Re: [ozmidwifery] Absolutely horrified!
Amanda wrote: Perhaps it might be suggested that women should have an advocate in with them whenever the have to speak to these OBs either a midwife or someone like that, then maybe those OB's might choose their words a little more carefully !! FANTASTIC IDEA !! Take a doula / witness / advocate/ anyone who will support you. Your story made me cry Amanda !! To be treated so badly have no one to share it with, but still go on to triumph! You deserve a medal to have managed to birth at all ! With kind regards Brenda Manning www.themidwife.com.au - Original Message - From: Synnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 4:59 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Absolutely horrified! I cried when I read what your lady from Melbourne wrote. Just remembering the way a horrible doctor spoke to me when I was very pregnant with my third who also happened to be a VBAC. Had to see a doctor because it was hospital policy, they had to okay my natural birth decision before I could go ahead with it. My Doula was away and couldn't come to the appointment. His total negative attitude and the fact that he spoke to the inturn rather than to me as if I wasn't even in the room, made my blood boil. Then he decided he guessed they could let me trial labour. God did I wanted to slap him and slap him hard!!! But instead I said thankyou like a good little girl and drove myself home crying uncontrollably all the way (had to go to the hair dressers for app. right away). Composed myself and walked in, made excuses for my puffy eyes (hayfever), when all I wanted to do was scream my head off and rant about this bloody doctor but couldn't. I was so humiliated, felt like such an idiot and thought of all the great stuff I should have said to the doctors face, but because it was standing up for my own rights didn't say a word. Anyway my trial labour turned into a beautiful natural birth, no drugs, no cut, no interference by doctors ( I allowed one to stick a needle in my arm and that was it) birthed with a midwife, student midwife, my husband and my wonderful Doula. On my knees gripping onto my husbands shoulders, with a beautiful baby boy weighing 4540g (yes I have big babies and it can be done!). I hope as a midwife to give every birthing mother that kind of powerful birth (no matter what way the birth ends up), I felt so loved, so cared for, so safe and so empowered there was no question I wanted to do it again. Which by the way I am for the 4th time in May next year. I get so sick of hearing how women are treated by OB's when during pregnancy alot of them are very vulnerable and open to suggestion especially when it come to the OB giving them half truths in regards to what is best for them and their baby. Perhaps it might be suggested that women should have an advocate in with them whenever the have to speak to these OBs either a midwife or someone like that, then maybe those OB's might choose their words a little more carefully!! Sorry! Wow a bit of a rant there! Amanda - Original Message - From: Kelly @ BellyBelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 11:54 AM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Absolutely horrified! Thanks everyone for your thoughts and replies, it was a huge shock to me but I guess, sadly, that many of you are well used to this. I haven't heard from the woman since Saturday so chances are she's gone into labour. I pray it all went as well as she hoped. Best Regards, Kelly Zantey Director, www.bellybelly.com.au www.toys4tikes.com.au Gentle Solutions For Conception, Pregnancy, Birth Baby Australian Little Tikes Specialists -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cheryl LHK Sent: Monday, 21 November 2005 1:25 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Absolutely horrified! Yes, she can turn up to any public hospital with midwifery services and not be turned away. Tell her to have a copy of antenatal paperwork she has (if she has it!!) and the midwives at the hospital can ring her orginal booking hospital and get any records/pathology faxed over - or at least that has happened to us in the past. This is the sort of obs who needs a complaint written about him!! But it will turn into a he said, she said situation. If she goes back to him, take another person with her!! Cheryl From: Kelly @ BellyBelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] Absolutely horrified! Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 15:44:48 +1100 One of the girls in my forums here in Melbourne just posted this - no wonder she seemed upset when I saw her yesterday - I had no idea at the time: I have just had the worst night of my life, and its taken me 3 hours to stop crying uncontrollably. My Dr, who I've been seeing
RE: [ozmidwifery] Absolutely horrified!
