Re: 2 many messages - News Server needed. - Or we could split the list
Actually, I think the mail list is fine. I use a filter to move these messages into their own folder. Good idea. However, I do feel that some improvement is possible. I recomend splitting the list into a few other lists. Yes - create 2 news groups. The main point of this is the automatic ordering of threads that this allows, in my email client at least. I can see a root message and the whole, dialogic line of consequent messages. What's so wrong with that? Probably the most obvious split is between developers using Orion and administers trying to maintain, configure and install it. Like I said - 2 news groups.
Re: JSP-Compiled Servlets ??
Look in this directory (assuming your app's name is test1): orion root\application-deployments\test1\test1-web\persistence\jsp - Original Message - From: Santosh Kumar To: Orion-Interest Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 10:48 AM Subject: JSP-Compiled Servlets ?? hi all, Weknow that JSP are compiled into servlets. In Jrun, I canview the equivalent servlet source code for the JSP. ButOrion doesnt seem to provide the source as well as class file. All it creates is a binary jsp.Cache file. But my job is to get into the code and see how the servlet is getting written and compare with servlets generated thru other jsp-engines. What do i do? Regards, Santosh Santosh Kumar C == Senior Systems Engineer == Wipro Technologies == 1-8-448, Laxmi Building, S.P. Road, == Begumpet, Secunderabad - 500 003 == A.P, India. == Phone@: 91407896008 Ext 4511 == Fax @: 91407896123 == eMail@: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == url @: http://www.wipro.com == The World's First SEI CMM Level 5 Software Services Company
2 many messages - News Server needed.
Hi Folks, I have not picked up my email for 2 days and have just downloaded 108 Orion-Interest messages. Imagine what would have happened if I had left this job until Friday. I think it is time to turn this thing into a news group. It would also make it easier to see,follow, save contribute to separate threads. In fact I cannot see a reason not to do this. Maybe you can. --Miles DaffinJava DeveloperHOT Company BV Mathernesserlaan 171 3014 HA Rotterdam Land: +31 (0) 10 476 2500Fax: +31 (0) 10 476 5762Mobile: +31 (0) 2959 1423http://www.hotobjects.nl
Re: Orion 1.3.8 and Servlets
Title: RE: Orion 1.3.8 and Servlets
Are core classes reloaded too? I have found that if
I change recompile utility classes used by a Servlet or JSP these are not
updatedif they are already loaded. Servlets and JSPs are (development
="true"). What do you mean by a 'core class'?
- Original Message -
From:
Duffey,
Kevin
To: Orion-Interest
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 6:59
PM
Subject: RE: Orion 1.3.8 and
Servlets
Actually, in orion-web.xml (located in
/orion/application-deployments/app_name/web_app_name/orion-web.xml) there is a
setting for development..which you said. But also there is another option,
called source-directory="/path/dir" and when development="true" every time you
save the file, Orion will auto-reload your web-app for you (and I don't think
it shows you this in its output window..but maybe it does). I have not been
able to see this work, mostly because if ANY of your HttpSession objects do
not implement Serializable, it wont' work for some reason. Our code is jacked
up enough where we do not do it right. Anyways, Orion and Resin are the only
two servlet engines (Orion being a full J2EE app server too) that auto-reload
your entire app, even if you change code in a "core" class. Most app servers
and servlet engines reload only servlets and/or JSPs/javabeans, not core
classes, and so on. Just make sure when you deploy to production your turn
development off ("false"). In the /docs folder, look at
orion-web.xml.html..it will explain this to you.
-Original Message-From: Hani Suleiman
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 7:16
AMTo: Orion-InterestSubject: RE: Orion 1.3.8 and
Servlets
If you 'touch' any of the configuration files for your
application (eg, web.xml), then Orion will reload that app. I use an ant
build script which after installing the app, uses the touch task to force
Orion to reload.
