Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-28 Thread Lukas Ocilka
Hans Witvliet wrote:
 On Mon, 2006-11-27 at 18:04 +0100, Lukas Ocilka wrote:
 Pascal Bleser wrote:
 What do you think ? 
 I'd rather vote for enhancing the firewall module ;)
 FTP server isn't a bad idea though, help about that is asked now and
 then on #suse (IRC).
 I have plans (and features) to enhance the firewall module in 10.3 but
 it would be nice to hear what exactly users need.

 
 IPv6 

We have these features available for IPv6 in /etc/sysconfig/SuSEfirewall2:

FW_IPv6 (no,drop,reject)
# What to do with IPv6 Packets?

FW_IPv6_REJECT_OUTGOING (yes,no)
# Reject outgoing IPv6 Packets?

These rules should also work for IPv6 if state matching is available:
FW_SERVICES_*_TCP
FW_SERVICES_*_UDP
FW_SERVICES_*_IP
FW_SERVICES_*_RPC

But SuSEfirewall2 on my 10.2 says:
Warning: ip6tables does not support state matching. Extended IPv6
support disabled.

Whence it follows that there are two issues:
1.) Enable state matching in ip6tables (maybe simple)
2.) Add handling for those two variables into yast2-firewall UI

L.



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Re: [opensuse-factory] bcm43xxx on Asus A2D Laptop HP pavilion

2006-11-28 Thread Hugo oosterkamp

Hi all

HP pavilion dv5000 (86_64) and wireless  works, thanks.
Sid, does your friend happen to have a HP pavilion dv5000 with a ATI
Xpress200 board. I want to compare notes on my screen issue. Witch goes
blank and crazy whenever I want to switch users and when I log off.

Hugo



Sid Boyce wrote:
 Martin Schlander wrote:
 Mandag 27 november 2006 15:39 skrev Stanislav Brabec:
 Peter Buschbacher wrote:
 bcm43xx: Error: Microcode bcm43xx_microcode5.fw not available or
 load
 failed.
 Known problem:

 [Bug 204826] Bcm43xx driver needs non-oss firmware
 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=204826

 I haven't tested the scripts that should be available in factory now.
 But I extracted firmware with fwcutter manually and my bcm4306 works
 like a charm with (K)NetworkManager, wpa-personal and everything.
 Life's a lot better than it was using Ndiswrapper.

 Martin
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 Coincidentally, a friend came across the same problem on a HP 64-bit
 laptop yesterday and finally got it going with fwcutter.
 Regards
 Sid.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-28 Thread Jiri Srain
Hi!

On Monday 27 November 2006 23:16, Hans Witvliet wrote:
 On Mon, 2006-11-27 at 10:26 +0100, Jiri Srain wrote:
  Hi!
 
  On Saturday 25 November 2006 19:35, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
   Hi all !
  
   As 10.2 release nears I think into future - 10.3 features - and I
   would like to request massive updates in Yast - that is - new modules
   that I would like to see:
  
   1. Swap Manager (Yast GUI to manage swap files  partitions)
   2. FTP Server (Yast GUI to manage vsFTPd)
   3. SSH Server (Yast GUI to manage openssh)
   4. NX Server (Yast GUI to manage FreeNX terminal server, based on ssh)
   5. Sax3D (Yast/Sax GUI to manage XGL/AIGLX  Compiz for 3D Desktop
   Effects)
 
  Before you start writing any new module, please, get in touch with
  someone from the YaST team in SUSE in order to check that the module is
  notbeing developed by us and won't appear in next Alpha snapshot ;-)
  AFAIK FTP server module is already being developed (but don't know the
  state of it ATM). SSH server module is being used as example in the YaST
  tutorial.

 Any plans for:
 -NIC-bonding?

I hope that this one will appear in one of the first Alpha snapshots of 10.3.

 -VLAN-config

This one is on our radar as well, however, at the moment I cannot tell when it 
will be ready.

 -Asterisk configuration (zaptel, chan-capi, chan-iax )

Here I don't know about any specific plans.

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[opensuse-factory] Call for testing: New kernel released for 10.2

2006-11-28 Thread Andreas Jaeger

We just released a new kernel package that contains the latest fixes
via online update for 10.2.

Please install it on your systems and report if you have any new
problems.

The major changes since the RC1 kernel are:
* a couple of fixes in the SATA area
* Disabling of the This module is unsupported by Novell warnings
* Support for Intel 965 DRM
* Add acpi_user_timer_override for Asus boards
* Fixes for Xen

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Call for testing: New kernel released for 10.2

2006-11-28 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Tue, Nov 28, 2006 at 10:40:26AM +0100, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
 
 We just released a new kernel package that contains the latest fixes
 via online update for 10.2.
 
 Please install it on your systems and report if you have any new
 problems.
 
 The major changes since the RC1 kernel are:
 * a couple of fixes in the SATA area
 * Disabling of the This module is unsupported by Novell warnings
 * Support for Intel 965 DRM
 * Add acpi_user_timer_override for Asus boards
 * Fixes for Xen

Its labeled 4th test kernel update in the patch summary.

Since it is just syncing to the mirrors it might take a while to show
up on yours ;)

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Call for testing: New kernel released for 10.2

2006-11-28 Thread Stefan Dirsch
On Tue, Nov 28, 2006 at 10:40:26AM +0100, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
 
 We just released a new kernel package that contains the latest fixes
 via online update for 10.2.
 
 Please install it on your systems and report if you have any new
 problems.
 
 The major changes since the RC1 kernel are:
 * Support for Intel 965 DRM

Use sax -r -m 0=i810beta for configuration of your Intel 965 onboard
gfx device. For 3D support add ' Load dri ' to Modules section of
/etc/X11/xorg.conf. It has only been tested on a 8086:2982 (965G)
device, but it should also work with any other 965 device, i.e.

8086:2972 (946GZ)
8086:2992 (965Q)
8086:29a2 (965G)

Xgl/compiz does *not* work. You *cannot* configure it with
gnome-xgl-settings and even if you force the configuration it will
*not* work.

Best regards,
Stefan

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Call for testing: New kernel released for 10.2

2006-11-28 Thread Stefan Dirsch
On Tue, Nov 28, 2006 at 10:52:41AM +0100, Stefan Dirsch wrote:
 On Tue, Nov 28, 2006 at 10:40:26AM +0100, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
  
  We just released a new kernel package that contains the latest fixes
  via online update for 10.2.
  
  Please install it on your systems and report if you have any new
  problems.
  
  The major changes since the RC1 kernel are:
  * Support for Intel 965 DRM
 
 Use sax -r -m 0=i810beta for configuration of your Intel 965 onboard
 gfx device. For 3D support add ' Load dri ' to Modules section of
 /etc/X11/xorg.conf. It has only been tested on a 8086:2982 (965G)
 device, but it should also work with any other 965 device, i.e.
 
 8086:2972 (946GZ)
 8086:2992 (965Q)
 8086:29a2 (965G)

BTW, feedback would be appreciated.

Stefan

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Call for testing: New kernel released for 10.2

2006-11-28 Thread Robby (M9.)
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Andreas Jaeger schreef:
 We just released a new kernel package that contains the latest fixes
 via online update for 10.2.

 Please install it on your systems and report if you have any new
 problems.

 The major changes since the RC1 kernel are:
 * a couple of fixes in the SATA area
 * Disabling of the This module is unsupported by Novell warnings
 * Support for Intel 965 DRM
 * Add acpi_user_timer_override for Asus boards
 * Fixes for Xen

I did the install, but nothing was installed, (/boot too small), but
there was no fault message..
There was a message that some libxine debs were not found on the server
though

M9.

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[opensuse-factory] New Kernel....

2006-11-28 Thread Robby (M9.)
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The update was again showing.
It did not download the kernel, but acted as it was installed, no
errormessage..

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Call for testing: New kernel released for 10.2

2006-11-28 Thread Andras Mantia
On Tuesday 28 November 2006 11:45, Marcus Meissner wrote:
 Its labeled 4th test kernel update in the patch summary.

 Since it is just syncing to the mirrors it might take a while to show
 up on yours ;)

Yeah, its not here yet, but I tested anyway the update. The KDE update 
applet said there a 3 updates availanle. In the yast online update it 
showed that the libzypp update will be installed (in the left part of 
the GUI), while in the right part summary 8 packages were selected to 
update (and indeed 8 packages were updated: libzypp, sqlite-zmd, 
yast2-ncurses, yast2-perl-bindings, past2-pkg-bindings, yast2-qt, 
zypper, opensuse-updater).
 Bug or I just misunderstand something?

System is an x86_64 bit RC1, updated from mirrors.kernel.org. This was 
the first and only time I used any update for 10.2.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Call for testing: New kernel released for 10.2

2006-11-28 Thread Andras Mantia
On Tuesday 28 November 2006 12:28, Andras Mantia wrote:
 he KDE update
 applet said there a 3 updates availanle.

