Re: [opensuse-gnome] Mentoring in the GNOME team

2011-06-28 Thread Vincent Untz
Le samedi 25 juin 2011, à 16:19 -0400, Michael Hill a écrit :
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 4:39 AM, Vincent Untz  wrote:
> > Hey,
> 
> > Le mardi 14 juin 2011, à 20:18 +0200, Vincent Untz a écrit :
> >> So I'm wondering out loud: are there people here who would like help on
> >> starting to contribute?
> >
> > I'd like to discuss this topic in the meeting today.
> >
> > Nelson, Michael, Malcolm, will you be attending?
> 
> Hey Vincent, was this discussed?

As Scott mentioned, this wasn't. I wanted to have a small meeting about
this last week, but I was away from computers.

We can have such a meeting this week, on Thursday 15:30 UTC (usual
meeting time), but I think it makes sense to have a time where you,
Nerlson, Malcolm and Will can be here. So can the four of you be there
at this time on Thursday?

Another solution is to just join on irc whenever you have time and ask
Dominique (DimStar) or me if there's something that can be done quickly
:-)

(It's worth pointing out that Malcolm is already going crazy and doing
many good things!)

Cheers,

Vincent

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] Shell / GTK3 themes - info

2011-06-28 Thread Vincent Untz
Le samedi 25 juin 2011, à 01:14 +0100, Nelson Marques a écrit :
> Hi good people,
> 
> As discussed on previously gnome meeting I volunteered myself to find
> someone willing to desing/work on an alternative theme we could use for
> openSUSE.
> 
> I've traded a few messages with '0rAX0' an artist I've found at Deviant
> Art, and he's willing to help us out and cooperate with us to improve
> and maintain shell themes.
> 
> I don't know what's Vincent's ideas towards the mentorship program, but
> I think we have a potential candidate here.

Nice! I guess that mentorship here will really depend on what 0rAX0 will
want to work on :-)

Cheers,

Vincent

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] GNOME LiveCD and Installer

2011-06-28 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mardi 21 juin 2011, à 15:29 +0200, Frederic Crozat a écrit :
> Le mardi 21 juin 2011 à 15:01 +0200, Andreas Jaeger a écrit :
> > I can right now start the liven installer from the GNOME 12.1 LiveCD - but 
> > I 
> > need to know how to invoke it.
> 
> One solution could be to start a "welcome" screen once GNOME is started
> (only in Live mode) explaining how to install the image (and maybe with
> a 1 click button to start install).

What about putting the installer as the first favorite application?
That kind of makes sense to me.

(won't work with the fallback mode, though -- we can add an icon in the
panel for that there)

Cheers,

Vincent

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] GNOME LiveCD and Installer

2011-06-28 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mardi 28 juin 2011, à 16:30 +0200, Vincent Untz a écrit :
> Le mardi 21 juin 2011, à 15:29 +0200, Frederic Crozat a écrit :
> > Le mardi 21 juin 2011 à 15:01 +0200, Andreas Jaeger a écrit :
> > > I can right now start the liven installer from the GNOME 12.1 LiveCD - 
> > > but I 
> > > need to know how to invoke it.
> > 
> > One solution could be to start a "welcome" screen once GNOME is started
> > (only in Live mode) explaining how to install the image (and maybe with
> > a 1 click button to start install).
> 
> What about putting the installer as the first favorite application?
> That kind of makes sense to me.
> 
> (won't work with the fallback mode, though -- we can add an icon in the
> panel for that there)

I filed https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=702671 to make sure
the issue will get fixed.

Vincent

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[opensuse-gnome] Updated osc collab wiki page

2011-06-28 Thread Vincent Untz
Hey there,

After Malcolm pushed him a bit, Nelson moved the osc collab wiki page to
the new wiki: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Osc_Collab

(I updated it to say "osc collab" instead of "osc gnome" everywhere
;-))

This is some useful doc if you want to start collab -- which really
makes your life easier!

Cheers,

Vincent

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] Updated osc collab wiki page

2011-06-28 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mardi 28 juin 2011, à 10:44 -0500, Malcolm a écrit :
> On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 16:36:38 +0200
> It certainly does!! don't forget to add in quilt (maybe needs to be
> added to the Requires?)

Good point. I'll add a Recommends to the package.

Vincent

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] 11.4 Nautilus Issues

2011-06-29 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mardi 28 juin 2011, à 22:06 -0300, Marco Calistri a écrit :
> 2) If Nautilus is already opened (I.E. for burning a DVD) then you
> cannot open a new session from Gnome 3 Activity-Bar until previous Nautilus 
> process
> completed.

Did you try to right-click and choose "New window"?

Vincent

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Last chance to block dropping of some packages (was Re: [opensuse-gnome] Recently dropped / to-be-dropped packages)

2011-06-29 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi,

Please read the mail carefully, else you won't be allowed to complain
later on ;-)

A while ago I wrote the following (and there's new stuff afterwards):

Le jeudi 09 juin 2011, à 11:27 +0200, Vincent Untz a écrit :
> Things we will possibly drop in the near future:
> 
>  - packages depending on libpanel-applet-2 (GNOME 2.x applets), that
>will not get ported to GNOME 3.
[...]
>And maybe:
>. contact-lookup-applet (depending on upstream)
>. drapes (upstream looks dead, so not going to be ported?)
>. gnome-main-menu (if not ported)
>. gnome-netstatus (depending on upstream)
> 
>  - maybe gnome-pilot-conduits: we need to check with upstream if it's
>still useful, but it needs gnome-pilot 2.x right now. A simple mail
>to upstream maintainer would do.
> 
>  - maybe pino: doesn't build, current branch is dead upstream and
>there's a preliminary new branch but it's in alpha, and doesn't look
>very active.

Unless someone complains before the end of the week, we will drop those
packages. It's a bit difficult to decide with pino, but there's no
release of the new branch and unless someone steps up to actively look
at what upstream is doing, it's simpler to drop it.

On top of that, the following packages will be dropped too:

 - gnome-pilot: upstream doesn't have a lot of time to give a lot of
   love to the code and, well, I'm really unsure we have many users
   using this kind of old hardware.

 - gok: this is the old on-screen keyboard, working with the old
   accessibility stack. A new one is coming for gnome-shell, and caribou
   is recommended for fallback mode.

Cheers,

Vincent

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Re: Last chance to block dropping of some packages (was Re: [opensuse-gnome] Recently dropped / to-be-dropped packages)

2011-06-29 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mercredi 29 juin 2011, à 15:53 +0200, Carlos E. R. a écrit :
> On 2011-06-29 11:20, Vincent Untz wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Please read the mail carefully, else you won't be allowed to complain
> > later on ;-)
> 
> 
> >>. gnome-main-menu (if not ported)
> 
> I (and others) use this a lot (the traditional main menu).

Right now, there is absolutely nobody investing time to port it to GNOME
3, so unless someone steps up, there's nothing we can do to keep it.

(I'm willing to help someone who wants to do the port, though)

Vincent

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] Mentoring in the GNOME team

2011-07-03 Thread Vincent Untz
Le jeudi 30 juin 2011, à 12:26 -0400, Michael Hill a écrit :
> Hi Damien,
> 
> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Damien Radtke  wrote:
> 
> > Hey, any chance I could get in on the mentoring idea? I'm fairly new to
> > Linux/openSUSE development, but would definitely be interested in helping
> > out where I can.
> 
> I think we just need to show up on IRC and volunteer.

Right now, this is the easiest solution: just join #opensuse-gnome on
freenode, and ping DimStar or me.

If irc doesn't work for someone, we can find other ways to involve you,
don't worry :-)

Cheers,

Vincent

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[opensuse-gnome] Default theme for 12.1: back to upstream for now

2011-07-07 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi all,

I just changed packages in G:F so that by default, the theme we use is
upstream's. This means the adwaita gtk+ and window themes, and the gnome
icon theme.

This was done because it simply reflects what we have today: this is the
only reasonable theme we can ship at the moment. If we want to change
this, we'll have to get a nice theme working on gtk+ 2 as well as gtk+
3.

Cheers,

Vincent

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[opensuse-gnome] Default gnome-panel layout for 12.1

2011-07-07 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi,

In the fallback mode (and maybe the "GNOME 2 Look and Feel" session that
Nelson wanted to work on), we currently ship the upstream default
layout. This is largely different from what we used to ship before, with
gnome-main-menu.

I don't know if we want to change this for 12.1, and opinions are
welcome.

A few things that might be important in the discussion:
 + with the default layout, the fallback mode is (or tries to be) close
   to the gnome-shell look and feel. So changing the default layout
   might result in some inconsistency when people have to use the
   fallback mode
 + gnome-main-menu is not ported to GNOME 3 technologies yet. So unless
   someone does the job, we can't use it.

Cheers,

Vincent

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[opensuse-gnome] RFC: Update of GNOME patterns

2011-07-07 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi,

One last step we need to complete to finish the GNOME 3 integration is
to update the patterns so that the LiveCD, the DVD and default installs
get the right stuff.

I've attached a patch to
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=703419
and now is your last chance to comment :-)

Here's a summary of the changes:

  - replace f-spot (recommended) with shotwell, as discussed within the
team; keep f-spot as suggested

  - add new required packages: gnome-session-default-session,
gnome-session-fallback-session
=> they define the GNOME sessions, and bring required components

  - complete list of recommended branding packages:
gdm-branding-openSUSE, gio-branding-openSUSE,
gnome-panel-branding-openSUSE, gtk3-branding-openSUSE,
libsocialweb-branding-openSUSE

  - add new recommended packages: aisleriot, at-spi2-core,
gnome-tweak-tool, sushi
=> aisleriot was split from gnome-games
=> at-spi2-core is the new accessibility stack
=> gnome-tweak-tool is useful to most people
=> sushi is a nice previewer

  - move recommended (or required) packages to suggested as they're not
as useful in GNOME 3: dasher, gconf-editor, gnome-applets, gnome-do,
gnome-main-menu, gnome-media, gtk2-engines, hamster-applet, paprefs,
pavucontrol

  - remove recommended packages related to theming:
gtk2-metatheme-sonar, fifth-leg-font, gtk2-engine-murrine
=> we changed the default theme, and the branding packages will
   bring the right theming-related packages anyway

  - keep gnome-applets recommended in the optional patterns (for DVD)

  - remove mentions of GNOME 2 packages, that are not useful anymore:
at-spi, gnome-mag, gnome-themes, libgail-gnome

  - add new suggested packages: evolution-exchange, evolution-groupwise,
frogr, grisbi, mangler, nautilus-actions, pinpoint, smuxi, synapse,
the-board

  - rename packages, following changes: evolution-tracker to
tracker-miner-evolution, glade3 to glade

  - remove mentions of removed packages: deskbar-applet,
glib2-branding-openSUSE, gnome-docker, gnome-speech-devel

  - remove pinentry-gtk2: I'm not even sure why we have that

  - remove explicit mentions of packages that will be brought in:
gnome-desktop, gtk2, metacity

Vincent

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[opensuse-gnome] GNOME Status in Factory

2011-07-08 Thread Vincent Untz
Hey,

Just a quick status mail:

 - GNOME 3.1.3 is in G:F and seems to work fine
 - some more GNOME 3 integration work occurred in G:F too (including
   moving branding to gsettings, from gconf, as well as hardening
   dependencies to make sure that everything you need for the session
   gets installed)
 - hopefully, my fix to show the installer on the livecd in gnome-shell
   (in G:F) works, we'll know soon
 - all this has been pushed to Factory last night
 - I'll push my change to patterns once our Factory push is accepted

We still have bugs left regarding GNOME 3 integration (you can check in
bugzilla). Some are packaging-related, some requires coding (Gary has
been helping there, that's great!). More hands are always welcome :-)

Alternatively, we still can find easy tasks to work with, if people want
to get mentored to start contributing. Just join #opensuse-gnome and
ping DimStar or me :-)

Cheers,

Vincent

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] RFC: Update of GNOME patterns

2011-07-08 Thread Vincent Untz
Le jeudi 07 juillet 2011, à 19:07 +0200, Vincent Untz a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> One last step we need to complete to finish the GNOME 3 integration is
> to update the patterns so that the LiveCD, the DVD and default installs
> get the right stuff.
> 
> I've attached a patch to
> https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=703419
> and now is your last chance to comment :-)
> 
> Here's a summary of the changes:

I've pushed the changes, since coolo prefers to see results as soon as
possible. But that doesn't mean feedback is not welcome: we can easily
revert part of this if needed.

