beta of Shockwave Flash plugin for Firefox? This beta does this and I had to revert back to the released version (7) to get back my sanity. Cheers. Hi Basil, You hit the nail on the head! My version is exactly : Shockwave Flash 9.0 d55. I suppose Shockwave is aware of this? I have absolutely no idea. I didn't tell them but I can't be the only one who experienced this problem so someone must have told them. As you may be aware, the beta gets rid of the problem with the audio and video being out of sync in v7. Well, v9 beta fixed that but created the loop effect. As I hardly ever watch videos online the out-of-sync problem doesn't worry me that much. Thx for making my Chistmass a little merrier! Merry Christmass, Guy. And the same to you! :-) Cheers. One final addition : I went over to http://www.adobe.com/go/fp9_update_b2_installer_linuxplugin and saw they had a more recent version than mine available, nmly Shockwave Flash 9.0 d78 or 9.0.21.78 to be more precise. I've tried it and it seems to have solved the problem. So you can give it another try and fill in their bugform when you stumble upon one. There are sites like http://www.motogp.com where you won't get far with version 7 (pages cut). Bye, Guy. Many thanks for this. I've just downloaded this new version and will see how it behaves. Cheers. -- In a period of great joy and pleasure you are comforted by the thought that tragedy is just around the corner. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Goodbye to suse
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Sunday 2006-12-24 at 15:44 +1100, Basil Chupin wrote: ... And the solutions are what have always been. But as you are leaving, goodbye. Like the other poster you have come to the wrong conclusion about John's intentions :-) . :-? John was simply responding to an 'oldish' post which had Goodbye to suse as the subject. It isn't John's Subject - it's someone else's to which he (finally) decided to respond to. John has been stewing for a long time over his problems with getting the nVidia driver(s) to work and decided at last to let loose - but he is not leaving :-) . Ah, I see... He was answering to an email dated 13 Nov! That's over a month ago, I had that mail on another folder, so his mail appeared as the first one of new, broken thread. He missled me. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFFjqIOtTMYHG2NR9URAuT8AJwMM55oN7FiN+G88MZr5HcW/Gg84QCfawzD q6wM/VI5rDQssyxQKEBAeXo= =6bF2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Goodbye to suse
On Sat, 23 Dec 2006, John wrote: I made the mistake of upgrading to openSUSE 10.2 and now I'm regretting it big time. Mplayer was uninstalled by the upgrade, and none of my multimedia apps work cause of file format patents, from what I can tell by the big warning about patents on a Novell web page. I never saw or heard a peep out of Novell about patents before this Microsoft deal. I think Novell got shafted by Microsoft. Time will tell, especially if MS ends up acquiring Red Hat (heaven forbid the financial experts are wrong). Why in the heck did openSUSE 10.2 have to remove a perfectly functioning Mplayer and leave me with a broken Kaffeine (which worked great before) and broken Noatun and broken XMMS, etc. I can't play any video formats now or burn any CDs. This is really pitiful. Because you did not add the repo. It is your mistake. I did upgrades to 3 10.0 and 8 10.1 systems. All I had to do was have all the additional repos and everything was upgraded. I had downloaded everything from the ftp. So my install had the following. 198.60.105.2/local/suse/suse/i386/10.2/repo/oss 198.60.105.2/local/suse/suse/i386/10.2/repo/non-oss 198.60.105.2/local/suse/suse/i386/10.2/repo/src-oss 198.60.105.2/local/suse/suse/i386/10.2/repo/src-non-oss 198.60.105.2/local/suse/suse/i386/10.2/repo/packman 198.60.105.2/local/suse/suse/i386/10.2/repo/guru 198.60.105.2/local/suse/suse/i386/upgrade/10.2 You have to all all repo's you used like guru or packmam. The packman above was a ftp from packman.unixheads.com/pub/suse/10.2 You have to add all the repo's to get a complete upraded. You would need a similar to install fresh you 10.0 or 10.1. If you do not have all your installation sources then they may be deleted. I'm really disgusted with what this upgrade has done. And why so many file updating programs? There's Yast, Yum, Smart, openSUSE Update, Synaptic, and a few more I can't remember at the moment. How in the world is a Windows user ever gonna convert and deal with so many choices? The strangest thing of all is how the documentation compares Smart to Yast and Yum and shows how superior it is to both. Then why include Yast and Yum anymore? Just provide Smart package manager and be done with it. Package management in Linux leaves a lot to be desired, compared to Windows Add/Remove Program and Setup programs. Your own fault because you did not have all repo's needed. -- Boyd Gerber [EMAIL PROTECTED] ZENEZ 1042 East Fort Union #135, Midvale Utah 84047 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Goodbye to suse
On Sunday 24 December 2006 03:04, Basil Chupin wrote: I guess Santa's getting older and couldn't handle the load... But this is disgraceful! I would be suggesting getting in touch with some of the hacks on news sites like TheInquirer et alia and complaining about this non-availability of boxed 10.2. That should stir Novell into action. No wonder Novell became a non-entity some 12 years ago. Sheesh! Sorry, but this really grates me :-( . Yup... I ordered on the 12th too and have received nothing from DigitalRiver, email or otherwise other than an order acknowledge. In the time since the order, I have switched to Kubuntu and I doubt I will even use the package if/when it arrives. But long live Novell not -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Goodbye to suse
* Bruce Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] [12-24-06 11:07]: Yup... I ordered on the 12th too and have received nothing from DigitalRiver, email or otherwise other than an order acknowledge. In the time since the order, I have switched to Kubuntu and I doubt I will even use the package if/when it arrives. But long live Novell not If you feel that way, and apparently you do considering you have switched distros, LEAVE. Do not hang around here just to bash openSUSE, that is the definition of a troll and the function that you are filling! -- Patrick ShanahanRegistered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org@ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 OpenSUSE Linux http://en.opensuse.org/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] help
911 ? -- This computer is powered by OpenSuse 10.2 11:40am up 3 days 14:04, 2 users, load average: 0.94, 1.00, 0.80 kernel-2.6.18.2-34-default http://norwichlinuxusersgroup.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Goodbye to suse
On Sunday 24 December 2006 11:52, Patrick Shanahan wrote: * Bruce Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] [12-24-06 11:07]: Yup... I ordered on the 12th too and have received nothing from DigitalRiver, email or otherwise other than an order acknowledge. In the time since the order, I have switched to Kubuntu and I doubt I will even use the package if/when it arrives. But long live Novell not If you feel that way, and apparently you do considering you have switched distros, LEAVE. Do not hang around here just to bash openSUSE, that is the definition of a troll and the function that you are filling! As always.. You're a bundle of joy. Note well: 1) I will stay as longer as I like, not withstanding your well wishes. 2) I am still a supporter of Novell (as a purchaser) until such time as 10.3 comes out. (if it ever does) 3) This forum really *should* be open to anyone running linux or thinking of running linux as long as they don't troll or cause problems. I don't think my statement above comes even close to either condition. 4) I have still been contributing to this list in a constructive way answering problems people have with SuSE. (unlike your response above) 5) I am still running 10.1 on three machines in this household, so I have a perfect right to be here. 6) You're a snot!! Neener, Neener, Neener And go ahead and PLONK me please I don't wish to read any responses to my posts from you. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] usb external disk questions
On Sunday 24 December 2006 16:30, Patrick Shanahan wrote: * Primm [EMAIL PROTECTED] [12-24-06 08:41]: As it stands, /media/disk doesn't exist until I plug in the external disk. That is what yast chose as a mount point when I formatted it (it had ntfs to begin with). Is what you are saying to create a permanent directory called name under the /media directory? Confused. My main concern is that the mount point will always be the same every time I plug it in. In my case /media/disk Or will it change depending upon what else is plugged in? I need to write a script to rsync to it and so need to have a fixed mount point. If you select 'Mount by Volume Name', it will always mount to the same point. In that dialogue (10.2 X86_64) I have: Fstab options: Mount in /etc/fstab by: Device name Volume label UUID Device ID Device Path So I choose Volume label and give it a name in the Volume label dialogue. Is that correct? Thanks everyone for their patience. Cheers Steve. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] how to install usb external disk
On Sun, 2006-12-24 at 09:25 +0100, Primm wrote: On Sunday 24 December 2006 04:59, Mike McMullin wrote: On Sat, 2006-12-23 at 17:50 -0600, Darryl Gregorash wrote: On 2006-12-23 16:10, Primm wrote: On Saturday 23 December 2006 23:02, Mike Noble wrote: snip snip snip snip snip snip snip Good god, people, have we forgotten how to trim quotes? . Are you able to return the drive and get a different one? Mike Yes. That's what I've decided to do. Thanks to all for helping me come to this decision. Steve Have you actually ever tried to *partition* the drive? It is clearly unpartitioned. Forget about fdisk for this, use Yast: System/Partitioner. I quite agree, YaST2 would be my tool of choice. If it shows up there, then it's a workable proposition. It doesn't show up in Yast. Fortunately your hardware pusher is open today, and you can either get the exchange, or a fix on it. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] usb external disk questions
Primm wrote: Hi I have an external 250Mb usb disk. 10.2 X86_64 picks it up as /dev/sdc and mounts it under /media/disk. I just formatted sdc1 with reiser. I want to use the disk as backup to take off the premises. I want /home /srv and /var/lib/mysql backing up. My question is, if I write a script to rsync these three directories to /media/disk will the mount point _always_ be /media/disk when I plug it back in again? I've been doing something similar: I have a 200 GB external USB drive, which I formatted as reiser, and I do a nightly rsync of several filesystems with a cron job. Bottom line is that for a year or so now, it's always appeared as /media/usbdisk when automounted. Joe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Goodbye to suse
Hey, so I just joined into this convo and you know what, I am all for OpenSUSE. I am not sure what's up with Novell and Microsoft and how that will effect us, but I feel as if it'll help. Let's face it, there are a lot of things that don't work well with Linux especially in a corporate setting. I want to see Linux and Windows be able to work (of course, I'll use Linux). I am not an MS fan but I don't like the fact that my OpenOffice can't open the MS .docx yet. I also hate having to get third party software to make Linux and Windows servers and management work. As for your music, it's the same problem with Ubuntu. In Dapper and Edgy, you have to download extra xine codecs off of their multiverse repository. You can't just get mp3 support out of the box. I think there is something larger than Microsoft and Novell going on with these formats and patents. I don't think it's rational to get mad at Novell over our misfortunes. It's just a Linux thing, not a Novell thing. We all need to work together if we want to see Linux blow up onto the mainstream map. Once that happens, we'll see more Linux drivers and apps. On Sat Dec 23 19:26 , Darryl Gregorash sent: On 2006-12-23 19:14, John wrote: I'll tell you what this patent protection did for me. First off, you should be aware that a great deal of protected stuff has not been in SuSELinux, for quite some time. Your Mplayer was uninstalled because of legal reasons, and Novell/SuSE cannot do much about that, if they want to protect their asses and yours from some rather expensive lawsuits. The codec patents involved in Mplayer for the most part do not belong to Microsoft. The various patented formats, such as mp3, are owned by someone else. Therefore, nothing in the Novell/MS agreement can allow those codecs to be put into the distribution. I made the mistake of upgrading to openSUSE 10.2 and now I'm regretting it big time. Mplayer was uninstalled by the upgrade, and none of my So put in a link to a Packman mirror, and put it back. Is Linux desktop ready for prime time? I wish, but unfortunately, that's not the present situation. Well, you go talk to the boys that own the mp3 patents and tell them they should just give Novell the rights to distribute the codecs, without fee. I am sure they will listen. -- The best way to accelerate a computer running Windows is at 9.81 m/s² -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Gnome crashes after last yast security update (suse 10.1)
May I ask how you are trying to start Gnome? Carlos E. R. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 There are no errors; it just starts to load, then crashes (I use command line startx gnome -- to better see the output). Kde works fine. There are no errors in .X.err, not in any other log I can think of. Packages installed today were: 1166880855 Sat Dec 23 2006 Wed Dec 13 2006 kernel-source 2.6.16.27 0.6 1166881067 Sat Dec 23 2006 Sat Nov 25 2006 udev 085 30.16 1166881162 Sat Dec 23 2006 Wed Dec 20 2006 MozillaFirefox 1.5.0.9 0.2 1166881235 Sat Dec 23 2006 Mon Dec 11 2006 mono-core 1.1.13.8 2.15 1166898215 Sat Dec 23 2006 Wed Dec 13 2006 kernel-syms 2.6.16.27 0.6 1166898227 Sat Dec 23 2006 Sat Nov 25 2006 mkinitrd 1.2 106.25 1166898385 Sat Dec 23 2006 Wed Dec 20 2006 MozillaThunderbird 1.5.0.9 0.1 1166898439 Sat Dec 23 2006 Wed Dec 20 2006 MozillaFirefox-translations 1.5.0.9 0.2 1166898464 Sat Dec 23 2006 Mon Dec 11 2006 mono-data 1.1.13.8 2.15 1166898787 Sat Dec 23 2006 Wed Dec 13 2006 kernel-default 2.6.16.27 0.6 1166899095 Sat Dec 23 2006 Mon Dec 11 2006 mono-data-sqlite 1.1.13.8 2.15 1166899117 Sat Dec 23 2006 Mon Dec 11 2006 mono-web 1.1.13.8 2.15 1166899205 Sat Dec 23 2006 Sat Oct 21 2006 x11-video-nvidia 1.0.8776 1 1166901329 Sat Dec 23 2006 Fri Oct 20 2006 nvidia-gfx-kmp-default 1.0.8776_2.6.1 (I'm using the open nv driver today) I tried on a user that had never used gnome before, and it crashed as well; .X.err contains this: xauth: creating new authority file /home/p2phelper/.serverauth.9931 X Window System Version 6.9.0 Release Date: 21 December 2005 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.9 Build Operating System: SuSE Linux [ELF] SuSE Current Operating System: Linux nimrodel 2.6.16.27-0.6-default #1 Wed Dec 13 09:34:50 UTC 2006 i686 Build Date: 13 September 2006 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.X.Org to make sure that you have the latest version. Module Loader present Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.1.log, Time: Sat Dec 23 21:39:34 2006 (==) Using config file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports: Warning: Type ONE_LEVEL has 1 levels, but RALT has 2 symbols Ignoring extra symbols Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/kwintv, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID, removing from list! /etc/X11/xim: Checking wether an input method should be started. INPUT_METHOD is not set or empty (no user selected input method). Trying to start a default input method for the locale [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... Checking for a default input method in /etc/X11/xim.d/es/ sourcing /etc/X11/xim.d/es/50-scim ... Launching a SCIM daemon with Socket FrontEnd... Loading simple Config module ... Creating backend ... Loading socket FrontEnd module ... Starting SCIM as daemon ... Launching a SCIM process with x11... Loading socket Config module ... Creating backend ... Loading x11 FrontEnd module ... GTK Panel of SCIM 1.4.4 Starting SCIM as daemon ... SCIM has been successfully launched. Smart Common Input Method 1.4.4 /etc/X11/xim.d/es/50-scim started sucessfully waiting for X server to shut down FreeFontPath: FPE /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing. Previously, I noticed that it complained of no speedo module, so I dissabled it from the config. Enabling it I see: (EE) Failed to load module speedo (module does not exist, 0) Otherwise, it crashes the same way as above. But I don't think it is a X error, as kde works fine. ¿Ideas? - -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFFjZdmtTMYHG2NR9URAqtYAKCEd7locHpaw5yTuZOC+QGufqoX+ACeP7q5 bpwxn8tF4Z6Sx+m6Avst8d4= =8yKM -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- --Moby They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -- Benjamin Franklin First they came for the
Re: [opensuse] Upgrade experiences 10.0 - 10.2 ?
Karl Agee wrote: --- Verner Kjærsgaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lørdag 23 december 2006 19:16 skrev Karl Agee: I've seen only a few posts on successful upgrades from 10.0 to opensuse 10.2, anyone have any further experiences/words of wisdom before I take the plunge? Yes, I do have a complete backup made in case it goes foobar. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Hi, I just went ahead and did it a couple of days ago. In fact, I did NOT upgrade my DELL laptop (M90 Precision), I just installed it over SuSE10 - but WITHOUT formatting my /home partition. It worked flawlessly well. I then re-installed, either from old downloads or new ones, a few of my very much used programmes, i.e. zend, datafold and others. The only hitch I had was smbmount not being there. This list advised me to use cifs instead to mount my VPN remote samba shares. That worked perfectly fine too. YMMV though :-) -- -- Med venlig hilsen/Best regards Verner Kjærsgaard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The upgrade went extremely_smoothly! Better than anything from Microsoft. It did delete some programs I had installed myself like ncftp client but re-installing those was trival. Also, had to reinstall mplayer and update w32codecs so I could play mp3's. Looking good so far. Smart-gui isnt working well so I'm just using yast to install software from sources. No problems there. --Karl __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com So far I have updated two machines from 10.1 to 10.2. Everything worked pretty much flawlessly, except I had to perform the upgrade in text mode. The only big headache I had was getting a set of repositories together for the packages I use for 10.2 - now that that is done, using smart works great, and I have been able to upgrade everything I use. -- --Moby They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] open xchange and opensuse 10.2
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Re: [opensuse] OpenSUSE 10.2 Laptop runs hot after resume
On 12/23/06, Randall R Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 23 December 2006 00:27, Andre Truter wrote: ... A third idea, have a look at the values under /proc/acpi/processor/ before and after. Looks the same before and after. All files are empty. Are those files actually empty, or is it just that you're looking at the file size reported by ls -l? Because the zero size reported by ls is not true for many of the introspective files in /proc. Ah, yes, you are correct. I checked it again and the processor stuff is the same, but I did notice that the fan stuff differ. /proc/acpi/fan/C260/state differ. Before a Hibernate, it says : status : on After the Hibernate, it says: status: off So, it seams that the fan stays off after a hibernate. I tried to reload the powernow_k8 module, but nothing changes. -- Andre Truter | Software Consultant | Registered Linux user #185282 Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.trusoft.co.za ~ A dinosaur is a salamander designed to Mil Spec ~ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Goodbye to suse
Ah, I see... He was answering to an email dated 13 Nov! That's over a month ago, I had that mail on another folder, so his mail appeared as the first one of new, broken thread. He missled me. I guess it was to difficult to change the topic and make a new post -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Goodbye to suse
On Sun, 2006-12-24 at 10:49 -0800, Jay Smith wrote: As for your music, it's the same problem with Ubuntu. In Dapper and Edgy, you have to download extra xine codecs off of their multiverse repository. You can't just get mp3 support out of the box. I think there is something larger than Microsoft and Novell going on with these formats and patents. I don't think it's rational to get mad at Novell over our misfortunes. It's just a Linux thing, not a Novell thing. I could be wrong, but I thought this had to do with copyright infringement of unlicensed music? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] KsCD stopping.
I've installed SUSE 10.2 on a couple of computers, one 64 bit, the other 32. One thing I've noticed is that when a CD is played, KsCD will start, play a couple of songs and then suddenly stop part way through one song. Then, after resuming playing, it will work perfectly, including repeating the same CD, until a new CD is inserted, which will then also fail. This problem occurs on both computers. One a 64 bit desktop and the other a 32 bit ThinkPad. I've never seen this behaviour before. Any ideas tnx jk -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] how to install usb external disk
On Sunday 24 December 2006 14:44, Basil Chupin wrote: Primm wrote: So what you are saying is that you got this disc manager from the HD manufacturer and it would not recognise the new drive you just bought? Cheers, Steve. My hardware supplier is open today :-) Well whose a lucky boy then? :-) . Tell us the outcome of this venture. (I always like to know the results for future reference.) Cheers. I exchanged the disk having seen the other fail under their XP test box and made them show me the new one being recognised. I plugged it in to my 10.2 server and it worked without me having to do anything apart from destroy the ntfs it was filled with. I have other questions now in the 'usb external disk questions' thread. Now this is most unusual to have a faulty HD for sale. Most unusual. If the new one is the same brand as the faulty one then I wouldn't put anything of value on this new one but use it for a month before putting any 'real' data on it -- I think you said you bought it for backup purposes. If an HD is going to fail it usually fails within a month. The worry here is that if the new one is the same brand as the failed on then it may be possible that both come from the same (bad) batch. May not be the case of course but I, personally, would play it safe and not use it for the backups - unless the backups are not that important if the HD fails and has to be replaced. Thanks for your help and interest. Thanks for letting me know about the outcome. Cheers. No problem. That's good advice. I shall keep up my (now laborious) backups of my server to DVD media and a little used client on the lan meanwhile going. The disk itself shows as a Samsung which I believe to be quite reliable. The main reason for this is the time consuming nature of tar'ring 12 or so GB of data to dvd and being able to remove it easily from the premises. Cheers, Steve. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Goodbye to suse
Michael S. Dunsavage wrote: On Sun, 2006-12-24 at 10:49 -0800, Jay Smith wrote: As for your music, it's the same problem with Ubuntu. In Dapper and Edgy, you have to download extra xine codecs off of their multiverse repository. You can't just get mp3 support out of the box. I think there is something larger than Microsoft and Novell going on with these formats and patents. I don't think it's rational to get mad at Novell over our misfortunes. It's just a Linux thing, not a Novell thing. I could be wrong, but I thought this had to do with copyright infringement of unlicensed music? Not all MP3's involve copyright infringement. There are plenty of legal ones to play. Also as was previously ruled in a court (Betamax case?), as long as there is legitimate use for a device, it cannot be banned just because someone might use it illegally. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] rsync syntax
Hi All,
I need to start synchronizing a 'live' website, nightly, with the 'master'
copy residing under ~/public_html/ on my local box.
I have user account level ssh access to the server and, when I log in, it
'lands' me at /home/user/ ('~/'), directly above the 'live' website directory
at ~/public_html/ (is symlinked to ~/www/).
I'm sure there are many people on this list who know how to do this. I *sort
of* know since I use rsync locally on a daily basis. However, the 'live' site
lives on a production box and just don't feel like experimenting. :-) Any
recommendations/advice on the correct syntax to use with rsync?
TIA regards,
Carl
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Re: [opensuse] help
911 ? Nope, he's in Belgium... it's 112. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] rsync syntax
I need to start synchronizing a 'live' website, nightly, with the 'master'
copy residing under ~/public_html/ on my local box.
I have user account level ssh access to the server and, when I log in, it
'lands' me at /home/user/ ('~/'), directly above the 'live' website directory
at ~/public_html/ (is symlinked to ~/www/).
I'm sure there are many people on this list who know how to do this. I *sort
of* know since I use rsync locally on a daily basis. However, the 'live' site
lives on a production box and just don't feel like experimenting. :-) Any
recommendations/advice on the correct syntax to use with rsync?
What, care to read its manpage?
-PHSav is a good thing, the rest is up to you! cron is your friend, and
pay attention to rsync directory syntax (you want `rsync -PHSav
~/public_stuff/ master:~/www/`, with trailing slashes)
-`J'
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Re: [opensuse] Gnome crashes after last yast security update (suse 10.1) [works now]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2006-12-23 at 21:53 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote: There are no errors; it just starts to load, then crashes (I use command line startx gnome -- to better see the output). Kde works fine. There are no errors in .X.err, not in any other log I can think of. It works now. Needed incantations: Uninstall many packages installed recently, reinstall some, downgrade others. Dance around Tux. Whatever. Remove tmp directory contents. Start gnome as root; if it works, try as user. Reinstall everything. Keep fingers crossed. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFFjuk+tTMYHG2NR9URAsbpAJ4kuEMQx80jExZyVRYhMVMiIFZE0wCgiItR WyNgJK39C+pJxM//IOqFLzE= =/EJc -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Zenupdater + Yast issue
I am having a problem with zenupdater. After I installed opensuse 10.2, I poked around a bit incl reading the docs on the wiki about the new package management system. I added a bunch of sources to yast installation sources, and they all showed up in the zenupdater config window. Groovy. Its showed something 77 updates, including security updates and kde updates. I didnt run the updates last night. When I rebooted this morning zen updater now shows no updates available and only 3 of the sources I added yesterday in the config window. I have a total of 12 sources added in Yast Installation Sources. I thought Yast and zen updater were reading from the same databaseam I wrong??? How to correct this difference??? --Karl __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] ZMD questions
1) what system services need to be running for zmd to work, besides zmd itself? I did shut down some nfs services, now finding zmd wont work with some of them. Which ones need to be enabled? 2) What is zmd reading out_there on the internet? is it reading some grand master server somewhere 3) I've read the docs on the opensuse wiki about zmd, is there anything else that explains how this all works? --Karl __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] rsync syntax
On Sunday 24 December 2006 15:53, Jan Engelhardt wrote: What, care to read its manpage? I have, but you know how cryptically they're written! -PHSav is a good thing, the rest is up to you! cron is your friend, and pay attention to rsync directory syntax (you want `rsync -PHSav ~/public_stuff/ master:~/www/`, with trailing slashes) I'm okay with the flags and slashes part, already. How do I pass it the remote username, host IP/domain and pw to have it open an ssh2 connection? Thanks! Carl -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Goodbye to suse
On Saturday 23 December 2006 17:14, John wrote: I'll tell you what this patent protection did for me. I had a nearly fully functioning SUSE 10.0 system. I never could get the nVidia driver to install and work for 3D video, although it worked fine in SUSE 9.2 Professional. Sounds like a personal problem to mePEBCEK anyone? I made the mistake of upgrading to openSUSE 10.2 and now I'm regretting it big time. Mplayer was uninstalled by the upgrade, and none of my multimedia apps work cause of file format patents, from what I can tell by the big warning about patents on a Novell web page. I never saw or heard a peep out of Novell about patents before this Microsoft deal. I think Novell got shafted by Microsoft. Time will tell, especially if MS ends up acquiring Red Hat (heaven forbid the financial experts are wrong). Sigh, another crossover loser from COLA... ...though I agree that Novell should show some cajones and provide multimedia in their system like Xandros does, it really isn't a big deal. I mean, take a stock verson of WinXP or Vista and see what happens when you stick a commercial Region 1 DVD in. insert Jepardy music here As anyone can tell you, getting popular codes to play multimedia takes about five minutes of your time. http://www.perfectreign.com/stuff/suse/desk_dvd_lg.jpg http://www.perfectreign.com/stuff/suse/desktop+mp3.jpg http://www.perfectreign.com/stuff/suse/2006/happyfeet1.jpg This has been true of any version since I started using SUSE during 9.1 days. Why in the heck did openSUSE 10.2 have to remove a perfectly functioning Mplayer and leave me with a broken Kaffeine (which worked great before) and broken Noatun and broken XMMS, etc. I can't play any video formats now or burn any CDs. This is really pitiful. Again, PEBCEK - you screwed up. Too bad... ..so sorry. I'm really disgusted with what this upgrade has done. And why so many file updating programs? There's Yast, Yum, Smart, openSUSE Update, Synaptic, and a few more I can't remember at the moment. How in the world is a Windows user ever gonna convert and deal with so many choices? I did. My mom did. My wife is in the process. Not too hard. The strangest thing of all is how the documentation compares Smart to Yast and Yum and shows how superior it is to both. Then why include Yast and Yum anymore? Just provide Smart package manager and be done with it. Package management in Linux leaves a lot to be desired, compared to Windows Add/Remove Program and Setup programs. Linux = choices. Hey, some people even like the command line - or worse - Gnome. What can I say? Is Windows ready for prime time? I wish, but unfortunately, that's not the present situation. fixx0red your post. -- kai www.perfectreign.com || www.4thedadz.com a turn signal is a statement, not a request -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] rsync syntax
On Sunday 24 December 2006 15:53, Jan Engelhardt wrote: What, care to read its manpage? I have, but you know how cryptically they're written! Can't be worse than pure EBNF. -PHSav is a good thing, the rest is up to you! cron is your friend, and pay attention to rsync directory syntax (you want `rsync -PHSav ~/public_stuff/ master:~/www/`, with trailing slashes) I'm okay with the flags and slashes part, already. How do I pass it the remote username, host IP/domain and pw to have it open an ssh2 connection? rsync ~/mine/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/their/ soo simple :) -`J' -- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] help
911 ? Nope, he's in Belgium... it's 112. Only if your box is on fire or has dire medical need. Use 110 otherwise. At least, for Germany. However, given that the thread start mail indicates the subject is helpless and might get lost in the Dangers Of The Internet, I recommend calling 116116 to lock accounts for safety before using The Internet. -`J' -- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] rsync syntax
On Sunday 24 December 2006 12:23, Carl Hartung wrote:
Hi All,
I need to start synchronizing a 'live' website, nightly, with the 'master'
copy residing under ~/public_html/ on my local box.
I have user account level ssh access to the server and, when I log in, it
'lands' me at /home/user/ ('~/'), directly above the 'live' website
directory at ~/public_html/ (is symlinked to ~/www/).
rsync -a -e ssh --delete path to ~/public/ remote machine:/home/user/www
HTH
Mike
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Re: [opensuse] rsync syntax
On Sunday 24 December 2006 13:53, Mike Noble wrote:
On Sunday 24 December 2006 12:23, Carl Hartung wrote:
Hi All,
I need to start synchronizing a 'live' website, nightly, with the
'master' copy residing under ~/public_html/ on my local box.
I have user account level ssh access to the server and, when I log in, it
'lands' me at /home/user/ ('~/'), directly above the 'live' website
directory at ~/public_html/ (is symlinked to ~/www/).
rsync -a -e ssh --delete path to ~/public/ remote
machine:/home/user/www
HTH
Mike
One more thing on this is ssh will require you to enter your passwd. This
does not work with trying to automate (running from cron). To fix this
on the local machine (machine sync'ing from) you want to setup ssh
keys, this can be don with the following command:
ssh-keygen -t dsa
(just enter return for all questions)
Now you want to copy the id_dsa.pub key to the remote machine.
cd ~/.ssh
scp id_dsa.pub remote machine:/home/user/.ssh
ssh into the remote machine
cd .ssh
cat id_dsa.pub authorized_keys
(NOTE: make sure the home directory does not allow other write
permission (best to prevent group as well) or ssh will see this as
a security issue and will not work).
Now if you exit out, and if you ssh into the remote machine again you
will not be asked for a password.
Mike
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Re: [opensuse] Goodbye to suse
On Sun, 2006-12-24 at 14:35 -0500, James Knott wrote: Michael S. Dunsavage wrote: On Sun, 2006-12-24 at 10:49 -0800, Jay Smith wrote: As for your music, it's the same problem with Ubuntu. In Dapper and Edgy, you have to download extra xine codecs off of their multiverse repository. You can't just get mp3 support out of the box. I think there is something larger than Microsoft and Novell going on with these formats and patents. I don't think it's rational to get mad at Novell over our misfortunes. It's just a Linux thing, not a Novell thing. I could be wrong, but I thought this had to do with copyright infringement of unlicensed music? Not all MP3's involve copyright infringement. There are plenty of legal ones to play. Also as was previously ruled in a court (Betamax case?), as long as there is legitimate use for a device, it cannot be banned just because someone might use it illegally. I understand that. However, I was under the impression that's why mp3's don't play out-of-box. Even though it's no big deal, I just had to update xine and amarok played no problem. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 2 Problems with Cups suse 10.2 [FIXED]
On Sunday 24 December 2006 19:05, James Rome wrote: I am having the same problem, and think I have updated everything. It is still doing this. Any ideas? It seems like I spoke too soon. Today, I restarted my machine and the problem was back. Currently running with cupsd : ALL in hosts.allow in order to print even from the host machine. Problem: With hosts.deny and hosts.allow activated cups refuses to print. Help welcomed!!! Thanks Eddie -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Zenupdater + Yast issue
On Sunday 24 December 2006 21:06, Karl Agee wrote: When I rebooted this morning zen updater now shows no updates available and only 3 of the sources I added yesterday in the config window. I have a total of 12 sources added in Yast Installation Sources. I thought Yast and zen updater were reading from the same databaseam I wrong??? How to correct this difference??? --Karl I wish I knew. I was under the same impression as you about reading from the same database. The updater applet never seems to match YaST with regard to pending updates. I only trust YaST now especially after the 10.1 debacle I think a bit more work is needed for the Updater applet. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] new disks devices
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2006-12-23 at 20:03 +0100, jdd wrote: We begin to see strange devices for disk access, beside the usual /dev/hd or /dev/sd, like /dev/dm- or /dev/usb(...). How about tree /dev/disk/? /dev/disk/ |-- by-id |-- by-label |-- by-path `-- by-uuid Do you know of any doc giving a survey of this new feature without searching the kernel source? Would be nice. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFFjweNtTMYHG2NR9URArbfAJ44Vj45vpWOIow3sq+UE6OEx5HC/wCfVEOC NrdY598kitfMnDGTpPVu3qg= =Sz1D -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Goodbye to suse
On Sunday 24 December 2006 14:05, Michael S. Dunsavage wrote: On Sun, 2006-12-24 at 14:35 -0500, James Knott wrote: Michael S. Dunsavage wrote: On Sun, 2006-12-24 at 10:49 -0800, Jay Smith wrote: ... I could be wrong, but I thought this had to do with copyright infringement of unlicensed music? Not all MP3's involve copyright infringement. There are plenty of legal ones to play. Also as was previously ruled in a court (Betamax case?), as long as there is legitimate use for a device, it cannot be banned just because someone might use it illegally. I understand that. However, I was under the impression that's why mp3's don't play out-of-box. Even though it's no big deal, I just had to update xine and amarok played no problem. You have to distinguish commercial material (commercially published music, e.g.) from the proprietary (patented) technology used to encode and decode it. In this case, the reason Novell does not include any MP3 software is that the patent holder, Thomson Consumer Electronics, requires a royalty for any implementation of MP3 codecs, even independently written ones (possible because the IP takes the form of a patent, not a mere copyright on a specific implementation). Presumably the royalty structures available are too costly for Novell to absorb. Furthermore, it would probably require Novell to know how many copies are distributed, and that's extremely difficult when the distribution that would contain it is freely (re-)distributable. The only way it could work contractually would be a bulk / blanket license, because anything unit-based would be impossible to account. IP licensed with unit-based royalties and freely distributable software don't seem to mix very well... And make no mistake, the MP3 software on Macintoshes, Windows and hardware players is not free, it's cost is part of the license fee for using those operating systems. So, if you don't respect Thomson's patent, you can easily acquire implementations of the MP3 encoding and decoding software and use them to play or record MP3 audio files and streams. If you do respect the patent, then you should stick to using commercial MP3 hardware and software. Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenSUSE 10.2 Laptop runs hot after resume
On Sunday 24 December 2006 10:22, Andre Truter wrote: On 12/23/06, Randall R Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 23 December 2006 00:27, Andre Truter wrote: ... A third idea, have a look at the values under /proc/acpi/processor/ before and after. Looks the same before and after. All files are empty. Are those files actually empty, or is it just that you're looking at the file size reported by ls -l? Because the zero size reported by ls is not true for many of the introspective files in /proc. Ah, yes, you are correct. I checked it again and the processor stuff is the same, but I did notice that the fan stuff differ. /proc/acpi/fan/C260/state differ. Before a Hibernate, it says : status : on After the Hibernate, it says: status: off Very dangerous. You should did thru the hibernate settings to see if you can find something relating to these. In the mean time, you can create a script which you can run as root, or periodically via cron: echo on /proc/acpi/fan/C260/state -- _ John Andersen pgpkQm4jsvGkO.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] KsCD stopping.
On Sunday 24 December 2006 10:29, James Knott wrote: I've installed SUSE 10.2 on a couple of computers, one 64 bit, the other 32. One thing I've noticed is that when a CD is played, KsCD will start, play a couple of songs and then suddenly stop part way through one song. Then, after resuming playing, it will work perfectly, including repeating the same CD, until a new CD is inserted, which will then also fail. This problem occurs on both computers. One a 64 bit desktop and the other a 32 bit ThinkPad. I've never seen this behaviour before. I've seen this occasionally too. And I dont use KsCD. So it might be a good Idea for you to test some other players and see if the problem persists. Maybe realplayer, amarok etc. Perhaps it is part of the automount system getting involved after a while, dismounting the drive or some such. -- _ John Andersen pgpEJ9rxlv0Z9.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] Goodbye to suse
On Sunday 24 December 2006 08:13, Bruce Marshall wrote: On Sunday 24 December 2006 11:52, Patrick Shanahan wrote: * Bruce Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] [12-24-06 11:07]: Yup... I ordered on the 12th too and have received nothing from DigitalRiver, email or otherwise other than an order acknowledge. In the time since the order, I have switched to Kubuntu and I doubt I will even use the package if/when it arrives. But long live Novell not If you feel that way, and apparently you do considering you have switched distros, LEAVE. Do not hang around here just to bash openSUSE, that is the definition of a troll and the function that you are filling! As always.. You're a bundle of joy. To get all the intentionally crippled packages in Ubuntu (or Kubuntu) requires you to add repositories as well. I've found this site on kde-apps.org quite usefull. It has a single script that adds the necessary repositories and then upgrades kubuntu so that it: Adds folders to keep you organized, Gives you what you need to do everyday, Installs iTunes music store, Installs AIM/Yahoo/MSN/Google compatible Instant Messaging program. Allows you to play DVDs and MP3s. Gives you a good media player that plays ANYTHING. Can install 3D graphics drivers and/or 3D special effects. Because, you see, Ubuntu/Kubuntu have the same legal issues as Novell, and not everything works there either. -- _ John Andersen pgpPpA9JrHqmQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] rsync syntax
On Sunday 24 December 2006 16:42, Jan Engelhardt wrote: On Sunday 24 December 2006 15:53, Jan Engelhardt wrote: What, care to read its manpage? I have, but you know how cryptically they're written! Can't be worse than pure EBNF. -PHSav is a good thing, the rest is up to you! cron is your friend, and pay attention to rsync directory syntax (you want `rsync -PHSav ~/public_stuff/ master:~/www/`, with trailing slashes) I'm okay with the flags and slashes part, already. How do I pass it the remote username, host IP/domain and pw to have it open an ssh2 connection? rsync ~/mine/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/their/ soo simple :) Thanks, Jan, it worked like a charm! Carl -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] rsync syntax
On Sunday 24 December 2006 17:06, Mike Noble wrote: One more thing on this is ssh will require you to enter your passwd. This does not work with trying to automate (running from cron). To fix this on the local machine (machine sync'ing from) you want to setup ssh keys, this can be don with the following command: ssh-keygen -t dsa (just enter return for all questions) Now you want to copy the id_dsa.pub key to the remote machine. cd ~/.ssh scp id_dsa.pub remote machine:/home/user/.ssh ssh into the remote machine cd .ssh cat id_dsa.pub authorized_keys (NOTE: make sure the home directory does not allow other write permission (best to prevent group as well) or ssh will see this as a security issue and will not work). Now if you exit out, and if you ssh into the remote machine again you will not be asked for a password. Thanks Mike! This also worked like a charm! Carl -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Goodbye to suse
On Sunday 24 December 2006 15:00, Randall R Schulz wrote: If you do respect the patent, then you should stick to using commercial MP3 hardware and software. Not necessary. For home/non-commercial use, are free to use mp3. From the mp3 licensing site: Quote: However, no license is needed for private, non-commercial activities (e.g., home-entertainment, receiving broadcasts and creating a personal music library), not generating revenue or other consideration of any kind or for entities with associated annual gross revenue less than US$ 100 000.00. http://www.mp3licensing.com/help/index.html Thomson/Fraunhofer have declined to press any actions against free software projects, which is why such things as lame, sox, grip and 6 or 7 others exist. Given that, I suspect distros that are released totally for free could arguably include mp3 support out of the box, er, download, by simply supplying it from a non-oss media/repo, so as to avoid any problems with the GPL. -- _ John Andersen pgpAVkhd9uZWq.pgp Description: PGP signature
[opensuse] 'Goes along with those mad at Novell/SUSE and leave.
Linux on the desktop has been a year or two away for over a decade now, and there are reasons it's not there yet. To attract nontechnical end-users, a Linux desktop must work out of the box, ideally preinstalled by the hardware vendor. Right now, Linux is usually an aftermarket upgrade on desktop and laptop systems. Default installations of Linux usually have poor multimedia support, are missing numerous codecs like QuickTime and WMV, and often lack even basic 3D acceleration. Linux can't even play DVDs without introducing the risk of lawsuits, and multimedia support files are usually hosted on non-US sites for legal reasons. Third party software support (from Quicken to World of Warcraft) is almost nonexistent. You can't win the desktop if you don't even try. Right now, few in the Linux world are seriously trying. And time is running out. http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/world-domination/world-domination-201.html#id247970 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 'Goes along with those mad at Novell/SUSE and leave.
Fred A. Miller wrote: Linux on the desktop has been a year or two away for over a decade now, and there are reasons it's not there yet. To attract nontechnical end-users, a Linux desktop must work out of the box, ideally preinstalled by the hardware vendor. Right now, Linux is usually an aftermarket upgrade on desktop and laptop systems. Default installations of Linux usually have poor multimedia support, are missing numerous codecs like QuickTime and WMV, and often lack even basic 3D acceleration. Linux can't even play DVDs without introducing the risk of lawsuits, and multimedia support files are usually hosted on non-US sites for legal reasons. Third party software support (from Quicken to World of Warcraft) is almost nonexistent. You can't win the desktop if you don't even try. Right now, few in the Linux world are seriously trying. And time is running out. I've heard this argument too many times to count. With all due respect to the author, the argument is based on the assumption that we want to be mainstreram, that we want everybody and their grandmother to be running Linux. Personally, I don't. Why? Because inevitably software manufacturers will dumb down Linux to the point where the protections cease to be relevant. People will be running their computers 100 percent of the time in root mode because they can't be bothered with the hassle of using 'su' when and only when they really need to upgrade something. Part of the reason why I believe Linux has been insulated from so many worms and virii and other things is the crucial part between the keyboard and the chair; the user that understands not to open every attachment they get, to be wary of phishing scams and whatnot. Is that being elitist? Maybe. But maybe I want to keep what is unique in the Linux world unique. In as far as multimedia support, yeah, SuSE doesn't have that out of the box. You know how long it takes for me to set it up? 2 minutes. And for that little inconvenience Novell and others don't have to ratchet up the price of every Linux shipment out there. Those that want to make linux mainstream have their points, and I respect them. But there are some of us who may not think it is so bad where we are right now. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 'Goes along with those mad at Novell/SUSE and leave.
John Meyer wrote: Fred A. Miller wrote: You can't win the desktop if you don't even try. Right now, few in the Linux world are seriously trying. And time is running out. I've heard this argument too many times to count. With all due respect to the author, the argument is based on the assumption that we want to be mainstreram, that we want everybody and their grandmother to be running Linux. Personally, I don't. Unfortunately, it's not about being mainstream anymore - at this point, it's about viability, period. If linux can't achieve enough of a critical mass on the desktop to matter, microsoft will be able to leverage control of all the onramps, so to speak, to the information highway, and then it's game over. Unless of course, you're content to use linux on a hobbyist basis, without meaningful access to the most internet content, constituting nothing more than small islands of hopeless, irrelevant rebellion in a microsoft world. I agree with esr's contention that somebody needs to get the ball rolling, and to waste no time. Joe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] The latest on Hans Reiser, even though slightly OT.
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Re: [opensuse] 'Goes along with those mad at Novell/SUSE and leave.
On Sunday 24 December 2006 19:03, J Sloan wrote: ... Unfortunately, it's not about being mainstream anymore - at this point, it's about viability, period. If linux can't achieve enough of a critical mass on the desktop to matter, microsoft will be able to leverage control of all the onramps, so to speak, to the information highway, and then it's game over. Unless of course, you're content to use linux on a hobbyist basis, without meaningful access to the most internet content, constituting nothing more than small islands of hopeless, irrelevant rebellion in a microsoft world. Can you define what you mean when you say: - enough of a critical mass - to matter - leverage control - onramps to the information highway - game over - meaningful access - most internet content - islands - hopeless, irrelevant rebellion - microsoft world Suffice it to say I consider that paragraph to be nearly devoid of meaning. However, you may very well have a future in one of these domains: - Marketing communications - Public Relations - Generic vacuous persuasion - Elective representative in the U.S.A. Anyway, I don't believe that desktop acceptance has anything to do with Linux's long-term viability. One simple example among many, the fact that Amazon.com runs almost all of it's on-line systems using Linux, is enough to show that Linux has a secure future. Software development is far more efficient under Linux or other Unix-oriented systems. The only time one would use Windows is when writing Windows-specific software. The personal computing world will not end if Linux does not gain some minimal market- or mind- share. Look at the Macintosh. It has a small minority of the installed base of personal / desktop and server systems. But it remains eminently viable. The sky is not falling on Linux. ... Joe Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 'Goes along with those mad at Novell/SUSE and leave.
Randall R Schulz wrote: Can you define what you mean when you say: - enough of a critical mass - to matter - leverage control - onramps to the information highway - game over - meaningful access - most internet content - islands - hopeless, irrelevant rebellion - microsoft world Sorry, but if you're going to play dumb, it would be far too tedious and time consuming to try and bring you up to speed. Suffice it to say there is apparently a huge gap between our positions. Go back to sleep... Joe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 'Goes along with those mad at Novell/SUSE and leave.
Silent Night : Lyrics Play Music ! Silent night, holy night All is calm, all is bright Round yon Virgin Mother and Child Holy Infant so tender and mild Sleep in heavenly peace Sleep in heavenly peace Silent night, holy night! Shepherds quake at the sight Glories stream from heaven afar Heavenly hosts sing Alleluia! Christ, the Saviour is born Christ, the Saviour is born Silent night, holy night Son of God, love's pure light Radiant beams from Thy holy face With the dawn of redeeming grace Jesus, Lord, at Thy birth Jesus, Lord, at Thy birth On 12/25/06, J Sloan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Randall R Schulz wrote: Can you define what you mean when you say: - enough of a critical mass - to matter - leverage control - onramps to the information highway - game over - meaningful access - most internet content - islands - hopeless, irrelevant rebellion - microsoft world Sorry, but if you're going to play dumb, it would be far too tedious and time consuming to try and bring you up to speed. Suffice it to say there is apparently a huge gap between our positions. Go back to sleep... Joe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 'Goes along with those mad at Novell/SUSE and leave.
