[opensuse-factory] dist meeting minutes 2006-11-16

2006-11-17 Thread Andreas Jaeger

FYI, here're the minutes from our discussion.  I hope to see this for
10.3...

Andreas

Topic: Encrypted Home Directories

* Main new feature: Per user encrypted home

* Proposal:
  - Enable per user encrypted home partitions (using pam_mount)
  - use dm-crypt + LUKS as default instead of cryptoloop

Challenges + Problems:

* currently KDM accesses home directory before authentification (after
  user name is known) to get information about the last session.  An
  encrypted home partition this needs changes in the logic.

* For ssh-key it's a problem to read the key files since they are
  stored in the home directory, only password authentification would
  work.

* Other programs might read the homedirectory, like procmail.  We have
  to check which other programs do this and decide how to handle this,
  e.g. a shadow home directory (or union filesystems) for procmail,
  secret keys...

* Backup software is a challenge, users want encrypted backups.

* Manually mounting via /etc/fstab is not possible currently with
  dm-crypt, other distributions use /etc/fscrypttab or we would need
  to extra add support to allow this with /etc/fstab.

  Use-case: A separate encrypted partition with secrect data that is
  only mounted manually if needed by the user and then unmounted
  again.

* On-the-fly upgrade would be fine.  Unfortunately dm-crypt uses two
  extra blocks so this cannot be done without losing data.

* 10.2 has all the basic support for dm-crypt and LUKS but it's not
  integrated.

* Linux only supports only 255 loopback mounts, so this limits the
  maximum of users that can be logged in at the same time.

* FUSE and encrypted single files would be an option as well but there
  are some drawbacks with it.

* Use case: Laptop stolen or taken away.  If one user is comprimised,
  not all should be comprised.

* Masterkey that is encrypted by the users login, so that only one
  password is needed to login.

* screensaver issues (just close the lid)
  What happens with a locked screen and laptop taken away still running?

* suspend to disk
  How to handle suspend to disk? Umount before suspend and remount later?

Changes for this:

YaST changes:
* support dm-crypt by default for new installations in yast2-storage
* during user creation allow creation of encrypted home directories
* During update: Support old cryptoloop partitions and allow new
  installations.

Base system changes:
* Using pam_mount
* Enable dm-crypt in boot.crypto
* Handle /etc/fstab unless to not regress
* Migration programs to migrate from cryptoloop to dm-crypt


Andreas
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Ati 3D

2006-11-17 Thread Robby (M9.)
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Andreas Hanke schreef:
 Robby (M9.) schrieb:
 I found the file, but it is a sax generated file, which cannot be edited
 the way a script can be edited...

 Of course you can edit the file!

 Just ignore the comment and edit it anyway.

 (What you shouldn't do is editing xorg.conf and then filing a bug
 against SaX2 for a config file that hasn't been generated by SaX2. But
 otherwise, xorg.conf is yours and you can do with it whatever you want.)

So i did, edited and added: Loaddri to the top of the module list.
Result: no xserver: out of range.
(sax2 is handy in these situations.. ;)

While trying to edit and repair the damage in safe mode, (how to save
changes and exit here?),previous to the sax-'save', i saw:

 Section DRI
 Group  video
 Mode   0660
 EndSection

near the bottom of the file...

Does that mean that the driver is working by default, so adding dri to
load is not nessesary, or desirable, and causes to prevent the xserver
from starting?
Or do i have another option to enable the 3D support for the card?
I attached a sample of the config file...

(if no time, i am not in a hurry..)

tia.

M9.
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Re: [opensuse-factory] dist meeting minutes 2006-11-16

2006-11-17 Thread Vincenzo Barranco

Hi,
I'm sorry but i mean another thing.
I would like that yast can use apt repository, because you and the openSUSE
team removed the apt official support in SUSE 10.1, and the people that use
apt and synaptic from 9.2 are oblige to use apt with their risk.
I hope that you understand my question.

Vincenzo


[opensuse-factory] USB memory devices are mounted with root as owner and only root have write access

2006-11-17 Thread Birger Kollstrand

Hi,

I have looked around in bug reports and in the factory mailing list
but have not found the same problem.

This is in openSUSE 10.2 Beta 2. It is a fresh install from DVD.

I have a 128Mb SD memory card that I use in a USB memory card reader.
It mounts and I can read files, but not write. The ownership gets set
to root/root and only owner has write access,

The same happens when I connect my Nokia N80 with a 2 Gb memory card
and a 128Mb no name USB memory stick

Oddly enough, when I connect my Nokia 770 which have a 2Gb MMC card it
mounts as expected with the user as owner.

This is all done through the same USB memory card reader which also
has a USB port.

