Re: zenstone versus the ipod

[Constantine]

Hi,

Might want to check this out. In particular the ep about the ipod:
http://candleshoreblog.com
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Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 5:45 PM
Subject: Re: zenstone versus the ipod



with no buttons how do you manage?
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Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 6:20 PM
Subject: Re: zenstone versus the ipod


Hi,

I have an IPhone, an IPod touch is the same thing just with no phone.

I absolutely love the thing. Its worth the bit of extra money.

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Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 8:18 AM
Subject: Re: zenstone versus the ipod



Have you tried the Ipod Touch? Is it completely accessible and worth the
cost?


Sincerely,

Lauren
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From: "Christopher Chaltain" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 9:08 AM
Subject: Re: zenstone versus the ipod



I'm not familiar with the newer models of the Zen Stone. The last one I
got was a 4G Zen Stone with External Speaker. Ray's right. It just shows
up as an external storage device, on your PC so you only need Windows
Explorer to copy music over to it. You don't need an application like
itunes.

Unless the newer Xen Stones have gotten a big larger, more sophisticated
and more expensive, they compare mor to the iPod Shuffle than the iPod
Nano. Also, the newest iPod Shuffle and iPod Nano don't use Voice Over,
like the iPhones and iPod Touch does. Instead, you can use iTunes to 
copy

over voice clips to the Shuffle or the Nano to have the menus, files and
folders spoken to you. this is similar to the way Rockbox works.



--
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Dane trethowan wrote:

Thanks for posting this, I had recommended the Zenstone in the past but
I was told that the newer models aren't accessible? I'm not sure if 
this

is true or not as I haven't seen one in a while but - supposing it is -
then an Ipod Nano - particularly one of the newer models with Voiceover
built-in - would be worth considering.

An Ipod touch maybe but they're getting rather expensive whereas a Nano
is more in the price range of a Zenstone.

You also get many of the features I recall being on the Zenstone player
such as FM radio, Memo voice recording and son on, all fully 
accessible.



On 14/10/2009, at 11:10 PM, Ray wrote:

Lauren, the Zenstone, if it's still around, is far simpler than an 
Ipod
orItouch.  The Zenstone's sound quality is good and there's not much 
of

a
learning curv either.  You can simply copy files or folders
containgcontaining
.mp3 files to the Zenstone, whereas the Apple products I am pretty
certain,
require the use of ITunes.  that's a whole steep learning curv in
itself.




Ray

Lauren wrote:
Hi,

i am in the market for a player that I can use to play and download
songs
from. I am wondering which is the most accessible for a totally blind
person,
has good memory, is easy to sue and cost? I heard the Ipod touch is
accessible, but wonder if anyone has actual experience with it?


Sincerely,

Lauren
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Re: zenstone versus the ipod

[Constantine]

Hi,

I have an IPhone, an IPod touch is the same thing just with no phone.

I absolutely love the thing. Its worth the bit of extra money.

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From: "Lauren" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 8:18 AM
Subject: Re: zenstone versus the ipod


Have you tried the Ipod Touch? Is it completely accessible and worth the 
cost?



Sincerely,

Lauren
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From: "Christopher Chaltain" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 9:08 AM
Subject: Re: zenstone versus the ipod


I'm not familiar with the newer models of the Zen Stone. The last one I 
got was a 4G Zen Stone with External Speaker. Ray's right. It just shows 
up as an external storage device, on your PC so you only need Windows 
Explorer to copy music over to it. You don't need an application like 
itunes.


Unless the newer Xen Stones have gotten a big larger, more sophisticated 
and more expensive, they compare mor to the iPod Shuffle than the iPod 
Nano. Also, the newest iPod Shuffle and iPod Nano don't use Voice Over, 
like the iPhones and iPod Touch does. Instead, you can use iTunes to copy 
over voice clips to the Shuffle or the Nano to have the menus, files and 
folders spoken to you. this is similar to the way Rockbox works.




--
Christopher
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Dane trethowan wrote:
Thanks for posting this, I had recommended the Zenstone in the past but 
I was told that the newer models aren't accessible? I'm not sure if this 
is true or not as I haven't seen one in a while but - supposing it is - 
then an Ipod Nano - particularly one of the newer models with Voiceover 
built-in - would be worth considering.


An Ipod touch maybe but they're getting rather expensive whereas a Nano 
is more in the price range of a Zenstone.


You also get many of the features I recall being on the Zenstone player 
such as FM radio, Memo voice recording and son on, all fully accessible.



On 14/10/2009, at 11:10 PM, Ray wrote:


Lauren, the Zenstone, if it's still around, is far simpler than an Ipod
orItouch.  The Zenstone's sound quality is good and there's not much of 
a
learning curv either.  You can simply copy files or folders 
containgcontaining
.mp3 files to the Zenstone, whereas the Apple products I am pretty 
certain,
require the use of ITunes.  that's a whole steep learning curv in 
itself.





Ray

Lauren wrote:
Hi,

i am in the market for a player that I can use to play and download 
songs
from. I am wondering which is the most accessible for a totally blind 
person,

has good memory, is easy to sue and cost? I heard the Ipod touch is
accessible, but wonder if anyone has actual experience with it?


Sincerely,

Lauren
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Re: zenstone versus the ipod

[Constantine]

Yep, I have an ipod video here and love it to bits.

I'll never get rid of it, and its all thanks to rockbox. *big hugs go to the 
rockbox devs!*


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To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 9:03 PM
Subject: RE: zenstone versus the ipod



I totally agree, and I've since retired my two Zen Stones in favor of a
Sansa e280 running Rockbox. However, a Zen Stone is going to be easier to
use and work right out of the box. If you're looking for the simplest and
cheapest off the shelf product to listen to music, audio books or DRM
protected files then I'd still recommend the Zen Stone, if you can find 
one.


I don't find any of this hard to do with Rockbox on the Sansa e280, but 
here

are the steps you'd have to go through to get a truly accessible portable
media player:
1) Make sure you get a v1 version of the Sansa e200 series. The v2 
versions
won't work with Rockbox. Note there are other players supported by 
Rockbox.

I also have an iRiver H20 running Rockbox. Check out rockbox.org for the
list of supported players.
2) Download and unzip Rockbox to your Sansa e200. To do this you need to
make sure the Sansa attaches to your PC as a mass storage device. You'll
also need to update the Sansa's boot loader. This is all pretty well
documented in the Rockbox documentation.
3) Download the voice file and unzip it onto your Sansa to get the menus 
to

be spoken to you.
4) Download the Voice Box utility to create audio clips for the files and
folders on your Sansa.
5) Use something like Sound Taxi to convert your DRM protected files into
MP3 files that you can play on your Sansa running Rockbox.
None of this is particularly hard, and if you do this, you'll end up with 
a
much more accessible and featured rich portable MP3 player, but it is 
going

to take a little time and a bit of work.

--
Christopher
chalt...@gmail.com




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On Behalf Of Laz Mesa
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 12:38 PM
To: Pc-audio
Subject: Re: zenstone versus the ipod

Well, I can say that I've tried the Zen Stone, which was a screenless one;
I've tried Rockbox on a Sansa; and I've tried a 4th generation iPod Nano.
IN the past, I had also tried a Samsung Pebble and a chinese-made mp3
player, both of which were screenless.  I have to say that the Rockboxed
Sansa was most impressive to me.  It definitely has more bang for the 
buck,
and I found it to be the most-accessible option for under $100.00 for 2, 
4,

6, or 8 GB, expandable memory, FM stereo, voice notes, recording from FM,
and playes many different file types, while speaking the menus and being
able to set up your folder and file names to be spoken as well.


From personal experience, i must say that the learning curve on the
iPod side seems a lot more complicated when compared to Rockbox on the 
Sansa
players.  Also with the iPods, you have to get used to using iTunes as 
well!
With the Rockboxed Sansa, all you have to do is to copy and paste your 
files

onto your player and off you go.

If you'd like to check out what a Sansa can do, you can check out a demo I
did which can be downloaded at:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/vwwyy8

You can also check out the links in my signature below for more 
information

on how to get a Sansa MP3 player for yourself at an affordable price.

Regards,

Laz
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Re: More on the new Ipod Touch

[Constantine]

Wow.

So - any apple haters have anything to say about this? Smiles.



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Subject: Re: More on the new Ipod Touch


Totally amazing, if this works as advertised!  Can anyone imagine having a 
tablet, say the size of a keyboard, that you could utilize like this?  I bet 
they come out with that, next, then musical instruments, etc., etc.,etc.! 
Kind of mind boggling!


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To: "Access L" ; "PC Audio" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 2:54 PM
Subject: Fwd: More on the new Ipod Touch


From:Dane trethowan dane.tretho...@me.com
To:  VIP L vi...@softspeak.com.au

Hi!

Here's a summary of the accessibility features and functions found on
the new Ipod Touch as taken from the Apple Web Site.


Vision
iPod touch includes a screen reader and other innovative accessibility
features that make it easier to use for those with impaired vision.
VoiceOver

The same VoiceOver screen reader made popular on the Mac and the
iPhone is now a standard feature on iPod touch (3rd generation). It’s
the world’s first gesture-based screen reader, enabling you to enjoy
the fun and simplicity of iPod touch even if you can’t see the screen.
What makes VoiceOver on iPod touch remarkable is that you control it
using simple gestures that let you physically interact with items on
the screen. It’s easy to learn and fun to use. Instead of memorizing
hundreds of keyboard commands or endlessly pressing tiny arrow keys to
find what you’re looking for, with VoiceOver you simply touch the
screen to hear a description of the item under your finger, then
gesture with a double-tap, drag, or flick.
VoiceOver delivers an experience unlike any screen reader you’ve used
before. Traditional screen readers describe individual elements on the
screen, but struggle to communicate where each element is located or
provide information about adjoining objects. This contextual
information is very important but typically filtered out by other
screen readers. For example, “off-screen” models used by traditional
screen readers to represent applications and web pages intentionally
strip away contextual information and describe web pages as a list or
menu of items. But with VoiceOver on iPod touch, you’ll experience
something entirely new.
Because VoiceOver works with the touchscreen, you interact directly
with objects on the screen and can understand their location and
context. So, when you touch the upper-left corner of the screen,
you’ll hear what’s in the upper-left corner of a web page, and as you
drag your finger around the screen, you’ll learn what’s nearby,
providing an amazing new sense of context and relationships between
the items you hear. For many, VoiceOver on iPod touch will provide,
perhaps for the first time, a true sense of not only how things appear
on the screen, but also descriptions of what they are. You’ll hear
descriptions of every item, including status information such as
battery level, Wi-Fi signal levels, and time of day. iPod touch even
lets you know when the display changes to landscape or portrait, and
when the screen is locked or unlocked.
The speaking rate is adjustable so you can set it to a speed that best
suits your listening ability. VoiceOver uses distinctive sound effects
to alert you when an application opens, when the screen is updated,
when a message dialog appears, and more. And when VoiceOver is
talking, the volume of background sounds and music is automatically
lowered, “ducking” under the voice, so you can clearly hear what
VoiceOver is telling you.

It Speaks Your Language
VoiceOver includes built-in voices that speak over 21 languages
including Bahasa Indonesian, Chinese (Cantonese), Chinese (China),
Chinese (Taiwan), Dutch, English (U.S.), English (UK), English
(Australian), Finnish, French (Canada), French (France), German,
Greek, Italian, Japanese, Korean, Norwegian, Polish, Portuguese
(Brazil), Portuguese (Portugal), Romanian, Russian, Slovak, Spanish
(Mexico), Spanish (Spain), Swedish, Thai, and Turkish.
Getting Started
VoiceOver is built into iPod touch (3rd generation). There’s nothing
extra to purchase or install. All you need is iPod touch, iTunes 9 or
later, and a Mac or PC. You can activate your iPod touch and enable
VoiceOver without sighted assistance using iTunes with a compatible
screen reader like VoiceOver (included in Mac OS X) or GW-Micro Window-
Eyes for Windows XP and Windows Vista (sold separately). When you
activate iPod touch using iTunes, you can enable VoiceOver to start
using it right away. Or a sighted user can enable VoiceO

Re: New MP3TAG Now Available

[Constantine]

That's how I have mine structured. Trying to get it to work with ITunes 
though which required they be tagged propperly.


For example I like listening to an artists progress; so instead of starting 
with a, I want it to start with the first year. (so would have to retag the 
album to something like 1992 - dirt, instead of just dirt).


Which is why I love my rockboxed Ipod video. Anyway.


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Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 7:45 AM
Subject: Re: New MP3TAG Now Available


In order to make these programs work the way you want them to, it is
sometimes necessary to restructure your storage methodology--by artist
and album rather than just by track name.  That's the good and bad
side of these utilities.

On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 10:54:10 -0500, you wrote:


A lot of time.

I have around 3 songs here that I flinch at manually editing each and
every track.

With mp3 tag, how do you batch tag songs? If I put a directory in and want
to change the artist and album of that entire directory can I?



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Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 10:46 AM
Subject: RE: New MP3TAG Now Available



Thought so.  Putting everything in by hand takes a bit of time I know.

I believe my audigen explorer also has this feature I think.



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Sent: 26 August 2009 09:17 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: New MP3TAG Now Available

That's perfectly OK, Andre, but you surely wouldn't do that for hundreds,
thousands, tens of thousands of files.  An automated procedure is much
better and less work-intensive.

On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 18:24:20 +0200, you wrote:


Why should one want to use a mp3 tag programme?

I can change the tags under properties in windows explorer by simply
pressing the backspace and typing the relevant info.  Or are we not
talking about the same thing?

Andre



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Subject: Re: New MP3TAG Now Available

I'm just curious: is this mp3 tag program as easy to use as Winamp's
tag program?  Now, I have never tagged but have wanted to, so I really
don't know anything about Winamp's tagging feature either.  Thanks lots!

Kathy

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Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 6:02 AM
Subject: New MP3TAG Now Available


| For those who tag, a new version of MP3TAG is now available from
| http://download.mp3tag.de.  The file download link is
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| http://www.mp3tag.de/en/changelog.html.
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Re: Talks question

[Constantine]

I've generally heard that talks outperforms mobile speak on any simbion 
phone.




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Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 4:00 PM
Subject: Re: Talks question



Thats really funny since talks out performs Moble speak on my E71 and N95.

Before you start it, I know they are two different platforms and i suspect
that my two units have a lot more horse power then that ozone unit.

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To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 9:09 AM
Subject: RE: Talks question


Hi Chris,

You may have a point here.  I guess the reason I thought this was that
Talks seemed, when I compared the functions to Mobile Speaks, to be very
sluggish.  Also there didn't seem to be the same application access.  I
used Talks 2 different times for about 15 days each.  And again it may
be how each software package was written, and the platform they are
written for.

I have found out recently that AT&T is selling Mobile Speaks for the
$89.00 that you mentioned.  I would be very curious to find out if it is
the fully functioning MSS and whether the license can be transferred to
other devices.

Have a good day.

Tim

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[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 6:52 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Talks question

Why do you say the Talks that Verizon sells is not the full working
version?
What are you comparing it to? I believe it's the only Talks sold for the
Windows Mobile platform, so I think it is the fully working version.

Just as Code Factory has different products for the Symbian, Windows
Mobile and Pocket PC platforms, Nuance has different products for the
Symbian and now Windows Mobile platform. I think people need to be
careful when talking about Talks that they're clear to specify the
Symbian versus Windows Mobile version.

I'm also not sure why you're saying Verizon is getting away with
anything selling Talks for $99. AT&T sells Mobile Speak for $89, and I
think that's the same product you'd get from Code Factory for quite a
bit more. I suspect the price is more the result of a deal made between
Nuance and Verizon or AT&T and code Factory than it is the fact that a
stripped down version of the screen reader is being sold.

