Re: [opensuse] Opensuse - a MS patent observer?
On 4/22/07, Robert Smits [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 10 April 2007 19:07, M Harris wrote: On Tuesday 10 April 2007 21:38, Druid wrote: oh no, another newbie invading the thread I was just noticing that over that past several days of hundreds of accumulated threads related to openSUSE--- you were involved in four of them... and each and every time you managed to directly insult one of more individuals (usually with profane vulgarity) and with total disregard for the feelings of the present recipient or of the sensibilities of the people that frequent this list generally. Is there a reason for this... I mean, were you abused as a child or something..? I'm sure the real reason is that he wants us all to see if we can figure out how to use our kill filters in Kmail. That, or he's a Micro$oft troll trying to ensure open-suse mailing lists drive people away. Oh well, I have a couple of filters to add Yes, he is a jerk. I have filtered him too, as he's only trying to annoy people. I wish there was a way to ban people from a list... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Saturday 21 April 2007, Jan Karjalainen wrote: Yes, he is a jerk. I have filtered him too, as he's only trying to annoy people. I wish there was a way to ban people from a list... -- There is, but you have to run your own mailing list to do it. -- _ John Andersen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Oh well, I have a couple of filters to add add and shut up Marcio --- druid -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Apr 12, 2007 04:49 AM, M Harris wrote: Yes this deal has the appearance of giving linux a better overall saturation in the enterprise, and maybe even positive exposure for the home market... but it *hurts* the international community of linux developers generally. It hurts freedom, and it hurts computer science. You must understand that many of us fools are working very hard (not so that M$ and Linux play well together in the sandbox) rather to make certain that M$ gets scooped from the sandbox... kinda like cleaning kitty litter... :) Whereas I agree, that freedom is important ... how great a percentage of the population knows what freedom is? How great a percentage of the population respect the lives of others, or the rights of others? Try reality, faced with the option of going to bed with the thief or face hell through defending the rights of others ... 99.99% will chose the former. So, stop crying about it ... either live with it, or decide to change it. And the only way to change it ... is by defeating the enemy. - Aegroto, dum anima est, spes esse dicitur Powered by Open-Xchange.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 4/12/07, Druid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I know. That was my point. You dont have a point. no, druid ... it is you that have no point No need for cheap talking and random off-topic thoughts of yourself. Nobody is interested please do not pretend to speak for me I dont need a lesson about linux. I have no doubts that if I was actually needing one, it wouldnt be you. I do not necessarily agree with everything that M. Harris has to say. I think his views are too extreme, and that he doesn't want to accept, that there are good people and good tools that have not (yet?) caught the FOSS religion. But what he say, is said with intelligence and sometimes wit. You, on the other hand, are a fool -- at least by the example of your words. you dont have anything to say, just dont say it, there is no point in sending lots of emails with comments about ms novell deal that is not the topic of this thread, and explaining the world why you would solve and handle the situation. You are not in charge and we dont care about how it should be done, Please, again, never attempt to include ME in YOUR we ... Peter -- One of the penalties of an ecological education, is that one lives alone in a world of wounds. Aldo Leopold A Sand Count Almanac www.the-brights.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Apr 12, 07 08:00:11 -0500, Peter Van Lone wrote: On 4/12/07, Druid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I know. That was my point. You dont have a point. no, druid ... it is you that have no point No need for cheap talking and random off-topic thoughts of yourself. Nobody is interested please do not pretend to speak for me I dont need a lesson about linux. I have no doubts that if I was actually needing one, it wouldnt be you. Looks like there is still more fuel in this fanciful discussion. I humbly suggest to continue on opensuse-flamewar. cheers, Jw. -- o \ Juergen Weigert paint it green! __/ _===.===_ V | [EMAIL PROTECTED] wide open suse_/_---|\/ \ | 0911 74053-508 (tm)__/ (//\ (/) | __/ _/ \_ vim:set sw=2 wm=8 SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nuernberg) Oral agreements are worth about as much as the paper they are written on. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 2007-04-11 16:24, SOTL wrote: snip As one can see by going to Distro Watch http://distrowatch.com/ That is just a counter for the number of page hits to distrowatch.com/distro_name. Those numbers are meaningless. I occasionally inflate the oppositions' numbers myself, looking to see what new and exciting things they are doing. -- Moral indignation is jealousy with a halo. -- HG Wells -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Find me one now after the MS deal, and find one about 10.2 release have a good day Marcio --- druid On 4/10/07, M Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 10 April 2007 20:27, Druid wrote: Im waiting for the updates, but since you are clueless, Im not sure if there will be any Well, lets see, just a quick poke through the Slashdot archives at random finds enough suse press clues that even a lame druid can understand (if trolls could read)... nope not a suse press release for decades shesh. SUSE Linux Enterprise 10 Released On July 17th, 2006 with 36 comments MrHoolio writes SUSE Linux Enterprise 10 has been officially released. This long-awaited/anticipated release is a make-or-break release for Novell. It... Linux » SuSE, Linux Business, Linux SUSE Linux Becomes openSUSE On July 13th, 2006 with 55 comments houghi writes With the anouncement of the release of SUSE Linux 