Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwives in Lennox Head?
Hi Julia, There are a few of us around the Byron Bay area who would be happy to assist your relative. She could pop along to the Byron Bay Pregnancy Support Group which meets every Wednesday at the Community Centre, Jonson Street, Byron Bay. From 10.15 -11.30 there is bodywork of some description - either yoga or belly dancing or singing or meditation, followed by morning tea and then a discussion from 11.45 - 1.00pm. Cost is $10. She'll meet midwives, doulas .. lots of helpers who support at home and in hospitals. If the group isn't possible, I suggest she contacts Penny Mason on 02 6687 1625 or Heli Murray on 02 6685 6523. Hope this helps, Sue Goodafternoon, Hi to everyone, I'm not a midwife, but was hoping that I could seek some information from the list. My name is Julia Sillitoe from Kempsey NSW. I have a relative living in Lennox Head (near Ballina, Byron Bay). She is about 12 weeks pregnant and would like to find out whether there are any midwives working in her area that she could make contact with. She isn't keen on a homebirth, but would like to have someone with whom she can have her Antenatal care and possibly have at the hospital with her. If anyone works in that area, or knows of anyone who does, I would really appreciate some contact details that I could pass on to her. This is her first baby and understandably she is a little nervous about the whole thing. I thank you for you advice. Warmest Regards Julia (who one day dearly wants to be a BMid - if it ever comes to Southern Cross Uni)!!! -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] newbie after some help :)
Hi Holly Welcome to the list and the world of study! If you haven't found this book yet, you may find it helpful 'Understanding Pain and its Relief in Labour' by Sue Moore. It is not just about pain relief - there are chapters on the physiology of pain, psychology of pain and defining pain. It's quite an interesting read and I've referred to it a number of times throughout my studies/placements. Cheers Tania 3rd year BMid (UniSA) - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 2:15 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] newbie after some help :) Hi everyone, I've been reading everyones posts with great interest over the last few weeks and I have to say that everyone has such a great amount of knowledge combined it's fantastic and inspirational! I'll take a moment to introduce myself. My name is Holly I'm a first year bmid student at uts in nsw. This is the first year nsw has run the course and I am one of only 29! We all feel very honoured to have been chosen to do this course but overwhelmed and a bit scared!! I have four children who keep me very busy, but a fantastic husband and a very flexible nanny who have been my lifeline in the first four weeks (only 3 years to go! yipee!!) So my question is : I'm doing a critical reflection on an incident i observed in delivery 2 wks ago. I'm after articles etc that are about fear of pain in labour which can lead to ineffective pushing. Also relevant would be articles on how the pain of labour/childbirth can lead to delayed bonding between mother and baby. Pardon me if I use incorrect language in my descriptions (i'm struggling with the politically correct stuff). I'm also interested in knowing if Royal Hospital in Brisbane will look at employing bmids in 3 yrs time? I think someone on here is from that hospital? Thanks for you time and help in advance. ps - I have searched [EMAIL PROTECTED] with limited success -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] Sacred birthing talk and workshop...
There will be a workshop and talk by a midwife and 'past life and birthing therapist' Sunni Karll from Hawaii in Adelaide on 15th April 2005 and workshop on the weekend of the 16th and 17th. She is the author of Sacred Birthing, A New Humanity. Anyone interested can email me and I'll mail the attachment with details and prices etc. Cheers Tania PS Is there anyone from the Homebirth network in Melbourne or any birthing support groups that would like the document to circulate to members?
Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery program attracts Fed Government support and funding
Congratualtions Tracy One of my educators told me of this program and I thought it was FANTASTIC! Well done on the achievement Katrina :-) On 27/03/2005, at 10:56 AM, Tracy Smith wrote: Hello fellow midwives, My name is Tracy Smith. A colleague Deb Pattrick and I, developed and manage a life education program called Core of Life. Some subscribers may have heard of it before. This program educates adolescents about the reality of being pregnant, giving birth and parenting a newborn. It is always co-presented with one of the presenters having a background in midwifery and is an incredible opportunity to share midwifery knowledge and normal childbirth with our parents of the future. This week it was announced that Core of Life has been endorsed by the Australian government and funded through Family and Community Services to expand Nationally over a three year period. We are very excited and would like to thank all those midwives who have encourage and supported us along this 5 year journey. It is our endeavour to enlighten all teenagers about the challenge and incredible journey they face with becoming a parent and how midwives and midwifery care can assist and empower them along the way. Cheers and Happy Easter (I know mine is now!) Tracy Smith
Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: testing my email again as I am receiving but unable to send - sorry for the humbug
No clues as to what you need to do Helen I'm pretty slow on the uptake when it comes to computers. Do you actually need ozmidwifery in your address book? That is the one address that I tend to remember. Just a thought Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 27 Mar, 2005, at 18:29, Helen and Graham wrote: Thanks Jan Yes I also received it. I had to retype the ozmidwifery details into my address book. ? why x-tad-bigger- Original Message -/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerFrom:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerJan Robinson/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerTo:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerSent:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerSunday, March 27, 2005 6:01 PM/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerSubject:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerRe: [ozmidwifery] Re: testing my email again as I am receiving but unable to send - sorry for the humbug/x-tad-bigger This reached the list Helen Cheers Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website:www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 27 Mar, 2005, at 17:13, Helen and Graham wrote: I seem to be able to receive from but not send to the list. I have contacted the list administrator but haven't heard anything back yet
[ozmidwifery] Pulling hair from fetal scalp
Hi ladies, Can anyone shed some light on this procedure for me please? A pair of flat bladed (like tweezers) scissors being used to perform an amniotomy with the possibility of fetal scalp hair and skin being pulled at the same time. A good friend of mine only recently shared this experience with me about her sons birth (August 2003). Apparently she and her husband were warned that hair and/or skin may be pulled, if hair was pulled it was a good indication of the babe being head down. After the procedure was performed, her sons hair was presented to them on a piece of cardboard. This was verified by another woman who overheard and shared her similar experience. I have never heard about this procedure, I cant find reference to it in any of my texts, or on the net. I must be looking in the wrong areas. Thanks- Isis
RE: [ozmidwifery] Pulling hair from fetal scalp
WOW! I HAD THIS HAPPEN TO ME 8 YEARS AGO AND NO ONE HAS EXPLAINED WHAT IT WAS ALL ABOUT!!! (Sorry, using caps as I almost yelled it out loud!) I was told they were going to see what coloured hair baby hadLike I cared There was no record on my notes but they doctored my notes something awful anyway and I have proofI have three sets and the most recent has had things added which I had previously questioned them about- and there has never been any explanation. I felt that it was such a cruel thing to do to my poor child! Eagerly awaiting posts! Jo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Isis Caple Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 8:05 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] Pulling hair from fetal scalp Hi ladies, Can anyone shed some light on this procedure for me please? A pair of flat bladed (like tweezers) scissors being used to perform an amniotomy with the possibility of fetal scalp hair and skin being pulled at the same time. A good friend of mine only recently shared this experience with me about her sons birth (August 2003). Apparently she and her husband were warned that hair and/or skin may be pulled, if hair was pulled it was a good indication of the babe being head down. After the procedure was performed, her sons hair was presented to them on a piece of cardboard. This was verified by another woman who overheard and shared her similar experience. I have never heard about this procedure, I cant find reference to it in any of my texts, or on the net. I must be looking in the wrong areas. Thanks- Isis -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.4 - Release Date: 3/27/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.4 - Release Date: 3/27/2005
Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: testing my email again as I am receiving but unable to send - sorry for the humbug
Hello, You are sending and receiving just fine - we are all getting your posts and if you are reading this, then you are receiving the list messages yourself. Sometimes, as Fiona remarked, the internet itself is down - nothing to do with the list itself. If this happens, you will suddenly get a rush of messages once the internet connection is restored. Regards, Andrea At 05:13 PM 27/03/2005, you wrote: I seem to be able to receive from but not send to the list. I have contacted the list administrator but haven't heard anything back yet - Andrea Robertson Birth International * ACE Graphics * Associates in Childbirth Education e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.birthinternational.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] Pulling hair from fetal scalp
Dear Isis, I have seen this occur on a number of occasions and it is usually performed using 'alligator forceps' by an older obstetrician or a new OG resident who is not confident to do an ARM with an amnihook. It's a bit barbaric in my opinion and totally unnecessary! On the rare occasion when an ARM is really necessary then an amnihook is a much kinder way of doing it! Leanne. From: Isis Caple [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] Pulling hair from fetal scalp Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 08:35:01 +1000 Hi ladies, Can anyone shed some light on this procedure for me please? A pair of flat bladed (like tweezers) scissors being used to perform an amniotomy with the possibility of fetal scalp hair and skin being 'pulled' at the same time. A good friend of mine only recently shared this experience with me about her son's birth (August 2003). Apparently she and her husband were warned that hair and/or skin may be pulled, if hair was pulled it was a good indication of the babe being head down. After the procedure was performed, her son's hair was presented to them on a piece of cardboard. This was verified by another woman who overheard and shared her similar experience. I have never heard about this procedure, I can't find reference to it in any of my texts, or on the net. I must be looking in the wrong areas. Thanks- Isis Leanne Wynne Midwife in charge of Women's Business Mildura Aboriginal Health Service Mob 0418 371862 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] Pulling hair from fetal scalp
Goodmorning Although I have seen ARM performed with forceps I've never seen it being done with the express purpose of trying to pull baby's hair or skin (thankfully!). Is it presumed no hair = no head ?!(as opposed to not engaged/bald,etc) I wonder if the practitioner performing this procedure would like their head, face, bottom, testicles or other presenting body part tugged with a surgical instrument when just trying to be born?! Kristie From: Isis Caple [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] Pulling hair from fetal scalp Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 08:35:01 +1000 Hi ladies, Can anyone shed some light on this procedure for me please? A pair of flat bladed (like tweezers) scissors being used to perform an amniotomy with the possibility of fetal scalp hair and skin being 'pulled' at the same time. A good friend of mine only recently shared this experience with me about her son's birth (August 2003). Apparently she and her husband were warned that hair and/or skin may be pulled, if hair was pulled it was a good indication of the babe being head down. After the procedure was performed, her son's hair was presented to them on a piece of cardboard. This was verified by another woman who overheard and shared her similar experience. I have never heard about this procedure, I can't find reference to it in any of my texts, or on the net. I must be looking in the wrong areas. Thanks- Isis _ Only one more day left to find $5000 on eBay: http://adfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/705-10129-5668-323?ID=1 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Sacred birthing talk and workshop...
Tania, I am interested Belinda - Original Message - From: Tania Smallwood To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 6:04 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Sacred birthing talk and workshop... There will be a workshop and talk by a midwife and 'past life and birthing therapist' Sunni Karll from Hawaii in Adelaide on 15th April 2005 and workshop on the weekend of the 16th and 17th. She is the author of Sacred Birthing, A New Humanity. Anyone interested can email me and I'll mail the attachment with details and prices etc. Cheers Tania PS Is there anyone from the Homebirth network in Melbourne or any birthing support groups that would like the document to circulate to members?