Forget to say which one were those:
3rd kernel update
libzypp
update-test-trivial

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Call for testing: New kernel released for 10.2

2006-11-28 Thread Andras Mantia
On Tuesday 28 November 2006 12:30, Marcus Meissner wrote:
 This is correct. The updater parts are updated first.
 Then YOU will restart and offer the other 1/2.

Ineed, it restarted (I just didn't press Close to be able to write down 
the package names ;-)) and installed the update-test-trivial.
Still why isthe difference between the number of updated and the number 
of installed packages? Or an update can mean update several packages 
that depend on each other?

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[opensuse-factory] Opensueupdater keeps checking.....

2006-11-28 Thread Robby (M9.)
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A white (disturbing) rectangular spot keeps showing while S-updater
keeps checking for updates...

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[opensuse-factory] the MS truetype fonts script has got problems

2006-11-28 Thread Frank-Michael Fischer
Retrieving kernel-default...
  Delta-RPM ./rpm/i586/kernel-default-2.6.18.2-23_31.i586.delta.rpm
wird heruntergeladen  OK
  Delta-RPM wird angewendet:

/var/adm/mount/AP_0x000d/rpm/i586/kernel-default-2.6.18.2-23_31.i586.delta.rpm
 
OK
Installation von ./rpm/i586/kernel-default-2.6.18.2-31.i586.rpm:
The Standard Kernel for both Uniprocessor and Multiprocessor
Systems   OK
Retrieving kernel-source...
  Delta-RPM ./rpm/i586/kernel-source-2.6.18.2-23_31.i586.delta.rpm
wird heruntergeladen  OK
  Delta-RPM wird angewendet:

/var/adm/mount/AP_0x000d/rpm/i586/kernel-source-2.6.18.2-23_31.i586.delta.rpm
 
OK
Installation von ./rpm/i586/kernel-source-2.6.18.2-31.i586.rpm: The
Linux Kernel Sources   OK

Skript
fetchmsttfonts.sh-2302-patch-fetchmsttfonts.sh-2-2302-1.noarch wird
gestartet
note: No proxy is used. Please set the environment variable http_proxy
note: to your favorite proxy, if you want to use a proxy for the
download.
note:
note:   bash: export http_proxy=http://proxy.provider.de:3128/;
note:   tcsh: setenv http_proxy http://proxy.provider.de:3128/;
EULA:
  Fetching   ... done

Trying to find the fastest server:
 puzzle ... 9 sec
 ovh ... 1 sec
 switch ... 1 sec
 citkit ... to slow (aborted)
 mesh ... 1 sec
 jaist ... 2 sec
 cogent ... to slow (aborted)
 kent ... 1 sec
 nchc ... 5 sec
 heanet ... 2 sec
 easynews ... 2 sec
 optusnet ... 1 sec
 voxel ... to slow (aborted)
The winner is:  ovh 

andale32.exe
(http://ovh.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/andale32.exe):
  Fetching   ... done
  Extracting ... failed ... deleted!
andale32.exe
(http://puzzle.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/andale32.exe):
  Fetching   ... failed ... deleted!
andale32.exe
(http://ovh.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/andale32.exe):
  Fetching   ... done
  Extracting ... failed ... deleted!
andale32.exe
(http://switch.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/andale32.exe):
  Fetching   ... done
  Extracting ... done
arial32.exe
(http://ovh.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/arial32.exe):
  Fetching   ... done
  Extracting ... failed ... deleted!
arial32.exe
(http://puzzle.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/arial32.exe):
  Fetching   ... failed ... deleted!
arial32.exe
(http://ovh.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/arial32.exe):
  Fetching   ... done
  Extracting ... failed ... deleted!
arial32.exe
(http://switch.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/arial32.exe):
  Fetching   ... done
  Extracting ... done
arialb32.exe
(http://ovh.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/arialb32.exe):
  Fetching   ... done
  Extracting ... failed ... deleted!
arialb32.exe
(http://puzzle.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/arialb32.exe):
  Fetching   ... failed ... deleted!
arialb32.exe
(http://ovh.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/arialb32.exe):
  Fetching   ... done
  Extracting ... failed ... deleted!
arialb32.exe
(http://switch.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/arialb32.exe):
  Fetching   ... done
  Extracting ... done
comic32.exe
(http://ovh.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/comic32.exe):
  Fetching   ... done
  Extracting ... failed ... deleted!
comic32.exe
(http://puzzle.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/comic32.exe):
  Fetching   ... failed ... deleted!
comic32.exe
(http://ovh.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/comic32.exe):
  Fetching   ... done
  Extracting ... failed ... deleted!
comic32.exe
(http://switch.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/comic32.exe):
  Fetching   ... done
  Extracting ... done
courie32.exe
(http://ovh.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/courie32.exe):
  Fetching   ... done
  Extracting ... failed ... deleted!
courie32.exe
(http://puzzle.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/courie32.exe):
  Fetching   ... failed ... deleted!
courie32.exe
(http://ovh.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/courie32.exe):
  Fetching   ... done
  Extracting ... failed ... deleted!
courie32.exe
(http://switch.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/courie32.exe):
  Fetching   ... done
  Extracting ... done
georgi32.exe
(http://ovh.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/georgi32.exe):
  Fetching   ... done
  Extracting ... failed ... deleted!
georgi32.exe
(http://puzzle.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/georgi32.exe):
  Fetching   ... failed ... deleted!
georgi32.exe
(http://ovh.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/georgi32.exe):
  Fetching   ... done
  Extracting ... failed ... deleted!
georgi32.exe

Re: [opensuse-factory] Call for testing: New kernel released for 10.2

2006-11-28 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Tue, Nov 28, 2006 at 12:35:23PM +0200, Andras Mantia wrote:
 On Tuesday 28 November 2006 12:30, Marcus Meissner wrote:
  This is correct. The updater parts are updated first.
  Then YOU will restart and offer the other 1/2.
 
 Ineed, it restarted (I just didn't press Close to be able to write down 
 the package names ;-)) and installed the update-test-trivial.
 Still why isthe difference between the number of updated and the number 
 of installed packages? Or an update can mean update several packages 
 that depend on each other?

There is a special class of updates, which update the update-stack.
(libzypp , zmd , opensuse-updater etc.).

These are applied before all others, then the update stack is restarted
to apply the rest.

Just to get fixes for the update stack in before a potential bug
with others can happen.

Ciao, Marcus
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Re: [opensuse-factory] the MS truetype fonts script has got problems

2006-11-28 Thread Andreas Hanke
Frank-Michael Fischer schrieb:
   Extracting ... failed ... deleted!
 impact32.exe
 (http://puzzle.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/impact32.exe):
 
 Anybody any idea why this happens?

Yes, it happens because this code failed:

  cabextract -l $file  /dev/null
  if [ $? -ne 0 ]; then
rm -f $file
echo failed ... deleted!

This can fail for different reasons, one of them could be that
cabextract is not installed.

Do you have cabextract installed?

Try to do the cabextract manually, what does it print?

Btw.: The script installs the fonts into
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/truetype. This should better be
/usr/share/fonts/truetype.
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Re: [opensuse-factory] the MS truetype fonts script has got problems

2006-11-28 Thread Frank-Michael Fischer
Andreas Hanke schrieb:
 Frank-Michael Fischer schrieb:
   
   Extracting ... failed ... deleted!
 impact32.exe
 (http://puzzle.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/impact32.exe):

 Anybody any idea why this happens?
 

 Yes, it happens because this code failed:

   cabextract -l $file  /dev/null
   if [ $? -ne 0 ]; then
 rm -f $file
 echo failed ... deleted!

 This can fail for different reasons, one of them could be that
 cabextract is not installed.

 Do you have cabextract installed?

 Try to do the cabextract manually, what does it print?

 Btw.: The script installs the fonts into
 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/truetype. This should better be
 /usr/share/fonts/truetype.
   

It's installed and functions. At the end all the fonts got downloaded
and installed after many, many retries. And it's unlikely that
cabextract stops working for a while and comes back again etc.

FMF


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Re: [opensuse-factory] the MS truetype fonts script has got problems

2006-11-28 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Tue, Nov 28, 2006 at 11:51:36AM +0100, Andreas Hanke wrote:
 Frank-Michael Fischer schrieb:
Extracting ... failed ... deleted!
  impact32.exe
  (http://puzzle.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/impact32.exe):
  
  Anybody any idea why this happens?
 
 Yes, it happens because this code failed:
 
   cabextract -l $file  /dev/null
   if [ $? -ne 0 ]; then
 rm -f $file
 echo failed ... deleted!
 
 This can fail for different reasons, one of them could be that
 cabextract is not installed.
 
 Do you have cabextract installed?

Since some of those downloads succeed, it is just a download error.

Please just wait until it is finished downloading.
 
 Try to do the cabextract manually, what does it print?

It is just that the mirror fails.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] the MS truetype fonts script has got problems

2006-11-28 Thread Andreas Hanke
Frank-Michael Fischer schrieb:
 And it's unlikely that
 cabextract stops working for a while and comes back again etc.

Hm, with the information that is currently available it almost looks
like exactly that.

