Re: [opensuse] Still having problems with xorg and video

2007-05-24 Thread M Harris
On Wednesday 23 May 2007 17:53, Jim Flanagan wrote:
  I'm starting to think this card is not very well
 supported, by neither ATI nor xorg. I could try my older Radeon 9200 ,
 oops, sorry, it a 9000 with 64mb ram.
Yeah, I am getting mixed signals from folks regarding these same 
cards... 
some folks are saying that the out-of-box drivers are giving 3D results... 
while others cannot get the card to work at all without the proprietary 
driver... so, I'm wondering about the firmware on the card... anyway, I think 
I'm done with ATI until they make some significant improvements... both open 
source wise, and hardware wise.



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Re: [opensuse] Still having problems with xorg and video SOLVED

2007-05-24 Thread Jim Flanagan
M Harris wrote:
 On Wednesday 23 May 2007 17:53, Jim Flanagan wrote:
   
  I'm starting to think this card is not very well
 supported, by neither ATI nor xorg. I could try my older Radeon 9200 ,
 oops, sorry, it a 9000 with 64mb ram.
 
   Yeah, I am getting mixed signals from folks regarding these same 
 cards... 
 some folks are saying that the out-of-box drivers are giving 3D results... 
 while others cannot get the card to work at all without the proprietary 
 driver... so, I'm wondering about the firmware on the card... anyway, I think 
 I'm done with ATI until they make some significant improvements... both open 
 source wise, and hardware wise.



   
Well, I finally wimped out, re-installed the whole install. There were
too many dependencies uninstalling KDE and related stuff. Got tired of
doing that. Anyways, all is working mostly fine now.

I did take out the radeon 9800 pro card and put in the older 9000. Sax2
did let me check the 3D box on tis card (not greyed out). Without 3D it
was getting about 315 fps in glxgears. With 3D it is now getting about
1650 fps or a little better. (Under my old 9.3 install it got about 1550
fps). Don't know if this is good for this card or not. This card is more
limited than the 9800, but the 9000 is working faster now than the 9800
did previously. (The 9000 would not run the install dvd at any
resolution over 1024x768).

One thing I have noticed on this install and previous ones, once every
so often glxgears seems to almost stop, or hang for a moment or two,
then back to normal. I don't' know if this is normal or not, but it has
been occurring for me on several installs, on this box anyway. (I notice
the same thing on my Tivo menus, not TV video). In the past I have
assumed this was due to me running the base video drivers and not the
ATI drivers. But at this point I dunno, and I'm not going to try to
install the ATI drivers again, at least until they update them, and I
see others having overall good success. Or I get a different brand video
card, which ever happens first!

Thanks to all for the good help.

Jim F
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Re: [opensuse] Still having problems with xorg and video SOLVED

2007-05-24 Thread M Harris
On Thursday 24 May 2007 07:21, Jim Flanagan wrote:
 In the past I have
 assumed this was due to me running the base video drivers and not the
 ATI drivers. But at this point I dunno, and I'm not going to try to
 install the ATI drivers again
Well, GL-117 flight simulator also will pause (just for a sec) every 
now and 
again... running the ATI proprietary driver. I thought it had to do either 
with my overall memory being too small, or my AGP apature being set too 
small...  3D video is one of the areas that I have not really delved into and 
so I don't technically understand yet why there are glitches.



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Re: [opensuse] Still having problems with xorg and video SOLVED

2007-05-24 Thread Jim Flanagan

M Harris wrote:

On Thursday 24 May 2007 07:21, Jim Flanagan wrote:
  

In the past I have
assumed this was due to me running the base video drivers and not the
ATI drivers. But at this point I dunno, and I'm not going to try to
install the ATI drivers again

	Well, GL-117 flight simulator also will pause (just for a sec) every now and 
again... running the ATI proprietary driver. I thought it had to do either 
with my overall memory being too small, or my AGP apature being set too 
small...  3D video is one of the areas that I have not really delved into and 
so I don't technically understand yet why there are glitches.




