Re: [otrs] open ticket forwarding mail

2013-01-10 Thread Francesco Pasqualini
OTRS is very powerful, I'm quite shure that it can do what I'm asking.

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If it's needed I can develop a filter/ add-on / plugin... based on mailing
list suggestions / hints


thanks


On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 4:21 PM, David Boyes  wrote:

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> ...still interested in a OTRS way to rewrite the From: in forwarded email*
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> OTRS can’t perform miracles. When you forward a message, you’re creating a
> completely new message and new headers, and that is completely under the
> control of your mail client.  If your mail client can’t resend it
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Re: [otrs] open ticket forwarding mail

2013-01-10 Thread David Boyes
So do I. But to do that, you have to have some way of conveying the original 
address in a way that OTRS can understand it, and that's not possible in your 
configuration without supplying that information in another form than the 
RFC822 email headers.

The postmaster filter approach outlined in another email is probably your only 
hope if you don't run your own mail server, but as you noted, that allows 
pretty much anyone on the planet to do it unless you build in some additional 
authentication in the postmaster script, which is not a trivial task.  There 
are a lot of complex edge cases.

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Subject: Re: [otrs] open ticket forwarding mail

Nowadays many people use gmail and gmail does not provides redeliver.

I think  the ability to open a ticket via mail forwarding is an interesting 
feature for OTRS.
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Re: [otrs] open ticket forwarding mail

2013-01-10 Thread Francesco Pasqualini
Nowadays many people use gmail and gmail does not provides redeliver.

I think  the ability to open a ticket via mail forwarding is an interesting
feature for OTRS.

Francesco

On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 4:03 PM, David Boyes  wrote:

>  That’s more a question of what email client you use. Some clients (elm,
> pine, etc) provide a function that redelivers messages to another
> destination with the original headers intact (as if it were originally sent
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Re: [otrs] open ticket forwarding mail

2013-01-10 Thread David Boyes

...still interested in a OTRS way to rewrite the From: in forwarded email

OTRS can't perform miracles. When you forward a message, you're creating a 
completely new message and new headers, and that is completely under the 
control of your mail client.  If your mail client can't resend it 
transparently, your only options are to create something like a mail alias on 
your OTRS server that runs a procmail filter to strip out the headers generated 
by forwarding the message and resubmit the original message to OTRS as if it 
had come from the customer directly, or add some kind of special header that 
the OTRS postmaster filter can trap.  You then forward the message to the mail 
alias when you want this to happen, or add the magic header when you forward 
the message.

The alias idea won't work unless you have control of the incoming mail server 
(and given that you say you're using gmail's mail servers, you probably don't), 
and the gmail interface isn't conducive to adding specialized headers. Note 
that you also will need to configure your mail client to not modify the 
forwarded message in any way (eg, no indents, adding >> notations, etc.) if you 
want the stripping to work reliably.


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Re: [otrs] open ticket forwarding mail

2013-01-10 Thread David Boyes
That's more a question of what email client you use. Some clients (elm, pine, 
etc) provide a function that redelivers messages to another destination with 
the original headers intact (as if it were originally sent to that destination).

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Re: [otrs] open ticket forwarding mail

2013-01-10 Thread Francesco Pasqualini
Good idea!
... can you please share your config / filter ?

I hope that when filtering, OTRS can remove the statement
 "##customer:em...@add.ress"
If it remain, a maliciuos reader arguing the logic  could use it to open
fake tickets

thanks

Francesco

On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 3:00 PM, Gerald Young  wrote:

> one thing I did was to forward with a ##customer:em...@add.ress and
> PostMasterFilter on that.
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:45 AM, Francesco Pasqualini wrote:
>
>> You are perfectly right, but our company uses gmail anche it lack this
>> feature (for security reason I think).
>>
>> Yes, I could access gmail via imap with an email reader that supports
>> bouce, but not very happy of this solution.
>>
>> At this time with OTRS 3.1.11 we can poll many IMAP accounts, so we
>> configured OTRS to poll a special IMAP folder named "otrs" in every mailbox.
>> In gmail a label is an IMAP folder. So when I receive a mail that I need
>> to bounce to OTRS, simply I label it OTRS, and it works.
>>
>> But if the mail is in the middle of a conversation, gmail label "OTRS"
>> all the messages in the conversation and not only the selected one. This is
>> a big problem: every message in the conversation will become a ticket. So
>> this solution (using an OTRS label) is not perfect.
>>
>> ...still interested in a OTRS way to rewrite the From: in forwarded email
>>
>>
>> thanks
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:18 PM, Ralf Hildebrandt <
>> ralf.hildebra...@charite.de> wrote:
>>
>>> I simply use the "bounce" option in my email program. That way, the
>>> headers stay the same and OTRS acts as if the user sent the mail
>>> directly to OTRS!
>>>
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>>> Ralf Hildebrandt   Charite Universitätsmedizin Berlin
>>> ralf.hildebra...@charite.deCampus Benjamin Franklin
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Re: [otrs] open ticket forwarding mail

