Re: [opensuse-factory] Is it possible to completely do without Gnome?
Rajko M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thursday 03 January 2008 02:43:27 am Andreas Jaeger wrote: Rajko M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Let me jump in, as I had the same problem. I don't use GNOME, but I guess that I have almost all installed. I laughed when Metacity and evolution data server were listed as dependency, but I had no time to play with, so I just let zypper install everything. I can't recall what pulled them in, but I'll try to see is there anything in zypper log. It would be interesting to see which packages exactly pull those - or others in. Please check the specifics, Andreas I'm trying to locate log file that may contain recent problem, but it is probably the same as this one: http://lists.opensuse.org/archive/opensuse-factory/2007-09/msg00630.html That above was on 64 bit installation (a guess), and this is 32 bit. So, I suggest to check whether beagle-thunderbird is installed - and then figure out which package in the dependency chain is unneeded (meaning: Grabs in so many packages), Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpSVn73rS62H.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Splitting manpages out of package is *fundamentally* wrong
Joerg Mayer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, Dec 30, 2007 at 03:26:57PM +0100, Stephan Kulow wrote: This has nothing to do with that. The reason the docs are split out is that PolicyKit is a pretty basic package required by many other packages for building. And if such a basic package requires texlive to build, we have to wait even longer before we can push out a new Factory snapshot. So we split these basic packages with big build dependencies into two source rpms. Sure, but then - that's life. But if you think it that essential/unstable - maybe the manpages should be created differently? This does not stop anyone from adding a Recommend or even a Require to the base package - I would suggest a Recommend, because the man page is still only nice to have for people not wanting to use Policykit. I strongly disagree: It's the wrong thing to do: The manpages need to be packaged with the application. And if that can't be done, then see the comment above. Removing the manpages is really really wrong (I may have said that already but that's how I feel :-) and removing them from the base package due to *build* reasons is no excuse - really: a) the texlive should not be broken over longer periods of time anyway. It has nothing to do with broken builds. It generates build cycles and takes a long time when we bootstrap. texlive has a lot of dependencies including packages that require PolicyKit - and you need texlive to build PolicyKit. b) maybe adding pregenerated manpages to the source package would be an acceptable solution to the problem, so a broken tex package could be worked around in the build process by copying the pregenerated stuff. So just file a bug report. To what extent? That the need to be added back or that a require/recommend should be added - and if the latter one: where? A bug that the main PolicyKit package should recommend the package with the man pages, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpgZKvUeIY8G.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Is it possible to completely do without Gnome?
M9. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, I upgraded all pkgs manualy choosen.. When trying to get rid of gnome, this was impossible... Very anoying, to have to install pkgs and apps to your system, you never use, just to fullfill deps. Which packages exactly are on your system that you want to get rid of? Is there a way to check which gnome specific pkgs are realy needed to run suse? I am satisfied with KDE and if xfce is dependable on gnome, i will get rid of it also. I want to run a 'gnomeclean' KDE environment. Is this possible? (strange that these have to be mixed to function anyway.) This way i am forced to 'check' gnome also, which i do not want. You should not need to check the GNOME pattern at all It is silly, that it is not possible to update a system, due to an invalid DE, one not wants to use, don't you agree? There are packages like flashplayer, acrobat reader and gimp that use the gtk libraries - are you speaking about these? Or what is your problem? A lot of libraries are kind of system libraries, you cannot get rid of them, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpuqdIU9IUdV.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Bugzilla Tutorial for testers
Keith Goggin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] Now in the interest of not wasting anybody's time, including my own, I would like to suggest that all testers, including volunteers, be given access to Novell's Bugzilla tutorials. Which bugzilla tutorials are you speaking about? The canonical place for openSUSE bugs is the openSUSE wiki: http://en.opensuse.org/Submit_a_Bug Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgprZOOvWi7J5.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Bugzilla Tutorial for testers
Keith Goggin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Friday 14 December 2007 21:57:50 Andreas Jaeger wrote: Keith Goggin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] Now in the interest of not wasting anybody's time, including my own, I would like to suggest that all testers, including volunteers, be given access to Novell's Bugzilla tutorials. Which bugzilla tutorials are you speaking about? https://bugzilla.novell.com/index.cgi contains the following reference:- Notes to Employees (important) * Please follow these instructions to gain access to Novell's Bugzilla. * If you would like some training on Bugzilla, please visit the Novell Bugzilla training site. = Ah, that one - just checked: that training site does not contain anything that is not available elsewhere. This site is password protected. Yes, as it's in a section for Employees. I'll look into this. The canonical place for openSUSE bugs is the openSUSE wiki: http://en.opensuse.org/Submit_a_Bug Which if I am not mistaken says precisely nothing about search criteria. It's a wiki - feel free to add something ;-) Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgp1nua6Opo5G.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Upgrade from openSUSE 10.3 (i586) Beta2 to 10.3 possible?
Wolfgang Woehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dienstag, 23. Oktober 2007 Alexey Eremenko: On 10/23/07, Wolfgang Woehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Can I upgrade my beta2 via zypper or yast to 10.3? Wolfgang PS: I'm not really aware of whether this is the right list but I'm actually not sitting in the factory box so ignore me if this question is way out of line, thank you. I believe this is possible. Add 10.3 final to your Yast repository, and try to use System Update Would I have to remove repositories like factory or opensuse xgl beforehand? Remove factory, otherwise you will update to head of factory instead of 10.3 final. Take care that you use the xgl 10.3 repository - and then it should work... You can use zypper update -t package as well. Note these are unsupported ways to update which have not really been tested, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpZo6QcEX45l.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Network problem
Donn L Washburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hey Group; I have tracked a problem down concerning the abillity to ping but not be able to go through the DNS lookup. This is a Yast2 problem. Yast2Network DevicesNetwork Card fails to correctly write the broadcast and netmask correctly afte being set and saved SuSE 10.3 GM not using DHCP and fiewall, IPV6 all off ifconfig shows the problem and ifcfg-eth# is the file that is being written incorrectly. I do have two eth on this system Could you file a bugreport at bugzilla.novell.com and attach the wrong files, the correct ones and the YaST log files? thanks, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpkz6FSejNJt.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Looking outside the box
Josef Assad [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Andreas Jaeger wrote: I suggest to install at least one of these products on real hardware and evaluate the distribution and try to get ideas for our next product. Does it make sense to make an effort to survey people who have gone from openSUSE to another distro or OS (and that includes distro tourists, those fun folk who indiscriminately jump on new releases)? I don't know how much response the YaST survey got, but it might be a way to: So far around 5000 people participated. - Get feedback from people who made a conscious decision to go with something other than openSUSE - Visibly reach out to the open source community at large I'd be happy to draft such a survey myself. Of course, it would subsequently require more than one man for spreading the word. Thoughts? Might be interesting as well - but this mail was asking developers who use openSUSE to get first hand experience with other systems, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform / openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgp1H3WU8Pqvs.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Looking outside the box
Johannes Meixner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello, On Oct 17 09:55 Andreas Jaeger wrote (shortened): Check the area you're most familiar in, e.g. printing, ... Try to evaluate the distribution from a desktop user perspective Perhaps I misunderstand it but from my experience it may lead to totally wrong results if an expert (i.e. where one is most familiar in) pretends to act like an average desktop user (i.e. an unexperienced user). It's called thinking outside of the box. So, please try to do it ;-) For example printing: Peter Sikking (a usability expert) did some real research (i.e. with real average users). He wrote: --- I was curious to find out what users expectations are apart from get it on paper when they print. So Jan did some user testing. And guess what: there is no such thing as printing. It does not exist as a task, as a meaningful activity. One moment you decide to see it on paper, the next it rolls out of the printer. --- From his there is no such thing as printing finding he is currently developing a printing dialog which should really match average users expectations. For the full story, see http://www.mmiworks.net/eng/publications/labels/openPrinting.html In contrast if I pretended to act like an average desktop user, I would never have found out that in reality there is no such thing as printing. What I like to point out is that if an expert pretends to act like an average desktop user, the expert may act under totally wrong basic assumptions which must lead to totally wrong results. That's why I asked to share the results and discuss them ;-). Yes, we can all learn from the usability experts - but we should not depend on them... Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform / openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpnJxYPKEFGv.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] nagware: opensuse-updater
Wolfgang Woehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, I wonder if opensuse-updater could default to something sane like not nag every 5 minutes about new software? Like in Yes, thank you, I've got it the first time around and please stop popping up another 1000 times to tell us the exact same crap? You should be able to configure this - and if the default value is bad (or the configuration does not work), please file a bugreport. ps: knotify is crashing a lot (for such a ridiculously tiny app) and goes -vvv about it. As if anyone cared. Couldn't it just roll over and shut up? Or get fixed for a change? Could you file a bugreport via bugs.opensuse.org with information on how to reproduce? It works for me, so something must be different on your system. Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgptQeSUzNheA.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Sources DVD torrent
