Re: [opensuse-factory] Bad experience with 10.3

2007-10-06 Thread Andras Mantia
On Saturday 06 October 2007, Sid Boyce wrote:
 Interesting to see if there is a happy outcome from the bug report.

The result is that I fixed the system with the rescue option (chroot, 
manual rpm install, fix the software repository sources and other 
things). Now it seems to be stable, altough suspend2disk ceased to work 
(again) due to some changes in xorg.conf, but luckily after restroing 
my old xorg.conf it works. Probably there are also some other things 
that are not standard anymore on my system, but I can live with them 
now. ;) As soon as I run in bugs, I will report them.

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[opensuse-factory] Bad experience with 10.3

2007-10-05 Thread Andras Mantia
Hi,

 I finally sit down to upgrade my 10.2 system to 10.3. I didn't have 
time to go and try the alpha/beta versions, but jumped directly to the 
GM.
 Well, the process took little bit more than 2 hours, but I become very 
upset after the first hour as my system became completely useless. I 
spent almost an hour to manually bring to a state where I can boot 
it. :(
 To make the story short here: upgrade of two packages failed (libzypp 
and pango) in the post-install phase, complaining about missing 
libraries. I didn't take a look to pango, but it turned out that 
libzypp fails because zypp-migrate-sources cannot find libssl.so.0.9.8 
and libcrypto.so.0.9.8. But when I (manually) tried to install 
libopenssl0_9_8-0.9.8e-45, it said it is already installed. So I forced 
the installation of libopenssl0_9_8 and libzypp . Now at least yast can 
be started.
 Of course I got this errors during the upgrade process, but I couldn't 
do anything but either ignore the errors, hoping the install will still 
finish and can fix the problems after the reboot, or abort the install 
meaning that my system is for sure unusable. 
 But this was not enough, installing the new kernel failed as well, 
because I got the error that there was an error creating the initrd 
(but the error dialog was EMPTY), and at this moment the installation 
aborted.
 I tried to reboot and select the menu item to repair a broken 
installation, but that gave me an error from the start that the 
installation failed. Tried this after I fixed the libzypp issue, got 
the same error. After I got this message I tried to run again the 
installation from the yast console mode (without rebooting), but I got 
the same error. I didn't try to reboot and start the installation over, 
I decided to fix the system somehow with the rescue option. And here I 
am, I fixed, but on reboot yast didn't came up as it usually does after 
a new install/upgrade, so I'm wonder how finished is my installation 
now...

 All this is described as bug #331254  with the yast logs.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Torrents for all CD/DVD missing from announcement.

2007-10-04 Thread Andras Mantia
On Thursday 04 October 2007, Boyd Lynn Gerber wrote:
 Hello,

 I notice that there are no torrents at all listed in the email
 announcing the release.  I thought this would be the main focuse for
 download.  I am only getting 1.5 K via ftp.  Having the torrents made
 available in the announcement like in the past should really be done.

http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.3/iso/torrent/

But I had nothing bud problem with the x86_64 DVD torrent. I simply 
couldn't get a good version. It downloads, I check the integrity, it 
fails for some chunks. Start the torrent again, downloads the chunks, 
still fails.
Lucky I had a RC1 DVD image and now I'm using the delta to create the 
GM.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Torrents for all CD/DVD missing from announcement.

2007-10-04 Thread Andras Mantia
On Thursday 04 October 2007, Carlos E. R. wrote:
 Don't use the ktorrent program then, use the ncurses client. Much
 safer, it can correct bad downloads.

Actually I never had a bad download with KTorrent until now. :) 
But as I said I have the final DVD as I had the RC1 DVD  and downloaded 
the delat via ftp.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] applydeltaiso RC1 delta to GM 10.3 - indata read 8192 bytes failed

2007-10-02 Thread Andras Mantia
On Monday 01 October 2007, Carlos E. R. wrote:
 I do it using the ncurses torrent client.

Thansk for the tip! I was fighting with KTorrent without success, but 
could fix my RC1 DVD in less than 10 minutes with 
btdownloadheadless.py. :)

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Re: [opensuse-factory] applydeltaiso RC1 delta to GM 10.3 - indata read 8192 bytes failed

2007-10-01 Thread Andras Mantia
On Sunday 30 September 2007, Sebastian Furdal wrote:
 reading 363151280 bytes from old iso...done
 indata read 8192 bytes failed

Similar for me for the x86_64 DVD:

reading 363151280 bytes from old iso...done
indata read 8192 bytes failed

I checked the md5sum of my downloaded RC1 ISO:
md5sum openSUSE-10.3-RC1-DVD-x86_64.iso
0d0b44c3bd86630d59de9aceb3dbadc6  openSUSE-10.3-RC1-DVD-x86_64.iso

This is NOT the same as the one in MD5SUMS.of.DVDs:

b614710dc92366e7b768fe8e0cd5e7ee  openSUSE-10.3-RC1-DVD-x86_64.iso

Now the question is: how can I correct my RC1 DVD iso? I could use 
rsync, but I cannot find anywhere the ISO, just by a torrent. :( 
That's pretty bad, as my connection is not the good, and would take 
quite some time to download the full DVD...

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Re: [opensuse-factory] applydeltaiso RC1 delta to GM 10.3 - indata read 8192 bytes failed

2007-10-01 Thread Andras Mantia
On Monday 01 October 2007, Carlos E. R. wrote:
 The Monday 2007-10-01 at 11:26 +0300, Andras Mantia wrote:
  Now the question is: how can I correct my RC1 DVD iso? I could use
  rsync, but I cannot find anywhere the ISO, just by a torrent. :(

 Torrent can correct your bad iso.

And how should I do that if I have the iso, but it was downloaded via 
torrent on another computer (where the transaction was removed from the 
torrent client)?

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[opensuse-factory] Delta beta2-beta3 for x86_64 DVD

2007-09-06 Thread Andras Mantia
Hi,

 I cannot find (on the mirrors) the delta for the 64bit dvd. Can it be 
created and uploaded?

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[opensuse-factory] Re: Delta beta2-beta3 for x86_64 DVD

2007-09-06 Thread Andras Mantia
On Thursday 06 September 2007 19:47, Andras Mantia wrote:
 Hi,

  I cannot find (on the mirrors) the delta for the 64bit dvd. Can it
 be created and uploaded?

...and of course I found it on a mirror (strange it was missinf from 
others I've checked).

