Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-06-01 Thread Jim Noseworthy
Hello Folks:

Let's please address our comments to the meaning of the subject line. 
Barring that, Jonathan:  it might be a good idea to flag the subject line 
for deletion.

Cheers.


- Original Message - 
From: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 9:34 PM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 Contact me of
 -line.  I am not sure I have version 5.0 any more, but I think I may still 
 have a copy of version 6.0, and you can get the Jaws scripts from 
 www.snowmanradio.com.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Doc [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 11:58 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 : someone earlier mentioned that sf v5 had scripts available.  Where can I
 : find an copy of sf v5.0 to play with?
 : - Original Message -
 : From: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 : To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 : Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 10:16 PM
 : Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 :
 :
 : Frankly, I wouldn't want to be without either of them.  I find plenty of
 : uses for both, and Studio Recorder.
 :
 : - Original Message -
 : From: Rick Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 : To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 : Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 6:09 PM
 : Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 :
 :
 :: Oh hey I didn't mean what I said personally about you I just meant in
 :: general the SF people have been tending to give gw a bad rap.  I just
 : think
 :: they both have  different purposes for different people.  But I would 
 like
 :: to someday be able to give SF a try.
 ::
 :: Rick
 ::
 ::
 :: ===
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 :: Contact Information:
 ::
 :: Skype ID: rharmon928
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 ::
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 ::
 :: blind_geek_zone
 ::
 ::
 :: The chief handicap of the blind is not blindness, but the attitude of
 :: seeing people towards them.
 :: - Helen Keller, 1925
 ::
 ::
 ::
 :: - Original Message -
 :: From: Curtis Delzer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :: To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :: Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 7:05 PM
 :: Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 ::
 ::
 :: Hey man I dig GW for a lot of reasons, just the editing is different
 :: and not really intuitive, every keystroke has to be learned rather
 :: than incoporated from another program like word or a text editor. If
 :: GW did that rather than what they do, (rather than the $200 for sr or
 :: $225 for SF and NR,) I'd be using it exclusively and totally!
 ::
 ::
 ::
 :: Curtis Delzer
 ::
 ::
 ::
 ::
 :: At 03:36 PM 5/30/2006, you wrote:
 :: Hi,
 :: 
 :: Yeah I am sure you are right and I would like to use SF but I just 
 don't
 :: have $225 for it and I could afford the $50 for GW.   I guess that all 
 I
 : am
 :: trying to say is don't give gw such a bad rap, its quite good for the
 : money
 :: and I am sure that SF is probably much better in many ways to gw.
 :: 
 :: Rick
 :: 
 :: ===
 :: 
 :: Contact Information:
 :: 
 :: Skype ID: rharmon928
 :: MSN ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :: Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :: Phone: 330-724-6093
 :: Location: Akron, Ohio USA
 :: 
 :: Visit my new mailing list on www.freelists.org
 :: 
 :: blind_geek_zone
 :: 
 :: 
 :: The chief handicap of the blind is not blindness, but the attitude of
 :: seeing people towards them.
 :: - Helen Keller, 1925
 :: 
 :: 
 :: 
 :: - Original Message -
 :: From: Curtis Delzer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :: To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :: Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 6:22 PM
 :: Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 :: 
 :: 
 :: There are many times I wish to do better than 1 one hundredth of a
 :: second, particularly when it comes to clicks, pops, etc which sf and
 :: sr do much better with scrubbing, where you can tell, audibly, where
 :: it is you're editing, and how it will sound after you're done.
 :: 
 :: 
 :: Curtis Delzer
 :: 
 :: 
 :: 
 :: 
 :: At 08:53 AM 5/25/2006, you wrote:
 ::  It took me a bit to figure it out but once you get the hang of it 
 its
 : not
 ::  hard to do with goldwave.  I am interested in Sf as well just don't
 : have
 ::  the
 ::  money to spend on it.  I do feel for the money goldwave is the best
 ::  editor.
 ::  
 ::  Rick
 ::  
 ::  
 ::  ===
 ::  
 ::  Contact Information:
 ::  
 ::  Skype ID: rharmon928
 ::  MSN ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ::  Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ::  Phone: 330-724-6093
 ::  Location: Akron, Ohio USA
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 ::  Visit my new mailing list on www.freelists.org
 ::  
 ::  blind_geek_zone
 ::  
 ::  
 ::  The chief handicap of the blind is not blindness, but the attitude 
 of
 ::  seeing people towards them.
 ::  - Helen Keller, 1925
 ::  
 ::  
 ::  
 ::  - Original Message -
 ::  From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ::  To: PC audio discussion

Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-06-01 Thread HF
Where do you get this tutorial? I've tried searching for it using google and 
have had no luck.

HF
- Original Message - 
From: dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 1:35 PM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 for the people. in the galaxy of stars. a guy who calls himself 
 startbutton
 did it. its in 10 parts.
 - Original Message - 
 From: HF [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:24 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 That sounds like an interesting tutorial. Where can you get it?

 HF
 - Original Message - 
 From: dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 10:33 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


i get exilent braudcast quality with goldwave and find it to be just fine
 for working quickly. for example in an hours time i have done 30 imagers
 with sound efects and a few open and closers for football and baseball
 braudcasts for the espn radio station that i work for. there is a
 totorial
 at for the people in 10 parts that if you get it you will know the ins
 and
 outs of goldwave and be using it very fast in no time. he uses jaws and
 no
 scrips are needed.that really sold me on it.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 9:12 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


I think you can get good broadcast quality from goldwave, but the 
program
is
 awkward to work with when you are in a hurry.

 - Original Message - 
 From: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:07 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


I guess I wouldn't be as concerned about how small a piece as I am
things
like the equalizer, noise reduction, click and crackle features,
compression, and mixing choices.  But, that doesn't mean that my needs
are
the same as everybody else on this list.  So, at the very least a 
person
should be compairing Goldwave to at least one other sound editor in a
price
range that they can afford.  And, I would be willing to bet that
Goldwave
will be fine for 80 percent or more of persons who are not concerned
with
getting broadcast quality for every file they edit.



 - Original Message - 
 From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 12:59 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 : With GW you can edit to within a thousandth of a second or finer. 
 How
 much
 : finer do you want than that?
 :
 : Bruce
 :
 : -- 
 : Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
 : gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
 :
 : Bruce Toews
 : E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 : Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net
 : Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
 http://www.ogts.net
 : Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
 :
 : On Thu, 25 May 2006, Gary Schindler wrote:
 :
 :  the only thing I wish that goldwave could do is to be a more
 precise
 or
 :  finer editor. you can't beat soundforges editing capabilities at
 any
 price.
 : 
 :  - Original Message -
 :  From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:29 AM
 :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 : 
 : 
 :  Some people say, You get what you pay for!  But actually, you
 have
 to
 :  take
 :  a lot of things into consideration when purchasing a sound 
 editor!
 What
 :  features and abilities you want with a sound editor, and also,
 what
 you
 :  can
 :  afford!
 :  - Original Message -
 :  From: Brian Olesen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 3:42 PM
 :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 : 
 : 
 :  HI,
 :  But it's also pretty expensive.
 : 
 :  Best regards
 :  Brian
 :  - Original Message -
 :  From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:38 PM
 :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 : 
 : 
 :  I think that from what I've heard so far, that Studio Recorder
 from
 APH
 :  is
 :  also quite a program!
 :  - Original Message -
 :  From: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 12:59 AM
 :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 : 
 : 
 :  I think that the individual needs to take a look at each,
 decide
 what
 :  they
 :  really need to do, and after all that then make the decision 
 on
 how much
 :  they are willing to pay to get the editor that will do what
 they
 need to
 :  do.  I really like

Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-06-01 Thread dennis
go to
http://www.for-the-people.com/ you'll have to join but its painless and 
easy. then you go into the galaxy of stars and its in there.
- Original Message - 
From: HF [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 9:19 AM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 Where do you get this tutorial? I've tried searching for it using google 
 and
 have had no luck.

 HF
 - Original Message - 
 From: dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 1:35 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 for the people. in the galaxy of stars. a guy who calls himself
 startbutton
 did it. its in 10 parts.
 - Original Message - 
 From: HF [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:24 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 That sounds like an interesting tutorial. Where can you get it?

 HF
 - Original Message - 
 From: dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 10:33 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


i get exilent braudcast quality with goldwave and find it to be just 
fine
 for working quickly. for example in an hours time i have done 30 
 imagers
 with sound efects and a few open and closers for football and baseball
 braudcasts for the espn radio station that i work for. there is a
 totorial
 at for the people in 10 parts that if you get it you will know the ins
 and
 outs of goldwave and be using it very fast in no time. he uses jaws and
 no
 scrips are needed.that really sold me on it.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 9:12 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


I think you can get good broadcast quality from goldwave, but the
program
is
 awkward to work with when you are in a hurry.

 - Original Message - 
 From: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:07 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


I guess I wouldn't be as concerned about how small a piece as I am
things
like the equalizer, noise reduction, click and crackle features,
compression, and mixing choices.  But, that doesn't mean that my needs
are
the same as everybody else on this list.  So, at the very least a
person
should be compairing Goldwave to at least one other sound editor in a
price
range that they can afford.  And, I would be willing to bet that
Goldwave
will be fine for 80 percent or more of persons who are not concerned
with
getting broadcast quality for every file they edit.



 - Original Message - 
 From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 12:59 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 : With GW you can edit to within a thousandth of a second or finer.
 How
 much
 : finer do you want than that?
 :
 : Bruce
 :
 : -- 
 : Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
 : gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
 :
 : Bruce Toews
 : E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 : Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net
 : Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
 http://www.ogts.net
 : Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
 :
 : On Thu, 25 May 2006, Gary Schindler wrote:
 :
 :  the only thing I wish that goldwave could do is to be a more
 precise
 or
 :  finer editor. you can't beat soundforges editing capabilities at
 any
 price.
 : 
 :  - Original Message -
 :  From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:29 AM
 :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 : 
 : 
 :  Some people say, You get what you pay for!  But actually, you
 have
 to
 :  take
 :  a lot of things into consideration when purchasing a sound
 editor!
 What
 :  features and abilities you want with a sound editor, and also,
 what
 you
 :  can
 :  afford!
 :  - Original Message -
 :  From: Brian Olesen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 3:42 PM
 :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 : 
 : 
 :  HI,
 :  But it's also pretty expensive.
 : 
 :  Best regards
 :  Brian
 :  - Original Message -
 :  From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:38 PM
 :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 : 
 : 
 :  I think that from what I've heard so far, that Studio Recorder
 from
 APH
 :  is
 :  also quite a program!
 :  - Original Message -
 :  From: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006

RE: Admin RE: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-06-01 Thread Rick Alfaro
Dave,

I don't do that much editing of audio, but I have used WavePad for simple
projects, and it is very accessible.

 




--Best regards,

--Rick Alfaro
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of David Tanner
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 8:53 PM
To: PC audio discussion list. 
Subject: Re: Admin RE: gold wave vs sound forge

Here is an audio question for everybody.

Has anyone looked at the latest release of WavePad, and how accessible would
it be for a beginner just wanting to start getting their feet wet on a
simple audio editor?


