Re: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus....

2011-12-05 Thread Casey

Hi do you have there version of the mad plug in.
That will work with the newest version of win amp?
If you do would you please send it to me.



On 12/3/2011 11:20 AM, Dane trethowan wrote:

that's not quite true, there are different quality decoders out there
for MP3 files for example, the Mad plug-in for Winamp is one of the
nicest I've heard. There are others.



On 3/12/2011 10:22 AM, Dave Scrimenti wrote:

You're not going to hear any difference in sound quality from player
to player. The only ways to improve sound quality are to use
uncompressed files, or a better audio card. Winamp and Foobar 2000 are
both very accessible.
- Original Message - From: "Walter" 
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 6:17 PM
Subject: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus



Hi all. I'm toying with the idea of experimenting with various media
players. Unfortunately not all are worth the trouble and still others
are
not accessible with JAWS. At this time I use both VLC witch does a good
enough job and WMP which is fine but rather restrictive. I'm
referring here
to playback and neither ripping nor burning as I use Nero express for
burning, and now and then Express burn. For ripping I use CDEX which I
like. I used to use Reel player but when I got my PC reformatted I never
did reinstall it. My question is how does Winamp compare with the other
media players I've mentioned? I have never observed this player being
used
nor of course tried it. Is it accessible with JAWS 12 and or do you need
scripts to access it's functions? How is the playback quality and
response
time. Sometimes the latest version isn't the best version so in your
opinion, what version is the most successful? Finally, what other
players
would you recommend, free or otherwise. The important thing is ease
of use,
it is of little use if the sound quality is the best in the world but
if you
can't use it with a screen reader then it is a waste of time. All
comments
will be welcome and read. Walter.


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Re: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus....

2011-12-04 Thread Hank Smith

Hello isn't that out datated? or did they improve on it?
last I checked you couldn't listen to aac plus feeds and certain stuff 
with that has this changed?

Hank
On 12/3/2011 10:20 AM, Dane trethowan wrote:
that's not quite true, there are different quality decoders out there 
for MP3 files for example, the Mad plug-in for Winamp is one of the 
nicest I've heard. There are others.




On 3/12/2011 10:22 AM, Dave Scrimenti wrote:
You're not going to hear any difference in sound quality from player 
to player. The only ways to improve sound quality are to use 
uncompressed files, or a better audio card. Winamp and Foobar 2000 
are both very accessible.

- Original Message - From: "Walter" 
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 6:17 PM
Subject: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus



Hi all. I'm toying with the idea of experimenting with various media
players. Unfortunately not all are worth the trouble and still 
others are

not accessible with JAWS. At this time I use both VLC witch does a good
enough job and WMP which is fine but rather restrictive. I'm 
referring here

to playback and neither ripping nor burning as I use Nero express for
burning, and now and then Express burn. For ripping I use CDEX which I
like. I used to use Reel player but when I got my PC reformatted I 
never

did reinstall it. My question is how does Winamp compare with the other
media players I've mentioned? I have never observed this player 
being used
nor of course tried it. Is it accessible with JAWS 12 and or do you 
need
scripts to access it's functions? How is the playback quality and 
response

time. Sometimes the latest version isn't the best version so in your
opinion, what version is the most successful? Finally, what other 
players
would you recommend, free or otherwise. The important thing is ease 
of use,
it is of little use if the sound quality is the best in the world 
but if you
can't use it with a screen reader then it is a waste of time. All 
comments

will be welcome and read. Walter.


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Re: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus....

2011-12-03 Thread Stumpy
Do you know if there is a mad plugin that will run with the newest version 
of Winamp?  If so, where can you find it?  I already tried to google it, but 
all I could find were some very outdated plugins.


   Thanks,

   Scott


-Original Message- 
From: Dane trethowan

Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 12:20 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus

that's not quite true, there are different quality decoders out there
for MP3 files for example, the Mad plug-in for Winamp is one of the
nicest I've heard.  There are others.



On 3/12/2011 10:22 AM, Dave Scrimenti wrote:
You're not going to hear any difference in sound quality from player to 
player. The only ways to improve sound quality are to use uncompressed 
files, or a better audio card. Winamp and Foobar 2000 are both very 
accessible.

- Original Message - From: "Walter" 
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 6:17 PM
Subject: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus



Hi all.  I'm toying with the idea of experimenting with various media
players.  Unfortunately not all are worth the trouble and still others 
are

not accessible with JAWS.  At this time I use both VLC witch does a good
enough job and WMP which is fine but rather restrictive.  I'm referring 
here

to playback and neither ripping nor burning as I use Nero express for
burning, and now and then Express burn.  For ripping I use CDEX which I
like.  I used to use Reel player but when I got my PC reformatted I never
did reinstall it.  My question is how does Winamp compare with the other
media players I've mentioned?  I have never observed this player being 
used

nor of course tried it.  Is it accessible with JAWS 12 and or do you need
scripts to access it's functions?  How is the playback quality and 
response

time.  Sometimes the latest version isn't the best version so in your
opinion, what version is the most successful?  Finally, what other 
players
would you recommend, free or otherwise.  The important thing is ease of 
use,
it is of little use if the sound quality is the best in the world but if 
you
can't use it with a screen reader then it is a waste of time.  All 
comments

will be welcome and read.  Walter.


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Re: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus....

2011-12-03 Thread Dane trethowan
Certainly have, I know of at least a dozen other people using the 
plug-in who have noticed the difference but regardless of what I or 
others might think, howabout trying it for yourself and giving your ears 
a real treat!


Mad isn't the only one I've listened to, can't remember the name of the 
other one I have here off-hand.




On 4/12/2011 4:56 AM, Dave Scrimenti wrote:
Just out of curiosity, have you had someone give you a blind test to 
determine if you can hear the difference, and how much?
- Original Message - From: "Dane trethowan" 


To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus


that's not quite true, there are different quality decoders out there 
for MP3 files for example, the Mad plug-in for Winamp is one of the 
nicest I've heard.  There are others.




On 3/12/2011 10:22 AM, Dave Scrimenti wrote:
You're not going to hear any difference in sound quality from player 
to player. The only ways to improve sound quality are to use 
uncompressed files, or a better audio card. Winamp and Foobar 2000 
are both very accessible.

- Original Message - From: "Walter" 
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 6:17 PM
Subject: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus



Hi all.  I'm toying with the idea of experimenting with various media
players.  Unfortunately not all are worth the trouble and still 
others are
not accessible with JAWS.  At this time I use both VLC witch does a 
good
enough job and WMP which is fine but rather restrictive.  I'm 
referring here

to playback and neither ripping nor burning as I use Nero express for
burning, and now and then Express burn.  For ripping I use CDEX 
which I
like.  I used to use Reel player but when I got my PC reformatted I 
never
did reinstall it.  My question is how does Winamp compare with the 
other
media players I've mentioned?  I have never observed this player 
being used
nor of course tried it.  Is it accessible with JAWS 12 and or do 
you need
scripts to access it's functions?  How is the playback quality and 
response

time.  Sometimes the latest version isn't the best version so in your
opinion, what version is the most successful?  Finally, what other 
players
would you recommend, free or otherwise.  The important thing is 
ease of use,
it is of little use if the sound quality is the best in the world 
but if you
can't use it with a screen reader then it is a waste of time.  All 
comments

will be welcome and read.  Walter.


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Re: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus....

2011-12-03 Thread Dave Scrimenti
Just out of curiosity, have you had someone give you a blind test to 
determine if you can hear the difference, and how much?
- Original Message - 
From: "Dane trethowan" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus


that's not quite true, there are different quality decoders out there for 
MP3 files for example, the Mad plug-in for Winamp is one of the nicest 
I've heard.  There are others.




On 3/12/2011 10:22 AM, Dave Scrimenti wrote:
You're not going to hear any difference in sound quality from player to 
player. The only ways to improve sound quality are to use uncompressed 
files, or a better audio card. Winamp and Foobar 2000 are both very 
accessible.

- Original Message - From: "Walter" 
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 6:17 PM
Subject: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus



Hi all.  I'm toying with the idea of experimenting with various media
players.  Unfortunately not all are worth the trouble and still others 
are

not accessible with JAWS.  At this time I use both VLC witch does a good
enough job and WMP which is fine but rather restrictive.  I'm referring 
here

to playback and neither ripping nor burning as I use Nero express for
burning, and now and then Express burn.  For ripping I use CDEX which I
like.  I used to use Reel player but when I got my PC reformatted I 
never

did reinstall it.  My question is how does Winamp compare with the other
media players I've mentioned?  I have never observed this player being 
used
nor of course tried it.  Is it accessible with JAWS 12 and or do you 
need
scripts to access it's functions?  How is the playback quality and 
response

time.  Sometimes the latest version isn't the best version so in your
opinion, what version is the most successful?  Finally, what other 
players
would you recommend, free or otherwise.  The important thing is ease of 
use,
it is of little use if the sound quality is the best in the world but if 
you
can't use it with a screen reader then it is a waste of time.  All 
comments

will be welcome and read.  Walter.


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Re: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus....

2011-12-03 Thread Dane trethowan
Winamp should suffice most uses yep, I thought Real Player was a part of 
history now?