10.2 Alpha 2 there is also an anouncement that SUSE Linux will be renamend to openSUSE. A... SUSE Linux Enterprise 10, a Closer Look On July 8th, 2006 with 273 comments Tripperfish writes Mad Penguin's Adam Doxtater has published an in-depth review of SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 10, Novell's alleged 'Vista Killer.' From the... Novell Releases SUSE Linux Enterprise RC3 On June 29th, 2006 with 38 comments MrHoolio writes Yesterday morning Novell publicly annouced the free availability of release candidate 3 of the SUSE Linux Enterprise 10 products. Both the... -- Kind regards, M Harris -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Druid wrote: right, novell marketing folks? Can you read this? If you can, remind next time to not PAY the people that are trying to bring down your company, product and your salary don't follow such advice, you would be charged of censorship... If you (not Novell, the other readers) don't like slashdot content, submit articles... if a great many of such you may have some published jdd -- http://www.dodin.net Lucien Dodin, inventeur http://lucien.dodin.net/index.shtml -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 4/11/07, jdd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Druid wrote: right, novell marketing folks? Can you read this? If you can, remind next time to not PAY the people that are trying to bring down your company, product and your salary don't follow such advice, you would be charged of censorship... yeah, jdd, lets make some barbecue and hamburger ads in some vegetarian community site. What do you think? Marcio --- druid -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 4/10/07, Druid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: right, novell marketing folks? Can you read this? If you can, remind next time to not PAY the people that are trying to bring down your company, product and your salary 2 inaccuracies here: 1)really that is not how marketing works. You notice that Microsoft brings adverts to Linux-focused publications. Why? Because advertising is about eyeballs and name recognition. 2)Slashdot is NOT trying to bring down Novell. How siully. There are some Slashdot submitters/editors that have this bias, yes. But, I look at Slashdot each day (I find it a convenient and sometimes interesting sweep of thing going on) and I must say that I have also seen some Suse-positive posts and plenty of positive comments to even the posts that are negative. Slashdot is a business ...they as an entity could care less about the fate of Suse. Finally, I agree that the tone of the slashdot post was ridiculous. The title Open Suse hobbled by Microsoft patent agreement or some such thing ... plain absurd. Just wrong. The poster (who may have had an agenda, who knows) failed to do even a tiny bit of looking into the thing. P PS -- please, the name calling and shouting at each other is boring. If you have a take, state it, and then if others argue against it, argue with a tiny bit of civility. Please. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Opensuse - a MS patent observer?
Find me one now after the MS deal, and find one about 10.2 release have a good day Marcio --- druid On 4/10/07, M Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 10 April 2007 20:27, Druid wrote: Im waiting for the updates, but since you are clueless, Im not sure if there will be any Well, lets see, just a quick poke through the Slashdot archives at random finds enough suse press clues that even a lame druid can understand (if trolls could read)... nope not a suse press release for decades shesh. SUSE Linux Enterprise 10 Released On July 17th, 2006 with 36 comments MrHoolio writes SUSE Linux Enterprise 10 has been officially released. This long-awaited/anticipated release is a make-or-break release for Novell. It... Linux » SuSE, Linux Business, Linux SUSE Linux Becomes openSUSE On July 13th, 2006 with 55 comments houghi writes With the anouncement of the release of SUSE Linux 10.2 Alpha 2 there is also an anouncement that SUSE Linux will be renamend to openSUSE. A... SUSE Linux Enterprise 10, a Closer Look On July 8th, 2006 with 273 comments Tripperfish writes Mad Penguin's Adam Doxtater has published an in-depth review of SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 10, Novell's alleged 'Vista Killer.' From the... Novell Releases SUSE Linux Enterprise RC3 On June 29th, 2006 with 38 comments MrHoolio writes Yesterday morning Novell publicly annouced the free availability of release candidate 3 of the SUSE Linux Enterprise 10 products. Both the... -- Kind regards, M Harris -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 08:15:54AM -0500, Peter Van Lone wrote: On 4/10/07, Druid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: right, novell marketing folks? Can you read this? If you can, remind next time to not PAY the people that are trying to bring down your company, product and your salary 2 inaccuracies here: 1)really that is not how marketing works. You notice that Microsoft brings adverts to Linux-focused publications. Why? Because advertising is about eyeballs and name recognition. 2)Slashdot is NOT trying to bring down Novell. How siully. There are some Slashdot submitters/editors that have this bias, yes. But, I look at Slashdot each day (I find it a convenient and sometimes interesting sweep of thing going on) and I must say that I have also seen some Suse-positive posts and plenty of positive comments to even the posts that are negative. Slashdot is a business ...they as an entity could care less about the fate of Suse. Finally, I agree that the tone of the slashdot post was ridiculous. The title Open Suse hobbled by Microsoft patent agreement or some such thing ... plain absurd. Just wrong. The poster (who may have had an agenda, who knows) failed to do even a tiny bit of looking into the thing. Slashdot is in for 1 thing, just like any other journal, publicity. So any controversial topic they can get their hands on is Good News for them. ;) Ciao, Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Btw. here's another official statement from our PR folks: http://www.novell.com/prblogs/?m=20070410 Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpUT2PtLq6um.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] Opensuse - a MS patent observer?