  
Your experience with GL-117 is better than mine. On Suse 9.3 with the 
radeon 9000 card, it would definitely pause, long and hard, as in total 
system crash. The screen would stop, could still see the scene frozen, 
but no response from the mouse, keyboard or anything. About 20 sec into 
the game. I haven't tried in on 10.2 yet, as I just got the 9000 working 
with 3D late last night. Curious to see if it works though. The slight 
pause (not the crash) has had me wondering for some time.


Thanks again for the good help.

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Re: [opensuse] Still having problems with xorg and video

2007-05-23 Thread Jim Flanagan
S Glasoe wrote:
 On Tuesday May 22 2007 11:18:59 am Jim Flanagan wrote:
   
 I did not delete ~/.kde or /tmp before reinstalling KDE. Thats a good
 idea. I think I'll delete /etc/X11 as well.
 

 Don't know if deleting /etc/X11at the same time is a good idea. I'd save that 
 for a next step.

   
 Existing other users and a new user experience the same problems.

 This may or may not be related, but clicking on My Computer on the
 desktop returns this error:
An error occurred while loading sysinfo:/:
Could not start process Unable to create io-slave:
klauncher said: Error loading 'kio_sysinfo'.

 Jim F
 

 kio_sysinfo is provided by kdebase3-SuSE-10.2-x.y.rpm I believe. Maybe you 
 are 
 missing more than a few KDE rpms. Possibly select almost everything in YaST, 
 Software Management that starts with KDE* instead of going for package 
 groups may load the missing rpms.
   
I looked thru my packages, and don't see any KDE stuff to add that might
help, only stuff like languages, arts, toys, etc. I tried uninstalling
kdebase3-SuSE and reinstalling that, but no change. I will try adding
some more KDE packages just in case.

For information sake, how do you tell a certain file is needed or
supplied by a certain package, such as kio_sysinfo belonging to kdebase3-?

Many thanks,

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Re: [opensuse] Still having problems with xorg and video

2007-05-23 Thread Jim Flanagan
BandiPat wrote:
 On Monday 21 May 2007, Jim Flanagan wrote:
   
 ===

 Ok, it sounds like you did not turn on 3D while in sax2 then.  It's
 possible that your screensavers are zonked, but more than likely, I
 would guess that you failed to accomplish everything while in sax2.
  If you do glxinfo from the shell, do you see direct rendering =
 yes there?  If it's no then guess what?  Yep, 3d is not turned on
 and you need to go back into sax2 to take care of that.  I'm
 guessing you are trying to run a 3D screensaver when you get the
 error?

  
   
 No, I did not turn on 3D in sax, but the screensaver is not 3D
 either. I'll have to wait until later in the day to work on this
 again, but I did not see how to enable 3D in sax. There is a check
 box, but it was greyed out. Is there another command in sax that will
 enable this?

 Many thanks,

 Jim F
 

 
 Jim,
 I'm not close to a SuSE machine at the moment and haven't used sax2 in a 
 long time, but there should be a check box for 3d.  Did you check to be 
 sure the card is correct and it chose the right monitor+settings?  If 
 all that is correct, the 3d should come available to you.  If not, you 
 can always edit the xorg.conf file to set it on.

 Section Module
   Load glx
   Load type1
   Load extmod
   Load dbe
   Load freetype
   Load v4l
   Load dri
 EndSection

 That's the section you want to look about.  Compare it to your xorg.conf 
 and make the necessary changes.  Be sure to restart X after making the 
 changes, then try your glxinfo again for direct rendering.

 regards,
 Lee
   
Hi Lee,

My xorg.cong contains all these lines, except the dri. The others are
there, but not in the same order. Does that matter? I have not added
dri yet, should I?