I've used VLC with the Mac and love it! a very nice player though as yet 
haven't tried it under Windows, I'm told that its accessible? Certainly 
the last Windows version I tried quite some years ago wasn't.




On 3/12/2011 11:04 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
I haven't tried all of the players you mentioned.  But I have used 
WMP, Real Player and Winamp; I like Winamp the best!  For one thing, 
with Winamp, it's quite easy to get from point A to point B in a file; 
you can adjust the volume (without having to worry that you'll also 
mess up the volume of your screen reader (Real Player used to have 
that problem; they may have fixed that now) but for what I've used 
players for, I like Winamp!

Tom Kaufman
- Original Message - From: "Walter" 
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 6:17 PM
Subject: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus



Hi all.  I'm toying with the idea of experimenting with various media
players.  Unfortunately not all are worth the trouble and still 
others are

not accessible with JAWS.  At this time I use both VLC witch does a good
enough job and WMP which is fine but rather restrictive.  I'm 
referring here

to playback and neither ripping nor burning as I use Nero express for
burning, and now and then Express burn.  For ripping I use CDEX which I
like.  I used to use Reel player but when I got my PC reformatted I 
never

did reinstall it.  My question is how does Winamp compare with the other
media players I've mentioned?  I have never observed this player 
being used
nor of course tried it.  Is it accessible with JAWS 12 and or do you 
need
scripts to access it's functions?  How is the playback quality and 
response

time.  Sometimes the latest version isn't the best version so in your
opinion, what version is the most successful?  Finally, what other 
players
would you recommend, free or otherwise.  The important thing is ease 
of use,
it is of little use if the sound quality is the best in the world but 
if you
can't use it with a screen reader then it is a waste of time.  All 
comments

will be welcome and read.  Walter.


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Re: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus Versus....

2011-12-03 Thread Dane trethowan
I'll throw a forth player into the discussion, I like Itunes, the people 
at GW Micro have - at long last - done a great job with the iTunes 
scripts and it works like clockwork.


the software can be a little challenging for beginners but there are 
plenty of help guides and tutorials around.


I mainly like iTunes I have to admit for the "Smart Playlist" feature 
where you can create aplaylist and literally programme it to play what 
you want to be played, for example if a song has been played over so 
many times, if a song was added on a particular date and so on.




On 3/12/2011 11:02 AM, Rick Roderick wrote:

I like Winamp because I can always go to the title bar and tell what's
playing.  I have never figured out a way to get WMP to display that, unless
I am looking in the wrong place.

I like the Winamp Book feature, but I can't figure out a way to categorize
things.


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Re: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus....

2011-12-03 Thread Dane trethowan
that's not quite true, there are different quality decoders out there 
for MP3 files for example, the Mad plug-in for Winamp is one of the 
nicest I've heard.  There are others.




On 3/12/2011 10:22 AM, Dave Scrimenti wrote:
You're not going to hear any difference in sound quality from player 
to player. The only ways to improve sound quality are to use 
uncompressed files, or a better audio card. Winamp and Foobar 2000 are 
both very accessible.

- Original Message - From: "Walter" 
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 6:17 PM
Subject: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus



Hi all.  I'm toying with the idea of experimenting with various media
players.  Unfortunately not all are worth the trouble and still 
others are

not accessible with JAWS.  At this time I use both VLC witch does a good
enough job and WMP which is fine but rather restrictive.  I'm 
referring here

to playback and neither ripping nor burning as I use Nero express for
burning, and now and then Express burn.  For ripping I use CDEX which I
like.  I used to use Reel player but when I got my PC reformatted I 
never

did reinstall it.  My question is how does Winamp compare with the other
media players I've mentioned?  I have never observed this player 
being used
nor of course tried it.  Is it accessible with JAWS 12 and or do you 
need
scripts to access it's functions?  How is the playback quality and 
response

time.  Sometimes the latest version isn't the best version so in your
opinion, what version is the most successful?  Finally, what other 
players
would you recommend, free or otherwise.  The important thing is ease 
of use,
it is of little use if the sound quality is the best in the world but 
if you
can't use it with a screen reader then it is a waste of time.  All 
comments

will be welcome and read.  Walter.


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Re: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus....

