Re: [osg-users] Tutorials
> Nick Prudent wrote: > There *is* an OSG discussion forum: > http://www.3drealtimesimulation.com/3dsceneBB/index.php > It's just not very official (and not used much, from what I can see...). Great! Ill bet it would be used much more if it were listed prominently on the wiki like just below the mailing list link or on the getting started page for example. I searched the wiki and found a link to an official FAQ on that site but no links from the wiki to the forum at all. > Jean-Sébastien wrote: > you'll see the arguments for and against. A compromise > may be reached, but the mailing list is here to stay. > Most OSS projects have at least two mailing lists, some much more. > It's a very effective means of discussing development subjects. Thanks for the quick response. Seems funny to say anything is here to stay related to any constantly evolving technology project, or anything related to the Internet. I was just offering my observations coming at this project fresh. My opinion was simply that the mailing list method seems outdated. I wasnt suggesting it is not effective, just comparing it to the features/benefits of newer community technologies Ive used on other projects. ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] Tutorials
There *is* an OSG discussion forum:http://www.3drealtimesimulation.com/3dsceneBB/index.phpIt's just not very official (and not used much, from what I can see...). Email works great for me. This together with the Wiki makes for a great community. Friction? What friction? This mailing list is more civil than others I have frequented, that's for sure ;)- Nick -> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org> Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 22:40:00 -0400> Subject: Re: [osg-users] Tutorials> > >> It seems to me to not have received the original Robert message, It is> >> not the first ime I got a reply to a message I' ve never received.> >> has it occured to anyone else?> > > Yes, me. No idea why, nor how to fix it, but I've seen it happen about > > 3 times in the last week...> > Just an idea (sorry if it was discussed previously - I'm new here)... how> about an actual discussion forum (like vBulletin) to compliment the wiki. No> offense intended but I haven't seen a mailing list used for all discussions> on a technical project since the late 90's (I think the last one I used as a> developer that was served by Mailman was the introduction of the PNG> format). As an outsider just learning OSG I have to admit a text only> mailing list made OSG harder to approach then other similar technologies> available today. Forums for other similar technology projects I've> participated in seem to offer less friction (and more of a community feel -> improving contributions) on technical discussions. Just my two cents.> > > > ___> osg-users mailing list> osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org> http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org _ Discover the new Windows Vista http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=windows+vista&mkt=en-US&form=QBRE___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] Tutorials
Hello, > Just an idea (sorry if it was discussed previously - I'm new here)... how > about an actual discussion forum (like vBulletin) to compliment the wiki. Indeed, it has been discussed previously. Search the archives. Last I heard of it, some people suggested ways of bridging a forum and the mailing list but nothing practical came of it... As I said, look at the archives on the subject, you'll see the arguments for and against. A compromise may be reached, but the mailing list is here to stay. > No offense intended but I haven't seen a mailing list used for all > discussions > on a technical project since the late 90's Most OSS projects have at least two mailing lists, some much more. It's a very effective means of discussing development subjects. J-S -- __ Jean-Sebastien Guay [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://whitestar02.webhop.org/ This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] Tutorials
>> It seems to me to not have received the original Robert message, It is >> not the first ime I got a reply to a message I' ve never received. >> has it occured to anyone else? > Yes, me. No idea why, nor how to fix it, but I've seen it happen about > 3 times in the last week... Just an idea (sorry if it was discussed previously - I'm new here)... how about an actual discussion forum (like vBulletin) to compliment the wiki. No offense intended but I haven't seen a mailing list used for all discussions on a technical project since the late 90's (I think the last one I used as a developer that was served by Mailman was the introduction of the PNG format). As an outsider just learning OSG I have to admit a text only mailing list made OSG harder to approach then other similar technologies available today. Forums for other similar technology projects I've participated in seem to offer less friction (and more of a community feel - improving contributions) on technical discussions. Just my two cents. ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] CMake instructions for OSG 2.0 don't work on Windows
Hello Robert, > Must admit I haven't checked the old links. Indeed its surprising > that others others hadn't followed the wrong trail. Changing domains > and wiki's has thrown quite a few items in the mix, we have to just > try and fix things we miss when they are found. I wonder. We've now had at least two people who went to the old wiki after the new one is online (Nick Prudent and Ben Discoe), and there must be others too. Was there a reason to keep the old wiki online instead of replacing it with a redirect to the new one? I imagine it's just adding to the confusion new users experience. And now is not the right time to be *adding* to their confusion! :-) (crude reference to the documentation issue... :-) ) J-S -- __ Jean-Sebastien Guay [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://whitestar02.webhop.org/ This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] Tutorials
> I vote for 2) > I think we should provide examples on how to build an external > application that is OSG-based, the tutorials are probably good candidates. I agree. The tutorials should be kept separate. > P.S. > It seems to me to not have received the original Robert message, It is > not the first ime I got a reply to a message I' ve never received. > has it occured to anyone else? Yes, me. No idea why, nor how to fix it, but I've seen it happen about 3 times in the last week... J-S -- __ Jean-Sebastien Guay [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://whitestar02.webhop.org/ This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
[osg-users] Switch Group Detection
Newbie question: How do you find out if a osg:Group node is a Switch? Node::asGroup() can be used to determine if thi is a osg::Group, but what about osg::Switch ? Thanks, - Nick - _ Put Your Face In Your Space with Windows Live Spaces http://spaces.live.com/?mkt=en-ca ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] Max 9 Crashing
We are about to start working on a Max 9 version of osgExp. Sorry for the delays. Cheers, Hartmut André Rocha Tomasi wrote: > Anyone using 3D Max 9 has been suffering with crashes when using the > openscenegraph commands? Like trying to create a sequence helper, > crashes Max 3 out of 4 tries. Same for creating billboards and other items. > > [ ]´s > > André Tomasi > > > > > ___ > osg-users mailing list > osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org > http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] Missing osgViewer folder?