This is the script:

http://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/update/10.2/scripts/fetchmsttfonts.sh

Download it, run it on its own (without YaST around it) and try to find
out why it fails. I tend to blame the sourceforge servers.
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[opensuse-factory] Istanbul

2006-11-28 Thread Hugo Costelha
Hi,

Anyone here tryed istanbul in RC1? I need to make a screencast, so I tryed 
istanbul. However I could no get the movie, but maybe it is beacuse I am 
doing something wrong?

(In KDE) I just ran istanbul, then an icon appeared on the tray (with a record 
image), I right-clicked to select the area to record, then I left-clicked to 
start recording (the icon changed to a stop image), then left-clicked to stop 
recording (the icon changed to a disk image). 

At this time the icon keeps the image of a disk, and right-clicking or 
left-clicking does not do anything. What was supposed to happend? Should'nt a 
popup or something appear to ask where to save the movie to?


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Re: [opensuse-factory] Call for testing: New kernel released for 10.2

2006-11-28 Thread Frank-Michael Fischer
Andreas Jaeger schrieb:
 We just released a new kernel package that contains the latest fixes
 via online update for 10.2.

 Please install it on your systems and report if you have any new
 problems.

 The major changes since the RC1 kernel are:
 * a couple of fixes in the SATA area
 * Disabling of the This module is unsupported by Novell warnings
 * Support for Intel 965 DRM
 * Add acpi_user_timer_override for Asus boards
 * Fixes for Xen

 Andreas
   

Installation went smoothly, even the sources. Only side problem:
zen-updater neither showed nor did some component from zmd find the
update. YaST2 online_update did it.

After almost a year  of testing, using and switching to other linuxes I
am really beginning to wonder, which client company will make more
profit through this zmd stuff or which private openSUSE user will have a
happier life and family through this monster. Amongst my global company
customers I did not find a single one who would decide in favour of
Linux (not even talking of Novell Linux) because zmd is there. This
stuff is not just imposed onto the community, it's imposed onto
companies as well. It has created the hugest bloat of an operation
system since MVS/VM times. It's by far the least stable component of
openSUSE and guzzles CPU cycles and time off the users and the companies.

Might sound far fetched, but the zmd adventure - being clearly of much
less tragic nature than some civilization exercises in the Middle East -
would also benefit from rethink what we are all doing when wasting time
and resources dealing with one of the most bitter jokes in software
architecture.

Get rid of it and stop throwing good money after bad money. The world
will NOT be a better place thanks to zenworks  Co.

FMF

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Call for testing: New kernel released for 10.2

2006-11-28 Thread Richard Bos
Op dinsdag 28 november 2006 11:11, schreef Robby (M9.):
 Andreas Jaeger schreef:
  We just released a new kernel package that contains the latest fixes
  via online update for 10.2.
 
  Please install it on your systems and report if you have any new
  problems.
 
  The major changes since the RC1 kernel are:
  * a couple of fixes in the SATA area
  * Disabling of the This module is unsupported by Novell warnings
  * Support for Intel 965 DRM
  * Add acpi_user_timer_override for Asus boards
  * Fixes for Xen

 I did the install, but nothing was installed, (/boot too small), but
 there was no fault message..

Is /boot really too small, or is that miscalculated by yast, see:
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=222556


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[opensuse-factory] Udate to 10.2 RC1 on 32bit PIV 1.8 Ghz. IBM..248M Ram.

2006-11-28 Thread Robby (M9.)
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Hi,

Install went better, this time the graphical installer worked without
any complaints.
Something strange happens though:
Message from updater shows: no room on /root: -750kb.
But realy there is room enough: 377.2 M, from 502,0 M.
I also got a message during install, almost no room left, continue
install anyway?
Ofcourse i ignored that, and the install went on without any errors..

http://ftp.hosteurope.de/ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/update/10.2?alias=SUSE-Linux10.2-Updates

succesfully added to updateservers, automaticly.

M9.
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Call for testing: New kernel released for 10.2

2006-11-28 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Frank-Michael Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Installation went smoothly, even the sources. Only side problem:
 zen-updater neither showed nor did some component from zmd find the
 update. YaST2 online_update did it.

We had a bug in libzypp-zmd-backend that is fixed now. :-(  I'll
upload new packages soon..

Andreas
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[opensuse-factory] Re: Istanbul

2006-11-28 Thread Hugo Costelha
On Tuesday 28 November 2006 11:05, Hugo Costelha wrote:
 Hi,

 Anyone here tryed istanbul in RC1? I need to make a screencast, so I tryed
 istanbul. However I could no get the movie, but maybe it is beacuse I am
 doing something wrong?

 (In KDE) I just ran istanbul, then an icon appeared on the tray (with a
 record image), I right-clicked to select the area to record, then I
 left-clicked to start recording (the icon changed to a stop image), then
 left-clicked to stop recording (the icon changed to a disk image).

 At this time the icon keeps the image of a disk, and right-clicking or
 left-clicking does not do anything. What was supposed to happend? Should'nt
 a popup or something appear to ask where to save the movie to?


I found the problem (more or less). I went and installed pretty much all the 
gsstreamer related libs, and now it works. So I guess there is some 
dependency missing.

Nevertheless, istanbul itself does not seem to work ok. The movie that it 
captures os no exactly what was shown on the screen. Some frames are 
completely black, and some are swicthed, so it seems that the movie keeps 
jumping forward and backward.

So, has anyone tryed istanbul? If not, what other tools are availbel on 
openSUSE 10.2 that allow to record a movied of what is going on on the screen 
and save it as ogg, or avi?

Hugo
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Re: [opensuse-factory] the MS truetype fonts script has got problems

2006-11-28 Thread Frank-Michael Fischer
Andreas Hanke schrieb:
 Frank-Michael Fischer schrieb:
   
 And it's unlikely that
 cabextract stops working for a while and comes back again etc.
 

 Hm, with the information that is currently available it almost looks
 like exactly that.

 This is the script:

 http://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/update/10.2/scripts/fetchmsttfonts.sh

 Download it, run it on its own (without YaST around it) and try to find
 out why it fails. I tend to blame the sourceforge servers.
   

Right, seems ovh.dl.sourceforge.net cab files are just plain rotten and
puzzle is not in this font business at all.

FMF


EULA:
Fetching ... done

Trying to find the fastest server:
puzzle ... to slow (aborted)
ovh ... 1 sec
switch ... 6 sec
citkit ... to slow (aborted)
mesh ... 1 sec
jaist ... 2 sec
cogent ... to slow (aborted)
kent ... 1 sec
nchc ... 3 sec
heanet ... 5 sec
easynews ... 1 sec
optusnet ... 1 sec
voxel ... to slow (aborted)
The winner is:  ovh 

andale32.exe
(http://ovh.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/andale32.exe):
Fetching ... done
Extracting ... failed ... deleted!
andale32.exe
(http://puzzle.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/andale32.exe):
Fetching ... failed ... deleted!
andale32.exe
(http://ovh.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/andale32.exe):
Fetching ... done
Extracting ... failed ... deleted!
andale32.exe
(http://switch.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/andale32.exe):
Fetching ... done
Extracting ... done
arial32.exe
(http://ovh.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/arial32.exe):
Fetching ... done
Extracting ... failed ... deleted!
arial32.exe
(http://puzzle.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/arial32.exe):
Fetching ... failed ... deleted!
arial32.exe
(http://ovh.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/arial32.exe):
Fetching ... done
Extracting ... failed ... deleted!
arial32.exe
(http://switch.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/arial32.exe):
Fetching ... done
Extracting ... done
arialb32.exe
(http://ovh.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/arialb32.exe):
Fetching ... done
Extracting ... failed ... deleted!
arialb32.exe
(http://puzzle.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/arialb32.exe):
Fetching ... failed ... deleted!
arialb32.exe
(http://ovh.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/arialb32.exe):
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arialb32.exe
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comic32.exe
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comic32.exe
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courie32.exe
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georgi32.exe
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trebuc32.exe

[opensuse-factory] Re: Istanbul

2006-11-28 Thread Hugo Costelha
On Tuesday 28 November 2006 12:27, Hugo Costelha wrote:
 On Tuesday 28 November 2006 11:05, Hugo Costelha wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Anyone here tryed istanbul in RC1? I need to make a screencast, so I
  tryed istanbul. However I could no get the movie, but maybe it is beacuse
  I am doing something wrong?
 
  (In KDE) I just ran istanbul, then an icon appeared on the tray (with a
  record image), I right-clicked to select the area to record, then I
  left-clicked to start recording (the icon changed to a stop image), then
  left-clicked to stop recording (the icon changed to a disk image).
 
  At this time the icon keeps the image of a disk, and right-clicking or
  left-clicking does not do anything. What was supposed to happend?
  Should'nt a popup or something appear to ask where to save the movie to?

 I found the problem (more or less). I went and installed pretty much all
 the gsstreamer related libs, and now it works. So I guess there is some
 dependency missing.

 Nevertheless, istanbul itself does not seem to work ok. The movie that it
 captures os no exactly what was shown on the screen. Some frames are
 completely black, and some are swicthed, so it seems that the movie keeps
 jumping forward and backward.