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Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:48 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: RE: Talks question

Hi Lauren,

I think the version of Talks Verizon sells for the $99.00 would work for
most functions, but it is not the full working version.  That is
probably why they get away with selling it for the price they do.

Mobile Speaks does not work at this time for the Black Berry phones, but
it does work quite well with the Ozone, that is the phone I have.

You might talk to Verizon and they may let you have the good price on
the Ozone, I believe it was $49.00 with a 2 year contract.  If you can
afford it, I would get the Ozone without speech, and then you can
purchase Mobile Speaks.  I realize it is pricy, but you can transfer the
software to other Smart phones in the future should you decide at some
point to get another phone.  Of course, you can only run the software on
1 phone at a time, but when you need to, the transfer is quite simple.

Also, you get a fully functional 30-day trial before you have to
purchase, which allows you some time to acquire the funds.  The company
that I purchased my Mobile Speaks from has a 6 or 12 month purchase
plan.  They do charge a small fee for this, but it makes things a little
easier if you can't get the money at once.

You are able to access the Internet fine from this phone.  You do
however, need to have good cell service in the area in which you live.
You can set the phone up to retrieve your Internet E-mail, and it is not
difficult to read texts or E-mails.  I wouldn't use a phone as my main
source for surfing the net, but the feature is there should one need it.

Any other questions are welcomed.

Sincerely,
Tim Martin

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Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:35 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Talks question


Hi Tim,

Thanks for the info. Verizon sells the Ozone with Talks preloaded, but I
can't find out if it is a limited or fully functioning version. If I
choose it, do you know if I can navigate every

Re: Talks question

[Constantine]

Heh. That's nothing. In Canada talks (sim version) is like 520 bucks, 
whereas its about 395 for people in the US. I'm fairly mad about that, 
actually.




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To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 3:48 AM
Subject: Re: Talks question



Hi Gary,

Thanks for the info; I think I will purchase the Mobile Speaks because 
according to Humanware, the Orator will cost $450 and to pay that just for 
a Blackbury device, and not one that will work with other phones, is too 
prohibitive for me. I couldn't believe the cost; they must think all blind 
people are rich!


Thank you for your and others' invaluable advice.


Sincerely,

Lauren
- Original Message - 
From: "Gary King" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 5:32 PM
Subject: Re: Talks question



Lauren,

From reading through the text version of the manual that Verizon posted
online, it seems to be a fully functional version of Talks for Windows 
Mobile, and it would probably do everything you want, including text 
messaging, email and Internet.  However, if you look at the answer to 
question 3 on the Answers page that I sent the link for, you will hear 
the word "nontransferable" in the answer about the cost.  This makes me 
think that the $99 price is just for a Talks license for this phone and 
cannot be transferred to another phone later.


Mobile Speaks has a higher initial cost, but it can be transferred to a 
new phone when a better one comes along.


If you have the Blackberry Tour 9630, you can wait for Orator for 
Blackberry to be released by Humanware.  They say it will be released 
soon, but they don't say when, and they don't give a price.  They say it 
will support all of the core Blackberry applications.  This is the only 
Blackberry model they mention specifically in the information on their 
web site.


Gary King
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- Original Message - 
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To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:34 AM
Subject: Re: Talks question




Hi Tim,

Thanks for the info. Verizon sells the Ozone with Talks preloaded, but I 
can't find out if it is a limited or fully functioning version. If I 
choose it, do you know if I can navigate everything myself like 
accessing menus, email, internet and texting? Use of the internet would 
really be great for me!


The Talks cost $99; the Mobile Speaks, does it allow you to do 
everything and would it work on a Blackbury? I think I mad the mistake 
of buying a Blackbury Tour with Vlingo, but am discovering it won't let 
me access what I need. Verizon will let me trade to another phone 
without any penalty because of my disability.


Please advise and thanks to Gary also for his very helpful link.

Sincerely,

Lauren
- Original Message - 
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To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:38 AM
Subject: RE: Talks question



Good morning List,

Here is the promised information.

A few months ago I started hearing talk of a Smart Phone that was fully
accessible to blind people.  This phone was from Verizon and contained
the Talks program.  The phone was a Motorola Q-9C and with the speech
program cost $249 with a 2 year contract.  According to Verizon, the
Moto phone was the only one they offered that would do this.  Of course
I was eager to have a phone that would allow me complete access to all
it had to offer.  I was currently using the Env 2 and I could read and
compose text messages, but as far as simple things like setting an 
alarm

or leaving myself a note, and many other things, it just wouldn't
happen.

I purchased the phone and found it to work fairly well, but it had a 
few

issues.  It came with Pocket Word that wasn't accessible with the Talks
program.  This left me a bit frustrated because I wanted full use of 
all

the features of this phone, and so I began to inquire of other types of
phones and different speech programs.  Through my searching, I
discovered that the Talks program Verizon sells and on the Moto phone
was not the fully functioning version of the program.

I was able to return the Moto Q to Verizon for a full refund after
hearing of a program called:  Mobile Speaks.  This program can be used
on Smart Phones running Windows Mobile along with Pocket PC's.  It 
works
with several different service providers and costs about $300.00.  I 
was

able to purchase the Moto Q-9C from an individual and used the Mobile
Speaks program for a 30-day trial to make sure I liked all it had to
offer.  This program works great, and I'm able to use features on a
different new phone I've purchased which is called the Ozon

Re: nero 7 or 8

[Constantine]

Hmm never used show time. When it opened an mp3 file though I found it 
tedius. Other than that nero 8 rocked for me. So did 7, though.




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Subject: Re: nero 7 or 8


I own Nero 8 ultra and really like it and find it generally accessible. 
Nero Showtime for watching DVDs is very accessible as it appears to be 
almost identical to Power DVD. Ripping CDs is also very accessible and 
yields great results. Rick harmon has lots of pretty good podcasts on Nero 
6 through 8.

http://www.blind-geek-zone.net/audio.htm
Don't know about Nero 9.

Matthew

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Hi. What's the more accessoble version of nero burning rom with Jaws 10. 
Eight or nine. Thanks, Joe.

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Re: New MP3TAG Now Available

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A lot of time.

I have around 3 songs here that I flinch at manually editing each and 
every track.


With mp3 tag, how do you batch tag songs? If I put a directory in and want 
to change the artist and album of that entire directory can I?




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Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 10:46 AM
Subject: RE: New MP3TAG Now Available



Thought so.  Putting everything in by hand takes a bit of time I know.

I believe my audigen explorer also has this feature I think.



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Sent: 26 August 2009 09:17 AM
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Subject: Re: New MP3TAG Now Available

That's perfectly OK, Andre, but you surely wouldn't do that for hundreds,
thousands, tens of thousands of files.  An automated procedure is much
better and less work-intensive.

On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 18:24:20 +0200, you wrote:


Why should one want to use a mp3 tag programme?

I can change the tags under properties in windows explorer by simply
pressing the backspace and typing the relevant info.  Or are we not
talking about the same thing?

Andre



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Subject: Re: New MP3TAG Now Available

I'm just curious: is this mp3 tag program as easy to use as Winamp's
tag program?  Now, I have never tagged but have wanted to, so I really
don't know anything about Winamp's tagging feature either.  Thanks lots!

Kathy

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To: "pc-audio" 
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Subject: New MP3TAG Now Available


| For those who tag, a new version of MP3TAG is now available from
| http://download.mp3tag.de.  The file download link is
| http://download.mp3tag.de/mp3tagv244setup.exe and the changes are at
| http://www.mp3tag.de/en/changelog.html.
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Re: Good and accessible id3 tag editor

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www.mp3tag.com



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Subject: Good and accessible id3 tag editor



Hello.
I'm looking for good id3 tag editor because i got lots of files where i 
have
to set all the correct id3 tags and i'd like to do it automatically for 
each

folder so that i don't have to type everything manually. , Any
recommendation would be very much appreciated.

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Re: Friends I'd like to ask a question about online radio

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New site for mikes place is
http://www.listenlive.eu



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Subject: Re: Friends I'd like to ask a question about online radio



http://radiotime.com
also
http://mikesradioworld.com

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Subject: Re: Friends I'd like to ask a question about online radio



Links to stations that are music, news, sports etc.

richard claypool wrote:

do you mean like as in news or links to stations?

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Friends, and fellow pc audio lovers and listeners,
is there a site devoted to say, Canadian only radio or european radio 
only? or american Radio?

I'd like to have a look at those sites, if that's not too much to ask?
Thanks. Randy.


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Re: Problem

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Agree, uninstal any sapi five voice and it screws everything up.



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Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 9:10 PM
Subject: RE: Problem



I'll tell you that Window's is a pain in the neck when it comes to SAPI 5.
It doesn't like recognizing it.  You should call Microsoft and ask their
assistance.

Katherine

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Subject: Problem

Hi Friends,

I have a problem.  I have installed all the Realspeak Solo voices on my
laptop and I am able to use them but they are not recognized by the SAPI5
synthesizer.  This is necessary as I want to use them with VRsoft reader.
How do I get them recognized by SAPI5?  Please help.  Thank you.
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Re: strange issue with SBLive sound card

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Odd, my sb live here works flawlessly and I actually find it to be one of my 
best cards in terms of stario mix.




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Subject: Re: strange issue with SBLive sound card


   Nope.  It's not a plug issue.  It appears to be in issue coming from 
the input as we record off the Stereo mixer on the sound card.  There's no 
problem whatsoever with the output. initially.
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Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 3:13 PM
Subject: Re: strange issue with SBLive sound card


Sounds like a plug might not be inserted all the way.  If you partially 
pull out a stereo plug (especially the 1/8 in.  mini type)  you'll very 
often get the effect you discribe.


B B

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Re: Recommendation on scanners.

[Constantine]

Have a canin Li De35 here.
Works beautiful, nice and portable.



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Subject: RE: Recommendation on scanners.



I love my UMAX scanner.  My photographer friends swear by them for the high
resolution which also helps us with very small print scanning.
Peter

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Subject: Recommendation on scanners.

hello PC-Audio:

I am trying to decide on scanner which I have no  knowledge about so I am
hoping the list can help me and any help is appreciated very much .

I am using XP Pro and Window-eyes version 6.1 and OPen Book version
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Re: ITunes Questions

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Hi,

If you can grab one, get a used ipod video. I have a 30 gb here and I love 
it, and it would probably be cheaper than going with a new apple product, 
anyway;and you'd get way, way more available space on it. Also it can have 
rockbox put on it, which rocks.



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Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 12:02 AM
Subject: Re: ITunes Questions


I think you might have more luck with this question on a list specifically 
for iTunes and the iPod. I usually send people to the Portable Player 
Portal at http://www.hartgen.org/blindipod.html, but that site doesn't 
appear to  be up right now. You can try sending a message to 
blindipod-requ...@freelists.org  with the word "subscribe" in the subject 
line.



Dan Kerstetter wrote:

Sorry, but I haven't gotten that far yet.  I not so much interested in
ordering music or anything, but I want to use an iPod and such.

Dan



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Hi Dan; Have you actually managed to use *I tunes?* If you have, can you 
take a few moments, and list the proceedure  on the I Tunes site? Just 
list the icons or whatever, to download music after one has registtere 
TXS fi you


can and I'll understand if you can't txs again; Ken B
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To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 2:55 PM
Subject: ITunes Questions




Is this program worth using as a player?  If so, how can I get songs to
display so I can add them to a playlist and do whatever else I'm 
supposed to
be able to do with it.  My first attempt at creating a new playlist was 
a

real bummer.



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Re: Converting from victor stream to wav or mp3

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Have no idea. Why not just use stream companion;much easier and things.



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Subject: Converting from victor stream to wav or mp3



Hi list:

I understand a program called switch will convert these recorded victor
stream files to wav or mp3 format.  is this true and can someone explain 
how

this is done?  Thanks!

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resetting ipod shuffle?

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Hi,

I'm attempting to put songs on someones Ipod Shuffle 2nd gen. The computer 
keeps saying USB device not recognized. So, I tried connecting it to a wall 
charger for a little while; no go. I've also tried going to device manager and 
disabling "power USB if not in use, etc" and still nothing - restarted various 
times. Finally I downloaded and installed the ipod reset utility. Thing is, I 
have no idea how to use it, it says to click on the reset button, well its not 
letting me do that. 

any ideas?
Thanks



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.mkv files?

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Hi,

I was wondering what exactly an mkv file is and if there's a free program out 
there for converting it to avi or mp3 or some such so it can be put on a dvd?
I know its some sort of video format - but I've never heard of it before. 

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Re: CD Ripping Software?

[Constantine]

CD EX is also good, not sure what the orriginal topic was but yeah, always 
works for me. Easy to use. Tiny little program.




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Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 10:00 PM
Subject: Re: CD Ripping Software?


Hi and thanks for the suggestion. One question though. How do I know when 
I'm in the drive combo box. Neither of my screen readers is speaking it 
and I can't recall how many times I tabbed to get to that combo box.


Thanks again for the help.

Larry

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To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 11:07 PM
Subject: Re: CD Ripping Software?



ok, this is what you need to do.
open up easy cd da extracter.
   now tab to your drive combo box.
and choose the  drive you want to use
now  do alt f and enter on retrieve.
this will retrieve the cd titles. for the cd you want to rip.
now if you have choosen your  file format you can now do  f 8 to start
ripping the cd.
let me know if this works for you.

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Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 4:59 PM
Subject: Re: CD Ripping Software?


Hi. Actually 2 things are happening here. What I'm doing is to right 
click
on the drive where my CD is waiting to be ripped. Easy CD DA Extractor 
comes
up, but it doesn't show my tracks. In fact, it shows nothing except for 
all
empty fields. I can find nothing to indicate which drive has focus for 
the
program and trying each drive yields the same results. Just out of 
curiosity

I pressed F8 to begin the rip, but nothing happens. No error shows
whatsoever. The program appears to be waiting for me to do something, but 
I
can't see what that might be. Of course it's possible, even likely that 
I'm

missing something here, which is why I wrote to the developer. But as I
said, he has not responded.

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Re: Streaming Audio to a Non-Networked Device

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Soundcard in mine rocks. I like it.


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On Wed, 6 May 2009 06:59:03 -0600, you wrote:

Why not just get a netbook? If you get one with a wireless adaptor you 
would only need run a stereo y jack from it to your entertainment center.


That's a definite possibility, they're so cheap!  Anybody know how
good the sound card in them is?  Some are very noisy and crackly.

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Re: winamp

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Hi,

Yes and yes.
Http://www.winamp.com



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Hi,

does anyone know the best place to get the latest version of winamp?

is the latest version compatible with jaws v10?

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Re: Streaming Audio to a Non-Networked Device

[Constantine]

Why not get a netbook? You could just plug a cable from that into your audio 
center.
Netbooks cost anywhere from 300 to 400 dollars. I highly recommend the asus 
lineup. I might add here that if you need to do simple line in recording, 
the microphone jack works good with that, surprisingly.
I personally own the asus 900 ha, but its getting a bit old;if your looking 
for battery life (I'm guessing your not, but anyway) there's a new 1000 he 
out there that has a wapping 9.5 hours battery life, comes with wireless and 
bluetooth and costs 330 bucks.