Made YOU cry Brenda! I was her doula who was so rudely interstate at the time !!! Amanda's story made me cry that I wasn’t able to be with her Amanda is right though, she did birth AMAZINGLY! Go Girl! Love Jo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of brendamanning Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 8:53 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Absolutely horrified! Amanda wrote: Perhaps it might be suggested that women should have an advocate in with them whenever the have to speak to these OBs either a midwife or someone like that, then maybe those OB's might choose their words a little more carefully !! FANTASTIC IDEA !! Take a doula / witness / advocate/ anyone who will support you. Your story made me cry Amanda !! To be treated so badly have no one to share it with, but still go on to triumph! You deserve a medal to have managed to birth at all ! With kind regards Brenda Manning www.themidwife.com.au - Original Message - From: Synnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 4:59 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Absolutely horrified! I cried when I read what your lady from Melbourne wrote. Just remembering the way a horrible doctor spoke to me when I was very pregnant with my third who also happened to be a VBAC. Had to see a doctor because it was hospital policy, they had to okay my natural birth decision before I could go ahead with it. My Doula was away and couldn't come to the appointment. His total negative attitude and the fact that he spoke to the inturn rather than to me as if I wasn't even in the room, made my blood boil. Then he decided he guessed they could let me trial labour. God did I wanted to slap him and slap him hard!!! But instead I said thankyou like a good little girl and drove myself home crying uncontrollably all the way (had to go to the hair dressers for app. right away). Composed myself and walked in, made excuses for my puffy eyes (hayfever), when all I wanted to do was scream my head off and rant about this bloody doctor but couldn't. I was so humiliated, felt like such an idiot and thought of all the great stuff I should have said to the doctors face, but because it was standing up for my own rights didn't say a word. Anyway my trial labour turned into a beautiful natural birth, no drugs, no cut, no interference by doctors ( I allowed one to stick a needle in my arm and that was it) birthed with a midwife, student midwife, my husband and my wonderful Doula. On my knees gripping onto my husbands shoulders, with a beautiful baby boy weighing 4540g (yes I have big babies and it can be done!). I hope as a midwife to give every birthing mother that kind of powerful birth (no matter what way the birth ends up), I felt so loved, so cared for, so safe and so empowered there was no question I wanted to do it again. Which by the way I am for the 4th time in May next year. I get so sick of hearing how women are treated by OB's when during pregnancy alot of them are very vulnerable and open to suggestion especially when it come to the OB giving them half truths in regards to what is best for them and their baby. Perhaps it might be suggested that women should have an advocate in with them whenever the have to speak to these OBs either a midwife or someone like that, then maybe those OB's might choose their words a little more carefully!! Sorry! Wow a bit of a rant there! Amanda - Original Message - From: Kelly @ BellyBelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 11:54 AM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Absolutely horrified! Thanks everyone for your thoughts and replies, it was a huge shock to me but I guess, sadly, that many of you are well used to this. I haven't heard from the woman since Saturday so chances are she's gone into labour. I pray it all went as well as she hoped. Best Regards, Kelly Zantey Director, www.bellybelly.com.au www.toys4tikes.com.au Gentle Solutions For Conception, Pregnancy, Birth Baby Australian Little Tikes Specialists -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cheryl LHK Sent: Monday, 21 November 2005 1:25 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Absolutely horrified! Yes, she can turn up to any public hospital with midwifery services and not be turned away. Tell her to have a copy of antenatal paperwork she has (if she has it!!) and the midwives at the hospital can ring her orginal booking hospital and get any records/pathology faxed over - or at least that has happened to us in the past. This is the sort of obs who needs a complaint written about him!! But it will turn into a he said, she said situation. If she goes back to him, take another person with her
Re: [ozmidwifery] Absolutely horrified!