 So, has anyone tryed istanbul? If not, what other tools are availbel on
 openSUSE 10.2 that allow to record a movied of what is going on on the
 screen and save it as ogg, or avi?


Well, if I select Record 3D it works. So I guess that if one is using card 
acceleration, one needs to have Record 3D selected.

I had wondered what that 3D would mean...

Hugo Costelha
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-28 Thread Ludwig Nussel
Lukas Ocilka wrote:
 Pascal Bleser wrote:
  Lukas Ocilka wrote:
  Pascal Bleser wrote:
  What do you think ? 
  I'd rather vote for enhancing the firewall module ;)
  FTP server isn't a bad idea though, help about that is asked now and
  then on #suse (IRC).
  I have plans (and features) to enhance the firewall module in 10.3 but
  it would be nice to hear what exactly users need.
  
  Could you, please, give me more information? You can also send me a
  patch then :) ;)
  
  http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2006-06/msg00262.html
 
 I see, this one :)
 
 It's a planned feature for 10.3 (if possible).
 http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2006-06/msg00278.html
 http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2006-06/msg00265.html

See also /usr/share/SuSEfirewall2/services/

cu
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Re: [opensuse-factory] GRUB error - can anyone help please?

2006-11-28 Thread Felix Miata
On 2006/11/28 07:30 (GMT+-0500) Felix Miata apparently typed:

 I did a FTP install from the beta2 mirror state IIRC. Shortly after I
 did some partition rearranging, moving the factory from hda21 to hda10.
 After editing the appropriate files and running grub-install, it would
 not boot when hda10 selected from IBM Boot Manager or when hda10
 chainloaded from grub on another partition. Loading the kernel and
 initrd from grub elsewhere worked fine.

 After updating to the rc1 mirror state I reran grub-install once again,
 and now it boots from BM, and presumably also from chainload.

 The rc1 graphical grub boot menu is way cool!

I just stumbled onto a clue why my problem may have occurred, but don't
know what to make of or do about it.

I just grabbed the newest default kernel rpm via ftp and ran rpm -ivh on
it. After mkinitrd's bootsplash output came these two lines:

ERROR: Core::SplidDevPath: Cannot get device for (hd0,20)/boot/grub/stage1
ERROR: Core::SplidDevPath: Cannot get device for (hd0,20)/boot/grub/stage2

The error is understandable, as when initially installed factory was on
hda21. Now hda21 no longer exists. I moved factory to hda10 over a week ago.

What triggered the errors? What is remembering the original installation
target?

Reboot with the new 2.6.18.2-31-default kernel seemed totally normal.
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-28 Thread Ludwig Nussel
Lukas Ocilka wrote:
 Hans Witvliet wrote:
  On Mon, 2006-11-27 at 18:04 +0100, Lukas Ocilka wrote:
  Pascal Bleser wrote:
  What do you think ? 
  I'd rather vote for enhancing the firewall module ;)
  FTP server isn't a bad idea though, help about that is asked now and
  then on #suse (IRC).
  I have plans (and features) to enhance the firewall module in 10.3 but
  it would be nice to hear what exactly users need.
 
  
  IPv6 
 
 We have these features available for IPv6 in /etc/sysconfig/SuSEfirewall2:
 
 FW_IPv6 (no,drop,reject)
 # What to do with IPv6 Packets?
 
 FW_IPv6_REJECT_OUTGOING (yes,no)
 # Reject outgoing IPv6 Packets?

I don't think those options should be exposed in the UI. They are just
workarounds for kernels that lack v6 connection tracking

 These rules should also work for IPv6 if state matching is available:
 FW_SERVICES_*_TCP
 FW_SERVICES_*_UDP
 FW_SERVICES_*_IP
 FW_SERVICES_*_RPC
 
 But SuSEfirewall2 on my 10.2 says:
 Warning: ip6tables does not support state matching. Extended IPv6
 support disabled.
 
 Whence it follows that there are two issues:
 1.) Enable state matching in ip6tables (maybe simple)

The new and AFAIK still experimental connection tracking code has to
be enabled in the kernel. SuSEfirewall2 itself supports most of it's
featues also with IPv6. It's untested since SLES9 though due to lack
of kernel support.

cu
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[opensuse-factory] OSS 10.2RC1 some questions

2006-11-28 Thread Thorolf Godawa

Hi,

again I'm playing with beta software after the experience with SL 10.1 
and early SLES 10 was not so good - but 10.2 seems to but much better 
in the actual stage :-)



I'd like to use xfce as standard desktop, I think what was included in 
Beta 2 DVD but in RC1 I have to install it from external sources 
(http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/ 
or http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-OSS-Factory-non-oss 
/inst-source-extra/).


On a second box these sources where not available (I got an error when I 
tried to add or use them), so the xfce package was not available to 
install. Today I had more success I could add xfce via yast too!


Wouldn't it make sense to include xfce also in the standard distribution 
for systems that don't have a lot of Gigas? On my Netfinity 3000 with 
iP3/512MB Gnome and KDE are not useable and if I'm localy at the box 
sometimes it's not too bad to have a modern GUI!


How can I configure the automatic startup with startx of xfce, I thought 
it is enough to set the default window manager to xfwm4 (or xfwm) in the 
sysconfig? I can start xfce with startxfce4 but with startx x only fvwm2 
comes up.



Right now I have an AMD Athlon X2 with Pacifica for testing, so I tried 
a litle bit of Xen again, and for the first time using the xen yast module.


Manually I can start my old SLES10b3 paravirt. installation (the config 
file is not located in /etc/xen/...), and if it's started I can manage 
it with the yast module.


I also started my old W2k3 server installation (created with SuSE Linux 
10.1 GM, Kernel 2.6.16.13-4-xen, Xen 3.2-09656-4 on an Intel iPD 920 
with VT), it seems to start, there are no relevant errors in the logs 
but the SDL window never opens and I can't connect to the HVM with VNC.


So I created a new HVM with WXP, with the xen yast module it is quite 
easy to do so :-). I started the installation, the SDL window opens, 
boots from the CD and the first stage of the WXP installation was 
sucessfully finish. But if I try to reboot I don't get the SDL window 
again, so I can't say what is going on right now!



The Online update process also seems to work, right now it is doing the 
4th kernel update, may be some of the xen problems are solved with this.


But the update messed up the grub menu, the original openSuSE 10.2 / 
openSuSE-Xen entries are not working anymore (Err 16: File not found, 
xxx-2.6.18.2-23 was not replaced by xxx-2.6.18.2-33) and if I try to 
start the new Kernel-2.6.18.2-33-xen entry I get:


Booting 'Kernel-2.6.18.2-33-xen'
...
...
Error 13: Invalid or unsupported executable format

After correction of initrd /initrd-2.6.18.2-33-xen to module 
/initrd-2.6.18.2-33-xen the Xen kernel also was starting!


And it seems that Xen SDL is running now too!


BTW: Is there any reason why tripwire is not included in the 
distribution anymore? Is there a successor for it?

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Chau y hasta luego,

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[opensuse-factory] Possible powersave bugs in 10.2 RC1

2006-11-28 Thread Markus
Hi,

I've come across some issues related to powersave on a clean install of 
openSUSE 10.2 RC1.

1. When kpowersave is running and a laptop power button is pressed, powersaved 
complains (and nothing else happens):
Nov 27 07:52:05 vaio powersaved[31177]: Debug (handleHWEventRequest:170) type: 
button/power, dev_name: PWRB, port: 0080, count: 0015
Nov 27 07:52:05 vaio powersaved[31177]: Info (handleHWEventRequest:215) 
button.power event occured
Nov 27 07:52:05 vaio powersaved[31177]: Debug (haveClient:313) We don't own 
the interface org.freedesktop.Policy.Power

If I shutdown kpowersave, button events work as set 
in /etc/sysconfig/powersave/events. The issue is that button events are not 
configurable in kpowersave, therefore there is no way to e.g. set the power 
button to trigger a 'suspend to ram' instead of the default action assigned 
by kpowersave.

2. s2ram
It appears that options are read from /etc/sysconfig/powersave/sleep instead 
of /etc/pm/config. I have set the '--force' option in /etc/pm/config, however 
when triggering suspend to ram from the kpowersave context menu, the system 
attempts to suspend to ram but instead of powering off, comes back 
complaining about '--force' not being set. '--force' is only set 
in /etc/sysconfig/powersave/sleep. Furthermore, the s2ram scripts still point 
the user to /etc/sysconfig/powersave/sleep for configuration.

3. Brightness
Changing brightness works fine using kpowersave. When using the laptop hotkeys 
(Fn+F5/F6) for changing the brightness, a message window shows up (it has the 
same look as when pressing volume hotkeys, I just don't know which program it 
is), indicating that brightness is being changed, however only the LED 
brightness of the power-button on the laptop-chassis changes but not the 
display brightness.