Also, Sankar convinced me that we can move tasque from Recommends to
Suggested (ie, not installed by default), and I pushed this too.

Cheers,

Vincent

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] RFC: Update of GNOME patterns

2011-07-09 Thread Vincent Untz
Le vendredi 08 juillet 2011, à 13:27 -0500, Federico Mena Quintero a écrit :
> I think we should update to GTK+ 2.24 for apps that use GTK2 - among
> other things, it has the migration code from ~/.recently-used.xbel to
> $(XDG_DATA_HOME)/recently-used.xbel.

We already have GTK+ 2.24 in Factory :-)

Vincent

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] Default gnome-panel layout for 12.1

2011-07-09 Thread Vincent Untz
Le vendredi 08 juillet 2011, à 18:55 +, Nelson Marques a écrit :
> One thing that looks odd is the integration of the panel itself with
> the GTK theme, it makes really no sense... but without willingness to
> hack code [...]

Can you elaborate? And you shouldn't need to change code for panel
theming, btw.

Vincent

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[opensuse-gnome] Anyone willing to do a gnome-games update for 11.4?

2011-07-12 Thread Vincent Untz
Hey,

There's a crash in glchess in 11.4 that is reported quite a lot
upstream:
 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=629125#c104

The patch is:
 
http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-games/commit/?h=gnome-2-32&id=6e2d87e53fe5b51f7d95ffee2b6c357865e0ef47

Could anyone submit a small gnome-games maintenance update for this?

Thanks to Akhil for noticing this.

Vincent

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] Banshee in GNOME:Apps

2011-07-17 Thread Vincent Untz
Le jeudi 14 juillet 2011, à 22:12 +0100, Nelson Marques a écrit :
> 1. notify-sharp - This package needs to be patched to use dbus-sharp
> and dbus-sharp-glib, I've done this already and it's on Mono and
> Mono:Factory.
> - Vincent, can you file a change devel request from
> GNOME:Apps/notify-sharp to Mono:Factory/notify-sharp? We have the
> updated package already prepared. Talked with Stephen, it's ok that we
> hold that package.

Done: 76369

FWIW, I've noticed we also have gsf-sharp and log4net in GNOME:Factory,
which are mono packages. Do you want to move them too? (note that
gsf-sharp seems to not be used anymore, so we could drop it instead)

> - Stephen, any news with upstream to see if we can get that patch
> upstreamed (or if that package is even maintained upstream?)?
> 
> 2. I've submitted Banshee 2.1.0 to GNOME:Apps. Feel free to take
> action, furthermore, do you also want to host
> banshee-community-extensions on GNOME:Apps? Let me know so I can
> submit it. With dbus-sharp and dbus-sharp-glib on oS:Factory, we're
> cool, but would be neat we could handle 1. first so that we have it
> all running cool.

Yes, please submit the extensions too.

Cheers,

Vincent

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] zypper dup leftovers?

2011-07-17 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi,

The summary, for those not willing to read details below, is that we
still have to ship parts of the GNOME 2 stack for some apps that need
it; they're not leftovers.

Le mercredi 13 juillet 2011, à 00:14 +0200, Gerald Pfeifer a écrit :
>   gnome-audio-2.22.2-35.2.noarch
>   gnome-desktop2-2.32.1-10.2.x86_64
>   gnome-desktop2-lang-2.32.1-10.2.noarch
> 
> Suspicous version numbers reminding me of older GNOME releases?

gnome-audio just never got another release, and I was wondering if we
should drop it.

gnome-desktop2 is just the 2.x branch of gnome-desktop, that is kept
because some packages need the library.

>   gnome-js-common-0.1.2-4.2.x86_64
>   gnome-mag-0.16.3-8.1.x86_64
>   gnome-main-menu-0.9.15-15.1.x86_64
> 
> Not sure about these.

gnome-js-common is fine.
gnome-mag is now removed, but we have nothing that obsoletes it. It's
unclear what should do that. Any proposal?
gnome-main-menu is "fine": that's the right version, but we might drop
it soon if nobody ports it to GNOME 3 technologies.

>   gnome-media-2.91.2-1.1.x86_64
>   gnome-media-lang-2.91.2-1.1.noarch
> 
> Leftovers from pre-GNOME 3?  Removing this also wants to remove
> gnome-applets, but I guess this is okay?

That's the last release of gnome-media (with gnome-sound-recorder, which
is nice). The dependency in gnome-applets is wrong now, I'll fix it.

>   gnome-panel-applet-tracker-0.11.0-4.1.x86_64
>   gnome-pty-helper-0.28.1-2.1.x86_64
> 
> Not sure.

They're fine.

>   gnome-python-desktop-2.32.0-10.4.x86_64
> 
> Older GNOME release?

Python bindings for some GNOME 2 libraries. Needed for some packages.
You can try to remove it to see if you need it.

>   gnome-speech-0.4.25-11.1.x86_64
>   gnome-vfs2-2.24.4-4.2.x86_64
>   gnome-vfs2-32bit-2.24.4-4.2.x86_64
>   gnome-web-photo-0.10.2-2.1.x86_64
>   libgail-gnome-1.20.4-2.1.x86_64
>   libgnome-desktop-2-17-2.32.1-10.2.x86_64
> 
> Not sure.

gnome-speech: nothing obsoleting it. Same issue as gnome-mag. Maybe
speech-dispatcher should obsolete it.
gnome-vfs2: fine.
gnome-web-photo: fine.
libgail-gnome: fine, but you can remove it.
libgnome-desktop-2-17: see gnome-desktop2 comment above.

>   libgnome-2.32.1-2.2.x86_64
>   libgnome-32bit-2.32.1-2.2.x86_64
>   libgnome-lang-2.32.1-2.2.noarch
>   libgnome-window-settings1-2.32.1-10.2.x86_64
> 
> Older GNOME release?

libgnome: fine, there's no later release. You might not need it anymore,
though, depending on what package is installed.
libgnome-window-settings1: doesn't exist anymore, and since it's using
slpp, we don't do Obsoletes for that.

>   libgnomeprintui-2.18.6-6.2.x86_64
>   libgnomeprintui-lang-2.18.6-6.2.noarch
>   libgnomesu-1.0.0-336.1.x86_64
>   libgnomesu-lang-1.0.0-336.1.noarch
>   libgnomesu0-1.0.0-336.1.x86_64
>   libgnomeui-2.24.5-2.2.x86_64
>   libproxy0-gnome-32bit-0.2.3-8.6.x86_64
>   libxine1-gnome-vfs-1.1.19-6.5.x86_64
>   mozilla-xulrunner20-gnome-2.0.1-4.1.x86_64
>   python-gnome-2.28.1-11.2.x86_64
>   python-gnomecanvas-2.28.1-11.2.x86_64
>   python-gnomedesktop-2.32.0-10.4.x86_64
>   python-gnomekeyring-2.32.0-10.4.x86_64
>   python-gnomeprint-2.32.0-10.4.x86_64
>   python-gnomevfs-2.28.1-11.2.x86_64
> 
> Mixture of "not sure" and me wondering whether the 2.32 refers to
> the latest GNOME 2 release?

libgnomeprintui: fine, but you can likely remove it.
libgnomesu: fine, but we want to replace it.
libgnomeui: fine, see libgnome above.
libproxy0-gnome: probably not obsoleted because of slpp rule?
libxine1-gnome-vfs: no idea
mozilla-xulrunner20-gnome: fine, I think.
python-*: same as python-gnome-desktop above.

Cheers,

Vincent

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] zypper dup leftovers?

2011-07-18 Thread Vincent Untz
Le lundi 18 juillet 2011, à 09:43 +0200, Dominique Leuenberger a écrit :
> Hi All,
> 
> On Mon, 2011-07-18 at 08:51 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: 
> > libgnome: fine, there's no later release. You might not need it anymore,
> > though, depending on what package is installed.
> > libgnome-window-settings1: doesn't exist anymore, and since it's using
> > slpp, we don't do Obsoletes for that.
> > 
> 
> The part with SLPP is correct, but wasn't zypper dup supposed to remove
> packages that no longer exist in any repository while doing a 'dup'? I
> do remember this used to be the case.

Only if the package is obsoleted, I believe. And we can cheat for that
with some files in /etc/products.d/ (this is how it's handled on distro
upgrades, I assume).

Vincent

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] Testing of updated gnome-games for 2.32

2011-07-25 Thread Vincent Untz
Le vendredi 22 juillet 2011, à 11:24 +0530, Akhil Laddha a écrit :
> On Thu, 2011-07-21 at 14:21 +0100, Andrew Wafaa wrote:
> > Aloha my fellow garden guardians,
> > 
> > I need a little bit of help from non GNOME3 users if possible, please?
> > I have patched gnome-games as requested by vuntz but I can't test it
> > and as such I can't submit it to be pushed out via the normal update
> > channels.
> 
> Sorry but this doesn't fix the crash for me. I have updated glchess
> packages from test repository and i still get crash when starting chess
> in 3D view.
> 
> Please let me know if you need any further details. 

Is it the same stack trace? Is setPiecesStyle() in the python code that
gets installed with the new glchess?

Cheers,

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] YaST's gtk interface now in gtk3

2011-07-25 Thread Vincent Untz
Le dimanche 24 juillet 2011, à 16:58 +0530, Atri Bhattacharya a écrit :
> Hi!
> 
> There's good news for the upcoming 12.1 release from the perspective of
> the users of YaST's gtk interface (the default YaST interface on GNOME)
> -- the port of the interface to gtk3 is now complete and will hit the
> factory shelves soon, thanks to Duncan (dmacvicar) and Ricardo Cruz who
> made it happen. This ensures its perfect integration into the GNOME 3
> desktop that debuts (in openSUSE land) with 12.1.

That's pretty cool, I'm sure this will be a nice improvements.

Now, we simply need to port yast2-control-center-gnome too :-) I'll see
if we can abuse the gnome-control-center shell for that.

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] Testing of updated gnome-games for 2.32

2011-07-25 Thread Vincent Untz
Le vendredi 22 juillet 2011, à 11:24 +0530, Akhil Laddha a écrit :
> On Thu, 2011-07-21 at 14:21 +0100, Andrew Wafaa wrote:
> > Aloha my fellow garden guardians,
> > 
> > I need a little bit of help from non GNOME3 users if possible, please?
> > I have patched gnome-games as requested by vuntz but I can't test it
> > and as such I can't submit it to be pushed out via the normal update
> > channels.
> 
> Sorry but this doesn't fix the crash for me. I have updated glchess
> packages from test repository and i still get crash when starting chess
> in 3D view.

I investigated, and found the issue: Andrew, please replace the tabs
with four spaces ("") in your patch :-)

With the tabs, the issue is that the new function is local to another
function...

Vincent

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] YaST's gtk interface now in gtk3

2011-07-25 Thread Vincent Untz
Le lundi 25 juillet 2011, à 09:52 +0200, Vincent Untz a écrit :
> Now, we simply need to port yast2-control-center-gnome too :-) I'll see
> if we can abuse the gnome-control-center shell for that.

I've forked the gnome-control-center code to abuse it for the yast shell
too. It's in svn now, and I'll submit my package soon.

It simply works like the gnome-control-center shell. I'm unsure if we
want to keep single-click to activate yast modules, or if we want to
lose some consistency with the g-c-c shell, and force double-click...

You can test the svn code with those commands:
  sudo zypper in yast2-devtools
  svn co http://svn.opensuse.org/svn/yast/trunk/control-center-gnome/
  cd control-center-gnome
  ./autogen.sh && ./configure --prefix=/tmp/yast-test
  make && make install
  /tmp/yast-test/bin/y2controlcenter-gnome

My package will be in home:vuntz:branches:YaST:Head soon (but might
disappear once it gets accepted in YaST:Head).

