[opensuse-factory] Amarok switches Firefox desktop..
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, When pushing the button install mp3 support in Amarok, firefox changes desktop. Say Thunderbird is on 1, Amarok on 2 and Firefox on 3. After pushing the button firefox moves to 2, so i have to put it back on 3 again. (besides this the link: get software, takes you to a searchpage where factory can be found, but searching for mp3 support returns: 0 collections and 0 binaries from 0 source packages Permanent link to this result Nothing found ;-) - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.22.5-10-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systeem: openSUSE 10.3 (X86-64) Beta3 KDE: 3.5.7 release 58 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG46DWX5/X5X6LpDgRAkdrAKDZ4mXD4mYDoFuMV0O5wdBtcFaUFgCgqfpU c9/0Bi0HihoLRUrYr1qgAEE= =h//q -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] Amarok updates..
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Updating amarok from packman 10.3 gives: YaST2 conflicts list - generated 2007-09-09 09:51:18 Geen geldige oplossing gevonden met alleen oplosbaren van de beste architectuur. Bij deze draai zijn alleen oplosbaren met de beste architectuur overwogen. Het overwegen van alle mogelijke oplosbaren neemt enige tijd in beslag maar kan een bruikbaar resultaat opleveren. Conflictoplossing: ( ) Voer een oplosbaarheidsdraai uit met ALLE mogelijkheden. libtunepimp5-mad kan niet worden ge�nstalleerd omdat afhankelijkheden ontbreken Er zijn geen installeerbare aanbieders van libtunepimp5 == 0.5.3-100.pm.2 voor libtunepimp5-mad-0.5.3-100.pm.2.x86_64[Packman-RPMs] === libtunepimp5-mad-0.5.3-100.pm.2.x86_64[Packman-RPMs] === libtunepimp5-mad-0.5.3-100.pm.2.x86_64[Packman-RPMs] is nodig voor amarok-1.4.7-111.pm.4.x86_64[Packman-RPMs] (libtunepimp5-mad) libtunepimp5-0.5.3-100.pm.2.i586[Packman-RPMs] levert libtunepimp5 == 0.5.3-100.pm.2, maar heeft een andere architectuur. (null) Conflictoplossing: ( ) libtunepimp5 installeren alhoewel het de architectuur zal wijzigen ( ) libtunepimp5-mad niet installeren ( ) Negeer deze vereiste hier libtunepimp5-mp4 kan niet worden ge�nstalleerd omdat afhankelijkheden ontbreken Er zijn geen installeerbare aanbieders van libtunepimp5 == 0.5.3-100.pm.2 voor libtunepimp5-mp4-0.5.3-100.pm.2.x86_64[Packman-RPMs] === libtunepimp5-mp4-0.5.3-100.pm.2.x86_64[Packman-RPMs] === libtunepimp5-mp4-0.5.3-100.pm.2.x86_64[Packman-RPMs] is nodig voor amarok-1.4.7-111.pm.4.x86_64[Packman-RPMs] (libtunepimp5-mp4) libtunepimp5-0.5.3-100.pm.2.i586[Packman-RPMs] levert libtunepimp5 == 0.5.3-100.pm.2, maar heeft een andere architectuur. (null) Conflictoplossing: ( ) libtunepimp5 installeren alhoewel het de architectuur zal wijzigen ( ) libtunepimp5-mp4 niet installeren ( ) Negeer deze vereiste hier YaST2 conflicts list END ### ;-) - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.22.5-10-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systeem: openSUSE 10.3 (X86-64) Beta3 KDE: 3.5.7 release 58 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG46akX5/X5X6LpDgRAm+VAJsEV2ixHvDbbwGOVI9ugO/Uv8FjoQCfcSKe S6/4VUd7nyviFsw7j+SpvAg= =pazu -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Can not install Beta 3, with more than 16 partitons (pata)
Carlos E. R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] I downloaded the dvd, which took two whole days. I boot the dvd. It asks for my language (US), but not for the keyboard (ES), which is a nuisance. You can change it in the proposal screen. If you would have choosen ES as language, you would have received automatically a spanish keyboard as well. It searches the partitions, sees there are disks with more than 16 partitions, and pops a large warning, recommending to reboot the install with kernel option hwprobe=-modules.pata. That should not happen. Please file a major bug in bugzilla against Installation So I do. (Typing symbols like =- in a non US keyboard is a nuisance. When will grub support different keyboard layouts?) When I reach the point of installation (when it tries the network in order to add online repos), it pops a window requesting insert opensuse 10.3 CD1, continue/cancel. I'm using DVD! Why does it ask for the CD1? Anyway, continue doesn't work (it asks again for CD1), and cancel aborts the install. What now? That's strange :-( Do you have a SATA CDrom? Andreas: is that the workaround you wanted me to test? It doesn't work at all :-( You shouldn't have received the first message at all :-(. Thanks for testing. More. If I type mount in one of the consoles, it yields nothing. Not even the root filesystem shows! Why? It seems to want to mount the dvd in /var/adm/mount. There is nothing there. I mount it manually, try continue. It still doesn't see the DVD. So I ask here for procedure. Thanks, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpLirpCwL7ak.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Can not install Beta 3, with more than 16 partitons (pata)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Sunday 2007-09-09 at 17:39 +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote: Carlos E. R. writes: [...] I downloaded the dvd, which took two whole days. I boot the dvd. It asks for my language (US), but not for the keyboard (ES), which is a nuisance. You can change it in the proposal screen. If you would have choosen ES as language, you would have received automatically a spanish keyboard as well. Yes, the keyboard can be changed, but much later. What I mean is that it should be able to change it right at the start, so that the manual commands I have to type in the console during testing are not a nuisance. It searches the partitions, sees there are disks with more than 16 partitions, and pops a large warning, recommending to reboot the install with kernel option hwprobe=-modules.pata. That should not happen. Please file a major bug in bugzilla against Installation Ok, will do. Anyway, continue doesn't work (it asks again for CD1), and cancel aborts the install. What now? That's strange :-( Do you have a SATA CDrom? Not at all. I have hard disks hda, b and d, and dvd in hdc, all PATA. No SATA in the mobo at all. I had my external usb backup HD connected and powered at the time, though. Andreas: is that the workaround you wanted me to test? It doesn't work at all :-( You shouldn't have received the first message at all :-(. Thanks for testing. No workaround? I'll have to wait till Beta 4, then. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFG5BiqtTMYHG2NR9URAmCjAJ9AO3kMhwjSMVHAtuvU8jit3Xt5HwCeIfza pWlAFglKK6llNYj5LJPenj4= =6FcX -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] reiserfs
Hello, Andreas Jaeger wrote: I've asked our PPC guys (using Apple and IBM hardware, no Pegasos) whether they could reproduce this but they could not, Andreas I reproduced it a couple of times, so I added to bugzilla: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=308532 When I took out the HDD containing the problematic reiserfs partition, this problem was gone, but I ran into another problem, so I still can't install on that machine... Bye, CzP - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Can not install Beta 3, with more than 16 partitons (pata)
Andreas Jaeger wrote: I downloaded the dvd, which took two whole days. I boot the dvd. It asks for my language (US), but not for the keyboard (ES), which is a nuisance. You can change it in the proposal screen. If you would have choosen ES as language, you would have received automatically a spanish keyboard as well. Just as a comment - I think the assumption made here is perfectly alright. I usually go with country=CH, but our keyboards vary quite bit - Swiss, UK English, US English, even a Danish one. /Per Jessen, Zürich -- http://www.spamchek.com/ - your spam is our business. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] NTFS partitions in Beta3
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andreas Jaeger schreef: Krupanský Rastislav [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello 1. Why is internal ntfs partiton mounted as ntfs instead of ntfs-3g?In Beta2 ntfs partition was mounted by ntfs-3g. No idea - please file a bugreport and attach the YaST log files and /etc/fstab. 2. I haven´t tried writting to my external disk formatted with ntfs yet.Are you plane writting to external disks supported by default via ntfs-3g driver also? Yes, that's how it should work - if it does not, please open a bugreport. Andreas it *is* mounted ntfs-3g ;-) - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.18.8-05-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systeem: openSUSE 10.2 (X86-64) KDE: 3.5.7 release 35.1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG5FRnX5/X5X6LpDgRAghuAJ9DvelfI88obOwzIFRZmaVkdNM2OQCgtr2Z 4PHdPpf7x6TEbHPbhG40Ap4= =h5ms -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] NTFS partitions in Beta3
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Krupanský Rastislav schreef: Andreas Jaeger schreef: Krupanský Rastislav [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello 1. Why is internal ntfs partiton mounted as ntfs instead of ntfs-3g?In Beta2 ntfs partition was mounted by ntfs-3g. No idea - please file a bugreport and attach the YaST log files and /etc/fstab. 2. I haven´t tried writting to my external disk formatted with ntfs yet.Are you plane writting to external disks supported by default via ntfs-3g driver also? Yes, that's how it should work - if it does not, please open a bugreport. Andreas it *is* mounted ntfs-3g ;-) I wouldn´t say.So why i´m not able to write to my internal ntfs partition? :-( In Beta2 i was. I´ve just created a new bug #309078.So have a look on attached screenshot. Regards, Rasto I thought so to by a message that it could not change the owner rights.. But when i looked, the files were in place. my /etc/fstab shows ntfs-3g on the windows partitions, but defaults,nls=utf8 0 0 , are not present... so it is not complete as it is... - - Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.22.5-10-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systeem: openSUSE 10.3 (X86-64) Beta3 KDE: 3.5.7 release 58 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG5FvAX5/X5X6LpDgRAgfaAJ9muBYFiagTKOaVzywIa6ZkksHI8gCZAS1o bJjXazxtuwqmZdbhYpXRFSk= =KN6o -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Can not install Beta 3, with more than 16 partitons (pata)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Sunday 2007-09-09 at 18:00 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: That should not happen. Please file a major bug in bugzilla against Installation Ok, will do. I did as Bug #309070. But now I see it was already reported in comment #11 of Bug #305095, which reports the same problem as me: the partition problem and the CD not found error. Both are related. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFG5Fv0tTMYHG2NR9URAt1jAKCJstcJzdIhC2l4WET8k0ZPdSMaiwCfe3mn lVfkKods7IYpeNAwIz6sPNA= =Hnbw -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] NTFS partitions in Beta3
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 M9. schreef: Krupanský Rastislav schreef: Andreas Jaeger schreef: Krupanský Rastislav [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello 1. Why is internal ntfs partiton mounted as ntfs instead of ntfs-3g?In Beta2 ntfs partition was mounted by ntfs-3g. No idea - please file a bugreport and attach the YaST log files and /etc/fstab. 2. I haven´t tried writting to my external disk formatted with ntfs yet.Are you plane writting to external disks supported by default via ntfs-3g driver also? Yes, that's how it should work - if it does not, please open a bugreport. Andreas it *is* mounted ntfs-3g ;-) I wouldn´t say.So why i´m not able to write to my internal ntfs partition? :-( In Beta2 i was. I´ve just created a new bug #309078.So have a look on attached screenshot. Regards, Rasto I thought so to by a message that it could not change the owner rights.. But when i looked, the files were in place. my /etc/fstab shows ntfs-3g on the windows partitions, but defaults,nls=utf8 0 0 , are not present... so it is not complete as it is... My mistake, when i tried to correct the entrances, they highlighted in red and underlined.. so they were present.. fstab looks much different than in 10.2, that is for sure... - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.22.5-10-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systeem: openSUSE 10.3 (X86-64) Beta3 KDE: 3.5.7 release 58 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG5F0SX5/X5X6LpDgRAstAAJ9nMgHsSbv5la9F2G3F61pFSheykQCfeagA e5lrDhXOzAbx46onjnjwtmA= =SMen -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] NTFS partitions in Beta3