Volker Kuhlmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu 04 Oct 2007 23:29:50 NZDT +1300, Andreas Jaeger wrote: Volker Kuhlmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What's hppening? It's the 4th, but only for another hour and a half ;) Volker, you should know that we use German local time ;-). Travel 10 hours back in time ;) Sure, but even going back those (currently) 11 hours it was already past morning tea time in Germany. How's that for the impatient...? ;)) AFAIR we always released in the afternoon in Germany. Starting in the morning, it just takes some time to get everything out and all pages updated - especially when the day before was a public holiday in Germany ;-) Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpkSCSEWektv.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Sources DVD torrent
Volker Kuhlmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What's hppening? It's the 4th, but only for another hour and a half ;) Volker, you should know that we use German local time ;-). Travel 10 hours back in time ;) There appear to be no torrent files for the sources DVDs for GM. The last ones are for RC1, which probably aren't online any more. Is that lack of torrent files an oversight, intentional, or a still-planned? Christoph, any idea? Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform / openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgp631m7dec30.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] applydeltaiso RC1 delta to GM 10.3 - indata read 8192 bytes failed
Sebastian Furdal [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have download delta iso of RC1_GM 10.3 from [...] and then... # applydeltaiso /dev/sr0 \ openSUSE-10.3-RC1_GM-DVD-i386.delta.iso \ openSUSE-10.3-GM-DVD-i386.iso reading 363151280 bytes from old iso...done indata read 8192 bytes failed Wat's going on? 10.3 has not been released yet - that's the pre-release protection ;-) I just tried it with the ISO images (and not reading from media) and that works fine here. Could be a problem of your /dev/sr0 or a broken delta ISO on that mirror, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform / openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpHsp0KkmnUB.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Some 10.3 Bug Statistics
Donn Washburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 10.3 Alpha 5 has a problem spotting USR ttyS4/COM port modem 10.3 Beta 2 (this machine) Yast2 will not correctly save a file describing the printer paper size (letter). Every time I tell anything to print I need to run Yast2.HardwarePrinters all the way passed Edit and close so that it will print. I then hear the printer come to life. Reboot and it is lost. Did you file those in bugzilla? If not, please check the goldmaster first and if it still exists, open a new bugreport so that we can fix it eventually. For details see http://bugs.opensuse.org. A bug that was not reported in bugzilla does not exist ;-) Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform / openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgp9MborJrT4L.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: [opensuse] Upgrade from RC2 to final
Kenneth Schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, 2007-10-01 at 15:55 +0200, M9. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kenneth Schneider schreef: On Mon, 2007-10-01 at 10:41 +0200, M9. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andreas Jaeger schreef: The following worked for me: zypper sa ftp-distribution (once it's available) ^ I guess you missed that part. Ken Than i must have missed it also, is it already available? what is the url for that repo? once it's available means it is _NOT_ available yet, that is what you are missing. There is not url to give you. We will open the ftp server and announce 10.3 on the 4th of october, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgp7Tzd0ss0EV.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] 10.3 RC1 doesn't see SATA drive in mixed IDE/SATA environment
Bob Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have two hard drives, one IDE and one SATA. My 10.2 installation has /, /boot, /usr mounted on the SATA drive, while /home is a LVM2 volume spanning both hard drives. When I tried installing 10.3 RC1, it only detected the IDE drive. In the Partitioner module, choosing expert - import settings from previous fstab failed to find an existing fstab. The boot up process appears to load both IDE and SATA drivers, so I presume there is a problem with the SATA (sata_sis) driver. Is this likely to be fixed by 10.3 GM or will I have to stay with 10.2? Please report it in bugzilla (for details see http://bugs.opensuse.org) - otherwise there's no chance at all. This is really late and I'm not sure that we can fix it in time. But report it so that we can check it. The report should include the YaST log files as explained at http://en.opensuse.org/Bugs/YaST as well as the output of hwinfo --all Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform / openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpeplzqbFjnK.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Getting gdbm fatal: lseek error
Trey Sizemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm running openSUSE 10.3 RC1 + updates. When I attempt to launch mutt, and after passing my credentials, I get: Selecting INBOX...gdbm fatal: lseek error How large is your mail box? I'm experiencing this with several versions of mutt from CVS as well as the version included with openSUSE. I've also re-installed the gdbm and gdbm-dev packages. mutt-1.5.16-36 gdbm-devel-1.8.3-302 gdbm-1.8.3-302 Any idea on how to troubleshoot this? Bad gdbm package perhaps? Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpo6DRe0hCoB.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Getting gdbm fatal: lseek error
Trey Sizemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 19:05:28 +0200, Andreas Jaeger [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Trey Sizemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm running openSUSE 10.3 RC1 + updates. When I attempt to launch mutt, and after passing my credentials, I get: Selecting INBOX...gdbm fatal: lseek error How large is your mail box? The Fastmail account is ~760MB in total and the INBOX specifically is ~184MB. This is an IMAP account. Ok, so less than 2 GB - then I have no idea ;-( Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpEbgZc8e2HC.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] [status report] openSUSE distribution, week 39
peter nikolic [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tuesday 25 September 2007, JP Rosevear wrote: On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 12:16 +0200, Stephan Kulow wrote: * We're down to 0 blockers (two were just FIXED this morning) and 68 critical. The criticals may result in online updates available at time for the GA. GNOME team has this critical: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=307290 A fix is submitted in the gnome-utils package, not sure if it should be a blocker or not because it might throw errors on install or upgrade and those can't be fixed after an update (gnome-utils is also a leaf). -JP Hi . I installed 10.3 RC1 x86_64 on my lapto and found i could not mount the external hard drive on USB works perfectly on 10.2 and 10.3a3 but stops after that .. Please file a bugreport in our bugzilla as explained at http://bugs.opensuse.org thanks, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgplFKYr3Lo6y.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Ad: Ad: [opensuse-factory] EVMS in 10.3
Birger Kollstrand [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ok. Thanks for the information. So we need to find a new solution when the next SLES arrives. Great. Let's see wait what we will do for SLES11... 2007/9/24, Greg KH [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sun, Sep 23, 2007 at 11:06:52PM +0200, Birger Kollstrand wrote: EVMS has caused us too much trouble and is not maintained upstream anymore, so we disabled it for 10.3 as well, Is EVMS a dead project? Yes, IBM has pretty much abondoned it :( - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform / openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpNj6ZKJ9RA4.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] EVMS in 10.3
James Oakley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: According to https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=224462 , EVMS installation was disabled in 10.2 and was to be reenabled in 10.3. That was the plan at that point of time - but seems we forgot to update it. I'd like to try it in RC1, but it is apparently still not enabled. Is there any way I can enable it myself? EVMS has caused us too much trouble and is not maintained upstream anymore, so we disabled it for 10.3 as well, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpyNtqNlAIQX.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Support more than 15 partitions on libata
Felix Miata [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A SATA system with 15 partitions was never ever supported! I well understand that. However https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=218122 summary says Support more than 15 partitions on libata, not Support more than 15 partitions on PATA on libata. Unless I grossly misunderstand the nature of libata, I expect libata to mean libata HD support regardless whether used for PATA or SATA. There are several ways to approach the 15 partitions problem: * Use PATA for PATA disk (for people migrating from older distros) * Use LVM and you don't have a problem (preferred way for new installations) * Use some hacks with devicemapper to support more than 15 partitions. Bug 218122 is one such hack. We wanted to use it for the migration issue. It was not intented for new installations - for those, please use LVM! If I'm not wrong in my understanding, and yet 15 on SATA is unlikely to be supported now or within next year or so, then the summary of that bug seems to be wrong, and should be changed to remove any implication of applicability to SATA either now or in the future. More than 15 are supported with LVM since ages. The problem we're talking about is migration - and therefore the bug is called on libata. Seeing your confusion, I guess it should have been stated libata for PATA devices. Hannes has to answer the rest of the email - and I guess you should start this discussion on the Linux kernel mailing list or on the libata development list. We're speaking about a limitation of the upstream kernel, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpXHs0Mmr1pX.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Issues with RC1
nordi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi everyone! So far, RC1 looks pretty good. There are just a few things that caught my attention: - What happened to the media check? When I installed from DVD I was not asked if I wanted to check the installation media. Is this a bug or a feature? I know it was there before... Known bug, already reported in bugzilla. - Online update is giving a number of people a headache that installed completely offline, see bug #308832. It was filed for beta3, but it is still not working properly in RC1. There's a yast module that can be used. - What happened to the German release notes? I have release notes in lots of languages, but the German version is not in the rpm. Seems nobody did the translation yet - you can join the translation team! Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgp1Wc20xROaH.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] [status report] openSUSE distribution, week 38
