Re: [OT] Earthquake

[Chris Walsh]

Sadly Betty’s Burgers in South Yarra is no more.

Back down to a 4.0 now.

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Subject: RE: [OT] Earthquake
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From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com  On Behalf 
Of Chris Walsh
Sent: Wednesday, 22 September 2021 9:58 AM
To: ozDotNet 
Subject: Re: [OT] Earthquake

She was a big one!  Magnitude 6.

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> 
mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com>> on behalf 
of Greg Keogh mailto:gfke...@gmail.com>>
Date: Wednesday, 22 September 2021 at 9:28 am
To: ozDotNet mailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>>
Subject: [OT] Earthquake
It's not Friday, but the strongest and longest earthquake I've ever felt just 
went all around Melbourne (and regional Victoria). Headline news! -- Greg

Re: [OT] Earthquake

[Chris Walsh]

She was a big one!  Magnitude 6.

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com  on behalf 
of Greg Keogh 
Date: Wednesday, 22 September 2021 at 9:28 am
To: ozDotNet 
Subject: [OT] Earthquake
It's not Friday, but the strongest and longest earthquake I've ever felt just 
went all around Melbourne (and regional Victoria). Headline news! -- Greg

RE: Surface Hub

[Chris Walsh]

It is really only an SMB/Enterprise Only device, heavily tied to SfB/Teams for 
proper collab.

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com <ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> On Behalf 
Of David Connors
Sent: Tuesday, 13 March 2018 9:39 PM
To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
Subject: Re: Surface Hub

I'd like 1 for us and 1 for a customer. The fact these things are still in the 
enterprise sales model is a bit of a fail.



On Tue, 13 Mar 2018 at 20:35 Chris Walsh 
<ch...@walshie.me<mailto:ch...@walshie.me>> wrote:
Bought them (25x55” & 10x84”) via Telstra, depends on how many you want to buy 
really.  If you buy 10 you get a good price, they (Microsoft) do end of quarter 
deals etc.


From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> 
<ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com>> On Behalf 
Of David Connors
Sent: Monday, 12 March 2018 8:06 PM
To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>>
Subject: Re: Surface Hub

Where did you buy it and what did you pay?
On Mon., 12 Mar. 2018, 6:58 pm Chris Walsh, 
<ch...@walshie.me<mailto:ch...@walshie.me>> wrote:
Have a few yes.  What would you like to know?

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> 
<ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com>> On Behalf 
Of David Connors
Sent: Wednesday, 7 March 2018 3:01 PM
To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>>
Subject: Surface Hub

Has anyone on this list actually bought a 55 inch surface hub?

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RE: Surface Hub

[Chris Walsh]

Bought them (25x55” & 10x84”) via Telstra, depends on how many you want to buy 
really.  If you buy 10 you get a good price, they (Microsoft) do end of quarter 
deals etc.


From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com <ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> On Behalf 
Of David Connors
Sent: Monday, 12 March 2018 8:06 PM
To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
Subject: Re: Surface Hub

Where did you buy it and what did you pay?
On Mon., 12 Mar. 2018, 6:58 pm Chris Walsh, 
<ch...@walshie.me<mailto:ch...@walshie.me>> wrote:
Have a few yes.  What would you like to know?

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> 
<ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com>> On Behalf 
Of David Connors
Sent: Wednesday, 7 March 2018 3:01 PM
To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>>
Subject: Surface Hub

Has anyone on this list actually bought a 55 inch surface hub?

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RE: Surface Hub

[Chris Walsh]

Have a few yes.  What would you like to know?

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com  On Behalf 
Of David Connors
Sent: Wednesday, 7 March 2018 3:01 PM
To: ozDotNet 
Subject: Surface Hub

Has anyone on this list actually bought a 55 inch surface hub?

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RE: Just seen the prices of Window 8 RT Surface devices....

[Chris Walsh]

Businesses usually get better plans from Telstra, one plan say for voice, $60 
unlimited voice with only 3GB of data, whereas the 3G dongle plans get 12GB of 
data for $60 per month.

While I agree tethering is getting easier and easier, you are draining the 
battery on two devices now.

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of mike smith
Sent: Thursday, 18 October 2012 10:00 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: Just seen the prices of Window 8 RT Surface devices

Businesses are that free with money that they will issue 2x 3g accounts per 
employee that currently has one?  Not in my experience.  Tethering's just so 
damned easy now, what's the business case against using it?
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 9:53 AM, Tony Wright 
tonyw...@gmail.commailto:tonyw...@gmail.com wrote:
I see it as an indicator of the market they’re targeting – just consumer. Maybe 
as an individual you won’t want a separate mobile bill, but this has all but 
destroyed the use of Win Tab for one business project that we’re looking at 
that might have purchased 10 Win Tabs on 3G for use out at sites.

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com 
[mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of mike smith
Sent: Thursday, 18 October 2012 9:39 AM

To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: Just seen the prices of Window 8 RT Surface devices

On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 9:21 AM, Tony Wright 
tonyw...@gmail.commailto:tonyw...@gmail.com wrote:
Also, which would you prefer – a device that you can plug a SIM into, or one 
that you can’t? Microsoft’s tablet only has WIFI, which is a major market 
killer for business applications.

So if you had to splurge on a tab, which would you go for – a tab that supports 
3G, or one that doesn’t? Very disappointing.

I've got a Samsung that does 3g, but use it in Wifi mode tethered to a phone, 
because I didn't want the cost of another 3g account.


Right now they appear to be going for the stupid rich Microsoft fanboys who 
will be silly enough to purchase this device and then pay again when the true 
mobile versions come out. This is the Zune all over again. They will have an 
initial take up from fanboys, and then watch sales drop dramatically afterwards.

Tell me I’m wrong?

You're right, but that's the wrong reason, IMO.


From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com 
[mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Michael Ridland
Sent: Wednesday, 17 October 2012 4:32 PM

To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: Just seen the prices of Window 8 RT Surface devices

Yes, i was keen to buy one but price was an issue when it came to crunch.

I bet many feel the same.


On Wednesday, October 17, 2012, Preet Sangha wrote:
Looks like I wont' be splashing out for a while

http://surface.microsoftstore.com/store/msstore/Content/pbpage.Surface?ESICaching=offWT.mc_id=FY13WinHH


Don't know how competitive these prices are but they seem a little high but 
then maybe they are fighting Apple and not Android.

US 500 without cover/keyboard
US 600 with  cover/keyboard



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RE: [OT] Really bad Telstra phone reception

[Chris Walsh]

Samsung Omnia 7 bought from Telstra?  Or sourced outside of Telstra?  

-Original Message-
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Tony Wright
Sent: Monday, 17 September 2012 1:36 PM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: [OT] Really bad Telstra phone reception

Well it's a Samsung Omnia 7 and I thought it was on NextG. I just re-registered 
it on the network and it's still showing Edge and sometime just bars (so 
generic 3G I guess).
Of course, I'm in Fitzroy North, so only about 4 kms from the GPO so I would 
have thought the signal, and choices, would be better.
I reckon they've decommissioned it for me, or whatever band it's using now is 
hopeless.
T.

-Original Message-
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of Bill McCarthy
Sent: Monday, 17 September 2012 1:16 PM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: [OT] Really bad Telstra phone reception

See if this applies:

http://www.telstra.com.au/business-enterprise/help-support/announcements/



|-Original Message-
|From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet- 
|boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Tony Wright
|Sent: Monday, 17 September 2012 12:55 PM
|To: 'ozDotNet'
|Subject: [OT] Really bad Telstra phone reception
|
|Hi all,
|
|
|
|I am now experiencing really bad Telstra phone signal. It used to be
fantastic, but
|is now appalling. I think they've deliberately downgraded the mobile 
|phone network to make their 4G look better, but those of us that don't 
|feel the
need to
|upgrade our phones just yet are expected to suck it up. Is there 
|anything
we can
|do about it?
|
|
|
|Regards,
|
|Tony

RE: [OT] Really bad Telstra phone reception

[Chris Walsh]

If you sourced it outside Telstra, you are on the 900/2100mhz edition, so when 
Telstra ended their 3G deal with Three, you lost access to the 3G 2100 mhz 
network, you never were on Next G.

So now you are stuck on their SLOW 2G / Edge network, either buy a new phone 
now, or wait for the new Lumia 820/920 phones.

-Original Message-
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Tony Wright
Sent: Monday, 17 September 2012 2:46 PM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: [OT] Really bad Telstra phone reception

Ah yes, sourced outside Telstra, before we moved to Telstra. Is there a way I 
can fix it then?

-Original Message-
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of Chris Walsh
Sent: Monday, 17 September 2012 2:21 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: [OT] Really bad Telstra phone reception

Samsung Omnia 7 bought from Telstra?  Or sourced outside of Telstra?  

-Original Message-
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of Tony Wright
Sent: Monday, 17 September 2012 1:36 PM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: [OT] Really bad Telstra phone reception

Well it's a Samsung Omnia 7 and I thought it was on NextG. I just re-registered 
it on the network and it's still showing Edge and sometime just bars (so 
generic 3G I guess).
Of course, I'm in Fitzroy North, so only about 4 kms from the GPO so I would 
have thought the signal, and choices, would be better.
I reckon they've decommissioned it for me, or whatever band it's using now is 
hopeless.
T.

-Original Message-
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of Bill McCarthy
Sent: Monday, 17 September 2012 1:16 PM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: [OT] Really bad Telstra phone reception

See if this applies:

http://www.telstra.com.au/business-enterprise/help-support/announcements/



|-Original Message-
|From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet- 
|boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Tony Wright
|Sent: Monday, 17 September 2012 12:55 PM
|To: 'ozDotNet'
|Subject: [OT] Really bad Telstra phone reception
|
|Hi all,
|
|
|
|I am now experiencing really bad Telstra phone signal. It used to be
fantastic, but
|is now appalling. I think they've deliberately downgraded the mobile 
|phone network to make their 4G look better, but those of us that don't 
|feel the
need to
|upgrade our phones just yet are expected to suck it up. Is there 
|anything
we can
|do about it?
|
|
|
|Regards,
|
|Tony

RE: [OT] Earthquake in Melbourne?

[Chris Walsh]

Apparently yes.

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Greg Keogh
Sent: Friday, 20 July 2012 7:14 PM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: [OT] Earthquake in Melbourne?

Was that another short quake in Melbourne ~19:12? House quivered for several 
seconds (no washing machine on!)-- Greg

RE: [OT] Earthquake in Melbourne?

[Chris Walsh]

Although nothing on here just yet.  http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/map/


From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Greg Keogh
Sent: Friday, 20 July 2012 7:14 PM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: [OT] Earthquake in Melbourne?

Was that another short quake in Melbourne ~19:12? House quivered for several 
seconds (no washing machine on!)-- Greg

RE: [OT] Earthquake in Melbourne?

[Chris Walsh]

Confirmed.
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/usb000bbhi#summary


From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Greg Keogh
Sent: Friday, 20 July 2012 7:33 PM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: [OT] Earthquake in Melbourne?

Apparently yes.

Thank heavens, either it was a quake or the Hellmouth is opening up under 
Cheltenham, again.

Aha! The ABC TV news weatherman just mentioned it being reported from the south 
east suburbs.

My computer room up here at the edge of the house must be poised or teetering 
like a gramophone needle, sensitive to the slightest vibration. Perhaps I 
should rent myself out as a monitoring post for the USGS (or have the stumps 
fixed again).