RE: [ozmidwifery] Pulling hair from fetal scalp
Thats is what I feel about this Kristie...what happens if babe was presenting face first and you pokes their eye out with this thing!? My AROM had already been preformed and the dr used the alligator thingies with me. It is one of the clearer memories I have of that stage of labour. I remember the way in which the dr looked at the hair with that stupid almost comically quizzical look and said well dark hair it is! AS if I cared!! I thought that perhaps it was some way of getting some feotal blood to sample but there was nothing recorded on the notes that the procedure had been done or the results. Anyone else heard of this?? Isis, can I ask where this was done? Jo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kristie Orchard Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 9:23 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Pulling hair from fetal scalp Goodmorning Although I have seen ARM performed with forceps I've never seen it being done with the express purpose of trying to pull baby's hair or skin (thankfully!). Is it presumed no hair = no head ?!(as opposed to not engaged/bald,etc) I wonder if the practitioner performing this procedure would like their head, face, bottom, testicles or other presenting body part tugged with a surgical instrument when just trying to be born?! Kristie From: Isis Caple [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] Pulling hair from fetal scalp Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 08:35:01 +1000 Hi ladies, Can anyone shed some light on this procedure for me please? A pair of flat bladed (like tweezers) scissors being used to perform an amniotomy with the possibility of fetal scalp hair and skin being 'pulled' at the same time. A good friend of mine only recently shared this experience with me about her son's birth (August 2003). Apparently she and her husband were warned that hair and/or skin may be pulled, if hair was pulled it was a good indication of the babe being head down. After the procedure was performed, her son's hair was presented to them on a piece of cardboard. This was verified by another woman who overheard and shared her similar experience. I have never heard about this procedure, I can't find reference to it in any of my texts, or on the net. I must be looking in the wrong areas. Thanks- Isis _ Only one more day left to find $5000 on eBay: http://adfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/705-10129-5668-323?ID=1 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.4 - Release Date: 3/27/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.4 - Release Date: 3/27/2005 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Pulling hair from fetal scalp
I have never heard of anyone being so insensitive and stupid to think it is okay to pull out the babies hair. I know that many people really believe that babies in utero don't feel pain which maybe is their justification for doing this type of torture on unborn babies, the others are scalp pHs and scalp 'clips'. The scalp clips also pull of the babies hair and skin and the literature shows this can leave a permanent bald spot. Michel Odent postulate that trauma to babies like this and procedures immediately after being born, im Konakion, heel pricks etc does something (the technical term!) to the babies immune system which is a reason for such high allergies etc in children these days. I know a midwife who put a scalp clip on her own head and kept in on for a fair while, she said she took it off in the end because her head was throbbing! It is a continual source of dismay, frustration and anger that so many practices are so damaging and traumatic without having any evidence or research basis that supports it - and women are trusting their carers to do no harm to them so they think these things were necessary, valuable, legitimate, productive, safe, protective etc etc When women realise, whenever that is for them, that this was probably not the case they are left with trauma , guilt, anger etc that stays with them. Too many women, I think ,internalise these things instead of turning it around and saying they were let down by those who they trusteed, anyway I am on a roll I had better stop. this could be why it is taking so long to finish my thesis!!! Belinda
Re: [ozmidwifery] Pulling hair from fetal scalp
You cannot get a ph reading off blood from the hair, so it is essentially a useless procedure for gaining any sort of intelligence about the babies well being, an you are right, what if it is not the head presenting, it tells us nothing but that the practitioner doing it is dangerous, cruel and ignorant - Original Message - From: Dean Jo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 9:39 AM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Pulling hair from fetal scalp Thats is what I feel about this Kristie...what happens if babe was presenting face first and you pokes their eye out with this thing!? My AROM had already been preformed and the dr used the alligator thingies with me. It is one of the clearer memories I have of that stage of labour. I remember the way in which the dr looked at the hair with that stupid almost comically quizzical look and said well dark hair it is! AS if I cared!! I thought that perhaps it was some way of getting some feotal blood to sample but there was nothing recorded on the notes that the procedure had been done or the results. Anyone else heard of this?? Isis, can I ask where this was done? Jo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kristie Orchard Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 9:23 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Pulling hair from fetal scalp Goodmorning Although I have seen ARM performed with forceps I've never seen it being done with the express purpose of trying to pull baby's hair or skin (thankfully!). Is it presumed no hair = no head ?!(as opposed to not engaged/bald,etc) I wonder if the practitioner performing this procedure would like their head, face, bottom, testicles or other presenting body part tugged with a surgical instrument when just trying to be born?! Kristie From: Isis Caple [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] Pulling hair from fetal scalp Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 08:35:01 +1000 Hi ladies, Can anyone shed some light on this procedure for me please? A pair of flat bladed (like tweezers) scissors being used to perform an amniotomy with the possibility of fetal scalp hair and skin being 'pulled' at the same time. A good friend of mine only recently shared this experience with me about her son's birth (August 2003). Apparently she and her husband were warned that hair and/or skin may be pulled, if hair was pulled it was a good indication of the babe being head down. After the procedure was performed, her son's hair was presented to them on a piece of cardboard. This was verified by another woman who overheard and shared her similar experience. I have never heard about this procedure, I can't find reference to it in any of my texts, or on the net. I must be looking in the wrong areas. Thanks- Isis _ Only one more day left to find $5000 on eBay: http://adfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/705-10129-5668-323?ID=1 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.4 - Release Date: 3/27/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.4 - Release Date: 3/27/2005 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] Pulling hair from fetal scalp
Jo, Mercy Hospital for Women and Royal Womens in Melbourne. I am so glad for the responses I have had so far. I had never heard of this happening, I truly thought it was a joke being played on me. Yet for 2 different women in two different hospitals to share their experience of it was mind boggling. How many other women and their babes experience this yet don't realise the realities? The reality being it is basically useless. At least now I am aware of it and I can give my clients options, if and when the alligator forceps are brandished. But then some women would love to have a lock of their babes hair stickytaped to a piece of cardboard before it is born. Would go nicely beside the whiz bang 3D/4D ultrasound snapshots. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean Jo Sent: Tuesday, 29 March 2005 10:09 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Pulling hair from fetal scalp That's is what I feel about this Kristie...what happens if babe was presenting face first and you pokes their eye out with this thing!? My AROM had already been preformed and the dr used the alligator thingies with me. It is one of the clearer memories I have of that stage of labour. I remember the way in which the dr looked at the hair with that stupid almost comically quizzical look and said well dark hair it is! AS if I cared!! I thought that perhaps it was some way of getting some feotal blood to sample but there was nothing recorded on the notes that the procedure had been done or the results. Anyone else heard of this?? Isis, can I ask where this was done? Jo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kristie Orchard Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 9:23 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Pulling hair from fetal scalp Goodmorning Although I have seen ARM performed with forceps I've never seen it being done with the express purpose of trying to pull baby's hair or skin (thankfully!). Is it presumed no hair = no head ?!(as opposed to not engaged/bald,etc) I wonder if the practitioner performing this procedure would like their head, face, bottom, testicles or other presenting body part tugged with a surgical instrument when just trying to be born?! Kristie From: Isis Caple [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] Pulling hair from fetal scalp Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 08:35:01 +1000 Hi ladies, Can anyone shed some light on this procedure for me please? A pair of flat bladed (like tweezers) scissors being used to perform an amniotomy with the possibility of fetal scalp hair and skin being 'pulled' at the same time. A good friend of mine only recently shared this experience with me about her son's birth (August 2003). Apparently she and her husband were warned that hair and/or skin may be pulled, if hair was pulled it was a good indication of the babe being head down. After the procedure was performed, her son's hair was presented to them on a piece of cardboard. This was verified by another woman who overheard and shared her similar experience. I have never heard about this procedure, I can't find reference to it in any of my texts, or on the net. I must be looking in the wrong areas. Thanks- Isis _ Only one more day left to find $5000 on eBay: http://adfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/705-10129-5668-323?ID=1 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.4 - Release Date: 3/27/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.4 - Release Date: 3/27/2005 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Pulling hair from fetal scalp
Isis Caple wrote: Hi ladies, Can anyone shed some light on this procedure for me please? A pair of flat bladed (like tweezers) scissors being used to perform an amniotomy with the possibility of fetal scalp hair and skin being pulled at the same time. A good friend of mine only recently shared this experience with me about her sons birth (August 2003). Apparently she and her husband were warned that hair and/or skin may be pulled, if hair was pulled it was a good indication of the babe being head down. After the procedure was performed, her sons hair was presented to them on a piece of cardboard. This was verified by another woman who overheard and shared her similar experience. I have never heard about this procedure, I cant find reference to it in any of my texts, or on the net. I must be looking in the wrong areas. Thanks- Isis I remember this... the large teaching hospital I did my training in in Melbourne used to use allegator forceps to do ARMs. When new doctors were learning the ARM technique, the plucking of a foetal hair was 'proof' that the infact, had ruptured the membranes. I can still hear them now...I got a foetal hair... Horrid. Jo (RM) -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery program attracts Fed Government support and funding
Dear Tracey Smith, Hi there! Could you email me 'off list' [EMAIL PROTECTED] am interested in more details. I work at Orange Base Hosp NSW nothing available for free antenatal classes for adolescents. Have you any supporting research/articles that support your course you could forward me please. Thanks Debbie x - Original Message - From: Tracy Smith To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 10:56 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery program attracts Fed Government support and funding Hello fellow midwives, My name is Tracy Smith. A colleague Deb Pattrick and I, developed and manage a life education program called Core of Life. Some subscribers may have heard of it before. This program educates adolescents about the reality of being pregnant, giving birth and parenting a newborn. It is always co-presented with one of the presenters having a background in midwifery and is an incredible opportunity to share midwifery knowledge and normal childbirth with our parents of the future. This week it was announced that Core of Life has been endorsed by the Australian government and funded through Family and Community Services to expand Nationally over a three year period. We are very excited and would like to thank all those midwives who have encourage and supported us along this 5 year journey. It is our endeavour to enlighten all teenagers about the challenge and incredible journey they face with becoming a parent and how midwives and midwifery care can assist and empower them along the way. Cheers and Happy Easter (I know mine is now!) Tracy Smith
Re: [ozmidwifery] newbie after some help :)
Hi all, Thanks so much for everyone's suggestions and ideas. It's really helpful, it's hard to know where to start to find things sometimes. Kirsten - thanks! midwifery today is a great website. Have recommended it to my study buddies. Maybe I should call us freak out buddies, esp when it comes to essays :) lol. Does anyone have any experience with a pregnant women having Parvo virus? One of the postnatal women I interviewed had it during pregnancy and was a bit hazy on the effects that it had on her baby other than that she had fortnightly u/s for poss growth retardation. Anyone know anything about it? I will look it up on the net, but first hand experiences seem to be more insightful. Thanks! Holly Tania Laurie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Holly Welcome to the list and the world of study! If you haven't found this book yet, you may find it helpful 'Understanding Pain and its Relief in Labour' by Sue Moore. It is not just about pain relief - there are chapters on the physiology of pain, psychology of pain and defining pain. It's quite an interesting read and I've referred to it a number of times throughout my studies/placements. Cheers Tania 3rd year BMid (UniSA) - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 2:15 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] newbie after some help :) Hi everyone, I've been reading everyones posts with great interest over the last few weeks and I have to say that everyone has such a great amount of knowledge combined it's fantastic and inspirational! I'll take a moment to introduce myself. My name is Holly I'm a first year bmid student at uts in nsw. This is the first year nsw has run the course and I am one of only 29! We all feel very honoured to have been chosen to do this course but overwhelmed and a bit scared!! I have four children who keep me very busy, but a fantastic husband and a very flexible nanny who have been my lifeline in the first four weeks (only 3 years to go! yipee!!) So my question is : I'm doing a critical reflection on an incident i observed in delivery 2 wks ago. I'm after articles etc that are about fear of pain in labour which can lead to ineffective pushing. Also relevant would be articles on how the pain of labour/childbirth can lead to delayed bonding between mother and baby. Pardon me if I use incorrect language in my descriptions (i'm struggling with the politically correct stuff). I'm also interested in knowing if Royal Hospital in Brisbane will look at employing bmids in 3 yrs time? I think someone on here is from that hospital? Thanks for you time and help in advance. ps - I have searched [EMAIL PROTECTED] with limited success -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Pulling hair from fetal scalp
Hi Isis Why would anyone want to subject the poor little fetus to such torture just to prove a point? There are plenty of fetal epidermal cells and lanugo present in amniotic fluid if proof is needed. As for the head-down thingo, can't they palpate? What a bunch of sadists! Perhaps one day a woman will sue the practitioners for assault or fetal abuse? Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 29 Mar, 2005, at 10:10, JoFromOz wrote: Isis Caple wrote: Hi ladies, Can anyone shed some light on this procedure for me please? A pair of flat bladed (like tweezers) scissors being used to perform an amniotomy with the possibility of fetal scalp hair and skin being pulled at the same time. A good friend of mine only recently shared this experience with me about her sons birth (August 2003). Apparently she and her husband were warned that hair and/or skin may be pulled, if hair was pulled it was a good indication of the babe being head down. After the procedure was performed, her sons hair was presented to them on a piece of cardboard. This was verified by another woman who overheard and shared her similar experience. I have never heard about this procedure, I cant find reference to it in any of my texts, or on the net. I must be looking in the wrong areas. Thanks- Isis I remember this... the large teaching hospital I did my training in in Melbourne used to use allegator forceps to do ARMs. When new doctors were learning the ARM technique, the plucking of a foetal hair was 'proof' that the infact, had ruptured the membranes. I can still hear them now...I got a foetal hair... Horrid. Jo (RM) -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] presentation to 6yr olds
OK, got 'persuaded' to do my bit in my sons Grade 1 class - got to give a little chat about What I do for the community? in my role as a rural RN and midwife. Needs to be about 10 mins long. Have some ideas, but looking for some bright ones from you 'creative' people out there. And NO, I do not have brand new baby to take along for show and tell! Cheryl -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] Parvo virus
Parvo virus in pregnancy can be a real nasty. At it's worst it can cause the baby to get hydrops fetalis and be stillborn, at best nothing. In between, it can cause intrauterine growth retardation- the reason for the extra ultrasounds. I had a client with it during pregnancy and luckily she had no ill effects . MM Does anyone have any experience with a pregnant women having Parvo virus? -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] presentation to 6yr olds
Hi Cheryl, I did this in my son's preschool class a year or so ago, and took a lovely pregnant woman in with me and did an antenatal appointment with her. The kids were absolutely taken with the pinard, and listened to their own heartbeats etc. Talked a lot about what a midwife does, how we can feel the baby, and how we listen to the mum, etc...it all went down very well. Cheers Tania - Original Message - From: Cheryl LHK [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 4:04 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] presentation to 6yr olds OK, got 'persuaded' to do my bit in my sons Grade 1 class - got to give a little chat about What I do for the community? in my role as a rural RN and midwife. Needs to be about 10 mins long. Have some ideas, but looking for some bright ones from you 'creative' people out there. And NO, I do not have brand new baby to take along for show and tell! Cheryl -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: testing my email again as I am receiving but unable to send - sorry for the humbug
Helen, The same thing has happenned to me over the past 2-3 weeks. I find the odd one gets through and others don't. Kind Regards Sally-Anne - Original Message - From: Helen and Graham To: Ozmidwifery Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 5:13 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Re: testing my email again as I am receiving but unable to send - sorry for the humbug I seem to be able to receive from but not send to the list.I have contacted the list administrator but haven't heard anything back yet Internal Virus Database is out-of-date.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.0 - Release Date: 21/03/2005 Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.0 - Release Date: 21/03/2005