- Original Message -
From: Jonathan Mosen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 8:29 AM
Subject: Admin RE: gold wave vs sound forge


: Guys we're now starting to drift well off the topic of this list. Please
: let's keep on track with discussion of audio on the PC.
: 
: Jonathan Mosen
: Blog, podcast and radio show: http://www.MosenExplosion.com
: Ph: +1-925-566-9265.
: Mobile/SMS +1-806-252-6671
: 
: 
: -Original Message-
: From: the mighty spork [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
: Sent: Wednesday, 31 May 2006 12:01 a.m.
: To: PC audio discussion list. 
: Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
: 
: 
: now was that wordperfect 4.2?  At least you didn't have to type w
wa
: 
: out in edlin.
: 
: Rick
: - Original Message - 
: From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
: Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 12:37 AM
: Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
: 
: 
:  Actualy I'm not all that old. You see, when I was born, my parents 
:  didn't like noise. So instead of crying, I had to type waa, 
:  underlined and boldfaced, in WordPerfect, print it out, and hand it to 
:  my mother.
: 
:  Bruce
: 
:  --
:  Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
:  gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
: 
:  Bruce Toews
:  E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:  Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net
:  Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): 
:  http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: 
:  http://www.cornergas.com
: 
:  On Tue, 30 May 2006, David Tanner wrote:
: 
:  Man you must be old.  You actually used DOS!!!
: 
:  Sorry, I just couldn't resist!!! (SMILE)
: 
: 
: 
:  - Original Message -
:  From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
:  Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 6:33 PM
:  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
: 
: 
:  : You'll find that it's a realy powerful way to get precision, 
:  especially
:  : given that you can slow rewind and fast forward to slower than normal
:  : speeds. I do all of my radio shows with GW: I don't use a mixer, the 
:  what
:  : you hear option or other software, I mix the whole thing using Gold 
:  Wave.
:  : Once you're used to the interface, and after coming from the old
:  : WordPerfect Dos days, this interface was a piece of cake for me
:  : personally, a great deal of precision is possible.
:  :
:  : Bruce
:  :
:  : --
:  : Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
:  : gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
:  :
:  : Bruce Toews
:  : E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:  : Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net
:  : Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): 
:  http://www.ogts.net
:  : Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
:  :
:  : On Tue, 30 May 2006, Rick Harmon wrote:
:  :
:  :  I am a novice still and mostly use the keyboard controls to move
the
:  :  markers.  I am not real good with percise positioning with the
rewind
: 
:  and
:  :  fast forward keys yet.
:  : 
:  :  Rick
:  : 
:  : 
:  :  ===
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:  : 
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:  :  MSN ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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:  : 
:  :  Visit my new mailing list on www.freelists.org
:  : 
:  :  blind_geek_zone
:  : 
:  : 
:  :  The chief handicap of the blind is not blindness, but the attitude

:  of
:  :  seeing people towards them.
:  :  - Helen Keller, 1925
:  : 
:  : 
:  : 
:  :  - Original Message -
:  :  From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:  :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
:  :  Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 7:16 PM
:  :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
:  : 
:  : 
:  :  You're confusing moving the markers witht he arrow/control/shift
keys
: 
:  and
:  :  finer adjustments such as moving with fast forward and rewind and 
:  direct
:  :  input of start and finish markers by time.
:  : 
:  :  Bruce
:  : 
:  : 
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Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-31 Thread Rick Harmon
UGH, i remember edlin.  I used pc's when cp/m was king lol.

Rik


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The chief handicap of the blind is not blindness, but the attitude of 
seeing people towards them.
- Helen Keller, 1925



- Original Message - 
From: the mighty spork [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 1:01 AM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


now was that wordperfect 4.2?  At least you didn't have to type w wa
out in edlin.

Rick
- Original Message - 
From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 12:37 AM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 Actualy I'm not all that old. You see, when I was born, my parents didn't
 like noise. So instead of crying, I had to type waa, underlined and
 boldfaced, in WordPerfect, print it out, and hand it to my mother.

 Bruce

 -- 
 Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
 gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV

 Bruce Toews
 E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net
 Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net
 Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com

 On Tue, 30 May 2006, David Tanner wrote:

 Man you must be old.  You actually used DOS!!!

 Sorry, I just couldn't resist!!! (SMILE)



 - Original Message -
 From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 6:33 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 : You'll find that it's a realy powerful way to get precision, especially
 : given that you can slow rewind and fast forward to slower than normal
 : speeds. I do all of my radio shows with GW: I don't use a mixer, the
 what
 : you hear option or other software, I mix the whole thing using Gold
 Wave.
 : Once you're used to the interface, and after coming from the old
 : WordPerfect Dos days, this interface was a piece of cake for me
 : personally, a great deal of precision is possible.
 :
 : Bruce
 :
 : --
 : Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
 : gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
 :
 : Bruce Toews
 : E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 : Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net
 : Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
 http://www.ogts.net
 : Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
 :
 : On Tue, 30 May 2006, Rick Harmon wrote:
 :
 :  I am a novice still and mostly use the keyboard controls to move the
 :  markers.  I am not real good with percise positioning with the rewind
 and
 :  fast forward keys yet.
 : 
 :  Rick
 : 
 : 
 :  ===
 : 
 :  Contact Information:
 : 
 :  Skype ID: rharmon928
 :  MSN ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  Phone: 330-724-6093
 :  Location: Akron, Ohio USA
 : 
 :  Visit my new mailing list on www.freelists.org
 : 
 :  blind_geek_zone
 : 
 : 
 :  The chief handicap of the blind is not blindness, but the attitude
 of
 :  seeing people towards them.
 :  - Helen Keller, 1925
 : 
 : 
 : 
 :  - Original Message -
 :  From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 7:16 PM
 :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 : 
 : 
 :  You're confusing moving the markers witht he arrow/control/shift keys
 and
 :  finer adjustments such as moving with fast forward and rewind and
 direct
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Admin RE: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-31 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Guys we're now starting to drift well off the topic of this list. Please
let's keep on track with discussion of audio on the PC.

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-Original Message-
From: the mighty spork [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, 31 May 2006 12:01 a.m.
To: PC audio discussion list. 
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


now was that wordperfect 4.2?  At least you didn't have to type w wa

out in edlin.

Rick
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Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 Actualy I'm not all that old. You see, when I was born, my parents 
 didn't like noise. So instead of crying, I had to type waa, 
 underlined and boldfaced, in WordPerfect, print it out, and hand it to 
 my mother.

 Bruce

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 On Tue, 30 May 2006, David Tanner wrote:

 Man you must be old.  You actually used DOS!!!

 Sorry, I just couldn't resist!!! (SMILE)



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 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 : You'll find that it's a realy powerful way to get precision, 
 especially
 : given that you can slow rewind and fast forward to slower than normal
 : speeds. I do all of my radio shows with GW: I don't use a mixer, the 
 what
 : you hear option or other software, I mix the whole thing using Gold 
 Wave.
 : Once you're used to the interface, and after coming from the old
 : WordPerfect Dos days, this interface was a piece of cake for me
 : personally, a great deal of precision is possible.
 :
 : Bruce
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 :
 : On Tue, 30 May 2006, Rick Harmon wrote:
 :
 :  I am a novice still and mostly use the keyboard controls to move the
 :  markers.  I am not real good with percise positioning with the rewind

 and
 :  fast forward keys yet.
 : 
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 : 
 :  You're confusing moving the markers witht he arrow/control/shift keys

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Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-31 Thread dennis
exactly. i use goldwave to do all of my radio work as well and its very 
smooth.
- Original Message - 
From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 You'll find that it's a realy powerful way to get precision, especially
 given that you can slow rewind and fast forward to slower than normal
 speeds. I do all of my radio shows with GW: I don't use a mixer, the what
 you hear option or other software, I mix the whole thing using Gold Wave.
 Once you're used to the interface, and after coming from the old
 WordPerfect Dos days, this interface was a piece of cake for me
 personally, a great deal of precision is possible.

 Bruce

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 On Tue, 30 May 2006, Rick Harmon wrote:

 I am a novice still and mostly use the keyboard controls to move the
 markers.  I am not real good with percise positioning with the rewind and
 fast forward keys yet.

 Rick


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 You're confusing moving the markers witht he arrow/control/shift keys and
 finer adjustments such as moving with fast forward and rewind and direct
 input of start and finish markers by time.

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Re: Re[2]: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-31 Thread the mighty spork
I started out using this comidor at school no speach, and you had to walk 
down the hall to put in a flopy disc.  That was quite .. interesting.

In 1992 I had a 386 25mhz with a 105 meg hd.  I was stuck with personal vert 
and softvert from TSI.  What a hellish setup!!!  At least I didn't have to 
park my hd when shutting down.

Rick

- Original Message - 
From: Patrick Perdue [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 1:57 AM
Subject: Re[2]: gold wave vs sound forge


 Hello the,

 On Wednesday, May 31, 2006, 12:28:50 AM, you bellowed the following:
 I'm 28, and I used dos.  I am not old thank you very much lol.


 Likewise, I am 22 and used Dos.
 Actually, I started out using a Mac 2SI (16 MHZ processor, 4 MB ram and
 a 40 MB hard drive). Despite these specs, in 1992, it was able to run
 software speech and play other sounds at the same time.
 I then later moved to Dos on a 386 DX25 with a hard drive so old that
 you still had to type park before shutting the machine down. Yay for
 drives with no auto-parking!




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Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-31 Thread David Tanner
Contact me of
-line.  I am not sure I have version 5.0 any more, but I think I may still have 
a copy of version 6.0, and you can get the Jaws scripts from 
www.snowmanradio.com.
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Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


: someone earlier mentioned that sf v5 had scripts available.  Where can I
: find an copy of sf v5.0 to play with?
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: From: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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: 
: 
: Frankly, I wouldn't want to be without either of them.  I find plenty of
: uses for both, and Studio Recorder.
: 
: - Original Message -
: From: Rick Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
: Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 6:09 PM
: Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
: 
: 
:: Oh hey I didn't mean what I said personally about you I just meant in
:: general the SF people have been tending to give gw a bad rap.  I just
: think
:: they both have  different purposes for different people.  But I would like
:: to someday be able to give SF a try.
::
:: Rick
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::
::
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:: seeing people towards them.
:: - Helen Keller, 1925
::
::
::
:: - Original Message -
:: From: Curtis Delzer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:: To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
:: Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 7:05 PM
:: Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
::
::
:: Hey man I dig GW for a lot of reasons, just the editing is different
:: and not really intuitive, every keystroke has to be learned rather
:: than incoporated from another program like word or a text editor. If
:: GW did that rather than what they do, (rather than the $200 for sr or
:: $225 for SF and NR,) I'd be using it exclusively and totally!
::
::
::
:: Curtis Delzer
::
::
::
::
:: At 03:36 PM 5/30/2006, you wrote:
:: Hi,
:: 
:: Yeah I am sure you are right and I would like to use SF but I just don't
:: have $225 for it and I could afford the $50 for GW.   I guess that all I
: am
:: trying to say is don't give gw such a bad rap, its quite good for the
: money
:: and I am sure that SF is probably much better in many ways to gw.
:: 
:: Rick
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:: 
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:: seeing people towards them.
:: - Helen Keller, 1925
:: 
:: 
:: 
:: - Original Message -
:: From: Curtis Delzer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:: To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
:: Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 6:22 PM
:: Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
:: 
:: 
:: There are many times I wish to do better than 1 one hundredth of a
:: second, particularly when it comes to clicks, pops, etc which sf and
:: sr do much better with scrubbing, where you can tell, audibly, where
:: it is you're editing, and how it will sound after you're done.
:: 
:: 
:: Curtis Delzer
:: 
:: 
:: 
:: 
:: At 08:53 AM 5/25/2006, you wrote:
::  It took me a bit to figure it out but once you get the hang of it its
: not
::  hard to do with goldwave.  I am interested in Sf as well just don't
: have
::  the
::  money to spend on it.  I do feel for the money goldwave is the best
::  editor.
::  
::  Rick
::  
::  
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::  
::  
::  The chief handicap of the blind is not blindness, but the attitude of
::  seeing people towards them.
::  - Helen Keller, 1925
::  
::  
::  
::  - Original Message -
::  From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
::  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
::  Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 11:48 AM
::  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
::  
::  
::  This does sound like great editing capability!
::  - Original Message -
::  From: Rick Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
::  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
::  Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 11:12 AM
::  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
::  
::  
::Hi Gary,
::   
::I can edit down to 1/100th of a second in goldwave.  How much more
::could
::you
::need?
::   
::Rick

Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-31 Thread David Tanner
Edlin!  Now there is a real earlybird.  I did my PC Assembler programs using 
Edlin.  But, before I saw WordPerfect 4.1 I used WordStar 3.0.  At the time 
WordStar was considered to be the best of the word processors around.