2011-12-03 Thread chris hallsworth
I use Winamp full time for just about everything except buy music or 
manage my iDevices, which I use iTunes for. I say this as Winamp can 
apparently manage your iPod in a limited way, but choose to use iTunes 
for that and Winamp for others. I know you didn't want anything to rip 
or burn, but I will pass the below on anyway. The free version of Winamp 
allows you to rip at a maximum of 8x in the M4A, or iTunes, format. I'm 
happy with this personally as M4a is the best compared to MP3 in terms 
of audio quality (excellent) and file size (smaller than even MP3). You 
can burn with the free version of Winamp as well but I think you are 
limited to 2x. Anyway back to the point. Winamp is fully accessible 
providing you use the classic not the bundled modern skin that it comes 
with. It works with all screen readers, with or without scripts or sets 
or whatever. I've been using Winamp since 2001, yes 2001, when I was on 
Windows ME and Winamp was 2.7x, something silly like that. I use 5.622 
and it is still as accessible as the early days. There was one 
unsuccessful version of Winamp, Winamp 3, which was an absolute disaster 
in terms of accessibility, and almost turned to another player until I 
tried version 5.0x. Just some thoughts.


On 02/12/2011 23:17, Walter wrote:

Hi all.  I'm toying with the idea of experimenting with various media
players.  Unfortunately not all are worth the trouble and still others are
not accessible with JAWS.  At this time I use both VLC witch does a good
enough job and WMP which is fine but rather restrictive.  I'm referring here
to playback and neither ripping nor burning as I use Nero express for
burning, and now and then Express burn.  For ripping I use CDEX which I
like.  I used to use Reel player but when I got my PC reformatted I never
did reinstall it.  My question is how does Winamp compare with the other
media players I've mentioned?  I have never observed this player being used
nor of course tried it.  Is it accessible with JAWS 12 and or do you need
scripts to access it's functions?  How is the playback quality and response
time.  Sometimes the latest version isn't the best version so in your
opinion, what version is the most successful?  Finally, what other players
would you recommend, free or otherwise.  The important thing is ease of use,
it is of little use if the sound quality is the best in the world but if you
can't use it with a screen reader then it is a waste of time.  All comments
will be welcome and read.  Walter.


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RE: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus....

2011-12-02 Thread André van Deventer
Website or Mapler is
http://www.mar-dy.com/MaPlEr/MaPlEr.php

You can actually download a demo from there which  is fully functional except 
for the fact that every 30 seconds or so you hear an announcement that you are 
working with a demo.

I really feel that this little player is more than worth the small sum they 
charge for the full version.



-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On 
Behalf Of Hank Smith
Sent: 03 December 2011 07:33 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus

Hello what is the website fore Mapler?
also can you send me off list your keyboard shortcut file fore foobar?
Hank
On 12/2/2011 9:57 PM, André van Deventer wrote:
> Walter
>
> Don't forget foobar2000 also.  This is what I use for most of my playing.
> The downside is that you have to designate your own shortcut keys but 
> this can be  very easily done.
>
> Another  interesting option for really a very small fee is Mapler  
> which is a small media player written especially for visually impaired 
> persons in mind.  The amount you pay is neglible if you compare it to 
> what you get for it.
>
> Just some other options to consider.
>
> Andre
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
> [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
> On Behalf Of Walter
> Sent: 03 December 2011 01:18 AM
> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
> Subject: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus
>
> Hi all.  I'm toying with the idea of experimenting with various media 
> players.  Unfortunately not all are worth the trouble and still others 
> are not accessible with JAWS.  At this time I use both VLC witch does 
> a good enough job and WMP which is fine but rather restrictive.  I'm 
> referring here to playback and neither ripping nor burning as I use 
> Nero express for burning, and now and then Express burn.  For ripping 
> I use CDEX which I like.  I used to use Reel player but when I got my 
> PC reformatted I never did reinstall it.  My question is how does 
> Winamp compare with the other media players I've mentioned?  I have 
> never observed this player being used nor of course tried it.  Is it 
> accessible with JAWS 12 and or do you need scripts to access it's 
> functions?  How is the playback quality and response time.  Sometimes 
> the latest version isn't the best version so in your opinion, what 
> version is the most successful?  Finally, what other players would you 
> recommend, free or otherwise.  The important thing is ease of use, it 
> is of little use if the sound quality is the best in the world but if 
> you can't use it with a screen reader then it is a waste of time.  All 
> comments will be welcome and read.  Walter.
>
>
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Re: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus....

2011-12-02 Thread Hank Smith

Hello what is the website fore Mapler?
also can you send me off list your keyboard shortcut file fore foobar?
Hank
On 12/2/2011 9:57 PM, André van Deventer wrote:

Walter

Don't forget foobar2000 also.  This is what I use for most of my playing.
The downside is that you have to designate your own shortcut keys but this
can be  very easily done.

Another  interesting option for really a very small fee is Mapler  which is
a small media player written especially for visually impaired persons in
mind.  The amount you pay is neglible if you compare it to what you get for
it.

Just some other options to consider.

