Re: Hi-fi soundcard

2009-11-04 Thread Kevin Lloyd

Hi Andy.

What you're doing at the moment is having your Yamaha AV unit do the digital 
to analogue conversion for you and the sound blaster is purely transfering 
the digital signal from your computer to the AV unit.  The Musical Fidelity 
V-DAC would be doing the digital to analogue conversion instead of the 
Yamaha and so it would be a direct comparison between the two.  I would 
suspect little difference in the sound quality.


If you were using analogue output from the sound blaster I would expect the 
V-DAC would do a much better job as it is a discreet piece of hi-fi kit that 
is powered separately and is built specifically for high quality music 
reproduction.


Regards.

Kevin
E-mail: kevin.llo...@sky.com
- Original Message - 
From: "Andy" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 7:46 PM
Subject: Re: Hi-fi soundcard


Hi Kevin.

I had a look at this device as I'm thinking of an alternative to my Creative
Soundblaster 24 bit external card.

At the moment, I have my Soundblaster sending the audio file via it's optic
out, into a Yamaha AV unit.  The quality of the sound is really very good.

The V-DAC has an analogue output, which would simply go into my CD phono
inputs on the Yamaha.

Kevin, I thought that the quality of Optic was much better than Phono?  Are
you saying that the V-DAC, plugged into my computer's USB and to my CD
Phono's on the AV unit are as good or better than the Soundblaster with it's
optic output to the AV unit?


Very best wishes.

Andy.


- Original Message - 
From: "Kevin Lloyd" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 9:23 AM
Subject: Re: Hi-fi soundcard



Yes, if you're looking for pure high quality playback then I'd recommend the
Musical Fidelity V-DAC.  This is a real piece of hi-fi kit produced by a
well respected hi-fi brand rather than a piece of computer kit.  It will
connect via USB and can be bought for approx. £150 from www.superfi.co.uk

Regards.

Kevin
E-mail: kevin.llo...@sky.com
- Original Message - 
From: "André van Deventer" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 9:14 PM
Subject: RE: Hi-fi soundcard


Speaking of high sound quality - I would be in the market for a very good
digital to analog converter simply to use my computer connected to a good
stereo system.

Is there anything better than the xitel for example?

Andre



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On Behalf Of Bue Vester-Andersen
Sent: 31 October 2009 11:18 PM
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Subject: SV: Hi-fi soundcard

Hi John,

Thanks for the advice. I must admit that I discarded the Sound blaster cards
in advance. I suppose the digital connections will be ok, since a bit is a
bit. However, their d/a-converters don't have a very good reputation with
me. Maybe they have improved, or maybe I am just prejudiced, but I was
originally going for a more high-end solution. Do Sound blaster actually
make high-end cards, or is is it just gaming and surround stuff, like I
thought it was? Are there any good alternatives?

Best regards
Bue

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Emne: Re: Hi-fi soundcard

Hello,
All of the sound cards made by sound blaster can and will do what you need
them to do.
Check them all out at:
http://www.soundblaster.com
my best regards to you!
 John.
----- Original Message -
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To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 3:01 PM
Subject: Hi-fi soundcard



Hi.

Can anyone help me?
I need a high-end hi-fi soundcard with an accessible configuration
interface and that is compatible with Windows 7. It is going to sit in
my hi-fi pc, so I don't really need surround sound or 64 channels..
All i really need is stereo analogue and digital inputs and outputs
and a card that will do the job and do it really well.

Best regards
Bue


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Re: Hi-fi soundcard

2009-11-03 Thread Andy

Hi Kevin.

I had a look at this device as I'm thinking of an alternative to my Creative 
Soundblaster 24 bit external card.


At the moment, I have my Soundblaster sending the audio file via it's optic 
out, into a Yamaha AV unit.  The quality of the sound is really very good.


The V-DAC has an analogue output, which would simply go into my CD phono 
inputs on the Yamaha.


Kevin, I thought that the quality of Optic was much better than Phono?  Are 
you saying that the V-DAC, plugged into my computer's USB and to my CD 
Phono's on the AV unit are as good or better than the Soundblaster with it's 
optic output to the AV unit?



Very best wishes.

Andy.


- Original Message - 
From: "Kevin Lloyd" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 9:23 AM
Subject: Re: Hi-fi soundcard



Yes, if you're looking for pure high quality playback then I'd recommend the
Musical Fidelity V-DAC.  This is a real piece of hi-fi kit produced by a
well respected hi-fi brand rather than a piece of computer kit.  It will
connect via USB and can be bought for approx. £150 from www.superfi.co.uk

Regards.

Kevin
E-mail: kevin.llo...@sky.com
- Original Message - 
From: "André van Deventer" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 9:14 PM
Subject: RE: Hi-fi soundcard


Speaking of high sound quality - I would be in the market for a very good
digital to analog converter simply to use my computer connected to a good
stereo system.

Is there anything better than the xitel for example?

Andre



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From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Bue Vester-Andersen
Sent: 31 October 2009 11:18 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: SV: Hi-fi soundcard

Hi John,

Thanks for the advice. I must admit that I discarded the Sound blaster cards
in advance. I suppose the digital connections will be ok, since a bit is a
bit. However, their d/a-converters don't have a very good reputation with
me. Maybe they have improved, or maybe I am just prejudiced, but I was
originally going for a more high-end solution. Do Sound blaster actually
make high-end cards, or is is it just gaming and surround stuff, like I
thought it was? Are there any good alternatives?

Best regards
Bue

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Emne: Re: Hi-fi soundcard

Hello,
All of the sound cards made by sound blaster can and will do what you need
them to do.
Check them all out at:
http://www.soundblaster.com
my best regards to you!
 John.
- Original Message -
From: "Bue Vester-Andersen" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 3:01 PM
Subject: Hi-fi soundcard



Hi.

Can anyone help me?
I need a high-end hi-fi soundcard with an accessible configuration
interface and that is compatible with Windows 7. It is going to sit in
my hi-fi pc, so I don't really need surround sound or 64 channels..
All i really need is stereo analogue and digital inputs and outputs
and a card that will do the job and do it really well.

Best regards
Bue


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SV: Hi-fi soundcard

2009-11-02 Thread Bue Vester-Andersen
Hi,

I think this is exactly  what I am looking for, providing that it can
convert both ways at minimum 96 KHz / 24 bits. I'll definitely go and
explore it tomorrow.

Best regards and thanks a lot
Bue


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Sendt: 2. november 2009 10:24
Til: PC Audio Discussion List
Emne: Re: Hi-fi soundcard

Yes, if you're looking for pure high quality playback then I'd recommend the
Musical Fidelity V-DAC.  This is a real piece of hi-fi kit produced by a
well respected hi-fi brand rather than a piece of computer kit.  It will
connect via USB and can be bought for approx. £150 from www.superfi.co.uk

Regards.

Kevin
E-mail: kevin.llo...@sky.com
- Original Message -
From: "André van Deventer" 
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 9:14 PM
Subject: RE: Hi-fi soundcard


Speaking of high sound quality - I would be in the market for a very good
digital to analog converter simply to use my computer connected to a good
stereo system.

Is there anything better than the xitel for example?

Andre



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On Behalf Of Bue Vester-Andersen
Sent: 31 October 2009 11:18 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: SV: Hi-fi soundcard

Hi John,

Thanks for the advice. I must admit that I discarded the Sound blaster cards
in advance. I suppose the digital connections will be ok, since a bit is a
bit. However, their d/a-converters don't have a very good reputation with
me. Maybe they have improved, or maybe I am just prejudiced, but I was
originally going for a more high-end solution. Do Sound blaster actually
make high-end cards, or is is it just gaming and surround stuff, like I
thought it was? Are there any good alternatives?

Best regards
Bue

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Emne: Re: Hi-fi soundcard

Hello,
All of the sound cards made by sound blaster can and will do what you need
them to do.
Check them all out at:
http://www.soundblaster.com
my best regards to you!
  John.
- Original Message -
From: "Bue Vester-Andersen" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 3:01 PM
Subject: Hi-fi soundcard


> Hi.
>
> Can anyone help me?
> I need a high-end hi-fi soundcard with an accessible configuration
> interface and that is compatible with Windows 7. It is going to sit in
> my hi-fi pc, so I don't really need surround sound or 64 channels..
> All i really need is stereo analogue and digital inputs and outputs
> and a card that will do the job and do it really well.
>
> Best regards
> Bue
>
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Re: Hi-fi soundcard

2009-11-02 Thread Brent Harding
That's it's only problem, it kind of uses that thing that Creative used that 
isn't real accessible. I can do what I need through the volume control in 
windows, but there's probably things in that panel that aren't accessible 
like environmental effects and so on.


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From: "Robert Logue" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 5:55 AM
Subject: Re: Hi-fi soundcard


Hi Brent. How is the software control pannel for the turtle beach Montego
DDL?

Bob

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From: "Brent Harding" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 7:30 PM
Subject: Re: Hi-fi soundcard


My turtle beach Montego DDL sounds quite good compared to the SBLive I had
in my old machine. It has optical in and out, a mic in, line in, line out,
and a couple other jacks I'm not sure what for. I think those are surround,
wouldn't it be nice if one could just have an extra wave device in Windows
to just use them as separate output of something completely different.

- Original Message - 
From: "Robert Nelson" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 4:20 AM
Subject: Re: Hi-fi soundcard








This thread made me wonder  just what audio interfaces are available these
days.



Browsing the page shown below shows that there are quite a few audio
interfaces available but they are not necessarily hi fi sound cards.



However, it seems that most hi fi sound cards these days come with only one
input which doubles as microphone input and line input and a headphone jack.
If you are prepared to go the extra mile, you might get a SP/DIFF output.



Are we being forced to buy audio interfaces like those listed below just to
get something we can simultaneously plug a microphone and input from a
recorder?



Could it be that manufacturers think that we should be content with glorious
surround sound and not be creative?



Given the needs of so many people creating podcasts, you would think that
there would be more  sound cards with multiple inputs and outputs but it
seems that people who want to do that are being pushed in the direction of
the audio interfaces listed below.



Browse this site to read about some very interesting audio gear-



http://www.electricroom.com.au/catalog/Computer+Audio



USB Audio Interfaces



MidiTech Phonoface - USB Phono Preamp and Restoration Software



With the Phonoface you can easily digitise your analogue sound sources.
Thanks to its specialist phono preamplification, the Phonoface is able to
digitise records at an optimal quality. Using the switching arrangement you
can also attach LINE level devices, e.g. music cassette decks or CD players.
With the included restoration software - Magix "Music Cleaning Lab" you have
the capability to edit previously digitised music or speech.

$ 79.00



MOTU Fastlane USB MIDI Interface



The professional MIDI interface for your home studio: FastLane is a simple 2
input, 2 output, 32-MIDI channel interface for Macintosh and Windows. It
installs in seconds and opens your computer to a world of music software.
FastLane's unique advantage: a MIDI thru button allows you to play to your
gear even when your computer is turned off-without having to disconnect
cables. No other USB interface offers this feature for this price.

$ 122.00



M-Audio Transit USB - High Resolution Mobile Audio Interface



Compatible with ProTools M-Powered Software and small enough to fit in your
pocket, Transit brings hi-resolution 24-bit/96kHz recording and playback to
any USB-compatible computer. Digital I/O lets you transfer pristine audio
between your computer and other devices such as MiniDisc and DAT. Transit is
your ticket to ride.

$139.00







M-Audio Fast Track USB - 24-bit 48kHz Portable Interface



Compatible with ProTools M-Powered Software, the Fast Track USB is also a
great choice if you make music with GarageBand or other software recording
programs, and require professional results. Just connect Fast Track USB to
the USB port of your computer and you're ready to rock. GT Player Express
also plays standard audio files like AAC, MP3 and WAV that let you learn and
jam along with your favorite music at variable speeds.

$ 157.50



Edirol UA-1G - Portable USB Audio Interface



24-bit 96kHz The UA-1G is a compact 1 x 1 USB Audio Interface that offers
excellent-quality sound via multiple connection options and a simple,
user-friendly design.

$ 157.50



ART Tube MP Project Series with USB



The Tube MP Project Series is a professional quality audio interface that
lets you connect microphone, instrument, and line level signals to audio
inputs to digital audio workstations as well as standard analog devices.

$ 169.00



Icon Cube Mini - Ultra Compact 2x2 Audio Interface 24-bit 192kHz



An ideal cross-platform, bus-powered audio recording solution, the

Re: Hi-fi soundcard

2009-11-02 Thread Robert Logue
Hi Brent. How is the software control pannel for the turtle beach Montego 
DDL?


Bob

- Original Message - 
From: "Brent Harding" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 7:30 PM
Subject: Re: Hi-fi soundcard


My turtle beach Montego DDL sounds quite good compared to the SBLive I had
in my old machine. It has optical in and out, a mic in, line in, line out,
and a couple other jacks I'm not sure what for. I think those are surround,
wouldn't it be nice if one could just have an extra wave device in Windows
to just use them as separate output of something completely different.

- Original Message - 
From: "Robert Nelson" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 4:20 AM
Subject: Re: Hi-fi soundcard








This thread made me wonder  just what audio interfaces are available these
days.



Browsing the page shown below shows that there are quite a few audio
interfaces available but they are not necessarily hi fi sound cards.



However, it seems that most hi fi sound cards these days come with only one
input which doubles as microphone input and line input and a headphone jack.
If you are prepared to go the extra mile, you might get a SP/DIFF output.



Are we being forced to buy audio interfaces like those listed below just to
get something we can simultaneously plug a microphone and input from a
recorder?



Could it be that manufacturers think that we should be content with glorious
surround sound and not be creative?



Given the needs of so many people creating podcasts, you would think that
there would be more  sound cards with multiple inputs and outputs but it
seems that people who want to do that are being pushed in the direction of
the audio interfaces listed below.



Browse this site to read about some very interesting audio gear-



http://www.electricroom.com.au/catalog/Computer+Audio



USB Audio Interfaces



MidiTech Phonoface - USB Phono Preamp and Restoration Software



With the Phonoface you can easily digitise your analogue sound sources.
Thanks to its specialist phono preamplification, the Phonoface is able to
digitise records at an optimal quality. Using the switching arrangement you
can also attach LINE level devices, e.g. music cassette decks or CD players.
With the included restoration software - Magix "Music Cleaning Lab" you have
the capability to edit previously digitised music or speech.

$ 79.00



MOTU Fastlane USB MIDI Interface



The professional MIDI interface for your home studio: FastLane is a simple 2
input, 2 output, 32-MIDI channel interface for Macintosh and Windows. It
installs in seconds and opens your computer to a world of music software.
FastLane's unique advantage: a MIDI thru button allows you to play to your
gear even when your computer is turned off-without having to disconnect
cables. No other USB interface offers this feature for this price.

$ 122.00



M-Audio Transit USB - High Resolution Mobile Audio Interface



Compatible with ProTools M-Powered Software and small enough to fit in your
pocket, Transit brings hi-resolution 24-bit/96kHz recording and playback to
any USB-compatible computer. Digital I/O lets you transfer pristine audio
between your computer and other devices such as MiniDisc and DAT. Transit is
your ticket to ride.

$139.00







M-Audio Fast Track USB - 24-bit 48kHz Portable Interface



Compatible with ProTools M-Powered Software, the Fast Track USB is also a
great choice if you make music with GarageBand or other software recording
programs, and require professional results. Just connect Fast Track USB to
the USB port of your computer and you're ready to rock. GT Player Express
also plays standard audio files like AAC, MP3 and WAV that let you learn and
jam along with your favorite music at variable speeds.

$ 157.50



Edirol UA-1G - Portable USB Audio Interface



24-bit 96kHz The UA-1G is a compact 1 x 1 USB Audio Interface that offers
excellent-quality sound via multiple connection options and a simple,
user-friendly design.

$ 157.50



ART Tube MP Project Series with USB



The Tube MP Project Series is a professional quality audio interface that
lets you connect microphone, instrument, and line level signals to audio
inputs to digital audio workstations as well as standard analog devices.

$ 169.00



Icon Cube Mini - Ultra Compact 2x2 Audio Interface 24-bit 192kHz



An ideal cross-platform, bus-powered audio recording solution, the Icon Cube
Mini is only 9cm x 9cm in size! Includes full duplex recording and playback
facility, as well as support for Direct Sound, ASIO 2.0 and WDM.

$179.00



ART USB Dual Pre - 2 Channel Portable Preamp with USB



The USB Dual Pre is a full-featured high quality dual portable preamplifier
and computer interface packed into a compact rugged case. It is designed to
work over a variety of applications such as remote field recording and
desktop/studio track

Re: Hi-fi soundcard

2009-11-02 Thread Kevin Lloyd
Yes, if you're looking for pure high quality playback then I'd recommend the 
Musical Fidelity V-DAC.  This is a real piece of hi-fi kit produced by a 
well respected hi-fi brand rather than a piece of computer kit.  It will 
connect via USB and can be bought for approx. £150 from www.superfi.co.uk


Regards.

Kevin
E-mail: kevin.llo...@sky.com
- Original Message - 
From: "André van Deventer" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 9:14 PM
Subject: RE: Hi-fi soundcard


Speaking of high sound quality - I would be in the market for a very good
digital to analog converter simply to use my computer connected to a good
stereo system.

Is there anything better than the xitel for example?

Andre



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On Behalf Of Bue Vester-Andersen
Sent: 31 October 2009 11:18 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: SV: Hi-fi soundcard

Hi John,

Thanks for the advice. I must admit that I discarded the Sound blaster cards
in advance. I suppose the digital connections will be ok, since a bit is a
bit. However, their d/a-converters don't have a very good reputation with
me. Maybe they have improved, or maybe I am just prejudiced, but I was
originally going for a more high-end solution. Do Sound blaster actually
make high-end cards, or is is it just gaming and surround stuff, like I
thought it was? Are there any good alternatives?

Best regards
Bue

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Til: PC Audio Discussion List
Emne: Re: Hi-fi soundcard

Hello,
All of the sound cards made by sound blaster can and will do what you need
them to do.
Check them all out at:
http://www.soundblaster.com
my best regards to you!
 John.
- Original Message -
From: "Bue Vester-Andersen" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 3:01 PM
Subject: Hi-fi soundcard



Hi.

Can anyone help me?
I need a high-end hi-fi soundcard with an accessible configuration
interface and that is compatible with Windows 7. It is going to sit in
my hi-fi pc, so I don't really need surround sound or 64 channels..
All i really need is stereo analogue and digital inputs and outputs
and a card that will do the job and do it really well.

Best regards
Bue


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Re: Hi-fi soundcard

2009-11-02 Thread Tim Crawford
You'll find quite a few of the newer hi-fi dacs have a usb input expressly 
for this purpose.  You could have a look at the musical fidelity and Arcam 
dacs which I think both have usb options.


Cheers,

Tim.

- Original Message - 
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To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 9:14 PM
Subject: RE: Hi-fi soundcard


Speaking of high sound quality - I would be in the market for a very good
digital to analog converter simply to use my computer connected to a good
stereo system.

Is there anything better than the xitel for example?

Andre



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Sent: 31 October 2009 11:18 PM
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Subject: SV: Hi-fi soundcard

Hi John,

Thanks for the advice. I must admit that I discarded the Sound blaster cards
in advance. I suppose the digital connections will be ok, since a bit is a
bit. However, their d/a-converters don't have a very good reputation with
me. Maybe they have improved, or maybe I am just prejudiced, but I was
originally going for a more high-end solution. Do Sound blaster actually
make high-end cards, or is is it just gaming and surround stuff, like I
thought it was? Are there any good alternatives?

Best regards
Bue

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Hello,
All of the sound cards made by sound blaster can and will do what you need
them to do.
Check them all out at:
http://www.soundblaster.com
my best regards to you!
 John.
- Original Message -
From: "Bue Vester-Andersen" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 3:01 PM
Subject: Hi-fi soundcard



Hi.

Can anyone help me?
I need a high-end hi-fi soundcard with an accessible configuration
interface and that is compatible with Windows 7. It is going to sit in
my hi-fi pc, so I don't really need surround sound or 64 channels..
All i really need is stereo analogue and digital inputs and outputs
and a card that will do the job and do it really well.

Best regards
Bue


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Re: Hi-fi soundcard

2009-11-02 Thread Tim Crawford

Hi Andy,

I honestly couldn't say if there would be any issues with the trends audio 
device under vista.  I'm using it with an xp system, and found no problems 
at all, the unit requiring no drivers to be installed, setup was very 
simple.


I purchased it from a company called desktop audio near manchester, where 
the guy was very helpful in answering any questions.


Best regards,

Tim.

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From: "Andy" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 7:46 PM
Subject: Re: Hi-fi soundcard



Hi Tim.

This device sounds like something I'd be very much interested in.

I've been using the Soundblaster for several years to take the optic from 
my computer to my Arcam AV.  Not too bothered about recording at this 
time, so an output device would seem to meet my needs.