I checked with the phone connected to another USB port and it behaves
the same so I do count the USB memory card reader out of the problem.

/var/log/messages from the N80 connection:
Nov 17 15:23:27 norbert kernel: usb 2-3: new full speed USB device
using ohci_hcd and address 6
Nov 17 15:23:27 norbert kernel: usb 2-3: new device found,
idVendor=0421, idProduct=0446
Nov 17 15:23:27 norbert kernel: usb 2-3: new device strings: Mfr=1,
Product=2, SerialNumber=3
Nov 17 15:23:27 norbert kernel: usb 2-3: Product: Nokia N80
Nov 17 15:23:27 norbert kernel: usb 2-3: Manufacturer: Nokia
Nov 17 15:23:27 norbert kernel: usb 2-3: SerialNumber: 358361005186063
Nov 17 15:23:27 norbert kernel: usb 2-3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
Nov 17 15:23:27 norbert kernel: scsi10 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass
Storage devices
Nov 17 15:23:27 norbert kernel: usb-storage: device found at 6
Nov 17 15:23:27 norbert kernel: usb-storage: waiting for device to
settle before scanning
Nov 17 15:23:28 norbert kernel:   Vendor:   Model:
 Rev:
Nov 17 15:23:28 norbert kernel:   Type:   Direct-Access
 ANSI SCSI revision: 00
Nov 17 15:23:28 norbert kernel: SCSI device sdh: 3988232 512-byte hdwr
sectors (2042 MB)
Nov 17 15:23:28 norbert kernel: sdh: Write Protect is off
Nov 17 15:23:28 norbert kernel: sdh: Mode Sense: 03 00 00 00
Nov 17 15:23:28 norbert kernel: sdh: assuming drive cache: write through
Nov 17 15:23:28 norbert kernel: SCSI device sdh: 3988232 512-byte hdwr
sectors (2042 MB)
Nov 17 15:23:28 norbert kernel: sdh: Write Protect is off
Nov 17 15:23:28 norbert kernel: sdh: Mode Sense: 03 00 00 00
Nov 17 15:23:28 norbert kernel: sdh: assuming drive cache: write through
Nov 17 15:23:28 norbert kernel:  sdh:
Nov 17 15:23:28 norbert kernel: sd 10:0:0:0: Attached scsi removable disk sdh
Nov 17 15:23:28 norbert kernel: sd 10:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg7 type 0
Nov 17 15:23:28 norbert kernel: usb-storage: device scan complete
Nov 17 15:23:30 norbert hald: mounted /dev/sdh on behalf of uid 0



From the successfull N770 :

Nov 17 15:25:04 norbert kernel: ohci_hcd :00:02.0: wakeup
Nov 17 15:25:05 norbert kernel: usb 1-2: new full speed USB device
using ohci_hcd and address 12
Nov 17 15:25:05 norbert kernel: usb 1-2: new device found,
idVendor=0421, idProduct=0431
Nov 17 15:25:05 norbert kernel: usb 1-2: new device strings: Mfr=1,
Product=2, SerialNumber=3
Nov 17 15:25:05 norbert kernel: usb 1-2: Product: Nokia 770
Nov 17 15:25:05 norbert kernel: usb 1-2: Manufacturer: Nokia
Nov 17 15:25:05 norbert kernel: usb 1-2: SerialNumber: 3230204F6374
Nov 17 15:25:05 norbert kernel: usb 1-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
Nov 17 15:25:05 norbert kernel: scsi11 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass
Storage devices
Nov 17 15:25:05 norbert kernel: usb-storage: device found at 12
Nov 17 15:25:05 norbert kernel: usb-storage: waiting for device to
settle before scanning
Nov 17 15:25:06 norbert kernel:   Vendor: Nokia Model: 770
 Rev: 0308
Nov 17 15:25:06 norbert kernel:   Type:   Direct-Access
 ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Nov 17 15:25:06 norbert kernel: SCSI device sdg: 4078592 512-byte hdwr
sectors (2088 MB)
Nov 17 15:25:06 norbert kernel: sdg: Write Protect is off
Nov 17 15:25:06 norbert kernel: sdg: Mode Sense: 0f 00 00 00
Nov 17 15:25:06 norbert kernel: sdg: assuming drive cache: write through
Nov 17 15:25:06 norbert kernel: SCSI device sdg: 4078592 512-byte hdwr
sectors (2088 MB)
Nov 17 15:25:06 norbert kernel: sdg: Write Protect is off
Nov 17 15:25:06 norbert kernel: sdg: Mode Sense: 0f 00 00 00
Nov 17 15:25:06 norbert kernel: sdg: assuming drive cache: write through
Nov 17 15:25:06 norbert kernel:  sdg: sdg1
Nov 17 15:25:06 norbert kernel: sd 11:0:0:0: Attached scsi disk sdg
Nov 17 15:25:06 norbert kernel: sd 11:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg6 type 0
Nov 17 15:25:06 norbert kernel: usb-storage: device scan complete
Nov 17 15:25:07 norbert hald: mounted /dev/sdg1 on behalf of uid 0


So my question is, is this something to write a bug report about? Is
there anything more I can do to try to pinpoint where my problem is?

