Re: Network monitoring

[Iain Carlin]

If you have a Raspberry Pi hanging around, I use mine to monitor my
internet connection using smokeping based on this article:
https://votecharlie.com/blog/2016/04/network-monitoring-with-raspberry-pi-and-smokeping.html.
I decided on the PI as it means I don't need to have a PC turned on all the
time. (As an aside, the Pi also downloads my solar PV data ever 5 minutes
and uploads it to PV output).

You end up with graphs showing latency, and dropouts:

[image: image.png]

On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 at 07:54, Greg Keogh  wrote:

> Folks, my 2 year old NBN connection takes 5 minute breaks multiple times a
> day, every day. The Internet connection randomly dies, the lights on the
> Arris black box go out and slowly come back, then it's going again. Several
> months ago I called Telstra who ran "tests" and declared it would be fixed.
>
> I wrote a tiny command line program that uses the NetworkChange
> NetworkAvailabilityChanged event to log changes, but it doesn't work, no
> events are ever raised even though I can see the modem lights flashing. The 
> class
> documentation
> 
> hints it does what I want, but there must be other adapters like the VMWare
> ones that are ruining my expectations.
>
> Is there some other way of easily monitoring up/down of the NBN
> connection? Event log? Some utility program? Something I can write?
> Something in the modem or switch? Anything?
>
> *Greg K*
>

RE: [Off Topic] Drop Box alternatives with a large number of files (about 0.5M+ files).

[Iain Carlin]

After years of trying Dropbox, Google and OneDrive and not being happy with any 
of them for one reason or another….I finally settled on Mega -> https://mega.nz/

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com  On Behalf 
Of Greg Harris
Sent: Wednesday, 22 May 2019 1:47 PM
To: ozDotNet 
Subject: [Off Topic] Drop Box alternatives with a large number of files (about 
0.5M+ files).

 

Hi All,

Sorry, this is a bit of a long rambling request for advice on using or 
replacing dropbox due to performance reasons with a large number of files 
(about 0.5M+ files).

I used to be a huge supporter of dropbox.  It used to just work and was 
reasonably responsive.  Then it just stopped working for me last year.

I think this may have been around the time when the OS updates were made for 
Spectre and Meltdown Security Flaw.  The drop in effective performance of the 
CPU may have pushed the machine below the capacity to run the software???  

I attempted to get some help from dropbox but that was a huge waste of time.

I have now just got around to looking at alternatives.

The first one I tried was One Drive.  Because I am in a Microsoft setup, One 
Drive was the first logical choice.

My current One Drive setup has 283K files in 105K folders with 70GB in the 
cloud and 27GB on the local machine.  

With One Drive in use, I have noticed the “One Drive Sync Engine” along with 
the “Windows Search Indexer” tasks running all the time, pushing up the CPU 
usage and the fans on the system are running to cool it down (which beforehand 
never happened).  It is somewhat clever enough to know when there is 
interactive use and push the priority of the task down.  But if I go away from 
my desk for a few minutes the task is taking a lot of CPU and the fans are 
running again.

What I am looking for in a dropbox alternative is:

1.   Reasonable performance

2.   Online backup of working files

3.   Reasonable price (yes I will pay for it)

I think that my options are:

1.   https://www.dropbox.com – Should I go back and try again

2.   https://onedrive.live.com/ - Are the problems I am having consistent 
with your experience?

3.   https://www.google.com/drive/

4.   https://www.box.com/

5.   Other

I am running an old Intel Xeon 2.8GHz with 32 GB RAM as the base machine with a 
3 core 10 GB VM inside it as my primary work horse machine.  

It has been clear the Moore’s law has died in the last five years, so I have 
seen no clear and present need to upgrade this machine.  I am thinking that may 
be wrong, do I just need a new machine???

 

Thanks for your help on this :-)

 



Greg Harris


Harris Consulting Group Pty Ltd


g...@harrisconsultinggroup.com  


www.HarrisConsultingGroup.com  


phone: (international) +61 407 942 982


phone: (within Australia) 0407 942 982


Sydney
Australia

 

Re: Trusted cloud based source control system where the code is Australian domicile? [Slightly off topic]

[Iain Carlin]

I've been using Mega for some time now, mainly because I was sick of MS and
Google loosing stuff with their file syncs, but also because I didn't want
my personal stuff stored un-encrypted on US servers.

https://mega.nz/ is based in NZ (out of Donald's reach) you get 50Gb
storage on the free plan and the user holds the encryption key. For the one
project I have using source control, I store the Git repository in a folder
that is synced to Mega in the cloud.

On 22 March 2018 at 15:10, Greg Keogh  wrote:

> https://www.itnews.com.au/news/us-bill-would-allow-cross-
>> border-data-access-demands-484674
>>
>
> I was afraid of this sort of thing, where national boundaries are
> worthless for cloud data protection.
>
> Which version control and cloud storage providers and services encrypt
> data at rest by default? And who has the keys? I've been wondering about
> this for ages, and now it's time to find out more. I mean, I don't care if
> my source and backups are stored on Kremlin servers so long as their
> encryption is implemented correctly and only I have the keys.
>
>
> *Greg K*
>

Re: [OT] CV advice

[Iain Carlin]

Hey Tom,

I've just read through 44 applications for a position. From that, the
advice I would give is that your covering letter for the application is the
most important part. Address the selection criteria in the job advert in
your cover letter clearly demonstrating with examples how you have met
those criteria in past jobs (or even volunteer roles).

For me I look at that first, see if the applicant looks like they can do
the job, then check the CV to see if the experience backs up the claims in
the cover letter.

Oh, and use spell check - a spelling error in the first sentence of an
application sets the tone for the reading that follows :-)

On 6 June 2017 at 10:34, Dave Walker  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> yeah that sounds fine. Remember when you're at that level you're trying to
> give enough evidence that you can do the job that you are applying for.
> There's more 'risk' for a company taking on a junior. Things like your
> github account (with some content!), stackoverflow etc will give more
> evidence to your claims.
>
> I don't mind having a read over your CV if you'd like?
>
> On 6 June 2017 at 12:59, Tom P  wrote:
>
>> Hey folks
>>
>> I'm having some problems finding work and I'm thinking it may be my CV is
>> missing something people look for. Any advice on what a junior-mid
>> developer should include on their CV? Currently I have a list of
>> technologies I have experience with, some qualifications + achievements,
>> employment history and some recent projects I've worked on.
>>
>> Any recommendations would be highly appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Tom
>>
>
>

Re: [OT] Unbelievable ad tracking

[Iain Carlin]

I had a similar experience about 18 months ago involving Kogan (Crookgan)
and Gumtree.

