OT RE: organizational culture / RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney
Jaren, clue me in. what's the metric? -Original Message- To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: 6/6/2001 2:20 AM On Tuesday 05 June 2001 11:13, Post, Ethan wrote: I say we all go to Steve's house and play a game of Survivor to see who the most powerfull DBA in the world is. ^^ Mladen would win. Jared -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mohan, Ross INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: organizational culture / RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney
On Tue, 5 Jun 2001,Jared Still scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: -On Tuesday 05 June 2001 11:13, Post, Ethan wrote: - I say we all go to Steve's house and play a game of Survivor to see who - the most powerfull DBA in the world is. - ^^ - -Mladen would win. - -Jared - - that would depend on the game of survivor we played.;-) i do admit to having soem experience at it.;-) -- Bill Shrek Thater Certifiable ORACLE DBA Telergy, Inc.[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~ You gotta program like you don't need the money, You gotta compile like you'll never get hurt, You gotta run like there's nobody watching, It's gotta come from the heart if you want it to work. ~~ You have junk mail. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Thater, William INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: organizational culture / RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney
Well it is dependent on the type of game, I admit. Mladen is a (large) former Greco Roman wrestler, so if it's physical, he's got a good chance. Jared On Wednesday 06 June 2001 05:55, Thater, William wrote: On Tue, 5 Jun 2001,Jared Still scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: -On Tuesday 05 June 2001 11:13, Post, Ethan wrote: - I say we all go to Steve's house and play a game of Survivor to see who - the most powerfull DBA in the world is. - ^^ - -Mladen would win. - -Jared - - that would depend on the game of survivor we played.;-) i do admit to having soem experience at it.;-) -- Bill Shrek Thater Certifiable ORACLE DBA Telergy, Inc.[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~ You gotta program like you don't need the money, You gotta compile like you'll never get hurt, You gotta run like there's nobody watching, It's gotta come from the heart if you want it to work. ~~ You have junk mail. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: organizational culture / RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney
On Wed, 6 Jun 2001,Jared Still scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: - -Well it is dependent on the type of game, I admit. - -Mladen is a (large) former Greco Roman wrestler, -so if it's physical, he's got a good chance. - -Jared size is not everything, sheer evil helps a lot.;-) as well as fear.;-) -- Bill Shrek Thater Certifiable ORACLE DBA Telergy, Inc.[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~ You gotta program like you don't need the money, You gotta compile like you'll never get hurt, You gotta run like there's nobody watching, It's gotta come from the heart if you want it to work. ~~ Everything should be made as simple as possible...but not simpler. - Albert Einstein -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Thater, William INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: OT RE: organizational culture / RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney
On Wed, 6 Jun 2001,[EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled on the wall in...: -And ammunition... ammunition? we don't need no stinkin' ammunition.;-) -- Bill Shrek Thater Certifiable ORACLE DBA Telergy, Inc.[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~ You gotta program like you don't need the money, You gotta compile like you'll never get hurt, You gotta run like there's nobody watching, It's gotta come from the heart if you want it to work. ~~ Everything should be made as simple as possible...but not simpler. - Albert Einstein -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Thater, William INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney
Wow, this is like telephone. How rumors start fast. Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if both are frozen. Christopher R. Spence Oracle DBA Fuelspot -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 6:14 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Just wondering if Steve joined TUSC, will there be no Steve Adams on the list and ixora on the net?? -Original Message- To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 12:52 AM Hi All, No, I'm waiting for Henry to announce the details of the commercial DBA union! The pre-announcement is at http://www.lazydba.com/xcomment.pl?discussions:6 @ Regards, @ Steve Adams @ http://www.ixora.com.au/ @ http://www.christianity.net.au/ PS. This is a joke for the benefit of those who have been following the LazyDBA issues. -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, 6 June 2001 0:35 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L What about Steve Adams, does somebody know whether he joined some big company also? -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Steve Adams INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: KC INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Christopher Spence INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
OT RE: organizational culture / RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney
And ammunition... Scott Shafer San Antonio, TX 210-581-6217 And no amount of training or preparedness can eliminate the almost certainty that in the middle of your Angry Crane stance, as you transition to your Combative Monkey to administer the Coup de Grâce via your Ninja Death Touch, you step on a beer bottle and fall backwards into the juke box and get your head stove in by a drunk with a pool cue. --Jay Trigg -Original Message- From: Thater, William [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 10:52 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: organizational culture / RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney On Wed, 6 Jun 2001,Jared Still scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: - -Well it is dependent on the type of game, I admit. - -Mladen is a (large) former Greco Roman wrestler, -so if it's physical, he's got a good chance. - -Jared size is not everything, sheer evil helps a lot.;-) as well as fear.;-) -- Bill Shrek Thater Certifiable ORACLE DBA Telergy, Inc.[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~ You gotta program like you don't need the money, You gotta compile like you'll never get hurt, You gotta run like there's nobody watching, It's gotta come from the heart if you want it to work. ~~ Everything should be made as simple as possible...but not simpler. - Albert Einstein -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Thater, William INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT RE: organizational culture / RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney
Gee, thanks! Well, work and laziness has kept me out of the gym for a month now, but let me get a competition cycle started and get back to you... ;-) Scott Shafer San Antonio, TX -Original Message- From: Koivu, Lisa [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 2:47 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: OT RE: organizational culture / RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney Come on guys. If it's physical strength none of you stand up to Todd Bunge or Scott Shafer. Or me for that matter :) -Original Message- From: Mohan, Ross [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 9:11 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject:OT RE: organizational culture / RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney Jaren, clue me in. what's the metric? -Original Message- To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: 6/6/2001 2:20 AM On Tuesday 05 June 2001 11:13, Post, Ethan wrote: I say we all go to Steve's house and play a game of Survivor to see who the most powerfull DBA in the world is. ^^ Mladen would win. Jared -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT RE: organizational culture / RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney
Title: RE: OT RE: organizational culture / RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney Come on guys. If it's physical strength none of you stand up to Todd Bunge or Scott Shafer. Or me for that matter :) -Original Message- From: Mohan, Ross [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 9:11 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: OT RE: organizational culture / RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney Jaren, clue me in. what's the metric? -Original Message- To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: 6/6/2001 2:20 AM On Tuesday 05 June 2001 11:13, Post, Ethan wrote: I say we all go to Steve's house and play a game of Survivor to see who the most powerfull DBA in the world is. ^^ Mladen would win. Jared -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mohan, Ross INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT RE: organizational culture / RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney
On Wed, 6 Jun 2001,Koivu, Lisa scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: -Come on guys. If it's physical strength none of you stand up to Todd -Bunge or Scott Shafer. Or me for that matter :) old evil and twisted beats young and strong anyday.;-) -- Bill Shrek Thater Certifiable ORACLE DBA Telergy, Inc.[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~ You gotta program like you don't need the money, You gotta compile like you'll never get hurt, You gotta run like there's nobody watching, It's gotta come from the heart if you want it to work. ~~ Everything should be made as simple as possible...but not simpler. - Albert Einstein -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Thater, William INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT RE: organizational culture / RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney
Apparently, the WKG (Wanton Kickboxing Goddess) is not dead, just incognito. Todd Carlson Oracle 8i Certified DBA Bunge North America Koivu, Lisa To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L lisa.koivu@efair[EMAIL PROTECTED] field.com cc: Sent by: Subject: RE: OT RE: organizational culture / RE: TUSC [EMAIL PROTECTED] and Kevin Loney 06/06/2001 02:47 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L Come on guys. If it's physical strength none of you stand up to Todd Bunge or Scott Shafer. Or me for that matter :) -Original Message- From: Mohan, Ross [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 9:11 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject:OT RE: organizational culture / RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney Jaren, clue me in. what's the metric? -Original Message- To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: 6/6/2001 2:20 AM On Tuesday 05 June 2001 11:13, Post, Ethan wrote: I say we all go to Steve's house and play a game of Survivor to see who the most powerfull DBA in the world is. ^^ Mladen would win. Jared -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mohan, Ross INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT RE: organizational culture / RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney
What about young, strong, evil, and twisted? evil grin Scott Shafer San Antonio, TX -Original Message- From: Thater, William [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 3:03 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: OT RE: organizational culture / RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney On Wed, 6 Jun 2001,Koivu, Lisa scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: -Come on guys. If it's physical strength none of you stand up to Todd -Bunge or Scott Shafer. Or me for that matter :) old evil and twisted beats young and strong anyday.;-) -- Bill Shrek Thater Certifiable ORACLE DBA -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT RE: organizational culture / RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney
On Wed, 6 Jun 2001,[EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled on the wall in...: -What about young, strong, evil, and twisted? evil grin that's what DU rounds are for.;-) -- Bill Shrek Thater Certifiable ORACLE DBA Telergy, Inc.[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~ You gotta program like you don't need the money, You gotta compile like you'll never get hurt, You gotta run like there's nobody watching, It's gotta come from the heart if you want it to work. ~~ Everything should be made as simple as possible...but not simpler. - Albert Einstein -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Thater, William INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT RE: organizational culture / RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney
A really fat and angry crane - just ask my duhvelopers! LOL!!! Scott Shafer San Antonio, TX 210-581-6217 And no amount of training or preparedness can eliminate the almost certainty that in the middle of your Angry Crane stance, as you transition to your Combative Monkey to administer the Coup de Grâce via your Ninja Death Touch, you step on a beer bottle and fall backwards into the juke box and get your head stove in by a drunk with a pool cue. --Jay Trigg -Original Message- From: Weaver, Walt [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 3:46 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: OT RE: organizational culture / RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney Say, isn't it Shafer who for a time had something in his sig about an angry crane stance? I wouldn't mess with anybody who walked around looking like an angry crane. --Walt Weaver Bozeman, Montana, USA -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney
HELP -Original Message- Sent: 05 June 2001 00:36 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Who is Kevin Loney? -Original Message- Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 6:55 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Can't let that happen! If that happened, there would be Tusc DB 1.0 and all us oracle guru's will be useless against that product. Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if both are frozen. Christopher R. Spence Oracle DBA Fuelspot -Original Message- Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 6:27 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L And tusc has a partnership w/ quest. Weird. tusc does a lot of their recruiting at Barnes and Noble. I think Steve Adams is on the hit list. From: Rachel Carmichael [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TUSC and Kevin Loney Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 12:36:50 -0800 and Steven Feuerstein works for Quest From: Ron Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TUSC and Kevin Loney Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 12:02:09 -0800 I just had a meeting with the TUSC organization in Atlanta GA. and Mike Ault now works for TUSC also. Ron Rogers ROR mª¿ªm [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/04/01 02:51PM I guess I am the last to discover this, but Kevin now works for TUSC. Patrice Boivin Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) Systems Admin Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes Technology Services| Services technologiques Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique Maritimes Region, DFO | Région des Maritimes, MPO E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Boivin, Patrice J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Ron Rogers INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mike Killough INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Christopher Spence INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from
RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney
If Quest and TUSC are attracting a number of high-profile people, they will probably survive the recession. : ) TUSC says they recently expanded, they used to be only in Chicago I think. They opened an office in Atlanta, and they have another one somewhere. I don't know as much about Quest. So what does this mean for O'Reilly Publishers, if all these good authors now fall under the wing of database consulting firms? Quest through O'Reilly, and TUSC through Oracle Press? Steven Feuerstein used to publish via O'Reilly. Regards, Patrice Boivin Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) Systems Admin Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes Technology Services| Services technologiques Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique Maritimes Region, DFO | Région des Maritimes, MPO E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: John Kanagaraj [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 9:16 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject:RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney And tusc has a partnership w/ quest. Weird. tusc does a lot of their recruiting at Barnes and Noble. I think Steve Adams is on the hit list. As far as I am aware, some of the very respectable 'big guns' at Quest are: Gaja, Eyal Aronoff, Guy Harrison (yes - the one from the 'Oracle SQL tuning' fame), Steven Feuerstein (of PL/SQL fame), And now, as TUSC are: Rich Niemiec (President IOUG-A?), Kevin Loney, Mike Ault, ... So is this coalition a viable alternative to the all-knowing Oracle Support Services? John Kanagaraj -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: John Kanagaraj INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Boivin, Patrice J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney
they aren't broken down quite like that -- Gaja works for Quest but is published by Oracle Press, Mike Ault is published by neither... From: Boivin, Patrice J [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 03:45:24 -0800 If Quest and TUSC are attracting a number of high-profile people, they will probably survive the recession. : ) TUSC says they recently expanded, they used to be only in Chicago I think. They opened an office in Atlanta, and they have another one somewhere. I don't know as much about Quest. So what does this mean for O'Reilly Publishers, if all these good authors now fall under the wing of database consulting firms? Quest through O'Reilly, and TUSC through Oracle Press? Steven Feuerstein used to publish via O'Reilly. Regards, Patrice Boivin Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) Systems Admin Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes Technology Services| Services technologiques Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique Maritimes Region, DFO | Région des Maritimes, MPO E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: John Kanagaraj [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 9:16 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject:RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney And tusc has a partnership w/ quest. Weird. tusc does a lot of their recruiting at Barnes and Noble. I think Steve Adams is on the hit list. As far as I am aware, some of the very respectable 'big guns' at Quest are: Gaja, Eyal Aronoff, Guy Harrison (yes - the one from the 'Oracle SQL tuning' fame), Steven Feuerstein (of PL/SQL fame), And now, as TUSC are: Rich Niemiec (President IOUG-A?), Kevin Loney, Mike Ault, ... So is this coalition a viable alternative to the all-knowing Oracle Support Services? John Kanagaraj -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: John Kanagaraj INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Boivin, Patrice J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney
On Mon, 4 Jun 2001,Ari D Kaplan scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: -At TUSC, there are more authors than Rich Niemiec, Mike Ault, and Kevin -Loney. There are also Brad Brown, Joe Trezzo, Tony Catalano. - --Ari well, damn there goes any hope of me getting in with TUSC.;-) -- Bill Shrek Thater Certifiable ORACLE DBA Telergy, Inc.[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~ You gotta program like you don't need the money, You gotta compile like you'll never get hurt, You gotta run like there's nobody watching, It's gotta come from the heart if you want it to work. ~~ Fig Newton: The force required to accelerate a fig 39.37 inches/sec. -- J. Hart -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Thater, William INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
OT: TUSC and Kevin Loney
What about Steve Adams, does somebody know whether he joined some big company also? -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Verzonden: dinsdag 5 juni 2001 15:31 Aan: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Onderwerp: RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney they aren't broken down quite like that -- Gaja works for Quest but is published by Oracle Press, Mike Ault is published by neither... From: Boivin, Patrice J [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 03:45:24 -0800 If Quest and TUSC are attracting a number of high-profile people, they will probably survive the recession. : ) TUSC says they recently expanded, they used to be only in Chicago I think. They opened an office in Atlanta, and they have another one somewhere. I don't know as much about Quest. So what does this mean for O'Reilly Publishers, if all these good authors now fall under the wing of database consulting firms? Quest through O'Reilly, and TUSC through Oracle Press? Steven Feuerstein used to publish via O'Reilly. Regards, Patrice Boivin Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) Systems Admin Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes Technology Services| Services technologiques Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique Maritimes Region, DFO | Région des Maritimes, MPO E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: John Kanagaraj [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 9:16 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject:RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney And tusc has a partnership w/ quest. Weird. tusc does a lot of their recruiting at Barnes and Noble. I think Steve Adams is on the hit list. As far as I am aware, some of the very respectable 'big guns' at Quest are: Gaja, Eyal Aronoff, Guy Harrison (yes - the one from the 'Oracle SQL tuning' fame), Steven Feuerstein (of PL/SQL fame), And now, as TUSC are: Rich Niemiec (President IOUG-A?), Kevin Loney, Mike Ault, ... So is this coalition a viable alternative to the all-knowing Oracle Support Services? John Kanagaraj -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: John Kanagaraj INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Boivin, Patrice J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jeroen van Sluisdam INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from
Re: OT: TUSC and Kevin Loney
as far as I know, Steve still works for Ixora, which is his own company From: Jeroen van Sluisdam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: TUSC and Kevin Loney Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 06:35:30 -0800 What about Steve Adams, does somebody know whether he joined some big company also? -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Verzonden: dinsdag 5 juni 2001 15:31 Aan: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Onderwerp: RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney they aren't broken down quite like that -- Gaja works for Quest but is published by Oracle Press, Mike Ault is published by neither... From: Boivin, Patrice J [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 03:45:24 -0800 If Quest and TUSC are attracting a number of high-profile people, they will probably survive the recession. : ) TUSC says they recently expanded, they used to be only in Chicago I think. They opened an office in Atlanta, and they have another one somewhere. I don't know as much about Quest. So what does this mean for O'Reilly Publishers, if all these good authors now fall under the wing of database consulting firms? Quest through O'Reilly, and TUSC through Oracle Press? Steven Feuerstein used to publish via O'Reilly. Regards, Patrice Boivin Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) Systems Admin Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes Technology Services| Services technologiques Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique Maritimes Region, DFO | Région des Maritimes, MPO E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: John Kanagaraj [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 9:16 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject:RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney And tusc has a partnership w/ quest. Weird. tusc does a lot of their recruiting at Barnes and Noble. I think Steve Adams is on the hit list. As far as I am aware, some of the very respectable 'big guns' at Quest are: Gaja, Eyal Aronoff, Guy Harrison (yes - the one from the 'Oracle SQL tuning' fame), Steven Feuerstein (of PL/SQL fame), And now, as TUSC are: Rich Niemiec (President IOUG-A?), Kevin Loney, Mike Ault, ... So is this coalition a viable alternative to the all-knowing Oracle Support Services? John Kanagaraj -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: John Kanagaraj INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Boivin, Patrice J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L
RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney
Hi All, No, I'm waiting for Henry to announce the details of the commercial DBA union! The pre-announcement is at http://www.lazydba.com/xcomment.pl?discussions:6 @ Regards, @ Steve Adams @ http://www.ixora.com.au/ @ http://www.christianity.net.au/ PS. This is a joke for the benefit of those who have been following the LazyDBA issues. -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, 6 June 2001 0:35 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L What about Steve Adams, does somebody know whether he joined some big company also? -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Steve Adams INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney
Title: RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney So is Rachel, but last I heard she wasn't taking them too seriously. R. Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Meddle not in the affairs of troff, for it is subtle and quick to anger. -Original Message- From: Mike Killough [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 6:27 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: TUSC and Kevin Loney And tusc has a partnership w/ quest. Weird. tusc does a lot of their recruiting at Barnes and Noble. I think Steve Adams is on the hit list. From: Rachel Carmichael [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TUSC and Kevin Loney Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 12:36:50 -0800 and Steven Feuerstein works for Quest From: Ron Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TUSC and Kevin Loney Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 12:02:09 -0800 I just had a meeting with the TUSC organization in Atlanta GA. and Mike Ault now works for TUSC also. Ron Rogers ROR mª¿ªm [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/04/01 02:51PM I guess I am the last to discover this, but Kevin now works for TUSC. Patrice Boivin Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) Systems Admin Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes Technology Services | Services technologiques Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique Maritimes Region, DFO | Région des Maritimes, MPO E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Boivin, Patrice J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Ron Rogers INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mike Killough INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney
Fine. Rachel works for CattleButt || -Original Message- || From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] || Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 10:15 PM || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || Subject: Re: OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney || || || the heck you say! Good chocolate or none at all... Callebrut || || || || From: Mohan, Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] || Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] || Subject: OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney || Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 13:27:38 -0800 || || And Rachel works for Godiva. || || || -Original Message- || || From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] || || Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 4:37 PM || || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || || Subject: Re: TUSC and Kevin Loney || || || || || || and Steven Feuerstein works for Quest || || || || || || From: Ron Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || Subject: Re: TUSC and Kevin Loney || || Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 12:02:09 -0800 || || || || I just had a meeting with the TUSC organization in Atlanta || || GA. and Mike || || Ault now works for TUSC also. || || Ron Rogers || || ROR mª¿ªm || || || || [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/04/01 02:51PM || || I guess I am the last to discover this, but Kevin now works || || for TUSC. || || || || || || Patrice Boivin || || Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) || || || || Systems Admin Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes || || Technology Services| Services technologiques || || Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique || || Maritimes Region, DFO | Région des Maritimes, MPO || || || || E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] || || || || -- || || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com || || -- || || Author: Boivin, Patrice J || ||INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || || || Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: || (858) 538-5051 || || San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / || || Mailing Lists || || || || || To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an || E-Mail message || || to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of || 'ListGuru') and in || || the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L || || (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed || from). You may || || also send the HELP command for other information (like || subscribing). || || || || -- || || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com || || -- || || Author: Ron Rogers || ||INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || || || Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: || (858) 538-5051 || || San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / || || Mailing Lists || || || || || To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an || E-Mail message || || to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of || 'ListGuru') and in || || the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L || || (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed || from). You may || || also send the HELP command for other information (like || subscribing). || || || || _ || || Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com || || || || -- || || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com || || -- || || Author: Rachel Carmichael || || INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || || || Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: || (858) 538-5051 || || San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / || || Mailing Lists || || || || || To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message || || to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of || 'ListGuru') and in || || the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L || || (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed || from). You may || || also send the HELP command for other information (like || subscribing). || || || -- || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com || -- || Author: Mohan, Ross ||INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 || San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / || Mailing Lists || || To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message || to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in || the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L || (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may || also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing
RE: OT: TUSC and Kevin Loney
...and, unless TUSC wants to open an office in Australia...or Steve wants to move to the States... but why are WE talking about Steve's career decisions?? -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 11:00 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L as far as I know, Steve still works for Ixora, which is his own company From: Jeroen van Sluisdam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: TUSC and Kevin Loney Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 06:35:30 -0800 What about Steve Adams, does somebody know whether he joined some big company also? -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Verzonden: dinsdag 5 juni 2001 15:31 Aan: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Onderwerp: RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney they aren't broken down quite like that -- Gaja works for Quest but is published by Oracle Press, Mike Ault is published by neither... From: Boivin, Patrice J [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 03:45:24 -0800 If Quest and TUSC are attracting a number of high-profile people, they will probably survive the recession. : ) TUSC says they recently expanded, they used to be only in Chicago I think. They opened an office in Atlanta, and they have another one somewhere. I don't know as much about Quest. So what does this mean for O'Reilly Publishers, if all these good authors now fall under the wing of database consulting firms? Quest through O'Reilly, and TUSC through Oracle Press? Steven Feuerstein used to publish via O'Reilly. Regards, Patrice Boivin Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) Systems Admin Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systemes Technology Services| Services technologiques Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique Maritimes Region, DFO | Region des Maritimes, MPO E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: John Kanagaraj [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 9:16 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject:RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney And tusc has a partnership w/ quest. Weird. tusc does a lot of their recruiting at Barnes and Noble. I think Steve Adams is on the hit list. As far as I am aware, some of the very respectable 'big guns' at Quest are: Gaja, Eyal Aronoff, Guy Harrison (yes - the one from the 'Oracle SQL tuning' fame), Steven Feuerstein (of PL/SQL fame), And now, as TUSC are: Rich Niemiec (President IOUG-A?), Kevin Loney, Mike Ault, ... So is this coalition a viable alternative to the all-knowing Oracle Support Services? John Kanagaraj -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: John Kanagaraj INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Boivin, Patrice J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT
O'Reilly, was Re[2]: TUSC and Kevin Loney