I cried when I read what your lady from Melbourne wrote. Just remembering the way a horrible doctor spoke to me when I was very pregnant with my third who also happened to be a VBAC. Had to see a doctor because it was hospital policy, they had to okay my natural birth decision before I could go ahead with it. My Doula was away and couldn't come to the appointment. His total negative attitude and the fact that he spoke to the inturn rather than to me as if I wasn't even in the room, made my blood boil. Then he decided he guessed they could let me trial labour. God did I wanted to slap him and slap him hard!!! But instead I said thankyou like a good little girl and drove myself home crying uncontrollably all the way (had to go to the hair dressers for app. right away). Composed myself and walked in, made excuses for my puffy eyes (hayfever), when all I wanted to do was scream my head off and rant about this bloody doctor but couldn't. I was so humiliated, felt like such an idiot and thought of all the great stuff I should have said to the doctors face, but because it was standing up for my own rights didn't say a word. Anyway my trial labour turned into a beautiful natural birth, no drugs, no cut, no interference by doctors ( I allowed one to stick a needle in my arm and that was it) birthed with a midwife, student midwife, my husband and my wonderful Doula. On my knees gripping onto my husbands shoulders, with a beautiful baby boy weighing 4540g (yes I have big babies and it can be done!). I hope as a midwife to give every birthing mother that kind of powerful birth (no matter what way the birth ends up), I felt so loved, so cared for, so safe and so empowered there was no question I wanted to do it again. Which by the way I am for the 4th time in May next year. I get so sick of hearing how women are treated by OB's when during pregnancy alot of them are very vulnerable and open to suggestion especially when it come to the OB giving them half truths in regards to what is best for them and their baby. Perhaps it might be suggested that women should have an advocate in with them whenever the have to speak to these OBs either a midwife or someone like that, then maybe those OB's might choose their words a little more carefully!! Sorry! Wow a bit of a rant there! Amanda - Original Message - From: Kelly @ BellyBelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 11:54 AM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Absolutely horrified! Thanks everyone for your thoughts and replies, it was a huge shock to me but I guess, sadly, that many of you are well used to this. I haven't heard from the woman since Saturday so chances are she's gone into labour. I pray it all went as well as she hoped. Best Regards, Kelly Zantey Director, www.bellybelly.com.au www.toys4tikes.com.au Gentle Solutions For Conception, Pregnancy, Birth Baby Australian Little Tikes Specialists -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cheryl LHK Sent: Monday, 21 November 2005 1:25 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Absolutely horrified! Yes, she can turn up to any public hospital with midwifery services and not be turned away. Tell her to have a copy of antenatal paperwork she has (if she has it!!) and the midwives at the hospital can ring her orginal booking hospital and get any records/pathology faxed over - or at least that has happened to us in the past. This is the sort of obs who needs a complaint written about him!! But it will turn into a he said, she said situation. If she goes back to him, take another person with her!! Cheryl From: Kelly @ BellyBelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] Absolutely horrified! Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 15:44:48 +1100 One of the girls in my forums here in Melbourne just posted this - no wonder she seemed upset when I saw her yesterday - I had no idea at the time: I have just had the worst night of my life, and its taken me 3 hours to stop crying uncontrollably. My Dr, who I've been seeing throughout my pg is on leave (bereavement), and since I'm at 41 weeks, the midwives I'm seeing sent me to see the OB who's filling in for him. So I go for my appt. First, he does a stretch sweep without asking me or any prior warning. Then he says he's booking me in to be induced tomorrow, which when I questioned it he tells me I'm going to kill my baby cos I'm past 41 weeks. The he goes on to say 'I'm not into any of that airy fairy [EMAIL PROTECTED] You'll deliver on the bed, on your back. I'm not a vet.' So I said I was planning an active birth, (which is what my Dr prefers) and he says I'll have to see someone else and good luck getting in to see anyone else at this stage of the game. So now I have no obstetrician, no doctor and I don't know