Greg

RE: Windows Phone 8 announced

[Chris Walsh]

Bill, 

I'm pretty sure the ACCC told telcos they had to warranty devices for the 
length of the contracts

Complete bullhonky there mate.  Telco's can have whatever length of contract 
they like, the Hardware warranty isn't anything they can control.  You can pay 
extra to the telco and NOT get a 24month play, you get the luck of the draw 
getting a phone on contract.  The ACCC tried to enforce it, but the ACCC didn't 
have a leg to stand on.

As for the commentary on whether 1st  2nd gen handsets would get the update, 
let's have a discussion about this.

Take a step back and look at your Lumia 800/900 new device for a minute.  The 
silicon running that device is 2+ years old, single core, no expandable memory, 
16GB of flash, with 512MB of RAM. 

As for the reason why existing devices couldn't be upgraded, you only need to 
look at the Shared Core features to realise that WP8 Core has been 
re-written from the ground up.  Basically putting existing gen 1  gen 2 
device manufacturers  Microsoft in a position, where they need to create new 
bootloaders to support Secure Boot  bitlocker encryption, even if they could 
magically do that, they've then got to repartition the NAND which stores the 
OS, RIL firmware, and even the separate update partition.  Try bundling that up 
into an update and pushing it out to existing devices.  Short answer is you 
can't.  To repartition the NAND you need to supply a complete device image 
(FFU), inside the FFU the partition maps are picked up by updatewp aka Zune 
and your device is repartitioned ready for the update.  One little tidbit, 
you've just lost your ENTIRE OS image, data, SMS messages and the Plants vs 
Zombie saved games you were hanging onto because you'd gotten past the first 
level.  And we all know that you can't backup anything with WP7+ devices :)  

Now that you've got a device image, you have one, there are 15+ devices out 
there, each device has the possibility of having a DIFFERENT image for each 
Mobile Operator, with 300+ MO's out there, you are looking at creating 4500+ 
complete device images.  Do you have any idea how long it takes to create 
complete device images?  Even once you've created one, the MO needs to TEST the 
image, they find an issue, it's sent back to the handset maker to fix, if it's 
Microsoft issue, then it goes back up the chain to fix a core issue, then 
another image is created, and you repeat the process, over  over  over again.

Miraculously the MO's have tested and approved the update, you have to cross 
your fingers, legs, toes  basically anything else when the END USERS are 
performing a COMPLETE device re-flash.  If there was one little stuff up, the 
user failed to download the update correctly, user was updating his/her device 
with a shitty 3rd party microUSB cable, they've now got a brick, a brick that 
can't be recovered.  The only possibility of a recover is if they didn't stuff 
up the bootloader flash, which is generally the first thing that gets flashed, 
which if something was to go wrong, is the first thing to break.  Even having 
the ability to JTAG a device, it won't recover it (if you are lucky to have a 
device that it's JTAG isn't locked).

Now, you've got a bricked device, that's out of warranty, but bricked because 
Microsoft  the Handset manufacturers decided to push down an update, even 
though you ticked a million boxes saying updating it was your fault, the end 
user still has a whinge, complains to 10+ people about shitty company X  Y 
because they bricked their phone, they'll also complain to the MO and most 
likely move to another carrier.  If the update was somehow successful, how many 
people was that end user tell and phrase Microsoft to?  Your answer is 1-2.  
But you are still going to whinge about losing your Plants vs Zombie game saves!

Now you've got a commercial issue which is really a cluster f**k of a decision 
and I've got no idea on how they make those.

Make sense?


-Original Message-
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Bill McCarthy
Sent: Wednesday, 27 June 2012 9:13 PM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: Windows Phone 8 announced

Hi Stephen,

Yes phones will be out of date, the question is whether it is months or years. 
In Australia, typical contracts are 24 months, and I'm pretty sure the ACCC 
told telcos they had to warranty devices for the length of the contracts. So 
two years is fair to expect to be a current lifetime; obviously there will be 
hardware improvements in that time, but the software and apps available you'd 
reasonably expect to be current. Apple deal with that by controlling the 
release dates of devices to a new device a year and OS support roughly of +1: 
hence you can be sure to get two years of being current.  Android has been all 
over the place, but the big players such as Samsung are also moving to give 
that period of currency by providing OS updates (eg Galaxy II).  For Windows 
Phone there 

RE: Windows Phone 8 announced

[Chris Walsh]

Hi Bill, 

Have you actually read it?  

Telstra has decided to do what's right and fair for consumers, and has been 
negotiating with manufacturers to bring in warranty periods that last for the 
length of a consumer's contract

They key word, negotiating.

If you want the 24 month warranty, you need to PAY for that extra feature if 
the handset manufacturer doesn't offer the 24 month policy.  HTC do.

http://www.telstra.com.au/mobile-phones/premium-care-mobile-insurance/?red=/mobile/premium-care-mobile-insurance.html


Nice little bit about the Excluding Apple scenario.  Bet the iFanBoys aren't 
crying about it.

-Original Message-
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Bill McCarthy
Sent: Thursday, 28 June 2012 11:05 AM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: Windows Phone 8 announced

HI Chris,

|I'm pretty sure the ACCC told telcos they had to warranty devices for 
|the
length
|of the contracts
|
|Complete bullhonky there mate.  Telco's can have whatever length of
contract
|they like, the Hardware warranty isn't anything they can control.  

ACCC issues warning to telcos:
http://www.accc.gov.au/content/index.phtml/itemId/924924

Telstra takes steps to strengthen warranties:
http://www.accc.gov.au/content/index.phtml/itemId/950648/fromItemId/142

Optus provides 24 month warranties:
http://www.accc.gov.au/content/index.phtml/itemId/966482

Vodafon:
http://www.accc.gov.au/content/index.phtml/itemId/909293/fromItemId/142






|-Original Message-
|From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet- 
|boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Chris Walsh
|Sent: Thursday, 28 June 2012 9:22 AM
|To: ozDotNet
|Subject: RE: Windows Phone 8 announced
|
|Bill,
|
|I'm pretty sure the ACCC told telcos they had to warranty devices for 
|the
length
|of the contracts
|
|Complete bullhonky there mate.  Telco's can have whatever length of
contract
|they like, the Hardware warranty isn't anything they can control.  You 
|can
pay
|extra to the telco and NOT get a 24month play, you get the luck of the 
|draw getting a phone on contract.  The ACCC tried to enforce it, but 
|the ACCC
didn't
|have a leg to stand on.
|
|As for the commentary on whether 1st  2nd gen handsets would get the
update,
|let's have a discussion about this.
|
|Take a step back and look at your Lumia 800/900 new device for a minute.
The
|silicon running that device is 2+ years old, single core, no expandable
memory,
|16GB of flash, with 512MB of RAM.
|
|As for the reason why existing devices couldn't be upgraded, you only 
|need
to
|look at the Shared Core features to realise that WP8 Core has been
re-written
|from the ground up.  Basically putting existing gen 1  gen 2 device 
|manufacturers  Microsoft in a position, where they need to create new 
|bootloaders to support Secure Boot  bitlocker encryption, even if 
|they
could
|magically do that, they've then got to repartition the NAND which 
|stores
the OS,
|RIL firmware, and even the separate update partition.  Try bundling 
|that up
into
|an update and pushing it out to existing devices.  Short answer is you
can't.  To
|repartition the NAND you need to supply a complete device image (FFU),
inside
|the FFU the partition maps are picked up by updatewp aka Zune and 
|your
device
|is repartitioned ready for the update.  One little tidbit, you've just 
|lost
your
|ENTIRE OS image, data, SMS messages and the Plants vs Zombie saved 
|games you were hanging onto because you'd gotten past the first level.  
|And we
all know
|that you can't backup anything with WP7+ devices :)
|
|Now that you've got a device image, you have one, there are 15+ devices 
|out there, each device has the possibility of having a DIFFERENT image 
|for each Mobile Operator, with 300+ MO's out there, you are looking at 
|creating
4500+
|complete device images.  Do you have any idea how long it takes to 
|create complete device images?  Even once you've created one, the MO 
|needs to TEST the image, they find an issue, it's sent back to the 
|handset maker to fix,
if it's
|Microsoft issue, then it goes back up the chain to fix a core issue, 
|then
another
|image is created, and you repeat the process, over  over  over again.
|
|Miraculously the MO's have tested and approved the update, you have to
cross
|your fingers, legs, toes  basically anything else when the END USERS 
|are performing a COMPLETE device re-flash.  If there was one little 
|stuff up,
the user
|failed to download the update correctly, user was updating his/her 
|device
with a
|shitty 3rd party microUSB cable, they've now got a brick, a brick that
can't be
|recovered.  The only possibility of a recover is if they didn't stuff 
|up
the
|bootloader flash, which is generally the first thing that gets flashed,
which if
|something was to go wrong, is the first thing to break.  Even having 
|the
ability to
|JTAG a device, it won't recover it (if you are lucky to have a device 
|that
it's JTAG
|isn't locked).
|
|Now, you've

RE: Kerberos Pt 2

[Chris Walsh]

Richard,

Typically, if you are running SSRS and SP2010 on the same boxes, they need to 
run the same service accounts for that very issue where two accounts can't use 
the same SPN's.  Also, SharePoint creates sites on port 80, the  site you 
might have configured could be the Administration port.

Have you enabled delegation on these service accounts in Active Directory?

You also need an FQDN SPN entry for each URL too.

And yes, you can't use a CNAME DNS entry for Kerberos, it must be an A record.

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Richard Carde
Sent: Wednesday, 23 November 2011 7:47 AM
To: ozdotnet
Subject: Kerberos Pt 2

Simon's recent issue with Kerberos reminded me of an issue I faced recently 
where Kerberos was failing.

This is possibly a question to Ken, but anyone else might want to chip in.  I 
do often refer people to Ken's multi-part blog on Kerberos.  It must have been 
written when Ken had some spare time, before he started sparring with Silky.   
I digress.

Imagine we have DEVSERVER with SSRS 2008 R2 and SharePoint 2010 installed.

I believe:

  *   SSRS was installed and configured to use service account domain\svcSSRS 
and listen on port 80, and
  *   SP2010 was installed and configured to use service account 
domain\svcSP2010 and listen on port .

Initially, the domain controllers were complaining about a duplicate SPN 
because HTTP/devserver was registered against both of the above service 
accounts.  This may have been because the guys were mucking around with SPNs 
trying to make things work.

So, to fix that I removed the SPN HTTP/devserver from domain\svcSP2010 and 
added the SPN as HTTP/devserver:.

No more complaints about duplicate SPNs.  Still didn't work though.

Introduce another server. Lets call it PITA - she, sadly, runs BizTalk 2010.

I NetMon'd with WireShark which showed that any process running on PITA still 
requested Kerberos tickets for HTTP/devserver no matter whether the ultimate 
request was for http://devserver:80 or http://devserver:.

In fact, I found that most (all?) requests do not add the port number.  SPNs 
support port numbers, clients don't request tickets with a port number?

My suggestion was to create DNS A records for the two servers and add the 
respective SPN to each service account (I already knew one cannot use a CNAME 
as the underlying hostname will be used anyway).

Have I not read something in the docs or is this a general gotcha that one 
should be aware of?

--
Richard Carde
E: rich...@carde.id.aumailto:rich...@carde.id.au

RE: IE10 preview - where is it?

[Chris Walsh]

http://ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/


From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Ian Thomas
Sent: Wednesday, 9 November 2011 1:08 PM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: IE10 preview - where is it?

Can someone direct me to an easy download of just IE10 w/o the whole of WinRT 
etc?
(I have a PDF rendering problem with Foxit PDF driver when printing web pages 
from IE9, and need to install IE10 Preview to see if it's different - IE8 is 
OK. )



Ian Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia

RE: Silverlight 4 OOB for Mac- Drag drop?