Tuesday, June 05, 2001, 7:45:23 AM, Patrice Boivin wrote: BPJ So what does this mean for O'Reilly Publishers, if all these good authors BPJ now fall under the wing of database consulting firms? Quest through BPJ O'Reilly, and TUSC through Oracle Press? Steven Feuerstein used to publish BPJ via O'Reilly. I work for O'Reilly Associates now, so I can speak to this question somewhat. I honestly don't see that all this means much of anything to us. Most authors with a good publisher relationship will continue to write for their current publisher. Steven, for example, is currently working on some projects with us. I wouldn't expect to see Kevin Looney or Guy Harrison or any other author change publishers just because they went to work for a different consulting company. It's interesting though, that companies such as TUSC and Quest seem to have targeted high-profile Oracle authors. Aside from the fact that Kevin Looney and others are very good at what they do, I expect there's a significant marketing advantage to having an author or two on staff. Back when I worked for KPMG, I was once sent to create and manage a database for a troubled project. The fact that I had written a book went over very well with the client, and generally seemed to smooth my road. For example, non-technical client managers paid attention to me, and I was able to cut through the beaurocracy and get things done. Was I really any better than any other competent DBA? Probably not. My books just gave me instant credibility with management. I don't think Kevin Looney will spend all his time in the backroom wrestling with the software. He'll be out in front, dealing directly with clients, and selling his firm. Best regards, Jonathan Gennick mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * 906.387.1698 http://Gennick.com * http://MichiganWaterfalls.com * http://MetalDrums.org -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jonathan Gennick INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney
Steve Adams works for Barnes and Noble partnering with Quest and TUSC? What about Rachel? || -Original Message- || From: Mike Killough [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] || Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 6:27 PM || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || Subject: Re: TUSC and Kevin Loney || || || And tusc has a partnership w/ quest. Weird. tusc does a lot of their || recruiting at Barnes and Noble. I think Steve Adams is on || the hit list. || || || From: Rachel Carmichael [EMAIL PROTECTED] || Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] || Subject: Re: TUSC and Kevin Loney || Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 12:36:50 -0800 || || and Steven Feuerstein works for Quest || || || From: Ron Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] || Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] || Subject: Re: TUSC and Kevin Loney || Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 12:02:09 -0800 || || I just had a meeting with the TUSC organization in Atlanta || GA. and Mike || Ault now works for TUSC also. || Ron Rogers || ROR mª¿ªm || || [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/04/01 02:51PM || I guess I am the last to discover this, but Kevin now || works for TUSC. || || || Patrice Boivin || Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) || || Systems Admin Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes || Technology Services| Services technologiques || Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique || Maritimes Region, DFO | Région des Maritimes, MPO || || E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] || || -- || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com || -- || Author: Boivin, Patrice J ||INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 || San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / || Mailing Lists || --- || - || To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message || to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in || the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L || (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may || also send the HELP command for other information (like || subscribing). || || -- || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com || -- || Author: Ron Rogers ||INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 || San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / || Mailing Lists || --- || - || To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message || to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in || the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L || (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may || also send the HELP command for other information (like || subscribing). || || _ || Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com || || -- || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com || -- || Author: Rachel Carmichael || INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 || San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / || Mailing Lists || || To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message || to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in || the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L || (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may || also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). || || _ || Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com || || -- || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com || -- || Author: Mike Killough || INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 || San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / || Mailing Lists || || To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message || to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in || the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L || (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may || also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). || -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mohan, Ross INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists
RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney
I usually read books that have different material than Oracle Documentation. -Original Message- Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 9:40 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Oracle8/8i DBA Handbook Author visit www.kevinloney.com He is pretty good in Oracle . - SathishB - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 7:35 PM Who is Kevin Loney? -Original Message- Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 6:55 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Can't let that happen! If that happened, there would be Tusc DB 1.0 and all us oracle guru's will be useless against that product. Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if both are frozen. Christopher R. Spence Oracle DBA Fuelspot -Original Message- Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 6:27 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L And tusc has a partnership w/ quest. Weird. tusc does a lot of their recruiting at Barnes and Noble. I think Steve Adams is on the hit list. From: Rachel Carmichael [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TUSC and Kevin Loney Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 12:36:50 -0800 and Steven Feuerstein works for Quest From: Ron Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TUSC and Kevin Loney Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 12:02:09 -0800 I just had a meeting with the TUSC organization in Atlanta GA. and Mike Ault now works for TUSC also. Ron Rogers ROR mª¿ªm [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/04/01 02:51PM I guess I am the last to discover this, but Kevin now works for TUSC. Patrice Boivin Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) Systems Admin Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes Technology Services| Services technologiques Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique Maritimes Region, DFO | Région des Maritimes, MPO E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Boivin, Patrice J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Ron Rogers INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mike Killough INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http
RE: OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney
Title: RE: OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney Come on, Ross. The real question is who do YOU work for. Are you an idiot? Lisa Koivu Oracle Database Administrator 954-935-4117 The information in the electronic mail message is Cendant confidential and may be legally privileged, it is intended solely for the addressee(s) access to this internet electronic mail message by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it is prohibited and may be unlawful. The sender believes that this E-mail and any attachments were free of any virus, worm, Trojan horse, and/or malicious code when sent. This message and its attachments could have been infected during transmission. By reading the message and opening any attachments, the recipient accepts full responsibility for taking protective and remedial action about viruses and other defects. Cendant Corporation or Affiliates are not liable for any loss or damage arising in any way from this message or its attachments. -Original Message- From: Mohan, Ross [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 11:57 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney Steve Adams works for Barnes and Noble partnering with Quest and TUSC? What about Rachel? || -Original Message- || From: Mike Killough [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] || Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 6:27 PM || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || Subject: Re: TUSC and Kevin Loney || || || And tusc has a partnership w/ quest. Weird. tusc does a lot of their || recruiting at Barnes and Noble. I think Steve Adams is on || the hit list. || || || From: Rachel Carmichael [EMAIL PROTECTED] || Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] || Subject: Re: TUSC and Kevin Loney || Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 12:36:50 -0800 || || and Steven Feuerstein works for Quest || || || From: Ron Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] || Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] || Subject: Re: TUSC and Kevin Loney || Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 12:02:09 -0800 || || I just had a meeting with the TUSC organization in Atlanta || GA. and Mike || Ault now works for TUSC also. || Ron Rogers || ROR mª¿ªm || || [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/04/01 02:51PM || I guess I am the last to discover this, but Kevin now || works for TUSC. || || || Patrice Boivin || Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) || || Systems Admin Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes || Technology Services | Services technologiques || Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique || Maritimes Region, DFO | Région des Maritimes, MPO || || E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] || || -- || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com || -- || Author: Boivin, Patrice J || INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 || San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / || Mailing Lists || --- || - || To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message || to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in || the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L || (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may || also send the HELP command for other information (like || subscribing). || || -- || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com || -- || Author: Ron Rogers || INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 || San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / || Mailing Lists || --- || - || To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message || to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in || the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L || (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may || also send the HELP command for other information (like || subscribing). || || _ || Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com || || -- || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com || -- || Author: Rachel Carmichael || INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 || San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / || Mailing Lists || || To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message || to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in || the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L || (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may || also
RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney
Quite interesting, can I join as well? Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if both are frozen. Christopher R. Spence Oracle DBA Fuelspot -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 11:21 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi All, No, I'm waiting for Henry to announce the details of the commercial DBA union! The pre-announcement is at http://www.lazydba.com/xcomment.pl?discussions:6 @ Regards, @ Steve Adams @ http://www.ixora.com.au/ @ http://www.christianity.net.au/ PS. This is a joke for the benefit of those who have been following the LazyDBA issues. -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, 6 June 2001 0:35 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L What about Steve Adams, does somebody know whether he joined some big company also? -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Steve Adams INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Christopher Spence INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney
On Tue, 5 Jun 2001,Mohan, Ross scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: -Fine. - -Rachel works for CattleButt ZOT ;-) -- Bill Shrek Thater Certifiable ORACLE DBA Telergy, Inc.[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~ You gotta program like you don't need the money, You gotta compile like you'll never get hurt, You gotta run like there's nobody watching, It's gotta come from the heart if you want it to work. ~~ You might have mail. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Thater, William INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney
Do we get a bumper sticker? : ) Patrice Boivin Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) -Original Message- From: Christopher Spence [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 1:21 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject:RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney Quite interesting, can I join as well? Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if both are frozen. Christopher R. Spence Oracle DBA Fuelspot -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 11:21 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi All, No, I'm waiting for Henry to announce the details of the commercial DBA union! The pre-announcement is at http://www.lazydba.com/xcomment.pl?discussions:6 @ Regards, @ Steve Adams @ http://www.ixora.com.au/ @ http://www.christianity.net.au/ PS. This is a joke for the benefit of those who have been following the LazyDBA issues. -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, 6 June 2001 0:35 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L What about Steve Adams, does somebody know whether he joined some big company also? -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Steve Adams INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Christopher Spence INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Boivin, Patrice J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney
if you say so :) From: Mohan, Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 08:01:28 -0800 Fine. Rachel works for CattleButt || -Original Message- || From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] || Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 10:15 PM || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || Subject: Re: OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney || || || the heck you say! Good chocolate or none at all... Callebrut || || || || From: Mohan, Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] || Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] || Subject: OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney || Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 13:27:38 -0800 || || And Rachel works for Godiva. || || || -Original Message- || || From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] || || Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 4:37 PM || || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || || Subject: Re: TUSC and Kevin Loney || || || || || || and Steven Feuerstein works for Quest || || || || || || From: Ron Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || Subject: Re: TUSC and Kevin Loney || || Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 12:02:09 -0800 || || || || I just had a meeting with the TUSC organization in Atlanta || || GA. and Mike || || Ault now works for TUSC also. || || Ron Rogers || || ROR mª¿ªm || || || || [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/04/01 02:51PM || || I guess I am the last to discover this, but Kevin now works || || for TUSC. || || || || || || Patrice Boivin || || Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) || || || || Systems Admin Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes || || Technology Services| Services technologiques || || Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique || || Maritimes Region, DFO | Région des Maritimes, MPO || || || || E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] || || || || -- || || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com || || -- || || Author: Boivin, Patrice J || ||INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || || || Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: || (858) 538-5051 || || San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / || || Mailing Lists || || || || || To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an || E-Mail message || || to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of || 'ListGuru') and in || || the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L || || (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed || from). You may || || also send the HELP command for other information (like || subscribing). || || || || -- || || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com || || -- || || Author: Ron Rogers || ||INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || || || Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: || (858) 538-5051 || || San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / || || Mailing Lists || || || || || To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an || E-Mail message || || to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of || 'ListGuru') and in || || the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L || || (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed || from). You may || || also send the HELP command for other information (like || subscribing). || || || || _ || || Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com || || || || -- || || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com || || -- || || Author: Rachel Carmichael || || INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || || || Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: || (858) 538-5051 || || San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / || || Mailing Lists || || || || || To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message || || to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of || 'ListGuru') and in || || the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L || || (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed || from). You may || || also send the HELP command for other information (like || subscribing). || || || -- || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com || -- || Author: Mohan, Ross ||INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 || San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / || Mailing Lists || || To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message || to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in || the message BODY, include a line
Re: TUSC and Kevin Loney
TUSC has also had an office in the Denver CO area for a few years now. -Don Granaman [Certifiable OraSaurus] - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 6:45 AM If Quest and TUSC are attracting a number of high-profile people, they will probably survive the recession. : ) TUSC says they recently expanded, they used to be only in Chicago I think. They opened an office in Atlanta, and they have another one somewhere. I don't know as much about Quest. So what does this mean for O'Reilly Publishers, if all these good authors now fall under the wing of database consulting firms? Quest through O'Reilly, and TUSC through Oracle Press? Steven Feuerstein used to publish via O'Reilly. Regards, Patrice Boivin Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) [... snipped] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Don Granaman INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney
http://www.ahsc.arizona.edu/uac/iacuc/cattle/occup.shtml --- excerpt --- ... STEPS TO PREVENT DISEASE TRANSMISSION FROM ANIMALS TO MAN 1.Wash your hands with soap and water after handling animals, manure or urine, or animal products such as: milk, meat, wool, rumen samples, blood, fluids draining from wounds and placental membranes. 2.Never eat or drink in areas where animals, animal wastes, or animal products are being handled. 3.Never drink milk which has not been pasteurized. Never eat meat which has not been inspected by the U.S.D.A. 4.Report all suspected sick animals as soon as possible so that the Farm Animal Veterinarian may determine the cause of the illness and implement any additional protective steps. 5.It is best to wear a designated pair of shoes and jeans or coveralls while working at the farm (don't wear these items elsewhere). Clean the shoes very well before getting into car to go home-remove manure with brush and spray with commercial disinfectant. Wash coveralls separate from family wash, or have farm unit do the washing. ... --- end --- On 5 Jun 2001, at 9:47, Rachel Carmichael wrote: if you say so :) From: Mohan, Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 08:01:28 -0800 Fine. Rachel works for CattleButt -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Eric D. Pierce INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
organizational culture / RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney
Steve, LWD have mercy! If the DBA union develops in the same unenlightened, dysfunctional context (large amounts of pointless/unproductive tribalistic squabbling bickering over trivial b.s., etc.) as have events on hazyDBA, I'm sure it will be a huge success (sarcasm intended). Even in the non-profit sector, people are expected to understand the dynamics of managing the organizational culture of a group. There has been a lot of research done on computer mediated communication, communities of practice, the inherent capacity of people to become self-learning/self-aware outside the realms of narrow minded, self- serving corporate/bureaucratic expertise and so forth. As far as I can tell, hazyDBA doesn't seem to be organized around any coherent conciousness paradigm (business model) of that sort. As such, any attempt to push the organizational boundries of hazyDBA's culture any further doesn't seem very promising. regards, ep btw, the direct link doesn't work. You have to start at the main page: http://www.lazydba.com, and click on the discuss link undre the following heading (on the left just under the green banner): Followup to last week's forum This is a followup to last weeks forum. Discuss Apparently last week's forum refers to the next heading down which is titled: Is Henry awful or not? This section is to discuss the recent events on the list. Is Henry Awful or not? (http://www.lazydba.com/xcomment.pl?discussions:5) On 5 Jun 2001, at 7:20, Steve Adams wrote: Date sent: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 07:20:39 -0800 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] No, I'm waiting for Henry to announce the details of the commercial DBA union! The pre-announcement is at http://www.lazydba.com/xcomment.pl?discussions:6 ... -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Eric D. Pierce INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: organizational culture / RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney
I say we all go to Steve's house and play a game of Survivor to see who the most powerfull DBA in the world is. I'm willing to bet certain list opts are the first voted off. - E -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 10:57 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Steve, LWD have mercy! If the DBA union develops in the same unenlightened, dysfunctional context (large amounts of pointless/unproductive tribalistic squabbling bickering over trivial b.s., etc.) as have events on hazyDBA, I'm sure it will be a huge success (sarcasm intended). Even in the non-profit sector, people are expected to understand the dynamics of managing the organizational culture of a group. There has been a lot of research done on computer mediated communication, communities of practice, the inherent capacity of people to become self-learning/self-aware outside the realms of narrow minded, self- serving corporate/bureaucratic expertise and so forth. As far as I can tell, hazyDBA doesn't seem to be organized around any coherent conciousness paradigm (business model) of that sort. As such, any attempt to push the organizational boundries of hazyDBA's culture any further doesn't seem very promising. regards, ep btw, the direct link doesn't work. You have to start at the main page: http://www.lazydba.com, and click on the discuss link undre the following heading (on the left just under the green banner): Followup to last week's forum This is a followup to last weeks forum. Discuss Apparently last week's forum refers to the next heading down which is titled: Is Henry awful or not? This section is to discuss the recent events on the list. Is Henry Awful or not? (http://www.lazydba.com/xcomment.pl?discussions:5) -- This e-mail is intended for the use of the addressee(s) only and may contain privileged, confidential, or proprietary information that is exempt from disclosure under law. If you have received this message in error, please inform us promptly by reply e-mail, then delete the e-mail and destroy any printed copy. Thank you. == -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Post, Ethan INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney
http://www.zotgroup.com/about/name.html On 5 Jun 2001, at 9:26, Thater, William scribbled with alacrity and cogency: ZOT ;-) -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Eric D. Pierce INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney
On Tue, 5 Jun 2001,Eric D. Pierce scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: -http://www.zotgroup.com/about/name.html - -On 5 Jun 2001, at 9:26, Thater, William scribbled with alacrity and cogency: - - - - ZOT ;-) - - - actually i took my usage from rec.humor.oracle.;-) as in lightining striking from on high.;-) -- Bill Shrek Thater Certifiable ORACLE DBA Telergy, Inc.[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~ You gotta program like you don't need the money, You gotta compile like you'll never get hurt, You gotta run like there's nobody watching, It's gotta come from the heart if you want it to work. ~~ Terminal glare: A look that kills... -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Thater, William INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney
Eric, Exactly how many databases of what size are you supporting? Is your daily presence required merely for appearance's sake while you do the Real Stuff at night - or is this and Barbie watching the real Real Stuff? David A. Barbour Oracle DBA, OCP AISD 512-414-1002 Eric D. Pierce To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] PierceED@csucc: s.edu Subject: Re: OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney Sent by: root@fatcity. com 06/05/2001 01:06 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L http://www.ahsc.arizona.edu/uac/iacuc/cattle/occup.shtml --- excerpt --- ... STEPS TO PREVENT DISEASE TRANSMISSION FROM ANIMALS TO MAN 1.Wash your hands with soap and water after handling animals, manure or urine, or animal products such as: milk, meat, wool, rumen samples, blood, fluids draining from wounds and placental membranes. 2.Never eat or drink in areas where animals, animal wastes, or animal products are being handled. 3.Never drink milk which has not been pasteurized. Never eat meat which has not been inspected by the U.S.D.A. 4.Report all suspected sick animals as soon as possible so that the Farm Animal Veterinarian may determine the cause of the illness and implement any additional protective steps. 5.It is best to wear a designated pair of shoes and jeans or coveralls while working at the farm (don't wear these items elsewhere). Clean the shoes very well before getting into car to go home-remove manure with brush and spray with commercial disinfectant. Wash coveralls separate from family wash, or have farm unit do the washing. ... --- end --- On 5 Jun 2001, at 9:47, Rachel Carmichael wrote: if you say so :) From: Mohan, Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 08:01:28 -0800 Fine. Rachel works for CattleButt -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Eric D. Pierce INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Apology! was Re[2]: O'Reilly, was Re[2]: TUSC and Kevin Loney
Tuesday, June 05, 2001, 1:42:30 PM, Scott Shafer wrote: SSdcom If you keep refering to him as Kevin Looney, I would bet he will never SSdcom write a book for Oreilly... grin Oh s--t! Kevin, I apologize. I never intended to get your name wrong. I can't believe I bungled it in front of every DBA in the entire world. I'm going to go bury my head in the sand now. I really do apologize. I thought I was spelling it right. Obviously I botched up big-time here. Best regards, Jonathan Gennick mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * 906.387.1698 http://Gennick.com * http://MichiganWaterfalls.com * http://MetalDrums.org -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jonathan Gennick INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: organizational culture / RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney
EP, You were definitely too nice. So I'll defer to you. I could use the practice. Oh, hell, I can't resist a little bit. All we need is the crying and whining from hazyDBAs to form a voting bloc. Yea, that's the ticket. Give me the denizens of Jared/Bruce-ville anytime. RM || -Original Message- || From: Eric D. Pierce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] || Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 1:57 PM || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || Subject: organizational culture / RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney || || || Steve, || || LWD have mercy! || || If the DBA union develops in the same unenlightened, dysfunctional || context (large amounts of pointless/unproductive tribalistic || squabbling bickering over trivial b.s., etc.) as have events on || hazyDBA, I'm sure it will be a huge success (sarcasm intended). || || Even in the non-profit sector, people are expected to understand the || dynamics of managing the organizational culture of a group. There || has been a lot of research done on computer mediated || communication, || communities of practice, the inherent capacity of people to become || self-learning/self-aware outside the realms of narrow minded, self- || serving corporate/bureaucratic expertise and so forth. As far as I || can tell, hazyDBA doesn't seem to be organized around any coherent || conciousness paradigm (business model) of that sort. As such, any || attempt to push the organizational boundries of hazyDBA's culture || any further doesn't seem very promising. || || regards, || ep || || btw, the direct link doesn't work. You have to start at the main || page: http://www.lazydba.com, and click on the discuss link undre || the following heading (on the left just under the green banner): || ||Followup to last || week's forum || This is a followup || to last weeks forum. || Discuss || || Apparently last week's forum refers to the next heading down which || is titled: || ||Is Henry awful || or not? || This section is to || discuss the recent || events on the list. Is || Henry Awful or || not? || (http://www.lazydba.com/xcomment.pl?discussions:5) || || || || || || On 5 Jun 2001, at 7:20, Steve Adams wrote: || || Date sent: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 07:20:39 -0800 || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || No, I'm waiting for Henry to announce the details of the || commercial DBA union! || The pre-announcement is at || http://www.lazydba.com/xcomment.pl?|| discussions:6 || || ... || || || -- || || Please see the official ORACLE-L || FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com || -- || Author: Eric D. Pierce || INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 || San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / || Mailing Lists || || To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message || to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in || the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L || (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may || also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). || -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mohan, Ross INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney
HELP -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 12:26 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Come on, Ross. The real question is who do YOU work for. Are you an idiot? Lisa Koivu Oracle Database Administrator 954-935-4117 The information in the electronic mail message is Cendant confidential and may be legally privileged, it is intended solely for the addressee(s) access to this internet electronic mail message by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it is prohibited and may be unlawful. The sender believes that this E-mail and any attachments were free of any virus, worm, Trojan horse, and/or malicious code when sent. This message and its attachments could have been infected during transmission. By reading the message and opening any attachments, the recipient accepts full responsibility for taking protective and remedial action about viruses and other defects. Cendant Corporation or Affiliates are not liable for any loss or damage arising in any way from this message or its attachments. -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 11:57 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Steve Adams works for Barnes and Noble partnering with Quest and TUSC? What about Rachel? || -Original Message- || From: Mike Killough [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] || Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 6:27 PM || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || Subject: Re: TUSC and Kevin Loney || || || And tusc has a partnership w/ quest. Weird. tusc does a lot of their || recruiting at Barnes and Noble. I think Steve Adams is on || the hit list. || || || From: Rachel Carmichael [EMAIL PROTECTED] || Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] || Subject: Re: TUSC and Kevin Loney || Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 12:36:50 -0800 || || and Steven Feuerstein works for Quest || || || From: Ron Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] || Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] || Subject: Re: TUSC and Kevin Loney || Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 12:02:09 -0800 || || I just had a meeting with the TUSC organization in Atlanta || GA. and Mike || Ault now works for TUSC also. || Ron Rogers || ROR mª¿ªm || || [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/04/01 02:51PM || I guess I am the last to discover this, but Kevin now || works for TUSC. || || || Patrice Boivin || Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) || || Systems Admin Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes || Technology Services| Services technologiques || Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique || Maritimes Region, DFO | Région des Maritimes, MPO || || E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] || || -- || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com http://www.orafaq.com || -- || Author: Boivin, Patrice J ||INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 || San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / || Mailing Lists || --- || - || To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message || to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in || the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L || (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may || also send the HELP command for other information (like || subscribing). || || -- || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com http://www.orafaq.com || -- || Author: Ron Rogers ||INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 || San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / || Mailing Lists || --- || - || To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message || to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in || the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L || (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may || also send the HELP command for other information (like || subscribing). || || _ || Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com http://explorer.msn.com || || -- || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com http://www.orafaq.com || -- || Author: Rachel Carmichael || INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 || San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / || Mailing Lists