I wouldn´t say.So why i´m not able to write to my internal ntfs partition? :-( In Beta2 i was. I´ve just created a new bug #309078.So have a look on attached screenshot. Regards, Rasto -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andreas Jaeger schreef: Krupanský Rastislav [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello 1. Why is internal ntfs partiton mounted as ntfs instead of ntfs-3g?In Beta2 ntfs partition was mounted by ntfs-3g. No idea - please file a bugreport and attach the YaST log files and /etc/fstab. 2. I haven´t tried writting to my external disk formatted with ntfs yet.Are you plane writting to external disks supported by default via ntfs-3g driver also? Yes, that's how it should work - if it does not, please open a bugreport. Andreas it *is* mounted ntfs-3g ;-) - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.18.8-05-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systeem: openSUSE 10.2 (X86-64) KDE: 3.5.7 release 35.1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG5FRnX5/X5X6LpDgRAghuAJ9DvelfI88obOwzIFRZmaVkdNM2OQCgtr2Z 4PHdPpf7x6TEbHPbhG40Ap4= =h5ms -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] Keyboard/language configuration during install [Was: Can not install Beta 3, with more than 16 partitons (pata)]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Sunday 2007-09-09 at 19:46 +0200, Per Jessen wrote: Andreas Jaeger wrote: It asks for my language (US), but not for the keyboard (ES), which is a nuisance. You can change it in the proposal screen. If you would have choosen ES as language, you would have received automatically a spanish keyboard as well. Just as a comment - I think the assumption made here is perfectly alright. I usually go with country=CH, but our keyboards vary quite bit - Swiss, UK English, US English, even a Danish one. The problem here is that the keyboard can only be changed during the proposal, and that is too late. It should be possible to select both language and keyboard (different if needed) at the same time, right at the start. The right keyboard is necessary to easily type commands needed for testing in the console during the installation, even before the proposal. Furthermore, the keyboard should be selectable right at the grub screen, as one option more. Sometimes we need to type options in that screen, and we have to test all keys till we find where the /-= symbols are. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFG5GA6tTMYHG2NR9URAnS7AJ4wajxEhG+3njh1Fg0vihPIJdxGXwCeMWc1 YcTppqFtbJeLKCfKBylcF08= =vo1T -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] online updates in beta3
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Stephan Kulow schreef: Hi! We have something new to test for beta3: - check if after doing online updates your libzypp changelog has the following entry: * Fr Sep 07 2007 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - RequirementIsMet: return true only if ALL Atoms are NOT incomplete; Bug 308252 If it doesn't, please attach the test case generated by zypper up --debug-solver But only do so if your beta3 isn't known to be broken in other ways :) Thanks, Stephan Where is this changelog to be found? The update was found, and installed, (without linker cache procedure or manual interference) After that it showed: no updates available.. - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.22.5-10-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systeem: openSUSE 10.3 (X86-64) Beta3 KDE: 3.5.7 release 58 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG5GDbX5/X5X6LpDgRAjBLAJ9p8fO7CqXKXEf4FowNOnNsh1qWWwCg03jZ OGmqzfTLWiM43lxI7gvLQJI= =1Fu0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Can not install Beta 3, with more than 16 partitons (pata)
2007/9/9, Carlos E. R. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2007-08-24 at 14:41 +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote (in [EMAIL PROTECTED]): Carlos E. R. writes: The Thursday 2007-08-23 at 22:34 +0200, Marcus Meissner wrote: We now use libata for IDE drives which is a SCSI based library. Is there any hope of increasing the 16 partition limit some time in the future? No - but we added a workaround for this. If you have more than 16 partitions, just give it a try! Alternatively, will the ata support remain for ever, with maintenance? I guess for 10.4, we will remove it. I have disks with 20 partitions. I suspect I'm not the only one using more than 16 partitions. So, please test whether it our workaround makes you happy ;-) So, I tried Beta 3. I downloaded the dvd, which took two whole days. I boot the dvd. It asks for my language (US), but not for the keyboard (ES), which is a nuisance. It searches the partitions, sees there are disks with more than 16 partitions, and pops a large warning, recommending to reboot the install with kernel option hwprobe=-modules.pata. Do'nt be misery, buy a new hard disk! When I reach the point of installation (when it tries the network in order to add online repos), it pops a window requesting insert opensuse 10.3 CD1, continue/cancel. I'm using DVD! Why does it ask for the CD1? Anyway, continue doesn't work (it asks again for CD1), and cancel aborts the install. What now? You tryied to load in the command line from the first install screen with insmod=ide-generic? What chipset has Your mobo? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Can not install Beta 3, with more than 16 partitons (pata)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Sunday 2007-09-09 at 18:52 -0300, Juan Erbes wrote: I downloaded the dvd, which took two whole days. I boot the dvd. It asks for my language (US), but not for the keyboard (ES), which is a nuisance. It searches the partitions, sees there are disks with more than 16 partitions, and pops a large warning, recommending to reboot the install with kernel option hwprobe=-modules.pata. Do'nt be misery, buy a new hard disk! What for? Actually, it is a new disk, less than a year old. But PATA, of course. Notice that new disks are bigger than old disks, and will possibly have more partitions. Some people have reported using more than 40 partitions, and I understand they are using SATA in emulated PATA mode precisely because they use lots of partitions. When I reach the point of installation (when it tries the network in order to add online repos), it pops a window requesting insert opensuse 10.3 CD1, continue/cancel. I'm using DVD! Why does it ask for the CD1? Anyway, continue doesn't work (it asks again for CD1), and cancel aborts the install. What now? You tryied to load in the command line from the first install screen with insmod=ide-generic? Why should I? :-? The message box tells me to use hwprobe=-modules.pata, nothing more. I can access the cdrom if I mount it manually and search its contents. It is Yast who says it can't. There is no need to insmod anything. What chipset has Your mobo? I don't remember. The mobo is MSI circa 2001. That's not related, I'm not the only one having the exact same problem, according to bugzilla. Check #218122 and #305095, for instance. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFG5IPNtTMYHG2NR9URAjlqAJ9MBe/kEtZ9d4YB6AhhIx3zN0ruVgCfY6w4 5uRYalh5uNgEKicgT4vdLDY= =lKZa -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Internet Printing
2007/9/9, Kai Ponte [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Saturday 08 September 2007 22:23, Michael S. Dunsavage wrote: Has anyone set up internet printing with suse? Or know of any information out there? I tried google but really didn't get any where. What exactly do you mean by internet printing? -- kai ponte www.perfectreign.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IPP?, cups supports it out of the box Ciro -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Can't connect to Creative Zen MTP device
On Sunday 09 September 2007 00:12, steve wrote: If anybody can offer any suggestions on getting this thing to work, I'd appreciate it. Please mention any other libraries you think I might need, I believe I have all the necessary ones but it can't hurt to check. The zen players use mtp media transport protocol not usb mass storage. Steve, transport protocol is common way for 2 devices to talk. While error can be in transport, it also can be that gnomad2 can't access device that should receive data. There was one such case that is solved, but to make sure I asked you to run gnomad2 as root user, which can be accomplished by: Press Alt-F2 , in Command field enter gnomad2, click on Options, check Run as different user, enter root as Username, enter root password as Password, click on Run. See if gnomad2 can find your device. I never had luck using it in any distro. as far as I can tell the only software that works is what comes with the player for windows. had good luck with ipods, any rca lyra, archos is what I am using today. Sincerely, if you ask a question and than don't follow given instructions, than that is a part of the problem. It is not a problem if you don't know what means 'run as root', problem is not to ask what that means, and insted of question just to slide into rant about bad luck with distros. When Creative find compelling reasons to write drivers and applications that will enable Linux users to use their devices than it will be as effortless a it is in Windows. Until such time road is sometimes bumpy, but reward at the end is for the most of Linux users worth to go ahead. They keep what is better in Linux and get their toys working. -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Questions for Partitioning guru's
On Sunday 09 September 2007 00:30, Bob S wrote: However, Yast partitioner will not allow me to create or edit it because of the extended partition size restrictions. It will not let me resize it neither because supposedly it is the wrong file system type. So, now all of the free space is lost behind it. Does this mean I have to delete the extended partition and make it extend to the end of the disk and lose all of my present logical partitions? If you have logical partitons than you must have extended partition. To make communication clear, please run as root: fdisk -l and post the output. That will make discussion more practical, based on real data. -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Can't connect to Creative Zen MTP device
On Sunday 09 September 2007 00:58, Steven Cai wrote: On Sat, 2007-09-08 at 23:35 -0500, Rajko M. wrote: What I'm missing is openSUSE and kernel version? Can you access device running kdesu gnomad2 -- Regards, Rajko. Hey, I'm on 10.2, kernel is 2.6.18.8-0.5. no, gnomad2 doesn't work as root either. gnomad2 claims it is a supported device as well. But I have heard MTP device support is very hit-and-miss, should have done my research before buying. Hmm... As I stated in reply to OP (that I thought it is yours), problem is actually solved, by no my fault at all :-) http://groups.google.com/group/alt.os.linux.suse/browse_thread/thread/4b490af6416c5eb7/2452938fdcc82bb7?lnk=stq=SUSE+Creative+Zen+Vrnum=7#2452938fdcc82bb7 I hope that link will survive as single line, if not, you can copy it piece by piece. -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] list cops blaming top posts
Randall R Schulz wrote: Face it, all these bandwidth arguments, when applied to email lists, are utterly false. the bandwith in question is that of 56k modem owners... jdd -- http://www.dodin.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] compiz-fusion doesn't works !
On Sunday 09 September 2007 05:22, Kenneth Schneider wrote: On Sun, 2007-09-09 at 02:31 +0200, primm wrote: On Sunday 09 September 2007 01:58, you wrote: snip wtf The guys at cyberorg call it the super key. Maybe it's time for supper. Please do not send a message to the list and a copy to me. I'm a stupid girl I know. But I'm getting less stupid. Probably. Love from Lynn I wouldn't call you stupid girl, after all you're using linux. Thanks Kenneth. A confidence boost. The las job I had was wp on a crashintosh. Now I get to use proper computers. Lynn x -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Questions for Partitioning guru's
On Sunday 09 September 2007 00:45, Bob S wrote: On Saturday 08 September 2007 01:18, Rajko M. wrote: On Friday 07 September 2007 11:49:51 pm Bob S wrote: A while back I purchased a 250 GB Sata drive, intending to install different os's and or versions of SuSE. I installed 10.2 on my shiny new drive but I stupidly partitioned 3 primaries, /, /swap, and /home, and used the fourth primary for the extended partition. Dumb move - Out of partitions with about 150GB of free space. (I run 10.0 on another small IDE drive) The extended partition is just a container for logical partitions, kind of virtual hard disk within real hard disk. So nothing to move, just add new partitions. Yeah,assuming that I had made the extended partition to filll up the entire hard disk, but as I explained to Felix I cannot make the extended partion larger without deleting it. I already sent idea, in another post, to let us see the numbers. If you have already logical partition than extended is in use and can't be deleted, but let us see fdisk -l than we can talk about facts. My favorite for partitioning is command line program 'cfdisk', or recently YaST Partitioner that makes possible to prepare disk from partitioning and resizing to formating. The Yast partitioner is the one complaining I am not allowed to do this. The cfdisk doesn't list extended partition like fdisk. I use cca 10 GB for installation. Don't know what cca is. Sorry, cca is abbreviation for circa, Latin word that means about. For new installations I use old home directory, but create new users. That way changes in configuration of desktop (KDE, GNOME, other applications) doesn't interfere with older versions. I don't follow what you are saying here. Use the old /home directory? User 'me' I use for everyday work. /home/me/.kde has my working settings that I don't want to have messed up. User 'test' is the one that I can always remove /home/test/.kde is where new versions of KDE applications can store settings without changing settings for older versions. This way I have one /home partition, but I test new version of application with user 'test' first and if everything seems fine than I can use that for everday work, logged as user 'me'. The newest tool to experiment with new versions of openSUSE, Live CDs, other distros, is virtual machine. In openSUSE you have options to use QEMU, VirtualBox or Xen, but you can opt for VMware, Parallels etc. For details just ask Google, there is few articles on openSUSE about virtual machines too. Yeah, but any of these virtual solutions require disk space right? Disk space, RAM and some CPU power. I understand the virtual concept. Can you point me to a faq, howto, URL? http://en.opensuse.org/An_Introduction_to_Virtualization http://en.opensuse.org/Virtualization_Resources_for_openSUSE http://en.opensuse.org/VirtualBox http://en.opensuse.org/Using_Qemu I understand the concept to run Windows stuff on Linux but why do virtual Linux on top of Linux? Doesn't make sense to me. :-) It is fun to have another distro without reboot, or test version that can make only virtual damage. Thanks again for replying. Bob S. -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Can't connect to Creative Zen MTP device
On Sunday 09 September 2007 00:12, steve wrote: Sincerely, if you ask a question and than don't follow given instructions, than that is a part of the problem. It is not a problem if you don't know what means 'run as root', problem is not to ask what that means, and insted of question just to slide into rant about bad luck with distros. Sorry for this part of my answer, I thought that it is Steven, from another mail account, but I just got his reply. -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Wireeless: Basic Configuration Help Needed
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kai Ponte wrote: On Saturday 08 September 2007 12:37, wmeler wrote: I am trying to connect to a Wireless network called Harland Network. Following up on what David said... I know I need to put the similar information somewhere under the Network Card configuation (in Yast), but not sure where. From a Windows laptop, I can connect just fine. Here is the data from that laptop: Address Type: DHCP IP: 192.168.1.104 Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway: 192.168.1.1 DHCP Server 192.168.1.1 You need to also make sure the wireless is set and active. There's two (slightly confusing) modes to choose from - traditional method (using ifup) or network manager (I use Knetworkmanager). If you have the network manager, you should have an icon in your system tray showing the network. You can right-click and it will show you the wireless networks available. Hopefully, Harland Network is in that list. You can then connect using the settings needed (WEP key). Once you've connected, you should be good to go. DNS Server: 192.168.1.1 Dude - that's MY address. No wonder you can't get in. :P Linux has a long way to go in order to make it similar to Wintendo in terms of usabilty, but in the past four years that I've been fully dedicated to it, we've made leaps and bounds. Such Modesty :-) HTH! WiFi is usually OK on the Windows platform for setting up when it is part of the bundle (e.g integrated on a laptop), but my experience with 3rd party devices under Windows has been a lot less happy. (and heaven help you with 64 bit windows). And as for maintaining a connection in a multi-AP scenario things can get pretty weird, e.g. in early stages of setting up WiFi bridge I set one AP to only accept traffic from other, but Windows insisted on attempting to connect to restricted AP even though it was further away. Network connection went up and down like a yo-yo. Linux, same hardware, no problem. I think to some extent that it is more a case of the WiFi device manufacturers needing to get their act together, there is too non-standard proprietary kit out their. (Too much A will not talk to B unless you have C ) - -- == I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone. Bjarne Stroustrup == -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG46uAasN0sSnLmgIRAtL0AJ9IfhvARtpH9g4H/uAuh4WJ53e9ZgCgjKgF AZoOhRUDp10P/WsY6GNmTHA= =8Iop -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Session locks under ASUS M2N-MX SE
On Sunday 09 September 2007 01:20, Ciro Iriarte wrote: 2007/9/8, Ciro Iriarte [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2007/9/8, Scott Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sunday, 09 September 2007 05:07:15 Ciro Iriarte wrote: Any messages on the logs around the time it locks up?, i'm running [EMAIL PROTECTED] on a M2N32-SLI without issues. Make sure it's not heating up and that your RAM sticks are not damaged (run memtest) No, nothing. memtest (when the machines stays up long enough) shows no issues with the ram. This machine is a dual-boot machine and Windows shows both cores of the CPU. Windows occassionally reboots but not as frequently as openSUSE hangs. The store where I brought the machine from says it's software problem (they ran a 17 hour test under windows and it showed no problems) though I'm not convinced. Either way though, I would like to be able to prove what the problem actually is. Thanks -- Regards Scott Newton Dunno memtest shows nothing when it hangs?, boot from the rescue disc, don't use a full blown OS to run it Make sure you have the latest bios for your MB. Ciro According to support.asus.com the latest BIOS for your MB is 0403, released on 2007/08/28 http://dlsvr01.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socketAM2/M2N-MX%20SE/M2NSE403.zip http://dlsvr02.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socketAM2/M2N-MX%20SE/M2NSE403.zip http://dlsvr03.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socketAM2/M2N-MX%20SE/M2NSE403.zip http://dlsvr04.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socketAM2/M2N-MX%20SE/M2NSE403.zip http://dlsvr05.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socketAM2/M2N-MX%20SE/M2NSE403.zip I really recommend you to run memtest from a livecd. Also check the specs of the MOBO and CPU to see the normal temperatures. Check /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature, I'm getting 40ºC on my workstation (uptime 31 days) an 48ºC on my laptop (uptime: 7 days), i'm not sure if that optimal but at least i'm running them without problems. Regards, Ciro I'm running the Asus M2V_MX and am having the same lock up problems. I think its to do with the onboard graphics card which does not seem to be supported by openchrome. My onboard graphics is the DeltaChrome (S3G) The drivers that came on the CD for SuSE linux don't work as of yet. I have tried several other drivers from the internet but still not working and SuSE insists that I have a Vesa card. Am downloading the 10.3 Beta3 right now but this will take a couple of days more. No one sharing right now. Kindest regards, Clive. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: SuSE 10.2 with ASUS motherboard
Patrick, On Thursday 06 September 2007 19:17, Patrick Shanahan wrote: * clive [EMAIL PROTECTED] [09-06-07 14:05]: Does SuSE handle PCI Express cards ? As my motherboard does not have an AGP slot onboard. Certainly, I have a nVidia 7200 PCI Express card installed in this machine. Seems like I am going to bet a PCI Express card for this machine. Thanks for the heads up. -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USAHOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535@ http://counter.li.org Kindest regards, Clive. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] list cops blaming top posts
Am Sonntag, 9. September 2007 03:02:18 schrieb Randall R Schulz: On Saturday 08 September 2007 16:53, Kai Ponte wrote: On Saturday 08 September 2007 16:46, Doug McGarrett wrote: Isn't this enough, already? What a waste of bandwidth! --doug Yeah, I agree. The limited bandwidth we have Limited bandwidth? Surely you jest. Even if every person with an Internet connection subscribed to OpenSUSE@OpenSUSE.org, this drivel would remain an infinitesimal portion of the data traffic on the Internet. Face it, all these bandwidth arguments, when applied to email lists, are utterly false. The internet traffics in digital media (audio and video) on a grand scale. A smattering of moronic yo' mamma traffic on one email distribution list is miniscule just by comparison to the spam traversing the 'Net. Uhm.. afaik we're talking about analog modem users, those with 56k or even lower, who have to wait a few minutes till they've all their mails ;) (yes they still exist) Greetings Michael signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [opensuse] compiz-fusion doesn't works !
Ciro Iriarte schreef: 0.2. The evil WinKey, as i guess you consider it, is almost in every keyboard and we all know that the logo it uses if the one of Microsoft, how should you call it? Maybe there's a market for keyboards with a penguin on those particular keys? We'd call them Linkeys :-) -- Jos van Kanregistered Linux user #152704 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] compiz-fusion doesn't works !
On Sunday 09 September 2007 12:35:13 Jos van Kan wrote: Ciro Iriarte schreef: 0.2. The evil WinKey, as i guess you consider it, is almost in every keyboard and we all know that the logo it uses if the one of Microsoft, how should you call it? Maybe there's a market for keyboards with a penguin on those particular keys? We'd call them Linkeys :-) http://www.cherrycorp.com/english/cymotion-line/cymotion-line_master_linux.htm get shopping! :) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Questions for Partitioning guru's
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Sunday 2007-09-09 at 01:30 -0400, Bob S wrote: Neither of those are the problem. The fourth primary (sda4) is the extended and all of the free space is after that. So, you have 3 primaries, one extended, and then free space, outside of the extended partition? Then that free space is lost. The extended partition most contain all the remaining space, later to be assigned to logical partitions, which may or not use all that space. It should be possible to change the extended partition size without loosing data. Some tools are able to do it, like the commercial partition magic, I think it is. Maybe there is another method in linux. But write here the output of fdisk -l /dev/sda so we can judge better. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFG486StTMYHG2NR9URAkr6AJ9EZ9LcUdZZNTTAH5FRDJLvEiz3zQCeKSEJ e5Vp1HjrwlszZzHv48Vjj40= =AM3i -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] list cops blaming top posts
may those people use webmail On 9/9/07, Michael Skiba [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Sonntag, 9. September 2007 03:02:18 schrieb Randall R Schulz: On Saturday 08 September 2007 16:53, Kai Ponte wrote: On Saturday 08 September 2007 16:46, Doug McGarrett wrote: Isn't this enough, already? What a waste of bandwidth! --doug Yeah, I agree. The limited bandwidth we have Limited bandwidth? Surely you jest. Even if every person with an Internet connection subscribed to OpenSUSE@OpenSUSE.org, this drivel would remain an infinitesimal portion of the data traffic on the Internet. Face it, all these bandwidth arguments, when applied to email lists, are utterly false. The internet traffics in digital media (audio and video) on a grand scale. A smattering of moronic yo' mamma traffic on one email distribution list is miniscule just by comparison to the spam traversing the 'Net. Uhm.. afaik we're talking about analog modem users, those with 56k or even lower, who have to wait a few minutes till they've all their mails ;) (yes they still exist) Greetings Michael -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Gnome version of YAST vs KDE version
Just wondering... why is it that the Gnome version of YAST is so dramatically different from the KDE one in openSUSE 10.3 Beta3? I haven't used Gnome on SUSE in a very long time, but I don't remember YAST being any different between KDE and Gnome in previous versions. The Gnome version of YAST is unwieldy and hard to use - not that the KDE one is a good example, but it is certainly much much better than the Gnome one. Isn't it a bit of a major usability issue if the core tools that set SUSE apart from all the other distributions are so inconsistent/different? Also.. who thought that the Gnome version of YAST software installer is a good thing? Was it actually tested with users? Does anyone else find it to be a very poor UI design? C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] list cops blaming top posts
Am Sonntag, 9. September 2007 14:07:55 schrieb Druid: may those people use webmail you disqualified yourself for getting an answer :) Everyone else feel free to ask the same question ;) Greetings Michael signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [opensuse] list cops blaming top posts
* Michael Skiba [EMAIL PROTECTED] [09-09-07 08:54]: you disqualified yourself for getting an answer :) s/answer/breathing/ Everyone else feel free to ask the same question ;) :^) -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USAHOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535@ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Gnome version of YAST vs KDE version
On 9/9/07, Clayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wondering... why is it that the Gnome version of YAST is so dramatically different from the KDE one in openSUSE 10.3 Beta3? My oppinion, based on historic observations, says that the reason for that is simply because they like to change the stuff, just for the sake of saying they changed, without absolutely any reason (may the flames begin, I know). If I recall correctly the justification was to have the stuff in gtk in gnome. But see, kde was forced to have gnome/gtk stuff on it, and nobody complained. The zmd applet, for example. But it seems no, they (the gnome people) couldnt have yast qt, no that would be too much, its impossible, cant be accepted. No, they need to be different, they are special. I haven't used Gnome on SUSE in a very long time, but I don't remember YAST being any different between KDE and Gnome in previous versions. It wasnt The Gnome version of YAST is unwieldy and hard to use 100% agreed - not that the KDE one is a good example, 100% agreed but it is certainly much much better than the Gnome one. 100% agreed Isn't it a bit of a major usability issue if the core tools that set SUSE apart from all the other distributions are so inconsistent/different? Yes, but as Ive said the gnome people want to make it different at all costs. Also.. who thought that the Gnome version of YAST software installer is a good thing? I really dunno. Its really one of the most terrible app screens I have ever seen Was it actually tested with users? Does anyone else find it to be a very poor UI design? I really dont know, but I would be surprised if it was tested by humans. All that said, does it really matter? Everybody uses kde with qt interface in yast in opensuse. Since you expressed your feelings about it, my advice is dont use the yast gtk version for the sw_single module and dont use gnome. That way you will never see it again, only the qt version, which I think will solve your problems, mostly. best regards Marcio --- Druid -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Gnome version of YAST vs KDE version