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Subject: Streaming Audio to a Non-Networked Device



I'm always after a better solution to my same old problem of streaming
Internet audio to a non-Internet device, such as my living-room
entertainment center, or my bedside radio.  I'm so disgusted with the
FM transmitter thing because of all the metal studs in my walls, I'm
once again looking at something I can use with my wireless router, put
it anywhere, and plug it up to an audio device as described above.  A
Media Center PC might be a good alternative, but are they under $500
yet?  The $500 price point is based on the price of a rather
interesting piece of gear from Logitech that will do the job and even
allow direct access to one's own media library, but of course it's
hopelessly inaccessible by a totally blind person.  The Media Center
PC, however, could be made accessible simply by installing a
screenreader on it, even if it's Narrator or one of the free ones out
there--we're not doing rocket science projects on it, we're just
picking music and playing it, so it won't matter how good the
screenreader is or isn't.  Like I said, even Narrator'll do for this
purpose!  And for your five portraits of Mr. Franklin, you get a real
computer to boot!

Has anybody had any experience with any of these streaming products
like the Logitech one?  Or is it your considered opinion to go the PC
or cheap Mac route?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: sorry my mistake/was Re: CNET reviews the Victor Reader Stream

[Constantine]

Agreed. At least its getting a bit of mainstream attention - it deserves it, 
too.



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Hi Rick and listers,

I'm really sorry, I sent the link to the list before I checked it out 
myself.  There is a video file there which has a guy describing the 
Stream, so it's not a review per se.  Bad thing is that I had to have a 
sighted person use a mouse to start the video playing.  So, sorry about 
the mix-up.  Nice for the Stream to get some mainstream exposure, though.


Thanks,
Norma


At 06:53 PM 4/30/2009, you wrote:

There isn't any actual review there.

Rick

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Re: Why winamp?

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Shrug I might give it a try, but I'll probably always use winamp.



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Let me know where to download? Please?
Also, since I am, like you were, a winamp user so, how if  foobar2000 that 
much better? Library? etc.


Curtis Delzer.
HS

At 04:50 PM 11/10/2008, you wrote:

Hi,
This thread enspired me to try Foobar2000, and I have to say I absolutely 
love it! I have all my plugins in Foobar from Winamp, and have even 
replaced some of them with custom-built Foobar ones which are much better. 
An example would the SoundTouch plugin. I also have my broadcasting 
plugin, EdCast, configured in Foobar now too. After using Winamp for about 
3 years, I never thought anything would be better, but Foobar2000 is much 
better for me and it is being updated all the time. So, I will say to 
people who think Winamp is the best thing since sliced bread, give the 
Foobar2000 0.96 Beta4 a try and see what you think, I think you will be 
greatly impressed.

On Monday, November 10, 2008 at 08:46 PM (GMT), Richard Claypool wrote:
I think that fuber does handle winamp plugins, so I would say that there's
really not much of a reason to leave for winamp.  the library, at least
under jaws, doesn't work correctly in later versions.  if you have a large
musical collection, it can take many many many many megs of ram.  mine, 
with

around 20k plus songs, takes up around 45 megs of ram.

[stopped]
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To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 5:09 AM
Subject: Re: Why winamp?


> Hi Anders,

> Regarding Winamp the installation is extremely flexible so you can
> install as many or as few features as you want and need so Winamp
> doesn't have to take up a lot of space.  I like Winamp because I like
> experimenting with some of the DSP/Effect plug-ins available for 
> Winamp.

> I don't have Hal so I don't know how well the Winamp library works with
> Hal.  Another reason I like to use Winamp is because of the excellent
> Window-Eyes scripts now available for Winamp.  However if Foobar 2000
> meets all of your needs you might like to keep using it.  So you have a
> lot of options.

> Regards Steve.

> From: Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se
> To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org

> Actually i have been using foobar2000 for 4 years now.
> However from the beginning it was a really neat and great player.
> Though many functions i had in my first version of foobar2000 has been
> removed.
> For example, you now have to create your own hotkeys for play stop etc.
> Now to my question.
> Most people seems to use winamp and seems to be very satisfied with it.
> But it seems to take up a lot of space though.
> Now in the latest version of hal you can use winamp much more flexible
> than
> before.
> The screenreader has got new map files and scripts.
> So i am thinking to start using winamp again after 4 years.
> There is a streamripper plugin also for winamp.
> But why should i use winamp?
> More than what i've stated above.
> Can the library feature be used?
> Such as the shoutcast radio functionality i had in older versions of
> winamp.

> Regards Steve
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Re: nero and vista.

[Constantine]

Probably the ones that say system requirements windows xp or vista. 
*giggles*.
In all seriousness, I'd think starting from 7.0 or 8.0 should work. Not sure 
if there's a 7.5, but if there is maybe start there.
I can personally say nero 8 works great on xp, and it probably supports 
vista since it was released around the same time as vista to begin with.




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hi list can any one tell me if Nero 6 will work with vista? if it does not 
can any one suggest witch version will work with vista.

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Re: Nero 5.5

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Hi,

What is being talked about and what you are talking about are two completely 
different things. I might add here that jaws 10 already comes with scripts 
for itunes - and your paying half of the price of an ipod nano 8 gb (or 
more) to make a free peace of software accessible. 70 pounds = around 140 
canadian dollars.

I've said enough on that already.


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Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 7:18 PM
Subject: Re: Nero 5.5


Let me check my mistake; I'm referring to j tunes which is a supposed 
software which will apparently make down loadingbetter for us re buying 
music pieces.  TXS for any comments; Ken B
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Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: Nero 5.5


Say Chriss;  have you ever heard of a software called, *jtune* 
Apparently
it really helps anyone to get around the *I think it's * etunes or 
something

like it;  Sorry for bad discription; Ken B
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Subject: Re: Nero 5.5



Gary it should be on the CD somewhere. Ask for sighted help.

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Subject: Nero 5.5



Hi All.  For some reason, I had to reinstall Nero 5.5, but somehow, I
don't remember my serial number.  If someone still uses Nero 5.5, could
someone please relay the information?
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Re: aw Wanda, I love you baby, we're gonna get married, on a Saturdaynight!

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Just curious but who exactly is this person trying to pretend to be and why?



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Hi Bruce,

Thanks for bringing this out in the open.  That guy is really a freaking
basket case isn't he?  This nut harasses me all the time offlist.  Maybe 
the

owner can get rid of him?

Rick

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Subject: Re: aw Wanda, I love you baby, we're gonna get married, on a
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Maheen, will you stop it already? You're fooling no one.

Bruce

On Thu, 23 Apr 2009, ronald Glaser wrote:


chris a Gilland said the following to you!
a wacka wacka wow wow wacka wacka wow wow wacka wacka wo wo wacka wacka
wow wow!!!
my son Ron, is my housewife!
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Re: guess what folks! wow! today, I found out that Ronald Glaser's bottox fell under the mailbox!

[Constantine]

Well, ain't that strange? I hope your banned from here, idiot!



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bottox fell under the mailbox!



Well! ain't that a strange? Ronald Glaser who's a cowboy, who rides on the 
range each and everyday of the week, booped his buttox and fell under the 
mail box! now ain't that, drange? Ronald Glaser sure knows how to raade 
and a raade and a raade on the range and to take showers while sittin' on 
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bitta country! oh, and did I mention Ronald Glaser has cramberry juice in 
his kitch de de kitch de de kitchen while smoking weed? Wow!!! And I have 
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Re: aw Wanda, I love you baby, we're gonna get married, on a Saturday night!

[Constantine]

Die. Get banned. Thanks.



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Re: User accounts, hardware profiles, and Jaws

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Well, I'm not too sure. It would probably be more trouble than its worth, 
honestly. Besides, if you have up to date antivirus and malware  removing 
programs you should be fine.




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Subject: User accounts, hardware profiles, and Jaws



User accounts, hardware profiles, and Jaws:
I just read in the help section of User Accounts in control panel that one 
should not use there own computer as administrator.  It is safer to surf 
the net with a lower privilege account.  Makes sense to me.  Now.  How 
much trouble will this be if I set up a user account for my self?  I am 
the only person that uses this computer.  Can different accounts start up 
with different hardware profiles?  How does this effect Jaws and logging 
on to my computer?Can I set up one account/hardware combination system for 
casual use such as surfing the Internet and another optimised for 
multy-channel audio, VST/DXI plugins,  and MIDI that would have no network 
and only services needed for the task?


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Re: Updating the VictorStream.

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I have no idea - enough for the update, I guess?


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Subject: Re: Updating the VictorStream.



How much memory is on the Victor Stream?

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Re: Updating the VictorStream.

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Hi,

The stream will automatically delete the update file off the card when its 
completed.




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Hi:

I have a really stupid question! I no that I must copy the update file 
onto the SD card and put it in and let the stream do its thing, but do I 
need to put the update file on a new card when I switch SD cards? Can I 
delete the update file off the card after the update installs? Because I 
know with the NLS authorization, that needs to be put on each card, right? 
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Re: Dumb Question

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Actually, not true. I just recorded a radio station that didn't use 
shoutcast and it worked.




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Subject: Re: Dumb Question


it's not tied to winamp, but what I'm saying is that it only captures 
shoutcast streams.


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Subject: Re: Dumb Question



not really there is a regular windows version that is not tied to winamp
which i can send to  anyone
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Subject: Re: Dumb Question


that will only work for winamp.

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Subject: Re: Dumb Question


I use a little freebee called Stream Ripper for Winamp.  After you 
install

it, it always comes up when you start Winamp but it isn't running--just
ready for you.  You first get the stream started and then use your screen
reader's systray access.  You'll find stream ripper for winamp in the 
list.

Just do a single right click on it.  You'll get a pop up list and it is
very easy to use.  It just has start ripping, stop ripping and exit.  It
also has a settings or maybe its called options that you can use to 
select

the destination folder to put the ripped files into (called output
directory)  You can also select never overwrite partial which I would
select because if the stream is interrupted it will overwrite what you
already have when it resumes.  With this checked, it just keeps making
separate files so you'll have a recording of everything you heard.  Hope
this helps.

B B

Roger




Kris Hickerson wrote:

Hi All,

Ok, I know most of you do this all the time, but I have never had the
need to record streaming audio before.  What program is best to use, 
and

do you start recording and then bring up your stream or exactly what do
you do first so as not to miss any part of the audio but not record a
bumch of meaningless stuff you don't want.

I'm sure this is not at all difficult, and I know it seems pretty
elementary to most of you.  I suppose through trial and error I could
figure it out, but I think some one who has done this could save me a 
lot
of time.  I never seem to have enough time at the computer to do all 
the

things I want anyway.

Thanks for your help.

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Re: Messages Getting Through?

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Hi,

Came through just fine here.



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Subject: Messages Getting Through?



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Re: JAWS Compatible Music Sharing Programs

[Constantine]

Works fine here, have installed it on 3 of my computers and it works 
fine...just make sure it doesn't update itself.



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Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 10:55 PM
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Yes, the same version. What I'm saying is that it doesn't appear to work
properly when installed on a new computer.

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I have the same  version of bear share.  Did you get it off JFWlite?  I
just used it yesterday and it work fine.- Original Message -
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Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 3:23 PM
Subject: RE: JAWS Compatible Music Sharing Programs



Hmmm, could possibly be a network problem with Bear share. This
connection problem only occurred when another blind friend of mine
installed it onto a newly-reformatted Del computer, which had gone
from Vista to XP. It works fine for me, but after I installed it on a
computer which I primarily use for work, I had the same connection
issues. I'm thinking that either Bear Share is having network
problems, or 5.2.5 no longer works for new installs.
- Original Message -
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To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 3:15 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS Compatible Music Sharing Programs



I am using jaws 7.0 XP pro and I have no problems with bear share
- Original Message -
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To: 
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 9:41 AM
Subject: JAWS Compatible Music Sharing Programs



Hi all,
   I was hoping someone here could be of some assistance. For the
past several years, I've been using Bear Share Lite 5.2.5. Its been
incredibly reliable and user friendly. However, I'm now running into



a problem, in that it will no longer connect to the Gnutella

Network.



I'm thinking this could be a compatibility issue with the firewall
settings in certain versions of XP. I've turned off the firewall and



checked Bear share as an exception, all to no avail. I'm beginning
to



think 5.2.5 is no longer supported. Has anyone run into this

problem?

   If this continues, I'm looking at another easy-to-use sharing
program. I'm not looking for Torrents, mind you, just a program to
download individual tracks. Are there any suggestions? do scripts
exists for versions of Bear share later than 5.2.5? I'm currently
running JAWS 10.0.
   Thanks.
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Re: JAWS Compatible Music Sharing Programs

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Yeah, bear share works fine even with later versions. Mind you you need to 
use the jaws cursor, but its ten times easier to use than kaza (which 
probably has more spyware than you can shake a stick at by now anyway), and 
win mx which is pretty much obsolete, and finally lime wire, well, we won't 
even go there - you can get it to work, but its hit and miss, and more hit 
than miss in most cases. Besides, it uses the same network as bear share, so 
your getting the same content, anyway.


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To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 3:15 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS Compatible Music Sharing Programs



I am using jaws 7.0 XP pro and I have no problems with bear share
- Original Message - 
From: "Donovan Tildesley" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 9:41 AM
Subject: JAWS Compatible Music Sharing Programs



Hi all,
   I was hoping someone here could be of some assistance. For the past
several years, I've been using Bear Share Lite 5.2.5. Its been
incredibly reliable and user friendly. However, I'm now running into a
problem, in that it will no longer connect to the Gnutella Network. I'm
thinking this could be a compatibility issue with the firewall settings
in certain versions of XP. I've turned off the firewall and checked Bear
share as an exception, all to no avail. I'm beginning to think 5.2.5 is
no longer supported. Has anyone run into this problem?
   If this continues, I'm looking at another easy-to-use sharing
program. I'm not looking for Torrents, mind you, just a program to
download individual tracks. Are there any suggestions? do scripts exists
for versions of Bear share later than 5.2.5? I'm currently running JAWS
10.0.
   Thanks.
   Donovan
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Re: Skype 4.0 with screen readers

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The problem comes when you want to accept a file transfer or see how much 
time a file has left. Also I have a few other gripes about it, I recommend 
sticking with 3.8, as skype 4.0 only bungles 3.8 and doesn't add much more.



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Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 8:02 AM
Subject: Re: Skype 4.0 with screen readers



Hello.  I have limited experience using Skype, but have experimented
with this increasingly over the last few months.

I use Skype 4.0 with JFW 10 and have found that with the third party
scripts it is simple to modify settings, to search for and add
contacts, etc.  I have also found that this is quite doable when I
choose to use refreshable Braille exclusively as my method of reading
the screen.

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Re: microphone problems

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Windows live is finicky to get anything working..


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Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 7:55 AM
Subject: RE: microphone problems


Yes I can here it fine when I go and record something but it doesn't work 
at

all with windows live.

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1. What is it doing.
2. Is the volume turned up?

Questions like this should probably include what you did to try and solve
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Subject: RE: microphone problems



Hey I bot a mike and can't get it working with windows live can someone
help?

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I put in a new set of batteries.  Still no go
- Original Message - 
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Subject: Re: microphone problems



Sorry but did you charge the microphone or inserted a new set of
batteries?

--
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From: "Michael Amaro" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 6:39 PM
Subject: microphone problems


Hello listers,
I can't get my microphone to work on my laptop.  I bought My mic at
RadioShack.  It is one of those that takes batteries.  I have all ready
gone
in to the recording control dialog and turned up the volume on the
Microphone.  Also on the line in.  I Have played around with the play
back
option.  To know avale.  Every time I go in to sound recorder to try and
make a file, nothing happens.  When I try to play it back no sound.  I 
am

running windows XP pro and jaws on my laptop.  Can some one please help?
Thanks
Michael
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Re: microphone problems

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1. What is it doing.
2. Is the volume turned up?

Questions like this should probably include what you did to try and solve 
the problem, otherwise we can't help much.



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To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 5:37 PM
Subject: RE: microphone problems



Hey I bot a mike and can't get it working with windows live can someone
help?