Regards Birger Kollstrand
Arendal
Norway
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Re: [opensuse-factory] USB memory devices are mounted with root as owner and only root have write access

2006-11-17 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Birger Kollstrand [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi,

 I have looked around in bug reports and in the factory mailing list
 but have not found the same problem.

in that case: please report this in bugzilla...

Andreas
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Re: [opensuse-factory] dist meeting minutes 2006-11-16

2006-11-17 Thread Marcus Rueckert
On 2006-11-17 14:39:10 +0100, Vincenzo Barranco wrote:
 I'm sorry but i mean another thing.
 I would like that yast can use apt repository, because you and the openSUSE
 team removed the apt official support in SUSE 10.1, and the people that use
 apt and synaptic from 9.2 are oblige to use apt with their risk.
 I hope that you understand my question.

i think we already have a common repository format: repomd

it can be handled by:
yast2/libzypp/zypper/zmd
apt
smart
yum
synaptik

and i maybe forgot more.

furthermore the apt sources are create from yast2/repomd repositories.
so the files are accessible there aswell.

i dont see any need in teaching yast2 apt repo format

just my 2 cents,

darix

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: USB memory devices are mounted with root as owner and only root have write access

2006-11-17 Thread Stephan Kulow
Am Freitag, 17. November 2006 15:20 schrieb Birger Kollstrand:
 I found the problem.

 I was logged in on two graphical terminal windows. One as root and one
 as as normal user. I was working in the user GUI. It seems like it was
 random which user got the ownership.

 If I only run the user GUI then it seems to work correctly each time.

 Would it be a solution that the group was set to users or that the
 owner was set to the user that responds to the Memory card pop up
 window?

The moment the popup appears the device is already mounted as people want
their devices to be mounted independently from these popups. So this is 
basically impossible to solve unless we add support almost everywhere to find
out what user you're just looking at (which is very hard and only useful for a 
handful of use cases and as such would be closed as WONTFIX ;(

Greetings, Stephan
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Re: [opensuse-factory] dist meeting minutes 2006-11-16

2006-11-17 Thread Klaus Kaempf
* Christoph Thiel [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Nov 17. 2006 15:07]:
 
 Enableing YaST to support apt repositories doesn't make a lot of sense IMHO.

At least, we won't put effort into this.

But the YasT (resp. libzypp) architecture has the flexibility to
support other repository format. So if anyone out there wants to
add 'apt' format, we will assist as time allows.

Klaus
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: USB memory devices are mounted with root as owner and only root have write access

2006-11-17 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Birger Kollstrand [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I found the problem.

 I was logged in on two graphical terminal windows. One as root and one
 as as normal user. I was working in the user GUI. It seems like it was
 random which user got the ownership.

 If I only run the user GUI then it seems to work correctly each time.

 Would it be a solution that the group was set to users or that the
 owner was set to the user that responds to the Memory card pop up
 window?

 Do you still want a bugzilla on it?

As Enhancement or minor -  for discussion perhaps.  This is really a
corner case but might bit us in other areas...

Andreas
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Re: [opensuse-factory] USB memory devices are mounted with root as owner and only root have write access

2006-11-17 Thread Juan Erbes

The bug was resolved in the package hal-remgr, but the new package
are'nt in the repos today.
rpm -q --changelog hal-resmgr | head
to verify that your hal-resmgr has bug 218393 fixed:
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* Mon Nov 13 2006 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- move all resmgr fdi files to /etc so hal applies them last (#218393)

Regards

2006/11/17, Birger Kollstrand [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Hi,

I have looked around in bug reports and in the factory mailing list
but have not found the same problem.

This is in openSUSE 10.2 Beta 2. It is a fresh install from DVD.

I have a 128Mb SD memory card that I use in a USB memory card reader.
It mounts and I can read files, but not write. The ownership gets set
to root/root and only owner has write access,

The same happens when I connect my Nokia N80 with a 2 Gb memory card
and a 128Mb no name USB memory stick

Oddly enough, when I connect my Nokia 770 which have a 2Gb MMC card it
mounts as expected with the user as owner.

This is all done through the same USB memory card reader which also
has a USB port.

I checked with the phone connected to another USB port and it behaves
the same so I do count the USB memory card reader out of the problem.

/var/log/messages from the N80 connection:
Nov 17 15:23:27 norbert kernel: usb 2-3: new full speed USB device
using ohci_hcd and address 6
Nov 17 15:23:27 norbert kernel: usb 2-3: new device found,
idVendor=0421, idProduct=0446
Nov 17 15:23:27 norbert kernel: usb 2-3: new device strings: Mfr=1,
Product=2, SerialNumber=3
Nov 17 15:23:27 norbert kernel: usb 2-3: Product: Nokia N80
Nov 17 15:23:27 norbert kernel: usb 2-3: Manufacturer: Nokia
Nov 17 15:23:27 norbert kernel: usb 2-3: SerialNumber: 358361005186063
Nov 17 15:23:27 norbert kernel: usb 2-3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
Nov 17 15:23:27 norbert kernel: scsi10 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass
Storage devices
Nov 17 15:23:27 norbert kernel: usb-storage: device found at 6
Nov 17 15:23:27 norbert kernel: usb-storage: waiting for device to
settle before scanning
Nov 17 15:23:28 norbert kernel:   Vendor:   Model:
  Rev:
Nov 17 15:23:28 norbert kernel:   Type:   Direct-Access
  ANSI SCSI revision: 00
Nov 17 15:23:28 norbert kernel: SCSI device sdh: 3988232 512-byte hdwr
sectors (2042 MB)
Nov 17 15:23:28 norbert kernel: sdh: Write Protect is off
Nov 17 15:23:28 norbert kernel: sdh: Mode Sense: 03 00 00 00
Nov 17 15:23:28 norbert kernel: sdh: assuming drive cache: write through
Nov 17 15:23:28 norbert kernel: SCSI device sdh: 3988232 512-byte hdwr
sectors (2042 MB)
Nov 17 15:23:28 norbert kernel: sdh: Write Protect is off
Nov 17 15:23:28 norbert kernel: sdh: Mode Sense: 03 00 00 00
Nov 17 15:23:28 norbert kernel: sdh: assuming drive cache: write through
Nov 17 15:23:28 norbert kernel:  sdh:
Nov 17 15:23:28 norbert kernel: sd 10:0:0:0: Attached scsi removable disk sdh
Nov 17 15:23:28 norbert kernel: sd 10:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg7 type 0
Nov 17 15:23:28 norbert kernel: usb-storage: device scan complete
Nov 17 15:23:30 norbert hald: mounted /dev/sdh on behalf of uid 0


From the successfull N770 :
Nov 17 15:25:04 norbert kernel: ohci_hcd :00:02.0: wakeup
Nov 17 15:25:05 norbert kernel: usb 1-2: new full speed USB device
using ohci_hcd and address 12
Nov 17 15:25:05 norbert kernel: usb 1-2: new device found,
idVendor=0421, idProduct=0431
Nov 17 15:25:05 norbert kernel: usb 1-2: new device strings: Mfr=1,
Product=2, SerialNumber=3
Nov 17 15:25:05 norbert kernel: usb 1-2: Product: Nokia 770
Nov 17 15:25:05 norbert kernel: usb 1-2: Manufacturer: Nokia
Nov 17 15:25:05 norbert kernel: usb 1-2: SerialNumber: 3230204F6374
Nov 17 15:25:05 norbert kernel: usb 1-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
Nov 17 15:25:05 norbert kernel: scsi11 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass
Storage devices
Nov 17 15:25:05 norbert kernel: usb-storage: device found at 12
Nov 17 15:25:05 norbert kernel: usb-storage: waiting for device to
settle before scanning
Nov 17 15:25:06 norbert kernel:   Vendor: Nokia Model: 770
  Rev: 0308
Nov 17 15:25:06 norbert kernel:   Type:   Direct-Access
  ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Nov 17 15:25:06 norbert kernel: SCSI device sdg: 4078592 512-byte hdwr
sectors (2088 MB)
Nov 17 15:25:06 norbert kernel: sdg: Write Protect is off
Nov 17 15:25:06 norbert kernel: sdg: Mode Sense: 0f 00 00 00
Nov 17 15:25:06 norbert kernel: sdg: assuming drive cache: write through
Nov 17 15:25:06 norbert kernel: SCSI device sdg: 4078592 512-byte hdwr
sectors (2088 MB)
Nov 17 15:25:06 norbert kernel: sdg: Write Protect is off
Nov 17 15:25:06 norbert kernel: sdg: Mode Sense: 0f 00 00 00
Nov 17 15:25:06 norbert kernel: sdg: assuming drive cache: write through
Nov 17 15:25:06 norbert kernel:  sdg: sdg1
Nov 17 15:25:06 norbert kernel: sd 11:0:0:0: Attached scsi disk sdg
Nov 17 15:25:06 norbert kernel: sd 11:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg6 type 0
Nov 17 15:25:06 norbert kernel: usb-storage: device scan complete
Nov 17 15:25:07 norbert 

[opensuse-factory] Media for openSUSE 10.2 - additional sources, Idea?

2006-11-17 Thread Birger Kollstrand

Hi,

I noticed an earlier discussion on adding additional sources. And I
also find it tedious to add additional sources and I can not get my
kids to use openSUSE without them :-)

Would it be possible to  make a link that triggered Yast and added
the source when the user manually clicked on it?

this is a bit cryptic for the average user. Quote:
For openSUSE 10.2 or the Factory tree:
Type- rpm-md/repomd

Protocol- HTTP
Server Name - software.opensuse.org
Directory   - /download/X11:/XGL/SUSE_Factory

If this could be as a link like:
link href=http://exampledomain.no/openSUSE/yast.repo;
type=text/yast-source/

or something similar?

I'm sorry if this has been discussed earlier, but I did not find any
reference to it. probably a bit late for 10.2 anyway.

Regards Birger Kollstrand
Arendal
Norway
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Re: [opensuse-factory] dist meeting minutes 2006-11-16

2006-11-17 Thread Marcel Hilzinger
On Fri, Nov 17, 2006 at 11:58:53AM +0100, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
 
 FYI, here're the minutes from our discussion.  I hope to see this for
 10.3...
 
 Andreas
 
 Topic: Encrypted Home Directories
 
 * Main new feature: Per user encrypted home
 
 * Proposal:
   - Enable per user encrypted home partitions (using pam_mount)
   - use dm-crypt + LUKS as default instead of cryptoloop
 
 Challenges + Problems:
 
 * currently KDM accesses home directory before authentification (after
   user name is known) to get information about the last session.  An
   encrypted home partition this needs changes in the logic.
What about encrypting ~/Documents only per default? Other diretories
could be added by the user easily.

Mandriva has a very smart way and a nice gui. The encrypted folder is
loopmounted over the same folder. So you have

/home/joe/secret (which is a dm-crypt container)
/home/joe/secret (which shows the unencrypted content after giving the
right password.

Ideally Konqueror/Nautilus should ask automatically for a passphrase, when 
clicking on an encrypted container.

Of course it would be nicer to have full /home encrypted.

 
 * For ssh-key it's a problem to read the key files since they are
   stored in the home directory, only password authentification would
   work.
 
 * Other programs might read the homedirectory, like procmail.  We have
   to check which other programs do this and decide how to handle this,
   e.g. a shadow home directory (or union filesystems) for procmail,
   secret keys...
 
 * Backup software is a challenge, users want encrypted backups.
 
 * Manually mounting via /etc/fstab is not possible currently with
   dm-crypt, other distributions use /etc/fscrypttab or we would need
   to extra add support to allow this with /etc/fstab.
 
   Use-case: A separate encrypted partition with secrect data that is
   only mounted manually if needed by the user and then unmounted
   again.
 
 * On-the-fly upgrade would be fine.  Unfortunately dm-crypt uses two
   extra blocks so this cannot be done without losing data.
 
 * 10.2 has all the basic support for dm-crypt and LUKS but it's not
   integrated.
 
 * Linux only supports only 255 loopback mounts, so this limits the
   maximum of users that can be logged in at the same time.
 
 * FUSE and encrypted single files would be an option as well but there
   are some drawbacks with it.
 
 * Use case: Laptop stolen or taken away.  If one user is comprimised,
   not all should be comprised.
 
 * Masterkey that is encrypted by the users login, so that only one
   password is needed to login.
 
 * screensaver issues (just close the lid)
   What happens with a locked screen and laptop taken away still running?
 
 * suspend to disk
   How to handle suspend to disk? Umount before suspend and remount later?
 
 Changes for this:
 
 YaST changes:
 * support dm-crypt by default for new installations in yast2-storage
 * during user creation allow creation of encrypted home directories
 * During update: Support old cryptoloop partitions and allow new
   installations.
 
 Base system changes:
 * Using pam_mount
 * Enable dm-crypt in boot.crypto
 * Handle /etc/fstab unless to not regress
 * Migration programs to migrate from cryptoloop to dm-crypt
 
 
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Media for openSUSE 10.2 - additional sources, Idea?

2006-11-17 Thread Vincenzo Barranco

Hi,
It's a good idea, not only for your kids,  because there are a lot of
people that try openSUSE for the first time in they're life and don't know
how to can see a .mpg file or listen an mp3 with amarok.
For me this is a very good idea that give to openSUSE another one reason for
consider it a very simple distribution.

