oracle version

2003-03-05 Thread kommareddy sreenivasa
Hello All,

OS: Solaris
DB: Oracle

Can somebody tell me how to know in what version  or
patchset level the oracle home is ?

when I go and see in $ORACLE_HOME, I couldn't find
whether it is 8.1.7.3 , 8.1.7.4 or 8.1.7.0 or some
other.

How to know exactly at which version the $ORACLE_HOME
is?

Thanks and regards,
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age out/ flushout sharedpool

2003-03-05 Thread kommareddy sreenivasa
Hi All,

Is there a way to just flush out a single sql stement
from shared pool.

Alter system flush shared_pool; will flush whole pool.

I want to find out exact time a select statement is
taking for execution.

when i first executed, it is taking 15 seconds, and
the 2nd time, as all of you know , it is taking just a
second.

I want to just flush that particular SQL from shared
pool and re-execute it.

Is there a way for this.(changing case didn't help me)

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create control file failed

2003-03-05 Thread BanarasiBabu Tippa



Hi 
All

I am 
recreating the database from cold backup. But I am facing the following 
problem

Oracle 
version : 8.1.7
Environment : HP 


SVRMGR CREATE CONTROLFILE REUSE SET DATABASE 
"HTK443M8" RESETLOGS ARCHIVELOG 
2 MAXLOGFILES 32 
3 MAXLOGMEMBERS 2 
4 MAXDATAFILES 254 
5 MAXINSTANCES 8 
6 MAXLOGHISTORY 29041 
7 LOGFILE 8 GROUP 1 
'/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/redo01.log' SIZE 
500K, 9 GROUP 2 
'/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/redo02.log' SIZE 500K, 
10 GROUP 3 '/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/redo03.log' SIZE 
500K, 11 GROUP 4 
'/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/redo04.log' SIZE 500K 
12 DATAFILE 13 
'/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/system01.dbf', 
14 '/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/tools01.dbf', 
15 '/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/rbs01.dbf', 
16 '/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/temp01.dbf', 
17 '/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/users01.dbf', 
18 '/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/indx01.dbf', 
19 
'/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/admin_01.dbf', 
20 '/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/bmpi_01.dbf', 
21 '/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/cnc_01.dbf', 
22 
'/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/evnt_mast_01.dbf', 
23 
'/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/evnt_othr_01.dbf', 
24 
'/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/images_01.dbf', 
25 
'/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/lists_01.dbf', 
26 
'/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/matrl_01.dbf', 
27 
'/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/audit_sis01.dbf', 
28 
'/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/audit_sis_idx01.dbf', 
29 
'/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/matrl_use_01.dbf', 
30 
'/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/modules_01.dbf', 
31 '/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/obs_01.dbf', 
32 
'/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/patients_01.dbf', 
33 '/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/pdt_01.dbf', 
34 
'/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/personnel_01.dbf', 
35 
'/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/quality_01.dbf', 
36 
'/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/schedules_01.dbf', 
37 
'/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/script_01.dbf', 
38 
'/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/admin_idx_01.dbf', 
39 
'/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/bmpi_idx_01.dbf', 
40 
'/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/cnc_idx_01.dbf', 
41 '/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/rbs1_01.dbf', 
42 
'/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/evnt_mast_idx_01.dbf', 
43 
'/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/evnt_othr_idx_01.dbf', 
44 
'/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/images_idx_01.dbf', 
45 
'/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/lists_idx_01.dbf', 
46 
'/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/matrl_idx_01.dbf', 
47 
'/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/matrl_use_idx_01.dbf', 
48 
'/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/modules_idx_01.dbf', 
49 '/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/rbs2_01.dbf', 
50 
'/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/obs_idx_01.dbf', 
51 
'/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/patients_idx_01.dbf', 
52 
'/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/pdt_idx_01.dbf', 
53 
'/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/personnel_idx_01.dbf', 
54 
'/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/quality_idx_01.dbf', 
55 
'/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/schedules_idx_01.dbf', 
56 
'/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/script_idx_01.dbf', 
57 
'/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/interface_01.dbf', 
58 '/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/drsys01.dbf', 
59 '/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/quest01.dbf', 
60 
'/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/crystal_report_01.dbf', 
61 
'/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/crystal_report_idx_01.dbf', 
62 
'/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/interface_idx_01.dbf', 
63 
'/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/sisweb_01.dbf', 
64 
'/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/rules_engine_01.dbf' 65 
CHARACTER SET US7ASCII 66 ;CREATE CONTROLFILE 
REUSE SET DATABASE "HTK443M8" RESETLOGS ARCHIVELOG*ORA-01503: CREATE 
CONTROLFILE failedORA-01565: error in identifying file 
'/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/audit_sis01.dbf'ORA-27046: file size is not a 
multiple of logical block sizeAdditional information: 1SVRMGR spool 
off
I 
verified with metalink, It is saying this is due to incorrect DB_BLOCK_SIZE 
parameter. But I am sure there is no change in this parameter. 


Any 
thoughts/suggestions in this regard very much appreciated.


Banarasi Babu
OCP, 
DBA


RE: Slow query

2003-03-05 Thread Jack van Zanen



two 
functions versus one maybe

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  7:34To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  Slow queryDear 
  all, Please find below the 2 
  queries : select dep_date from 
  test_date1 where 
  to_char(dep_date,'dd-mon-') = '12-jan-2002' select dep_date from test_date1 where TRUNC(dep_date) = to_DATE( 
  '12-jan-2002','dd-mon-') The execution plan for both the queries shows a FTS on 
  test_date1. Execution Plan 
  -- 
   0   SELECT 
  STATEMENT Optimizer=CHOOSE  
  1  0  SORT (AGGREGATE)  2  1   TABLE 
  ACCESS (FULL) OF 'TEST_DATE1' The 
  number of rows to be retrieved are 120010. The first query took 10msec to execute whereas the 
  second took about 2 secs. Could 
  anyone help me figure out what the problem would be. TIA Best RegardsJai


Re: Slow query

2003-03-05 Thread Jonathan Lewis

Which version of Oracle ?

The second query has to do a trunc() and a to_date()
on every single row.  The first only has to do a to_char
on every single row.  There is a CPU difference between
the two queries and if you run the execution plan through
v9 with cpu_costing, you will find a difference in cost -
though probably not enough to agree with your clock test.

A simple test on 8.1.7.4 and 9.2.0.2 where I created a
table of 128,000 rows with a date column scattered inside
a single date showed that one query used about twice
the CPU of the other in v9, and four times in v8.  (Unfortunately,
in all cases, the CPU reported by Oracle was consistently larger
than the elapsed time reported by SQL*Plus).


First check, though, is the test repeatable, or did
something happen elsewhere to affect the elapsed time.
(e.g. was one tested subject to a lot of delayed block
cleanout).



NB - The execution plan shown is not the plan for either
of the two statements, and I am fairly sure that neither
statement could actually return 120,000 rows in 10 ms.
Do your timings refer to a test where you changed
the query to do a count() ?




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 Dear all,

 Please find below the 2 queries :

 select dep_date from test_date1
 where to_char(dep_date,'dd-mon-') = '12-jan-2002'

 select dep_date from test_date1
 where TRUNC(dep_date) = to_DATE( '12-jan-2002','dd-mon-')

 The execution plan for both the queries shows a FTS on test_date1.

 Execution Plan
 --
0  SELECT STATEMENT Optimizer=CHOOSE
10   SORT (AGGREGATE)
21 TABLE ACCESS (FULL) OF 'TEST_DATE1'

 The number of rows to be retrieved are 120010.

 The first query took 10msec to execute whereas the second took about
2
 secs.

 Could anyone help me figure out what the problem would be.

 TIA

 Best Regards
 Jai

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RE: Slow query

2003-03-05 Thread Stephane Faroult

Dear all,

Please find below the 2 queries :

select dep_date from test_date1
where to_char(dep_date,'dd-mon-') =
'12-jan-2002'

select dep_date from test_date1
where TRUNC(dep_date) = to_DATE(
'12-jan-2002','dd-mon-')

The execution plan for both the queries shows a FTS
on test_date1.

Execution Plan
   0  SELECT STATEMENT Optimizer=CHOOSE
   10   SORT (AGGREGATE)
   21 TABLE ACCESS (FULL) OF 'TEST_DATE1'

The number of rows to be retrieved are 120010.

The first query took 10msec to execute whereas the
second took about 2 
secs. 

Could anyone help me figure out what the problem
would be.

TIA

Best Regards
Jai
---
---

Which problem? I guess that, if the execution plans are identical, what you are 
experiencing is just the effect of caching. For a reason or another the data already 
was in memory in one case, and had to be loaded from disk in the other one. Check your 
trace statistics under SQL*Plus, logical IOs will probably be more or less identical 
and physical IOs wildly different.

Note that as long as you apply a function to dep_date, your only way to escape the FTS 
is (supposing 8.1.7 or above) function-based indexes. If dep_date is indexed, then you 
should use something like
   dep_date = some_date and dep_date  some_date + 1
instead of
trunc(dep_date) = some_date

It will allow for range scans.

Regards,

Stephane Faroult
Oriole
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RE: oracle version

2003-03-05 Thread Hatzistavrou John
From sql : select * from product_component_version;
It can either be shown when logging into sqlplus (check the headers).

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Hello All,

OS: Solaris
DB: Oracle

Can somebody tell me how to know in what version  or
patchset level the oracle home is ?

when I go and see in $ORACLE_HOME, I couldn't find
whether it is 8.1.7.3 , 8.1.7.4 or 8.1.7.0 or some
other.

How to know exactly at which version the $ORACLE_HOME
is?

Thanks and regards,
Srinivas

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Re: create control file failed

2003-03-05 Thread Jeremiah Wilton
So the obvious question:

What is the db_block_size and what is the size in bytes of
/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/audit_sis01.dbf as it was restored from
backup?

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On Wed, 5 Mar 2003, BanarasiBabu Tippa wrote:

 I am recreating the database from cold backup. But I am facing the following
 problem
  