Sax2 is detecting my 9800 Pro as R350 NH. I believe that is correct. The
3D box is grayed out, don't have access to it.  I do have a spare 9200
laying around that I could throw in this machine if that would help, but
from what you indicated the 9800 Pro should work well with the default
drivers. With the default install I was only getting about 23fps in
glxgears, way too slow for this card. That is why I was trying to
install the ATI drivers. Since then I can't run either glxgears or
fglrxgears. And other stuff is not right, like screensaver.

Many thanks,

Jim F


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Re: [opensuse] Still having problems with xorg and video

2007-05-23 Thread M Harris
On Wednesday 23 May 2007 09:34, Jim Flanagan wrote:
 My xorg.cong contains all these lines, except the dri. The others are
 there, but not in the same order. Does that matter? I have not added
 dri yet, should I?
dri is the 3D ...   or, in other words, normally checking the 3D box 
(which 
is grayed out in your case) adds the dri.  Even though my 3D box was grayed 
out I was able to add the dri to the list manually to activate 3D.   Its 
worth a try.





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Re: [opensuse] Still having problems with xorg and video

2007-05-23 Thread S Glasoe
On Wednesday May 23 2007 9:33:14 am Jim Flanagan wrote:
 For information sake, how do you tell a certain file is needed or
 supplied by a certain package, such as kio_sysinfo belonging to kdebase3-?

 Many thanks,

 Jim F

pin file or RPM name

Good for a locally available way to search what was included.  pin will ask 
you to have CD1 or DVD in a drive so it can load ARCHIVES.gz 
to /var/pin/ARCHIVES.gz. From then on it will not need the CD/DVD.

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Re: [opensuse] Still having problems with xorg and video

2007-05-23 Thread BandiPat
On Wednesday 23 May 2007, Jim Flanagan wrote:
 Hi Lee,

 My xorg.cong contains all these lines, except the dri. The others
 are there, but not in the same order. Does that matter? I have not
 added dri yet, should I?

 Sax2 is detecting my 9800 Pro as R350 NH. I believe that is correct.
 The 3D box is grayed out, don't have access to it.  I do have a spare
 9200 laying around that I could throw in this machine if that would
 help, but from what you indicated the 9800 Pro should work well with
 the default drivers. With the default install I was only getting
 about 23fps in glxgears, way too slow for this card. That is why I
 was trying to install the ATI drivers. Since then I can't run either
 glxgears or fglrxgears. And other stuff is not right, like
 screensaver.

 Many thanks,

 Jim F

=
No, it doesn't matter in what order they are in, but all of them should 
be there!  Sounds like it is seeing the card correctly and I'm pretty 
sure that card is supported.  What version of xorg are you running?  If 
it's the build that came with 10.0, that version may not support that 
card fully, but will do excellent 2d.  That may be your problem and the 
reason the 3D box is greyed out to you.  I do believe 7.1 and above 
supports the 9800 fully though.  I'll look in the changelog to see what 
it says.

Either way, you should be able to add the dri module to get some 3D 
now, although it may not be exceptional, it should still work.

good luck,
Lee
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Re: [opensuse] Still having problems with xorg and video

2007-05-23 Thread Jim Flanagan
BandiPat wrote:
 On Wednesday 23 May 2007, Jim Flanagan wrote:
   
 Hi Lee,

 My xorg.cong contains all these lines, except the dri. The others
 are there, but not in the same order. Does that matter? I have not
 added dri yet, should I?

 Sax2 is detecting my 9800 Pro as R350 NH. I believe that is correct.
 The 3D box is grayed out, don't have access to it.  I do have a spare
 9200 laying around that I could throw in this machine if that would
 help, but from what you indicated the 9800 Pro should work well with
 the default drivers. With the default install I was only getting
 about 23fps in glxgears, way too slow for this card. That is why I
 was trying to install the ATI drivers. Since then I can't run either
 glxgears or fglrxgears. And other stuff is not right, like
 screensaver.