Some more info:
powersave version is 0.15.8-3
pm-utils version is 0.20.0.20061114-2
kpowersave version is 0.7.1
Laptop is a Sony Vaio VGN-T1XP

Thanks for any comments.
Markus
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Possible powersave bugs in 10.2 RC1

2006-11-28 Thread Andreas Hanke
Markus schrieb:
 1. When kpowersave is running and a laptop power button is pressed, 
 powersaved 
 complains (and nothing else happens):
 Nov 27 07:52:05 vaio powersaved[31177]: Debug (handleHWEventRequest:170) 
 type: 
 button/power, dev_name: PWRB, port: 0080, count: 0015
 Nov 27 07:52:05 vaio powersaved[31177]: Info (handleHWEventRequest:215) 
 button.power event occured
 Nov 27 07:52:05 vaio powersaved[31177]: Debug (haveClient:313) We don't own 
 the interface org.freedesktop.Policy.Power

This part of the report is not a bug: Kpowersave does not use powersaved
any more, it actually conflicts with powersaved now.

powersaved detects that Kpowersave is running and becomes inactive in
order to prevent any conflicts. This is working exactly as designed.

The other things might be bugs, use Bugzilla to report them.
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: Istanbul

2006-11-28 Thread Hugo Costelha
On Tuesday 28 November 2006 12:47, Andreas Hanke wrote:
 Hugo Costelha schrieb:
  I found the problem (more or less). I went and installed pretty much all
  the gsstreamer related libs, and now it works. So I guess there is some
  dependency missing.

 Can you, please, uninstall as many gstreamer plugin packages as possible
 again, afterwards re-install them one by one and see which one makes it
 work?

 Otherwise this won't be fixed properly.

Ok, I found which ones are needed:
 * gstreamer010-plugins-base-oil
 * gstreamer010-plugins-good

Hugo
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[opensuse-factory] Enabling ssh daemon during install does not open firewall

2006-11-28 Thread Hugo Costelha
Hi,

I just noticed that although I enabled SSH during the installation, the ssh 
service firewall port was not opened.

Is this a feature or a bug?

As soon as I opened the SSH service port on YAST-Firewall, my ssh connections 
started working fine.

Hugo
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: Istanbul

2006-11-28 Thread Andreas Hanke
Hugo Costelha schrieb:
 Ok, I found which ones are needed:
  * gstreamer010-plugins-base-oil
  * gstreamer010-plugins-good

OK, now please report a bug, in Bugzilla.

It might be too late now, but maybe you're lucky.

(gstreamer packing is a PITA because the plugins are constantly moving
around between the sub-packages. It's nearly impossible to keep the
packages working other than re-checking all of them each time a
gstreamer package has been touched in any way.)

For the records: I have verified this and Hugo's analysis is correct.

Requires: gstreamer010-plugins-base-oil is needed for videoscale
Requires: gstreamer010-plugins-good is needed for gconfaudiosrc
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[opensuse-factory] Test-Kernel

2006-11-28 Thread Robby (M9.)
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As you can see, everything is allright now:
The error-message.
Than i cleaned up /boot, retried, and the result.
(only the libxine dependencies are not fullfilled, (version 10.1)
(why is jre not installed by default?)

Subprocess failed. Error: RPM failed:   installing package
kernel-default-2.6.18.2-33 needs 8MB on the /boot filesystem


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libMagick.so.9()(64bit) is needed by 
libxine1-1.1.2cvs-20061122.pm.0.x86_64
libWand.so.9()(64bit) is needed by 
libxine1-1.1.2cvs-20061122.pm.0.x86_64

2006-11-25 14:09:05 libxine1-1.1.2cvs-20061122.pm.0.x86_64.rpm installed ok
Additional rpm output:
warning: waiting to reestablish exclusive database lock

2006-11-25 14:37:09 java-1_5_0-sun-1.5.0_update8-12.x86_64.rpm installed ok
2006-11-25 14:37:13 java-1_5_0-sun-plugin-1.5.0_update8-12.i586.rpm
installed ok
2006-11-25 16:05:32 kdebindings3-java-3.5.5-26.x86_64.rpm installed ok


kernel-default wordt
opgehaald.../suse/x86_64/kernel-default-2.6.18.2-33.x86_64.rpm wordt
geïnstalleerd: The Standard Kernel for both Uniprocessor and
Multiprocessor Systems   OK
Installatie is gereed.
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Test-Kernel

2006-11-28 Thread Andreas Hanke
Robby (M9.) schrieb:
 Subprocess failed. Error: RPM failed: installing package
 kernel-default-2.6.18.2-33 needs 8MB on the /boot filesystem

This error message is not from YaST, but from rpm and therefore it is
either correct or, if it were wrong, nearly impossible to fix.

Please note: You always need *twice* as much space in /boot as the
kernel needs.

Reason: rpm unpacks the new package first and deletes the old package
afterwards. This means that for a short timeframe, rpm needs double disk
space.

Whenever you set up a Linux system, reserve more space for /boot than
one kernel needs; reserve at least four times as much. Or change the
setup not to have a /boot filesystem.
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Call for testing: New kernel released for 10.2

2006-11-28 Thread Keith Goggin
On Tuesday 28 November 2006 20:40, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
 We just released a new kernel package that contains the latest fixes
 via online update for 10.2.

 Please install it on your systems and report if you have any new
 problems.

Installed cleanly in two stages as described using Yast YOU.

Retrieving libzypp...
Retrieving yast2-qt...
Retrieving zypper...
Retrieving yast2-ncurses...
Retrieving yast2-pkg-bindings...
Retrieving yast2-perl-bindings...
Retrieving opensuse-updater...
Installation finished.

Retrieving 
kernel-default...Installing ./rpm/i586/kernel-default-2.6.18.2-33.i586.rpm: 
The 
Standard Kernel for both Uniprocessor and Multiprocessor Systems   OK
Installation finished.

Potentially a new dimension in testing openSUSE!

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[opensuse-factory] ntp error

2006-11-28 Thread Felix Miata
My clock is more than 2 minutes slow. Services shows ntpd running. I
don't see anything in /var/log/* to indicate any problem with ntpd. What
should I do to fix the clock? Is this a known 10.2 bug?
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Test-Kernel

2006-11-28 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Tuesday 2006-11-28 at 16:05 +0100, Andreas Hanke wrote:

 Whenever you set up a Linux system, reserve more space for /boot than
 one kernel needs; reserve at least four times as much. Or change the
 setup not to have a /boot filesystem.

Ejem!

Back in 2000, 23 Mb (two tracks) was sufficient for three or four kernels 
to spare. It is you who have increased the needed space, not us who 
selected insufficient space ;-)

Now, I would like to give it one track more, but being /boot at the start 
of the disk it means shifting several partitions.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Test-Kernel

2006-11-28 Thread Robby (M9.)
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Andreas Hanke schreef:
 Robby (M9.) schrieb:
 Subprocess failed. Error: RPM failed:installing package
 kernel-default-2.6.18.2-33 needs 8MB on the /boot filesystem

 This error message is not from YaST, but from rpm and therefore it is
 either correct or, if it were wrong, nearly impossible to fix.

It is correct, it can not install, too little room. (two cylinders, was
allways enough, to install two kernels, untill 10.2..)

 Please note: You always need *twice* as much space in /boot as the
 kernel needs.

The partitioner is not capable to make such changes, helas..

 Reason: rpm unpacks the new package first and deletes the old package
 afterwards. This means that for a short timeframe, rpm needs double disk
 space.

Totaly clear..

 Whenever you set up a Linux system, reserve more space for /boot than
 one kernel needs; reserve at least four times as much. Or change the
 setup not to have a /boot filesystem.

The partitionsizes reside from 9.0
If the partitioner will not get upgraded, this will be a timerobbing
business...(setting up new sizes)
I will survive the way it is now, It is only impossible to test two
kernels, pity..

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Test-Kernel

2006-11-28 Thread Robby (M9.)
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Carlos E. R. schreef:

 The Tuesday 2006-11-28 at 16:05 +0100, Andreas Hanke wrote:

 Whenever you set up a Linux system, reserve more space for /boot than
 one kernel needs; reserve at least four times as much. Or change the
 setup not to have a /boot filesystem.

 Ejem!

 Back in 2000, 23 Mb (two tracks) was sufficient for three or four kernels
 to spare. It is you who have increased the needed space, not us who
 selected insufficient space ;-)

This is realy true, read the setup suse-linux handbook..

 Now, I would like to give it one track more, but being /boot at the start
 of the disk it means shifting several partitions.

Yes, that is exactly the problem...


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Re: [opensuse-factory] ntp error

2006-11-28 Thread Mads Martin Joergensen
* Felix Miata [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Nov 28. 2006 16:13]:
 My clock is more than 2 minutes slow. Services shows ntpd running. I
 don't see anything in /var/log/* to indicate any problem with ntpd. What
 should I do to fix the clock? Is this a known 10.2 bug?

What does ntptrace insert-your-ntp-server-here say?