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Re: [fish][opensuse-factory] Boot speed and services

2007-03-09 Thread Andras Mantia
 Per Jessen wrote:

 I find it useful to use fish://

 I don't even know about this :-( do you have a link? googling for
 fish wont give me what I want :-)

It's a KDE KIOSLAVE. In almost all KDE applications you can access remote
(file) systems which have sshd installed just by using the fish://
protocol. Very handy. ;-)

Andras

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Boot speed and services

2007-03-09 Thread Andras Mantia
On Thursday 08 March 2007, Stephan Kulow wrote:
 Your argument is pretty weak as we default to firewall enabled, so
 it's pretty hard to get to the ssh port ;)

Ok, I didn't remeber what is the default behavior of the firewall. But 
in that case (ssh port is closed) it is really not needed to run it at 
startup for every system.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Boot speed and services

2007-03-08 Thread Andras Mantia
On Thursday 08 March 2007, Martin Schlander wrote:
 I believe postfix, sshd and AppArmor are not necessary on most
 installations, I certainly always disable them.

I don't know why postfix is needed on most machines, but sshd is useful 
to help remotely people that are beginners. But maybe its enough if its 
installed by default as it is relatively easy to turn it on in YaST.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] meeting minutes of last dist meeting

2007-02-19 Thread Andras Mantia
On Monday 19 February 2007, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
 * Use the lang support in RPM, ie:
   rpm -i --define _install_langs fr:es package
   This would break delta RPMs.

I don't think breaking delat rpms is a good idea...

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Re: [opensuse-factory] unable to open man page in Suse 10.2

2007-01-06 Thread Andras Mantia
On Saturday 06 January 2007 03:48, Digvijoy Chatterjee wrote:
 Hi,
 I am not able to read man pages on my x86_64 Suse 10.2 box ??

 This is what i get :

 digz-AMD:/lib64 # man ls
 groff: /lib64/libgcc_s.so.1: version `GCC_4.2.0' not found (required
 by /usr/lib64/libstdc++.so.6)

 Any Idea whats going on ??

It works here. Something got broken on your system. Did you recompile 
some parts from source or installed packages not compiled with the 
standard g++ included in 10.2?

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Re: [opensuse-factory] jboss4 package is missing in the opensuse10.2 repository

2006-12-18 Thread Andras Mantia
On Sunday 17 December 2006 16:01, Luc Willems wrote:
 the jboss4 rpm is missing from the online repository and factory.
 Haven't checked any DVD because i use the online repository.

 is this rpm included in the DVD release our should i create a
 bugzilla for this

Seems to be a bug. No jboss4 packages are on the DVD, and the one you 
mention here is missing from the FTP servers as well...

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Re: [opensuse-factory] opensuse-updater - fetching online metadata

2006-12-14 Thread Andras Mantia
On Thursday 14 December 2006 22:36, Peter Buschbacher wrote:
 Is it necessary to download all the metadata-stuff for several
 Broadband-minutes, while the Applet already has the information, that
 there is ONE update available?

I also noted that since I added the FTP tree as a source sometimes (but 
not always) checking for online update takes a very long time. I didn't 
report as a bug, because I'm not sure that this was the cause, but I 
suspect it still fetches the metadata, even if refresh is disabled 
(similar to #218705 for yast). 

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Restart factory

2006-12-06 Thread Andras Mantia
On Wednesday 06 December 2006 14:30, Christoph Thiel wrote:
 On Wed, Dec 06, 2006 at 01:25:34PM +0100, Peter Czanik wrote:

 [...]

  This brings to another wish: LTSP integration, like in 'Edubuntu'.
  A diskless thin client solution using distribution binaries and
  LTSP support scripts.

 Once we have the details on what is needed for the LTSP integration,
 we will be able to size this project and estimate, if we can get this
 into 10.3.

I will probably update a 10.0 installation with LTSP to 10.2 and the 
latest version of LTSP sometime in January. The biggest issues I 
remember of were:
- create the correct boot images for the stations (a GUI to chose, 
download and create the floppy would be very nice)
- configure the different version of X (the one from LTSP and the one 
from SUSE) to work along nicely, namely setxkbmap (and thus the kxkb 
application from KDE) did not work at all.

LTSP also has a console config tool, for which a YaST module would be 
nice. This configures the TFTP server, DHCP, and things like that on 
the server machine.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] wine and picasa

2006-12-03 Thread Andras Mantia
On Sunday 03 December 2006 22:39, Sid Boyce wrote:
 OK, my 64-bit boxes are still on 10.1, works fine on x86.

RC1 on x86_64: picasa (from RPM) doesn't start. No error is displayed to 
the console.
IIRC it worked on 10.1.

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[opensuse-factory] Bug 223794

2006-12-01 Thread Andras Mantia
Hi,

 I'm stressing this here as time is approaching quickly for GM, and I 
would like to have a 10.2 where my application[1] doesn't crash. ;-)

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=223794

It has a patch attached - suggested by the imagemagick developers - , 
but wasn't even commented by a suse guy yet. :-(

Please review and if possible, include it.

Andras

[1] http://kallery.kdewebdev.org, but basically every Qt3 application 
using ImageMagick will crash if tries to draw something to the images.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] File list for Yast YOU

2006-12-01 Thread Andras Mantia
On Friday 01 December 2006 09:46, Pascal Bleser wrote:
 Let's have a look at some numbers ;)

[...]

From your numbers it is pretty clear that there are some straightforward 
optimization ways:
- use bzip2 for repodata: downloading 2 MB of extra data is still slower 
than uncompressing a file with bzip2 compared to gzip
- use compression for yast repositories
- suggest using yast repositories for SUSE packages

I know this is not that easy to do for repo-md, if other distributions 
should agree with it as well, but for yast repositories it is something 
that should be considered right from the start for 10.3.

About XML parsing performance, here are some numbers (AMD64, 3200+):
- parsing a 17MB (!) HTML file in Quanta Plus is 19seconds. Own parser, 
but I'm sure it is more complex and does much more things than an XML 
parser needed for YaST.
- reading 2MB of XML file from several hunderds of files using Qt's DOM 
functions takes 328ms. So let's say 16MB would take 2 seconds. I did 
not messure this in YaST, but if it's slower, there is a big problem as 
Qt's DOM implementation is not considered to be fast. ;-)

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Bug 223794

2006-12-01 Thread Andras Mantia
On Friday 01 December 2006 11:47, Marcus Meissner wrote:
 On Fri, Dec 01, 2006 at 11:28:47AM +0200, Andras Mantia wrote:
  Hi,
 
   I'm stressing this here as time is approaching quickly for GM, and
  I would like to have a 10.2 where my application[1] doesn't crash.
  ;-)
 
  https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=223794
 
  It has a patch attached - suggested by the imagemagick developers -
  , but wasn't even commented by a suse guy yet. :-(
 
  Please review and if possible, include it.

 You should perhaps raise Severity to at least Critical if you think
 so.

