Re: [opensuse] kde and the kate editor [SOLVED]
Wendell Nichols wrote: Kate drives me nuts. Its a good editor but every time you right click to edit a file in konqueror using kate it starts a new window. If I use a command window and specify --use it will reuse an existing window if one is started for the session I specify. However because kdeinit starts it I cannot pass a parm through konqueror. So I get 30 kate windows on my desktop when all I want is one. Ideally I'd like kate to open the file I've chosen in the instance of kate which is already open ON THAT DESKTOP. Has anyone figured this out? Sorry if this is an inappropriate forum... well not all that sorry wcn Forwarded from Anders Lund kate development: You can have Kate reuse an instance by adding -u (or --use to the command line. For usage from within KDE, for example konqueror, edit the properties for the Kate application. You can read more in the online help (help:/kate) and at Kates website at www.kate-editor.org Added by me - In kde, just open menu editor, select kate and add --use to the command line after kate %U. The command line will read: kate %U --use Works like a charm! -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] kde and the kate editor
Hi On Tuesday 08 January 2008 19:45:05 Wendell Nichols wrote: Kate drives me nuts. Its a good editor but every time you right click to edit a file in konqueror using kate it starts a new window. If I use a command window and specify --use it will reuse an existing window if one is started for the session I specify. However because kdeinit starts it I cannot pass a parm through konqueror. So I get 30 kate windows on my desktop when all I want is one. Ideally I'd like kate to open the file I've chosen in the instance of kate which is already open ON THAT DESKTOP. Has anyone figured this out? Sorry if this is an inappropriate forum... well not all that sorry wcn Now the simple answer is (of course) DCOP! But how to make it work was not so easy :-) What you need to do is 1. Keep track of which virtual desktop you are on 2. Keep track of which Kate process is on which virtual desktop 3. Use DCOP to instruct (the correct) Kate to open the selected file. Here is a way to do it (with some quick'n'ugly scripts): First make a directory to keep some tempfiles mkdir ~/.kate_pid then we make 2 bash scripts, put them in your ~/bin/ or where ever you fancy. 1: start_kate.sh cut here--- #!/bin/bash # Get current virtual desktop VIRT_DESKTOP=$(dcop kwin KWinInterface currentDesktop) #Now we start kate with all the arguments that we recived kate $@ echo -n $! ~/.kate_pid/kate_pid.$VIRT_DESKTOP exit 0; cut here--- 2: kate_open_file.sh cut here--- #!/bin/bash # The encoding used, utf8 is the usual one ENCODING=utf8 # We need to find out which virtual destop we are on VIRT_DESKTOP=$(dcop kwin KWinInterface currentDesktop) # We need to see if there is a pid file for that desktop if [ -f ~/.kate_pid/kate_pid.$VIRT_DESKTOP ] ; then #Yes there was, now we need to check if the kate process #belonging to that pid is still alive #First find the pid KATE_PID=$(cat ~/.kate_pid/kate_pid.$VIRT_DESKTOP) if [ $(dcop kate-$KATE_PID /dev/null 21; echo $?) -gt 0 ] ; then #No it is not, so we start it kate $@ # and record the pid for reuse echo -n $! ~/.kate_pid/kate_pid.$VIRT_DESKTOP else # now some DCOP magic dcop kate-$KATE_PID KateApplication openURL $1 $ENCODING fi else #there was no kate_pid file so we start kate. kate $@ # and record the pid for reuse echo -n $! ~/.kate_pid/kate_pid.$VIRT_DESKTOP fi cut here--- Use the start_kate.sh wrapper to start Kate on a virtual desktop. (Not really needed) Then make a new action in Konqueror to open files, and have it run: /the/path/to/the/script/kate_open_file.sh %U That should do it :-) Notice that there is no error checking at all in the scripts, so if you use it, please make it better and post the result :-) regards Jonas -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] kde and the kate editor
Jonas Helgi Palsson wrote: Hi On Tuesday 08 January 2008 19:45:05 Wendell Nichols wrote: Kate drives me nuts. Its a good editor but every time you right click to edit a file in konqueror using kate it starts a new window. If I use a command window and specify --use it will reuse an existing window if one is started for the session I specify. However because kdeinit starts it I cannot pass a parm through konqueror. So I get 30 kate windows on my desktop when all I want is one. Ideally I'd like kate to open the file I've chosen in the instance of kate which is already open ON THAT DESKTOP. Has anyone figured this out? Sorry if this is an inappropriate forum... well not all that sorry wcn Now the simple answer is (of course) DCOP! But how to make it work was not so easy :-) What you need to do is 1. Keep track of which virtual desktop you are on 2. Keep track of which Kate process is on which virtual desktop 3. Use DCOP to instruct (the correct) Kate to open the selected file. Here is a way to do it (with some quick'n'ugly scripts): First make a directory to keep some tempfiles mkdir ~/.kate_pid then we make 2 bash scripts, put them in your ~/bin/ or where ever you fancy. 1: start_kate.sh cut here--- #!/bin/bash # Get current virtual desktop VIRT_DESKTOP=$(dcop kwin KWinInterface currentDesktop) #Now we start kate with all the arguments that we recived kate $@ echo -n $! ~/.kate_pid/kate_pid.$VIRT_DESKTOP exit 0; cut here--- 2: kate_open_file.sh cut here--- #!