Vincenzo


Re: [opensuse-factory] Media for openSUSE 10.2 - additional sources, Idea?

2006-11-17 Thread Martin Schlander
Fredag 17 november 2006 16:53 skrev Birger Kollstrand:
 I noticed an earlier discussion on adding additional sources. And I
 also find it tedious to add additional sources and I can not get my
 kids to use openSUSE without them :-)

 Would it be possible to  make a link that triggered Yast and added
 the source when the user manually clicked on it?

 this is a bit cryptic for the average user.

This has been discussed endlessly..

There can be no links to packman or guru for fear of lawsuits.

It's is possible since 10.1 to add repos to both yast and zen-updater without 
having to split the url into different parts, but by copying in a complete 
url.

You should be happy that now at least the official repos can be added 
automatically.

Finally you might wanna take a look at this, a revised version will be 
available for 10.2:
http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=43378

Martin
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Media for openSUSE 10.2 - additional sources, Idea?

2006-11-17 Thread Vincenzo Barranco

Hi,
I tried this kommander script when i had 10.1, it works very well, but who
of the new user that try openSUSE for first time know this application?

Vincenzo


Re: [opensuse-factory] Media for openSUSE 10.2 - additional sources, Idea?

2006-11-17 Thread Randall R Schulz
Vincenzo,

On Friday 17 November 2006 08:35, Vincenzo Barranco wrote:
 Hi,
 I tried this kommander script when i had 10.1, it works very well,
 but who of the new user that try openSUSE for first time know this
 application?

... this kommander script ??

Which kommander script?


 Vincenzo


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[opensuse-factory] Huge fonts

2006-11-17 Thread Hugo Costelha
Hi,

I installed from the factory tree on a laptop, and I get HUGE fonts, and I 
mean really Huge, lie a work does not fit one the screen. This is under KDE.

I didn't file a bug report because I installed directly from the Factory tree 
(and as such it might be in a incorrect state), and I do not have my 
camera at hand to send a picture of this.

The panel in the bottom has the correct size, but since the fonts are so huge, 
I can only see a very, very small part of the windows, making it impossible 
to do anything under KDE. The same happens with the KDM login screen.

Any hints on how to correct this?

Hugo Costelha
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[opensuse-factory] Re: Huge fonts

2006-11-17 Thread Hugo Costelha
On Friday 17 November 2006 17:28, Hugo Costelha wrote:
 Hi,

 I installed from the factory tree on a laptop, and I get HUGE fonts, and I
 mean really Huge, lie a work does not fit one the screen. This is under
 KDE.

 I didn't file a bug report because I installed directly from the Factory
 tree (and as such it might be in a incorrect state), and I do not have
 my camera at hand to send a picture of this.

 The panel in the bottom has the correct size, but since the fonts are so
 huge, I can only see a very, very small part of the windows, making it
 impossible to do anything under KDE. The same happens with the KDM login
 screen.

 Any hints on how to correct this?


I went to runlevel 3, ran sax2, and this also gave me very Huge fonts. Just 
for you to get an idea, Automatic ocuppies the screen width.

I really have to take a picture and send it...

Hugo
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Media for openSUSE 10.2 - additional sources, Idea?

2006-11-17 Thread Andras Mantia
On Friday 17 November 2006 19:19, Randall R Schulz wrote:
 Vincenzo,

 On Friday 17 November 2006 08:35, Vincenzo Barranco wrote:
  Hi,
  I tried this kommander script when i had 10.1, it works very well,
  but who of the new user that try openSUSE for first time know this
  application?

 ... this kommander script ??

 Which kommander script?

It was in the mail:
http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=43378

Andras
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: USB memory devices are mounted with root as owner and only root have write access

2006-11-17 Thread Andras Mantia
On Friday 17 November 2006 16:29, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
 As Enhancement or minor -  for discussion perhaps.  This is really a
 corner case but might bit us in other areas...

It reminds me of an other bug present in 10.0 as well (media found 
dialog pops up for all users), but to be honest I didn't checked the 
ownership there as it always worked well.
 Ok, to be more concrete: what will happen if there is a server used for 
LTSP clients, with 10 different users logged in to it, running KDE and 
somebody inserts a media in the server itself? Will it be mounted as 
the user sitting in front of the media or with the permission of some 
random user logged in? Unfortunately I cannot test it as I won't update 
the production server unless 10.2 comes out and I play a little bit 
with it at home. ;-)

Andras

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[opensuse-factory] Re: Media for openSUSE 10.2 - additional sources, Idea?

2006-11-17 Thread Birger Kollstrand

On 17/11/06, Martin Schlander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

This has been discussed endlessly..

There can be no links to packman or guru for fear of lawsuits.