On Sunday 09 September 2007 14:39:03 Clayton wrote: Just wondering... why is it that the Gnome version of YAST is so dramatically different from the KDE one in openSUSE 10.3 Beta3? It was designed to be similar to the gnome control center I haven't used Gnome on SUSE in a very long time, but I don't remember YAST being any different between KDE and Gnome in previous versions. The Gnome version of YAST is unwieldy and hard to use - not that the KDE one is a good example, but it is certainly much much better than the Gnome one. There was no gnome version of YaST in the past, so that is why there was no difference :) Isn't it a bit of a major usability issue if the core tools that set SUSE apart from all the other distributions are so inconsistent/different? It is consistent with gnome, I guess that was the idea Also.. who thought that the Gnome version of YAST software installer is a good thing? Was it actually tested with users? Does anyone else find it to be a very poor UI design? I'm not sure which one you are thinking of. The one I've seen is very similar to what is in other gnome based distros, like ubuntu. No, I don't like it either, but gnome users seem to like it -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Gnome version of YAST vs KDE version
On Sunday 09 September 2007 15:00:47 Druid wrote: If I recall correctly the justification was to have the stuff in gtk in gnome. But see, kde was forced to have gnome/gtk stuff on it, and nobody complained. The zmd applet, for example. People did complain, which is why we have opensuse-updater today -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Gnome version of YAST vs KDE version
On Sunday 09 September 2007 15:26:40 Druid wrote: On 9/9/07, Anders Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 09 September 2007 15:00:47 Druid wrote: If I recall correctly the justification was to have the stuff in gtk in gnome. But see, kde was forced to have gnome/gtk stuff on it, and nobody complained. The zmd applet, for example. People did complain, which is why we have opensuse-updater today But my point is still valid. They didnt have a problem in throwing a gtk version in kde environment, but when it was the opposite situation it was the horror, oh oh, cry cry Your point is not valid. People did complain about having a gtk app in kde, which is why it was replaced -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Gnome version of YAST vs KDE version
I quite like the look of the QT version of YaST. It certainly a much closer match to the console version, which is something I find myself using more than the GUI version. Therein stands my point. The CLI version and the QT version are close enough in layout and style to be effectively the same. Walking through one or the other, you are in familiar territory. Then you fire up Gnome expecting consistent tools... and you're faced with that dogs breakfast mess of YAST. There is ZERO consistency. That is plain dumb. Consistency is critical in the interfaces that make SUSE stand out. Since you expressed your feelings about it, my advice is dont use the yast gtk version for the sw_single module and dont use gnome. That way you will never see it again, only the qt version, which I think will solve your problems, mostly. Fine, but... Gnome is as much a part of openSUSE as KDE is. I think that even though I choose to use KDE at home (I have to use Gnome at work), I have a responsibility to at least be familiar with Gnome as Novell packages it. When things looks stupider than usual in Gnome I also think I should speak up... and YAST in 10.3 is really poor. It is a regression... a step backwards in usability... then again... that's par for the course for anything Gnome so I guess it's to be expected. Still... I am quite disappointed in where we are taking Gnome in openSUSE. This new YAST is not an improvement... fine, base it on GTK.. I don't mind, but for God's sake, do some usability testing... and put some thought into the fact that change for the sake of change is wrong. And making the software installer so radically different between KDE and Gnome makes my job supporting openSUSE a total nightmare. I used to be able to walk the users through things like the software management part without having to worry about whether they liked Gnome or KDE, or were stuck with the text version of YAST... it was all basically the same. Now? Now, it's a mess. A real mess. I even tried the various other views... and they were worse than the default flat view. Basically... I'd like to smack someone and ask What were you thinking??? :-( C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Gnome version of YAST vs KDE version
On 9/9/07, Anders Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 09 September 2007 15:00:47 Druid wrote: If I recall correctly the justification was to have the stuff in gtk in gnome. But see, kde was forced to have gnome/gtk stuff on it, and nobody complained. The zmd applet, for example. People did complain, which is why we have opensuse-updater today But my point is still valid. They didnt have a problem in throwing a gtk version in kde environment, but when it was the opposite situation it was the horror, oh oh, cry cry -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Gnome version of YAST vs KDE version
On Sun, 9 Sep 2007, Druid wrote:- On 9/9/07, Clayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wondering... why is it that the Gnome version of YAST is so dramatically different from the KDE one in openSUSE 10.3 Beta3? My oppinion, based on historic observations, says that the reason for that is simply because they like to change the stuff, just for the sake of saying they changed, without absolutely any reason (may the flames begin, I know). You want matches or a lighter to start them off? :) snip The Gnome version of YAST is unwieldy and hard to use 100% agreed I don't completely agree. I actually like the package management part of the YaST under Gnome. As for the rest of it, I've not dug too deeply but, from my initial impression, I still don't like it. Mind you, I'm probably a little biased since I just don't like the look of the Gnome desktop anyway. - not that the KDE one is a good example, 100% agreed I quite like the look of the QT version of YaST. It certainly a much closer match to the console version, which is something I find myself using more than the GUI version. but it is certainly much much better than the Gnome one. 100% agreed Well, apart from the package management, I agree with that. Isn't it a bit of a major usability issue if the core tools that set SUSE apart from all the other distributions are so inconsistent/different? Yes, but as Ive said the gnome people want to make it different at all costs. Bit more tinder :) snip All that said, does it really matter? Everybody uses kde with qt interface in yast in opensuse. Not quite. I actually prefer the console version. It seems a little quicker and, with the exception of a few features available to the GUI version[0], is virtually the same. Since you expressed your feelings about it, my advice is dont use the yast gtk version for the sw_single module and dont use gnome. That way you will never see it again, only the qt version, which I think will solve your problems, mostly. That's certainly one way round it. Regards, David Bolt -- Member of Team Acorn checking nodes at 100 Mnodes/s: www.distributed.net RISC OS 3.11 | SUSE 10.0 32bit | SUSE 10.1 32bit | openSUSE 10.2 32bit RISC OS 3.6 | SUSE 10.0 64bit | SUSE 10.1 64bit | openSUSE 10.2 64bit TOS 4.02 | SUSE 9.3 32bit | | openSUSE 10.3b2 32bit -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Gnome version of YAST vs KDE version
Your point is not valid. People did complain about having a gtk app in kde, which is why it was replaced The point is valid. The reason they created a gtk version of yast was because they wouldnt accept using a qt app in gnome. By the same logic, there shouldnt be the gtk applet in kde from the beginning. That if they would care about that, which they didnt. Only after it was already there, they thought of making a qt version, but as an enhancement, that wasnt considered a blocker or a big deal (it was considered by the users, it seems). -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Intel 965G and 1680 x 1050
On Sunday 09 September 2007, roN wrote: Hi, Has anyone gotten a resolution of 1680 x 1050 out of an intel 965G chipset? I'm looking for that, out of the box, my opensuse 10.2 only offers 1280 x 1024 which looks somehow wrong...I would appreciate if some one could help me in a way getting my x-server to display 1680 x 1050 pixel on my screen. Thank you! Ron -- chEErs Ron Hi Ron, I don't know if this will work for you or not, but it was a neat solution to problems like this. I'm not sure if xorg fully supports that chipset and if not, I think Intel has a driver for Linux on their site. Try this first though. In your xorg.conf file go to: DefaultDepth 24 Subsection Display Depth 8 Modes 1280x1024 1024x768 800x600 640x480 EndSubsection Subsection Display Depth 16 Modes 1280x1024 1024x768 800x600 640x480 EndSubsection Subsection Display Depth 24 Modes 1280x1024 1024x768 800x600 640x480 EndSubsection Subsection Display Depth 32 Modes 1280x1024 1024x768 800x600 640x480 EndSubsection EndSection Now just add your 1680x1050 resolution in front of each that begins with 1280x1024. Restart your X and see what you have. Don't forget to make a backup of your xorg.conf file too. The above is from mine, so yours may look a bit different. regards, Lee -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Gnome version of YAST vs KDE version
Druid [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Your point is not valid. People did complain about having a gtk app in kde, which is why it was replaced The point is valid. The reason they created a gtk version of yast was because they wouldnt accept using a qt app in gnome. By the same logic, there shouldnt be the gtk applet in kde from the beginning. That if they would care about that, which they didnt. Only after it was already there, they thought of making a qt version, but as an enhancement, that wasnt considered a blocker or a big deal (it was considered by the users, it seems). Developing another frontend takes time - and if you have the choice between fixing the stack or adding extra functionality, you will concentrate on fixing the stack. That's at least what we did. I don't think it makes sense insulting others here and I ask you to stop these, it does not bring us anywhere, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpi8DZWI62vy.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] Gnome version of YAST vs KDE version
On Sunday 09 September 2007 16:19:33 Druid wrote: Your point is not valid. People did complain about having a gtk app in kde, which is why it was replaced The point is valid. The reason they created a gtk version of yast was because they wouldnt accept using a qt app in gnome. Actually no. It was a google summer of code project. Not a blocker bug that had to be fixed By the same logic, there shouldnt be the gtk applet in kde from the beginning. That if they would care about that, which they didnt. Only after it was already there, they thought of making a qt version, but as an enhancement, that wasnt considered a blocker or a big deal (it was considered by the users, it seems). I don't quite see how you reason. There was a qt application (yast2) in gnome. People wanted a gtk/gnome version, so someone wrote it and now it gets used. Similarly, there was a gtk application in kde (the updater applet). People wanted a kde version so someone wrote it and now it gets used. I see absolutely no difference at all (except perhaps that yast2/qt was used for far longer in gnome before someone bothered writing a gnome/gtk frontend for it) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Intel 965G and 1680 x 1050
On Sun, 2007-09-09 at 10:27 -0400, BandiPat wrote: On Sunday 09 September 2007, roN wrote: Hi, Has anyone gotten a resolution of 1680 x 1050 out of an intel 965G chipset? I'm looking for that, out of the box, my opensuse 10.2 only offers 1280 x 1024 which looks somehow wrong...I would appreciate if some one could help me in a way getting my x-server to display 1680 x 1050 pixel on my screen. Thank you! Ron -- chEErs Ron Hi Ron, I don't know if this will work for you or not, but it was a neat solution to problems like this. I'm not sure if xorg fully supports that chipset and if not, I think Intel has a driver for Linux on their site. Try this first though. In your xorg.conf file go to: DefaultDepth 24 Subsection Display Depth 8 Modes 1280x1024 1024x768 800x600 640x480 EndSubsection Subsection Display Depth 16 Modes 1280x1024 1024x768 800x600 640x480 EndSubsection Subsection Display Depth 24 Modes 1280x1024 1024x768 800x600 640x480 EndSubsection Subsection Display Depth 32 Modes 1280x1024 1024x768 800x600 640x480 EndSubsection EndSection Now just add your 1680x1050 resolution in front of each that begins with 1280x1024. Restart your X and see what you have. Don't forget to make a backup of your xorg.conf file too. The above is from mine, so yours may look a bit different. regards, Lee You also need to supply a line in the Section Modes area as well. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Gnome version of YAST vs KDE version
Anders Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] Isn't it more important to have internal consistency in the desktop you're using? I think the gnome frontend to yast is quite similar to the gnome control center, which means gnome users should feel at home in it There are two different things: The yast control center - which is indeed similiar to the GNOME one - and the YaST Gtk modules. The YaST2 Gtk modules are similiar to the Qt modules with one major exception: The package manager. Documentation wise it's a challenge with such differences. Wanting something that looks more natural is on side, changing the interface in such a way that people have to learn a new one is the challenge and that was done in the package manager. On the other hand I do think that different interfaces show where problems exist and I would like to see both evolve to be consistent and usuable, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpqvwk94Vm5V.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] Gnome version of YAST vs KDE version
On Sunday 09 September 2007 15:52:00 Clayton wrote: I quite like the look of the QT version of YaST. It certainly a much closer match to the console version, which is something I find myself using more than the GUI version. Therein stands my point. The CLI version and the QT version are close enough in layout and style to be effectively the same. Walking through one or the other, you are in familiar territory. Then you fire up Gnome expecting consistent tools... and you're faced with that dogs breakfast mess of YAST. There is ZERO consistency. That is plain dumb. Consistency is critical in the interfaces that make SUSE stand out. Isn't it more important to have internal consistency in the desktop you're using? I think the gnome frontend to yast is quite similar to the gnome control center, which means gnome users should feel at home in it No, I don't particularly care for the gnome look-and-feel either, but I do appreciate consistency. I don't want applications in my kde desktop with reversed cancel/ok buttons, even if they were originally written for gnome -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Gnome version of YAST vs KDE version
On Sunday 09 September 2007 06:52, Clayton wrote: Still... I am quite disappointed in where we are taking Gnome in openSUSE. This new YAST is not an improvement... fine, base it on GTK.. I don't mind, but for God's sake, do some usability testing... That doesn't occur in GNOME-land. Just look at the file open/save dialog boxes. Case closed. -- kai ponte www.perfectreign.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] compiz-fusion doesn't works !
Alexey Eremenko schrieb: hi susers ! I have installed compiz-fusion, with ccsm I have configured ring switcher, but when I press WinKey+F12 nothing happens ! Why ? Normal compiz works via XGL, but compiz-fusion extensions do not work ! System: openSUSE 10.3 BETA3, x86. nVidia GeForce FX 5200, with NVIDIA 100 drivers. Hi Alexey, I suppose, that only compiz is loaded without the ccp switch. Try 'compiz ccp --replace ' in an KDE or Gnome console. Then try some of your plugins. Btw. does anybody know where theses settings are stored, I can't find any helpful documentation and to make things worse, compiz is permanently 'whitecubing' after I reboot my computer. Kind regards, Tom -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] list cops blaming top posts
I'd like to remind everybody of our mailing list netiquette: http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_mailing_list_netiquette The goal of openSUSE is to create the best Linux distribution and to spread Linux. If you do not want to work together in a team and instead keep insulting each other, do it elsewhere, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpmDHgXiNKFC.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] compiz-fusion doesn't works !
On 9/9/07, Thomas Meindl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suppose, that only compiz is loaded without the ccp switch. Try 'compiz ccp --replace ' in an KDE or Gnome console. Then try some of your plugins. That should be compiz --replace ccp Btw. does anybody know where theses settings are stored, I can't find ~/.config/compiz if you are using ccp and flat-file backend in ccsm. any helpful documentation and to make things worse, compiz is permanently 'whitecubing' after I reboot my computer. Use Xgl, you shouldn't see white cube, remove any compiz autostart script you may have. Ciao -J -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Gnome version of YAST vs KDE version
On Sunday 09 September 2007 07:39, Clayton wrote: Just wondering... why is it that the Gnome version of YAST is so dramatically different from the KDE one in openSUSE 10.3 Beta3? I haven't used Gnome on SUSE in a very long time, but I don't remember YAST being any different between KDE and Gnome in previous versions. The Gnome version of YAST is unwieldy and hard to use - not that the KDE one is a good example, but it is certainly much much better than the Gnome one. Isn't it a bit of a major usability issue if the core tools that set SUSE apart from all the other distributions are so inconsistent/different? Actually difference alone is not usability issue. It is more opportunity to see different approach, give it a time, ... Also.. who thought that the Gnome version of YAST software installer is a good thing? Was it actually tested with users? ... test it, make opinion on particular soultions, propose/vote for better offer. Nothing is set in stone. General complaint I don't like (because I'm not used to it) is what we hear from Windows users often. It is not helpful, can't bring anything forward except endles discussion who likes what. Does anyone else find it to be a very poor UI design? Not in every respect, for sure. Icons I don't like, but with limited number of pixels, rules about style and usability designer have no many options left. The most annoying about icons is that I have to read the text to find out what they are about. That is another effect of small sizes; too many are similar. On the other side I like Gtk Control Center with all modules listed, so if I need one, just scroll and use it. No more multiple clicks to reach the target. No multiple lines to explain in a mail how to reach some function, just name it and it will be found. Should I say that in Windows XP first thing I do in 'Control panel' is to switch to classic style. I would like to see every module to implement the same idea. Default screen simple for novices, advanced options grouped in as big chunks as reasonable, dangerous ones, another click separated from the rest. The Qt GUI is designed to be similar to the text mode, but it doesn't work the same way. For instance Control Center: In text mode, in left pane, you move highlight using cursor keys up and down, then when you want to jump to right pane cursor-right, and than again up and down to select module. In GUI you can't jump to the right pane using cursor keys. This is one small example of differences, that doesn't bug us as we are used to them, but they exist. BTW, thank you to bring up this topic. -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] GRUB gfxmenu editing?
I'm having problems getting a new /boot/message file to work. I unpacked the old one with cpio, changed the back.jpg, repacked it all, recreated initrd and all I could think of. At reboot, I get the graphic menu, but the image doesn't turn up, it's all black instead. Any ideas on where I may gone wrong, or perhaps a link to a good how-to on the subject? Anders. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] xen install problem of 10.3 beta 3 on 10.2 system
Can I assume that installing OpenSuSE 10.3 Beta 3 64bit as a domU on a
openSuse 10.2 works just fine for everyone out there ?
I still can't even do a test install of it.
On Sat, 2007-09-08 at 04:18 -0400, Peter Sjoberg wrote:
I downloaded the 10.3 x86_64bit dvd and was going to add a new domU on
my 10.2 system but nothing seems to work.
I have a OpenSuse 10.2 x86_64 AMD AM2 system running xen. Installing
10.2 domU works ok when done over network or iso image but I can't even
get the install to start when trying 10.3 beta 3.
Network install:
I loopback mount the .iso on a different system and export it.
I set the custom installation source url to point to it and hit next
Popup that no kernel found
Mount the same nfs on dom0 and can see /mnt/boot/x86_64/vmlinuz-xen
test the same thing with 10.2 dvd and that works.
ISO:
set iso install path to openSUSE-10.3-Beta3-DVD-x86_64.iso
after a few pop-up windows I get the same kernel error as on network
but can't cancel out of it properly, have to start yast2 xen all over
copying {vmlinuz,initrd]-xen from image somewhere else and use them as
a non-suse install
it starts up and I get a window where the boot up gets going but then
it hangs.
Besides the installation source everything else is left at defaults
What am I doing wrong ?(hope it's not expecting to much)
I would expect installing a 10.3 domU on a 10.2 system would be a common
thing so if it's a bug I expect it to be some noise about it.
What can I do to install a 10.3 domU ?
/ps
The end of the install that hangs shows:
PNP: No PS/2 controller found. Probing ports directly.
i8042.c: No controller found.
mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice
NET: Registered protocol family 1
XENBUS: Device with no driver: device/vbd/768
XENBUS: Device with no driver: device/vbd/832
XENBUS: Device with no driver: device/vif/0
Freeing unused kernel memory: 188k freed
Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00alpha2
ide: Assuming 50MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with
idebus=xx/öps
SCSI subsystem initialized
st: Version 20070203, fixed bufsize 32768, s/g segs 256
BIOS EDD facility v0.16 2004-Jun-25, 0 devices found
EDD information not available.
NET: Registered protocol family 17
loop: module loaded
xen-vbd: registered block device major 3
blkfront: hda: barriers enabled
hda: unknown partition table
blkfront: hdb: barriers enabled
hdb: unknown partition table
netfront: Initialising virtual ethernet driver.
netfront: device eth0 has flipping receive path.
squashfs: version 3.2-r2 (2007/01/15) Phillip Lougher
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Re: [opensuse] GRUB gfxmenu editing?
Anders Norrbring [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm having problems getting a new /boot/message file to work. I unpacked the old one with cpio, changed the back.jpg, repacked it all, recreated initrd and all I could think of. At reboot, I get the graphic menu, but the image doesn't turn up, it's all black instead. Any ideas on where I may gone wrong, or perhaps a link to a good how-to on the subject? What is the size of your jpg? AFAIK there's a size limit of 35k, so try to shrink it (lower jpg level), Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpQtwbLSYG3d.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] Can't connect to Creative Zen MTP device
On Sat, Sep 08, 2007 at 08:02:39PM -0700, Steven Cai wrote: I have a Creative Zen V Plus mp3 player, which is an MTP device, and can't get SUSE to detect it. Konqueror recognizes that there is a device mounted, but can't determine what it is. Meanwhile, both Amarok and gnomad2 complain that they cannot detect the mp3 player. I have the libmtp library installed, and some other relevant libraries. If anybody can offer any suggestions on getting this thing to work, I'd appreciate it. Please mention any other libraries you think I might need, I believe I have all the necessary ones but it can't hurt to check. run: gphoto2 -L it should list files. The libmtp package has various commandline tools. The gphoto2 suite can handle MTP players, also Amarok can handle them. Ciao, Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Intel 965G and 1680 x 1050
roN wrote: On Sunday 09 September 2007 07:41:06 am Kenneth Schneider wrote: On Sun, 2007-09-09 at 10:27 -0400, BandiPat wrote: On Sunday 09 September 2007, roN wrote: Hi, Has anyone gotten a resolution of 1680 x 1050 out of an intel 965G chipset? I'm looking for that, out of the box, my opensuse 10.2 only offers 1280 x 1024 which looks somehow wrong...I would appreciate if some one could help me in a way getting my x-server to display 1680 x 1050 pixel on my screen. Thank you! Ron -- snip) Don't know how to add a line for 1680x1050. It looks like sync rates to me i guess i need to find a manual for my screen acer AL2216W. Right? For what should i look in there? Thanks! Wait *Stop* *Read* http://www.geocities.com/stomljen/ I have been through this in great detail and with great pain with opensuse 10.0. (see http://lists.freedesktop.org/pipermail/xorg/2007-April/023179.html) You are *very* luck to be running 10.2 because the 10.2 kernel will support 1680x1050 resolution natively and you will be spared the learning experience of having to build X, Mesa, and Dri/Drm from source. (see http://intellinuxgraphics.org/) The bottom line for you is a 3 step process(qualified with an I'm pretty sure speaking only from 10.0 experience): (1) you will need to download or install from Yast the 915resolution tool; (2) you will follow the instructions to patch a video mode in your video card for 1680x1050 resolution; and (3) you will make the xorg.conf changes required and then restart X. Your 10.2 install and kernel should then provide 1680x1050 resolution without having to hack and compile anything else. The steps 1,2 and 3 above will require you to manually patch your video card BIOS and manually edit several config files. Yast will not be involved int he process. Good luck, it will work for you and, if my process doesn't on first try, then the links provided will give you the required information to get the job done. -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 (936) 715-9333 (936) 715-9339 fax www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] compiz-fusion doesn't works !
CyberOrg wrote: That should be compiz --replace ccp Both works AFAIK :) Use Xgl, you shouldn't see white cube, remove any compiz autostart script you may have. Ciao -J I have Xgl enabled and absolutely no compiz autostart script. I.e. in fact, that I only use 'gnome-xgl-settings --enable-xgl', the NVidia driver 100.14.09 and a freshly created user account.After rebooting, I see first the KDE desktop, but after a few seconds the white cube appears. Thanks a lot for the reply, Tom -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] GRUB gfxmenu editing?
Andreas Jaeger skrev: Anders Norrbring [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm having problems getting a new /boot/message file to work. I unpacked the old one with cpio, changed the back.jpg, repacked it all, recreated initrd and all I could think of. At reboot, I get the graphic menu, but the image doesn't turn up, it's all black instead. Any ideas on where I may gone wrong, or perhaps a link to a good how-to on the subject? What is the size of your jpg? AFAIK there's a size limit of 35k, so try to shrink it (lower jpg level), Actually it was 30 bytes smaller than the original one, but I'll retry it again. Thanks for the tip. Anders -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] compiz-fusion doesn't works !
Can you give us output of your xorg.conf? Do you have the following options: Option AddARGBGLXVisuals True Option DisableGLXRootClipping True Also please give output of: rpm -qa | grep xgl Thanks On Sunday 09 September 2007 11:06:08 am Thomas Meindl wrote: CyberOrg wrote: That should be compiz --replace ccp Both works AFAIK :) Use Xgl, you shouldn't see white cube, remove any compiz autostart script you may have. Ciao -J I have Xgl enabled and absolutely no compiz autostart script. I.e. in fact, that I only use 'gnome-xgl-settings --enable-xgl', the NVidia driver 100.14.09 and a freshly created user account.After rebooting, I see first the KDE desktop, but after a few seconds the white cube appears. Thanks a lot for the reply, Tom -- How much can you know about yourself, you've never been in a fight? I don't wanna die without any scars. So come on; hit me -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Fwd: Re: [opensuse] Questions for Partitioning guru's]
(Sorry Bob, first version did only go to you and bounced) On Sat, 2007-09-08 at 00:49 -0400, Bob S wrote: Hello SuSE people, This is especially for you guys/gals that run 3or 4 os's on a big hard drive. How do you handle the primary and extended partitions? Other people already answered so I skip some redundant answers. Is the /home as safe residing in the extended partition? you can have it wherever you like but you need to be careful with what you do in regards to usage of it. For example, say that you boot 10.2, mount /home, login as user bob and start up misc programs like kde/gnome/mailer etc. That creates lots of new files in /home/bob Well, 10.3 is out so lets try it, you install it, use same /home and login as bob. Your old desktop is now migrated to latest version. You reboot back to 10.2 and suddenly your email/IM/xchat/whatever doesn't work because it's config files where changed for the newer version and the old version gets confused/bails out. My way of handling that is that I have different users and copy around data so I only migrate to newer versions and never back. How do you manage to run 3 or 4 os variants on just 4 primary partitions? Remember that it's only M$ win that requires primary partition and everything will be much easier Love to hear your individual strategies. Besides what the other posts said I didn't see anyone with a setup similar to mine. I'm using 3 disk (was using 5 for a while, 3 ide 2 sata) and at my peak I had MS Win, opensuse 10.0, 10.1, suse desktop beta and 2 versions Mandrake installed. You could do something like: disk1p1 M$ Win disk1p2 /boot # 200Mb common boot for everyone disk1p3 swap# swap common to everyone disk1p5 / # everyday Linux 1 (one you can fall back to) disk1p6 / # everyday Linux 2 (one you plan to move to) disk1p8 LVM disk2p1 LVM disk3p1 LVM LVM: collection of all partitions marked LVM (=all disks become one huge virtual disk) homelv # common home dir for all installs (see note above) datalv # common data like install packages, mp3, movies etc NLDlv # root partition for NLD testing SLESlv # root partition for SLES testing fclv# root partition for fedora testing I normally don't put the root partition on LVM because it makes it harder to recover (hard to get to single user mode when the lvm needs fixing) but with multiple OS installed you can always boot some other os to fix it. I love lvm since it's so flexible, if you for example run low in space in datalv you can just expand it without playing around with disk partitions (=much safer) and you can even add a new disk and expand it without problem. If I need to replace a disk with a bigger one/remove one I can use a single pvmove /dev/hdb to move data around and get it done without tons of repartition and fs moves. One thing is that since /boot and /boot/grub/menu.lst is common for all installs you need to manually manage that area. I found that each os version have there own version numbering like vmlinuz-2.6.18.8-0.5-default/initrd-2.6.18.8-0.5-default so there is no conflict but they normally replace /boot/grub/menu.lst so I make sure I have a copy of menu.lst somewhere and then I manually merge the old and new menu.lst after each install. Anxiously awaiting the final 10.3 so I can try Compiz-Fusion, Beryl whatever and be able to fall back to 10.2 when I screw it up. I'm also waiting for 10.3 final but you can do as me and start playing with Beta 3 to get a feel for it and report problems (or you may have to report same problem on the final because everyone assumed someone else already tested and reported it) Bob S. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Intel 965G and 1680 x 1050
On Sunday 09 September 2007 10:31:16 am David C. Rankin wrote: roN wrote: On Sunday 09 September 2007 07:41:06 am Kenneth Schneider wrote: On Sun, 2007-09-09 at 10:27 -0400, BandiPat wrote: On Sunday 09 September 2007, roN wrote: Hi, Has anyone gotten a resolution of 1680 x 1050 out of an intel 965G chipset? I'm looking for that, out of the box, my opensuse 10.2 only offers 1280 x 1024 which looks somehow wrong...I would appreciate if some one could help me in a way getting my x-server to display 1680 x 1050 pixel on my screen. Thank you! Ron -- snip) Don't know how to add a line for 1680x1050. It looks like sync rates to me i guess i need to find a manual for my screen acer AL2216W. Right? For what should i look in there? Thanks! Wait *Stop* *Read* http://www.geocities.com/stomljen/ I have been through this in great detail and with great pain with opensuse 10.0. (see http://lists.freedesktop.org/pipermail/xorg/2007-April/023179.html) You are *very* luck to be running 10.2 because the 10.2 kernel will support 1680x1050 resolution natively and you will be spared the learning experience of having to build X, Mesa, and Dri/Drm from source. (see http://intellinuxgraphics.org/) The bottom line for you is a 3 step process(qualified with an I'm pretty sure speaking only from 10.0 experience): (1) you will need to download or install from Yast the 915resolution tool; (2) you will follow the instructions to patch a video mode in your video card for 1680x1050 resolution; and (3) you will make the xorg.conf changes required and then restart X. Your 10.2 install and kernel should then provide 1680x1050 resolution without having to hack and compile anything else. The steps 1,2 and 3 above will require you to manually patch your video card BIOS and manually edit several config files. Yast will not be involved int he process. Good luck, it will work for you and, if my process doesn't on first try, then the links provided will give you the required information to get the job done. Okay, David, Thanks alot for this but i stumble over the first stones already :o (1) Okay, I've installed 915resolution tool with Yast (actually it already has been installed) (2) I try to patch my xorg with instructions posted on http://www.geocities.com/stomljen/. it says Option ForceBIOS 1024x768=1400x1050 This will re-program the old 1024x768 to become a new 1400x1050 one. but I can't find a section driver where i'm supposed to place this option. So I just crearted it myself on the bottom i wrote: Section driver ForceBIOS 1024x768=1400x1050 EndSection (3) I excitedly restarted X and it said: waitting for X server to shut down Free Font Path: FPE /usr/share/fonts/misc:unscaled refcount is 2, should be 1; finxing. - so i made a startx and i was told: Fatal server error: no screens found XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X Server :0.0 after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining. - okay no way i can start it like this so i launched sax2 and i got a bunch of error messages after i saved a working configuration and sax closed: Parse error on line 207 of secton driver in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf driver is not a valid section name. Problem when parsing config file. Isax could not import file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf at /usr/sbin/isax line 171. So i'm stuck here and i don't know further can you (or anybody else) may help me? It would be appreciated! Thank you! Ron -- chEErs Ron -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] What USB Webcamera to use with OpenSUSE10.2 ?
Hi list, - my daughter (12 years) is using KDE/kopete extensively. - for her birthday coming up, I'd buy her a webcam to use with Kopete. - any hints, what should I go for? -- - Med venlig hilsen/Best regards Verner Kjærsgaard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] compiz-fusion doesn't works !
Ben Kevan schrieb: Can you give us output of your xorg.conf? Please have a look at the end of the mail, Do you have the following options: Option AddARGBGLXVisuals True Option DisableGLXRootClipping True No, I didn't switch on any options, but I'll try this immediately, Also please give output of: rpm -qa | grep xgl Output is the following: xgl-hardware-list-060526-75 xgl-git_070104-68 I also tried the original versions from openSUSE 10.3beta2, then the versions from http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/X11:/XGL/SUSE_Factory/ and at last the fresh install of beta3, and all of them resulted into the white cube. A Alt-F2 and a blindly typed 'compiz ccp --replace' restored it in KDE. Thanks Well, indeed thank you :) Tom xorg.conf: # /.../ # SaX generated X11 config file # Created on: 2007-09-06T19:35:31+0200. # # Version: 8.1 # Contact: Marcus Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED], 2005 # Contact: SaX-User list https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/sax-users # # Automatically generated by [ISaX] (8.1) # PLEASE DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE! # Section Files FontPath /usr/share/fonts/misc:unscaled FontPath /usr/share/fonts/local FontPath /usr/share/fonts/75dpi:unscaled FontPath /usr/share/fonts/100dpi:unscaled FontPath /usr/share/fonts/Type1 FontPath /usr/share/fonts/URW FontPath /usr/share/fonts/Speedo FontPath /usr/share/fonts/PEX FontPath /usr/share/fonts/cyrillic FontPath /usr/share/fonts/latin2/misc:unscaled FontPath /usr/share/fonts/latin2/75dpi:unscaled FontPath /usr/share/fonts/latin2/100dpi:unscaled FontPath /usr/share/fonts/latin2/Type1 FontPath /usr/share/fonts/latin7/75dpi:unscaled FontPath /usr/share/fonts/baekmuk:unscaled FontPath /usr/share/fonts/japanese:unscaled FontPath /usr/share/fonts/kwintv FontPath /usr/share/fonts/truetype FontPath /usr/share/fonts/uni:unscaled FontPath /usr/share/fonts/CID FontPath /usr/share/fonts/ucs/misc:unscaled FontPath /usr/share/fonts/ucs/75dpi:unscaled FontPath /usr/share/fonts/ucs/100dpi:unscaled FontPath /usr/share/fonts/hellas/misc:unscaled FontPath /usr/share/fonts/hellas/75dpi:unscaled FontPath /usr/share/fonts/hellas/100dpi:unscaled FontPath /usr/share/fonts/hellas/Type1 FontPath /usr/share/fonts/misc/sgi:unscaled FontPath /usr/share/fonts/xtest FontPath /opt/kde3/share/fonts InputDevices /dev/gpmdata InputDevices /dev/input/mice EndSection Section ServerFlags Option AllowMouseOpenFail on EndSection Section Module Load glx Load type1 Load extmod Load dbe Load freetype EndSection Section InputDevice Driver kbd Identifier Keyboard[0] Option Protocol Standard Option XkbLayout de Option XkbModel microsoftprousb Option XkbRules xfree86 Option XkbVariant nodeadkeys EndSection Section InputDevice Driver evdev Identifier Mouse[1] Option Buttons 20 Option Product 0xc041 Option SendCoreEvents on Option Vendor 0x046d Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 EndSection Section Monitor Option CalcAlgorithm XServerPool DisplaySize 752 301 HorizSync30-83 Identifier Monitor[0] ModelNameJC198D Option DPMS VendorName HSD VertRefresh 43-76 UseModes Modes[0] EndSection Section Modes Identifier Modes[0] Modeline 1280x1024 108 1280 1328 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync EndSection Section Screen DefaultDepth 24 SubSection Display Depth 15 Modes 1280x1024 1280x960 1152x864 1024x768 800x600 EndSubSection SubSection Display Depth 16 Modes 1280x1024 1280x960 1152x864 1024x768 800x600 EndSubSection SubSection Display Depth 24 Modes 1280x1024 1280x960 1152x864 1024x768 800x600 EndSubSection SubSection Display Depth 8 Modes 1280x1024 1280x960 1152x864 1024x768 800x600 EndSubSection Device Device[0] Identifier Screen[0] Monitor Monitor[0] EndSection Section Device BoardNameGeForce 7600 GS BusID3:0:0 Driver nvidia Identifier Device[0] Option SaXDualHead Option TwinView Option SaXDualMonitorVendor HSD Option SecondMonitorHorizSync 30-83 Option SaXDualVSync 50-76 Option usevnc no Option MetaModes 1280x1024,1280x1024;1280x960,1280x960;1152x864,1152x864;1024x768,1024x768;800x600,800x600 Option SaXDualOrientation RightOf Option SaXDualResolution 1280x1024 Option TwinViewOrientation RightOf Option SaXDualMode Xinerama Option SecondMonitorVertRefresh 50-76 Option SaXDualHSync 30-83 Option SaXDualMonitorModel JC198D Screen 0 VendorName NVidia EndSection Section ServerLayout Identifier
Re: [opensuse] Intel 965G and 1680 x 1050