Dio you know if this unit has any problems with VISTA?, or does it work 
better on XP Home computers?  Finally, do you know if it's available here 
in Scotland?


I've been a lover of Creative for some years now but feel that they are 
not longer interested.  This is why I'm interested in other similar 
devices.


Very best wishes.
Andy.
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To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: Hi-fi soundcard




Hi Bue,

I'm using a little device here called the UD10.1 audio converter from 
Trends audio.  It connects to your pc via usb, and has a variety of 
outputs including both optical and coaxual s-pdif, XLR, and BNC.  The 
3.5mm headphone socket also doubles as a line output, and provides phono 
out by means of a 3.5mm to RCA connector.


I have the ud-10.1 feeding a Beresford DAC, via the coax digital out, 
which in turn connects to the amplifier with good quality rca 
interconnects.


My music files are in lossless flac format, and I am very happy with the 
results, with sound quality being as good as, and probably better than my 
Arcam Alpha 9 cd player.


I should say that the ud-10.1 is solely an output device, so if you wish 
to record, another method would have to be considered.


Best regards,

Tim.

I --- Original Message - 
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To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 7:01 PM
Subject: Hi-fi soundcard



Hi.

Can anyone help me?
I need a high-end hi-fi soundcard with an accessible configuration 
interface
and that is compatible with Windows 7. It is going to sit in my hi-fi 
pc, so

I don't really need surround sound or 64 channels.. All i really need is
stereo analogue and digital inputs and outputs and a card that will do 
the

job and do it really well.

Best regards
Bue


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Re: Hi-fi soundcard

2009-11-02 Thread Brian Olesen

hi john,
if your stereo costs $ 5000 or more then this could be a good investment.

Brian
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Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 11:25 PM
Subject: Re: Hi-fi soundcard


Hello all,
I have been doing some digging on vacuum tube sound cards, and this is what
I've found.
I found a tube amplifier that has a USB inter face that bypasses your
computer's sound card.
It has a 24 bit 156 kHz DAT converter.
But it is kind of pricy.
This unit sails for $750
I will get back to you with the link to this thing later.
My best regards!
 John- Original Message - 
From: "André van Deventer" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 4:14 PM
Subject: RE: Hi-fi soundcard


Speaking of high sound quality - I would be in the market for a very good
digital to analog converter simply to use my computer connected to a good
stereo system.

Is there anything better than the xitel for example?

Andre



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On Behalf Of Bue Vester-Andersen
Sent: 31 October 2009 11:18 PM
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Subject: SV: Hi-fi soundcard

Hi John,

Thanks for the advice. I must admit that I discarded the Sound blaster cards
in advance. I suppose the digital connections will be ok, since a bit is a
bit. However, their d/a-converters don't have a very good reputation with
me. Maybe they have improved, or maybe I am just prejudiced, but I was
originally going for a more high-end solution. Do Sound blaster actually
make high-end cards, or is is it just gaming and surround stuff, like I
thought it was? Are there any good alternatives?

Best regards
Bue

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Emne: Re: Hi-fi soundcard

Hello,
All of the sound cards made by sound blaster can and will do what you need
them to do.
Check them all out at:
http://www.soundblaster.com
my best regards to you!
 John.
- Original Message -
From: "Bue Vester-Andersen" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 3:01 PM
Subject: Hi-fi soundcard



Hi.

Can anyone help me?
I need a high-end hi-fi soundcard with an accessible configuration
interface and that is compatible with Windows 7. It is going to sit in
my hi-fi pc, so I don't really need surround sound or 64 channels..
All i really need is stereo analogue and digital inputs and outputs
and a card that will do the job and do it really well.

Best regards
Bue


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Re: Hi-fi soundcard

2009-11-01 Thread Sunshine
actually the tube idea will give a more warmer sound plus mor
definition

 to the sound spectrum.
this way the sound that is reproduced is a natural sound and not colorized 
by any dsp processing.  the concept of the tube/valve  idea is that withthe 
sound  frequency's this will help define the sound carestrics and  bring out 
that classic sound, whild digital sound is good  you have to admit that a 
warmer sound is coming back in todays music,  since the british sound has 
been coming back. the  tube idea is a really good one and one that I believe 
will go over quite nicely- Original Message - 
From: "Brent Harding" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 7:35 PM
Subject: Re: Hi-fi soundcard


I thought I found that online somewhere that the valve thing is just what
the British call tubes. I thought Adam Curry's idea on his shows in the
earlier days when he said he used a "stereo valve processor" litterally
meant the name of the device, when in fact, all it is was a generalization
of any device that processed the stereo signal leaving the board that may
have had tubes in it.

- Original Message - 
From: "Ray" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 4:43 PM
Subject: Re: Hi-fi soundcard


For anyone in the UK who just might possibly not know, read "valves" for
"tubes".

Yes, a warm sound indeed, LOL!  In fact the mic pre-amp attached to this
speaker has a valve, um, "tube" in it's front end.  I'm old enough to
remember
valve equipment and we weren't sorry to see it go by and large as it tended
to
be unreliable.

Space might be a bit of an issue, but I imagine mounting within slots
sideways
in the printed circuit board an internal card wouldn't present a real
problem.
 External cards don't raise an issue here.

Ray

djdoctorp wrote:
High once again,
I don't know how true this is, but I hear that Sound Blaster is coming out
with a card that uses a pare of 12AX7 tubes for the line out, and a pare of
12AU7 tubes for the line and mike ins.
Word has it that this card will be out some time next year.
If that happens, then I won't need a preamp that has tubes to get that warm
sound transferred from my old records and cassettes.
I am wondering 2 things.
For starters, how will the card with tubes and all fit in to any desktop
computer?
And how much will it cost?
My best regards!
  John.
- Original Message -----
From: "Bue Vester-Andersen" 
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 5:18 PM
Subject: SV: Hi-fi soundcard


Hi John,

Thanks for the advice. I must admit that I discarded the Sound blaster
cards in advance. I suppose the digital connections will be ok, since a bit
is a bit. However, their d/a-converters don't have a very good reputation
with me. Maybe they have improved, or maybe I am just prejudiced, but I was
originally going for a more high-end solution. Do Sound blaster actually
make high-end cards, or is is it just gaming and surround stuff, like I
thought it was? Are there any good alternatives?

Best regards
Bue

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Emne: Re: Hi-fi soundcard

Hello,
All of the sound cards made by sound blaster can and will do what you need
them to do.
Check them all out at:
http://www.soundblaster.com
my best regards to you!
  John.
- Original Message -----
From: "Bue Vester-Andersen" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 3:01 PM
Subject: Hi-fi soundcard


> Hi.
>
> Can anyone help me?
> I need a high-end hi-fi soundcard with an accessible configuration
> interface and that is compatible with Windows 7. It is going to sit in
> my hi-fi pc, so I don't really need surround sound or 64 channels..
> All i really need is stereo analogue and digital inputs and outputs
> and a card that will do the job and do it really well.
>
> Best regards
> Bue
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Re: Hi-fi soundcard

2009-11-01 Thread Brent Harding
My turtle beach Montego DDL sounds quite good compared to the SBLive I had 
in my old machine. It has optical in and out, a mic in, line in, line out, 
and a couple other jacks I'm not sure what for. I think those are surround, 
wouldn't it be nice if one could just have an extra wave device in Windows 
to just use them as separate output of something completely different.


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To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 4:20 AM
Subject: Re: Hi-fi soundcard








This thread made me wonder  just what audio interfaces are available these
days.



Browsing the page shown below shows that there are quite a few audio
interfaces available but they are not necessarily hi fi sound cards.



However, it seems that most hi fi sound cards these days come with only one
input which doubles as microphone input and line input and a headphone jack.
If you are prepared to go the extra mile, you might get a SP/DIFF output.



Are we being forced to buy audio interfaces like those listed below just to
get something we can simultaneously plug a microphone and input from a
recorder?



Could it be that manufacturers think that we should be content with glorious
surround sound and not be creative?



Given the needs of so many people creating podcasts, you would think that
there would be more  sound cards with multiple inputs and outputs but it
seems that people who want to do that are being pushed in the direction of
the audio interfaces listed below.



Browse this site to read about some very interesting audio gear-



http://www.electricroom.com.au/catalog/Computer+Audio



USB Audio Interfaces



MidiTech Phonoface - USB Phono Preamp and Restoration Software



With the Phonoface you can easily digitise your analogue sound sources.
Thanks to its specialist phono preamplification, the Phonoface is able to
digitise records at an optimal quality. Using the switching arrangement you
can also attach LINE level devices, e.g. music cassette decks or CD players.
With the included restoration software - Magix "Music Cleaning Lab" you have
the capability to edit previously digitised music or speech.

$ 79.00



MOTU Fastlane USB MIDI Interface



The professional MIDI interface for your home studio: FastLane is a simple 2
input, 2 output, 32-MIDI channel interface for Macintosh and Windows. It
installs in seconds and opens your computer to a world of music software.
FastLane's unique advantage: a MIDI thru button allows you to play to your
gear even when your computer is turned off-without having to disconnect
cables. No other USB interface offers this feature for this price.

$ 122.00



M-Audio Transit USB - High Resolution Mobile Audio Interface



Compatible with ProTools M-Powered Software and small enough to fit in your
pocket, Transit brings hi-resolution 24-bit/96kHz recording and playback to
any USB-compatible computer. Digital I/O lets you transfer pristine audio
between your computer and other devices such as MiniDisc and DAT. Transit is
your ticket to ride.

$139.00







M-Audio Fast Track USB - 24-bit 48kHz Portable Interface



Compatible with ProTools M-Powered Software, the Fast Track USB is also a
great choice if you make music with GarageBand or other software recording
programs, and require professional results. Just connect Fast Track USB to
the USB port of your computer and you're ready to rock. GT Player Express
also plays standard audio files like AAC, MP3 and WAV that let you learn and
jam along with your favorite music at variable speeds.

$ 157.50



Edirol UA-1G - Portable USB Audio Interface



24-bit 96kHz The UA-1G is a compact 1 x 1 USB Audio Interface that offers
excellent-quality sound via multiple connection options and a simple,
user-friendly design.

$ 157.50



ART Tube MP Project Series with USB



The Tube MP Project Series is a professional quality audio interface that
lets you connect microphone, instrument, and line level signals to audio
inputs to digital audio workstations as well as standard analog devices.

$ 169.00



Icon Cube Mini - Ultra Compact 2x2 Audio Interface 24-bit 192kHz



An ideal cross-platform, bus-powered audio recording solution, the Icon Cube
Mini is only 9cm x 9cm in size! Includes full duplex recording and playback
facility, as well as support for Direct Sound, ASIO 2.0 and WDM.

$179.00



ART USB Dual Pre - 2 Channel Portable Preamp with USB



The USB Dual Pre is a full-featured high quality dual portable preamplifier
and computer interface packed into a compact rugged case. It is designed to
work over a variety of applications such as remote field recording and
desktop/studio tracking. Each of the two low noise input channels has up to
48 dB of clean gain with signal present and clip LED indicators. Inputs can
be either XLR balanced or 1/4-inch TRS. Each of the 1/4-inch TRS outputs is
buffered low impedance balanced.

$ 189.00



ART U

Re: Hi-fi soundcard

2009-11-01 Thread Brent Harding
I thought I found that online somewhere that the valve thing is just what 
the British call tubes. I thought Adam Curry's idea on his shows in the 
earlier days when he said he used a "stereo valve processor" litterally 
meant the name of the device, when in fact, all it is was a generalization 
of any device that processed the stereo signal leaving the board that may 
have had tubes in it.


- Original Message - 
From: "Ray" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 4:43 PM
Subject: Re: Hi-fi soundcard


For anyone in the UK who just might possibly not know, read "valves" for 
"tubes".


Yes, a warm sound indeed, LOL!  In fact the mic pre-amp attached to this
speaker has a valve, um, "tube" in it's front end.  I'm old enough to 
remember
valve equipment and we weren't sorry to see it go by and large as it tended 
to

be unreliable.

Space might be a bit of an issue, but I imagine mounting within slots 
sideways
in the printed circuit board an internal card wouldn't present a real 
problem.

External cards don't raise an issue here.

Ray

djdoctorp wrote:
High once again,
I don't know how true this is, but I hear that Sound Blaster is coming out
with a card that uses a pare of 12AX7 tubes for the line out, and a pare of
12AU7 tubes for the line and mike ins.
Word has it that this card will be out some time next year.
If that happens, then I won't need a preamp that has tubes to get that warm
sound transferred from my old records and cassettes.
I am wondering 2 things.
For starters, how will the card with tubes and all fit in to any desktop
computer?
And how much will it cost?
My best regards!
 John.
- Original Message -
From: "Bue Vester-Andersen" 
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 5:18 PM
Subject: SV: Hi-fi soundcard


Hi John,

Thanks for the advice. I must admit that I discarded the Sound blaster
cards in advance. I suppose the digital connections will be ok, since a bit
is a bit. However, their d/a-converters don't have a very good reputation
with me. Maybe they have improved, or maybe I am just prejudiced, but I was
originally going for a more high-end solution. Do Sound blaster actually
make high-end cards, or is is it just gaming and surround stuff, like I
thought it was? Are there any good alternatives?

Best regards
Bue

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Til: PC Audio Discussion List
Emne: Re: Hi-fi soundcard

Hello,
All of the sound cards made by sound blaster can and will do what you need
them to do.
Check them all out at:
http://www.soundblaster.com
my best regards to you!
 John.
- Original Message -
From: "Bue Vester-Andersen" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 3:01 PM
Subject: Hi-fi soundcard



Hi.

Can anyone help me?
I need a high-end hi-fi soundcard with an accessible configuration
interface and that is compatible with Windows 7. It is going to sit in
my hi-fi pc, so I don't really need surround sound or 64 channels..
All i really need is stereo analogue and digital inputs and outputs
and a card that will do the job and do it really well.

Best regards
Bue


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Re: Hi-fi soundcard

2009-11-01 Thread Brent Harding
Well, I do notice that if people do Internet shows using on board sound 
cards, you can really hear the hiss from the mic out jacks. The cheapest 
solution to that problem is probably a USB headset mic, but then you get too 
much breathing in. You probably would need a higher end card to get better 
preamps for the mic, line out, etc. I would bet this tube card must be a USB 
device, not sure though.


- Original Message - 
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To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 8:12 PM
Subject: Re: Hi-fi soundcard


Putting vacuum tubes in a PC might sound a little like adding a hand crank
to a Porsche, but at least one company thinks it might be the future of
computer audio.
Taiwanese components company AOpen, part of the Acer Group, is selling a PC
audio card based on a vacuum tube--the same century-old technology that
sends electric guitar players and hi-fi aficionados into paroxysms of
listening delight.

The idea, according to AOpen, is to replicate the "warm" sound of
traditional tube-driven audio equipment inside PCs, which are increasingly
being used as stereos by digital music lovers. The company quietly released
a first version of the product in the United States in August, and an
updated version, now available in Taiwan, will reach U.S. shores in January,
just missing the holiday shopping season.

Will AOpen's audio card revolutionize PC audio? Unlikely, analysts say. But
the company's focus is one of a number of increasingly clear signs that the
intermingling of PCs with other household entertainment devices is steadily
marching along and that PCs are beginning to hold their own in terms of
quality.

"I wouldn't call (the tube-driven board) a novelty, but it certainly falls
into the enthusiast segment," said Dean McCarron, principal analyst for
Mercury Research, a firm covering the PC component market. "On the hi-fi
side, there are some very strong tube proponents."

Even if it remains an evolutionary--or devolutionary--dead-end, the
tube-driven audio card does help highlight an ongoing renaissance in PC
audio technology, driven by the prevalence of downloadable music and
musicians' growing use of inexpensive, powerful computers for home
recording.

The standalone audio card market was considerably stronger in the mid-1990s,
when companies like Creative Labs, with its Sound Blaster audio card, first
helped PCs become multimedia machines. But in 1997, technology for
integrating audio directly into a computer's motherboard became widespread,
and the standalone audio market soon collapsed. The ability to do
signal-processing functions inside software programs--once the exclusive
purview of hardware--also helped undermine audio card sales.

Most PCs today are sold with integrated audio capabilities that let
listeners play music, if not with particularly high-quality sound, without
any specialized hardware. Creative's Audigy and Sound Blaster lines of audio
cards still sell fairly well among game players and music lovers looking for
a richer sound, but the company continues to have only a fraction of the
market it commanded half a decade ago, McCarron said.

AOpen's card falls into a slightly different category, however. There's
already a long list of existing high-tech add-on equipment designed for
musicians creating PC music. But there are fewer high-end cards targeted
more specifically at hi-fi connoisseurs.

The company itself says the idea was initially a "lark," dreamed up by an
audiophile engineer in the course of a brainstorming session. But a lab test
of the idea convinced enough people that sound quality was noticeably
different that the company decided to produce the product.

According to product manager Richard Jen, the company has sold about 5000 of
the tube boards in the United States since August. They aren't available in
retail stores--the company distributes mostly through resellers, who in turn
sell the product for between $180 and $220.

Jen said the customer base has been split evenly between gamers and hi-fi
enthusiasts.

The idea has won both raves and jeers online. Audiophiles and sound
engineers in message boards have differed, often bitterly, on whether the
tube would make a difference to the sound. Tube amplification gives a
"fuzzier" sound, many say, and while that might make it sound "warmer" to
some ears, it would lack the precise reproduction of digital signals that a
good-quality computer audio codec can provide, critics say.



- Original Message ----- 
From: "djdoctorp" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 6:30 PM
Subject: Re: Hi-fi soundcard


High once again,
I don't know how true this is, but I hear that Sound Blaster is coming out
with a card that uses a pare of 12AX7 tubes for the line out, and a pare of
12AU7 tubes for the line and m

Re: Hi-fi soundcard

2009-11-01 Thread djdoctorp

Hello all,
Just as I promised in my last post, here is the link to that USB vacuum tube 
amp that I was telling you all about.

http://www.neuhauslabs.com/amplifiers/
I am wondering something about this though, can you record from this unit?
I will call them and ask them about that tomorrow.
My best regards to you all!
 John.
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To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 4:14 PM
Subject: RE: Hi-fi soundcard


Speaking of high sound quality - I would be in the market for a very good
digital to analog converter simply to use my computer connected to a good
stereo system.

Is there anything better than the xitel for example?

Andre



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On Behalf Of Bue Vester-Andersen
Sent: 31 October 2009 11:18 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: SV: Hi-fi soundcard

Hi John,

Thanks for the advice. I must admit that I discarded the Sound blaster cards
in advance. I suppose the digital connections will be ok, since a bit is a
bit. However, their d/a-converters don't have a very good reputation with
me. Maybe they have improved, or maybe I am just prejudiced, but I was
originally going for a more high-end solution. Do Sound blaster actually
make high-end cards, or is is it just gaming and surround stuff, like I
thought it was? Are there any good alternatives?

Best regards
Bue

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Emne: Re: Hi-fi soundcard

Hello,
All of the sound cards made by sound blaster can and will do what you need
them to do.
Check them all out at:
http://www.soundblaster.com
my best regards to you!
 John.
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To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 3:01 PM
Subject: Hi-fi soundcard



Hi.

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All i really need is stereo analogue and digital inputs and outputs
and a card that will do the job and do it really well.

Best regards
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Re: Hi-fi soundcard

2009-11-01 Thread djdoctorp

Hello all,
I have been doing some digging on vacuum tube sound cards, and this is what 
I've found.
I found a tube amplifier that has a USB inter face that bypasses your 
computer's sound card.

It has a 24 bit 156 kHz DAT converter.
But it is kind of pricy.
This unit sails for $750
I will get back to you with the link to this thing later.
My best regards!
 John- Original Message - 
From: "André van Deventer" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 4:14 PM
Subject: RE: Hi-fi soundcard


Speaking of high sound quality - I would be in the market for a very good
digital to analog converter simply to use my computer connected to a good
stereo system.

Is there anything better than the xitel for example?

Andre



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On Behalf Of Bue Vester-Andersen
Sent: 31 October 2009 11:18 PM
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Subject: SV: Hi-fi soundcard

Hi John,

Thanks for the advice. I must admit that I discarded the Sound blaster cards
in advance. I suppose the digital connections will be ok, since a bit is a
bit. However, their d/a-converters don't have a very good reputation with
me. Maybe they have improved, or maybe I am just prejudiced, but I was
originally going for a more high-end solution. Do Sound blaster actually
make high-end cards, or is is it just gaming and surround stuff, like I
thought it was? Are there any good alternatives?

Best regards
Bue

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Emne: Re: Hi-fi soundcard

Hello,
All of the sound cards made by sound blaster can and will do what you need
them to do.
Check them all out at:
http://www.soundblaster.com
my best regards to you!
 John.
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To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 3:01 PM
Subject: Hi-fi soundcard



Hi.