Alexey Eremenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 9/20/07, Stephan Kulow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! You may have noticed I'm pretty late, which is already a status update: I'm heavily busy :) * We mastered RC1 late tuesday with just one ship blocker left * After internal testing we're up again to 7 blockers (+ 54 critical) It's great to hear about RC1, but if we have _that_ big number of important bugs, maybe we should make another RC, -- RC2 before Final ? Internally we make as much RCs as needed - but putting them out on the mirrors in the short time is more hassle than help, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform / openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpjZ9ocVnPrm.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: Support more than 15 partitions on libata
Felix Miata [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 2007/09/20 00:44 (GMT-0600) [EMAIL PROTECTED] apparently typed: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=218122 --- Comment #25 from Andreas Jaeger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2007-09-20 00:44:01 MST --- See the release notes They don't say what one should find in /dev as a result of running activate_dm_linear or what if anything people running 15 on SATA can do or expect. Ignore activate_dm_linear, it's really not working. Btw. you even get a popup which advises to use hwprobe=-modules.pata. Tentative release notes for 10.3 seem to be nicely hidden, not yet on http://en.opensuse.org/Release_Notes. It would be nice to see http://www.suse.com/relnotes/i386/openSUSE/10.2/RELEASE-NOTES.en on http://en.opensuse.org/Factory and/or http://en.opensuse.org/Development_Version (and bug # 305095)- I've been following that and every other related bug (keyword 15). Most of what's in them seems pretty cryptic. I would expect running activate_dm_linear /dev/sda at the start of an RC1 install should produce some evidence that anything happened in /dev, but I don't see it. As I've said: It misses some files in the inst.sys and therefore just does not work in RC1. and use hwprobe=-modules.pata to not use libata at all. I don't see how that could be of any help on SATA systems with 15 partitions. I already use it on PATA. A SATA system with 15 partitions was never ever supported! If you want that, then use LVM. the activate_dm_linear solution would only help with updating existing PATA systems. The workaround from Hannes needs some more work we will do for RC2 - but even then it will not be nicely integrated and only something for a real hacker. From what I can tell in the relevant bugs, activate_dm_linear seems simple enough for an unreal hacker to manage. I've been ready for quite some time if only I could find functional guidance on what to do or evidence that anything resulted from what I did. This needs more work for 11.0. Obviously. :-p I feel like the progress so far is behind a locked door to which the public key is hidden by secret code, or doesn't exist. The general advise really is to use hwprobe=-modules.pata - this works just fine. On SATA? What is FATE? FATE is our FeAture Tracking Tool Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpzwOEBVurCc.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: Support more than 15 partitions on libata
Carlos E. R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Thursday 2007-09-20 at 09:19 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: They don't say what one should find in /dev as a result of running activate_dm_linear or what if anything people running 15 on SATA can do or expect. I think they would appear under /dev/mapper/. I have used the device mapper thing previously (for encrypted filesystems in old twofishSL92 format), but I know pretty little about it, close to nothing. I believe it can be a very interesting piece of gadgetry, but I haven't seen any user documentation. A howto. Hannes promised me to write a howto in the openSUSE wiki. But with RC1 it just does not work because two binaries are missing in the inst.sys, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpjBV1Zj3eb0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: What changed between Build1005 and Build1010 in x86_64?
To check what has changed, you can check the opensuse-commit list: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-commit/2007-09/date.html It will show you all changes by date. The compiler has not been changed past Beta3, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform / openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpaUxmFvFqkt.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: What changed between Build1005 and Build1010 in x86_64?
JP Rosevear [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, 2007-09-12 at 10:53 +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote: To check what has changed, you can check the opensuse-commit list: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-commit/2007-09/date.html It will show you all changes by date. The compiler has not been changed past Beta3, The other thing is that there was a rev change (from 3 to 4) with no source change. Did we intentionally bump everything before RC1? You mean a change of the build number? We increase it always when we rebuild and one of the packages it depends on has been changed. JP, you were once complaining that after a rebuild the number was not increased even if it contained different dependencies - now it is really increased ;-) Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform / openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpFtk0tE7nuQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Can not install Beta 3, with more than 16 partitons (pata)
Carlos E. R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Sunday 2007-09-09 at 17:39 +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote: It searches the partitions, sees there are disks with more than 16 partitions, and pops a large warning, recommending to reboot the install with kernel option hwprobe=-modules.pata. That should not happen. Please file a major bug in bugzilla against Installation I did, and the bug is rejected as invalid: ] --- Comment #3 from Thomas Fehr [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2007-09-10 05:10:35 MST --- ] This is normal when you have a IDE disk with more than 15 partitions. ] ] The detection is not automatic. You need to reboot and add the line as ] suggested to you boot options. Sorry :-( What now? :-/ Those boot options do not work, either. We're looking into these bugs now, thanks for your testing! Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform / openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpSoMwBGQioo.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Can not install Beta 3, with more than 16 partitons (pata)
Carlos E. R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] I downloaded the dvd, which took two whole days. I boot the dvd. It asks for my language (US), but not for the keyboard (ES), which is a nuisance. You can change it in the proposal screen. If you would have choosen ES as language, you would have received automatically a spanish keyboard as well. It searches the partitions, sees there are disks with more than 16 partitions, and pops a large warning, recommending to reboot the install with kernel option hwprobe=-modules.pata. That should not happen. Please file a major bug in bugzilla against Installation So I do. (Typing symbols like =- in a non US keyboard is a nuisance. When will grub support different keyboard layouts?) When I reach the point of installation (when it tries the network in order to add online repos), it pops a window requesting insert opensuse 10.3 CD1, continue/cancel. I'm using DVD! Why does it ask for the CD1? Anyway, continue doesn't work (it asks again for CD1), and cancel aborts the install. What now? That's strange :-( Do you have a SATA CDrom? Andreas: is that the workaround you wanted me to test? It doesn't work at all :-( You shouldn't have received the first message at all :-(. Thanks for testing. More. If I type mount in one of the consoles, it yields nothing. Not even the root filesystem shows! Why? It seems to want to mount the dvd in /var/adm/mount. There is nothing there. I mount it manually, try continue. It still doesn't see the DVD. So I ask here for procedure. Thanks, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpLirpCwL7ak.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] reiserfs
I've asked our PPC guys (using Apple and IBM hardware, no Pegasos) whether they could reproduce this but they could not, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpEsFYn9DpxU.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Will factory be frozen to beta3 state?
Juan Erbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 2007/9/6, Christoph Thiel [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, Sep 06, 2007 at 01:57:32PM +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote: will factory be frozen to beta3 state? I guess pretty soon. If yes, can you please announce, when it is frozen? It's frozen now. The bugs are frozen also? Never ;-) You missunderstood Christoph. Frozen means that the factory tree is not synced out until Monday so that all of you have the same, tested tree for installation. We will continue looking bugs and checking them into our build system - and unfreeze the factory distribution on monday. This is BETA3 - RC1 comes in two weeks. For example when i insert a cd, I got the error: hal-storage-mount-removable no -- (action, result) https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=304845 Or the 16 bugs related to the ahci module driver, will be frozen? https://bugzilla.novell.com/buglist.cgi?query_format=specificorder=relevance+descbug_status=__open__product=content=ahci If I do in konsole: dmesg | grep ahci ahci :00:12.0: version 3.0 ahci :00:12.0: controller can't do 64bit DMA, forcing 32bit ahci :00:12.0: controller can't do PMP, turning off CAP_PMP ahci :00:12.0: AHCI 0001.0100 32 slots 4 ports 3 Gbps 0xf impl SATA mode ahci :00:12.0: flags: ncq sntf ilck led clo pio slum part scsi0 : ahci scsi1 : ahci scsi2 : ahci scsi3 : ahci Is this part of one of the bugs? Other bug with audacity appear as resolved: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=294693GoAheadAndLogIn=1 I downloaded it and installed the last version (audacity-1.3.3-35), and The Bug Come Back, when I try to save a project: Please reopen the bug. Program received signal SIGABRT, Aborted. [Switching to Thread 0xb67246d0 (LWP 5779)] 0xe410 in __kernel_vsyscall () (gdb) bt #0 0xe410 in __kernel_vsyscall () #1 0xb71e3835 in raise () from /lib/libc.so.6 #2 0xb71e5121 in abort () from /lib/libc.so.6 #3 0xb722041b in ?? () from /lib/libc.so.6 #4 0x in ?? () I admit the problem of this bug can be derived from the buggy ahci driver, such as other bug with the rpmdb crash. How can I test it? Thanks for your testing! Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgp4HmmcubKIm.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: [opensuse-announce] Announcing openSUSE 10.3 Beta3
Marko Schugardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello, there are no Live CDs again. At the moment they are the only possibility for me, to test 10.3. Will they follow? We plan to - we just can't parallelize some of our key people good enough ;-) Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgp2t0ZiL7Mux.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] About choices...
