date:20071123


Randall R Schulz wrote:

On Friday 23 November 2007 11:17, James Knott wrote:
  

...

Ssh -X will take you to a command line on a remote host, where you
can then start Yast and have it appear on the local desktop.  I've
even done it from Windows.



But only if the Windows system in question has an X server installed, 
right?


I know there are both open-source (via Cygwin) and commercial 
(Hummingbird, is it?) options, but it's not exactly common for Windows 
users to have X capabilities.



Randall Schulz
  

Quite so.  I use Xming.  Works fine.



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RE: [opensuse] Suse 10.2 fresh install - no windows from Grub {so lved}

2007-11-23 Thread James D. Parra


After installing 10.2, Grub doesn't show the windows partition, although
Grub (or the installer) did find the vendor (Acer) restore partition. How do
I modify Grub to boot into the windows partition?

~~

Hello,

Found the answer. One item when adding entries into Grub's menu.1st, if your
system sees your hard drive as 'sd0' you'll need to identify it as 'hd0,*'
in menu.1st

For example, if you have a windows partition on sda3, you'll add it as hd0,2
in menu.1st

title Windows
root (hd0,2)
makeactive
chainloader (hd0,2)+1
snip

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Re: [opensuse] Kernel Update and USB Mouse on SuSE 9.3

2007-11-23 Thread Ruben Safir

On Fri, Nov 23, 2007 at 01:03:35PM -0600, K.R. Foley wrote:
 Ruben Safir wrote:
  Hello
  
  I've update my kernel to get it to function with new hardware and the 
  modules for my eepro100
  and USB mouse aren't working now.  Where is the scripts that initiate these 
  things so that I
  fix this.  It doesn't seem to be in the /etc/rc.d/ directory, or at least I 
  can't seem to find it with
  Grep.
  
  Ruben
 
 What version of the kernel?
 
 I believe the problem that you are having is probably the difference in
 the way devices are detected and initialized (ie. udev). I had similar
 problems after going past a certain kernel version (maybe 2.6.18) on
 9.3. I was able to work around this problem by adding the device drivers
 for the devices to the MODULES_LOADED_ON_BOOT=capability raw1394
 video1394 sis900 in /etc/sysconfig/kernel.
 


it is the latest 2.6.23.8

and that is EXACLTY what I needed for the moment!

Thanks

Ruben


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Re: [opensuse] CD titles artist how to?

2007-11-23 Thread Doug McGarrett

On Friday 23 November 2007 10:18, Teruel de Campo MD wrote:
 On Fri, 2007-11-23 at 12:23 +0100, Michael Skiba wrote:
  Am Freitag, 23. November 2007 03:43:04 schrieb Teruel de Campo MD:
   I made a wav files of vinyl records. Then I burned those wav using k3b.
   I fill the spaces for artist title etc. When I play it I only see track
   1, track 2 etc.
   I have been searching in how this info is contained I have not find any
   useful information.
  
   Q: how do you write the track info so it can be display in a cd player
 
  Since you burnt them on a CD I assume you're talking about a audio CD
  intended for the use with a normal stereo system/(Car)CD-Player. The text
  you're talking about is called CD-Text and was developed by the Sony
  company. It's able to write informations about the performer and title
  name on the disc - however(!) not every cd player or stereo system is
  able to read this(in fact many can't - guess you've the best chances with
  a brand devices) - make sure yours can.

 Thanks all of you for the info. I start to realized is a little more
 that what I though.
 CD-text is the key

 http://web.ncf.ca/aa571/cdtext.htm

 http://www.cdrfaq.org/faq03.html#S3-28

 Seems that I need special drive as well as software. I will keep working
 and if I get a solution I'll post it.

 -=terry=-

I hope you are not confusing two different systems.  I'm not sure that you 
need a special drive to digitally encode song names, etc. in between tracks,
which seems to be what most responders have assumed, and they have
named some s/w type programs, but if you are thinking Light-Scribe, which 
physically prints (alpha-meric human-readable) information on the surface of 
the disk, then you need a special drive, and of course the s/w that goes with 
it.  Lite-On makes a drive like this, with s/w, and I think there are others.  
I understand there is Linux s/w for Light-Scribe also, but I don't know if it
comes with the drive, or only that for Windows.

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Re: [opensuse] Redesign of YaST Control Center


Greg Freemyer wrote:

On Nov 23, 2007 2:17 PM, James Knott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

Bryen wrote:


On Fri, 2007-11-23 at 14:02 -0500, James Knott wrote:

  

Bart Whiteley wrote:



3. YaST tools to include:

a) NX server and client:
Make available an easy to use YaST tool to integrate the OSS FreeNX
server and client. Optional also the non-OSS but free NoMachine NX
server and clients. This way it will be easy and fast to do remote login
an run Xapps with speed.





Yes, please!  I'd like to cast a vote for this as well.


  

What would that obtain that can't be had with ssh -X?




Umm... gonna take a wild stab at this.  Awareness of such a command line
option?  The whole point of Yast is to give an administrator who DOESN'T
know such an option existed on the command line a way to see it visually
in Yast.There's nothing wrong with doing it the CLI way, but there
are people out there who don't know all there is to know about CLI
options and that's where YAST comes in.


  

Ssh -X will take you to a command line on a remote host, where you can
then start Yast and have it appear on the local desktop.  I've even done
it from Windows.



I suspect you've done it from Cygwin not generic Windows.  (Or some
other tool was used to provide basic X-Server functionality.)

Personally I prefer to have an entire remote desktop, not just the
ability to initiate X-based programs via the command-line.

FreeNX provides you with that.  I know it works from Windows, and I
assume it works from Linux.

OTOH, getting FreeNX running with SuSE today is a pain in the butt.
Especially if you want to require the client have a secure private
key.

Greg
  

Xming also allows a full remote desktop.


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Re: [opensuse] OT - Linux and open source in use in public administration?

2007-11-23 Thread Verner Kjærsgaard

Fredag 23 november 2007 18:01 skrev Josef Assad:
 Johannes Nohl wrote:
  A friend of mine in the UK is looking for examples of Linux and/or open
  source being used in public administration. I've named quite a few of
  the German examples, but if anyone's got a list or useful resources,
  I'd much appreciate it. From anywhere.

 Often, a good argument for open source is via open standards.

 Danish local authorities (kommuner, not sure how that translates) are
 moving to open standards[1], FWIW.


cut out

To all; do consider reading this:

http://videnskabsministeriet.dk/site/frontpage/information-and-communication-technology/agreement-on-the-use-of-open-standards-for-software-in-the-p
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Re: [opensuse] Another - Backup Solutions

2007-11-23 Thread Billie Walsh

Sorry to take so long to respond. I've been doing some more research and
finally found a really good explanation of Mindi/Mondo. I think that's
what I've been looking for.
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[opensuse] Recommendations for a new graphics card

I'm looking to get a new graphics card to support my new 24 LCD
monitor.  I don't want to spend alot of money and I'm not looking for
fancy latest and greatest whiz-bangs.   What cards have you seen out
there/used that are reasonably low-priced, support 1920x1200 resolution,
and can do the 3D stuff?

I'm leaning towards nvidia as the brand name, but now I'm interested in
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Re: [opensuse] Kernel Update and USB Mouse on SuSE 9.3

2007-11-23 Thread K.R. Foley

Ruben Safir wrote:
 On Fri, Nov 23, 2007 at 01:03:35PM -0600, K.R. Foley wrote:
 Ruben Safir wrote:
 Hello

 I've update my kernel to get it to function with new hardware and the 
 modules for my eepro100
 and USB mouse aren't working now.  Where is the scripts that initiate these 
 things so that I
 fix this.  It doesn't seem to be in the /etc/rc.d/ directory, or at least I 
 can't seem to find it with
 Grep.

 Ruben
 What version of the kernel?

 I believe the problem that you are having is probably the difference in
 the way devices are detected and initialized (ie. udev). I had similar
 problems after going past a certain kernel version (maybe 2.6.18) on
 9.3. I was able to work around this problem by adding the device drivers
 for the devices to the MODULES_LOADED_ON_BOOT=capability raw1394
 video1394 sis900 in /etc/sysconfig/kernel.

 
 
 I added eepro100 which is a working module into the initrd line of the kernel 
 file, but the system still isn't initializing the
 ethernet card prior to me running modprobe on the command line.  I looked 
 into the config files under network and still find no 
 place where it does a probe for the card and loads modules.
 
 Any further thoughts?
 
 Ruben

Did you just add it to the INITRD line or did you add it to the
MODULES_LOADED_ON_BOOT line like I suggested above. If you add it to
that line there is no need to do a modprobe because the module gets
loaded every time. The script you are looking for is
/etc/init.d/network, but it doesn't do a modprobe. Udev is SUPPOSED to
cause the module to load when the hardware scan happens, but in newer
kernels things have changed.



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Re: [opensuse] Recommendations for a new graphics card

2007-11-23 Thread Terje J. Hanssen

Bryen wrote:
 I'm looking to get a new graphics card to support my new 24 LCD
 monitor. I don't want to spend alot of money and I'm not looking for
 fancy latest and greatest whiz-bangs. What cards have you seen out
 there/used that are reasonably low-priced, support 1920x1200 resolution,
 and can do the 3D stuff?

 I'm leaning towards nvidia as the brand name, but now I'm interested in
 which models are best.