It is not critical in the sense, that the distribution itself will 
probably work, but well...its critical for me. I will raise the 
severity. :-)

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Bug 223794

2006-12-01 Thread Andras Mantia
On Friday 01 December 2006 11:57, Stephan Kulow wrote:
 Am Freitag, 1. Dezember 2006 10:28 schrieb Andras Mantia:
  Hi,
 
   I'm stressing this here as time is approaching quickly for GM, and
  I would like to have a 10.2 where my application[1] doesn't crash.
  ;-)
 
  https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=223794
 
  It has a patch attached - suggested by the imagemagick developers -
  , but wasn't even commented by a suse guy yet. :-(
 
  Please review and if possible, include it.

 If it's not affecting a program from the default installation, it
 will hardly be fixed before 10.2 GM taking that Vladmir is also
 maintainer of several packages that _do_ affect programs from the
 default installations (like all CD burning apps).

A quick check in YaST shows that ImageMagick is used by the following 
KDE applications from the DVD:
- kipi-plugins
- kismet
- koffice-illustration

I think the most interesting would be to check the kipi-plugins if they 
are using DrawImage or something similar. The README file from 
extargear/libs/kipi-plugins says it is just a runtime dependency and 
uses only the ImageMagick binaries, but the package dependency is for 
the libraries, so I don't know what's the truth. ;-) I also didn't test 
them.


 And 10.2 is basically done and it's not likely we'll see checkins of
 non-leaf packages that do not fix distribution critical issues. Just
 so you know

I think if there is no other solution, an update after release is also 
acceptable.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] ludicrous software management

2006-11-30 Thread Andras Mantia
On Thursday 30 November 2006 17:26, Marcus Meissner wrote:
 Is there a bugreport for this?
#22 is similar, but for 3rd party repo (I have not tested with the 
remote factory).

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Call for testing: New kernel released for 10.2

2006-11-28 Thread Andras Mantia
On Tuesday 28 November 2006 11:45, Marcus Meissner wrote:
 Its labeled 4th test kernel update in the patch summary.

 Since it is just syncing to the mirrors it might take a while to show
 up on yours ;)

Yeah, its not here yet, but I tested anyway the update. The KDE update 
applet said there a 3 updates availanle. In the yast online update it 
showed that the libzypp update will be installed (in the left part of 
the GUI), while in the right part summary 8 packages were selected to 
update (and indeed 8 packages were updated: libzypp, sqlite-zmd, 
yast2-ncurses, yast2-perl-bindings, past2-pkg-bindings, yast2-qt, 
zypper, opensuse-updater).
 Bug or I just misunderstand something?

System is an x86_64 bit RC1, updated from mirrors.kernel.org. This was 
the first and only time I used any update for 10.2.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Call for testing: New kernel released for 10.2

2006-11-28 Thread Andras Mantia
On Tuesday 28 November 2006 12:28, Andras Mantia wrote:
 he KDE update
 applet said there a 3 updates availanle.

Forget to say which one were those:
3rd kernel update
libzypp
update-test-trivial

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Call for testing: New kernel released for 10.2

2006-11-28 Thread Andras Mantia
On Tuesday 28 November 2006 12:30, Marcus Meissner wrote:
 This is correct. The updater parts are updated first.
 Then YOU will restart and offer the other 1/2.

Ineed, it restarted (I just didn't press Close to be able to write down 
the package names ;-)) and installed the update-test-trivial.
Still why isthe difference between the number of updated and the number 
of installed packages? Or an update can mean update several packages 
that depend on each other?

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Call for testing: New kernel released for 10.2

2006-11-28 Thread Andras Mantia
Ok, meantime the patch appeared on the mirror, 4th kernel update is 
selected.
Problem: Estimated download size: 0 B. Not nice. ;-)

The patch is downloading now (it takes some time here).

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Re: [opensuse-factory] UPS monitoring

2006-11-27 Thread Andras Mantia
On Monday 27 November 2006 11:46, Andreas Klein wrote:
 On Fri, 24 Nov 2006, Andras Mantia wrote:
  Hi,
 
   What was the reason of dropping any kind of UPS monitoring tool
  from SUSE? IIRC nut (http://www.networkupstools.org/) was included
  in earlier releases, but I cannot find in 10.2. I'm not sure about
  10.1, if it had or not.

 It is still in 10.2:
 inst-source/suse/i586/nut-2.0.4-20.i586.rpm
 Name: nut  Relocations: (not
 relocatable) Version : 2.0.4 Vendor:
 SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Nuernberg, Germany
 Release : 20Build Date: Tue Nov  7
 03:32:51 2006
 Install date: (not installed)   Build Host:
 c001n01.suse.de Group   : Hardware/UPS  Source
 RPM:
 nut-2.0.4-20.src.rpm
 Size: 2825949  License: GNU General
 Public License (GPL) - all versions
 Signature   : DSA/SHA1, Tue Nov  7 03:38:18 2006, Key ID
 a84edae89c800aca Packager: http://bugs.opensuse.org
 URL : http://www.networkupstools.org/
 Summary : UPS Monitoring Software

I see, it is just not on the DVD media (at least for x86_64). I searched 
for it in YaST and this is why I didn't found it.

Thanks,
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Re: [opensuse-factory] RC1 installation

2006-11-26 Thread Andras Mantia
On Sunday 26 November 2006 17:37, Christian Boltz wrote:
 - grub is not installed - my system still boots the grub which was
   installed by 10.1 (still living on another partition)

Possibly bug #223576?

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Re: [opensuse-factory] delta iso for RC1 broken?

2006-11-24 Thread Andras Mantia
On Friday 24 November 2006 10:34, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
 What's the best plan here now?  

 I suggest removing openSUSE-10.2-Beta2_RC1-Addon-Lang-i386.delta.iso
 and adding a README...

Can't you create a new delta iso which works against the version that is 
on the server (and gives as a result the RC1 that is on the server)?

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[opensuse-factory] UPS monitoring

2006-11-24 Thread Andras Mantia
Hi,

 What was the reason of dropping any kind of UPS monitoring tool from 
SUSE? IIRC nut (http://www.networkupstools.org/) was included in 
earlier releases, but I cannot find in 10.2. I'm not sure about 10.1, 
if it had or not.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] K3b

2006-11-19 Thread Andras Mantia
On Sunday 19 November 2006 04:15, Keith Goggin wrote:
 Hi,

 In openSUSE10.2b2 K3b refers to growisofs and not wodim.

Why should it  refere to wodim? ;-) growisofs is part of dvd+rw-tools, 
while wodim is the forked cdrtools suite, which doesn't contain 
growisofs.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Media for openSUSE 10.2 - additional sources, Idea?