Can anyone help me?
I need a high-end hi-fi soundcard with an accessible configuration
interface and that is compatible with Windows 7. It is going to sit in
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All i really need is stereo analogue and digital inputs and outputs
and a card that will do the job and do it really well.

Best regards
Bue


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RE: Hi-fi soundcard

2009-11-01 Thread André van Deventer
Speaking of high sound quality - I would be in the market for a very good
digital to analog converter simply to use my computer connected to a good
stereo system.

Is there anything better than the xitel for example?

Andre

 

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On Behalf Of Bue Vester-Andersen
Sent: 31 October 2009 11:18 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: SV: Hi-fi soundcard

Hi John,

Thanks for the advice. I must admit that I discarded the Sound blaster cards
in advance. I suppose the digital connections will be ok, since a bit is a
bit. However, their d/a-converters don't have a very good reputation with
me. Maybe they have improved, or maybe I am just prejudiced, but I was
originally going for a more high-end solution. Do Sound blaster actually
make high-end cards, or is is it just gaming and surround stuff, like I
thought it was? Are there any good alternatives?

Best regards
Bue

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Emne: Re: Hi-fi soundcard

Hello,
All of the sound cards made by sound blaster can and will do what you need
them to do.
Check them all out at:
http://www.soundblaster.com
my best regards to you!
  John.
- Original Message -
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To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 3:01 PM
Subject: Hi-fi soundcard


> Hi.
>
> Can anyone help me?
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> interface and that is compatible with Windows 7. It is going to sit in 
> my hi-fi pc, so I don't really need surround sound or 64 channels..
> All i really need is stereo analogue and digital inputs and outputs 
> and a card that will do the job and do it really well.
>
> Best regards
> Bue
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RE: Hi-fi soundcard

2009-11-01 Thread André van Deventer
I have heard though that they are quite OK when using them with computer
speakers but that they are not that good when hooking them up to high end
systems like NAD and Rotell.

Andre

 

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Hello,
All of the sound cards made by sound blaster can and will do what you need
them to do.
Check them all out at:
http://www.soundblaster.com
my best regards to you!
  John.
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To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 3:01 PM
Subject: Hi-fi soundcard


> Hi.
>
> Can anyone help me?
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> interface and that is compatible with Windows 7. It is going to sit in 
> my hi-fi pc, so I don't really need surround sound or 64 channels.. 
> All i really need is stereo analogue and digital inputs and outputs 
> and a card that will do the job and do it really well.
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> Bue
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Re: Hi-fi soundcard

2009-11-01 Thread Brian Olesen

Hi,
Well actually there are many factors to consider when bying a sound card, of 
higher class.
In my opinion you should really try to get it away from the noisy and 
electro magnetic pc itself, and out in the free air. smile
Any way a firewire, or a USB solution, where the data remains 100 % digital 
until converted to an analog signal I think will produce the most clean 
signal. At least you should not be concerned about noise from the harddisk, 
or P S U with such a configuration. Also it's no bad thing at all to have a 
self powered audio device. We're talking hifi here, not simple pc sound. :-)


Then the dificult part will be to find the best devices out there, and also 
here, like with anything else, it's a matter of personal preference.
Some of the devices has a high power output, and others are not as 
agressive, if you know what I mean.

Some are warmer then others, and others again are more clean and so on.

There are definately minor variations, but they're definately noticeable.

Best regards
Brian
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From: "Andy" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 8:46 PM
Subject: Re: Hi-fi soundcard



Hi Tim.

This device sounds like something I'd be very much interested in.

I've been using the Soundblaster for several years to take the optic from 
my computer to my Arcam AV.  Not too bothered about recording at this 
time, so an output device would seem to meet my needs.


Dio you know if this unit has any problems with VISTA?, or does it work 
better on XP Home computers?  Finally, do you know if it's available here 
in Scotland?


I've been a lover of Creative for some years now but feel that they are 
not longer interested.  This is why I'm interested in other similar 
devices.


Very best wishes.
Andy.
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To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: Hi-fi soundcard




Hi Bue,

I'm using a little device here called the UD10.1 audio converter from 
Trends audio.  It connects to your pc via usb, and has a variety of 
outputs including both optical and coaxual s-pdif, XLR, and BNC.  The 
3.5mm headphone socket also doubles as a line output, and provides phono 
out by means of a 3.5mm to RCA connector.


I have the ud-10.1 feeding a Beresford DAC, via the coax digital out, 
which in turn connects to the amplifier with good quality rca 
interconnects.


My music files are in lossless flac format, and I am very happy with the 
results, with sound quality being as good as, and probably better than my 
Arcam Alpha 9 cd player.


I should say that the ud-10.1 is solely an output device, so if you wish 
to record, another method would have to be considered.


Best regards,

Tim.

I --- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bue Vester-Andersen" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 7:01 PM
Subject: Hi-fi soundcard



Hi.

Can anyone help me?
I need a high-end hi-fi soundcard with an accessible configuration 
interface
and that is compatible with Windows 7. It is going to sit in my hi-fi 
pc, so

I don't really need surround sound or 64 channels.. All i really need is
stereo analogue and digital inputs and outputs and a card that will do 
the

job and do it really well.

Best regards
Bue


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Re: Hi-fi soundcard

2009-11-01 Thread Andy

Hi Tim.

This device sounds like something I'd be very much interested in.

I've been using the Soundblaster for several years to take the optic from my 
computer to my Arcam AV.  Not too bothered about recording at this time, so 
an output device would seem to meet my needs.


Dio you know if this unit has any problems with VISTA?, or does it work 
better on XP Home computers?  Finally, do you know if it's available here in 
Scotland?


I've been a lover of Creative for some years now but feel that they are not 
longer interested.  This is why I'm interested in other similar devices.


Very best wishes.
Andy.
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To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: Hi-fi soundcard




Hi Bue,

I'm using a little device here called the UD10.1 audio converter from 
Trends audio.  It connects to your pc via usb, and has a variety of 
outputs including both optical and coaxual s-pdif, XLR, and BNC.  The 
3.5mm headphone socket also doubles as a line output, and provides phono 
out by means of a 3.5mm to RCA connector.


I have the ud-10.1 feeding a Beresford DAC, via the coax digital out, 
which in turn connects to the amplifier with good quality rca 
interconnects.


My music files are in lossless flac format, and I am very happy with the 
results, with sound quality being as good as, and probably better than my 
Arcam Alpha 9 cd player.


I should say that the ud-10.1 is solely an output device, so if you wish 
to record, another method would have to be considered.


Best regards,

Tim.

I --- Original Message - 
From: "Bue Vester-Andersen" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 7:01 PM
Subject: Hi-fi soundcard



Hi.

Can anyone help me?
I need a high-end hi-fi soundcard with an accessible configuration 
interface
and that is compatible with Windows 7. It is going to sit in my hi-fi pc, 
so

I don't really need surround sound or 64 channels.. All i really need is
stereo analogue and digital inputs and outputs and a card that will do 
the

job and do it really well.

Best regards
Bue


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SV: Hi-fi soundcard

2009-11-01 Thread Bue Vester-Andersen
I Tim,

Sounds very interesting. I still need to be able to record from  analogue
sources, so I'd better stick to a real sound card. Currently, I am looking
at Audiotrak and Terratec, but I don't know how accessible their software
is.

Best regards
Bue

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Til: PC Audio Discussion List
Emne: Re: Hi-fi soundcard

Hi Bue,

I'm using a little device here called the UD10.1 audio converter from Trends
audio.  It connects to your pc via usb, and has a variety of outputs
including both optical and coaxual s-pdif, XLR, and BNC.  The 3.5mm
headphone socket also doubles as a line output, and provides phono out by
means of a 3.5mm to RCA connector.

I have the ud-10.1 feeding a Beresford DAC, via the coax digital out, which
in turn connects to the amplifier with good quality rca interconnects.

My music files are in lossless flac format, and I am very happy with the
results, with sound quality being as good as, and probably better than my
Arcam Alpha 9 cd player.

I should say that the ud-10.1 is solely an output device, so if you wish to
record, another method would have to be considered.

Best regards,

Tim.

I --- Original Message -
From: "Bue Vester-Andersen" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 7:01 PM
Subject: Hi-fi soundcard


> Hi.
>
> Can anyone help me?
> I need a high-end hi-fi soundcard with an accessible configuration 
> interface
> and that is compatible with Windows 7. It is going to sit in my hi-fi pc, 
> so
> I don't really need surround sound or 64 channels.. All i really need is
> stereo analogue and digital inputs and outputs and a card that will do the
> job and do it really well.
>
> Best regards
> Bue
>
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Re: Hi-fi soundcard

2009-11-01 Thread Ray
An interesting thread and plenty of interfaces to go and take a look at. 
Still, I have one question:  these may do what we want in terms of multimple
inputs or outputs, but how usable is the interface that comes with them?

I think myself that for multi-input work we really need an external mixer to
give line and mic inputs with hardware controls, going into a line-level
soundcard input.  Yes, an extra box, and a bit more cost, but if your needs
are modest then the cost can be low.

Ray

Tim Crawford wrote:
Hi Bue,

I'm using a little device here called the UD10.1 audio converter from Trends
audio.  It connects to your pc via usb, and has a variety of outputs
including both optical and coaxual s-pdif, XLR, and BNC.  The 3.5mm
headphone socket also doubles as a line output, and provides phono out by
means of a 3.5mm to RCA connector.

I have the ud-10.1 feeding a Beresford DAC, via the coax digital out, which
in turn connects to the amplifier with good quality rca interconnects.

My music files are in lossless flac format, and I am very happy with the
results, with sound quality being as good as, and probably better than my
Arcam Alpha 9 cd player.

I should say that the ud-10.1 is solely an output device, so if you wish to
record, another method would have to be considered.

Best regards,

Tim.



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Re: Hi-fi soundcard

2009-11-01 Thread Tim Crawford

Hi Bue,

I'm using a little device here called the UD10.1 audio converter from Trends 
audio.  It connects to your pc via usb, and has a variety of outputs 
including both optical and coaxual s-pdif, XLR, and BNC.  The 3.5mm 
headphone socket also doubles as a line output, and provides phono out by 
means of a 3.5mm to RCA connector.


I have the ud-10.1 feeding a Beresford DAC, via the coax digital out, which 
in turn connects to the amplifier with good quality rca interconnects.


My music files are in lossless flac format, and I am very happy with the 
results, with sound quality being as good as, and probably better than my 
Arcam Alpha 9 cd player.


I should say that the ud-10.1 is solely an output device, so if you wish to 
record, another method would have to be considered.


Best regards,

Tim.

I --- Original Message - 
From: "Bue Vester-Andersen" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 7:01 PM
Subject: Hi-fi soundcard



Hi.

Can anyone help me?
I need a high-end hi-fi soundcard with an accessible configuration 
interface
and that is compatible with Windows 7. It is going to sit in my hi-fi pc, 
so

I don't really need surround sound or 64 channels.. All i really need is
stereo analogue and digital inputs and outputs and a card that will do the
job and do it really well.

Best regards
Bue


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Re: Hi-fi soundcard

2009-11-01 Thread Robert Nelson






This thread made me wonder  just what audio interfaces are available these 
days.



Browsing the page shown below shows that there are quite a few audio 
interfaces available but they are not necessarily hi fi sound cards.



However, it seems that most hi fi sound cards these days come with only one 
input which doubles as microphone input and line input and a headphone jack. 
If you are prepared to go the extra mile, you might get a SP/DIFF output.



Are we being forced to buy audio interfaces like those listed below just to 
get something we can simultaneously plug a microphone and input from a 
recorder?



Could it be that manufacturers think that we should be content with glorious 
surround sound and not be creative?



Given the needs of so many people creating podcasts, you would think that 
there would be more  sound cards with multiple inputs and outputs but it 
seems that people who want to do that are being pushed in the direction of 
the audio interfaces listed below.



Browse this site to read about some very interesting audio gear-



 http://www.electricroom.com.au/catalog/Computer+Audio



USB Audio Interfaces



MidiTech Phonoface - USB Phono Preamp and Restoration Software



With the Phonoface you can easily digitise your analogue sound sources. 
Thanks to its specialist phono preamplification, the Phonoface is able to 
digitise records at an optimal quality. Using the switching arrangement you 
can also attach LINE level devices, e.g. music cassette decks or CD players. 
With the included restoration software - Magix "Music Cleaning Lab" you have 
the capability to edit previously digitised music or speech.

$ 79.00



 MOTU Fastlane USB MIDI Interface



The professional MIDI interface for your home studio: FastLane is a simple 2 
input, 2 output, 32-MIDI channel interface for Macintosh and Windows. It 
installs in seconds and opens your computer to a world of music software. 
FastLane's unique advantage: a MIDI thru button allows you to play to your 
gear even when your computer is turned off-without having to disconnect 
cables. No other USB interface offers this feature for this price.

$ 122.00



 M-Audio Transit USB - High Resolution Mobile Audio Interface



Compatible with ProTools M-Powered Software and small enough to fit in your 
pocket, Transit brings hi-resolution 24-bit/96kHz recording and playback to 
any USB-compatible computer. Digital I/O lets you transfer pristine audio 
between your computer and other devices such as MiniDisc and DAT. Transit is 
your ticket to ride.

$139.00







M-Audio Fast Track USB - 24-bit 48kHz Portable Interface



Compatible with ProTools M-Powered Software, the Fast Track USB is also a 
great choice if you make music with GarageBand or other software recording 
programs, and require professional results. Just connect Fast Track USB to 
the USB port of your computer and you're ready to rock. GT Player Express 
also plays standard audio files like AAC, MP3 and WAV that let you learn and 
jam along with your favorite music at variable speeds.

$ 157.50



 Edirol UA-1G - Portable USB Audio Interface



24-bit 96kHz The UA-1G is a compact 1 x 1 USB Audio Interface that offers 
excellent-quality sound via multiple connection options and a simple, 
user-friendly design.

$ 157.50



 ART Tube MP Project Series with USB



The Tube MP Project Series is a professional quality audio interface that 
lets you connect microphone, instrument, and line level signals to audio 
inputs to digital audio workstations as well as standard analog devices.

$ 169.00



 Icon Cube Mini - Ultra Compact 2x2 Audio Interface 24-bit 192kHz



An ideal cross-platform, bus-powered audio recording solution, the Icon Cube 
Mini is only 9cm x 9cm in size! Includes full duplex recording and playback 
facility, as well as support for Direct Sound, ASIO 2.0 and WDM.

$179.00



 ART USB Dual Pre - 2 Channel Portable Preamp with USB



The USB Dual Pre is a full-featured high quality dual portable preamplifier 
and computer interface packed into a compact rugged case. It is designed to 
work over a variety of applications such as remote field recording and 
desktop/studio tracking. Each of the two low noise input channels has up to 
48 dB of clean gain with signal present and clip LED indicators. Inputs can 
be either XLR balanced or 1/4-inch TRS. Each of the 1/4-inch TRS outputs is 
buffered low impedance balanced.

$ 189.00



 ART USB PhonoPlus Preamp v2



Phono / Line Preamp with USB. The USB Phono Plus, (Formerly named the USB 
Micro PRE) acts as an interface between your computer and a wide variety of 
analog and digital sources

$ 199.00



 MidiTech AudioLink Pro - 2 Channel 24-bit USB Audio Interface



This particular interface is well suited to project studios, demos, 
recording of presenters and other live applications, where a simple and 
easy-to-configure unit is required. Compatible with Windows XP/Vista (no 
drivers required).

$ 219.00



 ESI

Re: Hi-fi soundcard

2009-11-01 Thread Les Gordon
for a soundcard like this, most likely part of the card might be a external 
box. unless they make something that would fit into a large tower case that 
offers more bays. i am using creative soundblaster xfi. and i get a nice 
warm sound out of that. it gives a million options for the sound. but the 
tube one will definantely sound better.


les


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Customer Service

Les Gordon
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Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 12:48 AM
Subject: Re: Hi-fi soundcard


High SUNSHINE,
Someone at a loco stereo shop told me this, but I haven't had a chance to
check it out yet.
I will get in to this sometime today.
I will get back to the list and let you all know about my findings.
My best regards!
 John.
- Original Message - 
From: "Sunshine" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 6:45 PM
Subject: Re: Hi-fi soundcard


when and where did you find this info?i would love to read this news
release.
- Original Message - 
From: "djdoctorp" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: Hi-fi soundcard


High once again,
I don't know how true this is, but I hear that Sound Blaster is coming out
with a card that uses a pare of 12AX7 tubes for the line out, and a pare of
12AU7 tubes for the line and mike ins.
Word has it that this card will be out some time next year.
If that happens, then I won't need a preamp that has tubes to get that warm
sound transferred from my old records and cassettes.
I am wondering 2 things.
For starters, how will the card with tubes and all fit in to any desktop
computer?
And how much will it cost?
My best regards!
 John.
- Original Message - 
From: "Bue Vester-Andersen" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 5:18 PM
Subject: SV: Hi-fi soundcard


Hi John,

Thanks for the advice. I must admit that I discarded the Sound blaster
cards in advance. I suppose the digital connections will be ok, since a bit
is a bit. However, their d/a-converters don't have a very good reputation
with me. Maybe they have improved, or maybe I am just prejudiced, but I was
originally going for a more high-end solution. Do Sound blaster actually
make high-end cards, or is is it just gaming and surround stuff, like I
thought it was? Are there any good alternatives?

Best regards
Bue

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Emne: Re: Hi-fi soundcard

Hello,
All of the sound cards made by sound blaster can and will do what you need
them to do.
Check them all out at:
http://www.soundblaster.com
my best regards to you!
 John.
----- Original Message -
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To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 3:01 PM
Subject: Hi-fi soundcard



Hi.

Can anyone help me?
I need a high-end hi-fi soundcard with an accessible configuration
interface and that is compatible with Windows 7. It is going to sit in
my hi-fi pc, so I don't really need surround sound or 64 channels..
All i really need is stereo analogue and digital inputs and outputs
and a card that will do the job and do it really well.

Best regards
Bue


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Re: Hi-fi soundcard

2009-10-31 Thread djdoctorp

High SUNSHINE,
Someone at a loco stereo shop told me this, but I haven't had a chance to 
check it out yet.

I will get in to this sometime today.
I will get back to the list and let you all know about my findings.
My best regards!
 John.
- Original Message - 
From: "Sunshine" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 6:45 PM
Subject: Re: Hi-fi soundcard


when and where did you find this info?i would love to read this news
release.
- Original Message - 
From: "djdoctorp" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: Hi-fi soundcard


High once again,
I don't know how true this is, but I hear that Sound Blaster is coming out
with a card that uses a pare of 12AX7 tubes for the line out, and a pare of
12AU7 tubes for the line and mike ins.
Word has it that this card will be out some time next year.
If that happens, then I won't need a preamp that has tubes to get that warm
sound transferred from my old records and cassettes.
I am wondering 2 things.
For starters, how will the card with tubes and all fit in to any desktop
computer?
And how much will it cost?
My best regards!
 John.
- Original Message - 
From: "Bue Vester-Andersen" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 5:18 PM
Subject: SV: Hi-fi soundcard


Hi John,

Thanks for the advice. I must admit that I discarded the Sound blaster
cards in advance. I suppose the digital connections will be ok, since a bit
is a bit. However, their d/a-converters don't have a very good reputation
with me. Maybe they have improved, or maybe I am just prejudiced, but I was
originally going for a more high-end solution. Do Sound blaster actually
make high-end cards, or is is it just gaming and surround stuff, like I
thought it was? Are there any good alternatives?

Best regards
Bue

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Sendt: 31. oktober 2009 20:17
Til: PC Audio Discussion List
Emne: Re: Hi-fi soundcard

Hello,
All of the sound cards made by sound blaster can and will do what you need
them to do.
Check them all out at:
http://www.soundblaster.com
my best regards to you!
 John.
- Original Message -----
From: "Bue Vester-Andersen" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 3:01 PM
Subject: Hi-fi soundcard



Hi.

Can anyone help me?
I need a high-end hi-fi soundcard with an accessible configuration
interface and that is compatible with Windows 7. It is going to sit in
my hi-fi pc, so I don't really need surround sound or 64 channels..
All i really need is stereo analogue and digital inputs and outputs
and a card that will do the job and do it really well.

Best regards
Bue


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Re: Hi-fi soundcard

2009-10-31 Thread Bob Seed
Putting vacuum tubes in a PC might sound a little like adding a hand crank 
to a Porsche, but at least one company thinks it might be the future of 
computer audio.
Taiwanese components company AOpen, part of the Acer Group, is selling a PC 
audio card based on a vacuum tube--the same century-old technology that 
sends electric guitar players and hi-fi aficionados into paroxysms of 
listening delight.