At least my NVIDIA Quadro FX550 can be used with 1920x1200 resolution
both with the included driver and Nvidia's native driver on my Dell
2405FPW panel. Looks also like 3D desktop effects is enabled with the
latter, although I haven't got Compiz/Xgl to work yet (haven't tried so
hard either). Last time I looked, FX550 wasn't on the support list.
Maybe you need a higher model to be sure.

Rgds,
Terje J. Hanssen


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Re: [opensuse] Redesign of YaST Control Center

2007-11-23 Thread Rodney Baker

On Fri, 23 Nov 2007, Bryen wrote:
 On Fri, 2007-11-23 at 12:17 +0100, Thomas Goettlicher wrote:
  Hi everyone,
 
  we want to redesign the YaST Control Center. Therefore we are looking
  for a radical new design.
[...]

 What frustrates me personally is the lack of documentation/explanation
 within Yast modules.  For example, the other day, I posted a query here
 on the mailing list asking where I could go to get definitions of the
 multiple options available in Samba shares as presented by Yast.  People
 pointed me to SWAT, which turns out to be a very cool tool to use.  From
 a competitive perspective, Yast loses its audience to SWAT hands down.

 Should there be some flexibility, where if you click on Yast SAMBA
 Server, either the Yast module or the SWAT interface comes up, depending
 on how the administrator configures default action of a module?  (i.e.,
 Yast icon links either to a module or to an external tool?)


[...]

What if Yast was to change to a web-based paradigm similar to SWAT? That way, 
utilities like SWAT, WebMin etc. could be seamlessly integrated into Yast. In 
fact, what about rewriting Yast-specific stuff as WebMin modules? 

That would be pretty radical...


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Re: [opensuse] USB Scanner recommendation?

2007-11-23 Thread Robert Smits

On Thursday 22 November 2007 12:06:18 John Layt wrote:
 On Thursday 22 November 2007, Lenz Grimmer wrote:
  Does anybody have a recommendation for a flatbed scanner, connected via
  USB2 that works flawlessly with Linux (openSUSE 10.3 in particular) and
  is still on sale (especially in Europe/Germany)?

 Almost anything from HP will be supported, except their very cheapest
 models which cut a few corners.  They're the gold standard for manufacturer
 based printer  scanner support under linux.

 Epson reportedly also has fairly good support.

That HAD been my expeience, too. When I needed to replace my old 5470C HP 
scanner, I went down and bought another one - but to this day it has lousy 
support and a very wonky driver. 

Epson, on the other hand has a great scanner 4490 AND driver support.


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Re: [opensuse] Problems after an update.

2007-11-23 Thread Carlos E. R.


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The Friday 2007-11-23 at 19:32 +0100, Erik Jakobsen wrote:


I run opensuse 10.3.

Obviously there has been an automatic update on my system.


Shame on you!  :-P

http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2007-11/msg01845.html

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Re: [opensuse] USB Scanner recommendation?

On Fri, 2007-11-23 at 17:53 -0500, Fred A. Miller wrote:
Teruel de Campo MD wrote:
On Thu, 2007-11-22 at 20:06 +, John Layt wrote:
On Thursday 22 November 2007, Lenz Grimmer wrote:
Does anybody have a recommendation for a flatbed scanner, connected via
USB2 that works flawlessly with Linux (openSUSE 10.3 in particular) and
is still on sale (especially in Europe/Germany)?
Almost anything from HP will be supported, except their very cheapest
models
which cut a few corners. They're the gold standard for manufacturer based
printer scanner support under linux.

Epson reportedly also has fairly good support.

John.

John,

This is not my experience few month ago. Things might have changed. When
I looked into HP scanners you could run most of the all in one devices
(fax, printer, scanner) but there was not support for any of the high
end single purpose scanner. That's why I end up getting the Epson 4990
photo.

http://hp-linux.cern.ch/support/devscanner.php3

Terry, I have the 4490 Photo which is an EXCELLENT scanner, but Iscan
limits me to only a max. of 2400DPI, when the printer is capable of
4800x9600. Are you limited in the 4990 Photo as well, and will it scan
negatives properly with conversion?

Fred,

1. Yes with vuescan I can go to 4800 and that should be the same with
yours. Ain't fast :) Vuescan is also very nice to scan slides and
negatives and support the use of the slide trays. It is a well polished
product. I bough the license.

2. I choose the 4990 because I can run sane without proprietary drivers
under opensuse 10.3 64b.
Initially using suse 10.2 I tried the proprietary drivers and I think I
have to install also some 32b libraries and work well. I did not see any
advantages but I did not test high resolutions because I do not use
them.

3. The sane backend has bug that prevents you from going to high
resolution. Although I can see in both xsane and kooka resolutions up to
3200 it does not work. I can get 1400 or a little more and then
complains that can not start scanner out of memory which of course is
not true (I have 2GB and plenty of space)
I saw this thread:
https://alioth.debian.org/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=303493group_id=30186atid=410366
So if you can go to 2400 using the epson drivers you are doing better
than me using sane.

4. I also installed the win software that came with the scanner under
VMware and works very well although I do not use it since I discover
vuescan. My interest were scan slides and many at the time.

Regards,

-=terry=-

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Re: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.3 Screen resolution problem.

2007-11-23 Thread Yin T


Additional info...

I selected Control Panel-Graphics card and monitor.

When verifying the Card and Monitor Properties
Under Display 1 Tab...

Card=ATI Radeon X300/X550/X1050 Series(RV370 5B60)
Monitor=VESA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Properties
Resolution=1024x768(XGA)
Colors=16.7 Mio[24bit]
Dual Head Mode
Activate Dual Head Mode=unchecked
Activate 3D Acceleration=checked

When I clicked on Control Panel-Screen Resolution, I found that the
resolution was 800x600 and the option to select 1024x768 disappeared.



Yin T wrote:
 
 I have been running OpenSuse 10.3 for about 2 months now and had no
 problems until a few days ago.
 Sometimes when I boot up the system (cold or warm boot), the screen
 resolution is not correct any more.
 
 I have my system set at 1024x768.  After I log in and go to Gnome desktop,
 the resolution seems like it is 800x600.
 
 I tried using the Control Panel to reconfigure it back to 1024x768 and
 sometimes it seems to do the trick sometimes when I reboot again, the same
 problem happens again.
 
 Could it be something that was installed when I chose to update the system
 with the latest patches.
 
 If you need any more info to help out, please let me know.
 
 Thanks
 

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Re: [opensuse] USB Scanner recommendation?

2007-11-23 Thread Patrick Shanahan

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 3. The sane backend  has bug that prevents you from going to high
 resolution. Although I can see in both xsane and kooka resolutions up to
 3200 it does not work. I can get 1400 or a little more and then
 complains that can not start scanner out of memory which of course is
 not true (I have 2GB and plenty of space)
 I saw this thread:
 https://alioth.debian.org/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=303493group_id=30186atid=410366
 So if you can go to 2400 using the epson drivers you are doing better
 than me using sane. 
 [...]
 
I have the Epson Perfection 2400 Photo (has back-lite) and have no
problem scanning 2400 with either driver, sane or epkowa.   :^) 

and can provide examples

iscan-free-1.18.0.1-16
sane-32bit-1.0.17-18
xsane-0.994-0.pm.0
sane-frontends-1.0.14-16.pm.0
sane-1.0.18-0.pm.2

on openSUSE 10.1 x86_64
2.6.18.8-396-default #1 SMP

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Re: [opensuse] SuSE 10.3 Cross Over MathType

2007-11-23 Thread Rajko M.

On Friday 23 November 2007 06:58:43 pm Maura Edelweiss Monville wrote:

 I remember downloading some gift from MS at the time
 I installed Cross Over in 2005. But I never had to
 worry about that again until right now. So I cannot
 remember ..

Maybe installing MS true type fonts will solve the problem. 
It should be visible in YaST Online Update when you select All patches as 
filter. 

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Re: [opensuse] Redesign of YaST Control Center

2007-11-23 Thread Robert Smits

On Friday 23 November 2007 03:17:40 Thomas Goettlicher wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 we want to redesign the YaST Control Center. Therefore we are looking
 for a radical new design.

 This is your chance to share your ideas regarding YaST Control Center.

 Please feel free to contribute with mockups and (unconventional) ideas
 here: http://en.opensuse.org/YaST/Development/New_Control_Center

Hi, Thomas. Thanks for asking us about what we'd like to see.

All I really want is for YAST to be faster, especially at downloading updates 
from repositories. And why does it have to download a whole new list if I 
used it earlier in the day?

I'm not convinced I WANT a radical new design. I don't, as a rule, care all 
that much for change for change's sake, but if you give me a better Yast, 
I'll learn it.

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[opensuse] Configure nic card on 2 vlans on boot

2007-11-23 Thread Jake Conk

Hello,

I configured my nic card to be 2 seperate vlans with vconfig so now
that card is connected to vlan 1 and vlan 2 but the problem is i don't
know how to configure suse's nic settings in
/etc/sysconfig/network/ifcfg* to automatically configure the nic on
both vlans on boot.

Is this possible? Anyone have any examples?

Thanks,
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Re: [opensuse] Redesign of YaST Control Center

2007-11-23 Thread Randall R Schulz

On Friday 23 November 2007 16:19, Rodney Baker wrote:
 ...

 What if Yast was to change to a web-based paradigm similar to SWAT?

To quote Bender: Gag unto me with a spoon.