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Interesting thought - I was recently talking with an aquaintance who is seeing a private ob. She is already being 'primed' for C/S (at 30 wks, primip) due to gestational diabetes. I discussed some of the actual evidence with her and she said that she had learned more in 10 minutes on the phone than in all her A/N visits to date. Went on to say that the A/N visits made her feel patronised, bullied, and upset. I asked her if she would pay any other service-provider $100 a time to be made to feel so unsatisfied and suggested that she 'vote with her feet' and find another place to have her baby. She was surprised to think that it could be an option to change at this stage, and this is a well-educated and professional woman who is actually providing me with a service, so I said that if she made me feel as bad about accessing her service as her ob was making her feel, I would certainly be looking elsewhere! Sue The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing Edmund Burke - Original Message - From: Janet Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Absolutely horrified! Kelly if you're around enough hospy birthing mamas you hear all this and more regularly. I'm always puzzled by what crap service women are prepared to submit to without protesting or looking for a better way. Maybe when we're actually liberated from our Nice Girl Shackles and have some rights as citizens things will be different. I often ask women whether or not they liked their Ob and mostly they don't, and mostly they're hurt or distressed by actions or words from that Ob but they're going back next time. Um yeah... Stockholm Syndrome? J - Original Message - From: Kelly @ BellyBelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 12:24 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Absolutely horrified! Thanks everyone for your thoughts and replies, it was a huge shock to me but I guess, sadly, that many of you are well used to this. I haven't heard from the woman since Saturday so chances are she's gone into labour. I pray it all went as well as she hoped. Best Regards, Kelly Zantey Director, www.bellybelly.com.au www.toys4tikes.com.au Gentle Solutions For Conception, Pregnancy, Birth Baby Australian Little Tikes Specialists -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cheryl LHK Sent: Monday, 21 November 2005 1:25 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Absolutely horrified! Yes, she can turn up to any public hospital with midwifery services and not be turned away. Tell her to have a copy of antenatal paperwork she has (if she has it!!) and the midwives at the hospital can ring her orginal booking hospital and get any records/pathology faxed over - or at least that has happened to us in the past. This is the sort of obs who needs a complaint written about him!! But it will turn into a he said, she said situation. If she goes back to him, take another person with her!! Cheryl From: Kelly @ BellyBelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] Absolutely horrified! Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 15:44:48 +1100 One of the girls in my forums here in Melbourne just posted this - no wonder she seemed upset when I saw her yesterday - I had no idea at the time: I have just had the worst night of my life, and its taken me 3 hours to stop crying uncontrollably. My Dr, who I've been seeing throughout my pg is on leave (bereavement), and since I'm at 41 weeks, the midwives I'm seeing sent me to see the OB who's filling in for him. So I go for my appt. First, he does a stretch sweep without asking me or any prior warning. Then he says he's booking me in to be induced tomorrow, which when I questioned it he tells me I'm going to kill my baby cos I'm past 41 weeks. The he goes on to say 'I'm not into any of that airy fairy [EMAIL PROTECTED] You'll deliver on the bed, on your back. I'm not a vet.' So I said I was planning an active birth, (which is what my Dr prefers) and he says I'll have to see someone else and good luck getting in to see anyone else at this stage of the game. So now I have no obstetrician, no doctor and I don't know what I'm going to do. I'm seriously thinkg about fronting up tomorrow at the Royal Womens to see if I can have my baby there instead of the hospital I'm booked in at - can they turn you away if its a public hospital? This is appalling - beyond belief. my blood is boiling it really is.. Best Regards, Kelly Zantey Director, http://www.bellybelly.com.au/ www.bellybelly.com.au http://www.toys4tikes.com.au/ www.toys4tikes.com.au Gentle Solutions For Conception, Pregnancy, Birth Baby Australian Little Tikes Specialists -- This mailing list is sponsored