-Original Message- From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To:
Orion-Interest Sent: 10/16/2000 9:48 AM
Subject: Orion 1.3.8 and Servlets
Guys,
I have this small problem with my servlets..
whenever I make changes to them and recompile them, I have
to restart my orion for the changes to take effect..
I know there is a development mode which auto
compiles the files but I suppose that only applies
to JSP's ?
so what I would like to know is whether it is possible to
compile servlets and have the changes take effect
immediately without having to restart, kinda like
installing a new .ear or .war file.
sincerely,
Arjan Wijnveen MarketXS B.V.
Re: orionsupport.com
I think better sources of information then the standard documentation is great and very helpful for people using Orion. I have sometimes great difficulties getting things sorted out to the extend I'm wondering whether I'm on the right track. Assuming I'm not the only one in that situation, I guess more documentation and more easy to understand examples is something a lot of (potential) Orion users will be happy with (I wish the guys of Orion lots of licence sales to be able to spend more resources on better documentation). Hear hear! Great server - pity they have so far not gone that Xtra mile.
Re: displaying xml
How about something like-a-this as well: http://www.c2.com/cgi/wiki?WikiWikiWeb - Original Message - From: Hani Suleiman To: Orion-Interest Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 2:57 AM Subject: RE: displaying xml Or how about a faq-o-matic? Seems ideal for this kind of thing. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Porfiriev SergeySent: Monday, October 16, 2000 8:33 PMTo: Orion-InterestSubject: Re: displaying xml To Magnus Karl Avedal: it will be good idea to open "users contribution" topic at www.OrionServer.com ( like orionsupport was). and as result traffic in orion-interest will be decreased :) - Original Message - From: Derek Akers To: Orion-Interest Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 6:44 PM Subject: Re: displaying xml Hi Troy, thanks, but I've already tried. the pre /pre tags do preserve the indentation of the XML, but do not allow for the displaying of tags for some reason. 1) use xmp /xmp tags - pre can;'t help. 2) use this xsl for XML parsing - ( i use it with Salaman's Saxon XSLT engine, but it will work under Orion default XSLT (xerces)) it will display your XML as HTML with XML reformating and coloring xsl:stylesheet xmlns:xsl="http://www.w3.org/1999/XSL/Transform" version="1.0"xsl:output method="html" encoding="windows-1251" indent="yes"/ !-- Generic stylesheet for viewing XML --!-- This stylesheet has been modified to use modes instead of nested templates. --!-- Last Updated by Parf: moved to lotus xsl, main tag fix -- xsl:template match="/" HTML xsl:apply-templates/ /HTML /xsl:template xsl:template match="node()" xsl:if test="name()!='xml-stylesheet'" bbigxsl:textlt;/xsl:textxsl:value-of select="name()"/xsl:textgt;/xsl:text/big/bbr/ DIV STYLE="font-family:Courier; font-size:10pt; margin-bottom:0em" xsl:apply-templates mode="inside"/ /DIV bbigxsl:textlt;//xsl:textxsl:value-of select="name()"/xsl:textgt;/xsl:text/big/b /xsl:if /xsl:template xsl:template match="*" mode="inside" DIV STYLE="margin-left:1em" SPAN STYLE="color:blue" xsl:textlt;/xsl:text bxsl:value-of select="name()"//b xsl:for-each select="@*" xsl:call-template name="attribute"/ /xsl:for-each xsl:choose xsl:when test="self::node()" xsl:textgt;/xsl:text xsl:apply-templates mode="inside"/ xsl:textlt;//xsl:text xsl:value-of select="name()"/ xsl:textgt;/xsl:text /xsl:when xsl:otherwise xsl:text/gt;/xsl:text /xsl:otherwise /xsl:choose /SPAN /DIV /xsl:template xsl:template name="attribute" SPAN STYLE="color:navy" xsl:text /xsl:text xsl:value-of select="name()"/ xsl:text="/xsl:text SPAN STYLE="color:black" xsl:value-of select="."/ /SPAN xsl:text"/xsl:text /SPAN /xsl:template xsl:template match="comment()" mode="inside" SPAN STYLE="color:orange" xsl:textlt;!--/xsl:textxsl:value-of select="."/xsl:text--gt;/xsl:text /SPAN /xsl:template xsl:template match="processing-instruction()" mode="inside" DIV STYLE="margin-left:1em; color:maroon" xsl:textlt;?