2006-11-17 Thread Andras Mantia
On Friday 17 November 2006 19:19, Randall R Schulz wrote:
 Vincenzo,

 On Friday 17 November 2006 08:35, Vincenzo Barranco wrote:
  Hi,
  I tried this kommander script when i had 10.1, it works very well,
  but who of the new user that try openSUSE for first time know this
  application?

 ... this kommander script ??

 Which kommander script?

It was in the mail:
http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=43378

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: USB memory devices are mounted with root as owner and only root have write access

2006-11-17 Thread Andras Mantia
On Friday 17 November 2006 16:29, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
 As Enhancement or minor -  for discussion perhaps.  This is really a
 corner case but might bit us in other areas...

It reminds me of an other bug present in 10.0 as well (media found 
dialog pops up for all users), but to be honest I didn't checked the 
ownership there as it always worked well.
 Ok, to be more concrete: what will happen if there is a server used for 
LTSP clients, with 10 different users logged in to it, running KDE and 
somebody inserts a media in the server itself? Will it be mounted as 
the user sitting in front of the media or with the permission of some 
random user logged in? Unfortunately I cannot test it as I won't update 
the production server unless 10.2 comes out and I play a little bit 
with it at home. ;-)

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[opensuse-factory] DVD ISO torrent problems

2006-11-13 Thread Andras Mantia
Hi,
 I started to download the DVD ISO (x86_64 version) on Friday and it went
all well until it reached 2.95 GB, but now on Monday (I don't have
permanent access to this machine) it still didn't finish and KTorrent
says that the tracker status is Invalid response. Can someone in charge
check what can be the problem?

Andras

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Re: [opensuse-factory] ok box

2006-11-12 Thread Andras Mantia
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On Sunday 12 November 2006 13:07, Andreas Jaeger wrote:

 I don't remember :-(.  Jiri?

I'm sure it depends on the GUI style you want to follow. GNOME/GTK is=20
using Cancel OK, KDE/Qt is using OK Cancel...

IMO all dialogs in YaST Qt-GUI should use OK Cancel. Well, at least if=20
it's running under KDE. I know KDE has a setting to change the button=20
order so KDE apps look better under GNOME, but I'm not sure if it's=20
possible with pure Qt applications as well.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 bug prioritization

2006-11-05 Thread Andras Mantia
On Sunday 05 November 2006 13:56, Christoph Thiel wrote:
  https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=216982
  Don't know how to solve, but at least there should be an Xgl update
  for 10.1 that fixes the wrong %postun script so that at least those
  users who install patches regularly can update properly.

 +1, IIRC there is a compiz update in the queue already -- I'll look
 into this on Monday.

I'm not sure that this is the best solution as upgrade will fail for all 
those who missed this last update of 10.1.  I'd rather do what I 
suggested to fix the %postun script in the 10.2 package and remove the 
unneded SuSEConfig.xdm in an update for xgl for 10.2.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 bug prioritization

2006-11-05 Thread Andras Mantia
On Sunday 05 November 2006 18:09, Christoph Thiel wrote:
 On Sun, Nov 05, 2006 at 05:31:54PM +0200, Andras Mantia wrote:
  On Sunday 05 November 2006 13:56, Christoph Thiel wrote:
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=216982
Don't know how to solve, but at least there should be an Xgl
update for 10.1 that fixes the wrong %postun script so that at
least those users who install patches regularly can update
properly.
  
   +1, IIRC there is a compiz update in the queue already -- I'll
   look into this on Monday.
 
  I'm not sure that this is the best solution as upgrade will fail
  for all those who missed this last update of 10.1.  I'd rather do
  what I suggested to fix the %postun script in the 10.2 package and
  remove the unneded SuSEConfig.xdm in an update for xgl for 10.2.

 I guess you already stated this in the bug? :)

Sure, just that the idea was different here, so I thought it is wise to 
mention. ;-)

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[opensuse-factory] YaST question

2006-11-02 Thread Andras Mantia
Hi,

 Does YaST (sw_single) always download - on every run - the information 
from repodata if refresh is set to On for the respository or there is a 
check to see if it was really changed or not (using timestamp or 
filesize)? I'm have a feeling that it always downloads, but I might be 
wrong and packman is the one changing all the time.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] YaST question

2006-11-02 Thread Andras Mantia
On Thursday 02 November 2006 11:13, Andreas Hanke wrote:
 YaST downloads only a very small file in order to see if the
 repository changed. The rest is cached and only downloaded if
 necessary.

I saw that two files are downloaded:
filelists.xml.gz 1.5MB
primary.xml.gz 1.3MB

I wouldn't call them small. My connection is through wireless phone and 
fluctuates between 5-30KB/s. If it goes with only 5KB/s, it can take 
quite some time until it downloads the two files.

 If you have a feeling that Packman is processed slower, there are
 multiple explanations:

 - The Packman repo does indeed change relatively frequently, and the
 repodata have to be downloaded from scratch. Incremental downloads
 are not possible right now.

Yes, it might be, as now I see that the above files are not downloaded 
anymore. So forget this reload question.

Some figures though (AMD64 3200+, 1GB memory, the above net connection, 
I have the CD ISOs and Packman as configured repository and zmd not 
running):
- Packman refresh on: startup of sw_single takes about 45 seconds, from 
this one the first 25 shows no network activity, after that the 
download and parsing dialogs appear
- Packman refresh off: no difference.
- Packman disabled: the first 25 seconds are there, but after that is is 
about 10 seconds faster. 

Not scientific meassurement, but I think this is still quite slow.
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Re: [opensuse-factory] libstdc++.la library

2006-11-01 Thread Andras Mantia
On Wednesday 01 November 2006 12:18, Pascal Bleser wrote:
 What makes you think that ?

 AFAIK no one at Packman (nor do I with my packages) removes the .la
 files from the -devel packages, not even if they are for = 10.2.

 Referencing libstdc++.la (c|sh)ould be seen as a bug (at least I've
 been bashed for filing that on bugzilla, or rather, for asking where
 the heck libstdc++.la is on 10.2 ^^).

 If it is, it should be discussed with those package maintainers at
 Packman.

You misunderstood. 10.1 has libstdc++.la and Packman packages built on 
10.1 will have .la files referencing to this  libstdc++.la. 10.2 
doesn't have  libstdc++.la, so if you have on your 10.2 system Packman 
packages built for 10.1 and you try to build applications from source 
you might run into this error. Once Packman packages will be built on 
10.2, there won't be any problem as their .la files will not have any 
reference to  libstdc++.la.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Beta1 install report

2006-11-01 Thread Andras Mantia
On Wednesday 01 November 2006 14:47, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
 Worth a bugreport against xgl .

Done (# 216982).