Cheers,

Vincent

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] Gnome:Factory opensuse 11.3 buildtarget

2011-09-06 Thread Vincent Untz
Le dimanche 04 septembre 2011, à 09:32 +0200, Bjørn Lie a écrit :
> Can we pretty please remove 11.3 as a buildtarget from G:F?
> 
> Every time i branch a package from GF I end up with that repo being
> enabled.
> 
> I can of course work around it by keeping my gf branch alive between
> builds, but i tend to clean up my branches as often as possible.
> 
> I highly doubt there are anyone left using 11.3 + Gnome:factory at
> present time.

I can't remove that myself, as many branches are using the 11.3
repository. I'll ask an admin.

Vincent

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] GNOME:Factory at 3.1.5

2011-09-06 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mardi 06 septembre 2011, à 12:19 -0400, Michael Hill a écrit :
> On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Michael Hill  wrote:
> > On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 4:09 AM, Frederic Crozat  wrote:
> >
> >> nvidia proprietary driver doesn't support modesetting. I think you have
> >> nouveau and nvidia proprietary driver stepping on each other toes..
> >
> > Video now works -- the nouveau issue was a version mismatch from the
> > jobermayr Factory repo, fixed by downloading the correct RPM for my
> > kernel in Epiphany, saying yes I want to install and accepting the
> > dependency.
> >
> > GNOME Factory looks great!  I'll play with it for a while.
> >
> > Next issue:  NetworkManager 0.9.0-112.1 fails to start, so I switched
> > back to manual configuration with YaST.
> 
> Milestone 5 has stabilized on my desktop system, except:
> 
> - Epiphany segfaults on launch
> 
> - I haven't tested NetworkManager since I switched away from it (I
> will try it again tonight).

FWIW, GNOME:Factory now has a mix of GNOME 3.1.90 and 3.1.91, with most
of 3.1.91 landing very soon (also, gnome-control-center and gdm are
still from 3.1.5, but I'll get that fixed soon).

And there are quite some changes in 3.1.90 :-)

Cheers,

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[opensuse-gnome] Warning: gdm broken in GNOME:Factory

2011-09-07 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi,

The gdm update to 3.1.90 isn't perfect yet, so if you update gdm from
GNOME:Factory, be aware that you will likely not be able to connect ;-)

Fix coming soon.

Vincent

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] Warning: gdm broken in GNOME:Factory

2011-09-07 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mercredi 07 septembre 2011, à 12:43 +0200, Vincent Untz a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> The gdm update to 3.1.90 isn't perfect yet, so if you update gdm from
> GNOME:Factory, be aware that you will likely not be able to connect ;-)
> 
> Fix coming soon.

This should be okay now (it took a while for the build to finish).

There is still an issue where the keyring is not unlocked on login, but
at least, it's not blocking people from using the computer :-)

Vincent

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[opensuse-gnome] Quick status update

2011-09-08 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi all,

Here's a very brief update of how things are :-)

 - GNOME 3.1.91 is in GNOME:Factory (except for gnome-user-docs, but
   that's a detail; and upstream tarballs that are late)

 - a lot of build issues that were in G:F/G:A are solved; but we still
   have a few of them in G:A (help welcome!). They're mostly related to
   missing libraries when linking.

 - I'm pushing G:A and G:F to Factory right now. The only things I'm not
   pushing are gdm and gnome-shell (as well as mutter) as I know of at
   least one blocker in gdm, and gnome-shell requires the new gdm (and
   might have issues too, according to a bug report and some comments on
   irc). I've decided to push now for several reasons:

 a) we've accumulated 2-3 weeks of changes, so it's time to push
 b) if we don't push now, it will be after the conference, which is
really late
 c) I would have preferred to fix gdm & gnome-shell first, but I'm
short in time before the conference, and I've been debugging
this for too long already :/

This means we will have most of 3.1.91 in Factory soon, hopefully, and
this should mostly work fine.

Cheers,

Vincent

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] Live/dvd software pattern

2011-09-08 Thread Vincent Untz
Le jeudi 08 septembre 2011, à 17:38 +0200, Bjørn Lie a écrit :
> I just booted the M5 livecd of gnome, and to my suprise the full compiz
> stack including simple-ccsm was included?
> Should that be removed from that packagelist? Since it's not usable in
> Gnome now? 
> 
> I'm not advocating dropping them completely, but removing them from the
> default app list in the gnome patterns.

Makes sense. Any objection from anyone?

Vincent

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] Quick status update

2011-09-09 Thread Vincent Untz
Le jeudi 08 septembre 2011, à 09:33 +0200, Vincent Untz a écrit :
>  c) I would have preferred to fix gdm & gnome-shell first, but I'm
> short in time before the conference, and I've been debugging
> this for too long already :/

I found the issues, so I'll push those two to Factory.

Stephen: I'm unsure if that will fix your issues. You need a new
gnome-session and a new gnome-keyring-pam, with a change entry from
today, to have my two fixes. Tell me if you still have issues.

Vincent

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] Sonar gtk3

2011-09-13 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi,

Le mardi 13 septembre 2011, à 22:37 +0400, Kirill Kirillov a écrit :
> Hi!
> 
> I like the openSUSE Sonar gtk2 theme very much and one of the reasons
> why I dislike GNOME 3 is different look for gtk2 and gtk3 applications.
> 
> Is it possible to make Sonar gtk3 theme [1] the default one for openSUSE
> 12.1 to make transition from GNOME 2 to GNOME 3 more smooth?
> 
> [1] http://half-left.deviantart.com/art/Sonar-GTK3-254801661

I've submitted a package to GNOME:Factory. But after a quick try, there
are several glitches in the theme that would need to get fixed before we
can consider using Sonar by default.

(FWIW, this was one of the points we discussed at the GNOME 3 BoF today,
at the conference)

Cheers,

Vincent

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] Live/dvd software pattern

2011-09-13 Thread Vincent Untz
Le jeudi 08 septembre 2011, à 17:59 +0200, Vincent Untz a écrit :
> Le jeudi 08 septembre 2011, à 17:38 +0200, Bjørn Lie a écrit :
> > I just booted the M5 livecd of gnome, and to my suprise the full compiz
> > stack including simple-ccsm was included?
> > Should that be removed from that packagelist? Since it's not usable in
> > Gnome now? 
> > 
> > I'm not advocating dropping them completely, but removing them from the
> > default app list in the gnome patterns.
> 
> Makes sense. Any objection from anyone?

This should hopefully be done now. We should check when the next batch
of livecds are generated.

Vincent

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] GNOME fallback mode - how to debug?

2011-09-17 Thread Vincent Untz
Le samedi 17 septembre 2011, à 22:07 +0200, Andreas Jaeger a écrit :
> I updated my laptop to current factory and started GNOME - and only
> got a box telling me that the default does not work and fallback
> mode was selected.
> 
> I've been running compiz on the machine, so why is now fallback mode selected?
> 
> Any ideas or URLs on how to debug this? A google search was not
> successfull ;-(

Try running /usr/lib/gnome-session-check-accelerated (or
/usr/lib/gnome-session-check-accelerated-helper, I forgot which one does
the hard work) from a terminal, and look at the output.

Cheers,

Vincent

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] Remove Tracker in 12.1?

2011-09-19 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi,

Le lundi 19 septembre 2011, à 10:50 +0100, Richard Brown a écrit :
> Hi All,
> 
> 
> Along the same vein as the decision to include Shotwell by default,I
> would like to propose the removal of Tracker from the default GNOME
> installation pattern in 12.1
> 
> Unlike previous versions, tracker is no longer well integrated into
> GNOME - it is not used by the gnome-shell search which largely
> replaces the SLAB search from our G2.
> 
> Desktop indexers also do not appear to be as popular as they once were
> (Google Desktop is being pulled, etc)
> 
> Desktop indexers can be horrific drains on performance, I think if we
> remove tracker from our default 12.1 install any newcomers will be
> pleasantly surprised at the performance improvements
> 
> Of course, I'd still like it in the repositories - so people can
> install if they want and upgraders can keep their tracker
> functionality
> 
> Thoughts?

Actually, GNOME is moving towards using more of tracker :-) There's
gnome-documents (which is only in my branch), which is what GNOME will
push hard to help people find their documents. And it's based on
tracker.

Cheers,

Vincent

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] Sonar gtk3

2011-09-19 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mercredi 14 septembre 2011, à 03:20 +0400, Kirill Kirillov a écrit :
> Hi!
> 
> В Втр, 13/09/2011 в 22:37 +0200, Vincent Untz пишет: 
> > > Is it possible to make Sonar gtk3 theme [1] the default one for openSUSE
> > > 12.1 to make transition from GNOME 2 to GNOME 3 more smooth?
> > > 
> > > [1] http://half-left.deviantart.com/art/Sonar-GTK3-254801661
> > 
> > I've submitted a package to GNOME:Factory. But after a quick try, there
> > are several glitches in the theme that would need to get fixed before we
> > can consider using Sonar by default.
> 
> I've asked the author on deviantART if he could fix some glitches and
> support gtk3 theme to make it openSUSE default and his answer was:
> 
> > Sure it's GPL. What glitches specifically?
> 
> So, could you please send him a description of glitches?

I'd need to reinstall it and take a screenshot. Or anybody else can do
it :-) Just install the package (available from
home:vuntz:branches:GNOME:Factory) and start nautilus.

> > (FWIW, this was one of the points we discussed at the GNOME 3 BoF today,
> > at the conference)
> Are you going to write some report about this, please?

Yes, will send the quick notes right now.

Cheers,

Vincent

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[opensuse-gnome] Notes from GNOME 3 BoF at openSUSE Conference

2011-09-19 Thread Vincent Untz
Hey,

So we had a BoF at the openSUSE Conference about the GNOME 3
integration. We had some nice discussion, with a few points. Here's the
quick summary.

Cheers,

Vincent


Theming:
 - we're waiting for the default background from the artwork team
 - a few people suggested using the sonar theme by default (since
   there's a GTK+ 3 port). First tests show that it might not be ready,
   though.
 - Garrett wrote a gnome-shell theme; could be something to investigate.

Potential improvements:
 - Fallback mode should be improved a bit for easier migration
   (gnome-main-menu should really be ported, for instance)
 - Discussion about installing the shutdown/power-off extension by
   default. Current proposal is to have it on non-laptop hardware (since
   suspend is less likely to be used there).
 - Add a yast icon inside gnome-control-center to make the yast shell
   more discoverable.
 - Improve search in overview: most used apps should appear first, and
   having to type 3 characters is a bit annoying (no "f" to start
   firefox)

Bugs:
 - Fallback mode is apparently not detected in VNC.

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[opensuse-gnome] Warning: GDM broken in GNOME:Factory

2011-09-22 Thread Vincent Untz
Hey,

GDM is apparently broken in GNOME:Factory right now: there's no way to
enter your password. It's fun, but doesn't help you use your computer.

For now, I advise you to either not upgrade gdm from GNOME:Factory (or
downgrade to the version in Factory), or to use autologin (the
DISPLAYMANAGER_AUTOLOGIN key in /etc/sysconfig/displaymanager).

I doubt I'll be able to fix this tomorrow, so people are welcome to step
up to debug that. My quick guess is that this commit is the issue:
 
http://git.gnome.org/browse/gdm/commit/?id=f91f017071ffa5f5999e6c2e2c0929e290482932

It should be easy to test by adding a patch to revert this change.

Cheers,

Vincent

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] Banshee & default radios

2011-09-26 Thread Vincent Untz
Le vendredi 23 septembre 2011, à 16:09 +0100, Nelson Marques a écrit :
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm not sure if people are aware but Banshee 2.2.0 reads
> %{_datadir}/banshee/stations for XSPF files to load default radio
> stations. Ok I failed because I havne't checked if any is provided by
> default, but...
> 
> ... if Marketing, or any other is interested ... either to promote
> media partners or any other reason and if there's no legal issues, we
> can for sure provide a few open source friendly radio stations, maybe
> get them upstreamed as well for default installs...
> 
> So if anyone has cool ideas to use this cool feature in favor of
> openSUSE, I'm all in favor or using it...

I feel we should simply put some cool radios, but it's something that
we'd need to keep remembering to update in the long term.

If anyone wants to step up, let's do it!

Vincent

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] gnome-utils

2011-09-26 Thread Vincent Untz
Le vendredi 23 septembre 2011, à 18:24 +0100, Nelson Marques a écrit :
> Anyway we can have gnome-utils installed by the default GNOME pattern? Why ?

It should be installed by default already: it's in the pattern. Maybe it
wasn't the case earlier because the package was not installable?

Vincent

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] Warning: GDM broken in GNOME:Factory

2011-09-26 Thread Vincent Untz
Le vendredi 23 septembre 2011, à 08:56 +0200, Dominique Leuenberger a écrit :
> On Fri, 2011-09-23 at 00:49 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: 
> > Hey,
> > 
> > GDM is apparently broken in GNOME:Factory right now: there's no way to
> > enter your password. It's fun, but doesn't help you use your computer.
> > 
> > For now, I advise you to either not upgrade gdm from GNOME:Factory (or
> > downgrade to the version in Factory), or to use autologin (the
> > DISPLAYMANAGER_AUTOLOGIN key in /etc/sysconfig/displaymanager).
> > 
> > I doubt I'll be able to fix this tomorrow, so people are welcome to step
> > up to debug that. My quick guess is that this commit is the issue:
> >  
> > http://git.gnome.org/browse/gdm/commit/?id=f91f017071ffa5f5999e6c2e2c0929e290482932
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> As Vincent won't have time and I'm back from my partying, I created a
> package with the commit pointed out by vuntz reverted.
> 
> The package should shortly appear in my branch repo:
> http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/dimstar:/branches:/GNOME:/Factory/openSUSE_Factory/
> 
> And of course, it is absolutely untested! But if you had the issue
> already, it can only get better, no?

Thanks Dominique, this fixes the issue. I also fixed another issue that
caused xdm to be used, and pushed to Factory.

Cheers,

Vincent

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] Re: [opensuse-artwork] Sonor

2011-09-26 Thread Vincent Untz
Hey,

(I'm not on opensuse-artwork, so I wasn't aware of this discussion and I
guess my mail won't reach the list there :/ -- feel free to forward it)

Le vendredi 23 septembre 2011, à 20:19 +0100, Richard Brown a écrit :
> Hi Again Marcus,
> 
> Probably best you discuss this on opensuse-gnome (cc'd)
> 
> There was discussion at the GNOME 3 session at oSC which decided that it was 
> highly likely we will be using the default theme in 12.1, but perhaps with 
> Sonar-GTK3 packaged as an option
> 
> Since then, half-left, the person behind the Sonar-GTK3 port has got involved 
> and is actively working to get Sonar working satisfactorily on GNOME 3.2. 
> At this stage, my opinion would be that it is possible, though unlikely, that 
> Sonar-GTK3 will be ready enough to be considered to be the default for 12.1. 
> My creation of 'sonar-friendly' versions of my wallpapers was just my small 
> effort to help half-left along.
> 
> AFAIK no "official" decision has been made.
> 
> I don't think the themes available or chosen by default by a DE should be a 
> decision exclusively made by the -artwork team..
> 
> 
> Rich / Ilmehtar
> 
> >>> Marcus Moeller  09/23/11 8:11 PM >>>
> Hi all.
> 
> As we seem to tend to use a blue wallpaper this time, I would like to 
> propose NOT to use Sonar anymore.
> 
> Imho, Sonar was never really beautiful, It's way to dark and has some 
> strange colors.
> 
> I would rather like to stick with the GNOME 3 default theme which is 
> Adwaita. This one is compatible with nearly every design.
> 
> Greets
> Marcus
> 
> PS: I know Vincent likes Sonar a lot, but I think he could also live 
> with Adwaita (listening to his GNOME heart :))

Thanks to Richard for stating the current state on the default theme.
FWIW, here's my summary of the default theme discussion for GNOME:

 - I've been willing to go with Adwaita for a while for various reasons
   (the most important one being that it was designed to work well with
   GNOME 3). But this was just my opinion, and various people wanted to
   see Sonar for GTK+ 3 first.

 - there's now a port of Sonar for GTK+ 3. It currently has issues, but
   the developer is looking at them, so things will likely get better.

 - on a general note, writing a GTK+ theme is not as simple as it might
   look: it has to work perfectly fine with all applications, which is
   often not the case.

 - we'll discuss this default theme topic further once we get the fixed
   Sonar. I have a personal opinion here ("stay on the safe side"), but
   it's not a strong one.

 - in all cases, we should have Sonar packaged -- I've already packaged
   it in my branch, we'll push it once it has a few more fixes.

Richard also raises the point that the default theme should not be
decided by the artwork team only. I'm personally willing to have
that work done by the artwork team, but I think Richard has a point:
both the GNOME and KDE teams likely feel strongly about the default look
and feel of the desktop, and if they don't like the result, they will
have a hard time accepting it :-) So I'd suggest making sure there's
buy-in from the desktop teams.

Cheers,

Vincent

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[opensuse-gnome] Help needed: cleaning up & submitting software-center to Factory

2011-09-26 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi all,

As you might know, we had a GSoC student who worked on porting the
software center used in Ubuntu to openSUSE. There's a package here:
 
https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?package=software-center&project=home%3Aalexeftimie

This needs to be updated to the latest release, and possibly cleaned up
so we can push this to Factory. It's worth pointing out that, since we
do not generate the appstream xml data for openSUSE, it will not just
magically work, but this is something we could fix after 12.1 is
released, with an online update.

Any volunteer for that?

Cheers,

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] yast2-control-center-gnome

2011-09-29 Thread Vincent Untz
Le jeudi 29 septembre 2011, à 04:17 +0100, Nelson Marques a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> I don't use YaST a lot, but when I opened it on GNOME3 the window
> width looks a bit small to me. I do find it somehow more pleasant to
> see a bit bigger window without the icons so much unpacked.
> 
> Something like [1] would make it friendlier at least for me. If
> there's any interest, I would go +1 for it.

We're using the same width as the gnome-control-center shell. I think
being consistent here is a nice thing.

Cheers,

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] GNOME 3.2 for openSUSE 11.4?

2011-09-29 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mercredi 28 septembre 2011, à 16:44 +0200, LisufasGnome3 a écrit :
> Hi GNOME Development Team,
> 
> is scheduled to make GNOME 3.2 is ready for openSUSE 11.4 distributions?

Some people are working on this, so it's likely to happen, yes.

Vincent

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] GNOME:Factory at 3.1.5

2011-09-29 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mardi 27 septembre 2011, à 12:48 -0400, Michael Hill a écrit :
> On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 12:19 PM, Michael Hill  wrote:
> > On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Michael Hill  wrote:
> >> On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 4:09 AM, Frederic Crozat  wrote:
> >>
> >>> nvidia proprietary driver doesn't support modesetting. I think you have
> >>> nouveau and nvidia proprietary driver stepping on each other toes..
> >>
> >> Video now works -- the nouveau issue was a version mismatch from the
> >> jobermayr Factory repo, fixed by downloading the correct RPM for my
> >> kernel in Epiphany, saying yes I want to install and accepting the
> >> dependency.
> >>
> >> GNOME Factory looks great!  I'll play with it for a while.
> >>
> >> Next issue:  NetworkManager 0.9.0-112.1 fails to start, so I switched
> >> back to manual configuration with YaST.
> >
> > Milestone 5 has stabilized on my desktop system, except:
> >
> > - Epiphany segfaults on launch
> 
> Everything is working now, out of the box, with the Build 296 iso.  (I
> too had to install gnome-utils manually.)

Can someone file a bug about gnome-utils missing? Else, we'll forget to
investigate.

> Will 11.4 be updated to GNOME 3.2?

As stated in the mail I just sent, it's likely :-)

Vincent

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[opensuse-gnome] Warning: GNOME broken in Factory

2011-10-05 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi,

Since I just got 3 people reporting the issue on IRC, let me warn
everyone here: GNOME is broken in Factory right now. It's because of the
telepathy-glib version we have in Factory has a bad bug.

A new telepathy-glib is on its way to Factory (already in G:F, although
G:F is not published yet).

Avoid libtelepathy-glib0 0.15.6; try to stay with the old version
(should work, untested) or get the 0.15.7 version (fixes the issue).

Cheers,

Vincent

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[opensuse-gnome] High priority GNOME bugs for 12.1

2011-10-10 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi all,

First, please do not reply to add another bug to this list, unless
you're really 100% sure it belongs there. If everybody just sends
his/her favorite bug, we won't have a short list of bugs that we should
focus on.

I've been looking at our bug reports in the last few days, and here is
what I believe we should really get fixed one way or another:

NetworkManager: broken privilege handling
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=713639
=> clearly a blocker, marked as such. Likely the most annoying bug
   everyone seens right now. There's a known workaround, and Ludwig has
   been proposing patches upstream. But it probably needs more love...

gnome3: battery indicator gives wrong numbers
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=717814
=> this would be a blocker imho. It's really unclear why this is
   happening. Needs debugging; some was done upstream already.
   
http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-shell/commit/?id=9067689839cbf163a2f7ffbf8cb2eeb7b6d90ff7
   might help.

[fallback] Installer icon not visible on GNOME LiveCD
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=702671
=> embarassing one, as people who won't have gnome-shell will have a
   hard time installing openSUSE (installer is in the menu, but it's not
   discoverable). Should get fixed by adding an icon to the top panel
   when running in the live session.

Bluetooth completely broken (at least in GNOME)
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=722722
=> we need at least some patch to avoid crashes, and then we need to
   figure out if things work or not. But things are not looking good on
   my system :/

cheese and totem crash without 3d acceleration
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=716357
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=717136
=> they both use clutter now. They should at least not crash, though,
   and possibly display a small error dialog.

Authentication for color device required before login
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=706908
=> this is related to https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=698250
   (security review of colord). There's a question from the security
   team there, and moving there would help.

gnomesu: GIO_LAUNCHED_DESKTOP_FILE support
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=710459
=> this is what makes yast icons ugly in the overview mode, at least I
   believe so. It should be "just" a matter of forwarding this
   environment variable via gnomesu (and xdg-su) to the yast process.

Add YaSt icon in gnome-control-center shell
(not filed)
=> we would need this to make yast more discoverable


We need people to help fix those bugs. They won't just get magically
solved.

FWIW, I know I'll try to look (again) at those ones soon (but do not
consider I'll fix them, you can help for those too):
 - [fallback] Installer icon not visible on GNOME LiveCD
 - gnome3: battery indicator gives wrong numbers
 - Bluetooth completely broken (at least in GNOME)
 - gnomesu: GIO_LAUNCHED_DESKTOP_FILE support
 - Add YaSt icon in gnome-control-center shell


Cheers,

Vincent

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] 12.1 Gnome shell extensions

2011-10-12 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mercredi 12 octobre 2011, à 09:05 +0100, Carl Fletcher a écrit :
> Is there a known issue with the gnome shell extensions in 12.1 beta1?
> 
> I see
> http://paste.opensuse.org/68584355
> 
> Looking-glass list nothing either

You likely need the latest packages from Factory. The versions in beta1
were too old for gnome-shell.

Vincent

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] High priority GNOME bugs for 12.1

2011-10-13 Thread Vincent Untz
Quick update:

Le lundi 10 octobre 2011, à 09:57 +0200, Vincent Untz a écrit :
> NetworkManager: broken privilege handling
> https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=713639
> => clearly a blocker, marked as such. Likely the most annoying bug
>everyone seens right now. There's a known workaround, and Ludwig has
>been proposing patches upstream. But it probably needs more love...

No news.

> gnome3: battery indicator gives wrong numbers
> https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=717814
> => this would be a blocker imho. It's really unclear why this is
>happening. Needs debugging; some was done upstream already.
>
> http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-shell/commit/?id=9067689839cbf163a2f7ffbf8cb2eeb7b6d90ff7
>might help.

I've been debugging this without much success right now. For some
reason, gnome-shell doesn't receive the dbus signals about power.

> [fallback] Installer icon not visible on GNOME LiveCD
> https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=702671
> => embarassing one, as people who won't have gnome-shell will have a
>hard time installing openSUSE (installer is in the menu, but it's not
>discoverable). Should get fixed by adding an icon to the top panel
>when running in the live session.

Fixed.

> Bluetooth completely broken (at least in GNOME)
> https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=722722
> => we need at least some patch to avoid crashes, and then we need to
>figure out if things work or not. But things are not looking good on
>my system :/

I submitted an improved patch to avoid most crashes; I'm still aware of
a crash (within NetworkManager-gnome). But most importantly, I'm still
not able to send files to my phone (but I can use a bluetooth headset).
I'd appreciate if others could see if things work for them.

> cheese and totem crash without 3d acceleration
> https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=716357
> https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=717136
> => they both use clutter now. They should at least not crash, though,
>and possibly display a small error dialog.

No news.

> Authentication for color device required before login
> https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=706908
> => this is related to https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=698250
>(security review of colord). There's a question from the security
>team there, and moving there would help.

No news.

> gnomesu: GIO_LAUNCHED_DESKTOP_FILE support
> https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=710459
> => this is what makes yast icons ugly in the overview mode, at least I
>believe so. It should be "just" a matter of forwarding this
>environment variable via gnomesu (and xdg-su) to the yast process.

No news.

> Add YaSt icon in gnome-control-center shell
> (not filed)
> => we would need this to make yast more discoverable

Fixed.

Vincent

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] openSUSE 12.1 GNOME Highlights

2011-10-13 Thread Vincent Untz
Le jeudi 13 octobre 2011, à 16:41 +0200, Andreas Jaeger a écrit :
> I'd like to enhance the section at:
> http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Upcoming_features#From_GNOME
> 
> Could you tell me a bit what's so great about GNOME 3.2 - and what we're 
> doing 
> additionally?
> 
> If some of you update the wiki, it would be great - but I can also collect 
> what you write via email,

Sankar mentioned in the GNOME meeting today that he'll work on this.

Cheers,

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] High priority GNOME bugs for 12.1

2011-10-14 Thread Vincent Untz
Le lundi 10 octobre 2011, à 09:57 +0200, Vincent Untz a écrit :
> gnome3: battery indicator gives wrong numbers
> https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=717814
> => this would be a blocker imho. It's really unclear why this is
>happening. Needs debugging; some was done upstream already.
>
> http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-shell/commit/?id=9067689839cbf163a2f7ffbf8cb2eeb7b6d90ff7
>might help.

Gary just found the issue and wrote a one-line fix -- he's my hero of
the month!

Vincent

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[opensuse-gnome] Fwd: Re: [opensuse-factory] Gnome 2

2011-10-19 Thread Vincent Untz
Hey,

People here might be able to test this too :-) It's also important to
double-check that your hardware that isn't blacklisted is still detected
as working for gnome-shell, btw.

Cheers,

Vincent

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Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 08:24:35 +0200
From: Vincent Untz 
To: opensuse-fact...@opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [opensuse-factory] Gnome 2
Mail-Followup-To: opensuse-fact...@opensuse.org

Le mardi 18 octobre 2011, à 23:50 +0200, Stefan Seyfried a écrit :
> On 18.10.2011 09:50, Vincent Untz wrote:
> > Le lundi 17 octobre 2011, à 23:51 +0200, Stefan Seyfried a écrit :
> >> On 17.10.2011 11:06, Vincent Untz wrote:
> >>> Le dimanche 16 octobre 2011, à 13:42 +0200, Stefan Seyfried a écrit :
> >> Having a "GNOME3_fallbackmode" kernel parameter does not seem too bad
> >> for that as it will enable people to actually boot into their desktop
> >> and it can easily found in /proc/cmdline.
> > 
> > I changed my mind yesterday, and I'll likely add support for something
> > like gnome.fallback=0/1.
> 
> Cool. I believe this will be useful.

I'd appreciate testing of the gnome-session-core package from
home:vuntz:branches:GNOME:Factory:
  
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/vuntz:/branches:/GNOME:/Factory/openSUSE_Factory/home:vuntz:branches:GNOME:Factory.repo

This contains support for the gnome.fallback=0/1 argument on the boot
line, as well as blacklisting some hardware with regexps in this file:
 /usr/share/gnome-session/hardware-compatibility

Currently, the Intel 830-865 hardware is blacklisted; it would need to
be tested, though, as I don't have the hardware.

If there's any hardware people think should really be blacklisted, then
I need the output of "glxinfo | grep renderer".

Cheers,

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GNOME 3 in release notes (was Re: [opensuse-gnome] alt-status-menu as default?)

2011-10-21 Thread Vincent Untz
Le vendredi 21 octobre 2011, à 09:50 -0500, Malcolm a écrit :
> On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 15:40:36 +0100
> "Richard Brown"  wrote:
> 
> > >>> Malcolm  10/21/11 3:33 PM >>>
> > >Hi
> > >My vote is for No. Shutdown is still there via the alt key?
> > 
> > My problem with this is, how are users (many of whom will be new to
> > GNOME 3.x) know to press the Alt key?
> > 
> Hi
> We should add a note in the release notes about the 'alt' key, maybe add
> the cheat sheet link?
> https://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/CheatSheet

That's a good idea. FWIW, there's some text about the new GNOME (see
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=708211) but adding this link
would be really a nice improvement.

Can someone file a bug against the Release Notes component?

Cheers,

Vincent

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] alt-status-menu as default?

2011-10-21 Thread Vincent Untz
Le vendredi 21 octobre 2011, à 15:40 +0100, Richard Brown a écrit :
> >>> Malcolm  10/21/11 3:33 PM >>>
> >I guess we need to work out  once the sweettooth plugin system is
> >available, how it would be installed...?
> 
> I agree that sweettooth will change nature of plugins, and when
> sweettooth is available we will have to revisit this one

Just want to mention that we have all the client side bits for
sweettooth installed by default. The only missing bit is the
extensions.gnome.org website, which will certainly go live before 12.2
is released...

Vincent

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] Fwd: Re: [opensuse-factory] Gnome 2

2011-10-24 Thread Vincent Untz
Le samedi 22 octobre 2011, à 15:11 +0200, Bjørn Lie a écrit :
> to., 20.10.2011 kl. 08.26 +0200, skrev Vincent Untz:
> > I'd appreciate testing of the gnome-session-core package from
> > home:vuntz:branches:GNOME:Factory:
> >   
> > http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/vuntz:/branches:/GNOME:/Factory/openSUSE_Factory/home:vuntz:branches:GNOME:Factory.repo
> > 
> > This contains support for the gnome.fallback=0/1 argument on the boot
> > line, as well as blacklisting some hardware with regexps in this file:
> >  /usr/share/gnome-session/hardware-compatibility
> > 
> > Currently, the Intel 830-865 hardware is blacklisted; it would need to
> > be tested, though, as I don't have the hardware.
> > 
> > If there's any hardware people think should really be blacklisted, then
> > I need the output of "glxinfo | grep renderer".
> snip 
> 
> I just tested this in a virtualbox install.
> 
> Seems to do whats advertised, but I HAD to boot with gnome.fallback=0 in
> order to get a "working" gnome-shell.
> Was that intended?

It might just be an issue with virtualbox: I've had recent issues where
sometimes, fallback mode is used in virtualbox.

Are you sure it's related to the gnome-session changes?

Vincent

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] alt-status-menu as default?

2011-10-24 Thread Vincent Untz
Le dimanche 23 octobre 2011, à 16:08 +0530, Atri a écrit :
> I still don't see any strong reason for not having the alt-status-menu
> extension enabled by default. It should be easy to disable extensions
> either by the user himself or even by the extensions.gnome.org website
> when it is launched. Seriously, do we want to be hindered by something
> that neither will be ready by 12.1 release nor even has a definite
> roadmap yet [1]?

Given that it'll go live during the 12.1 lifecyle, we should at least
think about it.

The other thing I'm worried about having an extension by default is that
if we release a maintenance update of gnome-shell, we have to be careful
about testing it with this extension. Sure, it's not a big deal -- but
we need to be aware of that.

I don't have a real strong objection otherwise. I'd like to hear people
who are staying quiet on this -- is this just okay with you, do you not
care, or...?

Vincent

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] alt-status-menu as default?

2011-10-28 Thread Vincent Untz
Le vendredi 21 octobre 2011, à 14:47 +0100, Richard Brown a écrit :
> I therefore propose adding gnome-shell-extension-alt-status-menu to our 
> default patterns

Thanks to Richard, this should now be done.

Cheers,

Vincent

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] Re: kdm-gdmcompat

2011-10-28 Thread Vincent Untz
Le vendredi 28 octobre 2011, à 14:36 +0200, Valerio Mariani a écrit :
> It is still me. I was just chatting with a coworker who told me that
> he thinks that gdm now switch to dbus. Can anyone confirm this?

I just checked, and yes, that's the case.

See the code for gdmflexiserver:
  http://git.gnome.org/browse/gdm/tree/utils/gdmflexiserver.c

Vincent

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] Re: kdm-gdmcompat

2011-10-28 Thread Vincent Untz
Le vendredi 28 octobre 2011, à 15:13 +0200, Valerio Mariani a écrit :
> Thanks. I could write to intercept the call, but maybe it is better
> just to write a simple script that calls kdmctl to create a new
> instance of kdm, crate a nice button for it,  and use that to switch
> user.

Or you can use the same hack as XFCE does: set the GDMFLEXISERVER
environment variable to a binary that does whatever you want to do. Look
at the /usr/bin/gdmflexiserver script to see how that works.

Vincent

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] Gedit Snippets problem

2011-11-03 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mercredi 02 novembre 2011, à 17:56 -0400, Michael Hill a écrit :
> I just noticed I'm unable to activate Snippets after a recent Factory upgrade:
> 
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "/usr/lib64/gedit/plugins/snippets/__init__.py", line 19, in 
> from windowactivatable import WindowActivatable
>   File "/usr/lib64/gedit/plugins/snippets/windowactivatable.py", line
> 29, in 
> class Activate(Gedit.Message):
>   File "/usr/lib64/gedit/plugins/snippets/windowactivatable.py", line
> 31, in Activate
> iter = GObject.property(type=Gtk.TextIter)
>   File "/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/gi/_gobject/propertyhelper.py",
> line 111, in __init__
> self.type = self._type_from_python(type)
>   File "/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/gi/_gobject/propertyhelper.py",
> line 202, in _type_from_python
> raise TypeError("Unsupported type: %r" % (type_,))
> TypeError: Unsupported type: 
> 
> (gedit:2172): libpeas-WARNING **: Error loading plugin 'snippets'
> 
> Any suggestions?  (I'll ask on gedit-list too.)

Possibly a bug in pygobject?

Vincent

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] Banshee 2.2.1

2011-11-03 Thread Vincent Untz
Le jeudi 03 novembre 2011, à 00:10 +, Nelson Marques a écrit :
> Hi all,
> 
> I've submitted yesterday an update for Banshee 2.2.1 to GNOME:Apps, a
> release with 29 bug fixes.

Thanks!

Do you think we should push this to 12.1 as a maintenance update, or are
the bug fixes not important enough?

If we want an update, we need to file a bug and to NEEDINFO the
maintenance team. It's important to explain in the bug why the update is
needed, obviously :-)

Vincent

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] Banshee 2.2.1

2011-11-03 Thread Vincent Untz
Le jeudi 03 novembre 2011, à 09:02 +, Nelson Marques a écrit :
> 2011/11/3 Vincent Untz :
> > Le jeudi 03 novembre 2011, à 00:10 +, Nelson Marques a écrit :
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I've submitted yesterday an update for Banshee 2.2.1 to GNOME:Apps, a
> >> release with 29 bug fixes.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Do you think we should push this to 12.1 as a maintenance update, or are
> > the bug fixes not important enough?
> 
> Hi Vincent,
> 
> I think that it would be interesting to have it pushed to 12.1, we
> have a new feature (DVD Playback, sounds cool for the default player),
> we have fixed for a more robust GNOME backend/gconf, enhancements on
> PulseAudio and a few new options interesting to users.
> 
> > If we want an update, we need to file a bug and to NEEDINFO the
> > maintenance team. It's important to explain in the bug why the update is
> > needed, obviously :-)
> 
> Do you want me to file the bug report ?

