Re: [osdcmy] Mewujudkan Komuniti OSS Di Kalangan Kakitangan Kerajaan
ye.. try tnya cikgu ayob 2011/4/3 Basyeer Linux basyeer_li...@sabily.my SUK Perak aktif dalam OSS? info baru.. elok juga, memang sedang mencari hala tuju di Perak ini 2011/4/3 Hasanuddin Abu Bakar bizkut...@gmail.com On 3 Apr 2011, at 02:01, riZer Enterprise rizerenterpr...@gmail.com wrote: perlis open source initiative committee POSIC kemana menghilang menyenyapkan diri call 0194552670 if u r up something bro Aku ada kat perlis sekarang tgh usya projek kat sini. Ada sesiapa yang boleh consult/propose zimbra full solution untuk 1.2juta user? Urgent!! Sila email aku. Kalau lambat melopong.harap maklum 2011/4/2 MASOKIS maso...@gmail.commaso...@gmail.com Tumpang tanya... kat institusi saya..setiap semester ada saja penceramah OSS datang memberikan taklimat. Tapi kenapa IPT saya masih mengunakan perisian bukan sumber terbuka ? dan kenapa gunakan perisian cetak rompak..urmmm... pelik2.. -- VISIT ME @ HTTP://WWW.MASOKIS.COMHTTP://WWW.MASOKIS.COM -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- -- *Maui Sabily 2011* mauisab...@sabily.org *GPG KeyID*: DBDA3074 *GPG Fingerprint*: 3CCE D281 C894 4FB0 3D22 2141 75C6 E41F DBDA 3074 Soire Meira 2008 - 2011 EascobaNET, Inc 2006 - 2010 Ch0kL@Thack 2002 PaleoY2K 1998 - 2000 http://www.sabily.my http://www.sabily-my.tk Developer: Sabily NetBook Remix 10.10 Al-Qudshttp://mirror.spanasia.net/pub/simpleLinux/Pub/sabily.my/SabilyNR.iso Sabily Zakat Calc 0.2-1 Beta (Debian) https://launchpad.net/zakat-calc Asmawi Office 0.1 Alpha (Webase Presentiton) http://www.asmawioffice.tk/ Soire TV Radio http://www.soire.webs.com/ (Windows Only - continue version on Linux) BrutuSamaDia http://www.soire.webs.com/ (Remote Desktop Penetration Testing) Mauiware.AYU.0.6 http://www.soire.webs.com/ (Virus Cleanner Get Back Hidden Files) Malicious of Dark Knight - Hack To Learn, Don't Learn To Hack -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] Mewujudkan Komuniti OSS Di Kalangan Kakitangan Kerajaan
@ayob.alhambra cikgu yob boleh tak perkenalkan SUK dari Perak? Mungkin boleh buat meetup untuk teh-tarik session azhar 2011/4/3 Soire Meira soire...@gmail.com ye.. try tnya cikgu ayob 2011/4/3 Basyeer Linux basyeer_li...@sabily.my SUK Perak aktif dalam OSS? info baru.. elok juga, memang sedang mencari hala tuju di Perak ini 2011/4/3 Hasanuddin Abu Bakar bizkut...@gmail.com On 3 Apr 2011, at 02:01, riZer Enterprise rizerenterpr...@gmail.com wrote: perlis open source initiative committee POSIC kemana menghilang menyenyapkan diri call 0194552670 if u r up something bro Aku ada kat perlis sekarang tgh usya projek kat sini. Ada sesiapa yang boleh consult/propose zimbra full solution untuk 1.2juta user? Urgent!! Sila email aku. Kalau lambat melopong.harap maklum 2011/4/2 MASOKIS maso...@gmail.commaso...@gmail.com Tumpang tanya... kat institusi saya..setiap semester ada saja penceramah OSS datang memberikan taklimat. Tapi kenapa IPT saya masih mengunakan perisian bukan sumber terbuka ? dan kenapa gunakan perisian cetak rompak..urmmm... pelik2.. -- VISIT ME @ HTTP://WWW.MASOKIS.COMHTTP://WWW.MASOKIS.COM -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- -- *Maui Sabily 2011* mauisab...@sabily.org *GPG KeyID*: DBDA3074 *GPG Fingerprint*: 3CCE D281 C894 4FB0 3D22 2141 75C6 E41F DBDA 3074 Soire Meira 2008 - 2011 EascobaNET, Inc 2006 - 2010 Ch0kL@Thack 2002 PaleoY2K 1998 - 2000 http://www.sabily.my http://www.sabily-my.tk Developer: Sabily NetBook Remix 10.10 Al-Qudshttp://mirror.spanasia.net/pub/simpleLinux/Pub/sabily.my/SabilyNR.iso Sabily Zakat Calc 0.2-1 Beta (Debian) https://launchpad.net/zakat-calc Asmawi Office 0.1 Alpha (Webase Presentiton) http://www.asmawioffice.tk/ Soire TV Radio http://www.soire.webs.com/ (Windows Only - continue version on Linux) BrutuSamaDia http://www.soire.webs.com/ (Remote Desktop Penetration Testing) Mauiware.AYU.0.6 http://www.soire.webs.com/ (Virus Cleanner Get Back Hidden Files) Malicious of Dark Knight - Hack To Learn, Don't Learn To Hack -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] Mewujudkan Komuniti OSS Di Kalangan Kakitangan Kerajaan