 Many thanks,

 Jim F
 

 =
 No, it doesn't matter in what order they are in, but all of them should 
 be there!  Sounds like it is seeing the card correctly and I'm pretty 
 sure that card is supported.  What version of xorg are you running?  If 
 it's the build that came with 10.0, that version may not support that 
 card fully, but will do excellent 2d.  That may be your problem and the 
 reason the 3D box is greyed out to you.  I do believe 7.1 and above 
 supports the 9800 fully though.  I'll look in the changelog to see what 
 it says.

 Either way, you should be able to add the dri module to get some 3D 
 now, although it may not be exceptional, it should still work.

 good luck,
 Lee
   
Hi all,

I will try adding the dri now. I had previously updated all xorg stuff
to the latest, which it got from one of the sources I added, (I believe
from ftp.gwdg.de..., but not sure). The version for xorg now is
7.2-146.7-i586.

Will revert.

Jim F
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Re: [opensuse] Still having problems with xorg and video

2007-05-23 Thread Jim Flanagan
Jim Flanagan wrote:
 BandiPat wrote:
   
 On Wednesday 23 May 2007, Jim Flanagan wrote:
   
 
 Hi Lee,

 My xorg.cong contains all these lines, except the dri. The others
 are there, but not in the same order. Does that matter? I have not
 added dri yet, should I?

 Sax2 is detecting my 9800 Pro as R350 NH. I believe that is correct.
 The 3D box is grayed out, don't have access to it.  I do have a spare
 9200 laying around that I could throw in this machine if that would
 help, but from what you indicated the 9800 Pro should work well with
 the default drivers. With the default install I was only getting
 about 23fps in glxgears, way too slow for this card. That is why I
 was trying to install the ATI drivers. Since then I can't run either
 glxgears or fglrxgears. And other stuff is not right, like
 screensaver.

 Many thanks,

 Jim F
 
   
 =
 No, it doesn't matter in what order they are in, but all of them should 
 be there!  Sounds like it is seeing the card correctly and I'm pretty 
 sure that card is supported.  What version of xorg are you running?  If 
 it's the build that came with 10.0, that version may not support that 
 card fully, but will do excellent 2d.  That may be your problem and the 
 reason the 3D box is greyed out to you.  I do believe 7.1 and above 
 supports the 9800 fully though.  I'll look in the changelog to see what 
 it says.

 Either way, you should be able to add the dri module to get some 3D 
 now, although it may not be exceptional, it should still work.

 good luck,
 Lee
   
 
 Hi all,

 I will try adding the dri now. I had previously updated all xorg stuff
 to the latest, which it got from one of the sources I added, (I believe
 from ftp.gwdg.de..., but not sure). The version for xorg now is
 7.2-146.7-i586.

   
OK, X will not start with the load dri in xorg.conf. Black screen of
death. I do have keyboard control, but no X. I removed it and now back
to the desktop. I'm starting to think this card is not very well
supported, by neither ATI nor xorg. I could try my older Radeon 9200 ,
oops, sorry, it a 9000 with 64mb ram. But, the problem still my be
something else which is causing glxinfo to not run.

I guess I could have just re-installed the entire 10.2 system, time wise
this would have been faster, but I don't want to do that. I really want
to figure this thing out, how this X stuff works.

So at the risk of making the one of those threads that just wont die,
I'll try another uninstall if KDE, then deleting ~/.kde (saving my kmail
file first of course), then reinstall KDE to see if that fixes the other
stuff. As to whether the radeon 9800 pro will work with 3d or not, will
find out then.

Will report back.

Many thanks,

Jim F
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Re: [opensuse] Still having problems with xorg and video

2007-05-22 Thread Jim Flanagan
Darryl Gregorash wrote:
 On 2007-05-21 06:38, Jim Flanagan wrote:
   
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 /usr/lib/libGL.so.1: undefined symbol: drmCloseOnce. This is what lead me 
 to beleive that x is not configured properly, but it may be something else. 
 Not sure what exactly the problem is. Another problem is clicking in My 
 Computer returns an i/o error. 
   
 
 That file belongs to xorg-x11-Mesa. Try re-installing that (and the
 -devel package if you are using it).


   
I did not find a package called xorg-x11-Mesa, but I did find simply
Mesa and Mesa-devel. I updated those, but did not uninstall first. They
updated from the skynet source. No change in behavior, screensaver still
returns the same error message. Did I find the right packages?

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Re: [opensuse] Still having problems with xorg and video

2007-05-22 Thread Jim Flanagan
M Harris wrote:
 On Sunday 20 May 2007 23:01, Jim Flanagan wrote:
   
 In KDEconfigure
 desktopscreensaver, I get the message:
The specified library screensaver could not be found.
The diagnosis is:
/usr/lib/libGL.so.1: undefined symbol: drmCloseOnce
 
   I'm sorry Jim, I missunderstood you... thought you couldn't get the X 
 configured correctly.  Just to make sure we're on the same page... does you X 
 setup work... in other words, do you get a desktop ?  

   So, the problem is the screensaver?  Does   xscreensaver work?  

   Just remove and reinstall the following packages:

   kdeartwork3-kscreensaver
   kdeartwork3-xscreensaver
   xscreensaver

   If this does not work, just to be clean about it, remove kde and 
 reinstall 
 kde.




   
Well, I feel like in stuck in the movie Groundhog Day. I keep getting
back to where I was, but no better off. I tried Daryl's suggestion and
updated Mesa and Mesa-devel, not change. Then i uninstalled the patterns
KDE Desktop and KDE Base. Told all the dependencies to delete as well,
system then booted into terminal, no X. The re-installed KDE and Xorg.
Now I'm back to desktop, but all is exaclty where I had left it before.
All my programs are still here, tbird etc. and screensaver still won't
work. Glxinfo still retunrs the same error message. Perhaps I should try
uninstalling KDE again, but this time delete /etc/x11?? then reinstall??

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Re: [opensuse] Still having problems with xorg and video

2007-05-22 Thread S Glasoe
On Tuesday May 22 2007 8:40:17 am Jim Flanagan wrote:
 Well, I feel like in stuck in the movie Groundhog Day. I keep getting
 back to where I was, but no better off. I tried Daryl's suggestion and
 updated Mesa and Mesa-devel, not change. Then i uninstalled the patterns
 KDE Desktop and KDE Base. Told all the dependencies to delete as well,
 system then booted into terminal, no X. The re-installed KDE and Xorg.
 Now I'm back to desktop, but all is exaclty where I had left it before.
 All my programs are still here, tbird etc. and screensaver still won't
 work. Glxinfo still retunrs the same error message. Perhaps I should try
 uninstalling KDE again, but this time delete /etc/x11?? then reinstall??

 Jim F

Can't remember if you have moved or deleted your ~/.kde directory and deleted 
everything in /tmp related to this particular login ID and then rebooted. 
That would clear out any weird settings left over from whatever. By 
un/re-installing KDE you won't get a clean ~/.kde so any possible bad or 
wrong settings are retained.

Did you create a new user ID and does it have the same problems?
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Re: [opensuse] Still having problems with xorg and video

2007-05-22 Thread S Glasoe
On Tuesday May 22 2007 11:18:59 am Jim Flanagan wrote:
 I did not delete ~/.kde or /tmp before reinstalling KDE. Thats a good
 idea. I think I'll delete /etc/X11 as well.

Don't know if deleting /etc/X11at the same time is a good idea. I'd save that 
for a next step.

 Existing other users and a new user experience the same problems.

 This may or may not be related, but clicking on My Computer on the
 desktop returns this error:
An error occurred while loading sysinfo:/:
Could not start process Unable to create io-slave:
klauncher said: Error loading 'kio_sysinfo'.