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: now was that wordperfect 4.2?  At least you didn't have to type w wa 
: out in edlin.
: 
: Rick
: - Original Message - 
: From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
: Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 12:37 AM
: Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
: 
: 
:  Actualy I'm not all that old. You see, when I was born, my parents didn't
:  like noise. So instead of crying, I had to type waa, underlined and
:  boldfaced, in WordPerfect, print it out, and hand it to my mother.
: 
:  Bruce
: 
:  -- 
:  Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
:  gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
: 
:  Bruce Toews
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: 
:  On Tue, 30 May 2006, David Tanner wrote:
: 
:  Man you must be old.  You actually used DOS!!!
: 
:  Sorry, I just couldn't resist!!! (SMILE)
: 
: 
: 
:  - Original Message -
:  From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
:  Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 6:33 PM
:  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
: 
: 
:  : You'll find that it's a realy powerful way to get precision, especially
:  : given that you can slow rewind and fast forward to slower than normal
:  : speeds. I do all of my radio shows with GW: I don't use a mixer, the 
:  what
:  : you hear option or other software, I mix the whole thing using Gold 
:  Wave.
:  : Once you're used to the interface, and after coming from the old
:  : WordPerfect Dos days, this interface was a piece of cake for me
:  : personally, a great deal of precision is possible.
:  :
:  : Bruce
:  :
:  : --
:  : Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
:  : gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
:  :
:  : Bruce Toews
:  : E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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:  : Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): 
:  http://www.ogts.net
:  : Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
:  :
:  : On Tue, 30 May 2006, Rick Harmon wrote:
:  :
:  :  I am a novice still and mostly use the keyboard controls to move the
:  :  markers.  I am not real good with percise positioning with the rewind 
:  and
:  :  fast forward keys yet.
:  : 
:  :  Rick
:  : 
:  : 
:  :  ===
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:  : 
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:  : 
:  : 
:  :  The chief handicap of the blind is not blindness, but the attitude 
:  of
:  :  seeing people towards them.
:  :  - Helen Keller, 1925
:  : 
:  : 
:  : 
:  :  - Original Message -
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:  :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
:  : 
:  : 
:  :  You're confusing moving the markers witht he arrow/control/shift keys 
:  and
:  :  finer adjustments such as moving with fast forward and rewind and 
:  direct
:  :  input of start and finish markers by time.
:  : 
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Re: Re[2]: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-31 Thread David Tanner
My first desktop computer was a Comodore Vic20 with 2.6K of memory, everything 
was done in BASIC, no disk drive, you saved and loaded programs from a cassette 
tape drive.  In order to use that computer I had it hooked to a 27 inch tv so I 
could get the letters large enough to read them.   The maximum characters per 
line was 22.  I never will forget using that machine in 1982 to connect with 
CompuServe at 300BPS.  What an amazing thing to be able to connect my little 
computer to a huge computer over a telephone line.


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: Hello the,
: 
: On Wednesday, May 31, 2006, 12:28:50 AM, you bellowed the following:
:  I'm 28, and I used dos.  I am not old thank you very much lol.
: 
: 
: Likewise, I am 22 and used Dos.
: Actually, I started out using a Mac 2SI (16 MHZ processor, 4 MB ram and
: a 40 MB hard drive). Despite these specs, in 1992, it was able to run
: software speech and play other sounds at the same time.
: I then later moved to Dos on a 386 DX25 with a hard drive so old that
: you still had to type park before shutting the machine down. Yay for
: drives with no auto-parking!
: 
: 
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Re: Admin RE: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-31 Thread David Tanner
Here is an audio question for everybody.

Has anyone looked at the latest release of WavePad, and how accessible would it 
be for a beginner just wanting to start getting their feet wet on a simple 
audio editor?


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: Guys we're now starting to drift well off the topic of this list. Please
: let's keep on track with discussion of audio on the PC.
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: -Original Message-
: From: the mighty spork [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
: Sent: Wednesday, 31 May 2006 12:01 a.m.
: To: PC audio discussion list. 
: Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
: 
: 
: now was that wordperfect 4.2?  At least you didn't have to type w wa
: 
: out in edlin.
: 
: Rick
: - Original Message - 
: From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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: Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
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: 
:  Actualy I'm not all that old. You see, when I was born, my parents 
:  didn't like noise. So instead of crying, I had to type waa, 
:  underlined and boldfaced, in WordPerfect, print it out, and hand it to 
:  my mother.
: 
:  Bruce
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:  - Original Message -
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: 
:  : You'll find that it's a realy powerful way to get precision, 
:  especially
:  : given that you can slow rewind and fast forward to slower than normal
:  : speeds. I do all of my radio shows with GW: I don't use a mixer, the 
:  what
:  : you hear option or other software, I mix the whole thing using Gold 
:  Wave.
:  : Once you're used to the interface, and after coming from the old
:  : WordPerfect Dos days, this interface was a piece of cake for me
:  : personally, a great deal of precision is possible.
:  :
:  : Bruce
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:  : --
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:  :
:  : On Tue, 30 May 2006, Rick Harmon wrote:
:  :
:  :  I am a novice still and mostly use the keyboard controls to move the
:  :  markers.  I am not real good with percise positioning with the rewind
: 
:  and
:  :  fast forward keys yet.
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WavePad: Was: Re: Admin RE: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-31 Thread Allison Mervis
Hi!
I don't know the answer, but I've modified the subject to reflect the change 
of topic.
Allison

- Original Message - 
From: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: Admin RE: gold wave vs sound forge


 Here is an audio question for everybody.

 Has anyone looked at the latest release of WavePad, and how accessible 
 would it be for a beginner just wanting to start getting their feet wet on 
 a simple audio editor?


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 Subject: Admin RE: gold wave vs sound forge


 : Guys we're now starting to drift well off the topic of this list. Please
 : let's keep on track with discussion of audio on the PC.
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 : -Original Message-
 : From: the mighty spork [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 : Sent: Wednesday, 31 May 2006 12:01 a.m.
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 : Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 :
 :
 : now was that wordperfect 4.2?  At least you didn't have to type w 
 wa
 :
 : out in edlin.
 :
 : Rick
 : - Original Message - 
 : From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 : To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 : Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 12:37 AM
 : Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 :
 :
 :  Actualy I'm not all that old. You see, when I was born, my parents
 :  didn't like noise. So instead of crying, I had to type waa,
 :  underlined and boldfaced, in WordPerfect, print it out, and hand it to
 :  my mother.
 : 
 :  Bruce
 : 
 :  --
 :  Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
 :  gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
 : 
 :  Bruce Toews
 :  E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net
 :  Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
 :  http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time:
 :  http://www.cornergas.com
 : 
 :  On Tue, 30 May 2006, David Tanner wrote:
 : 
 :  Man you must be old.  You actually used DOS!!!
 : 
 :  Sorry, I just couldn't resist!!! (SMILE)
 : 
 : 
 : 
 :  - Original Message -
 :  From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 6:33 PM
 :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 : 
 : 
 :  : You'll find that it's a realy powerful way to get precision,
 :  especially
 :  : given that you can slow rewind and fast forward to slower than 
 normal
 :  : speeds. I do all of my radio shows with GW: I don't use a mixer, 
 the
 :  what
 :  : you hear option or other software, I mix the whole thing using Gold
 :  Wave.
 :  : Once you're used to the interface, and after coming from the old
 :  : WordPerfect Dos days, this interface was a piece of cake for me
 :  : personally, a great deal of precision is possible.
 :  :
 :  : Bruce
 :  :
 :  : --
 :  : Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
 :  : gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
 :  :
 :  : Bruce Toews
 :  : E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  : Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net
 :  : Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
 :  http://www.ogts.net
 :  : Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
 :  :
 :  : On Tue, 30 May 2006, Rick Harmon wrote:
 :  :
 :  :  I am a novice still and mostly use the keyboard controls to move 
 the
 :  :  markers.  I am not real good with percise positioning with the 
 rewind
 :
 :  and
 :  :  fast forward keys yet.
 :  : 
 :  :  Rick
 :  : 
 :  : 
 :  :  ===
 :  : 
 :  :  Contact Information:
 :  : 
 :  :  Skype ID: rharmon928
 :  :  MSN ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  :  Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 attitude
 :  of
 :  :  seeing people towards them.
 :  :  - Helen Keller, 1925
 :  : 
 :  : 
 :  : 
 :  :  - Original Message -
 :  :  From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  :  Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 7:16 PM
 :  :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 :  : 
 :  : 
 :  :  You're confusing moving the markers witht he arrow/control/shift 
 keys
 :
 :  and
 :  :  finer adjustments such as moving with fast forward and rewind and
 :  direct
 :  :  input of start and finish markers by time.
 :  : 
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Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-30 Thread Curtis Delzer
Gold wave takes  about 4 times the time to noise reduce than the NR 
plug-in for Sound Forge, the interface takes getting use too with 
regard to cursoring around in the program, interface is a little like 
a cassette machine with rewind and fast forward though in sf8 you can 
do that also; the batch converting is a little more friendly in GW 
than SF; handling large files is a lot easier with SF than GW going 
to a finding a place by cursoring in SF after jumping to a time is a 
good bit easier because the jumps can be changed in either forward or 
backward direction with the up or down arrow; handling splitting 
files between channels in SF is easier because you can tell which 
channel is monitored by what you hear, rather than hearing both at 
once all the time, (same as SR which does that), reversing takes a 
good bit longer in GW than SF if you're converting an NLS cassette 
and need to reverse the right channel, etc.' some others but those 
are what I can think of right now.



Curtis Delzer



At 04:09 AM 5/23/2006, you wrote:
Just to throw in another variable: Soundforge has a much longer  history of
folks creating script and set files.

One benifit of GoldWave over SoundForge is that Goldwave is much less
processor intensive.

Cheers.




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Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 5:06 AM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


  Hello. I prefer Sound Forge because of the scrubbing features it has. I
  also
  like the effects but don't get me wrong, Gold Wave is a very good program.
  For me Sound forge is a little bit more accessible. Of course, Sound Forge
  was the first editor I had experience with and that I think does color an
  oppion sometimes. It's like finding a car though. You can find 6 people
  who
  like Fords and 6 people who like shevys. The best way is first, can you
  afford both programs in question and then second, download and try out
  each
  demo.
 
  Just my thoughts,
 
  Chuck
 
  P.S. I think some of the audio I've produced using the Noise Reduction
  plugins with Sound Forge seem to have better quality then some of the NR
  effects I've used with Sound Forge.
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 2:15 AM
  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 
 
  Hi Denny!  I like Soundforge because of all the effects that it has, as
  well
  as really enjoy the noisereduction plug-in, and I also like the ability
  to
  pitch shift with it!
  - Original Message -
  From: Denny Daughters [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
  Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 1:40 PM
  Subject: gold wave vs sound forge
 
 
  Hi guys,
 Right now I use a basic sound editor called Fast Edit.  I find it
  useful for doing what I need to get done.  When I bought it about 3
  years
  ago, I wanted something I'd used before and I didn't want to learn a
  whole
  new program.
 I've looked at goldwave and sure it's much more powerful with
  effects,
  de-popping records, batch conversion to any formats, that kind of thing.
  I don't like the editing interface, how you can't hear right where that
  final bracket drops.  I suppose I can get used to it.  The price of gold
  wave is tempting, sound forge on the other hand costs more and that's
  really all I know about it.  What do you all like and or dislike about
  goldwave and soundforge? Thanks.
  Denny
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Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-30 Thread Curtis Delzer
Yeah, the sf sets viturally and in all ways STINK with window-eyes 
and sf where the jfw 5 (free) sound forge scripts work quite nicely 
with sf5 but... sf8 and jfw don't get along unless you buy scripts 
for it, though sf8 can be used if you know the program.
One thing guys, what about sf, gw, and sr, regarding these *.wma 
files which have licenses? Can't one just listen and monitor the 
input using an editor, recording a *.wav and make your m4A or mp3 
from that? 1X, true, though what about winamp and the disk writer 
plug-in? rabbit trail I know, but there it is.


Curtis Delzer








At 06:37 AM 5/23/2006, you wrote:
Fyi, I never use sets with SF.

- Original Message -
From: Jim Noseworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 7:09 AM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


  Just to throw in another variable: Soundforge has a much longer  history
  of
  folks creating script and set files.
 
  One benifit of GoldWave over SoundForge is that Goldwave is much less
  processor intensive.
 
  Cheers.
 
 
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Chuck Adkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
  Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 5:06 AM
  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 
 
  Hello. I prefer Sound Forge because of the scrubbing features it has. I
  also
  like the effects but don't get me wrong, Gold Wave is a very good
  program.
  For me Sound forge is a little bit more accessible. Of course, Sound
  Forge
  was the first editor I had experience with and that I think does color an
  oppion sometimes. It's like finding a car though. You can find 6 people
  who
  like Fords and 6 people who like shevys. The best way is first, can you
  afford both programs in question and then second, download and try out
  each
  demo.
 