 ...
 Rodney Baker


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Re: [opensuse] Kernel Update and USB Mouse on SuSE 9.3

2007-11-23 Thread K.R. Foley

Ruben Safir wrote:
 On Fri, Nov 23, 2007 at 04:00:17PM -0600, K.R. Foley wrote:
 Ruben Safir wrote:
 On Fri, Nov 23, 2007 at 01:03:35PM -0600, K.R. Foley wrote:
 Ruben Safir wrote:
 Hello

 I've update my kernel to get it to function with new hardware and the 
 modules for my eepro100
 and USB mouse aren't working now.  Where is the scripts that initiate 
 these things so that I
 fix this.  It doesn't seem to be in the /etc/rc.d/ directory, or at least 
 I can't seem to find it with
 Grep.

 Ruben
 What version of the kernel?

 I believe the problem that you are having is probably the difference in
 the way devices are detected and initialized (ie. udev). I had similar
 problems after going past a certain kernel version (maybe 2.6.18) on
 9.3. I was able to work around this problem by adding the device drivers
 for the devices to the MODULES_LOADED_ON_BOOT=capability raw1394
 video1394 sis900 in /etc/sysconfig/kernel.


 I added eepro100 which is a working module into the initrd line of the 
 kernel file, but the system still isn't initializing the
 ethernet card prior to me running modprobe on the command line.  I looked 
 into the config files under network and still find no 
 place where it does a probe for the card and loads modules.

 Any further thoughts?

 Did you just add it to the INITRD line or did you add it to the
 MODULES_LOADED_ON_BOOT line like I suggested above. If you add it to
 that line there is no need to do a modprobe because the module gets
 loaded every time. The script you are looking for is
 /etc/init.d/network, but it doesn't do a modprobe. Udev is SUPPOSED to
 cause the module to load when the hardware scan happens, but in newer
 kernels things have changed.

 
 Thanks.  Your right.  The only thing is that currently that line is a blank
 string which means until now that system wasn't depending on that in order to
 run.  It's been loading the module from elsewhere.  I'm going to change that
 line for the network card.  The USB mouse, however, looks like a more
 complicated problem.  I found on the web the following howto instruction:
 

I understand that the line may have been blank before. However, there is
an incompatibility between the initialization on 9.3 and the newer
kernel. There is no easy fix for that.

As for the mouse, I have never had to specifically load a USB mouse
driver on my 9.3 system running newer kernels. You do however have to
have the kernel properly configured. How did you configure the kernel?
Did you start with your existing kernel config as a baseline? You can do
that by copying /boot/config-`uname -r` to srcdir/config and then do
'make oldconfig'.


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Re: [opensuse] USB Scanner recommendation?

2007-11-23 Thread Rodney Baker

On Fri, 23 Nov 2007, John Layt wrote:
 On Thursday 22 November 2007, Lenz Grimmer wrote:
  Does anybody have a recommendation for a flatbed scanner, connected via
  USB2 that works flawlessly with Linux (openSUSE 10.3 in particular) and
  is still on sale (especially in Europe/Germany)?

 Almost anything from HP will be supported, except their very cheapest
 models which cut a few corners.  They're the gold standard for manufacturer
 based printer  scanner support under linux.

 Epson reportedly also has fairly good support.

 John.

Brother also publish Linux drivers for a lot of their devices. I have an 
MFC-665CW all-in-one unit that works very well with both Linux and Windows 
machines. Check out their web site for details on what units are supported 
wtih Linux drivers.


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Re: [opensuse] Recommendations for a new graphics card

2007-11-23 Thread Paul Hands

NVidia works.  Don't touch ATI.

paul

Bryen wrote:
 I'm looking to get a new graphics card to support my new 24 LCD
 monitor.  I don't want to spend alot of money and I'm not looking for
 fancy latest and greatest whiz-bangs.   What cards have you seen out
 there/used that are reasonably low-priced, support 1920x1200 resolution,
 and can do the 3D stuff?

 I'm leaning towards nvidia as the brand name, but now I'm interested in
 which models are best.

   

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Re: [opensuse] Zypper disappeared from panel - boost update bug help from IRC channel #suse

2007-11-23 Thread Benji Weber

On 23/11/2007, Philippe Landau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am astonished that this bug (boost update removes zypper)
 has still not been fixed ?

Actually it was fixed within a matter of minutes, the #suse topic just
wasn't updated (it was left in for a while for those affected during
the brief period the faulty update was available.

Thanks for pointing it out, I've now removed the item from the #suse topic.

While the faulty update not being caught before going live was
concerning, the problem was rectified with expediency.

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Re: [opensuse] Zypper disappeared from panel - boost update bug help from IRC channel #suse

On Nov 23, 2007 6:49 PM, Tom Patton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, 2007-11-23 at 19:33 -0300, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
  Philippe Landau escribió:

  The defective update has been retired at least one week ago.
 
 
  --
 Is this thread related to what sneaked up on me today?  No yast software
 items are working, and get the following seg fault notice:

 YaST got signal 11 at YCP
 file /usr/share/YaST2/clients/sw_single.ycp:187
 /sbin/yast2: line 386:  4705 Segmentation fault  $ybindir/y2base
 $module $@ $SELECTED_GUI $Y2_GEOMETRY $Y2QT_ARGS


 I found no files being used by zypper, but I can not add or update
 anything at the moment...???

 Tom in NM

I think so.  Try:

===
As root:
rpm -e boost-1.33.1-108.2

and from the suse/i586 directory of the DVD
rpm -ivh boost-1.33.1-108.i586.rpm
rpm -ivh libzypp-3.26.2-2.i586.rpm
rpm -ivh zypper-0.8.23-7.i586.rpm
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Then re-run YOU to get a new set of updates.

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Re: [opensuse] Reading SDP memory data

2007-11-23 Thread Ciro Iriarte

2007/11/23, jim barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On Wednesday 21 November 2007 10:35, Ciro Iriarte wrote:
  Hi, looking at this topic found a Windows app
  (http://www.techpowerup.com/spdtool/) that can query/modify this data
  but can't find a way to query it on linux, hwinfo doesn't have that
  info and can't find anything alike on /proc.
 

 Lots of info here:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_Presence_Detect

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Thanks, decode-dimms.pl does the work, mostly, i can get the timings
but no the manufacture date for example, and Maximum module speed
states 1600MHz (PC12800), need to find out more about it...

But the functionality is there!

Regards,
Ciro

PS: This didn't work on a proliant server running SLES9SP3, but did
work on a inspiron 6400 running OpenSUSE 10.2
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Re: [opensuse] Recommendations for a new graphics card

2007-11-23 Thread Chris Worley

Linus says:

The good news is that a lot of hw manufacturers are actually doing the
right thing. Intel in particular has improved wrt open source a lot,
and for that reason I tend to suggest that when buying a machine, just
make sure that you buy one with Intel graphics and wireless. That
takes care of the two biggest annoyances right there.

(see http://www.apcmag.com/7016/linus_torvalds_talks_future_of_linux_page_2 )

On Nov 23, 2007 4:11 PM, Jason Craig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Bryen wrote:
  I'm looking to get a new graphics card to support my new 24 LCD
  monitor.  I don't want to spend alot of money and I'm not looking for
  fancy latest and greatest whiz-bangs.   What cards have you seen out
  there/used that are reasonably low-priced, support 1920x1200 resolution,
  and can do the 3D stuff?
 
  I'm leaning towards nvidia as the brand name, but now I'm interested in
  which models are best.
 
 
 I also have a 24 LCD at 1920x1200.  I'm running with an nvidia 7200 gs,
 but only because a friend gave it to me because he decided not to build
 a new computer.  I'm looking for a better one now, but the 7200 is dirt
 cheap, runs my LCD just find and the drivers in 10.2 and 10.3 are just
 fine.  For 3D, I can play Day of Defeat source at native resolution, but
 that may be partially due to the fact that the rest of my computer
 outperforms the card.

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Re: [opensuse] Recommendations for a new graphics card

2007-11-23 Thread Jason Craig


Bryen wrote:

I'm looking to get a new graphics card to support my new 24 LCD
monitor.  I don't want to spend alot of money and I'm not looking for
fancy latest and greatest whiz-bangs.   What cards have you seen out
there/used that are reasonably low-priced, support 1920x1200 resolution,
and can do the 3D stuff?

I'm leaning towards nvidia as the brand name, but now I'm interested in
which models are best.

  
I also have a 24 LCD at 1920x1200.  I'm running with an nvidia 7200 gs, 
but only because a friend gave it to me because he decided not to build 
a new computer.  I'm looking for a better one now, but the 7200 is dirt 
cheap, runs my LCD just find and the drivers in 10.2 and 10.3 are just 
fine.  For 3D, I can play Day of Defeat source at native resolution, but 
that may be partially due to the fact that the rest of my computer 
outperforms the card.


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Re: [opensuse] Zypper disappeared from panel - boost update bug help from IRC channel #suse

On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 17:24:20 -0500
Patrick Shanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 * Philippe Landau [EMAIL PROTECTED] [11-23-07 16:38]:
  Jerry Feldman wrote:
   I received a warning on the panel from Zypper that it was not able to
   function. (I didn't save the message). It did report that there was
   updates. I went to YOU to download the updates.
  
  I am astonished that this bug (boost update removes zypper)
  has still not been fixed ?
 
 Even more astonishing, that people *active* on *this* list have not
 seen the many posts concerning.

Ok, my hand is slapped. I just had done a search and it came up with
no hits :-)

Actually, I've been very busy lately and have not really been watching
the list. 

