[opensuse] Beryl and scrolling artifacts
I have Beryl working great on my nVidia 6600. But when Firefox/Opera/Konqueror (or gwenview etc) is loading a page (or photos) and I scroll the page I get scrolling artifacts on the screen, scrolling down. They disappear when the page is finished loading. A old status bar is drawn in the page area for each scroll increment. I can generate screenshots if necessary. E-Mail disclaimer: http://www.sunspace.co.za/emaildisclaimer.htm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] beryl no window borders
Hi I got beryl working but to get window borders I have to use: Rendering path copy Aquamarine doesn't give borders either. This slows things down, glxgears gives 2000 under kde. That goes down to 11 with beryl. Any ideas? 10.2 on amd 64, KDE, nvidia 6100 using native nvidia drivers only. Thanks, Steve. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] beryl and video
Hello! Since I started to use beryl, I haven't been able to play videos. Kaffeine doesn't even start. My card is: NVidia GeForce MX/MX400. How could I fix that? Thansks in advance. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] beryl and video
On 5/30/07, josenildo marques [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello! Since I started to use beryl, I haven't been able to play videos. Kaffeine doesn't even start. My card is: NVidia GeForce MX/MX400. How could I fix that? Thansks in advance. Error messages would be helpful. ~/.xsession-errors, maybe also /var/log/messages -- Andy Harrison -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] beryl installation problem
Well i am trying to install Beryl. i am usind kde desktop and nvidia 6600 card i have followed all instruction on the page http://en.opensuse.org/Beryl but when i type the last command i get the error as oswin-suse:~ # su oswin-suse:~ # gnome-xgl-switch --enable-xgl Warning! MD5DIR is not set: you probably called this script outside SuSEconfig...! Using MD5DIR=/var/adm/SuSEconfig/md5... No changes for /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers No changes for /etc/X11/xdm/xdm-config oswin-suse:~ # the command beryl-manager works and the red diamond does come in sys. tray please help _ Search from any Web page with powerful protection. Get the FREE Windows Live Toolbar Today! http://toolbar.live.com/?mkt=en-in-- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] beryl installation problem
On Friday 13 April 2007 18:47:25 oswin dcunah wrote: Well i am trying to install Beryl. i am usind kde desktop and nvidia 6600 card i have followed all instruction on the page http://en.opensuse.org/Beryl but when i type the last command i get the error as oswin-suse:~ # su oswin-suse:~ # gnome-xgl-switch --enable-xgl Warning! MD5DIR is not set: you probably called this script outside SuSEconfig...! Using MD5DIR=/var/adm/SuSEconfig/md5... No changes for /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers No changes for /etc/X11/xdm/xdm-config oswin-suse:~ # the command beryl-manager works and the red diamond does come in sys. tray please help The output is correct. If you right click on the red diamond and choosing 'reload window manager' does anything? Make sure the window manager is set to 'beryl' under the select 'window manager option'. Also, turn on splash screen for beryl so you can ensure it's loading - Right click the diamond, choose 'beryl settings manager' and under 'extras', choose splash. Also, try running beryl-manager from a konsole session, you might get more output that would help. Did you reboot after enabling xgl? Cheers Pete -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] beryl installation problem
While we're on this thread, have another question: I can enable or disable beryl in GNOME, and have it work in KDE, but I can't find out how to enable or dsiable it using KDE. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Beryl Spawns Too Many Desktops
I'm running beryl 0.2.0 on my openSuSE 10.2 system. When I switch to the Beryl window manager, for some reason it spawns a bunch of extra desktops, more than normal. It says that I should only have one desktop, yet it will spawn either 6 or 8. If I try changing the number of desktops, then I get some multiple of desktops ( i.e. try using 4 desktops, beryl creates 32 of them). I'm not really sure where it is that this happens. Beryl actually creates something that looks more like a 3D Hexagon than a Cube. I'm running an ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 card with the newest drivers Anyone have any advice? -- Andrew Burgess -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Beryl Spawns Too Many Desktops
On 3/23/07, Andrew Burgess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm running beryl 0.2.0 on my openSuSE 10.2 system. When I switch to the Beryl window manager, for some reason it spawns a bunch of extra desktops, more than normal. It says that I should only have one desktop, yet it will spawn either 6 or 8. If I try changing the number of desktops, then I get some multiple of desktops ( i.e. try using 4 desktops, beryl creates 32 of them). I'm not really sure where it is that this happens. Beryl actually creates something that looks more like a 3D Hexagon than a Cube. I'm running an ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 card with the newest drivers Anyone have any advice? Check Horizontal Virtual Size, Virticle Virtual Size, Number of Desktops, and Output Grid options if you have Custom Output Grid selected. All these options are in beryl-settings general section. Cheers -J -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] beryl-settings on SLED 10
On Mar 09, 07 08:53:09 -0500, Abstract wrote: There is only one beryl tutorial I follow and that is the only one that seems official to me. The others have completely messed up my system. That can be found here http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_SuSE In that case, please update the openSUSE wiki page about beryl. CU Matthias -- Matthias Hopf [EMAIL PROTECTED] ____ __ Maxfeldstr. 5 / 90409 Nuernberg (_ | | (_ |__ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone +49-911-74053-715 __) |_| __) |__ R D www.mshopf.de -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] beryl-settings on SLED 10
I'm currently running SLED 10 64 bit, and installed beryl 1.4, from a repository given by one of those tutorials that you find on the web. Now, I followed everything from the tutorial, and I also included beryl-settings. The problem now is , it doesn't seem to run. I also tried running beryl-settings from command line, and there was an error. Why is this ? where can I find an update on beryl, maybe this could fix this? Please give your tips and suggestions regarding this ..thanks -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] beryl-settings on SLED 10