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I put in a new set of batteries.  Still no go
- Original Message - 
From: "Chris Hallsworth" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 1:20 PM
Subject: Re: microphone problems



Sorry but did you charge the microphone or inserted a new set of
batteries?

--
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- Original Message - 
From: "Michael Amaro" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 6:39 PM
Subject: microphone problems


Hello listers,
I can't get my microphone to work on my laptop.  I bought My mic at
RadioShack.  It is one of those that takes batteries.  I have all ready
gone
in to the recording control dialog and turned up the volume on the
Microphone.  Also on the line in.  I Have played around with the play 
back

option.  To know avale.  Every time I go in to sound recorder to try and
make a file, nothing happens.  When I try to play it back no sound.  I am
running windows XP pro and jaws on my laptop.  Can some one please help?
Thanks
Michael
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Re: mp3 to cd

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Hi,

The standard windows media player will work.
Copy and paste all your files into your d drive.
Select them all, hit alft f, go to write to cd and hit next, then go to 
audio, and hit finish. Now let windows media player open, tab to burn, and 
then tab to start burn. Your done.



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Subject: mp3 to cd


How do I get mp3 files on to a cd in cd audio format?  What programs will 
I need?



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Re: The First Screen Reader for BlackBerryR Smartphones

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But compared to some screen readers - MobileSpeak comes to mind here, its a 
bit cheaper.



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Form what I understood in the interview I heard the other day  it is in 
the works to have this offered as a package with some cell carriers.


At 10:25 AM 3/21/2009, you wrote:

Wow, I figured it wouldn't be very cheap. It will be a while before I
can afford that. I assume that doesn't include the price of the phone?


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Anyone heard how much they plan to charge for this little gem?

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ORATOR FOR BLACKBERRYR SMARTPHONES

[This announcement is displayed in text only for accessibility with
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With The CSUN 24th Annual International Technology and Persons with
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BlackBerryR smartphone is a popular and an indispensible communication
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solutions for customers, including customers with disabilities,
BlackBerryR smartphones have remained inaccessible to the blindness
community, until now. Introducing Orator for BlackBerryR smartphones,
the first screen reader that empowers blind and visually impaired
customers to access and experience BlackBerryR smartphones.

Come visit us at the HumanWare booth 247 for a personal demonstration
and to enter your name to win 1 of 3 packages of Orator for BlackBerryR
smartphones with a new BlackBerryR smartphone.

If you are interested in learning more on the Orator for BlackBerryR
smartphones solution, be sure to attend the product presentation.

Orator for BlackBerryR Smartphones: blind access solution for
BlackBerryR smartphones

When: Wednesday, March 18, 2009
Time: 1h50 PM to 2h50 PM
Where: New York room at the Marriott
Speakers: Greg Fields, Accessibility Product Manager, Research In Motion
(RIM)
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Attendees of this session will learn more about Orator for BlackBerryR
smartphones and get a sneak preview of how the Orator for BlackBerryR
smartphones enables blind and visually impaired customers to remain in
touch with important information, people, family and friends while on
the go.

For those not able to attend this presentation, be sure to visit the
HumanWare booth in the exhibit hall at booth 247 during the following
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Re: creative zen stone

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Hi

Ok, first off:
http://www.rockbox.org
Rockbox doesn't support this player, and why should it, as it only has a few 
simple functions - please read up on said website before posting.

Secondly, scripts for what? JFW lite is outdated.
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I have a creative zen stone 2 GB model.  Is there anyway of making it talk 
with rockbox?  The scripts of creative lite don't seem to work with JFW 10. 
Help will be welcome.  Thank you.

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Re: Apple Releases New Ipod

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Yeah, but the fact that an actual popular company is doing this, without us 
having to instal alternate firmware - that's a step in the right direction. 
Might not be a revolution, but it sure beats what most companies are doing, 
and we don't have to use rockbox if we don't want to - but I like 
rockbox..lol.


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Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 8:32 PM
Subject: Re: Apple Releases New Ipod


Well, I agree it's a good development, but I wouldn't say what Apple is 
doing is revolutionary. Remember Rock box has used this technology for 
years. I installed rockbox on my first portable media player in 2007 and 
using talking clips to speak the menus, folders and file names wasn't new 
then. Right now I have Rockbox  running on a 30G iRiver, and I'm using 
Samantha or Jill for my voice. It's one of those voices that came with JFW 
8. Again, don't get me wrong, this is a great development, and I encourage 
Apple to continue down this path, but their claims of the first talking 
portable media player are distorted and the technology they're using isn't 
revolutionary.


Constantine wrote:
Still, though, even if speach isn't built in, and even if you have to use 
ms sam, your still getting speech - which is quite a revolution. And 
unless my ipod video's hard drive fails, it will be lasting a long time 
to come- the only thing I might even replace would be the battery.

I really want an 80 gb ipod video, though.



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I couldn't find the story at that URL either, so I used Google and found 
the following URL http://www.apple.com/ipodshuffle/features.html. 
Following the link labeled "Learn more about VoiceOver" also lead to 
information on how this works, which BTW, seems to be the same way it 
works on the iPod Nano.


Ray wrote:
And OK, I might be a thicko, likely I am, but I couldn't really find 
the
story that goes with this post on the Lioncourt site.  Could some one 
spell

it out a bit to me, please?

I'm certainly not a detractor from all things Apple, even if they 
still,
after seeing the accessability light, still get some things woefully 
wrong!


Ray.

Joy Tilton wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but, I got the picture that most of the 
controls

are on the ear buds that come with this device.  If so, that's a show
stopper right there and right now, especially for some of us who can't 
wear

ear buds or prefer the old fashioned type head sets.

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Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 7:56 PM
Subject: Re: Apple Releases New Ipod



Yep, well could this be the beginning of Daisy books and son on found 
on

an Ipod?


On 12/03/2009, at 8:01 AM, Gary King wrote:



It sounds like a nice little player.  It wasn't made clear in the
article how the text -to-speech is implemented though, whether it is
built-in or transferred.

I also followed the link to the press release and found a link to 
some

interesting facts about lithium-polymer batteries, charging  cycles,
running time and lifespan.

Gary King
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Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 11:11 AM
Subject: Apple Releases New Ipod




Hi!

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this

may be worth the look, its a new Ipod shuffle with "Text-To- Speech"
capabilities.

http://www.lioncourt.com/


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Re: Apple Releases New Ipod

[Constantine]

Still, though, even if speach isn't built in, and even if you have to use ms 
sam, your still getting speech - which is quite a revolution. And unless my 
ipod video's hard drive fails, it will be lasting a long time to come- the 
only thing I might even replace would be the battery.

I really want an 80 gb ipod video, though.



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Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: Apple Releases New Ipod


I couldn't find the story at that URL either, so I used Google and found 
the following URL http://www.apple.com/ipodshuffle/features.html. Following 
the link labeled "Learn more about VoiceOver" also lead to information on 
how this works, which BTW, seems to be the same way it works on the iPod 
Nano.


Ray wrote:

And OK, I might be a thicko, likely I am, but I couldn't really find the
story that goes with this post on the Lioncourt site.  Could some one 
spell

it out a bit to me, please?

I'm certainly not a detractor from all things Apple, even if they still,
after seeing the accessability light, still get some things woefully 
wrong!


Ray.

Joy Tilton wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but, I got the picture that most of the controls
are on the ear buds that come with this device.  If so, that's a show
stopper right there and right now, especially for some of us who can't 
wear

ear buds or prefer the old fashioned type head sets.

- Original Message -
From: "Dane Trethowan" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 7:56 PM
Subject: Re: Apple Releases New Ipod



Yep, well could this be the beginning of Daisy books and son on found 
on

an Ipod?


On 12/03/2009, at 8:01 AM, Gary King wrote:



It sounds like a nice little player.  It wasn't made clear in the
article how the text -to-speech is implemented though, whether it is
built-in or transferred.

I also followed the link to the press release and found a link to  some
interesting facts about lithium-polymer batteries, charging  cycles,
running time and lifespan.

Gary King
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- Original Message -

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To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 11:11 AM
Subject: Apple Releases New Ipod




Hi!

Well for those who are thinking of buying a new music player then 
this

may be worth the look, its a new Ipod shuffle with "Text-To- Speech"
capabilities.

http://www.lioncourt.com/


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Re: Apple Releases New Ipod

[Constantine]

Woo, man, I love apple now. Too bad there 80 gb players still don't have 
tts...



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Ok, well I've just checked this out and Apple will supply an adapter  for 
those who wish to use other headphones as they should, best get  some 
facts in before the nasty pasty's try to spread a few false  rumours 
around .



On 13/03/2009, at 1:54 PM, Constantine wrote:

Yeah, not exactly a big selling point. What if you lose them. I bet  it 
costs like 30 bucks just to replace those - sort of like macbooks  - 
totally overpriced. Mind you, its good quality.



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Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: Apple Releases New Ipod


Correct me if I'm wrong, but, I got the picture that most of the 
controls are on the ear buds that come with this device.  If so,  that's 
a show stopper right there and right now, especially for  some of us who 
can't wear ear buds or prefer the old fashioned type  head sets.


- Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" 

>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 7:56 PM
Subject: Re: Apple Releases New Ipod


Yep, well could this be the beginning of Daisy books and son on  found 
on an Ipod?



On 12/03/2009, at 8:01 AM, Gary King wrote:

It sounds like a nice little player.  It wasn't made clear in the 
article how the text -to-speech is implemented though, whether it  is 
built-in or transferred.


I also followed the link to the press release and found a link  to 
some interesting facts about lithium-polymer batteries,  charging 
cycles, running time and lifespan.


Gary King
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- Original Message -

From: "Dane Trethowan" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 11:11 AM
Subject: Apple Releases New Ipod



Hi!

Well for those who are thinking of buying a new music player  then 
this may be worth the look, its a new Ipod shuffle with  "Text-To- 
Speech" capabilities.


http://www.lioncourt.com/


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Re: Apple Releases New Ipod

[Constantine]

Yeah, not exactly a big selling point. What if you lose them. I bet it costs 
like 30 bucks just to replace those - sort of like macbooks - totally 
overpriced. Mind you, its good quality.



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To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: Apple Releases New Ipod


Correct me if I'm wrong, but, I got the picture that most of the controls 
are on the ear buds that come with this device.  If so, that's a show 
stopper right there and right now, especially for some of us who can't 
wear ear buds or prefer the old fashioned type head sets.


- Original Message - 
From: "Dane Trethowan" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 7:56 PM
Subject: Re: Apple Releases New Ipod


Yep, well could this be the beginning of Daisy books and son on found  on 
an Ipod?



On 12/03/2009, at 8:01 AM, Gary King wrote:

It sounds like a nice little player.  It wasn't made clear in the 
article how the text -to-speech is implemented though, whether it is 
built-in or transferred.


I also followed the link to the press release and found a link to  some 
interesting facts about lithium-polymer batteries, charging  cycles, 
running time and lifespan.


Gary King
w4...@bellsouth.net
- Original Message -

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To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 11:11 AM
Subject: Apple Releases New Ipod



Hi!

Well for those who are thinking of buying a new music player then  this 
may be worth the look, its a new Ipod shuffle with "Text-To- Speech" 
capabilities.


http://www.lioncourt.com/


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Re: The saga continues . . . Re: What you hear optionnot available onasus netbook

[Constantine]

Yes. Btw, google brings up several answers for that question.


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Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 12:18 PM
Subject: RE: The saga continues . . . Re: What you hear optionnot available 
onasus netbook





Is anyone using this netbook with Skype?
Judy


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Subject: Re: The saga continues . . . Re: What you hear optionnot 
available

on asus netbook

Hi.  There's a podcast about the Asus Netbook on the BCT website but the
dude is most definitely nont from te UK I can tell ya that much!
The direct link to the mp3 is
http://media.libsyn.com/media/bct/bct1313AsusNetbook.mp3
 or do a search for Asus netbook and you should be able to find it.

Thanks.


At 06:24 PM 3/8/2009, you wrote:

Maybe blind cool tech?

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To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 4:15 PM
Subject: Re: The saga continues . . . Re: What you hear option not
available on asus netbook


Hi Kathy and all,

ther is a pod cast somewhere of a fine fellow I think from the UK where
he reviews the Axux 900x.  The pod cast is amazing in that he had
several things going including JAWS, something called Tank Commander
and I think Goldwave while he was recording everything through his
onboard mics.  Does anyone know where that pod cast is?

John

At 03:20 PM 3/8/2009, you wrote:
>Okay, gang. So I've installed Total recorder on my Asus computer, and
>from what I can tell, there appears to be no What you hear option,
>and I'm guessing it's because of the sound card the Asus uses.  I've
>also installed a demo version of VAC which is utterly and totally beyond

my understanding!

>Lol!  So, can anyone in Geekland please help me see if I can set up
>VAC to be able to record, either through Total recorder or Studio
>Recorder, both mike and sound card output at the same time?  Seems so
>simple, but I guess it just isn't.  Many thanks in advance.
>
>Peace,
>Kathy
>
>
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Re: What you hear option not available on asus netbook

[Constantine]

Erm, you might want to google that. There's lots of info.
Obviously jaws works fine with it or I wouldn't love it, would I?
I paid 300 dollars for it.



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To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 12:22 PM
Subject: RE: What you hear option not available on asus netbook



Hey how musch did you pay for your computer and does it work great with
jaws.

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On Behalf Of Kathy Szinnyey
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 5:54 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: What you hear option not available on asus netbook

Hi, gang!  I just purchased a lovely Asus netbook computer and notice it
doesn't have the What You Hear feature.  There are times I would love to 
be
able to talk while playing music during an on-the-road live365 show. 
Short

of buying a mixer or having to play music and then go back and add voice
recording, which sounds pretty tedious and un-spontaneous to me, is there
any software or anything I can do to emulate that what-you-hear feature? 
I
use Studio Recorder at this moment for my reording program.  Any help 
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be much appreciated!

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Re: What you hear option not available on asus netbook

[Constantine]

Your actually mistaken there, smile.
The feature is called stario mix, and you'll find it under audio settings. 
You'll have to go to properties by hitting alt p, and you'll have to go to 
the recording radio button, check stario mix.
It can be called stario mix, what you hear, wave out. I have 5 computers. 4 
out of those five have stario mix, the other one is something called record 
master.




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To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 7:54 AM
Subject: What you hear option not available on asus netbook



Hi, gang!  I just purchased a lovely Asus netbook computer and notice it
doesn't have the What You Hear feature.  There are times I would love to 
be
able to talk while playing music during an on-the-road live365 show. 
Short

of buying a mixer or having to play music and then go back and add voice
recording, which sounds pretty tedious and un-spontaneous to me, is there
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I
use Studio Recorder at this moment for my reording program.  Any help 
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Re: What you hear option not available on asus netbook

[Constantine]

Actually it does have it on most netbooks, since they use realtech cards - 
and yes, there quite good. For the price, anyway.



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Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 10:28 AM
Subject: RE: What you hear option not available on asus netbook



Yes, many sound cards, like the one you have in that netbook, don't have
that functionality. To get around this you usually can install VAC,
which is Virtual Audio Cable. I had this problem with a stream server
that is run on a virtual machine with a SB16 sound card emulated. That
SB16 doesn't have the what you hear capability but adding Virtual Audio
Cable fixed that.
Frank Ventura, MCP


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[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Kathy Szinnyey
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 8:54 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: What you hear option not available on asus netbook

Hi, gang!  I just purchased a lovely Asus netbook computer and notice it

doesn't have the What You Hear feature.  There are times I would love to
be
able to talk while playing music during an on-the-road live365 show.
Short
of buying a mixer or having to play music and then go back and add voice

recording, which sounds pretty tedious and un-spontaneous to me, is
there
any software or anything I can do to emulate that what-you-hear feature?
I
use Studio Recorder at this moment for my reording program.  Any help
would
be much appreciated!