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Re: [opensuse] Redesign of YaST Control Center

On Nov 23, 2007 6:17 AM, Thomas Goettlicher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 we want to redesign the YaST Control Center. Therefore we are looking
 for a radical new design.

 This is your chance to share your ideas regarding YaST Control Center.

 Please feel free to contribute with mockups and (unconventional) ideas
 here: http://en.opensuse.org/YaST/Development/New_Control_Center


 Thanks,
 Thomas

I would like to see a high-level ROLES choice.

Under that you would have more human readable Desktop and Server role
descriptions.

ie. Under Server instead of Samba Server like today, you would have
Windows Compatible File Server.

Then one of the actions would eventually be Protect files via
Anti-Virus which would case ClamAV or similar to be installed.

I like someone else's suggestion that each time you make a selection
from these more friendly menu's it would be nice to have an Experts
Explanation button.  If clicked it would explain in more technical
terms what was about to be installed and configured.

Thanks
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Re: [opensuse] Zypper disappeared from panel - boost update bug help from IRC channel #suse

2007-11-23 Thread Patrick Shanahan

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  I received a warning on the panel from Zypper that it was not able to
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  updates. I went to YOU to download the updates.
 
 I am astonished that this bug (boost update removes zypper)
 has still not been fixed ?

Even more astonishing, that people *active* on *this* list have not
seen the many posts concerning.

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Re: [opensuse] OT - Linux and open source in use in public administration?

2007-11-23 Thread Dave Howorth

On Fri, 2007-11-23 at 21:21 +0100, Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:
 Fredag 23 november 2007 18:01 skrev Josef Assad:
  Often, a good argument for open source is via open standards.
 
  Danish local authorities (kommuner, not sure how that translates) are
  moving to open standards[1], FWIW.
 To all; do consider reading this:
 
 http://videnskabsministeriet.dk/site/frontpage/information-and-communication-technology/agreement-on-the-use-of-open-standards-for-software-in-the-p
 (yes, the link IS correct, even it doesn't look so :-))

If I read that right, it says systems must be able to read both ODF and
OOXML and write either one (their choice). And the decision will be
reconsidered in about two years. So not too decisive or brave then :)

Still, it's a start.

Cheers, Dave
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Re: [opensuse] OT - Linux and open source in use in public administration?

2007-11-23 Thread Verner Kjærsgaard

Fredag 23 november 2007 18:01 skrev Josef Assad:
 Johannes Nohl wrote:
  A friend of mine in the UK is looking for examples of Linux and/or open
  source being used in public administration. I've named quite a few of
  the German examples, but if anyone's got a list or useful resources,
  I'd much appreciate it. From anywhere.

 Often, a good argument for open source is via open standards.

 Danish local authorities (kommuner, not sure how that translates) are
 moving to open standards[1], FWIW.

 The Belgian government is there too[2]. This[3] Wikipedia page lists
 governments and other orgs which have adopted ODF which is exemplary of
 open standards which in turn open source arises from/facilitates.

 One nice thing about getting to open source through open standards is
 that the ODF folks have done most of the legwork acquiring a portfolio. :)



 JA


 [1]
 http://videnskabsministeriet.dk/site/forside/nyheder/pressemeddelelser/2007
/bred-aftale-om-aabne-standarder Sorry, Danish article.
 http://videnskabsministeriet.dk/site/frontpage/press/important-political-pr
ogress-for-open-standards [2]
 http://www.belgif.be/index.php/Open_Document_Format_for_Office_Applications
 [3]
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument_adoption

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the danish parliament made it law on the 30th. of march 2006 to only allow,- 
as far as practically possible - the use of open standards in all public data 
exchange.

The exact text, in danish, law no B103/30. march 2006 is here for reference:


Folketinget pålægger regeringen at sikre, at det offentliges brug af 
informationsteknologi, herunder brug af software, er baseret på åbne 
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Regeringen bør senest den 1. januar 2008 indføre og vedligeholde et sæt af 
åbne standarder, der kan tjene til inspiration for øvrige offentlige 
myndigheder. Åbne standarder bør herefter være en del af grundlaget for det 
offentliges udvikling og indkøb af it-software med henblik på at fremme 
konkurrencen.

Regeringen bør sikre, at alle digitale informationer og data, som det 
offentlige udveksler med borgere, virksomheder og institutioner, findes i 
formater, der er baseret på åbne standarder. 


Now the wording of above was originally seen as quite weak by the OS community 
in Denmark. The actual implementation is however, growing. We do see advances 
in many places. First and foremost, most public web-sites may now be viewed 
using FF and others. All banks, although not covered by this lawtext, will 
now let customers use FF and others. 

Some public institutions will now recieve OO files. Certainly not all, but 
growing.

Perhaps some other dane on this list will do a precise translation? If so, 
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Re: [opensuse] Redesign of YaST Control Center

2007-11-23 Thread Hans Witvliet

On Fri, 2007-11-23 at 12:17 +0100, Thomas Goettlicher wrote:
 Hi everyone,
 
 we want to redesign the YaST Control Center. Therefore we are looking
 for a radical new design. 
 
 This is your chance to share your ideas regarding YaST Control Center.
 
 Please feel free to contribute with mockups and (unconventional) ideas
 here: http://en.opensuse.org/YaST/Development/New_Control_Center
 
 
 Thanks,
 Thomas
 
 ---
Hi Thomas,

Firstly, If particular hardware is not detected, the installer should
not automagically (!) install neither the software for it, nor the yast
modules for them.
Having said that, it might be advisable of have an shaded-out
placeholder icon, to indicate a newby-sysop that a yast-module does
exist, but is not installed yet.

Secondly, about the data-config: not only keep it xml, but also expand
to creation for generating and validating (!!) xml-files, 
They are vital for cloning, auto-install, and the generation for
XEN-images.

Finally, most important (and difficult, if even possible):
Think about a yast-yast.
With this I mean a yast-module for creating yast-modules.
Eventhough i was at the yast-workshops at Fosdem in 2006, i still think
its a daunting task to create nice, practical, consistant yast-modules.
A framework that pre-defines the back/cancel/next buttons with the
non-graphical ALT-character code for you.

If something like that exist, the community might create the
nice-to-have but not-so-very-often to be used for bonding, gpg,
smartcards, ssh-key-management, mysql, ser, asterisk, PAM-config or
whatever.


Hans


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Re: [opensuse] Redesign of YaST Control Center

2007-11-23 Thread Terje J. Hanssen

Terje J. Hanssen wrote:

 3. YaST tools to include:

 a) NX server and client:
 Make available an easy to use YaST tool to integrate the OSS FreeNX
 server and client. Optional also the non-OSS but free NoMachine NX
 server and clients. This way it will be easy and fast to do remote login
 an run Xapps with speed.

 b) Host and client OS Manager:
 With experience from pre-Solaris, a host tool to customize and install,
 setup and manage OS images for various client types. This could be full
 desktop clients, diskless clients (X terminals) to boot over the
 network from the OS server, or medium dataless clients just with local
 boot and swap from a local storage (USB/CD or other). Maybe include kiwi
 to create the ThinClient images.


Forgot to add:

c) OpenVPN server and client
Beside we have Network Manager, but unhappily it looks unable to manage
OpenVPN connections.

In general:
All YaST server and communication tools should be integrated with
neccessarily setup of the Suse Firewall configuration.


Rgds,
Terje J. Hanssen

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Re: [opensuse] Redesign of YaST Control Center

On Nov 23, 2007 2:17 PM, James Knott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Bryen wrote:
  On Fri, 2007-11-23 at 14:02 -0500, James Knott wrote:
 
  Bart Whiteley wrote:
 
  3. YaST tools to include:
 
  a) NX server and client:
  Make available an easy to use YaST tool to integrate the OSS FreeNX
  server and client. Optional also the non-OSS but free NoMachine NX
  server and clients. This way it will be easy and fast to do remote login
  an run Xapps with speed.
 
 
 
  Yes, please!  I'd like to cast a vote for this as well.
 
 
  What would that obtain that can't be had with ssh -X?
 
 
 
 
  Umm... gonna take a wild stab at this.  Awareness of such a command line
  option?  The whole point of Yast is to give an administrator who DOESN'T
  know such an option existed on the command line a way to see it visually
  in Yast.There's nothing wrong with doing it the CLI way, but there
  are people out there who don't know all there is to know about CLI
  options and that's where YAST comes in.
 
 
 Ssh -X will take you to a command line on a remote host, where you can
 then start Yast and have it appear on the local desktop.  I've even done
 it from Windows.

I suspect you've done it from Cygwin not generic Windows.  (Or some
other tool was used to provide basic X-Server functionality.)

Personally I prefer to have an entire remote desktop, not just the
ability to initiate X-based programs via the command-line.

FreeNX provides you with that.  I know it works from Windows, and I
assume it works from Linux.

OTOH, getting FreeNX running with SuSE today is a pain in the butt.
Especially if you want to require the client have a secure private
key.

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Re: [opensuse] Redesign of YaST Control Center

2007-11-23 Thread Randall R Schulz

On Friday 23 November 2007 11:17, James Knott wrote:
 ...

 Ssh -X will take you to a command line on a remote host, where you
 can then start Yast and have it appear on the local desktop.  I've
 even done it from Windows.

But only if the Windows system in question has an X server installed, 
right?

I know there are both open-source (via Cygwin) and commercial 
(Hummingbird, is it?) options, but it's not exactly common for Windows 
users to have X capabilities.