+1 Boleh jugak join kalau berkesempatan. 2011/4/3 riZer Enterprise rizerenterpr...@gmail.com @ayob.alhambra cikgu yob boleh tak perkenalkan SUK dari Perak? Mungkin boleh buat meetup untuk teh-tarik session azhar 2011/4/3 Soire Meira soire...@gmail.com ye.. try tnya cikgu ayob 2011/4/3 Basyeer Linux basyeer_li...@sabily.my SUK Perak aktif dalam OSS? info baru.. elok juga, memang sedang mencari hala tuju di Perak ini 2011/4/3 Hasanuddin Abu Bakar bizkut...@gmail.com On 3 Apr 2011, at 02:01, riZer Enterprise rizerenterpr...@gmail.com wrote: perlis open source initiative committee POSIC kemana menghilang menyenyapkan diri call 0194552670 if u r up something bro Aku ada kat perlis sekarang tgh usya projek kat sini. Ada sesiapa yang boleh consult/propose zimbra full solution untuk 1.2juta user? Urgent!! Sila email aku. Kalau lambat melopong.harap maklum 2011/4/2 MASOKIS maso...@gmail.commaso...@gmail.com Tumpang tanya... kat institusi saya..setiap semester ada saja penceramah OSS datang memberikan taklimat. Tapi kenapa IPT saya masih mengunakan perisian bukan sumber terbuka ? dan kenapa gunakan perisian cetak rompak..urmmm... pelik2.. -- VISIT ME @ http://www.masokis.com/HTTP://WWW.MASOKIS.COMhttp://www.masokis.com/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- -- *Maui Sabily 2011* mauisab...@sabily.org *GPG KeyID*: DBDA3074 *GPG Fingerprint*: 3CCE D281 C894 4FB0 3D22 2141 75C6 E41F DBDA 3074 Soire Meira 2008 - 2011 EascobaNET, Inc 2006 - 2010 Ch0kL@Thack 2002 PaleoY2K 1998 - 2000 http://www.sabily.my http://www.sabily-my.tk Developer: Sabily NetBook Remix 10.10 Al-Qudshttp://mirror.spanasia.net/pub/simpleLinux/Pub/sabily.my/SabilyNR.iso Sabily Zakat Calc 0.2-1 Beta (Debian) https://launchpad.net/zakat-calc Asmawi Office 0.1 Alpha (Webase Presentiton)http://www.asmawioffice.tk/ Soire TV Radio http://www.soire.webs.com/ (Windows Only - continue version on Linux) BrutuSamaDia http://www.soire.webs.com/ (Remote Desktop Penetration Testing) Mauiware.AYU.0.6 http://www.soire.webs.com/ (Virus Cleanner Get Back Hidden Files) Malicious of Dark Knight - Hack To Learn, Don't Learn To Hack -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- Aku Tetap Aku™ http://maklan.blogspot.com/ https://launchpad.net/~maklanx http://www.facebook.com/mohamadimranishak -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
[osdcmy] Re: Mewujudkan Komuniti OSS Di Kalangan Kakitangan Kerajaan
Assalamualaikumkawan2.. terkejut awak,,,nama saya disebut,, saya pun baru tahu...SUK perak...aktif dalam OSS... rasanya...kalo untuk menghubungkan staf2 dI SUK Perak.. InsyaALLAH..boleh saya usahakan...mungkin untuk perkenalan dahulu.. apapun kita perlu nyatakan tujuan-tujuan yang boleh dinyatakan kepada pihak SUK Perak... -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] Re: Mewujudkan Komuniti OSS Di Kalangan Kakitangan Kerajaan
Salah satunya, KOSTEM http://laman.kostem.my/ :) Pada 3 April 2011 3:49 PM, cikgu ayob ayob.alham...@gmail.com menulis: Assalamualaikumkawan2.. terkejut awak,,,nama saya disebut,, saya pun baru tahu...SUK perak...aktif dalam OSS... rasanya...kalo untuk menghubungkan staf2 dI SUK Perak.. InsyaALLAH..boleh saya usahakan...mungkin untuk perkenalan dahulu.. apapun kita perlu nyatakan tujuan-tujuan yang boleh dinyatakan kepada pihak SUK Perak... -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- Aku Tetap Aku™ http://maklan.blogspot.com/ https://launchpad.net/~maklanx http://www.facebook.com/mohamadimranishak -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] LPI Certified and other linux certified
hi Red1 On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 2:58 AM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: btw Boh, how did u know it involved an Exocet? You are on the watchlist now my friend :) I was just guessing, are you admitting its an Exocet!? ;-) Pls keep it away from my backyard ;-) Ok back to the log book argument. Why not go back to our own best practice? Show me your code. No, not from your notebook. From SourceForge template or other repository and there we can examine trackers and their log entries to see if they follow the discipline or not. I learnt alot while working on the ADempiere project using SourceForge. Stuff such as FR, Bug trackers, auto numbering; atomic