 Jim F

kio_sysinfo is provided by kdebase3-SuSE-10.2-x.y.rpm I believe. Maybe you are 
missing more than a few KDE rpms. Possibly select almost everything in YaST, 
Software Management that starts with KDE* instead of going for package 
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Re: [opensuse] Still having problems with xorg and video

2007-05-21 Thread Jim Flanagan
M Harris wrote:
 On Sunday 20 May 2007 23:01, Jim Flanagan wrote:
   
 In KDEconfigure
 desktopscreensaver, I get the message:
The specified library screensaver could not be found.
The diagnosis is:
/usr/lib/libGL.so.1: undefined symbol: drmCloseOnce
 
   I'm sorry Jim, I missunderstood you... thought you couldn't get the X 
 configured correctly.  Just to make sure we're on the same page... does you X 
 setup work... in other words, do you get a desktop ?  

   So, the problem is the screensaver?  Does   xscreensaver work?  

   Just remove and reinstall the following packages:

   kdeartwork3-kscreensaver
   kdeartwork3-xscreensaver
   xscreensaver

   If this does not work, just to be clean about it, remove kde and 
 reinstall 
 kde.




   
Sorry for not being clear. I DO get a desktop. But there are a few
things broken with my setup. One is screensaver as mentioned. Another is
glxgears, it won't run, returning the same error that screensaver does, 

/usr/lib/libGL.so.1: undefined symbol: drmCloseOnce. This is what lead me to 
beleive that x is not configured properly, but it may be something else. Not 
sure what exactly the problem is. Another problem is clicking in My Computer 
returns an i/o error. 

I tried uninstalling the screensavers, but that did not help. I'll try 
uninstalling KDE and see if that fixes the problem. 

Thanks,

Jim Flanagan
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Re: [opensuse] Still having problems with xorg and video

2007-05-21 Thread BandiPat
On Monday 21 May 2007, Jim Flanagan wrote:
 I had already tried running sax2 with the -r and -m and 0=radeon.
 Just now I tried again, but first renaming xorg.conf. This did write
 a new xorg.conf file, but nothing is improved. In KDEconfigure
 desktopscreensaver, I get the message:
    The specified library screensaver could not be found.
    The diagnosis is:
    /usr/lib/libGL.so.1: undefined symbol: drmCloseOnce

    Possible reasons:
       - An error occurred during your last KDE upgrade leaving an
 orphaned control module
       - You have old third party modules lying around.

    Check these points carefully and try to remove the module
 mentioned in the error message.
    If this fails, consider contacting your distributor or packager.

 Not sure that this is about, but has been a problem since I
 uninstalled the ATI rpm. Screensaver was working fine before I tried
 the ATI driver.

 Jim F

===

Ok, it sounds like you did not turn on 3D while in sax2 then.  It's 
possible that your screensavers are zonked, but more than likely, I 
would guess that you failed to accomplish everything while in sax2.  If 
you do glxinfo from the shell, do you see direct rendering = yes 
there?  If it's no then guess what?  Yep, 3d is not turned on and you 
need to go back into sax2 to take care of that.  I'm guessing you are 
trying to run a 3D screensaver when you get the error?

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Re: [opensuse] Still having problems with xorg and video

2007-05-21 Thread Jim Flanagan

BandiPat wrote:

On Monday 21 May 2007, Jim Flanagan wrote:
  

I had already tried running sax2 with the -r and -m and 0=radeon.
Just now I tried again, but first renaming xorg.conf. This did write
a new xorg.conf file, but nothing is improved. In KDEconfigure
desktopscreensaver, I get the message:
   The specified library screensaver could not be found.
   The diagnosis is:
   /usr/lib/libGL.so.1: undefined symbol: drmCloseOnce

   Possible reasons:
  - An error occurred during your last KDE upgrade leaving an
orphaned control module
  - You have old third party modules lying around.

   Check these points carefully and try to remove the module
mentioned in the error message.
   If this fails, consider contacting your distributor or packager.

Not sure that this is about, but has been a problem since I
uninstalled the ATI rpm. Screensaver was working fine before I tried
the ATI driver.