That'd be great; I can assist you if you need help doing the update!

Cheers,

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] GDM - Remove the grey underline stuff under user...

2011-11-09 Thread Vincent Untz
Le vendredi 04 novembre 2011, à 20:46 +, Nelson Marques a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> How can I remove/disable that awesome new feature of GDM that places a
> grey line underneath the user? This really drives me insane.

I don't think you can; it's there to show you which user is "focused"...
I wouldn't say I like it either, but it's this way for now ;-)

Vincent

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] Browser alert boxes

2011-11-14 Thread Vincent Untz
Le vendredi 11 novembre 2011, à 01:42 -0700, Sankar P a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> I've been running a mixed version of Factory + 11.4 + 12.1 so far. Today I 
> decided to upgrade to 12.1 proper.
> 
> After the upgrade, browser javascript alert boxes seem to appear in a KDE-ish 
> flavor (see attachment). Anyone else facing this issue ? With this same 
> chrome browser, on my previous OS (11.4 +12.1 etc.) , the alert boxes were in 
> GNOME-ish flavor.
> 
> Should I file a bug ? 

Hrm, could it be that you're using a theme that is not available for
gtk+ 2?

Vincent

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[opensuse-gnome] Warning: GNOME:Factory possibly broken in the near future

2011-11-15 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi all,

We've started pushing GNOME 3.3.x to GNOME:Factory, and one big change
is that glib doesn't allow usage of individual headers. This is creating
many build failures, and so G:F might be broken in fun ways if you use
it :-)

Cheers,

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] Warning: GNOME:Factory possibly broken in the near future

2011-11-15 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mercredi 16 novembre 2011, à 08:42 +0100, Andreas Jaeger a écrit :
> On Wednesday, November 16, 2011 08:37:31 Vincent Untz wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > We've started pushing GNOME 3.3.x to GNOME:Factory, and one big change
> > is that glib doesn't allow usage of individual headers. This is
> > creating many build failures, and so G:F might be broken in fun ways
> > if you use it :-)
> 
> Why not disable publishing for now so that nobody gets the broken stuff?

Because we still want to be able to use it so we know what's really
broken.

GNOME:Factory is not a repo that people should use with "no failures"
expectations :-)

Vincent

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] Gedit Snippets problem

2011-11-16 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mercredi 16 novembre 2011, à 07:27 -0500, Michael Hill a écrit :
> On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 7:31 AM, Michael Hill  wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 3:53 AM, Vincent Untz  wrote:
> >
> >> Possibly a bug in pygobject?
> >
> > Thanks.  Nacho says to upgrade pygobject, which was the solution to
> > the same problem a few weeks ago.
> >
> > I forced an upgrade from the openSUSE Factory version 3.0.1-3.2 to the
> > GNOME Factory version 3.0.1-32.6 with the same result.  I'll watch for
> > a newer version.
> 
> Fixed today from Factory.  Zypper says 12.2, python-gobject is 3.0.2
> (12.1 still has 3.0.1).

Yeah, Atri is working on a maintenance update for 12.1.

Cheers,

Vincent

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[opensuse-gnome] 12.1 is done, what's next? :-)

2011-11-17 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi all,

Unless you're living in some alternative reality, you've seen that 12.1
went out yesterday. We're getting some positive feedbacks (and also new
bugs).

I want to thank everyone who helped integrate GNOME for this release: I
feel that it's the release where we got the most people helping out, and
that's amazing! Let's keep that spirit! Btw, "helping out" is not just
packaging / bug fixing, but it's really everything that contributes to
making the GNOME team a well alive group of people.

And now, what's next? 12.2 is going to be out around next July, and that
will include GNOME 3.4.x. But that's all we know for sure.

I'd love to hear what all of you would like us to achieve in the next 8
months. Of course we won't achieve everything, but setting a direction
can't hurt :-)

So, do you see this "reply" button in your mail client? Yes? Ok, click
on it and go wild!

Cheers,

Vincent

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] 12.1 is done, what's next? :-)

2011-11-17 Thread Vincent Untz
Le jeudi 17 novembre 2011, à 15:08 +0100, LisufasGnome3 a écrit :
> This is followed by my question, when it will be a STABLE:GNOME:3.2 Repo
> for openSUSE 12.1? When current packages of GNOME 3.2.1 will be
> available for openSUSE 11.4? 

Soon :-)

We have most of GNOME 3.2.2 in G:S:3.2 right now (the rest is coming
soon); 12.1 has been added as a build target only a few minutes ago. As
for 11.4, I think we needed some people to test it before publishing it.

Vincent

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[opensuse-gnome] Fwd: extensions.gnome.org - Public Alpha Now Available

2011-12-01 Thread Vincent Untz
Go test this, it's amazing! :-)

Vincent

- Forwarded message from "Jasper St. Pierre"  -

Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 16:16:26 -0500
From: "Jasper St. Pierre" 
To: gnome-shell-list ,
desktop-devel-l...@gnome.org, gnome-announce-l...@gnome.org
Subject: extensions.gnome.org - Public Alpha Now Available

We're happy to announce that extensions.gnome.org is now in
public alpha testing at:

 https://extensions.gnome.org

If you have GNOME Shell 3.2 on your system, you should be able to
install extensions from the website via your browser. This uses the
"GNOME Shell Integration" browser plugin which is likely already
installed on your system if you have GNOME 3.2. The plugin only works
with Firefox currently - see "Known Bugs" below.

We've seeded the site with a small set of extensions, including
the extensions from gnome-shell-extensions. If you are the author
of an extension that has been uploaded, and you want to take over
uploading future releases, please contact us, and we'll get you
access.

The set of extensions on the site is still small compared to the total
number of extensions available. We expect more extensions to be
available over the next few weeks as authors upload them and they
are reviewed.

About GNOME Shell Extensions


GNOME Shell extensions are small pieces of code written by third party
developers that modify the way GNOME works. (If you are familiar with
Chrome Extensions or Firefox Addons, GNOME Shell extensions are
similar to them.)

Since extensions are created outside of the normal GNOME design and
development process, they are are supported by their authors, rather
than by the GNOME community.

Extensions provide a way to prototype out new possible features for
future versions of GNOME, and for advanced users to make
customizations in ways that aren't necessarily compatible with the
overall design vision of GNOME, but are still cool and useful to
a subset of users.

Since extensions become part of the core operating system, they need
to be checked for potential security problems. Extensions uploaded
to extensions.gnome.org go through code review before they are
made available for download. More information can be found at
https://extensions.gnome.org/about/.

Known Bugs and Problems
===

* There are some bugs that currently cause the browser plugin to
  not work correctly in WebKit-based browsers like Epiphany
  or Chrome. We will fix these bugs in subsequent releases of
  GNOME Shell, but for now using Firefox to access
  extensions.gnome.org is advised.

* Extensions that use GSettings to store user settings cannot be
  currently installed as a user; this limitation will be fixed
  for GNOME 3.4. In the mean time, extension authors should
  avoid the use of GSettings if they want to make their extension
  available via extensions.gnome.org.

* Due to a bug in GNOME Shell 3.2.1 code, the uninstall button
  will not work for some extensions. Disabling extensions still
  works, but if you want to remove an extension entirely, you'll
  need to manually delete it from ~/.local/share/gnome-shell/extensions.

Reporting Problems
==

If you find problems with the site, please file them in
bugzilla.gnome.org against the 'extensions.gnome.org' component
of the website product.

Problems with individual extensions should be reported using
the "Help! It didn't work!" link on the extension's page.

Thanks to everybody that made this happen!

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] Fwd: extensions.gnome.org - Public Alpha Now Available

2011-12-02 Thread Vincent Untz
Le vendredi 28 octobre 2011, à 01:02 +0530, Subhashish a écrit :
> * Some extensions didn't install saying they were incompatible with
> my system. It would be better if it informed me that my system was
> not updated or extra dependencies were required. It could be done by
> putting a more button beside the message.

Some extensions are compatible with GNOME Shell 3.2.0 and not 3.2.1
(while we have 3.2.1 in 12.1). So that could be the issue.

> * Second, why were the extensions and the extension page not
> compatible with epiphany? (Oh I see now "There are some bugs that
> currently cause the browser plugin to  not work correctly in
> WebKit-based browsers like Epiphany  or Chrome."). I hope they fix
> it.

As far as I can tell, we only need 3 commits to make the website work
with Epiphany or Chrome. These are the last 3 commits from:
 http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-shell/log/browser-plugin

So we could have a maintenance update for that.

Vincent

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] Fwd: extensions.gnome.org - Public Alpha Now Available

2011-12-02 Thread Vincent Untz
Le vendredi 02 décembre 2011, à 09:07 +, Nelson Marques a écrit :
> That's something that upstream or distributor need to fix. I'm a dumb
> user :) If this site to be accessible by Chrome required software to
> enable it, then I only recall one word that can describe it:
> "FAILURE".

Which is why the website is clearly advertised as being an alpha
version. There are known issues, and they're being worked on.

Vincent

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] tracker dependencies?

2011-12-07 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mercredi 07 décembre 2011, à 22:01 +0800, Gerald Pfeifer a écrit :
> Hi guys,
> 
> not sure whether to file this as a bug report, something tells me
> WONTFIX or INVALID might be just a comment away, but this really
> does seem a bi overeager:
> 
>   # zypper rm tracker
>   Loading repository data...
>   Reading installed packages...
>   Resolving package dependencies...
> 
>   The following packages are going to be REMOVED:
> brasero brasero-lang brasero-nautilus gnome-control-center 
> gnome-control-center-branding-upstream gnome-session 
> gnome-session-default-session gnome-shell gnome-shell-browser-plugin 
> gnome-shell-lang gnome-tweak-tool gnome-tweak-tool-lang grilo-plugins 
> libtracker-extract-0_12-0 libtracker-miner-0_12-0 
> libtracker-sparql-0_12-0 
> nautilus nautilus-lang nautilus-sendto nautilus-sendto-lang 
> nautilus-sendto-plugin-upnp patterns-openSUSE-gnome_basis tracker 
> 
> No more Nautilus, no more Brasero (Brasero?!), no more gnome-tweak-tool
> just because I remove tracker?
> 
> Are some dependencies a bit too strict here, maybe?

This is https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=724554 :-)

Shouldn't be too hard to fix that. Changing the Requires to Recommends
is a good start.

Vincent

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[opensuse-gnome] Fwd: [opensuse-project] Google Code-in - Reminder to add more tasks

2011-12-15 Thread Vincent Untz
Hey hey,

Do we have any other task that could be done in the context of the GNOME
team?

Creating a package from scratch might be a bit too hard, but I'm sure we
can find a few tasks! (And Richard did find some for the first round)

Cheers,

Vincent

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Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 16:50:44 +0530
From: Manu Gupta 
To: opensuse-project 
Subject: [opensuse-project] Google Code-in - Reminder to add more tasks

Hi All,

During this code-in, we have done quite a bit of marketing jobs. Below
there I am posting what has been done till now thanks to all the
students and the mentors ( who may or may not be here ) but certainly
we can make use of it. Now here are some lists of tasks that we have
done but some bit. Its time for to either become a mentor or propose
newer tasks.

This is an awesome list and without you awesome guys it would not have
been possible. Also, if you can forward it to relevant mailing lists
from where we can get more ideas or tasks like that will be extra
awesome.

So lets gear up, brainstorm and add more lists. There are 2 ways
1. Become a mentor and add the tasks yourself
2. Just mail it here or mail me personally and I will add it.

Examples of tasks can be
Translation related, bug reporting, web related, documentation
related, wiki related any article for news etc related.

Please visit http://www.google-melange.com/ to look at the task list
of openSUSE so that there is as less duplication as possible. last
date of adding the tasks is 15th December.

Thanks a lot.