/xsl:text xsl:value-of select="name"/ xsl:text /xsl:text xsl:value-of select="."/ xsl:text?gt;/xsl:text /DIV /xsl:template xsl:template match="text()" mode="inside" SPAN STYLE="color:green" xsl:value-of select="."/ /SPAN /xsl:template /xsl:stylesheet - Original Message - From: Troy E. Echols To: Orion-Interest Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 5:09 PM Subject: Re: displaying xml Perhaps enclosing the xml in pre /pre will work. Troy Echols Derek Akers wrote: Hi all... I am trying to display the contents of an XML file to the screen, embedded inside a JSP page. That is, I want to include a header and footer on the page (for navigation purposes), with the XML in the middle. I want the text to be viewable literally (tags all), but I have been unable to find a solution...I thought maybe the contentType attribute of the %@ page % directive might do it, but it seems not.Does anyone know of a way to do this?Derek AkersInternet Application Developer Eldan Software, Toronto (416) 341-0070 www.eldan.com
Re: displaying xml
If Orion included documentation that was half as decent as their most excellent server then perhaps the volume of confused, didn't read the readme.txt file, newbie questions would decrease. Where are the bird's-eye view diagrams - server architecture, topology, relationships between xml files etc? Not that hard for a good developer to knock up, and clearer by far than pages of liner descriptions. The lack of self starters? Here? You have GOT to be kidding! --On Tuesday, October 17, 2000 8:11 AM -0400 "Joseph B. Ottinger" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or, of course, orionsupport.com, which I know at least two other people might be working on, and I'm considering reviving it myself. Although, honestly, the lack of self-starters here is rather annoying... "Why doesn't somebody ELSE do it" is a crappy way to go about development. On Mon, 16 Oct 2000, Hani Suleiman wrote: Or how about a faq-o-matic? Seems ideal for this kind of thing. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Porfiriev Sergey Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 8:33 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: displaying xml To Magnus Karl Avedal: it will be good idea to open "users contribution" topic at www.OrionServer.com http://www.OrionServer.com ( like orionsupport was). and as result traffic in orion-interest will be decreased :) - Original Message - From: Derek Akers mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Orion-Interest mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 6:44 PM Subject: Re: displaying xml Hi Troy, thanks, but I've already tried. the pre /pre tags do preserve the indentation of the XML, but do not allow for the displaying of tags for some reason. 1) use xmp /xmp tags - pre can;'t help. 2) use this xsl for XML parsing - ( i use it with Salaman's Saxon XSLT engine, but it will work under Orion default XSLT (xerces)) it will display your XML as HTML with XML reformating and coloring xsl:stylesheet xmlns:xsl=" http://www.w3.org/1999/XSL/Transform http://www.w3.org/1999/XSL/Transform" version="1.0" xsl:output method="html" encoding="windows-1251" indent="yes"/ !-- Generic stylesheet for viewing XML -- !-- This stylesheet has been modified to use modes instead of nested templates. -- !-- Last Updated by Parf: moved to lotus xsl, main tag fix -- xsl:template match="/" HTML xsl:apply-templates/ /HTML /xsl:template xsl:template match="node()" xsl:if test="name()!='xml-stylesheet'" bbigxsl:textlt;/xsl:textxsl:value-of select="name()"/xsl:textgt;/xsl:text/big/bbr/ DIV DEFANGED_STYLE="font-family:Courier; font-size:10pt; margin-bottom:0em" xsl:apply-templates mode="inside"/ /DIV bbigxsl:textlt;//xsl:textxsl:value-of select="name()"/xsl:textgt;/xsl:text/big/b /xsl:if /xsl:template xsl:template match="*" mode="inside" DIV DEFANGED_STYLE="margin-left:1em" SPAN DEFANGED_STYLE="color:blue" xsl:textlt;/xsl:text bxsl:value-of select="name()"//b xsl:for-each select="@*" xsl:call-template name="attribute"/ /xsl:for-each xsl:choose xsl:when test="self::node()" xsl:textgt;/xsl:text xsl:apply-templates mode="inside"/ xsl:textlt;//xsl:text xsl:value-of select="name()"/ xsl:textgt;/xsl:text /xsl:when xsl:otherwise xsl:text/gt;/xsl:text /xsl:otherwise /xsl:choose /SPAN /DIV /xsl:template xsl:template name="attribute" SPAN DEFANGED_STYLE="color:navy" xsl:text /xsl:text xsl:value-of select="name()"/ xsl:text="/xsl:text SPAN DEFANGED_STYLE="color:black" xsl:value-of select="."/ /SPAN xsl:text"/xsl:text /SPAN /xsl:template xsl:template match="comment()" mode="inside" SPAN DEFANGED_STYLE="color:orange" xsl:textlt;!--/xsl:textxsl:value-of select="."/xsl:text--gt;/xsl:text /SPAN /xsl:template xsl:template match="processing-instruction()" mode="inside" DIV DEFANGED_STYLE="margin-left:1em; color:maroon" xsl:textlt;?/xsl:text xsl:value-of select="name"/ xsl:text /xsl:text xsl:value-of select="."/ xsl:text?gt;/xsl:text /DIV /xsl:template xsl:template match="text()" mode="inside" SPAN DEFANGED_STYLE="color:green" xsl:value-of select="."/ /SPAN /xsl:template /xsl:stylesheet - Original Message - From: Troy E. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Echols To: Orion-Interest mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 5:09 PM Subject: Re: displaying xml Perhaps enclosing the xml in pre /pre will work. Troy Echols Derek Akers wrote: Hi
Library path.
Hi People,
The /config/application.xml definesa general
library path for theServer.
library path="../lib" /
Is it possible to:
1) Add to this. If so what is the syntax? (';' as a
path separator within the same quotes?)
2) I would like to have custom lib paths for each
app. Can this be done? (I have tried adding the library tag to an
application.xml without success).
If I have missed something in the documentation
please point out the page.
Thanks.
--Miles DaffinJava
DeveloperHOT Company BV Mathernesserlaan 171 3014 HA
Rotterdam
Land: +31 (0) 10 476 2500Fax: +31 (0) 10 476
5762Mobile: +31 (0) 2959 1423http://www.hotobjects.nl
Re: NEWBIE QUESTION: How do I shut this thing down
See the 'orion/Readme.txt' (should be renamed to README_FIRST.txt - I missed it for days). Follow the instructions. General ACL stuff is set in /config/principals.xml. * To shutdown:java -jar admin.jar ormi://localhost/ adminID adminPass -shutdown * To restart:java -jar admin.jar ormi://localhost/ adminID adminPass -restart Some people (me too) have had trouble with -restart command. You can get all kinds of Exceptions at various times, and I cannot see why (the weather?). I run all commands from batch files so I know it's not typos. Mostly it works but sometimes it doesn't. -shutdown almost always works. Ctrl + C works every time! Hi Guys, I have trawled through the docs to try and find a way to shut orion down cleanly, however I can't find the default username and password in order to shut it down. Can you guys let me know what it is? cheers Rob
Re: NEWBIE QUESTION:Configuring a web application, that is not contained in a WAR file
Can you give me a brief overview of how to get Orion to serve this application. 1) Have you go the thing to serve the default website and its default application? 2) If 1 look at the supplied docs - the How-To's section. 3) Then look at: http://www.znerd.demon.nl/orion-primer/ Summary of Primer: ## BASIC STEPS ### Step 1: Setup directory structure Snip Step 8: Write the Web deployment descriptor - web.xml: Servlets aliases. Snip Step 10: Install the application To actually install our application, we need to add the following line to server.xml in the Orion configuration directory (orion/config): application name="orion-primer" path="path to ear file" / In my case: application name="orion-primer" path="/home/ernst/projects/orion-primer/rel/orion-primer.ear" / Step 11: Bind the web application - *** Now we need to bind the web application to the default site. This is done by adding the following line to the file default-web-site.xml in the Orion configuration directory: web-app application="orion-primer" name="orion-primer-web" root="/orion-primer" / Step 12: Start Orion I combined this with the directory structure suggested in the How-To's section: /docs/application-creation-howto.html. It takes a while to get your head around the relationships between the varios XML files - Orion's and the ones that link up an app. I have got an app serving HTML, JSP, Servlet as a basic development env in about 3/4 days.