Andre



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On Behalf Of Walter
Sent: 03 December 2011 01:18 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus

Hi all.  I'm toying with the idea of experimenting with various media
players.  Unfortunately not all are worth the trouble and still others are
not accessible with JAWS.  At this time I use both VLC witch does a good
enough job and WMP which is fine but rather restrictive.  I'm referring here
to playback and neither ripping nor burning as I use Nero express for
burning, and now and then Express burn.  For ripping I use CDEX which I
like.  I used to use Reel player but when I got my PC reformatted I never
did reinstall it.  My question is how does Winamp compare with the other
media players I've mentioned?  I have never observed this player being used
nor of course tried it.  Is it accessible with JAWS 12 and or do you need
scripts to access it's functions?  How is the playback quality and response
time.  Sometimes the latest version isn't the best version so in your
opinion, what version is the most successful?  Finally, what other players
would you recommend, free or otherwise.  The important thing is ease of use,
it is of little use if the sound quality is the best in the world but if you
can't use it with a screen reader then it is a waste of time.  All comments
will be welcome and read.  Walter.


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RE: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus....

2011-12-02 Thread André van Deventer
Walter

Don't forget foobar2000 also.  This is what I use for most of my playing.
The downside is that you have to designate your own shortcut keys but this
can be  very easily done.  

Another  interesting option for really a very small fee is Mapler  which is
a small media player written especially for visually impaired persons in
mind.  The amount you pay is neglible if you compare it to what you get for
it.

Just some other options to consider.

Andre



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On Behalf Of Walter
Sent: 03 December 2011 01:18 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus

Hi all.  I'm toying with the idea of experimenting with various media
players.  Unfortunately not all are worth the trouble and still others are
not accessible with JAWS.  At this time I use both VLC witch does a good
enough job and WMP which is fine but rather restrictive.  I'm referring here
to playback and neither ripping nor burning as I use Nero express for
burning, and now and then Express burn.  For ripping I use CDEX which I
like.  I used to use Reel player but when I got my PC reformatted I never
did reinstall it.  My question is how does Winamp compare with the other
media players I've mentioned?  I have never observed this player being used
nor of course tried it.  Is it accessible with JAWS 12 and or do you need
scripts to access it's functions?  How is the playback quality and response
time.  Sometimes the latest version isn't the best version so in your
opinion, what version is the most successful?  Finally, what other players
would you recommend, free or otherwise.  The important thing is ease of use,
it is of little use if the sound quality is the best in the world but if you
can't use it with a screen reader then it is a waste of time.  All comments
will be welcome and read.  Walter. 


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Re: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus....

2011-12-02 Thread Dave Scrimenti

It does use scripts, but they come with Jaws. Most plug-ins are free.
- Original Message - 
From: "Walter" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 8:54 PM
Subject: RE: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus



Hi.  Well mainly I want other options other than the two I currently use.
The ability to navigate with in a file and particularly the bookmark
facility would be most helpful.  My main concern is just how accessible 
the

programme is with JAWS.  Also, I understand there are plug ins for the
programme, are they free or do they have a cost attached to them.  Also,
exactly what does the basic version offer?  Does the ability to navigate
within files and bookmarks come within the scope of the standard version 
or
are scripts required to get full functionality from the programme.  A 
blind

person can use Gold wave without the scripts if they know what they are
doing but to get the full benefit Scripts are really necessary for gold
Wave, is Winamp the same?  Finally, what other programmes have the 
Bookmark

facility and ability to navigate within a file.  One other thing I haven't
mentioned but it would be helpful and that is the ability to play a very
large folder of mp3 files in a jukebox fashion.  At the moment I have a
folder with just over 10,000 mp3 files in it.  I have WMP set to shuffle
mode and I merely select all then add to Windows media player and I can 
play

music for hours without interruption.  This folder is going to grow to
150,000 files and much more.  I just wonder if Winamp will be able to 
handle

that amount of files in a similar fashion.  Walter.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: 03 December 2011 00:23
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus

What are you looking for in a media player? I like Winamp because I can
manage my local libraries, my portable media players and my podcasts. I
also like the bookmarks feature and the ability to skip around in a
file. Handling content over the internet isv't very accessible though.

I like FooBar 2000 because it's interface is so simple. You can also
manage local libraries with it. Setting it up is kind of tedious though,
since you need to set up all of your own hot keys. I don't think it
manages podcasts for you. It does come in a portable flavor though,
which is nice if you want to run it off of a USB drive or SD card.

I still pull up WMP occasionally, but that's mostly just to rip CD's.