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Re: [opensuse-factory] ntp error

2006-11-28 Thread Keith Goggin
On Wednesday 29 November 2006 02:26, Mads Martin Joergensen wrote:
 * Felix Miata [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Nov 28. 2006 16:13]:
  My clock is more than 2 minutes slow. Services shows ntpd running. I
  don't see anything in /var/log/* to indicate any problem with ntpd. What
  should I do to fix the clock? Is this a known 10.2 bug?

 What does ntptrace insert-your-ntp-server-here say?

I also am interested in this thread.

In my case 192.168.10.1 is a free standing IPCop 1.4.10 box and it is set to
'Obtain time from a Network Time Server'
'Provide time to local network'

However ntptrace returns

workbox:/home/kg # ntptrace 192.168.10.1
192.168.10.1: timed out, nothing received
***Request timed out
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Call for testing: New kernel released for 10.2

2006-11-28 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Keith Goggin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Tuesday 28 November 2006 20:40, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
 We just released a new kernel package that contains the latest fixes
 via online update for 10.2.

 Please install it on your systems and report if you have any new
 problems.

 Installed cleanly in two stages as described using Yast YOU.

And does the kernel work as well?


 Retrieving libzypp...
 Retrieving yast2-qt...
 Retrieving zypper...
 Retrieving yast2-ncurses...
 Retrieving yast2-pkg-bindings...
 Retrieving yast2-perl-bindings...
 Retrieving opensuse-updater...
 Installation finished.

 Retrieving 
 kernel-default...Installing ./rpm/i586/kernel-default-2.6.18.2-33.i586.rpm: 
 The 
 Standard Kernel for both Uniprocessor and Multiprocessor Systems   OK
 Installation finished.

 Potentially a new dimension in testing openSUSE!

A positive or negative one?

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Re: [opensuse-factory] ntp error

2006-11-28 Thread Felix Miata
On 2006/11/28 16:26 (GMT+01200) Mads Martin Joergensen apparently typed:

 Felix Miata [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Nov 28. 2006 16:13]:

 My clock is more than 2 minutes slow. Services shows ntpd running. I
 don't see anything in /var/log/* to indicate any problem with ntpd. What
 should I do to fix the clock? Is this a known 10.2 bug?

 What does ntptrace insert-your-ntp-server-here say?

/etc/ntp.conf has no outside source of synchronized time set. The
original installation was via http. Shouldn't the installer have put
something there?
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Call for testing: New kernel released for 10.2

2006-11-28 Thread Randall R Schulz
Andreas,

On Tuesday 28 November 2006 01:40, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
 We just released a new kernel package ...

 The major changes since the RC1 kernel are:
 * a couple of fixes in the SATA area
 * Disabling of the This module is unsupported by Novell warnings
 * Support for Intel 965 DRM

What does this DRM stand for? Digital Rights Management?


 * Add acpi_user_timer_override for Asus boards
 * Fixes for Xen

 Andreas


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Re: [opensuse-factory] ntp error

2006-11-28 Thread Mads Martin Joergensen
* Keith Goggin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Nov 28. 2006 16:42]:
   My clock is more than 2 minutes slow. Services shows ntpd running. I
   don't see anything in /var/log/* to indicate any problem with ntpd. What
   should I do to fix the clock? Is this a known 10.2 bug?
 
  What does ntptrace insert-your-ntp-server-here say?
 
 I also am interested in this thread.
 
 In my case 192.168.10.1 is a free standing IPCop 1.4.10 box and it is set to
 'Obtain time from a Network Time Server'
 'Provide time to local network'
 
 However ntptrace returns
 
 workbox:/home/kg # ntptrace 192.168.10.1
 192.168.10.1: timed out, nothing received
 ***Request timed out

Are you sure it's working on 192.168.10.1, and the firewall permits
access. The 192.168.10.1, have it been configured to allow others to
sync from it?

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Call for testing: New kernel released for 10.2

2006-11-28 Thread Felix Miata
On 2006/11/28 10:40 (GMT+0100) Andreas Jaeger apparently typed:

 We just released a new kernel package that contains the latest fixes
 via online update for 10.2.

 Please install it on your systems and report if you have any new
 problems.

 The major changes since the RC1 kernel are:
 * a couple of fixes in the SATA area
 * Disabling of the This module is unsupported by Novell warnings
 * Support for Intel 965 DRM
 * Add acpi_user_timer_override for Asus boards
 * Fixes for Xen

I grabbed it from gwdg.de using mc, and installed rpm -ivh. PIII on
i815. No new problems noted so far. There was a grub related error
message from mkinitrd you can see in GRUB error - can anyone help
please? Tue, 28 Nov 2006 08:02:37 -0500 post.
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Call for testing: New kernel released for 10.2

2006-11-28 Thread Keith Goggin
On Wednesday 29 November 2006 02:43, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
 Keith Goggin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  On Tuesday 28 November 2006 20:40, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
  We just released a new kernel package that contains the latest fixes
  via online update for 10.2.
 
  Please install it on your systems and report if you have any new
  problems.
 
  Installed cleanly in two stages as described using Yast YOU.

 And does the kernel work as well?

Yes fine so far. But I haven't done much retesting, time for bed on this side 
of the pond.

  Potentially a new dimension in testing openSUSE!

 A positive or negative one?

Positive but with some slight reservations about discipline in testing :-)
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Call for testing: New kernel released for 10.2

2006-11-28 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Randall R Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Andreas,

 On Tuesday 28 November 2006 01:40, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
 We just released a new kernel package ...

 The major changes since the RC1 kernel are:
 * a couple of fixes in the SATA area
 * Disabling of the This module is unsupported by Novell warnings
 * Support for Intel 965 DRM

 What does this DRM stand for? Digital Rights Management?

Direct-Rendering Method (?) - needed for 3D support.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] GRUB error - can anyone help please?

2006-11-28 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Felix Miata [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On 2006/11/28 07:30 (GMT+-0500) Felix Miata apparently typed:

 I did a FTP install from the beta2 mirror state IIRC. Shortly after I
 did some partition rearranging, moving the factory from hda21 to hda10.
 After editing the appropriate files and running grub-install, it would
 not boot when hda10 selected from IBM Boot Manager or when hda10
 chainloaded from grub on another partition. Loading the kernel and
 initrd from grub elsewhere worked fine.

 After updating to the rc1 mirror state I reran grub-install once again,
 and now it boots from BM, and presumably also from chainload.

 The rc1 graphical grub boot menu is way cool!

 I just stumbled onto a clue why my problem may have occurred, but don't
 know what to make of or do about it.

 I just grabbed the newest default kernel rpm via ftp and ran rpm -ivh on
 it. After mkinitrd's bootsplash output came these two lines:

 ERROR: Core::SplidDevPath: Cannot get device for (hd0,20)/boot/grub/stage1
 ERROR: Core::SplidDevPath: Cannot get device for (hd0,20)/boot/grub/stage2

 The error is understandable, as when initially installed factory was on
 hda21. Now hda21 no longer exists. I moved factory to hda10 over a week ago.

 What triggered the errors? What is remembering the original installation
 target?

 Reboot with the new 2.6.18.2-31-default kernel seemed totally normal.

Please file a bugreport for this!

Andreas
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Call for testing: New kernel released for 10.2

2006-11-28 Thread Andras Mantia
Ok, meantime the patch appeared on the mirror, 4th kernel update is 
selected.
Problem: Estimated download size: 0 B. Not nice. ;-)

The patch is downloading now (it takes some time here).

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Re: [opensuse-factory] ntp error

2006-11-28 Thread Mads Martin Joergensen
* Keith Goggin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Nov 28. 2006 17:03]:
 Yes I think so because when I test it from Yast Network Services NTP 
 Configuration it responds 'Server is reachable and responds properly' also 
 IPCop is set to 'Provide time to local network'.

You should nmap it to make sure.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] ntp error

2006-11-28 Thread Keith Goggin
On Wednesday 29 November 2006 03:05, Mads Martin Joergensen wrote:
 * Keith Goggin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Nov 28. 2006 17:03]:
  Yes I think so because when I test it from Yast Network Services NTP
  Configuration it responds 'Server is reachable and responds properly'
  also IPCop is set to 'Provide time to local network'.

 You should nmap it to make sure.

Sorry I don't understand, apropos nmap suggests mmap and man mmap is valid if 
a bit complicated. But the command mmap (run as root) wasn't recognised and 
it's 3:15 in the morning here :-)
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Re: [opensuse-factory] GRUB error - can anyone help please?

2006-11-28 Thread Felix Miata
On 2006/11/28 16:56 (GMT+0100) Andreas Jaeger apparently typed:

 Felix Miata [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On 2006/11/28 07:30 (GMT+-0500) Felix Miata apparently typed:

 I did a FTP install from the beta2 mirror state IIRC. Shortly after I
 did some partition rearranging, moving the factory from hda21 to hda10.
 After editing the appropriate files and running grub-install, it would
 not boot when hda10 selected from IBM Boot Manager or when hda10
 chainloaded from grub on another partition. Loading the kernel and
 initrd from grub elsewhere worked fine.

 After updating to the rc1 mirror state I reran grub-install once again,
 and now it boots from BM, and presumably also from chainload.