Re: NEWBIE QUESTION:Configuring a web application, that is not contained in a WAR file
Can you give me a brief overview of how to get Orion to serve this application. 1) Have you go the thing to serve the default website and its default application? 2) If 1 look at the supplied docs - the How-To's section. 3) Then look at: http://www.znerd.demon.nl/orion-primer/ Summary of Primer: ## BASIC STEPS ### Step 1: Setup directory structure Snip Step 8: Write the Web deployment descriptor - web.xml: Servlets aliases. Snip Step 10: Install the application To actually install our application, we need to add the following line to server.xml in the Orion configuration directory (orion/config): application name="orion-primer" path="path to ear file" / In my case: application name="orion-primer" path="/home/ernst/projects/orion-primer/rel/orion-primer.ear" / Step 11: Bind the web application - *** Now we need to bind the web application to the default site. This is done by adding the following line to the file default-web-site.xml in the Orion configuration directory: web-app application="orion-primer" name="orion-primer-web" root="/orion-primer" / Step 12: Start Orion I combined this with the directory structure suggested in the How-To's section: /docs/application-creation-howto.html. It takes a while to get your head around the relationships between the varios XML files - Orion's and the ones that link up an app. I have got an app serving HTML, JSP, Servlet as a basic development env in about 3/4 days. You don't need to mess with EJBs at 1st, if ever Last tip: look at the Orion default web app structure.
Re: New 2 Orion.
Mark, I found this in the ReadMe.txt in the Orion install dir: See the NB: below. The general passwords are in config/principals.xml --- Please visit http://www.orionserver.com or send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for information about this product. This version is only for development use or for non-commercialuse. You need to purchase a license from http://www.orionserver.comto be able to use this server commercially. ** NB: You need this bit ** To install the server:java -jar orion.jar -installfollow the instructions To start the server:java -jar orion.jarorjava -jar orion.jar -config my/path/to/server.xml Good luck!The Orion team This product uses Hypersonic SQL as an example database, more info aboutHypersonic SQL can be found at http://hsql.oron.ch/. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Orion-Interest Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 3:43 AM Subject: RE: New 2 Orion. Where is "youradminpw" configured? Presumably one of the various XML files, but which one, and is there an example? Haven't been able to find it in the docs. Thanks! --Mark Nathan Phelps [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/07/00 12:43 PM Please respond to Orion-Interest To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: New 2 Orion.1.) You can cleanly shut Orion down using the following command: java -jar admin.jar ormi://yourservername admin youradminpw -shutdown Or, you can use the Orion console by right-clicking on the Server and choosing Shutdown from the Context-sensitive menu. 2.) See http://www.znerd.demon.nl/orion-primer/ -Original Message-From: Miles Daffin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2000 2:12 PMTo: Orion-InterestSubject: New 2 Orion.Hi, I have 2 questions for the Community: 1) I can start Orion (1.3.8) using a batch file but I cannot believe that the only way to stop it is 'Ctrl - c'. Is it? 2) I find the instructions for creating a new application a little scanty - does anyone know where I can find a real idiots', step by tedious step, guide to setting up an alternative to the default application? Thanks. --Miles Daffin Java Developer, Netherlands. Land: +31 (0)10 476 2412Mobile: +31 (0)6 2959 1423Permanent email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: hi all