There is only one beryl tutorial I follow and that is the only one that seems official to me. The others have completely messed up my system. That can be found here http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_SuSE Now, if you need help with drivers and such, that is a diff story On 3/9/07, Joshua Raphael P. Fuentes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm currently running SLED 10 64 bit, and installed beryl 1.4, from a repository given by one of those tutorials that you find on the web. Now, I followed everything from the tutorial, and I also included beryl-settings. The problem now is , it doesn't seem to run. I also tried running beryl-settings from command line, and there was an error. Why is this ? where can I find an update on beryl, maybe this could fix this? Please give your tips and suggestions regarding this ..thanks -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Beryl and xgl
On Mon, 2007-03-05 at 16:30 +0100, Matthias Hopf wrote: On Mar 05, 07 16:43:13 +0200, Hans van der Merwe wrote: I use AIGLX in nVidia driver - works perfectly - movies play on rotated cube - folding maxed windows etc. You are NOT using AIGLX in the NVIDIA driver - NVIDIA doesn't use AIGLX. NVIDIA had accelerated indirect rendering (guess what AIGLX stands for) almost since day one (say: 5 years ago or more). The AIGLX framework is *only* used by open source drivers as we speak. NVIDIA has implemented EXT_pixmap_from_texture as well, which enables compiz - just like the AIGLX and Xgl do as well. The NVIDIA implementation obviously works very well together with OpenGL and XVideo - though there are still some rough edges. Can everybody please stop distributing this FUD any further? Wrong statements don't get right by repeating them over and over... Matthias Sorry, me not using compiz and xgl - computer works. E-Mail disclaimer: http://www.sunspace.co.za/emaildisclaimer.htm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Beryl and xgl
On Tue, 2007-03-06 at 16:58 +0100, Matthias Hopf wrote: On Mar 05, 07 21:02:07 +0100, Tom Burt wrote: Does this mean that the page http://en.opensuse.org/Beryl is also incorrect in saying: Beryl with nVidia drivers - no Xgl/AIGLX ...This uses nVidia's AIGLX; not Xorg's inbuilt/optional AIGLX... Well - partially. It just shouldn't be called AIGLX (this sentence is explicitly stating that is not the same as AIGLX as Xorg calls it). Correcting it. Reads now: Since Xorg 7.x, composite effects can be used without Xgl and simply an nVidia card. This uses nVidia's implementation of EXT_pixmap_from_texture, not the one from Xorg's inbuilt/optional AIGLX or from Xgl. Well, this page is quite confusing, at least for me. Can someone point to a decent article about the technologies/acronyms? No, unfortunately. Creating such a page would surely be appreciated. Matthias So I should not enable AIGLX in Xorg conf file? ps, my head is sore E-Mail disclaimer: http://www.sunspace.co.za/emaildisclaimer.htm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Beryl and xgl
On Mar 07, 07 11:03:56 +0200, Hans van der Merwe wrote: So I should not enable AIGLX in Xorg conf file? It depends on whether you want to run compiz on AIGLX or Xgl. Both have advantages and disadvantages. compiz used to only work on Xgl. The current (read: really new) compiz package on openSUSE runs on both, even with ATI's fglrx driver using Xgl. Beryl runs on both, but AFAIK not at all with the fglrx driver, and probably not on NVIDIA with Xgl. Matthias -- Matthias Hopf [EMAIL PROTECTED] ____ __ Maxfeldstr. 5 / 90409 Nuernberg (_ | | (_ |__ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone +49-911-74053-715 __) |_| __) |__ R D www.mshopf.de -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Beryl and xgl
On Wed, 2007-03-07 at 13:14 +0100, Matthias Hopf wrote: On Mar 07, 07 11:03:56 +0200, Hans van der Merwe wrote: So I should not enable AIGLX in Xorg conf file? It depends on whether you want to run compiz on AIGLX or Xgl. Both have advantages and disadvantages. compiz used to only work on Xgl. The current (read: really new) compiz package on openSUSE runs on both, even with ATI's fglrx driver using Xgl. Beryl runs on both, but AFAIK not at all with the fglrx driver, and probably not on NVIDIA with Xgl. Matthias But me with nVidia card, Beryl and AIGLX (or whatever) - do I place the AIGLX option in the conf file or not? Seeing that its doesn't really use AIGLX? E-Mail disclaimer: http://www.sunspace.co.za/emaildisclaimer.htm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Beryl and xgl
On Mar 07, 07 12:51:41 +, Hans van der Merwe wrote: But me with nVidia card, Beryl and AIGLX (or whatever) - do I place the AIGLX option in the conf file or not? Seeing that its doesn't really use AIGLX? No. As I said, NVidia had accelerated indirect OpenGL from day one (the acrynom AIGLX wasn't even invented back then). There is no option to deactivate / activate this in the NVidia driver. The option AIGLX will be ignored. You need to have Composite activated (section Extensions). But that is the same for all AIGLX drivers. Matthias -- Matthias Hopf [EMAIL PROTECTED] ____ __ Maxfeldstr. 5 / 90409 Nuernberg (_ | | (_ |__ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone +49-911-74053-715 __) |_| __) |__ R D www.mshopf.de -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Beryl and xgl
On Mar 05, 07 21:02:07 +0100, Tom Burt wrote: Does this mean that the page http://en.opensuse.org/Beryl is also incorrect in saying: Beryl with nVidia drivers - no Xgl/AIGLX ...This uses nVidia's AIGLX; not Xorg's inbuilt/optional AIGLX... Well - partially. It just shouldn't be called AIGLX (this sentence is explicitly stating that is not the same as AIGLX as Xorg calls it). Correcting it. Reads now: Since Xorg 7.x, composite effects can be used without Xgl and simply an nVidia card. This uses nVidia's implementation of EXT_pixmap_from_texture, not the one from Xorg's inbuilt/optional AIGLX or from Xgl. Well, this page is quite confusing, at least for me. Can someone point to a decent article about the technologies/acronyms? No, unfortunately. Creating such a page would surely be appreciated. Matthias -- Matthias Hopf [EMAIL PROTECTED] ____ __ Maxfeldstr. 5 / 90409 Nuernberg (_ | | (_ |__ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone +49-911-74053-715 __) |_| __) |__ R D www.mshopf.de -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Beryl and xgl