My solution is as follows:

Use Chrome as your browser then install the following plug-ins:

a.   Blur (Do Not Track Me):
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/donottrackme-online-priva/epanfjkfahimkgomnigadpkobaefekcd

b.  IBA Opt Out:
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/iba-opt-out-by-google/gbiekjoijknlhijdjbaadobpkdhmoebb

c.   AdBlock:
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/adblock/gighmmpiobklfepjocnamgkkbiglidom

I have't had a problem since.

Iain

On 21 December 2014 at 10:28, DotNet Dude adotnetd...@gmail.com wrote:

 Do you use Chrome? Do you search while signed into a Google account?

 On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 6:34 PM, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote:

 Folks, a couple of days ago I ran a Google search for a set of
 fine-tipped pens, found them at Officeworks, and went down and bought them
 (as well as some paper and other stuff). This evening I went to this web
 page:


 http://www.myerrorsandmysolutions.com/how-to-install-certificates-file-cer-on-microsoft-windows-phone-based-devices/

 In the middle of the page is a huge ad for the exact same pens that I
 bought. The URL of the ad is (truncated):

 http://www.googleadservices.com/pagead/aclk? [cut] adurl=
 http://www.megaofficesupplies.com.au/pelikan-artline-draw-system-pen-6-nib-sizes-1-2-3-4-5-8-black-wallet-6/%3Fdfw_tracker%3D2252-8735

 I'm really, REALLY pissed off. I hate ads, I hate being tracked, I have a
 tiny set of white-listed cookies, I erase my browsing history every few
 days, and I didn't put anything that could identify me in any web pages in
 the last few days. So how the f***nig hell is this possible?! This is
 insidious, frightening and depressing.

 *Greg K*

Recommendations for ASP.Net MVC book

[Iain Carlin]

Happy New Year all,

I've resisted MVC for too long and have decided to update my knowledge from
ASP.Net forms.

I think the question may have been asked before but I can't find it in the
archives, can anyone recommend a good book on the subject for someone who
already knows ASP.Net pretty well but wants to start dabbling in MVC?

Cheers,

Iain

Re: [OT] Facebook advertising

[Iain Carlin]

There's a little cross in the top left hand of each of the Facebook ads. It
doesn't stop the ads, you just get different ones, but it's fun to say you
don't want an advert for Christmas Cake because it's sexually explicit, or
flowers because you find it offensive :-)


On 2 December 2013 10:37, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote:

 Ken, you may have got a whiff of a hint that I don't like advertising, no
 matter where or why it's in front of me, or what deal put it there. I find
 targeted advertising particularly frightening and objectionable, it's a
 kind of perversion of technology. I have no sympathy for advertisers. The
 world's arteries are so clogged with advertising that no wonder there is a
 new syndrome called Ad Blindness. And I'm not happy to use Facebook's
 services. Facebook is so objectionable that I would cancel it in a blink,
 *except* ... a few music groups I participate in have groups for important
 announcements, so I'm trapped in the hell hole -- Greg K

Re: VS 2013 through proxy

[Iain Carlin]

I thought I would try it with my freshly installed VS2013 in a clean VM.

I had to set the proxy settings in IE then Visual Studio picked them up and
allowed me to check for an updated license once I had successfully browsed
to a page on the web in IE.


On 18 November 2013 18:49, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com wrote:

 Hey all,

 Anyone got VS2013 working through a firewall?

 I just had a nice polite message saying;

 this license will expire in 2147483647 days.

 Your license is getting stale and must be updated in 5 days. blah blah etc

 So my license runs out in the year 588,1628 (I'm probably going to be
 dead...)
 How come I have to update it so often? Won't work through proxy...



 [image: Inline image 1]

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Re: .Net based Email Newsletter

[Iain Carlin]

Thanks for the input.

Both MailChimp and Campaign monitor look good in terms of
functionalitybutI'm not sure that our business is going to be happy
to hand over 5,000 or so 'customer' email addresses to a 3rd party, no
matter how secure they claim to be.

I'm definitely *not looking to build*, so is there an equivalent,
self-hosted, off-the-shelf product that anyone has experience with?

[Note I used 'CRM' in quotes because it's not really a CRM, it's a Student
Information System that just happens to also contain a bunch of email
addresses for people that we regularly send email to].

On 13 June 2013 12:52, Andrew Coates (DPE AUSTRALIA) 
andrew.coa...@microsoft.com wrote:

  + 1 for buy over build

 ** **

 Have a look at Campaign Monitor http://www.campaignmonitor.com/ too.

 ** **

 Cheers

 ** **

 Andrew Coates, ME, MCPD, MCSD MCTS, Developer Evangelist, Microsoft, 1
 Epping Road, NORTH RYDE NSW 2113
 Ph: +61 (2) 9870 2719 ∙ Mob +61 (416) 134 993 ∙ Fax: +61 (2) 9870 2400 ∙
 http://blogs.msdn.com/acoat

 *Sent from the **new Office* http://office.com/preview

 ** **

 *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
 ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *GregAtGregLowDotCom
 *Sent:* Thursday, 13 June 2013 1:06 PM
 *To:* ozDotNet
 *Subject:* RE: .Net based Email Newsletter

 ** **

 Agreed. Mailchimp seems to be the most common one that I receive mail
 from, and from reading it’s info, it looks well managed.

 ** **

 Regards,

 ** **

 Greg

 ** **

 Dr Greg Low

 ** **

 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913fax
 

 SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.com

 ** **

 *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [
 mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Corneliu I. Tusnea
 *Sent:* Thursday, 13 June 2013 12:59 PM
 *To:* ozDotNet
 *Subject:* Re: .Net based Email Newsletter

 ** **

 Why build? Why not use a proper newsletter system? MailChimp or any of the
 other million existing ones?

 They are very good.

 They can also give you some deliverability and open rate reports which can
 tell you if your newsletter have any value or they are simply money spend
 delivering noise.

 They can also handle all the spam, take care of reputation and handle the
 unsubscribe process.