Druid wrote: Silent Night : Lyrics Play Music ! Silent night, holy night All is calm, all is bright Round yon Virgin Mother and Child Holy Infant so tender and mild Sleep in heavenly peace Sleep in heavenly peace Silent night, holy night! Shepherds quake at the sight Glories stream from heaven afar Heavenly hosts sing Alleluia! Christ, the Saviour is born Christ, the Saviour is born Silent night, holy night Son of God, love's pure light Radiant beams from Thy holy face With the dawn of redeeming grace Jesus, Lord, at Thy birth Jesus, Lord, at Thy birth Point taken... Thanks for the reminder. Joe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Goodbye to suse
On Sat December 23 2006 11:47 pm, John Andersen scratched these words onto a coconut shell, hoping for an answer: On Saturday 23 December 2006 18:26, Darryl Gregorash wrote: Your Mplayer was uninstalled because of legal reasons, and Novell/SuSE cannot do much about that, if they want to protect their asses and yours from some rather expensive lawsuits. Actually, that is not exactly true. Novell does not un-install software to protect 3rd party patents. His Mplayer was un-installed because its dependencies could not be met. Its that simple. Leaving it there would result in an Mplayer that was horribly broken. Newer versions of pre-requsits or needed libraries were installed but these could not support mplayer. The two options presented were for him to DECLINE the upgrade, or go ahead with it and re-install his 3rd party stuff again afterwards. And the installer DOES indeed ask that question, showing those packages that can't be updated. And to sum up once again ( I guess repetitition does nothing for some people) DO NOT UPGRADE that way.. create a separate /home area which you almost never will have to touch again. And then install every new version you get onto a clean drive. It weeds out the [EMAIL PROTECTED] you install just fooling around. After that, as others have said, go to packman and download various bits needed to get your Mplayer or anything else to work again. takes less time than being angry that it doesn't conform to MS versions . W/ the 10.2 various package managers, you can put it on auto and like WIndows you will never know what was installed. Pick your poisen. If you are truely leaving, that is sad, because you will miss making your computer the safest one about. Security really is *THE* most important thing to us.. after that, we get stuff working again that might have been broken. In fact that was the reason it seems there are so many updates. Security, things get found after the box has been sent off to the printer. We *could* just leave the back doors and coding mistakes in it and deny they are even there. Instead they work really hard the whole time to fix everything. And BTW , unless you are a corporate user it's basically free for you. You *do* realize you are using 10.2 before the box hits the shelves, do you not? ;) -- j ooh Santa ! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Goodbye to suse
On Sun December 24 2006 11:52 am, Patrick Shanahan scratched these words onto a coconut shell, hoping for an answer: * Bruce Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] [12-24-06 11:07]: Yup... I ordered on the 12th too and have received nothing from DigitalRiver, email or otherwise other than an order acknowledge. In the time since the order, I have switched to Kubuntu and I doubt I will even use the package if/when it arrives. But long live Novell not If you feel that way, and apparently you do considering you have switched distros, LEAVE. Do not hang around here just to bash openSUSE, that is the definition of a troll and the function that you are filling! Dammit, I guess Chris' Troll Remover (TM) left w/ him ... Wonder if we can re-engineer it for Henne . It might make a nice 12th night gift GDR ( very very fast ) -- j Ooh, Santa's here.. time to play! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 'Goes along with those mad at Novell/SUSE and leave.
On Sunday 24 December 2006 19:46, J Sloan wrote: Randall R Schulz wrote: Can you define what you mean when you say: - enough of a critical mass - to matter - leverage control - onramps to the information highway - game over - meaningful access - most internet content - islands - hopeless, irrelevant rebellion - microsoft world Sorry, but if you're going to play dumb, it would be far too tedious and time consuming to try and bring you up to speed. Suffice it to say there is apparently a huge gap between our positions. Go back to sleep... Then I take it you cannot neither explicate nor defend your position, whatever it may be, using concrete, unambiguous and non-metaphorical language. I accept your concession. Joe RRS -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] burn a zone free DVD???
is it possible? I can play a zone 2 movieon my linux , but I want to use my real zone1player TV and be comfortable. Any software that stripes out the zone code?? K3bmade a nice copy...but it won't play on DVD plplayer as it's still zone 2. -- Gracia...Cooleemee, NC Registered Linux user #263390 - SuSE 10.1 Pro http://www.flickr.com/photos/mynameistaken/ When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross- Sinclair Lewis -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 'Goes along with those mad at Novell/SUSE and leave.
Randall R Schulz wrote: On Sunday 24 December 2006 19:46, J Sloan wrote: Randall R Schulz wrote: Can you define what you mean when you say: - enough of a critical mass - to matter - leverage control - onramps to the information highway - game over - meaningful access - most internet content - islands - hopeless, irrelevant rebellion - microsoft world Sorry, but if you're going to play dumb, it would be far too tedious and time consuming to try and bring you up to speed. Suffice it to say there is apparently a huge gap between our positions. Go back to sleep... Then I take it you cannot neither explicate nor defend your position, whatever it may be, using concrete, unambiguous and non-metaphorical language. I accept your concession. No need. Perhaps I was too hasty to dismiss your questions - Each of the points you reference above can be easily grasped with just a bit of thought, but I hesitate to put a lot of work into explaining all these points if you're really determined not to understand. The bottom line is that you apparently see no danger to linux, but I do - as for the details, they will have to await another post, when I have some time to laboriously explain each of the common terms used above. Joe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Re: [oS] The latest on Hans Reiser, even though slightly OT.
On Monday 25 December 2006 10:21, Fred A. Miller wrote: http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,72342-0.html And when are you comming back on the OT list? -- Powered by SuSE 10.1 Kernel 2.6.16.21-0.25-default KDE 3.5.4 Kmail 1.9.4 11:57am up 10:07, 4 users, load average: 0.43, 0.30, 0.21 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Open-source leader leaving Novell for Google
Jesus, I hope it isn't true. But if it is, we will miss him dearly, both here and very much so on the Samba list. However I can under stand and respect the decision. Good luck and God speed Jeremy. Jerry, can you pick up the slack?? An ill wind blows for us all as a result of the MS deal -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 (936) 715-9333 (936) 715-9339 fax www.rankinlawfirm.com -- - Original Message - From: Fred A. Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: opensuse opensuse@opensuse.org Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 10:59 PM Subject: [opensuse] Open-source leader leaving Novell for Google Jeremy Allison, a high-profile open-source programmer, has resigned from Novell because of objections over its patent deal with Microsoft and is moving to Google. http://news.zdnet.com/2100-3513_22-6145615.html?tag=nl.e539 -- MickySoft, the ultimate corporate parasite. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 'Goes along with those mad at Novell/SUSE and leave.
On Sunday 24 December 2006 20:55, J Sloan wrote: ... No need. Perhaps I was too hasty to dismiss your questions - Each of the points you reference above can be easily grasped with just a bit of thought, but I hesitate to put a lot of work into explaining all these points if you're really determined not to understand. On the contrary. I want a discussion that is not dripping with ambiguity, imagery and allusion and not so laden with emotion. Nothing good is served by carrying on in that manner. You could call it FUD... The bottom line is that you apparently see no danger to linux, but I do - as for the details, they will have to await another post, when I have some time to laboriously explain each of the common terms used above. In fact, I see no danger to Linux because you cannot destroy an idea. Linux is too entrenched and too important to far too many individuals and organizations, including large business concerns, distributed all over the globe to be allowed to die or be killed. Consider the RIM / Blackberry suit. It was resolved because the technology was just too damn important to too many important people in the U.S. (i.e., people willing to shell out huge bucks to be distracted by their email at all times in all places) to be allowed to go dark. The same holds for Linux, only in a much less frivolous way. Joe Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 'Goes along with those mad at Novell/SUSE and leave.