Peace,
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Re: The New Netbooks

[Constantine]

For, for what 99 percent of people do with these things, it is. Its better 
than some full sized laptops that use AC97 audio.




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To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 2:33 AM
Subject: Re: The New Netbooks


The review of the Asus Netbook sounded like it had excellent audio 
quality!
- Original Message - 
From: "David Tanner" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 12:57 AM
Subject: Re: The New Netbooks


I won't go so far as to say that all are using RealTech audio software, 
but I have seen MSP, Samsung, and the Dell Mini 9; which all seem to be 
using the same audio software.  This seems to limit your options for audio 
input, but is probably sufficient for what most people want to do with 
these systems.  On the other hand, my guess is that if you want to do any 
kind of serious recording you will want a separate external soundcard and 
better audio software.


Remember that a netbook is going to cost about the same as what many 
folks would pay for a good quality diggital recorder.  So, don't expect 
studio quality recordings with the standard hardware.




This message was composed on a MSI Wind netbook.

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To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 3:08 PM
Subject: RE: The New Netbooks




Does anyone know about the audio drivers and chip set?
Judy


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I am using aser netbook, it is very suitable for the blind. I have no
problem with the keyboard,nevertheless i use an external keyboard when 
at

home.  regards mano
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Re: net books with jaws.

[Constantine]

Ok...I'm just going to clerify some things here.

1. This list, as the mod said, is for discussing _audio_ only topics.
2. Some people aren't using google. Googling netbook, jaws - or some other 
variation would be your first start.
3. Why are you replying to another message and changing the subject all 
together? This makes the archives, if any, harder to navigate.
4. Of course jaws will work with these netbooks, as most of them come with 
windows xp home.
5. In response to Kens message, I think the acer lineup come with iether a 
120 or 160 gb hard drive. There might be solid state configurations but I'm 
not positive and have yet to see one. Mind you, I recommend the asus eee 
lineup over anything.



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Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 6:34 PM
Subject: net books with jaws.


What net book works great with jaws with no problems

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Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 2:58 PM
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Subject: Re: The New Netbooks

Hello Larry and anyone who owns an Acer Aspire1 *xp* Does any one know
wether or not I'm running just the *8 gig* sd card?  or do I also have a
hard drive on this baby help would bemuch needed here; Ken B in Toronto
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Cc: "GW Micro" 
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: The New Netbooks


Hi Mano. I would echo your thoughts completely. I've had no problems with
our Aser when using it with a screen reader. I too use a full size keyboard
when I can, but that's just personal preference. The Aser keyboard works
fine as well. We use the Netbook for Internet, email and streeaming audio.
No complaints.

Larry


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Subject: Re: The New Netbooks



I am using aser netbook, it is very suitable for the blind. I have no
problem with the keyboard,nevertheless i use an external keyboard when at
home.  regards mano
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Subject: The New Netbooks



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Re: The New Netbooks

[Constantine]

You can iether get one with a solid state drive - meaning it has no moving 
components - in 8 gb and 16 gb capacities. Then comes the hard drives with 
120 gb and 160 gb at 5400 rpm, respectively.




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Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 1:31 AM
Subject: Re: The New Netbooks


Anders!  How many gigs of memory does the harddrive have?
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Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 2:21 PM
Subject: SV: The New Netbooks


Hello!
Actually i have an asus eee pc.
Its quit good i think.
It starts very fast.
About 20 seconds from pressing the start button to the windows startup
sound.
It also has a quit good audio card.
/Anders.

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Hi All!  I'm wondering if anyone has yet tried using the new netbook
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Re: The New Netbooks

[Constantine]

Hi

The asus eee pc line has some good netbooks too. In particular, the 900 ha, 
with wireless on, skype and windows live open and doing things, and using 
speedswitch xp and eee super hybrid engine, I get about 4.5 hours on a 
charge. with skype shut down, wireless off, I average 5.5-6 hours. This is 
with a 4 cell battery and it can varry greatly. The acer line of netbooks is 
worse off in battery, the 3 cell getting at most 2 hours - and that's 
pushing it.


The keyboard on this thing is pretty nice too - it takes some getting used 
to but honestly, its worth it.



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From: "David Tanner" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 9:02 PM
Subject: Re: The New Netbooks


Let me make a few comments here.  I have used the MSI, HP MiniNote, the 
Samsung NC10, and the Dell Mini 9.  First let me say that I was totally 
disappointed by the Dell Mini 9.  The keyboard is too small, keys are 
crammed together, and a number of important keys are missing or have been 
moved.  The keyboard has not functionkey roe, and only has the ability to 
get functionkeys F1 thru F10.   Finally, the Dell has the same processor 
as the other units, but ran much slower and boots much slower.


The Samsung has a very nice keyboard, and is quite easy to type on at a 
rather fast pace.  The speaker sounds good considering the size of the 
unit, and works well even with software such as Kurzweil1000 and Openbook 
with a Canon Lide 200 flatbed scanner.  About the only complaint I could 
find was that the button to turn the unit on and off was on the side of 
the unit where a person could easily accidently press the button and turn 
the unit on or off without intending to do so.  The most fantastic thing 
about the Samsung is that with the great battery management software in 
the unit it gets around 7 hours of use on a charge.  That is a fantastic 
time for any laptop, and I have heard of no other netbook that can even 
come close to running as long on a charge.


The HP MiniNote I used was very nice, and had fantastic sound for its' 
size. The HP MiniNotes have very nice keyboards and are easy to type on. 
But, battery life per charge seemed to stay just over 4 hours per charge.


I baught a MSI Wind in December and absolutely love it.  I think the only 
minus is that the speakers are under the unit and do not sound as good as 
some of the other units because of their placement under the unit.  The 
keyboard is very good, easy to type on, and has nice size keys.  I am 
getting just over 5 hours of use on a charge of the battery (6 cell).  The 
MSI has a new firmware bios that allows the unit to be run in turbo mode 
that takes the speed of the processor to 2.0 GHZ instead of the 1.6 
standard.  But, because of the use of stepping you should not have to 
worry about overheating the processor because the processor will only run 
at the faster speed when processing demands call for the necessity of more 
speed for heavy processing.  This difference makes the MSI able to perform 
more quickly and crispy on a lot of applications than the other units here 
that do not have any turbo mode.


I have used Jaws 10, Window-Eyes 7, the latest NVDA, and the latest System 
Access on these units and had no problems using any of these packages on 
any of the units with the exception of keyboard issues on the Dell Mini 9.



This message was composed on a MSI Wind netbook.

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To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 6:44 PM
Subject: RE: The New Netbooks



Hello Stephen My name is Julio and I would like to ask you what kind of
laptop would I need to run with jaws and what should I stay away from can
you please help I want to go out and buy a laptop and  want it to work
great.

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On Behalf Of Stephen Guerra
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 1:06 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: The New Netbooks

Yes, but from those who have tried this unit, the concensus is just those
who are probably not using any screen reading or magnification technology 
so

to me its not valid points.

The NC10 does not have by any stretch of the imagination a 96% keyboard 
or

it would be the best seller.



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Re: The New Netbooks

[Constantine]

I sure have and love mine. I use it daily and it could be used as a main 
computer.




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From: "Gary Wood" 

To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 10:20 AM
Subject: The New Netbooks


Hi All!  I'm wondering if anyone has yet tried using the new netbook 
computers.   I hear that they're quite handy to take from room to room, 
but again, the keys seem to be a bit smaller, and take a bit of getting 
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Re: Skype 4.0 users out there?

[Constantine]

When sending a file, - or recieving, with the scripts and new version, how 
do you accept the file? It seems to show up in the same window.



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Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: Skype 4.0 users out there?


I am using skype 4.0, and I would recommend the scripts, which can be found 
at www.dlee.org/skype


There are still some things you'd have to work around, that page tells you 
waht, but the audio quality is worth it.
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To: 
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Subject: Skype 4.0 users out there?




Any of you using Skype 4.0 with JAWS 10 and do you need scripts for it. I 
currently am using Skyp3 3.8 with no scripts and it works very well. The 
new version has better sound quality and better vido quality. Thanks.



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Re: The New Netbooks

[Constantine]

So does the acer, for that matter. They all seem to share the same audio 
soundcard. Same with video.



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Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 6:45 PM
Subject: RE: The New Netbooks



So does the MSI Wind


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On Behalf Of Nick G
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 5:28 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: The New Netbooks

It depends on the Netbook.  For instance, I know that the Samsung uses a
Realtech HD Audio card, which is not bad, especially considering it has,
believe it or not, a stereo mic preamp.
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To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 3:16 PM
Subject: Re: The New Netbooks



tom, can i ask a question concerning the netbook issue what kind of sound
card can be used in them? this is related to audio cause i plan to use 
one



and need a good sound card.
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To: 
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 1:40 PM
Subject: Re: The New Netbooks



Discussion about computers is off topic for this list.  You
will find more help on a list such as blind tech.

Please keep posts on topic.

Thank you.

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Re: The New Netbooks

[Constantine]

I have an asus eee pc and like it more than the nc10. From what I've seen of 
the nc10, that's just boasting. My 900 ha has maybe a 90 percent full 
keyboard, probably less.


The soundcard on this thing rocks - for most things, anyway. It converts 
files in gold wave with no lag at all. Its better than most laptops in that 
it has xp. (keep in mind I'm keeping this as audio related as I can, sorry 
if I stray off topic just a tad). I average 4.5 hours on battery with a 4 
cell battery. None of the other netbooks can do that - because asus's super 
hybrid engine.


Again, love it. Will never buy another brand of netbook again - or laptop, 
for that matter.



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To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 1:38 PM
Subject: Re: The New Netbooks


The Samsung NC10, which is the consensus choice if you read reviews all 
over the place, has a 96% keyboard.
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From: "Stephen Guerra" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 11:43 AM
Subject: RE: The New Netbooks



I am using the MSI Wind, and it is a 88% keyboard to a full size keyboard.
The HP2143 has a 92% size keyboard


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Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 10:20 AM
To: PC audio discussion list.
Subject: The New Netbooks

Hi All!  I'm wondering if anyone has yet tried using the new netbook
computers.   I hear that they're quite handy to take from room to room, 
but
again, the keys seem to be a bit smaller, and take a bit of getting used 
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Re: Older versions of WinAmp

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window eyes and jaws both have scripts for the latest if I'm not mistaken?



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Subject: Older versions of WinAmp



Hi all,

I'm currently runnuing WE 5.5 - not good for accessing the latest WinAmp. 
Does anyone know of a good site where I can get older versions?


Thanks,

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Re: mp3 players best for totally blind people

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I'd say the stream, since the poster below him was refering to that.


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Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 8:35 PM
Subject: Re: mp3 players best for totally blind people



you mean the plex talk or stream?
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Subject: Re: mp3 players best for totally blind people



Also, from what I understand, it is half the price and does twice the
job!
MMM
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 09:30:57 -0600 "Steve Robertson"
 writes:

This may have been mementioned earlier, but I understand the Victor
Stream
does a better job of reading the folder and individual file names as
one
scrolls through them then the Plextalk?

Steve

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Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 6:03 PM
Subject: Re: mp3 players best for totally blind people


> if you are talking about agc level/ manual yes it does whic works
quite
> nicely and from what i heard they are going to make the plextalk
pocket
> more and more useable then the stream this is what peter told me
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Ray" 

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> Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 4:24 PM
> Subject: Re: mp3 players best for totally blind people
>
>
>>I do think the Plextor Pocket is going to turn out to be the best
option
>>by
>> far for those wanting high quality pro level recording in stereo.
 the
>> only
>> thing you could want that it doesn't have is 24 bit epth
recording which
>> would be good particularly for music.
>>
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Re: mp3 players best for totally blind people

[Constantine]

Hmm...while we're on the subject of mp3 players. Why not find a sansa e or c 
200 series player and put rockbox on it. You can get these for 20 dollars or 
less.
Might I add that the stream and plextalk are meant for 2 totally different 
parts of the market? The plextalk isn't superior to the stream in any way, 
shape, or form - its just a different player all together and saying that 
its "above the stream" is just plain silly.
I haven't recharged my stream for about 18 hours of use. Which, I think is 
great, since it has a USB thumb drive plugged into it. The stream is too 
big? hrm..I don't think so.
Oh and there's a big price difference here too - for the sansa and things, I 
mean. If all you're going to do is play mp3 files, get a sansa. I'd be glad 
to show you how to put rockbox on it. (Oh, by the way. If it says anything 
about audible on the packaging, don't buy it; its the model 2, which rockbox 
doesn't support).
You could also probably find an iriver or iaudio - or maybe even a tasheeba 
gigabeat player somewhere too. A bit older, but they work perfect - at 
least, my ipod video 30 gb does.
Might I add that the sansa supports voice recording and does an ok job of it 
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Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 9:32 PM
Subject: RE: mp3 players best for totally blind people



Hi bruce and all

As I stated on another list, I must also agree with you.  I don't think 
the

two devices are really in composition.  They are meant for two slightly
different segments of the market.  But I do believe plextor has come up 
with

a winner here.



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Subject: Re: mp3 players best for totally blind people

I would suggest that the best comparison to make is that the Plextalk is a
very good recorder that has some playback functionality, and the Stream is 
a

very good player that has some recording functionality. As has been said
elsewhere. they are both very good for what they have been designed to do.
The size difference is minute. The battery life of the Stream is
considerably longer than that of the Plextalk, so if it is playback
capability you are after, seriously consider the Stream, which plays MP3.
OGG Vorbis, Windows Media, braille, TXT, HTML, rich text, FLAC, and more 
in

terms of file format. If it is primarily recording you are interested in,
then I would say the Plextalk is your best bet, with its stereo recording
capability and line-in jack, etc. Both devices have their place, and it is
irresponsible to say (and I think I'm decoding the spelling correctly) 
that
one is just a way better player in every respect, because that is simply 
not

true.

Bruce


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i would also like to take notice that the plex talk pocket is far
above what the stream can do in quality and portablity since the
victor reader stream is bigger then the plex talk pocket the pocket
will fit in your pocket it right now does not play ogg files but it
can play mp3s, wav files, txt files html files and has the most clear
sounding microphone i have heard in a small accessible device the mic
is even better then the streamsmicrophone you can also record much
more with the pocket like tapes, audio, and radio since it has a built
in externalmic/line in jack.
the price is 360 dollars and  one place to get it is IRTI and they are
very helpful in the questions i have asked their answers are totally
thoural and this device will surpass the stream cause of what it can
do.

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Subject: Re: mp3 players best for totally blind people


> The victor reader stream is the most accessible player and I am not
> being smart. If you just want to play music one file after  another
> any cheap mp3 player will do. but for total access to what you are
> playing the stream is the player of choice. I even excuse the $300
> price tag. for the access you get that is a bargain.- Original
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Re: Intro and Help needed urgently, or at least fast

[Constantine]

Hi,

You can't use stario mix using a USB headset, as far as I know. Windows 
treats it as its own soundcard and I've yet to see one with stario mix 
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Subject: Re: Intro and Help needed urgently, or at least fast


I can't tell you  exactly how to do this in vista but go to the playback 
properties in the volume control and make sure mic and wave volumes are 
checked. then close the volume control. you should here the synthesizer and 
your voice through the USB headset once you plug it in. in the record 
properties, make sure the stereo mix is checked and do the same within 
which recording program you choose to use.