It's is possible since 10.1 to add repos to both yast and zen-updater
without
having to split the url into different parts, but by copying in a complete
url.


I understand and accept that. My suggestion was only to make it easier
to add the sources yourself. Not to include them by default. The user
should need to click on a web link and then that would serve the
needed parameters to Yast.

I will look at the mentioned script. That seems to be something that
can help me.

Regards Birger
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[opensuse-factory] Re: Huge fonts

2006-11-17 Thread Hugo Costelha
On Friday 17 November 2006 17:35, Hugo Costelha wrote:
 On Friday 17 November 2006 17:28, Hugo Costelha wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I installed from the factory tree on a laptop, and I get HUGE fonts, and
  I mean really Huge, lie a work does not fit one the screen. This is under
  KDE.
 
  I didn't file a bug report because I installed directly from the Factory
  tree (and as such it might be in a incorrect state), and I do not have
  my camera at hand to send a picture of this.
 
  The panel in the bottom has the correct size, but since the fonts are so
  huge, I can only see a very, very small part of the windows, making it
  impossible to do anything under KDE. The same happens with the KDM login
  screen.
 
  Any hints on how to correct this?

 I went to runlevel 3, ran sax2, and this also gave me very Huge fonts. Just
 for you to get an idea, Automatic ocuppies the screen width.

 I really have to take a picture and send it...

I asked sax2 to create a new configuration, and this time the generated 
configuration was right.

Comparing the two files xorg.conf files, there are a few differences, but 
probably the one that matters, is that the new xorg.conf files does not have 
DisplaySize 16 16
on the Monitor Section.

I will give it a try again with RC1, to check if the problem still occurs.

Hugo Costelha, on a monologue :)
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: Huge fonts

2006-11-17 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Hugo Costelha [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Comparing the two files xorg.conf files, there are a few differences, but 
 probably the one that matters, is that the new xorg.conf files does not have 
 DisplaySize 16 16
 on the Monitor Section.

This hit us several times - I thought this is fixed.  So, if you have
a really recent factory tree: Could you create a new bug report,
please?

I suggest to attach the xorg.conf files to the report,

Andreas
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[opensuse-factory] xorg hardware data

2006-11-17 Thread Felix Miata
The Dell P991 display (made by Sony) is apparently part of whatever
hardware data is available to select from in setting display
configuration. It's there to select, but apparently there is no data
attached to it, and DDC doesn't work on it. I still have to manually set
the aspect ratio and diagonal dimension for a proper xorg.conf to be
created. How can I get the proper 4:3 and 18.1 diagonal into the
database so I don't have to manually select these each time?
-- 
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Ati 3D

2006-11-17 Thread Manfred Tremmel
Am Freitag, 17. November 2006 12:01 schrieb Robby (M9.):

 So i did, edited and added: Loaddri to the top of the
 module list. Result: no xserver: out of range.
 (sax2 is handy in these situations.. ;)

I've allways added it on the bottom of the list.

 While trying to edit and repair the damage in safe mode, (how to save

 changes and exit here?),previous to the sax-'save', i saw:

Just boot in runlevel3, 

  Section DRI
  Group  video
  Mode   0660
  EndSection

 near the bottom of the file...

 Does that mean that the driver is working by default, so adding dri
 to load is not nessesary, or desirable, and causes to prevent the
 xserver from starting?

No, it's only to set the rights, when it's enabled.

 Or do i have another option to enable the 3D support for the card?
 I attached a sample of the config file...

You have to load the dri modul, otherwise it can't work. I've attached 
my version (at the moment SUSE 10.1 with xorg 7.2 from the buildserver, 
3D works, AIGLX not realy, the same problem as in 
http://bugs.beryl-project.org/ticket/469, but XGL doesn't work, too)

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# /.../
# SaX generated X11 config file
# Created on: 2006-10-28T21:46:09+0200.
#
# Version: 8.1
# Contact: Marcus Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED], 2005
# Contact: SaX-User list https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/sax-users
#
# Automatically generated by [ISaX] (8.1)
# PLEASE DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE!
#
Section Files
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/misc:unscaled
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/local
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/75dpi:unscaled
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/100dpi:unscaled
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/Type1
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/URW
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/Speedo
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/PEX
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/cyrillic
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/latin2/misc:unscaled
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/latin2/75dpi:unscaled
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/latin2/100dpi:unscaled
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/latin2/Type1
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/latin7/75dpi:unscaled
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/baekmuk:unscaled
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/japanese:unscaled
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/kwintv
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/truetype
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/uni:unscaled
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/CID
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/ucs/misc:unscaled
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/ucs/75dpi:unscaled
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/ucs/100dpi:unscaled
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/hellas/misc:unscaled
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/hellas/75dpi:unscaled
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/hellas/100dpi:unscaled
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/hellas/Type1
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/misc/sgi:unscaled
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/xtest
  FontPath /opt/kde3/share/fonts
  FontPath unix/:7100
  InputDevices /dev/gpmdata
  InputDevices /dev/input/mice
EndSection