 Oracle version : 8.1.7
 Environment : HP 
  
 SVRMGR CREATE CONTROLFILE REUSE SET DATABASE HTK443M8 RESETLOGS
 ARCHIVELOG
  2 MAXLOGFILES 32
  3 MAXLOGMEMBERS 2
  4 MAXDATAFILES 254
  5 MAXINSTANCES 8
  6 MAXLOGHISTORY 29041
  7 LOGFILE
  8   GROUP 1 '/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/redo01.log'  SIZE 500K,
  9   GROUP 2 '/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/redo02.log'  SIZE 500K,
 10   GROUP 3 '/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/redo03.log'  SIZE 500K,
 11   GROUP 4 '/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/redo04.log'  SIZE 500K
 12 DATAFILE
 13   '/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/system01.dbf',
 14   '/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/tools01.dbf',
 15   '/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/rbs01.dbf',
 16   '/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/temp01.dbf',
 17   '/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/users01.dbf',
 18   '/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/indx01.dbf',
 19   '/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/admin_01.dbf',
 20   '/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/bmpi_01.dbf',
 21   '/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/cnc_01.dbf',
 22   '/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/evnt_mast_01.dbf',
 23   '/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/evnt_othr_01.dbf',
 24   '/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/images_01.dbf',
 25   '/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/lists_01.dbf',
 26   '/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/matrl_01.dbf',
 27   '/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/audit_sis01.dbf',
 28   '/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/audit_sis_idx01.dbf',
 29   '/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/matrl_use_01.dbf',
 30   '/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/modules_01.dbf',
 31   '/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/obs_01.dbf',
 32   '/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/patients_01.dbf',
 33   '/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/pdt_01.dbf',
 34   '/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/personnel_01.dbf',
 35   '/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/quality_01.dbf',
 36   '/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/schedules_01.dbf',
 37   '/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/script_01.dbf',
 38   '/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/admin_idx_01.dbf',
 39   '/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/bmpi_idx_01.dbf',
 40   '/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/cnc_idx_01.dbf',
 41   '/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/rbs1_01.dbf',
 42   '/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/evnt_mast_idx_01.dbf',
 43   '/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/evnt_othr_idx_01.dbf',
 44   '/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/images_idx_01.dbf',
 45   '/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/lists_idx_01.dbf',
 46   '/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/matrl_idx_01.dbf',
 47   '/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/matrl_use_idx_01.dbf',
 48   '/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/modules_idx_01.dbf',
 49   '/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/rbs2_01.dbf',
 50   '/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/obs_idx_01.dbf',
 51   '/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/patients_idx_01.dbf',
 52   '/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/pdt_idx_01.dbf',
 53   '/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/personnel_idx_01.dbf',
 54   '/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/quality_idx_01.dbf',
 55   '/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/schedules_idx_01.dbf',
 56   '/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/script_idx_01.dbf',
 57   '/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/interface_01.dbf',
 58   '/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/drsys01.dbf',
 59   '/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/quest01.dbf',
 60   '/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/crystal_report_01.dbf',
 61   '/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/crystal_report_idx_01.dbf',
 62   '/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/interface_idx_01.dbf',
 63   '/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/sisweb_01.dbf',
 64   '/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/rules_engine_01.dbf'
 65 CHARACTER SET US7ASCII
 66 ;
 CREATE CONTROLFILE REUSE SET DATABASE HTK443M8 RESETLOGS ARCHIVELOG
 *
 ORA-01503: CREATE CONTROLFILE failed
 ORA-01565: error in identifying file
 '/oradba/oradata/HTK443M8/audit_sis01.dbf'
 ORA-27046: file size is not a multiple of logical block size
 Additional information: 1
 SVRMGR spool off
 
 I verified with metalink, It is saying this is due to incorrect
 DB_BLOCK_SIZE parameter. But I am sure there is no change in this parameter.

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Changing of trigger owner

2003-03-05 Thread sudhakar Reddy
hello,

Triggers were created in a user where synonyms of tables of other 
user s were existing. So i have to change owner of the trigger to 
the owner of the tables. Is it possible to change without dropping 
the triggers and recreating them.

Thanx,
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PL/SQL

2003-03-05 Thread Santosh Varma



Hello 
all,

 I wanted to know 
how to write scripts in PL/SQL. i mean how to start it ? directly write htem in 
sql SQL prompt itself ?
and any good sites 
on PL/SQL to learn ?



Thanks and Regards,
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RE: oracle version

2003-03-05 Thread Santosh Varma
select banner
from   sys.v_$version;

will give u the version number 

santosh

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sreenivasa
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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Hello All,

OS: Solaris
DB: Oracle

Can somebody tell me how to know in what version  or
patchset level the oracle home is ?

when I go and see in $ORACLE_HOME, I couldn't find
whether it is 8.1.7.3 , 8.1.7.4 or 8.1.7.0 or some
other.

How to know exactly at which version the $ORACLE_HOME
is?

Thanks and regards,
Srinivas

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Oracle 9i RAC on Windows using firewire

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Hi


We are not a Unix shop and would like to build a test setup of 9iRAC on
windows at the cheapest price.

I have a document that explains how to do it using SCSI disks but the parts
here are very expensive. I have heard that it is also possible to use
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this setup? Technet mentions this only for LINUX and not for Windowz

TIA

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RE: PL/SQL

2003-03-05 Thread Thomas, Kevin
You can enter them directly at the SQL prompt or you can store them in
database or keep them in files and run them with the @ command.
 
The choice is yours :O)
 
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Hello all,
 
   I wanted to know how to write scripts in PL/SQL. i mean how to start
it ? directly write htem in sql SQL prompt itself ?
and any good sites on PL/SQL to learn ?
 
Thanks and Regards,
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Geneva application

2003-03-05 Thread Hatzistavrou John
Title: Geneva application 






Hi,

I wish to hear from those that have been administrating Oracle instances of Geneva billing application.

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Re: PL/SQL

2003-03-05 Thread Jan Pruner
Use keyboard!


:-)
Use any text editor like vim or scite (synatax coloring is better) to write 
you script and save it to the file.
Then run your script from sqlplus prompt 
(sqlplus:@/home/...path and name of your file).

JP

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I wanted to know how to write scripts in PL/SQL. i mean how to start
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RE: Question related to security

2003-03-05 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
Title: RE: 9i OCP Upgrade Exam - Again



That 
would let the account see ANY table in the database, wouldn't 
it?

Pat.

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  grant select any table to your developer
  /
  
  Shouldn't this work?
  Raj
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Hi 
all -
I 
have an interesting problem at hand - we have a request from a developer 
that ask to access some tables owned by a user generated by third party app. 
Since I don't have the password for this user and system/sys do not have 
admin option on these tables, I can't grant select to the developer. 
Changing password for this app can be tricky and will be used as last 
resort. My question is is there anything else I can do to meet this 
request?

Thanks

Dennis


Access Internet Web pages from SQL or PL/SQL

2003-03-05 Thread Santosh Varma




i am getting the 
following error when i give the select statement..
what could be the 
reason ?

SQL select 
utl_http.request('http://www.orafaq.net/') from dual;select 
utl_http.request('http://www.orafaq.net/') from 
dual *ERROR at line 1:ORA-06510: 
PL/SQL: unhandled user-defined exceptionORA-06512: at "SYS.UTL_HTTP", line 
174ORA-06512: at line 1



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Santosh Varma




RE: Slow query

2003-03-05 Thread Naveen Nahata
A small follow up question:

Why will oracle do a to_date() on second query for each row returned, as the
date mentioned is a literal and doesn't change for the duration of the query.
Won't it be calculated once and used for all the rows with trunc() applied to
each row?

Regards
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Which version of Oracle ?

The second query has to do a trunc() and a to_date()
on every single row.  The first only has to do a to_char
on every single row.  There is a CPU difference between
the two queries and if you run the execution plan through
v9 with cpu_costing, you will find a difference in cost -
though probably not enough to agree with your clock test.

A simple test on 8.1.7.4 and 9.2.0.2 where I created a
table of 128,000 rows with a date column scattered inside
a single date showed that one query used about twice
the CPU of the other in v9, and four times in v8.  (Unfortunately,
in all cases, the CPU reported by Oracle was consistently larger
than the elapsed time reported by SQL*Plus).


First check, though, is the test repeatable, or did
something happen elsewhere to affect the elapsed time.
(e.g. was one tested subject to a lot of delayed block
cleanout).



NB - The execution plan shown is not the plan for either
of the two statements, and I am fairly sure that neither
statement could actually return 120,000 rows in 10 ms.
Do your timings refer to a test where you changed
the query to do a count() ?




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 Dear all,

 Please find below the 2 queries :

 select dep_date from test_date1
 where to_char(dep_date,'dd-mon-') = '12-jan-2002'

 select dep_date from test_date1
 where TRUNC(dep_date) = to_DATE( '12-jan-2002','dd-mon-')

 The execution plan for both the queries shows a FTS on test_date1.

 Execution Plan
 --
0  SELECT STATEMENT Optimizer=CHOOSE
10   SORT (AGGREGATE)
21 TABLE ACCESS (FULL) OF 'TEST_DATE1'

 The number of rows to be retrieved are 120010.

 The first query took 10msec to execute whereas the second took about
2
 secs.

 Could anyone help me figure out what the problem would be.

 TIA

 Best Regards
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Oracle Tools

2003-03-05 Thread Sultan



Hi gurus,

Is there any Oracle tools available to use it in 
Handheld Computers.(like PDA or IPAQ)

Thks in advance



8i databases under 9i listener?

2003-03-05 Thread Thomas Jeff
Title: 8i databases under 9i listener?





RS6000 running AIX 4.3.3. We are experiencing the following issues with 
our 8.1.7.4 databases under a 9.2.0.1 listener.


1) PL/SQL procedures utilizing UTL_FILE fail with INVALID_PATH errors when
 attempting to open a file.


2) Database links from WE8ISO8859P1 databases to UTF8 databases fail 
 with ORA-3113. Database links work fine as long as the character set
 is the same on both databases.


We've checked, and double-check, all environment variables, O/S permissions,
and so forth. Oracle Support has been basically useless. Eventually,
they stated that these problems are unique to the AIX platform, and not something 
that they've seen on HP or Solaris, and recommended running both the 8i and 
9i listeners, in other words, they had no clue. 


The sequence of events went like this:


Feb 7th -- 9.2.0.1 was installed on our test/development box, on which there
 are eight 8.1.7.4 instances running.


Feb 14th -- We startup the 9i listener and shutdown the 8i listener. 


Feb 21st -- First upgrade of an 8.1.7.4 database to 9.2.0.1. The upgrade was
 successful. 


The funny thing is that none of the 8.1.7.4 databases had any problems with the 
9i listener from Feb 14th to Feb 21st, either with UTL_FIL or with database links. 


But on Feb 21st, after the first 9.2.0.1 database upgrade, the 9i listener was 
bounced for the first time since it's inception, and then all the problems started. 


We are back to running both an 8i and 9i listener for the time being, but I have
a lurking suspicion that something is not right somewhere, and could come back
and bite us in the future. 
 




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Re: PL/SQL

2003-03-05 Thread Darrell Landrum
Aside from docs at technet.oracle.com, a perfect book for you is Beginning Oracle 
Programming, authored by Sean Dillon, Christopher Beck, and Tom Kyte.  (ISBN # 
1-861006-90-X)
This book sells for around $50.00 in the U.S., but it is one of the most useful books 
I ever purchased.

Darrell Landrum

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Hello all,

   I wanted to know how to write scripts in PL/SQL. i mean how to start
it ? directly write htem in sql SQL prompt itself ?
and any good sites on PL/SQL to learn ?

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Re: Oracle Tools

2003-03-05 Thread K Gopalakrishnan
Sulatan,

Have a look at xb.com. There is something called PocketDBA. 



KG

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Re: Oracle Tools

2003-03-05 Thread babu . nagarajan

Checkout Oracle Lite


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Re: Oracle 9i RAC on Windows using firewire

2003-03-05 Thread Ron Rogers
Jack,
 www.tusc.com  has a white paper that created a RAC with firewire and
RedHat8.0 /w kernell upgrade for under $1500.00. Authored by M.Ault and
presented at the SEOUG Conference last month. 
Ron

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We are not a Unix shop and would like to build a test setup of 9iRAC
on
windows at the cheapest price.

I have a document that explains how to do it using SCSI disks but the
parts
here are very expensive. I have heard that it is also possible to use
firewire disks to achieve the same. Does anybody have a document
detailing
this setup? Technet mentions this only for LINUX and not for Windowz

TIA

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PLSQL stored procedure

2003-03-05 Thread Adrian Ciocildau
Hi.

i need some help. i'm trying to get a stored  procedure source code from 
the database.

After a lot of reding i found :

select * from user_objects where object_type='PROCEDURE';

and i've got the name and Object_id of that prodedure but i have no 
ideea how to get the rest :(

please help,

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RE: Oracle Tools

2003-03-05 Thread Mark Leith
Hi Sultan,

Yes there is :)

PocketDBA is built exactly for this purpose, and at this time is the only
DBA specific tool that I have seen in the market - apart from the up and
coming EM2GO product, which AFAIK is not generally available yet.

Expand Beyond are the authors of PocketDBA, and have a world wide network of
resellers. You can locate your nearest reseller on their web site
http://www.xb.com. Their CEO is (was? I haven't seen you post in a while
Ari) a member of this list..

If you have any further questions about the tool that you want answered, you
can send me a mail off list if you like (we are Expand Beyond's UK
reseller).