On 02/12/11 17:22, Dave Scrimenti wrote:

You're not going to hear any difference in sound quality from player to
player. The only ways to improve sound quality are to use uncompressed
files, or a better audio card. Winamp and Foobar 2000 are both very
accessible.
- Original Message - From: "Walter" 
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 6:17 PM
Subject: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus



Hi all.  I'm toying with the idea of experimenting with various media
players.  Unfortunately not all are worth the trouble and still others
are
not accessible with JAWS.  At this time I use both VLC witch does a good
enough job and WMP which is fine but rather restrictive.  I'm
referring here
to playback and neither ripping nor burning as I use Nero express for
burning, and now and then Express burn.  For ripping I use CDEX which I
like.  I used to use Reel player but when I got my PC reformatted I 
never

did reinstall it.  My question is how does Winamp compare with the other
media players I've mentioned?  I have never observed this player being
used
nor of course tried it.  Is it accessible with JAWS 12 and or do you 
need

scripts to access it's functions?  How is the playback quality and
response
time.  Sometimes the latest version isn't the best version so in your
opinion, what version is the most successful?  Finally, what other
players
would you recommend, free or otherwise.  The important thing is ease
of use,
it is of little use if the sound quality is the best in the world but
if you
can't use it with a screen reader then it is a waste of time.  All
comments
will be welcome and read.  Walter.


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Re: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus....

2011-12-02 Thread Tom Kaufman
Walter:  I would say that Winamp is most accessible; someone I know will 
correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I know, no special scripts are needed 
to do things like move within a file and so forth.

Tom Kaufman
- Original Message - 
From: "Walter" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 8:54 PM
Subject: RE: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus



Hi.  Well mainly I want other options other than the two I currently use.
The ability to navigate with in a file and particularly the bookmark
facility would be most helpful.  My main concern is just how accessible 
the

programme is with JAWS.  Also, I understand there are plug ins for the
programme, are they free or do they have a cost attached to them.  Also,
exactly what does the basic version offer?  Does the ability to navigate
within files and bookmarks come within the scope of the standard version 
or
are scripts required to get full functionality from the programme.  A 
blind

person can use Gold wave without the scripts if they know what they are
doing but to get the full benefit Scripts are really necessary for gold
Wave, is Winamp the same?  Finally, what other programmes have the 
Bookmark

facility and ability to navigate within a file.  One other thing I haven't
mentioned but it would be helpful and that is the ability to play a very
large folder of mp3 files in a jukebox fashion.  At the moment I have a
folder with just over 10,000 mp3 files in it.  I have WMP set to shuffle
mode and I merely select all then add to Windows media player and I can 
play

music for hours without interruption.  This folder is going to grow to
150,000 files and much more.  I just wonder if Winamp will be able to 
handle

that amount of files in a similar fashion.  Walter.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: 03 December 2011 00:23
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus

What are you looking for in a media player? I like Winamp because I can
manage my local libraries, my portable media players and my podcasts. I
also like the bookmarks feature and the ability to skip around in a
file. Handling content over the internet isv't very accessible though.

I like FooBar 2000 because it's interface is so simple. You can also
manage local libraries with it. Setting it up is kind of tedious though,
since you need to set up all of your own hot keys. I don't think it
manages podcasts for you. It does come in a portable flavor though,
which is nice if you want to run it off of a USB drive or SD card.

I still pull up WMP occasionally, but that's mostly just to rip CD's.

On 02/12/11 17:22, Dave Scrimenti wrote:

You're not going to hear any difference in sound quality from player to
player. The only ways to improve sound quality are to use uncompressed
files, or a better audio card. Winamp and Foobar 2000 are both very
accessible.
- Original Message - From: "Walter" 
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 6:17 PM
Subject: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus



Hi all.  I'm toying with the idea of experimenting with various media
players.  Unfortunately not all are worth the trouble and still others
are
not accessible with JAWS.  At this time I use both VLC witch does a good
enough job and WMP which is fine but rather restrictive.  I'm
referring here
to playback and neither ripping nor burning as I use Nero express for
burning, and now and then Express burn.  For ripping I use CDEX which I
like.  I used to use Reel player but when I got my PC reformatted I 
never

did reinstall it.  My question is how does Winamp compare with the other
media players I've mentioned?  I have never observed this player being
used
nor of course tried it.  Is it accessible with JAWS 12 and or do you 
need

scripts to access it's functions?  How is the playback quality and
response
time.  Sometimes the latest version isn't the best version so in your
opinion, what version is the most successful?  Finally, what other
players
would you recommend, free or otherwise.  The important thing is ease
of use,
it is of little use if the sound quality is the best in the world but
if you
can't use it with a screen reader then it is a waste of time.  All
comments
will be welcome and read.  Walter.


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RE: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus....