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] External USB CD/DVD-RW Driver Not Working

2011-12-15 Thread Vincent Untz
Le jeudi 15 décembre 2011, à 05:14 -0500, Adam Tauno Williams a écrit :
> openSUSE 12.1 x86_64 3.1.0-1.2-desktop GNOME3 3.2.1
> 
> I have an external USB CD/DVD drive.  This drive has always 'just
> worked' in openSUSE 11.3 & 11.4.  However, under 12.1, the drive doesn't
> seem to participate as a removable storage device.  It does not appear
> in Nautilus when a disc is inserted or raise any prompt when a blank
> disc is inserted.

[...]

> Do I need to twiddle something to get GNOME to manage this device as a
> removable media device?

Does it appear in "udisks --dump"?

Vincent

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] GNOME Shell fails to launch after zypper dup

2011-12-15 Thread Vincent Untz
Le jeudi 15 décembre 2011, à 08:51 -0500, Michael Hill a écrit :
> ...to 12.2 with GNOME Factory.  The failure screen gives me the
> opportunity to switch off extensions (four installed but none active)
> and log out.

Yeah, you're faced with the current upgrade issue in GNOME:Factory.
Remove libclutter-glx-1_0-0 and reinstall typelib-1_0-Clutter-1_0. This
should work.

Things will get better when we push G:F to Factory. You can blame me, as
this temporary issue is going on for too long by my fault :/

Vincent

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] External USB CD/DVD-RW Driver Not Working

2011-12-15 Thread Vincent Untz
Le jeudi 15 décembre 2011, à 06:16 -0500, Adam Tauno Williams a écrit :
> On Thu, 2011-12-15 at 11:25 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote:
> > Le jeudi 15 décembre 2011, à 05:14 -0500, Adam Tauno Williams a écrit :
> > > openSUSE 12.1 x86_64 3.1.0-1.2-desktop GNOME3 3.2.1
> > > I have an external USB CD/DVD drive.  This drive has always 'just
> > > worked' in openSUSE 11.3 & 11.4.  However, under 12.1, the drive doesn't
> > > seem to participate as a removable storage device.  It does not appear
> > > in Nautilus when a disc is inserted or raise any prompt when a blank
> > > disc is inserted
> > [...]
> > > Do I need to twiddle something to get GNOME to manage this device as a
> > > removable media device?
> > Does it appear in "udisks --dump"?
> 
> I believe so (full udisk output attached):

You seem to have two DVD drives. Does it happen for both, or only one of
them?

What do you get in: gvfs-mount --list
Also, does anything happen when you plug it in: gvfs-mount --monitor

Cheers,

Vincent

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[opensuse-gnome] Contributing is easy, just ask!

2011-12-15 Thread Vincent Untz
Hey,

During the meeting today, one thing we discussed is that we kind of
stopped maintaining a list of small tasks that everyone could handle by
simply jumping in.

We will likely try to build such a list again, but before we do so, just
keep in mind one thing: if you want to do something and are not sure
what to do, just ask, here or on irc! There are several people who will
be able to find some small thing for you. And who will also happily help
you complete the task :-)

And don't be afraid of not doing enough: even contributing once a week
is great!

So just ask, and we'll help you contribute!

Cheers,

Vincent

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] External USB CD/DVD-RW Driver Not Working

2011-12-16 Thread Vincent Untz
Le jeudi 15 décembre 2011, à 12:29 -0500, Adam Tauno Williams a écrit :
> On Thu, 2011-12-15 at 15:15 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote:
> > Also, does anything happen when you plug it in: gvfs-mount --monitor
> 
> I unpowered, started monitor, and repowered the drive.  Then inserted a
> DVD...
> 
> awilliam@workstation:~> gvfs-mount --monitor
> Monitoring events. Press Ctrl+C to quit.
> Drive connected:'CD/DVD Drive'
> 
> Inserting the DVD did not raise an event.

Hrm, and in udisks --monitor (or --monitor-detail)?

It really sounds like an issue deeper than GNOME, fwiw.

Vincent

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] Banshee

2011-12-18 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi Nelson,

Le dimanche 18 décembre 2011, à 20:07 +, Nelson Marques a écrit :
> Hi all,
> 
> I can't really understand why are the submissions for Banshee taking
> too long to get reviewed.

This was mentioned in the meeting last week, iirc: we're late with
various things, including several outstanding submissions (not just
banshee).

Dominique has been handling most of the burden recently, and I've been
working on other things (in addition to personal changes eating more
time I had anticipated).

The dust is settling, though, so things should go back to normal.

> I can only see 2 options to get this stuff done:
> 
> 1. Write permissions as maintainer of the package, so i don't need to
> relly on anyone else to get stuff done;
> 2. File a submission for changing the development project back to
> Banshee repositories.

If you believe this is really necessary, we can go for option 2 quite
easily. But I'd hope the close return to normal situation would make you
happy enough :-)

Cheers,

Vincent

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[opensuse-gnome] Re: [opensuse-project] stupid 12.1

2011-12-21 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mercredi 21 décembre 2011, à 10:28 +, Richard Brown a écrit :
> Hi Albert,
> 
> As your email focuses very much on gnome, I'm CC'ing this reply to the
> opensuse-gnome mailinglist so my fellow gnomers can read your
> feedback.

Thanks, I encourage everyone interested in the discussion to participate
to it on the opensuse-gnome mailing list, as I'm afraid it's off-topic
for opensuse-project.

Albert: I'll reply to your points there.

Cheers,

Vincent

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] Re: [opensuse-project] stupid 12.1

2011-12-21 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi,

Le mercredi 21 décembre 2011, à 10:28 +, Richard Brown a écrit :
> >>> Albert  12/21/11 10:00 AM >>>
> I've used SUSE for more than six years and each new version coming out 
> always give me surprising more or less. However, I found the most recent 
> 12.1 is really disappointed, especially the gnome desktop:
> 
> 1. I don't find any difference and surprise with this gnome3 while 
> comparing with other linux distribution.

Richard answered to this quite nicely :-)

> 2. When I switch to gnome2-like environment, I am getting very angry. 
> How can SUSE become as stupid as Ubuntu? The gnome2-like environment is 
> almost the same as Ubuntu. The menu, the task bar color and so on. 
> Why can't SUSE keep its own uniques? The SUSE menu in 10.0 till 11.4 is 
> quit nice and creative. Why did this 12.1 switch to stupid Ubuntu like 
> style?

This has nothing to do with Ubuntu: the default look and feel of the
fallback mode has been created so that it is close to GNOME Shell.

We discussed if, for openSUSE, we wanted to keep that upstream decision,
or choose to offer something closer to what we had before. And because
we want to encourage people to use GNOME Shell, we decided to keep
things this way.

> 3. What's worse. The workspace switcher in gnome2-like environment is 
> the same as 10.0 version: when we use "only show current workspace", it 
> can only show ONE workspace, and others are all gone..

I just started the livecd to check, and things are fine here. Can you
open the preferences of the workspace switcher, and tell us if you see
this because there's only one workspace, or because the "only show
current workspace" setting is set? Is this on a brand new install, on
first login?

Thanks,

Vincent

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] Help wanted from the master tinkerers

2012-01-04 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi Nelson,

Le dimanche 25 décembre 2011, à 19:04 +, Nelson Marques a écrit :
> Hi all,
> 
> MATE Desktop uses a fork of gconf called mateconf. This stuff uses the
> traditional schemas files and there's a few things I would like to ask
> from someone more proeficient in this ways to accomplish for
> openSUSE...
> 
> With gconf as far as I can tell, the schema files were created in
> /etc/gconf/foobar.schema and a macro we invocked would then move them
> to /usr/share/GConf/ and merge them up.
> 
> mateconf is pretty much the same... files are created in
> /etc/mateconf/schemas and later need to be moved to
> /usr/share/mateconf. Debian does it this way:
> 
> 
> mkdir -p debian/mate-terminal/usr/share/mateconf/schemas
> mateconf-merge-schema
> "debian/mate-terminal/usr/share/mateconf/schemas/mate-terminal.schemas"
> \
>  --domain mate-terminal
> debian/mate-terminal/etc/mateconf/schemas/*.schemas
> rm -rf debian/mate-terminal/etc/mateconf/schemas/
> 
> 
> What I would like to achieve was to make an rpm macro like the one we
> use for gconf schemas so we can handle this situations more
> efficiently on openSUSE, but I would also like to donate this macro to
> the 'mate-common' package, which is a set of tools used to build mate
> (it is BuildRequired in all packages, except for itself. It contains
> m4 macros alongside with other tools).
> 
> 
> Anyone with power and know-how that can help me accomplish this ?

It's unclear to me: is mate-common based on some upstream tarball, or
does it just contain some openSUSE specific bits?

If you're looking for a downstream-only solution: any reason to not do
it exactly the way it's done for gconf?

If you're looking for an upstreamable solution: I'd think the directory
where to put schema files could be a variable in the mateconf pkg-config
file, and then all modules would use that variable.

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] Help wanted from the master tinkerers

2012-01-04 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mercredi 04 janvier 2012, à 08:43 +, Nelson Marques a écrit :
> 2012/1/4 Vincent Untz :
> > Hi Nelson,
> >
> > Le dimanche 25 décembre 2011, à 19:04 +, Nelson Marques a écrit :
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> MATE Desktop uses a fork of gconf called mateconf. This stuff uses the
> >> traditional schemas files and there's a few things I would like to ask
> >> from someone more proeficient in this ways to accomplish for
> >> openSUSE...
> >>
> >> With gconf as far as I can tell, the schema files were created in
> >> /etc/gconf/foobar.schema and a macro we invocked would then move them
> >> to /usr/share/GConf/ and merge them up.
> >>
> >> mateconf is pretty much the same... files are created in
> >> /etc/mateconf/schemas and later need to be moved to
> >> /usr/share/mateconf. Debian does it this way:
> >>
> >>
> >> mkdir -p debian/mate-terminal/usr/share/mateconf/schemas
> >> mateconf-merge-schema
> >> "debian/mate-terminal/usr/share/mateconf/schemas/mate-terminal.schemas"
> >> \
> >>                                      --domain mate-terminal
> >> debian/mate-terminal/etc/mateconf/schemas/*.schemas
> >> rm -rf debian/mate-terminal/etc/mateconf/schemas/
> >>
> >>
> >> What I would like to achieve was to make an rpm macro like the one we
> >> use for gconf schemas so we can handle this situations more
> >> efficiently on openSUSE, but I would also like to donate this macro to
> >> the 'mate-common' package, which is a set of tools used to build mate
> >> (it is BuildRequired in all packages, except for itself. It contains
> >> m4 macros alongside with other tools).
> >>
> >>
> >> Anyone with power and know-how that can help me accomplish this ?
> >
> > It's unclear to me: is mate-common based on some upstream tarball, or
> > does it just contain some openSUSE specific bits?
> 
> Hi Vincent,
> 
> It looks to me that mate-common is a fork of gnome-common package.

Interesting. We don't need gnome-common to build most GNOME packages,
though; it's generally only needed when building from git.

> Currently it has a directory called 'distro' which includes some
> distribution utilities, just one actually, for Ubuntu and Arch Linux.
> It's a tiny script that merges the installed schemas into a new
> schema.

Note that we're not doing that for gconf in openSUSE; I'm actually
unsure why it's done this way (why not just have one schema for each
module, in that case?). So you can't reproduce exactly what we've been
doing for gconf, but I guess a lot can still be shared.

> The main interest would be to pass this script to a macro.

You can look at the macros.gconf2 file in the gconf2 source package.
This is what defines the macros, and a lot of what's in there could be
moved to your script, indeed. Sounds to me like you want to put in that
script the content of what %find_gconf_schemas would expand to.

> > If you're looking for a downstream-only solution: any reason to not do
> > it exactly the way it's done for gconf?
> >
> > If you're looking for an upstreamable solution: I'd think the directory
> > where to put schema files could be a variable in the mateconf pkg-config
> > file, and then all modules would use that variable.
> 
> As far as I can tell (I didn't had much experience with gconf), but
> while gconf installs several schemas, mate-conf installs several
> schemas that are merged (during %install) into one big schema called
> %{name}.schema and installed on %_datadir/mateconf/schemas.