mapping of each tracker to each bug fix and commit; describing how to replicate the bug, and which Bug tracker number refers to which commit revision. Just an idea on how to be lazy fruitfully. I agree, any CVS (Code Versioning System) and/or Issue/BugTracking system is also equivalent to a log book. How many proprietry projects actually use those tools? OSDC care to take a survey? On 4/3/11 2:19 AM, Boh Yap wrote: ah, good discussion, logbook vs exams, lets carry on... These are 2 different paradigms, From the employee POV: -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- #--- regds, Boh Heong, Yap -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] LPI Certified and other linux certified
Raja, good points. The keyword from your post is skilled apprenticeship. Other professions practice this, Accountants, Lawyers, doctors but not IT! A guy that just got is Acct Degree doesn't get to be a CFO or manage a multi-million project, a fresh pilot doesnt get to be captain, he flies as a co-pilot first.. but iike you say, a fresh IT grad gets to be a PM! Only in boleh-land! Maybe there should be some guidelines about apprenticeships... maybe OSDC should start offerring consultancy to HR depts, on how to hire IT personel... Commenting on yr hiring objectives, it is not the technical skills that i look for. it is their pre-disposition to acquire and adapt technical skills.. its not wrong, but don't you/we think it reflects sadly on our training intituitions? We SHOULD BE hiring for technical skills! If I'm a owner of a data-centre, I want to be able to hire a cloud-computing expert but alas, our Edu system can't produce any of them. So I hire some person whom I think has a right aptitude and train them on the job! Don't you/anybody think this is the wrong picture!! On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com wrote: when interviewing fresh graduates i use these : academic - as a measure of discipline, those with 3.5 cgpa grades tend to be more dateline and time concious project work - as a measure of independent research on the topic (esp literature review) blogs, forums, etc - as a measure of communicating with peers 3 years' ambition - as a measure of dedication it is not the technical skills that i look for. it is their pre-disposition to acquire and adapt technical skills red1, has some pretty weird criteria, like carrying the sifu's bag.. hahaha... i would love to have some of those too by the way, training for rhce in india is only rm600, compared to rm3000 in malaysia. exam fees are the same. some of my friends from india say it is cheaper to get certification than to get a car driving license (small bits of info that dont get published). also in india, there is still the culture of skilled apprenticeship, whereas kat malaysia boleh land, economics graduate pun boleh jadi multi-million ringgit ict project director (lepas tu project director sakit jantung sebab the pmp certified project manager tak buat project management, instead sibuk buat functional giler) On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 2:58 AM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: btw Boh, how did u know it involved an Exocet? You are on the watchlist now my friend :) Ok back to the log book argument. Why not go back to our own best practice? Show me your code. No, not from your notebook. From SourceForge template or other repository and there we can examine trackers and their log entries to see if they follow the discipline or not. I learnt alot while working on the ADempiere project using SourceForge. Stuff such as FR, Bug trackers, auto numbering; atomic mapping of each tracker to each bug fix and commit; describing how to replicate the bug, and which Bug tracker number refers to which commit revision. Just an idea on how to be lazy fruitfully. On 4/3/11 2:19 AM, Boh Yap wrote: ah, good discussion, logbook vs exams, lets carry on... These are 2 different paradigms, From the employee POV: -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- #--- regds, Boh Heong, Yap -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] LPI Certified and other linux certified
On 4/3/11 4:26 PM, Boh Yap wrote: Raja, snipped Commenting on yr hiring objectives, it is not the technical skills that i look for. it is their pre-disposition to acquire and adapt technical skills.. its not wrong, but don't you/we think it reflects sadly on our training intituitions? We SHOULD BE hiring for technical skills! If I'm a owner of a data-centre, I want to be able to hire a cloud-computing expert but alas, our Edu system can't produce any of them. So I hire some person whom I think has a right aptitude and train them on the job! Don't you/anybody think this is the wrong picture!! Boh, it is ok in Malaysia because the man they hire to head MDec is not that technical either. Raja told me he is a salesman. And MOSTI big wigs are left to law abiding beaurocrats. I use to see their job specs with a smallprint in it: Follow any other orders that may be given by your superior from time to time in compliance with General Orders. There won't be room for creativity. In Brunei someone told me that govt is not a good innovator. But it is a good regulator. Thus they should come out with taxation or exemption to generate creativity. For example, if you installed your own instead of paying propretary vendors, you get to claim tax exemption to the amount of money you saved. Trust me. There will be a gold rush for OSDC.my membershp forms. .. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] LPI Certified and other linux certified
hi Red1, On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 4:41 PM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: Boh, it is ok in Malaysia because the man they hire to head MDec is not that technical either. Raja told me he is a salesman. And MOSTI big wigs are left to law abiding beaurocrats. I use to see their job specs with a smallprint in it: Follow any other orders that may be given by your superior from time to time in compliance with General Orders. There won't be room for creativity. hiring the ppl with the 'right skills' for the job is not even 'innovation', its just basic competency! If hiring someone with tech skills to fill some management position is considered innovation, I really feel (bad) for Malaysia, we got a long way to go... In Brunei someone told me that govt is not a good innovator. But it is a good regulator. Thus they should come out with taxation or exemption to generate creativity. For example, if you installed your own instead of paying propretary vendors, you get to claim tax exemption to the amount of money you saved. Trust me. There will be a gold rush for OSDC.my membershp forms. Ha, this will be good if it happens, but then there is a serious conflict of interest. The vendors won't be able to make tons of money from services, so the gov. cannot tax them as much, and they have to give out money to the smart customers! - not gonna happen .. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- #--- regds, Boh Heong, Yap -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] LPI Certified and other linux certified
I concede my first point and i tarik balik tuduhan. I owe you one daun pisang at Raju's. One the 2nd last point below, i think if we can show them the numbers, i.e. FOSS can generate 1% of GDP as i found out from some UN report (while squatting in OSCC with Raja some time ago), i think we can prove that innovation from FOSS far outweigh the short term benefit of proprietary tax. A smarter nation is a more productive and innovative one, with perhaps some Nobel prize geniuses in the offing. Now that is worth a billion to the country if we got just one miserable candidate. On 4/3/11 6:04 PM, Boh Yap wrote: hi Red1, On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 4:41 PM, red1r...