 Please double chck that your installation is complete.
Everything else looks fine, only one thing indicated a possible failed 
upgrade: I still got 10.1 /etc/issue and /etc/issue.net . Otherwise I 
don't see major problems with the behavior (and reinstalling the MS 
Sans Serif font does not seem to help. Whatever, I don't care that 
much.).

I find some bugs and have a wish as well: #216977 - please release the 
kommander package on the CDs as well.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Problem with konqueror and https?

2006-10-31 Thread Andras Mantia
On Tuesday 31 October 2006 10:40, Silviu Marin-Caea wrote:
 On Tuesday 31 October 2006 10:29, Silviu Marin-Caea wrote:
  On Tuesday 31 October 2006 10:19, Silviu Marin-Caea wrote:
   So, does Firefox 2.0 still have SSL 2.0?  It doesn't look like
   it...
 
  about:config
  Type ssl in Filter
  All SSL2 entries are false.  So, SSL2 is not enabled in Firefox 2.0

 Irrefutable evidence :-) that SSL2 is disabled in FF 2.0

 https://wws2.wa.gov/dol/vsagents/

 You should receive the message
 Firefox can't connect securely to ... because the site uses an older,
 insecure version of the SSL protocol.

I don't know, but in Konqueror what you need is SSLv2 RC4-MD5. I don't 
know too much about SSL version, nor about what does Firefox support, 
so I should quite the discussion at this point. ;-) If nobody can 
answer, report this as a bug on bugs.kde.org for Konqueror/KHTML/KSSL.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] libstdc++.la library

2006-10-31 Thread Andras Mantia
On Wednesday 01 November 2006 02:07, Juan Erbes wrote:
 I do:
 /usr/lib # sed -i 's/\/usr\/lib\/libstdc++.la//g' *.la
 It's right?

if you are not familiar with CLI commands, you might use Midnight 
Commander or some GUI application. ;-) In mc search for *.la files 
containing libstdc++ and put the result in a list and if there aren't 
too many, you can manually edit them. In KDE you may use KFileReplace 
to remove la libstdc++ references.

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[opensuse-factory] Beta1 install report

2006-10-30 Thread Andras Mantia
Hi,

 I just updated my 10.1 system to 10.2 Beta1 to finally test the 
upcoming SUSE and in hope to find bugs and make the final release as 
good as possible. ;-)
 I used a way for upgrade that is for sure not well tested, namely 
System Update from YaST with the downloaded CD ISO images that were not 
copied to the hard disk, but were sitting on a DVD. This is all due to 
lack of disk space (but I ordered a new HDD today :-)). Good enough, 
the installation went quite OK,
aside of two issues, one because of my system (not enough hard disk 
space, so some packages were not upgraded, altough I'm sure that the 
space would be enough if I would uses --force for rpm), the other one 
was a more serious problem:
2006-10-30 20:46:56 5 stein(5536) [base] Exception.cc(log):94 
RpmDb.cc(doInstallPackage):2002 THROW:
RpmDb.cc(doInstallPackage):2002: Subprocess faile
d. Error: RPM failed: Updating etc/sysconfig/displaymanager...
2006-10-30 20:46:56 5 stein(5536) [base] Exception.cc(log):94
2006-10-30 20:46:56 5 stein(5536) [base] Exception.cc(log):94 ERROR: 
SuSEconfig or requested SuSEconfig module not present!
2006-10-30 20:46:56 5 stein(5536) [base] Exception.cc(log):94
2006-10-30 20:46:56 5 stein(5536) [base] Exception.cc(log):94 
error: %postun(xgl-cvs_060522-0.13.x86_64) scriptlet failed, exit 
status 1

Does it worth a bug report or is it known?

So far so good, I rebooted, modified the fstab due to the fact that the 
IDE port on Promise chip is still not supported (reported since 10.0, 
waiting for the patch to hit the upstream kernel). After the second 
reboot, everything looked fine until I started to write this mail. The 
KMail composer here is completely broken, and I know it's not a KMail 
bug as I used a self compiled SVN version from 3.5.5 branch even before 
on 10.1. The problems are:
1) text because invisible in the Subject line after the first space
2) spaces are not shown and cursor jumps erratic from one place to 
another, making input impossible. I found that I had set Microsoft Sans 
Serif as the composer font and switching to another one (even other MS 
fonts) is fine. Did something went wrong with font cache generation?

I can file a report for this as well, but I'm not sure it is a general 
problem.

Congratulation for now, and I'm going out to hunt for the -devel 
packages not on the 5 CDs... ;-)

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Icon Set for YaST

2006-10-18 Thread Andras Mantia
On Wednesday 18 October 2006 14:54, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
 Would this plan be ok?

Without seeing the new icon set (I plan to switch to 10.2 once the first 
beta appears), but reading all the comments and the heat around them, I 
think this is a good plan.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] RFC: Web Development Pattern

2006-09-26 Thread Andras Mantia
On Monday 25 September 2006 19:48, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
 I've added now bluefish, kdewebdev and nvu as optional (not enabled
 by default) packages, so the users sees them and can easily select
 them...

 The GNOME/KDE logic is possible as well - another time, this is more
 complex,

Ok. As I'm not at home, I cannot check, but is there already a package 
for Gubed (gubed.sf.net)? It's one of the recommended packages for 
Quanta, and altough it's not required, it adds big value to it, namely 
php debugging, so would be nice to have this one included as well.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] RFC: Web Development Pattern

2006-09-25 Thread Andras Mantia
On Friday 22 September 2006 16:12, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
  What about adding some tools for that ?

 No problem for me - let's hear what others think...

  Suggestions:
  1) Quanta+ (part of kdewebdev3 package)

Of course I suggest adding it. ;-) But remember, that Quanta+ needs 
other software to work completely and correctly, mainly the rest of 
kdewebdev and for some features cervisia from kdesdk. These are not 
hard, but soft requirements.
This is described in the PACKAGING file in the kdewebdev source.

I know Gnome has its own web development tool (Bluefish), and there is 
NVU as well, so it might make sense to have kdewebdev installed only if 
KDE is selected and Bluefish only if Gnome is selected. I didn't follow 
the pattern discussion closely, so I don't know if this is possible or 
not. If not, I don't mind if Quanta is always installed. ;-) But it 
needs kdelibs as well in that case.
I'm not sure where NVU would fit as well... 

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Re: [opensuse-factory] RFC: Web Development Pattern

2006-09-25 Thread Andras Mantia
On Friday 22 September 2006 16:12, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
  What about adding some tools for that ?

 No problem for me - let's hear what others think...

  Suggestions:
  1) Quanta+ (part of kdewebdev3 package)

Of course I suggest adding it. ;-) But remember, that Quanta+ needs 
other software to work completely and correctly, mainly the rest of 
kdewebdev and for some features cervisia from kdesdk. These are not 
hard, but soft requirements.
This is described in the PACKAGING file in the kdewebdev source.

I know Gnome has its own web development tool (Bluefish), and there is 
NVU as well, so it might make sense to have kdewebdev installed only if 
KDE is selected and Bluefish only if Gnome is selected. I didn't follow 
the pattern discussion closely, so I don't know if this is possible or 
not. If not, I don't mind if Quanta is always installed. ;-) But it 
needs kdelibs as well in that case.
I'm not sure where NVU would fit as well... 

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Re: [opensuse-factory] [Bug 141443] reentry to KDE from VC via Alt-F7 submits F7 to focused app

2006-09-09 Thread Andras Mantia
Are or your systems relatively slow?  I can reproduce the problem, but 
only if I hold the keys pushed for a longer time (SUSE 10.1, but self 
compiled KDE).
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Packages in default installation

2006-09-06 Thread Andras Mantia
On Wednesday 06 September 2006 17:41, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
  gdb
 
    ^^ remove?

 What do others think?

gdb is needed to get backtraces e.g for KDE application. How much useful 
those are without -debug packages is another question, but I think we 
should have this by default (and we can just tell the users to install 
the -debug version if more info is needed).

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Packages in default installation

2006-09-06 Thread Andras Mantia
On Wednesday 06 September 2006 20:11, vetter wrote:
 On Wed, 6 Sep 2006, Andras Mantia wrote:
  On Wednesday 06 September 2006 17:41, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
gdb
   
  ^^ remove?
  
   What do others think?
 
  gdb is needed to get backtraces e.g for KDE application. How much
  useful those are without -debug packages is another question, but I
  think we should have this by default (and we can just tell the
  users to install the -debug version if more info is needed).

 what if we make the *-debug packages require gdb?

After a quick test the backtrace generated can be completely useless 
without the -debug package or it can be useful but without line 
numbers. So I would rather make gdb a dependency on kdebase than on the 
-debug packages.
I wonder if GNOME or other application have a similar backtrace 
generation tool or not, but if they do, the same dependency should be 
introduced there as well.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Fwd: normal user not able to login to KDE

2006-07-22 Thread Andras Mantia
On Saturday 22 July 2006 16:43, Digvijoy Chatterjee wrote:
 After all this on the console KDE starts and runs fine

Then it should work if you log in directly to KDE as well. Have you 
tried to do so after this failsafe login?

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Bug 177758

2006-05-24 Thread Andras Mantia
On Tuesday 23 May 2006 12:24, Anders Norrbring wrote:
 Apparently it's the wake-up of Zen that takes forever..
Yeah: AMD64 3200+, 1GB RAM: 

Waking up ZMD takes minutes (4 minutes ) and the top processes are 
parse-metadata and gpg:

- gpg something like:
gpg --no-default-keyring --quiet --no-tty --no-greeting 
--no-permission-warning --status-fd 1 --homedir /var/tmp/TmpDir.9ivB2c 
--import /var/lib/zypp/cache/Source.aDBK1K/DATA/content.key

- parse-metadata is:


I *did not* used an FTP source and when I started rlug sl my internet 
connection was down (dial-up...):
rug sl
Waking up ZMD...Done

# | Status | Type | Name  
| URI
--++--+---+---
1 | Active | ZYPP | SUSE-Linux-CD-OSS-x86_64-10.1-0-20060414-082827   
| 
cd:///?devices=/dev/hdc,/dev/hdd;alias=SUSE-Linux-CD-OSS-x86_64-10.1-0-20060414-082827
2 | Active | ZYPP | SUSE-Linux-add-on-CD-10.1-0-20060423-180936   
| 
cd:///?devices=/dev/hdc,/dev/hdd;alias=SUSE-Linux-add-on-CD-10.1-0-20060423-180936
3 | Active | ZYPP | 20060516-193554   
| ftp://ftp.iasi.roedu.net/mirrors/ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/update/10.1 
4 | Active | ZYPP | SUSE-Linux-10.1-Updates   
| ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/update/10.1/   
5 | Active | ZYPP | 
SUSE-Linux-10.1-CD-download-x86_64-10.1-0-20060517-172513 | 
dvd:///?alias=SUSE-Linux-10.1-CD-download-x86_64-10.1-0-20060517-172513
6 | Active | ZYPP | 20060517-180334

Before you tell me about the dups, in Yast Installation Sources (which 
again takes quite some time to show up completely) I have the 
following:
On Off SUSE Linux 10.1 dvd:///
Off On YUM 
ftp://ftp.iasi.roedu.net/mirrors/ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/update/10.1
On On YUM dir:///media/extra/data/data/opensuse/packman/10.1
On On YUM ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/update/10.1

The first update was added manually, while during registration it added 
the last one (it failed to detect a mirror for me). 
So in this case it cannot be about downloading a huge XML file or 
something like that.

rug ca

Sub'd? | Name  | 
Service
---+---+--
   | SUSE-Linux-CD-OSS-x86_64-10.1-0-20060414-082827   | 
SUSE-Linux-CD-OSS-x86_64-10.1-0-20060414-082827
   | SUSE-Linux-add-on-CD-10.1-0-20060423-180936   | 
SUSE-Linux-add-on-CD-10.1-0-20060423-180936
Yes| 20060516-193554   | 
20060516-193554
Yes| 20060517-180334   | 
20060517-180334
Yes| SUSE-Linux-10.1-CD-download-x86_64-10.1-0-20060517-172513 | 
SUSE-Linux-10.1-CD-download-x86_64-10.1-0-20060517-172513
Yes| SUSE-Linux-10.1-Updates   | 
SUSE-Linux-10.1-Updates


The system is an update from 10.0 in several steps through some beta's 
and RC's.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Bug 177758

2006-05-24 Thread Andras Mantia
On Wednesday 24 May 2006 14:11, Andras Mantia wrote:
 - parse-metadata is:
This was not pasted in...

/usr/lib64/zmd/parse-metadata /var/lib/zmd/zmd.db zypp 
dir:///media/extra/data/data/opensuse/packman/10.1/ 
dir:///media/extra/data/data/opensuse/packman/10.1/ 
dir:///media/extra/data/data/opensuse/packman/10.1/

or

/usr/lib64/zmd/parse-metadata /var/lib/zmd/zmd.db zypp 
dvd:///?alias=SUSE-Linux-10.1-CD-download-x86_64-10.1-0-20060517-172513 
dvd:///?alias=SUSE-Linux-10.1-CD-download-x86_64-10.1-0-20060517-172513 
dvd:///?alias=SUSE-Linux-10.1-CD-download-x86_64-10.1-0-20060517-172513


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Re: [opensuse-factory] Bug 177758

2006-05-24 Thread Andras Mantia
On Wednesday 24 May 2006 16:11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

  /usr/lib64/zmd/parse-metadata /var/lib/zmd/zmd.db zypp
 
  [...]
 