Jim F



===

Ok, it sounds like you did not turn on 3D while in sax2 then.  It's 
possible that your screensavers are zonked, but more than likely, I 
would guess that you failed to accomplish everything while in sax2.  If 
you do glxinfo from the shell, do you see direct rendering = yes 
there?  If it's no then guess what?  Yep, 3d is not turned on and you 
need to go back into sax2 to take care of that.  I'm guessing you are 
trying to run a 3D screensaver when you get the error?


  
No, I did not turn on 3D in sax, but the screensaver is not 3D either. 
I'll have to wait until later in the day to work on this again, but I 
did not see how to enable 3D in sax. There is a check box, but it was 
greyed out. Is there another command in sax that will enable this?


Many thanks,

Jim F
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Re: [opensuse] Still having problems with xorg and video

2007-05-21 Thread M Harris
On Monday 21 May 2007 10:06, Jim Flanagan wrote:
 There is a check box, but it was
 greyed out. Is there another command in sax that will enable this?
Well, supposedly, the card you are using should allow 3D with the 
out-of-box 
drivers... but my experience is that you need to use the ATI proprietary 
driver to get 3D working, and in that case you don't want to use the 
check-box in yast anyway   on my card the 3D check box was also grayed 
out...  



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Re: [opensuse] Still having problems with xorg and video

2007-05-21 Thread BandiPat
On Monday 21 May 2007, Jim Flanagan wrote:
  ===
 
  Ok, it sounds like you did not turn on 3D while in sax2 then.  It's
  possible that your screensavers are zonked, but more than likely, I
  would guess that you failed to accomplish everything while in sax2.
   If you do glxinfo from the shell, do you see direct rendering =
  yes there?  If it's no then guess what?  Yep, 3d is not turned on
  and you need to go back into sax2 to take care of that.  I'm
  guessing you are trying to run a 3D screensaver when you get the
  error?
 
   

 No, I did not turn on 3D in sax, but the screensaver is not 3D
 either. I'll have to wait until later in the day to work on this
 again, but I did not see how to enable 3D in sax. There is a check
 box, but it was greyed out. Is there another command in sax that will
 enable this?

 Many thanks,

 Jim F


Jim,
I'm not close to a SuSE machine at the moment and haven't used sax2 in a 
long time, but there should be a check box for 3d.  Did you check to be 
sure the card is correct and it chose the right monitor+settings?  If 
all that is correct, the 3d should come available to you.  If not, you 
can always edit the xorg.conf file to set it on.

Section Module
  Load glx
  Load type1
  Load extmod
  Load dbe
  Load freetype
  Load v4l
  Load dri
EndSection

That's the section you want to look about.  Compare it to your xorg.conf 
and make the necessary changes.  Be sure to restart X after making the 
changes, then try your glxinfo again for direct rendering.

regards,
Lee
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Re: [opensuse] Still having problems with xorg and video

2007-05-20 Thread BandiPat
On Sunday 20 May 2007, Jim Flanagan wrote:
 Hi all,

 I'm still having problems with xorg and my video card settings. The
 system is not running the correct drivers. Screensaver will not
 start. I had tried to install the ATI driver, but could not get that
 to work (previous posts). Now I'm in a sort of limbo, not in either
 setup properly.

 Do I need to reinstall the entire system to get this right? Or
 instead of a total reinstall of the system, could I uninstall xorg
 and kde, then reinstall these, on my working system? Or is there a
 way to get xorg to load the default drivers without reinstalling
 anything, and if so, how?

 Sorry for reposting this, but I still don't have this working
 correctly. (I'm running opensuse 10.2, KDE, ATI 9800 Pro AGP card).

 Many thanks,

 Jim Flanagan



Just drop down to init 3 to run sax2!  Whether you have or had the ATI 
drivers installed, you should still be able to configure the video.  A 
lot of times having a buggy/bad xorg.conf will prevent sax2 from 
starting, so rename/delete the old file, then run sax2 or just try the 
below first.