@red1.org wrote: Boh, it is ok in Malaysia because the man they hire to head MDec is not that technical either. Raja told me he is a salesman. And MOSTI big wigs are left to law abiding beaurocrats. I use to see their job specs with a smallprint in it: Follow any other orders that may be given by your superior from time to time in compliance with General Orders. There won't be room for creativity. hiring the ppl with the 'right skills' for the job is not even 'innovation', its just basic competency! If hiring someone with tech skills to fill some management position is considered innovation, I really feel (bad) for Malaysia, we got a long way to go... In Brunei someone told me that govt is not a good innovator. But it is a good regulator. Thus they should come out with taxation or exemption to generate creativity. For example, if you installed your own instead of paying propretary vendors, you get to claim tax exemption to the amount of money you saved. Trust me. There will be a gold rush for OSDC.my membershp forms. Ha, this will be good if it happens, but then there is a serious conflict of interest. The vendors won't be able to make tons of money from services, so the gov. cannot tax them as much, and they have to give out money to the smart customers! - not gonna happen -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] Java Apprentice Wanted
menarik... macam mana nak apply ? -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] Java Apprentice Wanted
is this applicable for students from IT background looking for internship for 7 months period? -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] Java Apprentice Wanted
yang dok tgh ambik DIT pon blh ek.. nk apply jgk.. pkai netbeans ke? 2011/4/3 LyanaHamka lyana.ha...@gmail.com is this applicable for students from IT background looking for internship for 7 months period? -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- -- *Maui Sabily 2011* mauisab...@sabily.org *GPG KeyID*: DBDA3074 *GPG Fingerprint*: 3CCE D281 C894 4FB0 3D22 2141 75C6 E41F DBDA 3074 Soire Meira 2008 - 2011 EascobaNET, Inc 2006 - 2010 Ch0kL@Thack 2002 PaleoY2K 1998 - 2000 http://www.sabily.my http://www.sabily-my.tk Developer: Sabily NetBook Remix 10.10 Al-Qudshttp://mirror.spanasia.net/pub/simpleLinux/Pub/sabily.my/SabilyNR.iso Sabily Zakat Calc 0.2-1 Beta (Debian) https://launchpad.net/zakat-calc Asmawi Office 0.1 Alpha (Webase Presentiton) http://www.asmawioffice.tk/ Soire TV Radio http://www.soire.webs.com/ (Windows Only - continue version on Linux) BrutuSamaDia http://www.soire.webs.com/ (Remote Desktop Penetration Testing) Mauiware.AYU.0.6 http://www.soire.webs.com/ (Virus Cleanner Get Back Hidden Files) Malicious of Dark Knight - Hack To Learn, Don't Learn To Hack -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
[osdcmy] KohanaPHP Apprentice Wanted
Anybody interested to spend their practical internship learning KohanaPHP framework ? Pls send your resume and portfolio to me rajaiskandars at gmail dot com Location : Bandar Tasik Selatan Work : migrating existing PHP application to the KohanaPHP framework along with jQuery javascript framework and possibly some Zend libraries Working hours : 9am - 6pm, Mon - Fri. Training : Will be provided every Thursday Other tasks : Web Graphic Designer for KOSTEM ! Pre-qualifications : Academic CGPA : 3.0 and above Projects : Must have done at least 1 web project Blog / Forum : Active Must be in pair from same institution -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] Pemegang Moodle dan Linux certified diperlukan
Sijil untuk Moodle memang ada ek? Pernah guna Moodle, tapi x pernah mengajar+sharing2 pulak :) Kalau ada komuniti moodle malaysia pun cool ;) 2011/3/28 Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com Rujuk Fazli Azran untuk senarai terkini. Kami pun sedang kumpulkan senarai pengajar untuk LPI dan OEC. 2011/3/28 Hasanuddin Abu Bakar bizkut...@gmail.com: Salam, Saya memerlukan seorang pemegang sijil Moodle atau perpengalaman menjalankan/membangunkan Moodle dan 2 orang pemegang Linux certificate (RHCE/LPI etc..) untuk satu projek. Individu ini nanti akan menjadi mentor/penasihat untuk satu team yang akan ditubuhkan untuk menjalankan projek ini nanti. Saya menyeru sesiapa yang berminat untuk menghantar CV anda kepada ha...@openkod.com. Sekian, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] LPI Certified and other linux certified