2013-01-10 Thread Gerald Young
one thing I did was to forward with a ##customer:em...@add.ress and
PostMasterFilter on that.


On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:45 AM, Francesco Pasqualini wrote:

> You are perfectly right, but our company uses gmail anche it lack this
> feature (for security reason I think).
>
> Yes, I could access gmail via imap with an email reader that supports
> bouce, but not very happy of this solution.
>
> At this time with OTRS 3.1.11 we can poll many IMAP accounts, so we
> configured OTRS to poll a special IMAP folder named "otrs" in every mailbox.
> In gmail a label is an IMAP folder. So when I receive a mail that I need
> to bounce to OTRS, simply I label it OTRS, and it works.
>
> But if the mail is in the middle of a conversation, gmail label "OTRS" all
> the messages in the conversation and not only the selected one. This is a
> big problem: every message in the conversation will become a ticket. So
> this solution (using an OTRS label) is not perfect.
>
> ...still interested in a OTRS way to rewrite the From: in forwarded email
>
>
> thanks
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:18 PM, Ralf Hildebrandt <
> ralf.hildebra...@charite.de> wrote:
>
>> I simply use the "bounce" option in my email program. That way, the
>> headers stay the same and OTRS acts as if the user sent the mail
>> directly to OTRS!
>>
>> --
>> Ralf Hildebrandt   Charite Universitätsmedizin Berlin
>> ralf.hildebra...@charite.deCampus Benjamin Franklin
>> http://www.charite.de  Hindenburgdamm 30, 12203 Berlin
>> Geschäftsbereich IT, Abt. Netzwerk fon: +49-30-450.570.155
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Re: [otrs] open ticket forwarding mail

2013-01-10 Thread Francesco Pasqualini
You are perfectly right, but our company uses gmail anche it lack this
feature (for security reason I think).

Yes, I could access gmail via imap with an email reader that supports
bouce, but not very happy of this solution.

At this time with OTRS 3.1.11 we can poll many IMAP accounts, so we
configured OTRS to poll a special IMAP folder named "otrs" in every mailbox.
In gmail a label is an IMAP folder. So when I receive a mail that I need to
bounce to OTRS, simply I label it OTRS, and it works.

But if the mail is in the middle of a conversation, gmail label "OTRS" all
the messages in the conversation and not only the selected one. This is a
big problem: every message in the conversation will become a ticket. So
this solution (using an OTRS label) is not perfect.

...still interested in a OTRS way to rewrite the From: in forwarded email


thanks





On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:18 PM, Ralf Hildebrandt <
ralf.hildebra...@charite.de> wrote:

> I simply use the "bounce" option in my email program. That way, the
> headers stay the same and OTRS acts as if the user sent the mail
> directly to OTRS!
>
> --
> Ralf Hildebrandt   Charite Universitätsmedizin Berlin
> ralf.hildebra...@charite.deCampus Benjamin Franklin
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Re: [otrs] open ticket forwarding mail

2013-01-10 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Francesco Pasqualini :
> Hi,
> 
> is there some feature/configutation to open a ticket forwarding an email.
> 
> The use case is:
> 
> We have an email address connected to OTR, helpd...@mycompany.com, but
> sometime  I receive requests in my own mailbox and I want to forward to
> OTRS.
> 
> Is there a way to forward this email to OTRS and automatically open a
> ticket for the original sender ?

I simply use the "bounce" option in my email program. That way, the
headers stay the same and OTRS acts as if the user sent the mail
directly to OTRS!

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ralf.hildebra...@charite.deCampus Benjamin Franklin
http://www.charite.de  Hindenburgdamm 30, 12203 Berlin
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