Question 1. The doubt is about System.out.println() System is a class and out is a variable in System class. Yes - a public static one, which means: a) The world can use it. b) When the world wants to use it they prefix the name of the owning class rather than an instance reference. a.how can you call println in System class. println() is not in the System class, it is in the PrintStream class. You are accessing System's public instance, which by default is wired to 'the screen'. Question 2. AppletContext is an interface.you cannot create objects of interface. but when you call getAppletContext() method you get an object of the interface.How is this possible. You are getting an implementation of the interface, an object instantiated from a class definition that implements this interface. You see this object from the point of view of the interface type reference. In RMI also i saw a method which will give an object for an interface. how is it possible. For the same reason as above. This is a common way of cutting down on implementation dependencies within systems. You define an interface (e.g. 'public interface Plok' instead of 'public class Plok'), containing a set of method signatures but no method bodies. It is possible then to swap (even 'hot-swap' at run time) implementations (e.g. from IBM, Sun, Netscape) without breaking the rest of the code. It takes a while to fully grasp the potential of this, one of the most powerful feature of the Java language. MD
Re: Getting all messages twice today
Hi; I am receiving all messages from the Orion interest group twice. Is anyone else having this problem today? Cathy Dull You certainly aren't ;-)) Me 2! Me 2! Me 2! Me 2! Me 2! Me 2! Me 2! Me 2! Me 2! Me 2!
Re: Getting all messages twice today
Hi; I am receiving all messages from the Orion interest group twice. Is anyone else having this problem today? Cathy Dull You certainly aren't ;- Me 2! Me 2! Me 2! Me 2! Me 2! Me 2! Me 2! Me 2! Me 2! Me 2!
Re: how to capture stdout ?
Until someone tells you the proper waytry this in a Servlet or JSP:
File outFile = new File("./System.out.txt");
FileOutputStream fOut = new FileOutputStream(outFile);
PrintStream sysOut = new PrintStream(fOut);
//
File errFile = new File("./System.err.txt");
FileOutputStream fErr = new FileOutputStream(errFile);
PrintStream sysErr = new PrintStream(fErr);
//
System.setOut(sysOut);
System.setErr(sysErr);
//
System.out.println("System.out.println()");
System.err.println("System.err.println()");
--
Miles Daffin
Java Developer, Netherlands.
Land: +31 (0)10 476 2412
Mobile: +31 (0)6 2959 1423
Permanent email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Original Message -
From: "TH Lim" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Orion-Interest" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 1:56 PM
Subject: how to capture stdout ?
Hi!
Is there a setting in Orion server where allows me to capture
System.out.println() and System.err.println() in a file? If so, how do set
it?
thank you
/lim/
Re: New 2 Orion.