[Chris Walsh]

I don't think you can drag from the app onto the desktop in SL4 OOB, I know you 
can drag into the App.

With an OOB app, you've got access to My Documents in Window and the MAC 
equivalent.

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Winston Pang
Sent: Wednesday, 20 July 2011 2:12 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Silverlight 4 OOB for Mac- Drag drop?

Hey guys,

Work wants an app done, and just wondering if Silverlight has the capability to 
do the following, taking into account the app is SL4 and running OOB and with 
full trust.

- Drag something from a listbox in the app to desktop for example (needs to be 
cross platform compatible)
- Desktop/File handling? (cross compat too)

Are these possible? Mac OS X support is necessary

Thanks

-Winston

RE: [OT] Windows Phone 7 Plans

[Chris Walsh]

Reception and 3G speed.  The Telstra NextG network kills anything available in 
Australia

Sent from my Windows Phone

From: Stephen Liedig
Sent: 23 May 2011 19:12
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] Windows Phone 7  Plans

Why would you stay away from Vodafone or Optus? Are they no good?

On 23 May 2011 11:06, Chris Walsh ch...@walshie.memailto:ch...@walshie.me 
wrote:
If you don't want a massive screen, go with the HTC Mozart on Telstra.  Good 
pricing around the $49 plan as well, otherwise the HD7 is a good choice.  I 
would stay away from Vodafone and Optus though.

Sent from my Windows Phone

From: Stephen Liedig
Sent: Monday, 23 May 2011 12:44
To: ozDotNet
Subject: [OT] Windows Phone 7  Plans


Hello all,

have recently returned from spending a couple of years in the uk and wanted 
some advice / suggestions on Windows Phone 7 mobile devices and plans. Have 
been with Vodafone previously and they seemed ok, but there WP7 offerings are 
pretty slim. Can anyone suggest a decent carrier/phone? Was looking at the HD7 
from Telstra the other day but almost fainted when I heard the price!

Cheers,

Steve

RE: [OT] Windows Phone 7 Plans

[Chris Walsh]

If you don't want a massive screen, go with the HTC Mozart on Telstra.  Good 
pricing around the $49 plan as well, otherwise the HD7 is a good choice.  I 
would stay away from Vodafone and Optus though.

Sent from my Windows Phone

From: Stephen Liedig
Sent: Monday, 23 May 2011 12:44
To: ozDotNet
Subject: [OT] Windows Phone 7  Plans

Hello all,

have recently returned from spending a couple of years in the uk and wanted 
some advice / suggestions on Windows Phone 7 mobile devices and plans. Have 
been with Vodafone previously and they seemed ok, but there WP7 offerings are 
pretty slim. Can anyone suggest a decent carrier/phone? Was looking at the HD7 
from Telstra the other day but almost fainted when I heard the price!

Cheers,

Steve

RE: [OT] WP7 Development mailing list?

[Chris Walsh]

Huh?  Call forwarding exists.  Settings  Applications  Phone
Put in an phone number and you’re done.

But yes, there is no UI for call forward on busy.

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Anthony
Sent: Wednesday, 11 May 2011 4:05 PM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Development mailing list?

Call forwarding...call forward on busy etc...esssential feature lacking in wp7

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Nick Randolph
Sent: Wednesday, 11 May 2011 11:15 AM
To: ozDotNet; winphonelist-requ...@winphonelist.mobi
Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Development mailing list?

“service codes” – what are you trying to achieve?

Nick Randolph | Built to Roam Pty Ltd | Microsoft MVP – Windows Phone 
Development | +61 412 413 425
The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the 
intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email 
in any way. Built to Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or 
attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may 
not reflect the views or opinions of Built to Roam.

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Anthony
Sent: Wednesday, 11 May 2011 11:12 AM
To: 'ozDotNet'; winphonelist-requ...@winphonelist.mobi
Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Development mailing list?

Maybe b/c wp7 is so restrictivejoined the apphub thinking i could create a 
simple application using service codes...but appears this is not possible!  
thanks

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of David Connors
Sent: Wednesday, 11 May 2011 10:55 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] WP7 Development mailing list?

Yeah there is one we host - but it is nearly silent.

http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/winphonelist
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Anthony 
asale...@tpg.com.aumailto:asale...@tpg.com.au wrote:
Anyone know of one?

regards
Anthony (*12QWERNB*)





--
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www.codify.comhttp://www.codify.com
Software Engineer
Codify Pty Ltd
Phone: +61 (7) 3210 6268 | Facsimile: +61 (7) 3210 6269 | Mobile: +61 417 189 
363
V-Card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors
Address Info: https://www.codify.com/contact

RE: [OT] WP7 Development mailing list?

[Chris Walsh]

And all the service codes work just typing them into the Phone app ☺

http://www.accesscomms.com.au/reference/codes.htm


From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Anthony
Sent: Wednesday, 11 May 2011 4:05 PM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Development mailing list?

Call forwarding...call forward on busy etc...esssential feature lacking in wp7

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Nick Randolph
Sent: Wednesday, 11 May 2011 11:15 AM
To: ozDotNet; winphonelist-requ...@winphonelist.mobi
Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Development mailing list?

“service codes” – what are you trying to achieve?

Nick Randolph | Built to Roam Pty Ltd | Microsoft MVP – Windows Phone 
Development | +61 412 413 425
The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the 
intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email 
in any way. Built to Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or 
attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may 
not reflect the views or opinions of Built to Roam.

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Anthony
Sent: Wednesday, 11 May 2011 11:12 AM
To: 'ozDotNet'; winphonelist-requ...@winphonelist.mobi
Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Development mailing list?

Maybe b/c wp7 is so restrictivejoined the apphub thinking i could create a 
simple application using service codes...but appears this is not possible!  
thanks

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of David Connors
Sent: Wednesday, 11 May 2011 10:55 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] WP7 Development mailing list?

Yeah there is one we host - but it is nearly silent.

http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/winphonelist
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Anthony 
asale...@tpg.com.aumailto:asale...@tpg.com.au wrote:
Anyone know of one?

regards
Anthony (*12QWERNB*)





--
David Connors | da...@codify.commailto:da...@codify.com | 
www.codify.comhttp://www.codify.com
Software Engineer
Codify Pty Ltd
Phone: +61 (7) 3210 6268 | Facsimile: +61 (7) 3210 6269 | Mobile: +61 417 189 
363
V-Card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors
Address Info: https://www.codify.com/contact

RE: [OT] WP7 Development mailing list?

[Chris Walsh]

If it’s an app just for you, and you’ve got a dev unlocked account.  You can 
write a native app for WP7 to do it all.  But don’t bother trying to submit it 
to the marketplace.

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Anthony
Sent: Wednesday, 11 May 2011 4:19 PM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Development mailing list?

I know all the codes but wanted a quick why to turn on call forwarding..i use 
it about 3 times a day and would also like to schedule  them
WM6 had all the call forward types in gui


From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Nick Randolph
Sent: Wednesday, 11 May 2011 4:15 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Development mailing list?

Yeh, that’s why I didn’t understand the request

Nick Randolph | Built to Roam Pty Ltd | Microsoft MVP – Windows Phone 
Development | +61 412 413 425
The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the 
intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email 
in any way. Built to Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or 
attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may 
not reflect the views or opinions of Built to Roam.

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Chris Walsh
Sent: Wednesday, 11 May 2011 4:13 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Development mailing list?

And all the service codes work just typing them into the Phone app ☺

http://www.accesscomms.com.au/reference/codes.htm


From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Anthony
Sent: Wednesday, 11 May 2011 4:05 PM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Development mailing list?

Call forwarding...call forward on busy etc...esssential feature lacking in wp7

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Nick Randolph
Sent: Wednesday, 11 May 2011 11:15 AM
To: ozDotNet; winphonelist-requ...@winphonelist.mobi
Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Development mailing list?

“service codes” – what are you trying to achieve?

Nick Randolph | Built to Roam Pty Ltd | Microsoft MVP – Windows Phone 
Development | +61 412 413 425
The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the 
intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email 
in any way. Built to Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or 
attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may 
not reflect the views or opinions of Built to Roam.

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Anthony
Sent: Wednesday, 11 May 2011 11:12 AM
To: 'ozDotNet'; winphonelist-requ...@winphonelist.mobi
Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Development mailing list?

Maybe b/c wp7 is so restrictivejoined the apphub thinking i could create a 
simple application using service codes...but appears this is not possible!  
thanks

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of David Connors
Sent: Wednesday, 11 May 2011 10:55 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] WP7 Development mailing list?

Yeah there is one we host - but it is nearly silent.

http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/winphonelist
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Anthony 
asale...@tpg.com.aumailto:asale...@tpg.com.au wrote:
Anyone know of one?

regards
Anthony (*12QWERNB*)





--
David Connors | da...@codify.commailto:da...@codify.com | 
www.codify.comhttp://www.codify.com
Software Engineer
Codify Pty Ltd
Phone: +61 (7) 3210 6268 | Facsimile: +61 (7) 3210 6269 | Mobile: +61 417 189 
363
V-Card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors
Address Info: https://www.codify.com/contact

RE: [OT] WP7 Development mailing list?

[Chris Walsh]

If you’re familiar with C++  Windows Mobile 6 days, you can write a DLL to 
perform those tasks for you, and call that DLL using COM objects in Silverlight.

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Anthony
Sent: Wednesday, 11 May 2011 4:27 PM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Development mailing list?

I have unlocked wp7 phone..what do you mean by native app? I have already 
created a wp7 app but when i dial the service codes..its says ‘service codes 
can only be entered directly using the phones keypad’

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Chris Walsh
Sent: Wednesday, 11 May 2011 4:22 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Development mailing list?

If it’s an app just for you, and you’ve got a dev unlocked account.  You can 
write a native app for WP7 to do it all.  But don’t bother trying to submit it 
to the marketplace.

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Anthony
Sent: Wednesday, 11 May 2011 4:19 PM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Development mailing list?

I know all the codes but wanted a quick why to turn on call forwarding..i use 
it about 3 times a day and would also like to schedule  them
WM6 had all the call forward types in gui


From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Nick Randolph
Sent: Wednesday, 11 May 2011 4:15 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Development mailing list?

Yeh, that’s why I didn’t understand the request

Nick Randolph | Built to Roam Pty Ltd | Microsoft MVP – Windows Phone 
Development | +61 412 413 425
The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the 
intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email 
in any way. Built to Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or 
attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may 
not reflect the views or opinions of Built to Roam.

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Chris Walsh
Sent: Wednesday, 11 May 2011 4:13 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Development mailing list?

And all the service codes work just typing them into the Phone app ☺

http://www.accesscomms.com.au/reference/codes.htm


From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Anthony
Sent: Wednesday, 11 May 2011 4:05 PM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Development mailing list?

Call forwarding...call forward on busy etc...esssential feature lacking in wp7

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Nick Randolph
Sent: Wednesday, 11 May 2011 11:15 AM
To: ozDotNet; winphonelist-requ...@winphonelist.mobi
Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Development mailing list?

“service codes” – what are you trying to achieve?

Nick Randolph | Built to Roam Pty Ltd | Microsoft MVP – Windows Phone 
Development | +61 412 413 425
The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the 
intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email 
in any way. Built to Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or 
attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may 
not reflect the views or opinions of Built to Roam.

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Anthony
Sent: Wednesday, 11 May 2011 11:12 AM
To: 'ozDotNet'; winphonelist-requ...@winphonelist.mobi
Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Development mailing list?