On Mar 05, 07 09:30:49 +0200, Hans van der Merwe wrote: Even if you move the windows to a different location after startup? Even when rotating the cube then? Move windows to different location -- sorry dont understand? AIGLX cannot display GLX content correctly while moving a window. Just checked this on FOSDEM, it's still the same. It also doesn't seem to be able to do projection, so the windows won't be placed correctly / distorted when rotating the cube while an opengl program is running. Matthias -- Matthias Hopf [EMAIL PROTECTED] ____ __ Maxfeldstr. 5 / 90409 Nuernberg (_ | | (_ |__ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone +49-911-74053-715 __) |_| __) |__ R D www.mshopf.de -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Beryl and xgl
On Mon, 2007-03-05 at 15:25 +0100, Matthias Hopf wrote: On Mar 05, 07 09:30:49 +0200, Hans van der Merwe wrote: Even if you move the windows to a different location after startup? Even when rotating the cube then? Move windows to different location -- sorry dont understand? AIGLX cannot display GLX content correctly while moving a window. Just checked this on FOSDEM, it's still the same. It also doesn't seem to be able to do projection, so the windows won't be placed correctly / distorted when rotating the cube while an opengl program is running. Matthias I use AIGLX in nVidia driver - works perfectly - movies play on rotated cube - folding maxed windows etc. E-Mail disclaimer: http://www.sunspace.co.za/emaildisclaimer.htm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Beryl and xgl
On Mar 05, 07 16:43:13 +0200, Hans van der Merwe wrote: I use AIGLX in nVidia driver - works perfectly - movies play on rotated cube - folding maxed windows etc. You are NOT using AIGLX in the NVIDIA driver - NVIDIA doesn't use AIGLX. NVIDIA had accelerated indirect rendering (guess what AIGLX stands for) almost since day one (say: 5 years ago or more). The AIGLX framework is *only* used by open source drivers as we speak. NVIDIA has implemented EXT_pixmap_from_texture as well, which enables compiz - just like the AIGLX and Xgl do as well. The NVIDIA implementation obviously works very well together with OpenGL and XVideo - though there are still some rough edges. Can everybody please stop distributing this FUD any further? Wrong statements don't get right by repeating them over and over... Matthias -- Matthias Hopf [EMAIL PROTECTED] ____ __ Maxfeldstr. 5 / 90409 Nuernberg (_ | | (_ |__ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone +49-911-74053-715 __) |_| __) |__ R D www.mshopf.de -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Beryl and xgl
On Mon, 2007-03-05 at 16:30 +0100, Matthias Hopf wrote: On Mar 05, 07 16:43:13 +0200, Hans van der Merwe wrote: I use AIGLX in nVidia driver - works perfectly - movies play on rotated cube - folding maxed windows etc. You are NOT using AIGLX in the NVIDIA driver - NVIDIA doesn't use AIGLX. NVIDIA had accelerated indirect rendering (guess what AIGLX stands for) almost since day one (say: 5 years ago or more). The AIGLX framework is *only* used by open source drivers as we speak. NVIDIA has implemented EXT_pixmap_from_texture as well, which enables compiz - just like the AIGLX and Xgl do as well. The NVIDIA implementation obviously works very well together with OpenGL and XVideo - though there are still some rough edges. Can everybody please stop distributing this FUD any further? Wrong statements don't get right by repeating them over and over... I agree. Part of the reason is that people are just spewing names of components without knowing where they fit in the grand scheme of things. What I would like to see is a list of which groups of these things work best together. Something like, Given that you use the nvidia driver, these are the best components to use: Or Given that you are using the XOrg driver, these are the best components to use: I know this is a moving target, but at least this could get many people started with a decent setup. Exploration can happen later. I think that the many descriptions of how to set this up do not make the matter more clear. There is too much of an assumption that everyone knows what the various components are. -- Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems / Ramböll RST Ramböll Sverige AB Kapellgränd 7 P.O. Box 4205 SE-102 65 Stockholm, Sweden Tel: Int +46 8-615 60 20 Fax: Int +46 8-31 42 23 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Beryl and xgl
On Mar 05, 07 17:18:22 +0100, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: What I would like to see is a list of which groups of these things work best together. Something like, Given that you use the nvidia driver, these are the best components to use: Or Given that you are using the XOrg driver, these are the best components to use: I know this is a moving target, but at least this could get many people started with a decent setup. Exploration can happen later. You could start an according page on opensuse.org ;-) (hint, hint) Probably all pages AIGLX, Xgl, compiz, beryl, etc. should link to that. I think that the many descriptions of how to set this up do not make the matter more clear. There is too much of an assumption that everyone knows what the various components are. Yes, but I've written it multiple times to this mailing list alone, and I don't what else to do to reduce the number of wrong statements :-( Thanks Matthias -- Matthias Hopf [EMAIL PROTECTED] ____ __ Maxfeldstr. 5 / 90409 Nuernberg (_ | | (_ |__ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone +49-911-74053-715 __) |_| __) |__ R D www.mshopf.de -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Beryl and xgl
On 2007. 03. 05., Monday 16:30, Matthias Hopf wrote: On Mar 05, 07 16:43:13 +0200, Hans van der Merwe wrote: I use AIGLX in nVidia driver - works perfectly - movies play on rotated cube - folding maxed windows etc. You are NOT using AIGLX in the NVIDIA driver - NVIDIA doesn't use AIGLX. Does this mean that the page http://en.opensuse.org/Beryl is also incorrect in saying: Beryl with nVidia drivers - no Xgl/AIGLX ...This uses nVidia's AIGLX; not Xorg's inbuilt/optional AIGLX... Well, this page is quite confusing, at least for me. Can someone point to a decent article about the technologies/acronyms? Tom -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Beryl and xgl