The idea, according to AOpen, is to replicate the "warm" sound of 
traditional tube-driven audio equipment inside PCs, which are increasingly 
being used as stereos by digital music lovers. The company quietly released 
a first version of the product in the United States in August, and an 
updated version, now available in Taiwan, will reach U.S. shores in January, 
just missing the holiday shopping season.


Will AOpen's audio card revolutionize PC audio? Unlikely, analysts say. But 
the company's focus is one of a number of increasingly clear signs that the 
intermingling of PCs with other household entertainment devices is steadily 
marching along and that PCs are beginning to hold their own in terms of 
quality.


"I wouldn't call (the tube-driven board) a novelty, but it certainly falls 
into the enthusiast segment," said Dean McCarron, principal analyst for 
Mercury Research, a firm covering the PC component market. "On the hi-fi 
side, there are some very strong tube proponents."


Even if it remains an evolutionary--or devolutionary--dead-end, the 
tube-driven audio card does help highlight an ongoing renaissance in PC 
audio technology, driven by the prevalence of downloadable music and 
musicians' growing use of inexpensive, powerful computers for home 
recording.


The standalone audio card market was considerably stronger in the mid-1990s, 
when companies like Creative Labs, with its Sound Blaster audio card, first 
helped PCs become multimedia machines. But in 1997, technology for 
integrating audio directly into a computer's motherboard became widespread, 
and the standalone audio market soon collapsed. The ability to do 
signal-processing functions inside software programs--once the exclusive 
purview of hardware--also helped undermine audio card sales.


Most PCs today are sold with integrated audio capabilities that let 
listeners play music, if not with particularly high-quality sound, without 
any specialized hardware. Creative's Audigy and Sound Blaster lines of audio 
cards still sell fairly well among game players and music lovers looking for 
a richer sound, but the company continues to have only a fraction of the 
market it commanded half a decade ago, McCarron said.


AOpen's card falls into a slightly different category, however. There's 
already a long list of existing high-tech add-on equipment designed for 
musicians creating PC music. But there are fewer high-end cards targeted 
more specifically at hi-fi connoisseurs.


The company itself says the idea was initially a "lark," dreamed up by an 
audiophile engineer in the course of a brainstorming session. But a lab test 
of the idea convinced enough people that sound quality was noticeably 
different that the company decided to produce the product.


According to product manager Richard Jen, the company has sold about 5000 of 
the tube boards in the United States since August. They aren't available in 
retail stores--the company distributes mostly through resellers, who in turn 
sell the product for between $180 and $220.


Jen said the customer base has been split evenly between gamers and hi-fi 
enthusiasts.


The idea has won both raves and jeers online. Audiophiles and sound 
engineers in message boards have differed, often bitterly, on whether the 
tube would make a difference to the sound. Tube amplification gives a 
"fuzzier" sound, many say, and while that might make it sound "warmer" to 
some ears, it would lack the precise reproduction of digital signals that a 
good-quality computer audio codec can provide, critics say.




- Original Message - 
From: "djdoctorp" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 6:30 PM
Subject: Re: Hi-fi soundcard


High once again,
I don't know how true this is, but I hear that Sound Blaster is coming out
with a card that uses a pare of 12AX7 tubes for the line out, and a pare of
12AU7 tubes for the line and mike ins.
Word has it that this card will be out some time next year.
If that happens, then I won't need a preamp that has tubes to get that warm
sound transferred from my old records and cassettes.
I am wondering 2 things.
For starters, how will the card with tubes and all fit in to any desktop
computer?
And how much will it cost?
My best regards!
 John.
- Original Message - 
From: "Bue Vester-Andersen" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 5:18 P

Re: Hi-fi soundcard

2009-10-31 Thread Robert Logue
This is not a recommendation but you might want to check out asus xonar 
cards.  They are meant to have very high quality analog sound.  Just use 
your favourite search engine to find reviews and info about asus xonar.  The 
reviews I've read have been quite positive.  I do not have one so I can't 
say how accessible the software will be.  Hopefully, most configuration can 
be done through the Windows mixer.


Bob

- Original Message - 
From: "Bue Vester-Andersen" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 1:01 PM
Subject: Hi-fi soundcard



Hi.

Can anyone help me?
I need a high-end hi-fi soundcard with an accessible configuration 
interface
and that is compatible with Windows 7. It is going to sit in my hi-fi pc, 
so

I don't really need surround sound or 64 channels.. All i really need is
stereo analogue and digital inputs and outputs and a card that will do the
job and do it really well.

Best regards
Bue


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Re: Hi-fi soundcard

2009-10-31 Thread Ray
I too would be interested to see a link to this new Creative card.  It will
command a bit of a premium I'd have thought.

Googling did turn up:
http://ixbtlabs.com/articles2/aopen-tube/index.html

Seems the "Tube" is made in Russia.  Ah, those perveyer's of good old tech.

Ray

Sunshine wrote:
when and where did you find this info?i would love to read this news
release.
- Original Message -
From: "djdoctorp" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: Hi-fi soundcard


High once again,
I don't know how true this is, but I hear that Sound Blaster is coming out
with a card that uses a pare of 12AX7 tubes for the line out, and a pare of
12AU7 tubes for the line and mike ins.
Word has it that this card will be out some time next year.
If that happens, then I won't need a preamp that has tubes to get that warm
sound transferred from my old records and cassettes.
I am wondering 2 things.
For starters, how will the card with tubes and all fit in to any desktop
computer?
And how much will it cost?
My best regards!
  John.
- Original Message -
From: "Bue Vester-Andersen" 
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 5:18 PM
Subject: SV: Hi-fi soundcard


Hi John,

Thanks for the advice. I must admit that I discarded the Sound blaster
cards in advance. I suppose the digital connections will be ok, since a bit
is a bit. However, their d/a-converters don't have a very good reputation
with me. Maybe they have improved, or maybe I am just prejudiced, but I was
originally going for a more high-end solution. Do Sound blaster actually
make high-end cards, or is is it just gaming and surround stuff, like I
thought it was? Are there any good alternatives?

Best regards
Bue

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Emne: Re: Hi-fi soundcard

Hello,
All of the sound cards made by sound blaster can and will do what you need
them to do.
Check them all out at:
http://www.soundblaster.com
my best regards to you!
  John.
- Original Message -
From: "Bue Vester-Andersen" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 3:01 PM
Subject: Hi-fi soundcard


> Hi.
>
> Can anyone help me?
> I need a high-end hi-fi soundcard with an accessible configuration
> interface and that is compatible with Windows 7. It is going to sit in
> my hi-fi pc, so I don't really need surround sound or 64 channels..
> All i really need is stereo analogue and digital inputs and outputs
> and a card that will do the job and do it really well.
>
> Best regards
> Bue
>
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Re: Hi-fi soundcard

2009-10-31 Thread Sunshine
when and where did you find this info?i would love to read this news 
release.
- Original Message - 
From: "djdoctorp" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: Hi-fi soundcard


High once again,
I don't know how true this is, but I hear that Sound Blaster is coming out
with a card that uses a pare of 12AX7 tubes for the line out, and a pare of
12AU7 tubes for the line and mike ins.
Word has it that this card will be out some time next year.
If that happens, then I won't need a preamp that has tubes to get that warm
sound transferred from my old records and cassettes.
I am wondering 2 things.
For starters, how will the card with tubes and all fit in to any desktop
computer?
And how much will it cost?
My best regards!
  John.
- Original Message - 
From: "Bue Vester-Andersen" 
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 5:18 PM
Subject: SV: Hi-fi soundcard


Hi John,

Thanks for the advice. I must admit that I discarded the Sound blaster
cards in advance. I suppose the digital connections will be ok, since a bit
is a bit. However, their d/a-converters don't have a very good reputation
with me. Maybe they have improved, or maybe I am just prejudiced, but I was
originally going for a more high-end solution. Do Sound blaster actually
make high-end cards, or is is it just gaming and surround stuff, like I
thought it was? Are there any good alternatives?

Best regards
Bue

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Emne: Re: Hi-fi soundcard

Hello,
All of the sound cards made by sound blaster can and will do what you need
them to do.
Check them all out at:
http://www.soundblaster.com
my best regards to you!
  John.
- Original Message -
From: "Bue Vester-Andersen" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 3:01 PM
Subject: Hi-fi soundcard


> Hi.
>
> Can anyone help me?
> I need a high-end hi-fi soundcard with an accessible configuration
> interface and that is compatible with Windows 7. It is going to sit in
> my hi-fi pc, so I don't really need surround sound or 64 channels..
> All i really need is stereo analogue and digital inputs and outputs
> and a card that will do the job and do it really well.
>
> Best regards
> Bue
>
>
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Re: Hi-fi soundcard

2009-10-31 Thread Ray
For anyone in the UK who just might possibly not know, read "valves" for 
"tubes".

Yes, a warm sound indeed, LOL!  In fact the mic pre-amp attached to this
speaker has a valve, um, "tube" in it's front end.  I'm old enough to remember
valve equipment and we weren't sorry to see it go by and large as it tended to
be unreliable.

Space might be a bit of an issue, but I imagine mounting within slots sideways
in the printed circuit board an internal card wouldn't present a real problem.
 External cards don't raise an issue here.

Ray

djdoctorp wrote:
High once again,
I don't know how true this is, but I hear that Sound Blaster is coming out
with a card that uses a pare of 12AX7 tubes for the line out, and a pare of
12AU7 tubes for the line and mike ins.
Word has it that this card will be out some time next year.
If that happens, then I won't need a preamp that has tubes to get that warm
sound transferred from my old records and cassettes.
I am wondering 2 things.
For starters, how will the card with tubes and all fit in to any desktop
computer?
And how much will it cost?
My best regards!
  John.
- Original Message -
From: "Bue Vester-Andersen" 
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 5:18 PM
Subject: SV: Hi-fi soundcard


Hi John,

Thanks for the advice. I must admit that I discarded the Sound blaster
cards in advance. I suppose the digital connections will be ok, since a bit
is a bit. However, their d/a-converters don't have a very good reputation
with me. Maybe they have improved, or maybe I am just prejudiced, but I was
originally going for a more high-end solution. Do Sound blaster actually
make high-end cards, or is is it just gaming and surround stuff, like I
thought it was? Are there any good alternatives?