/bin/bash # The encoding used, utf8 is the usual one ENCODING=utf8 # We need to find out which virtual destop we are on VIRT_DESKTOP=$(dcop kwin KWinInterface currentDesktop) # We need to see if there is a pid file for that desktop if [ -f ~/.kate_pid/kate_pid.$VIRT_DESKTOP ] ; then #Yes there was, now we need to check if the kate process #belonging to that pid is still alive #First find the pid KATE_PID=$(cat ~/.kate_pid/kate_pid.$VIRT_DESKTOP) if [ $(dcop kate-$KATE_PID /dev/null 21; echo $?) -gt 0 ] ; then #No it is not, so we start it kate $@ # and record the pid for reuse echo -n $! ~/.kate_pid/kate_pid.$VIRT_DESKTOP else # now some DCOP magic dcop kate-$KATE_PID KateApplication openURL $1 $ENCODING fi else #there was no kate_pid file so we start kate. kate $@ # and record the pid for reuse echo -n $! ~/.kate_pid/kate_pid.$VIRT_DESKTOP fi cut here--- Use the start_kate.sh wrapper to start Kate on a virtual desktop. (Not really needed) Then make a new action in Konqueror to open files, and have it run: /the/path/to/the/script/kate_open_file.sh %U That should do it :-) Notice that there is no error checking at all in the scripts, so if you use it, please make it better and post the result :-) regards Jonas It looks like the source of the problem was this change in the code: Revision 499764 - (view) (download) (as text) (annotate) - [select for diffs] Modified Wed Jan 18 16:49:04 2006 UTC (23 months, 3 weeks ago) by alund File length: 10186 byte(s) Diff to previous 498190 * Kate will export the PID of the instance in the environment variable KATE_PID. You can use that to do some initialization in your ~/.bashrc file for example, if you like to open files in kate from the built in terminal: # If we are running in a konsole in kate, # $KATE_PID is the pid of that kate application instance. if [ -n $KATE_PID ] ; then # open files in this instance alias kate=kate -u -p $KATE_PID # allow creating a new instance alias kate_newinst=`which kate` fi The discussion continues and recognizes the difficulty in getting the old behavior back. Revision 495447 - (view) (download) (as text) (annotate) - [select for diffs] Modified Sun Jan 8 09:02:09 2006 UTC (2 years ago) by alund File length: 9921 byte(s) Diff to previous 465343 Always follow the configuration option for chosing a session when none is specified. I commit this, since I can't see how else we can enable old style behavior easily. The 'new' behavior can be achieved by keeping the default configuration of starting a new session. BUG: 119620 -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] kde and the kate editor
Thanks to all who responded. I've been through most of this and can't find the love :) Dragging files from konqueror to kate implies that I can view both apps, which usually means resizing two apps just to open a file. I do this hundreds of times a day so having it easy is important. Ive found that if you highlight a file, choose from the edit menu edit file type select kate from the list and press edit button; selet the appliction tab, and in the command field change kate to kate --use. This will cause the file to be opened in an existing instance of kate. Unfortunately I can't get it to open in a particular instance, ie the instance for that virtual desktop, which is what I'd like (I have 6 very busy desktops, and I'd like an instance of kate for each one). I could have kate displayed on all desktops, but then there are 30 files open in it, many of which have the same names making it hard to find the right file. I suppose I should create an enhancement request to kde, but that would take a lot of time and I'm way short of that... thanks again.. wcn Sunny wrote: On Jan 8, 2008 12:45 PM, Wendell Nichols [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kate drives me nuts. Its a good editor but every time you right click to edit a file in konqueror using kate it starts a new window. If I use a command window and specify --use it will reuse an existing window if one is started for the session I specify. However because kdeinit starts it I cannot pass a parm through konqueror. So I get 30 kate windows on my desktop when all I want is one. Ideally I'd like kate to open the file I've chosen in the instance of kate which is already open ON THAT DESKTOP. Has anyone figured this out? Sorry if this is an inappropriate forum... well not all that sorry wcn At this link there is a section Restore old behavior, check if it works for you: http://kate-editor.org/article/using_named_sessions -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] kde and the kate editor
Wendell Nichols wrote: Kate drives me nuts. Its a good editor but every time you right click to edit a file in konqueror using kate it starts a new window. If I use a command window and specify --use it will reuse an existing window if one is started for the session I specify. However because kdeinit starts it I cannot pass a parm through konqueror. So I get 30 kate windows on my desktop when all I want is one. Ideally I'd like kate to open the file I've chosen in the instance of kate which is already open ON THAT DESKTOP. Has anyone figured this out? Sorry if this is an inappropriate forum... well not all that sorry wcn It's driving me nuts too. I also have an old 9.3 box and konqueror reuses the same kate instance. Alright - who screwed Kate? Better yet, who can make her happy again? -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] kde and the kate editor