M9. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: First of all: I am impressed by the improvement made, compared with 10.2 : The network is up imediately, and finds the sources without any problem. Net-install just fine :-) To the point: The way the choices are made between the install-sources are not good. One should choose net-install, :or: adding media (addon) Not both. Yeah, something to improve for the next release. The dependencies are unsolvable, and installing is impossible...(when adding the media, *and* the the factory-sources) This should not be a problem in the final release with a frozen ftp release. To nerds this might be obvious, but to noobs, or lesser noobs, like me, this is absolutely not. What happens when adding both might give a totaly wrong impression: fail to install.. ;-( My suggestion is to grey out the option addon, if the net-sources are selected. Realy very much improved.. ;-) Thanks for this nice job, to all who made 10.3 possible... Thanks for testing! Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform / openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpaRYY8UiWmL.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Will factory be frozen to beta3 state?
Andreas Vetter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, will factory be frozen to beta3 state? I guess pretty soon. If yes, can you please announce, when it is frozen? Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform / openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpouqlUkI5i9.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] High number of serious bugs in GNOME
Rajko M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Monday 03 September 2007 13:06, Alberto Passalacqua wrote: And for instance: 301716Cri P5 open NEW Pidgin segfaults when sending AIM message to yourself. Taking the type of application is it really critical? Is that mean that critical is used for any crash? Funny, indeed. The reporter is Bryan Perry @ Novell, so it is probably considered important. It might be the company policy to set critical if application crashes, I have seen such comment in one of bugs that you can find on the list. If you look the list than you can see few similar reports. Later I'm going to see more, but if there are many of the above kind GNOME is safe :-) I'm not aware of something - let's downgrade this bug, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform / openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpF7uaLrHWQi.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] High number of serious bugs in GNOME
Druid [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 3) We (as the GNOME maintainers who work for Novell) have traditionally not focused on openSUSE much, rather spending most of our time on SLED. This improved for 10.3 and well continue to improve, but we lagged a little more than we thought due to SP1 of SLED 10. Seems one of those very traditional traditions that goes through centuries and more centuries, and generations and more generations. As far as I know, KDE is included in SLED too. How come KDE doesnt have those problems of too much focus in SLED? What can we expect of that? That the gnome in opensuse is barely maintained? Or does that mean that the KDE guys doesnt put much effort in SLED? It's not as easy as you're thinking. The KDE guys had some advantage with no major release for quite some time. Stabilizing KDE 3.5.x is much less work than stabilizing a major release like KDE 4 - or GNOME 2.20. So, there have been quite synergies between openSUSE and SLED on the KDE side - something we could not benefit from with GNOME. And that means we have to do more work with GNOME and then you might focus... I'm glad that the GNOME maintainers have already improve much working on openSUSE, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgp7mBtvZWPzo.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] [status report] openSUSE distribution, week 35
Druid [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There are a couple of exceptions to this, that I should have mentioned. The most important ones are: * GNOME (upcoming 2.20) * KDE4 Isnt this a huge change to be made while we are in beta, and cant it maybe lead to major breakage and lots of bugs? I mean, gnome is usually buggy, but as it may affect other stuff (like gtk programs...) sounded kinda bad for me, but maybe I dont have all the information, who knows... Both GNOME and KDE are in their beta phases and we use their betas already and will update them. We did this already in the past, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpggFHVGZoPo.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] md5sums for beta?
Frank-Michael Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jim Pye wrote: http://en.opensuse.org/Development_Version#Downloads There is a line hidden in the table called Checksums :) Even trying to refind them I had abot 4 clicks :( J I am sorry, but I am still not able to find the md5sum for e.g.: openSUSE-10.3-Beta2-DVD-i386-iso Any idea where to look? It's in the ftp directory: http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.3-Beta2/iso/delta/MD5SUMS.of.DVDs I propose to file a bug against the wiki that we show the DVD md5sums as well somewhere, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform / openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpm2z4m9sKoW.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] An adventurous update to beta2...
display information about packages, just lists the patches (empty list at the right section of the window) I would be happy if someone could add a short note to every item if it is already known or if I need to file a bugreport ;-) I have not found really many that are known to *me* :-( Thanks a lot for your testing! Regards, Christian Boltz PS: I'll now going to verify if all YaST modules support the help parameter (bugs 269886 to 269914) to get a better feeling... Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform / openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpAWWL00YEkQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] I‘m not able to install software via software management in Beta2
Krupanský Rastislav [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes, these repos are enabled.And i have just added local repo and i'm not able install packages also. Installation by command zypper in any_packages doesn't work too. here is output: linux:/home/user # zypper in opera * Reading repository 'openSUSE-10.3-OSS-KDE 10.3' cache * Reading repository http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/' cache * Reading repository http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-Factory-non-oss/inst-source-extra/' cache * Reading repository http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-OSS-factory-debug/inst-source-debug/' cache * Reading repository 'local' cache * Reading installed packages [100%] The following NEW package is going to be installed: opera Overall download size: 6.3 M. After the operation, additional 18.8 M will be used. Continue? [y/n]: y Downloading package opera-9.23-3.i586, 6.3 M (18.8 M unpacked) Unexpected exception. Can't provide file ./suse/i586/opera-9.23-3.i586.rpm from repository http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-Factory-non-oss/inst-source-extra/ Please file a bug report about this. See http://en.opensuse.org/Zypper#Troubleshooting for instructions. And here you are zypper sl linux:/home/user # zypper sl # | Enabled | Refresh | Type | Name | URI --+-+-+--+---+-- 1 | Yes | No | yast2| openSUSE-10.3-OSS-KDE 10.3 | cd:///?devices=/dev/sr0 2 | Yes | No | yast2| http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/ | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/ 3 | Yes | No | yast2| http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-Factory-non-oss/inst-source-extra/ | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-Factory-non-oss/inst-source-extra/ 4 | Yes | No | yast2| http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-OSS-factory-debug/inst-source-debug/ | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-OSS-factory-debug/inst-source-debug/ 5 | Yes | Yes | plaindir | local | dir:///home/user/Desktop/ It looks like a bug. Please file it via bugs.opensuse.org, Thanks, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform / openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpMb4FDC0DOS.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] I‘m not able to install software via software management in Beta2
Rastislav Krupanský [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello When i choose some packages and i accept installation, window install or remove more packages will appear and software management doesn't download software and doesn't install it.Packages don't downloaded from inst-source-extra and inst-source-debug repositories.None. From inst-source repo it works fine. Is it any bug? Are these repos enabled? What is the status of zypper sl? Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpLOBA4KTE7Y.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.3b2 one install CD
jazzis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is a 1 CD install available on the ftp? I DL'ed the single install CD and it appears needs 2 more sources on the standard install. The install bar shows 2 more sources and the install fails... openSUSE 10.3b1 installs fine from one CD on the same Please create a bugreport and attach the YaST log files so that we can analyze this, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpK9hFBu6wiC.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Configuring update Factory
Rajko M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I added 10.3 update repository, and it takes quite some time to see the end Online Update configuration. What is purpose of refreshing all repositories when one wants to configure online update? No idea - I suggest to file a bugreport Thanks, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgp2vZnvrvBuS.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.3b2 one install CD