On 8/25/07, Mike Weiblen wrote: > thats an error in packaging on my part… fixed in the next release Thanks Mike for the quick response. I just wanted to make sure I wasn’t missing something big while getting my feet wet with osg. You may want to check for some other missing include folders as well before the next release. Thank you. ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] Missing osgViewer folder?
Hi, thats an error in packaging on my part. I'll will be fixed in the next release cheers -- mew On 8/25/07, Ricko 3D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Please excuse the osg newbie question. Why doesn't the 2.0 Win32 binaries > package contain the "include/osgViewer" folder and associated headers? (same > in the exe or zip version) > > > > After installing the binaries package I was unable to compile the examples > using the osgViewer because the header was not in the include folder with > the rest. It didn't take long to notice this folder, which is present in > full source, is missing from the rest of the headers in the binaries > package. > > > > Is there a reason for this or did I just miss it somehow? > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > ___ > osg-users mailing list > osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org > http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org > > -- Mike Weiblen -- Austin Texas USA -- http://mew.cx/ ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] Thread safety improvements and CullThreadPerCameraDrawThreadPerContext now working
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robert Osfield wrote: > Yes I played with interacting with the scene without problems before I > did the scripted tests. The scripted test was using an animation > path, so it was moving, albeit not interactivity - during the run I > deliberately moved the mouse lots and pressed keys to force events > into the viewer to try and provoke a hang. > > Robert. Now this is indeed weird :( I am starting to feel that the Danish air here has to be the reason why I do get the hangs and you cannot reproduce them :-p I will try to investigate more on my side. Jan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mandriva - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG0bmnn11XseNj94gRArSoAJ9Ksv6VIHPPFkdrEQNU7BBQ/2zhBgCfVE3M 5FqgEgN1xWs1u3JYhFb7k5Y= =TrKl -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] CMake instructions for OSG 2.0 don't work on Windows
Ben, "Where is the source code" should point to the top-level directory that contains the top-level CMakeLists.txt file. For step two, you need to browse to the directory that contains the CMakeLists.txt file instead of the CMakeLists.txt file itself (just as the CMake error indicates). It sounds like a very minor glitch in the documentation. Anyone who has used CMake on Windows is familiar with this process; therefore, they probably did not scrutinize the documentation. Hope this helps! Justin On Saturday 25 August 2007 23:13:27 Ben Discoe wrote: > Figuring that 2.0 has been out long enough now that it must be time to > upgrade from 1.2, i tried to build OSG 2.0 this evening. > > The file VisualStudio/MUST_READ_ME.txt says to follow the instructions at > http://www.openscenegraph.org/osgwiki/pmwiki.php/PlatformSpecifics/VisualSt >udio > > Those instructions say: > > 1. Install CMake. (I installed the current version, 2.4.) > > 2. Start the CMake GUI, and open the CMakeLists.txt from the root > OpenSceneGraph directory in the "Where is the source code" field. > > However, the 'Browse' button in the CMake GUI selects a directory, not a > file. So, selecting CMakeLists.txt is not possible. If one does directly > paste the full path to CMakeLists.txt into the 'Where is the source' field, > then CMake reports this error on Configure: > > Error: CMake Error: The source directory > "C:/OpenSceneGraph-2.0/CMakeList.txt" is a file, not a directory. > > I can only guess that either the CMake GUI has changed since OSG 2.0 was > released (?) or the OSG build instructions are just wrong. > > Has anyone else gotten 2.0 to build? I realize that it is a relatively > fresh release. > > Thanks, > Ben ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] CMake instructions for OSG 2.0 don't work on Windows
Hi Ben, Must admit I haven't checked the old links. Indeed its surprising that others others hadn't followed the wrong trail. Changing domains and wiki's has thrown quite a few items in the mix, we have to just try and fix things we miss when they are found. BTW, have you got things compiling with instruction on the new wiki? We also have 2.2 not far away, this fixes a number of problems seen in 2.0, so you might want to try out the 2.1.x dev series, I'll be building 2.1.8 tomorrow. Robert. On 8/26/07, Ben Discoe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - > > From: Robert Osfield > > To: osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org > > > > Hi Ben, > > > > I don't know if it'll help but your link is to the old wiki, you could > > try: > > http://www.openscenegraph.org/projects/osg/wiki/Support/PlatformSpecifics/ > > VisualStudio > > Aha. I guess what happened is this: > > 1. OSG-2.0 is released, with MUST_READ_ME.txt directing users to the Wiki for > instructions. The instructions in the Wiki are wrong (but perhaps people > don't read them?) > > 2. Some time later, a new Wiki is made. But (unfortunately..) the old Wiki > remains online as well, with largely duplicate and (in this example) wrong > information. > > 3. Someone corrects the information in the new wiki. > > 4. The OSG-2.0 zip is not patched, so it stills points to the old wiki, so > anyone trying to build 2.0 today is still directed to the wrong information. > > It seems fairly incredible that i am the first to report this, unless every > other person to build 2.0 on Windows has ignored the README and just fiddled > with it until they made it work. > > I'd highly recommend fixing it, by pointing the 2.0 zipped README to point to > the correct Wiki (or making the old Wiki URL redirect to the right Wiki) as > well as taking the old Wiki offline if it is just causing trouble like this. > > -Ben > > > ___ > osg-users mailing list > osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org > http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org > ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