On Tuesday 10 April 2007 20:48, dwain wrote: On Tuesday 10 April 2007 20:42, Druid wrote: On 4/10/07, Druid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stay Tuned For Updates , dude. Im waiting for the updates, but since you are clueless, Im not sure if there will be any Im still waiting, bozo At the risk of getting too involved in this flame war, would one of you clue me in as to the updates that are being waited for? I understand that M$ and Novell have cut some kind of a deal so are the updates you are waiting for dealing with updates about the deal or updates for opensuse? Kindly regards, Dwain As one can see by going to Distro Watch http://distrowatch.com/ Open SuSE is ranked number 2. A position it has helled for years just as Ubuntu has helled the number one position for years. RankDistributionH.P.D* 1 Ubuntu 2682 2 openSUSE2229 3 Fedora 1552 4 PCLinux OS1269 5 MEPIS1174 6 Mandriva1039 7 Debian 979 8 Sabayon 811 9 DamnSmall772 10 Slackware 672 11 KNOPPIX 606 12 Gentoo 571 13 Zenwalk 548 14 Mint537 15 Kubuntu 496 16 FreeBSD 490 17 Vector 441 18 Freespire 436 19 Puppy 433 20 Dreamlinux 412 21 CentOS 406 22 Ubuntu CE 351 23 Arch315 24 Elive 298 25 Xubuntu 294 26 Xandros 290 27 SLAX289 28 Red Hat 281 29 PC-BSD 250 30 KANOTIX 228 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Opensuse - a MS patent observer?
On Wednesday 11 April 2007 08:27, Druid wrote: Find me one now after the MS deal, and find one about 10.2 release have a good day Marcio Yes, I know. That was my point. The Novell deal with M$ offended the Linux community... a little like high treason--- just without the rope. You must understand that Novell can say (and has said) that SLES and SLED (and maybe openSUSE also) are the *only* linux distros sanctioned by M$... against which FUD... and more FUD to come... will coerce IT managers to use SLED SLES vs RHES (or fedora) (whatever)... many many many people also make their living distribution linux... as it should be... and Novell steps in with M$ to continue the strong arm coercion tactics that M$ is famous for... bah. Yes this deal has the appearance of giving linux a better overall saturation in the enterprise, and maybe even positive exposure for the home market... but it *hurts* the international community of linux developers generally. It hurts freedom, and it hurts computer science. You must understand that many of us fools are working very hard (not so that M$ and Linux play well together in the sandbox) rather to make certain that M$ gets scooped from the sandbox... kinda like cleaning kitty litter... :) Novell lost its Slashdot internet presence when it decided to play the coercion card with M$. The deal with Slashdot is not that they are giving preferential treatment to Ubuntu (for instance) but rather more importantly they are making a simple statement regarding freedom. I respect your opinion, and your job/salary... I understand all of that. But more important to me than my salary... where I work... etc,... is that freedom comes first. Some of us work towards a list... its not lame, and its not foolishness: No closed / proprietary software, period. No closed formats... MP3, Flash, etc No closed exclusionary deals No coercive marketing tactics... I'll make you a bet... you break the pact with M$ and whalla... it will be front page news on Slashdot... probably for days... and then followed by a clean review of 10.3a and why Suse is the better way to go (vs Ubuntu) for newbies blah blah blah Frankly a lot of folks are still trying to figure out how they feel about it... now, you may feel that Slashdot is irrelevant now... but who cares what capitalism thinks about free expression... on the other hand... you might want to consider that free expression can benefit the right capitalist who puts her/his money in the right places... and putting Novell money with M$ was a mistake that will have ranging consequences. (two cents) (if you want to talk about it, please don't swear at me, thanks) Best to you and yours.., -- Kind regards, M Harris -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Wednesday 11 April 2007 08:32, Andreas Jaeger wrote: Btw. here's another official statement from our PR folks: http://www.novell.com/prblogs/?m=20070410 Andreas Thanks, Andreas. That is what I want to keep seeing from Novell... good solid communication helps everyone. -- Kind regards, M Harris -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Yes, I know. That was my point. You dont have a point. You are just trying to repeat bla bla bla about community and linux and other stuff to look cool, because you have no content to add. Its not even an aoppinion about nothing, just lots of non sense to try to be a good person, when in fact you were trolling, and you continue to the ms-novell references in a way to annoy me, so I can curse at you some more. No need for cheap talking and random off-topic thoughts of yourself. Nobody is interested I dont need a lesson about linux. I have no doubts that if I was actually needing one, it wouldnt be you. If you were so clear you wouldnt need to send several emails for clarifications and saying this is what I wanted to say. Again, if you dont have anything to say, just dont say it, there is no point in sending lots of emails with comments about ms novell deal that is not the topic of this thread, and explaining the world why you would solve and handle the situation. You are not in charge and we dont care about how it should be done, how you would have done. Stop the offtopic bullshit. Stop explaining the feelings of you and your slashdotters best friends. Probably you are just too irrelevant to make us hear once again in another thread thst is not about the ms novell deal your thoughts and cryings. Marcio --- druid -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Opensuse - a MS patent observer?