Juan Erbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 2007/8/24, Andreas Jaeger [EMAIL PROTECTED]: jazzis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is a 1 CD install available on the ftp? I DL'ed the single install CD and it appears needs 2 more sources on the standard install. The install bar shows 2 more sources and the install fails... openSUSE 10.3b1 installs fine from one CD on the same Please create a bugreport and attach the YaST log files so that we can analyze this, Now, at least beta 2 detects the hard drives, and apparently the isues with the ahci driver are resolved for the ATI SB600/RD580 chipset. Good! I could'nt install beta 2, because it could'nt resizing a ext3 partition, to create a new for installing 10.3 beta 2 X86-64. I have It should resize it - please file a bugreport with the failed log files. installed 10.3 beta 1 32 bits in the hard drive (upgraded from 10.2). I used the resizing tool in other system with beta 1, and it worked fine (chipset AMD 8111/8131). I mean it could be a problem with the ahci driver. Please file it as bug and let's see what the developers say. Thanks, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpWwCrtPJPIu.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Packages to add to KDE and Addon-Lang isos
Juan Erbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: With the KDE iso installed (x86-64) is not possible to establishinf a internet connection via dialup or dsl, because they are not present the packages kinternet and smpppd. In the language cd are not present the most of the spanish language packages. The first bug should be fixed for beta2 - but please open a new bugreport for the second issue, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform / openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpkxvzdq6hkO.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] standby doesn't work in Beta1
Rastislav Krupanský [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello Does standby work for anybody? I'm trying Beta1.I'm choosing standby via Kickoff menu,but it isn't working for me.There's nothing doing. Please file a bug report - this should work. It might be hardware related, does it work with 10.2 for you? Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform / openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgp2PtyO6EspQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] standby doesn‘t work in Beta1
Rastislav Krupanský [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: in 10.2 it works fine. OK, please file it as bug via bugs.opensuse.org. by the way, i've just spotted icon of suspend to disk is missing. Where exactly? It could be another bug ;-( Thanks, Andreas -Pôvodná správa- Od: Andreas Jaeger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Komu: Rastislav Krupansk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Predmet: Re: [opensuse-factory] standby doesn't work in Beta1 Rastislav Krupanský [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello Does standby work for anybody? I'm trying Beta1.I'm choosing standby via Kickoff menu,but it isn't working for me.There's nothing doing. Please file a bug report - this should work. It might be hardware related, does it work with 10.2 for you? Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform / openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform / openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpt8FcNImkNS.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Opensuse 10.3 beta1 X86-64 will not install on SB600 / RD580 based motherboard - ahci module will not load
Juan Erbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have a Athlon64 dual core in a MSI K9A PLATINUM motherboard, and for instaling OSS 10.2, I must to install with install pci=nomsi in the command line. Later I upgrade it to OSS 10.3 alpha 6, and it works without important problems (32 bit version) But now I downloaded the kde x86-64 iso, verified the checksum, it was ok, and it will not install on my SB600 / RD580 based motherboard. The hard disk is a WD SATA2. I tryed with safe settings, acpi off, and with install pci=nomsi, but the ahci module will not load. The bios is setted to Native IDE, but it was the same in 10.2 and 10.3 alpha 6 if it was setted to ahci. Other detail, after the upgrade to 10.3 alpha 6, I changed the dvd burner from a Asus ATAPI, to a LITE-ON DVDRW LH-20A1H (20x burning dvds), and I must to change the driver from the ide-generic to pata_atiixp, to lograte that it works with k3b. In the installation proces hte system stpops for about 2 minutes trying to load de ahci driver module (in 10.2 32 bits I got the same problem without the install pci=nomsi in the command line), but this option will not work now in 10.3 beta1 X86-64. Now the loaded modules for the disk controllers with 10.3 alpha 6 32 bits are: pata_atiixp11904 0 ahci 25348 4 libata120396 2 pata_atiixp,ahci scsi_mod 140248 5 usb_storage,sr_mod,sg,sd_mod,libata We already have bug 299340 for this. you might want to add the information to it so that our kernel engineers have some more details, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpgXVyCYvzfQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] AHCI not working after Upgrade from 10.3 Alpha5 to 10.3 Beta1
Andreas Hoffmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi all, I have a problem with my installation of SuSE 10.3. I installed the Alpha5 version as the 10.2 version wasn't running on my System with the following chipset (due to problems with the AHCI drivers) Northbridge AMD 690V; Southbridge AMD SB600; I/O Chip: ITE IT8716. My Mainboard is a Gigybyte MA69VM-S2. The 10.3 Alpha5 Version was runninng and installing great on this system, but the 10.3 Beta1 don't run at all anymore. I updated the Alpha5 Installation doing a Factory Update with the new DVD from yast2 which worked fine, but after the reboot, to activate the newly installed kernel, the system cannot boot up again, it hangs with the following error messages: ata1: port is slow to respond, please be patient (Status 0xd0) ata1: softreset failed (device not ready) Those messages repeat for 3 times then it tries to fall back to 1.5 Gbps but also no success. Then the other 4 sata Ports are also probed like this and also give the same errors too. After this I tried a clean Install of 10.3 Beta 1 from the KDE CD which isn't working as the system hangs while loading the AHCI drivers during installation, the same as I observed with 10.2. What can I try to resolve(or to work around) the problem? Please do report a bug in bugzilla.novell.com so that the kernel developers can investigate and fix this. Thanks, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpj0gJfrKTI3.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] resolv.conf
Günther J. Niederwimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello, is this known ? after new installing Alpha 7 (nfs) from factory and configure the network no resolv.conf is written ? This sounds like a bug - please report it. thanks, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgp2SQQtJkqfr.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] displaymanager_autologin=
Günther J. Niederwimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello, is this featcher is gon ? I can't find it any more in the /etc/sysconfig/displaymanager It shouldn't be. It should be also in /var/adm/fillup-templates/sysconfig.displaymanager which is part of xorg-x11. Just checked and it's there. If it's really missing on your system in /etc/sysconfig, please check what happened - there might be a bug elsewhere, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpCrrHCG5Bks.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: Error in FACTORY repository?
Robert Kaiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Andreas Jaeger wrote: Robert Kaiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: - Refreshing SUSE_Factory Error reading repository 'SUSE_Factory': Unsupported kind of Filesystem Capability'filesystem(minix)-64bit' Skipping repository 'SUSE_Factory' because of the above error. - Of course, this makes me unable to update to a current FACTORY, so it would be nice to see it fixed ;-) This is a bug only on x86-64 - and fixed. After the next sync it should be fine again, Nice, thanks. I'm seeing this error on an i686 installation, FYI. BTW, is there any way to get notified when a sync has happened? Not that I'm aware of right now :-( Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpA20Z5YrWtF.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] why do factory-oss and factory-non-oss conflict?
Andreas Vetter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, I'm just trying to install factory (from NFS) with factory-non-oss as add-on. When going to the software selection, yast says: opensuse conflicts with factory-extra. Is this something fundamental or is it because my factory snapshots (oss and non-oss) are not in sync? I suggest to file a bugreport for this, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgp74f4epKOaP.pgp Description: PGP signature
[opensuse-factory] Re: [opensuse-announce] Announcing openSUSE 10.3 Alpha7
Stephan Kulow [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] The DVDs and the source media are only available via bittorrent. Unfortunately the bittorrents were not created in time, they will be done soon - and I'll sync them out later tonight. sorry, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpWTkdKxNpZY.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: [opensuse-announce] Announcing openSUSE 10.3 Alpha7
Andreas Jaeger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Stephan Kulow [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] The DVDs and the source media are only available via bittorrent. Unfortunately the bittorrents were not created in time, they will be done soon - and I'll sync them out later tonight. Everything is synced out now, the torrents should start working now, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpI3tKEY47Od.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] No ftp-Installation over local Network
Neotron [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, I wanted to install openSUSE 10.3-Alpha7 from my local FTP/NFS-Server So i have to type in the IP-adress of the FTP/NFS-Server but it is not accepted by the install-program. The problem appears while Preparation - System Analysis - Initializing installation catalogs... When I type in the IP the error message is: A valid domain name consists of components seperated by dots. Each component contains letters, digits an hyphens. A hyphen may not start or end a component and the last component man not begin with a digit. What did you enter? Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpMSLNWGCAnu.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] installation nfs factory
Günther J. Niederwimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello, is this known ? The installation of factory is not possible, it stops on Building repository ? Which architecture? My subject fealing, YaST2 lost the network ? Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform / openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpxmP5MAgIWL.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Error in FACTORY repository?