 And I think it's cheaper to use such a service than spend
 days/weeks/months to build it :)

 ** **

 My 2 cents.

 ** **

 On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 10:10 AM, ifum...@gmail.com wrote:

  We used telerik editor to achieve this...and you could use something
 like mailbee to do the bulk email

  

 Anthony

  

 *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
 ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Iain Carlin
 *Sent:* Thursday, 13 June 2013 10:02 AM
 *To:* ozDotNet
 *Subject:* .Net based Email Newsletter

  

 G'day all,

 We're looking for a solution to create a HTML newsletter with images and
 text that can be bulk emailed via SMTP to a list sourced from our 'CRM'.

 We'd prefer something .Net based as that fits with everything else we have.

 Has anyone got any recommendations?

 Cheers,

 Iain

  ** **

.Net based Email Newsletter

[Iain Carlin]

G'day all,

We're looking for a solution to create a HTML newsletter with images and
text that can be bulk emailed via SMTP to a list sourced from our 'CRM'.

We'd prefer something .Net based as that fits with everything else we have.

Has anyone got any recommendations?

Cheers,

Iain

Re: [OT] Office 2010 and windows 8 possible or what will work?

[Iain Carlin]

+1 - Installed Office 2010 last week and working OK (mind you I still can't
get the hang of Windows 8!)

On 18 January 2013 11:12, Preet Sangha preetsan...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes. Have been using it for ages.


 On 18 January 2013 13:41, ifum...@gmail.com wrote:

 Anyone know if office 2010 works on windows 8 or is there a compatible
 version for it?

 ** **

 ** **

 Anthony

 ** **

 ** **




 --
 regards,
 Preet, Overlooking the Ocean, Auckland

Issue with Framework version and default document on classic asp site

[Iain Carlin]

I have an issue with a third-party tool that is deployed as a web site on
our IIS 7 server.

The site is set up to run under an application pool configured for .Net 4.0
in classic mode.

The start page for the site is a classic asp page (not sure why, not my
site). If I browse to the page directly, (http://mysite/index.asp),
everything loads and runs fine.

index.asp is configured as the default document for the site. However when
I browse to http://mysite the asp page loads but all the .Net bits are in
various states of brokenness.

There are errors in the Windows application log that indicate two different
frameworks are being loaded - but everything on this site is using the
single .Net 4.0 application pool.

What is different about loading using the default document vs browsing to
the file directly?

I wonder if perhaps there is a clash between 64 and 32 bit versions of 4.0
somehow.

The vendor is blaming our server, but there are 6 other sites on it, also
using various combinations of asp and .Net (both V2.0 and 4.0 (64 and 32))
and none of those are having any issues.

This has caused me weeks of frustration so any assistance would be
appreciated.

Re: Issue with Framework version and default document on classic asp site

[Iain Carlin]

Hi Stehen, thanks for the suggestion, but they are not two different pages,
that's the problem.

For http://mysite the default document is set to index.asp. It should act
exactly the same hitting http://mysite or http://mysite/index.asp but the
first site gives an error.

On 15 November 2012 11:29, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com wrote:

 Perhaps look at whats being loaded to see the difference. Try pressing F12
 in IE for developer tools, click Network and start capturing button. Load
 the two pages and see if anything differs majorly between the two pages?
 Should show you any 404s.
 Alternatively try the same with Fiddler?


 On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 8:41 AM, Iain Carlin cut...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have an issue with a third-party tool that is deployed as a web site on
 our IIS 7 server.

 The site is set up to run under an application pool configured for .Net
 4.0 in classic mode.

 The start page for the site is a classic asp page (not sure why, not my
 site). If I browse to the page directly, (http://mysite/index.asp),
 everything loads and runs fine.

 index.asp is configured as the default document for the site. However
 when I browse to http://mysite the asp page loads but all the .Net bits
 are in various states of brokenness.

 There are errors in the Windows application log that indicate two
 different frameworks are being loaded - but everything on this site is
 using the single .Net 4.0 application pool.

 What is different about loading using the default document vs browsing to
 the file directly?

 I wonder if perhaps there is a clash between 64 and 32 bit versions of
 4.0 somehow.

 The vendor is blaming our server, but there are 6 other sites on it, also
 using various combinations of asp and .Net (both V2.0 and 4.0 (64 and 32))
 and none of those are having any issues.

 This has caused me weeks of frustration so any assistance would be
 appreciated.

Re: Issue with Framework version and default document on classic asp site

[Iain Carlin]

Well, as per usual, after weeks of searching, 15 minutes after posting to
ozDotNet I stumble across the answer:

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6948669/iis-7-not-serving-default-document



On 15 November 2012 11:55, Iain Carlin cut...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Stehen, thanks for the suggestion, but they are not two different
 pages, that's the problem.

 For http://mysite the default document is set to index.asp. It should act
 exactly the same hitting http://mysite or http://mysite/index.asp but the
 first site gives an error.


 On 15 November 2012 11:29, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.comwrote:

 Perhaps look at whats being loaded to see the difference. Try pressing
 F12 in IE for developer tools, click Network and start capturing button.
 Load the two pages and see if anything differs majorly between the two
 pages?
 Should show you any 404s.
 Alternatively try the same with Fiddler?


 On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 8:41 AM, Iain Carlin cut...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have an issue with a third-party tool that is deployed as a web site
 on our IIS 7 server.

 The site is set up to run under an application pool configured for .Net
 4.0 in classic mode.

 The start page for the site is a classic asp page (not sure why, not my
 site). If I browse to the page directly, (http://mysite/index.asp),
 everything loads and runs fine.

 index.asp is configured as the default document for the site. However
 when I browse to http://mysite the asp page loads but all the .Net bits
 are in various states of brokenness.

 There are errors in the Windows application log that indicate two
 different frameworks are being loaded - but everything on this site is
 using the single .Net 4.0 application pool.

 What is different about loading using the default document vs browsing
 to the file directly?

 I wonder if perhaps there is a clash between 64 and 32 bit versions of
 4.0 somehow.

 The vendor is blaming our server, but there are 6 other sites on it,
 also using various combinations of asp and .Net (both V2.0 and 4.0 (64 and
 32)) and none of those are having any issues.

 This has caused me weeks of frustration so any assistance would be
 appreciated.

Re: Issue with Framework version and default document on classic asp site

[Iain Carlin]

LOL, I would have asked earlier but I was relying on the vendor to find the
answer!