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Re: [opensuse] Redesign of YaST Control Center


Bryen wrote:

On Fri, 2007-11-23 at 14:02 -0500, James Knott wrote:
  

Bart Whiteley wrote:


3. YaST tools to include:

a) NX server and client:
Make available an easy to use YaST tool to integrate the OSS FreeNX
server and client. Optional also the non-OSS but free NoMachine NX
server and clients. This way it will be easy and fast to do remote login
an run Xapps with speed.
  



Yes, please!  I'd like to cast a vote for this as well.
  
  

What would that obtain that can't be had with ssh -X?





Umm... gonna take a wild stab at this.  Awareness of such a command line
option?  The whole point of Yast is to give an administrator who DOESN'T
know such an option existed on the command line a way to see it visually
in Yast.There's nothing wrong with doing it the CLI way, but there
are people out there who don't know all there is to know about CLI
options and that's where YAST comes in.

  
Ssh -X will take you to a command line on a remote host, where you can 
then start Yast and have it appear on the local desktop.  I've even done 
it from Windows.

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On Fri, 2007-11-23 at 14:02 -0500, James Knott wrote:
 Bart Whiteley wrote:
  3. YaST tools to include:
 
  a) NX server and client:
  Make available an easy to use YaST tool to integrate the OSS FreeNX
  server and client. Optional also the non-OSS but free NoMachine NX
  server and clients. This way it will be easy and fast to do remote login
  an run Xapps with speed.

  
  Yes, please!  I'd like to cast a vote for this as well.

 What would that obtain that can't be had with ssh -X?
 


Umm... gonna take a wild stab at this.  Awareness of such a command line
option?  The whole point of Yast is to give an administrator who DOESN'T
know such an option existed on the command line a way to see it visually
in Yast.There's nothing wrong with doing it the CLI way, but there
are people out there who don't know all there is to know about CLI
options and that's where YAST comes in.

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[opensuse] Zypper disappeared from panel

I received a warning on the panel from Zypper that it was not able to
function. (I didn't save the message). It did report that there was
updates. I went to YOU to download the updates.

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HP has a certification matrix. This is where both HP and its partners
have certified their software on various systems. This includes SLED 10
certificaiton.

http://h71028.www7.hp.com/enterprise/cache/317504-0-0-0-121.html




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Re: [opensuse] KSSH on OpenSuSE 10.3.

2007-11-23 Thread Randall R Schulz

On Friday 23 November 2007 10:16, Jerry Feldman wrote:
 I know that kssh has not been shipped with 10.2 or 10.3, but my
 original session home configuration had 2 windows opened up as kssh
 windows. Since I installed OpenSuSE 10.3 (as a clean install), I
 still have 1 window that opens up automatically on one of the hosts.
 So, it does appear that there is some remnant of kssh left. In any
 case, is there a replacement for kssh.  I know that there is a Linux
 version of Putty, but I like the way kssh used to work.

The KDE:Community BuildService repository contains kssh. Enable that 
repository in the YaST Community Repositories module and then it'll 
become available for installation via YaST Software Management.


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[opensuse] KSSH on OpenSuSE 10.3.

I know that kssh has not been shipped with 10.2 or 10.3, but my
original session home configuration had 2 windows opened up as kssh
windows. Since I installed OpenSuSE 10.3 (as a clean install), I still
have 1 window that opens up automatically on one of the hosts. So, it
does appear that there is some remnant of kssh left. In any case, is
there a replacement for kssh.  I know that there is a Linux version of
Putty, but I like the way kssh used to work. 

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Re: [opensuse] Redesign of YaST Control Center

2007-11-23 Thread Bart Whiteley


 3. YaST tools to include:

 a) NX server and client:
 Make available an easy to use YaST tool to integrate the OSS FreeNX
 server and client. Optional also the non-OSS but free NoMachine NX
 server and clients. This way it will be easy and fast to do remote login
 an run Xapps with speed.
   
Yes, please!  I'd like to cast a vote for this as well.
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Re: [opensuse] Kernel Update and USB Mouse on SuSE 9.3

2007-11-23 Thread Jason Craig


Ruben Safir wrote:

Hello

I've update my kernel to get it to function with new hardware and the modules 
for my eepro100
and USB mouse aren't working now.  Where is the scripts that initiate these 
things so that I
fix this.  It doesn't seem to be in the /etc/rc.d/ directory, or at least I 
can't seem to find it with
Grep.

Ruben
  
I believe the stuff you would expect to find in the /etc/rc.d/ directory 
is in /etc/init.d/


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Re: [opensuse] KNetworkManager and OpenVPN - SUSE 10.3


Helmut Schaa wrote:

Am Freitag, 16. November 2007 20:19:55 schrieb James Knott:
  

Helmut Schaa wrote:


connection 'Remote', service 'org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.openvpn',
user_name 'jknott', vpn_data 'connection-type / shared-key / remote /
home.jknott.net / ca /  / cert /  / key /  / shared-key /
/etc/openvpn/static.key / username /  / local-ip / 10.1.0.2 / remote-ip
/ 10.1.0.1 / dev / tun / proto / udp / ta-dir / none', route ''.


Do these options match the ones your OpenVPN connection needs?

Regards,
Helmut
  

Yes.



Strange, can you please validate (using ps aux while the connection is in 
progress) if the instance of OpenVPN started by NM has the right parameters 
given to it.


Thanks,
Helmut
  


I just tried that, but I don't see anything that indicates OpenVPN 
parameters.


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Re: [opensuse] midnight crashes (10.3 on IBM x3455)

2007-11-23 Thread Anna Langley


Dave Howorth wrote:

Anna Langley wrote:

The crashes are so swift and complete that nothing gets written to the
system, BIOS or BMC logs.


Set kernel logging to be sent to a serial port and attach another device
(terminal, PC etc) to record what it sees there.

Cheers, Dave


Thanks Dave!

It appears that the problem was with it booting with acpi=off. 
Curiously, of the five new servers that we just bought, four of them 
suffered from this problem and the other one didn't.


Onwards to the next problem...

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Re: [opensuse] Redesign of YaST Control Center

2007-11-23 Thread Terje J. Hanssen

Thomas Goettlicher wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 we want to redesign the YaST Control Center. Therefore we are looking
 for a radical new design.

 This is your chance to share your ideas regarding YaST Control Center.

 Please feel free to contribute with mockups and (unconventional) ideas
 here: http://en.opensuse.org/YaST/Development/New_Control_Center


 Thanks,
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Suggestions:

1. Frontend GUI client - Backend server:
The YaST frontend GUI client should be easy and secure to run optional
on another machine, on a LAN or remotely over Internet. This for all
admin/config tasks on servers and workstations as well as installing
Linux if possible. While keeping the existing VNC solution, maybe a
browser based interface similar Webmin and/or some a kind of a
fullfledged thin client (NX) are useable.

2. On the opposite side, although this is not part of openSUSE so far,
all the Novell clients for Linux, GroupWise, Teaming+Conferencing etc.
that exist for Novell Open Enterprise Server 2 (OES2/NOWS), should also
be possible to run locally on that server directly. This makes it
possible to use a single lab workstation for testing all server
functionality and services locally.

3. YaST tools to include:

a) NX server and client:
Make available an easy to use YaST tool to integrate the OSS FreeNX
server and client. Optional also the non-OSS but free NoMachine NX
server and clients. This way it will be easy and fast to do remote login
an run Xapps with speed.

b) Host and client OS Manager:
With experience from pre-Solaris, a host tool to customize and install,
setup and manage OS images for various client types. This could be full
desktop clients, diskless clients (X terminals) to boot over the
network from the OS server, or medium dataless clients just with local
boot and swap from a local storage (USB/CD or other). Maybe include kiwi
to create the ThinClient images.

Rgds,
Terje J. Hanssen


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Re: [opensuse] OT - Linux and open source in use in public administration?

2007-11-23 Thread Josef Assad

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Johannes Nohl wrote:
 A friend of mine in the UK is looking for examples of Linux and/or open
 source being used in public administration. I've named quite a few of
 the German examples, but if anyone's got a list or useful resources,
 I'd much appreciate it. From anywhere.

Often, a good argument for open source is via open standards.

Danish local authorities (kommuner, not sure how that translates) are
moving to open standards[1], FWIW.

The Belgian government is there too[2]. This[3] Wikipedia page lists
governments and other orgs which have adopted ODF which is exemplary of
open standards which in turn open source arises from/facilitates.

One nice thing about getting to open source through open standards is
that the ODF folks have done most of the legwork acquiring a portfolio. :)



JA


[1]
http://videnskabsministeriet.dk/site/forside/nyheder/pressemeddelelser/2007/bred-aftale-om-aabne-standarder
Sorry, Danish article.
http://videnskabsministeriet.dk/site/frontpage/press/important-political-progress-for-open-standards
[2]
http://www.belgif.be/index.php/Open_Document_Format_for_Office_Applications
[3]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument_adoption

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Re: [opensuse] CD titles artist how to?


On Fri, 2007-11-23 at 12:23 +0100, Michael Skiba wrote:
 Am Freitag, 23. November 2007 03:43:04 schrieb Teruel de Campo MD:
  I made a wav files of vinyl records. Then I burned those wav using k3b.
  I fill the spaces for artist title etc. When I play it I only see track
  1, track 2 etc.
  I have been searching in how this info is contained I have not find any
  useful information.
 
  Q: how do you write the track info so it can be display in a cd player
 
 Since you burnt them on a CD I assume you're talking about a audio CD 
 intended 
 for the use with a normal stereo system/(Car)CD-Player. The text you're 
 talking about is called CD-Text and was developed by the Sony company. It's 
 able to write informations about the performer and title name on the disc - 
 however(!) not every cd player or stereo system is able to read this(in fact 
 many can't - guess you've the best chances with a brand devices) - make sure 
 yours can.
 

Thanks all of you for the info. I start to realized is a little more
that what I though.
CD-text is the key

http://web.ncf.ca/aa571/cdtext.htm

http://www.cdrfaq.org/faq03.html#S3-28

Seems that I need special drive as well as software. I will keep working
and if I get a solution I'll post it. 

-=terry=- 

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Re: [opensuse] Redesign of YaST Control Center

2007-11-23 Thread Ladislav Slezak

Roger Oberholtzer wrote:

 It would be nice if there was a mechanism for other configuration
 systems to at least be started from YaST. Like gnome / kde / compiz
 configurations. Not to duplicate them.

Such mechanism is already there. For exmaple if you install yast2-vm
(Xen configuration/installation) you'll see Virtual Machine Manager
in section Virtualization. The icon will start Virt-manager
(/usr/bin/virt-manager) which is a non-Yast application.


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Re: [opensuse] Redesign of YaST Control Center

2007-11-23 Thread Andrew Johnson

On Friday 23 November 2007 11:17:40 Thomas Goettlicher wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 we want to redesign the YaST Control Center. Therefore we are looking
 for a radical new design.

 This is your chance to share your ideas regarding YaST Control Center.

 Please feel free to contribute with mockups and (unconventional) ideas
 here: http://en.opensuse.org/YaST/Development/New_Control_Center


 Thanks,
 Thomas

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My own thoughts on Yast are that more help should be available in installing 
things like scanner backends,wireless network cards etc. 'Cryptic' messages 
telling the installer that additional software uploads or similar are of 
little use to the novice user who may very well be turned off at that point.
For instance there is Linux software release by Lexmark that will operate my 
Z33 printer but I had to go to an outside source to find instructions on how 
to use it. 
Cannot S.A.N.E. be integrated into the scanner setup better?
The list goes on.

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Re: [opensuse] Redesign of YaST Control Center


On Fri, 2007-11-23 at 12:17 +0100, Thomas Goettlicher wrote:
 Hi everyone,
 
 we want to redesign the YaST Control Center. Therefore we are looking
 for a radical new design. 
 
 This is your chance to share your ideas regarding YaST Control Center.
 
 Please feel free to contribute with mockups and (unconventional) ideas
 here: http://en.opensuse.org/YaST/Development/New_Control_Center
 
 
 Thanks,
 Thomas
 
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I would be curious what your initial ideas about a radical change are.  

Personally, I like the look and feel of Yast2, it is easy enough to get
around.  What I would like to see is a stronger attached documentation
scheme.  Perhaps a link within Yast modules to view related man pages?  

The whole idea of Yast is to simplify administration and enable
administrators to get away from the CLI if at all possible.  Although
the geekier we are, the less likely we are to use Yast in the first
place.  :-)

What frustrates me personally is the lack of documentation/explanation
within Yast modules.  For example, the other day, I posted a query here
on the mailing list asking where I could go to get definitions of the
multiple options available in Samba shares as presented by Yast.  People
pointed me to SWAT, which turns out to be a very cool tool to use.  From
a competitive perspective, Yast loses its audience to SWAT hands down.

Should there be some flexibility, where if you click on Yast SAMBA
Server, either the Yast module or the SWAT interface comes up, depending
on how the administrator configures default action of a module?  (i.e.,
Yast icon links either to a module or to an external tool?)

I also wish there were definitions of the modules.  How about
something where, if you hover your mouse over a module, it will output a
brief definition of the module?  For example, hover over NFS Server
and a popup appears This is the Network File Services module.  It will
enable you to share your directories on multiple machines.   When
people, especially newbie administrators, have to google elsewhere to
find definitions, that loses audience as well.  

I also would like to see something where, within the module, it tells
you what configuration files are related to the changes you are making.
Yast2 shouldn't just be a place to administrate, but also a place where
administrators learn *more* about what works on their system and how it
works.

And last, but definitely not least, is the Help function.  Although,
this is probably more a fault of the module's author than the Yast
design itself, some of these help screens are just downright idiotic.
When you click on Help, and all it says is To enable function, click
box.  To disable function, unclick box. is a good way to make us
eventually ignore the help button altogether.  When I'm looking for
help, its not because I want to know how to click/unclick.  Duhhh. It's
because I want to know WHAT is that function for???

Now that I think about it.  How about an additional Help sub-function
where administrators can enter notes about a particular module/function?
That way, in a multiple-administrator environment, we can keep better
track of information related to a module.

So, all in all, bottom line here.  I am not sure we need to radically
change the look and feel of Yast, but I do think there needs to be more
built-in documentation/information methods for administrators.  For just
about any tool, it isn't about *how* you do something, but rather, *why*
do you something.



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Re: [opensuse] OT - Linux and open source in use in public administration?

2007-11-23 Thread aledr

In Brazil we have very huge efforts to migrate all the government's
network (including state and municipal too) to Linux. There is an
unanimous adoption in the state and federal universities (mine one as
example).
I worked in a migrations project in a council some years ago (wireless
networks and desktop migrations, servers and LTSPs for me). It
envolved public schools, public kindergartens, well, all the 26 public
builds there. It still working until now, and they doesn't want to
return do M$ ever.
You can hear about these efforts at every place here! (Just awesome!!!)

2007/11/23, Roger Oberholtzer [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On Fri, 2007-11-23 at 21:10 +0900, Denis Brown wrote:
  At 05:39 PM 23/11/2007, Clayton wrote:
A friend of mine in the UK is looking for examples of Linux and/or open
source being used in public administration. I've named quite a few of
the German examples, but if anyone's got a list or useful resources,
I'd much appreciate it. From anywhere.
   
It appears that local government in his part of the world is only
interested in negotiating with youknowwho, and the local Linux User
Group is trying to suggest anopther angle :-)
  
  There is quite a bit of information here that might be useful...
  OpenOffice.org focused, but it does give a rather good snapshot of
  government agencies and private companies who are using OOo and Linux
  (including SUSE in many).
  
  http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Major_OpenOffice.org_Deployments
 
  Just out of interest I put linux open source used in public
  administration into Google and returned 1.25 million hits :-)   Including
  the original poster's reference.
 
  It seems that Spain, Italy, Venezuela, Brazil, Canada (especially schools)
  ... are all on the bandwagon.   And I recall a SuSE presentation which
  showed SuSE SLES and Xen being used big-time in the German air traffic
  control.   Talk about mission-critical apps :-)
 
  Hope this helps to get you pointed in the right areas.   I may have
  references on my University's intranet that I could hunt up and let you 
  have.

 In Sweden there has been discussions. But not much more. The only
 official decision is that government internet services must, to the
 user, be platform agnostic. I can live with that. So, when I wanted my
 electronic ID so I could file taxes on line, there was a Linux browser
 plugin. And it works.

 
  HTH,
  Denis
 
 
 
 
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Re: [opensuse] OT - Linux and open source in use in public administration?

Per Jessen wrote:
 A friend of mine in the UK is looking for examples of Linux and/or open
 source being used in public administration.  I've named quite a few of
 the German examples, but if anyone's got a list or useful resources,
 I'd much appreciate it.  From anywhere. 

 It appears that local government in his part of the world is only
 interested in negotiating with youknowwho, and the local Linux User
 Group is trying to suggest anopther angle :-)

   
I seem to recall reading about the City of Bristol running OpenOffice.


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Re: [opensuse] CD titles artist how to?

2007-11-23 Thread Michael Skiba

Am Freitag, 23. November 2007 03:43:04 schrieb Teruel de Campo MD:
 I made a wav files of vinyl records. Then I burned those wav using k3b.
 I fill the spaces for artist title etc. When I play it I only see track
 1, track 2 etc.
 I have been searching in how this info is contained I have not find any
 useful information.

 Q: how do you write the track info so it can be display in a cd player

Since you burnt them on a CD I assume you're talking about a audio CD intended 
for the use with a normal stereo system/(Car)CD-Player. The text you're 
talking about is called CD-Text and was developed by the Sony company. It's 
able to write informations about the performer and title name on the disc - 
however(!) not every cd player or stereo system is able to read this(in fact 
many can't - guess you've the best chances with a brand devices) - make sure 
yours can.

Greetings
Michael
[0] http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~aa571/cdtext.htm
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CD-Text





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[opensuse] Redesign of YaST Control Center

2007-11-23 Thread Thomas Goettlicher

Hi everyone,

we want to redesign the YaST Control Center. Therefore we are looking
for a radical new design. 

This is your chance to share your ideas regarding YaST Control Center.

Please feel free to contribute with mockups and (unconventional) ideas
here: http://en.opensuse.org/YaST/Development/New_Control_Center


Thanks,
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[Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Re: [opensuse] USB Scanner recommendation?]]

2007-11-23 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Hi,

On Nov 23 09:09 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote (shortened):
 My experience has been bad with HP scanners under Linux actually.
...
 
 Now an all-in-one package exists for Linux, but I don't know how good it is.