Maybe b/c wp7 is so restrictivejoined the apphub thinking i could create a 
simple application using service codes...but appears this is not possible!  
thanks

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of David Connors
Sent: Wednesday, 11 May 2011 10:55 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] WP7 Development mailing list?

Yeah there is one we host - but it is nearly silent.

http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/winphonelist
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Anthony 
asale...@tpg.com.aumailto:asale...@tpg.com.au wrote:
Anyone know of one?

regards
Anthony (*12QWERNB*)





--
David Connors | da...@codify.commailto:da...@codify.com | 
www.codify.comhttp://www.codify.com
Software Engineer
Codify Pty Ltd
Phone: +61 (7) 3210 6268 | Facsimile: +61 (7) 3210 6269 | Mobile: +61 417 189 
363
V-Card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors
Address Info: https://www.codify.com/contact

RE: [OT] WP7 Development mailing list?

[Chris Walsh]

That is correct

Sent from my Windows Phone

From: Anthony
Sent: Wednesday, 11 May 2011 16:31
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Development mailing list?

Didn’t know that was possible with wp7..mmm..will investigate that.. you are 
saying that this would not allow me to submit to marketplace?

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Chris Walsh
Sent: Wednesday, 11 May 2011 4:30 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Development mailing list?

If you’re familiar with C++  Windows Mobile 6 days, you can write a DLL to 
perform those tasks for you, and call that DLL using COM objects in Silverlight.

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Anthony
Sent: Wednesday, 11 May 2011 4:27 PM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Development mailing list?

I have unlocked wp7 phone..what do you mean by native app? I have already 
created a wp7 app but when i dial the service codes..its says ‘service codes 
can only be entered directly using the phones keypad’

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Chris Walsh
Sent: Wednesday, 11 May 2011 4:22 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Development mailing list?

If it’s an app just for you, and you’ve got a dev unlocked account.  You can 
write a native app for WP7 to do it all.  But don’t bother trying to submit it 
to the marketplace.

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Anthony
Sent: Wednesday, 11 May 2011 4:19 PM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Development mailing list?

I know all the codes but wanted a quick why to turn on call forwarding..i use 
it about 3 times a day and would also like to schedule  them
WM6 had all the call forward types in gui


From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Nick Randolph
Sent: Wednesday, 11 May 2011 4:15 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Development mailing list?

Yeh, that’s why I didn’t understand the request

Nick Randolph | Built to Roam Pty Ltd | Microsoft MVP – Windows Phone 
Development | +61 412 413 425
The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the 
intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email 
in any way. Built to Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or 
attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may 
not reflect the views or opinions of Built to Roam.

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Chris Walsh
Sent: Wednesday, 11 May 2011 4:13 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Development mailing list?

And all the service codes work just typing them into the Phone app :)

http://www.accesscomms.com.au/reference/codes.htm


From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Anthony
Sent: Wednesday, 11 May 2011 4:05 PM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Development mailing list?

Call forwarding...call forward on busy etc...esssential feature lacking in wp7

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Nick Randolph
Sent: Wednesday, 11 May 2011 11:15 AM
To: ozDotNet; winphonelist-requ...@winphonelist.mobi
Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Development mailing list?

“service codes” – what are you trying to achieve?

Nick Randolph | Built to Roam Pty Ltd | Microsoft MVP – Windows Phone 
Development | +61 412 413 425
The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the 
intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email 
in any way. Built to Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or 
attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may 
not reflect the views or opinions of Built to Roam.

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Anthony
Sent: Wednesday, 11 May 2011 11:12 AM
To: 'ozDotNet'; winphonelist-requ...@winphonelist.mobi
Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Development mailing list?

Maybe b/c wp7 is so restrictivejoined the apphub thinking i could create a 
simple application using service codes...but appears this is not possible!  
thanks

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of David Connors
Sent: Wednesday, 11 May 2011 10:55 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] WP7 Development mailing list?

Yeah there is one we host - but it is nearly silent.

http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/winphonelist
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Anthony 
asale...@tpg.com.aumailto:asale...@tpg.com.au wrote:
Anyone know of one?

regards
Anthony (*12QWERNB*)





--
David Connors | da...@codify.commailto:da...@codify.com | 
www.codify.comhttp://www.codify.com
Software Engineer
Codify Pty Ltd
Phone: +61 (7) 3210 6268 | Facsimile: +61 (7) 3210 6269

RE: SSD minimum size question

[Chris Walsh]

Why not just turn off hibernation?  With an SSD, should only take you max 10 
seconds to boot.

Start command prompt as administrator  type in
Powercfg -h off

Done.

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Ian Thomas
Sent: Wednesday, 11 May 2011 3:37 PM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: SSD minimum size question

A colleague recently bought a desktop built by a local computer shop, and was 
talked into a 60Gb SSD drive as his system boot - his intuition was to go for 
120Gb.
No problems until he tried to install the SP1 of Windows 7 Ultimate, when 
Microsoft assistance calls still couldn't solve why it failed to install.
It turns out his 60Gb drive is 55Gb only, and he had 47Gb used. So he moved all 
his special folders off to another drive, and I suggested he change the swap 
file to another drive too.
The hibernate file apparently can't be moved.
Anyway, this just an interim strategy until he gets SP1 of Windows 7 installed. 
Then I guess he can put the swap file onto the SSD to get performance back.
It raises the question to me of what size system drive - SSD or other - is 
optimum (and how the hell do you decide on that)?


Ian Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia

RE: [OT] TabletPC recommendations

[Chris Walsh]

Which site did you get the ASUS EEE Slate from?  The only thing missing from it 
is a 3G gobi.

-Original Message-
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Stephen Price
Sent: Thursday, 5 May 2011 4:45 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] TabletPC recommendations

I've just bought an ASUS Eee slate. Windows 7, i5, 64Gb ssd, 4Gb ram.
Wacom screen (pen) and touch. Comes with bluetooth keyboard.
Still waiting for it, but have heard its really nice to use. The reviews of all 
the tablets from a recent tech show rate it as the best tablet currently 
available. I'll let you know what I think when I get it.

I have an iPad but keep hitting things that I can't do on it. Flash, 
Silverlight, Software Dev. Great as an ebook reader, and for games but I keep 
finding myself having to get up and go find a real computer.

cheers,
Stephen

On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 2:41 PM, Tom Rutter therut...@gmail.com wrote:
 Looking into a tablet for a mate. he's a builder and will look at 
 stuff like invoices, diagrams, building plans and wants to run some 
 kind of project management software like ms project. Any recommendations?
 He was looking at the ipad also at some point so doesn't have to be a 
 tablet necessarliy Cheers

RE: writting apps that run on phones and dial phone numbers

[Chris Walsh]

Also look at http://nickstravels.builttoroam.com

Nick Randolph has started a trio of blog posts on writing cross platform apps.

Sent from my Windows Phone

-Original Message-
From: Arjang Assadi
Sent: Monday, 25 April 2011 20:34
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: writting apps that run on phones and dial phone numbers


http://www.silverlight.net/getstarted/devices/windows-phone/

On 25 April 2011 19:20, Kirsten Greed kirst...@jobtalk.com.au wrote:
 Hi All



 Can anyone give me an idea how to write an app that runs on Android and/or
 iphone and/or windows 7 phone

 The user would search for a contact and then press a DIAL button

 The contacts database would sync with the corporate one  ( via Microsoft
 Sync Framework I expect )



 Where do I start?



 Thanks

 Kirsten

RE: WP7 - next OS (Mango) seems good

[Chris Walsh]

Hahaha.

Well tell her when she is playing her Xbox live games they won’t pause for a 
second while the GC kicks in to do the good stuff :P

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of David Connors
Sent: Thursday, 14 April 2011 11:59 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: WP7 - next OS (Mango) seems good

On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Chris Walsh 
ch...@walshie.memailto:ch...@walshie.me wrote:
Don’t forget Silverlight 4 on the phone with Generational Garbage Collector, 
background agents, background download service, access to contacts  calendar 
features, application deep linking, the list goes on and on.

Yeah I'll tell my Mrs about the generational garbage collector tonight and see 
what she thinks. I think that will result in a recollection that it was she and 
not I that took the bins out on Tuesday.

Best I stay quiet.

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RE: [OT] Virtual machine alternatives

[Chris Walsh]

Why not use the XP 
Modehttp://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/download.aspx functionality 
in Win7?

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Greg Keogh
Sent: Thursday, 7 April 2011 3:03 PM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: [OT] Virtual machine alternatives

Folks, I'm just building a new machine for my wife. She needs Win7 as the boot 
OS and XP virtualised. I was wondering what choices I have for virtualising and 
avoiding problems with mouse jitter and video performance in the virtual OS.

I ask because early last year I had to drop VMWare Server because of mouse, 
sound and video performance problems with XP. I moved to WMWare Player and the 
sound and video problems seem to be solved.

Microsoft VM is also a contender I suppose, but I haven't used it for a couple 
of years.

What's the latest recommendation for a home user machine with Win7 and virtual 
XP?

Greg

RE: [OT] Virtual machine alternatives

[Chris Walsh]

I know what XP Mode is, Virtual PC by itself is worse than the XP Mode 
implementation of it.

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Ken Schaefer
Sent: Thursday, 7 April 2011 3:44 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: [OT] Virtual machine alternatives

What do you think XP Mode is?

Cheers
Ken

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Chris Walsh
Sent: Thursday, 7 April 2011 1:28 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: [OT] Virtual machine alternatives

Haha, when one talks about Virtualization, one shouldn't mention Virtual PC.  
*shudders*

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Craig van Nieuwkerk
Sent: Thursday, 7 April 2011 3:26 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] Virtual machine alternatives

Unless you are comparing to Microsoft Virtual PC in which case VirtualBox 
performance is outstanding!
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Chris Walsh 
ch...@walshie.memailto:ch...@walshie.me wrote:
Virtual box is okish, but when you're looking for semi decent perf I wouldn't 
bother.

RE: Raising property changed events

[Chris Walsh]

Apparently (according to Brendon Forster :)) All the cool kids are using this.

http://code.google.com/p/notifypropertyweaver/



From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of David Burela
Sent: Wednesday, 23 March 2011 1:57 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Raising property changed events

Raising property changed events seems like something that most applications 
need to do at some stage. C#3 introduced the auto property i.e. public bool 
IsBusy { get; set; }
I am surprised that there isn't a way built into the framework to automatically 
raise changed events


Anyway, i saw this code used at a client site. it seems like a smart way to 
handle the raised event without using fragile strings that might not get 
updated when you change the property name

private bool isBusy;
public bool IsBusy
{
get { return isBusy; }
set
{
isDialogProcessing = value;

RaisePropertyChanged(System.Reflection.MethodBase.GetCurrentMethod().Name.Substring(4));
}
}


Thought I'd throw it out there. See how other people are handling property 
changed events in their own projects.
I'm sure there is an AOP way of introducing them. But all the AOP demos I have 
watched seem to increase compilation times by heaps.