Regards

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Apache and mod_plsql

2003-03-05 Thread Jay Hostetter
  We are running 9iAS.  If I understand this correctly, 9iAS is simply Apache with a 
PL/SQL module from Oracle.  Our management would like to save the Oracle Support 
dollars for 9iAS, so I am looking into alternatives.  We use the PL/SQL web packages, 
so my options are limited unless we choose to rewrite code. My questions are:

1) Is it possible to add the (or a) PL/SQL module to Apache without going through 
Oracle - or does the combination of the two simply give you 9iAS, which is an Oracle 
product?
2) Any comments or experience with DBPrism (http://www.plenix.com/dbprism/), which is 
the only possible alternative that I have found so far?

  I've been trying to read about modowa 
(http://www.sharemation.com/~dmcmahon/modowa.htm) but the server is down at the moment.

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Re: advanced replication knowledge resources

2003-03-05 Thread Yechiel Adar
Hello Robert

We are working with advance replication in 8.1.6.3.4.

You need the following in the instances:
global_names = true
unique global name in each database
job_queue_processes = 10 ( at least)
archive enabled

I will send you offline the script that I use to create replication.
It does all the job from start to end.

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 We'll need to set up multi-master replication between two 8.1.7 databases
within the next few months.  We're not experienced with replication beyond
relatively simple snapshots and snapshot groups.  Can anyone suggest good
training, web, and/or printed resources we can use to get up to speed?  I
see Oracle offers 2 distributed systems courses and the book Oracle
Distributed Systems by Charles Dye is available.  Any experience with these
references?  Thanks for you help.

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RE: Question related to security

2003-03-05 Thread Jay Hostetter
Why don't you use the trick for restoring the password?

select 'alter user APPUSER identified by values '''||password||''';'
from sys.dba_users
where username = 'APPUSER';

save the resulting alter user statement

Now, change the password for your third part vendor app, login as the user, grant the 
select on the tables (preferably to a role), log out, and change the password back to 
what it was.

Jay

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That would let the account see ANY table in the database, wouldn't it?
 
Pat.

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grant select any table to your developer
/
 
Shouldn't this work?
Raj
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Hi all -
I have an interesting problem at hand - we have a request from a developer
that ask to access some tables owned by a user generated by third party app.
Since I don't have the password for this user and system/sys do not have
admin option on these tables, I can't grant select to the developer.
Changing password for this app can be tricky and will be used as last
resort. My question is is there anything else I can do to meet this request?
 
Thanks
 
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Re:PLSQL stored procedure

2003-03-05 Thread dgoulet
Adrian,

Look in USER_SOURCE.  The TEXT field will have the source code.

Dick Goulet

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Hi.

i need some help. i'm trying to get a stored  procedure source code from 
the database.

After a lot of reding i found :

select * from user_objects where object_type='PROCEDURE';

and i've got the name and Object_id of that prodedure but i have no 
ideea how to get the rest :(


please help,

adrian


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Re[2]: PL/SQL

2003-03-05 Thread dgoulet
Santosh,

Add to that Oracle Builtin Packages from O'Reilly.

Dick Goulet

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Aside from docs at technet.oracle.com, a perfect book for you is Beginning
Oracle Programming, authored by Sean Dillon, Christopher Beck, and Tom Kyte. 
(ISBN # 1-861006-90-X)
This book sells for around $50.00 in the U.S., but it is one of the most useful
books I ever purchased.

Darrell Landrum

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/05/03 02:49AM 
Hello all,

   I wanted to know how to write scripts in PL/SQL. i mean how to start
it ? directly write htem in sql SQL prompt itself ?
and any good sites on PL/SQL to learn ?

Thanks and Regards,
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RE: Access Internet Web pages from SQL or PL/SQL

2003-03-05 Thread Jack van Zanen



Works 
for me.


  -Original Message-From: Santosh Varma 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: woensdag 5 maart 2003 
  13:05To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  Access Internet Web pages from SQL or PL/SQL
  
  i am getting the 
  following error when i give the select statement..
  what could be the 
  reason ?
  
  SQL select 
  utl_http.request('http://www.orafaq.net/') from dual;select 
  utl_http.request('http://www.orafaq.net/') from 
  dual *ERROR at line 
  1:ORA-06510: PL/SQL: unhandled user-defined exceptionORA-06512: at 
  "SYS.UTL_HTTP", line 174ORA-06512: at line 1
  
  
  
  Thanks and Regards,
  Santosh Varma
  
  


Re[2]: Oracle Tools

2003-03-05 Thread dgoulet
We had a look at PocketDBA a year ago.  Damn nice technology, problem we had was
access to the wireless services at the time.  They did not extend very far north
of Boston Ma.  Still don't get out to where we really need it, like the back
woods of NH.  It's a three tier sort of application.  You have a client piece on
your PDA, a server inside the firewall and then your databases.  You'll need an
encryption key to from someone (they specify sources) to run an encrypted SSL
connection.  NOTE: Use a fairly beefy machine for the internal server that
preferably has nothing else to do.

Dick Goulet

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Sulatan,

Have a look at xb.com. There is something called PocketDBA. 



KG

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Have a nice day !!

Best Regards,
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RMAN resync of catalog to controlfile

2003-03-05 Thread Joseph S Testa
Robert, and all of you other RMAN gurus.

scenario 1:  repository unavailable, so rman backup was done using 
controlfile only.  upon later successful connection to repository, the 
backup info was pushed from controlfile to repository(YEA).

scenario 2:  I have to rebuild the controlfile and have a rman 
repository.  so i do a resync in rman, rebuild the controlfile and 
connect back to repository, doing a resync HOPING that the controlfile 
gets updated with info from repository, no such luck.  I did a dump of 
the controlfile(via alter session set events 'immediate trace name 
controlf level 10'), looking for the section on BACKUP SET RECORDS and 
BACKUP PIECE RECORDS and there is nothing there.

so my question is this:  is the resync only a one way push, i 
understand oracle's mentality about not overwriting the backup records 
in the controlfile since that should be the true information, but is 
there a way to force oracle/rman to push the repository info back into 
the controlfile, i've not found a solution for this.

if anyone is interested in the dump files, let me know and i'll make 
them available on the web so you can see what I'm talking about.

thanks, joe




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Re: Oracle 9i RAC on Windows using firewire

2003-03-05 Thread Arup Nanda
Try OakTable Network. They have a paper on Windows RAC setup details.
http://www.oaktable.net/userFiles.jsp.

Arup Nanda
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 Hi


 We are not a Unix shop and would like to build a test setup of 9iRAC on
 windows at the cheapest price.

 I have a document that explains how to do it using SCSI disks but the
parts
 here are very expensive. I have heard that it is also possible to use
 firewire disks to achieve the same. Does anybody have a document detailing
 this setup? Technet mentions this only for LINUX and not for Windowz

 TIA

 Jacob A. van Zanen
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Re: PLSQL stored procedure

2003-03-05 Thread Jan Pruner
SYS.USER_SOURCE


JP

On Wednesday 05 March 2003 14:34, Adrian Ciocildau wrote:
 Hi.

 i need some help. i'm trying to get a stored  procedure source code from
 the database.

 After a lot of reding i found :

 select * from user_objects where object_type='PROCEDURE';

 and i've got the name and Object_id of that prodedure but i have no
 ideea how to get the rest :(


 please help,

 adrian

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Re: Oracle Tools

2003-03-05 Thread Arup Nanda



Sure, checkout the Oracle Lite from 
OTN.

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  AM
  Subject: Oracle Tools
  
  Hi gurus,
  
  Is there any Oracle tools available to use it in 
  Handheld Computers.(like PDA or IPAQ)
  
  Thks in advance
  


Re: PLSQL stored procedure

2003-03-05 Thread Todd Arave
select text
from dba_source --if you don't have access to dba_source try
all_source or user_source
where name = your source name here
/

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/05/03 06:34AM 
Hi.

i need some help. i'm trying to get a stored  procedure source code
from 
the database.

After a lot of reding i found :

select * from user_objects where object_type='PROCEDURE';

and i've got the name and Object_id of that prodedure but i have no 
ideea how to get the rest :(


please help,

adrian


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RE: Question related to security

2003-03-05 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: 9i OCP Upgrade Exam - Again



Pat,

You have twochoices ... 

1. either you log in as the schema and grant access to see selected 
tables
 This isn't possible (or is the last 
resort)

2. SELECT ANY
 Easy, but as you mention a potential security 
risk

When I have limited choices with a vendor app, I'd rather not mess with 
vendor code without their approval (please don't confuse this to my messing 
around with writing code to workaround Oracle bugs, thank 
you).

Raj
- 
Rajendra dot Jamadagni at espn dot 
com Any views expressed here are 
strictly personal. QOTD: Any clod can 
have facts, having an opinion is an art !! 

  -Original Message-From: Boivin, Patrice J 
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  RE: Question related to security
  That 
  would let the account see ANY table in the database, wouldn't 
  it?
  
  Pat.
  
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 
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ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Question related to 
security
grant select any table to your developer
/

Shouldn't this work?
Raj
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Rajendra dot Jamadagni at espn dot 
com Any views expressed here are 
strictly personal. QOTD: Any clod 
can have facts, having an opinion is an art !! 

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  ORACLE-LSubject: Question related to 
  security
  Hi all -
  I have an interesting problem at hand - we have a request from a 
  developer that ask to access some tables owned by a user generated by 
  third party app. Since I don't have the password for this user and 
  system/sys do not have admin option on these tables, I can't grant select 
  to the developer. Changing password for this app can be tricky and will be 
  used as last resort. My question is is there anything else I can do to 
  meet this request?
  
  Thanks
  
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RE: HP OpenView Service Desk

2003-03-05 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Ethan - We just have it in pilot with a single user, so I don't think that
will help you. 

Dennis Williams
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Anyone running Oracle to support HP OpenView Service Desk, would like to
know # of users supported, options and size of system?

Thanks,
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Re: DUMP FILE SIZE

2003-03-05 Thread Arup Nanda


Check Oracle 
MetaLink Note 108723.1. There seems to be a problem when a numeric value is 
specified for max_dump_file_size, rather than a K or M at the end. In short, 
change max_dump_file_size to 10K from 10240, bounce it and 
retry.HTH.Arup Nanda- Original Message - From: 
shuan.tay(PCI) To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: 
Tuesday, March 04, 2003 9:49 PMSubject: DUMP FILE SIZEDear 
all,There's a line in .trc file:"DUMP FILE SIZE IS LIMITED TO 0 
BYTES"."show parameter dump" in sqlplus 
output:NAME 
TYPE VALUE --- 
--background_core_dump 
string 
partialbackground_dump_dest 
string 
$ORACLE_HOME/rdbms/tracecore_dump_dest 
string 
?/dbsmax_dump_file_size 
string 
10240shadow_core_dump 
string 
PARTIALuser_dump_dest 
string $ORACLE_HOME/rdbms/traceThe value for max_dump_file_size is 
exactly same as 10240.So what's wrong with that?The directory permission 
for the dump destination is drwxr-xr-xBy the way,I'm using Oracle 
8.1.6 on Redhat 7.2Thanks in advance.


RE: Apache and mod_plsql

2003-03-05 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
The O'Reilly book Oracle and Open Source says DBPrism is a continuation of /
based on OWSKiller, and is one of the most astonishing success stories of
Java, Oracle, and open source cooperation. (p.299).

They explain how to install it, how to use it, adapters you can get for it,
including Cocoon (a Java publishing framework).
 
Pat.

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  We are running 9iAS.  If I understand this correctly, 9iAS is simply
Apache with a PL/SQL module from Oracle.  Our management would like to save
the Oracle Support dollars for 9iAS, so I am looking into alternatives.  We
use the PL/SQL web packages, so my options are limited unless we choose to
rewrite code. My questions are:

1) Is it possible to add the (or a) PL/SQL module to Apache without going
through Oracle - or does the combination of the two simply give you 9iAS,
which is an Oracle product?
2) Any comments or experience with DBPrism (http://www.plenix.com/dbprism/),
which is the only possible alternative that I have found so far?