RE: organizational culture / RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney
Yet more tribal squabbling? Or was this the trivial b.s. part of the attack? My daddy is going to beat your daddy up Oh Jaysus Freaking Christ, what bullsh*t. || -Original Message- || From: Post, Ethan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] || Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 2:13 PM || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || Subject: RE: organizational culture / RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney || || || I say we all go to Steve's house and play a game of || Survivor to see who || the most powerfull DBA in the world is. I'm willing to bet || certain list || opts are the first voted off. - E || || -Original Message- || Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 10:57 AM || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || || || Steve, || || LWD have mercy! || || If the DBA union develops in the same unenlightened, dysfunctional || context (large amounts of pointless/unproductive tribalistic || squabbling bickering over trivial b.s., etc.) as have events on || hazyDBA, I'm sure it will be a huge success (sarcasm intended). || || Even in the non-profit sector, people are expected to understand the || dynamics of managing the organizational culture of a group. There || has been a lot of research done on computer mediated || communication, || communities of practice, the inherent capacity of people to become || self-learning/self-aware outside the realms of narrow minded, self- || serving corporate/bureaucratic expertise and so forth. As far as I || can tell, hazyDBA doesn't seem to be organized around any coherent || conciousness paradigm (business model) of that sort. As such, any || attempt to push the organizational boundries of hazyDBA's culture || any further doesn't seem very promising. || || regards, || ep || || btw, the direct link doesn't work. You have to start at the main || page: http://www.lazydba.com, and click on the discuss link undre || the following heading (on the left just under the green banner): || ||Followup to last || week's forum || This is a followup || to last weeks forum. || Discuss || || Apparently last week's forum refers to the next heading down which || is titled: || ||Is Henry awful || or not? || This section is to || discuss the recent || events on the list. Is || Henry Awful or || not? || (http://www.lazydba.com/xcomment.pl?discussions:5) || || || || || || || - || - || This e-mail is intended for the use of the addressee(s) only || and may contain privileged, confidential, or proprietary || information that is exempt from disclosure under law. If || you have received this message in error, please inform us || promptly by reply e-mail, then delete the e-mail and destroy || any printed copy. Thank you. || || = || = || -- || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com || -- || Author: Post, Ethan || INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 || San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / || Mailing Lists || || To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message || to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in || the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L || (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may || also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). || -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mohan, Ross INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
WAY OT -- Cattlebutt was: OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney
LOL! Great! || -Original Message- || From: Eric D. Pierce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] || Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 2:07 PM || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || Subject: Re: OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney || || || http://www.ahsc.arizona.edu/uac/iacuc/cattle/occup.shtml || || --- excerpt --- || || ... || STEPS TO PREVENT DISEASE TRANSMISSION FROM ANIMALS TO MAN || || 1.Wash your hands with soap and water after handling animals, || manure or urine, or animal products such as: || milk, meat, wool, rumen samples, blood, fluids draining from || wounds and placental membranes. || 2.Never eat or drink in areas where animals, animal wastes, or || animal products are being handled. || 3.Never drink milk which has not been pasteurized. Never eat meat || which has not been inspected by the || U.S.D.A. || 4.Report all suspected sick animals as soon as possible so || that the || Farm Animal Veterinarian may determine || the cause of the illness and implement any additional protective || steps. || 5.It is best to wear a designated pair of shoes and jeans or || coveralls while working at the farm (don't wear || these items elsewhere). Clean the shoes very well before getting || into car to go home-remove manure with || brush and spray with commercial disinfectant. Wash coveralls || separate from family wash, or have farm unit || do the washing. || || ... || || --- end --- || || On 5 Jun 2001, at 9:47, Rachel Carmichael wrote: || || if you say so :) || || || From: Mohan, Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] || Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] || Subject: OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney || Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 08:01:28 -0800 || || Fine. || || Rachel works for CattleButt || || -- || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com || -- || Author: Eric D. Pierce || INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 || San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / || Mailing Lists || || To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message || to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in || the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L || (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may || also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). || -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mohan, Ross INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: organizational culture / RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney
OH you can't scare me I'm sticking with the Union. There once was a DBA who never was afraid of crashes and locks in the glass box. Being overworked and underpaid. She woke up from her sleep whenever she was beeped And when review time came around she always stood her ground (and said)... -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 2:13 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I say we all go to Steve's house and play a game of Survivor to see who the most powerfull DBA in the world is. I'm willing to bet certain list opts are the first voted off. - E -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 10:57 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Steve, LWD have mercy! If the DBA union develops in the same unenlightened, dysfunctional context (large amounts of pointless/unproductive tribalistic squabbling bickering over trivial b.s., etc.) as have events on hazyDBA, I'm sure it will be a huge success (sarcasm intended). Even in the non-profit sector, people are expected to understand the dynamics of managing the organizational culture of a group. There has been a lot of research done on computer mediated communication, communities of practice, the inherent capacity of people to become self-learning/self-aware outside the realms of narrow minded, self- serving corporate/bureaucratic expertise and so forth. As far as I can tell, hazyDBA doesn't seem to be organized around any coherent conciousness paradigm (business model) of that sort. As such, any attempt to push the organizational boundries of hazyDBA's culture any further doesn't seem very promising. regards, ep btw, the direct link doesn't work. You have to start at the main page: http://www.lazydba.com, and click on the discuss link undre the following heading (on the left just under the green banner): Followup to last week's forum This is a followup to last weeks forum. Discuss Apparently last week's forum refers to the next heading down which is titled: Is Henry awful or not? This section is to discuss the recent events on the list. Is Henry Awful or not? (http://www.lazydba.com/xcomment.pl?discussions:5) -- This e-mail is intended for the use of the addressee(s) only and may contain privileged, confidential, or proprietary information that is exempt from disclosure under law. If you have received this message in error, please inform us promptly by reply e-mail, then delete the e-mail and destroy any printed copy. Thank you. == -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Post, Ethan INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Henry Poras INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: organizational culture / RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney
On Tue, 5 Jun 2001,Mohan, Ross scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: -Yet more tribal squabbling? Or was this the trivial b.s. part of the -attack? - -My daddy is going to beat your daddy up - -Oh Jaysus Freaking Christ, what bullsh*t. been there, done that, survived, still have flashbacks, don't wanna do it again, don't wanna get me backed into a corner[trust me;-)] -- Bill Shrek Thater Certifiable ORACLE DBA Telergy, Inc.[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~ You gotta program like you don't need the money, You gotta compile like you'll never get hurt, You gotta run like there's nobody watching, It's gotta come from the heart if you want it to work. ~~ Terminal glare: A look that kills... -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Thater, William INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney
Well, when I visited last, you weren't...shall we say...thrilled about *all* of the personalities in upper mgmtG || -Original Message- || From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] || Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 1:48 PM || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || Subject: Re: OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney || || || if you say so :) || || || From: Mohan, Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] || Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] || Subject: OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney || Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 08:01:28 -0800 || || Fine. || || Rachel works for CattleButt || || || -Original Message- || || From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] || || Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 10:15 PM || || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || || Subject: Re: OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney || || || || || || the heck you say! Good chocolate or none at all... Callebrut || || || || || || || || From: Mohan, Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || Subject: OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney || || Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 13:27:38 -0800 || || || || And Rachel works for Godiva. || || || || || -Original Message- || || || From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] || || || Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 4:37 PM || || || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || || || Subject: Re: TUSC and Kevin Loney || || || || || || || || || and Steven Feuerstein works for Quest || || || || || || || || || From: Ron Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || || Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || || Subject: Re: TUSC and Kevin Loney || || || Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 12:02:09 -0800 || || || || || || I just had a meeting with the TUSC organization in Atlanta || || || GA. and Mike || || || Ault now works for TUSC also. || || || Ron Rogers || || || ROR mª¿ªm || || || || || || [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/04/01 02:51PM || || || I guess I am the last to discover this, but Kevin now works || || || for TUSC. || || || || || || || || || Patrice Boivin || || || Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) || || || || || || Systems Admin Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes || || || Technology Services| Services technologiques || || || Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique || || || Maritimes Region, DFO | Région des Maritimes, MPO || || || || || || E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] || || || || || || -- || || || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com || || || -- || || || Author: Boivin, Patrice J || || ||INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || || || || || Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: || || (858) 538-5051 || || || San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / || || || Mailing Lists || || || || || || || || || To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an || || E-Mail message || || || to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of || || 'ListGuru') and in || || || the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L || || || (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed || || from). You may || || || also send the HELP command for other information (like || || subscribing). || || || || || || -- || || || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com || || || -- || || || Author: Ron Rogers || || ||INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || || || || || Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: || || (858) 538-5051 || || || San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / || || || Mailing Lists || || || || || || || || || To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an || || E-Mail message || || || to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of || || 'ListGuru') and in || || || the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L || || || (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed || || from). You may || || || also send the HELP command for other information (like || || subscribing). || || || || || || || _ || || || Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at || http://explorer.msn.com || || || || || || -- || || || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com || || || -- || || || Author: Rachel Carmichael || || || INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || || || || || Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: || || (858) 538-5051 || || || San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / || || || Mailing Lists || || || || || || || || || To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an || E-Mail message || || || to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of || || 'ListGuru
RE: OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney
Eric, In preparing your answer, recall that Size does Matter and Quantity is better than Quality. Then, approach your work with this firmly in mind. When you get to over a PetaByte, I'll give you one attoboy. (We drive a tough bargain on this list.) :) http://www.netdepot.org/reference/conversions.htm || -Original Message- || From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] || Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 2:54 PM || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || Subject: Re: OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney || || || || Eric, || || Exactly how many databases of what size are you supporting? || Is your daily || presence required merely for appearance's sake while you do || the Real Stuff || at night - or is this and Barbie watching the real Real Stuff? || || David A. Barbour || Oracle DBA, OCP || AISD || 512-414-1002 || || || || || Eric D. || || Pierce To: Multiple || recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] || PierceED@csucc: || || s.edu Subject: Re: OT || RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney || Sent by: || || root@fatcity. || || com || || || || || || 06/05/2001 || || 01:06 PM || || Please || || respond to || || ORACLE-L || || || || || || || || || || http://www.ahsc.arizona.edu/uac/iacuc/cattle/occup.shtml || || --- excerpt --- || || ... || STEPS TO PREVENT DISEASE TRANSMISSION FROM ANIMALS TO MAN || || 1.Wash your hands with soap and water after handling animals, || manure or urine, or animal products such as: || milk, meat, wool, rumen samples, blood, fluids draining from || wounds and placental membranes. || 2.Never eat or drink in areas where animals, animal wastes, or || animal products are being handled. || 3.Never drink milk which has not been pasteurized. Never eat meat || which has not been inspected by the || U.S.D.A. || 4.Report all suspected sick animals as soon as possible so that the || Farm Animal Veterinarian may determine || the cause of the illness and implement any additional protective || steps. || 5.It is best to wear a designated pair of shoes and jeans or || coveralls while working at the farm (don't wear || these items elsewhere). Clean the shoes very well before getting || into car to go home-remove manure with || brush and spray with commercial disinfectant. Wash coveralls || separate from family wash, or have farm unit || do the washing. || || ... || || --- end --- || || On 5 Jun 2001, at 9:47, Rachel Carmichael wrote: || || if you say so :) || || || From: Mohan, Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] || Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] || Subject: OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney || Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 08:01:28 -0800 || || Fine. || || Rachel works for CattleButt || || -- || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com || -- || Author: Eric D. Pierce || INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 || San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / || Mailing Lists || || To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message || to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in || the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L