-David Burela

RE: Raising property changed events

[Chris Walsh]

But I like using a few extension methods pulled from ReactiveUI libraries.

public static TRet RaiseAndSetIfChangedTObj, TRet(this TObj vm, 
ExpressionFuncTObj, TRet property, ref TRet backingField, TRet newValue)
where TObj : ViewModelBase {
if (EqualityComparerTRet.Default.Equals(backingField, newValue)) {
return newValue;
}
backingField = newValue;
vm.RaisePropertyChanged(property);
return newValue;


string _thirdProperty;

public string ThirdProperty {

get {

return _thirdProperty;

}

set {

this.RaiseAndSetIfChanged(x = x.ThirdProperty, ref 
_thirdProperty, value);

}

}


From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Chris Walsh
Sent: Wednesday, 23 March 2011 1:59 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: Raising property changed events

Apparently (according to Brendon Forster :)) All the cool kids are using this.

http://code.google.com/p/notifypropertyweaver/



From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of David Burela
Sent: Wednesday, 23 March 2011 1:57 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Raising property changed events

Raising property changed events seems like something that most applications 
need to do at some stage. C#3 introduced the auto property i.e. public bool 
IsBusy { get; set; }
I am surprised that there isn't a way built into the framework to automatically 
raise changed events


Anyway, i saw this code used at a client site. it seems like a smart way to 
handle the raised event without using fragile strings that might not get 
updated when you change the property name

private bool isBusy;
public bool IsBusy
{
get { return isBusy; }
set
{
isDialogProcessing = value;

RaisePropertyChanged(System.Reflection.MethodBase.GetCurrentMethod().Name.Substring(4));
}
}


Thought I'd throw it out there. See how other people are handling property 
changed events in their own projects.
I'm sure there is an AOP way of introducing them. But all the AOP demos I have 
watched seem to increase compilation times by heaps.

-David Burela

RE: [OT] Lightweight laptop for dev and demos

[Chris Walsh]

The only thing they've tweaked is putting a windows button.

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of William Luu
Sent: Tuesday, 22 March 2011 1:14 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] Lightweight laptop for dev and demos

It may look the same/similar. But they do tweak the design a little over time.

I guess it is their look.
On 22 March 2011 10:33, Noon Silk 
noonsli...@gmail.commailto:noonsli...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Stephen Price
step...@littlevoices.commailto:step...@littlevoices.com wrote:
 Is it me or do the Lenovo laptops look exactly the same as they did 20 years
 ago?
It's not just you.

--
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Fancy a quantum lunch?
http://www.mirios.com.au:8081/index.php?title=Quantum_Lunch

Every morning when I wake up, I experience an exquisite joy - the joy
of being this signature.

RE: Obtaining support hotfixes from Microsoft

[Chris Walsh]

Here it is.

http://support.microsoft.com/hotfix/KBHotfix.aspx?kbnum=971521kbln=en-us


From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Joseph Clark
Sent: Monday, 21 March 2011 2:18 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Obtaining support hotfixes from Microsoft

Hi List,

I've recently run into some deployment problems on a local SharePoint server.  
A bit of digging reveals a KB article (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971521/) 
as a likely culprit.  The article says there is a hotfix download available, 
but either I am blind, the hotfix is not available for public download, or I 
have to contact Microsoft to obtain the patch?

What's the correct procedure here?

Thanks,
Joe.

RE: Obtaining support hotfixes from Microsoft

[Chris Walsh]

That's link works with most kb articles, just replace the number in the URL 
with your requesting KB number and hey presto you've got your hotfixes

Sent from my Windows Phone

From: Joseph Clark
Sent: Monday, 21 March 2011 16:51
To: ozDotNet
Cc: Chris Walsh
Subject: Re: Obtaining support hotfixes from Microsoft

Thanks, Chris.  Looks like it's done the trick, too!

@DavidBurstin: Thanks ;-) I did see that blurb, but it seemed counter-intuitive 
to me to publicly post details of a bug and fix, but then make people go 
through the support system to get their hands on the fix anyway.  I wanted to 
make sure that I wasn't missing something glaringly obvious on the page.

ozdotnet saves the day, yet again.

Joe.



On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Chris Walsh 
ch...@walshie.memailto:ch...@walshie.me wrote:
Here it is.

http://support.microsoft.com/hotfix/KBHotfix.aspx?kbnum=971521kbln=en-us


From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com 
[mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Joseph Clark
Sent: Monday, 21 March 2011 2:18 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Obtaining support hotfixes from Microsoft

Hi List,

I've recently run into some deployment problems on a local SharePoint server.  
A bit of digging reveals a KB article (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971521/) 
as a likely culprit.  The article says there is a hotfix download available, 
but either I am blind, the hotfix is not available for public download, or I 
have to contact Microsoft to obtain the patch?

What's the correct procedure here?

Thanks,
Joe.

RE: Handling 3rd party assemblies with build servers

[Chris Walsh]

Nice spotting there ;-)


From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of David Burela
Sent: Thursday, 17 March 2011 1:13 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: Handling 3rd party assemblies with build servers

For anyone interested, I just saw this article come up on Twitter which 
explains how to do this exact thing for the WinPhone7 tools
http://justinangel.net/#BlogPost=TFS2010WP7ContinuousIntegration

-David Burela
On 10 February 2011 16:22, Matt Siebert 
mlsieb...@gmail.commailto:mlsieb...@gmail.com wrote:
I guess I was reluctant because of the delay involved in doing a checkout over 
a slow network - i.e. if I did a checkout from home then it'd take forever 
since the office's upstream bandwidth is so slow.

That said it's pretty rare to do a full checkout (usually just updates) so I 
think I can live with it.

Thanks.

On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Noon Silk 
noonsli...@gmail.commailto:noonsli...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Matt Siebert 
mlsieb...@gmail.commailto:mlsieb...@gmail.com wrote:
 Like others I use a 3rdParty folder for my dependencies, but I'm undecided
 whether to do this for my installer bootstrapper.

 So far I've been embedding the .NET 4 web installer (869 KB) which I've
 added to my 3rdParty folder so it's included in a fresh checkout in order to
 build the bootstrapper.  We've recently had requests to embed the standalone
 installer instead of the web installer.  This adds 35.3 MB for the x86
 installer, and 48.1 MB for the x64 installer.  I want to add these to the
 3rdParty folder to avoid path dependencies on the machine used to build the
 bootstrapper, but I'm not keen on adding 83.4 MB of binary files to my
 repository.

 How do others handle this?
I think 83.4 meg is not much to be concerned about to add to the
repository. The primary goal, for me, is to have a repo that holds
*everything* that is needed for the project to be considered
complete. Clearly, you don't need to add binaries that are generated
by the build, but if they are required to do things, like NAnt or
NUnit, then I add them.

--
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Fancy a quantum lunch?
http://www.mirios.com.au:8081/index.php?title=Quantum_Lunch

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of being this signature.

RE: External Security testing of websites

[Chris Walsh]

Isn't there an MSFT tool that you can use?  I remember hearing something at 
teched 2010.

Sent from my Windows Phone

-Original Message-
From: Rob Andrew
Sent: Tuesday, 15 March 2011 18:48
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: External Security testing of websites


On a related note, does anyone have a cheatsheet/checklist of common web
checks to perform with respect to securing a website against common attacks?

Thanks
Rob

-Original Message-
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of Simon Haigh
Sent: Tuesday, 15 March 2011 4:04 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: OT: External Security testing of websites

How do people get their websites tested by 3rd party security firms
without publishing them to a live environment and running the risk of
the site being hacked and/or internal networks being compromised.

Do people have a 2nd 'sandbox' environment which is totally isolated
(airgapped) from your main business networks or do you just take the
risk.

Thanks
Simon

On 3/15/11, mike smith meski...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 3:12 PM, David Connors da...@codify.com wrote:
 [Window Title]
 Windows Internet Explorer 9
 [Main Instruction]
 Internet Explorer 9 is now installed
 [Content]
 Some Internet Explorer files were in use during setup. Restart your
 computer
 to use Internet Explorer 9.
 [Restart now] [Restart later]
 Fail.

 Yes, you still can't close IE completely...

 and


http://www.itnews.com.au/News/251183,non-microsoft-hypervisors-miss-ie9-acce
leration.aspx

 VMware, and I don't know which others.


 --
 Meski

 Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure,
 you'll get it, but it's going to be rough - Adam Hills


--
Sent from my mobile device

RE: IE9 RTW

[Chris Walsh]

I'd be interested to see their release plans but I wouldn't count on a 9.5

Seeing how they've been the past few releases I'm not excited.

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of David Burela
Sent: Tuesday, 15 March 2011 2:49 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: IE9 RTW

The final release Internet Explorer 9 is now available http://beautyoftheweb.com
Go download it.

Thoughts?
I'm wondering if we'll start seeing smaller point releases (IE 9.5) as things 
get standardized. There has been a lot of talk about the release schedules of 
competing browsers (Firefox, Chrome).

-David Burela

RE: WPF Newbie quesion

[Chris Walsh]

But if you want a default double click action to open it in blend from the IDE, 
you can change the defaults in the vs2010 options from memory.

Sent from my Windows Phone

From: Peter Maddin
Sent: Wednesday, 23 February 2011 13:00
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: WPF Newbie quesion

I am working on my first serious WPF application using VS2010.

I have installed Expression Blend 4.

What do I set in VS2010 so I can open my xaml in Expression Blend 4?

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RE: 500 - Internal server error

[Chris Walsh]

Glad to see the issue was GoDaddy.  I've steered clear of their hosting 
offerings as all I hear is trouble.

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Greg Keogh
Sent: Thursday, 6 January 2011 12:48 PM
To: g...@aquarius.com.au; 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: 500 - Internal server error

Glen, Ken, Folks

After a couple of hours, thanks for procmon telling which accounts were getting 
ACCESS DENIED I managed to get a plain web site working, then as simple ASPX 
page and a simple SVC displaying in a browser. I had to enable Basic, Windows 
and Anonymous authentication, then assign the Classic ASP.NET 4 pool to NETWORK 
SERVICE, then give IUSR read permissions to all web site folders and ASP.NET 
app virtual folders, then give NETWORK SERVICE modify permission to ASP.NET 
virtual folders.

What worries me is: why did I need to set permissions? I've never done it 
before and it seems wrong. So wrong that I suspect I must have some fundamental 
IIS setting wrong elsewhere.

The GoDaddy domain is now totally screwed to hell and I'm trying to delete and 
recreate it, but even that hasn't worked. it's disabled the domain and there is 
no obvious way to delete and recreate it with defaults back again. Somehow I 
destroyed the aspx handler in the domain and nothing will get it working again. 
I'm getting MIME errors and it thinks ASPX files are script files and won't 
serve them.

So now we're making a ticket with GoDaddy support asking how to delete and 
recreate a domain.

Now I have proof that my vanilla Win2008 box and serve htm, aspx and svc files 
after careful tweaking, this indicates that my problems on the GoDaddy Win2008 
box are specific to it.

A warning to anyone about GoDaddy --- Their virtual server's are 
over-engineered with an administrative tool called PLESK. It's a comprehensive 
and clever web front-end management tool for almost everything in the Win2008 
OS. The trouble is that it puts its sticky fingers into almost everything in 
the OS and makes traditional management tasks nearly impossible, as you seem to 
be fighting it all the way. It has put non-standard handlers into all of the 
web sites, and I removed and destroyed one of them.

I'm not confident that a dedicated IIS forum would be of much help either. All 
of the advice so far in here has made perfect sense, but the GoDaddy box 
resists all efforts to configure it.

Greg

RE: 500 - Internal server error

[Chris Walsh]

Enable remote errors to see the real underlying issue.  My guess is wcf isn't 
configured which a aspnet_regiis -I will fix it.

Sent from my Windows Phone

From: Greg Keogh
Sent: Tuesday, 4 January 2011 17:53
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: 500 - Internal server error

Folks, I've been trying for hours to deploy a WCF HTTP Web Service onto a 
Win2008 server. I've been through all of the configuration steps I can think of 
in IIS, which I've done many times before on other Win 2003 servers. This is my 
first attempt to install this thing on Win2008, but I can't imagine it would be 
much different. When I browse the URL and SVC file I get this:

Server Error
500 - Internal server error.
There is a problem with the resource you are looking for, and it cannot be 
displayed.