  Just my thoughts,
 
  Chuck
 
  P.S. I think some of the audio I've produced using the Noise Reduction
  plugins with Sound Forge seem to have better quality then some of the NR
  effects I've used with Sound Forge.
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
  Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 2:15 AM
  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 
 
  Hi Denny!  I like Soundforge because of all the effects that it has, as
  well
  as really enjoy the noisereduction plug-in, and I also like the ability
  to
  pitch shift with it!
  - Original Message -
  From: Denny Daughters [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
  Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 1:40 PM
  Subject: gold wave vs sound forge
 
 
  Hi guys,
 Right now I use a basic sound editor called Fast Edit.  I find it
  useful for doing what I need to get done.  When I bought it about 3
  years
  ago, I wanted something I'd used before and I didn't want to learn a
  whole
  new program.
 I've looked at goldwave and sure it's much more powerful with
  effects,
  de-popping records, batch conversion to any formats, that kind of
  thing.
  I don't like the editing interface, how you can't hear right where that
  final bracket drops.  I suppose I can get used to it.  The price of
  gold
  wave is tempting, sound forge on the other hand costs more and that's
  really all I know about it.  What do you all like and or dislike about
  goldwave and soundforge? Thanks.
  Denny
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Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-30 Thread Curtis Delzer
There are many times I wish to do better than 1 one hundredth of a 
second, particularly when it comes to clicks, pops, etc which sf and 
sr do much better with scrubbing, where you can tell, audibly, where 
it is you're editing, and how it will sound after you're done.


Curtis Delzer




At 08:53 AM 5/25/2006, you wrote:
It took me a bit to figure it out but once you get the hang of it its not
hard to do with goldwave.  I am interested in Sf as well just don't have the
money to spend on it.  I do feel for the money goldwave is the best editor.

Rick


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Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


This does sound like great editing capability!
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Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 11:12 AM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


  Hi Gary,
 
  I can edit down to 1/100th of a second in goldwave.  How much more could
  you
  need?
 
  Rick
 
 
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  From: Gary Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 10:42 AM
  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 
 
  the only thing I wish that goldwave could do is to be a more precise or
  finer editor. you can't beat soundforges editing capabilities at any
  price.
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
  Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:29 AM
  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 
 
  Some people say, You get what you pay for!  But actually, you have to
  take
  a lot of things into consideration when purchasing a sound editor!  What
  features and abilities you want with a sound editor, and also, what you
  can
  afford!
  - Original Message -
  From: Brian Olesen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
  Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 3:42 PM
  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 
 
  HI,
  But it's also pretty expensive.
 
  Best regards
  Brian
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  From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:38 PM
  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 
 
 I think that from what I've heard so far, that Studio Recorder from APH
 is
  also quite a program!
  - Original Message -
  From: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
  Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 12:59 AM
  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 
 
 I think that the individual needs to take a look at each, decide what
 they
 really need to do, and after all that then make the decision on how
 much
 they are willing to pay to get the editor that will do what they need
 to
 do.  I really like SoundForge, but I do a lot of audio for radio
 programs,
 etc.  The person simply wanting to get records to MP3 and clean the
 files
 up to make them sound good may decide that they don't need all the
 features
 of Soundforge, and that they can good enough quality with Goldwave or
 Audasity or something else.
 
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Chuck Adkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
  Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 3:06 AM
  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 
 
  : Hello. I prefer Sound Forge because of the scrubbing features it
  has.
  I
  also
  : like the effects but don't get me wrong, Gold Wave is a very good
  program.
  : For me Sound forge is a little bit more accessible. Of course, Sound
  Forge
  : was the first editor I had experience with and that I think does
  color
  an
  : oppion sometimes. It's like finding a car though. You can find 6
  people
  who
  : like Fords and 6 people who like shevys. The best way is first, can
  you
  : afford both programs in question and then second, download and try
  out
  each
  : demo.
  :
  : Just my thoughts,
  :
  : Chuck
  :
  : P.S. I think some of the audio I've produced using the Noise
  Reduction
  : plugins with Sound Forge seem to have better quality then some of
  the
  NR

Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-30 Thread Curtis Delzer
Yes, GW does a nice job at noise reduction for 2 reasons: (1) you 
have a long enough sample without speech, music or anything which is, 
at all, what you wish to keep, and (2) when you don't have a long 
sample, let GW use initial noise as the preset. It takes, again, 
quite a bit longer than the SF plug-in however, but it does work, 
only, and that is the important word, if used properly and if necessary.



Curtis Delzer




At 10:59 AM 5/28/2006, you wrote:
Doesn't prove anything except that you can't use it to do what you want.
You need more of a sample than that.

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Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


  Yeah, I used it a few times on some TV audio I record with my tuner, it
  sort
  of adds an under water  sound to things.
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Gary Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
  Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 9:16 AM
  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 
 
 I agree with your assessment. the  noise reduction in goldwave does a
 lousy
  job when you use noise from the clipboard.
  - Original Message -
  From: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
  Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 12:08 AM
  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 
 
  Maybe a better way of saying it is to say that in my opinion I do not
  feel
  that I can get as polished a finished product with Goldwave as I can
  with
  SoundForge without a lot more work, and a whole lot less flexability.
  And, the Goldwave noise reduction that is built-in is no place as good
  as
  the noise reduction in SoundForge.
 
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Gary Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
  Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 9:12 AM
  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 
 
  :I think you can get good broadcast quality from goldwave, but the
  program
  is
  : awkward to work with when you are in a hurry.
  :
  : - Original Message -
  : From: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  : To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
  : Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:07 AM
  : Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
  :
  :
  : I guess I wouldn't be as concerned about how small a piece as I am
  things
  : like the equalizer, noise reduction, click and crackle features,
  : compression, and mixing choices.  But, that doesn't mean that my
  needs
  are
  : the same as everybody else on this list.  So, at the very least a
  person
  : should be compairing Goldwave to at least one other sound editor in a
  price
  : range that they can afford.  And, I would be willing to bet that
  Goldwave
  : will be fine for 80 percent or more of persons who are not concerned
  with
  : getting broadcast quality for every file they edit.
  : 
  : 
  : 
  :  - Original Message -
  :  From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
  :  Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 12:59 PM
  :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
  : 
  : 
  :  : With GW you can edit to within a thousandth of a second or finer.
  How
  :  much
  :  : finer do you want than that?
  :  :
  :  : Bruce
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  :  :
  :  : On Thu, 25 May 2006, Gary Schindler wrote:
  :  :
  :  :  the only thing I wish that goldwave could do is to be a more
  precise
  :  or
  :  :  finer editor. you can't beat soundforges editing capabilities at
  any
  :  price.
  :  : 
  :  :  - Original Message -
  :  :  From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  :  :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
  :  :  Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:29 AM
  :  :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
  :  : 
  :  : 
  :  :  Some people say, You get what you pay for!  But actually, you
  have
  :  to
  :  :  take
  :  :  a lot of things into consideration when purchasing a sound
  editor!
  :  What
  :  :  features and abilities you want with a sound editor, and also,
  what
  :  you
  :  :  can
  :  :  afford!
  :  :  - Original Message -
  :  :  From: Brian Olesen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  :  :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
  :  :  Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 3:42 PM
  :  :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
  :  : 
  :  : 
  :  :  HI,
  :  :  But it's also pretty expensive.
  :  : 
  :  :  Best regards
  :  :  Brian
  :  :  - Original Message -
  :  :  From: Gary

Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-30 Thread Curtis Delzer
Hey man I dig GW for a lot of reasons, just the editing is different 
and not really intuitive, every keystroke has to be learned rather 
than incoporated from another program like word or a text editor. If 
GW did that rather than what they do, (rather than the $200 for sr or 
$225 for SF and NR,) I'd be using it exclusively and totally!



Curtis Delzer




At 03:36 PM 5/30/2006, you wrote:
Hi,

Yeah I am sure you are right and I would like to use SF but I just don't
have $225 for it and I could afford the $50 for GW.   I guess that all I am
trying to say is don't give gw such a bad rap, its quite good for the money
and I am sure that SF is probably much better in many ways to gw.

Rick

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- Original Message -
From: Curtis Delzer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 6:22 PM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


There are many times I wish to do better than 1 one hundredth of a
second, particularly when it comes to clicks, pops, etc which sf and
sr do much better with scrubbing, where you can tell, audibly, where
it is you're editing, and how it will sound after you're done.


Curtis Delzer




At 08:53 AM 5/25/2006, you wrote:
 It took me a bit to figure it out but once you get the hang of it its not
 hard to do with goldwave.  I am interested in Sf as well just don't have
 the
 money to spend on it.  I do feel for the money goldwave is the best editor.
 
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 - Original Message -
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 11:48 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 
 
 This does sound like great editing capability!
 - Original Message -
 From: Rick Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 11:12 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 
 
   Hi Gary,
  
   I can edit down to 1/100th of a second in goldwave.  How much more could
   you
   need?
  
   Rick
  
  
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   - Original Message -
   From: Gary Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
   Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 10:42 AM
   Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
  
  
   the only thing I wish that goldwave could do is to be a more precise or
   finer editor. you can't beat soundforges editing capabilities at any
   price.
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
   Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:29 AM
   Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
  
  
   Some people say, You get what you pay for!  But actually, you have to
   take
   a lot of things into consideration when purchasing a sound editor!
   What
   features and abilities you want with a sound editor, and also, what you
   can
   afford!
   - Original Message -
   From: Brian Olesen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
   Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 3:42 PM
   Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
  
  
   HI,
   But it's also pretty expensive.
  
   Best regards
   Brian
   - Original Message -
   From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
   Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:38 PM
   Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
  
  
  I think that from what I've heard so far, that Studio Recorder from
  APH
  is
   also quite a program!
   - Original Message -
   From: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
   Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 12:59 AM
   Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
  
  
  I think that the individual needs to take a look at each, decide what
  they
  really need to do, and after all that then make the decision on how
  much
  they are willing to pay to get the editor

Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-30 Thread Gary Petraccaro
Never had it have a problem.

- Original Message - 
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Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 That q thing doesn't work so well for me all the time.  What do you
 know, it's working right now.
 Thanks.

   Jerry

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Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-30 Thread Bruce Toews
You'll find that it's a realy powerful way to get precision, especially 
given that you can slow rewind and fast forward to slower than normal 
speeds. I do all of my radio shows with GW: I don't use a mixer, the what 
you hear option or other software, I mix the whole thing using Gold Wave. 
Once you're used to the interface, and after coming from the old 
WordPerfect Dos days, this interface was a piece of cake for me 
personally, a great deal of precision is possible.

Bruce

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On Tue, 30 May 2006, Rick Harmon wrote:

 I am a novice still and mostly use the keyboard controls to move the
 markers.  I am not real good with percise positioning with the rewind and
 fast forward keys yet.

 Rick


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 - Original Message -
 From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 7:16 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 You're confusing moving the markers witht he arrow/control/shift keys and
 finer adjustments such as moving with fast forward and rewind and direct
 input of start and finish markers by time.

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Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-30 Thread David Tanner
Frankly, I wouldn't want to be without either of them.  I find plenty of uses 
for both, and Studio Recorder.  