2011-12-02 Thread Walter
Hi.  Well mainly I want other options other than the two I currently use.
The ability to navigate with in a file and particularly the bookmark
facility would be most helpful.  My main concern is just how accessible the
programme is with JAWS.  Also, I understand there are plug ins for the
programme, are they free or do they have a cost attached to them.  Also,
exactly what does the basic version offer?  Does the ability to navigate
within files and bookmarks come within the scope of the standard version or
are scripts required to get full functionality from the programme.  A blind
person can use Gold wave without the scripts if they know what they are
doing but to get the full benefit Scripts are really necessary for gold
Wave, is Winamp the same?  Finally, what other programmes have the Bookmark
facility and ability to navigate within a file.  One other thing I haven't
mentioned but it would be helpful and that is the ability to play a very
large folder of mp3 files in a jukebox fashion.  At the moment I have a
folder with just over 10,000 mp3 files in it.  I have WMP set to shuffle
mode and I merely select all then add to Windows media player and I can play
music for hours without interruption.  This folder is going to grow to
150,000 files and much more.  I just wonder if Winamp will be able to handle
that amount of files in a similar fashion.  Walter.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: 03 December 2011 00:23
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus

What are you looking for in a media player? I like Winamp because I can
manage my local libraries, my portable media players and my podcasts. I
also like the bookmarks feature and the ability to skip around in a
file. Handling content over the internet isv't very accessible though.

I like FooBar 2000 because it's interface is so simple. You can also
manage local libraries with it. Setting it up is kind of tedious though,
since you need to set up all of your own hot keys. I don't think it
manages podcasts for you. It does come in a portable flavor though,
which is nice if you want to run it off of a USB drive or SD card.

I still pull up WMP occasionally, but that's mostly just to rip CD's.

On 02/12/11 17:22, Dave Scrimenti wrote:
> You're not going to hear any difference in sound quality from player to
> player. The only ways to improve sound quality are to use uncompressed
> files, or a better audio card. Winamp and Foobar 2000 are both very
> accessible.
> - Original Message - From: "Walter" 
> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
> Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 6:17 PM
> Subject: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus
> 
> 
>> Hi all.  I'm toying with the idea of experimenting with various media
>> players.  Unfortunately not all are worth the trouble and still others
>> are
>> not accessible with JAWS.  At this time I use both VLC witch does a good
>> enough job and WMP which is fine but rather restrictive.  I'm
>> referring here
>> to playback and neither ripping nor burning as I use Nero express for
>> burning, and now and then Express burn.  For ripping I use CDEX which I
>> like.  I used to use Reel player but when I got my PC reformatted I never
>> did reinstall it.  My question is how does Winamp compare with the other
>> media players I've mentioned?  I have never observed this player being
>> used
>> nor of course tried it.  Is it accessible with JAWS 12 and or do you need
>> scripts to access it's functions?  How is the playback quality and
>> response
>> time.  Sometimes the latest version isn't the best version so in your
>> opinion, what version is the most successful?  Finally, what other
>> players
>> would you recommend, free or otherwise.  The important thing is ease
>> of use,
>> it is of little use if the sound quality is the best in the world but
>> if you
>> can't use it with a screen reader then it is a waste of time.  All
>> comments
>> will be welcome and read.  Walter.
>>
>>
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Re: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus....

2011-12-02 Thread Christopher Chaltain
What are you looking for in a media player? I like Winamp because I can
manage my local libraries, my portable media players and my podcasts. I
also like the bookmarks feature and the ability to skip around in a
file. Handling content over the internet isv't very accessible though.

I like FooBar 2000 because it's interface is so simple. You can also
manage local libraries with it. Setting it up is kind of tedious though,
since you need to set up all of your own hot keys. I don't think it
manages podcasts for you. It does come in a portable flavor though,
which is nice if you want to run it off of a USB drive or SD card.

I still pull up WMP occasionally, but that's mostly just to rip CD's.

On 02/12/11 17:22, Dave Scrimenti wrote:
> You're not going to hear any difference in sound quality from player to
> player. The only ways to improve sound quality are to use uncompressed
> files, or a better audio card. Winamp and Foobar 2000 are both very
> accessible.
> - Original Message - From: "Walter" 
> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
> Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 6:17 PM
> Subject: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus
> 
> 
>> Hi all.  I'm toying with the idea of experimenting with various media
>> players.  Unfortunately not all are worth the trouble and still others
>> are
>> not accessible with JAWS.  At this time I use both VLC witch does a good
>> enough job and WMP which is fine but rather restrictive.  I'm
>> referring here
>> to playback and neither ripping nor burning as I use Nero express for
>> burning, and now and then Express burn.  For ripping I use CDEX which I
>> like.  I used to use Reel player but when I got my PC reformatted I never
>> did reinstall it.  My question is how does Winamp compare with the other
>> media players I've mentioned?  I have never observed this player being
>> used
>> nor of course tried it.  Is it accessible with JAWS 12 and or do you need
>> scripts to access it's functions?  How is the playback quality and
>> response
>> time.  Sometimes the latest version isn't the best version so in your
>> opinion, what version is the most successful?  Finally, what other
>> players
>> would you recommend, free or otherwise.  The important thing is ease
>> of use,
>> it is of little use if the sound quality is the best in the world but
>> if you
>> can't use it with a screen reader then it is a waste of time.  All
>> comments
>> will be welcome and read.  Walter.
>>
>>
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Re: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus....