  I've been trying to read about modowa
(http://www.sharemation.com/~dmcmahon/modowa.htm) but the server is down at
the moment.

Thank you,
Jay



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RE: PL/SQL

2003-03-05 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Santosh - I went to http://www.google.com http://www.google.com  and
searched for the terms PL/SQL tutorial. I received several
interesting-looking sites.



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Hello all,
 
   I wanted to know how to write scripts in PL/SQL. i mean how to start
it ? directly write htem in sql SQL prompt itself ?
and any good sites on PL/SQL to learn ?
 
Thanks and Regards,
Santosh 
 

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RE: Question related to security

2003-03-05 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Dennis - In reflecting on your question, I have to wonder whether you don't
have a larger problem. Since your email address doesn't end in cia.gov, I
have to ask whether you as a DBA can adequately manage this application. If
I were given this request, I would tell the developer let's go find the
person who can authorize your access and they will have the password. I
have forgotten the password for some userids, but I would be reluctant to
take responsibility for an application where we didn't have the password.
Just my 2 cents worth.



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Hi all -
I have an interesting problem at hand - we have a request from a developer
that ask to access some tables owned by a user generated by third party app.
Since I don't have the password for this user and system/sys do not have
admin option on these tables, I can't grant select to the developer.
Changing password for this app can be tricky and will be used as last
resort. My question is is there anything else I can do to meet this request?
 
Thanks
 
Dennis

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Re: Re[2]: Oracle Tools

2003-03-05 Thread Chuck Hamilton
Know what you mean about coverage. I was up at Bretton Woods NH skiing over
the Christmas holidays and couldn't get a cell phone to work until I at all.
Not sure if that was a bad thing though :-).

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 We had a look at PocketDBA a year ago.  Damn nice technology, problem we
had was
 access to the wireless services at the time.  They did not extend very far
north
 of Boston Ma.  Still don't get out to where we really need it, like the
back
 woods of NH.  It's a three tier sort of application.  You have a client
piece on
 your PDA, a server inside the firewall and then your databases.  You'll
need an
 encryption key to from someone (they specify sources) to run an encrypted
SSL
 connection.  NOTE: Use a fairly beefy machine for the internal server that
 preferably has nothing else to do.

 Dick Goulet

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 Sulatan,

 Have a look at xb.com. There is something called PocketDBA.



 KG

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  Is there any Oracle tools available to use it in Handheld
  Computers.(like PDA or IPAQ)
 
  Thks in advance
 
 


 =
 Have a nice day !!
 
 Best Regards,
 K Gopalakrishnan,
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RE: Oracle Tools

2003-03-05 Thread Mark Leith
What I meant to say was:

and at this time is the only DBA specific tool that I have seen in the
market for PDA technology

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Hi Sultan,

Yes there is :)

PocketDBA is built exactly for this purpose, and at this time is the only
DBA specific tool that I have seen in the market - apart from the up and
coming EM2GO product, which AFAIK is not generally available yet.

Expand Beyond are the authors of PocketDBA, and have a world wide network of
resellers. You can locate your nearest reseller on their web site
http://www.xb.com. Their CEO is (was? I haven't seen you post in a while
Ari) a member of this list..

If you have any further questions about the tool that you want answered, you
can send me a mail off list if you like (we are Expand Beyond's UK
reseller).

Regards

Mark

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Hi gurus,

Is there any Oracle tools available to use it in Handheld Computers.(like
PDA or IPAQ)

Thks in advance

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RE: Question related to security

2003-03-05 Thread Meng, Dennis
Title: RE: 9i OCP Upgrade Exam - Again



Grant select on all tables is 
not what we were looking for exactly because of the reason brought up by Pat. 
The following solution provided by Jacques solved the problem 
-

Execute Immediate is for Oracle 8.1 and later. 
In 7.3.4 you need to use the dbms_sql package for dynamic 
SQL. The procedure would be something like: 

create procedure third_party_app_user.grant_priv 
 (table_name_in in varchar2, privileges_in in 
varchar2, grantee_in varchar2) as  c_dynsql pls_integer ;  
ignore pls_integer ; begin  c_dynsql := dbms_sql.open_cursor ;  dbms_sql.parse (c_dynsql,  
'grant ' || privileges_in || ' on ' ||  
table_name_in || ' to ' || grantee_in,  
dbms_sql.native) ;  ignore := 
dbms_sql.execute (c_dynsql) ;  
dbms_sql.close_cursor (c_dynsql) ; exception 
 when others  
then  if dbms_sql.is_open 
(c_dynsql)  then 
 
dbms_sql.close_cursor (c_dynsql) ;  end if ;  raise ; end ; 
/ 

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  6:35 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  RE: Question related to security
  That 
  would let the account see ANY table in the database, wouldn't 
  it?
  
  Pat.
  
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security
grant select any table to your developer
/

Shouldn't this work?
Raj
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Rajendra dot Jamadagni at espn dot 
com Any views expressed here are 
strictly personal. QOTD: Any clod 
can have facts, having an opinion is an art !! 

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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 
  4:05 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-LSubject: Question related to 
  security
  Hi all -
  I have an interesting problem at hand - we have a request from a 
  developer that ask to access some tables owned by a user generated by 
  third party app. Since I don't have the password for this user and 
  system/sys do not have admin option on these tables, I can't grant select 
  to the developer. Changing password for this app can be tricky and will be 
  used as last resort. My question is is there anything else I can do to 
  meet this request?
  
  Thanks
  
  Dennis


RE: 8i databases under 9i listener?

2003-03-05 Thread Stephen Murphy
Title: Message



We 
are also finding difficulties with a mixed Oracle 
environment.

We 
are running AIX 4.3.3-ML10, Oracle 8.1.7.3-EE-64 bit, PeopleSoft 8.18 and moving 
to Oracle 9.2.0.2. In the past, when moving to a new Oracle release, we would 
install the software, upgrade our listener, and then start to upgrade our 
instances, one by one. This go around, after upgrading our listener to 9.2.0.2, 
when PeopleSoft tries to connect to a 8.1.7.3 database using the 9.2.0.2 
listener, the process fails with the message "ORA-01890 NLS error detected". 
This is happening both when a PS App Server is connecting to Oracle and when the 
PS client program connects in 2-tier mode. We didn't see this type of behavior 
with other tools (SQL+, Toad, etc.) connecting to Oracle, so we thought it was a 
PS problem and reported it to their support center without much progress. In the 
mean time, we have reconfigured so that we are now running 2 listeners on the 
box, one for Oracle 8i and one for Oracle 9iR2. So far, we have not found a 
problem with Oracle 9iR2 databases interacting with like listeners, but our 
testing continues.

If 
anyone else on this list can shine some light on this problem, please 
do.

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  RS6000 running AIX 
  4.3.3. We are experiencing the following issues with 
  our 8.1.7.4 databases under a 
  9.2.0.1 listener. 
  1) PL/SQL procedures utilizing UTL_FILE 
  fail with INVALID_PATH errors when  attempting to open a file. 
  2) Database links from WE8ISO8859P1 
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  long as the character set  is the same on both databases. 
  We've checked, and double-check, all 
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  useless. Eventually, they 
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  are eight 8.1.7.4 instances running. 
  Feb 14th -- We startup the 9i 
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  Feb 21st -- First upgrade of an 
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  successful. 
  The funny thing is that none of the 8.1.7.4 
  databases had any problems with the 9i listener from Feb 14th to Feb 21st, either with UTL_FIL or with 
  database links. 
  But on Feb 21st, after the first 9.2.0.1 
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RE: PLSQL stored procedure

2003-03-05 Thread Charu Joshi
Hi,

The query is:

SELECT text FROM user_source WHERE name = 'procname';

Regards,
Charu

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Hi.

i need some help. i'm trying to get a stored  procedure source code from
the database.

After a lot of reding i found :

select * from user_objects where object_type='PROCEDURE';

and i've got the name and Object_id of that prodedure but i have no
ideea how to get the rest :(

please help,

adrian

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RE: PLSQL stored procedure

2003-03-05 Thread Virk, Istifad

SELECT   line, text
FROM all_source
WHEREname = 'YOUR_PROC_NAME'
ORDER BY line

HTH
Istifad

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Hi.

i need some help. i'm trying to get a stored  procedure source code from 
the database.

After a lot of reding i found :

select * from user_objects where object_type='PROCEDURE';

and i've got the name and Object_id of that prodedure but i have no 
ideea how to get the rest :(


please help,

adrian


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Re: Oracle Internet File System

2003-03-05 Thread Hemant K Chitale
iFS 1.X.X and below is alternately with the 8.1.7 database and 9iAS 1.0.2.X

9iFS 9.0.1 is with the Database CD Pack {on a seperate CD}

9iFS 9.0.2 is part of 9iAS 9.0.2 {on a seperate CD}

9iFS 9.0.3 has been renamed as Oracle Files and is part of Oracle 
Collaboration Suite.

Check the MetaLink certification pages for
Internet File System  [which goes upto 9.0.1]
9i Internet Application Server  [where 9iFS 9.0.2 is listed under 
components for 9iAS 9.0.2]
Oracle Collaboration Suite [where Oracle Files 9.0.3 is listed under 
components for OCS 9.0.3]

Hemant
At 04:19 PM 04-03-03 -0800, you wrote:
I believe this is free with the Enterprise Edition of the database server, 
but I have not been able to confirm it.  There is certainly no iFS 
option.  Am I correct here or not?  Can anyone point me to an Oracle 
document saying it is free.

We are looking at collaboration tools such as SharePoint which takes a SQL 
Server back end.  Oracle is pushing Collaboration Suite, but I am wary 
of any first release from Oracle especially in an area where their success 
as been non-existent. I have not seen any specifications for what is 
needed and iFS may be satisfactory.

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Re: PLSQL stored procedure

2003-03-05 Thread Darrell Landrum
Look at user_source (or all_source if the procedure is in a different schema).
Then 
select text from user_source where name = 'YOURPROCNAME';



 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/05/03 07:34AM 
Hi.

i need some help. i'm trying to get a stored  procedure source code from 
the database.

After a lot of reding i found :

select * from user_objects where object_type='PROCEDURE';

and i've got the name and Object_id of that prodedure but i have no 
ideea how to get the rest :(


please help,

adrian


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Re: Changing of trigger owner

2003-03-05 Thread Arup Nanda
Sudhakar,

Unfortunately that's the only way to change teh trigger's ownership. But how
does it matter, if you drop and recreate the triggers in another schema?

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 hello,

 Triggers were created in a user where synonyms of tables of other
 user s were existing. So i have to change owner of the trigger to
 the owner of the tables. Is it possible to change without dropping
 the triggers and recreating them.

 Thanx,
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RE: PLSQL stored procedure

2003-03-05 Thread McBain, Neil SITI-ITDIEEE

select text from user_source where name = 'PROCEDURE_NAME' order by line;

you can do the same for functions, packages and types

select text from user_source where name = 'PACKAGE_NAME' and type =
'PACKAGE' order by line;
select text from user_source where name = 'PACKAGE_NAME' and type =
'PACKAGE BODY' order by line;

also can use dba_source.

Cheers,
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Hi.

i need some help. i'm trying to get a stored  procedure source code from 
the database.

After a lot of reding i found :

select * from user_objects where object_type='PROCEDURE';

and i've got the name and Object_id of that prodedure but i have no 
ideea how to get the rest :(


please help,

adrian


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Re: Re[2]: Oracle Tools

2003-03-05 Thread Chuck Hamilton
Also have a look at MobileLynX. Can't figure out for the life of me why the
don't advertise this thing. It does most if not all of what PocketDBA does
but is also user extensible. It's actually an XML engine but they provide
scripts for managing Unix and Oracle as part of the package. If you want to
add your own scripts you can. You can use ksh, sh, perl, or anything else
you want as long as you format the output as XML.