Section ServerFlags
  Option   AllowMouseOpenFail on
EndSection

Section Module
  Load dbe
  Load type1
  Load freetype
  Load extmod
  Load glx
  Load dri
EndSection

Section InputDevice
  Driver   kbd
  Identifier   Keyboard[0]
  Option   Protocol Standard
  Option   XkbLayout de
  Option   XkbModel pc105
  Option   XkbRules xfree86
  Option   XkbVariant nodeadkeys
EndSection


Section InputDevice
  Driver   mouse
  Identifier   Mouse[1]
  Option   Buttons 5
  Option   Device /dev/input/mice
  Option   Name Logitech Optical USB Mouse
  Option   Protocol explorerps/2
  Option   Vendor Sysp
  Option   ZAxisMapping 4 5
EndSection

Section InputDevice
  Driver   synaptics
  Identifier   Mouse[3]
  Option   Buttons 7
  Option   Device /dev/input/mice
  Option   Emulate3Buttons on
  Option   InputFashion Mouse
  Option   Name Synaptics;Touchpad
  Option   Protocol explorerps/2
  Option   SHMConfig on
  Option   Vendor Sysp
  Option   ZAxisMapping 4 5
EndSection


Section Monitor
  DisplaySize  305 229
  HorizSync30-90
  Identifier   Monitor[0]
  ModelName[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Option   DPMS
  VendorName   -- LCD
  VertRefresh  30-60
  UseModes Modes[0]
EndSection


Section Modes
  Identifier   Modes[0]
  Modeline  1400x1050 122.61 1400 1488 1640 1880 1050 1051 1054 1087
  Modeline  1400x1050 118.42 1400 1488 1640 1880 1050 1051 1054 1086
EndSection


Section Screen
  DefaultDepth 24
  SubSection Display
Depth  15
Modes  1400x1050 
  EndSubSection
  SubSection Display
Depth  16
Modes  1400x1050 
  EndSubSection
  SubSection Display
Depth  24
Modes  1400x1050 
  EndSubSection
  SubSection Display
Depth  8
Modes  1400x1050 
  EndSubSection
  Device   Device[0]
  Identifier   

[opensuse-factory] lppasswd

2006-11-17 Thread Keith Goggin
Hi,

according to Bug 218745 - /usr/bin/lppasswd has setuid lp which does no 
longer work.


Comment #2 From Klaus Singvogel 2006-11-09 07:34:16 MST [reply]

found the cause of the problem: the daemon itself

fixed in next version.

what is meant by next version, openSUSE10.2 RC1, openSUSE10.3 or CUPS?
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: Huge fonts

2006-11-17 Thread Hugo Costelha
On Friday 17 November 2006 19:25, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
 Hugo Costelha [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  Comparing the two files xorg.conf files, there are a few differences, but
  probably the one that matters, is that the new xorg.conf files does not
  have DisplaySize 16 16
  on the Monitor Section.

 This hit us several times - I thought this is fixed.  So, if you have
 a really recent factory tree: Could you create a new bug report,
 please?

 I suggest to attach the xorg.conf files to the report,

I guess I will try installing again on Monday from the Factory tree to see how 
it goes. If I have problems then, I will file a bug report.

Hugo Costelha
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[opensuse-factory] GRASS 6.2.0 GIS

2006-11-17 Thread Keith Goggin
Hi,

Version 5.0.3-29 of GRASS is included with SuSE 10.1. Will the current stable 
GRASS 6.2.0 be included in openSUSE 10.2? 
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Re: [opensuse-factory] xorg hardware data

2006-11-17 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Felix Miata [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 The Dell P991 display (made by Sony) is apparently part of whatever
 hardware data is available to select from in setting display
 configuration. It's there to select, but apparently there is no data
 attached to it, and DDC doesn't work on it. I still have to manually set
 the aspect ratio and diagonal dimension for a proper xorg.conf to be
 created. How can I get the proper 4:3 and 18.1 diagonal into the
 database so I don't have to manually select these each time?

open a bugreport against sax2 and attach all the details,

Andreas
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Re: [opensuse-factory] GRASS 6.2.0 GIS

2006-11-17 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Keith Goggin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi,

 Version 5.0.3-29 of GRASS is included with SuSE 10.1. Will the current stable 
 GRASS 6.2.0 be included in openSUSE 10.2? 

Check the current non-oss factory tree - if it's included there, it
will be - if not, it's too late :-(

Andreas
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