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Subject: Intro and Help needed urgently, or at least fast



Hi everyone,
I'm Rob.  Ok enough with the intro. lol
I want to record a demo showing off a piece of software.  I am 
running Windows Vista which is probably the cause of my grief.  I am 
using a Logitek USB headset mic.  What I would like to do is not only 
record my voice, but the speach synthesizer and the sounds of the 
software I am demoing.  Using the Headset Mic, I can only get voice to 
record, none of the otherh sounds I need.  I have a number of sound 
recording programs at my disposal including Sony Soundforge Sound Studio 
9.0, audacity, goldwave.  I can get none of these to record more than 
just my voice.  I went to control pannel, sounds, went to the record tab 
and put it to stereo mix.  When I tried this, absolutely nothing records, 
so the frustration level is very very high. lol
Can someone give me a work around or even better a sollution so I can 
record voice, synthesizer, and sounds made by the software?  I even tried 
total recorder to no avail.

Thanks for your help in advance.
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Re: Intro and Help needed urgently, or at least fast

[Constantine]

That's the problem. You need a headset that isn't USB.
USB headsets can only use microhone output. If you get a headset that pluggs 
right into the soundcard you should be able to record your voice and 
speech - of course, this might depend, if your soundcard doesn't support the 
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Subject: Intro and Help needed urgently, or at least fast



Hi everyone,
I'm Rob.  Ok enough with the intro. lol
I want to record a demo showing off a piece of software.  I am running 
Windows Vista which is probably the cause of my grief.  I am using a 
Logitek USB headset mic.  What I would like to do is not only record my 
voice, but the speach synthesizer and the sounds of the software I am 
demoing.  Using the Headset Mic, I can only get voice to record, none of 
the otherh sounds I need.  I have a number of sound recording programs at 
my disposal including Sony Soundforge Sound Studio 9.0, audacity, 
goldwave.  I can get none of these to record more than just my voice.  I 
went to control pannel, sounds, went to the record tab and put it to 
stereo mix.  When I tried this, absolutely nothing records, so the 
frustration level is very very high. lol
Can someone give me a work around or even better a sollution so I can 
record voice, synthesizer, and sounds made by the software?  I even tried 
total recorder to no avail.

Thanks for your help in advance.
Rob, the incredibly frustrated, non demo recording person.

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Re: Problem with Real Alternative

[Constantine]

I think the reason he's using real alternitive is so he can play real files.

Also, I prefer winamp over WMP.




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Subject: Re: Problem with Real Alternative


Hello again,  hey if you use windows media player? you will have alot less 
frustration and you will be able to use window euyes because real player 
will not allow you to do it or anything because you will not hear it very 
well.At 09:07 AM 2/16/2009, you wrote:
I am having a problem with Real Alternative. When I click on a sight that 
has an imbedded real file, it gives me a message saying a general error 
has occurred. When I click on more information, it says that no 
information is available. When I go into normal real player, it just says 
I'm in Media Player classic and doesn't play. I tried reinstalling Real 
Alternative and it didn't work. What is wrong?

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Re: Working with the Sandisk Sansa-270

[Constantine]

Ask for version 1 - but good luck finding it, sandisc probably made bigger 
and better things by now. In all honesty, if you can't find one in stores, 
you might try ebay. I'm sure there are a lot of mp3 players that rockbox 
supports on there. I'm using an ipod video 30 gb with rockbox on it and love 
the thing. I don't have to use Itunes or any of that "software"..




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Subject: Re: Working with the Sandisk Sansa-270


so then what will I ask them  when I go buy one? and what mp3 player do you
have?
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Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 8:39 AM
Subject: Re: Working with the Sandisk Sansa-270


Actually, from the rockbox.com web site it says: "• SanDisk: Sansa c200,
e200 and e200R series (not the v2 models)", so make sure you're talking
about a v1 model.


Timothy wrote:

Yes it will. All Sansa c200, e200 and e200R series will work with rockbox.

You can find more info at:
www.rockbox.org

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Subject: Re: Working with the Sandisk Sansa-270


have you herd of the Sansa e 250 and will that one work with rock box?
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Subject: Re: Working with the Sandisk Sansa-270




Yes. I have a Sansa-E270 with rockbox 3.0 on it. The voice I have loaded
for
the menus and everything is Acapella Heather American English. I also 
have

VW Kate for V 3.0. I can give you instructions on how to install rockbox,
and to install the voice.

HTH,
Timothy

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Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 6:50 PM
Subject: Re: Working with the Sandisk Sansa-270


can that mp3 player talk?
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Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 2:03 PM
Subject: Re: Working with the Sandisk Sansa-270




I do not know how to put it in English. Also, if you want, you can put
rockbox on it. (www.rockbox.org) It enables the Sansa to read Micro 
SD-HC

cards. Plus, it has the ability to talk as well.

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Subject: Working with the Sandisk Sansa-270


I recently bought a 4GB Sandisk player, the Sansa 270, for $30.00
delivered.  Great price, but no manual; and no outboard charger, though
the data cable works for that too.

Bought it in part for my S.O. to enjoy the video screen and don't expect
it to be fully accessible, but all the messages on said screen are in
French.  Quel domage!

Any thoughts on tweaking the main menu back to English, which would make
it a more inviting device?  I must say the internal software seems quite
good.  Plug the darn thing in, and it starts finding your WMA files.

Thanks for any and all suggestions.
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Re: A DVD cost comparison question

[Constantine]

That might be, I'd imagine it could be since the technology is newer.



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Subject: Re: A DVD cost comparison question


But what about DVDRW and DVD ram!  I hear that DVD ram can be used many 
more times over than DVDRW's!
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Subject: Re: A DVD cost comparison question


No, not all dvd players support duel layer discs. I did, however, find 
out some useful info:
Dvd +r's are better than dvd -r. I'll try and dig up the article 
somewhere.
I'd guess single layer would deteriate less since they'd have less of a 
chance of messing up when burning. Also, double layer cost nearly twice 
as much as single - so if storage is the answer, it sure would save 
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I also have a question relating to burning with dvd's. Do all dvd writers
support dual layer disks?


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Subject: A DVD cost comparison question


I have been using 4-gig DVDs for backups of audio files.
But lately I have begun to wonder if the double layer DVDs
might be just about as economical.  Additionally, can anyone
point me to any articles comparing the long term reliability
of single layer versus double layer DVDs?

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Re: A DVD cost comparison question

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No, not all dvd players support duel layer discs. I did, however, find out 
some useful info:

Dvd +r's are better than dvd -r. I'll try and dig up the article somewhere.
I'd guess single layer would deteriate less since they'd have less of a 
chance of messing up when burning. Also, double layer cost nearly twice as 
much as single - so if storage is the answer, it sure would save space - and 
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Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 6:40 PM
Subject: Re: A DVD cost comparison question



I also have a question relating to burning with dvd's. Do all dvd writers
support dual layer disks?


- Original Message - 
From: "Donald L. Roberts" 

To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 6:39 PM
Subject: A DVD cost comparison question


I have been using 4-gig DVDs for backups of audio files.
But lately I have begun to wonder if the double layer DVDs
might be just about as economical.  Additionally, can anyone
point me to any articles comparing the long term reliability
of single layer versus double layer DVDs?

Thanks.

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Re: for cdex users

[Constantine]

Hmm why not use goldwave, it keeps the audio info whereas cdex doesn't i 
don't think.




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Subject: for cdex users


Hi list, has anyone run in to this problem. in cdex151, if one wishes to, 
one can change ogg files in to mp3. in cdex160, and cdex170, the same 
facility seems to be available, but after changing the ogg file to mp3, it 
will give a value in bytes, and if opened in foobar, will give a value of 
lenhth in minutes. but, although it will play if done in cdex151, it won't 
play if done in cdex160 or cdex170. has anyone found a way round this. 
cdex170 is much quicker at ripping discs than cdex151 or cdex160, so for 
me it is preferable. if anyone is wondering why i would wisht to change 
ogg to mp3, i don't wish to for myself, but for a friend who wants mp3. 
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Re: Hope you can help with the iMic

[Constantine]

Hi,

I recommend putting that line in the .ini file. I also recommend downloading 
NVDA, since that just about always pulls through and if jaws isn't coming 
through the right soundcard, NVDA most certainly will.




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Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 8:12 PM
Subject: Hope you can help with the iMic



Hi Donna, Gary, Alex, et al:

Y'all have been very kind and patient with me.  Thanks ever so much!  I
don't have individual email addresses so I can't go off-line.  Sorry to
those who are disinterested.  Here's the situation now that I have the 
iMic:


I have a Dell laptop, Windows XP, with a SigmaTel Audio soundcard.  I am
usually hooked up to a port replicator which also has its own sound card
called C-Media Headphone Set.  I have Jaws 9.0 as the screen reader and
Goldwave as the sound recording program.

To start with, I assume that I should disconnect from the port replicator
and use my laptop with the SigmaTel Audio default card.  So before 
shutting

down, I should go into Control Panel, Sounds, Audio tab, and check the box
at the bottom that says use only default devices.  I then do a shut down.

I attach the line outs from my tape deck into the iMic line in adaptor 
plug
and plug that into the line in plug on the iMic.  I flip the switch to 
line

in on the side of the device.  I then unplug the USB port replicator.  I
plug in the iMic USB plug and restart the laptop computer.

Will I hear Jaws when it comes on?  Do I plug in a set of headphones into
the output jack on the iMic?  If I don't get any sound, I will have to
abort.  The one thing that I will need to check is that my sound settings 
in
control panel and Goldwave are on the iMic for the recording device and 
that
the playback settings are on either the iMic for the headphones plugged 
into

the iMic or without headphones on the SigmaTel card.  But I can't do this
without Jaws.

In the old days when my old device was sometimes working, along with doing
the checkbox in the control panel sounds audio settings, I would bring up
the Jaws 9.0 ini file and insert the following at the last line before the
synth2 line:

Synth1Port=SigmaTel Audio

I don't know if I should do this or not.  Some have advised that I do this
and some say it is not needed.

I hope that you can help.  It's been a struggle to get back to eliminating
my vast tape and vinyl collection.  This is all I am focused on besides my
job.  It has become a quest of sorts.  I wish I had a sighted person along
side that can help, but it ain't happening without much pleading.  Besides
this isn't rocket science, or is it?  Smiles!

Let me know what you think!  You can contact me via any of the contact
points below.

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Peter

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Re: program to split large audio files

[Constantine]

Hi,

I use gold wave for that. Its been a while though, but from what I remember 
its quite easy.




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Subject: program to split large audio files



Hi list,
I hope this question is on topic. Does anyone know of a program that can
split large audio files into smaller mp3's? I have some audio books that 
are

a single file and I would like to split these into smaller files.
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recording volume control not displaying at all

[Constantine]

Hi,

So, heres my problem. Using an asus eee pc 900 ha, I can't get recording volume 
control to show up in sounds and audio devices. When I go to properties, I can 
only select playback radio button, not recording. I can't click on recording 
volume - well I can, but nothing displays. It does, however, display a diologue 
when playback volume is clicked on.

Does anyone have any suggestions as to what might be going on here and how to 
fix this problem?

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Re: Two audio outs?

[Constantine]

i don't see why not. Just set windows to come out of your USB headset, then 
tell window eyes to come out of your main soundcard. I don't know about 
window eyes, but with jaws you edit a .ini file to tell it to use the main 
soundcard.


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Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 3:01 PM
Subject: Two audio outs?



Hi List,

I had asked this question before, but I didn't get an answer back
yet.  Perhaps this is not possible, but,

Is it possible to keep WE coming out of the PC's audio out, and also,
at the same time, use a usb chat headset separately for classroom
work.  If this can be done, then I would be able to have WE coming
through a set of PC speakers while I am working with my usb headsets
for classroom work - again, at the same time.

Thanks in advance,

John



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Re: Searching for torrents

[Constantine]

What exactly do you mean by this?

Mininova, btjunkie, and thepiratebay are much more wwidely known. I haven't 
even heard of this program.




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Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:18 AM
Subject: Re: Searching for torrents



But Torent harvester contains many pages which are researched.
Bozenka
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Subject: Re: Searching for torrents



There are, for example, I generally use isohunt.com. I've forgotten the
other torrent sites I've used, but I'm sure others will chime in, and of
course, you can find more than you can shake a stick at with Google.

Donald L. Roberts wrote:
> There is a great deal which I don't know about torrents as
> this is quite new to me.  I wonder whether there are search
> engines specifically for torrent searches or if Google works
> equally well.  If there are such specialized engines, what
> are they?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Don Roberts
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Re: Searching for torrents

[Constantine]

There's btjunkie.org, and demonoid.com. Demonoid is only open for 
registration a few times a month, be on the lookout for those. I got 
invited, but you only get so many invitations you can use. Also 
thepiratebay.org is a good place to look, too. Some sites are a bit teedius 
to get through, but once you do its easy enough.




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Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 8:30 PM
Subject: Re: Searching for torrents



There are, for example, I generally use isohunt.com. I've forgotten the
other torrent sites I've used, but I'm sure others will chime in, and of
course, you can find more than you can shake a stick at with Google.

Donald L. Roberts wrote:

There is a great deal which I don't know about torrents as
this is quite new to me.  I wonder whether there are search
engines specifically for torrent searches or if Google works
equally well.  If there are such specialized engines, what
are they?

Thanks.

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Re: external hard drives

[Constantine]

I've got a caser vault here that's endured many dropps and bumps in the 2 
plus years of ownership. no drives should pose problems, since there all 
plug and play, meaning you can treat them as you would a USB thumb drive. 
Some may come with software but you dont need to use it. Seagate is good 
too, and there hard drives come with five years warranty.





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Subject: external hard drives


I am considering purchasing an external hard drive.  Is there a problem 
with accessibility for any of them?  Are there certain brands to stay away 
from?  Where is my best deal?


Loren

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Re: Friend Needs Help With Sound Card

[Constantine]

Hi,

I tried talking to someone with a soundmax card on skype. He had it working, 
for about 2 minutes that is. And we have no idea how exactly it worked. But 
just as abruptly, with no change of setting whatsoever, it stopped 
working, - meaning the microphone jack didn't work, and all I could hear was 
his jaws.


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To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 6:24 AM
Subject: Re: Friend Needs Help With Sound Card



Hi Pam,
I have the same on board card on my computer,
it's a terrible card.
I've ordered a Soundblaster live.
- Original Message - 
From: "Pam Drake" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:09 AM
Subject: RE: Friend Needs Help With Sound Card



John,

Just so I understand, this card won't work for simple VOIP?  Seems hard
to believe there wouldn't be some way around it.  Dave had been hoping
the person at Wal-Mart might have had the jacks mis-wired.  This lady
knows nothing of computers, so he couldn't test his theory without her
moving cords, which she didn't seem to want to do.  >  We were trying to
help out after she was unable to get into the chat on the ACB Radio
Tuesday Topics show in the ACB Radio Politics Room with Talkcom.  We
probably should say she's
an acquaintance, and all we know is what we know.Please
understand I'm not doubting you, but rather our possible inability to
communicate that the lady simply wants to work VOIP.  Or is this what
you mean by "monitoring live chats"?

I think maybe it's time to suggest someone go over and check it out
hands on.  If there's no way around the issue it will be up to her
whether she wants to invest in a sound card, as it appears she received
the computer under the auspices of Florida rehab.  
-Original Message-

Pam



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Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 3:43 PM
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Subject: Re: Friend Needs Help With Sound Card

Hello Pam,
No, I have tried and couldn't do it with SOUND MAX: I couldn't get it to
work for me either.
So I installed an internal sound card so that I can monitor my
recordings and live chats.
I am so sorry, there is no other way to work around that.
My best regards!
 John.
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To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 5:56 PM
Subject: RE: Friend Needs Help With Sound Card



Oh dear!  I think that's kind of what we were afraid would be the

case.