Absolutely nothing I do will give me anything but this error. Is there some 
trick I can pull to try and get more diagnostic information?

Thanks
Greg

RE: [OT] Windows 7 with SD Card?

[Chris Walsh]

They are supported.  They just haven't released any that are certified with 
WP7.

You're after a card with high random access performance.  The Class indicator 
isn't relevant in this category.  If you've got a card with a high class, 
chances are that it's random access performance is quite low as they've tuned 
it down to achieve high throughput.  Which is why, if you're going to be 
replacing it, use a Class 2 or Class 4 card.  Nothing greater than a class 4.

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Anthony
Sent: Thursday, 9 December 2010 9:48 AM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: [OT] Windows 7 with SD Card?

If you have no SD Card then you are more likely to send/receive data using the 
wirelesss network...you can't swap cards etc   I find it strange that external 
SD Card is not supported.  SD Cards were supported in wm6.5

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of David Kean
Sent: Thursday, 9 December 2010 4:29 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: [OT] Windows 7 with SD Card?

Make note that although the Focus has replaceable card - there's nothing 
currently on the market that is supported by Microsoft, ie you won't be able to 
get a bigger card for a while.

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Ken Schaefer
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 9:07 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: [OT] Windows 7 with SD Card?

No - there is no more data. MSFT posted officially that it's a performance 
issue. In order to deliver adequate performance only SD cards that meet certain 
perf specs will be accepted. The perf specs do not match any of the current 
class specifications that currently exist.

In terms of user access - no requirement in the spec for user access. The fact 
that there are micro SD cards used by the vendor is just a cost measure - to 
implement some other interface to memory would be more expensive (hence some of 
the phones use an SD interface but have the memory soldered onboard)

Why do you think there is more data to be transmitted? The onboard storage is 
the same - it's just that it's not user replaceable.

Cheers
Ken

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Anthony
Sent: Wednesday, 8 December 2010 5:38 PM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: [OT] Windows 7 with SD Card?

This sounds like a  htc/telco agreement..more dat across the air..more money

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Ken Schaefer
Sent: Wednesday, 8 December 2010 6:48 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: [OT] Windows 7 with SD Card?

Apparently most of these phones use SD cards for their storage (even if 
soldered to the board). Some appear to be replaceable (buy you may void your 
warranty). You will also lose all your data as the phone creates a file system 
that unifies the storage across any onboard storage and the SD card.

A couple of other points: no one knows what the minimum requirements for the SD 
card are - MS hasn't released any certifications for 3rd party micro-SD cards 
yet. And the phone implements the secure part of SD - it's encrypted. If you 
want to use the card somewhere else, you need an SD card reader that implements 
the necessary functionality to erase SD cards with the security enabled.

Cheers
Ken

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Anthony
Sent: Wednesday, 8 December 2010 2:20 PM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: [OT] Windows 7 with SD Card?


Looking at getting a HTC or Samsung WM phone..but it appears no SD Card is 
present?

RE: [OT] Windows 7 with SD Card?

[Chris Walsh]

U can't change the card in HTC devices without voiding the warranty.  And the 
samsung model u need os the focus

Sent from my Windows Phone

From: Anthony
Sent: Wednesday, 8 December 2010 17:20
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: [OT] Windows 7 with SD Card?


Looking at getting a HTC or Samsung WM phone..but it appears no SD Card is 
present?

RE: [OT] Developer Laptop

[Chris Walsh]

I'd suggest looking at the Lenovo 
http://shopap.lenovo.com/au/en/products/professional-grade/thinkpad/w-series/index.html
 W510.  They aren't cheap, but if you need more than 8GB, they're your best bet.

Cheers
Chris
@http://twitter.com/ChrisWalshieChrisWalshiehttp://twitter.com/ChrisWalshie


From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] on behalf 
of James Chapman-Smith [ja...@enigmativity.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2010 11:13
To: Oz Dot Net
Subject: [OT] Developer Laptop

Hi folks,

I’ve been using a Dell XPS M1710 laptop now for the nearly the last 4 years. 
It’s been a good little beast and it still performs better than many of the 
newer machines that I get lumbered with on some client sites.

It is now time for me to upgrade. Being a development machine I want good 
graphics, lots of screen real estate (1920x1200 preferred) and memory (12GB+).

I’ve initially looked at the latest Dell offering – the XPS 
17http://www1.ap.dell.com/au/en/home/notebooks/xps-17/pd.aspx?refid=xps-17s=dhscs=audhs1~ck=mn
 – it looks good, it can be configured with 16GB of RAM, but it only has 
1680x900 resolution. The XPS 
15http://www1.ap.dell.com/au/en/home/notebooks/xps-15/pd.aspx?refid=xps-15s=dhscs=audhs1~ck=mn
 offers 1920x1080 but has an 8GB RAM limit. The other Dell offerings are 
getting old so I’d like to avoid them.

So it might be time to jump ship from Dell.

I’m looking for advice from my fellow devs on which laptop brands and/or models 
are highly regarded. I’m happy to pay for quality.

What laptop can anyone recommend for my next dev machine?

Cheers.

James.

RE: [OT] Developer Laptop

[Chris Walsh]

I personally use a Dell Latitude E6510.  Works like a charm, 8GB RAM Core i7, 
SSD blah blah, can't fault it (now).  It was a replacement from Dell for the 
horrible E6500.

For twice the price the Lenovo's aren't worth it.  Paying a fortune for on-site 
warranty etc where Dell it's cheaper.  I'd go with the new XPS 15 laptops.  But 
if you really need 8+GB of RAM, you're stuck at the moment for something new.

As the XPS 14, 15,  17 models are new.  Might take some time to filter down 
with new options.  Might be worth pinging @MartyAtDell to see if he knows any 
more on the 17 models.


From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] on behalf 
of Craig van Nieuwkerk [crai...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2010 15:45
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] Developer Laptop

I have seen people recommend Lenovo before. Looking at the W510 it seems to be 
around twice the price of a similar spec'd Dell. What makes it worth the 
additional cash?

Craig.

On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 3:37 PM, Chris Walsh 
ch...@walshie.memailto:ch...@walshie.me wrote:
I'd suggest looking at the Lenovo 
http://shopap.lenovo.com/au/en/products/professional-grade/thinkpad/w-series/index.html
 W510.  They aren't cheap, but if you need more than 8GB, they're your best bet.

Cheers
Chris
@http://twitter.com/ChrisWalshieChrisWalshiehttp://twitter.com/ChrisWalshie


From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com 
[ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] on behalf 
of James Chapman-Smith [ja...@enigmativity.commailto:ja...@enigmativity.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2010 11:13
To: Oz Dot Net
Subject: [OT] Developer Laptop

Hi folks,

I’ve been using a Dell XPS M1710 laptop now for the nearly the last 4 years. 
It’s been a good little beast and it still performs better than many of the 
newer machines that I get lumbered with on some client sites.

It is now time for me to upgrade. Being a development machine I want good 
graphics, lots of screen real estate (1920x1200 preferred) and memory (12GB+).

I’ve initially looked at the latest Dell offering – the XPS 
17http://www1.ap.dell.com/au/en/home/notebooks/xps-17/pd.aspx?refid=xps-17s=dhscs=audhs1~ck=mn
 – it looks good, it can be configured with 16GB of RAM, but it only has 
1680x900 resolution. The XPS 
15http://www1.ap.dell.com/au/en/home/notebooks/xps-15/pd.aspx?refid=xps-15s=dhscs=audhs1~ck=mn
 offers 1920x1080 but has an 8GB RAM limit. The other Dell offerings are 
getting old so I’d like to avoid them.

So it might be time to jump ship from Dell.

I’m looking for advice from my fellow devs on which laptop brands and/or models 
are highly regarded. I’m happy to pay for quality.

What laptop can anyone recommend for my next dev machine?

Cheers.

James.

RE: [OT] WP7 Handset/device

[Chris Walsh]

Really depends on what network you're wanting to use it on.  If its Telstra, 
there are only TWO in the US that use the 850Mhz 3G band, the Samsung Focus   
the HTC Surround.

If it is on Optus, Three or Voda, they use the 2100Mhz  900Mhz 3G bands, so 
you're pretty much set on 7 out of the 9 launch devices support those bands.

The REAL device apart from the HTC Mozart is the Dell Venue Pro, but it isn't 
on the 850Mhz band, but has Gorilla Glass, AMOLED screen, expansive memory  
portrait slider.

-Original Message-
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of .net noobie
Sent: Thursday, 4 November 2010 9:56 PM
To: ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com
Subject: [OT] WP7 Handset/device

Does anyone know where you can buy a WP7 Handset/device outright without a plan?

Telstra are selling them I think but there price is pretty high and only have 2 
phones 
http://www.lifehacker.com.au/2010/10/telstra-sets-outright-buy-prices-for-windows-phone-7-handsets/

What do people think about buying a handset from overseas to try and get a 
better price?
e.g. ATT are selling phones for 199.99 USD, but I don't know the details as in 
it this is on some kind of plan or just the handset outright? or if the handset 
will be locked to ATT etc...

I like the look of the Samsung Omnia 7 from Optus

the The HTC Mozart, has a better camera 8 Mega Pixel

what models do people think is best and why?

in the US there is a Samsung Focus which people seem to like a lot, is the 
Samsung Omnia 7 basically the same/Australian version?

Is there going to be any advantage to getting a phone on a plan, rather then 
getting a handset and putting in my own Sim card?
e.g. will the phone company have any extra features I will not get if I just 
put in my own Sim card?

these are/seem to be the options for Australian handsets 
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-au/buy/7/phones.aspx#mode=all
as I said above I like the Samsung Omnia 7 so any comments on why I should or 
should not choose a different model would be great

thanks noobie

RE: [OT] WP7 Handset/device

[Chris Walsh]

I am, but really depends on if you want an Australian warranty etc...  If you 
purchase it from MobiCity the phones don't have an AU warranty.

I'd suggest getting it outright via Telstra.  Or if you want a plan, get it on 
via Telstra, free on a $49 plan, and the phones are unlocked by default.

-Original Message-
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of .net noobie
Sent: Thursday, 4 November 2010 10:11 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] WP7 Handset/device

Chris, so you are suggesting the HTC Mozart, is best model to get?

On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 9:08 PM, .net noobie dotnetnoo...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://www.mobicity.com.au/phone-categories/smartphones/windows/window
 s-phone.html?order=pricedir=asc

 On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 9:07 PM, Chris Walsh ch...@walshie.me wrote:
 Really depends on what network you're wanting to use it on.  If its Telstra, 
 there are only TWO in the US that use the 850Mhz 3G band, the Samsung Focus  
  the HTC Surround.

 If it is on Optus, Three or Voda, they use the 2100Mhz  900Mhz 3G bands, so 
 you're pretty much set on 7 out of the 9 launch devices support those bands.

 The REAL device apart from the HTC Mozart is the Dell Venue Pro, but it 
 isn't on the 850Mhz band, but has Gorilla Glass, AMOLED screen, expansive 
 memory  portrait slider.

 -Original Message-
 From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com 
 [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of .net noobie
 Sent: Thursday, 4 November 2010 9:56 PM
 To: ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com
 Subject: [OT] WP7 Handset/device

 Does anyone know where you can buy a WP7 Handset/device outright without a 
 plan?