hi Red1, Agree, the 'Transformasi' is all about knowledge-based economy, and higher income... this can only come from innovation. How do you get 'innovators', well you can hope/bet on some geniuses will pop up or more likely, improve the nurture the skills, create a bigger pool of people with those skills (a qualitative and quantitative approach) and the chances of getting some innovators is much better. But just 'training', courses and exams are not good enough! That's what's been going on, and you have all those 10 A's students that aren't productive in a real job! The earlier discussion touched upon a good point - APPRENTICESHIP. What is needed is a FLOSS ECOSYSTEM, provide an environment for hands-on practical learning, provide nurturing and sharing of passion with/by Mentors (or experianced techies), kick-start some projects to work on, add some funding and of course ppl with passion. I believe that all these 'pieces' are lying round out there... 'we'(all FLOSS community) have to sit down and stitch it together, put in some plans, structures and commitment and make it work. And I'm sure we have enough ideas out there, and we gotta stop re-inventing wheels and work together. Building the ECOSYSTEM is important, because without that, it'll just be another one-off project, it cannot be sustainable. Then hopefully, out of that ecosystem, maybe we can produce another FB or equivalent. Not Nobel prize I don't think, for that we need pretty good Academic Insttuitions, and besides our academics has gotta up their publication of academic papers first! Hey Red1, I see you got your apprenticeship program started, that is good As for the rest, if any of you would like to get together for a teh-tarik and discuss how we can get the ecosystem going, I'm game. (I remember Haris(?) mentioned something like this?)... On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 6:32 PM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: I concede my first point and i tarik balik tuduhan. I owe you one daun pisang at Raju's. One the 2nd last point below, i think if we can show them the numbers, i.e. FOSS can generate 1% of GDP as i found out from some UN report (while squatting in OSCC with Raja some time ago), i think we can prove that innovation from FOSS far outweigh the short term benefit of proprietary tax. A smarter nation is a more productive and innovative one, with perhaps some Nobel prize geniuses in the offing. Now that is worth a billion to the country if we got just one miserable candidate. On 4/3/11 6:04 PM, Boh Yap wrote: hi Red1, On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 4:41 PM, red1r...@red1.org wrote: Boh, it is ok in Malaysia because the man they hire to head MDec is not that technical either. Raja told me he is a salesman. And MOSTI big wigs are left to law abiding beaurocrats. I use to see their job specs with a smallprint in it: Follow any other orders that may be given by your superior from time to time in compliance with General Orders. There won't be room for creativity. hiring the ppl with the 'right skills' for the job is not even 'innovation', its just basic competency! If hiring someone with tech skills to fill some management position is considered innovation, I really feel (bad) for Malaysia, we got a long way to go... In Brunei someone told me that govt is not a good innovator. But it is a good regulator. Thus they should come out with taxation or exemption to generate creativity. For example, if you installed your own instead of paying propretary vendors, you get to claim tax exemption to the amount of money you saved. Trust me. There will be a gold rush for OSDC.my membershp forms. Ha, this will be good if it happens, but then there is a serious conflict of interest. The vendors won't be able to make tons of money from services, so the gov. cannot tax them as much, and they have to give out money to the smart customers! - not gonna happen -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- #--- regds, Boh Heong, Yap -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] LPI Certified and other linux certified