We'll have to talk to our friend.  Sheesh!  What a pity!  She wants to



participate in ACB Radio's Tuesday Topics and probably other chats.
Is there any way at all she could at least use this card for that?
She's a real computer newbie, and may not want to do anything

sophisticated.

She does hear the beep when pressing the control key but no one can
hear her.  Sheesh!  Is this really hopeless as it sounds?

Thanks again.

Pam



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Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 2:30 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Friend Needs Help With Sound Card

Hello Pam,
SOUND MAX is not a good sound card.
My DELL system has one in it too as well.
I don't use mine anymore because you can't monitor the live recordings



and or live chats.
She can either use an internal sound card or an external USB sound

card.

SOUND BLASTER would be a good place to start.
http://www.soundblaster.com
is the web address.
My best regards!
John.
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From: "Pam Drake" 
To: ; "'PC Audio Discussion List'"

Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 11:38 PM
Subject: Friend Needs Help With Sound Card



Please forgive the cross post, but we are trying to help a young lady



with a sound card we don't know anything about, and are hoping to
find



someone on one of these two lists who might be able to assist.

.  It is the Soundmax HD Audio card, and came with her Dell desktop
computer.  She knows little about the machine, but would like to
participate in audio chats.

We are working by phone and she is in another city/State, so we're
flying blind, no pun intended.
We have followed all the usual procedures for a Windows sound card,
but so far nothing is obvious.  We believe the mic is muted, and
can't



figure out how to unmute it.  There are two checkboxes whose checked
or unchecked status we don't understand, and there appears to be a
rear speaker recording capability as well.  There appear to be jacks
both on the front and rear, and s

Re: Laptop making strange noises

[constantine (on laptop)]

Sometimes you get that. When I use my ipod with noise canceling headphones, 
I get this really wierd buzzing sound. Not sure why.


Tyler

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Cc: "'Riana van der Walt'" 
Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 11:14 AM
Subject: Laptop making strange noises



Hi all

A friend of mine has a very strange problem with her new laptop.

She uses a xitel device to play music from her laptop through a high 
quality
stereo system.  When she connects this device to her laptop while on 
battery

power, everything is fine and the sound is clear.  However, as soon as she
connects the power chord of her laptop, a lot of noise is generated 
through
her speakers.  She had another laptop before which was stolen, and it 
worked

fine.

She has already tried to connect the laptop to a different power outlet 
and

also tried to move the xitel further away from the laptop with a USB
extension cable  without any luck.

Any advice from all you knowledgeable folks?

Andre


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Re: Winamp and dvd-s.

[constantine (on laptop)]

I tried once on an older computer. I had to manually select the .vob file in 
the dvd, and when it played, all it was horrible horrible statick. That 
could be just me, though.




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Hi!
Maybe it's a stupid question but can Winamp play dvd-s?
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Re: Choosing Location in Easy CD-DA Extractor

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Hi,

Ah, I see. Well, I take it its not so great now? That's sad - but 25 dollars 
would be an excellent price. Though CD Ex can convert files, actually.




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Constantine,

Easy CDDA Extractor includes ripper, burner, and file format converter
components (I've never used CDEx; but I don't think it does.); and, back in
the day, its registration fee was only $25. It was generally regarded as one
of the best deals on the computer audio market.

Blessed Be,

Dana
that's Dana, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A
If your synthesizer pronounces them identically, instruct your customized
pronunciation  dictionary that Dana=dayna.

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Hi,

Just curious. What's the difference between this program and CD ex? I've
always swore by CD EX.



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I have a bunch of completely legal CD's that I want to conver to
completely legal MP3's. Each disk is one track, so I don't have to worry
about choosing tracks or anything like that. Has anyone at least gotten,
in Easy CD-DA Extractor 12, the "choose a location" feature to work
correctly? I don't have the fabled version 9, and besides, I want to use
the new extraction engine in 12 to do this. I would use Exact Audio
Copy, but EAC does not like these disks. Anyone have any thoughts?

bruce

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Re: Choosing Location in Easy CD-DA Extractor

[constantine (on laptop)]

Hi,

Just curious. What's the difference between this program and CD ex? I've 
always swore by CD EX.




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I have a bunch of completely legal CD's that I want to conver to
completely legal MP3's. Each disk is one track, so I don't have to worry
about choosing tracks or anything like that. Has anyone at least gotten,
in Easy CD-DA Extractor 12, the "choose a location" feature to work
correctly? I don't have the fabled version 9, and besides, I want to use
the new extraction engine in 12 to do this. I would use Exact Audio
Copy, but EAC does not like these disks. Anyone have any thoughts?

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Re: EEE PC Asus (For Roger and others)

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Hi,

I have a friend who has one of these, and it doesn't do that. Not sure why 
yours would. Is it a eee pc 904 ha?




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Re: Portable Media Player with Large Disk

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It will run on the ipod video with an 80 gb hard drive.



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Since Rockbox won't run on the iPod classic, now with a 120GB drive,
what's one to do who wants a machine with a large internal drive?  Or
am I/are we stuck with the 16GB boundary until fatter cards come
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Re: Scripts for Skype

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Hi,

Yeah, http://dlee.org/skype should be the right one.




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Hi, The latest version of Skype and the scripts for JAWS can be found
by visiting the skype tips and tricks page go to:
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I think the website for it is: dlee.org/skype

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   Hi my friend, I'd like to have skype script ver. 3.8 how and how

can I

get it...
   I'm Jose ortega from Juarex Mexico...
Yhank you.
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Re: Is there a device that will let you play a thumb drivethroughastario?

[constantine (on laptop)]

Hi

You can buy a stario that will do it. But honestly, I'd use an AV cable, 
because buying a stario that could play thumb drives is a waste of money- 
your not getting very much money back- because the thumb drive costs a 
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Thanks, can anyone reccamend any devices of that nature?

On 10/22/08, Larry Naessens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi Alex. AV is short for Audio Video.

Larry
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Sorry if I sound stupid, but what is an AV system?

On 10/21/08, Cornell Ligon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi,
sorry for late post, but there are AV systems that also play USB
drives...


Best Regards,
Cornell


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Subject: Re: Is there a device that will let you play a thumb drive
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Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 18:24:13 -0600

Best way I can think of is buy one of those cables that have two RCA
jacks
on one end and 1 at the other. Plug the end with 1 jack into a laptop,
with
a thumb drive in it, and plug the other two into a stario or tv equipt
with
2 stario jacks.

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through

astario?



--
Alex

Is there a device that will let you plug in a thumb drive and act 
like

a CD player, reading the songs, and sending them through RCA to a
stario receiver? I would apppreciate any advice on a product that
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Re: SV: J-Tunes 4.0 is released!

[constantine (on laptop)]

Well actually, I have a question. This isn't exactly pc audio related, but 
its a good point to make.


There are scripts out there that make skype an accessible program with jaws, 
just like there are scripts out there that make itunes a working program 
with jaws.


Also, you can download the beta of jaws 10. You can also upgrade - when 
windows xp is no longer being supported, lots of people will be forced to - 
and you'll iether have to use jaws 10.0 (by then) or some other technology, 
because by then windows 7 (or whatever there calling it now) will be out, 
and the design of it will have changed, and jaws 10 will be required.


But seriously. I'm not getting the ipod 4th gen because I have an ipod video 
with rockbox, which is also free and is not just a small little script 
iether, btw. Its taken hundreds of volunteers to make rockbox possible. Then 
again, its open source. That doesn't change the fact that this could be to.


So, I pay 100 dollars for an ipod. I'd pay close to that for the scripts. I 
could go buy an mp3 player, not an ipod but an mp3 player with the same 
amount of memory - say a sandisc sansa- for 40 dollars, put rockbox on it, 
and have a perfectly good alternitive. Just so people know about it - 
instead of thinking they have to buy the scripts.





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Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 6:57 PM
Subject: Re: SV: J-Tunes 4.0 is released!


Don't you know yet that the majority opinion is that if it is access for 
the blind that it should be free and be without any bugs or problems. 
Anyone writing software or scripts for blind people should do so out of the 
goodness of the hearts and not worry about where the money comes from to pay 
for food, utilities, house payments, etc.




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Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 11:08 PM
Subject: RE: SV: J-Tunes 4.0 is released!


Have you tried the scripts?  No one is going to hold a gun to your head to
pay for them if you don't want.  Notice the version is 4.0 so it looks like
Brian has convinced enough people that the work he has done is worth it.
Why do you people insist on whining about something like this?  If it is
just a simple script then write them yourself and give them away if you
want.  If the price is too high then the market will decide it.

The J-tunes scripts take a program which is useable with JAWS and make it an
efficient well running pleasure to use.  If you don't want to pay for it
then don't but don't make stupid and unsubstantiated comments about Brian
when you haven't a clue what you're talking about.

Karl





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On Behalf Of Paul Henrichsen
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 9:21 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: SV: J-Tunes 4.0 is released!

Yeah. 20-30, but no way I am paying 70-80 for just a script no matter how
good it is.
Somehow, that reminds me when people who created accessible software used to
charge outrageous prices because they knew they could screw some agency who
would pay it. I really think this price structure should be rethought.


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Subject: Re: SV: J-Tunes 4.0 is released!

Hi there

If I'm not mistaken, that's in euro's (Or pounds). Iether way, here in
Canada or in the States, its probably even more- i agree, there is a limmit-

heck, I'd have been willing to pay fourty- because I did use the demmo at
one point and did it ever make a difference.



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I too am a 

Re: looking for free editor

[constantine (on laptop)]

I've been using the gold wave trial for a long, long time now. There's no 
time limmit, that I've seen. Its just you can only do a thousand commands 
with every use of it, then you have to close and reopen it.





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Free wav audio editor is audacity from sourceforge.net. Free mp3 editor
is directcut.

Walter Ramage said the following on 12.10.2008 13:50:
Hi Donald.  To my knowledge, there are no free audio editors.  They will 
all
cost you and the cost varies widely.  However there is a trial period 
with
Gold Wave which gives you full functionality for a limited period.  If 
you

were able to get your work done with in the prescribed time limit then it
wouldn't cost you anything.  I don't know if you use a mouse and hence 
have
some sight or a screen reader in which case, you would have to also 
install

the scripts to help you use the programme efficiently.  Walter.






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Re: Is there a device that will let you play a thumb drive through astario?

[constantine (on laptop)]

Best way I can think of is buy one of those cables that have two RCA jacks 
on one end and 1 at the other. Plug the end with 1 jack into a laptop, with 
a thumb drive in it, and plug the other two into a stario or tv equipt with 
2 stario jacks.


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--
Alex

Is there a device that will let you plug in a thumb drive and act like
a CD player, reading the songs, and sending them through RCA to a
stario receiver? I would apppreciate any advice on a product that
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Re: SV: J-Tunes 4.0 is released!

[constantine (on laptop)]

Hi there

If I'm not mistaken, that's in euro's (Or pounds). Iether way, here in 
Canada or in the States, its probably even more- i agree, there is a limmit- 
heck, I'd have been willing to pay fourty- because I did use the demmo at 
one point and did it ever make a difference.




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From: "Christopher Chaltain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 8:23 PM
Subject: Re: SV: J-Tunes 4.0 is released!


I too am a fan of freeware and open source software, but remember iTunes
has only just now become accessible "out of the box". You may also need
the latest versions of the screen readers as well, like the second
release of the JAWS 10 Beta, although I'm not sure about this particular
point. I'm more than willing to pay for an accessible solution when
either there isn't a free accessible solution at all or the free
solution is just a lot tougher to use. I'll also support the development
of accessible software by paying for software that's been made
accessible, although there is a limit! I'm not sure if J-Tunes is worth
the price, but it's my understanding that up until Apple released iTunes
8, you didn't have a lot of other options.

Just to come clean, I've never used J-Tunes, itunes or an iPod. For my
part, the Apple space is just too expensive and proprietary, although to
be honest, the iPod Nano 4th Generation does have me intrigued.

Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hello!
Well actually i agree with you.
Haven't tested itunes but as i understand iTunes is free.
Long live the freeware and open source.
/Anders.

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Ämne: Re: J-Tunes 4.0 is released!


Ow, that price, inclduing the ipod, seriously turns me off. I don't think
I'll be buying this. I mean, what's the difference between j-tunes and I
Tunes? I thought I tunes by itself was accessible.




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From: "Steve Pattison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Access-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "PC-Audio" 
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 8:11 PM
Subject: Fwd: J-Tunes 4.0 is released!




From: Scott Erichsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi all,

Despite a bit of a roller-coaster ride at the last moment with the
iTunes 8.01 update, J-Tunes version 4.0 is now available to download.
Please read this message carefully as it contains important
information prior to download.

First, we must thank our beta testing team.  If it was not for the
dedication and support from our beta testers this product just
wouldn't have happened.  Considering iTunes 8 was released in
mid-September, and here we are in mid-October with a completely
rewritten and tested product is largely due to the hard work they have
put in.

Also thanks to the developer, Brian Hartgen who has worked day and
sometimes night to get this product to the stage that it is now. He
must be congratulated on a fantastic effort.

The User Guide is available on the website and I would encourage you
to read it as it is likely to answer all your questions.  We have
expanded it to include all the new features of J-Tunes and have
included a whole new section on the use of the iPod Nano 4th
generation which is the latest iPod with talking menus

J-Tunes will function as a demo by default.  However if you have
purchased J-Tunes version 3, you can upgrade free of charge. Please
read the section in the User Guide relating to how this is done. The
price for a full copy of J-Tunes in Australia is $75.00.

Literally as each day goes by, we learn more and more about iTunes. We
are collectively using more and more functions of iTunes to learn how
things work, and so there may be aspects of iTunes which are still
inaccessible.  If so, please let us know, but we hope J-Tunes 4.0 goes
a long way to addressing them.

Finally, as with all software, there may be problems with any software
package combined with iTunes.  However if a bug is conclusively found,
the only way to get it addressed for sure is to send it to me at
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I will then take responsibility for sending your report onto our beta
testing team. we will try and rectify it in 

Re: Step by step instructions please!

[constantine (on laptop)]

Well, I think said equipment is a very expensive alternitive, so I'd 
recommend doing what you plan on doing- putting the songs on your computer 
in an mp3 format. I plan on doing that soon, and didn't know you could use 
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Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 6:10 AM
Subject: RE: Step by step instructions please!



Hi Donald.  Firstly, you will need a cassette player with either left and
right phono sockets or a headphone socket.  There is a free programme 
called

CDEX which includes with in it a recorder but if you want to split the
contents of the tape into separate tracks then you will need an audio 
editor

such as Gold Wave or Total Recorder or Sound Forge ETC.  These are also
recorders and will do what you want with ease.  If you don't want to split
the file into tracks then the CDEX recorder will do fine.  When you decide
what you wish to do and what programme you want to use then let us know 
and

we can help.  The problem is, until you decide what you want to do it is
difficult to give step by step instructions as each programme has 
different

controls and shortcut keys and although some on the list may be familiar
with all the well known editors, some like myself are only familiar with
Gold Wave and not any of the others.  If your end goal is to burn the
contents on your cassette to a CD then there is a piece of equipment that
will do that for you without having to use your PC but I don't know 
anything

more about it or what it is called as I've had no experience with it.
Perhaps some on this list though can help there.  Walter.

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   I have received a cassette tape with a bunch of songs on it. I
want to convert those songs to a format like WMA on my computer. What is 
the

hardware and software needed and instructions necessary to perform this
task?

Donald


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Re: J-Tunes 4.0 is released!

[constantine (on laptop)]

Well, that's my point. Sure. Someones worked really hard to create this. But 
that's like saying hey there, man. Pay 70 dollars and I'll give you a 
chocolate bar so I can eat- that is, in my view, too expensive when there is 
rockbox out there, more accessible itunes out there, etc. Then again that's 
just me. I'd pay 20 dollars for them- but 70? No way.