Robert Kaiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, Being quite happy with FACTORY (even happier than with 10.2), I just tried to update to the newest packages. I have a SUSE_Factory.repo pointing to http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/ for that, but today, both the FACTORY Update and Software Management modules of YaST just stopped at about 40-45% of refreshing that repository without a useful error message. Doing a zypper ref in the konsole then gave a better error message, which is as follows: - Refreshing SUSE_Factory Error reading repository 'SUSE_Factory': Unsupported kind of Filesystem Capability'filesystem(minix)-64bit' Skipping repository 'SUSE_Factory' because of the above error. - Of course, this makes me unable to update to a current FACTORY, so it would be nice to see it fixed ;-) This is a bug only on x86-64 - and fixed. After the next sync it should be fine again, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpUJG2ndyUSY.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] need iso images
Mohammed Omar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: hi, I need iso images for opensuse10.3 alpha6 for ppc64.. I have seen bittorrents, but can't i get iso images? Those are DVD images - we only distribute them via bittorrent, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform / openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpYmkD2gVYK2.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] problem with YAST software management
Gregg Nicholas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've tried Alpha6 (i386) on 2 different machines now. Neither machine can add more software packages after the initial installation. They keep erroring with 'No installation source'. It looks like my symptoms are similar to bug reports 293586 and 293705. I'm a newbie. Is there anything that I can do to help? You could try to install the new libzypp package from the next factory update - but that's all here. Thanks for testing! Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform / openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgp8RGoffX21E.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Gnome icons for YaST in KDE
Silviu Marin-Caea [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: After I have installed Alpha6 with KDE, YaST has Gnome icons. YaST has the Tango icons - this is a feature. If you want the old icons, please use the opensuse-Crystal yast theme, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform / openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpWrKiJbzVqm.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Gnome icons for YaST in KDE
Martin Schlander [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Den Monday 23 July 2007 10:01:11 skrev Andreas Jaeger: YaST has the Tango icons - this is a feature. If you want the old icons, please use the opensuse-Crystal yast theme, Funny decision, given we now know that those icons will integrate badly for 2/3 users. If you have specific icons that do not look as professional as the other Tango icons, please open a bugreport naming that icon. Tango icons in general fit much better to KDE4 than the crystal ones - and we would like to maintain only one icon set, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform / openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgp2e4REf8xt8.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Alpha 6: Firmware test x86_64 broken?
Andreas Vetter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, is it just me, or is Firmware Test from x86_64 and i386 DVD broken? It starts, falls back to ncurses and says in a red box: An error occured during installation. This happens on 2 different 64bit machines. The firmware test in alpha5 x86_64 works. I guess not many test it - please file a bug in bugzilla, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpfLYRSeqQ5x.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Alpha 6 install
Kenneth Schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Trying to upgrade from alpha 5 to alpha 6 and I'm getting a lot of curl errors with an unrecognized error code. Appears to be an ftp error. Never had this on all of the previous alpha upgrades. Yes, ftp install is broken :-( - should be mentioned on the Most Annoying Bugs page and in the announcement, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgps4G8BdBZRF.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: [opensuse-announce] Announcing openSUSE 10.3 Alpha6
Bernhard Walle [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * Stephan Kulow [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-07-20 10:58]: Am Donnerstag 19 Juli 2007 schrieb David Bolt: [1] It's still going to be useful to add extra packages/patterns and remove unwanted (non-OSS?) packages/patterns, as well as adding extra, third party, repositories. Actually this is very likely to be the goal of further releases: make the CD the installation medium of first choice and provide the DVD as collection of repositories and extra patterns. So you have to download and burn *two* media every time you want a real system which has more than a few KDE OR GNOME applications? No - it's just an option. The ftp repository is always available... Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpJprFOAUdhq.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Alpha 6 install
Kenneth Schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, 2007-07-20 at 09:19 +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote: Kenneth Schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Trying to upgrade from alpha 5 to alpha 6 and I'm getting a lot of curl errors with an unrecognized error code. Appears to be an ftp error. Never had this on all of the previous alpha upgrades. Yes, ftp install is broken :-( - should be mentioned on the Most Annoying Bugs page and in the announcement, Andreas Follow up: Installation finished using ftp, yes it is broken and has a bug number, I was able to continue by pressing the retry button on several packages. Eventually it finished. Some other issues I will open a bug for: network setup reports could not convert 'ifcfg-eth-XXX': file already exists. I had to manually remove the file in order for the network to be configured. On the plus side my wireless is now working again and will report this in the bug I have open. Yes, please do file a bug with all details (append the file), Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpSHtRvtDUtZ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] MNG error previously mentioned
Donn Washburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hey Group; SuSE 10.3 Alpha 5 and it was in Alpha 4 also I have tracked it down to a problem coming from KDE. From .xsession this MNG error 11 showed up and it goes for pages of lines. Does the profile mean a .profile file. .profile exist Any clues? did you file a bugreport? Please do so and tell us exactly who to reproduce it... Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgp4m6GXcxvkc.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] fingerprint reader support
Carlos F Lange [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there a plan to include fingerprint reader support in 10.3? There was already some support in openSUSE 10.2 - check our wiki. According to Thinkwiki there is a thinkfinger driver and Fedora has a libbiometrics RPM implementing it. The main fingerprint developers work for us and therefore openSUSE is the first distro to pick it up ;-) Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpOYpbCfVlsd.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] some packages constantly broken
Ain Vagula [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, updating suse 10.2 with Smart, some packages from Gnome repository are constantly broken, ie in 90% of cases 'server reports wrong size'. One of most certain ones is 'desktop-data-SUSE' (which was broken again at least in whole last week) and very often update-desktop-files' and 'desktop-translations' too. It almost never happens to other packages. In which repository is this? As I badly need them to test translation, it brings me to some difficulties... Adrian is marked as author of these packages, can you please pay attention to this problem? Ain Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform / openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpNQvumFSLDz.pgp Description: PGP signature
[opensuse-factory] Minutes from dist meeting 2007-07-05
* FreeNX: Use of /usr/NX This was not needed anymore since the packages could be easily fixed. In general, we want to avoid such directories since this is a violation of the FHS and therefore a product containing this package could not get LSB certified. * Handling of dropped packages: Problem: packages move to BuildService or other product, adding obsolotes makes it difficult to install these packages. Real problem: Package renames which miss one case, e.g. -32bit + devel split. We should be able to test these via solver test cases: * Generate RPM database of old product * Update to current release * Check which packages are not updated In general: The solver should say that a package has a problem and is not on new media - and then propose to remove it. QA tests Alphas eery two weeks with update from 10.2. AI: QA to report bugs and use the setting do not delete obsolete packages AI: talk about test case generation. AI: change the default in the control file (to do not delete obsolete packages) AI: draft paragraph for release notes AI: play with resolver * Improve debuginfo packages Some packages need many libraries for a meaningful backtrace. Idea: Add a debug_requires macro to the rpm spec files to add custom requires which then can be used by packagers in those spec files where it makes sense. AI: implement such a macro. No decision was made on removing/splitting the sources from the debuginfo package, we keep the status quo for now. * Log files and RPM spec Problem: I would like to bring up something else. There are currently some bugreports about package not owning the logfiles the included software produces. See for instance: #280493 #280474 These were reported to cause problems with a security checker. This should not only be a problem for log files but also for pid files and other varialbe data. It would need to be handled for deinstall of packages but not for update. We decided to reject these bugs for now as invalid. Let's understand the real problem first. AI: explain the problem better so that we can search for alternative solutions Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgp4CiCj7XxxY.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: Results of survey on use of proprietary software in openSUSE
Druid [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: please, This a about choice, there are two CD 1's each will take you to the full installation of your choice. Each will also give you a fully If it was about choice, I demand the wmaker one cd, and the xfce one cd... Lets speak the english clear here, right? Lets not try to put smoke in the scene and do some doo-woop magic and say its about choice and bla bla bla. Cause it is not. Its a weight we have to carry, and its exactly the way Ive said. It is not about choice, its about having to have gnome. Again: there Let me make perfectly clear that openSUSE is not a KDE distribution and neither a GNOME distribution - it's a distribution for everyone. It was always a strong KDE distribution and continues to be so. It always contained both GNOME and KDE - and continues to do so. I'm glad that it contains now a polished GNOME as well as a polished KDE. Our last survey showed that more than 20 per cent of our users choose GNOME. This is not the majority but a strong enough group that I will not tread them as second class citizien as you suggest - and do not consider them a weight to carry. We want to grow our distribution and therefore have to offer various desktops to attract users. It's not about having to have GNOME - it's about wanting to have the best desktops environments to attract developers and users. Btw. WindowMaker and XFCE users are far less and developers can create their own one CD if they want - and make it available. is no reason to not have kde one cd as the first of the 5-dics set, and leaving gnome to the 2nd cd, except for the only reason I ahve cited. Its not about choice, its not about anything you have said. Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpIh4Ukn1XyM.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] what happened to factory?