 The rc1 graphical grub boot menu is way cool!

 I just stumbled onto a clue why my problem may have occurred, but don't
 know what to make of or do about it.

 I just grabbed the newest default kernel rpm via ftp and ran rpm -ivh on
 it. After mkinitrd's bootsplash output came these two lines:

 ERROR: Core::SplidDevPath: Cannot get device for (hd0,20)/boot/grub/stage1
 ERROR: Core::SplidDevPath: Cannot get device for (hd0,20)/boot/grub/stage2

 The error is understandable, as when initially installed factory was on
 hda21. Now hda21 no longer exists. I moved factory to hda10 over a week ago.

 What triggered the errors? What is remembering the original installation
 target?

 Reboot with the new 2.6.18.2-31-default kernel seemed totally normal.

 Please file a bugreport for this!

What product and component? IOW, whose fault is it likely to be?
/etc/grub.conf was left untouched from its original installation
creation state (the old partition originally installed to) after I used
YaST 2 System Update to upgrade to RC1.
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Re: [opensuse-factory] GRUB error - can anyone help please?

2006-11-28 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Felix Miata [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On 2006/11/28 16:56 (GMT+0100) Andreas Jaeger apparently typed:

 Felix Miata [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On 2006/11/28 07:30 (GMT+-0500) Felix Miata apparently typed:

 I did a FTP install from the beta2 mirror state IIRC. Shortly after I
 did some partition rearranging, moving the factory from hda21 to hda10.
 After editing the appropriate files and running grub-install, it would
 not boot when hda10 selected from IBM Boot Manager or when hda10
 chainloaded from grub on another partition. Loading the kernel and
 initrd from grub elsewhere worked fine.

 After updating to the rc1 mirror state I reran grub-install once again,
 and now it boots from BM, and presumably also from chainload.

 The rc1 graphical grub boot menu is way cool!

 I just stumbled onto a clue why my problem may have occurred, but don't
 know what to make of or do about it.

 I just grabbed the newest default kernel rpm via ftp and ran rpm -ivh on
 it. After mkinitrd's bootsplash output came these two lines:

 ERROR: Core::SplidDevPath: Cannot get device for (hd0,20)/boot/grub/stage1
 ERROR: Core::SplidDevPath: Cannot get device for (hd0,20)/boot/grub/stage2

 The error is understandable, as when initially installed factory was on
 hda21. Now hda21 no longer exists. I moved factory to hda10 over a week ago.

 What triggered the errors? What is remembering the original installation
 target?

 Reboot with the new 2.6.18.2-31-default kernel seemed totally normal.

 Please file a bugreport for this!

 What product and component? IOW, whose fault is it likely to be?

So, is this a 10.2 install?  In that case against 10.2, component kernel,

 /etc/grub.conf was left untouched from its original installation
 creation state (the old partition originally installed to) after I used
 YaST 2 System Update to upgrade to RC1.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] the MS truetype fonts script has got problems

2006-11-28 Thread Stefan Dirsch
On Tue, Nov 28, 2006 at 01:29:08PM +0100, Frank-Michael Fischer wrote:
 Andreas Hanke schrieb:
  Frank-Michael Fischer schrieb:

  And it's unlikely that
  cabextract stops working for a while and comes back again etc.
  
 
  Hm, with the information that is currently available it almost looks
  like exactly that.
 
  This is the script:
 
  http://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/update/10.2/scripts/fetchmsttfonts.sh
 
  Download it, run it on its own (without YaST around it) and try to find
  out why it fails. I tend to blame the sourceforge servers.

 
 Right, seems ovh.dl.sourceforge.net cab files are just plain rotten and
 puzzle is not in this font business at all.

Right. This changes from time to time. I've removed ovh and the other
slow machines (puzzle,citkit,cogent,voxel) from the server list
therefore. BTW, I don't think the script is so bad. It simply checks
for the quickest server, and uses this one as default download server.
If a package download fails it uses the next one in the server list
and so on ...

You can see this pretty good in the output of the script.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Call for testing: New kernel released for 10.2

2006-11-28 Thread Christoph Thiel
On Tue, Nov 28, 2006 at 04:55:55PM +0100, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
 Randall R Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Andreas,
 
  On Tuesday 28 November 2006 01:40, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
  We just released a new kernel package ...
 
  The major changes since the RC1 kernel are:
  * a couple of fixes in the SATA area
  * Disabling of the This module is unsupported by Novell warnings
  * Support for Intel 965 DRM
 
  What does this DRM stand for? Digital Rights Management?
 
 Direct-Rendering Method (?) - needed for 3D support.

  Direct Rendering Manager - A Linux kernel module that gives direct
  hardware access to DRI clients. [1]


Best,
Christoph

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Re: [opensuse-factory] ntp error

2006-11-28 Thread Mads Martin Joergensen
* Keith Goggin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Nov 28. 2006 17:18]:
   Yes I think so because when I test it from Yast Network Services NTP
   Configuration it responds 'Server is reachable and responds properly'
   also IPCop is set to 'Provide time to local network'.
 
  You should nmap it to make sure.
 
 Sorry I don't understand, apropos nmap suggests mmap and man mmap is valid if 
 a bit complicated. But the command mmap (run as root) wasn't recognised and 
 it's 3:15 in the morning here :-)

nmap is a portscanner. Install the package and scan the ntp server to
see if the ntp port is available.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Test-Kernel - boot partition

2006-11-28 Thread Thorolf Godawa

Hi,

 Whenever you set up a Linux system, reserve more space for /boot than
 one kernel needs; reserve at least four times as much. Or change the
 setup not to have a /boot filesystem.
 Fedora's installer chastizes you if you try to set /boot to a
 partition of much less than 80M. I get that error any time I do a
since many years I always set my extra boot partition (primary) to 23MB, 
but since I'm doing more with Xen and harddrives larger 100GB I decided 
to increase the boot partition to 1GB.


The question is, is it still usefull to create a seperate boot partition 
or could it also be together with / (root)?


On most installations I have:
/boot
/
/usr
/tmp
/var
/home
/extra-data...

One disadvantage can be the you can't mount it readonly, but what else?
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Test-Kernel - boot partition

2006-11-28 Thread M9.
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Thorolf Godawa schreef:
 Hi,

 Whenever you set up a Linux system, reserve more space for /boot than
 one kernel needs; reserve at least four times as much. Or change the
 setup not to have a /boot filesystem.
 Fedora's installer chastizes you if you try to set /boot to a
 partition of much less than 80M. I get that error any time I do a
 since many years I always set my extra boot partition (primary) to 23MB,
 but since I'm doing more with Xen and harddrives larger 100GB I decided
 to increase the boot partition to 1GB.

 The question is, is it still usefull to create a seperate boot partition
 or could it also be together with / (root)?

 On most installations I have:
 /boot
 /
 /usr
 /tmp
 /var
 /home
 /extra-data...

 One disadvantage can be the you can't mount it readonly, but what else?

1gig for /boot, seems a little overdone to me.How many kernels would you
store there to test? Or you use the same /boot partition for all your
distro's...

The way it looks, 4 cylinders are going to be at least nessesary in the
coming time.. as the kernels sizes increase by M's nowadays..

To have partitions has the advantage that the data does not have to
scatter over the disc, so searchtime will be longer.

Also the partitions are more easy to clean when seperate.

But i think it is rather personal...

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Call for testing: New kernel released for 10.2

2006-11-28 Thread Richard Bos
Op dinsdag 28 november 2006 10:40, schreef Andreas Jaeger:
 We just released a new kernel package that contains the latest fixes
 via online update for 10.2.

 Please install it on your systems and report if you have any new
 problems.

 The major changes since the RC1 kernel are:
 * a couple of fixes in the SATA area
 * Disabling of the This module is unsupported by Novell warnings
 * Support for Intel 965 DRM
 * Add acpi_user_timer_override for Asus boards
 * Fixes for Xen

 Andreas

What's the url to use to test this update.  Is it opensuse current, something 
else?

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Call for testing: New kernel released for 10.2

2006-11-28 Thread Andreas Hanke
Richard Bos schrieb:
 What's the url to use to test this update.  Is it opensuse current, something 
 else?

Any mirror of ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/update/10.2
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[opensuse-factory] Random hangup

2006-11-28 Thread Richard Bos
While using konqueror on suse10.2rc1 and attempting to login to a website, the 
system just hung!  I have the same phenomenon on suse10.1 and hoped that this 
would not happen anymore on suse10.2.  It is actually on 2 different systems.  
It's very annoying that these hangups happen.  I have no debug data, so it is 
hard to so what is causing this.  Perhaps others encounter the sam behaviour?

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[opensuse-factory] Call for testers: ntfsprogs

2006-11-28 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Hi,

we just have prepared a ntfsprogs package which supports resizing of
NTFS partitions for Vista.  This is rather new and untested and we therefore
need some testers to test:
* resizing of normal ntfs partitions
* resizing of Vista ntfs partitions

For those of you that have a backup handy, please do some testings and report
back whether everything works and windows can still use the partition 
afterwards.

If it fails, please open a blocker bug and assign to me.  IF you tested, please 
reply
here so that I know whether it was tested at all.

I'm considering adding this for 10.2 - but need testers.  We'll do some testing
internally tomorrow as well but the more testers, the better...

The rpms are available from:
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/aj/ntfsprogs

Thanks for your tests - and thanks to Carl-Daniel for preparing the package and 
to
the ntfs team for developing this,


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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: congratulations...

2006-11-28 Thread jdd

Juan Erbes a écrit :

2006/11/26, jdd [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

jdd a écrit :
 I want to congratulate the openSUSE 10.2 developpers, because I'm on 
the

 way of installing the RC1 on a very low end machine

 http://fr.opensuse.org/Utilisateur:Jdd/alb/La_Mouette

finally the install goes well and gnome run quite well.

I mention it because it's very interesting to have an
uptodate OS running on a 7 years old computer.



How high is the capacity of the installed ram in La_Mouette

Thanks



140Mb
jdd

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Random hangup

2006-11-28 Thread Richard Bos
Op dinsdag 28 november 2006 21:36, schreef Richard Bos:
 While using konqueror on suse10.2rc1 and attempting to login to a website,
 the system just hung!  I have the same phenomenon on suse10.1 and hoped
 that this would not happen anymore on suse10.2.  It is actually on 2
 different systems. It's very annoying that these hangups happen.  I have no
 debug data, so it is hard to so what is causing this.  Perhaps others
 encounter the sam behaviour?

Alright, it happened again :(  Now while opening a pdf document from the 
web...  Konqueror shows the dialog with the question what program to use 
(or similar), and that's it.  System hangs..

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Random hangup

2006-11-28 Thread Richard Bos
Op dinsdag 28 november 2006 22:33, schreef Andras Mantia:
 If one of the above solves the hangs, then it is possible to find what
 is the problem, but with the information you gave, it is impossible.

I know that the information is not sufficient, but perhaps others see this too 
and than we might have something in common.  The system must be reboot 
(reset) to get it back to live.

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[opensuse-factory] Cannot mount volumes on desktop (HAL permission problem)

2006-11-28 Thread Émeric Maschino

Hi,

I have several volumes displayed on my desktop. But when I'm trying to
access one, I'm getting a dialog box saying:

Cannot mount volume.
Error org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.PermissionDeniedByPolicy.

Details say:

hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 1000

This is on an Itanium workstation (IA-64 architecture) running up-to-date
openSUSE Factory. Is this a (known) bug or are they corrective actions I can
try?
I don't know if it's related but I can see an error message at boot time
about udevd not being able to lookup the disk group.

Cheers,

   Émeric


Re: [opensuse-factory] Cannot mount volumes on desktop (HAL permission problem)

2006-11-28 Thread Hugo Costelha
On Tuesday 28 November 2006 23:16, Émeric Maschino wrote:
 Hi,

 I have several volumes displayed on my desktop. But when I'm trying to
 access one, I'm getting a dialog box saying:

 Cannot mount volume.
 Error org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.PermissionDeniedByPolicy.

 Details say:

 hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 1000

 This is on an Itanium workstation (IA-64 architecture) running up-to-date
 openSUSE Factory. Is this a (known) bug or are they corrective actions I
 can try?
 I don't know if it's related but I can see an error message at boot time
 about udevd not being able to lookup the disk group.


Just wondering, might it have to be with 
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=223744 ?

If not, sorry for the reply.

Hugo
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Call for testers: ntfsprogs

2006-11-28 Thread Bernhard Walle
Hello,

* Andreas Jaeger [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-11-28 21:53]:
 
 we just have prepared a ntfsprogs package which supports resizing of
 NTFS partitions for Vista.  This is rather new and untested and we therefore
 need some testers to test:
 * resizing of normal ntfs partitions

Works here. Windows XP SP2 Prof.

 * resizing of Vista ntfs partitions

Sorry, I have no Vista. :)


Regards,
  Bernhard


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[opensuse-factory] Zope oddities

2006-11-28 Thread suse . to . anomalyst
a) Zope3 does not appear in the packages for x86_64
   Hopefully this is just a package tweak

b) The last line of the Zope2 description

   If you want to use MySQL with Zope install
zope-mysql.

The zope-mysql hyperlink brings up an empty 'Package
Description window.

An explicit search for zope-mysql returns No Result.


 

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Re: [opensuse-factory] GRUB error - can anyone help please?

2006-11-28 Thread Felix Miata
On 2006/11/28 17:29 (GMT+0100) Andreas Jaeger apparently typed:

 Felix Miata [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On 2006/11/28 16:56 (GMT+0100) Andreas Jaeger apparently typed:

 Felix Miata [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On 2006/11/28 07:30 (GMT+-0500) Felix Miata apparently typed:

 I did a FTP install from the beta2 mirror state IIRC. Shortly after I
 did some partition rearranging, moving the factory from hda21 to hda10.
 After editing the appropriate files and running grub-install, it would
 not boot when hda10 selected from IBM Boot Manager or when hda10
 chainloaded from grub on another partition. Loading the kernel and
 initrd from grub elsewhere worked fine.

 After updating to the rc1 mirror state I reran grub-install once again,
 and now it boots from BM, and presumably also from chainload.

 The rc1 graphical grub boot menu is way cool!

 I just stumbled onto a clue why my problem may have occurred, but don't
 know what to make of or do about it.

 I just grabbed the newest default kernel rpm via ftp and ran rpm -ivh on
 it. After mkinitrd's bootsplash output came these two lines:

 ERROR: Core::SplidDevPath: Cannot get device for (hd0,20)/boot/grub/stage1
 ERROR: Core::SplidDevPath: Cannot get device for (hd0,20)/boot/grub/stage2

 The error is understandable, as when initially installed factory was on
 hda21. Now hda21 no longer exists. I moved factory to hda10 over a week 
 ago.

 What triggered the errors? What is remembering the original installation
 target?

 Reboot with the new 2.6.18.2-31-default kernel seemed totally normal.

 Please file a bugreport for this!

 What product and component? IOW, whose fault is it likely to be?

 So, is this a 10.2 install?  In that case against 10.2, component kernel,

Yes, RC1. But, I feel like I've described more than one problem
(1-failure to boot after moving partition and reinstalling grub,
2-/etc/grub.conf not getting rewritten as required on YaST2 system
upgrade after partition relocation, 3-error messages after mkinitrd
portion of new kernel installation), and don't know which you'd like filed.

 /etc/grub.conf was left untouched from its original installation
 creation state (the old partition originally installed to) after I used
 YaST 2 System Update to upgrade to RC1.
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Test-Kernel - boot partition

2006-11-28 Thread Felix Miata
On 2006/11/28 17:38 (GMT+0100) Thorolf Godawa apparently typed:

 The question is, is it still usefull to create a seperate boot partition 
 or could it also be together with / (root)?

 One disadvantage can be the you can't mount it readonly, but what else?

Once you get a good working grub on a /boot partition, you can use it to
start any number of installs on any number of partitions. On all but one
install you leave /boot on the root partition, and on that installation
you're not messing with the one that you know works. If a new install
fails to properly complete or install its own grub, you can still start
without need for rescue media. You can also copy the installation kernel
and initrd for any given distro to the /boot partition, and never need
to burn any CD to start either an install, or a rescue. If adequately
sized, it can also be a handy location for backup copies of your most
used config files to refer to or replace those resulting from a new
install. It can also be useful if you shuffle hardware around frequently
and might still have systems that recognize not more than 1024 cylinders
for booting.
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Re: [opensuse-factory] GRUB error - can anyone help please?

2006-11-28 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Felix Miata [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Yes, RC1. But, I feel like I've described more than one problem

Ah, now I see...

 (1-failure to boot after moving partition and reinstalling grub,
 2-/etc/grub.conf not getting rewritten as required on YaST2 system
 upgrade after partition relocation, 3-error messages after mkinitrd
 portion of new kernel installation), and don't know which you'd like filed.

I asked for #3,

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Test-Kernel - boot partition

2006-11-28 Thread jdd

Felix Miata a écrit :

On 2006/11/28 17:38 (GMT+0100) Thorolf Godawa apparently typed:

The question is, is it still usefull to create a seperate boot partition 
or could it also be together with / (root)?



One disadvantage can be the you can't mount it readonly, but what else?


Once you get a good working grub on a /boot partition, you can use it to
start any number of installs on any number of partitions. On all but one
install you leave /boot on the root partition, and on that installation
you're not messing with the one that you know works. If a new install
fails to properly complete or install its own grub, you can still start
without need for rescue media. You can also copy the installation kernel
and initrd for any given distro to the /boot partition, and never need
to burn any CD to start either an install, or a rescue. If adequately
sized, it can also be a handy location for backup copies of your most
used config files to refer to or replace those resulting from a new
install. It can also be useful if you shuffle hardware around frequently
and might still have systems that recognize not more than 1024 cylinders
for booting.


yes

and on this respect, the default way of openSUSE to replace 
the MBR at install _without notice_ is BAD


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