When they suggested this morning that rebuilding the server was the only
solution, it all got beyond a joke and I figured it coudn't be that hard
and set myself to find the answer by hook or by crook.

On 15 November 2012 12:25, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com wrote:

 Everyone knows you always find the answer right after you ask.
 I can't believe it took you so long to ask. ;)



 On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 9:47 AM, Iain Carlin cut...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well, as per usual, after weeks of searching, 15 minutes after posting to
 ozDotNet I stumble across the answer:


 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6948669/iis-7-not-serving-default-document




 On 15 November 2012 11:55, Iain Carlin cut...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Stehen, thanks for the suggestion, but they are not two different
 pages, that's the problem.

 For http://mysite the default document is set to index.asp. It should
 act exactly the same hitting http://mysite or http://mysite/index.aspbut 
 the first site gives an error.


 On 15 November 2012 11:29, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.comwrote:

 Perhaps look at whats being loaded to see the difference. Try pressing
 F12 in IE for developer tools, click Network and start capturing button.
 Load the two pages and see if anything differs majorly between the two
 pages?
 Should show you any 404s.
 Alternatively try the same with Fiddler?


 On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 8:41 AM, Iain Carlin cut...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have an issue with a third-party tool that is deployed as a web site
 on our IIS 7 server.

 The site is set up to run under an application pool configured for
 .Net 4.0 in classic mode.

 The start page for the site is a classic asp page (not sure why, not
 my site). If I browse to the page directly, (http://mysite/index.asp),
 everything loads and runs fine.

 index.asp is configured as the default document for the site. However
 when I browse to http://mysite the asp page loads but all the .Net
 bits are in various states of brokenness.

 There are errors in the Windows application log that indicate two
 different frameworks are being loaded - but everything on this site is
 using the single .Net 4.0 application pool.

 What is different about loading using the default document vs browsing
 to the file directly?

 I wonder if perhaps there is a clash between 64 and 32 bit versions of
 4.0 somehow.

 The vendor is blaming our server, but there are 6 other sites on it,
 also using various combinations of asp and .Net (both V2.0 and 4.0 (64 and
 32)) and none of those are having any issues.

 This has caused me weeks of frustration so any assistance would be
 appreciated.

Re: SQL reports falling asleep on the job

[Iain Carlin]

We have the same issue, it is because the .Net worker process is being
recycled, then the first call to the report needs to spin up the process
and the Reporting Services libraries into memory.

To make the user experience better, I created a small executable that calls
a report via HTTP and set the exe to be run twice a day using Task
Scheduler. That way the users never have to wait for the spin up time.
(Actually the same exe also calls a number of other web applications too to
wake them up each morning before the users all get in to work).

Of cource, there may be a better way.

On 25 June 2012 09:22, Stuart Kinnear stu...@skproactive.com wrote:

 One of the most irritating things about SQL  reports is that it falls
 asleep every now and again. The user experience is not pleasant and
 resultant calls to technical support or worse still loss of end-user
 customers.

 I have tried altering rsreportserver.config setting the ProcessTimeout to
 a figure of 3 but that did not seem to do anything. Is there limit on
 this number or even better and infinite value ?

 Once up and running SQL reports works OK, not sparkling - I swear the old
 FoxPro reports  even dare I say it Access ran rings round it, but this
 falling asleep on the job is giving me the real gyp.

 --

 -
 Stuart Kinnear
 Mobile: 040 704 5686.   Office: 03 9589 6502

 SK Pro-Active! Pty Ltd
 acn. 81 072 778 262
 PO Box 6117 Cromer, Vic 3193. Australia

 Business software developers.
 SQL Server, Visual Basic, C# , Asp.Net, Microsoft Office.

 -

Re: [OT] It's not Friday, but I've had a tough last 3 weeks ...

[Iain Carlin]

Love it...is it Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday...etc. LOL.

Agree with the idea of playing them along. I did similar to this guy, I
have 5 computers, which one is faulty. Spun the guy on for about 5 minutes
before he comes back with Ah, you are some sort of smart***. Bet you are
jack of all trades and master of none. At that point I lost it with him
and my kids heard some new words :-) Felt kind of relaxing to scream some
choice language down the phone at some Indian clown.

On 6 June 2012 21:18, Les Hughes l...@datarev.com.au wrote:

 Ian Thomas wrote:


 I’ve had several calls like this in the last couple of years (and my wife
 had one just yesterday), but this overseas call from an (Indian-accepted)
 “Computer Maintenance Department” was spun out to 7 minutes by one of the
 SMBIT guys who received it today. It lightened my mood considerably

 Put all your computers in your … http://www.youtube.com/watch?**
 v=Ht51A_AbHOYfeature=youtu.behttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ht51A_AbHOYfeature=youtu.be
 **


 Received a call today from Computer Maintenance Department trying to
 tell me my computer was faulty and I needed to give them access to fix it
 it for me. Decided to have a bit of fun. The ending was unexpected and
 hilarious.

 --**--**
 


 Ian Thomas
 Victoria Park, Western Australia


 LOL.

 Some people hang up on them when they make the call, I'd recommend
 everyone playing a game of how long can I keep you on the phone. If
 everyone who wised on to them tied up their time, it would work somewhat
 like a scammer-DDOS.

 Something else worth doing: if you are being phished via email, check that
 the URL has no identifying details (so they know it came from your email
 address) and fill out the form with fake info. If everyone filled out BS in
 those forms, it would once again eat up the time of these people, and
 perhaps help the banks see suspect logins when there are several failures
 on non-existent accounts from a certain IP address/range.

 http://www.419eater.com/ is a website where the scammer gets scammed.
 Somewhat amusing if you have the time to take a look.
 --
 Les Hughes
 l...@datarev.com.au

Re: log4net sample

[Iain Carlin]

I have also recently started playing with log4net.

One thing that has tripped me up a couple of times now is that there needs
to be an entry in the assembyinfo.cs file. If your're using an xml config
file it needs to look like:

[assembly: log4net.Config.XmlConfigurator(ConfigFile =
Log4net.config, Watch = true)]



On 18 March 2012 19:04, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote:

 Does anyone here use log4net? I used it several years ago but found it to
 be huge overkill because all I ever wanted to do was write everything to
 rolling files. I eventually wrote my own lightweight ‘RollingFile’ class
 and have used it for years. Now my logging needs have become a bit more
 complicated and I see that the latest log4net has expanded greatly to have
 all sorts of fancy appenders and filters. I quite like the idea that I can
 send severe error messages via email and boring stuff to a database (or
 lots of other interesting combinations like UDP and the event log).