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The things this horrible, horrible man has been saying gets even worse - am I able to publish his details on here? He truly needs to have his butt kicked out of this world... check this out from her cousin: He has been practicing for at least 20 years probably more like 30. He delivered my friends first child and after the episiotomy turned to her husband and asked him how many extra stitches he wanted put in to make her tighter, they thought he was joking and when her husband said so he said no I'm serious I do it for the husbands all the time. He is c/s happy and I know of 2 women who have had to have the c/s wounds re-stitched after he has 'rushed' it. He is also a gyno and I had to see him for ovarian cysts as a 15 year old. The whole experience so traumatised me I ignored all gyno type problems and pains until I was in my early 20's (including pap smears. His (receptionists) were even horrible. The second OB she saw (the one the midwives organised for her) was really good. He sat down and discussed with her what she would like for the birth and told her she could be as active as she wanted. Besides checking in with the midwives a few times pretty much just let her do her thing and only came in when she needed a few stitches after the birth. Thanks (on behalf of her family, I'm her cousin but this is from her mum and dad) for all the support you gave her in the last few days. Best Regards, Kelly Zantey Director, www.bellybelly.com.au www.toys4tikes.com.au Gentle Solutions For Conception, Pregnancy, Birth Baby Australian Little Tikes Specialists -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Cudlipp Sent: Tuesday, 22 November 2005 2:33 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Absolutely horrified! Interesting thought - I was recently talking with an aquaintance who is seeing a private ob. She is already being 'primed' for C/S (at 30 wks, primip) due to gestational diabetes. I discussed some of the actual evidence with her and she said that she had learned more in 10 minutes on the phone than in all her A/N visits to date. Went on to say that the A/N visits made her feel patronised, bullied, and upset. I asked her if she would pay any other service-provider $100 a time to be made to feel so unsatisfied and suggested that she 'vote with her feet' and find another place to have her baby. She was surprised to think that it could be an option to change at this stage, and this is a well-educated and professional woman who is actually providing me with a service, so I said that if she made me feel as bad about accessing her service as her ob was making her feel, I would certainly be looking elsewhere! Sue The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing Edmund Burke - Original Message - From: Janet Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Absolutely horrified! Kelly if you're around enough hospy birthing mamas you hear all this and more regularly. I'm always puzzled by what crap service women are prepared to submit to without protesting or looking for a better way. Maybe when we're actually liberated from our Nice Girl Shackles and have some rights as citizens things will be different. I often ask women whether or not they liked their Ob and mostly they don't, and mostly they're hurt or distressed by actions or words from that Ob but they're going back next time. Um yeah... Stockholm Syndrome? J - Original Message - From: Kelly @ BellyBelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 12:24 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Absolutely horrified! Thanks everyone for your thoughts and replies, it was a huge shock to me but I guess, sadly, that many of you are well used to this. I haven't heard from the woman since Saturday so chances are she's gone into labour. I pray it all went as well as she hoped. Best Regards, Kelly Zantey Director, www.bellybelly.com.au www.toys4tikes.com.au Gentle Solutions For Conception, Pregnancy, Birth Baby Australian Little Tikes Specialists -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cheryl LHK Sent: Monday, 21 November 2005 1:25 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Absolutely horrified! Yes, she can turn up to any public hospital with midwifery services and not be turned away. Tell her to have a copy of antenatal paperwork she has (if she has it!!) and the midwives at the hospital can ring her orginal booking hospital and get any records/pathology faxed over - or at least that has happened to us in the past. This is the sort of obs who needs a complaint written about him!! But it will turn into a he said, she said situation. If she goes back to him, take another person
RE: [ozmidwifery] Absolutely horrified!
I've started a discussion and poll on the topic of Obs and if women were happy with the care they received from them, will be interesting to see the results, because BellyBelly is a fairly mainstream site, with a gentle approach where possible (I sneak it in at every chance, and the conversion is slowly working...slowly but surely ;) Here's the link if you want to keep an eye on it: http://bellybelly.com.au/forums/viewtopic.php?t=17164 Best Regards, Kelly Zantey Director, www.bellybelly.com.au www.toys4tikes.com.au Gentle Solutions For Conception, Pregnancy, Birth Baby Australian Little Tikes Specialists -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Janet Fraser Sent: Monday, 21 November 2005 12:28 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Absolutely horrified! Kelly if you're around enough hospy birthing mamas you hear all this and more regularly. I'm always puzzled by what crap service women are prepared to submit to without protesting or looking for a better way. Maybe when we're actually liberated from our Nice Girl Shackles and have some rights as citizens things will be different. I often ask women whether or not they liked their Ob and mostly they don't, and mostly they're hurt or distressed by actions or words from that Ob but they're going back next time. Um yeah... Stockholm Syndrome? J - Original Message - From: Kelly @ BellyBelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 12:24 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Absolutely horrified! Thanks everyone for your thoughts and replies, it was a huge shock to me but I guess, sadly, that many of you are well used to this. I haven't heard from the woman since Saturday so chances are she's gone into labour. I pray it all went as well as she hoped. Best Regards, Kelly Zantey Director, www.bellybelly.com.au www.toys4tikes.com.au Gentle Solutions For Conception, Pregnancy, Birth Baby Australian Little Tikes Specialists -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cheryl LHK Sent: Monday, 21 November 2005 1:25 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Absolutely horrified! Yes, she can turn up to any public hospital with midwifery services and not be turned away. Tell her to have a copy of antenatal paperwork she has (if she has it!!) and the midwives at the hospital can ring her orginal booking hospital and get any records/pathology faxed over - or at least that has happened to us in the past. This is the sort of obs who needs a complaint written about him!! But it will turn into a he said, she said situation. If she goes back to him, take another person with her!! Cheryl From: Kelly @ BellyBelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] Absolutely horrified! Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 15:44:48 +1100 One of the girls in my forums here in Melbourne just posted this - no wonder she seemed upset when I saw her yesterday - I had no idea at the time: I have just had the worst night of my life, and its taken me 3 hours to stop crying uncontrollably. My Dr, who I've been seeing throughout my pg is on leave (bereavement), and since I'm at 41 weeks, the midwives I'm seeing sent me to see the OB who's filling in for him. So I go for my appt. First, he does a stretch sweep without asking me or any prior warning. Then he says he's booking me in to be induced tomorrow, which when I questioned it he tells me I'm going to kill my baby cos I'm past 41 weeks. The he goes on to say 'I'm not into any of that airy fairy [EMAIL PROTECTED] You'll deliver on the bed, on your back. I'm not a vet.' So I said I was planning an active birth, (which is what my Dr prefers) and he says I'll have to see someone else and good luck getting in to see anyone else at this stage of the game. So now I have no obstetrician, no doctor and I don't know what I'm going to do. I'm seriously thinkg about fronting up tomorrow at the Royal Womens to see if I can have my baby there instead of the hospital I'm booked in at - can they turn you away if its a public hospital? This is appalling - beyond belief. my blood is boiling it really is.. Best Regards, Kelly Zantey Director, http://www.bellybelly.com.au/ www.bellybelly.com.au http://www.toys4tikes.com.au/ www.toys4tikes.com.au Gentle Solutions For Conception, Pregnancy, Birth Baby Australian Little Tikes Specialists -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe
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Kelly I started a thread on NP about why women chose obstetric care since I get tired of answering the qn about home birth LOL. It was very revealing. Most women said Because I didn't know I had any other options and I'll never do it again. Very few were truly happy. I note from your own thread someone being happy despite being denied a VBAC so obviously it's pretty low base line for happiness if being forced into unnecessary major surgery is ok, yk? J -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] Absolutely horrified!
Yes, she can turn up to any public hospital with midwifery services and not be turned away. Tell her to have a copy of antenatal paperwork she has (if she has it!!) and the midwives at the hospital can ring her orginal booking hospital and get any records/pathology faxed over - or at least that has happened to us in the past. This is the sort of obs who needs a complaint written about him!! But it will turn into a he said, she said situation. If she goes back to him, take another person with her!! Cheryl From: Kelly @ BellyBelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] Absolutely horrified! Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 15:44:48 +1100 One of the girls in my forums here in Melbourne just posted this - no wonder she seemed upset when I saw her yesterday - I had no idea at the time: I have just had the worst night of my life, and its taken me 3 hours to stop crying uncontrollably. My Dr, who I've been seeing throughout my pg is on leave (bereavement), and since I'm at 41 weeks, the midwives I'm seeing sent me to see the OB who's filling in for him. So I go for my appt. First, he does a stretch sweep without asking me or any prior warning. Then he says he's booking me in to be induced tomorrow, which when I questioned it he tells me I'm going to kill my baby cos I'm past 41 weeks. The he goes on to say 'I'm not into any of that airy fairy [EMAIL PROTECTED] You'll deliver on the bed, on your back. I'm not a vet.' So I said I was planning an active birth, (which is what my Dr prefers) and he says I'll have to see someone else and good luck getting in to see anyone else at this stage of the game. So now I have no obstetrician, no doctor and I don't know what I'm going to do. I'm seriously thinkg about fronting up tomorrow at the Royal Womens to see if I can have my baby there instead of the hospital I'm booked in at - can they turn you away if its a public hospital? This is appalling - beyond belief. my blood is boiling it really is.. Best Regards, Kelly Zantey Director, http://www.bellybelly.com.au/ www.bellybelly.com.au http://www.toys4tikes.com.au/ www.toys4tikes.com.au Gentle Solutions For Conception, Pregnancy, Birth Baby Australian Little Tikes Specialists -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] Absolutely horrified!
Thanks everyone for your thoughts and replies, it was a huge shock to me but I guess, sadly, that many of you are well used to this. I haven't heard from the woman since Saturday so chances are she's gone into labour. I pray it all went as well as she hoped. Best Regards, Kelly Zantey Director, www.bellybelly.com.au www.toys4tikes.com.au Gentle Solutions For Conception, Pregnancy, Birth Baby Australian Little Tikes Specialists -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cheryl LHK Sent: Monday, 21 November 2005 1:25 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Absolutely horrified! Yes, she can turn up to any public hospital with midwifery services and not be turned away. Tell her to have a copy of antenatal paperwork she has (if she has it!!) and the midwives at the hospital can ring her orginal booking hospital and get any records/pathology faxed over - or at least that has happened to us in the past. This is the sort of obs who needs a complaint written about him!! But it will turn into a he said, she said situation. If she goes back to him, take another person with her!! Cheryl From: Kelly @ BellyBelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] Absolutely horrified! Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 15:44:48 +1100 One of the girls in my forums here in Melbourne just posted this - no wonder she seemed upset when I saw her yesterday - I had no idea at the time: I have just had the worst night of my life, and its taken me 3 hours to stop crying uncontrollably. My Dr, who I've been seeing throughout my pg is on leave (bereavement), and since I'm at 41 weeks, the midwives I'm seeing sent me to see the OB who's filling in for him. So I go for my appt. First, he does a stretch sweep without asking me or any prior warning. Then he says he's booking me in to be induced tomorrow, which when I questioned it he tells me I'm going to kill my baby cos I'm past 41 weeks. The he goes on to say 'I'm not into any of that airy fairy [EMAIL PROTECTED] You'll deliver on the bed, on your back. I'm not a vet.' So I said I was planning an active birth, (which is what my Dr prefers) and he says I'll have to see someone else and good luck getting in to see anyone else at this stage of the game. So now I have no obstetrician, no doctor and I don't know what I'm going to do. I'm seriously thinkg about fronting up tomorrow at the Royal Womens to see if I can have my baby there instead of the hospital I'm booked in at - can they turn you away if its a public hospital? This is appalling - beyond belief. my blood is boiling it really is.. Best Regards, Kelly Zantey Director, http://www.bellybelly.com.au/ www.bellybelly.com.au http://www.toys4tikes.com.au/ www.toys4tikes.com.au Gentle Solutions For Conception, Pregnancy, Birth Baby Australian Little Tikes Specialists -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] Absolutely horrified!
Oh my goodness Can you refer this woman to a midwife, doula, midwifery student, birthing centre, anyone out there who might be able to support her? She certainly has every right to rock up to a public hospital in labour, but if shes going to do that unannounced, she might feel more comfortable doing it with some support nearby Hope she finds the strength to make changes this late on in the piece, which might ensure she gets the support, and the birth she deserves Tania From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelly @ BellyBelly Sent: Sunday, 20 November 2005 3:15 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] Absolutely horrified! One of the girls in my forums here in Melbourne just posted this no wonder she seemed upset when I saw her yesterday I had no idea at the time: I have just had the worst night of my life, and its taken me 3 hours to stop crying uncontrollably. My Dr, who I've been seeing throughout my pg is on leave (bereavement), and since I'm at 41 weeks, the midwives I'm seeing sent me to see the OB who's filling in for him. So I go for my appt. First, he does a stretch sweep without asking me or any prior warning. Then he says he's booking me in to be induced tomorrow, which when I questioned it he tells me I'm going to kill my baby cos I'm past 41 weeks. The he goes on to say 'I'm not into any of that airy fairy [EMAIL PROTECTED] You'll deliver on the bed, on your back. I'm not a vet.' So I said I was planning an active birth, (which is what my Dr prefers) and he says I'll have to see someone else and good luck getting in to see anyone else at this stage of the game. So now I have no obstetrician, no doctor and I don't know what I'm going to do. I'm seriously thinkg about fronting up tomorrow at the Royal Womens to see if I can have my baby there instead of the hospital I'm booked in at - can they turn you away if its a public hospital? This is appalling beyond belief my blood is boiling it really is. Best Regards, Kelly Zantey Director, www.bellybelly.com.au www.toys4tikes.com.au Gentle Solutions For Conception, Pregnancy, Birth Baby Australian Little Tikes Specialists
Re: [ozmidwifery] Absolutely horrified!
She can certainly go to any public hospital, if she gets a chance it would be better to go in and at least get one appointment so that they have a file for her, but if she goes into labour before that's possible they can't turn her away! I spoke to a woman yesterday who had just her first private OB appointment and he told her he would have to put her in the naughtly corner!!! For asking questions. Thankfully she's not putting up with that sort of treatment and is finding out about her other options and probably going public with a midwives team. I hope she gets all the support she needs. Honey - Original Message - From: Tania Smallwood To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 4:47 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Absolutely horrified! Oh my goodness Can you refer this woman to a midwife, doula, midwifery student, birthing centre, anyone out there who might be able to support her? She certainly has every right to rock up to a public hospital in labour, but if shes going to do that unannounced, she might feel more comfortable doing it with some support nearby Hope she finds the strength to make changes this late on in the piece, which might ensure she gets the support, and the birth she deserves Tania From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelly @ BellyBellySent: Sunday, 20 November 2005 3:15 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] Absolutely horrified! One of the girls in my forums here in Melbourne just posted this no wonder she seemed upset when I saw her yesterday I had no idea at the time: I have just had the worst night of my life, and its taken me 3 hours to stop crying uncontrollably. My Dr, who I've been seeing throughout my pg is on leave (bereavement), and since I'm at 41 weeks, the midwives I'm seeing sent me to see the OB who's filling in for him. So I go for my appt. First, he does a stretch sweep without asking me or any prior warning. Then he says he's booking me in to be induced tomorrow, which when I questioned it he tells me I'm going to kill my baby cos I'm past 41 weeks. The he goes on to say 'I'm not into any of that airy fairy [EMAIL PROTECTED] You'll deliver on the bed, on your back. I'm not a vet.' So I said I was planning an active birth, (which is what my Dr prefers) and he says I'll have to see someone else and good luck getting in to see anyone else at this stage of the game. So now I have no obstetrician, no doctor and I don't know what I'm going to do. I'm seriously thinkg about fronting up tomorrow at the Royal Womens to see if I can have my baby there instead of the hospital I'm booked in at - can they turn you away if its a public hospital? This is appalling beyond belief my blood is boiling it really is . Best Regards,Kelly ZanteyDirector, www.bellybelly.com.au www.toys4tikes.com.auGentle Solutions For Conception, Pregnancy, Birth BabyAustralian Little Tikes Specialists