The URL is http://www.mobilelynx.com


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 We had a look at PocketDBA a year ago.  Damn nice technology, problem we
had was
 access to the wireless services at the time.  They did not extend very far
north
 of Boston Ma.  Still don't get out to where we really need it, like the
back
 woods of NH.  It's a three tier sort of application.  You have a client
piece on
 your PDA, a server inside the firewall and then your databases.  You'll
need an
 encryption key to from someone (they specify sources) to run an encrypted
SSL
 connection.  NOTE: Use a fairly beefy machine for the internal server that
 preferably has nothing else to do.

 Dick Goulet

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 Sulatan,

 Have a look at xb.com. There is something called PocketDBA.



 KG

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Re: PLSQL stored procedure

2003-03-05 Thread Morten Egan
Hi,

Take a look at:
   user_source
   all_source
   dba_source
or for actual table where it is stored, log in as sys and have a look a 
source$

Regards,
Morten Egan
Adrian Ciocildau wrote:

Hi.

i need some help. i'm trying to get a stored  procedure source code 
from the database.

After a lot of reding i found :

select * from user_objects where object_type='PROCEDURE';

and i've got the name and Object_id of that prodedure but i have no 
ideea how to get the rest :(

please help,

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Fine Grained Access Control (FGCA)

2003-03-05 Thread Murali Menon
Hi Guys,
I am trying to setup FGCA for our customers on their reporting system. I have got this working for a single table, however, when a policy needs to be added for multiple tables. It fails returning no rows from the second table.
Oracle documentation is not very helpful this arena. Can anyone provide any pointers to white papers or documents on this subject.
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RE: Oracle 9i RAC on Windows using firewire

2003-03-05 Thread Mark Leith
Jack,

Have you had a chat with Tom to see if they have upgraded the current $1000
RAC paper for windows? I think it was mentioned in the paper that they
planned to..

Mark

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Jack,
 www.tusc.com  has a white paper that created a RAC with firewire and
RedHat8.0 /w kernell upgrade for under $1500.00. Authored by M.Ault and
presented at the SEOUG Conference last month.
Ron

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/05/03 06:34AM 
Hi


We are not a Unix shop and would like to build a test setup of 9iRAC
on
windows at the cheapest price.

I have a document that explains how to do it using SCSI disks but the
parts
here are very expensive. I have heard that it is also possible to use
firewire disks to achieve the same. Does anybody have a document
detailing
this setup? Technet mentions this only for LINUX and not for Windowz

TIA

Jacob A. van Zanen
Oracle DBA


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RE: Question related to security

2003-03-05 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: 9i OCP Upgrade Exam - Again



I am surprised ... which user did you run this as? You mention in your 
original email that you don't jave the password for the owner and sys/system 
don't have admin rights ... 

Can you solve the puzzle? If you don't have privs with grant option, how 
could you grant it to someone else? plus this being dbms_sql, you need to have 
those privs directly granted to you ...

Raj
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  -Original Message-From: Meng, Dennis 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 9:35 
  AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: 
  Question related to security
  Grant select on all tables is 
  not what we were looking for exactly because of the reason brought up by Pat. 
  The following solution provided by Jacques solved the problem 
  -
  
  Execute Immediate is for Oracle 8.1 and later. 
  In 7.3.4 you need to use the dbms_sql package for dynamic 
  SQL. The procedure would be something like: 
  
  create procedure third_party_app_user.grant_priv 
   (table_name_in in varchar2, privileges_in in 
  varchar2, grantee_in varchar2) as  c_dynsql pls_integer ;  ignore pls_integer ; begin 
   c_dynsql := dbms_sql.open_cursor ; 
   dbms_sql.parse (c_dynsql, 
   
  'grant ' || privileges_in || ' on ' ||  
  table_name_in || ' to ' || grantee_in,  
  dbms_sql.native) ;  ignore := 
  dbms_sql.execute (c_dynsql) ;  
  dbms_sql.close_cursor (c_dynsql) ; exception 
   when others  
  then  if 
  dbms_sql.is_open (c_dynsql)  then  dbms_sql.close_cursor 
  (c_dynsql) ;  end if 
  ;  raise ; 
  end ; / 
  
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That would let the account see ANY table in the database, wouldn't 
it?

Pat.

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  grant select any table to your 
developer
  /
  
  Shouldn't this work?
  Raj
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  are strictly personal. QOTD: 
  Any clod can have facts, having an opinion is an art !! 
  
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Hi all -
I have an interesting problem at hand - we have a request from a 
developer that ask to access some tables owned by a user generated by 
third party app. Since I don't have the password for this user and 
system/sys do not have admin option on these tables, I can't grant 
select to the developer. Changing password for this app can be tricky 
and will be used as last resort. My question is is there anything else I 
can do to meet this request?

Thanks

Dennis
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How Reliable is Explain Plan in 9.2

2003-03-05 Thread Post, Ethan
Just had a fellow tell me that explain plan in completely unreliable in 9.2
and getting accurate results requires direct SGA access on executing SQL (he
is working in a RAC environment).  They are running Precise, a good product,
but this sounds like something a sales person told him.  I can only recall
that occasionally the plan executed is not the plan you see in explain plan.
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Re: Oracle Tools

2003-03-05 Thread Chuck Hamilton
BTW is 9i lite just a database engine for PDAs, or does it allow you to
administer databases over a network from a PDA?


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RE: PLSQL stored procedure

2003-03-05 Thread Paulo Gomes
u should use dbastudio

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Hi.

i need some help. i'm trying to get a stored  procedure source code from 
the database.

After a lot of reding i found :

select * from user_objects where object_type='PROCEDURE';

and i've got the name and Object_id of that prodedure but i have no 
ideea how to get the rest :(


please help,

adrian


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RE: advanced replication knowledge resources

2003-03-05 Thread Stephen Lee

One good book to have is Oracle Built-in Packages from O'Reilly.  It does
more than merely show the syntax for the packages, but shows how the
packages are used.  There is a chapter on Advanced Replication.  I have
found this book to be one of the more useful books that I have bought.
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RE: How Reliable is Explain Plan in 9.2

2003-03-05 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: How Reliable is Explain Plan in 9.2





Ethan,


I am *shocked* we are running RAC 9202 ...
I haven't seen anomalies ... does your friend have any example?


Raj
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QOTD: Any clod can have facts, having an opinion is an art !!



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Subject: How Reliable is Explain Plan in 9.2



Just had a fellow tell me that explain plan in completely unreliable in 9.2
and getting accurate results requires direct SGA access on executing SQL (he
is working in a RAC environment). They are running Precise, a good product,
but this sounds like something a sales person told him. I can only recall
that occasionally the plan executed is not the plan you see in explain plan.
Anyone know the truth of this issue?


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RE: advanced replication knowledge resources

2003-03-05 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Robert - 
   I have studied this issue quite a bit and my opinion (based on reading,
not experience) is that the success in replication is in the organization,
not the technology. The question is whether your organization and
application are ready for replication. It sounds like you have some
experience, so I will just recommend Marie Buretta's book Data Replication.
I have a checklist based on this book if you want to email me privately.

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We'll need to set up multi-master replication between two 8.1.7 databases
within the next few months.  We're not experienced with replication beyond
relatively simple snapshots and snapshot groups.  Can anyone suggest good
training, web, and/or printed resources we can use to get up to speed?  I
see Oracle offers 2 distributed systems courses and the book Oracle
Distributed Systems by Charles Dye is available.  Any experience with these
references?  Thanks for you help.

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Re: Oracle 9i RAC on Windows using firewire

2003-03-05 Thread Morten Egan
Hi,

It is true that the firewire stuff IS linux only. It was written by Wim 
Coekaerts (who I used to work together with in Oracle Dev.), who also 
wrote (together with his group) the cluster file system for linux. I 
haven't personally tried it yet, but an old collegue(sp?) of mine has 
tried it. Speedwise it still has some more ground to cover, but for a 
demo/test setup it's excellent and cheap.

Regards,
Morten
Jack van Zanen wrote:

Hi

We are not a Unix shop and would like to build a test setup of 9iRAC on
windows at the cheapest price.
I have a document that explains how to do it using SCSI disks but the parts
here are very expensive. I have heard that it is also possible to use
firewire disks to achieve the same. Does anybody have a document detailing
this setup? Technet mentions this only for LINUX and not for Windowz
TIA

Jacob A. van Zanen
Oracle DBA
 



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RE: Apache and mod_plsql

2003-03-05 Thread Gogala, Mladen
MOD_PLSQL is licensed under GPL and its home page
is on http://www.selfsoft.com/progs/mod_plsql
In my opinion Apache with PHP is equally good as mod_plsql.
The main advantage of the modules is that they become a part 
of Apache httpd process, so you don't have to go through CGI
and process switching, everything is handled within the httpd 
process.

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   We are running 9iAS.  If I understand this correctly, 9iAS 
 is simply Apache with a PL/SQL module from Oracle.  Our 
 management would like to save the Oracle Support dollars for 
 9iAS, so I am looking into alternatives.  We use the PL/SQL 
 web packages, so my options are limited unless we choose to 
 rewrite code. My questions are:
 
 1) Is it possible to add the (or a) PL/SQL module to Apache 
 without going through Oracle - or does the combination of the 
 two simply give you 9iAS, which is an Oracle product?
 2) Any comments or experience with DBPrism 
 (http://www.plenix.com/dbprism/), which is the only possible 
 alternative that I have found so far?
 
   I've been trying to read about modowa 
 (http://www.sharemation.com/~dmcmahon/modowa.htm) but the 
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Re: FW: oracle version

2003-03-05 Thread kommareddy sreenivasa
Hi,

I need it to check from O/S level. not from database
level.

can somebody give any hints.

Thanks and Regards,
Srinivas


 
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 From sql : select * from product_component_version;
 It can either be shown when logging into sqlplus
 (check the headers).
 
 Kind Regards,
 
 
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 Hello All,
 
 OS: Solaris
 DB: Oracle
 
 Can somebody tell me how to know in what version  or
 patchset level the oracle home is ?
 
 when I go and see in $ORACLE_HOME, I couldn't find
 whether it is 8.1.7.3 , 8.1.7.4 or 8.1.7.0 or some
 other.
 
 How to know exactly at which version the
 $ORACLE_HOME
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RE: RMAN resync of catalog to controlfile

2003-03-05 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Joe - I'm confused. If you rebuild the controlfile, what good is the backup
information stored in the catalog? Other than maybe deciding to revert to a
time before the rebuild, and you're going to need the catalog for that
anyway.

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Robert, and all of you other RMAN gurus.

scenario 1:  repository unavailable, so rman backup was done using 
controlfile only.  upon later successful connection to repository, the 
backup info was pushed from controlfile to repository(YEA).

scenario 2:  I have to rebuild the controlfile and have a rman 
repository.  so i do a resync in rman, rebuild the controlfile and 
connect back to repository, doing a resync HOPING that the controlfile 
gets updated with info from repository, no such luck.  I did a dump of 
the controlfile(via alter session set events 'immediate trace name 
controlf level 10'), looking for the section on BACKUP SET RECORDS and 
BACKUP PIECE RECORDS and there is nothing there.

so my question is this:  is the resync only a one way push, i 
understand oracle's mentality about not overwriting the backup records 
in the controlfile since that should be the true information, but is 
there a way to force oracle/rman to push the repository info back into 
the controlfile, i've not found a solution for this.

if anyone is interested in the dump files, let me know and i'll make 
them available on the web so you can see what I'm talking about.

thanks, joe




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Re[2]: Re[2]: Oracle Tools

2003-03-05 Thread dgoulet
Looks like the web site may be down.