2011-12-02 Thread Tom Kaufman
I haven't tried all of the players you mentioned.  But I have used WMP, Real 
Player and Winamp; I like Winamp the best!  For one thing, with Winamp, it's 
quite easy to get from point A to point B in a file; you can adjust the 
volume (without having to worry that you'll also mess up the volume of your 
screen reader (Real Player used to have that problem; they may have fixed 
that now) but for what I've used players for, I like Winamp!

Tom Kaufman
- Original Message - 
From: "Walter" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 6:17 PM
Subject: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus



Hi all.  I'm toying with the idea of experimenting with various media
players.  Unfortunately not all are worth the trouble and still others are
not accessible with JAWS.  At this time I use both VLC witch does a good
enough job and WMP which is fine but rather restrictive.  I'm referring 
here

to playback and neither ripping nor burning as I use Nero express for
burning, and now and then Express burn.  For ripping I use CDEX which I
like.  I used to use Reel player but when I got my PC reformatted I never
did reinstall it.  My question is how does Winamp compare with the other
media players I've mentioned?  I have never observed this player being 
used

nor of course tried it.  Is it accessible with JAWS 12 and or do you need
scripts to access it's functions?  How is the playback quality and 
response

time.  Sometimes the latest version isn't the best version so in your
opinion, what version is the most successful?  Finally, what other players
would you recommend, free or otherwise.  The important thing is ease of 
use,
it is of little use if the sound quality is the best in the world but if 
you
can't use it with a screen reader then it is a waste of time.  All 
comments

will be welcome and read.  Walter.


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Re: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus....

2011-12-02 Thread Rick Roderick
I like Winamp because I can always go to the title bar and tell what's 
playing.  I have never figured out a way to get WMP to display that, unless 
I am looking in the wrong place.

I like the Winamp Book feature, but I can't figure out a way to categorize 
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Re: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus....

2011-12-02 Thread Dave Scrimenti
You're not going to hear any difference in sound quality from player to 
player. The only ways to improve sound quality are to use uncompressed 
files, or a better audio card. Winamp and Foobar 2000 are both very 
accessible.
- Original Message - 
From: "Walter" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 6:17 PM
Subject: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus



Hi all.  I'm toying with the idea of experimenting with various media
players.  Unfortunately not all are worth the trouble and still others are
not accessible with JAWS.  At this time I use both VLC witch does a good
enough job and WMP which is fine but rather restrictive.  I'm referring 
here

to playback and neither ripping nor burning as I use Nero express for
burning, and now and then Express burn.  For ripping I use CDEX which I
like.  I used to use Reel player but when I got my PC reformatted I never
did reinstall it.  My question is how does Winamp compare with the other
media players I've mentioned?  I have never observed this player being 
used

nor of course tried it.  Is it accessible with JAWS 12 and or do you need
scripts to access it's functions?  How is the playback quality and 
response

time.  Sometimes the latest version isn't the best version so in your
opinion, what version is the most successful?  Finally, what other players
would you recommend, free or otherwise.  The important thing is ease of 
use,
it is of little use if the sound quality is the best in the world but if 
you
can't use it with a screen reader then it is a waste of time.  All 
comments

will be welcome and read.  Walter.


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2011-12-02 Thread Walter
Hi all.  I'm toying with the idea of experimenting with various media
players.  Unfortunately not all are worth the trouble and still others are
not accessible with JAWS.  At this time I use both VLC witch does a good
enough job and WMP which is fine but rather restrictive.  I'm referring here
to playback and neither ripping nor burning as I use Nero express for
burning, and now and then Express burn.  For ripping I use CDEX which I
like.  I used to use Reel player but when I got my PC reformatted I never
did reinstall it.  My question is how does Winamp compare with the other
media players I've mentioned?  I have never observed this player being used
nor of course tried it.  Is it accessible with JAWS 12 and or do you need
scripts to access it's functions?  How is the playback quality and response
time.  Sometimes the latest version isn't the best version so in your
opinion, what version is the most successful?  Finally, what other players
would you recommend, free or otherwise.  The important thing is ease of use,
it is of little use if the sound quality is the best in the world but if you
can't use it with a screen reader then it is a waste of time.  All comments
will be welcome and read.  Walter. 


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