 ** **

 I’ve spent some spare time over the last few days trying to get the
 simplest example of writing to the TraceAppender or ConsoleAppender, but no
 matter what I do with config files and code I get no output. I have pasted
 lines out of dozens of examples and web searched until my eyes bleed
 without hope. Stepping deep inside tells me that the library “is not
 configured” and it does nothing.

 ** **

 Could any kind person give me a minimal example of some code and a config
 file that writes “Hello” to a TraceAppender so it appears in the output
 window of VS2010? I am utterly stumped and at wits end.

 ** **

 Thanks, Greg

Re: New look of Visual Studio, what are your thoughts?

[Iain Carlin]

YUK!

If I wanted to look at a black and white screen all day I would buy a black
and white monitor...what craziness is this? Have Microsoft employed some UI
designers from Apple or something. Leave the icons in colour, monochrome is
just going to make my already difficult job even harder.


On 24 February 2012 17:56, djones...@gmail.com wrote:

 Seconded on different versions thing.

 Switching between 2010 and 2008 little changes in menus really slow me
 down.
 Doing of classname in 2010 with the auto complete is very very annoying.

 (4.0, vsto projects and the frankinapp that's been converted from
 vs,2003,2005,2008)

 Davy .02€
 Hexed into a portable ouija board.
 --
 *From: * David Kean david.k...@microsoft.com
 *Sender: * ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com
 *Date: *Fri, 24 Feb 2012 05:58:26 +
 *To: *ozDotNetozdotnet@ozdotnet.com
 *ReplyTo: * ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com
 *Subject: *RE: New look of Visual Studio, what are your thoughts?

  Thanks for the feedback. On the three different versions things, why are
 you using three? What you building that still requires 2005/2008?

 ** **

 *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
 ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *mike smith
 *Sent:* Thursday, February 23, 2012 9:35 PM
 *To:* ozDotNet
 *Subject:* Re: New look of Visual Studio, what are your thoughts?

 ** **

 On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 4:15 PM, David Kean david.k...@microsoft.com
 wrote:
  We showed off the new look today: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/visualstudio/
 
 
 
  Thoughts?

 I agree, somewhat, about the colour, but feel you've gone too far towards
 monochrome.  And if you make me learn a new set of damned icons, I won't
 use the bloody thing.  This is one thing I wish Microsoft would stop
 tinkering with.  Icons, menu layouts, dialog layouts.   Some of us don't
 move on completely from one version to another, but use 3 different
 versions of VS.  Do you have any idea how painful this is?

 [image: Description: Pictographic icons from VS 2010 on the top row with
 the equivalent VS 11 glyphs on the bottom row] 

 ** **

 Take the comment/uncomment icons. WTF are they meant to represent?

 ** **

 /rant

 ** **



 --
 Meski

  http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv

 Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure,
 you'll get it, but it's going to be rough - Adam Hills

image001.png

Re: Keyboard Mouse Ergonomics + Qwerty/Dvorak/Colemak

[Iain Carlin]

+1 for changing hands. I learned to be 'mousebidextrous' years ago due to
pain in my right arm/shoulder.

I now use my left hand at work and my right hand at home. Hardly ever
experience any pain and it's great to confuse your co-workers when they say
Didn't kno you were left handed?

On 7 July 2011 06:03, noonie neale.n...@gmail.com wrote:

 Totally unsubstantiated opinion...

 Faster keyboard = more clicks per minute  more chance of repetitive
 strain.

 Years ago I learned to mouse with my off hand. Took about a week. Just
 think left button/right button instead of index finger/middle finger
 and you're golden.

 Changing hands made the pain go away.
  On Jul 6, 2011 9:53 PM, Les Hughes l...@datarev.com.au wrote:
 
  Hey All,
 
  This is kind of long (eeep), but here goes:
 
  Lately I've have been getting a little tense in my mid-right back area
  and right wrist which I believe is been caused by a lot of the mouse
  work I've been doing over the past few weeks in which my right arm is
  constantly extended out around 30-40 centimetres from the home position
  on the keyboard.
 
  I thought here would be a good place to ask for advice in how everyone
  else, whom, like me, spends upwards of 60 hours per week behind their
  battlestations. (check: http://www.reddit.com/r/battlestations for info
  on 'battlestations')
 
  The main areas I am currently looking at are Keyboards, Mice, and
  Keyboard Layouts.
 
 
  Keyboards
  -
  I currently use a Microsoft Ergonomic 4000 Keyboard (
 
 http://www.microsoft.com/australia/hardware/mouseandkeyboard/images/products/nek4k/mk_productdetails_nek4k.jpg
  ) and am starting to think that the space between the right control key
  (below the right shift and enter keys) where the arrow buttons and
  numeric pad are just get in the way.
 
  So far I am thinking about moving to a smaller keyboard to limit the
  space I need to move for the mouse, ideas so far are the
 
  - Truly Ergonomic keyboard @
  http://www.trulyergonomic.com/images/Truly_Ergonomic_Keyboard.jpg 
  http://www.trulyergonomic.com )
 
  - Kinesis Freestlye VIP @
  http://www.kinesis-ergo.com/images/freestyle-vip_648x339.jpg -
  http://www.kinesis-ergo.com
 
 
  Mouses - mice, mices :P
  -
  I am leaning towards a trackball, but have also considered something
  more vertical:
 
  - Kensington Expert Trackball @
 
 http://www.smartmadesimple.com.au/Products/images/Zoom/z64325%20Expert%20Mouse.jpg
  (favourite so far)
 
  - Logitec M570 @
 
 http://www.logitech.com/assets/32954/4/logitech-wireless-trackball-m570.png
 
  - EZ Vertical Mouse @
 http://www.auzspec.com.au/media/274270427lMSEZ1L.jpg
 
 
  Keyboard Layouts
  -
  Perhaps a religious battle, but:
 
  I was thinking if I am going to go along the whole self improvement
  route with better devices, why not visit my keyboard layouts? Most of us
  use QWERTY: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QWERTY
 
  Much of my reading seems to point towards qwerty being a terrible
  layout, and something that should have died with the typewriter (it's
  keylayout is meant to slow you down, and has more to do with stopping
  those thingies on the typewriter from getting stuck together... those
  who have used typewriters will know what I mean)
 
  Besides QWERTY, there are a few others that seem to be gaining traction,
  they are:
 
  DVORAK: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_layout#Dvorak
 
  Colemak: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_layout#Colemak
 
  Colemak so far looks the most appealing to me if I were to change,
  http://colemak.com/ has a good explanation of the keyboard, but seems to

  be down right now :/
 
 
  The questions:
  -
 
  - Has anyone gone down the ergonomic path, and what did end up doing?
 