Since u are so serious, here are some pointers. You got to do your own research into almost anything and everything related to computing in FOSS way. Sifu can be irritated if you bother him with newbie questions all the time. If Sifu keeps quiet, it means, "Pergi Google lah bro". Again, if the sifu maki hamun is not a good sifu. I have maki hamun enough. Its time to relax. Tadi baru balik dari meronda tengah-tengah bandaraya Bangkok sampai 5 pagi. Macam-macam yang tidak dapat dicerita di sini tetapi memberangsangkan minda. Java skills selepas ini pasti melonjak naik ke paras global. On 4/4/11 5:01 AM, riZer Enterprise wrote: As a newcomer aka newbie; i will not get anywhere without all your tunjuk ajar, preaches and makian (from mistake) from you all masters, sifus and gurus. please teach me a thing or two. maaf i cannot give you money for the lessons you tought. i just wanna sama-sama cari makan together. dan mengurangkan beban yang korang kena tanggung. Berat sama dipikul ringan sama dijinjing "Ke Arah Merealisasikan Satu Sumber" Azhar 2011/4/4 Boh Yap bhy...@gmail.com hi Red1, -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] LPI Certified and other linux certified
(lepas tu project director sakit jantung sebab the pmp certified project manager tak buat project management, instead sibuk buat functional giler) This PM terpaksa. SE dan SA tak faham apa kah cara yang baik hendak bangunkan sistem yang projek kena buat. :) -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] LPI Certified and other linux certified
Agreed. P/S: I heard some people said they had 'cracked' the LPI exam program to make them pass it. Rumor only. No proof was shown to me though. But there are also those who had kaw tim with certain examination lab to buka buku during exam. Even googled it. On 04/04/2011 09:26 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel wrote: We JV with universities to do OSS certification as add on to their universities program. Industry will get what they want, certified graduates and experience with OSS. and GOV get their numbers. :) -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
[osdcmy] REMINDER: openSUSE GNOME Debian Release Party
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Re: [osdcmy] REMINDER: openSUSE GNOME Debian Release Party
They will sent confirmation email. before the events. Dont worry :) On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 10:01 AM, Umarzuki Bin Mochlis Moktar u...@umarzuki.org wrote: Mr. Fazli, How do I check whether my name is already registered because I thought I had already registered but I maybe just imagining it. On 04/04/2011 09:55 AM, Mohd Fazli Azran wrote: Hi all, This is reminder for all openSUSE, GNOME and Debian Malaysia community. For who not register yet please register at *here http://bit.ly/hy7loJ%20%20 *. See you all Thanks Regards, Mohd Fazli Azran Secretariat OSDCMY -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] LPI Certified and other linux certified
wow.. i like it.. look like so easy to 'crack' this LPI.. so we can pass it easily.. YES! 2011/4/4 Umarzuki Bin Mochlis Moktar u...@umarzuki.org Agreed. P/S: I heard some people said they had 'cracked' the LPI exam program to make them pass it. Rumor only. No proof was shown to me though. But there are also those who had kaw tim with certain examination lab to buka buku during exam. Even googled it. On 04/04/2011 09:26 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel wrote: We JV with universities to do OSS certification as add on to their universities program. Industry will get what they want, certified graduates and experience with OSS. and GOV get their numbers. :) -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- -- *Maui Sabily 2011* mauisab...@sabily.org *GPG KeyID*: DBDA3074 *GPG Fingerprint*: 3CCE D281 C894 4FB0 3D22 2141 75C6 E41F DBDA 3074 Soire Meira 2008 - 2011 EascobaNET, Inc 2006 - 2010 Ch0kL@Thack 2002 PaleoY2K 1998 - 2000 http://www.sabily.my http://www.sabily-my.tk Developer: Sabily NetBook Remix 10.10 Al-Qudshttp://mirror.spanasia.net/pub/simpleLinux/Pub/sabily.my/SabilyNR.iso Sabily Zakat Calc 0.2-1 Beta (Debian) https://launchpad.net/zakat-calc Asmawi Office 0.1 Alpha (Webase Presentiton) http://www.asmawioffice.tk/ Soire TV Radio http://www.soire.webs.com/ (Windows Only - continue version on Linux) BrutuSamaDia http://www.soire.webs.com/ (Remote Desktop Penetration Testing) Mauiware.AYU.0.6 http://www.soire.webs.com/ (Virus Cleanner Get Back Hidden Files) Malicious of Dark Knight - Hack To Learn, Don't Learn To Hack -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