On Fri, 2007-03-02 at 19:10 +0100, Matthias Hopf wrote: On Feb 26, 07 08:49:53 +, Hans van der Merwe wrote: Ok, but now Im confused - as in my first post: When Xgl is disabled - everything works fine. Xgl enabled all my GL apps and Kwin crawl (beryl and compiz run fine). Right, I forgot something. Xgl needs pbuffers for GL applications to still work in a composited desktop. Unfortunately, the open source drivers do not yet support this extension (needs a memory manager rewrite). This is close to being done now. Intel driver or Xgl issue? Actually, a DRI issue. You may call it driver issue ;) (as said AIGLX works fine) Even if you move the windows to a different location after startup? Even when rotating the cube then? Matthias Move windows to different location -- sorry dont understand? Everything much faster using AIGLX. E-Mail disclaimer: http://www.sunspace.co.za/emaildisclaimer.htm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Beryl and xgl
On Feb 26, 07 10:02:30 +0200, Hans van der Merwe wrote: Yes, but does Xgl allow other GL apps (who needs direct rendering, ie GoogleEarth) to run smoothly? The question is rather: Is AIGLX finally capable of showing GLX applications correctly? Last time I tried it didn't. Xgl supported GLX from very early on. By principle, Xgl doesn't support direct rendering (this is a major undertaking), but most people won't realize, that they are using indirect accelerated rendering. Q3 e.g. works fine with that. Matthias -- Matthias Hopf [EMAIL PROTECTED] ____ __ Maxfeldstr. 5 / 90409 Nuernberg (_ | | (_ |__ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone +49-911-74053-715 __) |_| __) |__ R D www.mshopf.de -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Beryl and xgl
On Feb 26, 07 09:35:19 +0100, Morten Bjørnsvik wrote: In GoogleEarth most menus are black until I move the mouse over. But everything I think that bug is gone now. If not, file a bug report. Xgl only do the window and window framebuffer stuff. all direct rendering is passed directly to the OpenGL driver(aka the Nvidia,Ati,Mesa etc driver). Fullscreen openGL apps like Doom3 are not affected. Incorrect. There is no direct rendering with Xgl. There is always accelerated indirect rendering, though. This is typically only bad for OpenGL apps that upload lots and lots of textures (e.g. OpenGL backends of video players). CU Matthias -- Matthias Hopf [EMAIL PROTECTED] ____ __ Maxfeldstr. 5 / 90409 Nuernberg (_ | | (_ |__ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone +49-911-74053-715 __) |_| __) |__ R D www.mshopf.de -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Beryl and xgl
On Feb 26, 07 08:49:53 +, Hans van der Merwe wrote: Ok, but now Im confused - as in my first post: When Xgl is disabled - everything works fine. Xgl enabled all my GL apps and Kwin crawl (beryl and compiz run fine). Right, I forgot something. Xgl needs pbuffers for GL applications to still work in a composited desktop. Unfortunately, the open source drivers do not yet support this extension (needs a memory manager rewrite). This is close to being done now. Intel driver or Xgl issue? Actually, a DRI issue. You may call it driver issue ;) (as said AIGLX works fine) Even if you move the windows to a different location after startup? Even when rotating the cube then? Matthias -- Matthias Hopf [EMAIL PROTECTED] ____ __ Maxfeldstr. 5 / 90409 Nuernberg (_ | | (_ |__ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone +49-911-74053-715 __) |_| __) |__ R D www.mshopf.de -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Beryl and xgl
On Fri, 2007-02-23 at 15:42 +0100, Matthias Hopf wrote: On Feb 21, 07 16:01:44 +0200, Hans van der Merwe wrote: Before I run gnome-xgl-switch, glxinfo indicates direct rendering: Yes, X nice and fast After gnome-xgl-switch --enable-xgl and X restart I get direct rendering: No, and X is really slow, unusable (before even starting beryl) - Direct rendering: No is a FAQ: read http://en.opensuse.org/Xgl#Frequently_Asked_Questions_.28FAQ.29 - Using Xgl *without* a composition manager is typically pretty slow. - Beryl is unsupported from our side. So before doing any bug reports (if issues remain) please test with compiz first. Beryl performance is ok, not great, but I guess that's because of rending being off. No. There is a patched Xgl version since yesterday, which accelerates intel and radeon drivers. You might want to test it: http://software.opensuse.org/download/X11:/XGL/ Thanks, but I switched to AIGLX, it just works better IMHO. I need Google Earth to work alongside GL desktop. E-Mail disclaimer: http://www.sunspace.co.za/emaildisclaimer.htm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Beryl and xgl
On Fri, 2007-02-23 at 15:44 +0100, Matthias Hopf wrote: On Feb 21, 07 16:21:09 +0200, Hans van der Merwe wrote: My home PC, nvidia 6600, rocks with aiglx enabled. Never ever compare low-end intel i945 with mid-to-high-end nvidia 6600. The hardware is *much* more capable, and the drivers are much better (they have a *much* larger development team, and access to hardware guys). nvidia also flies on Xgl. Yes, but does Xgl allow other GL apps (who needs direct rendering, ie GoogleEarth) to run smoothly? E-Mail disclaimer: http://www.sunspace.co.za/emaildisclaimer.htm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [opensuse] Beryl and xgl
|From: Hans van der Merwe |Sent: 26. februar 2007 09:03 |Yes, but does Xgl allow other GL apps (who needs direct rendering, ie |GoogleEarth) to run smoothly? In GoogleEarth most menus are black until I move the mouse over. But everything works smoothly. It is not much of a problem. Xgl only do the window and window framebuffer stuff. all direct rendering is passed directly to the OpenGL driver(aka the Nvidia,Ati,Mesa etc driver). Fullscreen openGL apps like Doom3 are not affected. -- MortenB -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [opensuse] Beryl and xgl
On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 09:35 +0100, Morten Bjørnsvik wrote: |From: Hans van der Merwe |Sent: 26. februar 2007 09:03 |Yes, but does Xgl allow other GL apps (who needs direct rendering, ie |GoogleEarth) to run smoothly? In GoogleEarth most menus are black until I move the mouse over. But everything works smoothly. It is not much of a problem. Xgl only do the window and window framebuffer stuff. all direct rendering is passed directly to the OpenGL driver(aka the Nvidia,Ati,Mesa etc driver). Fullscreen openGL apps like Doom3 are not affected. Ok, but now Im confused - as in my first post: When Xgl is disabled - everything works fine. Xgl enabled all my GL apps and Kwin crawl (beryl and compiz run fine). How can this be if Xgl just passes through the direct rendering? Intel driver or Xgl issue? (as said AIGLX works fine) E-Mail disclaimer: http://www.sunspace.co.za/emaildisclaimer.htm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Beryl