On Wednesday 09 January 2008 02:43:51 pm Wendell Nichols wrote: Dragging files from konqueror to kate implies that I can view both apps, which usually means resizing two apps just to open a file. I do this hundreds of times a day so having it easy is important. It is enough to see the corner of the kate ie. already opened document. I dropped few files on another open document, and it opened it without glitch. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] kde and the kate editor
Kate drives me nuts. Its a good editor but every time you right click to edit a file in konqueror using kate it starts a new window. If I use a command window and specify --use it will reuse an existing window if one is started for the session I specify. However because kdeinit starts it I cannot pass a parm through konqueror. So I get 30 kate windows on my desktop when all I want is one. Ideally I'd like kate to open the file I've chosen in the instance of kate which is already open ON THAT DESKTOP. Has anyone figured this out? Sorry if this is an inappropriate forum... well not all that sorry wcn -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] kde and the kate editor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wendell Nichols schreef: Kate drives me nuts. Its a good editor but every time you right click to edit a file in konqueror using kate it starts a new window. If I use a command window and specify --use it will reuse an existing window if one is started for the session I specify. However because kdeinit starts it I cannot pass a parm through konqueror. So I get 30 kate windows on my desktop when all I want is one. Ideally I'd like kate to open the file I've chosen in the instance of kate which is already open ON THAT DESKTOP. Has anyone figured this out? Sorry if this is an inappropriate forum... well not all that sorry wcn How about opening the files from within kate? - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.24-rc6-git11-3-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systeem: openSUSE 11.0 (x86_64) Alpha0 KDE: 3.5.8 release 30 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHg9T1X5/X5X6LpDgRAiBjAKClzR8MzKLaIicn5Fi2vHfbukz6zwCeNqM0 j3p2bK9LeXXs7BVwGN5LSL0= =fpz+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] kde and the kate editor
On Jan 8, 2008 10:45 AM, Wendell Nichols [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kate drives me nuts. Its a good editor but every time you right click to edit a file in konqueror using kate it starts a new window. If I use a command window and specify --use it will reuse an existing window if one is started for the session I specify. However because kdeinit starts it I cannot pass a parm through konqueror. So I get 30 kate windows on my desktop when all I want is one. Ideally I'd like kate to open the file I've chosen in the instance of kate which is already open ON THAT DESKTOP. Has anyone figured this out? Sorry if this is an inappropriate forum... well not all that sorry wcn Open first file with Kate, which should give you a Kate session. Drag subsequent files from Konqueror to the Kate instance. -- I have seen the future and I'm not in it! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] kde and the kate editor
On Tue, 8 Jan 2008, Wendell Nichols wrote:- Kate drives me nuts. Its a good editor but every time you right click to edit a file in konqueror using kate it starts a new window. If I use a command window and specify --use it will reuse an existing window if one is started for the session I specify. However because kdeinit starts it I cannot pass a parm through konqueror. So I get 30 kate windows on my desktop when all I want is one. Ideally I'd like kate to open the file I've chosen in the instance of kate which is already open ON THAT DESKTOP. Has anyone figured this out? I haven't figured it out but I can say that it used to work. I still have a 9.3 system up and running, and when asking Konqueror to open a file in Kate, it will reuse a presently running Kate. I don't know if this is the same in 10.0, but trying it in 10.1 doesn't work. Regards, David Bolt -- Team Acorn: http://www.distributed.net/ OGR-P2 @ ~100Mnodes RC5-72 @ ~15Mkeys SUSE 10.1 32bit | openSUSE 10.2 32bit | openSUSE 10.3 32bit | openSUSE 11.0a0 SUSE 10.1 64bit | openSUSE 10.2 64bit | openSUSE 10.3 64bit RISC OS 3.6 | TOS 4.02| openSUSE 10.3 PPC |RISC OS 3.11 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] kde and the kate editor
On Jan 8, 2008 12:45 PM, Wendell Nichols [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kate drives me nuts. Its a good editor but every time you right click to edit a file in konqueror using kate it starts a new window. If I use a command window and specify --use it will reuse an existing window if one is started for the session I specify. However because kdeinit starts it I cannot pass a parm through konqueror. So I get 30 kate windows on my desktop when all I want is one. Ideally I'd like kate to open the file I've chosen in the instance of kate which is already open ON THAT DESKTOP. Has anyone figured this out? Sorry if this is an inappropriate forum... well not all that sorry wcn At this link there is a section Restore old behavior, check if it works for you: http://kate-editor.org/article/using_named_sessions -- Svetoslav Milenov (Sunny) Even the most advanced equipment in the hands of the ignorant is just a pile of scrap. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