On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 09:36:46 +0100 (CET) Johannes Meixner wrote:
Do not mix up HP flatbed scanners with scanners in HP all-in-one
devices. Linux support for HP flatbed scanners is poor.
Linux support for scanners in HP all-in-one devices is good, see
http://hplip.sourceforge.net/supported_devices/index.html


Thanx Johannes for the info. 
I was not sure of how good it is now. My last experienced was about 2-3 years 
ago.

:-)
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Re: [opensuse] CD titles artist how to?

2007-11-23 Thread Gavin Chester

On Thu, 2007-11-22 at 21:51 -0500, James Knott wrote:
 Teruel de Campo MD wrote:
  I made a wav files of vinyl records. Then I burned those wav using k3b.
  I fill the spaces for artist title etc. When I play it I only see track
  1, track 2 etc. 
  I have been searching in how this info is contained I have not find any
  useful information. 
 
  Q: how do you write the track info so it can be display in a cd player

When you say CD player do you mean a music player in linux or a stereo
system. If the latter, then they don't show track names, do they? Also,
how did you fill the spaces? If you just edited the file names then
that's not enough.

 Any CD info I've seen, comes from a CDDB database, which someone
 uploaded.  I don't think there's any means to store that info on the
 disk.  There's no reason why you couldn't create your own description
 file, so that the CD player can read it.

The file you are talking about is the ID3 tag. There are several
editor app. options for how to create your own in linux either manually
or automatically. What I'm not 100% sure about is whether the ID3
editors will work just as well for .wav files as it does for .mp3, etc
because I've not put it to the test. But, that info should give you a
start to google better than you might have up to now :-) HTH.

Gavin 



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Re: [Fwd: Re: [opensuse] USB Scanner recommendation?]

2007-11-23 Thread jpff

Just a datapoint.  I have a Brother scanner/printer.  They provided
Linux drivers and it has not given any problems.  I use xsane to drive
the scanner and the printer is our network printer

==John ffitch

This research is of insufficient standard
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Re: [opensuse] Zypper disappeared from panel - boost update bug help from IRC channel #suse

2007-11-23 Thread Tom Patton


On Fri, 2007-11-23 at 19:00 -0500, Greg Freemyer wrote:
 On Nov 23, 2007 6:49 PM, Tom Patton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Fri, 2007-11-23 at 19:33 -0300, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
   Philippe Landau escribió:
 
   The defective update has been retired at least one week ago.
  
  
   --
  Is this thread related to what sneaked up on me today?  No yast software
  items are working, and get the following seg fault notice:
 
  YaST got signal 11 at YCP
  file /usr/share/YaST2/clients/sw_single.ycp:187
  /sbin/yast2: line 386:  4705 Segmentation fault  $ybindir/y2base
  $module $@ $SELECTED_GUI $Y2_GEOMETRY $Y2QT_ARGS
 
 
  I found no files being used by zypper, but I can not add or update
  anything at the moment...???
 
  Tom in NM
 
 I think so.  Try:
 
 ===
 As root:
 rpm -e boost-1.33.1-108.2
 
 and from the suse/i586 directory of the DVD
 rpm -ivh boost-1.33.1-108.i586.rpm
 rpm -ivh libzypp-3.26.2-2.i586.rpm
 rpm -ivh zypper-0.8.23-7.i586.rpm
 ===
 
 Then re-run YOU to get a new set of updates.
 
 Greg
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Hum, guess not.  This unit hasn't done that recent an update...installed
it last weekend, and it looks like the update at that time didn't take,
here's my files currently installed.  (It was my laptop that I updated
Tuesday...)

Linux master 2.6.22.5-31-default #1 SMP 2007/09/21 22:29:00 UTC i686
athlon i386 GNU/Linux

master:/home/thpnalb # rpm -q boost
boost-1.33.1-108
master:/home/thpnalb # rpm -q libzypp
libzypp-3.26.2-2
master:/home/thpnalb # rpm -q zypper
zypper-0.8.23-7

So I guess I have to look further at this seg fault...
but your idea has merit, I might re-install the yast / zypper groups
just for grins...

Thanks, Greg, I appreciate it!

Tom


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Re: [opensuse] CD titles artist how to?


On Fri, 2007-11-23 at 10:38 -0500, James Knott wrote:
 Gavin Chester wrote:
  On Thu, 2007-11-22 at 21:51 -0500, James Knott wrote:

  ny CD info I've seen, comes from a CDDB database, which someone
  uploaded.  I don't think there's any means to store that info on the
  disk.  There's no reason why you couldn't create your own description
  file, so that the CD player can read it.
  
 
  The file you are talking about is the ID3 tag. There are several
  editor app. options for how to create your own in linux either manually
  or automatically. What I'm not 100% sure about is whether the ID3
  editors will work just as well for .wav files as it does for .mp3, etc
  because I've not put it to the test. But, that info should give you a
  start to google better than you might have up to now :-) HTH.
 
 

 The CD player in KDE, (I've forgotten it's name) allows you to create 
 your own list and upload it to a server.  While I haven't made my own 
 CD's from .WAV files, I believe that's supported in K3B.
 So, create a CD, then make a list and check it twice!  ;-)
James

This seems to be the approach of the Windows player but you have to be
connected and I am more interested to use it in just plain player like
the ones in the car. 

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 Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
 
  It would be nice if there was a mechanism for other configuration
  systems to at least be started from YaST. Like gnome / kde / compiz
  configurations. Not to duplicate them.
 
How about a function that either a) tells you There are x additional
Yast modules available for installation or b) This Yast module needs to
be upgraded.

 
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On Fri, 2007-11-23 at 17:58 +0100, Terje J. Hanssen wrote:
 Thomas Goettlicher wrote:
  Hi everyone,
 
  we want to redesign the YaST Control Center. Therefore we are looking
  for a radical new design.
 
  This is your chance to share your ideas regarding YaST Control Center.
 
  Please feel free to contribute with mockups and (unconventional) ideas
  here: http://en.opensuse.org/YaST/Development/New_Control_Center
 
 
  Thanks,
  Thomas
 
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 Suggestions:
 
 1. Frontend GUI client - Backend server:
 The YaST frontend GUI client should be easy and secure to run optional
 on another machine, on a LAN or remotely over Internet. This for all
 admin/config tasks on servers and workstations as well as installing
 Linux if possible. While keeping the existing VNC solution, maybe a
 browser based interface similar Webmin and/or some a kind of a
 fullfledged thin client (NX) are useable.
 
I wholeheartedly second this one!  There should definitely be a Yast
central server deal, or at least a way to connect to Yast on each box
from a standard remote client.  Similar to Novell's ConsoleOne which
uses eDirectory as the backend.  ConsoleOne is portable to any
administrator's desktop.

 2. On the opposite side, although this is not part of openSUSE so far,
 all the Novell clients for Linux, GroupWise, Teaming+Conferencing etc.
 that exist for Novell Open Enterprise Server 2 (OES2/NOWS), should also
 be possible to run locally on that server directly. This makes it
 possible to use a single lab workstation for testing all server
 functionality and services locally.
 
Absolutely.  

 3. YaST tools to include:
 
 a) NX server and client:
 Make available an easy to use YaST tool to integrate the OSS FreeNX
 server and client. Optional also the non-OSS but free NoMachine NX
 server and clients. This way it will be easy and fast to do remote login
 an run Xapps with speed.
 
 b) Host and client OS Manager:
 With experience from pre-Solaris, a host tool to customize and install,
 setup and manage OS images for various client types. This could be full
 desktop clients, diskless clients (X terminals) to boot over the
 network from the OS server, or medium dataless clients just with local
 boot and swap from a local storage (USB/CD or other). Maybe include kiwi
 to create the ThinClient images.
 
 Rgds,
 Terje J. Hanssen
 
 
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Re: [opensuse] CD titles artist how to?


Gavin Chester wrote:

On Thu, 2007-11-22 at 21:51 -0500, James Knott wrote:
  

ny CD info I've seen, comes from a CDDB database, which someone
uploaded.  I don't think there's any means to store that info on the
disk.  There's no reason why you couldn't create your own description
file, so that the CD player can read it.



The file you are talking about is the ID3 tag. There are several
editor app. options for how to create your own in linux either manually
or automatically. What I'm not 100% sure about is whether the ID3
editors will work just as well for .wav files as it does for .mp3, etc
because I've not put it to the test. But, that info should give you a
start to google better than you might have up to now :-) HTH.


  
The CD player in KDE, (I've forgotten it's name) allows you to create 
your own list and upload it to a server.  While I haven't made my own 
CD's from .WAV files, I believe that's supported in K3B.

So, create a CD, then make a list and check it twice!  ;-)


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2007-11-23 Thread Roger Oberholtzer

On Fri, 2007-11-23 at 07:27 -0600, Bryen wrote:
 On Fri, 2007-11-23 at 12:17 +0100, Thomas Goettlicher wrote:
  Hi everyone,
  
  we want to redesign the YaST Control Center. Therefore we are looking
  for a radical new design. 
  
  This is your chance to share your ideas regarding YaST Control Center.
  
  Please feel free to contribute with mockups and (unconventional) ideas
  here: http://en.opensuse.org/YaST/Development/New_Control_Center
  
  
  Thanks,
  Thomas

It would be nice if there was a mechanism for other configuration
systems to at least be started from YaST. Like gnome / kde / compiz
configurations. Not to duplicate them. But at least to find them. I am
sure there are many more config programs that can be located. Perhaps
this should be a YaST module more than any change to YaST itself. But I
think it is a missing feature. Something simple. Just a description of
what the config program configs, and a button to start it.