On Tuesday 10 April 2007 07:06, Emils wrote: http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/04/10/0252229from=rss openSUSE 10.2 no longer enables ClearType. (which would improve the appearance of fonts) The reason given on the openSUSE mailing list for not enabling it is, 'this feature is covered by several Microsoft patents and should not be activated in any default build of the library.' As reported on and discussed, this matter may be connected to the Microsoft-Novell deal. If so, Novell should have received a license for the Microsoft patents, assuming the deal covered all relevant patents. Does the license therefore extend only to SUSE, but not openSUSE? That is what has been said from the beginning, that the deal was NOT a patent license and that no patented code would make its way into the official Suse or openSuse, regardless of the deal. Same as with MP3, etc. The conspiracy theorists are surprised their fears did not become reality? CFL -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Tuesday, 10. April 2007 15:06:43 Emils wrote: openSUSE 10.2 no longer enables ClearType. (which would improve the The upstream freetype (no longer?) enables it by default, and afaik SUSE has always used the upstream freetype compilation options. The reason given on the openSUSE mailing list for not enabling it is, 'this Which was just a quote of an include header of Freetype. As reported on and discussed, this matter may be connected to the Microsoft Novell deal. If so, Novell should have received a license for the Microsoft patents, assuming the deal covered all relevant patents. Does the license therefore extend only to SUSE, but not openSUSE? The deal is simply not about allowing usage/introduction of patents. Period. Bye, Steve -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Tuesday 10 April 2007 14:06, Emils wrote: http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/04/10/0252229from=rss openSUSE 10.2 no longer enables ClearType. (which would improve the appearance of fonts) Is that the same ClearType that makes the fonts go all fuzzy in Windows? I love that feature , it makes me feel like I've had a 4-pack of Special Brew. Cheers, James. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Emils [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/04/10/0252229from=rss openSUSE 10.2 no longer enables ClearType. (which would improve the appearance of fonts) The reason given on the openSUSE mailing list for not enabling it is, 'this feature is covered by several Microsoft patents and should not be activated in any default build of the library.' As reported on and discussed, this matter may be connected The quote comes from the upstream freetype author, see include/freetype/config/ftoption.h: /* Note that this feature is covered by several Microsoft patents*/ /* and should not be activated in any default build of the library. */ The default of Freetype2 is to not enable it. We did not change the default of the upstream package - it was enabled in the upstream version we used in 10.1 and it was disabled in the upstream version we used in 10.2. We just never changed the default settings. to the Microsoft-Novell deal. If so, Novell should have received a license for the Microsoft patents, assuming the deal covered all relevant patents. Does the license therefore extend only to SUSE, but not openSUSE? We do not have a license for any Microsoft patents, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpf6Qjrifjrf.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] Opensuse - a MS patent observer?