I have now got all 3 basic commands to work from bat files. See attachments. The key thing was omitting the port number from the ormi://host argument (thanks shailesh j). -- Miles Daffin Java Developer, Netherlands. Land: +31 (0)10 476 2412 Mobile: +31 (0)6 2959 1423 Permanent email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Luis M Bernardo" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Orion-Interest" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 5:17 PM Subject: RE: New 2 Orion. On Sat, 7 Oct 2000, Nathan Phelps wrote: 1.) You can cleanly shut Orion down using the following command: java -jar admin.jar ormi://yourservername admin youradminpw -shutdown Or, you can use the Orion console by right-clicking on the Server and choosing Shutdown from the Context-sensitive menu. does the -restart switch also works? it doesn't work with me. this is the error I get: C:\orionjava -jar admin.jar ormi://localhost admin xx -shutdown C:\orionjava -jar admin.jar ormi://localhost admin henp123 -restart Error: javax.naming.NamingException: Lookup error: java.net.ConnectException: Co nnection refused: no further information; nested exception is: java.net.ConnectException: Connection refused: no further information what is the difference between "java -jar admin -restart" and "java -jar orion.jar"? thanks. StartServer.bat RestartServer.bat StopServer.bat
Re: EJB vs Servlets
I thought the main idea was that once you had creaed your J2EE deployable App you could pick it up (in the form of one neat package/jar) and dump it into any J2EE compliant container - W.O.R.A. la! Your EJBs implement all the necessary interfaces to allow any J2EE container to manage them in a multiplicity of ways. The only real question is viability - just how much load can you app take? BTW I think (am not certain) there are compliance issues if you use 'good' tools like VAJ to generate your EJBs. Great if you really like or want ot use WebSphere? - Original Message - From: "Russ White" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Orion-Interest" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 8:32 PM Subject: RE: EJB vs Servlets You should read up on J2EE so you can understand what separation of data/logic/presentation is all about. I would recommend any of the O'Reilly books on the subject(s). Also Development of EJBs is very simple. Especially with a good IDE like VA, Forte, or JBuilder. Orion even comes with a simple tool for creating very useful EntityBeans from a GUI. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Duffey, Kevin Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 1:22 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: EJB vs Servlets Hey all, I know this is a little off-topic, but seeing as how Orion is about the only fully compliant EJB server, I figured this would be a better place to ask. Lately I have talked to a number of people that have been moving towards EJB and pulled back because they have found it to be more tedious to develop, as well as the end result was slower than just using Servlets. I ask this because it appears to me that the servlet engine (at least with 2.2) being able to be failed over, load-balanced, etc, seems to be quite as capable for scalability and fault-tolerance as the ejb engine used to be. I do realize that the EJB container offers transaction management, but connection pooling is available in the servlet engine at the server level as well. So, if you lose speed in development time and performance, what is the real benefits of moving to EJB? I should say this with caution..I am sure the EJB engine/container offers some things the servlet container doesn't, but I would think its possible to actually put those abilities in the servlet container. Anyways..I'll be interested in hearing any feedback on this. Thanks.
Restart.
The only time I get this particular 'java.net.ConnectException' on a -restart is if the server is not actually running. I guess it has something to do with the port that the 'ormi://servername' argument ends up picking. Try not specifying a port (worked for me) or specifying the default rmi port (defined in some people's orion/config/rmi.xml file...?) - Original Message - From: "Luis M Bernardo" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Orion-Interest" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 5:17 PM Subject: RE: New 2 Orion. On Sat, 7 Oct 2000, Nathan Phelps wrote: 1.) You can cleanly shut Orion down using the following command: java -jar admin.jar ormi://yourservername admin youradminpw -shutdown Or, you can use the Orion console by right-clicking on the Server and choosing Shutdown from the Context-sensitive menu. does the -restart switch also works? it doesn't work with me. this is the error I get: C:\orionjava -jar admin.jar ormi://localhost admin xx -shutdown C:\orionjava -jar admin.jar ormi://localhost admin henp123 -restart Error: javax.naming.NamingException: Lookup error: java.net.ConnectException: Co nnection refused: no further information; nested exception is: java.net.ConnectException: Connection refused: no further information what is the difference between "java -jar admin -restart" and "java -jar orion.jar"? thanks.
New 2 Orion.
Hi, I have 2 questions for the Community: 1) I can start Orion (1.3.8) usinga batch file but I cannot believe that the only way to stop it is 'Ctrl - c'. Is it? 2) I find the instructions for creating a new application a little scanty - does anyone know where I can find a real idiots', step by tedious step, guide to setting up an alternative to the default application? Thanks. --Miles DaffinJava Developer, Netherlands. Land: +31 (0)10 476 2412Mobile: +31 (0)6 2959 1423Permanent email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