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Re: [opensuse] OT - Linux and open source in use in public administration?

2007-11-23 Thread Denis Brown


At 05:39 PM 23/11/2007, Clayton wrote:

 A friend of mine in the UK is looking for examples of Linux and/or open
 source being used in public administration. I've named quite a few of
 the German examples, but if anyone's got a list or useful resources,
 I'd much appreciate it. From anywhere.

 It appears that local government in his part of the world is only
 interested in negotiating with youknowwho, and the local Linux User
 Group is trying to suggest anopther angle :-)

There is quite a bit of information here that might be useful...
OpenOffice.org focused, but it does give a rather good snapshot of
government agencies and private companies who are using OOo and Linux
(including SUSE in many).

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Major_OpenOffice.org_Deployments


Just out of interest I put linux open source used in public 
administration into Google and returned 1.25 million hits :-)   Including 
the original poster's reference.


It seems that Spain, Italy, Venezuela, Brazil, Canada (especially schools) 
... are all on the bandwagon.   And I recall a SuSE presentation which 
showed SuSE SLES and Xen being used big-time in the German air traffic 
control.   Talk about mission-critical apps :-)


Hope this helps to get you pointed in the right areas.   I may have 
references on my University's intranet that I could hunt up and let you have.


HTH,
Denis




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Re: [opensuse] CD titles artist how to?

2007-11-23 Thread Magnar Strand Olsen

2007/11/23, Gavin Chester [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On Thu, 2007-11-22 at 21:51 -0500, James Knott wrote:
  Teruel de Campo MD wrote:
   I made a wav files of vinyl records. Then I burned those wav using k3b.
   I fill the spaces for artist title etc. When I play it I only see track
   1, track 2 etc.
   I have been searching in how this info is contained I have not find any
   useful information.
  
   Q: how do you write the track info so it can be display in a cd player

 When you say CD player do you mean a music player in linux or a stereo
 system. If the latter, then they don't show track names, do they? Also,
 how did you fill the spaces? If you just edited the file names then
 that's not enough.

  Any CD info I've seen, comes from a CDDB database, which someone
  uploaded.  I don't think there's any means to store that info on the
  disk.  There's no reason why you couldn't create your own description
  file, so that the CD player can read it.

 The file you are talking about is the ID3 tag. There are several
 editor app. options for how to create your own in linux either manually
 or automatically. What I'm not 100% sure about is whether the ID3
 editors will work just as well for .wav files as it does for .mp3, etc
 because I've not put it to the test. But, that info should give you a
 start to google better than you might have up to now :-) HTH.

 Gavin


I think he was referring to CDText-info on audio CDs... Many new CD
players can display such info, and when you insert a CD with CDText,
you can get the player to display album name, artist name and track
name instead of or in addition to the track number/time info.

Since his CD player displays the track names as Track 1... etc, it is
obviously capable of displaying CD Text.  The question is how to make
k3b write *your* preferred track name instead of the default Track
1.

Regards,
Magnar.
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Re: [Fwd: Re: [opensuse] USB Scanner recommendation?]

2007-11-23 Thread Johannes Meixner


Hello,

On Nov 23 10:09 jpff wrote (shortened):
 I have a Brother scanner/printer.  They provided
 Linux drivers and it has not given any problems.

You use it on a i386-compatible true 64-bit system (i.e. AMD 64-bit)?
Or perhaps even on a non-i386-compatible platform?
;-)

Kind Regards
Johannes Meixner
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[opensuse] audio trouble in Opensuse 10.3 ... after login

2007-11-23 Thread Gene A. Anderson

I'm a fairly new Linux user who is completely new to Opensuse.  I have
recently installed the Gnome desktop version of Opensuse 10.3 to an old
Compaq Presario desktop computer that also can boot up in Windows 2000.

When I login the desktop icon for the volume control has a red X.  When
I click on it I get the following error message: This volume control
did not find any elements and/or devices to control.  This means either
you don't have the right GStreamer plugins installed or that you don't
have a sound card configured.

The YaST sound configuration window shows that the ESS1988 Allegro-1 was
configured as sound card number 0.  It also lists the driver as
snd_maestro3.  So that seems like the card is being found.

Most bizarre to me is that in the login window when my cursor is in the
empty field in which to type my user name, I can hit the backspace key
and get a healthy beep out of the speakers as if the sound card is
correctly configured and ready to work and somehow the login process
disrupts that, because after logging in I can get no sound whatsoever
out of the speakers.

I'm looking for any suggestions and I'm willing to provide any
information that would be helpful.  Please remember that I am something
of a beginner, so please try to keep that in mind when advising me.
Thank you.


Gene Anderson in Taiwan

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Re: [opensuse] USB Scanner recommendation?


On Thu, 2007-11-22 at 20:06 +, John Layt wrote:
 On Thursday 22 November 2007, Lenz Grimmer wrote:
  Does anybody have a recommendation for a flatbed scanner, connected via
  USB2 that works flawlessly with Linux (openSUSE 10.3 in particular) and
  is still on sale (especially in Europe/Germany)?
 
 Almost anything from HP will be supported, except their very cheapest models 
 which cut a few corners.  They're the gold standard for manufacturer based 
 printer  scanner support under linux.
 
 Epson reportedly also has fairly good support.
 
 John.

John,

This is not my experience few month ago. Things might have changed. When
I looked into HP scanners you could run most of the all in one devices
(fax, printer, scanner) but there was not support for any of the high
end single purpose scanner. That's why I end up getting the Epson 4990
photo.

http://hp-linux.cern.ch/support/devscanner.php3

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Re: [opensuse] Redesign of YaST Control Center

2007-11-23 Thread Josef Assad

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Thomas Goettlicher wrote:
 Hi everyone,
 
 we want to redesign the YaST Control Center. Therefore we are looking
 for a radical new design. 
 
 This is your chance to share your ideas regarding YaST Control Center.
 
 Please feel free to contribute with mockups and (unconventional) ideas
 here: http://en.opensuse.org/YaST/Development/New_Control_Center

I'm relatively happy with yast, but I'm no benchmark. I'm comfortable
with the old ways of configuring stuff, so I don't use it as much as
others might.

I'm wondering though; if there's the will to fundamentally change the
YaST interface, would it make sense from the perspective of inclusion
and broader open source community coherence to solicit input from other
distro communities?

Maybe this is already being done in which case /dev/null this
suggestion. But if not, it might improve YaST visibility outside
opensuse/SLE, which is a good thing from many angles.


JA


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Re: [opensuse] Redesign of YaST Control Center - documentation and search

2007-11-23 Thread mourik jan c heupink

There are certain cli equivalents for yast menu choices, and it would be 
nice to see them somewhere on-screen being 'composed' upon choosing them 
in the menus.


That way i would have learned that yast online_update takes me to the 
online update component immediately.


Regards,
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Re: [opensuse] OT - Linux and open source in use in public administration?

2007-11-23 Thread Harikrishnan T

Hi,

This may be useful:

UNDP-APDIP International Open Source Network - http://www.iosn.net/

THK
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Re: [opensuse] OT - Linux and open source in use in public administration?

All these mentions of communities and agencies in other parts of the
world adopting Linux enmasse is putting us Americans to shame.  :-)  Why
can't we get that kind of adoption rate?  :-(

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On Fri, 2007-11-23 at 13:00 -0500, Greg Freemyer wrote:
 On Nov 23, 2007 12:55 PM, Bryen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  All these mentions of communities and agencies in other parts of the
  world adopting Linux enmasse is putting us Americans to shame.  :-)  Why
  can't we get that kind of adoption rate?  :-(
 
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 Bryen,  The Atlanta public school system started experimenting with
 Linux a few years ago.  I think they have several schools fully
 migrated.  So it is happening even here.
 
 Greg
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Oh I agree that it is happening here as well. just not to the level of
publicity and media attention as others.  I know of several school
districts that are supposedly doing it.

Maybe we need to boost the media attention onto ourselves a little
better?


 
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Re: [opensuse] Redesign of YaST Control Center


On Fri, 2007-11-23 at 12:17 +0100, Thomas Goettlicher wrote:
 Hi everyone,
 
 we want to redesign the YaST Control Center. Therefore we are looking
 for a radical new design. 
 
 This is your chance to share your ideas regarding YaST Control Center.
 
 Please feel free to contribute with mockups and (unconventional) ideas
 here: http://en.opensuse.org/YaST/Development/New_Control_Center
 
 
 Thanks,
 Thomas
 
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By the way, we're all discussing Yast usage after installation.  But
Yast as the tool during installation of xSuse (Suse in any flavor)
should also include a11y support.  In the OpenSuse-GNOME team, we have
discussed two ideas for a11y support:

1)  Built-in functionality:  During installation, users should
automatically get screen magnification support.  In other words, if you
press a certain series of hot-keys, a screen magnifier will appear and
you can proceed throughout the installation with mouse-based
magnification.   This is useful not just for visually-impaired people,
but for anyone who may struggle with seeing what's on the screen due to
resolution problems, etc.

2)  During the first cycle of the Yast Installation, just after the
Software selection phase but before the reboot, there should be a screen
that offers users to enable a11y features of their preference.  That
way, when installation is finished, a11y suport is enabled.  

If a11y support is not enabled by the time you reach your login screen
for the very first time, that user may be screwed, depending on her/his
a11y needs until somebody else comes along and makes the settings for
them.  But if the a11y user *IS* the administrator, then Houston, we
have a problem here.   :-)

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