I just finished an evaluation of Beryl, Emerald and XGL on my Suse 10.2 system and I have to say that Vista has nothing special in comparison. What a desktop enhancement! Now, having said that, I have to report that I removed it all from the computer because of the extra overhead that it requires and because I personally do not need or want many of the bells and whistles that are provided. So, to summarize, it is really nice eye candy but it made my system slow down because I don't have gobs of memory. Fred -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Beryl
I just finished an evaluation of Beryl, Emerald and XGL on my Suse 10.2 system and I have to say that Vista has nothing special in comparison. What a desktop enhancement! Now, having said that, I have to report that I removed it all from the computer because of the extra overhead that it requires and because I personally do not need or want many of the bells and whistles that are provided. So, to summarize, it is really nice eye candy but it made my system slow down because I don't have gobs of memory. Agreed,I had used it and deleted it. It's not meant to be much more than eye candy but still, it's cool. Vista's Aero can barely compete with that. Vista's Aero is eye candy as well but not meant to help much. LOL. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Beryl
Op maandag 26 februari 2007 18:17, schreef Jay Smith: Now, having said that, I have to report that I removed it all from the computer because of the extra overhead that it requires and because I personally do not need or want many of the bells and whistles that are provided. So, to summarize, it is really nice eye candy but it made my system slow down because I don't have gobs of memory. Agreed,I had used it and deleted it. It's not meant to be much more than eye candy but still, it's cool. Vista's Aero can barely compete with that. Vista's Aero is eye candy as well but not meant to help much. LOL. because of Beryl I had people start to have a look at linux. A nice distro for this to come with beryl out of the box, is knoppix ;) -- Richard Bos Without a home the journey is endless -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Beryl
On Monday 26 February 2007, Stevens wrote: I just finished an evaluation of Beryl, Emerald and XGL on my Suse 10.2 system and I have to say that Vista has nothing special in comparison. What a desktop enhancement! Now, having said that, I have to report that I removed it all from the computer because of the extra overhead that it requires and because I personally do not need or want many of the bells and whistles that are provided. So, to summarize, it is really nice eye candy but it made my system slow down because I don't have gobs of memory. Fred That was my assessment too. This stuff has no place on a working machine. Maybe just to show off, but realistically it adds nothing to usability that can not be achieved easier with multiple desktops. -- _ John Andersen pgpw37s4CqlbD.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] Beryl
On 2/26/07, John Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That was my assessment too. This stuff has no place on a working machine. Maybe just to show off, but realistically it adds nothing to usability that can not be achieved easier with multiple desktops. I tend to agree, but I do think that there is more to it: specifically I think that 3d is an enabling technology primarily and right now what it mostly enables is eye-candy. But I thnk down the road (not that far) will be more productivity and functionally useful tools that leverage the basic tech. I believe it is much like faster processors, larger drives, and more memory it will not be going away. And in fact, I would not be surprised to see the visualation stuff end up being pivotal in significant ways ... Peter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Beryl
Peter Van Lone wrote: On 2/26/07, John Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That was my assessment too. This stuff has no place on a working machine. Maybe just to show off, but realistically it adds nothing to usability that can not be achieved easier with multiple desktops. I tend to agree, but I do think that there is more to it: specifically I think that 3d is an enabling technology primarily and right now what it mostly enables is eye-candy. But I thnk down the road (not that far) will be more productivity and functionally useful tools that leverage the basic tech. I believe it is much like faster processors, larger drives, and more memory it will not be going away. And in fact, I would not be surprised to see the visualation stuff end up being pivotal in significant ways ... Peter I so not strongly disagree with the people, but I find the ability to shade the windows very useful. It help reduces the clutter on window when working. If it was not for the Emerald theme, I would be using the standard Compiz. -- Joseph Loo [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Beryl
On Monday 26 February 2007, Peter Van Lone wrote: On 2/26/07, John Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That was my assessment too. This stuff has no place on a working machine. I believe it is much like faster processors, larger drives, and more memory it will not be going away. And in fact, I would not be surprised to see the visualation stuff end up being pivotal in significant ways ... Peter I agree it might be pivotal in time. Maybe when we get real 3D monitors. I suspect when it becomes significant it will not be in its current form at all. Once the weight, size, and power requirements are reduced by switching from monitors to flat panels the dramatic growth in screen real estate will take off. I could see a use for really huge wide, wrap around screens - 40 inches or more. (I just installed a system with dual 20inch flat panels. Gawd is that awesome). Realistically we have not progressed much since the glass teletype days of green text on a black background. Now we have black text in a white background in a grey box. Oh Joy. Multiple desktops is a crude but workable solution to the limited screen real estate problem. Big, really big, screens makes more sense. Putting 4 windows on a rotating cube is a very childish approach. -- _ John Andersen pgpd06U9fyGPG.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] Beryl