- Original Message - 
From: Rick Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


: Oh hey I didn't mean what I said personally about you I just meant in 
: general the SF people have been tending to give gw a bad rap.  I just think 
: they both have  different purposes for different people.  But I would like 
: to someday be able to give SF a try.
: 
: Rick
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: - Original Message - 
: From: Curtis Delzer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
: Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 7:05 PM
: Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
: 
: 
: Hey man I dig GW for a lot of reasons, just the editing is different
: and not really intuitive, every keystroke has to be learned rather
: than incoporated from another program like word or a text editor. If
: GW did that rather than what they do, (rather than the $200 for sr or
: $225 for SF and NR,) I'd be using it exclusively and totally!
: 
: 
: 
: Curtis Delzer
: 
: 
: 
: 
: At 03:36 PM 5/30/2006, you wrote:
: Hi,
: 
: Yeah I am sure you are right and I would like to use SF but I just don't
: have $225 for it and I could afford the $50 for GW.   I guess that all I am
: trying to say is don't give gw such a bad rap, its quite good for the money
: and I am sure that SF is probably much better in many ways to gw.
: 
: Rick
: 
: ===
: 
: Contact Information:
: 
: Skype ID: rharmon928
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: 
: 
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: seeing people towards them.
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: 
: 
: 
: - Original Message -
: From: Curtis Delzer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
: Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 6:22 PM
: Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
: 
: 
: There are many times I wish to do better than 1 one hundredth of a
: second, particularly when it comes to clicks, pops, etc which sf and
: sr do much better with scrubbing, where you can tell, audibly, where
: it is you're editing, and how it will sound after you're done.
: 
: 
: Curtis Delzer
: 
: 
: 
: 
: At 08:53 AM 5/25/2006, you wrote:
:  It took me a bit to figure it out but once you get the hang of it its not
:  hard to do with goldwave.  I am interested in Sf as well just don't have
:  the
:  money to spend on it.  I do feel for the money goldwave is the best 
:  editor.
:  
:  Rick
:  
:  
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:  
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:  
:  
:  
:  - Original Message -
:  From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
:  Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 11:48 AM
:  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
:  
:  
:  This does sound like great editing capability!
:  - Original Message -
:  From: Rick Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
:  Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 11:12 AM
:  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
:  
:  
:Hi Gary,
:   
:I can edit down to 1/100th of a second in goldwave.  How much more 
:could
:you
:need?
:   
:Rick
:   
:   
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:seeing people towards them.
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:   
:   
:   
:- Original Message -
:From: Gary Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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:Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 10:42 AM
:Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
:   
:   
:the only thing I wish that goldwave could do is to be a more precise 
:or
:finer editor. you can't beat soundforges editing capabilities at any
:price

Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-30 Thread David Tanner
It works grea so long as you get the perameters set right for the file you are 
working on at the time.  Just remember that you can't always assume that the 
default settings are going to work.  It is really great to use that and file 
split together so long as you make sure to check that you didn't get a break in 
the middle of a song because there was a pause long enough for Goldwave to 
think it was a break.  I usually extend the amount of time for silence for just 
that reason.

- Original Message - 
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Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 6:22 PM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


: Never had it have a problem.
: 
: - Original Message - 
: From: Jerry Richer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
: Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 3:45 AM
: Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
: 
: 
:  That q thing doesn't work so well for me all the time.  What do you
:  know, it's working right now.
:  Thanks.
: 
:Jerry
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Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-30 Thread David Tanner
Man you must be old.  You actually used DOS!!!

Sorry, I just couldn't resist!!! (SMILE)



- Original Message - 
From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


: You'll find that it's a realy powerful way to get precision, especially 
: given that you can slow rewind and fast forward to slower than normal 
: speeds. I do all of my radio shows with GW: I don't use a mixer, the what 
: you hear option or other software, I mix the whole thing using Gold Wave. 
: Once you're used to the interface, and after coming from the old 
: WordPerfect Dos days, this interface was a piece of cake for me 
: personally, a great deal of precision is possible.
: 
: Bruce
: 
: -- 
: Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
: gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
: 
: Bruce Toews
: E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net
: Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net
: Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
: 
: On Tue, 30 May 2006, Rick Harmon wrote:
: 
:  I am a novice still and mostly use the keyboard controls to move the
:  markers.  I am not real good with percise positioning with the rewind and
:  fast forward keys yet.
: 
:  Rick
: 
: 
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Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-30 Thread the mighty spork
I'm 28, and I used dos.  I am not old thank you very much lol.

Rick

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 Man you must be old.  You actually used DOS!!!

 Sorry, I just couldn't resist!!! (SMILE)



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 : You'll find that it's a realy powerful way to get precision, especially
 : given that you can slow rewind and fast forward to slower than normal
 : speeds. I do all of my radio shows with GW: I don't use a mixer, the 
 what
 : you hear option or other software, I mix the whole thing using Gold 
 Wave.
 : Once you're used to the interface, and after coming from the old
 : WordPerfect Dos days, this interface was a piece of cake for me
 : personally, a great deal of precision is possible.
 :
 : Bruce
 :
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 :
 :  I am a novice still and mostly use the keyboard controls to move the
 :  markers.  I am not real good with percise positioning with the rewind 
 and
 :  fast forward keys yet.
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Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-30 Thread Bruce Toews
They didn't have Windows XP in 1988, you see.

bruce

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On Tue, 30 May 2006, David Tanner wrote:

 Man you must be old.  You actually used DOS!!!

 Sorry, I just couldn't resist!!! (SMILE)



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 : You'll find that it's a realy powerful way to get precision, especially
 : given that you can slow rewind and fast forward to slower than normal
 : speeds. I do all of my radio shows with GW: I don't use a mixer, the what
 : you hear option or other software, I mix the whole thing using Gold Wave.
 : Once you're used to the interface, and after coming from the old
 : WordPerfect Dos days, this interface was a piece of cake for me
 : personally, a great deal of precision is possible.
 :
 : Bruce
 :
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 : gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
 :
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 :
 : On Tue, 30 May 2006, Rick Harmon wrote:
 :
 :  I am a novice still and mostly use the keyboard controls to move the
 :  markers.  I am not real good with percise positioning with the rewind and
 :  fast forward keys yet.
 : 
 :  Rick
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 :  You're confusing moving the markers witht he arrow/control/shift keys and
 :  finer adjustments such as moving with fast forward and rewind and direct
 :  input of start and finish markers by time.
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Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-30 Thread Bruce Toews
Actualy I'm not all that old. You see, when I was born, my parents didn't 
like noise. So instead of crying, I had to type waa, underlined and 
boldfaced, in WordPerfect, print it out, and hand it to my mother.

Bruce

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On Tue, 30 May 2006, David Tanner wrote:

 Man you must be old.  You actually used DOS!!!

 Sorry, I just couldn't resist!!! (SMILE)



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 From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 6:33 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 : You'll find that it's a realy powerful way to get precision, especially
 : given that you can slow rewind and fast forward to slower than normal
 : speeds. I do all of my radio shows with GW: I don't use a mixer, the what
 : you hear option or other software, I mix the whole thing using Gold Wave.
 : Once you're used to the interface, and after coming from the old
 : WordPerfect Dos days, this interface was a piece of cake for me
 : personally, a great deal of precision is possible.
 :
 : Bruce
 :
 : --
 : Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
 : gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
 :
 : Bruce Toews
 : E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 : Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net
 : Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net
 : Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
 :
 : On Tue, 30 May 2006, Rick Harmon wrote:
 :
 :  I am a novice still and mostly use the keyboard controls to move the
 :  markers.  I am not real good with percise positioning with the rewind and
 :  fast forward keys yet.
 : 
 :  Rick
 : 
 : 
 :  ===
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 : 
 :  Skype ID: rharmon928
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 : 
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 :  From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 7:16 PM
 :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
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 : 
 :  You're confusing moving the markers witht he arrow/control/shift keys and
 :  finer adjustments such as moving with fast forward and rewind and direct
 :  input of start and finish markers by time.
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Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-30 Thread Doc
someone earlier mentioned that sf v5 had scripts available.  Where can I
find an copy of sf v5.0 to play with?
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Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


Frankly, I wouldn't want to be without either of them.  I find plenty of
uses for both, and Studio Recorder.

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: Oh hey I didn't mean what I said personally about you I just meant in
: general the SF people have been tending to give gw a bad rap.  I just
think
: they both have  different purposes for different people.  But I would like
: to someday be able to give SF a try.
:
: Rick
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:
: - Original Message -
: From: Curtis Delzer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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: Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 7:05 PM
: Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
:
:
: Hey man I dig GW for a lot of reasons, just the editing is different
: and not really intuitive, every keystroke has to be learned rather
: than incoporated from another program like word or a text editor. If
: GW did that rather than what they do, (rather than the $200 for sr or
: $225 for SF and NR,) I'd be using it exclusively and totally!
:
:
:
: Curtis Delzer
:
:
:
:
: At 03:36 PM 5/30/2006, you wrote:
: Hi,
: 
: Yeah I am sure you are right and I would like to use SF but I just don't
: have $225 for it and I could afford the $50 for GW.   I guess that all I
am
: trying to say is don't give gw such a bad rap, its quite good for the
money
: and I am sure that SF is probably much better in many ways to gw.
: 
: Rick
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: seeing people towards them.
: - Helen Keller, 1925
: 
: 
: 
: - Original Message -
: From: Curtis Delzer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
: Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 6:22 PM
: Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
: 
: 
: There are many times I wish to do better than 1 one hundredth of a
: second, particularly when it comes to clicks, pops, etc which sf and
: sr do much better with scrubbing, where you can tell, audibly, where
: it is you're editing, and how it will sound after you're done.
: 
: 
: Curtis Delzer
: 
: 
: 
: 
: At 08:53 AM 5/25/2006, you wrote:
:  It took me a bit to figure it out but once you get the hang of it its
not
:  hard to do with goldwave.  I am interested in Sf as well just don't
have
:  the
:  money to spend on it.  I do feel for the money goldwave is the best
:  editor.
:  
:  Rick
:  
:  
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:  
:  
:  The chief handicap of the blind is not blindness, but the attitude of
:  seeing people towards them.
:  - Helen Keller, 1925
:  
:  
:  
:  - Original Message -
:  From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
:  Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 11:48 AM
:  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
:  
:  
:  This does sound like great editing capability!
:  - Original Message -
:  From: Rick Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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:  Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 11:12 AM
:  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
:  
:  
:Hi Gary,
:   
:I can edit down to 1/100th of a second in goldwave.  How much more
:could
:you
:need?
:   
:Rick
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:   
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:seeing people towards them.
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:   
:   
:   
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Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-30 Thread the mighty spork
now was that wordperfect 4.2?  At least you didn't have to type w wa 
out in edlin.

Rick
- Original Message - 
From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 12:37 AM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 Actualy I'm not all that old. You see, when I was born, my parents didn't
 like noise. So instead of crying, I had to type waa, underlined and
 boldfaced, in WordPerfect, print it out, and hand it to my mother.

 Bruce

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 gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV

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 On Tue, 30 May 2006, David Tanner wrote:

 Man you must be old.  You actually used DOS!!!

 Sorry, I just couldn't resist!!! (SMILE)



 - Original Message -
 From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 6:33 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 : You'll find that it's a realy powerful way to get precision, especially
 : given that you can slow rewind and fast forward to slower than normal
 : speeds. I do all of my radio shows with GW: I don't use a mixer, the 
 what
 : you hear option or other software, I mix the whole thing using Gold 
 Wave.
 : Once you're used to the interface, and after coming from the old
 : WordPerfect Dos days, this interface was a piece of cake for me
 : personally, a great deal of precision is possible.
 :
 : Bruce
 :
 : --
 : Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
 : gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
 :
 : Bruce Toews
 : E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 : Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net
 : Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): 
 http://www.ogts.net
 : Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
 :
 : On Tue, 30 May 2006, Rick Harmon wrote:
 :
 :  I am a novice still and mostly use the keyboard controls to move the
 :  markers.  I am not real good with percise positioning with the rewind 
 and
 :  fast forward keys yet.
 : 
 :  Rick
 : 
 : 
 :  ===
 : 
 :  Contact Information:
 : 
 :  Skype ID: rharmon928
 :  MSN ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  Phone: 330-724-6093
 :  Location: Akron, Ohio USA
 : 
 :  Visit my new mailing list on www.freelists.org
 : 
 :  blind_geek_zone
 : 
 : 
 :  The chief handicap of the blind is not blindness, but the attitude 
 of
 :  seeing people towards them.
 :  - Helen Keller, 1925
 : 
 : 
 : 
 :  - Original Message -
 :  From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 7:16 PM
 :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 : 
 : 
 :  You're confusing moving the markers witht he arrow/control/shift keys 
 and
 :  finer adjustments such as moving with fast forward and rewind and 
 direct
 :  input of start and finish markers by time.
 : 
 :  Bruce
 : 
 : 
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Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-30 Thread Curtis Delzer
the sf5 scripts come with versions of jfw 5 and later, dunno about 
jfw 6 or 7, which work well with sf5. I don't know if you can get 
anything like a registered version of sf5 though I have one, which 
would work for you as I demo I believe, not sure.



Curtis Delzer




At 09:58 PM 5/30/2006, you wrote:
someone earlier mentioned that sf v5 had scripts available.  Where can I
find an copy of sf v5.0 to play with?
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Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 10:16 PM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


Frankly, I wouldn't want to be without either of them.  I find plenty of
uses for both, and Studio Recorder.