  /usr/lib64/zmd/parse-metadata /var/lib/zmd/zmd.db zypp

 Why does this executable live in /usr/lib64? How can zmd.exe find it
 there? Is it compiled differently on lib64 systems? But wasn't it
 supposed to be architecture independent?

SUSE uses lib64 for default 64bit libraries, so on AMD64 everything is 
is /usr/lib64.

 Sounds like another bug...

I don't think so.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Bug 177758

2006-05-24 Thread Andras Mantia
On Tuesday 23 May 2006 18:30, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
 I'm just putting our current packages to ftp.suse.com and mirrors for
 testing:

 ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/aj/10.1-packagemanagement-update-test/

 If the test is successfull, those packages will go out next week as
 online update.  I'll write release notes later on what has changed,

I wanted to try this, but the first try is not successfull. When I tried 
to add the above as install-source, first I refused to import your key. 
It failed to add. Next I choose import, now the dialog is there after 
several tens of minutes (I had my lunch meantime). I guess I have to 
update the rpms by hand.

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[opensuse-factory] Bug handling

2006-05-24 Thread Andras Mantia
Hi,

 Can someone from SUSE tell me how bug handling is done there? I mean, 
if there is a bug reported for some version and is not fixed in that 
version, is it taken in account for upcoming versions or it is just 
forgotten? An example:
- a bug (like #176249 and previously #148638) is reported for 10.0
- it was closed with WONTFIX as the change cannot be made to a released 
product
- the bug is still present in 10.1 (somebody reports again)
- the bug is closed again as it's too late and risky to do it
- the bug is still present and will be possibly present in 10.2 (unless 
it's fixed upstream)

(The upcoming possible scenario is:
- somebody reports still present in 10.2 in a new bug
- it get's closed as too late now for 10.2, maybe 10.3)

The problem I have is not the fact that is not fixed, but the fact that 
the bug report is closed even if it is present (and gets forgotten).

In KDE we do the following: if a bug is reported for version X it is 
considered to be present in all versions  X unless somebody says 
otherwise, but in case of SUSE this doesn't seem to be the case.

Please enlighten me. ;-)

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Bug handling

2006-05-24 Thread Andras Mantia
On Wednesday 24 May 2006 17:04, Marcus Meissner wrote:
 On Wed, May 24, 2006 at 04:57:55PM +0300, Andras Mantia wrote:
  Hi,
 
   Can someone from SUSE tell me how bug handling is done there? I
  mean, if there is a bug reported for some version and is not fixed
  in that version, is it taken in account for upcoming versions or it
  is just forgotten? An example:
  - a bug (like #176249 and previously #148638) is reported for 10.0
  - it was closed with WONTFIX as the change cannot be made to a
  released product

 Should not have happened. In this case the bug should be assigned
 to the next product.

  - the bug is still present in 10.1 (somebody reports again)
  - the bug is closed again as it's too late and risky to do it

 Same as above.

I reopened in both cases. ;-)

 You can reassign it to the next product, right now if possible.

 If it is still in the codebase, say so, reopen it, move it to the
 next product.

Well, I cannot test the upcoming 10.2, so I cannot just reassign. ;-) 
But I make sure at least to keep the bugs open as still as it is 
present in versions that I test. 

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Bug 177758

2006-05-24 Thread Andras Mantia
On Wednesday 24 May 2006 16:32, Andras Mantia wrote:
 How can I do it? I see no dups in GUI so if you suggest that I should
 use a command line tool, there is a problem for the regular end
 user...

After removing the duplicates, upgrading the rpm, restarting zmd and 
waiting a little:
time rug sl
Waking up ZMD...Done

# | Status | Type | Name  
| URI
--++--+---+
1 | Active | ZYPP | 20060516-193554   
| ftp://ftp.iasi.roedu.net/mirrors/ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/update/10.1
2 | Active | ZYPP | 
SUSE-Linux-10.1-CD-download-x86_64-10.1-0-20060517-172513 | 
dvd:///?alias=SUSE-Linux-10.1-CD-download-x86_64-10.1-0-20060517-172513
3 | Active | ZYPP | 20060517-180334   
| dir:///media/extra/data/data/opensuse/packman/10.1/


real3m13.341s
user0m0.484s
sys 0m0.008s


This is better, but I'm not sure if not the removal of duplicates 
helped. The new one seems to be slow as the old one.

Andras


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Re: [opensuse-factory] Online update issue

2006-05-18 Thread Andras Mantia
On Wednesday 17 May 2006 18:06, houghi wrote:
 Also it might be that there is no CD[1-5] because they use a DVD, or
 nameing changes with a next version, or people use real CDs.
 I also do not have the names of all ISOs available from SUSE.

1) You anyway need to release a new version for each SUSE release, so 
you could get the ISO name and hardcode into the script. ;-)

2) create a config file for the script (or use command line arguments) 
to specify either all the ISO files or the CD to use as the main one 
(extracted the last time).

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Online update issue

2006-05-18 Thread Andras Mantia
On Thursday 18 May 2006 20:31, Marcus Meissner wrote:
 Also, if you now install a package it will check if there is a
 security update and retrieve and install the fixed package instead.

Is this silently done? What happens if you don't have an internet 
connection at install time?

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Online update issue

2006-05-18 Thread Andras Mantia
On Thursday 18 May 2006 20:31, Marcus Meissner wrote:
 Also, if you now install a package it will check if there is a
 security update and retrieve and install the fixed package instead.

I was too quick as I have a 3rd question as well: does it retrieve the 
full package from the update mirror or it installs the package from the 
medium and gets the update?

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[opensuse-factory] Online update issue

2006-05-16 Thread Andras Mantia
Hi,

 I'm officially confused by the new way of updating. First: are there 
any updates available at this moment? If I start the Online update 
from Yast, it says no patches available. 
I tried to see how can I configure the online update. To my surprise 
there are two entries called Online Update Configuration and Online 
Update Setup. For me it means the same, luckily the second shows in 
the tooltip that it is the configuration for automatic updates. 
  So try the first one (Online Update Configuration): clicking on 
Details or Next gives me the following error (after a while): An error 
occurred while connecting to server. Details shows: No products to 
register.
 Now let's see  Online Update Setup: I get a nearly blank window with 
the hints on the left an the Automatic Online Update Setup. No config 
options, just the Back/Abort/Finish buttons.