 Telstra are selling them I think but there price is pretty high and 
 only have 2 phones 
 http://www.lifehacker.com.au/2010/10/telstra-sets-outright-buy-prices
 -for-windows-phone-7-handsets/

 What do people think about buying a handset from overseas to try and get a 
 better price?
 e.g. ATT are selling phones for 199.99 USD, but I don't know the details as 
 in it this is on some kind of plan or just the handset outright? or if the 
 handset will be locked to ATT etc...

 I like the look of the Samsung Omnia 7 from Optus

 the The HTC Mozart, has a better camera 8 Mega Pixel

 what models do people think is best and why?

 in the US there is a Samsung Focus which people seem to like a lot, is the 
 Samsung Omnia 7 basically the same/Australian version?

 Is there going to be any advantage to getting a phone on a plan, rather then 
 getting a handset and putting in my own Sim card?
 e.g. will the phone company have any extra features I will not get if I just 
 put in my own Sim card?

 these are/seem to be the options for Australian handsets 
 http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-au/buy/7/phones.aspx#mode=al
 l as I said above I like the Samsung Omnia 7 so any comments on why 
 I should or should not choose a different model would be great

 thanks noobie

RE: [OT] WP7 Handset/device

[Chris Walsh]

It's actually 500MB, and you can change that, I managed to get 3GB on the $79 
plan for an extra $3.


From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Simon Reed
Sent: Thursday, 4 November 2010 10:23 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] WP7 Handset/device

Not really with Telstra you only get a pitiful 400mb allowance and I burned 
through half of that in 3 hours of getting the phone. A lot of that was buying 
apps setting up accounts and syncing data tho. I have the data turned off 
except for wifi.
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 7:20 PM, .net noobie 
dotnetnoo...@gmail.commailto:dotnetnoo...@gmail.com wrote:
thanks Chris

does anyone who has used a WP7 have an Idea on the volume of data it
uses in general use when it is loading your emails and pics, twitter
posts etc

On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 9:16 PM, .net noobie 
dotnetnoo...@gmail.commailto:dotnetnoo...@gmail.com wrote:
 I lost my phone in Sydney airport, I left it on a bench, came back a
 couple minutes later some prick had already taken it
 so I been waiting to buy a WP7 phone, but I am not so keen on the
 planes/contracts to a telco company

 On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 9:10 PM, .net noobie 
 dotnetnoo...@gmail.commailto:dotnetnoo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Chris, so you are suggesting the HTC Mozart, is best model to get?

 On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 9:08 PM, .net noobie 
 dotnetnoo...@gmail.commailto:dotnetnoo...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://www.mobicity.com.au/phone-categories/smartphones/windows/windows-phone.html?order=pricedir=asc

 On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 9:07 PM, Chris Walsh 
 ch...@walshie.memailto:ch...@walshie.me wrote:
 Really depends on what network you're wanting to use it on.  If its 
 Telstra, there are only TWO in the US that use the 850Mhz 3G band, the 
 Samsung Focus   the HTC Surround.

 If it is on Optus, Three or Voda, they use the 2100Mhz  900Mhz 3G bands, 
 so you're pretty much set on 7 out of the 9 launch devices support those 
 bands.

 The REAL device apart from the HTC Mozart is the Dell Venue Pro, but it 
 isn't on the 850Mhz band, but has Gorilla Glass, AMOLED screen, expansive 
 memory  portrait slider.

 -Original Message-
 From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com 
 [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
  On Behalf Of .net noobie
 Sent: Thursday, 4 November 2010 9:56 PM
 To: ozdotnet@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com
 Subject: [OT] WP7 Handset/device

 Does anyone know where you can buy a WP7 Handset/device outright without a 
 plan?

 Telstra are selling them I think but there price is pretty high and only 
 have 2 phones 
 http://www.lifehacker.com.au/2010/10/telstra-sets-outright-buy-prices-for-windows-phone-7-handsets/

 What do people think about buying a handset from overseas to try and get a 
 better price?
 e.g. ATT are selling phones for 199.99 USD, but I don't know the details 
 as in it this is on some kind of plan or just the handset outright? or if 
 the handset will be locked to ATT etc...

 I like the look of the Samsung Omnia 7 from Optus

 the The HTC Mozart, has a better camera 8 Mega Pixel

 what models do people think is best and why?

 in the US there is a Samsung Focus which people seem to like a lot, is 
 the Samsung Omnia 7 basically the same/Australian version?

 Is there going to be any advantage to getting a phone on a plan, rather 
 then getting a handset and putting in my own Sim card?
 e.g. will the phone company have any extra features I will not get if I 
 just put in my own Sim card?

 these are/seem to be the options for Australian handsets 
 http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-au/buy/7/phones.aspx#mode=all
 as I said above I like the Samsung Omnia 7 so any comments on why I 
 should or should not choose a different model would be great

 thanks noobie

RE: [OT] WP7 Handset/device

[Chris Walsh]

I like the 3.7 screen.  The Omnia 7 is a 4 device.  I just like the smaller 
one, and you can't beat the NextG network for speed.  Optus sucks and 
Voda/Three are hopeless for coverage.

-Original Message-
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of .net noobie
Sent: Thursday, 4 November 2010 10:27 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] WP7 Handset/device

Can I ask why you like the HTC Mozart over the Samsung Omnia 7

is it the 8 MP camera, or other things as well?

On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 9:24 PM, Chris Walsh ch...@walshie.me wrote:
 It's actually 500MB, and you can change that, I managed to get 3GB on 
 the
 $79 plan for an extra $3.





 From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com 
 [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
 On Behalf Of Simon Reed
 Sent: Thursday, 4 November 2010 10:23 PM

 To: ozDotNet
 Subject: Re: [OT] WP7 Handset/device



 Not really with Telstra you only get a pitiful 400mb allowance and I 
 burned through half of that in 3 hours of getting the phone. A lot of 
 that was buying apps setting up accounts and syncing data tho. I have 
 the data turned off except for wifi.

 On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 7:20 PM, .net noobie dotnetnoo...@gmail.com wrote:

 thanks Chris

 does anyone who has used a WP7 have an Idea on the volume of data it 
 uses in general use when it is loading your emails and pics, twitter 
 posts etc

 On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 9:16 PM, .net noobie dotnetnoo...@gmail.com wrote:
 I lost my phone in Sydney airport, I left it on a bench, came back a 
 couple minutes later some prick had already taken it so I been 
 waiting to buy a WP7 phone, but I am not so keen on the 
 planes/contracts to a telco company

 On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 9:10 PM, .net noobie dotnetnoo...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 Chris, so you are suggesting the HTC Mozart, is best model to get?

 On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 9:08 PM, .net noobie dotnetnoo...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 http://www.mobicity.com.au/phone-categories/smartphones/windows/win
 dows-phone.html?order=pricedir=asc

 On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 9:07 PM, Chris Walsh ch...@walshie.me wrote:
 Really depends on what network you're wanting to use it on.  If 
 its Telstra, there are only TWO in the US that use the 850Mhz 3G 
 band, the Samsung Focus   the HTC Surround.

 If it is on Optus, Three or Voda, they use the 2100Mhz  900Mhz 3G 
 bands, so you're pretty much set on 7 out of the 9 launch devices 
 support those bands.

 The REAL device apart from the HTC Mozart is the Dell Venue Pro, 
 but it isn't on the 850Mhz band, but has Gorilla Glass, AMOLED 
 screen, expansive memory  portrait slider.

 -Original Message-
 From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com 
 [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of .net noobie
 Sent: Thursday, 4 November 2010 9:56 PM
 To: ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com
 Subject: [OT] WP7 Handset/device

 Does anyone know where you can buy a WP7 Handset/device outright 
 without a plan?

 Telstra are selling them I think but there price is pretty high 
 and only have 2 phones 
 http://www.lifehacker.com.au/2010/10/telstra-sets-outright-buy-pri
 ces-for-windows-phone-7-handsets/

 What do people think about buying a handset from overseas to try 
 and get a better price?
 e.g. ATT are selling phones for 199.99 USD, but I don't know the 
 details as in it this is on some kind of plan or just the handset 
 outright?
 or if the handset will be locked to ATT etc...

 I like the look of the Samsung Omnia 7 from Optus

 the The HTC Mozart, has a better camera 8 Mega Pixel

 what models do people think is best and why?

 in the US there is a Samsung Focus which people seem to like a 
 lot, is the Samsung Omnia 7 basically the same/Australian version?

 Is there going to be any advantage to getting a phone on a plan, 
 rather then getting a handset and putting in my own Sim card?
 e.g. will the phone company have any extra features I will not get 
 if I just put in my own Sim card?

 these are/seem to be the options for Australian handsets 
 http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-au/buy/7/phones.aspx#mode
 =all as I said above I like the Samsung Omnia 7 so any comments 
 on why I should or should not choose a different model would be 
 great

 thanks noobie

RE: [OT] WP7 Handset/device

[Chris Walsh]

 and Retrievals,
  diversion charges apply.
  4 Unlimited Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, MySpace, eBay  Foursquare:
  Only
  available within Australian and requires compatible handset. Use of
  these
  services is separate and does not count towards your included “Mobile
  Internet Data”. Cannot be used with your Optus Mobile Broadband (OMB) or
  Business Mobile Broadband (BMB) device/s and excludes use of Facebook
  SMS or
  other social media alert services. These features are only available to
  you
  if your handset is compatible with the service. Optus Mobile Fair GoTM
  Policy applies.
 
 
  On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Nick Randolph 
  n...@builttoroam.commailto:n...@builttoroam.com
  wrote:
  Chris, beg to differ on the warranty front -
  http://www.mobicity.com.au/extras/warranty.html
 
  Nick Randolph | Built to Roam | Microsoft MVP - Windows Phone
  Development
  | +61 412 413 425
  The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not
  the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in
  this
  email in any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any
  emails or attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the
  author's
  own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Built To Roam.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com
  [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
  On Behalf Of Chris Walsh
  Sent: Thursday, 4 November 2010 10:16 PM
  To: ozDotNet
  Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Handset/device
 
  I am, but really depends on if you want an Australian warranty etc...
   If
  you purchase it from MobiCity the phones don't have an AU warranty.
 
  I'd suggest getting it outright via Telstra.  Or if you want a plan,
  get
  it on via Telstra, free on a $49 plan, and the phones are unlocked by
  default.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com
  [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
  On Behalf Of .net noobie
  Sent: Thursday, 4 November 2010 10:11 PM
  To: ozDotNet
  Subject: Re: [OT] WP7 Handset/device
 
  Chris, so you are suggesting the HTC Mozart, is best model to get?
 
  On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 9:08 PM, .net noobie 
  dotnetnoo...@gmail.commailto:dotnetnoo...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  http://www.mobicity.com.au/phone-categories/smartphones/windows/window
  s-phone.html?order=pricedir=asc
 
  On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 9:07 PM, Chris Walsh 
  ch...@walshie.memailto:ch...@walshie.me wrote:
  Really depends on what network you're wanting to use it on.  If its
  Telstra, there are only TWO in the US that use the 850Mhz 3G band,
  the
  Samsung Focus   the HTC Surround.
 
  If it is on Optus, Three or Voda, they use the 2100Mhz  900Mhz 3G
  bands, so you're pretty much set on 7 out of the 9 launch devices
  support
  those bands.
 
  The REAL device apart from the HTC Mozart is the Dell Venue Pro, but
  it
  isn't on the 850Mhz band, but has Gorilla Glass, AMOLED screen,
  expansive
  memory  portrait slider.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: 
  ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com
  [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
   On Behalf Of .net noobie
  Sent: Thursday, 4 November 2010 9:56 PM
  To: ozdotnet@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com
  Subject: [OT] WP7 Handset/device
 
  Does anyone know where you can buy a WP7 Handset/device outright
  without
  a plan?
 