Reply Separator
Author: Chuck Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:   3/5/2003 8:19 AM

Also have a look at MobileLynX. Can't figure out for the life of me why the
don't advertise this thing. It does most if not all of what PocketDBA does
but is also user extensible. It's actually an XML engine but they provide
scripts for managing Unix and Oracle as part of the package. If you want to
add your own scripts you can. You can use ksh, sh, perl, or anything else
you want as long as you format the output as XML.

The URL is http://www.mobilelynx.com


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 We had a look at PocketDBA a year ago.  Damn nice technology, problem we
had was
 access to the wireless services at the time.  They did not extend very far
north
 of Boston Ma.  Still don't get out to where we really need it, like the
back
 woods of NH.  It's a three tier sort of application.  You have a client
piece on
 your PDA, a server inside the firewall and then your databases.  You'll
need an
 encryption key to from someone (they specify sources) to run an encrypted
SSL
 connection.  NOTE: Use a fairly beefy machine for the internal server that
 preferably has nothing else to do.

 Dick Goulet

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 Sulatan,

 Have a look at xb.com. There is something called PocketDBA.



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RE: ORA-00018: maximum number of sessions exceeded

2003-03-05 Thread Hemant K Chitale
You can use LICENSE_MAX_SESSIONS to associate with your license,
although I don't know why you would want to do it if your database is 
in-house
[if you are an ASP you might want to restrict the number of sessions
running against the database on *your* server].

SESSIONS has nothing to do with License.  It is best left at its default
[ie NOT defined in the initSID.ora] whereby it becomes PROCESSES*1.1
Else, if you really do have multiple sessions, you could set it higher.
Hemant

At 06:58 AM 04-03-03 -0800, you wrote:

Tim and Dennis:  Thanks for your responses:



SVRMGR show parameter session

NAMETYPEVALUE

--- --- --

license_max_sessionsinteger 0

license_sessions_warninginteger 0

session_cached_cursors  integer 10

sessionsinteger 300

SVRMGR



The SESSION parameter is hard-coded in our init.ora file to the value 
300.  The value for PROCESSES is set to 512.  We have hard-coded our 
SESSION parameter because our number of licenses is set to 300 however, my 
intuition tells me that the SESSION parameter should not be set based on 
our number of licenses.  Can anybody confirm this for me?



I have also set up a TAR with Oracle Support, and they too say we need to 
increase the SESSION parameter (but we want to confirm it has no link to 
licenses).



Thanks again!



Sam Bootsma

416-415-5000 x4933





-Original Message-
From: Tim Gorman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: Re: ORA-00018: maximum number of sessions exceeded


I don't recall if the V$RESOURCE_LIMIT view existing in 7.3.4, but you 
might want to check.  It is a better diagnostic point for that particular 
resource...



The init.ora parameter SESSIONS is related to the ORA-00018 error 
message, not any of the licensing parameters.  Please use SHOW PARAMETER 
SESSIONS in SVRMGR to display its value.  Generally, people let the value 
of the SESSIONS parameter default to 1.1 * PROCESSES, but you can increase 
it if you like.



Hope this helps...
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From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sam Bootsma
To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 2:24 PM
Subject: ORA-00018: maximum number of sessions exceeded
We are running Oracle 7.3.4.5.0 on an IBM/AIX RISC System/6000: Version 
2.3.4.0.0.

This afternoon, our users started getting the error message ORA-00018: 
maximum number of sessions exceeded.   As time went on, the number of 
sessions was decreasing (as shown by the count of rows in 
v$session).  However, Oracle still did not allow connections.  This lasted 
for about 40 minutes.

The sessions parameter in the initialization parameter file showed 300.

Querying v$session showed 246 rows.

Querying v$license reported:
SQL select * from v$license;
SESSIONS_MAX SESSIONS_WARNING SESSIONS_CURRENT SESSIONS_HIGHWATER USERS_MAX
   -- -
   00  204248 0
There seems to be a contradiction here:  300 sessions in init.ora; 
sessions_highwater at 248, and Oracle not allowing connections because the 
maximum has been reached.

Has anybody encountered this problem before.  Is there a simple reason for 
this erratic behavior?

Management is looking for an answer as to why this has happened.  Thanks 
for any input!

Sam Bootsma
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Re:RE: How Reliable is Explain Plan in 9.2

2003-03-05 Thread dgoulet
Ethan,

Seeing as your friend is running Precise  I have heard similar
pronouncements from them about the accurracy of explain plan for several
versions of Oracle I'm not suprised.  True, they make a very nice product, but
them again explain plan is something they do themselves.  Yup, sounds like a
sales droid got to him.

Dick Goulet

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Ethan,

I am *shocked* we are running RAC 9202 ...
I haven't seen anomalies ... does your friend have any example?

Raj
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Just had a fellow tell me that explain plan in completely unreliable in 9.2
and getting accurate results requires direct SGA access on executing SQL (he
is working in a RAC environment).  They are running Precise, a good product,
but this sounds like something a sales person told him.  I can only recall
that occasionally the plan executed is not the plan you see in explain plan.
Anyone know the truth of this issue?

- Ethan 

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Oracle Bug Reports...

2003-03-05 Thread Jared . Still
... can be rather interesting at times, when there's time to check out a 
few.

http://metalink.oracle.com/metalink/plsql/showDoc?db=BUGid=2666174


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RE: RMAN resync of catalog to controlfile

2003-03-05 Thread Ron Yount
Joe,

Yes, to my knowledge, the resync is only intended to bring the repository up
to date with control file.  I doubt you will ever see the mechanism to
reverse this functionality (e.g. put backup records in the control file
after the fact) since when an entry is made in the control file, a counter
(control file sequence number if I remember correctly) is incremented
thereby giving a chronological state of the control file in the same sense
the SCN shows the status of oracle files.

HTH,
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Robert, and all of you other RMAN gurus.

scenario 1:  repository unavailable, so rman backup was done using 
controlfile only.  upon later successful connection to repository, the 
backup info was pushed from controlfile to repository(YEA).

scenario 2:  I have to rebuild the controlfile and have a rman 
repository.  so i do a resync in rman, rebuild the controlfile and 
connect back to repository, doing a resync HOPING that the controlfile 
gets updated with info from repository, no such luck.  I did a dump of 
the controlfile(via alter session set events 'immediate trace name 
controlf level 10'), looking for the section on BACKUP SET RECORDS and 
BACKUP PIECE RECORDS and there is nothing there.

so my question is this:  is the resync only a one way push, i 
understand oracle's mentality about not overwriting the backup records 
in the controlfile since that should be the true information, but is 
there a way to force oracle/rman to push the repository info back into 
the controlfile, i've not found a solution for this.

if anyone is interested in the dump files, let me know and i'll make 
them available on the web so you can see what I'm talking about.

thanks, joe




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RE: 8i databases under 9i listener?

2003-03-05 Thread Thomas Jeff
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We had something similar, but only when attempting a 
serverSQL+ connection, which I found was
due to someone messing up the ORA_NLS33 
setting.



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RE: 8i databases under 9i listener?
We 
are also finding difficulties with a mixed Oracle 
environment.

We 
are running AIX 4.3.3-ML10, Oracle 8.1.7.3-EE-64 bit, PeopleSoft 8.18 and moving 
to Oracle 9.2.0.2. In the past, when moving to a new Oracle release, we would 
install the software, upgrade our listener, and then start to upgrade our 
instances, one by one. This go around, after upgrading our listener to 9.2.0.2, 
when PeopleSoft tries to connect to a 8.1.7.3 database using the 9.2.0.2 
listener, the process fails with the message "ORA-01890 NLS error detected". 
This is happening both when a PS App Server is connecting to Oracle and when the 
PS client program connects in 2-tier mode. We didn't see this type of behavior 
with other tools (SQL+, Toad, etc.) connecting to Oracle, so we thought it was a 
PS problem and reported it to their support center without much progress. In the 
mean time, we have reconfigured so that we are now running 2 listeners on the 
box, one for Oracle 8i and one for Oracle 9iR2. So far, we have not found a 
problem with Oracle 9iR2 databases interacting with like listeners, but our 
testing continues.

If 
anyone else on this list can shine some light on this problem, please 
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  8i databases under 9i listener?
  RS6000 running AIX 
  4.3.3. We are experiencing the following issues with 
  our 8.1.7.4 databases under a 
  9.2.0.1 listener. 
  1) PL/SQL procedures utilizing UTL_FILE 
  fail with INVALID_PATH errors when  attempting to open a file. 
  2) Database links from WE8ISO8859P1 
  databases to UTF8 databases fail  with ORA-3113. Database links work fine as 
  long as the character set  is the same on both databases. 
  We've checked, and double-check, all 
  environment variables, O/S permissions, and so forth. Oracle Support has been basically 
  useless. Eventually, they 
  stated that these problems are unique to the AIX platform, and not something 
  that they've seen on HP or Solaris, 
  and recommended running both the 8i and 9i listeners, in other words, they had no clue. 
  The sequence of events went like 
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  Feb 7th -- 9.2.0.1 was 
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  are eight 8.1.7.4 instances running. 
  Feb 14th -- We startup the 9i 
  listener and shutdown the 8i listener. 
  Feb 21st -- First upgrade of an 
  8.1.7.4 database to 9.2.0.1. The upgrade was  
  successful. 
  The funny thing is that none of the 8.1.7.4 
  databases had any problems with the 9i listener from Feb 14th to Feb 21st, either with UTL_FIL or with 
  database links. 
  But on Feb 21st, after the first 9.2.0.1 
  database upgrade, the 9i listener was bounced for the first time since it's inception, and then all the 
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  We are back to running both an 8i and 9i 
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RE: Oracle Bug Reports...

2003-03-05 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: Oracle Bug Reports...





Thanks Jared for bringing this to our attention.. So many bugs .. how can we track 'em all?


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... can be rather interesting at times, when there's time to check out a few.


http://metalink.oracle.com/metalink/plsql/showDoc?db=BUG=2666174



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RE: RMAN resync of catalog to controlfile

2003-03-05 Thread Freeman Robert - IL
resync is only one way, unfortunatly. I don't know of any way to update the
control file with backup records from the recovery catalog.

RF

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Sent: 3/5/2003 8:19 AM

Robert, and all of you other RMAN gurus.

scenario 1:  repository unavailable, so rman backup was done using 
controlfile only.  upon later successful connection to repository, the 
backup info was pushed from controlfile to repository(YEA).

scenario 2:  I have to rebuild the controlfile and have a rman 
repository.  so i do a resync in rman, rebuild the controlfile and 
connect back to repository, doing a resync HOPING that the controlfile 
gets updated with info from repository, no such luck.  I did a dump of 
the controlfile(via alter session set events 'immediate trace name 
controlf level 10'), looking for the section on BACKUP SET RECORDS and 
BACKUP PIECE RECORDS and there is nothing there.

so my question is this:  is the resync only a one way push, i 
understand oracle's mentality about not overwriting the backup records 
in the controlfile since that should be the true information, but is 
there a way to force oracle/rman to push the repository info back into 
the controlfile, i've not found a solution for this.

if anyone is interested in the dump files, let me know and i'll make 
them available on the web so you can see what I'm talking about.

thanks, joe




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RE: How Reliable is Explain Plan in 9.2

2003-03-05 Thread Richard Ji
Consider how important explain plan is, I highly doubt
it's completely unreliable.

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Just had a fellow tell me that explain plan in completely unreliable in 9.2
and getting accurate results requires direct SGA access on executing SQL (he
is working in a RAC environment).  They are running Precise, a good product,
but this sounds like something a sales person told him.  I can only recall
that occasionally the plan executed is not the plan you see in explain plan.
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Re: Re[2]: Re[2]: Oracle Tools

2003-03-05 Thread Chuck Hamilton
Hmm, I'm not having any trouble getting to it.

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 Looks like the web site may be down.