I just tested factory (the version that will be synced out asap) - you can boot etc from it but somehow libzypp is broken. I'll have our engineers look into it directly, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform / openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgp8tB3nVXLnD.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] what happened to factory?
Andreas Jaeger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I just tested factory (the version that will be synced out asap) - you can boot etc from it but somehow libzypp is broken. I'll have our engineers look into it directly, libzypp is fine - it's a missing libuuid package. We'll fix asap, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform / openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpFnaxlaUHVX.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: Results of survey on use of proprietary software in openSUSE
Thanks a lot for your feedback on TeXLive, this was valuable. I discussed further with Michael and we will do the following: * The 1 CD GNOME/KDE will not include TeXLive (definitely not enough space) * During installation the ftp tree will be added so that users can install TeXLive via download * The DVD9 in the box product will contain TeXLive * For the 5 CDs and the DVD5, we are currently looking at the available space and will then decide what to do. Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform / openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgptGeri86wmg.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: Results of survey on use of proprietary software in openSUSE
Richard Guenther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, 10 Jul 2007, Andreas Jaeger wrote: Thanks a lot for your feedback on TeXLive, this was valuable. I discussed further with Michael and we will do the following: * The 1 CD GNOME/KDE will not include TeXLive (definitely not enough space) * During installation the ftp tree will be added so that users can install TeXLive via download * The DVD9 in the box product will contain TeXLive * For the 5 CDs and the DVD5, we are currently looking at the available space and will then decide what to do. What's the point of still creating the 5 CDs / DVD5 if we now have the 1 CD GNOME/KDE images? That's the discussion we wanted to start once we have the 1 CD GNOME/KDE images for all architectures. ;-) We currently have it only for i386 - x86-64 and ppc are the next ones where we have to see whether we get everything on the media. Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform / openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpOjVQYW2XNr.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] what happened to factory?
Andreas Jaeger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Andreas Jaeger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I just tested factory (the version that will be synced out asap) - you can boot etc from it but somehow libzypp is broken. I'll have our engineers look into it directly, libzypp is fine - it's a missing libuuid package. We'll fix asap, Fixed now, the new tree will go out in the next hours... Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform / openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpw4buUUDQgA.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Results of survey
Robison, Jonathon (M.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That seems like one freekin' huge dependency just for a money manager. Shouldn't we consider re-packaging kmymoney with the needed libraries already in it? This will cause problems with updates - you forget that there's another library to fix. And it will add duplicates for those that install both. In general you break out the dependency from koffice so that you can install kmymoney with that dependency only. Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpgDrsXV1k5f.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] what happened to factory?
Peter Czanik [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello, What happened to factory? It has not seen an update for more than a week. And it can't even be installed, as gpg is missing from the installer... We hit a couple of bugs - and add one time were too fast and therefore the scripts never finished. In the end it was a problem with building OOo which is now fixed. factory is currently updated with fresh rpms for all architectures and should sync out in the next hours. gpg2 is now in the installer - I hope all other problems are fixed as well and we did not introduce new ones ;-) Sorry for this delay - I should have informed you, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpAAtxR1FLJ2.pgp Description: PGP signature
[opensuse-factory] Re: Results of survey on use of proprietary software in openSUSE
Michael Löffler wrote on opensuse-announce: Hi, the survey we did on proprietary software can be found here: http://en.opensuse.org/UX#Surveys It shows that we ship on the media some software which is hardly used (e.g. PlanMaker, SEPsesam etc.). Software which is hardly used we don't neet to ship on our media. Therfor my suggestion is to drop some software totally and offer some software only via ftp. To be discussed on opensuse-project. Best Michael PS: The question on TexLive was confusing. TexLive is open source but we wanted to know the use of it as it needs meanwhile so much space. So, Michael and myself *propose* the following actions: * Remove ARCAD completely since it does not work at all on x86-64 (see bug #248873) * Offer software that reached either 80% on Never or less than 15 % on Often + Very often only via *ftp* with 10.3. The following software would be affected: Planmaker SEPsesam TextMaker TeXlive Moneyplex falls also under this role, due to its usecase we suggest to leave it on the media. What do you think? Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpJXgtiHzgRA.pgp Description: PGP signature
[opensuse-factory] Dist Meeting 2007-07-05
Sorry for the late email, we plan to discuss later today the following topics in our distribution meeting: * FreeNx: use of /usr/NX FreeNX and NX use /usr/NX and this is the upstream default for NX packages by Nomachine. But /usr/NX which is not allowed by the FHS. Reworking the package is a major problem. What should be done? * Handling of dropped packages: Most update problems Thorsten run into in the last time happend, because of: We dropped packages, but nobody make sure that this package and _all_ subpackages and _all_ xxbit (meaning 32bit/64bit) packages will be removed from the installed system (successor). On openSUSE, this happend during Systemupdate with the YaST2 option remove no longer available packages. But with different Add-On Products, channels and other products from Novell, this is no option for the Enterprise products, and it becomes more and more a problem for openSUSE, too. So, if a package is dropped in autobuild, we need to make sure that: - All subpackages and xxbit packages are dropped somehow by other RPMs, too. Or this package has only limited dependencies, which will NEVER change in the feature. For example it has only dependencys to libc. Dependencies for openssl for example are already bad again, because that interface will change and customer will run in update problems. - We have a successor for all main and subpackages. The same is true for package renames, package splits, and so on. With the current renameing inflation because of the library naming policy, a lot of people forget to handle all subpackages correct, and we have left overs like -devel or -xxbit packages, which breaks the solver. * Improve debuginfo packages To get a complete stack trace, we need several debuginfo packages. The simple idea would be to copy dependencies from the main package to the debuginfo package. But this would give too many dependencies since it would lead to include always the gcc-debuginfo package (currently 300 MB). Another idea is to reduce the size of debuginfo packages and mark them only for backtrace - with removing the source code. Any comments, ideas, suggestions? Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform / openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgp2AubkFRBdO.pgp Description: PGP signature
[opensuse-factory] How to name that thing? Repository/installation source/Catalog...
The discussions on the various mailing lists on how to name that thing have culminated in a face to face discussion in Prague yesterday where the systems management stakeholder took the input from the community and the usages in current openSUSE and Novell products in consideration. The goal was to have one technical term that we can use use in a consistent way in future new openSUSE and SUSE Linux Enterprise release - in software, documents, wiki etc. The decision was to use repository. Other names considered where installation source and catalog. So, yes we now have a management decision ;-) to name it repository. I'm asking now the developers and documentation guys to change their texts and use it in new texts. On the other hand I ask everybody to give them some time and not file bug reports against documentation and software that uses the old names in openSUSE 10.3. Let's make it perfect for the release after - unless the teams can easily do this and tell us file bugs ;-) Regards, Andreas P.S. Reply-To to [EMAIL PROTECTED] is set for any discussions. -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform / openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgp5blV82C8r9.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] install factory key files ?
Günther J. Niederwimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello, I can't install factory Alpha 5.. ? This is not Alpha5 - this looks like current factory YaST2 tell me on my installations Path a unknown Error. Then File /var/tmp/TempDir.../content.key doesn't contain public key data ? I do a replace of the key files but nothing helps ? Is this a known bug ? Yes - and will be fixed with the next sync. And now we need to fix the next bug :- I hope to have everything fixed tomorrow again, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform / openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpZGVitMLDdf.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Check RPM packages required by a pattern.