- Original Message From: James Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: opensuse@opensuse.org Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 7:36:12 AM Subject: Re: [opensuse] Opensuse - a MS patent observer? On Tuesday 10 April 2007 14:06, Emils wrote: http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/04/10/0252229from=rss openSUSE 10.2 no longer enables ClearType. (which would improve the appearance of fonts) Is that the same ClearType that makes the fonts go all fuzzy in Windows? I love that feature , it makes me feel like I've had a 4-pack of Special Brew. -- Probably. If you're using a monitor. It's meant for LCD displays. But I'll take the Carlsberg any time ; *Hic* Simon Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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slashdot: a place for ubuntu fanboys and clueless suse trolls On 4/10/07, Simon Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message From: James Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: opensuse@opensuse.org Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 7:36:12 AM Subject: Re: [opensuse] Opensuse - a MS patent observer? On Tuesday 10 April 2007 14:06, Emils wrote: http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/04/10/0252229from=rss openSUSE 10.2 no longer enables ClearType. (which would improve the appearance of fonts) Is that the same ClearType that makes the fonts go all fuzzy in Windows? I love that feature , it makes me feel like I've had a 4-pack of Special Brew. -- Probably. If you're using a monitor. It's meant for LCD displays. But I'll take the Carlsberg any time ; *Hic* Simon Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Probably. If you're using a monitor. It's meant for LCD displays. But I'll take the Carlsberg any time ; It looks even worse on LCD imho. Jakub Friedl -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Apr 10, 07 16:16:49 +0200, Jakub Friedl wrote: Probably. If you're using a monitor. It's meant for LCD displays. But I'll take the Carlsberg any time ; It looks even worse on LCD imho. We did extensive evaluation on the effects of the various settings. First we assumed that subpixel hinting was just plain broken. Later we found that some people (including myself) simply prefer crisp letters with as less blurr as possible. cheers, Jw. -- o \ Juergen Weigert paint it green! __/ _===.===_ V | [EMAIL PROTECTED] wide open suse_/_---|\/ \ | 0911 74053-508 (tm)__/ (//\ (/) | __/ _/ \_ vim:set sw=2 wm=8 SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nuernberg) Oral agreements are worth about as much as the paper they are written on. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Tuesday 10 April 2007 16:27, Stephan Binner wrote: As reported on and discussed, this matter may be connected to the Microsoft Novell deal. If so, Novell should have received a license for the Microsoft patents, assuming the deal covered all relevant patents. Does the license therefore extend only to SUSE, but not openSUSE? The deal is simply not about allowing usage/introduction of patents. Period. Does Microsoft now agree on this? -- // Janne -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Does Microsoft now agree on this? -- // Janne Does your mom agree you should have something to do right now? Play with new toys? Marcio --- Druid -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Tuesday 10 April 2007 06:36, James Watkins wrote: On Tuesday 10 April 2007 14:06, Emils wrote: http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/04/10/0252229from=rss openSUSE 10.2 no longer enables ClearType. (which would improve the appearance of fonts) Is that the same ClearType that makes the fonts go all fuzzy in Windows? I love that feature , it makes me feel like I've had a 4-pack of Special Brew. The whole business of optimizing font rendering on low-to-medium-resolution devices such as CRTs and LCD displays is very non-trivial. I have found that it takes a lot of trial-and-error experimentation to get a combination of font rendering parameters and type faces for any given video card / display combination. It should be noted that VGA introduces a very noticeable amount of blur, as well. It seems to go unnoticed with CRTs, but becomes starkly visible in an A/B comparison with a DVI-connected LCD display. But even then, it depends on the video interface, whether VGA or DVI. Tom's Hardware did an in-depth review of DVI cards a few years ago. Their conclusion was that ATI had the best, and it's what I chose when I got my first DVI-equipped LCD display. I am very pleased with the quality of its video and especially its type display (once the system software is suitably optimized, of course). The best I've ever done is under SuSE Linux 10.0 with the so-called bytecode interpreter enabled. The final version of openSUSE 10.2 does almost as well. I've never got a Windows installation to do as well. And Adobe (of all people) doesn't do all that well in Reader, either, which handles all its own font rendering. Cheers, James. Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Opensuse - a MS patent observer?