You may have to use sax2 -r -m 0=radeon, which will start from scratch 
using the xorg radeon module.

ctrl-alt-F1
login as root
init 3
sax2 -r -m 0=radeon  (be sure to test your settings before exiting sax2)

init 5


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Re: [opensuse] Still having problems with xorg and video

2007-05-20 Thread M Harris
On Sunday 20 May 2007 20:42, Jim Flanagan wrote:
 Or instead
 of a total reinstall of the system, could I uninstall xorg and kde, then
 reinstall these, on my working system?
Jim, remove or rename your  /etc/X11/xorg.conf  file.

Then run this at a black screen alt-F1 console as root:

init 3

sax2  -r  -m  0=radeon


Go through the setup... this should get your xorg.conf file back to 
something 
similar to your installation configuration.  No, you don't need to reinstall 
your system... although, I must admit that I was forced to do that some short 
time ago (before I realized the  -r  switch was so useful).



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Re: [opensuse] Still having problems with xorg and video

2007-05-20 Thread Jim Flanagan
BandiPat wrote:
 On Sunday 20 May 2007, Jim Flanagan wrote:
   
 Hi all,

 I'm still having problems with xorg and my video card settings. The
 system is not running the correct drivers. Screensaver will not
 start. I had tried to install the ATI driver, but could not get that
 to work (previous posts). Now I'm in a sort of limbo, not in either
 setup properly.

 Do I need to reinstall the entire system to get this right? Or
 instead of a total reinstall of the system, could I uninstall xorg
 and kde, then reinstall these, on my working system? Or is there a
 way to get xorg to load the default drivers without reinstalling
 anything, and if so, how?

 Sorry for reposting this, but I still don't have this working
 correctly. (I'm running opensuse 10.2, KDE, ATI 9800 Pro AGP card).

 Many thanks,

 Jim Flanagan
 

 

 Just drop down to init 3 to run sax2!  Whether you have or had the ATI 
 drivers installed, you should still be able to configure the video.  A 
 lot of times having a buggy/bad xorg.conf will prevent sax2 from 
 starting, so rename/delete the old file, then run sax2 or just try the 
 below first.

 You may have to use sax2 -r -m 0=radeon, which will start from scratch 
 using the xorg radeon module.

 ctrl-alt-F1
 login as root
 init 3
 sax2 -r -m 0=radeon  (be sure to test your settings before exiting sax2)

 init 5


   
I had already tried running sax2 with the -r and -m and 0=radeon. Just
now I tried again, but first renaming xorg.conf. This did write a new
xorg.conf file, but nothing is improved. In KDEconfigure
desktopscreensaver, I get the message:
   The specified library screensaver could not be found.
   The diagnosis is:
   /usr/lib/libGL.so.1: undefined symbol: drmCloseOnce

   Possible reasons:
  - An error occurred during your last KDE upgrade leaving an
orphaned control module
  - You have old third party modules lying around.

   Check these points carefully and try to remove the module mentioned
in the error message.
   If this fails, consider contacting your distributor or packager.

Not sure that this is about, but has been a problem since I uninstalled
the ATI rpm. Screensaver was working fine before I tried the ATI driver.

Jim F


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Re: [opensuse] Still having problems with xorg and video

2007-05-20 Thread M Harris
On Sunday 20 May 2007 23:01, Jim Flanagan wrote:
 In KDEconfigure
 desktopscreensaver, I get the message:
    The specified library screensaver could not be found.
    The diagnosis is:
    /usr/lib/libGL.so.1: undefined symbol: drmCloseOnce
I'm sorry Jim, I missunderstood you... thought you couldn't get the X 
configured correctly.  Just to make sure we're on the same page... does you X 
setup work... in other words, do you get a desktop ?  

So, the problem is the screensaver?  Does   xscreensaver work?  

Just remove and reinstall the following packages:

kdeartwork3-kscreensaver
kdeartwork3-xscreensaver
xscreensaver

If this does not work, just to be clean about it, remove kde and 
reinstall 
kde.




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