roN wrote: On Sunday 09 September 2007 10:31:16 am David C. Rankin wrote: roN wrote: On Sunday 09 September 2007 07:41:06 am Kenneth Schneider wrote: On Sun, 2007-09-09 at 10:27 -0400, BandiPat wrote: On Sunday 09 September 2007, roN wrote: Hi, Has anyone gotten a resolution of 1680 x 1050 out of an intel 965G chipset? I'm looking for that, out of the box, my opensuse 10.2 only offers 1280 x 1024 which looks somehow wrong...I would appreciate if some one could help me in a way getting my x-server to display 1680 x 1050 pixel on my screen. Thank you! Ron -- snip) Don't know how to add a line for 1680x1050. It looks like sync rates to me i guess i need to find a manual for my screen acer AL2216W. Right? For what should i look in there? Thanks! Wait *Stop* *Read* http://www.geocities.com/stomljen/ I have been through this in great detail and with great pain with opensuse 10.0. (see http://lists.freedesktop.org/pipermail/xorg/2007-April/023179.html) You are *very* luck to be running 10.2 because the 10.2 kernel will support 1680x1050 resolution natively and you will be spared the learning experience of having to build X, Mesa, and Dri/Drm from source. (see http://intellinuxgraphics.org/) The bottom line for you is a 3 step process(qualified with an I'm pretty sure speaking only from 10.0 experience): (1) you will need to download or install from Yast the 915resolution tool; (2) you will follow the instructions to patch a video mode in your video card for 1680x1050 resolution; and (3) you will make the xorg.conf changes required and then restart X. Your 10.2 install and kernel should then provide 1680x1050 resolution without having to hack and compile anything else. The steps 1,2 and 3 above will require you to manually patch your video card BIOS and manually edit several config files. Yast will not be involved int he process. Good luck, it will work for you and, if my process doesn't on first try, then the links provided will give you the required information to get the job done. Okay, David, Thanks alot for this but i stumble over the first stones already :o (1) Okay, I've installed 915resolution tool with Yast (actually it already has been installed) (2) I try to patch my xorg with instructions posted on http://www.geocities.com/stomljen/. it says Option ForceBIOS 1024x768=1400x1050 This will re-program the old 1024x768 to become a new 1400x1050 one. but I can't find a section driver where i'm supposed to place this option. So I just crearted it myself on the bottom i wrote: Section driver ForceBIOS 1024x768=1400x1050 EndSection (3) I excitedly restarted X and it said: waitting for X server to shut down Free Font Path: FPE /usr/share/fonts/misc:unscaled refcount is 2, should be 1; finxing. - so i made a startx and i was told: Fatal server error: no screens found XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X Server :0.0 after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining. - okay no way i can start it like this so i launched sax2 and i got a bunch of error messages after i saved a working configuration and sax closed: Parse error on line 207 of secton driver in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf driver is not a valid section name. Problem when parsing config file. Isax could not import file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf at /usr/sbin/isax line 171. So i'm stuck here and i don't know further can you (or anybody else) may help me? It would be appreciated! Thank you! Ron Ron, Have a look at the 915resolution commands a little closer. I don't recall a ForceBios option being involved at all. You will modify your video bios as root from the command line and it will involve replacing a video mode like '4c' with 915resolution. (i.e. # 915resolution 5c 1400 1050) See: http://absolutebeginner.wordpress.com/2006/08/20/absolute-beginner-guide-915resolution/ -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 (936) 715-9333 (936) 715-9339 fax www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Intel 965G and 1680 x 1050
On 2007/09/09 10:41 (GMT-0400) Kenneth Schneider apparently typed: You also need to supply a line in the Section Modes area as well. It's been my experience that recent versions of xorg function fine without modes defined in xorg.conf. In all mine I've been commenting away the UseModes line, and removing all entries from Section Modes, so far with no apparent ill effects on any recent version of SUSE, or any other Linux. I run resolutions from 2048x1536 on down on CRT displays, so have no idea if widescreen LCDs like 1680x1050 behave differently. -- It yet remains a problem to be solved in human affairs, whether any free government can be permanent, where the public worship of God, and the support of religion, constitute no part of the policy or duty of the state in any assignable shape. Chief Justice Joseph Story Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] ness some help with apache2
Hi all, Running apache2.0.50 on a 9.2 system. What I want to do is give ro access to a directory out of the /srv/www tree, containing backed-up files of another system, so that the users can get their files back by using a browser to dig into their backup. To achieve that i did a readonly nfs-mount of the backup-dir, into the srv/www/htdocs tree. Now when users go see their files, a lot (well, all really) of the sub-directories in their backup is missing. I found out that if I do chmod o+x, they all show up. Is there a way I can reach that by changing nfs options or apache-config, so that I do not have to change settings on every directory? For mounting I use now the following options: -o ro,rsize=8192,wsize=8192,nfsvers=3 In /etc/apache2/httpd.conf I have: Directory /srv/www/htdocs/dir Options +Indexes AuthType Basic AuthName Backup AuthUserFile /etc/apache2/passwd Require user backupuser /Directory -- L. de Braal BraHa Systems NL - Terneuzen T +31 115 649333 F +31 115 649444 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] compiz-fusion doesn't works !
On Sunday 09 September 2007 20:06, Thomas Meindl wrote: CyberOrg wrote: That should be compiz --replace ccp Both works AFAIK :) Use Xgl, you shouldn't see white cube, remove any compiz autostart script you may have. Ciao -J I have Xgl enabled and absolutely no compiz autostart script. I.e. in fact, that I only use 'gnome-xgl-settings --enable-xgl', the NVidia driver 100.14.09 and a freshly created user account.After rebooting, I see first the KDE desktop, but after a few seconds the white cube appears. Thanks a lot for the reply, Tom Lose xgl and use nvidia instead. It's faster and almost crashless. It's: gnome-xgl-settings --disable-xgl -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] compiz-fusion doesn't works !
Thanks a LOT for all answers. This helped: compiz --replace ccp And I still use XGL. And by the way: this thing seems to be undocumented here: http://news.opensuse.org/?p=167#more-167 This is my source of info. Too bad that the distro itself doesn't includes any docs on that topic. -- -Alexey Eremenko Technologov -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] What USB Webcamera to use with OpenSUSE10.2 ?
I picked up a Logitech Quickcam Chat recently at a very reasonable cost, and it works for me in kopete - not in aim, but I've tested it in yahoo chat, and it's said to work with msn chat as well. Joe Verner Kjærsgaard wrote: - my daughter (12 years) is using KDE/kopete extensively. - for her birthday coming up, I'd buy her a webcam to use with Kopete. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Fwd: Re: [opensuse] Questions for Partitioning guru's]
Peter Sjoberg wrote: Is the /home as safe residing in the extended partition? you can have it wherever you like but you need to be careful with what you do in regards to usage of it. the best way is to * have a different partition for _your data_ (not your home) * make you home in / (root partition) as you don't store there anything than config files * create a link in your new home to the data partition like this you can share data from different os (linux or not) and use ext3 and the native XP driver for windows jdd -- http://www.dodin.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] What USB Webcamera to use with OpenSUSE10.2 ?
On Sunday 09 September 2007, joe wrote: I picked up a Logitech Quickcam Chat recently at a very reasonable cost, and it works for me in kopete - not in aim, but I've tested it in yahoo chat, and it's said to work with msn chat as well. Joe I have a Logitech Quickcam Communicate STX which works well, great picture quality. Most Logitechs work well (but with notable exceptions). The best website to check for the status of most webcams is http://mxhaard.free.fr/spca5xx.html. This is the home of the spca driver which supports a lot, but also lists most other popular cams/drivers and provides links to each projects page. Another major driver is http://linux-uvc.berlios.de/ for more recent cams. Just remember that kopete (and all linux clients) only supports sending the webcam picture, not the sound. Skype currently only supports sound and not video, so a combination of the two gets a strange out of sync experience :-) OpenWengo supports video and sound via SIP, but not many people use SIP, and it's not in the openSuse repos either. John. -- Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] jpeg?
Is it possible to open .jpeg files on 9.3? Someone sent me a whole batch, and they wouldn't open. I haven't had trouble with pictures before, but I never noticed what the file format was. Thanx--doug -- Blessed are the peacemakers ... for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A.M. Greeley -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] jpeg?
On Sun, 9 Sep 2007, Doug McGarrett wrote:- Is it possible to open .jpeg files on 9.3? I certainly can with 9.3. Someone sent me a whole batch, and they wouldn't open. I haven't had trouble with pictures before, but I never noticed what the file format was. Check and make sure they really are JPEG files. Open a console and cd into the directory containing them. Then use the command file * to check and see what they really are. Regards, David Bolt -- Member of Team Acorn checking nodes at 100 Mnodes/s: www.distributed.net RISC OS 3.11 | SUSE 10.0 32bit | SUSE 10.1 32bit | openSUSE 10.2 32bit RISC OS 3.6 | SUSE 10.0 64bit | SUSE 10.1 64bit | openSUSE 10.2 64bit TOS 4.02 | SUSE 9.3 32bit | | openSUSE 10.3b2 32bit -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] jpeg?
even very old Linuxes can open JPEGs, such as RedHat Linux 7.0 from year 2000. (that's the most ancient Linux I tried) -- -Alexey Eremenko Technologov -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] jpeg?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Sunday 2007-09-09 at 18:05 -0400, Doug McGarrett wrote: Is it possible to open .jpeg files on 9.3? Of course you can. And create them, with 9.3 and with much older versions, like 6.x Someone sent me a whole batch, and they wouldn't open. I haven't had trouble with pictures before, but I never noticed what the file format was. Use the command file to find out what they really are. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFG5H6xtTMYHG2NR9URAkxnAKCLw4BcS6Eu5LPH07XghMplkS3LDwCfQvYF iqUCzpQxt86/Q5h1ZPCYfEk= =l7oG -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Questions for Partitioning guru's
On 2007/09/09 01:30 (GMT-0400) Bob S apparently typed: On Saturday 08 September 2007 01:15, Felix Miata wrote: Not exactly dumb. Without sacrificing a primary for use as an extended, you're limited to 4 partitions total. There are only two ways to be out of available unpartitioned space to add a logical if an extended already exists: 1-100% of freespace is already allocated to partitions 2-all existing freespace is located in between two primary partitions neither of which is an extended partition Neither of those are the problem. The fourth primary (sda4) is the extended and all of the free space is after that. However, Yast partitioner will not allow me to create or edit it because of the extended partition size restrictions. I almost never use anything other than DFSee to add or remove partitions, but even so, I don't believe because of... is true. It will not let me resize it neither because supposedly it is the wrong file system type. So, now all of the free space is lost behind it. That's not how it works with sensible partitioning tools. Rather, it will probably resize the extended automatically if you select the freespace following the logical(s), click on Add, and go through the rest of the steps to create a new logical. Does this mean I have to delete the extended partition and make it extend to the end of the disk and lose all of my present logical partitions? With partitioning tools that have logical user interfaces, one never explicitly deletes an extended partition. One only adds or deletes a logical partition, and the tool automatically adjusts the extended to match. The extended itself doesn't have a size. Its size is merely the sum of all logicals it contains. So, you only remove it by removing all logicals. Do you use the same /swap for all of the os's? (e.g. like my /swap for 10.0 on the IDE drive?) Linux installers generally will use every swap partition they can find. If you have multiple swap partitions, you'll have to manually change each new fstab to use whichever swap partitions you want used for that Linux. Do you mean that if there are two separate swap partitions they can be combined? I don't know about combining. That might be what the kernel does. The installer merely puts all swap partitions it finds in fstab. I doubt anyone does. There's no reason to. I usually have a maintenance and/or boot partition on the first, a boot manager on the second, a small primary type 0x06 for DOS and/or windoz, and everything else as logicals, typically more than 20 total per disk. OK, but that means you have used up two very small primary partitions and one larger one for DOS/Windows, right? Wrong. I don't install doz on C:. I merely give it a tiny C: to host its boot files, and install it usually to D:. On partitioning generally: http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/partitioningindex.html Spent over an hour reading it. Very informative. but a few questions: The LVM you talk about there; that is a OS2 thing right? Different from LVM in Linux. I updated it today to remove the confusion between OS/2 LVM and Linux LVM, plus other updates. Next question; you seem to indicate that it is necessary to have a boot manager on the first partition of the first drive to boot more than two os's. I don't really recall but I think there was some kind of boot manager as seen by a really old Partition Magic for Win 98 while using LILO. (Win98 still there on hda taking up space to just play a silly game once-in-awhile) If it is not, will I need to install one to run 10.3 once it is installed? Grub is a boot manager. LILO is a boot manager. WinNT/XP's boot loader is also a crude boot manager. A boot manager doesn't necessarily need its own partition. Some do, some don't, some can go either way. If using only Linux(s) and doz, Grub should be all you need. If you're going to have multiple Linux installations on the same system, I suggest you make a /boot partition for the first one, and that's where grub can live. See also: http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/install-doz-after.html -- It yet remains a problem to be solved in human affairs, whether any free government can be permanent, where the public worship of God, and the support of religion, constitute no part of the policy or duty of the state in any assignable shape. Chief Justice Joseph Story Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Dependecies for libdt4-x11?