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 Also have a look at MobileLynX. Can't figure out for the life of me why
the
 don't advertise this thing. It does most if not all of what PocketDBA does
 but is also user extensible. It's actually an XML engine but they provide
 scripts for managing Unix and Oracle as part of the package. If you want
to
 add your own scripts you can. You can use ksh, sh, perl, or anything else
 you want as long as you format the output as XML.

 The URL is http://www.mobilelynx.com


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  We had a look at PocketDBA a year ago.  Damn nice technology, problem we
 had was
  access to the wireless services at the time.  They did not extend very
far
 north
  of Boston Ma.  Still don't get out to where we really need it, like the
 back
  woods of NH.  It's a three tier sort of application.  You have a client
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  your PDA, a server inside the firewall and then your databases.  You'll
 need an
  encryption key to from someone (they specify sources) to run an
encrypted
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  connection.  NOTE: Use a fairly beefy machine for the internal server
that
  preferably has nothing else to do.
 
  Dick Goulet
 
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  Sulatan,
 
  Have a look at xb.com. There is something called PocketDBA.
 
 
 
  KG
 
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RE: PLSQL stored procedure

2003-03-05 Thread Nick Wagner
Title: RE: PLSQL stored procedure





our go get TOAD freeware... even has a line by line debugger with watches. 


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Look at user_source (or all_source if the procedure is in a different schema).
Then 
select text from user_source where name = 'YOURPROCNAME';




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Hi.


i need some help. i'm trying to get a stored procedure source code from 
the database.


After a lot of reding i found :


select * from user_objects where object_type='PROCEDURE';


and i've got the name and Object_id of that prodedure but i have no 
ideea how to get the rest :(



please help,


adrian



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Re: How Reliable is Explain Plan in 9.2

2003-03-05 Thread Wolfgang Breitling
Title: Re: How Reliable is Explain Plan in 9.2





Yes, explain plan will become increasingly unreliable as the cbo takes more 
and more factors and current conditions current into account. Some of the 
factors that can change the outcome of a parse from session to session are:


for Oracle 8
- different session parameters (db_file_multiblock_read_count, 
hash_multiblock_io_count, sort_area_size, hash_area_size)


for Oracle 9i additionally
- you can let Oracle dynamically set the sort_area_size and other memory 
parameters so you have a moving target now
- bind variable peeking - the first parse determines the plan for all 
following sql depending on its bind value
- system statistics in effect at the time of parse. If the system 
statistics get changed, existing plans do not get invalidated, but if you 
do an explain the cbo will use the current values
- dynamic sampling where the optimizer tries to improve on its estimates by 
sampling predicate values at the time of parsing.


from comments I heard, it will get worse (as far as explain differing 
from reality is concerned) with Oracle 10. The optimizer will try and learn 
from past executions of a sql and modify the plan if appropriate.


At 08:35 AM 3/5/2003 -0800, you wrote:
Just had a fellow tell me that explain plan in completely unreliable in 9.2
and getting accurate results requires direct SGA access on executing SQL (he
is working in a RAC environment). They are running Precise, a good product,
but this sounds like something a sales person told him. I can only recall
that occasionally the plan executed is not the plan you see in explain plan.
Anyone know the truth of this issue?



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OEM and monitoring clustered databases

2003-03-05 Thread Chuck Hamilton
I've had problems trying to use OEM (9.0.1) to monitor clustered databases.
The problem is that each database is set up in it's own resource group,
therefore each has it's own virtual hostname. Even though I may have several
databases all running on the same physical host, they all have different
virtual hostnames that move with the database when it fails over to another
node in the cluster. When you discover a node, it picks up all of the
databases on the node and registers them with the OMS as being on that node.
Once one of them fails over it's no longer on that node and can't be
monitored from OEM anymore. I'm sure others on this list are using this type
of failover for high availability. How did you get around it?


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RE: How Reliable is Explain Plan in 9.2

2003-03-05 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: Re: How Reliable is Explain Plan in 9.2



Wolfgang ...

Now that explain plan is unreliable and will be even more in10i, 
I'll always keep a silver dollar in my pocket. The coin toss is still 
right(in almost) 50% of the time.

Jeez ... what's next ... in 11i, SELECT statement *may* return data and 
in some cases would actually perform inserts into some other tables, because 
that's what you *wanted to do* anyways ... right?

I want my dBase IV back ...
Raj
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Rajendra dot Jamadagni at espn dot 
com Any views expressed here are 
strictly personal. QOTD: Any clod can 
have facts, having an opinion is an art !! 

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  How Reliable is Explain Plan in 9.2
  Yes, explain plan will become increasingly unreliable as the 
  cbo takes more and more factors and current conditions 
  current into account. Some of the factors that can 
  change the outcome of a parse from session to session are: 
  for Oracle 8 - different session 
  parameters (db_file_multiblock_read_count, hash_multiblock_io_count, sort_area_size, hash_area_size) 
  for Oracle 9i additionally - you can 
  let Oracle dynamically set the sort_area_size and other memory 
  parameters so you have a moving target now 
  - bind variable peeking - the first parse determines the plan 
  for all following sql depending on its bind 
  value - system statistics in effect at the time of 
  parse. If the system statistics get changed, existing 
  plans do not get invalidated, but if you do an explain 
  the cbo will use the current values - dynamic sampling 
  where the optimizer tries to improve on its estimates by sampling predicate values at the time of parsing. 
  from comments I heard, it will get "worse" (as far as explain 
  differing from reality is concerned) with Oracle 10. 
  The optimizer will try and learn from past executions 
  of a sql and modify the plan if appropriate. 
  At 08:35 AM 3/5/2003 -0800, you wrote: Just had a fellow tell me that explain plan in completely 
  unreliable in 9.2 and getting accurate results 
  requires direct SGA access on executing SQL (he is 
  working in a RAC environment). They are running Precise, a good 
  product, but this sounds like something a sales 
  person told him. I can only recall that 
  occasionally the plan executed is not the plan you see in explain plan. 
  Anyone know the truth of this issue? 
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Re: Metalink Oracle Support Improving.......

2003-03-05 Thread Yechiel Adar
Since I work in a bank, our security guy will flip if we suggest such an
option.

Yechiel Adar
Mehish
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 Today I found out that the OWS personnel can use 'Oracle Direct Connect'
to view your actions on the Client PC.

 One of our Developers resolved his problem, with PreCompilers, when the
support analyst 'saw' his actions via this tool.

 There is some information at http://metalink.oracle.com/odc/east (or
west)...


 - Kirti

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Re: Slow query

2003-03-05 Thread Jonathan Lewis

You would have thought to, but it
doesn't seem to be the case.

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 A small follow up question:

 Why will oracle do a to_date() on second query for each row
returned, as the
 date mentioned is a literal and doesn't change for the duration of
the query.
 Won't it be calculated once and used for all the rows with trunc()
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Re: How Reliable is Explain Plan in 9.2

2003-03-05 Thread Jonathan Lewis

I haven't seen any problems yet.
On the contrary - there are facilities
in the EXPLAIN PLAN which are not
available through v$sql_plan , such
as recursive SQL for subquery
factoring, and a couple of columns
(but I can't remember which ones
at the moment).


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 Just had a fellow tell me that explain plan in completely unreliable
in 9.2
 and getting accurate results requires direct SGA access on executing
SQL (he
 is working in a RAC environment).  They are running Precise, a good
product,
 but this sounds like something a sales person told him.  I can only
recall
 that occasionally the plan executed is not the plan you see in
explain plan.
 Anyone know the truth of this issue?

 - Ethan


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Re: Apache and mod_plsql

2003-03-05 Thread Michael Garfield Sørensen

If you don't plan to have many users, I think you could make do
with the Oracle HTTP Server (Powered by Apache) that comes
bundled with the database from 8.1.6 and onwards. No need
to rewrite any code, as it comes with mod_plsql and the 
PL/SQL Web Toolkit.

You could also consider ChangeGroup PL/SQL Server Pages
(see http://www.changegroup.biz/da/cgpsp.psp). That would
require a rewrite, but it shouldn't be that hard...

Regards,
Michael Garfield Sørensen, CeDeT


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 The O'Reilly book Oracle and Open Source says DBPrism is a continuation of /
 based on OWSKiller, and is one of the most astonishing success stories of
 Java, Oracle, and open source cooperation. (p.299).
 
 They explain how to install it, how to use it, adapters you can get for it,
 including Cocoon (a Java publishing framework).
  
 Pat.
 
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   We are running 9iAS.  If I understand this correctly, 9iAS is simply
 Apache with a PL/SQL module from Oracle.  Our management would like to save
 the Oracle Support dollars for 9iAS, so I am looking into alternatives.  We
 use the PL/SQL web packages, so my options are limited unless we choose to
 rewrite code. My questions are:
 
 1) Is it possible to add the (or a) PL/SQL module to Apache without going
 through Oracle - or does the combination of the two simply give you 9iAS,
 which is an Oracle product?
 2) Any comments or experience with DBPrism (http://www.plenix.com/dbprism/),
 which is the only possible alternative that I have found so far?
 
   I've been trying to read about modowa
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RE: RMAN resync of catalog to controlfile

2003-03-05 Thread Joseph S Testa
the catalog has all of the current backup info, so if i lose the 
repository(before taking a backup after rebuilding the controlfile), 
I'm SOL.  I logged a tar and oracle's response is, no way to push 
catalog info back into the controlfile.

joe


 Joe - I'm confused. If you rebuild the controlfile, what good is the 
backup
 information stored in the catalog? Other than maybe deciding to 
revert to a
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 Robert, and all of you other RMAN gurus.
 
 scenario 1:  repository unavailable, so rman backup was done using 
 controlfile only.  upon later successful connection to repository, 
the 
 backup info was pushed from controlfile to repository(YEA).
 
 scenario 2:  I have to rebuild the controlfile and have a rman 
 repository.  so i do a resync in rman, rebuild the controlfile and 
 connect back to repository, doing a resync HOPING that the 
controlfile 
 gets updated with info from repository, no such luck.  I did a dump 
of 
 the controlfile(via alter session set events 'immediate trace name 
 controlf level 10'), looking for the section on BACKUP SET RECORDS 
and 
 BACKUP PIECE RECORDS and there is nothing there.
 
 so my question is this:  is the resync only a one way push, i 
 understand oracle's mentality about not overwriting the backup 
records 
 in the controlfile since that should be the true information, but is 
 there a way to force oracle/rman to push the repository info back 
into 
 the controlfile, i've not found a solution for this.
 
 if anyone is interested in the dump files, let me know and i'll make 
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RE: RE: How Reliable is Explain Plan in 9.2

2003-03-05 Thread Post, Ethan
That is my thinking but I will take Wolfgang's comments into consideration.

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Ethan,

Seeing as your friend is running Precise  I have heard similar
pronouncements from them about the accurracy of explain plan for several
versions of Oracle I'm not suprised.  True, they make a very nice product,
but
them again explain plan is something they do themselves.  Yup, sounds like a
sales droid got to him.

Dick Goulet

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Ethan,

I am *shocked* we are running RAC 9202 ...
I haven't seen anomalies ... does your friend have any example?

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access to oracle $ tables in 9.2.0

2003-03-05 Thread Adams, Matthew (GECP, MABG, 088130)
Title: access to oracle $ tables in 9.2.0





Previously, an account with the DBA role could
directly query oracle's internal tables
(user$, seg$, ts$, etc). Now in 9.2.0.2,
it appears we can't. Does anybody know 
what version this changed in or where (or if)
it was documented. A quick search on 
MetaLink came up empty.


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Re: Oracle Tools

2003-03-05 Thread Morten Egan
9i lite is a light weight database for PDA's. I know that at one point 
Oracle was developing a DBA tool for PDA's, but I dont know the status 
of this product, or if it has been cancelled since then. But of course 
you can wait for EM in 10i which is browser based, so that should be 
able to run in the pocket version of internet explorer

Regards,
Morten Egan
Chuck Hamilton wrote:

BTW is 9i lite just a database engine for PDAs, or does it allow you to
administer databases over a network from a PDA?
 