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: Oh hey I didn't mean what I said personally about you I just meant in
: general the SF people have been tending to give gw a bad rap.  I just
think
: they both have  different purposes for different people.  But I would like
: to someday be able to give SF a try.
:
: Rick
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: - Original Message -
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: Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
:
:
: Hey man I dig GW for a lot of reasons, just the editing is different
: and not really intuitive, every keystroke has to be learned rather
: than incoporated from another program like word or a text editor. If
: GW did that rather than what they do, (rather than the $200 for sr or
: $225 for SF and NR,) I'd be using it exclusively and totally!
:
:
:
: Curtis Delzer
:
:
:
:
: At 03:36 PM 5/30/2006, you wrote:
: Hi,
: 
: Yeah I am sure you are right and I would like to use SF but I just don't
: have $225 for it and I could afford the $50 for GW.   I guess that all I
am
: trying to say is don't give gw such a bad rap, its quite good for the
money
: and I am sure that SF is probably much better in many ways to gw.
: 
: Rick
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: 
: - Original Message -
: From: Curtis Delzer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
: Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 6:22 PM
: Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
: 
: 
: There are many times I wish to do better than 1 one hundredth of a
: second, particularly when it comes to clicks, pops, etc which sf and
: sr do much better with scrubbing, where you can tell, audibly, where
: it is you're editing, and how it will sound after you're done.
: 
: 
: Curtis Delzer
: 
: 
: 
: 
: At 08:53 AM 5/25/2006, you wrote:
:  It took me a bit to figure it out but once you get the hang of it its
not
:  hard to do with goldwave.  I am interested in Sf as well just don't
have
:  the
:  money to spend on it.  I do feel for the money goldwave is the best
:  editor.
:  
:  Rick
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:  From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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:  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
:  
:  
:  This does sound like great editing capability!
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:  Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 11:12 AM
:  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
:  
:  
:Hi Gary,
:   
:I can edit down to 1/100th of a second in goldwave.  How much more
:could
:you
:need?
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Re[2]: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-30 Thread Patrick Perdue
Hello the,

On Wednesday, May 31, 2006, 12:28:50 AM, you bellowed the following:
 I'm 28, and I used dos.  I am not old thank you very much lol.


Likewise, I am 22 and used Dos.
Actually, I started out using a Mac 2SI (16 MHZ processor, 4 MB ram and
a 40 MB hard drive). Despite these specs, in 1992, it was able to run
software speech and play other sounds at the same time.
I then later moved to Dos on a 386 DX25 with a hard drive so old that
you still had to type park before shutting the machine down. Yay for
drives with no auto-parking!




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Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-28 Thread Gary Petraccaro
If I understand what you mean, you don't need it in 6, either.  However, you 
do have to set cue to on.

- Original Message - 
From: Jerry Richer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 Daveed!  If scrubbing in Sound Forge is important to you for your work
 then you probably should upgrade to 8.0.  You don't need scripts to scrub 
 in
 8.0.

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Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-28 Thread Gary Petraccaro
Doesn't prove anything except that you can't use it to do what you want. 
You need more of a sample than that.

- Original Message - 
From: Brent Harding [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 Yeah, I used it a few times on some TV audio I record with my tuner, it 
 sort
 of adds an under water  sound to things.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 9:16 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


I agree with your assessment. the  noise reduction in goldwave does a 
lousy
 job when you use noise from the clipboard.
 - Original Message - 
 From: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 12:08 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 Maybe a better way of saying it is to say that in my opinion I do not
 feel
 that I can get as polished a finished product with Goldwave as I can 
 with
 SoundForge without a lot more work, and a whole lot less flexability.
 And, the Goldwave noise reduction that is built-in is no place as good 
 as
 the noise reduction in SoundForge.



 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 9:12 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 :I think you can get good broadcast quality from goldwave, but the
 program
 is
 : awkward to work with when you are in a hurry.
 :
 : - Original Message - 
 : From: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 : To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 : Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:07 AM
 : Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 :
 :
 : I guess I wouldn't be as concerned about how small a piece as I am
 things
 : like the equalizer, noise reduction, click and crackle features,
 : compression, and mixing choices.  But, that doesn't mean that my 
 needs
 are
 : the same as everybody else on this list.  So, at the very least a
 person
 : should be compairing Goldwave to at least one other sound editor in a
 price
 : range that they can afford.  And, I would be willing to bet that
 Goldwave
 : will be fine for 80 percent or more of persons who are not concerned
 with
 : getting broadcast quality for every file they edit.
 : 
 : 
 : 
 :  - Original Message - 
 :  From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 12:59 PM
 :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 : 
 : 
 :  : With GW you can edit to within a thousandth of a second or finer.
 How
 :  much
 :  : finer do you want than that?
 :  :
 :  : Bruce
 :  :
 :  : -- 
 :  : Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
 :  : gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
 :  :
 :  : Bruce Toews
 :  : E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  : Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net
 :  : Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
 http://www.ogts.net
 :  : Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
 :  :
 :  : On Thu, 25 May 2006, Gary Schindler wrote:
 :  :
 :  :  the only thing I wish that goldwave could do is to be a more
 precise
 :  or
 :  :  finer editor. you can't beat soundforges editing capabilities at
 any
 :  price.
 :  : 
 :  :  - Original Message -
 :  :  From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  :  Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:29 AM
 :  :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 :  : 
 :  : 
 :  :  Some people say, You get what you pay for!  But actually, you
 have
 :  to
 :  :  take
 :  :  a lot of things into consideration when purchasing a sound
 editor!
 :  What
 :  :  features and abilities you want with a sound editor, and also,
 what
 :  you
 :  :  can
 :  :  afford!
 :  :  - Original Message -
 :  :  From: Brian Olesen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  :  Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 3:42 PM
 :  :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 :  : 
 :  : 
 :  :  HI,
 :  :  But it's also pretty expensive.
 :  : 
 :  :  Best regards
 :  :  Brian
 :  :  - Original Message -
 :  :  From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  :  Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:38 PM
 :  :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 :  : 
 :  : 
 :  :  I think that from what I've heard so far, that Studio 
 Recorder
 from
 :  APH
 :  :  is
 :  :  also quite a program!
 :  :  - Original Message -
 :  :  From: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  :  Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 12:59 AM
 :  :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 :  : 
 :  : 
 :  :  I think

Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-28 Thread Rick Harmon
Hi,

The under water sound you here is because you set the level of noise 
reduction at too high a level.

Rick


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- Original Message - 
From: Gary Petraccaro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


Doesn't prove anything except that you can't use it to do what you want.
You need more of a sample than that.

- Original Message - 
From: Brent Harding [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 Yeah, I used it a few times on some TV audio I record with my tuner, it
 sort
 of adds an under water  sound to things.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 9:16 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


I agree with your assessment. the  noise reduction in goldwave does a
lousy
 job when you use noise from the clipboard.
 - Original Message - 
 From: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 12:08 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 Maybe a better way of saying it is to say that in my opinion I do not
 feel
 that I can get as polished a finished product with Goldwave as I can
 with
 SoundForge without a lot more work, and a whole lot less flexability.
 And, the Goldwave noise reduction that is built-in is no place as good
 as
 the noise reduction in SoundForge.



 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 9:12 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 :I think you can get good broadcast quality from goldwave, but the
 program
 is
 : awkward to work with when you are in a hurry.
 :
 : - Original Message - 
 : From: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 : To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 : Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:07 AM
 : Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 :
 :
 : I guess I wouldn't be as concerned about how small a piece as I am
 things
 : like the equalizer, noise reduction, click and crackle features,
 : compression, and mixing choices.  But, that doesn't mean that my
 needs
 are
 : the same as everybody else on this list.  So, at the very least a
 person
 : should be compairing Goldwave to at least one other sound editor in a
 price
 : range that they can afford.  And, I would be willing to bet that
 Goldwave
 : will be fine for 80 percent or more of persons who are not concerned
 with
 : getting broadcast quality for every file they edit.
 : 
 : 
 : 
 :  - Original Message - 
 :  From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 12:59 PM
 :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 : 
 : 
 :  : With GW you can edit to within a thousandth of a second or finer.
 How
 :  much
 :  : finer do you want than that?
 :  :
 :  : Bruce
 :  :
 :  : -- 
 :  : Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
 :  : gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
 :  :
 :  : Bruce Toews
 :  : E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  : Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net
 :  : Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
 http://www.ogts.net
 :  : Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
 :  :
 :  : On Thu, 25 May 2006, Gary Schindler wrote:
 :  :
 :  :  the only thing I wish that goldwave could do is to be a more
 precise
 :  or
 :  :  finer editor. you can't beat soundforges editing capabilities at
 any
 :  price.
 :  : 
 :  :  - Original Message -
 :  :  From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  :  Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:29 AM
 :  :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 :  : 
 :  : 
 :  :  Some people say, You get what you pay for!  But actually, you
 have
 :  to
 :  :  take
 :  :  a lot of things into consideration when purchasing a sound
 editor!
 :  What
 :  :  features and abilities you want with a sound editor, and also,
 what
 :  you
 :  :  can
 :  :  afford!
 :  :  - Original Message -
 :  :  From: Brian Olesen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  :  Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 3:42 PM
 :  :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 :  : 
 :  : 
 :  :  HI,
 :  :  But it's also pretty expensive.
 :  : 
 :  :  Best regards

Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-28 Thread Gary Petraccaro
Or because it was a form of square wave which cannot be handled by noise 
reduction.

- Original Message - 
From: Rick Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 2:07 PM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 Hi,

 The under water sound you here is because you set the level of noise
 reduction at too high a level.

 Rick


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 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Petraccaro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 1:59 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 Doesn't prove anything except that you can't use it to do what you want.
 You need more of a sample than that.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Brent Harding [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 11:00 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 Yeah, I used it a few times on some TV audio I record with my tuner, it
 sort
 of adds an under water  sound to things.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 9:16 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


I agree with your assessment. the  noise reduction in goldwave does a
lousy
 job when you use noise from the clipboard.
 - Original Message - 
 From: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 12:08 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 Maybe a better way of saying it is to say that in my opinion I do not
 feel
 that I can get as polished a finished product with Goldwave as I can
 with
 SoundForge without a lot more work, and a whole lot less flexability.
 And, the Goldwave noise reduction that is built-in is no place as good
 as
 the noise reduction in SoundForge.



 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 9:12 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 :I think you can get good broadcast quality from goldwave, but the
 program
 is
 : awkward to work with when you are in a hurry.
 :
 : - Original Message - 
 : From: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 : To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 : Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:07 AM
 : Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 :
 :
 : I guess I wouldn't be as concerned about how small a piece as I am
 things
 : like the equalizer, noise reduction, click and crackle features,
 : compression, and mixing choices.  But, that doesn't mean that my
 needs
 are
 : the same as everybody else on this list.  So, at the very least a
 person
 : should be compairing Goldwave to at least one other sound editor in 
 a
 price
 : range that they can afford.  And, I would be willing to bet that
 Goldwave
 : will be fine for 80 percent or more of persons who are not concerned
 with
 : getting broadcast quality for every file they edit.
 : 
 : 
 : 
 :  - Original Message - 
 :  From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 12:59 PM
 :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 : 
 : 
 :  : With GW you can edit to within a thousandth of a second or finer.
 How
 :  much
 :  : finer do you want than that?
 :  :
 :  : Bruce
 :  :
 :  : -- 
 :  : Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, 
 he
 :  : gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
 :  :
 :  : Bruce Toews
 :  : E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  : Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net
 :  : Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
 http://www.ogts.net
 :  : Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
 :  :
 :  : On Thu, 25 May 2006, Gary Schindler wrote:
 :  :
 :  :  the only thing I wish that goldwave could do is to be a more
 precise
 :  or
 :  :  finer editor. you can't beat soundforges editing capabilities 
 at
 any
 :  price.
 :  : 
 :  :  - Original Message -
 :  :  From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  :  Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:29 AM
 :  :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 :  : 
 :  : 
 :  :  Some people say, You get what you pay for!  But actually, 
 you
 have
 :  to
 :  :  take
 :  :  a lot of things into consideration when purchasing a sound
 editor!
 :  What
 :  :  features and abilities you want with a sound editor, and also,
 what
 :  you
 :  :  can
 :  :  afford

Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-27 Thread Gary Schindler
I agree with your assessment. the  noise reduction in goldwave does a lousy 
job when you use noise from the clipboard.
- Original Message - 
From: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 12:08 AM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 Maybe a better way of saying it is to say that in my opinion I do not feel 
 that I can get as polished a finished product with Goldwave as I can with 
 SoundForge without a lot more work, and a whole lot less flexability. 
 And, the Goldwave noise reduction that is built-in is no place as good as 
 the noise reduction in SoundForge.