What are the dependencies for libqt4-x11-4.2.1-20.i586.rpm? http://anorien.warwick.ac.uk/mirrors/suse/update/10.2/rpm/i586/libqt4-x11-4.2.1-20.i586.rpm I am trying to install skype 1.4 on SLED SP1 but i get this when trying to install libqt4-x11: Unresolved dependencies: There are no installable providers of libqt4-x11 Marking this resolution attempt as invalid. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Questions for Partitioning guru's
On Sunday 09 September 2007 06:44, Carlos E. R. wrote: The Sunday 2007-09-09 at 01:30 -0400, Bob S wrote: Neither of those are the problem. The fourth primary (sda4) is the extended and all of the free space is after that. So, you have 3 primaries, one extended, and then free space, outside of the extended partition? Then that free space is lost. The extended partition most contain all the remaining space, later to be assigned to logical partitions, which may or not use all that space. It should be possible to change the extended partition size without loosing data. Some tools are able to do it, like the commercial partition magic, I think it is. Maybe there is another method in linux. But write here the output of fdisk -l /dev/sda so we can judge better. Thanks Carlos. and for Rajko also Here is output of fdisk -l /dev/sda Disk /dev/sda: 250.0 GB, 250059350016 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 1130610490413+ 83 Linux /dev/sda21307326515735667+ 83 Linux /dev/sda332663527 2104515 82 Linux swap / Solaris /dev/sda43528 1005552436160f W95 Ext'd (LBA) /dev/sda535284180 5245191 83 Linux /dev/sda641814833 5245191 83 Linux /dev/sda74834613910490413+ c W95 FAT32 (LBA) /dev/sda86140744510490413+ 83 Linux /dev/sda97446 1005520964793+ 83 Linux EasyStreet:/ # I really hope there is such a tool. Otherwise I have an awful lot of work/fooling around to do. That is what I meant when I said,in my original post, I did a really dumb/stupid thing when I partitioned that disk. Bob S. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] ness some help with apache2
Leen de Braal wrote: Hi all, Running apache2.0.50 on a 9.2 system. What I want to do is give ro access to a directory out of the /srv/www tree, containing backed-up files of another system, so that the users can get their files back by using a browser to dig into their backup. To achieve that i did a readonly nfs-mount of the backup-dir, into the srv/www/htdocs tree. Now when users go see their files, a lot (well, all really) of the sub-directories in their backup is missing. I found out that if I do chmod o+x, they all show up. Not sure about the Apache way, but just remember +x mean execute (AND access). man chmod (x), execute/search only if the file is a directory ^^ So the +x allow them files to show up makes perfect sense -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 (936) 715-9333 (936) 715-9339 fax www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] New Version of Tux Math
For anyone interested, there's a new version of Tux Math. I went through the pain of compiling it and created an RPM file. A screenshot is here: http://www.perfectreign.com/stuff/2007/20070909_tuxmath_keypad.jpg The RPM for 10.2 is here: http://www.perfectreign.com/stuff/rpm/openSUSE10.2/ Enjoy! My four-year-old loves this game. -- kai ponte www.perfectreign.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Questions for Partitioning guru's
On Sunday 09 September 2007 21:37, Bob S wrote: On Sunday 09 September 2007 06:44, Carlos E. R. wrote: ... Thanks Carlos. and for Rajko also Here is output of fdisk -l /dev/sda Disk /dev/sda: 250.0 GB, 250059350016 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 1130610490413+ 83 Linux /dev/sda21307326515735667+ 83 Linux /dev/sda332663527 2104515 82 Linux swap / Solaris /dev/sda43528 1005552436160f W95 Ext'd (LBA) /dev/sda535284180 5245191 83 Linux /dev/sda641814833 5245191 83 Linux /dev/sda74834613910490413+ c W95 FAT32 (LBA) /dev/sda86140744510490413+ 83 Linux /dev/sda97446 1005520964793+ 83 Linux EasyStreet:/ # I really hope there is such a tool. Otherwise I have an awful lot of work/fooling around to do. That is what I meant when I said,in my original post, I did a really dumb/stupid thing when I partitioned that disk. OK. There are 2 options. 1) Run YaST partitoner and try to add more partitions, not to delete or resize /dev/sda4 2) Run in console as root cfdisk and see what it has to tell. In normal circumstances it doesn't list extended partition at all. The space after 10055 cylinder should be explicitly listed as free. So move highlight down to that line (free space) and try to add more partitions. -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Questions for Partitioning guru's
On Sun, 2007-09-09 at 22:21 -0500, Rajko M. wrote: On Sunday 09 September 2007 21:37, Bob S wrote: On Sunday 09 September 2007 06:44, Carlos E. R. wrote: ... Thanks Carlos. and for Rajko also Here is output of fdisk -l /dev/sda Disk /dev/sda: 250.0 GB, 250059350016 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 1130610490413+ 83 Linux /dev/sda21307326515735667+ 83 Linux /dev/sda332663527 2104515 82 Linux swap / Solaris /dev/sda43528 1005552436160f W95 Ext'd (LBA) /dev/sda535284180 5245191 83 Linux /dev/sda641814833 5245191 83 Linux /dev/sda74834613910490413+ c W95 FAT32 (LBA) /dev/sda86140744510490413+ 83 Linux /dev/sda97446 1005520964793+ 83 Linux EasyStreet:/ # I really hope there is such a tool. Otherwise I have an awful lot of work/fooling around to do. That is what I meant when I said,in my original post, I did a really dumb/stupid thing when I partitioned that disk. OK. There are 2 options. 1) Run YaST partitoner and try to add more partitions, not to delete or resize /dev/sda4 2) Run in console as root cfdisk and see what it has to tell. In normal circumstances it doesn't list extended partition at all. The space after 10055 cylinder should be explicitly listed as free. So move highlight down to that line (free space) and try to add more partitions. -- Regards, Rajko. I don't think that will work as he has his extended partition ending at 10055 which is where sda9 ends. At this point his only option is to backup sda5-sda9, delete them and then recreate the extended partition using all of the available space. He will then be able to created more partitions. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] New Version of Tux Math
Kai Ponte wrote: For anyone interested, there's a new version of Tux Math. I went through the pain of compiling it and created an RPM file. A screenshot is here: http://www.perfectreign.com/stuff/2007/20070909_tuxmath_keypad.jpg The RPM for 10.2 is here: http://www.perfectreign.com/stuff/rpm/openSUSE10.2/ Enjoy! My four-year-old loves this game. Thank you Kai! I have an 8, 5 and 2. The 5 and 2 will get a *lot* of mileage out of this. OT, I have 10.2 with the build farm installed and I want to get into making rpms for some of the packages I compile. What has always stopped me is the spec file. Do you have a good link or two that has a fairly good introduction to building? Thanks again for Tuxmath! -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 (936) 715-9333 (936) 715-9339 fax www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] New Version of Tux Math
Kai Ponte wrote: For anyone interested, there's a new version of Tux Math. I went through the pain of compiling it and created an RPM file. A screenshot is here: http://www.perfectreign.com/stuff/2007/20070909_tuxmath_keypad.jpg The RPM for 10.2 is here: http://www.perfectreign.com/stuff/rpm/openSUSE10.2/ Enjoy! My four-year-old loves this game. Uhh.. Kia, the rpm has some (non-fatal flaws): //root/Rankin-P35a/home/david/Documents/linux/apps/RPMS # rpm -Uvh tuxmath-1.5.4-1.i386.rpm Preparing...### [100%] 1:tuxmathwarning: user kai does not exist - using root 6%) warning: user kai does not exist - using root warning: user kai does not exist - using root 9%) warning: user kai does not exist - using root warning: user kai does not exist - using root warning: user kai does not exist - using root 10%) warning: user kai does not exist - using root warning: user kai does not exist - using root warning: user kai does not exist - using root warning: user kai does not exist - using root 13%) snipped *350* duplicate warning warning: user kai does not exist - using root warning: user kai does not exist - using root ### [100%] However, the game does play beautifully! -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 (936) 715-9333 (936) 715-9339 fax www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] New Version of Tux Math
On Sunday 09 September 2007 21:28, David C. Rankin wrote: Kai Ponte wrote: For anyone interested, there's a new version of Tux Math. I went through the pain of compiling it and created an RPM file. A screenshot is here: http://www.perfectreign.com/stuff/2007/20070909_tuxmath_keypad.jpg The RPM for 10.2 is here: http://www.perfectreign.com/stuff/rpm/openSUSE10.2/ Enjoy! My four-year-old loves this game. Uhh.. Kia, the rpm has some (non-fatal flaws): //root/Rankin-P35a/home/david/Documents/linux/apps/RPMS # rpm -Uvh tuxmath-1.5.4-1.i386.rpm Preparing...### [100%] 1:tuxmathwarning: user kai does not exist - using root 6%) warning: user kai does not exist - using root warning: user kai does not exist - using root 9%) warning: user kai does not exist - using root warning: user kai does not exist - using root warning: user kai does not exist - using root 10%) warning: user kai does not exist - using root warning: user kai does not exist - using root warning: user kai does not exist - using root warning: user kai does not exist - using root 13%) snipped *350* duplicate warning warning: user kai does not exist - using root warning: user kai does not exist - using root ### [100%] However, the game does play beautifully! ROTFL! To answer your previous question - and I think it is obvious - I don't have a clue how to build RPM files. :P I just use checkinstall which - I guess - only works for me. I'll look into what might be causing this. For those curious, I did a ./configure make su checkinstall to create the RPM file. -- kai ponte www.perfectreign.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Questions for Partitioning guru's
On Sunday 09 September 2007 22:40, Kenneth Schneider wrote: On Sun, 2007-09-09 at 22:21 -0500, Rajko M. wrote: ... OK. There are 2 options. 1) Run YaST partitoner and try to add more partitions, not to delete or resize /dev/sda4 2) Run in console as root cfdisk and see what it has to tell. In normal circumstances it doesn't list extended partition at all. The space after 10055 cylinder should be explicitly listed as free. So move highlight down to that line (free space) and try to add more partitions. ... I don't think that will work as he has his extended partition ending at 10055 which is where sda9 ends. At this point his only option is to backup sda5-sda9, delete them and then recreate the extended partition using all of the available space. He will then be able to created more partitions. I suspect that is as you say, but trying that cost nothing. In the worst case he would have to do what you said. -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Questions for Partitioning guru's
On 2007/09/09 12:44 (GMT+0200) Carlos E. R. apparently typed: So, you have 3 primaries, one extended, and then free space, outside of the extended partition? Then that free space is lost. An extended partition is a logical construct made up from the sum of existing logical partitions plus any freespace existing between them. Any partitioning tool that claims otherwise is broken. No immediately adjacent freespace can ever be lost. Lost freespace can only exist which lies between primary partitions while the MBR table has all 4 of its entries used. The extended partition most contain all the remaining space, later to be assigned to logical partitions, which may or not use all that space. It should be possible to change the extended partition size without loosing data. Some tools are able to do it, like the commercial partition magic, I think it is. Maybe there is another method in linux. The size of an extended partition is the sum of the two logical partitions farthest apart, plus all space in between. A partitioning program can choose to say it is larger, to the extent of adjacent freespace, and to some people, understanding use of the tool may be easier if it does. As long as the extended partition chain is not in an out of order state, which some partitioning tools are capable of creating, the extended technically ends at the end of whatever logical is located farthest from the MBR. It is thus because its EPBR has only one table entry, and it exists, AIUI, only to define itself, and not the end of an extended partition. See also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_Boot_Record -- It yet remains a problem to be solved in human affairs, whether any free government can be permanent, where the public worship of God, and the support of religion, constitute no part of the policy or duty of the state in any assignable shape. Chief Justice Joseph Story Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Internet Printing
Michael S. Dunsavage wrote: Has anyone set up internet printing with suse? Or know of any information out there? I tried google but really didn't get any where. Do you mean network printing? -- Michael S. Dunsavage -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