Samuel Partida [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That's not what I really need Patrick. I need to get the full dependency resolution from a pattern. Why do you really need that? I kept the patterns minimal so that you see what's required and we don't need to have to add some package and then forget to remove it later For example, let's take the Base System pattern (base-10.n-build.arch.pat), it depends on other patterns (yas2_basis and sw_management_pattern I think), and on lots of packages. Those two patterns in 10.3 are optional. I want to get an easy way, a tool or something else, that for a pattern, it shows all the packages it need, resolving even the dependencies of other packages or patterns it depends. I think it is what ZyPP does, but I haven't found a shell command or tool to use the ZyPP resolver as I need. KIWI does exactly this kind of resolving and uses zypper or smart for this. I suggest that you look at KIWI and see what it does. I'm not sure if there is some Python binding or something like, as I use Python a lot for system administration, but I'm not a software developer neither I know how is the ZyPP API. Now asking to Andreas, if there is no such tool, then a new one could be created. zypper and smart are Open Source and additions are surely welcome ;-) As noted above you should be able to get this done - I just don't have a receipt for you ;-) Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform / openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] install from factory missing libstdc++
Günther J. Niederwimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello, by a install from factory, libstdc++.so.6 is in the moment missing from YaST2 ? Are you sure? What is the message? but we have two libstdc++, 41 and 42 on factory ? Yes, two different versions just in case... Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpYzJ6DbxjIR.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Check RPM packages required by a pattern.
Samuel Partida [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello everybody. I would like to make a minimal base system pattern for openSUSE, but as I try to leave the packages marked as required by the base system pattern and those listed on EXTRA_PROV, the installer always tell me that can't resolve all dependencies. Does anyone knows if there is an easy way to know all the required packages for a pattern? I wonder if there is a way to use ZyPP from command line over a pattern so it resolves all dependencies and get the full packages list. What I've done is to install a minimal openSUSE 10.2 on a VMWare machine and then get all the rpm installed. It works, but there should a better way I think. Please use 10.3 for this - and just select the minimal text install... 10.3 has a reworked minimal pattern, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpOrOXZLIdcv.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] torrent
Hans Witvliet [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, This morning i started torrent for 10.3-A5, One completed, one remains hanging, other won't start (no peers at all) I can still ping tracker.opensuse.org, but i get unable to connect... for several hours. Is the site slashdotted??? The one completed (bin-i386) i'll remain seeding, but no-one can find it, it's pointless. We had a server room shutdown this morning and it seems the tracker is not up yet again :-( Btw. see Adrian's announcement for details. Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpk6hcWIVHZT.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Alpha4 - Alpha5 DVD i386
Günther J. Niederwimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello, can any apply the delta for Alpha5 ? The Delta is OK (md5sum) The Alpha4 is OK (mdusum) My System breaks after ca. 900MB ;-( Just finished with these files (I've added md5sums): bf6cdc711b8703e2bfc971c1b4125098 openSUSE-10.3-Alpha4-DVD-i386.iso ff26a06823327f7447e691052dc51c02 openSUSE-10.3-Alpha4_Alpha5-DVD-i386.delta.iso Worked fine for me on an openSUSE 10.2 x86-64 system: zd1211-firmware.noarch (bzip): applying delta iso sucessfully re-created, md5sum: f51ec50be6b0a8d390327f0d1bb822c9 Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgp9truybGTkF.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Alpha4 - Alpha5 DVD i386
Günther J. Niederwimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: my mistake :(. after I run Memtest, I found the problem :((. ;-( Andreas, can we have a mini CD again, to install over Network ? You can use the one from factory - or use any of the CD1s, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpJqgitazCgV.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] install time 10.3-A4, 32-bit
Hans Witvliet [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi all, just obtained a via-board, 1Ghz CPU, 512MB mem Thought to give it a spin with 10.3-A4 Config: default +kde Compared with other boxes, it seems to take ages to install. This is one of the know bugs in Alpha4 - the resolver had some problems. y2base takes 100% cpu, It is still resolving, and specially the package zyper-0.7.1-12 seems to be a hard nut to crack... Even the install of 10.2 on smaller systems (intel 450MHz) didn't take that long. It should be fixed with Alpha5 again - if not, please open a bug report, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpciefu3sAnz.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] factory?
Peter Czanik [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello, When will we see the next factory update? In its current form PPC can't be installed :-( I guess, all the developers are now happy about finishing SP1 and gone to holiday? ;-) Once everything is build through again, we'll sync out again. This might take until sunday in worst case since we check in packages as well. What is broken on PPC right now? Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpxheTqA9xyv.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Pushing AppArmor into the mainline kernel
Alexey Eremenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: hi all ! I would like to ask if there is an effort to push AppArmor into the mainline kernel ? Yes - we do have some developers working on this and they went through several cleanups already. For example see the emails on lkml starting on the 14th of May: http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0705.1/3048.html I know SELinux is already there, so I don't know if it's possible to push AppArmor too... Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform / openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpDMtb1kt745.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Installing openSUSE with from internet with rp-pppoe
Vincenzo Barranco [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, So, I want to install openSUSE with the openSUSE-10.2-GM-i386-mini.iso, now is possible to installing it using pppoe for retreiving the packages from the net? This is not working - you need a router to do this, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform / openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpT66GEShQ6P.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Bug Day/s Lets Get it going.
So, what needs to be done to get this going (besides announcing a day)? I'm in favor of doing it soon - and repeat if needed ;-) Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform / openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgp5abZvhMvnD.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Bug Day/s Lets Get it going.
Francis Giannaros [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: To the right list this time; this reply-to business will really be the death of me ;) On 6/4/07, Andreas Jaeger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, what needs to be done to get this going (besides announcing a day)? I'm in favor of doing it soon - and repeat if needed ;-) Andreas After speaking quickly to a few people on IRC we're thinking of the weekend on the 16-17 of June. This is only one day after alpha5, but I'm not sure we should wait a whole week later for the next weekend. So, to sum up, the plan would be: * Have one bug day for clearing out old bugs (say, from 10.1) which would be just after alpha5 time. Also encourage users to file enhancement requests for 10.3 at this time, otherwise they may not be implementable later. * Have another bug day after beta1 time (we don't have to think about the date yet) for trying to really concentrate on all 10.3 bugs. * Can take place in #opensuse-bugs. bugbot currently reports all openSUSE bug changes in there, but we'll change it at the time to only report _new_ bugs to get the traffic down. I'm thinking we should only announce a day or two before the bug day, so it's fresh in people's minds :). Do we need to write some policies for this? Or is what we have sufficient? Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform / openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgp8RFbK167b8.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Software Updater - 10.3 Alpha 2
Donn Washburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Software updater seems to be broken. I told it to only get one update file. It has been sitting on Resolving dependencies Alpha2 is two months old - please use Alpha4. Any one else note this behavior. It has been doing this over 2 hours Software updater? opensuse-updater or zen-updater? zen-updater is now obsolete, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpk4T9PfY7aK.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] 10.2 menu.lst after kernel update
Volker Kuhlmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is the 10.2 perl-Bootloader the same as for factory, or is that off topic here? AFAIK it should be basically the same (factory perhaps with a few more fixes). The kernel update produced at last a bootable system (with the exception of having to manually select the correct grub menu entry for booting, or editing menu.lst). Some of the details of the newly added entries are bad though (I left off the irrelevant parts): title openSUSE 10.2 - 2.6.18.8-0.3 root (hd1,4) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.18.8-0.3-default root=/dev/md0 title Failsafe -- openSUSE 10.2 - 2.6.18.8-0.3 root (hd1,4) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.18.8-0.3-default root=/dev/md0 This has been title openSUSE 10.2 root (hd0,4) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.18.8-0.1-default root=/dev/md0 title openSUSE 10.2 (disk 2) root (hd1,4) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.18.8-0.1-default root=/dev/md0 for a very good reason: together with /etc/grub.conf setup --stage2=/boot/grub/stage2 (hd0) (hd0,4) setup --stage2=/boot/grub/stage2 (hd1) (hd1,4) I get a boot loader installed on each of the two disks, so that when one disk gets removed from the raid1, the system still boots. I suggest to file a bug, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpCZMyj4ROAc.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] FYI: Freetype is broken in FACTORY
Andreas Jaeger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: FYI: Current freetype in FACTORY is broken, use the version from Alpha4 instead of updating, The package checked in last night should fix everything, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpErCubwgvjR.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] kernel update brake the boot
jdd [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You are probably already informed :-), but the last 10.2 kernel update brake the computer boot... Did you install the new perl-bootloader as well? If there are problems, please open a bugreport with all details, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpWcHJ0Jk9O6.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] kernel update brake the boot
Marcus Meissner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, May 23, 2007 at 09:45:53AM +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote: jdd [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You are probably already informed :-), but the last 10.2 kernel update brake the computer boot... Did you install the new perl-bootloader as well? If there are problems, please open a bugreport with all details, The new bootloader should have been pulled in automatically due to Prerequires. The perl-Bootloader just still has flaws. Too bad - this means we need a bugreport and another round of testing and fixing :-( Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpyCPurNfnnG.pgp Description: PGP signature