RE: organizational culture / RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney
I'd like to second this can't we keep our bashing to our own people on THIS list and not spread it to other lists where they can't defend themselves? MUCH simpler to attack an unarmed opponent. But oh so much more satisfying to beat an armed one From: Mohan, Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: organizational culture / RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 11:35:29 -0800 Yet more tribal squabbling? Or was this the trivial b.s. part of the attack? My daddy is going to beat your daddy up Oh Jaysus Freaking Christ, what bullsh*t. || -Original Message- || From: Post, Ethan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] || Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 2:13 PM || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || Subject: RE: organizational culture / RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney || || || I say we all go to Steve's house and play a game of || Survivor to see who || the most powerfull DBA in the world is. I'm willing to bet || certain list || opts are the first voted off. - E || || -Original Message- || Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 10:57 AM || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || || || Steve, || || LWD have mercy! || || If the DBA union develops in the same unenlightened, dysfunctional || context (large amounts of pointless/unproductive tribalistic || squabbling bickering over trivial b.s., etc.) as have events on || hazyDBA, I'm sure it will be a huge success (sarcasm intended). || || Even in the non-profit sector, people are expected to understand the || dynamics of managing the organizational culture of a group. There || has been a lot of research done on computer mediated || communication, || communities of practice, the inherent capacity of people to become || self-learning/self-aware outside the realms of narrow minded, self- || serving corporate/bureaucratic expertise and so forth. As far as I || can tell, hazyDBA doesn't seem to be organized around any coherent || conciousness paradigm (business model) of that sort. As such, any || attempt to push the organizational boundries of hazyDBA's culture || any further doesn't seem very promising. || || regards, || ep || || btw, the direct link doesn't work. You have to start at the main || page: http://www.lazydba.com, and click on the discuss link undre || the following heading (on the left just under the green banner): || ||Followup to last || week's forum || This is a followup || to last weeks forum. || Discuss || || Apparently last week's forum refers to the next heading down which || is titled: || ||Is Henry awful || or not? || This section is to || discuss the recent || events on the list. Is || Henry Awful or || not? || (http://www.lazydba.com/xcomment.pl?discussions:5) || || || || || || || - || - || This e-mail is intended for the use of the addressee(s) only || and may contain privileged, confidential, or proprietary || information that is exempt from disclosure under law. If || you have received this message in error, please inform us || promptly by reply e-mail, then delete the e-mail and destroy || any printed copy. Thank you. || || = || = || -- || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com || -- || Author: Post, Ethan || INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 || San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / || Mailing Lists || || To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message || to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in || the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L || (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may || also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). || -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mohan, Ross INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel
RE: OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney
everyone is annoyed with parts of their jobs at various times... besides, it can't ever possibly be as bad as one other I had.. From: Mohan, Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 11:18:42 -0800 Well, when I visited last, you weren't...shall we say...thrilled about *all* of the personalities in upper mgmtG || -Original Message- || From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] || Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 1:48 PM || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || Subject: Re: OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney || || || if you say so :) || || || From: Mohan, Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] || Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] || Subject: OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney || Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 08:01:28 -0800 || || Fine. || || Rachel works for CattleButt || || || -Original Message- || || From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] || || Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 10:15 PM || || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || || Subject: Re: OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney || || || || || || the heck you say! Good chocolate or none at all... Callebrut || || || || || || || || From: Mohan, Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || Subject: OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney || || Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 13:27:38 -0800 || || || || And Rachel works for Godiva. || || || || || -Original Message- || || || From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] || || || Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 4:37 PM || || || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || || || Subject: Re: TUSC and Kevin Loney || || || || || || || || || and Steven Feuerstein works for Quest || || || || || || || || || From: Ron Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || || Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || || Subject: Re: TUSC and Kevin Loney || || || Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 12:02:09 -0800 || || || || || || I just had a meeting with the TUSC organization in Atlanta || || || GA. and Mike || || || Ault now works for TUSC also. || || || Ron Rogers || || || ROR mª¿ªm || || || || || || [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/04/01 02:51PM || || || I guess I am the last to discover this, but Kevin now works || || || for TUSC. || || || || || || || || || Patrice Boivin || || || Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) || || || || || || Systems Admin Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes || || || Technology Services| Services technologiques || || || Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique || || || Maritimes Region, DFO | Région des Maritimes, MPO || || || || || || E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] || || || || || || -- || || || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com || || || -- || || || Author: Boivin, Patrice J || || ||INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || || || || || Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: || || (858) 538-5051 || || || San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / || || || Mailing Lists || || || || || || || || || To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an || || E-Mail message || || || to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of || || 'ListGuru') and in || || || the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L || || || (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed || || from). You may || || || also send the HELP command for other information (like || || subscribing). || || || || || || -- || || || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com || || || -- || || || Author: Ron Rogers || || ||INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || || || || || Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: || || (858) 538-5051 || || || San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / || || || Mailing Lists || || || || || || || || || To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an || || E-Mail message || || || to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of || || 'ListGuru') and in || || || the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L || || || (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed || || from). You may || || || also send the HELP command for other information (like || || subscribing). || || || || || || || _ || || || Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at || http://explorer.msn.com || || || || || || -- || || || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com || || || -- || || || Author: Rachel Carmichael || || || INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || || || || || Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: || || (858) 538-5051
RE: OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney
I am never annoyed with my job or the people here. Well, except when I am here as well. But when I am home I am ok. -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 1:37 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L everyone is annoyed with parts of their jobs at various times... besides, it can't ever possibly be as bad as one other I had.. From: Mohan, Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 11:18:42 -0800 Well, when I visited last, you weren't...shall we say...thrilled about *all* of the personalities in upper mgmtG || -Original Message- || From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] || Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 1:48 PM || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || Subject: Re: OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney || || || if you say so :) || || || From: Mohan, Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] || Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] || Subject: OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney || Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 08:01:28 -0800 || || Fine. || || Rachel works for CattleButt || || || -Original Message- || || From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] || || Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 10:15 PM || || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || || Subject: Re: OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney || || || || || || the heck you say! Good chocolate or none at all... Callebrut || || || || || || || || From: Mohan, Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || Subject: OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney || || Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 13:27:38 -0800 || || || || And Rachel works for Godiva. || || || || || -Original Message- || || || From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] || || || Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 4:37 PM || || || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || || || Subject: Re: TUSC and Kevin Loney || || || || || || || || || and Steven Feuerstein works for Quest || || || || || || || || || From: Ron Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || || Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || || Subject: Re: TUSC and Kevin Loney || || || Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 12:02:09 -0800 || || || || || || I just had a meeting with the TUSC organization in Atlanta || || || GA. and Mike || || || Ault now works for TUSC also. || || || Ron Rogers || || || ROR mª¿ªm || || || || || || [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/04/01 02:51PM || || || I guess I am the last to discover this, but Kevin now works || || || for TUSC. || || || || || || || || || Patrice Boivin || || || Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) || || || || || || Systems Admin Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes || || || Technology Services| Services technologiques || || || Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique || || || Maritimes Region, DFO | Région des Maritimes, MPO || || || || || || E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] || || || || || || -- || || || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com || || || -- || || || Author: Boivin, Patrice J || || ||INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || || || || || Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: || || (858) 538-5051 || || || San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / || || || Mailing Lists || || || || || || || || || To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an || || E-Mail message || || || to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of || || 'ListGuru') and in || || || the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L || || || (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed || || from). You may || || || also send the HELP command for other information (like || || subscribing). || || || || || || -- || || || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com || || || -- || || || Author: Ron Rogers || || ||INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || || || || || Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: || || (858) 538-5051 || || || San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / || || || Mailing Lists || || || || || || || || || To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an || || E-Mail message || || || to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of || || 'ListGuru') and in || || || the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L || || || (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed || || from). You may || || || also send the HELP command for other information (like || || subscribing). || || || || || || || _ || || || Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at || http://explorer.msn.com || || || || || || -- || || || Please see
RE: organizational culture / RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney
Well I for one apologize for any ill recieved remarks. It was a flawed attempt to humor others. - E -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 1:37 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I'd like to second this can't we keep our bashing to our own people on THIS list and not spread it to other lists where they can't defend themselves? MUCH simpler to attack an unarmed opponent. But oh so much more satisfying to beat an armed one From: Mohan, Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: organizational culture / RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 11:35:29 -0800 Yet more tribal squabbling? Or was this the trivial b.s. part of the attack? My daddy is going to beat your daddy up Oh Jaysus Freaking Christ, what bullsh*t. || -Original Message- || From: Post, Ethan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] || Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 2:13 PM || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || Subject: RE: organizational culture / RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney || || || I say we all go to Steve's house and play a game of || Survivor to see who || the most powerfull DBA in the world is. I'm willing to bet || certain list || opts are the first voted off. - E || || -Original Message- || Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 10:57 AM || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || || || Steve, || || LWD have mercy! || || If the DBA union develops in the same unenlightened, dysfunctional || context (large amounts of pointless/unproductive tribalistic || squabbling bickering over trivial b.s., etc.) as have events on || hazyDBA, I'm sure it will be a huge success (sarcasm intended). || || Even in the non-profit sector, people are expected to understand the || dynamics of managing the organizational culture of a group. There || has been a lot of research done on computer mediated || communication, || communities of practice, the inherent capacity of people to become || self-learning/self-aware outside the realms of narrow minded, self- || serving corporate/bureaucratic expertise and so forth. As far as I || can tell, hazyDBA doesn't seem to be organized around any coherent || conciousness paradigm (business model) of that sort. As such, any || attempt to push the organizational boundries of hazyDBA's culture || any further doesn't seem very promising. || || regards, || ep || || btw, the direct link doesn't work. You have to start at the main || page: http://www.lazydba.com, and click on the discuss link undre || the following heading (on the left just under the green banner): || ||Followup to last || week's forum || This is a followup || to last weeks forum. || Discuss || || Apparently last week's forum refers to the next heading down which || is titled: || ||Is Henry awful || or not? || This section is to || discuss the recent || events on the list. Is || Henry Awful or || not? || (http://www.lazydba.com/xcomment.pl?discussions:5) || || || || || || || - || - || This e-mail is intended for the use of the addressee(s) only || and may contain privileged, confidential, or proprietary || information that is exempt from disclosure under law. If || you have received this message in error, please inform us || promptly by reply e-mail, then delete the e-mail and destroy || any printed copy. Thank you. || || = || = || -- || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com || -- || Author: Post, Ethan || INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 || San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / || Mailing Lists || || To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message || to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in || the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L || (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may || also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). || -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mohan, Ross INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing
RE: OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney
The one where they used a calleprod on you? EG || -Original Message- || From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] || Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 4:37 PM || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || Subject: RE: OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney || || || everyone is annoyed with parts of their jobs at various || times... besides, it || can't ever possibly be as bad as one other I had.. || || || From: Mohan, Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] || Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] || Subject: RE: OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney || Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 11:18:42 -0800 || || Well, when I visited last, you || weren't...shall we say...thrilled || about *all* of the personalities in || upper mgmtG || || || -Original Message- || || From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] || || Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 1:48 PM || || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || || Subject: Re: OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney || || || || || || if you say so :) || || || || || || From: Mohan, Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || Subject: OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney || || Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 08:01:28 -0800 || || || || Fine. || || || || Rachel works for CattleButt || || || || || -Original Message- || || || From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] || || || Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 10:15 PM || || || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || || || Subject: Re: OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney || || || || || || || || || the heck you say! Good chocolate or none at all... Callebrut || || || || || || || || || || || || From: Mohan, Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || || Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || || Subject: OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney || || || Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 13:27:38 -0800 || || || || || || And Rachel works for Godiva. || || || || || || || -Original Message- || || || || From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] || || || || Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 4:37 PM || || || || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || || || || Subject: Re: TUSC and Kevin Loney || || || || || || || || || || || || and Steven Feuerstein works for Quest || || || || || || || || || || || || From: Ron Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || || || Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || || || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || || [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || || || Subject: Re: TUSC and Kevin Loney || || || || Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 12:02:09 -0800 || || || || || || || || I just had a meeting with the TUSC organization || in Atlanta || || || || GA. and Mike || || || || Ault now works for TUSC also. || || || || Ron Rogers || || || || ROR mª¿ªm || || || || || || || || [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/04/01 02:51PM || || || || I guess I am the last to discover this, but || Kevin now works || || || || for TUSC. || || || || || || || || || || || || Patrice Boivin || || || || Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) || || || || || || || || Systems Admin Operations | Admin. et Exploit. || des systèmes || || || || Technology Services| Services technologiques || || || || Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique || || || || Maritimes Region, DFO | Région des Maritimes, MPO || || || || || || || || E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || || mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] || || || || || || || || -- || || || || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: || http://www.orafaq.com || || || || -- || || || || Author: Boivin, Patrice J || || || ||INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || || || || || || || Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: || || || (858) 538-5051 || || || || San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / || || || || Mailing Lists || || || || || || || || || || || || || || To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an || || || E-Mail message || || || || to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of || || || 'ListGuru') and in || || || || the message BODY, include a line containing: || UNSUB ORACLE-L || || || || (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed || || || from). You may || || || || also send the HELP command for other information (like || || || subscribing). || || || || || || || || -- || || || || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: || http://www.orafaq.com || || || || -- || || || || Author: Ron Rogers || || || ||INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || || || || || || || Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: || || || (858) 538-5051 || || || || San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / || || || || Mailing Lists || || || || || || || || || || || || || || To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an || || || E-Mail message || || || || to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT
Re: TUSC and Kevin Loney
Just wondering if Steve joined TUSC, will there be no Steve Adams on the list and ixora on the net?? -Original Message- To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 12:52 AM Hi All, No, I'm waiting for Henry to announce the details of the commercial DBA union! The pre-announcement is at http://www.lazydba.com/xcomment.pl?discussions:6 @ Regards, @ Steve Adams @ http://www.ixora.com.au/ @ http://www.christianity.net.au/ PS. This is a joke for the benefit of those who have been following the LazyDBA issues. -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, 6 June 2001 0:35 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L What about Steve Adams, does somebody know whether he joined some big company also? -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Steve Adams INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: KC INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney
that's the one... the one that was the only DBA job in the whole world :) From: Mohan, Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 13:30:43 -0800 The one where they used a calleprod on you? EG || -Original Message- || From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] || Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 4:37 PM || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || Subject: RE: OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney || || || everyone is annoyed with parts of their jobs at various || times... besides, it || can't ever possibly be as bad as one other I had.. || || || From: Mohan, Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] || Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] || Subject: RE: OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney || Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 11:18:42 -0800 || || Well, when I visited last, you || weren't...shall we say...thrilled || about *all* of the personalities in || upper mgmtG || || || -Original Message- || || From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] || || Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 1:48 PM || || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || || Subject: Re: OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney || || || || || || if you say so :) || || || || || || From: Mohan, Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || Subject: OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney || || Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 08:01:28 -0800 || || || || Fine. || || || || Rachel works for CattleButt || || || || || -Original Message- || || || From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] || || || Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 10:15 PM || || || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || || || Subject: Re: OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney || || || || || || || || || the heck you say! Good chocolate or none at all... Callebrut || || || || || || || || || || || || From: Mohan, Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || || Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || || Subject: OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney || || || Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 13:27:38 -0800 || || || || || || And Rachel works for Godiva. || || || || || || || -Original Message- || || || || From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] || || || || Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 4:37 PM || || || || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || || || || Subject: Re: TUSC and Kevin Loney || || || || || || || || || || || || and Steven Feuerstein works for Quest || || || || || || || || || || || || From: Ron Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || || || Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || || || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || || [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || || || Subject: Re: TUSC and Kevin Loney || || || || Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 12:02:09 -0800 || || || || || || || || I just had a meeting with the TUSC organization || in Atlanta || || || || GA. and Mike || || || || Ault now works for TUSC also. || || || || Ron Rogers || || || || ROR mª¿ªm || || || || || || || || [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/04/01 02:51PM || || || || I guess I am the last to discover this, but || Kevin now works || || || || for TUSC. || || || || || || || || || || || || Patrice Boivin || || || || Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) || || || || || || || || Systems Admin Operations | Admin. et Exploit. || des systèmes || || || || Technology Services| Services technologiques || || || || Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique || || || || Maritimes Region, DFO | Région des Maritimes, MPO || || || || || || || || E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || || mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] || || || || || || || || -- || || || || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: || http://www.orafaq.com || || || || -- || || || || Author: Boivin, Patrice J || || || ||INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || || || || || || || Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: || || || (858) 538-5051 || || || || San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / || || || || Mailing Lists || || || || || || || || || || || || || || To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an || || || E-Mail message || || || || to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of || || || 'ListGuru') and in || || || || the message BODY, include a line containing: || UNSUB ORACLE-L || || || || (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed || || || from). You may || || || || also send the HELP command for other information (like || || || subscribing). || || || || || || || || -- || || || || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: || http://www.orafaq.com || || || || -- || || || || Author: Ron Rogers || || || ||INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || || || || || || || Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: || || || (858) 538-5051 || || || || San Diego, California-- Public Internet
RE: OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney
theme music from the Virginia Slims commercial Yea, that was it...great memory. -Original Message- To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: 6/5/2001 10:45 PM that's the one... the one that was the only DBA job in the whole world :) From: Mohan, Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 13:30:43 -0800 The one where they used a calleprod on you? EG || -Original Message- || From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] || Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 4:37 PM || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || Subject: RE: OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney || || || everyone is annoyed with parts of their jobs at various || times... besides, it || can't ever possibly be as bad as one other I had.. || || || From: Mohan, Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] || Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] || Subject: RE: OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney || Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 11:18:42 -0800 || || Well, when I visited last, you || weren't...shall we say...thrilled || about *all* of the personalities in || upper mgmtG || || || -Original Message- || || From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] || || Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 1:48 PM || || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || || Subject: Re: OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney || || || || || || if you say so :) || || || || || || From: Mohan, Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || Subject: OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney || || Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 08:01:28 -0800 || || || || Fine. || || || || Rachel works for CattleButt || || || || || -Original Message- || || || From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] || || || Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 10:15 PM || || || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || || || Subject: Re: OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney || || || || || || || || || the heck you say! Good chocolate or none at all... Callebrut || || || || || || || || || || || || From: Mohan, Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || || Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || || Subject: OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney || || || Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 13:27:38 -0800 || || || || || || And Rachel works for Godiva. || || || || || || || -Original Message- || || || || From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] || || || || Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 4:37 PM || || || || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || || || || Subject: Re: TUSC and Kevin Loney || || || || || || || || || || || || and Steven Feuerstein works for Quest || || || || || || || || || || || || From: Ron Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || || || Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || || || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || || [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || || || Subject: Re: TUSC and Kevin Loney || || || || Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 12:02:09 -0800 || || || || || || || || I just had a meeting with the TUSC organization || in Atlanta || || || || GA. and Mike || || || || Ault now works for TUSC also. || || || || Ron Rogers || || || || ROR mª¿ªm || || || || || || || || [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/04/01 02:51PM || || || || I guess I am the last to discover this, but || Kevin now works || || || || for TUSC. || || || || || || || || || || || || Patrice Boivin || || || || Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) || || || || || || || || Systems Admin Operations | Admin. et Exploit. || des systèmes || || || || Technology Services| Services technologiques || || || || Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique || || || || Maritimes Region, DFO | Région des Maritimes, MPO || || || || || || || || E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || || mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] || || || || || || || || -- || || || || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: || http://www.orafaq.com || || || || -- || || || || Author: Boivin, Patrice J || || || ||INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || || || || || || || Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: || || || (858) 538-5051 || || || || San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / || || || || Mailing Lists || || || || || || || || || || || || || || To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an || || || E-Mail message || || || || to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of || || || 'ListGuru') and in || || || || the message BODY, include a line containing: || UNSUB ORACLE-L || || || || (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed || || || from). You may || || || || also send the HELP command for other information (like || || || subscribing). || || || || || || || || -- || || || || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: || http://www.orafaq.com || || || || -- || || || || Author: Ron Rogers || || || ||INET
Re: organizational culture / RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney
On Tuesday 05 June 2001 11:13, Post, Ethan wrote: I say we all go to Steve's house and play a game of Survivor to see who the most powerfull DBA in the world is. ^^ Mladen would win. Jared -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney
I guess I am the last to discover this, but Kevin now works for TUSC. No Patrice - you were not the last! I thought Kevin was 'independent', so where did you get this info from? Anyway, TUSC is big in the Oracle area, and I wouldn't be surprised. John Kanagaraj -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: John Kanagaraj INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: TUSC and Kevin Loney