Right. But, assuming mate-conf works like gconf, it doesn't matter much
in the end, really, since the very end result will be the same.

Vincent

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] Nautilus and recycle bin

2012-01-16 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi,

(removed the links to the pictures, as they trigger some spam filter on
some mail server)

Le jeudi 12 janvier 2012, à 22:14 +0200, Stathis Iosifidis (aka diamond_gr) a 
écrit :
> Hello,
> 
> I don't know how to search for solution or if there's a bug report
> (or how to report a bug).
> 
> Well, when I'm using nautilus full size, I can go to trash (see the pic)
> 
> When it's not full size, when I move to trash, nautilus hides the
> bookmarks (see the pic).
> 
> I cannot drag the column.
> 
> When I click on home folder, I can drag the column and the bookmarks
> are visible.
> 
> Is there a solution?
> I can use it full size, don't have a problem.

I can't reproduce that -- I can always resize. Are you always clicking
in the area where there are the dots, to make the left pane larger?

Cheers,

Vincent

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] Nautilus and recycle bin

2012-01-16 Thread Vincent Untz
Le lundi 16 janvier 2012, à 12:55 +0200, Stathis Iosifidis (aka diamond_gr) a 
écrit :
> I created a video
> 
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8327991/trash_problem.mpeg

(for reference, you can create a video directly from gnome-shell, see
https://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/CheatSheet)

> I hope this helps to understand it.
> I don't think that's a translation problem because we don't have it
> on other distros.
> And also you don't have it, right?
> What feedback do you want me to give you to help find the problem?

I understand now: the issue is the buttons in the context bar for the
trash folder: their text is too long, and is forcing the size of that
part of the window.

So a good solution would be to try to make the translated text shorter
for those buttons.

Cheers,

Vincent

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[opensuse-gnome] GNOME:Factory warning: wait a bit :-)

2012-01-19 Thread Vincent Untz
Hey there,

I'd advise people using GNOME:Factory to wait a bit before upgrading.
There's some fun because of various libs needing to be rebuilt first in
Factory (at least icu and tracker).

It should all go fine in the next few days, after more things get
rebuilt.

Cheers,

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] GNOME:Factory warning: wait a bit :-)

2012-01-19 Thread Vincent Untz
Le jeudi 19 janvier 2012, à 19:09 +0100, Vincent Untz a écrit :
> Hey there,
> 
> I'd advise people using GNOME:Factory to wait a bit before upgrading.
> There's some fun because of various libs needing to be rebuilt first in
> Factory (at least icu and tracker).
> 
> It should all go fine in the next few days, after more things get
> rebuilt.

Just in case it's too late for some people: if gnome-shell starts
crashing or being extremely slow, just reinstall those packages from
Factory instead of GNOME:Factory:

 gnome-shell libclutter-1_0-0 libcogl-pango0 mutter
 typelib-1_0-Clutter-1_0 typelib-1_0-Cogl-1_0

Cheers,

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] FOSSCOMM 2012 Greece (conference)

2012-01-25 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mercredi 25 janvier 2012, à 10:27 +0200, Stathis Iosifidis (aka diamond_gr) 
a écrit :
> I'm thinking to present something openSUSE-gnome related but since I
> don't know many technical things, I need help. We would have the new
> version by then, right?

Yes, there will be GNOME 3.4, and it will already be in Factory. I don't
think you need to present the new GNOME stuff from a technical
perspective -- the release notes for GNOME 3.4 would be a good basis for
a talk, I'd say.

Also, we can help you about the specific changes in openSUSE for 12.2 in
the GNOME world -- it's a bit early right now, but if you ping us one
month before the event, we can probably give you a list of changes
(that will mostly be about new packages, configuration changes, etc.)

Cheers,

Vincent

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] GNOME:Factory warning: wait a bit :-)

2012-01-25 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mercredi 25 janvier 2012, à 08:35 -0500, Michael Hill a écrit :
> On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Vincent Untz  wrote:
> 
> > Just in case it's too late for some people: if gnome-shell starts
> > crashing or being extremely slow, just reinstall those packages from
> > Factory instead of GNOME:Factory:
> >
> >  gnome-shell libclutter-1_0-0 libcogl-pango0 mutter
> >  typelib-1_0-Clutter-1_0 typelib-1_0-Cogl-1_0
> 
> Is G:F safe yet?  A Clutter update fixed the problem on Mageia yesterday.

I pushed the new clutter last night, but G:F is rebuilding right now. So
not safe yet :/

Vincent

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] Vincent / Dimstar - anyone ?

2012-01-25 Thread Vincent Untz
Le jeudi 26 janvier 2012, à 00:07 +, Nelson Marques a écrit :
> unresolvable: nothing provides libtracker-sparql-0.12.so.0()(64bit)
> needed by nautilus

Known issue: we need to push nautilus to Factory.
For that, we need to push glib2/gtk3.
For that, we also need to push mutter/gnome-shell.
For that, we need the new clutter that works.
For that, we need to test G:F (finished building for i586).

So please wait a bit. Can't do more, unfortunately :/

Vincent

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] GNOME:Factory warning: wait a bit :-)

2012-01-26 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mercredi 25 janvier 2012, à 14:50 +0100, Vincent Untz a écrit :
> Le mercredi 25 janvier 2012, à 08:35 -0500, Michael Hill a écrit :
> > On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Vincent Untz  wrote:
> > 
> > > Just in case it's too late for some people: if gnome-shell starts
> > > crashing or being extremely slow, just reinstall those packages from
> > > Factory instead of GNOME:Factory:
> > >
> > >  gnome-shell libclutter-1_0-0 libcogl-pango0 mutter
> > >  typelib-1_0-Clutter-1_0 typelib-1_0-Cogl-1_0
> > 
> > Is G:F safe yet?  A Clutter update fixed the problem on Mageia yesterday.
> 
> I pushed the new clutter last night, but G:F is rebuilding right now. So
> not safe yet :/

G:F is now fine on i586.

For x86_64: check that libclutter-1_0-0 is at version 1.9.8 before
updating (clutter didn't build on x86_64 last night, but it built fine a
few minutes ago -- just need the new rpm to be published).

Cheers,

Vincent

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] Vincent / Dimstar - anyone ?

2012-01-26 Thread Vincent Untz
Le jeudi 26 janvier 2012, à 08:31 +0100, Vincent Untz a écrit :
> Le jeudi 26 janvier 2012, à 00:07 +, Nelson Marques a écrit :
> > unresolvable: nothing provides libtracker-sparql-0.12.so.0()(64bit)
> > needed by nautilus
> 
> Known issue: we need to push nautilus to Factory.
> For that, we need to push glib2/gtk3.
> For that, we also need to push mutter/gnome-shell.
> For that, we need the new clutter that works.
> For that, we need to test G:F (finished building for i586).
> 
> So please wait a bit. Can't do more, unfortunately :/

Tested, and pushed to Factory. So will be fixed soon.

Vincent

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] typelib question

2012-01-27 Thread Vincent Untz
Le vendredi 27 janvier 2012, à 21:20 +, Nelson Marques a écrit :
> Hi all,
> 
> I was toying around with 'pmap' today and cinnamon checking a few
> things of my personal interest and I've noticed the following:
> 
> 
> 7fc56eee4000 32K 32K 32K  0K  0K r--p
> /usr/lib64/girepository-1.0/Gee-1.0.typelib
> 7fc56eeec000 60K 44K 44K  0K  0K r--p
> /usr/lib64/muffin/Meta-3.0.typelib
> 7fc56eefb000 40K 40K 40K  0K  0K r--p
> /usr/lib64/girepository-1.0/NMClient-1.0.typelib
> 
> 
> From the middle line, it seems that 'muffin' installed the the typelib
> in a different place. Ok, ideally this should be fixed on the source
> (right?)... I can eventually try to fix this... Is this only a
> packaging issue, or is there code hammering required ?

No, that's done like this by design (this copied from mutter): the
typelib from mutter/muffin is not supposed to be public, I guess.

Btw, if you move it to girepository-1.0, it should really be renamed, as
the mutter one has the same name and we could easily get a conflict
there.

Cheers,

Vincent

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] evolution-mapi

2012-02-02 Thread Vincent Untz
Le jeudi 02 février 2012, à 12:40 +, Nelson Marques a écrit :
> Dear people,
> 
> There's a serious bug in evolution-mapi and it's only detected in 12.1
> (it seems to work fine on 11.4). The latest version 3.3.4 (provided on
> GNOME:Evolution:mapi is 3.2.2).
> Anyway we can see an update ?

cc'ing Punit Jain who's one of the person that worked on
GNOME:Evolution:mapi.

Vincent

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] Cinnamon dependencies on GNOME3

2012-02-07 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mardi 07 février 2012, à 12:42 +, Nelson Marques a écrit :
> Hi all,
> 
> In the past I had a 'Requires: gnome-shell' on Cinnamon which I
> removed because whenever cinnamon was a build dependency it pulled a
> whole lot of things not needed because of that dependency.
> 
> Since Cinnamon requires the GNOME3 pattern installed, what would be
> the best way to enforce that Cinnamon could only be installed if
> GNOME3 is installed (or at least pull it when installing Cinnamon)?

Is there any reason that cinnamon is a build dependency of other things?
If yes, is it that much of an issue that it drags many things when
building those other packages?

In all cases, one potential solution is to split the cinnamon binary
package in two:

 cinnamon-core: would only contain the minimal stuff to build other
packages, with no big deps
 cinnamon: would contain everything else, with the big deps

Vincent

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] Re: Nautilus in GNOME Factory

2012-02-08 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mercredi 08 février 2012, à 05:22 -0500, Michael Hill a écrit :
> On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 6:42 PM, Michael Hill  wrote:
> 
> > Nautilus hasn't worked for me for a few days, missing
> > libtracker-data.so.0.  Zypper recommended switching (downgrading)
> > 170-odd packages to Regular Factory to fix it.
> 
> Like this:
> 
> nautilus: error while loading shared libraries: libtracker-data.so.0:
> cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
> 
> ...still, after last night's updates.

Can you check which version of tracker (and tracker libraries) you have?
It should be 0.13.0.

Vincent

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] Re: Nautilus in GNOME Factory

2012-02-08 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mercredi 08 février 2012, à 05:49 -0500, Michael Hill a écrit :
> mike@himon:~> sudo zypper install tracker-0.13.0-2.2.x86_64
> Loading repository data...
> Reading installed packages...
> Resolving package dependencies...
> 
> Problem: tracker-miner-evolution-0.12.5-6.3.x86_64 requires tracker =
> 0.12.5, but this requirement cannot be provided
>   deleted providers: tracker-0.12.5-6.3.x86_64
>  Solution 1: Following actions will be done:
>   deinstallation of tracker-miner-evolution-0.12.5-6.3.x86_64
>   install libicu-4.8.1.1-1.1.x86_64 (with vendor change)
> obs://build.opensuse.org/GNOME  -->  openSUSE
>   downgrade of libjavascriptcoregtk-1_0-0-1.7.3-105.2.x86_64 to
> libjavascriptcoregtk-1_0-0-1.7.3-1.2.x86_64
>   install libjavascriptcoregtk-1_0-0-1.7.3-1.2.x86_64 (with vendor change)
> obs://build.opensuse.org/GNOME  -->  openSUSE
>   downgrade of libwebkitgtk-1_0-0-1.7.3-105.2.x86_64 to
> libwebkitgtk-1_0-0-1.7.3-1.2.x86_64
>   install libwebkitgtk-1_0-0-1.7.3-1.2.x86_64 (with vendor change)
> obs://build.opensuse.org/GNOME  -->  openSUSE
>  Solution 2: do not install tracker-0.13.0-2.2.x86_64
>  Solution 3: break tracker-miner-evolution by ignoring some of its 
> dependencies
> 
> Choose from above solutions by number or cancel [1/2/3/c] (c):

Choose option 1. It's unfortunate, but libwebkit often fails to build
because it's too big for OBS.

Vincent

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