Janne Karhunen wrote: On Tuesday 10 April 2007 16:27, Stephan Binner wrote: As reported on and discussed, this matter may be connected to the Microsoft Novell deal. If so, Novell should have received a license for the Microsoft patents, assuming the deal covered all relevant patents. Does the license therefore extend only to SUSE, but not openSUSE? The deal is simply not about allowing usage/introduction of patents. Period. Does Microsoft now agree on this? As I understand it, that was an agreement not to sue, not a licence to use. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Tue, 2007-04-10 at 16:06 +0300, Emils wrote: http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/04/10/0252229from=rss Are the conspirationist already running out of idea? Here a couple to put down in your pipe and smoke on a bit. - openSUSE 10.3 will ship on Cd made of pure cocaine: now sold by the quarter gram. - Novell/SUSE eat babies ... for real i found a pampers and the remaining of a leg in my 10.2 box. - Novell/SUSE is the new SCO. Oh! but were SCO failed Novell shall succeed MUHAHAHAhahahahaha... .. . Nah overused already :( - Novell/SUSE goal is to fund tons of open source project then subtly inject them with Microsoft IP just for the heck of it ... it's not like we are trying to run a Linux business here anyway. - Z0MG!!1one - Reason? Who the f*** care ... All aboard the FUD wagon Yippee! OK now if the /. trolls crowd would please move along normal service should be resumed, Thanks you please come again (they will anyway they just looove it). -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Slashdot is trolling for a long time about openSUSE. They dont publish a single openSUSE news for decades, unless its ms/novell FUD. Still, Novell PAYS THEM to put sles ads in their site. Congratulations to the Novell Marketing team.. And they still wonder why we think they are a bunch of STUPID people. Still, there is a post of every beta, alpha, whisper of ubuntu. Heck, there was 2 posts on debian release. But there were none about anything related to opensuse. We should ignore them, as they ignore openSUSE. The site has lost relevance its been a while, which means its goin in the right way... Marcio --- druid On 4/10/07, Jonathan Arsenault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2007-04-10 at 16:06 +0300, Emils wrote: http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/04/10/0252229from=rss Are the conspirationist already running out of idea? Here a couple to put down in your pipe and smoke on a bit. - openSUSE 10.3 will ship on Cd made of pure cocaine: now sold by the quarter gram. - Novell/SUSE eat babies ... for real i found a pampers and the remaining of a leg in my 10.2 box. - Novell/SUSE is the new SCO. Oh! but were SCO failed Novell shall succeed MUHAHAHAhahahahaha... .. . Nah overused already :( - Novell/SUSE goal is to fund tons of open source project then subtly inject them with Microsoft IP just for the heck of it ... it's not like we are trying to run a Linux business here anyway. - Z0MG!!1one - Reason? Who the f*** care ... All aboard the FUD wagon Yippee! OK now if the /. trolls crowd would please move along normal service should be resumed, Thanks you please come again (they will anyway they just looove it). -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Tuesday, 10. April 2007 17:08:24 Janne Karhunen wrote: The deal is simply not about allowing usage/introduction of patents. Does Microsoft now agree on this? I don't think that there was ever disagreement about the content of the deal but rather about the comprehension of the background why each party made it. Bye, Steve -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Tuesday 10 April 2007 10:24, Druid wrote: Still, there is a post of every beta, alpha, whisper of ubuntu. Heck, there was 2 posts on debian release. But there were none about anything related to opensuse. We should ignore them, as they ignore openSUSE. The site has lost relevance its been a while, which means its goin in the right way... Druid... get a clue dude... ... Novell made a serious mistake with the community when they entered into that deal with M$. They're not trolls--- they're pissed. And you have it the other way around... they are ignoring openSUSE except today of course when they pointed out that because of the deal with M$ openSUSE fans have to live with fuzzy fonts... shsh. -- Kind regards, M Harris -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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... Novell made a serious mistake with the community when they entered into that deal with M$. They're not trolls--- they're pissed. And you have it the other way around... they are ignoring openSUSE except today of course when they pointed out that because of the deal with M$ openSUSE fans have to live with fuzzy fonts... shsh. Do I need to show you the door? If you dont like, distrowatch.com for you. You are just another troll, stfu now, will ya -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Tuesday 10 April 2007 20:16, Druid wrote: Do I need to show you the door? You couldn't show me the door with both hands, a flashlight, and a set of instructions. Stay Tuned For Updates , dude. -- Kind regards, M Harris -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Stay Tuned For Updates , dude. Im waiting for the updates, but since you are clueless, Im not sure if there will be any Marcio --- druid -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 4/10/07, Druid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stay Tuned For Updates , dude. Im waiting for the updates, but since you are clueless, Im not sure if there will be any Im still waiting, bozo -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Druid... get a clue dude... Well that is grand, maybe you should start by getting a clue yourself. ... Novell made a serious mistake with the community when they entered into that deal with M$. They're not trolls--- they're pissed. And you have it the other way around... Novell made such a serious mistake shaking about, pissed off Ubuntu and bunch of other OSS extremist all over us, we should run for cover... i can look everywhere and the only thing i see is the SAME FAN BASE that always been around the distro (and dumb ass of your like whining about thing that their little head still wasn't able to assimilate) BEEHH BE said the sheep. HO yeah that and the User Base constantly rising. they are ignoring openSUSE Ignoring isn't quite the word.. i would say playing the vulture. except today of course when they pointed out that because of the deal with M$ openSUSE fans have to live with fuzzy fonts... See what i mean by totally clueless, it is transpiring by every single vowel of the phrase... But it's alright lets just call you special. Now can you please leave now and let us rot alone we would thankful. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Tuesday 10 April 2007 20:27, Druid wrote: Im waiting for the updates, but since you are clueless, Im not sure if there will be any Well, lets see, just a quick poke through the Slashdot archives at random finds enough suse press clues that even a lame druid can understand (if trolls could read)... nope not a suse press release for decades shesh. SUSE Linux Enterprise 10 Released On July 17th, 2006 with 36 comments MrHoolio writes SUSE Linux Enterprise 10 has been officially released. This long-awaited/anticipated release is a make-or-break release for Novell. It... Linux » SuSE, Linux Business, Linux SUSE Linux Becomes openSUSE On July 13th, 2006 with 55 comments houghi writes With the anouncement of the release of SUSE Linux 10.2 Alpha 2 there is also an anouncement that SUSE Linux will be renamend to openSUSE. A... SUSE Linux Enterprise 10, a Closer Look On July 8th, 2006 with 273 comments Tripperfish writes Mad Penguin's Adam Doxtater has published an in-depth review of SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 10, Novell's alleged 'Vista Killer.' From the... Novell Releases SUSE Linux Enterprise RC3 On June 29th, 2006 with 38 comments MrHoolio writes Yesterday morning Novell publicly annouced the free availability of release candidate 3 of the SUSE Linux Enterprise 10 products. Both the... -- Kind regards, M Harris -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Tuesday 10 April 2007 20:42, Druid wrote: On 4/10/07, Druid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stay Tuned For Updates , dude. Im waiting for the updates, but since you are clueless, Im not sure if there will be any Im still waiting, bozo At the risk of getting too involved in this flame war, would one of you clue me in as to the updates that are being waited for? I understand that M$ and Novell have cut some kind of a deal so are the updates you are waiting for dealing with updates about the deal or updates for opensuse? Kindly regards, Dwain -- Dwain Alford P.O. Box 145 Winfield, Alabama 35594 telephone: 205.487.2570 cellphone: 205.495.5619 The artist may use any form which his expression demands; for his inner impulse must find suitable expression. Wassily Kandinsky, Concerning The Spiritual In Art pgpjuMyQFDrSU.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] Opensuse - a MS patent observer?
On Tuesday 10 April 2007 20:48, dwain wrote: I understand that M$ and Novell have cut some kind of a deal so are the updates you are waiting for dealing with updates about the deal or updates for opensuse? Sorry dwain... go on with your life... ... evey now and then we need to kill a dragon or two... you know... flame a troll here or there... and keep the streets safe for people who can think. Have lots of fun, and don't pay any attention to that little crazy man behind the curtain... (he's the great and powerful OZ)... -- Kind regards, M Harris -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 4/10/07, M Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 10 April 2007 20:48, dwain wrote: I understand that M$ and Novell have cut some kind of a deal so are the updates you are waiting for dealing with updates about the deal or updates for opensuse? Sorry dwain... go on with your life... ... evey now and then we need to kill a dragon or two... you know... flame a troll here or there... and keep the streets safe for people who can think. Have lots of fun, and don't pay any attention to that little crazy man behind the curtain... (he's the great and powerful OZ)... I see. So since you make a threat and dont have anything to do, and is annoyed with me (and you can bet Im not going to stop), life and novell, why dont you go cry in silence somewhere and make no further posts? thanks a lot -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 4/10/07, Druid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see. So since you make a threat and dont have anything to do, and is annoyed with me (and you can bet Im not going to stop), life and novell, why dont you go cry in silence somewhere and make no further posts? thanks a lot http://www.amazon.com/Live-at-Massey-Hall-1971/dp/B000MTPANG wow -- what a fabulous album. Nearly brings me to tears. P -- One of the penalties of an ecological education, is that one lives alone in a world of wounds. Aldo Leopold A Sand Count Almanac www.the-brights.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Tuesday 10 April 2007 21:00, Druid wrote: annoyed with me (and you can bet Im not going to stop), life and novell, why dont you go cry in silence somewhere and make no further posts? Annoyed with you? ANNOYED WITH YOU? ... you insulted the Slashdot community, made false statements regarding the integrity of those same people without basis in fact, and while completely missing the point of the Slashdot article (pointing out the first serious consequence for the community relating to the M$ deal), you decided to signoff with a personal insult for me (and anyone else with sensibilities) by telling me to stfu. Do you believe that abbreviating your vulgar disrespect for myself (and others, and yourself) makes the use of that vulgarity OK? So, if you can't communicate with anything other than vulgar [ Stupid Tongue FU ] then please be quiet. -- Kind regards, M Harris -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 4/10/07, M Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 10 April 2007 21:00, Druid wrote: annoyed with me (and you can bet Im not going to stop), life and novell, why dont you go cry in silence somewhere and make no further posts? Annoyed with you? ANNOYED WITH YOU? ... you insulted the Slashdot community, made false statements regarding the integrity of those same people without basis in fact, and while completely missing the point of the Slashdot article (pointing out the first serious consequence for the community relating to the M$ deal), you decided to signoff with a personal insult for me (and anyone else with sensibilities) by telling me to stfu. my face before insulting the slashdot community - :) my face after insulting the slashdot community - :) so jsut shut the fuck up, go to the slashdot community and get the hell out of here. This list is for opensuse, if that affect your sensible artistical ears, jsut get the fuck out of here, you prick. Go troll elsewhere. just drop it and shut your pie hole -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Tue 10 April 07 21:00, Druid wrote: On 4/10/07, M Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 10 April 2007 20:48, dwain wrote: I understand that M$ and Novell have cut some kind of a deal so are the updates you are waiting for dealing with updates about the deal or updates for opensuse? Sorry dwain... go on with your life... ... evey now and then we need to kill a dragon or two... you know... flame a troll here or there... and keep the streets safe for people who can think. Have lots of fun, and don't pay any attention to that little crazy man behind the curtain... (he's the great and powerful OZ)... I see. So since you make a threat and dont have anything to do, and is annoyed with me (and you can bet Im not going to stop), life and novell, why dont you go cry in silence somewhere and make no further posts? You first, please. thanks a lot Back at ya. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Opensuse - a MS patent observer?