Does online update work for anyone or this is just a plain bug and I 
should report.

I used 10.1-GM, from a DVD created with makeSUSEdvd 0.29 (and yes, I get 
a signing error).  I updated an RC2 system (which previously was 
updated from 10.0 in more steps). 


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Re: [opensuse-factory] Online update issue

2006-05-16 Thread Andras Mantia
On Tuesday 16 May 2006 16:40, Christoph Thiel wrote:
 On Tue, 16 May 2006, Marcus Meissner wrote:
I'm officially confused by the new way of updating. First: are
   there any updates available at this moment? If I start the
   Online update from Yast, it says no patches available.
 
  There should be an opera and a pdns security patch.

 ... in case you installed thosed packages -- which isn't the default
 case, IIUC.

I have opera installed (8.52-12, x86_64), still nothing comes up. I 
guess it's time to open 3 bugreports...

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Online update issue

2006-05-16 Thread Andras Mantia
On Tuesday 16 May 2006 17:08, Marcus Meissner wrote:
 Check the configured Update Server by hand please, if it has the
 pathces already. Perhaps it is behind in time :/

I would if I would know where to check it. ;-) As I wrote in the 
original mail, the config dialogs in Yast are not really working.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Online update issue

2006-05-16 Thread Andras Mantia
On Tuesday 16 May 2006 17:42, Marcus Meissner wrote:
  I've updated RC3--GM via a DVD created with makeSuSEdvd (v. 0.30)
  and the Online Update Configuration failed with the message No
  products to register..

 If you had the Add On CD in the DVD, then this will happen.

Hm, I also put the add-on CD to the DVD. Is there a known way to fix 
this without reinstalling everything?

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Online update issue

2006-05-16 Thread Andras Mantia
On Tuesday 16 May 2006 17:13, Marcus Meissner wrote:
 YaST2 - Change Installation Source. It should list at least 1 remote
 Update Mirror ;)

Hm, I have only the local cd:/// entry... Should this remote repository 
added by the installer automatically or I should put it in manually?

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Online update issue

2006-05-16 Thread Andras Mantia
On Tuesday 16 May 2006 19:32, Andras Mantia wrote:
 On Tuesday 16 May 2006 17:13, Marcus Meissner wrote:
  YaST2 - Change Installation Source. It should list at least 1
  remote Update Mirror ;)

 Hm, I have only the local cd:/// entry... Should this remote
 repository added by the installer automatically or I should put it in
 manually?

Ok, adding it manually made the patches show up.
 Some remarks though:
- adding it took lot of time (downloading information from the server?) 
Hopefully it will not try to refresh the installation source from the 
mirror every time I run Software Management.
- the Source synchronization with ZMD failed. Save changes anyway? bug 
(https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=166287) is still present. 
I have to reopen it.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] java plugins for 32- or 64-bit seamonkey?

2006-05-05 Thread Andras Mantia
On Friday 05 May 2006 09:41, Ulrich Windl wrote:
 Wouldn't it be preferrable to ship/install a 32bit executable of the
 browser for archs that support running 32 and 64 bit binaries? I
 mean: Who needs 64 bit in a browser? Or some intermediate 64-bit stub
 that does an exec to a 32 bit program (Actually I don't know whow the
 plugin mechanism works)

This is possible with Konqueror only, and yes Konqueror 64 bit can use 
the 32bit plugins, like flash if you use the 32bit nspluginviewer. 
AFAIK SUSE has a setup where you can simply install the 32bit nsplugin 
aside of 64bit Konqueror with no problems.
With Firefox, this is not possible. You have to install the 32bit 
version of the browser, but you can do it, can't you. ;-)

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Re: [opensuse-factory] new DVD idea

2006-05-02 Thread Andras Mantia
On Tuesday 02 May 2006 14:54, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  I think some mail I sent with this slipped through the cracks the
  other day, so I'm trying again. Here's my brand new idea for how to
  get DVD images with none of the ever increasing problems with
  signatures on files:
 
  SUSE doesn't want to distribute both DVD and CD iso images due to
  the impact on mirrors and network traffic, but what about this
  plan:
 
  Create the DVD with the same packages as the 5 CDs, organize the
  media as it is supposed to be organized, sign all the files
  correctly, etc.
 
  Then, remove all the actual .rpm files from the tree, and make an
  iso of just the DVD infrastructure that is left over. This will be
  a relatively small file that could easily be distributed with the
  CDs.

 Jigdo can do this - and we did it for 10.0.  This could be done for
 10.1 as well,

In a BR (#162780) I asked for jigdo again to try out (for a -devel CD at 
least). Will someone at SUSE create it? 

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Re: [opensuse-factory] RC3 factory

2006-04-29 Thread Andras Mantia
On Saturday 29 April 2006 13:33, Mauricio Teixeira (netmask) wrote:
 I don't know what is worse: waiting for 3G download, or waiting for
 the delta isos to be applied. :)

It really depends. I have a relatively bad internet connection (and I 
pay per minute usage), while a fairy good computer, so applying the 
delta iso takes much less time, and even if it took more, it is much 
cheaper than downloading everything again or doing always a net 
install/upgrade.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Delta-ISO problem for CD1

2006-04-23 Thread Andras Mantia
On Sunday 23 April 2006 09:46, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
 No idea what's wrong,

This morning I tried again, and it works. Might be some memory issue, as 
I have some borrowed memory now in my system,as my old ones failed and 
I'm waiting for a replacement. :-(

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[opensuse-factory] Delta-ISO problem for CD1

2006-04-22 Thread Andras Mantia
Hi,

 Until now I could apply the delta ISOs without problems. Now I cannot 
create the CD1. I verified, the md5sum for the RC1-CD1 is OK, the 
md5sum for the delta-iso is OK, but after applying, the result CD is 
NOT OK, both according to applydeltaiso and a manual checking of the 
md5sum:

md5sum SUSE-Linux-10.1-RC1-x86_64-CD1.iso
6fcd57b438477ebb90162236678ebefc  SUSE-Linux-10.1-RC1-x86_64-CD1.iso

md5sum SUSE-Linux-10.1-RC1_RC2-x86_64-CD1.delta.iso
ad44f70c5eee8ee7001fce102b229899 
SUSE-Linux-10.1-RC1_RC2-x86_64-CD1.delta.iso

The result of applydeltaiso:
md5sum mismatch, iso is corrupt

Manual checking:
md5sum SUSE-Linux-10.1-RC2-x86_64-CD1.iso
d55dadb1b636d3fe3433a7ecb5e1dc32  SUSE-Linux-10.1-RC2-x86_64-CD1.iso

It should be 47f3cf67680c0cafdf64911c0eabfc53 .

Any idea what can I do?

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