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Re: How Reliable is Explain Plan in 9.2

2003-03-05 Thread Jonathan Lewis

I think there's a big emotional difference between
unreliable and won't necessarily give you the plan
under the current circumstances that it gave at the
time of execution - which has been true since the
utility came out.  It is true, of course, that the reasons
for the variation have become increasingly subtle -
but in theory the DBA should still be sufficiently in
control of all the necessary parameters to cater
for the likely variations.

Of course, when the real-time learning module get
included, then we're stuffed.



BTW -

 - system statistics in effect at the time of parse. If the system
 statistics get changed, existing plans do not get invalidated, but
if you
 do an explain the cbo will use the current values

I read this in the manuals recently - but the first time
I tested it, I got a plan invalidation, re-parse and new
execution path.



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 Yes, explain plan will become increasingly unreliable as the cbo
takes more
 and more factors and current conditions current into account. Some
of the
 factors that can change the outcome of a parse from session to
session are:

 for Oracle 8
 - different session parameters (db_file_multiblock_read_count,
 hash_multiblock_io_count, sort_area_size, hash_area_size)

 for Oracle 9i additionally
 - you can let Oracle dynamically set the sort_area_size and other
memory
 parameters so you have a moving target now
 - bind variable peeking - the first parse determines the plan for
all
 following sql depending on its bind value
 - system statistics in effect at the time of parse. If the system
 statistics get changed, existing plans do not get invalidated, but
if you
 do an explain the cbo will use the current values
 - dynamic sampling where the optimizer tries to improve on its
estimates by
 sampling predicate values at the time of parsing.

 from comments I heard, it will get worse (as far as explain
differing
 from reality is concerned) with Oracle 10. The optimizer will try
and learn
 from past executions of a sql and modify the plan if appropriate.

 At 08:35 AM 3/5/2003 -0800, you wrote:
 Just had a fellow tell me that explain plan in completely
unreliable in 9.2
 and getting accurate results requires direct SGA access on
executing SQL
 (he
 is working in a RAC environment).  They are running Precise, a good
 product,
 but this sounds like something a sales person told him.  I can only
recall
 that occasionally the plan executed is not the plan you see in
explain
 plan.
 Anyone know the truth of this issue?


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Monitoring/BA Tools

2003-03-05 Thread Niall Litchfield
Anyone use third party tools for monitoring Oracle (which I like to
think I'm not a complete novice at), *and* MSSQL (um which I am). I have
an unusual opportunity to buy third party software whilst we wait for
the MSSQL training to kick in and I'd like to buy something genuinely
useful for an experienced Oracle DBA dumped with 8 sqlservers ,
including a payroll system.Usefull not pretty would be my criteria -
though pretty BCHR graphs might convince the purse string holders that
they have a good deal as well. 

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RE: Oracle Bug Reports...

2003-03-05 Thread Jesse, Rich
No worries.  The bug says it's fixed in 10.0.  Just upgrade.  Anyone can do
it, since 10.0 removes the need for a DBA.

Whoa.  Gotta cut back on the black tea here...


Rich

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... can be rather interesting at times, when there's time to check out a 
few.

http://metalink.oracle.com/metalink/plsql/showDoc?db=BUGid=2666174

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Re: FW: oracle version

2003-03-05 Thread babu . nagarajan

did u try the inventory logs ?



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Hi,

I need it to check from O/S level. not from database
level.

can somebody give any hints.

Thanks and Regards,
Srinivas



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 From sql : select * from product_component_version;
 It can either be shown when logging into sqlplus
 (check the headers).

 Kind Regards,


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 OS: Solaris
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 Can somebody tell me how to know in what version  or
 patchset level the oracle home is ?

 when I go and see in $ORACLE_HOME, I couldn't find
 whether it is 8.1.7.3 , 8.1.7.4 or 8.1.7.0 or some
 other.

 How to know exactly at which version the
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Re: Apache and mod_plsql

2003-03-05 Thread Morten Egan




hmmm I remember something about licensing with Oracle HTTP Server. AFAIK
you are NOT allowed to use it for this kind of appl. I think you need to
buy the IAS.

Can anyone remember the specifics around this, or am I way off here?

/morten

Michael Garfield Srensen wrote:

  If you don't plan to have many users, I think you could make do
with the Oracle HTTP Server (Powered by Apache) that comes
bundled with the database from 8.1.6 and onwards. No need
to rewrite any code, as it comes with mod_plsql and the 
PL/SQL Web Toolkit.

You could also consider ChangeGroup PL/SQL Server Pages
(see http://www.changegroup.biz/da/cgpsp.psp). That would
require a rewrite, but it shouldn't be that hard...

Regards,
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The O'Reilly book Oracle and Open Source says DBPrism is a continuation of /
based on OWSKiller, and is "one of the most astonishing success stories of
Java, Oracle, and open source cooperation." (p.299).

They explain how to install it, how to use it, adapters you can get for it,
including Cocoon (a Java publishing framework).
 
Pat.

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  We are running 9iAS.  If I understand this correctly, 9iAS is simply
Apache with a PL/SQL module from Oracle.  Our management would like to save
the Oracle Support dollars for 9iAS, so I am looking into alternatives.  We
use the PL/SQL web packages, so my options are limited unless we choose to
rewrite code. My questions are:

1) Is it possible to add the (or "a") PL/SQL module to Apache without going
through Oracle - or does the combination of the two simply give you 9iAS,
which is an Oracle product?
2) Any comments or experience with DBPrism (http://www.plenix.com/dbprism/),
which is the only possible alternative that I have found so far?

  I've been trying to read about modowa
(http://www.sharemation.com/~dmcmahon/modowa.htm) but the server is down at
the moment.

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RE: How Reliable is Explain Plan in 9.2

2003-03-05 Thread Toepke, Kevin M
Title: Message



As far 
as I can tell, the Explain Plan is 100% reliable. It shows how the query would 
execute if it was run from that session at that momement in 
time.

If you 
want to see how a query in the SGA actually ran, query the 
Oracle9i v$sql_plan view.

Kevin

  
  -Original Message-From: Jamadagni, 
  Rajendra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 
  March 05, 2003 2:30 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-LSubject: RE: How Reliable is Explain Plan in 
  9.2
  Wolfgang ...
  
  Now that explain plan is unreliable and will be even more in10i, 
  I'll always keep a silver dollar in my pocket. The coin toss is still 
  right(in almost) 50% of the time.
  
  Jeez ... what's next ... in 11i, SELECT statement *may* return data and 
  in some cases would actually perform inserts into some other tables, because 
  that's what you *wanted to do* anyways ... right?
  
  I want my dBase IV back ...
  Raj
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  com Any views expressed here are 
  strictly personal. QOTD: Any clod 
  can have facts, having an opinion is an art !! 
  
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 
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9.2
Yes, explain plan will become increasingly unreliable as the 
cbo takes more and more factors and current 
conditions current into account. Some of the factors 
that can change the outcome of a parse from session to session are: 

for Oracle 8 - different session 
parameters (db_file_multiblock_read_count, hash_multiblock_io_count, sort_area_size, hash_area_size) 
for Oracle 9i additionally - you can 
let Oracle dynamically set the sort_area_size and other memory 
parameters so you have a moving target now 
- bind variable peeking - the first parse determines the 
plan for all following sql depending on its bind 
value - system statistics in effect at the time of 
parse. If the system statistics get changed, 
existing plans do not get invalidated, but if you do 
an explain the cbo will use the current values - 
dynamic sampling where the optimizer tries to improve on its estimates by 
sampling predicate values at the time of 
parsing. 
from comments I heard, it will get "worse" (as far as 
explain differing from reality is concerned) with 
Oracle 10. The optimizer will try and learn from 
past executions of a sql and modify the plan if appropriate. 
At 08:35 AM 3/5/2003 -0800, you wrote: Just had a fellow tell me that explain plan in completely 
unreliable in 9.2 and getting accurate results 
requires direct SGA access on executing SQL (he is working in a RAC environment). They are running Precise, 
a good product, but this sounds like something a 
sales person told him. I can only recall that occasionally the plan executed is not the plan you see in 
explain plan. Anyone know the truth of this 
issue? 
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Re: Apache and mod_plsql

2003-03-05 Thread Jay Hostetter
The problem with that idea is that the webserver portion will be installed in a DMZ, 
away from the database.   Which got me thinking...what if I just installed the http 
portion of the database install on the webserver box?  I would be using the http 
listener that comes with the database, but I wouldn't be using the database on the 
same machine.  I wonder what licensing issues that raises?

Jay

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/05/03 02:19PM 

If you don't plan to have many users, I think you could make do
with the Oracle HTTP Server (Powered by Apache) that comes
bundled with the database from 8.1.6 and onwards. No need
to rewrite any code, as it comes with mod_plsql and the 
PL/SQL Web Toolkit.

You could also consider ChangeGroup PL/SQL Server Pages
(see http://www.changegroup.biz/da/cgpsp.psp). That would
require a rewrite, but it shouldn't be that hard...

Regards,
Michael Garfield Sørensen, CeDeT


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 The O'Reilly book Oracle and Open Source says DBPrism is a continuation of /
 based on OWSKiller, and is one of the most astonishing success stories of
 Java, Oracle, and open source cooperation. (p.299).
 
 They explain how to install it, how to use it, adapters you can get for it,
 including Cocoon (a Java publishing framework).
  
 Pat.
 
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 Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 10:06 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
   We are running 9iAS.  If I understand this correctly, 9iAS is simply
 Apache with a PL/SQL module from Oracle.  Our management would like to save
 the Oracle Support dollars for 9iAS, so I am looking into alternatives.  We
 use the PL/SQL web packages, so my options are limited unless we choose to
 rewrite code. My questions are:
 
 1) Is it possible to add the (or a) PL/SQL module to Apache without going
 through Oracle - or does the combination of the two simply give you 9iAS,
 which is an Oracle product?
 2) Any comments or experience with DBPrism (http://www.plenix.com/dbprism/),
 which is the only possible alternative that I have found so far?
 
   I've been trying to read about modowa
 (http://www.sharemation.com/~dmcmahon/modowa.htm) but the server is down at
 the moment.
 
 Thank you,
 Jay






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RE: Oracle Bug Reports...

2003-03-05 Thread April Wells

Wait... I thought it was 9i that did away with the need for DBAs... 

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No worries.  The bug says it's fixed in 10.0.  Just upgrade.  Anyone can do
it, since 10.0 removes the need for a DBA.

Whoa.  Gotta cut back on the black tea here...


Rich

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... can be rather interesting at times, when there's time to check out a 
few.

http://metalink.oracle.com/metalink/plsql/showDoc?db=BUGid=2666174

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Date format is unreadable

2003-03-05 Thread Nguyen, David M








I try to query a report to check user activity but I could
not read date column. Is there a way to reformat the column to be
readable? Date colum calls "time_stamp" as shown below.



SQL desc user_activity_log


Name
Null?
Type 

-
 --

TIME_STAMP
NOT NULL NUMBER(20) 

NODE_NAME
NOT NULL VARCHAR2(20) 

USER_NAME
NOT NULL VARCHAR2(20) 

CLIENT_IP
NOT NULL VARCHAR2(15) 

DESCRIPTION
NOT NULL VARCHAR2(2048)





SQL select user_name,client_ip,node_name,time_stamp from user_activity_log

 where
user_name = 'admin'

 order
by time_stamp;



USER_NAME
CLIENT_IP
NODE_NAME TIME_STAMP


---  --

admin
NA
Insight Server 1.0397E+12

admin
NA
Insight Server 1.0402E+12

admin
NA
Insight Server 1.0433E+12










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