 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 9:12 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 :I think you can get good broadcast quality from goldwave, but the program 
 is
 : awkward to work with when you are in a hurry.
 :
 : - Original Message - 
 : From: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 : To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 : Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:07 AM
 : Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 :
 :
 : I guess I wouldn't be as concerned about how small a piece as I am 
 things
 : like the equalizer, noise reduction, click and crackle features,
 : compression, and mixing choices.  But, that doesn't mean that my needs 
 are
 : the same as everybody else on this list.  So, at the very least a 
 person
 : should be compairing Goldwave to at least one other sound editor in a 
 price
 : range that they can afford.  And, I would be willing to bet that 
 Goldwave
 : will be fine for 80 percent or more of persons who are not concerned 
 with
 : getting broadcast quality for every file they edit.
 : 
 : 
 : 
 :  - Original Message - 
 :  From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 12:59 PM
 :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 : 
 : 
 :  : With GW you can edit to within a thousandth of a second or finer. 
 How
 :  much
 :  : finer do you want than that?
 :  :
 :  : Bruce
 :  :
 :  : -- 
 :  : Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
 :  : gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
 :  :
 :  : Bruce Toews
 :  : E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  : Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net
 :  : Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): 
 http://www.ogts.net
 :  : Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
 :  :
 :  : On Thu, 25 May 2006, Gary Schindler wrote:
 :  :
 :  :  the only thing I wish that goldwave could do is to be a more 
 precise
 :  or
 :  :  finer editor. you can't beat soundforges editing capabilities at 
 any
 :  price.
 :  : 
 :  :  - Original Message -
 :  :  From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  :  Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:29 AM
 :  :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 :  : 
 :  : 
 :  :  Some people say, You get what you pay for!  But actually, you 
 have
 :  to
 :  :  take
 :  :  a lot of things into consideration when purchasing a sound 
 editor!
 :  What
 :  :  features and abilities you want with a sound editor, and also, 
 what
 :  you
 :  :  can
 :  :  afford!
 :  :  - Original Message -
 :  :  From: Brian Olesen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  :  Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 3:42 PM
 :  :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 :  : 
 :  : 
 :  :  HI,
 :  :  But it's also pretty expensive.
 :  : 
 :  :  Best regards
 :  :  Brian
 :  :  - Original Message -
 :  :  From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  :  Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:38 PM
 :  :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 :  : 
 :  : 
 :  :  I think that from what I've heard so far, that Studio Recorder 
 from
 :  APH
 :  :  is
 :  :  also quite a program!
 :  :  - Original Message -
 :  :  From: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  :  Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 12:59 AM
 :  :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 :  : 
 :  : 
 :  :  I think that the individual needs to take a look at each, 
 decide
 :  what
 :  :  they
 :  :  really need to do, and after all that then make the decision 
 on
 :  how much
 :  :  they are willing to pay to get the editor that will do what 
 they
 :  need to
 :  :  do.  I really like SoundForge, but I do a lot of audio for 
 radio
 :  :  programs,
 :  :  etc.  The person simply wanting to get records to MP3 and 
 clean
 :  the
 :  :  files
 :  :  up to make them sound good may decide that they don't need all 
 the
 :  :  features
 :  :  of Soundforge, and that they can good enough quality with 
 Goldwave
 :  or
 :  :  Audasity or something else

Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-27 Thread Brent Harding
Yeah, I used it a few times on some TV audio I record with my tuner, it sort 
of adds an under water  sound to things.

- Original Message - 
From: Gary Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 9:16 AM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


I agree with your assessment. the  noise reduction in goldwave does a lousy
 job when you use noise from the clipboard.
 - Original Message - 
 From: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 12:08 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 Maybe a better way of saying it is to say that in my opinion I do not 
 feel
 that I can get as polished a finished product with Goldwave as I can with
 SoundForge without a lot more work, and a whole lot less flexability.
 And, the Goldwave noise reduction that is built-in is no place as good as
 the noise reduction in SoundForge.



 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 9:12 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 :I think you can get good broadcast quality from goldwave, but the 
 program
 is
 : awkward to work with when you are in a hurry.
 :
 : - Original Message - 
 : From: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 : To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 : Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:07 AM
 : Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 :
 :
 : I guess I wouldn't be as concerned about how small a piece as I am
 things
 : like the equalizer, noise reduction, click and crackle features,
 : compression, and mixing choices.  But, that doesn't mean that my needs
 are
 : the same as everybody else on this list.  So, at the very least a
 person
 : should be compairing Goldwave to at least one other sound editor in a
 price
 : range that they can afford.  And, I would be willing to bet that
 Goldwave
 : will be fine for 80 percent or more of persons who are not concerned
 with
 : getting broadcast quality for every file they edit.
 : 
 : 
 : 
 :  - Original Message - 
 :  From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 12:59 PM
 :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 : 
 : 
 :  : With GW you can edit to within a thousandth of a second or finer.
 How
 :  much
 :  : finer do you want than that?
 :  :
 :  : Bruce
 :  :
 :  : -- 
 :  : Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
 :  : gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
 :  :
 :  : Bruce Toews
 :  : E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  : Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net
 :  : Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
 http://www.ogts.net
 :  : Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
 :  :
 :  : On Thu, 25 May 2006, Gary Schindler wrote:
 :  :
 :  :  the only thing I wish that goldwave could do is to be a more
 precise
 :  or
 :  :  finer editor. you can't beat soundforges editing capabilities at
 any
 :  price.
 :  : 
 :  :  - Original Message -
 :  :  From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  :  Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:29 AM
 :  :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 :  : 
 :  : 
 :  :  Some people say, You get what you pay for!  But actually, you
 have
 :  to
 :  :  take
 :  :  a lot of things into consideration when purchasing a sound
 editor!
 :  What
 :  :  features and abilities you want with a sound editor, and also,
 what
 :  you
 :  :  can
 :  :  afford!
 :  :  - Original Message -
 :  :  From: Brian Olesen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  :  Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 3:42 PM
 :  :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 :  : 
 :  : 
 :  :  HI,
 :  :  But it's also pretty expensive.
 :  : 
 :  :  Best regards
 :  :  Brian
 :  :  - Original Message -
 :  :  From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  :  Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:38 PM
 :  :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 :  : 
 :  : 
 :  :  I think that from what I've heard so far, that Studio Recorder
 from
 :  APH
 :  :  is
 :  :  also quite a program!
 :  :  - Original Message -
 :  :  From: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  :  Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 12:59 AM
 :  :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 :  : 
 :  : 
 :  :  I think that the individual needs to take a look at each,
 decide
 :  what
 :  :  they
 :  :  really need to do, and after all that then make the decision
 on
 :  how much
 :  :  they are willing to pay to get the editor that will do what
 they
 :  need to
 :  :  do.  I really like SoundForge, but I do a lot of audio for
 radio
 :  :  programs

Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-27 Thread Jerry Richer
 Daveed!  If scrubbing in Sound Forge is important to you for your work
then you probably should upgrade to 8.0.  You don't need scripts to scrub in
8.0.

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Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-26 Thread Gary Wood
Thanks for your comments!  Actually, I  got Soundforge about five years ago, 
when there was an offer to get it for about $99.  It didn't take long, and 
after the offer expired, it was supposed to go back to its regular price. 
One of the reasons I purchased it was because I was impressed with the 
review that Jonathan Mosen did on it for a review on Main Menu!
- Original Message - 
From: Samuel Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:55 AM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


I also have a comment to make about Goldwave and Sound Forge which is the
 price. Goldwave costs about 50 to $55 where Sound Forge costs like $430. 
 If
 you are looking for a cheep sound editor that is good, I would suggest
 Goldwave because I think Sound Forge is a big rip-off but that's just me.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 7:50 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


I have the full version!
 - Original Message - 
 From: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 10:49 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 Just one comment that I forgot the other day.  If you are going to
 check-out SoundForge I would strongly suggest testing the full version.
 I
 sincerely think that Goldwave is better than SoundForge's Studio or
 Express version.  Now, some may disagree with that, but the Goldwave
 feature set has a lot more to offer than the low-end SoundForge.



 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 1:04 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 : Well I respect those who use Goldwave, and like it.  Maybe a lot of
 people
 : use it because of it's lower price, but a lot use Soundforge, because
 of
 its
 : effects, and maybe for it's Noisereduction feature.  That works for 
 me!
 : - Original Message - 
 : From: Chuck Adkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 : To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 : Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 4:06 AM
 : Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 :
 :
 :  Hello. I prefer Sound Forge because of the scrubbing features it 
 has.
 I
 :  also
 :  like the effects but don't get me wrong, Gold Wave is a very good
 program.
 :  For me Sound forge is a little bit more accessible. Of course, Sound
 Forge
 :  was the first editor I had experience with and that I think does
 color
 an
 :  oppion sometimes. It's like finding a car though. You can find 6
 people
 :  who
 :  like Fords and 6 people who like shevys. The best way is first, can
 you
 :  afford both programs in question and then second, download and try
 out
 :  each
 :  demo.
 : 
 :  Just my thoughts,
 : 
 :  Chuck
 : 
 :  P.S. I think some of the audio I've produced using the Noise
 Reduction
 :  plugins with Sound Forge seem to have better quality then some of 
 the
 NR
 :  effects I've used with Sound Forge.
 : 
 : 
 :  - Original Message - 
 :  From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 2:15 AM
 :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 : 
 : 
 :  Hi Denny!  I like Soundforge because of all the effects that it 
 has,
 as
 :  well
 :  as really enjoy the noisereduction plug-in, and I also like the
 ability
 :  to
 :  pitch shift with it!
 :  - Original Message - 
 :  From: Denny Daughters [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 1:40 PM
 :  Subject: gold wave vs sound forge
 : 
 : 
 :  Hi guys,
 : Right now I use a basic sound editor called Fast Edit.  I find
 it
 :  useful for doing what I need to get done.  When I bought it about 
 3
 :  years
 :  ago, I wanted something I'd used before and I didn't want to learn
 a
 :  whole
 :  new program.
 : I've looked at goldwave and sure it's much more powerful with
 :  effects,
 :  de-popping records, batch conversion to any formats, that kind of
 thing.
 :  I don't like the editing interface, how you can't hear right where
 that
 :  final bracket drops.  I suppose I can get used to it.  The price 
 of
 gold
 :  wave is tempting, sound forge on the other hand costs more and
 that's
 :  really all I know about it.  What do you all like and or dislike
 about
 :  goldwave and soundforge? Thanks.
 :  Denny
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Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-26 Thread Gary Wood
I think you can probably get Soundforge at a lower price from Chirpingbatt!
- Original Message - 
From: Chuck Adkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 5:30 AM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


I agree. I don't know where that price was obtained but it is WAY WAY WAY
 WAY OFF. I thought I saw it some where for about $250. It all comes down 
 to
 what do you want to do and what can you afford.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Petraccaro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 5:18 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 Nobody paid that much for SF, unless they had money to throw away.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Samuel Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:55 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


I also have a comment to make about Goldwave and Sound Forge which is the
 price. Goldwave costs about 50 to $55 where Sound Forge costs like $430.
 If
 you are looking for a cheep sound editor that is good, I would suggest
 Goldwave because I think Sound Forge is a big rip-off but that's just 
 me.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 7:50 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


I have the full version!
 - Original Message - 
 From: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 10:49 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 Just one comment that I forgot the other day.  If you are going to
 check-out SoundForge I would strongly suggest testing the full 
 version.
 I
 sincerely think that Goldwave is better than SoundForge's Studio or
 Express version.  Now, some may disagree with that, but the Goldwave
 feature set has a lot more to offer than the low-end SoundForge.