On Sun, 2006-12-24 at 20:55 -0800, J Sloan wrote: No need. Perhaps I was too hasty to dismiss your questions - Each of the points you reference above can be easily grasped with just a bit of thought, but I hesitate to put a lot of work into explaining all these points if you're really determined not to understand. The bottom line is that you apparently see no danger to linux, but I do - as for the details, they will have to await another post, when I have some time to laboriously explain each of the common terms used above. Joe please don't trouble yourself...we have better things to do. -- Tom in NM SuSE 9.3/Evolution 10:36pm up 14 days 9:18, 3 users, load average: 4.16, 4.10, 4.03 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Goodbye to suse
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... And to sum up once again ( I guess repetitition does nothing for some people) DO NOT UPGRADE that way.. create a separate /home area which you almost never will have to touch again. And then install every new version you get onto a clean drive. It weeds out the [EMAIL PROTECTED] you install just fooling around. I can vouch for this advice. I did this a couple of years ago, and every update since 9.2 has left my home directory intact and fully usable. Just two problems: first, I took others' advice again to switch from Reiser to ext3fs, but my home directory is too big to get onto cd's or dvd's, so I now have a system based on ext3fs except for the /home directory, which is still Reiser. I'm digging through the home directories so I can divide it onto several dvds, but it's going to take a while. Second, I keep finding stuff I really don't want to dump, even though I haven't looked at it in years. And may never look at again. So, converting my home partition over to ext3fs may take a long time, if I ever done. I just hope the deep bugs on this list keep talking about in Reiser don't come to my system. -- John Perry -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Goodbye to suse
John E. Perry wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... And to sum up once again ( I guess repetitition does nothing for some people) DO NOT UPGRADE that way.. create a separate /home area which you almost never will have to touch again. And then install every new version you get onto a clean drive. It weeds out the [EMAIL PROTECTED] you install just fooling around. I can vouch for this advice. I did this a couple of years ago, and every update since 9.2 has left my home directory intact and fully usable. Just two problems: first, I took others' advice again to switch from Reiser to ext3fs, but my home directory is too big to get onto cd's or dvd's, so I now have a system based on ext3fs except for the /home directory, which is still Reiser. I'm digging through the home directories so I can divide it onto several dvds, but it's going to take a while. Second, I keep finding stuff I really don't want to dump, even though I haven't looked at it in years. And may never look at again. So, converting my home partition over to ext3fs may take a long time, if I ever done. I just hope the deep bugs on this list keep talking about in Reiser don't come to my system. How big *is* your /home directory?! :-) And how big is your / partition where Suse is intstalled? Surely it must be big enough and with enough space left for you to copy your current /home directory to / then format your current /home partition in ext3 and then it copy back from / . No, this can't be done? Cheers. -- In a period of great joy and pleasure you are comforted by the thought that tragedy is just around the corner. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Sound from browsers stuck in a loop
Guy wrote: Basil Chupin schreef: Guy wrote: Basil Chupin schreef: Guy wrote: Hi all, I'm using OpenSuse 10.1 and the sound system is set up correctly (Alsa SoundBlaster Live 5.1 card) cause everything plays alright. Quite often I've got this annoying problem with playing clips from the internet be it from Konqueror or Firefox. What happens is that the clip (audio or video) plays and then for no apparent reason about 1 second of the clip gets stuck in a loop and is repeated ad infinitum. The remedy is to kill the nspluginviewer when using Konqueror or to leave the site with Firefox. So you're never sure you can hear the clip in its entirety or not which is damn irritating. Let alone giving a demo about Linux and then having this thing happening. Has anyone witnessed this and better nows what's wrong? Thx, Guy. Are you using the v9 beta of Shockwave Flash plugin for Firefox? This beta does this and I had to revert back to the released version (7) to get back my sanity. Cheers. Hi Basil, You hit the nail on the head! My version is exactly : Shockwave Flash 9.0 d55. I suppose Shockwave is aware of this? I have absolutely no idea. I didn't tell them but I can't be the only one who experienced this problem so someone must have told them. As you may be aware, the beta gets rid of the problem with the audio and video being out of sync in v7. Well, v9 beta fixed that but created the loop effect. As I hardly ever watch videos online the out-of-sync problem doesn't worry me that much. Thx for making my Chistmass a little merrier! Merry Christmass, Guy. And the same to you! :-) Cheers. One final addition : I went over to http://www.adobe.com/go/fp9_update_b2_installer_linuxplugin and saw they had a more recent version than mine available, nmly Shockwave Flash 9.0 d78 or 9.0.21.78 to be more precise. I've tried it and it seems to have solved the problem. So you can give it another try and fill in their bugform when you stumble upon one. There are sites like http://www.motogp.com where you won't get far with version 7 (pages cut). Bye, Guy. Nope, this beta version is as useless as its predecessor: the video goes into loop mode at least once during play but at least now it actually breaks out of the loop after a few seconds instead of looping ad finitum. Have gone back to v7. Cheers. -- In a period of great joy and pleasure you are comforted by the thought that tragedy is just around the corner. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: [oS] The latest on Hans Reiser, even though slightly OT.
C. Brouerius van Nidek a écrit : On Monday 25 December 2006 10:21, Fred A. Miller wrote: http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,72342-0.html And when are you comming back on the OT list? I think this is not OT. I don't follow OT list and HR problems impact us all... reiserfs users jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/mediawiki/index.php/GPS_Lowrance_GO -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 'Goes along with those mad at Novell/SUSE and leave.
On Sunday 24 December 2006 19:39, Randall R Schulz wrote: On Sunday 24 December 2006 19:03, J Sloan wrote: ... Unfortunately, it's not about being mainstream anymore - at this point, it's about viability, period. If linux can't achieve enough of a critical mass on the desktop to matter, microsoft will be able to leverage control of all the onramps, so to speak, to the information highway, and then it's game over. Unless of course, you're content to use linux on a hobbyist basis, without meaningful access to the most internet content, constituting nothing more than small islands of hopeless, irrelevant rebellion in a microsoft world. Joe is absolutely correct to be worried about the future viability of Linux software. Of course, it's not game over today, but if you've looked at the implications of a future where every device, every piece of hardware has to meet DRM specifications or the media will not play he's correct to be worried. I suggest you start with this article that talks about the implications http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.txt that Microsoft Vista has for equipment suppliers. We (Linux users) are at what 4-5 % of computer users? Much of our current use of hardware is based on adapting hardware made for Windows equipment to Linux. What if we come to the point that we can't buy graphics cards without Windows DRM that relegates linux users to low resolution graphics? I'm not suggesting that the sky is falling today, but I do think there are a lot of black clouds on the horizon that we should be concerned about. Anyway, I don't believe that desktop acceptance has anything to do with Linux's long-term viability. One simple example among many, the fact that Amazon.com runs almost all of it's on-line systems using Linux, is enough to show that Linux has a secure future. If regular Linux users can't get access to hardware because it's DRM crippled and all you want to do is run servers on it, OK. If the rest of us who currently use our our Linux boxes to store and play audio, video, and all kinds of other files, maybe not. Software development is far more efficient under Linux or other Unix-oriented systems. The only time one would use Windows is when writing Windows-specific software. Or when you're forced to because everything is contaminated with DRM. The personal computing world will not end if Linux does not gain some minimal market- or mind- share. Look at the Macintosh. It has a small minority of the installed base of personal / desktop and server systems. But it remains eminently viable. Yes, but there's a crucial difference. Apple is every bit as proprietary as Microsoft, and every bit as DRM laden. They wouldn't care if the world adopted the sort of DRM Microsoft is proposing because it's also to their advantage. It's the rest of us with open source software that might be locked out. The sky is not falling on Linux. I'm not suggesting that the sky is falling today, but I do think there are a lot of black clouds on the horizon that we should be concerned about. Microsoft may well have over-reached itself and it's DRM laden Vista may fall flat on it's face. I hope so, but when someone with that much firepower takes aim it's prudent to take cover. (And plan counter-measures!) -- Bob Smits Ladysmith BC Phone 250-245-2553 Fax 250-245-5531 Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 'Goes along with those mad at Novell/SUSE and leave.
J Sloan a écrit : Sorry, but if you're going to play dumb, with several players... Linux is born quite many times agos and did not stopped to grow. Linux is now a major part of the server market and this alone make it's life sure. To hope find a solution to problems, these problems must be precisely evaluated and solutions found. right now, I see only one real problem, covering most of your concerns: some unavoidable public standards are legally uncompatible with opensource (mp3 writing - not reading, dvdcss...) in that matter, there are two solution part: * find a company willing to pay for a global licence for the proprietary standards (probably the simpler part) * find a way to make these drivers interact with opensourse. A very good solution is an openSUSE _BOX_. Only the opensource world need to accept than _some_ very small parts of a running system _can't be_ opensource, only for a dawn fu... legal reason. The reaction on the deal Novell/Microsoft shows that part of the OS community is not yet ready to this, may be simply because a legal frame have not yet been found that makes all the parties feel comfortable. this is the right direction to work, not wide spread rants... jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/mediawiki/index.php/GPS_Lowrance_GO -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