  Telstra are selling them I think but there price is pretty high and
  only have 2 phones
  http://www.lifehacker.com.au/2010/10/telstra-sets-outright-buy-prices
  -for-windows-phone-7-handsets/
 
  What do people think about buying a handset from overseas to try and
  get
  a better price?
  e.g. ATT are selling phones for 199.99 USD, but I don't know the
  details as in it this is on some kind of plan or just the handset
  outright?
  or if the handset will be locked to ATT etc...
 
  I like the look of the Samsung Omnia 7 from Optus
 
  the The HTC Mozart, has a better camera 8 Mega Pixel
 
  what models do people think is best and why?
 
  in the US there is a Samsung Focus which people seem to like a lot,
  is
  the Samsung Omnia 7 basically the same/Australian version?
 
  Is there going to be any advantage to getting a phone on a plan,
  rather
  then getting a handset and putting in my own Sim card?
  e.g. will the phone company have any extra features I will not get if
  I
  just put in my own Sim card?
 
  these are/seem to be the options for Australian handsets
  http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-au/buy/7/phones.aspx#mode=al
  l as I said above I like the Samsung Omnia 7 so any comments on why
  I should or should not choose a different model would be great
 
  thanks noobie
 
 
 
 
 

RE: [OT] WP7 Handset/device

[Chris Walsh]

secure shared data doesn't belong on a portable device, that can be a) lost, 
stolen or hacked.

If you want something that is available to use between company apps, then you 
need to have a central repo in the cloud somewhere.  Sure you need to cache 
it locally, but it shouldn't be available for each app, if each app requires 
the same document, then you're doing it wrong. :)

Sure, the phone needs SQL CE, but even then,  it isn't the solution.

People are just used to the Old WinMo days when you've got FULL access.

-Original Message-
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Bill McCarthy
Sent: Friday, 5 November 2010 1:47 PM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Handset/device

Yep I saw  that. I had thought the same too. It was that I was referring to 
when I said hack a bitmap.
It's not really a good solution or a secure one. And like I said, that people 
even consider this is a real sign the phone is too limiting but not having 
shared data.

What I am hoping we will see is the implementation of SQL CE 4 on the phone as 
a shared resource, including a shared data storage that includes blobs/files, 
with permissions. Eg. An app can use a password to share files with other apps 
from the same company. Stores could be by company and/or application, and 
access to would require initial user prompt etc.  It is probably asking a lot, 
but really the phone needs secure shared data.


|-Original Message-
|From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-
|boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of .net noobie
|Sent: Friday, 5 November 2010 1:39 PM
|To: ozDotNet
|Subject: Re: [OT] WP7 Handset/device
|
|Nick Randolph, made a post on his blog i think where he used an image
|to
store
|data, which I you could access from different apps, not really a good
|solution I guess, but maybe OK for some situations
|
|http://nicksnettravels.builttoroam.com/post/2010/09/29/Windows-Phone-7-
|Passing-Data-Between-Applications.aspx
|
|On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Bill McCarthy b...@totalenviro.com
wrote:
|
| Uhm, not really. Isolated storage is good, but doesn't share data
| across apps.  There's various scenarios such as crm's or customer
| service based apps where it is desirable to have small apps that
| share the same core
data
| (rather than try to cram every feature into the one app them
| disabling features depending on the user etc).  And then there's the
| entire lack of shared documents issue (other than photos and videos).
| There's
absolutely
| no way (that I know of) to do what should be standard office kinds
| of tasks like automate the creation of a word document/invoice/quote
| etc,
and
| automatically attach it to an email.  The more and more I try to use
| the phone for business the more I think it is designed for stand
| alone games
etc
| or only for web based applications where you do that processing off
| the phone.
|
| And yes I know you can hack a bitmap to store your data. That that is
even
| thought of, little alone even considered, is sad.
|
|
| |-Original Message-
| |From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-
| |boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Kean
| |Sent: Friday, 5 November 2010 1:16 PM
| |To: ozDotNet
| |Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Handset/device
| |
| |With regards to the last one - does IsolatedStorage work for you?
| |
| |-Original Message-
| |From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-
| |boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Bill McCarthy
| |Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 6:18 PM
| |To: 'ozDotNet'
| |Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Handset/device
| |
| |Yeh there's a few frustrations with the end user SDK.  My list
| |includes,
| (but not
| |limited to) is:
| |- no way to get list of contacts from the phone itself
| |- no support for vcard or ical etc (although this surfaces more in
| |the
user
| |interface not being able to accept or attach vcard to text messages)
| |- no shared data or files
| |
| |I'm hoping for improvements there. The first one is a real killer if
| |you
| want to
| |write any app that deals with people.
| |
| |
| ||-Original Message-
| ||From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-
| ||boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Chris Walsh
| ||Sent: Friday, 5 November 2010 12:01 PM
| ||To: ozDotNet
| ||Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Handset/device
| ||
| ||Yeah, they've been saying it's coming for years.
| ||
| ||Bill,
| ||
| ||For ringtones, the support is in the Silverlight App Model, but
| ||there is no
| |way to
| ||access the Ringtones folder in the end user SDK, it's included in
| ||the
| |Native SDK.
| ||We've got access to the Capability in the WMAppManifest
| ||ID_CAP_RINGTONE_ADD but as I said, you can't access the folder.
| ||
| ||-Original Message-
| ||From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-
| ||boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Price
| ||Sent: Friday, 5 November 2010 11:55 AM
| ||To: ozDotNet
| ||Subject: Re: [OT] WP7 Handset/device

RE: [OT] WP7 Handset/device

[Chris Walsh]

I never said the Office Hub is secure.  If you need a document to be shared 
with apps, that's the place to put it (if we had access).  If you want to 
secure it, then they should use the same secure ISO model they use for 
Silverlight apps in the browser.  There is two ISO stores, one for the app, and 
one for the Site.  They can adapt that paradigm onto the phone for App  
Publisher.

But yes, they've got some work to do :)

-Original Message-
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Bill McCarthy
Sent: Friday, 5 November 2010 3:16 PM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Handset/device

Hi Chris,

|I'm sure they get mobility, but as most of us know the timelines they
were on
|to cut v1.  Sh*t just had to be left out.

That's a completely different argument from what you earlier said: secure 
shared data doesn't belong on a portable device.  On the secure data thing, 
well that's like saying you shouldn't have any contact information or any 
office documents etc.  They are ALL data that needs to be secure.
Today, I think the argument is they are secure by not openly allowing other 
applications to access them.  Jumping to a later email form you, you then
say:
 What we really need is access to the Office hub's documents.  
So really you are talking about secure shared data ;)

I think the real issue is the lack of connectivity with the contacts list.
The list is designed to aggregate information, yet that is not made available.  
Try for example to send a vcard.  The contact list should be available, with 
permission. Without that you have to setup a whole other set of aggregation and 
access somewhere else, and then try to sync those two back. It should be 
straight forward to insert a contact's address, name etc, etc.

Anyway, yes the issue is they left a lot of sh*t out.  I  think the real 
prove'r for WP will be the rate at which they make these kinds of updates 
available.




|-Original Message-
|From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-
|boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Chris Walsh
|Sent: Friday, 5 November 2010 2:13 PM
|To: ozDotNet
|Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Handset/device
|
|Hahaha.
|
|
|
|Slap away, sure, there are offline scenarios BUT, we live in a
|connected
world
|people.  Let's start acting like it :P
|
|
|
|It's hard to communicate between apps when there are no multitasking
|scenarios, socket access blah blah.
|
|
|
|I'm sure they get mobility, but as most of us know the timelines they
were on
|to cut v1.  Sh*t just had to be left out.  Look at SQL CE, it's
|there,
it's on the
|device, there is just no bridge to get access via the end user SDK.
|The
native
|SDK have access to it.
|
|
|
|From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-
|boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Nick Randolph
|Sent: Friday, 5 November 2010 2:02 PM
|To: ozDotNet
|Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Handset/device
|
|
|
|Chris, put your hand out and let me slap it J - I want to be able to
|run
offline
|and I mean totally offline. Having to go through the cloud to
|communicate between applications because MS isn't smart enough to work
|out how to open
a
|channel between apps in a secure way is a sign that they don't get
mobility!
|
|
|
|Don't get me wrong I'm not asking for full access as in the WinMo days
|-
that
|was way to cowboyish. But, MS definitely needs to consider doing
|something similar to (And I'm NOT saying the same) as Android Intents
|
|
|
|Nick Randolph | Built to Roam | Microsoft MVP - Windows Phone
|Development
|| +61 412 413 425
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|-Original Message-
|From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-
|boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Chris Walsh
|Sent: Friday, 5 November 2010 1:55 PM
|To: ozDotNet
|Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Handset/device
|
|
|
|secure shared data doesn't belong on a portable device, that can be
|a)
lost,
|stolen or hacked.
|
|
|
|If you want something that is available to use between company apps,
|then
you
|need to have a central repo in the cloud somewhere.  Sure you need to
cache
|it locally, but it shouldn't be available for each app, if each app
requires the
|same document, then you're doing it wrong. :)
|
|
|
|Sure, the phone needs SQL CE, but even then,  it isn't the solution.
|
|
|
|People are just used to the Old WinMo days when you've got FULL access.
|
|
|
|-Original Message-
|
|From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-
|boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Bill McCarthy
|
|Sent: Friday, 5 November 2010 1:47 PM
|
|To: 'ozDotNet'
|
|Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Handset/device
|
|
|
|Yep I saw  that. I had thought

RE: .NET Developer's Guide to Directory Services Programming

[Chris Walsh]

Yeah the AccountManagement DLL helps you access PrincipalContext  
GroupPrincipal.  Works wonders when you're manipulating a few groups.

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Hitman Hoss
Sent: Thursday, 4 November 2010 10:04 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: .NET Developer's Guide to Directory Services Programming

There were some additions made in .NET 3.5 with 
System.DirectoryServices.AccountManagement.  Makes working with users and 
groups pretty easy.  Check it out to see if it meets your needs.

On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Dylan Tusler 
dylan.tus...@sunshinecoast.qld.gov.aumailto:dylan.tus...@sunshinecoast.qld.gov.au
 wrote:
__
http://www.sunshinecoast.qld.gov.au/
The .NET Developer's Guide to Directory Services 
Programminghttp://www.sunshinecoast.qld.gov.au/
 http://www.sunshinecoast.qld.gov.au/
Some years ago we purchased this book. I've had a look at the book's website, 
and it hasn't been updated since 2007, and the Amazon reviews tail off around 
2008 too.http://www.sunshinecoast.qld.gov.au/
 http://www.sunshinecoast.qld.gov.au/
Just curious to know whether there have been any advances in directory services 
programming since then, or whether the book is still 
relevant.http://www.sunshinecoast.qld.gov.au/
 http://www.sunshinecoast.qld.gov.au/
We are about to commence work on a small project that will involve some complex 
LDAP queries, and wondering whether to use the book as a reference, or bin 
it?http://www.sunshinecoast.qld.gov.au/
 http://www.sunshinecoast.qld.gov.au/
There is a sample chapter from the book available at 
http://www.awprofessional.com/content/images/0321350170/samplechapter/Kaplan_ch10.pdfhttp://www.sunshinecoast.qld.gov.au/
 http://www.sunshinecoast.qld.gov.au/

Dylan Tuslerhttp://www.sunshinecoast.qld.gov.au/

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