oh no, another newbie invading the thread say it aint so On 4/10/07, JB2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue 10 April 07 21:00, Druid wrote: On 4/10/07, M Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 10 April 2007 20:48, dwain wrote: I understand that M$ and Novell have cut some kind of a deal so are the updates you are waiting for dealing with updates about the deal or updates for opensuse? Sorry dwain... go on with your life... ... evey now and then we need to kill a dragon or two... you know... flame a troll here or there... and keep the streets safe for people who can think. Have lots of fun, and don't pay any attention to that little crazy man behind the curtain... (he's the great and powerful OZ)... I see. So since you make a threat and dont have anything to do, and is annoyed with me (and you can bet Im not going to stop), life and novell, why dont you go cry in silence somewhere and make no further posts? You first, please. thanks a lot Back at ya. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Tue 10 April 07 20:27, Druid wrote: Nothing worth reading. PLONK -- If guns cause crime, then pencils cause misspelled words and matches cause arson. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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thanks (again) On 4/10/07, JB2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue 10 April 07 20:27, Druid wrote: Nothing worth reading. PLONK -- If guns cause crime, then pencils cause misspelled words and matches cause arson. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Tuesday 10 April 2007 21:38, Druid wrote: oh no, another newbie invading the thread I was just noticing that over that past several days of hundreds of accumulated threads related to openSUSE--- you were involved in four of them... and each and every time you managed to directly insult one of more individuals (usually with profane vulgarity) and with total disregard for the feelings of the present recipient or of the sensibilities of the people that frequent this list generally. Is there a reason for this... I mean, were you abused as a child or something..? -- Kind regards, M Harris -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 4/10/07, M Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 10 April 2007 21:38, Druid wrote: oh no, another newbie invading the thread I was just noticing that over that past several days of hundreds of accumulated threads related to openSUSE--- you were involved in four of them... and each and every time you managed to directly insult one of more individuals (usually with profane vulgarity) and with total disregard for the feelings of the present recipient or of the sensibilities of the people that frequent this list generally. Is there a reason for this... I mean, were you abused as a child or something..? no, the reason is because I dont like fools, and you are one And beside that you are bring bullshit to the mailing list, which I shouldnt really care, but this time I do, so you've got your answer. Now just shut the fuck up Marcio --- druid -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Tuesday 10 April 2007 22:07, Druid wrote: I dont like fools, and you are one And beside that you are bring bullshit to the mailing list, Who is the greater fool... the fool... or the fool who listens to one? -- Kind regards, M Harris -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 4/10/07, M Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 10 April 2007 22:07, Druid wrote: I dont like fools, and you are one And beside that you are bring bullshit to the mailing list, Who is the greater fool... ? you -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Tuesday 10 April 2007 22:22, Druid wrote: Who is the greater fool... ? you Ok... heh, one fool to another, ...guilty as charged. ... God bless you, and good night. -- Kind regards, M Harris -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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... God bless you, and good night. good night -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Druid wrote: Slashdot is trolling for a long time about openSUSE. They dont publish a single openSUSE news for decades, unless its ms/novell FUD. Complaining that there are trolls on Slashdot is like complaining that there are clowns at the circus. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 4/11/07, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Druid wrote: Slashdot is trolling for a long time about openSUSE. They dont publish a single openSUSE news for decades, unless its ms/novell FUD. Complaining that there are trolls on Slashdot is like complaining that there are clowns at the circus. yeah, it wasnt exactly a complain, it was more like a clarification.. which, some people need... right, novell marketing folks? Can you read this? If you can, remind next time to not PAY the people that are trying to bring down your company, product and your salary -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