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Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 7:57 AM
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Hello!
Well actually i agree with you.
Haven't tested itunes but as i understand iTunes is free.
Long live the freeware and open source.
/Anders.

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Ow, that price, inclduing the ipod, seriously turns me off. I don't think
I'll be buying this. I mean, what's the difference between j-tunes and I
Tunes? I thought I tunes by itself was accessible.




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From: "Steve Pattison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Access-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "PC-Audio" 
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 8:11 PM
Subject: Fwd: J-Tunes 4.0 is released!



From: Scott Erichsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi all,

Despite a bit of a roller-coaster ride at the last moment with the
iTunes 8.01 update, J-Tunes version 4.0 is now available to download.
Please read this message carefully as it contains important
information prior to download.

First, we must thank our beta testing team.  If it was not for the
dedication and support from our beta testers this product just
wouldn't have happened.  Considering iTunes 8 was released in
mid-September, and here we are in mid-October with a completely
rewritten and tested product is largely due to the hard work they have
put in.

Also thanks to the developer, Brian Hartgen who has worked day and
sometimes night to get this product to the stage that it is now. He
must be congratulated on a fantastic effort.

The User Guide is available on the website and I would encourage you
to read it as it is likely to answer all your questions.  We have
expanded it to include all the new features of J-Tunes and have
included a whole new section on the use of the iPod Nano 4th
generation which is the latest iPod with talking menus

J-Tunes will function as a demo by default.  However if you have
purchased J-Tunes version 3, you can upgrade free of charge. Please
read the section in the User Guide relating to how this is done. The
price for a full copy of J-Tunes in Australia is $75.00.

Literally as each day goes by, we learn more and more about iTunes. We
are collectively using more and more functions of iTunes to learn how
things work, and so there may be aspects of iTunes which are still
inaccessible.  If so, please let us know, but we hope J-Tunes 4.0 goes
a long way to addressing them.

Finally, as with all software, there may be problems with any software
package combined with iTunes.  However if a bug is conclusively found,
the only way to get it addressed for sure is to send it to me at
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I will then take responsibility for sending your report onto our beta
testing team. we will try and rectify it in the next J-Tunes update.
But we hope that you will enjoy the J-Tunes experience in using JAWS
with iTunes as our many customers have done until this point.

So for that all important link.  It is

http://www.tandt-consultancy.com/j-tunes.html

Enjoy!

Scott Erichsen
Support and Training, Blindness Products

T & T Consultancy Australia Pty LTD.

795 Pacific Highway,
Gordon,
NSW, 2072

Tel: +612 9499 5075
Fax: +612 9499 5073
Website: www.tandt-consultancy.com.au

Regards Steve
Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Windows Live Messenger:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Recording quality of victor reader xtreme

[constantine (on laptop)]

Hi,

I'm about to upload some various clips to sendspace to show you how it 
sounds for different things. (close up, what happens when things get too 
loud, what happens when things're far away, etc).


It'll mostly be with engines- its not ideal but it works well enough.



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Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 6:21 PM
Subject: RE: Recording quality of victor reader xtreme


Greetings,

It does very well with meetings etc., even if someone is sitting across
a conference room from you.

Blessings,

Mari Dole



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Subject: Recording quality of victor reader xtreme


Hi all

I hhave some questions regarding the victor reader xtreme especially
regarding it's recording quality.

This is probably one of the best pieces  of technology to come out in a
long time.

But can it be used effectively as a recorder for lectures and
conferences? And will an external microphone make a significant
difference  in the recording quality of this machine?

Would you be able to compare the recording quality with e.g. something
like the olympus recorders?

I have a serious hearing impairment so sound quality is of great
importance to me.

I cannot seem to find any sample recordings of this machine anywhere.
There are some good reviews though.

Andre


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Re: J-Tunes 4.0 is released!

[constantine (on laptop)]

Ow, that price, inclduing the ipod, seriously turns me off. I don't think 
I'll be buying this. I mean, what's the difference between j-tunes and I 
Tunes? I thought I tunes by itself was accessible.





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To: "Access-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "PC-Audio" 
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 8:11 PM
Subject: Fwd: J-Tunes 4.0 is released!



From: Scott Erichsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi all,

Despite a bit of a roller-coaster ride at the last moment with the
iTunes 8.01 update, J-Tunes version 4.0 is now available to download.
Please read this message carefully as it contains important information
prior to download.

First, we must thank our beta testing team.  If it was not for the
dedication and support from our beta testers this product just wouldn't
have happened.  Considering iTunes 8 was released in mid-September, and
here we are in mid-October with a completely rewritten and tested
product is largely due to the hard work they have put in.

Also thanks to the developer, Brian Hartgen who has worked day and
sometimes night to get this product to the stage that it is now. He must
be congratulated on a fantastic effort.

The User Guide is available on the website and I would encourage you to
read it as it is likely to answer all your questions.  We have expanded
it to include all the new features of J-Tunes and have included a whole
new section on the use of the iPod Nano 4th generation which is the
latest iPod with talking menus

J-Tunes will function as a demo by default.  However if you have
purchased J-Tunes version 3, you can upgrade free of charge.
Please read the section in the User Guide relating to how this is done.
The price for a full copy of J-Tunes in Australia is $75.00.

Literally as each day goes by, we learn more and more about iTunes. We
are collectively using more and more functions of iTunes to learn how
things work, and so there may be aspects of iTunes which are still
inaccessible.  If so, please let us know, but we hope J-Tunes 4.0 goes a
long way to addressing them.

Finally, as with all software, there may be problems with any software
package combined with iTunes.  However if a bug is conclusively found,
the only way to get it addressed for sure is to send it to me at
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I will then take responsibility for sending your report onto our beta
testing team.
we will try and rectify it in the next J-Tunes update.  But we hope that
you will enjoy the J-Tunes experience in using JAWS with iTunes as our
many customers have done until this point.

So for that all important link.  It is

http://www.tandt-consultancy.com/j-tunes.html

Enjoy!

Scott Erichsen
Support and Training, Blindness Products

T & T Consultancy Australia Pty LTD.

795 Pacific Highway,
Gordon,
NSW, 2072

Tel: +612 9499 5075
Fax: +612 9499 5073
Website: www.tandt-consultancy.com.au

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Re: winamp scripts

[constantine (on laptop)]

Are those the latest? - for winamp 5.5? Using jaws 10 beta here and also 
jaws 9.





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You can get them hear.
http://www.jfwlite.com/programs.html
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Hi there

Was just curious, does anyone know where to get the latest jaws scripts
for winamp?

thanks



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winamp scripts

[constantine (on laptop)]

Hi there

Was just curious, does anyone know where to get the latest jaws scripts for 
winamp?

thanks



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Re: warning about the turtle beach montaygo DDL

[constantine (on laptop)]

Hi,

With this laptop, hardware accelleration has to be brought down to 60 or so. 
I'm planning building a new desktop. Does anyone have the realtech Alp 688 
or 860? I can't remember what exactly the soundcard is...I know its realtch, 
though.




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HI listers.  I have some words of warning if any of you ever decide to
purchase the card I mentioned in the subject line.  I bought one of them,
and am currently working to get it sent back.  When recording, you can't 
set
levels by using a similar level to what the computer volume is for 
recording

line-in sources.  If you do, you will get lots of distortion.  Other than
that, the card seems to work fine except that in some games, I had to turn
the hardware sampling rate down to 33 percent so the computer wouldn't
crash.  Assuming all goes well, I intend to go with the sound blaster x-fi
OEM card.  I would welcome any comments or ideas on this matter.  Thanks
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Re: A digital recorder wanted

[constantine (on laptop)]

Hi there

I highly recommend the Olympus ds50. Records in WMA format, not sure the 
memory, but I love the quality and probably has most of the things your 
looking for. I love the remote for it too.




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Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 6:39 PM
Subject: A digital recorder wanted


> Hi all,
>
> Can anyone suggest a product which will meet my needs.
>
> I am wanting a digital recorder which I can use to record meetings, etc. 
> It must:
>
> 1. Be able to record in MP3 format up to at least 192 KBPS.
>
> 2. Have the facility for recording to a line in socket as well as stereo 
> microphones.
>
> 3. Have a headphone output for listening.  A separate line out would also 
> be an advantage.
>
> 4. Be able to connect to a PC via an USB port, where the files appear in a 
> drive on the PC so that they can be copied using Windows
> Explorer in both directions.
>
> 5. Have basic editing facilities, e.g. cut, copy and paste.
>
> 6. Have at least 8 gig of storage.
>
> 7. Have manual volume control (preferably with a peak limiter) as well as 
> automatic volume control.  With the automatic control, it
> should preferably have buffer ahead checking so that the volume can be 
> adjusted without distorting on loud sounds.
>
> 8. Operate from mains power via a power pack or on batteries.
>
> 9. And most important, be fully or close to fully accessible to a totally 
> blind person.
>
> Price is not really an issue.  If there isn't anything which exactly 
> satisfies my needs, but there is something which comes close,
> please let me know.
>
> Thanks,
> Barry Chapman
>
>
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Re: New podcast concerning the new talking iPod Nano.

[constantine (on laptop)]

Hi

I spent 600 bucks for an ipod video 30 gb a while back. I also have a victor 
reader stream. Now, of course, ipods are totally overpriced compared with 
mainstream mp3 players. I don't know why, but a 2 gb ipod costs twice as 
much as a 4 gb regular mp3 player. The stream? I love the thing. I'll never 
be without it. It can do so much and its half the price of that ipod.

The ipod stil rules in terms of music playback, since I put rockbox on it (I 
recommend that to anyone, too, you can get a sandisc sansa mp3 player and 
they work darn good.)

The streams audio recording might be a bit bad, but who cares! It kills the 
book port and many other mp3 players I've used, and I don't think humanware 
put much work into it- and I mean that as a compliment. Humanware did such a 
great job on that thing that the stream is now my book port- I'll take it 
wherever I go. The ipod, too, because they both have there uses. I think now 
that this ipod might just be what us blind folks are looking for in the 
accessibility longterm- as long as apple keeps providing speech feedback, 
anyway. Maybe other mp3 player venders might start doing the same- afterall, 
think about it. Sited people could use the speech feedback to there 
advantage- while driving, while running, while working out at the gym.





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Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 2:14 PM
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> Is it possible that you tried the Stream's MP3 capabilities before they
> added independent bass and treble control for music? The Stream was
> designed first and foremost as a book reader, and its music capabilities
> are kind of a work in progress. You won't find a better player anywhere
> for Audible content, there are the NLS books (applicable for Americans
> only), its DAISY capabilities are second to none, and for something so
> small, the voice recorder feature is absolutely fantastic. It's not
> everyone's answer, of course, people have different needs depending on
> geography, lifestyle, and financial considerations, but it is one answer
> that has worked and does work for many.
>
> bruce
>
> -- 
> Bruce Toews
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> Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
>
> On Sat, 20 Sep 2008, Dave McElroy WA6BEF wrote:
>
>> The stream is a great product, but I have to say that I don't think its 
>> MP3
>> quality is that hot.  Admittedly, I've not played many others, so it is
>> certainly possible that they are all the same.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
>> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 12:36 PM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: New podcast concerning the new talking iPod Nano.
>>
>> The problem I have with these devices is the same old 1 and that comes
>> down to how much money you have.
>>
>> If you can't afford an Ipod Nano (and I accept that perhaps you can't)
>> , then there are some other great alternatives out there and I
>> mention this just to show that I'm not bias towards Apple Ipods in any
>> way but what I do have a bias against are products which are so
>> expensive in order that they be accessible, in other words products
>> exclusively designed for the blind but that's another topic for
>> another day .
>>
>> First, take a look at the Creative Zenstone line of players and (even
>> better than that I'm told) take a look at some of the Sandisk players.
>>
>> Now if you want an Ipod that's perfectly accessible then perhaps you
>> can take a look at one of the Shuffles, if you can use a CD player
>> then you can certainly have a good shuffle.
>>
>>
>> On 20/09/2008, at 3:53 AM, Rick Harmon wrote:
>>
>>> The stream rules totally.  I love it and would recommend it highly
>>> as well.
>>>
>>> Rick
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 1:50 PM
>>> Subject: Re: New podcast concerning the new talking iPod Nano.
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm not Jonathan, though I know he'll be able to offer you some great
>>> advice too. I can't recommend highly enough the Victor Reader
>>> Stream. It
>>> may be overkill for what you want, but it is small, easy to use, 100%
>>> accessible, and works very well with music, boks, podcasts, and the
>>> like. You can hook your thumb drive right into it if you want to,
>

Re: another skype question

[constantine (on laptop)]

Hi,

Go into the view menu, hit up aro once or twice, when your screen reader 
says accessibility, hit enter on that. Make sure both of those boxes are 
checked (keyboard navigation and simplified graphics), and do the following 
to make sure your volume isn't low:

1. Go to the tools menu by hitting alt t.
2. Press p for options.
3. Go down once, you should hear audio options. Now tab twice until you hear 
microphone volume: 0 percent.
4. Hit right aro, or more acurately hold it down, jaws will stil say 0 
percent but it should be at 100.
5. Tab a few more times until you hear speaker volume. Again, hold down your 
right aro. By the way, this is a good time to mention it. If let skype 
control your audio is checked, it really does screw up your audio devices. 
So I recommend having this unchecked. (With my USB headset, it kept turning 
the microphone volume down so I kept getting frustrated until I finally 
realized). It really makes your system go bonkers, some of the time- but for 
some people can work wonders.

Now, tab over to save, and you should be good to go. Also be sure and check 
in sounds and audio devices to make sure your microphone isn't muted. Make 
sure its at 100 percent, too- I keep mine there. I'd rather people here me a 
bit too much than not at all.

Hope that helps


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> hello friends, i have just downloaded the latest version of skype, but 
> when
> i try to call people i can't hear anything, normally i hear the ringing
> tone, and then the person answering, but now, i can't hear anything,but 
> when
> i called a friend tonight using my skype out contact, i could  not hear
> anything, yet her phone rang and when she answered it there was silence, i
> think i may have something turned off or volume really low, how do i bring
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Re: Victor Wave

[constantine (on laptop)]

Your friend is mistaken, then;

The victor wave is a daisy player/cd player, shaped like a compact personal 
cd player; in other words, a walkman with daisy capabilities. What daisy is?

Well, you can go to page number, if the book has that capability; switch 
between skipping chapters, phrases, pages or paragraphs. This all, of 
course, depends on weather or not the cd has the capability but at the 
least, you can move between chapters and phrases. The other thing about this 
nifty player if the fact it has USB connectivity to the computer, for 
downloading firmware updates- there are no more, however, because this unit 
is now beeing replaced with the victor reader stream, which I own and love.




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> Hi all,
>
> I hope everyone had a nice summer.
>
> Does anyone  know anything about the Victor Wave?  Last night, my friend
> told me that it is supposed to be a combination cd player/card readr.
>
> Have a nice evening.
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Re: olympus digital recorder

[constantine (on laptop)]

I'm pretty sure the ds models in general have voice guidance. I got shown a 
ds30, and most of the things talked.




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> Oh ok thanks sorry it took sometime getting back to you I am just ketching
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>
>> Hello:
>>
>> The Olympus DS-50 is the only 1 I'm aware of that has voice guidance.
>> Please
>> check our newsletter for updates on hardware products and software.
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>> Subject: olympus digital recorder
>>
>> What is the newest olympus digital recorder out there and how much 
>> storage
>> space does it have.  Right now I have the DS50 so I am wondering if any
>> new
>> recorders came out since then.
>>
>>
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