On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 10:07 -0600, Stevens wrote: I just finished an evaluation of Beryl, Emerald and XGL on my Suse 10.2 system and I have to say that Vista has nothing special in comparison. What a desktop enhancement! Now, having said that, I have to report that I removed it all from the computer because of the extra overhead that it requires and because I personally do not need or want many of the bells and whistles that are provided. So, to summarize, it is really nice eye candy but it made my system slow down because I don't have gobs of memory. Fred Depends on the machine - my Nvidia with AIGLX is as usable as without Beryl (with the exception of window resizing, for some weird reason very slow). BUT, my Dell Intel laptop is a no-go for working - but still fine for showing-off. E-Mail disclaimer: http://www.sunspace.co.za/emaildisclaimer.htm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Beryl and xgl
On Feb 21, 07 16:01:44 +0200, Hans van der Merwe wrote: Before I run gnome-xgl-switch, glxinfo indicates direct rendering: Yes, X nice and fast After gnome-xgl-switch --enable-xgl and X restart I get direct rendering: No, and X is really slow, unusable (before even starting beryl) - Direct rendering: No is a FAQ: read http://en.opensuse.org/Xgl#Frequently_Asked_Questions_.28FAQ.29 - Using Xgl *without* a composition manager is typically pretty slow. - Beryl is unsupported from our side. So before doing any bug reports (if issues remain) please test with compiz first. Beryl performance is ok, not great, but I guess that's because of rending being off. No. There is a patched Xgl version since yesterday, which accelerates intel and radeon drivers. You might want to test it: http://software.opensuse.org/download/X11:/XGL/ Matthias -- Matthias Hopf [EMAIL PROTECTED] ____ __ Maxfeldstr. 5 / 90409 Nuernberg (_ | | (_ |__ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone +49-911-74053-715 __) |_| __) |__ R D www.mshopf.de -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Beryl and xgl
On Feb 21, 07 16:21:09 +0200, Hans van der Merwe wrote: My home PC, nvidia 6600, rocks with aiglx enabled. Never ever compare low-end intel i945 with mid-to-high-end nvidia 6600. The hardware is *much* more capable, and the drivers are much better (they have a *much* larger development team, and access to hardware guys). nvidia also flies on Xgl. Matthias -- Matthias Hopf [EMAIL PROTECTED] ____ __ Maxfeldstr. 5 / 90409 Nuernberg (_ | | (_ |__ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone +49-911-74053-715 __) |_| __) |__ R D www.mshopf.de -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Beryl and xgl
I have done a bit of googling but still cant find anyone else with this problem. I have beryl, xgl, working, but slowly, on Intel 945GM (followed instructions on suse and beryl forums) Before I run gnome-xgl-switch, glxinfo indicates direct rendering: Yes, X nice and fast After gnome-xgl-switch --enable-xgl and X restart I get direct rendering: No, and X is really slow, unusable (before even starting beryl) Beryl performance is ok, not great, but I guess that's because of rending being off. Any ideas ps xorg.conf has got all the settings prescribed by beryl install instructions E-Mail disclaimer: http://www.sunspace.co.za/emaildisclaimer.htm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Beryl and xgl
On 2/21/07, Hans van der Merwe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have done a bit of googling but still cant find anyone else with this problem. I have beryl, xgl, working, but slowly, on Intel 945GM (followed instructions on suse and beryl forums) Get the latest Xgl, compiz and beryl-snapshot packages from here: http://software.opensuse.org/download/X11:/XGL/ If you still cannot get it working as expected, check the shared memory allocated to video, increase it. If it still doesn't work, try xgl package from here, it seems to have helped some: http://forum.go-compiz.org/viewtopic.php?t=273 Cheers -J -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Beryl and xgl
On Wed, 2007-02-21 at 19:41 +0530, Jigish Gohil wrote: On 2/21/07, Hans van der Merwe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have done a bit of googling but still cant find anyone else with this problem. I have beryl, xgl, working, but slowly, on Intel 945GM (followed instructions on suse and beryl forums) Get the latest Xgl, compiz and beryl-snapshot packages from here: http://software.opensuse.org/download/X11:/XGL/ If you still cannot get it working as expected, check the shared memory allocated to video, increase it. If it still doesn't work, try xgl package from here, it seems to have helped some: http://forum.go-compiz.org/viewtopic.php?t=273 Cheers -J Thanks, but from http://en.opensuse.org/Xgl I read: Direct rendering is active if running glxinfo|grep direct on top of Xorg (not Xgl!) shows you Yes. On top of Xgl this will always show you No. Unfortunately, for Xorg having direct rendering is a synonym for having accelerated graphics, and it is more difficult to detect whether hardware accleration is available than it is to detect direct rendering. So my current performance seem to be the best - well - didn't buy the Dell for its graphics speed. My home PC, nvidia 6600, rocks with aiglx enabled. E-Mail disclaimer: http://www.sunspace.co.za/emaildisclaimer.htm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Beryl
Jigish Gohil wrote: On 1/9/07, Joseph Loo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am beginning to experiment with beryl (1.4) on opensuse 10.2. It seems that fo some users, adding the beryl-manager in the gnome session will invoke beyrl-xgl. In other users, it will not be invoked at all. The effect is that the window borders will not appear. Make beryl-manager run last in the gnome session manager. The work around is to add beryl-xgl to the gnome session manager. I would like to know if there are some configuration files that I need to adjust to make it work properly. beryl-xgl and any of the available window decorator can be put in gnome session, no other configuration files need to be touched. -J I am just guessing, when you do the initial setup, you can select your window decorator. The problem is that beryl-manager, for some strange reason is not launching the beryl-xgl. Thus none of the window decorator will show up. If you do a reload, beryl-xgl will then run. It seems to me, it is some kind of configuration issue. I took a user that has beryl that is running correctly and replaced .beryl/, .emerald/, .beryl-managerrc, and .recently-used.xbel. The beryl will now run correctly. It seems that the initialization was not uniformly created. -- Joseph Loo [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Beryl
I am beginning to experiment with beryl (1.4) on opensuse 10.2. It seems that fo some users, adding the beryl-manager in the gnome session will invoke beyrl-xgl. In other users, it will not be invoked at all. The effect is that the window borders will not appear. The work around is to add beryl-xgl to the gnome session manager. I would like to know if there are some configuration files that I need to adjust to make it work properly. In addition in opensuse 10.2, I noticed that it leaves a lot of running process after you close down. One of the things is the dbus-daemon and gnome-vfs-daemon. Is this suppose to be normal in the operation. -- Joseph Loo [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Beryl
On 1/9/07, Joseph Loo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am beginning to experiment with beryl (1.4) on opensuse 10.2. It seems that fo some users, adding the beryl-manager in the gnome session will invoke beyrl-xgl. In other users, it will not be invoked at all. The effect is that the window borders will not appear. Make beryl-manager run last in the gnome session manager. The work around is to add beryl-xgl to the gnome session manager. I would like to know if there are some configuration files that I need to adjust to make it work properly. beryl-xgl and any of the available window decorator can be put in gnome session, no other configuration files need to be touched. -J -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Beryl and openSUSE 10.2 AMD64 and nVidia
Am Donnerstag, 4. Januar 2007 14:43 schrieb Martin Mielke: Hi there! after reading this thread and taking a look at my system (also openSuSE 10.2 on AMD64) I'm considering installing Beryl and give it a try... Anyway, what keeps me from doing it is: how do I revert to the previous state?? is it as simple as deleting the links created as described on http://en.opensuse.org/Beryl#Making_Beryl_start_automatically ?? ln -s /usr/bin/beryl-manager ~/.kde/Autostart/beryl-manager ln -s /usr/bin/beryl ~/.kde/Autostart/beryl Would the Beryl setup interfere somehow with the nVidia drivers?? Right now everything is working just fine openGL-wise: GL-screensavers, googleEarth, etc and I'd be rather in an I-wanna-kill-somebody-mood if it breaks because of the Beryl setup... Any hints from your experiences?? TIA, Martin If you choose Xgl, you will experience performance and quality issues when using 3D applications like googleearth or ut2004. I would suggest using NV-GLX (or AIGLX, with which i have no experience, though). These use the normal X server, so if you choose another window manager, for instance kwin, you'll get the system as before, even when running because beryl-manager lets you choose the window manager while running X (and KDE). Another additional tip: create another (two) session type(s) following the instructions under Eine Lösung, die für beide... from here: http://de.opensuse.org/Beryl (german) or here: http://www.suseforums.net/index.php?showtopic=28796hl=xsession+beryl (english) (And don't use aquamarine, it does not work (yet), unfortunately.) So you can choose to use beryl or not at login. If it doesn't run instantly you may have to run beryl manually as described in http://de.opensuse.org/Beryl and/or restart KDE a few times (i had to, and now it works fine, as expected) Another issue: frozenbubble mutates to frozensystem if beryl is running, so choose kwin before starting frozenbubble! So you should before changing to a console (and back to KDE!). Don't start more than one session with beryl at once, it does not work (here). But for example: i started a local NX session as another user with multimedia support and another on testdrive.nomachine.com, and i started frozenbubble on the local remote NX session, all under beryl (with emerald). All live on my hexagon build of six viewports, rotating as i'm dragging with the mouse. Incredible! ( Doch Achtung! Shift-F9 gibt Wasserschaden!;-) ) So i agree: go ahead! Best wishes Tim pgpzT3JNG9ZsT.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] Beryl and openSUSE 10.2 AMD64 and nVidia
On 1/4/07, Tim Gollnik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://repos.opensuse.org/xorg72/ http://repos.opensuse.org/X11:/XGL/ ftp://download.nvidia.con/opensuse/10.2 http://software.opensuse.org/download/X11:/XGL/openSUSE_10.2 They are mirrors for X11:/XGL repository so you can use packages from anywhere. To be sure i installed the packages you're using, but with the same result. But i have found a solution, i simply had to comment out the line loading v4l (automagically introduced by sax2): Load v4l -- #Load v4l Now it works. Great! This has been reported on beryl forums long time back, that is the workaround used. P.S.: Can someone figure out what's going on or where i can report this? I do not have the knowledge to further investigate the cause. If you figure out more, share with us. Cheers -J -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Beryl and openSUSE 10.2 AMD64 and nVidia
Hi there! after reading this thread and taking a look at my system (also openSuSE 10.2 on AMD64) I'm considering installing Beryl and give it a try... Anyway, what keeps me from doing it is: how do I revert to the previous state?? is it as simple as deleting the links created as described on http://en.opensuse.org/Beryl#Making_Beryl_start_automatically ?? ln -s /usr/bin/beryl-manager ~/.kde/Autostart/beryl-manager ln -s /usr/bin/beryl ~/.kde/Autostart/beryl Would the Beryl setup interfere somehow with the nVidia drivers?? Right now everything is working just fine openGL-wise: GL-screensavers, googleEarth, etc and I'd be rather in an I-wanna-kill-somebody-mood if it breaks because of the Beryl setup... Any hints from your experiences?? TIA, Martin - Original Message From: Jigish Gohil [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: opensuse@opensuse.org Sent: Thursday, January 4, 2007 1:39:16 PM Subject: Re: [opensuse] Beryl and openSUSE 10.2 AMD64 and nVidia On 1/4/07, Tim Gollnik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://repos.opensuse.org/xorg72/ http://repos.opensuse.org/X11:/XGL/ ftp://download.nvidia.con/opensuse/10.2 http://software.opensuse.org/download/X11:/XGL/openSUSE_10.2 They are mirrors for X11:/XGL repository so you can use packages from anywhere. To be sure i installed the packages you're using, but with the same result. But i have found a solution, i simply had to comment out the line loading v4l (automagically introduced by sax2): Load v4l -- #Load v4l Now it works. Great! This has been reported on beryl forums long time back, that is the workaround used. P.S.: Can someone figure out what's going on or where i can report this? I do not have the knowledge to further investigate the cause. If you figure out more, share with us. Cheers -J -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Beryl and openSUSE 10.2 AMD64 and nVidia
On 1/4/07, Martin Mielke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there! after reading this thread and taking a look at my system (also openSuSE 10.2 on AMD64) I'm considering installing Beryl and give it a try... Anyway, what keeps me from doing it is: how do I revert to the previous state?? is it as simple as deleting the links created as described on http://en.opensuse.org/Beryl#Making_Beryl_start_automatically ?? ln -s /usr/bin/beryl-manager ~/.kde/Autostart/beryl-manager ln -s /usr/bin/beryl ~/.kde/Autostart/beryl Yes deleting the links will remove beryl-manager fromstartup, although you can select to login to kwin/metacity by selecting from beryl-manager. I would advise starting beryl manually (Alt+F2 - beryl-manager or from konsole). Would the Beryl setup interfere somehow with the nVidia drivers?? Right now everything is working just fine openGL-wise: GL-screensavers, googleEarth, etc and I'd be rather in an I-wanna-kill-somebody-mood if it breaks because of the Beryl setup... Don't worry, go ahead, if the world do go bust, we'd still be around to help. Cheers -J -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Beryl
On 11/17/06, Hans van der Merwe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you post yout relevant xorg.conf sections so we can compare? I also have the same problem (white screen) with the same hardware (945GM). I have just these changes in xorg.conf http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_AIGLX#XOrg.conf_Configuration -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Beryl
On Fri, 2006-11-17 at 10:18 +0530, Jigish Gohil wrote: On 11/16/06, Hans van der Merwe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone got Beryl with AIGLX on Intel 945GM working on 10.1? Ive installed and updated from http://software.opensuse.org/download/X11:/XGL/SUSE_Linux_10.1/(for Beryl stuff) and http://software.opensuse.org/download/xorg7/Java_Sun-Java-1.5_SUSE_Linux_10.1/ (for latest xorg stuff, weird dir name?) I get Beryl to startup, splash-screen and then just white screen. Cube works, but everything is just white. Lots of howtos, but none working so far. You need to disable Xgl if using xorg7 and AIGLX. try beryl and bery-xgl from shell and see what the output is. You can Control+c to kill beryl if you get white screen. -J Done, no success. Beryl-xgl correctly states that I dont have xgl installed. Do you have it working on this hardware? And from these sources? E-Mail disclaimer: http://www.sunspace.co.za/emaildisclaimer.htm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Beryl
On 11/17/06, Hans van der Merwe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Done, no success. Beryl-xgl correctly states that I dont have xgl installed. Try with just beryl. Also check if you get compiz working? Do you have it working on this hardware? And from these sources? Yes -J -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Beryl
Em Sex, 2006-11-17 às 17:20 +0530, Jigish Gohil escreveu:
Do you have it working on this hardware? And from these sources?
Yes
Can you post yout relevant xorg.conf sections so we can compare?
I also have the same problem (white screen) with the same hardware
(945GM).
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Re: [opensuse] Beryl
On Fri, 2006-11-17 at 09:54 -0300, Mauricio Teixeira (netmask) wrote: Em Sex, 2006-11-17 às 17:20 +0530, Jigish Gohil escreveu: Do you have it working on this hardware? And from these sources? Yes Can you post yout relevant xorg.conf sections so we can compare? I also have the same problem (white screen) with the same hardware (945GM). Yes, please I have updated to the new Beryl packages as proposed, but still get white screen and output of Beryl as follows: XGL Absent, checking for NVIDIA Nvidia Absent, assuming AIGLX libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x5b beryl: No stencil buffer. Clipping of transformed windows is not going to be correct when screen is transformed. Reloading all options. beryl: pixmap 0x300018c can't be bound to texture beryl: Couldn't bind redirected window 0x1ae to texture beryl: pixmap 0x300018e can't be bound to texture beryl: Couldn't bind redirected window 0x3c7 to texture beryl: pixmap 0x3000190 can't be bound to texture beryl: Couldn't bind redirected window 0x1603838 to texture beryl: pixmap 0x3000192 can't be bound to texture beryl: Couldn't bind redirected window 0x1603473 to texture beryl: pixmap 0x3000194 can't be bound to texture beryl: Couldn't bind redirected window 0x160007b to texture beryl: pixmap 0x3000196 can't be bound to texture beryl: Couldn't bind redirected window 0x18b to texture beryl: pixmap 0x300018c can't be bound to texture beryl: Couldn't bind redirected window 0x1ae to texture beryl: pixmap 0x300018e can't be bound to texture beryl: Couldn't bind redirected window 0x3c7 to texture beryl: pixmap 0x300018c can't be bound to texture beryl: Couldn't bind redirected window 0x1ae to texture beryl: pixmap 0x300018e can't be bound to texture beryl: Couldn't bind redirected window 0x3c7 to texture beryl: pixmap 0x300018c can't be bound to texture beryl: Couldn't bind redirected window 0x1ae to texture beryl: pixmap 0x300018e can't be bound to texture .etc E-Mail disclaimer: http://www.sunspace.co.za/emaildisclaimer.htm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Beryl
Anyone got Beryl with AIGLX on Intel 945GM working on 10.1? Ive installed and updated from http://software.opensuse.org/download/X11:/XGL/SUSE_Linux_10.1/(for Beryl stuff) and http://software.opensuse.org/download/xorg7/Java_Sun-Java-1.5_SUSE_Linux_10.1/ (for latest xorg stuff, weird dir name?) I get Beryl to startup, splash-screen and then just white screen. Cube works, but everything is just white. Lots of howtos, but none working so far. E-Mail disclaimer: http://www.sunspace.co.za/emaildisclaimer.htm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Beryl
On 11/16/06, Hans van der Merwe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone got Beryl with AIGLX on Intel 945GM working on 10.1? Ive installed and updated from http://software.opensuse.org/download/X11:/XGL/SUSE_Linux_10.1/(for Beryl stuff) and http://software.opensuse.org/download/xorg7/Java_Sun-Java-1.5_SUSE_Linux_10.1/ (for latest xorg stuff, weird dir name?) I get Beryl to startup, splash-screen and then just white screen. Cube works, but everything is just white. Lots of howtos, but none working so far. You need to disable Xgl if using xorg7 and AIGLX. try beryl and bery-xgl from shell and see what the output is. You can Control+c to kill beryl if you get white screen. -J -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