See: http://www.tusc.com/oracle/news/20010222a.html WORLD-RENOWNED ORACLE EXPERT KEVIN LONEY JOINS TUSC CHICAGO (Feb. 22, 2001) -- TUSC, the Oracle Experts, has announced a second major appointment in the past week with the hiring of world-renowned Oracle database administrator Kevin M. Loney. I found this on http://www.kevinloney.com/whatnews.htm -Joe - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 3:56 PM Kevin Loney does work for TUSC and has for some time now. From: John Kanagaraj [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 11:31:38 -0800 I guess I am the last to discover this, but Kevin now works for TUSC. No Patrice - you were not the last! I thought Kevin was 'independent', so where did you get this info from? Anyway, TUSC is big in the Oracle area, and I wouldn't be surprised. John Kanagaraj -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: John Kanagaraj INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Joe Raube INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney
And Rachel works for Godiva. || -Original Message- || From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] || Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 4:37 PM || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || Subject: Re: TUSC and Kevin Loney || || || and Steven Feuerstein works for Quest || || || From: Ron Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] || Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] || Subject: Re: TUSC and Kevin Loney || Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 12:02:09 -0800 || || I just had a meeting with the TUSC organization in Atlanta || GA. and Mike || Ault now works for TUSC also. || Ron Rogers || ROR mª¿ªm || || [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/04/01 02:51PM || I guess I am the last to discover this, but Kevin now works || for TUSC. || || || Patrice Boivin || Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) || || Systems Admin Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes || Technology Services| Services technologiques || Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique || Maritimes Region, DFO | Région des Maritimes, MPO || || E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] || || -- || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com || -- || Author: Boivin, Patrice J ||INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 || San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / || Mailing Lists || || To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message || to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in || the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L || (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may || also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). || || -- || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com || -- || Author: Ron Rogers ||INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 || San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / || Mailing Lists || || To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message || to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in || the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L || (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may || also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). || || _ || Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com || || -- || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com || -- || Author: Rachel Carmichael || INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 || San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / || Mailing Lists || || To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message || to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in || the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L || (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may || also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). || -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mohan, Ross INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney
Steve Feuerstein works for Quest Wow, cool, interesting. Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if both are frozen. Christopher R. Spence Oracle DBA Fuelspot -Original Message- Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 5:28 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L And Rachel works for Godiva. || -Original Message- || From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] || Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 4:37 PM || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || Subject: Re: TUSC and Kevin Loney || || || and Steven Feuerstein works for Quest || || || From: Ron Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] || Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] || Subject: Re: TUSC and Kevin Loney || Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 12:02:09 -0800 || || I just had a meeting with the TUSC organization in Atlanta || GA. and Mike || Ault now works for TUSC also. || Ron Rogers || ROR mª¿ªm || || [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/04/01 02:51PM || I guess I am the last to discover this, but Kevin now works || for TUSC. || || || Patrice Boivin || Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) || || Systems Admin Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes || Technology Services| Services technologiques || Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique || Maritimes Region, DFO | Région des Maritimes, MPO || || E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] || || -- || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com || -- || Author: Boivin, Patrice J ||INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 || San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / || Mailing Lists || || To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message || to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in || the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L || (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may || also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). || || -- || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com || -- || Author: Ron Rogers ||INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 || San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / || Mailing Lists || || To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message || to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in || the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L || (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may || also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). || || _ || Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com || || -- || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com || -- || Author: Rachel Carmichael || INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 || San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / || Mailing Lists || || To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message || to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in || the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L || (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may || also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). || -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mohan, Ross INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Christopher Spence INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like
RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney
Can't let that happen! If that happened, there would be Tusc DB 1.0 and all us oracle guru's will be useless against that product. Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if both are frozen. Christopher R. Spence Oracle DBA Fuelspot -Original Message- Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 6:27 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L And tusc has a partnership w/ quest. Weird. tusc does a lot of their recruiting at Barnes and Noble. I think Steve Adams is on the hit list. From: Rachel Carmichael [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TUSC and Kevin Loney Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 12:36:50 -0800 and Steven Feuerstein works for Quest From: Ron Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TUSC and Kevin Loney Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 12:02:09 -0800 I just had a meeting with the TUSC organization in Atlanta GA. and Mike Ault now works for TUSC also. Ron Rogers ROR mª¿ªm [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/04/01 02:51PM I guess I am the last to discover this, but Kevin now works for TUSC. Patrice Boivin Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) Systems Admin Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes Technology Services| Services technologiques Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique Maritimes Region, DFO | Région des Maritimes, MPO E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Boivin, Patrice J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Ron Rogers INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mike Killough INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Christopher Spence INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may
RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney
Who is Kevin Loney? -Original Message- Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 6:55 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Can't let that happen! If that happened, there would be Tusc DB 1.0 and all us oracle guru's will be useless against that product. Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if both are frozen. Christopher R. Spence Oracle DBA Fuelspot -Original Message- Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 6:27 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L And tusc has a partnership w/ quest. Weird. tusc does a lot of their recruiting at Barnes and Noble. I think Steve Adams is on the hit list. From: Rachel Carmichael [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TUSC and Kevin Loney Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 12:36:50 -0800 and Steven Feuerstein works for Quest From: Ron Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TUSC and Kevin Loney Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 12:02:09 -0800 I just had a meeting with the TUSC organization in Atlanta GA. and Mike Ault now works for TUSC also. Ron Rogers ROR mª¿ªm [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/04/01 02:51PM I guess I am the last to discover this, but Kevin now works for TUSC. Patrice Boivin Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) Systems Admin Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes Technology Services| Services technologiques Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique Maritimes Region, DFO | Région des Maritimes, MPO E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Boivin, Patrice J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Ron Rogers INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mike Killough INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Christopher Spence INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru
RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney
And tusc has a partnership w/ quest. Weird. tusc does a lot of their recruiting at Barnes and Noble. I think Steve Adams is on the hit list. As far as I am aware, some of the very respectable 'big guns' at Quest are: Gaja, Eyal Aronoff, Guy Harrison (yes - the one from the 'Oracle SQL tuning' fame), Steven Feuerstein (of PL/SQL fame), And now, as TUSC are: Rich Niemiec (President IOUG-A?), Kevin Loney, Mike Ault, ... So is this coalition a viable alternative to the all-knowing Oracle Support Services? John Kanagaraj -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: John Kanagaraj INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney
At TUSC, there are more authors than Rich Niemiec, Mike Ault, and Kevin Loney. There are also Brad Brown, Joe Trezzo, Tony Catalano. -Ari On Mon, 4 Jun 2001, John Kanagaraj wrote: And tusc has a partnership w/ quest. Weird. tusc does a lot of their recruiting at Barnes and Noble. I think Steve Adams is on the hit list. As far as I am aware, some of the very respectable 'big guns' at Quest are: Gaja, Eyal Aronoff, Guy Harrison (yes - the one from the 'Oracle SQL tuning' fame), Steven Feuerstein (of PL/SQL fame), And now, as TUSC are: Rich Niemiec (President IOUG-A?), Kevin Loney, Mike Ault, ... So is this coalition a viable alternative to the all-knowing Oracle Support Services? John Kanagaraj -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: John Kanagaraj INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Ari D Kaplan INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: TUSC and Kevin Loney
On Monday 04 June 2001 16:35, Khedr, Waleed wrote: Who is Kevin Loney? http://www.kevinloney.com Jared -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: TUSC and Kevin Loney
Oracle8/8i DBA Handbook Author visit www.kevinloney.com He is pretty good in Oracle . - SathishB - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 7:35 PM Who is Kevin Loney? -Original Message- Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 6:55 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Can't let that happen! If that happened, there would be Tusc DB 1.0 and all us oracle guru's will be useless against that product. Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if both are frozen. Christopher R. Spence Oracle DBA Fuelspot -Original Message- Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 6:27 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L And tusc has a partnership w/ quest. Weird. tusc does a lot of their recruiting at Barnes and Noble. I think Steve Adams is on the hit list. From: Rachel Carmichael [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TUSC and Kevin Loney Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 12:36:50 -0800 and Steven Feuerstein works for Quest From: Ron Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TUSC and Kevin Loney Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 12:02:09 -0800 I just had a meeting with the TUSC organization in Atlanta GA. and Mike Ault now works for TUSC also. Ron Rogers ROR mª¿ªm [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/04/01 02:51PM I guess I am the last to discover this, but Kevin now works for TUSC. Patrice Boivin Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) Systems Admin Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes Technology Services| Services technologiques Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique Maritimes Region, DFO | Région des Maritimes, MPO E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Boivin, Patrice J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Ron Rogers INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mike Killough INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Christopher Spence INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access
Re: OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney
the heck you say! Good chocolate or none at all... Callebrut From: Mohan, Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 13:27:38 -0800 And Rachel works for Godiva. || -Original Message- || From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] || Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 4:37 PM || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || Subject: Re: TUSC and Kevin Loney || || || and Steven Feuerstein works for Quest || || || From: Ron Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] || Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] || Subject: Re: TUSC and Kevin Loney || Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 12:02:09 -0800 || || I just had a meeting with the TUSC organization in Atlanta || GA. and Mike || Ault now works for TUSC also. || Ron Rogers || ROR mª¿ªm || || [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/04/01 02:51PM || I guess I am the last to discover this, but Kevin now works || for TUSC. || || || Patrice Boivin || Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) || || Systems Admin Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes || Technology Services| Services technologiques || Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique || Maritimes Region, DFO | Région des Maritimes, MPO || || E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] || || -- || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com || -- || Author: Boivin, Patrice J ||INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 || San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / || Mailing Lists || || To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message || to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in || the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L || (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may || also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). || || -- || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com || -- || Author: Ron Rogers ||INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 || San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / || Mailing Lists || || To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message || to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in || the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L || (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may || also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). || || _ || Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com || || -- || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com || -- || Author: Rachel Carmichael || INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 || San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / || Mailing Lists || || To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message || to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in || the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L || (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may || also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). || -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mohan, Ross INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed
