Re: [OGD] Posts in other languages
To Stitz: If for bizarre reasons known only to you (and I hope a good psychologist), you simply cannot abide the presence of non-English postings, block Viateur's email address and you'll never have to see one of them again. Do your own searches for what little English-language orchid news thre is these days, any time you like. Feel free not to share them with the rest of us. Oh, and perhaps most importantly, get over yourself and give the rest of us a break, wouldja? Michael ** It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money amp; Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf000301) ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
Re: [OGD] e-mail autoresponse - a little filtering, maybe?
In a message dated 9/9/07 3:26:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's not like it is any sort of hassle to folks who get this digest to simply scroll past these out-of-office messages. Yes, but by now I think most clients that can autorespond have sophisticated enough filters to _exclude_ emails (as well as select them), not just reply to any and all comers. It's not like there isn't a fairly unique phrase in every subject line -- [OGD] that is. On the other hand, I agree it's really no big deal -- they're easy enough to spot themselves -- especially since the list is hardly flooded with them and most people are probably lucky to know IF they can autorespond at all, let alone tweak it. (Though maybe one or two will look into it, now? LOL) Oh, and if there are a bunch of them on any given day, just sort your inbox by email address and delete them all at one fell swoop Michael ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
Re: [OGD] Den trantuanii - growth orientation, pot vs mount?
Thanks Marni, KP and Maureen. I'm just going pot them up since that's not a problem - much easier on me, and in the longer run, them too. Michael ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Den trantuanii - growth orientation, pot vs mount?
When I've seen Den. trantuanii (aka D. tuananii) growing mounted in cultivation, people mostly orient the old growths downward, but it seems to me the new canes are never pendant - does anyknow how it grows in the wild? And while I'm at it, let me also ask if it's one of those plants that really needs to be mounted, or whether it grows well in pots, too? Thanks. Mike ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
Re: [OGD] PH up chemical
In a message dated 5/31/06 11:39:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does anyone know what the chemical is in "PH up". The dry General Hydroponics stuff I use lists potassium carbonate and potassium hydroxide, in that order. Michael ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
Re: [OGD] We are growing our orchids wrong?
In a message dated 4/27/06 8:55:13 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: f this is the advice coming from the USDA and then through the large orchid producers Not to mention coming directly from the lips of the immediate past president of the self-proclaimed premier orchid society in the world!! Michael ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Schomburgkia compacta = ??
I came across what seems to be a fairly small (not just young) Schomburgkia labelled with the epithet "compacta" - it's about the size of thomsoniana. The seller didn't know anything about it, and as far as I can tell the name doesn't exist, either as a valid species name or a synonym. Unfortunately, the seller didn't even have a picture, but FWIW, it comes from a Thai nursery. Does anyone know if this is a more or less common trade name for a particular species? Michael ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Another compactum, this time Grammatophyllum
A Thai nursery selling at the NY show has what are labelled "Grammatophyllum compactum." They are indeed tiny (bulbs, 1/2" tall, 1-1/2" leaves) and a lot of them are in flower, so they're not just seedlings. and the flowers definitely appear to be straight Grammatophyllum, not some oddball hybrid. The seller didn't know that much about them but says he'd heard of one plant being found several years ago in mainland China, "disappearing," and then re-appearing recently in the form of clones from a large Thai nursery. I tried a few Google searches, but came up with nothing at all. Does anyone know anything about it? I assume it hasn't been formally described, has there been anything in the print media about it at all? Michael ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
Re: [OGD] Clonal Name
In a message dated 9/20/05 10:06:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If there ever was a P. pulchra 'Orchidglade,' it was probably lost in the fungicide disaster or Hurricane Andrew. I think you misunderstood the question. The award was given to a plant labelled Phal. speciosa. Since then, though, it has been concluded by various "authorities" including Christenson in his now-not-so-recent book on phals, that that plant isn't / never was P. speciosa at all, but P. pulchra. So the question remains whether the clonal name given to the spuriously labelled plant "follows" the plant when it is correctly identified later on. I believe the answer is yes, it does, but I'm really not sure. I have no idea what would happen in the presumably rare event that there were already a plant of the later-identified species with the same clonal name. Michael ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
Re: [OGD] Aa genus
In a message dated 6/14/05 6:55:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Charles Ufford [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [OGD] Re: what's in a name, and preserving flowers on 6/13/05 8:57 PM,Michael wrote: I see a couple of objections to this but perhaps most importantly is that it would allow to stand the positively execrable generic name "Aa". :) Michael Hmm, is "Aa" pronounced with one syllable or two? (grin) Or perhaps Aa! (grin) Or perhaps more appropriately "AAHH!" (like the sound I once made when I wanderied into the living room one morning without my glasses on and noticed the dead mouse on the floor a fraction of a second before I stepped on it. LOL ) Michael ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Info on yellow form of Phal. lobbii?
A couple of months ago I bought several plants of what are supposed to be a yellow form of Phal. lobbii from Best of Thai Orchids. (It's labelled "var. brunescens" for what that might be worth, but the guy was very clear about it being a "yellow" form.) I've found a couple of photos on the web of P. lobbii with yellow in various flower parts but the vendor didn't have a photo and I don't know which these are supposed to be. For the curious, the photos are at, respectively: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/bernard.lagrelle/Lobbii/anglais/Phalaenopsis%20lobbii%20anglais.htm and http://www.phals.net/lobbii/index.html . Anyway, this is a long-winded preface to the question whether anyone knows anything about these plants. Have any of these forms been formally described? Are they from the same geographic area as the standard P. lobbii? If anyone grows it/them, do you treat them differently than the standard lobii ? My plants, or several of some of them anyway, have shown signs of foliage and/or spike growth, but no new root growth yet. If I'm doing something wrong, I'd like to fix it before I lose them! Thanks. Michael ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
Re: [OGD] Grower Friendly Name
In a message dated 6/11/05 12:21:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Let's place a new rule, no new name longer than 5 leters, all based on esperanto. I see a couple of objections to this but perhaps most importantly is that it would allow to stand the positively execrable generic name "Aa". :) Michael ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
Re: [OGD] Enc. phoenicea vs. Enc. phoeniceum
In a message dated 5/25/05 11:27:48 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Are they potentially one in the same? They are absolutely one and the same. (As for differences in appearance, it could be differences in age or just normal variation, or one or both could be mislabelled.) This species, among others, used to be called Epidendrum and some people don't quite get that when you change the genus name, the species name may have to change to agree with the grammatical gender of the new (Latinized) genus name. Michael ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
Re: [OGD] translation from Deutsch, please
In a message dated 4/30/05 11:25:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Even if, at a younger age, I took some German courses, I am unable to translate faithfully the following : "Herr Cl. HORICH/Costa Rica teilte mir mit, daß er die gleiche Spezies sogar im Norden Ecuadors in der Nähe der Stadt Pichincha gesehen habe. Leider wurde seine Angabe aus Ecuador weder bestätigt noche dementiert, d.h. ich bekam auf diesbezüggliche Nachfragen keine Antwort." (p. 259) Could you translate that quote to English or French-Spanish-Portuguese ? My German is hardly fluent, but this should be close enough: "Mr. Cl. Horich of Costa Rica informed me that he had also seen the same species in Northen Ecuador, in the vicinity of the city of Pichincha. Unfortunately, its presence in that area has not been confirmed nor denied - that is, I have not gotten a response to [futher] inquiries on the subject." Michael ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
Re: [OGD] import permits in u.s.
In a message dated 4/19/05 9:50:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I obtained an import permit last summer so that I might import a few flasks into the U.S.; is the permit good until the end of the calendar year, good for one or more full years, or ? Isn't there a term on the face of the permit itself? When I got my basic (vs. general) permit in 2000, it said it was good for five years IIRC, and is renewable. Michael ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
Re: [OGD] Psychopsis label, 'Lake View' clonal name, whose?
In a message dated 4/16/05 9:15:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have a Psychopsis that is labeled: Psychopsis Oncidium Lake View 9509033 >From a quick google search, 'Lake View' seems to be a not uncommon clonal name for a variety of hybrids and is presumably used by a particular breeder or nursery. Hopefully someone on the list knows which one and you can ask them to identify your plant by its (presumably, hopefully) ID number. FWIW, it seems the Registrar has switched the Psychopsis-formerly-known-as-Oncidium to Psychopsis for registration purposes and changed the existing entries in their online database. (There is no Psychopsis Lake View or Lakeview, though.) Michael ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
Re: [OGD] PNG orchid book sold out
In a message dated 4/8/05 6:35:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Acclaimed best selling author Peter O'Byrne lamented: they have just sold the last 5 copies of my book "Lowland Orchids of PNG". I can no longer put you in touch with anyone who can sell you the book Fortunately all is not lost. You can still obtain copies from Orchidaceous Books in Australia http://www.orchidaceousbooks.com.au/ (among other bookselleres, no doubt) Cheers...Steve Orchidsbooks.com in Québec (not to be confused with orchidbooks.com in Thailand which despite the name, doesn't appear to sell books about orchids at all!) seems to have it as well. FWIW, I've dealt with them several times to my complete satisfaction. Michael ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
Re: [OGD] Re: Sophronitis formerly Laelia
In a message dated 12/17/04 1:12:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And you thought you only had the move to Sophronitis move to worry about. I haven't really worried about any of it, though I do have some intellectual interest in following the studies. But when it comes to actually changing labels: there are some changes I readily accept and some I'll think about in 20 years when the dust has (maybe?) settled once and for all. This whole Laelia/Sophronitis business *definitely* falls into the latter category. LOL Michael ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
Re: [OGD] Neofinetia flasks or compots
In a message dated 12/7/04 7:14:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does anyone know where I can find flasks or compots of Neofinetia falcata? The only regular source I've ever come across in the US is http://www.orchidflask.com/pages/735431/index.htm . Michael ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
Re: [OGD] Rebuilding the archives or what?
In a message dated 11/25/04 7:15:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am getting a slew of bounce notices for messages I sent to this list in July of 2003! Are you working on recovering the archives or what? Something strange is going on. Maureen www.deefalt.com Me too. Glad I'm not the only one, I was afraid a worm on someone's computer had gotten hold of my email address! Michael ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Robert Hamilton's list of flowering months?
Does anyone know his appendix in Orchid Biology V includes all the information in Mr. Hamilton's self-published, free-standing volume (the second edition)? As far as I can tell the Orchid Biology volume came out several years later so I assume it does, but if I can, I'd like to know for sure. TIA. Michael ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids
Re: [OGD] Re: Hello
I doubt Greg Allikas is trying to do either. It's much more likely that his computer's been infected with a virus/worm or just as likely, someone else's computer has and the worm grabbed Greg's email address from the other person's address book. Fortunately Kenneth has the listserver set to strip attachments so there's no chance of the virus being spread via the list. MG In a message dated 10/8/04 3:32:44 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Subj:RE: [OGD] Re: Hello Date:10/8/04 3:32:44 AM Eastern Daylight Time From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent from the Internet Dear Graphicgreg: Whatever you are trying to do isn't working. Trying it five times in a row does not improve your chances of it working. We all now understand that you are trying to tell us (or sell us) something. Can you tell us in plain language, without trying an illegal attachment? My curiosity is growing. li'l frog -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Graphicgreg Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 11:55 AM To: Orchids Subject: [OGD] Re: Hello :) [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of price.com] ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids Michael ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids
Re: [OGD] Mealy guys
In a message dated 8/29/04 4:37:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Okayone of the things that Enstar II can be tank mixed w/ is Pentac Do you know of a current source for Pentac (in the US)? I tried to find it last year but the quite a few places I called all told me it'd been off the market for several years already. Michael ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids
[OGD] Saltpeter as a fertilizer component?
I'm guessing that USP grade saltpeter is OK to use as a fertilizer component for orchids. Does anyone know anything to the contrary? (I imagine it's much more expensive than buying technical grade potassium nitrate in bulk, but it's readily available here in that form and cheap enough for my experimental purposes.) Michael Gerzog ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids
Re: [OGD] Please, let's stop!
In a message dated 7/16/04 12:02:44 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I asked some simple questions and have now gotten it embroiled in a big political uproar. Do I have to stop writing to the ODG? Can't questions be answered without this hateful, political rhetoric? It is not your doing, Carson. Ask away by all means. Some people will insist on answering in their own special way, almost no matter what the question is, if they're in the mood. There's not much that can be done about it. (I don't think banning people is the answer, even the ones who never seem to otherwise make substantive contributions to the list.) Just delete the flames, like I think most of us do. If you set your email options to receive individual posts, it's even easier to avoid the worst of the flames. Sometimes people are even polite enough to make them clear from the subject lines.g It's not as if this IS politics, so ignoring the rhetoric is a perfectly safe and viable option. Silence can be dangerous, but it's not likely to cause any trouble here on OGD.s If some people want to think silence is consent to their inflammatory postings of opinion and it makes them feel better to do so, bully for them! it has no affect on anyone else. Michael Gerzog ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids
Re: [OGD] The Doctor
In a message dated 7/15/04 11:04:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sorry Mike...Speaking as one who has had to put up with all these things for far too many years...and to NOT get political...YOU ARE WRONG Wrong about what? I have never posted a single opinion - here or anywhere else - about the wisdom or justice of Arias's and Norris's situation. I have posted comments on general politics only very rarely, and based on your comments, it's obvious you've paid no attention to them at all. As for Arias and Norris, I do have my opinions, but see no point in jabbering about them on the web and in listserve emails. It'd do them no good, and I have better things to do with my time. Hell, I have better things to do than type this reply! If you don't like CITES or the Lacey Act, or the prosecution of foreign nationals under the latter, and want to do something with any purpose at all, vote in elections based on fact and proven track record rather than emotion and rhetoric, sign petitions, write to your Senators, write to your Represenatives, write to USFWS, hell, write to the President and the Director of Homeland so-called Security himself! Any of that would serve far more purpose than yammerin g away semi-coherently in orchid forums. As for this thread: please tell me you're not engaging in yet more amateur legal analysis based on wishful thinking. Whether or not you think the Lacey Act and/or CITES, etc. ad nauseam, are WISE laws and treaties, they are perfectly LEGAL laws and treaties. Whether one approves of Arias's arrest and prosecution or not, they were perfectly legal under generally accepted precepts of international law. Period. Full stop. End of discussion. That's a-a-a-ll, folks! This has gone beyond silly. If you're suggesting I'm wrong about the legality under international law of Arias's arrest and/or prosecution, prove it! If you do, I will happily review any accepted legal authority you cite and if by some wild chance I've gotten my wires crossed on this one, I will gladly, if somewhat abashedly, stand corrected. Any other replies I will ignore, I've wasted too much time on this thread as it is. Michael Gerzog ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids
[OGD] international law, stupidity, and even pathos (all for the price of one)
In a message dated 7/14/04 5:06:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The have the right to refuse admission and detain the person until a plain leaves for that person's country or have the right to call in a representative of that person's country from the ambassy. They surely don't have the right to harrass and menatlly and physically torture that person. And what your beloved Lacey act is ... that is not international but US law ... No Lacey Act has ever been passed in any European country. No one ever said the Lacey Act is international law. What I said is that every country in the world asserts extraterritorial jurisdiction to some degree or another, and that the Lacey Act is facially well within accepted parameters in that regard. Do you not understand what extraterritorial jurisdiction means? (Unfortunately, my German dictionary has gone missing for the moment or I would try to find a translation. As it is, I'll leave it as an exercise for the reader.) As for your curious attempts at amateur legal analysis: do you actually have any idea at all what you're talking about, or do you, as I strongly suspect, just make this stuff up as you go along? Before you comment any further on what international law is, you ought to look into it - not just make pronouncements on what you happen to imagine it is or want it to be. I won't tell you to study and train in it - as you suggest anyone who wants to comment about taxonomy should - but you should at least do a little research because you're clearly way out of your depth. Since you're an academic, surely you must be able to find someone at your university who knows something about the subject. If you don't mind being laughed at to your face, check with them about your thoughts on international law and then get back to me. At this point, there really isn't any point in trying to continue what is passing for a discussion of the issue since you aren't discussing anything, you're just stamping your foot and insisting you're right without any attempt at justification. I have neither the time to waste nor the inclination to waste it on a one-sided discussion. If you ever manage to cite any authority for your rather curious positions, I'll be all ears. As for your childish attempts to personalize this by calling it my beloved Lacey Act, well, that's just pathetic. And stupid. I won't deign it with any further comments. Period, as you say, full stop. No wait, I will make one further comment. Go piss up a rope! Preferably against the wind, after drinking a liter of dark beer and half a kilo of asparagus. LOL Michael Gerzog ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids
Re: [OGD] Zygopetalum Rein Moonlight
In a message dated 7/15/04 5:48:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: my computer developed a terminal illness three months ago and I have lost all the information OGD posts are archived - check the page at www.orchidguide.com for links to the archives that are maintained elsewhere. Michael Gerzog ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids
Re: [OGD] Sending Australin Orchids into the USA
I've had packages come from the UK to the US, through the NY/Jamaica station, that got to me about 10 days after they'd been sent by standard Air Mail. They were young seedlings and arrived in great condition. The various inspection stations are said to vary quite a bit, so that may well have something to do with it. Which station are your customer's plants to be routed through? Michael Gerzog ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids
