Re: Recommendation Portable P A System
Brilliant John. Thanks again.Gordon - Original Message - From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 4:35 PM Subject: Re: Recommendation Portable P A System High once again G, I took another look at the back of my system with the help of my Dear wife. She tells me right where you plug the AC cord in to it, it has a switch whitch says 120V/240V. So baced on this, this Fender Passport-250 system will work anywhere in the world. So there is a good chance that this system will work in the UK. The radioshack one, you will need a step down transformer to use it in the UK without blowing it up. I hope this info helps you too as well John Price. - Original Message - From: G. McFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 10:45 AM Subject: Re: Recommendation Portable P A System HI Gary Thanks for your input too. This sounds good too. I'll have to do some research on these names and the voltages as I'm in the UK. Gordon - Original Message - From: Gary G Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 3:10 PM Subject: Re: Recommendation Portable P A System try one of the little radio shack 40 watt PA systems. you can run them from a car battery or 120 volt line. you may control two microphones and there is a switch for switching between phono and auxiliary inputs on the back. if you have a decent PA speaker, your in business. $100.00 is about what you would pay to entertain those nice folks. you can carry it under your arm. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This email has been verified as Virus free Virus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.13.1/982 - Release Date: 8/31/2007 5:21 PM Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This email has been verified as Virus free Virus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Recommendation Portable P A System
Brilliant John. Thanks again. Gordon - Original Message - From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 4:35 PM Subject: Re: Recommendation Portable P A System High once again G, I took another look at the back of my system with the help of my Dear wife. She tells me right where you plug the AC cord in to it, it has a switch whitch says 120V/240V. So baced on this, this Fender Passport-250 system will work anywhere in the world. So there is a good chance that this system will work in the UK. The radioshack one, you will need a step down transformer to use it in the UK without blowing it up. I hope this info helps you too as well John Price. - Original Message - From: G. McFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 10:45 AM Subject: Re: Recommendation Portable P A System HI Gary Thanks for your input too. This sounds good too. I'll have to do some research on these names and the voltages as I'm in the UK. Gordon - Original Message - From: Gary G Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 3:10 PM Subject: Re: Recommendation Portable P A System try one of the little radio shack 40 watt PA systems. you can run them from a car battery or 120 volt line. you may control two microphones and there is a switch for switching between phono and auxiliary inputs on the back. if you have a decent PA speaker, your in business. $100.00 is about what you would pay to entertain those nice folks. you can carry it under your arm. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This email has been verified as Virus free Virus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.13.1/982 - Release Date: 8/31/2007 5:21 PM Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This email has been verified as Virus free Virus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Getting video tapes on to computer
Hi all, I seem to remember that someone on this list new of an easy way to get a video collection on to your computer's hard drive? Does anyone remember what that was? Thank you so much for any suggestions! Vicky Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Splitting mp3 files
Michael, Many thanks for this. I found the program you mention, but did not know about the tutorial. I'll give it a listen. Thanks again, David. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Lang Sent: 02 September 2007 02:54 To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Splitting mp3 files This can be done with MP3DirectCut. Just type the name in a Google edit box and you'll find download addresses. A great audio tutorial for the program is available here: http://musicmaker365.home.comcast.net/mp3dc_help.zip *** Michael Lang *** You wrote: Hi all, I have just recorded the contents of a cassette onto my computer. It consists of about 14 tracks, and I’d like to find a quick way of splitting it up. I vaguely remember that there is a program that will do this, but years ago. What is the most accessible program I can use. The file is mp3, Thanks in anticipation, Dave. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.13.1/982 - Release Date: 31/08/2007 17:21 Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.13.2/983 - Release Date: 01/09/2007 16:20 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.13.2/983 - Release Date: 01/09/2007 16:20 Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Output format tips needed:
Hi. If you're looking to retain exact audio copies of your CD's before selling them then you'll need to use a lossless format. I'd recommend lossless WMA and using windows media player to rip your CD's rather than nero. As you're probably aware, next to MP3, WMA is the most commonly supported format. It's also a proprietary microsoft format and I don't see microsoft going away any day soon so the longevity of the format should be guaranteed over any other. Lossless formats take up around 50 to 75% of the original CDDA equivalent so you'll need a lot of disc space to hold 650 CD's. I've currently got around 700 CD's ripped in lossless format and they're taking up just over 270GB of disc space. You'll also need to back up your hard drive because if you have a hard drive failure, you're going to want to get your music back from your saves. I currently use 3 hard drives, a master and 2 back up drives. WAV files will take up more space than lossless WMA or FLAC files and they don't support ID3 tags so I would disuade you of using this format. They don't sound any better than lossless formats either so I don't see why anyone would waste disc space on this format. If you use windows media player to rip your collection you'll be able to set it up to automatically start ripping when you insert a CD and eject it on completion. I don't think you can do this with nero but I could be wrong. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 3:43 PM Subject: Output format tips needed: I have 650 audio disks I plan to rip to my external drive. Since I'm going to sell the disks want the sound to be of really good quality but I can't afford to make duplicates in CDA format. I'd also like to be in a position to change the format if a new one comes along that's enough better to justify it. I plan to use, Nero 7 Ultra Edition and rip to flak but I'm open to all suggestions. also, I've used Roxio products for years but I switched because the latest version of their program was less accessible than Nero. therefore, if anyone has a tutorial or general configuration tips, I'd love to hear them. Thanks in advance. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Output format tips needed:
High Kevin, this is Mr. John Price. This is exactly what I do. I have Wenamp V5.35, but when I want to rip CDs, I fall back on Windows Media Player to do it. And I rip all of my Cds in the WMA lossless format. And so when I make compilation CDs, they turn out sounding like store bought Cds. Maybe the others will ketch on. - Original Message - From: Kevin Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 9:30 AM Subject: Re: Output format tips needed: Hi. If you're looking to retain exact audio copies of your CD's before selling them then you'll need to use a lossless format. I'd recommend lossless WMA and using windows media player to rip your CD's rather than nero. As you're probably aware, next to MP3, WMA is the most commonly supported format. It's also a proprietary microsoft format and I don't see microsoft going away any day soon so the longevity of the format should be guaranteed over any other. Lossless formats take up around 50 to 75% of the original CDDA equivalent so you'll need a lot of disc space to hold 650 CD's. I've currently got around 700 CD's ripped in lossless format and they're taking up just over 270GB of disc space. You'll also need to back up your hard drive because if you have a hard drive failure, you're going to want to get your music back from your saves. I currently use 3 hard drives, a master and 2 back up drives. WAV files will take up more space than lossless WMA or FLAC files and they don't support ID3 tags so I would disuade you of using this format. They don't sound any better than lossless formats either so I don't see why anyone would waste disc space on this format. If you use windows media player to rip your collection you'll be able to set it up to automatically start ripping when you insert a CD and eject it on completion. I don't think you can do this with nero but I could be wrong. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 3:43 PM Subject: Output format tips needed: I have 650 audio disks I plan to rip to my external drive. Since I'm going to sell the disks want the sound to be of really good quality but I can't afford to make duplicates in CDA format. I'd also like to be in a position to change the format if a new one comes along that's enough better to justify it. I plan to use, Nero 7 Ultra Edition and rip to flak but I'm open to all suggestions. also, I've used Roxio products for years but I switched because the latest version of their program was less accessible than Nero. therefore, if anyone has a tutorial or general configuration tips, I'd love to hear them. Thanks in advance. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.13.1/982 - Release Date: 8/31/2007 5:21 PM Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Recommendation Portable P A System
Hi, I checked out EBay using the search term Fender passport. Found lots of hits. The 250 version new is available for around $500 US Note that there is also 500 and 150 watt systems under this model. They come with two microphones and the latest versions come with a CD player built in. You will need to purchase speaker stands separately which are also available on EBay. Cheers...Keith - Original Message - From: G. McFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 12:19 AM Subject: Re: Recommendation Portable P A System Brilliant John. Thanks again.Gordon - Original Message - From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 4:35 PM Subject: Re: Recommendation Portable P A System High once again G, I took another look at the back of my system with the help of my Dear wife. She tells me right where you plug the AC cord in to it, it has a switch whitch says 120V/240V. So baced on this, this Fender Passport-250 system will work anywhere in the world. So there is a good chance that this system will work in the UK. The radioshack one, you will need a step down transformer to use it in the UK without blowing it up. I hope this info helps you too as well John Price. - Original Message - From: G. McFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 10:45 AM Subject: Re: Recommendation Portable P A System HI Gary Thanks for your input too. This sounds good too. I'll have to do some research on these names and the voltages as I'm in the UK. Gordon - Original Message - From: Gary G Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 3:10 PM Subject: Re: Recommendation Portable P A System try one of the little radio shack 40 watt PA systems. you can run them from a car battery or 120 volt line. you may control two microphones and there is a switch for switching between phono and auxiliary inputs on the back. if you have a decent PA speaker, your in business. $100.00 is about what you would pay to entertain those nice folks. you can carry it under your arm. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This email has been verified as Virus free Virus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.13.1/982 - Release Date: 8/31/2007 5:21 PM Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This email has been verified as Virus free Virus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Getting video tapes on to computer
I would mostly mean just sound, but knowing how to do both would be nice. Thanks for any info! Vicky Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Output format tips needed:
Kevin, thanks for the Info. I'm doing quite a bit of research because the project is rather large and I can't afford to make mistakes. Once the disks are sold, I'm left with the copies, no matter the quality of the conversion. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Lloyd Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 6:31 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Output format tips needed: Hi. If you're looking to retain exact audio copies of your CD's before selling them then you'll need to use a lossless format. I'd recommend lossless WMA and using windows media player to rip your CD's rather than nero. As you're probably aware, next to MP3, WMA is the most commonly supported format. It's also a proprietary microsoft format and I don't see microsoft going away any day soon so the longevity of the format should be guaranteed over any other. Lossless formats take up around 50 to 75% of the original CDDA equivalent so you'll need a lot of disc space to hold 650 CD's. I've currently got around 700 CD's ripped in lossless format and they're taking up just over 270GB of disc space. You'll also need to back up your hard drive because if you have a hard drive failure, you're going to want to get your music back from your saves. I currently use 3 hard drives, a master and 2 back up drives. WAV files will take up more space than lossless WMA or FLAC files and they don't support ID3 tags so I would disuade you of using this format. They don't sound any better than lossless formats either so I don't see why anyone would waste disc space on this format. If you use windows media player to rip your collection you'll be able to set it up to automatically start ripping when you insert a CD and eject it on completion. I don't think you can do this with nero but I could be wrong. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 3:43 PM Subject: Output format tips needed: I have 650 audio disks I plan to rip to my external drive. Since I'm going to sell the disks want the sound to be of really good quality but I can't afford to make duplicates in CDA format. I'd also like to be in a position to change the format if a new one comes along that's enough better to justify it. I plan to use, Nero 7 Ultra Edition and rip to flak but I'm open to all suggestions. also, I've used Roxio products for years but I switched because the latest version of their program was less accessible than Nero. therefore, if anyone has a tutorial or general configuration tips, I'd love to hear them. Thanks in advance. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mp3 converters
is Cdex better and easier to use than window media player? - Original Message - From: Kenneth Suratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 5:01 PM Subject: Re: mp3 converters why don't you use c dex. it will save directly to mp3. - Original Message - From: GianniP46 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PCAudioList pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 2:47 AM Subject: mp3 converters Hi, What will do the best job as far as converting waves to mp3s? How do you guys feel about Sound Forge or Winamp for this process? Is one better then the other? Gian Carlo Pedulla [EMAIL PROTECTED] LETS! GO! METS! Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Getting video tapes on to computer
Vicki, you would need a video capture device and accessible software to convert it to a dvd format. you also need lots of hard drive. - Original Message - From: VICTORIA VAUGHAN [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 10:14 AM Subject: Re: Getting video tapes on to computer I would mostly mean just sound, but knowing how to do both would be nice. Thanks for any info! Vicky Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
where's the new Book Port ?
I haven't heard anything in months about the new Book Port. Wasn't it scheduled to come out this summer? Has anyone heard any recent updates? Bob Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: where's the new Book Port ?
I haven't heard anything about the Icon Braille Plus either. The only reference to it I can find is a forum where a few people seem to discuss it. Both seem to be very low profile for some reason. - Original Message - From: Bobcat [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 11:12 AM Subject: where's the new Book Port ? I haven't heard anything in months about the new Book Port. Wasn't it scheduled to come out this summer? Has anyone heard any recent updates? Bob Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bookport and other assistive technology
And what is the new Bookport supposed to do that the old one doesn't do and how's the Icon coming along? On 03/09/2007, at 1:12 AM, Bobcat wrote: I haven't heard anything in months about the new Book Port. Wasn't it scheduled to come out this summer? Has anyone heard any recent updates? Bob Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone uk 0121 288 4976 Phone/tty (+61 3) 9747 975 Fax +61 3 9743 7954 mobile/sms: +61425 777 508 Skype: callto:grtdane12 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Join the fight against spam! Have your ISP enable client/server authentication. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bookport and other assistive technology
Hi, There are a couple of minor changes but the one I do remember is that there will be a built in speaker on the new model...KG - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 10:22 AM Subject: Bookport and other assistive technology And what is the new Bookport supposed to do that the old one doesn't do and how's the Icon coming along? On 03/09/2007, at 1:12 AM, Bobcat wrote: I haven't heard anything in months about the new Book Port. Wasn't it scheduled to come out this summer? Has anyone heard any recent updates? Bob Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone uk 0121 288 4976 Phone/tty (+61 3) 9747 975 Fax +61 3 9743 7954 mobile/sms: +61425 777 508 Skype: callto:grtdane12 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Join the fight against spam! Have your ISP enable client/server authentication. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bookport and other assistive technology
Ah ok, I'm not up-to-date with Bookports or much else in that area but I have to admit to being a little surprised that such a device didn't already have an in-built speaker, ah well you learn something every day I guess smile. On 03/09/2007, at 2:31 AM, Keith Gillard wrote: Hi, There are a couple of minor changes but the one I do remember is that there will be a built in speaker on the new model...KG - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 10:22 AM Subject: Bookport and other assistive technology And what is the new Bookport supposed to do that the old one doesn't do and how's the Icon coming along? On 03/09/2007, at 1:12 AM, Bobcat wrote: I haven't heard anything in months about the new Book Port. Wasn't it scheduled to come out this summer? Has anyone heard any recent updates? Bob Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone uk 0121 288 4976 Phone/tty (+61 3) 9747 975 Fax +61 3 9743 7954 mobile/sms: +61425 777 508 Skype: callto:grtdane12 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Join the fight against spam! Have your ISP enable client/server authentication. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone uk 0121 288 4976 Phone/tty (+61 3) 9747 975 Fax +61 3 9743 7954 mobile/sms: +61425 777 508 Skype: callto:grtdane12 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Join the fight against spam! Have your ISP enable client/server authentication. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: where's the new Book Port ?
Probably not till next year. They didn't have a proto type as of last month yet. Rick -- Visit my webpage and podcast feed at: http://www.blind-geek-zone.net and my web Blog at: http://blind-geek-zone.blogspot.com/ Join the BGZ mailing list by sending a blank email message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put subscribe in the subject line. - Original Message - From: Bobcat [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 11:12 AM Subject: where's the new Book Port ? I haven't heard anything in months about the new Book Port. Wasn't it scheduled to come out this summer? Has anyone heard any recent updates? Bob Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Bookport and other assistive technology
The developer of the new B.P. says he's not looked much further ahead than the first release which won't have much more than the old unit except it will be USB2 capable, thinner, and charge its own battery. Oh yes, it's supposed to play WMA, DRM. protected files. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 9:23 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Bookport and other assistive technology And what is the new Bookport supposed to do that the old one doesn't do and how's the Icon coming along? On 03/09/2007, at 1:12 AM, Bobcat wrote: I haven't heard anything in months about the new Book Port. Wasn't it scheduled to come out this summer? Has anyone heard any recent updates? Bob Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone uk 0121 288 4976 Phone/tty (+61 3) 9747 975 Fax +61 3 9743 7954 mobile/sms: +61425 777 508 Skype: callto:grtdane12 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Join the fight against spam! Have your ISP enable client/server authentication. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Bookport and other assistive technology
This is correct. I forgot about that in my post. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keith Gillard Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 9:31 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Bookport and other assistive technology Hi, There are a couple of minor changes but the one I do remember is that there will be a built in speaker on the new model...KG - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 10:22 AM Subject: Bookport and other assistive technology And what is the new Bookport supposed to do that the old one doesn't do and how's the Icon coming along? On 03/09/2007, at 1:12 AM, Bobcat wrote: I haven't heard anything in months about the new Book Port. Wasn't it scheduled to come out this summer? Has anyone heard any recent updates? Bob Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone uk 0121 288 4976 Phone/tty (+61 3) 9747 975 Fax +61 3 9743 7954 mobile/sms: +61425 777 508 Skype: callto:grtdane12 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Join the fight against spam! Have your ISP enable client/server authentication. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Bookport and other assistive technology
Like many MP3 players, it didn't. Supposedly, the new board will allow for many enhancements but they're not telling what they might be. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 9:54 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Bookport and other assistive technology Ah ok, I'm not up-to-date with Bookports or much else in that area but I have to admit to being a little surprised that such a device didn't already have an in-built speaker, ah well you learn something every day I guess smile. On 03/09/2007, at 2:31 AM, Keith Gillard wrote: Hi, There are a couple of minor changes but the one I do remember is that there will be a built in speaker on the new model...KG - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 10:22 AM Subject: Bookport and other assistive technology And what is the new Bookport supposed to do that the old one doesn't do and how's the Icon coming along? On 03/09/2007, at 1:12 AM, Bobcat wrote: I haven't heard anything in months about the new Book Port. Wasn't it scheduled to come out this summer? Has anyone heard any recent updates? Bob Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone uk 0121 288 4976 Phone/tty (+61 3) 9747 975 Fax +61 3 9743 7954 mobile/sms: +61425 777 508 Skype: callto:grtdane12 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Join the fight against spam! Have your ISP enable client/server authentication. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone uk 0121 288 4976 Phone/tty (+61 3) 9747 975 Fax +61 3 9743 7954 mobile/sms: +61425 777 508 Skype: callto:grtdane12 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Join the fight against spam! Have your ISP enable client/server authentication. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bookport and other assistive technology
Ok, so if the Bookport wasn't USB 2.0 compatible then how did people put books or whatever onto the thing, I suppose it was USB 1.1 compatible right? Again, I know very little about these devices. Do they play Daisy books as well? On 03/09/2007, at 3:09 AM, albert griffith wrote: The developer of the new B.P. says he's not looked much further ahead than the first release which won't have much more than the old unit except it will be USB2 capable, thinner, and charge its own battery. Oh yes, it's supposed to play WMA, DRM. protected files. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 9:23 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Bookport and other assistive technology And what is the new Bookport supposed to do that the old one doesn't do and how's the Icon coming along? On 03/09/2007, at 1:12 AM, Bobcat wrote: I haven't heard anything in months about the new Book Port. Wasn't it scheduled to come out this summer? Has anyone heard any recent updates? Bob Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone uk 0121 288 4976 Phone/tty (+61 3) 9747 975 Fax +61 3 9743 7954 mobile/sms: +61425 777 508 Skype: callto:grtdane12 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Join the fight against spam! Have your ISP enable client/server authentication. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone uk 0121 288 4976 Phone/tty (+61 3) 9747 975 Fax +61 3 9743 7954 mobile/sms: +61425 777 508 Skype: callto:grtdane12 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Join the fight against spam! Have your ISP enable client/server authentication. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Output format tips needed:
i would also recomand Aac plus the file size is smaller and sounds just as good if not better then wma. lossless. - Original Message - From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 9:41 AM Subject: RE: Output format tips needed: Kevin, thanks for the Info. I'm doing quite a bit of research because the project is rather large and I can't afford to make mistakes. Once the disks are sold, I'm left with the copies, no matter the quality of the conversion. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Lloyd Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 6:31 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Output format tips needed: Hi. If you're looking to retain exact audio copies of your CD's before selling them then you'll need to use a lossless format. I'd recommend lossless WMA and using windows media player to rip your CD's rather than nero. As you're probably aware, next to MP3, WMA is the most commonly supported format. It's also a proprietary microsoft format and I don't see microsoft going away any day soon so the longevity of the format should be guaranteed over any other. Lossless formats take up around 50 to 75% of the original CDDA equivalent so you'll need a lot of disc space to hold 650 CD's. I've currently got around 700 CD's ripped in lossless format and they're taking up just over 270GB of disc space. You'll also need to back up your hard drive because if you have a hard drive failure, you're going to want to get your music back from your saves. I currently use 3 hard drives, a master and 2 back up drives. WAV files will take up more space than lossless WMA or FLAC files and they don't support ID3 tags so I would disuade you of using this format. They don't sound any better than lossless formats either so I don't see why anyone would waste disc space on this format. If you use windows media player to rip your collection you'll be able to set it up to automatically start ripping when you insert a CD and eject it on completion. I don't think you can do this with nero but I could be wrong. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 3:43 PM Subject: Output format tips needed: I have 650 audio disks I plan to rip to my external drive. Since I'm going to sell the disks want the sound to be of really good quality but I can't afford to make duplicates in CDA format. I'd also like to be in a position to change the format if a new one comes along that's enough better to justify it. I plan to use, Nero 7 Ultra Edition and rip to flak but I'm open to all suggestions. also, I've used Roxio products for years but I switched because the latest version of their program was less accessible than Nero. therefore, if anyone has a tutorial or general configuration tips, I'd love to hear them. Thanks in advance. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Output format tips needed:
I'm looking in to that format as well, thanks. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sunshine Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 10:36 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Output format tips needed: i would also recomand Aac plus the file size is smaller and sounds just as good if not better then wma. lossless. - Original Message - From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 9:41 AM Subject: RE: Output format tips needed: Kevin, thanks for the Info. I'm doing quite a bit of research because the project is rather large and I can't afford to make mistakes. Once the disks are sold, I'm left with the copies, no matter the quality of the conversion. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Lloyd Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 6:31 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Output format tips needed: Hi. If you're looking to retain exact audio copies of your CD's before selling them then you'll need to use a lossless format. I'd recommend lossless WMA and using windows media player to rip your CD's rather than nero. As you're probably aware, next to MP3, WMA is the most commonly supported format. It's also a proprietary microsoft format and I don't see microsoft going away any day soon so the longevity of the format should be guaranteed over any other. Lossless formats take up around 50 to 75% of the original CDDA equivalent so you'll need a lot of disc space to hold 650 CD's. I've currently got around 700 CD's ripped in lossless format and they're taking up just over 270GB of disc space. You'll also need to back up your hard drive because if you have a hard drive failure, you're going to want to get your music back from your saves. I currently use 3 hard drives, a master and 2 back up drives. WAV files will take up more space than lossless WMA or FLAC files and they don't support ID3 tags so I would disuade you of using this format. They don't sound any better than lossless formats either so I don't see why anyone would waste disc space on this format. If you use windows media player to rip your collection you'll be able to set it up to automatically start ripping when you insert a CD and eject it on completion. I don't think you can do this with nero but I could be wrong. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 3:43 PM Subject: Output format tips needed: I have 650 audio disks I plan to rip to my external drive. Since I'm going to sell the disks want the sound to be of really good quality but I can't afford to make duplicates in CDA format. I'd also like to be in a position to change the format if a new one comes along that's enough better to justify it. I plan to use, Nero 7 Ultra Edition and rip to flak but I'm open to all suggestions. also, I've used Roxio products for years but I switched because the latest version of their program was less accessible than Nero. therefore, if anyone has a tutorial or general configuration tips, I'd love to hear them. Thanks in advance. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Output format tips needed:
Yep, with today's cheap hard drive prices, why settle for anything less than the quality of a purchased music CD? Of course, you can then create other formats from your perfect lossless masters such as lower bitrate mp3's to play on portables where disc space is at a premium. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 2:44 PM Subject: Re: Output format tips needed: High Kevin, this is Mr. John Price. This is exactly what I do. I have Wenamp V5.35, but when I want to rip CDs, I fall back on Windows Media Player to do it. And I rip all of my Cds in the WMA lossless format. And so when I make compilation CDs, they turn out sounding like store bought Cds. Maybe the others will ketch on. - Original Message - From: Kevin Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 9:30 AM Subject: Re: Output format tips needed: Hi. If you're looking to retain exact audio copies of your CD's before selling them then you'll need to use a lossless format. I'd recommend lossless WMA and using windows media player to rip your CD's rather than nero. As you're probably aware, next to MP3, WMA is the most commonly supported format. It's also a proprietary microsoft format and I don't see microsoft going away any day soon so the longevity of the format should be guaranteed over any other. Lossless formats take up around 50 to 75% of the original CDDA equivalent so you'll need a lot of disc space to hold 650 CD's. I've currently got around 700 CD's ripped in lossless format and they're taking up just over 270GB of disc space. You'll also need to back up your hard drive because if you have a hard drive failure, you're going to want to get your music back from your saves. I currently use 3 hard drives, a master and 2 back up drives. WAV files will take up more space than lossless WMA or FLAC files and they don't support ID3 tags so I would disuade you of using this format. They don't sound any better than lossless formats either so I don't see why anyone would waste disc space on this format. If you use windows media player to rip your collection you'll be able to set it up to automatically start ripping when you insert a CD and eject it on completion. I don't think you can do this with nero but I could be wrong. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 3:43 PM Subject: Output format tips needed: I have 650 audio disks I plan to rip to my external drive. Since I'm going to sell the disks want the sound to be of really good quality but I can't afford to make duplicates in CDA format. I'd also like to be in a position to change the format if a new one comes along that's enough better to justify it. I plan to use, Nero 7 Ultra Edition and rip to flak but I'm open to all suggestions. also, I've used Roxio products for years but I switched because the latest version of their program was less accessible than Nero. therefore, if anyone has a tutorial or general configuration tips, I'd love to hear them. Thanks in advance. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.13.1/982 - Release Date: 8/31/2007 5:21 PM Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Output format tips needed:
Yep, an excellent format actually, if you want to hear how good it is then you can hear AAC+ streams at http://www.tuner2.com but I'm not sure whether its as good as a lossless format such as FLAC, as far as I'm aware AAC+ isn't a lossless format so that being the case, there's going to be some sort of sound degradation. On 03/09/2007, at 3:50 AM, albert griffith wrote: I'm looking in to that format as well, thanks. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] audio.org] On Behalf Of Sunshine Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 10:36 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Output format tips needed: i would also recomand Aac plus the file size is smaller and sounds just as good if not better then wma. lossless. - Original Message - From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 9:41 AM Subject: RE: Output format tips needed: Kevin, thanks for the Info. I'm doing quite a bit of research because the project is rather large and I can't afford to make mistakes. Once the disks are sold, I'm left with the copies, no matter the quality of the conversion. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Lloyd Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 6:31 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Output format tips needed: Hi. If you're looking to retain exact audio copies of your CD's before selling them then you'll need to use a lossless format. I'd recommend lossless WMA and using windows media player to rip your CD's rather than nero. As you're probably aware, next to MP3, WMA is the most commonly supported format. It's also a proprietary microsoft format and I don't see microsoft going away any day soon so the longevity of the format should be guaranteed over any other. Lossless formats take up around 50 to 75% of the original CDDA equivalent so you'll need a lot of disc space to hold 650 CD's. I've currently got around 700 CD's ripped in lossless format and they're taking up just over 270GB of disc space. You'll also need to back up your hard drive because if you have a hard drive failure, you're going to want to get your music back from your saves. I currently use 3 hard drives, a master and 2 back up drives. WAV files will take up more space than lossless WMA or FLAC files and they don't support ID3 tags so I would disuade you of using this format. They don't sound any better than lossless formats either so I don't see why anyone would waste disc space on this format. If you use windows media player to rip your collection you'll be able to set it up to automatically start ripping when you insert a CD and eject it on completion. I don't think you can do this with nero but I could be wrong. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 3:43 PM Subject: Output format tips needed: I have 650 audio disks I plan to rip to my external drive. Since I'm going to sell the disks want the sound to be of really good quality but I can't afford to make duplicates in CDA format. I'd also like to be in a position to change the format if a new one comes along that's enough better to justify it. I plan to use, Nero 7 Ultra Edition and rip to flak but I'm open to all suggestions. also, I've used Roxio products for years but I switched because the latest version of their program was less accessible than Nero. therefore, if anyone has a tutorial or general configuration tips, I'd love to hear them. Thanks in advance. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone uk 0121 288 4976 Phone/tty (+61 3) 9747 975 Fax +61 3 9743 7954 mobile/sms: +61425 777 508 Skype: callto:grtdane12 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Join the fight against spam! Have your ISP enable client/server authentication. Audio List Help, Guidelines,
Re: mp3 converters
Hi Mark. Both programs are accessible and easy to use. With CDEX, you insert your CD and hit either F8 to rip into WAV format or f9 to rip into mp3 format. With media player, you can either set it up to rip automatically whenever a CD is inserted or tab down to the list of tracks, check those you want to rip and then tab to the rip button and press spacebar. Makes me wonder why anyone would pay for a ripper when these two are free and fully accessible - no fiddling around trying to work out what track is selected and which isn't with these two. With regards to better, well, media player does it for me because CDEX can't rip into lossless WMA format which is my preferred format. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: mark bishop [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 3:52 PM Subject: Re: mp3 converters is Cdex better and easier to use than window media player? - Original Message - From: Kenneth Suratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 5:01 PM Subject: Re: mp3 converters why don't you use c dex. it will save directly to mp3. - Original Message - From: GianniP46 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PCAudioList pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 2:47 AM Subject: mp3 converters Hi, What will do the best job as far as converting waves to mp3s? How do you guys feel about Sound Forge or Winamp for this process? Is one better then the other? Gian Carlo Pedulla [EMAIL PROTECTED] LETS! GO! METS! Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Output format tips needed:
Point well and truly taken, Tarabyte drives are only about $500.00 here, I got one of those thrown in with the purchase of my new Imac. On 03/09/2007, at 3:54 AM, Kevin Lloyd wrote: Yep, with today's cheap hard drive prices, why settle for anything less than the quality of a purchased music CD? Of course, you can then create other formats from your perfect lossless masters such as lower bitrate mp3's to play on portables where disc space is at a premium. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 2:44 PM Subject: Re: Output format tips needed: High Kevin, this is Mr. John Price. This is exactly what I do. I have Wenamp V5.35, but when I want to rip CDs, I fall back on Windows Media Player to do it. And I rip all of my Cds in the WMA lossless format. And so when I make compilation CDs, they turn out sounding like store bought Cds. Maybe the others will ketch on. - Original Message - From: Kevin Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 9:30 AM Subject: Re: Output format tips needed: Hi. If you're looking to retain exact audio copies of your CD's before selling them then you'll need to use a lossless format. I'd recommend lossless WMA and using windows media player to rip your CD's rather than nero. As you're probably aware, next to MP3, WMA is the most commonly supported format. It's also a proprietary microsoft format and I don't see microsoft going away any day soon so the longevity of the format should be guaranteed over any other. Lossless formats take up around 50 to 75% of the original CDDA equivalent so you'll need a lot of disc space to hold 650 CD's. I've currently got around 700 CD's ripped in lossless format and they're taking up just over 270GB of disc space. You'll also need to back up your hard drive because if you have a hard drive failure, you're going to want to get your music back from your saves. I currently use 3 hard drives, a master and 2 back up drives. WAV files will take up more space than lossless WMA or FLAC files and they don't support ID3 tags so I would disuade you of using this format. They don't sound any better than lossless formats either so I don't see why anyone would waste disc space on this format. If you use windows media player to rip your collection you'll be able to set it up to automatically start ripping when you insert a CD and eject it on completion. I don't think you can do this with nero but I could be wrong. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 3:43 PM Subject: Output format tips needed: I have 650 audio disks I plan to rip to my external drive. Since I'm going to sell the disks want the sound to be of really good quality but I can't afford to make duplicates in CDA format. I'd also like to be in a position to change the format if a new one comes along that's enough better to justify it. I plan to use, Nero 7 Ultra Edition and rip to flak but I'm open to all suggestions. also, I've used Roxio products for years but I switched because the latest version of their program was less accessible than Nero. therefore, if anyone has a tutorial or general configuration tips, I'd love to hear them. Thanks in advance. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.13.1/982 - Release Date: 8/31/2007 5:21 PM Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone uk 0121 288 4976 Phone/tty (+61 3) 9747 975 Fax +61 3 9743 7954 mobile/sms: +61425 777 508 Skype: callto:grtdane12 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Join the fight against spam! Have your ISP enable client/server authentication. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL
RE: Output format tips needed:
Along with the files I have stored on my computer and an external drive, I was considering making a more permanent record with DVD disks. Any thoughts would be appreciated. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Lloyd Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 10:55 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Output format tips needed: Yep, with today's cheap hard drive prices, why settle for anything less than the quality of a purchased music CD? Of course, you can then create other formats from your perfect lossless masters such as lower bitrate mp3's to play on portables where disc space is at a premium. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 2:44 PM Subject: Re: Output format tips needed: High Kevin, this is Mr. John Price. This is exactly what I do. I have Wenamp V5.35, but when I want to rip CDs, I fall back on Windows Media Player to do it. And I rip all of my Cds in the WMA lossless format. And so when I make compilation CDs, they turn out sounding like store bought Cds. Maybe the others will ketch on. - Original Message - From: Kevin Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 9:30 AM Subject: Re: Output format tips needed: Hi. If you're looking to retain exact audio copies of your CD's before selling them then you'll need to use a lossless format. I'd recommend lossless WMA and using windows media player to rip your CD's rather than nero. As you're probably aware, next to MP3, WMA is the most commonly supported format. It's also a proprietary microsoft format and I don't see microsoft going away any day soon so the longevity of the format should be guaranteed over any other. Lossless formats take up around 50 to 75% of the original CDDA equivalent so you'll need a lot of disc space to hold 650 CD's. I've currently got around 700 CD's ripped in lossless format and they're taking up just over 270GB of disc space. You'll also need to back up your hard drive because if you have a hard drive failure, you're going to want to get your music back from your saves. I currently use 3 hard drives, a master and 2 back up drives. WAV files will take up more space than lossless WMA or FLAC files and they don't support ID3 tags so I would disuade you of using this format. They don't sound any better than lossless formats either so I don't see why anyone would waste disc space on this format. If you use windows media player to rip your collection you'll be able to set it up to automatically start ripping when you insert a CD and eject it on completion. I don't think you can do this with nero but I could be wrong. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 3:43 PM Subject: Output format tips needed: I have 650 audio disks I plan to rip to my external drive. Since I'm going to sell the disks want the sound to be of really good quality but I can't afford to make duplicates in CDA format. I'd also like to be in a position to change the format if a new one comes along that's enough better to justify it. I plan to use, Nero 7 Ultra Edition and rip to flak but I'm open to all suggestions. also, I've used Roxio products for years but I switched because the latest version of their program was less accessible than Nero. therefore, if anyone has a tutorial or general configuration tips, I'd love to hear them. Thanks in advance. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.13.1/982 - Release Date: 8/31/2007 5:21 PM Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Output format tips needed:
The have high praise for AAC on the Live 365 pages. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 10:57 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Output format tips needed: Yep, an excellent format actually, if you want to hear how good it is then you can hear AAC+ streams at http://www.tuner2.com but I'm not sure whether its as good as a lossless format such as FLAC, as far as I'm aware AAC+ isn't a lossless format so that being the case, there's going to be some sort of sound degradation. On 03/09/2007, at 3:50 AM, albert griffith wrote: I'm looking in to that format as well, thanks. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] audio.org] On Behalf Of Sunshine Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 10:36 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Output format tips needed: i would also recomand Aac plus the file size is smaller and sounds just as good if not better then wma. lossless. - Original Message - From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 9:41 AM Subject: RE: Output format tips needed: Kevin, thanks for the Info. I'm doing quite a bit of research because the project is rather large and I can't afford to make mistakes. Once the disks are sold, I'm left with the copies, no matter the quality of the conversion. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Lloyd Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 6:31 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Output format tips needed: Hi. If you're looking to retain exact audio copies of your CD's before selling them then you'll need to use a lossless format. I'd recommend lossless WMA and using windows media player to rip your CD's rather than nero. As you're probably aware, next to MP3, WMA is the most commonly supported format. It's also a proprietary microsoft format and I don't see microsoft going away any day soon so the longevity of the format should be guaranteed over any other. Lossless formats take up around 50 to 75% of the original CDDA equivalent so you'll need a lot of disc space to hold 650 CD's. I've currently got around 700 CD's ripped in lossless format and they're taking up just over 270GB of disc space. You'll also need to back up your hard drive because if you have a hard drive failure, you're going to want to get your music back from your saves. I currently use 3 hard drives, a master and 2 back up drives. WAV files will take up more space than lossless WMA or FLAC files and they don't support ID3 tags so I would disuade you of using this format. They don't sound any better than lossless formats either so I don't see why anyone would waste disc space on this format. If you use windows media player to rip your collection you'll be able to set it up to automatically start ripping when you insert a CD and eject it on completion. I don't think you can do this with nero but I could be wrong. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 3:43 PM Subject: Output format tips needed: I have 650 audio disks I plan to rip to my external drive. Since I'm going to sell the disks want the sound to be of really good quality but I can't afford to make duplicates in CDA format. I'd also like to be in a position to change the format if a new one comes along that's enough better to justify it. I plan to use, Nero 7 Ultra Edition and rip to flak but I'm open to all suggestions. also, I've used Roxio products for years but I switched because the latest version of their program was less accessible than Nero. therefore, if anyone has a tutorial or general configuration tips, I'd love to hear them. Thanks in advance. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone uk 0121 288 4976 Phone/tty (+61 3) 9747 975 Fax +61 3 9743 7954
Re: Output format tips needed:
That's a good method but if you're going to go that way then be sure to use DVD-RW discs so that the content may be updated. On 03/09/2007, at 4:00 AM, albert griffith wrote: Along with the files I have stored on my computer and an external drive, I was considering making a more permanent record with DVD disks. Any thoughts would be appreciated. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] audio.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Lloyd Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 10:55 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Output format tips needed: Yep, with today's cheap hard drive prices, why settle for anything less than the quality of a purchased music CD? Of course, you can then create other formats from your perfect lossless masters such as lower bitrate mp3's to play on portables where disc space is at a premium. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 2:44 PM Subject: Re: Output format tips needed: High Kevin, this is Mr. John Price. This is exactly what I do. I have Wenamp V5.35, but when I want to rip CDs, I fall back on Windows Media Player to do it. And I rip all of my Cds in the WMA lossless format. And so when I make compilation CDs, they turn out sounding like store bought Cds. Maybe the others will ketch on. - Original Message - From: Kevin Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 9:30 AM Subject: Re: Output format tips needed: Hi. If you're looking to retain exact audio copies of your CD's before selling them then you'll need to use a lossless format. I'd recommend lossless WMA and using windows media player to rip your CD's rather than nero. As you're probably aware, next to MP3, WMA is the most commonly supported format. It's also a proprietary microsoft format and I don't see microsoft going away any day soon so the longevity of the format should be guaranteed over any other. Lossless formats take up around 50 to 75% of the original CDDA equivalent so you'll need a lot of disc space to hold 650 CD's. I've currently got around 700 CD's ripped in lossless format and they're taking up just over 270GB of disc space. You'll also need to back up your hard drive because if you have a hard drive failure, you're going to want to get your music back from your saves. I currently use 3 hard drives, a master and 2 back up drives. WAV files will take up more space than lossless WMA or FLAC files and they don't support ID3 tags so I would disuade you of using this format. They don't sound any better than lossless formats either so I don't see why anyone would waste disc space on this format. If you use windows media player to rip your collection you'll be able to set it up to automatically start ripping when you insert a CD and eject it on completion. I don't think you can do this with nero but I could be wrong. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 3:43 PM Subject: Output format tips needed: I have 650 audio disks I plan to rip to my external drive. Since I'm going to sell the disks want the sound to be of really good quality but I can't afford to make duplicates in CDA format. I'd also like to be in a position to change the format if a new one comes along that's enough better to justify it. I plan to use, Nero 7 Ultra Edition and rip to flak but I'm open to all suggestions. also, I've used Roxio products for years but I switched because the latest version of their program was less accessible than Nero. therefore, if anyone has a tutorial or general configuration tips, I'd love to hear them. Thanks in advance. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.13.1/982 - Release Date: 8/31/2007 5:21 PM Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Dane
Re: Bookport and other assistive technology
It seems that the victor reader may be light years ahead of the bookport devices so maybe they are trying to come up with more innovative ideas. I believe the victor reader needs no transfer software, where the bookport does. - Original Message - From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 1:10 PM Subject: RE: Bookport and other assistive technology Like many MP3 players, it didn't. Supposedly, the new board will allow for many enhancements but they're not telling what they might be. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 9:54 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Bookport and other assistive technology Ah ok, I'm not up-to-date with Bookports or much else in that area but I have to admit to being a little surprised that such a device didn't already have an in-built speaker, ah well you learn something every day I guess smile. On 03/09/2007, at 2:31 AM, Keith Gillard wrote: Hi, There are a couple of minor changes but the one I do remember is that there will be a built in speaker on the new model...KG - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 10:22 AM Subject: Bookport and other assistive technology And what is the new Bookport supposed to do that the old one doesn't do and how's the Icon coming along? On 03/09/2007, at 1:12 AM, Bobcat wrote: I haven't heard anything in months about the new Book Port. Wasn't it scheduled to come out this summer? Has anyone heard any recent updates? Bob Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone uk 0121 288 4976 Phone/tty (+61 3) 9747 975 Fax +61 3 9743 7954 mobile/sms: +61425 777 508 Skype: callto:grtdane12 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Join the fight against spam! Have your ISP enable client/server authentication. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone uk 0121 288 4976 Phone/tty (+61 3) 9747 975 Fax +61 3 9743 7954 mobile/sms: +61425 777 508 Skype: callto:grtdane12 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Join the fight against spam! Have your ISP enable client/server authentication. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Output format tips needed:
Hi Albert. The praise would be high for Aac Plus on Live365 as the Aac Plus format is very good at delivering a decent sound quality at very low bitrates. This will not approach a lossless format and, if in the future you decided to go to another format, you would lose more quality in trying to convert from Aac Plus. Here's a brief summary of the messing with the sound that Aac Plus does to achieve it's goal of providing cheap internet radio: AacPlus works by combining three technologies, each of which shrinks the size of an audio signal. The first is AAC, the Advanced Audio Coding technique that Apple licensed from Dolby for iTunes. AAC analyzes the sound and throws away any data it knows human ears won't be able to hear, which is a lot. Then, aacPlus adds Spectral Band Replication, which strips out all of the music's high frequencies and replaces them with a tiny bit of analytical data. AacPlus players reconstruct the highs as a mathematical function of what's left. As a final space-saving trick, aacPlus tracks are recorded in parametric stereo. Instead of a left and a right channel, one channel is the sum of the left and right signals (L+R), and the other is their difference (L-R). This takes up less bandwidth, and the player can easily flip the two channels back to the original left and right. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 7:02 PM Subject: RE: Output format tips needed: The have high praise for AAC on the Live 365 pages. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 10:57 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Output format tips needed: Yep, an excellent format actually, if you want to hear how good it is then you can hear AAC+ streams at http://www.tuner2.com but I'm not sure whether its as good as a lossless format such as FLAC, as far as I'm aware AAC+ isn't a lossless format so that being the case, there's going to be some sort of sound degradation. On 03/09/2007, at 3:50 AM, albert griffith wrote: I'm looking in to that format as well, thanks. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] audio.org] On Behalf Of Sunshine Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 10:36 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Output format tips needed: i would also recomand Aac plus the file size is smaller and sounds just as good if not better then wma. lossless. - Original Message - From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 9:41 AM Subject: RE: Output format tips needed: Kevin, thanks for the Info. I'm doing quite a bit of research because the project is rather large and I can't afford to make mistakes. Once the disks are sold, I'm left with the copies, no matter the quality of the conversion. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Lloyd Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 6:31 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Output format tips needed: Hi. If you're looking to retain exact audio copies of your CD's before selling them then you'll need to use a lossless format. I'd recommend lossless WMA and using windows media player to rip your CD's rather than nero. As you're probably aware, next to MP3, WMA is the most commonly supported format. It's also a proprietary microsoft format and I don't see microsoft going away any day soon so the longevity of the format should be guaranteed over any other. Lossless formats take up around 50 to 75% of the original CDDA equivalent so you'll need a lot of disc space to hold 650 CD's. I've currently got around 700 CD's ripped in lossless format and they're taking up just over 270GB of disc space. You'll also need to back up your hard drive because if you have a hard drive failure, you're going to want to get your music back from your saves. I currently use 3 hard drives, a master and 2 back up drives. WAV files will take up more space than lossless WMA or FLAC files and they don't support ID3 tags so I would disuade you of using this format. They don't sound any better than lossless formats either so I don't see why anyone would waste disc space on this format. If you use windows media player to rip your collection you'll be able to set it up to automatically start ripping when you insert a CD and eject it on completion. I don't think you can do this with nero but I could be wrong. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 3:43 PM Subject: Output format tips needed: I have 650 audio disks I
Re: List address configuration:
The word bounces isn't part of the list address. It is in the return path header line and is added by the final transport system. If a message you send to the list bounces the Mailman e-mail list software keeps track of the number of bounces and after a certain number of bounces it will no longer send you messages till the bounce flag is reset. Tom ** Original Message From: albert griffith ** I'm new here and wonder how putting, bounces, in the middle of the list's address helps. thanks Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Output format tips needed:
please explain about the sound thing - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 12:57 PM Subject: Re: Output format tips needed: Yep, an excellent format actually, if you want to hear how good it is then you can hear AAC+ streams at http://www.tuner2.com but I'm not sure whether its as good as a lossless format such as FLAC, as far as I'm aware AAC+ isn't a lossless format so that being the case, there's going to be some sort of sound degradation. On 03/09/2007, at 3:50 AM, albert griffith wrote: I'm looking in to that format as well, thanks. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] audio.org] On Behalf Of Sunshine Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 10:36 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Output format tips needed: i would also recomand Aac plus the file size is smaller and sounds just as good if not better then wma. lossless. - Original Message - From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 9:41 AM Subject: RE: Output format tips needed: Kevin, thanks for the Info. I'm doing quite a bit of research because the project is rather large and I can't afford to make mistakes. Once the disks are sold, I'm left with the copies, no matter the quality of the conversion. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Lloyd Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 6:31 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Output format tips needed: Hi. If you're looking to retain exact audio copies of your CD's before selling them then you'll need to use a lossless format. I'd recommend lossless WMA and using windows media player to rip your CD's rather than nero. As you're probably aware, next to MP3, WMA is the most commonly supported format. It's also a proprietary microsoft format and I don't see microsoft going away any day soon so the longevity of the format should be guaranteed over any other. Lossless formats take up around 50 to 75% of the original CDDA equivalent so you'll need a lot of disc space to hold 650 CD's. I've currently got around 700 CD's ripped in lossless format and they're taking up just over 270GB of disc space. You'll also need to back up your hard drive because if you have a hard drive failure, you're going to want to get your music back from your saves. I currently use 3 hard drives, a master and 2 back up drives. WAV files will take up more space than lossless WMA or FLAC files and they don't support ID3 tags so I would disuade you of using this format. They don't sound any better than lossless formats either so I don't see why anyone would waste disc space on this format. If you use windows media player to rip your collection you'll be able to set it up to automatically start ripping when you insert a CD and eject it on completion. I don't think you can do this with nero but I could be wrong. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 3:43 PM Subject: Output format tips needed: I have 650 audio disks I plan to rip to my external drive. Since I'm going to sell the disks want the sound to be of really good quality but I can't afford to make duplicates in CDA format. I'd also like to be in a position to change the format if a new one comes along that's enough better to justify it. I plan to use, Nero 7 Ultra Edition and rip to flak but I'm open to all suggestions. also, I've used Roxio products for years but I switched because the latest version of their program was less accessible than Nero. therefore, if anyone has a tutorial or general configuration tips, I'd love to hear them. Thanks in advance. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone uk 0121 288 4976 Phone/tty (+61 3) 9747 975 Fax +61 3 9743 7954 mobile/sms: +61425 777 508
RE: Output format tips needed:
Hi Kevin, Thanks for the information. You've helped me eliminate an option. I'm proceeding with allot of caution because my decision will be irrevocable after I begin selling off the originals. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Lloyd Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 11:32 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Output format tips needed: Hi Albert. The praise would be high for Aac Plus on Live365 as the Aac Plus format is very good at delivering a decent sound quality at very low bitrates. This will not approach a lossless format and, if in the future you decided to go to another format, you would lose more quality in trying to convert from Aac Plus. Here's a brief summary of the messing with the sound that Aac Plus does to achieve it's goal of providing cheap internet radio: AacPlus works by combining three technologies, each of which shrinks the size of an audio signal. The first is AAC, the Advanced Audio Coding technique that Apple licensed from Dolby for iTunes. AAC analyzes the sound and throws away any data it knows human ears won't be able to hear, which is a lot. Then, aacPlus adds Spectral Band Replication, which strips out all of the music's high frequencies and replaces them with a tiny bit of analytical data. AacPlus players reconstruct the highs as a mathematical function of what's left. As a final space-saving trick, aacPlus tracks are recorded in parametric stereo. Instead of a left and a right channel, one channel is the sum of the left and right signals (L+R), and the other is their difference (L-R). This takes up less bandwidth, and the player can easily flip the two channels back to the original left and right. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 7:02 PM Subject: RE: Output format tips needed: The have high praise for AAC on the Live 365 pages. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 10:57 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Output format tips needed: Yep, an excellent format actually, if you want to hear how good it is then you can hear AAC+ streams at http://www.tuner2.com but I'm not sure whether its as good as a lossless format such as FLAC, as far as I'm aware AAC+ isn't a lossless format so that being the case, there's going to be some sort of sound degradation. On 03/09/2007, at 3:50 AM, albert griffith wrote: I'm looking in to that format as well, thanks. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] audio.org] On Behalf Of Sunshine Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 10:36 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Output format tips needed: i would also recomand Aac plus the file size is smaller and sounds just as good if not better then wma. lossless. - Original Message - From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 9:41 AM Subject: RE: Output format tips needed: Kevin, thanks for the Info. I'm doing quite a bit of research because the project is rather large and I can't afford to make mistakes. Once the disks are sold, I'm left with the copies, no matter the quality of the conversion. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Lloyd Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 6:31 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Output format tips needed: Hi. If you're looking to retain exact audio copies of your CD's before selling them then you'll need to use a lossless format. I'd recommend lossless WMA and using windows media player to rip your CD's rather than nero. As you're probably aware, next to MP3, WMA is the most commonly supported format. It's also a proprietary microsoft format and I don't see microsoft going away any day soon so the longevity of the format should be guaranteed over any other. Lossless formats take up around 50 to 75% of the original CDDA equivalent so you'll need a lot of disc space to hold 650 CD's. I've currently got around 700 CD's ripped in lossless format and they're taking up just over 270GB of disc space. You'll also need to back up your hard drive because if you have a hard drive failure, you're going to want to get your music back from your saves. I currently use 3 hard drives, a master and 2 back up drives. WAV files will take up more space than lossless WMA or FLAC files and they don't support ID3 tags so I would disuade you of using this format. They don't sound any better than lossless formats either so I don't see why anyone would waste disc space on this format. If you use windows media player to rip your collection you'll be able to set it up
Re: Never mind, got Total Recorder fixed
Sunshine, I think that is explained in the manual. I've been toying with the idea of trying it out, but it just hasn't been a priority of mine. Maybe I'll break down and experiment some time this week. At 09:24 PM 9/1/2007, you wrote: ok, another question can anyone please explain to me hot to scedual a program to record then split in total recorder? - Original Message - From: Larry Higgins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 9:17 PM Subject: Never mind, got Total Recorder fixed I swear I tried this last night, but apparently the right combination of settings weren't in play. I turned off monitoring, and that did the trick. It's good to know things are in order again. Thanks Albert for your consideration of my problem, and to all others working on this little matter that could have become quite frustrating. Larry Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: List address configuration:
Tom, thanks. Now, I just have to learn the difference between a seed and a pit and my day will be complete. I almost have the answer to that one, too. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 12:46 PM To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: Re: List address configuration: The word bounces isn't part of the list address. It is in the return path header line and is added by the final transport system. If a message you send to the list bounces the Mailman e-mail list software keeps track of the number of bounces and after a certain number of bounces it will no longer send you messages till the bounce flag is reset. Tom ** Original Message From: albert griffith ** I'm new here and wonder how putting, bounces, in the middle of the list's address helps. thanks Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Bookport and other assistive technology
You're right about that. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary G Schindler Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 11:26 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Bookport and other assistive technology It seems that the victor reader may be light years ahead of the bookport devices so maybe they are trying to come up with more innovative ideas. I believe the victor reader needs no transfer software, where the bookport does. - Original Message - From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 1:10 PM Subject: RE: Bookport and other assistive technology Like many MP3 players, it didn't. Supposedly, the new board will allow for many enhancements but they're not telling what they might be. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 9:54 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Bookport and other assistive technology Ah ok, I'm not up-to-date with Bookports or much else in that area but I have to admit to being a little surprised that such a device didn't already have an in-built speaker, ah well you learn something every day I guess smile. On 03/09/2007, at 2:31 AM, Keith Gillard wrote: Hi, There are a couple of minor changes but the one I do remember is that there will be a built in speaker on the new model...KG - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 10:22 AM Subject: Bookport and other assistive technology And what is the new Bookport supposed to do that the old one doesn't do and how's the Icon coming along? On 03/09/2007, at 1:12 AM, Bobcat wrote: I haven't heard anything in months about the new Book Port. Wasn't it scheduled to come out this summer? Has anyone heard any recent updates? Bob Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone uk 0121 288 4976 Phone/tty (+61 3) 9747 975 Fax +61 3 9743 7954 mobile/sms: +61425 777 508 Skype: callto:grtdane12 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Join the fight against spam! Have your ISP enable client/server authentication. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone uk 0121 288 4976 Phone/tty (+61 3) 9747 975 Fax +61 3 9743 7954 mobile/sms: +61425 777 508 Skype: callto:grtdane12 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Join the fight against spam! Have your ISP enable client/server authentication. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Telephone recording software
Hi all, I'm looking for a JFW friendly program to record telephone calls. Anyone know of a good inexpensive program that can do this automatically? Thanks, Jason No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.13.2/984 - Release Date: 9/2/2007 12:59 PM Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Recommendation Portable P A System
Thanks Keith, I'm looking just now. Gordon - Original Message - From: Keith Gillard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 2:42 PM Subject: Re: Recommendation Portable P A System Hi, I checked out EBay using the search term Fender passport. Found lots of hits. The 250 version new is available for around $500 US Note that there is also 500 and 150 watt systems under this model. They come with two microphones and the latest versions come with a CD player built in. You will need to purchase speaker stands separately which are also available on EBay. Cheers...Keith - Original Message - From: G. McFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 12:19 AM Subject: Re: Recommendation Portable P A System Brilliant John. Thanks again.Gordon - Original Message - From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 4:35 PM Subject: Re: Recommendation Portable P A System High once again G, I took another look at the back of my system with the help of my Dear wife. She tells me right where you plug the AC cord in to it, it has a switch whitch says 120V/240V. So baced on this, this Fender Passport-250 system will work anywhere in the world. So there is a good chance that this system will work in the UK. The radioshack one, you will need a step down transformer to use it in the UK without blowing it up. I hope this info helps you too as well John Price. - Original Message - From: G. McFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 10:45 AM Subject: Re: Recommendation Portable P A System HI Gary Thanks for your input too. This sounds good too. I'll have to do some research on these names and the voltages as I'm in the UK. Gordon - Original Message - From: Gary G Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 3:10 PM Subject: Re: Recommendation Portable P A System try one of the little radio shack 40 watt PA systems. you can run them from a car battery or 120 volt line. you may control two microphones and there is a switch for switching between phono and auxiliary inputs on the back. if you have a decent PA speaker, your in business. $100.00 is about what you would pay to entertain those nice folks. you can carry it under your arm. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This email has been verified as Virus free Virus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.13.1/982 - Release Date: 8/31/2007 5:21 PM Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This email has been verified as Virus free Virus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This email has been verified as Virus free Virus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Output format tips needed:
What sort of explanation do you want? I thought my message said everything which needed to be said. On 03/09/2007, at 8:19 AM, Sunshine wrote: please explain about the sound thing - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 12:57 PM Subject: Re: Output format tips needed: Yep, an excellent format actually, if you want to hear how good it is then you can hear AAC+ streams at http://www.tuner2.com but I'm not sure whether its as good as a lossless format such as FLAC, as far as I'm aware AAC+ isn't a lossless format so that being the case, there's going to be some sort of sound degradation. On 03/09/2007, at 3:50 AM, albert griffith wrote: I'm looking in to that format as well, thanks. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] audio.org] On Behalf Of Sunshine Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 10:36 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Output format tips needed: i would also recomand Aac plus the file size is smaller and sounds just as good if not better then wma. lossless. - Original Message - From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 9:41 AM Subject: RE: Output format tips needed: Kevin, thanks for the Info. I'm doing quite a bit of research because the project is rather large and I can't afford to make mistakes. Once the disks are sold, I'm left with the copies, no matter the quality of the conversion. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Lloyd Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 6:31 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Output format tips needed: Hi. If you're looking to retain exact audio copies of your CD's before selling them then you'll need to use a lossless format. I'd recommend lossless WMA and using windows media player to rip your CD's rather than nero. As you're probably aware, next to MP3, WMA is the most commonly supported format. It's also a proprietary microsoft format and I don't see microsoft going away any day soon so the longevity of the format should be guaranteed over any other. Lossless formats take up around 50 to 75% of the original CDDA equivalent so you'll need a lot of disc space to hold 650 CD's. I've currently got around 700 CD's ripped in lossless format and they're taking up just over 270GB of disc space. You'll also need to back up your hard drive because if you have a hard drive failure, you're going to want to get your music back from your saves. I currently use 3 hard drives, a master and 2 back up drives. WAV files will take up more space than lossless WMA or FLAC files and they don't support ID3 tags so I would disuade you of using this format. They don't sound any better than lossless formats either so I don't see why anyone would waste disc space on this format. If you use windows media player to rip your collection you'll be able to set it up to automatically start ripping when you insert a CD and eject it on completion. I don't think you can do this with nero but I could be wrong. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 3:43 PM Subject: Output format tips needed: I have 650 audio disks I plan to rip to my external drive. Since I'm going to sell the disks want the sound to be of really good quality but I can't afford to make duplicates in CDA format. I'd also like to be in a position to change the format if a new one comes along that's enough better to justify it. I plan to use, Nero 7 Ultra Edition and rip to flak but I'm open to all suggestions. also, I've used Roxio products for years but I switched because the latest version of their program was less accessible than Nero. therefore, if anyone has a tutorial or general configuration tips, I'd love to hear them. Thanks in advance. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Dane
Re: Getting video tapes on to computer
the easiest way would be if you could run a stereo y jack from the line out of your vcr to the line in on your computer sound card. ** Seen it all, done it all, can't remember most of it robert Doc Wright http://www.wrightplaceinc.net skype: talmidim msn [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: VICTORIA VAUGHAN [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 8:14 AM Subject: Re: Getting video tapes on to computer I would mostly mean just sound, but knowing how to do both would be nice. Thanks for any info! Vicky Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.13.1/981 - Release Date: 8/31/2007 6:13 AM Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RFBD: Victor Reader vs. Bookport
I've been following the discussion--(I think it was on this list)--about portable media players other than the iPod, that can play different file types. I get the impression -that the iPod cannot play the protected format used by Recording for the Blind Dyslexic in the production of its digitized audio books. I also get the impression Bookport will play these. Will Victor Reader play RFBD material as well? -Kane Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
20-20 cricket
Hi, Please keep your ears open and let us know if anyone is broadcasting 20-20 cricket world cup even locally. I would like to follow it. Thank you. Ketan Kothari MSN ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype ID: ketan Tel. No (RES.) 022-24223281 Mobile: 9833911866 Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Getting video tapes on to computer
While I've never attempted this, I believe your idea will work. There are also players specific for this task for less than $50. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of VICTORIA VAUGHAN Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 6:50 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Getting video tapes on to computer I'm sorry, I am not sure what a video capture device is. I was just thinking of doing video and audio out from the video machine to video and audio in on the computer. If this is not right, would you explain more? Thanks so much! Vicky Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RFBD: Victor Reader vs. Bookport
Hi, Are you talking about daisy? Yes both players will support Daisy as well as some other proprietary formats. hth...KG - Original Message - From: KANE BROLIN [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org; Blind iPod Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 7:52 PM Subject: RFBD: Victor Reader vs. Bookport I've been following the discussion--(I think it was on this list)--about portable media players other than the iPod, that can play different file types. I get the impression -that the iPod cannot play the protected format used by Recording for the Blind Dyslexic in the production of its digitized audio books. I also get the impression Bookport will play these. Will Victor Reader play RFBD material as well? -Kane Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RFBD: Victor Reader vs. Bookport
I believe he is based on the subject line. However, the question is somewhat artificial. NLS will have its digital audio books available next year and folks likely want a machine that can access them as well as RFB books. Unfortunately, NLS uses DAISY version 3.0 while RFB uses DAISY 2.2. The difference being is that with version 2.2 players had to be initialized and authorized to play DAISY books wile with version 3.0 the books are unlocked when they are shipped to the end user, similar to today's analog system where an end user's device needs to be individually authorized. the book Port and perhaps the older victor Readers may not be able to play the NLS books. Humanware has already introduced a next generation player and a next generation Book Port is expected within the next six months or so. the new book Port will play DAISY 3.0 books from NLS. Kelly - Original Message - From: Keith Gillard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 10:05 PM Subject: Re: RFBD: Victor Reader vs. Bookport Hi, Are you talking about daisy? Yes both players will support Daisy as well as some other proprietary formats. hth...KG - Original Message - From: KANE BROLIN [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org; Blind iPod Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 7:52 PM Subject: RFBD: Victor Reader vs. Bookport I've been following the discussion--(I think it was on this list)--about portable media players other than the iPod, that can play different file types. I get the impression -that the iPod cannot play the protected format used by Recording for the Blind Dyslexic in the production of its digitized audio books. I also get the impression Bookport will play these. Will Victor Reader play RFBD material as well? -Kane Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Recommendation Portable P A System
I bought a portable pa system from dak and it is a pretty good one. You can buy it with a rechargable battery option for about $135 shipped. It has a wireless microphone with it and you can buy an optional lapel or headset mic. It works good in a room that would hold about a hundred people. it has echo and eq adjustments, as well as places for a corded mic, a line in and a line out. all jacks are quarter inch. It is a twenty wat pa. you can get it from dak.com or call toll free 1-888-707-1897 or Order Toll Free 1-800-808-6628 I will send along the relevent page with all the info. - Original Message - From: G. McFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC-Audio Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 9:25 AM Subject: Recommendation Portable P A System Hi I'm looking for a fairly easy to use, simple, good sounding P A SYSTEM TO AMPLIFY A MICROPHONE AND PERHAPS A LINE IN DEVICE FOR A CONCERT IN AN OLD FOLKS HOME IT SHOULD BE NOT TOO BIG EASY TO CARRY AND HAVE A @GOOD@ SOUND IF ECHO COULD BE BUILT IN THAT WOULD BE A BONUS HAS ANYONE GOT ANYTHING LIKE THIS OR CAN YOU PASS ON ANY SUGGESTIONS? Thanks. Gordon McFarlane Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bookport and other assistive technology
Hi It would be a help if there was a site where we could check the latest news on the new bookport.Somewhere we could also make suggestions for features. I hope that the new bookport does include a decent speaker, the comments I have heard about the Victor Stream say it has a very poor under powered speaker. I would also like the new bookport to have variable speed and pitch control for playing of audio files on the fly. The Stream has this feature but I do not know how well it works. Russ On 9/3/07, albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're right about that. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary G Schindler Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 11:26 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Bookport and other assistive technology It seems that the victor reader may be light years ahead of the bookport devices so maybe they are trying to come up with more innovative ideas. I believe the victor reader needs no transfer software, where the bookport does. - Original Message - From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 1:10 PM Subject: RE: Bookport and other assistive technology Like many MP3 players, it didn't. Supposedly, the new board will allow for many enhancements but they're not telling what they might be. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 9:54 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Bookport and other assistive technology Ah ok, I'm not up-to-date with Bookports or much else in that area but I have to admit to being a little surprised that such a device didn't already have an in-built speaker, ah well you learn something every day I guess smile. On 03/09/2007, at 2:31 AM, Keith Gillard wrote: Hi, There are a couple of minor changes but the one I do remember is that there will be a built in speaker on the new model...KG - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 10:22 AM Subject: Bookport and other assistive technology And what is the new Bookport supposed to do that the old one doesn't do and how's the Icon coming along? On 03/09/2007, at 1:12 AM, Bobcat wrote: I haven't heard anything in months about the new Book Port. Wasn't it scheduled to come out this summer? Has anyone heard any recent updates? Bob Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone uk 0121 288 4976 Phone/tty (+61 3) 9747 975 Fax +61 3 9743 7954 mobile/sms: +61425 777 508 Skype: callto:grtdane12 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Join the fight against spam! Have your ISP enable client/server authentication. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone uk 0121 288 4976 Phone/tty (+61 3) 9747 975 Fax +61 3 9743 7954 mobile/sms: +61425 777 508 Skype: callto:grtdane12 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Join the fight against spam! Have your ISP enable client/server authentication. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Getting video tapes on to computer
You could also use a dual dvd/vhs recorder. LG makes some. - Original Message - From: Gary G Schindler To: PC Audio Discussion List Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 11:04 AM Subject: Re: Getting video tapes on to computer Vicki, you would need a video capture device and accessible software to convert it to a dvd format. you also need lots of hard drive. - Original Message - From: VICTORIA VAUGHAN [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 10:14 AM Subject: Re: Getting video tapes on to computer I would mostly mean just sound, but knowing how to do both would be nice. Thanks for any info! Vicky Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.13.2/983 - Release Date: 9/1/2007 4:20 PM Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Output format tips needed:
I don't know that Nero has Flac, but it does have Ape. - Original Message - From: Kevin Lloyd To: PC Audio Discussion List Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 9:30 AM Subject: Re: Output format tips needed: Hi. If you're looking to retain exact audio copies of your CD's before selling them then you'll need to use a lossless format. I'd recommend lossless WMA and using windows media player to rip your CD's rather than nero. As you're probably aware, next to MP3, WMA is the most commonly supported format. It's also a proprietary microsoft format and I don't see microsoft going away any day soon so the longevity of the format should be guaranteed over any other. Lossless formats take up around 50 to 75% of the original CDDA equivalent so you'll need a lot of disc space to hold 650 CD's. I've currently got around 700 CD's ripped in lossless format and they're taking up just over 270GB of disc space. You'll also need to back up your hard drive because if you have a hard drive failure, you're going to want to get your music back from your saves. I currently use 3 hard drives, a master and 2 back up drives. WAV files will take up more space than lossless WMA or FLAC files and they don't support ID3 tags so I would disuade you of using this format. They don't sound any better than lossless formats either so I don't see why anyone would waste disc space on this format. If you use windows media player to rip your collection you'll be able to set it up to automatically start ripping when you insert a CD and eject it on completion. I don't think you can do this with nero but I could be wrong. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 3:43 PM Subject: Output format tips needed: I have 650 audio disks I plan to rip to my external drive. Since I'm going to sell the disks want the sound to be of really good quality but I can't afford to make duplicates in CDA format. I'd also like to be in a position to change the format if a new one comes along that's enough better to justify it. I plan to use, Nero 7 Ultra Edition and rip to flak but I'm open to all suggestions. also, I've used Roxio products for years but I switched because the latest version of their program was less accessible than Nero. therefore, if anyone has a tutorial or general configuration tips, I'd love to hear them. Thanks in advance. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.13.2/983 - Release Date: 9/1/2007 4:20 PM Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Splitting mp3 files
The program has changed since that tutorial. Using mp3directcut, how do you merge files? Thanks. - Original Message - From: David Reynolds To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 7:34 AM Subject: RE: Splitting mp3 files Michael, Many thanks for this. I found the program you mention, but did not know about the tutorial. I'll give it a listen. Thanks again, David. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Lang Sent: 02 September 2007 02:54 To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Splitting mp3 files This can be done with MP3DirectCut. Just type the name in a Google edit box and you'll find download addresses. A great audio tutorial for the program is available here: http://musicmaker365.home.comcast.net/mp3dc_help.zip *** Michael Lang *** You wrote: Hi all, I have just recorded the contents of a cassette onto my computer. It consists of about 14 tracks, and I’d like to find a quick way of splitting it up. I vaguely remember that there is a program that will do this, but years ago. What is the most accessible program I can use. The file is mp3, Thanks in anticipation, Dave. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.13.1/982 - Release Date: 31/08/2007 17:21 Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.13.2/983 - Release Date: 01/09/2007 16:20 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.13.2/983 - Release Date: 01/09/2007 16:20 Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.13.2/983 - Release Date: 9/1/2007 4:20 PM Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Output format tips needed:
During my quest to learn as much as I could about various formats for sound files, I came across the most accessible and easy to install ripping program ever. It's called, Express rip and it's free, too. It comes bundled with a file conversion program which seems just as accessible and costs the same. This thing ripped a 60 minute disk in a couple of minutes. It supports ripping to 20 file types. I know my enthusiastic response might be a little over the top when many of you have probably heard of this little gem already. You can take a look at this and other free software at: http://www.nch.com.au/index.html Cdex is accessible but many users find it difficult to install and configure. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Petraccaro Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 9:26 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Output format tips needed: I don't know that Nero has Flac, but it does have Ape. - Original Message - From: Kevin Lloyd To: PC Audio Discussion List Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 9:30 AM Subject: Re: Output format tips needed: Hi. If you're looking to retain exact audio copies of your CD's before selling them then you'll need to use a lossless format. I'd recommend lossless WMA and using windows media player to rip your CD's rather than nero. As you're probably aware, next to MP3, WMA is the most commonly supported format. It's also a proprietary microsoft format and I don't see microsoft going away any day soon so the longevity of the format should be guaranteed over any other. Lossless formats take up around 50 to 75% of the original CDDA equivalent so you'll need a lot of disc space to hold 650 CD's. I've currently got around 700 CD's ripped in lossless format and they're taking up just over 270GB of disc space. You'll also need to back up your hard drive because if you have a hard drive failure, you're going to want to get your music back from your saves. I currently use 3 hard drives, a master and 2 back up drives. WAV files will take up more space than lossless WMA or FLAC files and they don't support ID3 tags so I would disuade you of using this format. They don't sound any better than lossless formats either so I don't see why anyone would waste disc space on this format. If you use windows media player to rip your collection you'll be able to set it up to automatically start ripping when you insert a CD and eject it on completion. I don't think you can do this with nero but I could be wrong. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 3:43 PM Subject: Output format tips needed: I have 650 audio disks I plan to rip to my external drive. Since I'm going to sell the disks want the sound to be of really good quality but I can't afford to make duplicates in CDA format. I'd also like to be in a position to change the format if a new one comes along that's enough better to justify it. I plan to use, Nero 7 Ultra Edition and rip to flak but I'm open to all suggestions. also, I've used Roxio products for years but I switched because the latest version of their program was less accessible than Nero. therefore, if anyone has a tutorial or general configuration tips, I'd love to hear them. Thanks in advance. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.13.2/983 - Release Date: 9/1/2007 4:20 PM Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Output format tips needed:
High albert, You may want to rethink that idea. In less you have a DVD player that can play dvd audio discs, burning all of your audio files on to dvd is a bad idea. You may want to stor them on eather CD or MD. It's just something to think about. John Price - Original Message - From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 2:00 PM Subject: RE: Output format tips needed: Along with the files I have stored on my computer and an external drive, I was considering making a more permanent record with DVD disks. Any thoughts would be appreciated. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Lloyd Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 10:55 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Output format tips needed: Yep, with today's cheap hard drive prices, why settle for anything less than the quality of a purchased music CD? Of course, you can then create other formats from your perfect lossless masters such as lower bitrate mp3's to play on portables where disc space is at a premium. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 2:44 PM Subject: Re: Output format tips needed: High Kevin, this is Mr. John Price. This is exactly what I do. I have Wenamp V5.35, but when I want to rip CDs, I fall back on Windows Media Player to do it. And I rip all of my Cds in the WMA lossless format. And so when I make compilation CDs, they turn out sounding like store bought Cds. Maybe the others will ketch on. - Original Message - From: Kevin Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 9:30 AM Subject: Re: Output format tips needed: Hi. If you're looking to retain exact audio copies of your CD's before selling them then you'll need to use a lossless format. I'd recommend lossless WMA and using windows media player to rip your CD's rather than nero. As you're probably aware, next to MP3, WMA is the most commonly supported format. It's also a proprietary microsoft format and I don't see microsoft going away any day soon so the longevity of the format should be guaranteed over any other. Lossless formats take up around 50 to 75% of the original CDDA equivalent so you'll need a lot of disc space to hold 650 CD's. I've currently got around 700 CD's ripped in lossless format and they're taking up just over 270GB of disc space. You'll also need to back up your hard drive because if you have a hard drive failure, you're going to want to get your music back from your saves. I currently use 3 hard drives, a master and 2 back up drives. WAV files will take up more space than lossless WMA or FLAC files and they don't support ID3 tags so I would disuade you of using this format. They don't sound any better than lossless formats either so I don't see why anyone would waste disc space on this format. If you use windows media player to rip your collection you'll be able to set it up to automatically start ripping when you insert a CD and eject it on completion. I don't think you can do this with nero but I could be wrong. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 3:43 PM Subject: Output format tips needed: I have 650 audio disks I plan to rip to my external drive. Since I'm going to sell the disks want the sound to be of really good quality but I can't afford to make duplicates in CDA format. I'd also like to be in a position to change the format if a new one comes along that's enough better to justify it. I plan to use, Nero 7 Ultra Edition and rip to flak but I'm open to all suggestions. also, I've used Roxio products for years but I switched because the latest version of their program was less accessible than Nero. therefore, if anyone has a tutorial or general configuration tips, I'd love to hear them. Thanks in advance. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.13.1/982 - Release Date: 8/31/2007 5:21 PM Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To
RE: Bookport and other assistive technology
I've assumed news would be posted to, www.aph.org. Is this not correct? If it's going to continue to be portable, the speaker can't sound better than a good cell phone. Personally, I'll purchase my own docking station if it means keeping the size down to something I can easily carry in a pocket. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Russ Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 9:30 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Bookport and other assistive technology Hi It would be a help if there was a site where we could check the latest news on the new bookport.Somewhere we could also make suggestions for features. I hope that the new bookport does include a decent speaker, the comments I have heard about the Victor Stream say it has a very poor under powered speaker. I would also like the new bookport to have variable speed and pitch control for playing of audio files on the fly. The Stream has this feature but I do not know how well it works. Russ On 9/3/07, albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're right about that. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary G Schindler Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 11:26 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Bookport and other assistive technology It seems that the victor reader may be light years ahead of the bookport devices so maybe they are trying to come up with more innovative ideas. I believe the victor reader needs no transfer software, where the bookport does. - Original Message - From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 1:10 PM Subject: RE: Bookport and other assistive technology Like many MP3 players, it didn't. Supposedly, the new board will allow for many enhancements but they're not telling what they might be. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 9:54 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Bookport and other assistive technology Ah ok, I'm not up-to-date with Bookports or much else in that area but I have to admit to being a little surprised that such a device didn't already have an in-built speaker, ah well you learn something every day I guess smile. On 03/09/2007, at 2:31 AM, Keith Gillard wrote: Hi, There are a couple of minor changes but the one I do remember is that there will be a built in speaker on the new model...KG - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 10:22 AM Subject: Bookport and other assistive technology And what is the new Bookport supposed to do that the old one doesn't do and how's the Icon coming along? On 03/09/2007, at 1:12 AM, Bobcat wrote: I haven't heard anything in months about the new Book Port. Wasn't it scheduled to come out this summer? Has anyone heard any recent updates? Bob Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone uk 0121 288 4976 Phone/tty (+61 3) 9747 975 Fax +61 3 9743 7954 mobile/sms: +61425 777 508 Skype: callto:grtdane12 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Join the fight against spam! Have your ISP enable client/server authentication. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone uk 0121 288 4976 Phone/tty (+61 3) 9747 975 Fax +61 3 9743 7954 mobile/sms: +61425 777 508 Skype: callto:grtdane12 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Join the fight against spam! Have your ISP enable client/server authentication. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help,
RE: Output format tips needed:
Are you saying DVD players won't play files with just audio in them? I thought I'd keep these disks in another location so I figured DVD disks would cut down on the number of them I'd need. I've yet to burn to one of these disks. I just became DVED capable with the purchase of this computer and Vista Home Premium. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DJ DOCTOR P Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 10:14 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Output format tips needed: High albert, You may want to rethink that idea. In less you have a DVD player that can play dvd audio discs, burning all of your audio files on to dvd is a bad idea. You may want to stor them on eather CD or MD. It's just something to think about. John Price - Original Message - From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 2:00 PM Subject: RE: Output format tips needed: Along with the files I have stored on my computer and an external drive, I was considering making a more permanent record with DVD disks. Any thoughts would be appreciated. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Lloyd Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 10:55 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Output format tips needed: Yep, with today's cheap hard drive prices, why settle for anything less than the quality of a purchased music CD? Of course, you can then create other formats from your perfect lossless masters such as lower bitrate mp3's to play on portables where disc space is at a premium. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 2:44 PM Subject: Re: Output format tips needed: High Kevin, this is Mr. John Price. This is exactly what I do. I have Wenamp V5.35, but when I want to rip CDs, I fall back on Windows Media Player to do it. And I rip all of my Cds in the WMA lossless format. And so when I make compilation CDs, they turn out sounding like store bought Cds. Maybe the others will ketch on. - Original Message - From: Kevin Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 9:30 AM Subject: Re: Output format tips needed: Hi. If you're looking to retain exact audio copies of your CD's before selling them then you'll need to use a lossless format. I'd recommend lossless WMA and using windows media player to rip your CD's rather than nero. As you're probably aware, next to MP3, WMA is the most commonly supported format. It's also a proprietary microsoft format and I don't see microsoft going away any day soon so the longevity of the format should be guaranteed over any other. Lossless formats take up around 50 to 75% of the original CDDA equivalent so you'll need a lot of disc space to hold 650 CD's. I've currently got around 700 CD's ripped in lossless format and they're taking up just over 270GB of disc space. You'll also need to back up your hard drive because if you have a hard drive failure, you're going to want to get your music back from your saves. I currently use 3 hard drives, a master and 2 back up drives. WAV files will take up more space than lossless WMA or FLAC files and they don't support ID3 tags so I would disuade you of using this format. They don't sound any better than lossless formats either so I don't see why anyone would waste disc space on this format. If you use windows media player to rip your collection you'll be able to set it up to automatically start ripping when you insert a CD and eject it on completion. I don't think you can do this with nero but I could be wrong. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 3:43 PM Subject: Output format tips needed: I have 650 audio disks I plan to rip to my external drive. Since I'm going to sell the disks want the sound to be of really good quality but I can't afford to make duplicates in CDA format. I'd also like to be in a position to change the format if a new one comes along that's enough better to justify it. I plan to use, Nero 7 Ultra Edition and rip to flak but I'm open to all suggestions. also, I've used Roxio products for years but I switched because the latest version of their program was less accessible than Nero. therefore, if anyone has a tutorial or general configuration tips, I'd love to hear them. Thanks in advance. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List
Re: Output format tips needed:
Well a couple of things here, I do it all the time for a variety of reasons. I now have a DVD player that plays DVD Discs and all audio formats I've put past it, these include FLAC, MP3 and AAC/M4A and it was quite a cheap unit too, the Pioneers should do the job. Next, I have all my CD'S on DVD'S as Cue/FLAC format, this means that I can use a ripper like EAC, Max or Easy CD DA extractor to copy a file pair and have that pair converted to an exact Audio CD of my source, convert instantly to another format such as MP3 etc so you may wish to consider this. I'm going away myself now from DVD to hhard drive, as has been mentioned before they're so damn cheap these days and the storage capacity is so good but then again, I started with DVD'S and you have to start somewhere smile. On 03/09/2007, at 3:13 PM, DJ DOCTOR P wrote: High albert, You may want to rethink that idea. In less you have a DVD player that can play dvd audio discs, burning all of your audio files on to dvd is a bad idea. You may want to stor them on eather CD or MD. It's just something to think about. John Price - Original Message - From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 2:00 PM Subject: RE: Output format tips needed: Along with the files I have stored on my computer and an external drive, I was considering making a more permanent record with DVD disks. Any thoughts would be appreciated. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] audio.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Lloyd Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 10:55 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Output format tips needed: Yep, with today's cheap hard drive prices, why settle for anything less than the quality of a purchased music CD? Of course, you can then create other formats from your perfect lossless masters such as lower bitrate mp3's to play on portables where disc space is at a premium. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 2:44 PM Subject: Re: Output format tips needed: High Kevin, this is Mr. John Price. This is exactly what I do. I have Wenamp V5.35, but when I want to rip CDs, I fall back on Windows Media Player to do it. And I rip all of my Cds in the WMA lossless format. And so when I make compilation CDs, they turn out sounding like store bought Cds. Maybe the others will ketch on. - Original Message - From: Kevin Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 9:30 AM Subject: Re: Output format tips needed: Hi. If you're looking to retain exact audio copies of your CD's before selling them then you'll need to use a lossless format. I'd recommend lossless WMA and using windows media player to rip your CD's rather than nero. As you're probably aware, next to MP3, WMA is the most commonly supported format. It's also a proprietary microsoft format and I don't see microsoft going away any day soon so the longevity of the format should be guaranteed over any other. Lossless formats take up around 50 to 75% of the original CDDA equivalent so you'll need a lot of disc space to hold 650 CD's. I've currently got around 700 CD's ripped in lossless format and they're taking up just over 270GB of disc space. You'll also need to back up your hard drive because if you have a hard drive failure, you're going to want to get your music back from your saves. I currently use 3 hard drives, a master and 2 back up drives. WAV files will take up more space than lossless WMA or FLAC files and they don't support ID3 tags so I would disuade you of using this format. They don't sound any better than lossless formats either so I don't see why anyone would waste disc space on this format. If you use windows media player to rip your collection you'll be able to set it up to automatically start ripping when you insert a CD and eject it on completion. I don't think you can do this with nero but I could be wrong. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 3:43 PM Subject: Output format tips needed: I have 650 audio disks I plan to rip to my external drive. Since I'm going to sell the disks want the sound to be of really good quality but I can't afford to make duplicates in CDA format. I'd also like to be in a position to change the format if a new one comes along that's enough better to justify it. I plan to use, Nero 7 Ultra Edition and rip to flak but I'm open to all suggestions. also, I've used Roxio products for years but I
Great sound out of small devices
As I described some time ago on this list, the audio you get out of speakers in small devices these days is utterly amazing or it can be, I talked about my LG tu-500 mobile phone which I play books on as well as making phone calls, that thing blows many bigger audio products right out of the water and the volume and lack of distortion is amazing, I think that LG are using digital amps in their phones now like so many other company's, the great thing about DA'S is that you can get more power out of them with less current when compared to conventional analog amplification. On 03/09/2007, at 3:13 PM, albert griffith wrote: I've assumed news would be posted to, www.aph.org. Is this not correct? If it's going to continue to be portable, the speaker can't sound better than a good cell phone. Personally, I'll purchase my own docking station if it means keeping the size down to something I can easily carry in a pocket. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] audio.org] On Behalf Of Russ Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 9:30 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Bookport and other assistive technology Hi It would be a help if there was a site where we could check the latest news on the new bookport.Somewhere we could also make suggestions for features. I hope that the new bookport does include a decent speaker, the comments I have heard about the Victor Stream say it has a very poor under powered speaker. I would also like the new bookport to have variable speed and pitch control for playing of audio files on the fly. The Stream has this feature but I do not know how well it works. Russ On 9/3/07, albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're right about that. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary G Schindler Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 11:26 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Bookport and other assistive technology It seems that the victor reader may be light years ahead of the bookport devices so maybe they are trying to come up with more innovative ideas. I believe the victor reader needs no transfer software, where the bookport does. - Original Message - From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 1:10 PM Subject: RE: Bookport and other assistive technology Like many MP3 players, it didn't. Supposedly, the new board will allow for many enhancements but they're not telling what they might be. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 9:54 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Bookport and other assistive technology Ah ok, I'm not up-to-date with Bookports or much else in that area but I have to admit to being a little surprised that such a device didn't already have an in-built speaker, ah well you learn something every day I guess smile. On 03/09/2007, at 2:31 AM, Keith Gillard wrote: Hi, There are a couple of minor changes but the one I do remember is that there will be a built in speaker on the new model...KG - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 10:22 AM Subject: Bookport and other assistive technology And what is the new Bookport supposed to do that the old one doesn't do and how's the Icon coming along? On 03/09/2007, at 1:12 AM, Bobcat wrote: I haven't heard anything in months about the new Book Port. Wasn't it scheduled to come out this summer? Has anyone heard any recent updates? Bob Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone uk 0121 288 4976 Phone/tty (+61 3) 9747 975 Fax +61 3 9743 7954 mobile/sms: +61425 777 508 Skype: callto:grtdane12 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Join the fight against spam! Have your ISP enable client/server authentication. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone uk 0121 288 4976 Phone/tty (+61 3) 9747 975 Fax +61 3 9743 7954 mobile/sms: +61425 777 508 Skype: callto:grtdane12 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Output format tips needed:
You've got to be careful, some players will whilst others won't, my Pioneer will and I know other people who have Pioneer DVD players who can play audio files stored on DVD'S so look around and ask a few questions. On the other hand as I said, many DVD players won't touch them, my Panasonics are prime examples, they'll only touch audio content which has been written to CD. By audio content I'm referring to MP3 or WMA, FLAC etc. On 03/09/2007, at 3:23 PM, albert griffith wrote: Are you saying DVD players won't play files with just audio in them? I thought I'd keep these disks in another location so I figured DVD disks would cut down on the number of them I'd need. I've yet to burn to one of these disks. I just became DVED capable with the purchase of this computer and Vista Home Premium. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] audio.org] On Behalf Of DJ DOCTOR P Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 10:14 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Output format tips needed: High albert, You may want to rethink that idea. In less you have a DVD player that can play dvd audio discs, burning all of your audio files on to dvd is a bad idea. You may want to stor them on eather CD or MD. It's just something to think about. John Price - Original Message - From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 2:00 PM Subject: RE: Output format tips needed: Along with the files I have stored on my computer and an external drive, I was considering making a more permanent record with DVD disks. Any thoughts would be appreciated. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Lloyd Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 10:55 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Output format tips needed: Yep, with today's cheap hard drive prices, why settle for anything less than the quality of a purchased music CD? Of course, you can then create other formats from your perfect lossless masters such as lower bitrate mp3's to play on portables where disc space is at a premium. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 2:44 PM Subject: Re: Output format tips needed: High Kevin, this is Mr. John Price. This is exactly what I do. I have Wenamp V5.35, but when I want to rip CDs, I fall back on Windows Media Player to do it. And I rip all of my Cds in the WMA lossless format. And so when I make compilation CDs, they turn out sounding like store bought Cds. Maybe the others will ketch on. - Original Message - From: Kevin Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 9:30 AM Subject: Re: Output format tips needed: Hi. If you're looking to retain exact audio copies of your CD's before selling them then you'll need to use a lossless format. I'd recommend lossless WMA and using windows media player to rip your CD's rather than nero. As you're probably aware, next to MP3, WMA is the most commonly supported format. It's also a proprietary microsoft format and I don't see microsoft going away any day soon so the longevity of the format should be guaranteed over any other. Lossless formats take up around 50 to 75% of the original CDDA equivalent so you'll need a lot of disc space to hold 650 CD's. I've currently got around 700 CD's ripped in lossless format and they're taking up just over 270GB of disc space. You'll also need to back up your hard drive because if you have a hard drive failure, you're going to want to get your music back from your saves. I currently use 3 hard drives, a master and 2 back up drives. WAV files will take up more space than lossless WMA or FLAC files and they don't support ID3 tags so I would disuade you of using this format. They don't sound any better than lossless formats either so I don't see why anyone would waste disc space on this format. If you use windows media player to rip your collection you'll be able to set it up to automatically start ripping when you insert a CD and eject it on completion. I don't think you can do this with nero but I could be wrong. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 3:43 PM Subject: Output format tips needed: I have 650 audio disks I plan to rip to my external drive. Since I'm going to sell the disks want the sound to be of really good quality but I can't afford to make duplicates in CDA format. I'd also like to be in a position to change the format if a new one comes along that's enough better to justify it. I plan to use, Nero 7 Ultra
RE: Output format tips needed:
I have a 250 gig hard drive and a 150 gig external drive. At some point, I'm going to want to add additional external drive capacity. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 10:34 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Output format tips needed: Well a couple of things here, I do it all the time for a variety of reasons. I now have a DVD player that plays DVD Discs and all audio formats I've put past it, these include FLAC, MP3 and AAC/M4A and it was quite a cheap unit too, the Pioneers should do the job. Next, I have all my CD'S on DVD'S as Cue/FLAC format, this means that I can use a ripper like EAC, Max or Easy CD DA extractor to copy a file pair and have that pair converted to an exact Audio CD of my source, convert instantly to another format such as MP3 etc so you may wish to consider this. I'm going away myself now from DVD to hhard drive, as has been mentioned before they're so damn cheap these days and the storage capacity is so good but then again, I started with DVD'S and you have to start somewhere smile. On 03/09/2007, at 3:13 PM, DJ DOCTOR P wrote: High albert, You may want to rethink that idea. In less you have a DVD player that can play dvd audio discs, burning all of your audio files on to dvd is a bad idea. You may want to stor them on eather CD or MD. It's just something to think about. John Price - Original Message - From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 2:00 PM Subject: RE: Output format tips needed: Along with the files I have stored on my computer and an external drive, I was considering making a more permanent record with DVD disks. Any thoughts would be appreciated. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] audio.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Lloyd Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 10:55 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Output format tips needed: Yep, with today's cheap hard drive prices, why settle for anything less than the quality of a purchased music CD? Of course, you can then create other formats from your perfect lossless masters such as lower bitrate mp3's to play on portables where disc space is at a premium. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 2:44 PM Subject: Re: Output format tips needed: High Kevin, this is Mr. John Price. This is exactly what I do. I have Wenamp V5.35, but when I want to rip CDs, I fall back on Windows Media Player to do it. And I rip all of my Cds in the WMA lossless format. And so when I make compilation CDs, they turn out sounding like store bought Cds. Maybe the others will ketch on. - Original Message - From: Kevin Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 9:30 AM Subject: Re: Output format tips needed: Hi. If you're looking to retain exact audio copies of your CD's before selling them then you'll need to use a lossless format. I'd recommend lossless WMA and using windows media player to rip your CD's rather than nero. As you're probably aware, next to MP3, WMA is the most commonly supported format. It's also a proprietary microsoft format and I don't see microsoft going away any day soon so the longevity of the format should be guaranteed over any other. Lossless formats take up around 50 to 75% of the original CDDA equivalent so you'll need a lot of disc space to hold 650 CD's. I've currently got around 700 CD's ripped in lossless format and they're taking up just over 270GB of disc space. You'll also need to back up your hard drive because if you have a hard drive failure, you're going to want to get your music back from your saves. I currently use 3 hard drives, a master and 2 back up drives. WAV files will take up more space than lossless WMA or FLAC files and they don't support ID3 tags so I would disuade you of using this format. They don't sound any better than lossless formats either so I don't see why anyone would waste disc space on this format. If you use windows media player to rip your collection you'll be able to set it up to automatically start ripping when you insert a CD and eject it on completion. I don't think you can do this with nero but I could be wrong. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 3:43 PM Subject: Output format tips needed: I have 650 audio disks I plan to rip to my external drive. Since I'm going to sell the disks want the sound to be of really good quality but I can't afford
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High once again Albert, Some DVD players will play mp threes off of a DVD, but not losless audio files. However, there are some DVD players out there that will playDVD audio discs,but they are on the high end price wize. But if your DVD player doesn't support audio DVDs, then your best bet is to stick with CDs. John Price - Original Message - From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 1:23 AM Subject: RE: Output format tips needed: Are you saying DVD players won't play files with just audio in them? I thought I'd keep these disks in another location so I figured DVD disks would cut down on the number of them I'd need. I've yet to burn to one of these disks. I just became DVED capable with the purchase of this computer and Vista Home Premium. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DJ DOCTOR P Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 10:14 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Output format tips needed: High albert, You may want to rethink that idea. In less you have a DVD player that can play dvd audio discs, burning all of your audio files on to dvd is a bad idea. You may want to stor them on eather CD or MD. It's just something to think about. John Price - Original Message - From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 2:00 PM Subject: RE: Output format tips needed: Along with the files I have stored on my computer and an external drive, I was considering making a more permanent record with DVD disks. Any thoughts would be appreciated. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Lloyd Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 10:55 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Output format tips needed: Yep, with today's cheap hard drive prices, why settle for anything less than the quality of a purchased music CD? Of course, you can then create other formats from your perfect lossless masters such as lower bitrate mp3's to play on portables where disc space is at a premium. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 2:44 PM Subject: Re: Output format tips needed: High Kevin, this is Mr. John Price. This is exactly what I do. I have Wenamp V5.35, but when I want to rip CDs, I fall back on Windows Media Player to do it. And I rip all of my Cds in the WMA lossless format. And so when I make compilation CDs, they turn out sounding like store bought Cds. Maybe the others will ketch on. - Original Message - From: Kevin Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 9:30 AM Subject: Re: Output format tips needed: Hi. If you're looking to retain exact audio copies of your CD's before selling them then you'll need to use a lossless format. I'd recommend lossless WMA and using windows media player to rip your CD's rather than nero. As you're probably aware, next to MP3, WMA is the most commonly supported format. It's also a proprietary microsoft format and I don't see microsoft going away any day soon so the longevity of the format should be guaranteed over any other. Lossless formats take up around 50 to 75% of the original CDDA equivalent so you'll need a lot of disc space to hold 650 CD's. I've currently got around 700 CD's ripped in lossless format and they're taking up just over 270GB of disc space. You'll also need to back up your hard drive because if you have a hard drive failure, you're going to want to get your music back from your saves. I currently use 3 hard drives, a master and 2 back up drives. WAV files will take up more space than lossless WMA or FLAC files and they don't support ID3 tags so I would disuade you of using this format. They don't sound any better than lossless formats either so I don't see why anyone would waste disc space on this format. If you use windows media player to rip your collection you'll be able to set it up to automatically start ripping when you insert a CD and eject it on completion. I don't think you can do this with nero but I could be wrong. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 3:43 PM Subject: Output format tips needed: I have 650 audio disks I plan to rip to my external drive. Since I'm going to sell the disks want the sound to be of really good quality but I can't afford to make duplicates in CDA format. I'd also like to be in a position to change the format if a new one comes along that's enough better to