Best regards
Bue

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Hello,
All of the sound cards made by sound blaster can and will do what you need
them to do.
Check them all out at:
http://www.soundblaster.com
my best regards to you!
  John.
- Original Message -
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To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 3:01 PM
Subject: Hi-fi soundcard


> Hi.
>
> Can anyone help me?
> I need a high-end hi-fi soundcard with an accessible configuration
> interface and that is compatible with Windows 7. It is going to sit in
> my hi-fi pc, so I don't really need surround sound or 64 channels..
> All i really need is stereo analogue and digital inputs and outputs
> and a card that will do the job and do it really well.
>
> Best regards
> Bue
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Re: Hi-fi soundcard

2009-10-31 Thread djdoctorp

High once again,
I don't know how true this is, but I hear that Sound Blaster is coming out 
with a card that uses a pare of 12AX7 tubes for the line out, and a pare of 
12AU7 tubes for the line and mike ins.

Word has it that this card will be out some time next year.
If that happens, then I won't need a preamp that has tubes to get that warm 
sound transferred from my old records and cassettes.

I am wondering 2 things.
For starters, how will the card with tubes and all fit in to any desktop 
computer?

And how much will it cost?
My best regards!
 John.
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From: "Bue Vester-Andersen" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 5:18 PM
Subject: SV: Hi-fi soundcard


Hi John,

Thanks for the advice. I must admit that I discarded the Sound blaster
cards in advance. I suppose the digital connections will be ok, since a bit
is a bit. However, their d/a-converters don't have a very good reputation
with me. Maybe they have improved, or maybe I am just prejudiced, but I was
originally going for a more high-end solution. Do Sound blaster actually
make high-end cards, or is is it just gaming and surround stuff, like I
thought it was? Are there any good alternatives?

Best regards
Bue

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Emne: Re: Hi-fi soundcard

Hello,
All of the sound cards made by sound blaster can and will do what you need
them to do.
Check them all out at:
http://www.soundblaster.com
my best regards to you!
 John.
- Original Message -
From: "Bue Vester-Andersen" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 3:01 PM
Subject: Hi-fi soundcard



Hi.

Can anyone help me?
I need a high-end hi-fi soundcard with an accessible configuration
interface and that is compatible with Windows 7. It is going to sit in
my hi-fi pc, so I don't really need surround sound or 64 channels..
All i really need is stereo analogue and digital inputs and outputs
and a card that will do the job and do it really well.

Best regards
Bue


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Re: Hi-fi soundcard

2009-10-31 Thread djdoctorp

High Andy,
I have done my home work on Windows 7, it's not anything like Vista.
Windows 7 in a whole lot of ways mimics Windows XP.
If your USB card worked well with XP, it will work really well with 7.
My best regards!
 John.
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From: "Andy" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 4:14 PM
Subject: Re: Hi-fi soundcard


Hi there.

My name iis Andy Logue and I used to have XP Home with a Creative
Soundblaster 24 bit external card, feeding my AV Unit, via an optic out, but
since VISTA I have not been able to keep this configuration.  I'm hoping to
move onto Windows 7 and like yourself, I'm wondering if I can use a
Soundblaster card.

The advise this member has given does not assit me as I visited the link
provided and learned nothing.

Perhaps if you find out more then you can share your knowledge with me.

I'm, like yourself, not interested in 3.1, 5.1 or 7.1 surround sound and all
that nonsense.  Like you, all I wish is Stereo and good access.

I wish to play and record from my external sound card, via an Optic in or
out.  Not much to ask for I'm sure , but depressingly, the days of being
able to undertake the kind of stuff we have enjoyed for years is passing
fast.

Please let me know if you find out a good accessible sound card for Windows
7.

I just recently paid £150 for an old XP home computer, so that I would be
able to continue my practice of playing through my sound card.
Unfortunately, the £150 was just wasted as the computer arrived damaged.

I'm not sure whither to move back to XP home or move onto Windows 7.  As far
as VISTA is concerned, although interesting, is no friend of mine and I'll
be pleased to see the back of it, like Millennium.

Very best wishes.
Andy.
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From: "djdoctorp" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 7:17 PM
Subject: Re: Hi-fi soundcard




Hello,
All of the sound cards made by sound blaster can and will do what you need 
them to do.

Check them all out at:
http://www.soundblaster.com
my best regards to you!
 John.
- Original Message - 
From: "Bue Vester-Andersen" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 3:01 PM
Subject: Hi-fi soundcard



Hi.

Can anyone help me?
I need a high-end hi-fi soundcard with an accessible configuration 
interface
and that is compatible with Windows 7. It is going to sit in my hi-fi pc, 
so

I don't really need surround sound or 64 channels.. All i really need is
stereo analogue and digital inputs and outputs and a card that will do 
the

job and do it really well.

Best regards
Bue


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Re: SV: Hi-fi soundcard

2009-10-31 Thread Ray
Andy, I can't find any of the messages now, but we had a similar thread to
this a month or more back.

I can't recall the higher end sound card that was recommended then, but hope
someone can.  the simple answer would be the M-Audio cards, but they've gone
and screwed up the mixer software for their cards something rotten so that the
sound panel, which was accessible, is no longer so.

I'm always hearing about the Turtle Beach sound cards from those in the U S ,
but I've not seen them advertized here.

sorry if none of that helps greatly, but maybe someone will come back, re.
that earlier thread.
Ray

Bue Vester-Andersen wrote:
Hi John,

Thanks for the advice. I must admit that I discarded the Sound blaster
cards in advance. I suppose the digital connections will be ok, since a bit
is a bit. However, their d/a-converters don't have a very good reputation
with me. Maybe they have improved, or maybe I am just prejudiced, but I was
originally going for a more high-end solution. Do Sound blaster actually
make high-end cards, or is is it just gaming and surround stuff, like I
thought it was? Are there any good alternatives?

Best regards
Bue

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Emne: Re: Hi-fi soundcard

Hello,
All of the sound cards made by sound blaster can and will do what you need
them to do.
Check them all out at:
http://www.soundblaster.com
my best regards to you!
  John.
- Original Message -
From: "Bue Vester-Andersen" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 3:01 PM
Subject: Hi-fi soundcard


> Hi.
>
> Can anyone help me?
> I need a high-end hi-fi soundcard with an accessible configuration
> interface and that is compatible with Windows 7. It is going to sit in
> my hi-fi pc, so I don't really need surround sound or 64 channels..
> All i really need is stereo analogue and digital inputs and outputs
> and a card that will do the job and do it really well.
>
> Best regards
> Bue
>
>
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SV: Hi-fi soundcard

2009-10-31 Thread Bue Vester-Andersen
Hi John,

Thanks for the advice. I must admit that I discarded the Sound blaster
cards in advance. I suppose the digital connections will be ok, since a bit
is a bit. However, their d/a-converters don't have a very good reputation
with me. Maybe they have improved, or maybe I am just prejudiced, but I was
originally going for a more high-end solution. Do Sound blaster actually
make high-end cards, or is is it just gaming and surround stuff, like I
thought it was? Are there any good alternatives?

Best regards
Bue

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Til: PC Audio Discussion List
Emne: Re: Hi-fi soundcard

Hello,
All of the sound cards made by sound blaster can and will do what you need
them to do.
Check them all out at:
http://www.soundblaster.com
my best regards to you!
  John.
- Original Message -
From: "Bue Vester-Andersen" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 3:01 PM
Subject: Hi-fi soundcard


> Hi.
>
> Can anyone help me?
> I need a high-end hi-fi soundcard with an accessible configuration 
> interface and that is compatible with Windows 7. It is going to sit in 
> my hi-fi pc, so I don't really need surround sound or 64 channels.. 
> All i really need is stereo analogue and digital inputs and outputs 
> and a card that will do the job and do it really well.
>
> Best regards
> Bue
>
>
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Re: Hi-fi soundcard

2009-10-31 Thread Andy

Hi there.

My name iis Andy Logue and I used to have XP Home with a Creative 
Soundblaster 24 bit external card, feeding my AV Unit, via an optic out, but 
since VISTA I have not been able to keep this configuration.  I'm hoping to 
move onto Windows 7 and like yourself, I'm wondering if I can use a 
Soundblaster card.


The advise this member has given does not assit me as I visited the link 
provided and learned nothing.


Perhaps if you find out more then you can share your knowledge with me.

I'm, like yourself, not interested in 3.1, 5.1 or 7.1 surround sound and all 
that nonsense.  Like you, all I wish is Stereo and good access.


I wish to play and record from my external sound card, via an Optic in or 
out.  Not much to ask for I'm sure , but depressingly, the days of being 
able to undertake the kind of stuff we have enjoyed for years is passing 
fast.


Please let me know if you find out a good accessible sound card for Windows 
7.


I just recently paid £150 for an old XP home computer, so that I would be 
able to continue my practice of playing through my sound card. 
Unfortunately, the £150 was just wasted as the computer arrived damaged.


I'm not sure whither to move back to XP home or move onto Windows 7.  As far 
as VISTA is concerned, although interesting, is no friend of mine and I'll 
be pleased to see the back of it, like Millennium.


Very best wishes.
Andy.
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From: "djdoctorp" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 7:17 PM
Subject: Re: Hi-fi soundcard




Hello,
All of the sound cards made by sound blaster can and will do what you need 
them to do.

Check them all out at:
http://www.soundblaster.com
my best regards to you!
 John.
- Original Message - 
From: "Bue Vester-Andersen" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 3:01 PM
Subject: Hi-fi soundcard



Hi.

Can anyone help me?
I need a high-end hi-fi soundcard with an accessible configuration 
interface
and that is compatible with Windows 7. It is going to sit in my hi-fi pc, 
so

I don't really need surround sound or 64 channels.. All i really need is
stereo analogue and digital inputs and outputs and a card that will do 
the

job and do it really well.

Best regards
Bue


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Re: Hi-fi soundcard

2009-10-31 Thread djdoctorp

Hello,
All of the sound cards made by sound blaster can and will do what you need 
them to do.

Check them all out at:
http://www.soundblaster.com
my best regards to you!
 John.
- Original Message - 
From: "Bue Vester-Andersen" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 3:01 PM
Subject: Hi-fi soundcard



Hi.

Can anyone help me?
I need a high-end hi-fi soundcard with an accessible configuration 
interface
and that is compatible with Windows 7. It is going to sit in my hi-fi pc, 
so

I don't really need surround sound or 64 channels.. All i really need is
stereo analogue and digital inputs and outputs and a card that will do the
job and do it really well.

Best regards
Bue


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Hi-fi soundcard

2009-10-31 Thread Bue Vester-Andersen
Hi.

Can anyone help me?
I need a high-end hi-fi soundcard with an accessible configuration interface
and that is compatible with Windows 7. It is going to sit in my hi-fi pc, so
I don't really need surround sound or 64 channels.. All i really need is
stereo analogue and digital inputs and outputs and a card that will do the
job and do it really well.

Best regards
Bue
 

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