  - Are there any recommended keyboard/mouse combinations that you think
  are worthwhile?
 
  - Does anyone think a smaller kayboard is better development with a
  numeric pad on the left or a USB external one?
 
  - Trackballs: yay or nay?
 
  - Has anyone changed their keyboard layout, and if so, would you
  recommend it?
 
  -
 
  Hopefully this isn't too early for the week (not friday), but I'd be
  really interested in any feedback anyone has.
 
  Thanks heaps :)
  --
  Les Hughes
  l...@datarev.com.au

Re: [OT] Why IE9 64-bit?

[Iain Carlin]

On the subject of browsers, have a look at this video:

http://www.winrumors.com/man-upgrades-internet-explorer-1-0-to-9-0-video/redir.aspx?C=d939bdf80e904a93b32778a3c949a48aURL=http%3a%2f%2fwww.winrumors.com%2fman-upgrades-internet-explorer-1-0-to-9-0-video%2f.
[Take a close look at the search he does at about 8:04. No wonder the
flatmate was ‘reluctant’!]

If you have a further 10 minutes try:

http://www.winrumors.com/man-upgrades-windows-1-0-to-windows-7-via-every-other-windows-versions/redir.aspx?C=d939bdf80e904a93b32778a3c949a48aURL=http%3a%2f%2fwww.winrumors.com%2fman-upgrades-windows-1-0-to-windows-7-via-every-other-windows-versions%2f




 Someone has way too much time on their hands but very interesting to
watch.,


redir.aspx?C=d939bdf80e904a93b32778a3c949a48aURL=http%3a%2f%2fwww.winrumors.com%2fman-upgrades-internet-explorer-1-0-to-9-0-video%2f


On 24 March 2011 18:54, Jorke Odolphi jor...@microsoft.com wrote:

  That’s an easy answer.. for all those websites that use more than 3GB of
 your systems RAM.. J



 *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
 ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Ian Thomas
 *Sent:* Thursday, 24 March 2011 5:09 PM
 *To:* 'ozDotNet'
 *Subject:* [OT] Why IE9 64-bit?



 A Q for Friday. Why would anyone want a 64-bit browser?

 I’m quite content with IE9, and installed the beta some time ago.
 Firefox-Opera-CHROME don’t interest me now that IE handles MHT file save and
 load better, and I’m inclined to agree with David Connors that browsers
 became ho-hum a long time ago (well, that’s my extension of his remarks
 about IE and Netscape).

 Just installed the final IE9 release, and the “beautiful” (ugh) website
 detected my 64-bit CPU (I assume) so I downloaded the installer stub and
 completed the install for the 64-bit version, but I was reminded by that
 that both 32-bit and 64-bit versions are available/installed (for all the
 IE9 releases I have tried).

 afaik 32-bit is loaded by default by Windows 7, and I can’t see that a user
 would gain from running the 64-bit version when all 32-bit apps that don’t
 use / address more RAM function fine with Win7.

 Anyone?

 

 Ian Thomas

 Victoria Park, Western Australia

Re: [OT] Ticketing System

[Iain Carlin]

http://www.versasrshelpdesk.com/default.aspx is one I have used in a past
life. Web (.Net) application but great gui and flexible.

On 24 January 2011 16:41, Hemal Modi he...@lawcentral.com.au wrote:

 Hi,

 I am currently looking for a good ticketing system for IT helpdesk support.
 Is there something you are impressed with which is cost-effective as well
 easy to manage?

 Thanks,
 Hemal

Re: Developer PC spec

[Iain Carlin]

+1 for Dell service.

Had a laptop HDD fail, one call and they organised to come and replace it. I
took the machine in to work as they said they would come there to fix it,
but then never turned up.

Guy rang me at 5pm and arranged to come out to my house at 8pm that night
and replace it there.

Most impressed by that.

On 25 January 2011 12:59, Leah Garrett leah.garr...@dfine.com.au wrote:

  Thanks for the spec and the background with the choices. Will help when I
 submit the quote.



 I have had good experience with Dell when dealing with them in previous
 jobs. They seem like a good choice.



 Thanks for all the tips!







 *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
 ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Corneliu I. Tusnea
 *Sent:* Tuesday, 25 January 2011 12:49 PM

 *To:* ozDotNet
 *Subject:* Re: Developer PC spec



 I have priced a desktop for 10 years but as general rules:

- Go 8Gb ram (at least)
- W7 x64 (don't even consider x32 anymore)
- 120Gb+ SSD as your primary drive. Make sure you never hit 50% disk
space usage as performance slowly drops.
- Secondary HDD 7200rpm or 10.000rpm. Don't touch rust @5400rpm as it's
as good as dead.
- Create a 1Gb RAM Drive (free with http://www.dataram.com/ software).
Move all your temp folders, compilation and asp.net temp files in there
- Have your VMs on the separate HDD

 Corneliu.



 PS I'd go for Dells. And get the 3 year next day on site support. They
 rock and when they don't they get fixed quickly.





 On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Bill McCarthy 
 bill.mccarthy.li...@live.com.au wrote:

 Win 7 x64.
 BTW: It's interesting to note that some motherboard manufacturers such as
 ASUS, consider x86 as good as dead. For example some of the new ASUS mb's
 come with uEFI instead of classic bios, and it's all 64 bit and they only
 list 64 bit OS's as supported. Of course as developers, given how cheap RAM
 is we all want to be running x64 anyway to get past that 4GB limit.



 |-Original Message-
 |From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-

 |boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Leah Garrett
 |Sent: Monday, 24 January 2011 12:19 PM
 |To: 'ozDotNet'
 |Subject: RE: Developer PC spec
 |
 |SSD drive as primary drive sounds like a great idea!
 |
 |From what I have read, it would definitely give the dramatic improvement I
 am
 |looking for with this new PC.
 |
 |
 |
 |Which OS do you suggest?
 |
 |
 |
 |
 |-Original Message-
 |From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-
 |boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Bill McCarthy
 |Sent: Monday, 24 January 2011 12:09 PM
 |To: 'ozDotNet'
 |Subject: RE: Developer PC spec
 |
 |Absolutely !!  Load times are significantly better. Just bought a new OZX
 drive
 |the other day (mainly for VM's)
 |
 ||-Original Message-
 ||From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-
 ||boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Price
 ||Sent: Monday, 24 January 2011 12:04 PM
 ||To: ozDotNet
 ||Subject: Re: Developer PC spec
 ||
 ||Are people going with SSD hard drives for their desktop machines these
 days?
 ||(not just laptop drives)
 ||
 ||
 ||On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 8:32 AM, Wallace Turner w.tur...@fex.com.au
 ||wrote:
 ||
 ||
 ||  This is my summary from msinfo32. I upgraded by buying just the
 ||cpu/ram/mboard. This cost $800 about 6 months ago.
 ||  Insist on an SSD for your primary (OS) drive.
 ||
 ||
 ||
 ||
 ||
 ||  On 24/01/2011 8:22 AM, Leah Garrett wrote:
 ||
 ||
 ||
 ||  Has anyone spec’ed out a new developer PC recently? Or got
 any
 ||advice?
 ||
 ||
 ||
 ||  We have a new IT team so I am now able to upgrade my PC! I
 ||will also be getting an MSDN subscription and will be able to choose my
 OS.
 ||
 ||
 ||
 ||
 ||
 ||  Current setup is Windows XP on an older PC. I develop web
 sites
 ||that run on Windows 2003 server. On my desktop I usually run
 ||
 ||  · Visual Studio 2008 Express Edition
 ||
 ||  · SQL Server Management Studio
 ||
 ||  · Paint .Net (although I would also install Adobe
 Creative
 ||Suite on the new machine)
 ||
 ||  · Remote Desktop to development server always open
 and
 ||to live server occasionally
 ||
 ||  · Multiple browsers with dev tools installed
 ||
 ||  · Microsoft Virtual PC for cross browser testing
 ||
 ||
 ||
 ||  My preference would be to have a specification that would a
 ||significant upgrade without scaring the guy who has to authorize the
 purchase
 ||(he has not told me how much I can spend).
 ||
 ||
 ||
 ||
 ||
 ||  Cheers,
 ||  8-)
 ||
 ||  Leah Garrett
 ||
 ||  Web Developer
 ||
 ||
 ||
 ||  D'FINE/CREATIVE:-D
 ||
 ||  42-44 Stephenson Street Richmond VIC 3121
 ||
 ||  Phone: (03) 8561 7474  Direct: (03) 8561 7472
 ||
 ||   

Re: Spreading Excel on a Web Page

[Iain Carlin]

I've written a whole application based around a similar concept.

I used Office Web Components (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_Web_Components). At the back end the
spreadsheets were saved as XML into a SQL database, but you can also save
them to the file system.

Office Web Components are installed by default with all versions up to 2003,
otherwise it's a downloadable from Microsoft for later versions.

One problem I came across of late is that OWC is not supported in 64bit IE8.
In that case you need to use Excel Web Services which are part of Sharepoint
as David has already pointed out.

Cheers,

Iain Carlin

On 11 June 2010 13:11, Michael Minutillo michael.minuti...@gmail.comwrote:

 Sweet. Control vendors FTW
 http://www.infragistics.com/dotnet/netadvantage/silverlight/infragistics-excel.aspx#Overview


 http://www.infragistics.com/dotnet/netadvantage/silverlight/infragistics-excel.aspx#OverviewOr
 the free (incredibly cut down) equivalent:
 http://sithiro.wordpress.com/2009/01/31/calclight-the-under-10kb-silverlight-spreadsheet/


 http://sithiro.wordpress.com/2009/01/31/calclight-the-under-10kb-silverlight-spreadsheet/

 On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Michael Minutillo 
 michael.minuti...@gmail.com wrote:

 I you are using SharePoint:
 http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms546696.aspx

 http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms546696.aspxIf your users are
 all on an IE SOE then host Excel itself in the browser (I've never tried but
 I imagine it's possible).

 Otherwise cry because there are hundreds of man years of effort that have
 gone into developing Excel and replicating it for a single project seems
 incredibly hard.


 On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Arjang Assadi 
 arjang.ass...@gmail.comwrote:

 For reasons far beyound my control I am to publish an excel page on a
 website, allow modification and saving of it on the web server. I will
 not bother you with what I see to be wrong with this approach, but
 I'll rather apeal to you to suggest ways of doing this ( think of
 answers you would give to somone who asks how to shoot themselves in
 the foot).

 Kind Regards

 Arjang




 --
 Michael M. Minutillo
 Indiscriminate Information Sponge
 Blog: http://wolfbyte-net.blogspot.com




 --
 Michael M. Minutillo
 Indiscriminate Information Sponge
 Blog: http://wolfbyte-net.blogspot.com

Re: Spreading Excel on a Web Page

[Iain Carlin]

On 11 June 2010 13:24, David Connors da...@codify.com wrote:

 On 11 June 2010 13:48, Iain Carlin cut...@gmail.com wrote:

 One problem I came across of late is that OWC is not supported in 64bit
 IE8. In that case you need to use Excel Web Services which are part of
 Sharepoint as David has already pointed out.


 I was actually referring to this:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_Web_Apps

 Also, there is an OLEDB provider for Excel that we've used. It should let
 you write to it pretty easily but you might be out of luck for Excel
 specific stuff like creating new sheets etc.


Sorry, I wasn't aware that Windows Live Office had been released this week
(7th June). It was previously only in Beta hence my reference to Sharepoint.
That would be the option if you are happy to store the data in the cloud.

If you want to host Office Web Services on-site they I believe you will need
Sharepoint 2010.

ADWS (Active Directory Web Services)

[Iain Carlin]

Hi Folks,

ADWS (Active Directory Web Services) is available in 2008 R2.

I am wondering whether it can be used as a means to interrogate/update AD
from a .Net application (i.e. by adding a web reference to the service)?

I can't find any examples of using it other than with Powershell.

Cheers,

Iain

Note: I'm aware that I can use the System.DirectoryServices namespace - I'm
specifically interested in whether ADWS will do what I want out of the box
before I go building my own web service to do the same thing.

Re: Code Ownership WAS: RE: .NET Obfuscator Software..free!

[Iain Carlin]

On 4 June 2010 09:18, Arjang Assadi arjang.ass...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thank you Dylan,

 Simon, I don't understand the code for the work done for a specific
 customer(s), can be a gold mine. I am not sure what owning the code
 means, anyone and everyone (competent programmer) can reproduce the
 same effect with some variation.

 Kind Regards

 Arjang


Because if the system is complex enough the customer is locked in to you for
support and enhancements.

We have a system where I work that was developed by a contractor and
enhanced over the years by the same contractor (who was assigned the IP
rights by my employer - bad mistake on their part).

To 'reproduce' the code would take months of work at great cost for us. It
is cheaper just to pay him for minor enhancements, even though his hourly
rate is exorbitant.

For him it's a gold mine.

Re: Code Ownership WAS: RE: .NET Obfuscator Software..free!

[Iain Carlin]

Yes, it's around the $200 per hour.

I guess it's all relative. I know that, given the source code, I could make
the changes just as quickly as the contractor.

My hourly rate is nothing like the $ he charges, and we wouldn't have to
wait for his availablility to make the changes. So in terms of turn-around
and cost we would be better off.

On 4 June 2010 10:05, Liam McLennan l...@eclipsewebsolutions.com.au wrote:

 Hi Iain,

 Curious what you are classing as exorbitant. Are we talking  $200?

 On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Iain Carlin cut...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 4 June 2010 09:18, Arjang Assadi arjang.ass...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thank you Dylan,

 Simon, I don't understand the code for the work done for a specific
 customer(s), can be a gold mine. I am not sure what owning the code
 means, anyone and everyone (competent programmer) can reproduce the
 same effect with some variation.

 Kind Regards

 Arjang


 Because if the system is complex enough the customer is locked in to you
 for support and enhancements.

 We have a system where I work that was developed by a contractor and
 enhanced over the years by the same contractor (who was assigned the IP
 rights by my employer - bad mistake on their part).

 To 'reproduce' the code would take months of work at great cost for us. It
 is cheaper just to pay him for minor enhancements, even though his hourly
 rate is exorbitant.

 For him it's a gold mine.




 --
 Liam McLennan.

 l...@eclipsewebsolutions.com.au
 http://www.eclipsewebsolutions.com.au

Re: .NET Obfuscator Software..free!

[Iain Carlin]

Which is where escrow agreements come in in the software world.

In my previous job as a contractor, we had an escrow agreement with our
customers. Source code was held in escrow by a third party. If we went out
of business they handed over the source.

That protected both the customer and the supplier.

On 4 June 2010 13:04, Michael Minutillo michael.minuti...@gmail.com wrote:

 If I buy a car that was built by a couple of guys at the local garage I'd
 like to know I could take it to a different mechanic when they go out of
 business or raise their prices.

 On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Anthony asale...@tpg.com.au wrote:

 Well i treat software like a car.  When you buy a car they don't give you
 the blueprints...

 Client always gets what they pay for..which is usually a function piece of
 software(code not always included) that helps them run their business...

 -Original Message-
 From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com
 ]
 On Behalf Of Arjang Assadi
 Sent: Friday, 4 June 2010 8:38 AM
 To: ozDotNet
 Subject: Re: .NET Obfuscator Software..free!

 Hi Anthony,

 Please forgive my ignorance but my question is what is normal
 practice? What is meant by work? When quoting hourly rate, I assume
 that at the end they would get everything and since I have been paid
 for the time to produce it, it belongs to them.

 Kind Regards

 Arjang


 On 3 June 2010 20:11, Anthony asale...@tpg.com.au wrote:
  I assume that if the client doesn’t ask for the code then i don’t give
 it
  out.  I would increase my fee if they want the code anyway
 
 
 
  From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
 ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
  On Behalf Of Michael Minutillo
  Sent: Thursday, 3 June 2010 3:07 PM
  To: ozDotNet
 
  Subject: Re: .NET Obfuscator Software..free!
 
 
 
  Well most clients I have dealt with in the past end up with the source
 code.
 
 
 
  After all, clients have been accepting obfuscated code since time
  immemorial already! (Well, at least since the 1980s.) That's what
 compiled
  code is! Unless you wanted to reverse engineer to assembly language,
 pretty
  much everything was obfuscated.
 
 
 
  In the form of a product that is true. But if that were the case I would
  expect the OP would have wanted to obfuscate the entire solution. As
 there
  is a single binary to be obfuscated (and it gets used a lot) it sounds
 more
  likely that it is being used in custom software that is developed for a
  single client. For the client:
 
 
 
  If they purchase a library then they get a support contract so if things
 go
  wrong they get fixed
 
  If they use an open source library then they get the code so they can
 fix
  issues or pass them on to someone to fix.
 
  If the developer hands them a library which is neither they could be in
  trouble.
 
 
 
  If you are selling a product with support then this is OK because you
 have
  an agreement with the client that you'll fix anything that goes wrong.
 If
  you were to have a falling out with the client over an invoice or
 something
  (it happens) then they effectively have a piece of software that only
 you
  (someone they no longer wish to do business with) can maintain.
 
 
 
  As a client I would consider that an unacceptable risk.
 
 
 
  On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Dylan Tusler
  dylan.tus...@sunshinecoast.qld.gov.au wrote:
 
  That is potentially a pretty dangerous risk for a client to accept
 isn't
  it? Unless it contains some kind of proprietary algorithm or something
 I'm
  not sure it's a great idea.
 
 
 
  That's a pretty weird point of view.
 
 
 
  After all, clients have been accepting obfuscated code since time
  immemorial already! (Well, at least since the 1980s.) That's what
 compiled
  code is! Unless you wanted to reverse engineer to assembly language,
 pretty
  much everything was obfuscated.
 
 
 
  Dylan.
 
 
 
 
 
 

 
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.Net Developer position available in Adelaide

[Iain Carlin]

Hi All,

My employer is looking for .Net analyst/programmer.

Most of our work centres around web applications using SQL, ASP.Net and
VB.Net.

It's a permanent position based at the southern side of Adelaide CBD.

Please email me off list if you are interested.

Cheers,

Iain Carlin