 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 1:04 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 : Well I respect those who use Goldwave, and like it.  Maybe a lot of
 people
 : use it because of it's lower price, but a lot use Soundforge, 
 because
 of
 its
 : effects, and maybe for it's Noisereduction feature.  That works for
 me!
 : - Original Message - 
 : From: Chuck Adkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 : To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 : Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 4:06 AM
 : Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 :
 :
 :  Hello. I prefer Sound Forge because of the scrubbing features it
 has.
 I
 :  also
 :  like the effects but don't get me wrong, Gold Wave is a very good
 program.
 :  For me Sound forge is a little bit more accessible. Of course,
 Sound
 Forge
 :  was the first editor I had experience with and that I think does
 color
 an
 :  oppion sometimes. It's like finding a car though. You can find 6
 people
 :  who
 :  like Fords and 6 people who like shevys. The best way is first, 
 can
 you
 :  afford both programs in question and then second, download and try
 out
 :  each
 :  demo.
 : 
 :  Just my thoughts,
 : 
 :  Chuck
 : 
 :  P.S. I think some of the audio I've produced using the Noise
 Reduction
 :  plugins with Sound Forge seem to have better quality then some of
 the
 NR
 :  effects I've used with Sound Forge.
 : 
 : 
 :  - Original Message - 
 :  From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 2:15 AM
 :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 : 
 : 
 :  Hi Denny!  I like Soundforge because of all the effects that it
 has,
 as
 :  well
 :  as really enjoy the noisereduction plug-in, and I also like the
 ability
 :  to
 :  pitch shift with it!
 :  - Original Message - 
 :  From: Denny Daughters [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 1:40 PM
 :  Subject: gold wave vs sound forge
 : 
 : 
 :  Hi guys,
 : Right now I use a basic sound editor called Fast Edit.  I 
 find
 it
 :  useful for doing what I need to get done.  When I bought it 
 about
 3
 :  years
 :  ago, I wanted something I'd used before and I didn't want to
 learn
 a
 :  whole
 :  new program.
 : I've looked at goldwave and sure it's much more powerful with
 :  effects,
 :  de-popping records, batch conversion to any formats, that kind 
 of
 thing.
 :  I don't like the editing interface, how you can't hear right
 where
 that
 :  final bracket drops.  I suppose I can get used to it.  The price
 of
 gold
 :  wave is tempting, sound forge on the other hand costs more and
 that's
 :  really all I know about it.  What do you all like and or dislike
 about
 :  goldwave and soundforge? Thanks.
 :  Denny

Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-26 Thread Chris Skarstad
Well, chiming in here as I've used both, I would definitely have to 
say that my favorite of the 2 is sound forge.  However, I do find 
Goldwave to be effecive if all you need to do is a quick touchup job 
on somehing, or maybe add an efect or something. It all depends on 
what job you wanna do.


At 04:25 PM 5/25/2006, you wrote:
I'd have to respectfully agree with Bruce here.  Goldwave is an excellent
program if you know how to use it correctly.  It not be SF but then again I
am not trying to make money using it either.  A lot of us can't afford $250
for SF and its kind of unfair to paint goldwave the way you have for the
general users out there that are not trying to make a living using it.

Rick


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- Original Message -
From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 5:17 PM
Subject: RE: gold wave vs sound forge


I disagree strongly with your contention that Gold Wave can't be
considered for serious sound editing. It has beenby many, and still is by
many. I do all my audio editing with Gold Wave, and while I'm no
professional recording studio, I'm no slouch at the concept either, and
there are people who are much more professional than I with recording who
will agree. I'm not denying the superiority of Sound Forge as a sound
editor, but if you're comfortable with Gold Wave's interface, as I am,
then the power is there.

bruce

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On Thu, 25 May 2006, Jonathan Mosen wrote:

  Hi all, some interesting points in this thread. From my point of view, if
  you're willing to invest in the tool that gets the job done most
  efficiently, Sound Forge is so far ahead that Goldwave isn't even worth
  your
  consideration. I say this because the reason Sound Forge became the
  leading
  single track editor in the blind community is because of the way in which
  it
  embraces standard Windows navigation and selection methods. So if you're a
  competent user of word processors like MS word, and you understand how to
  select text in regular Windows applications, your learning curve with
  Sound
  Forge is minimised hugely. I would put Studio Recorder way ahead of
  Goldwave
  and in some respects better than Sound Forge for certain tasks. For
  example,
  the sound don sound feature in the latest Studio Recorder is incredibly
  easy
  to use, yet powerful. It also attempts where possible to adhere to Windows
  standards. It's special accessibility features make it worthy of serious
  consideration, particularly if you don't require lots of special affects.
 
  For those constrained by limited time, selecting and manipulating sound in
  Sound Forge or Studio Recorder is vastly more efficient than Goldwave is.
 
  If money is a consideration, I would still recommend Sound Forge's cut
  down
  version because of the superior adherence to Windows conventions, although
  Goldwave is definitely more feature rich than this version of Sound Forge.
  If you're not serious about sound editing and want something to play with,
  maybe Goldwave is sufficient. Sound Forge is used in many professional
  environments for a good reason. It's powerful. Perhaps it provides more
  power than some people need, but really, there's no comparison in terms of
  functionality and ease of use, and you may find yourself gaining more
  experience and find Goldwave constraining. So depending on your needs, I'd
  say Sound Forge and Studio Recorder are in a class of their own. Goldwave
  is
  in a different class.
 
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Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-26 Thread Gary Wood
Hi Jonathan!  That's exactly the reason I decided to go with Soundforge!
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 Hi all, some interesting points in this thread. From my point of view, if
 you're willing to invest in the tool that gets the job done most
 efficiently, Sound Forge is so far ahead that Goldwave isn't even worth 
 your
 consideration. I say this because the reason Sound Forge became the 
 leading
 single track editor in the blind community is because of the way in which 
 it
 embraces standard Windows navigation and selection methods. So if you're a
 competent user of word processors like MS word, and you understand how to
 select text in regular Windows applications, your learning curve with 
 Sound
 Forge is minimised hugely. I would put Studio Recorder way ahead of 
 Goldwave
 and in some respects better than Sound Forge for certain tasks. For 
 example,
 the sound don sound feature in the latest Studio Recorder is incredibly 
 easy
 to use, yet powerful. It also attempts where possible to adhere to Windows
 standards. It's special accessibility features make it worthy of serious
 consideration, particularly if you don't require lots of special affects.

 For those constrained by limited time, selecting and manipulating sound in
 Sound Forge or Studio Recorder is vastly more efficient than Goldwave is.

 If money is a consideration, I would still recommend Sound Forge's cut 
 down
 version because of the superior adherence to Windows conventions, although
 Goldwave is definitely more feature rich than this version of Sound Forge.
 If you're not serious about sound editing and want something to play with,
 maybe Goldwave is sufficient. Sound Forge is used in many professional
 environments for a good reason. It's powerful. Perhaps it provides more
 power than some people need, but really, there's no comparison in terms of
 functionality and ease of use, and you may find yourself gaining more
 experience and find Goldwave constraining. So depending on your needs, I'd
 say Sound Forge and Studio Recorder are in a class of their own. Goldwave 
 is
 in a different class.

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Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-26 Thread Jim Noseworthy
Hi Folks:

Well! This has indeed been an interesting thread.  Perhaps it would be a 
good idea if someone, who is well versed in sound editing, could give a 
side-bi-side comparison, emphasizing the strengths similarities, and 
weaknesses of both editors. This is especially important for those who have 
not yet formed a bias to one or the other programs. In otherwards, let's get 
the facts. I would also recommend that the work be accomplished without the 
use of script or set files as this would most certainly affect the outcome. 
SF has had a lot of work done on Scripts over the years: both free and 
comercial scripts. Now it may be, that one or the other programs is better 
suited for scripting or creating set files. This too is a very important 
item for consideration and certainly may be a factor in determining which 
editor one should purchase. It is, however, important to distinguish between 
the off-the-shelf capabilities of the editor it self as apposed to the 
addition of Script or Set files.

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Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-26 Thread Larry N
I have to agree with Bruce here.  If you're comfortable with it, then it's 
the best software for you. I own both GoldWave and DC6, both of which work 
well with screen readers. I use both professionally and together,they work 
fine for what I need at a lower cost than Sound Forge. . Sound Forge is also 
an excellent program. No argument here. But the thing is that it performs 
tasks that I'll never need, which give it a price tag that does not interst 
me. . I would not suggest a contest between GoldWave and Sound Forge, as I 
respect the merrits of both. Rather I would suggest that consumers approach 
the process as they would any other purchase. Determine your needs, decide 
which software package would best meet them and buy it.  Personally, I don't 
purchase any software that I can't try before buying.  I've been burned 
before and won't be again. My last suggestion would be that anyone 
considering an audio editor might want to think about giving DC6 a try. They 
have a demo that let's you try all aspects of the program before purchasing 
it. You just can't save anything in demo mode.  Jus my 2 cents.

Larry
- Original Message - 
From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 6:16 PM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 No artument there. My argument isn't about the lack of merit of Sound
 Forge. Jonathan was saying that anyone who is at all semi-serious about
 audio editing shouldn't even give Gold Wave a second though, and it is
 with this point that I respectuflly disagree. I've said all along go with
 what you're most comfortable witha dn what works for you.

 Bruce

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 On Thu, 25 May 2006, Mac Norins wrote:

 But, if we are not comfortable with Goldwave and we are comfortable with
 Soundforge, then exploring another new way to go, such as Gold 
 Wave,seems,
 frankly, like an exercise in futility!  Not to extend this thread, by any
 means (groan)!

 -Mac-
 - Original Message -
 From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:17 PM
 Subject: RE: gold wave vs sound forge


 I disagree strongly with your contention that Gold Wave can't be
 considered for serious sound editing. It has beenby many, and still is by
 many. I do all my audio editing with Gold Wave, and while I'm no
 professional recording studio, I'm no slouch at the concept either, and
 there are people who are much more professional than I with recording who
 will agree. I'm not denying the superiority of Sound Forge as a sound
 editor, but if you're comfortable with Gold Wave's interface, as I am,
 then the power is there.

 bruce



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Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-26 Thread Gary Schindler
If I recall, DC6 wasn't good enough for editing at all, and if I am going to 
spend $200.00 for an editor, I'll buy Soundforge thank you. I think goldwave 
has in some respects better noise reduction than DC6. all the programs have 
good and bad points respectively.

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Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


I have to agree with Bruce here.  If you're comfortable with it, then it's
 the best software for you. I own both GoldWave and DC6, both of which work
 well with screen readers. I use both professionally and together,they work
 fine for what I need at a lower cost than Sound Forge. . Sound Forge is 
 also
 an excellent program. No argument here. But the thing is that it performs
 tasks that I'll never need, which give it a price tag that does not 
 interst
 me. . I would not suggest a contest between GoldWave and Sound Forge, as I
 respect the merrits of both. Rather I would suggest that consumers 
 approach
 the process as they would any other purchase. Determine your needs, decide
 which software package would best meet them and buy it.  Personally, I 
 don't
 purchase any software that I can't try before buying.  I've been burned
 before and won't be again. My last suggestion would be that anyone
 considering an audio editor might want to think about giving DC6 a try. 
 They
 have a demo that let's you try all aspects of the program before 
 purchasing
 it. You just can't save anything in demo mode.  Jus my 2 cents.

 Larry
 - Original Message - 
 From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 6:16 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 No artument there. My argument isn't about the lack of merit of Sound
 Forge. Jonathan was saying that anyone who is at all semi-serious about
 audio editing shouldn't even give Gold Wave a second though, and it is
 with this point that I respectuflly disagree. I've said all along go with
 what you're most comfortable witha dn what works for you.

 Bruce

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 gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV

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 Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com

 On Thu, 25 May 2006, Mac Norins wrote:

 But, if we are not comfortable with Goldwave and we are comfortable with
 Soundforge, then exploring another new way to go, such as Gold
 Wave,seems,
 frankly, like an exercise in futility!  Not to extend this thread, by 
 any
 means (groan)!

 -Mac-
 - Original Message -
 From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:17 PM
 Subject: RE: gold wave vs sound forge


 I disagree strongly with your contention that Gold Wave can't be
 considered for serious sound editing. It has beenby many, and still is 
 by
 many. I do all my audio editing with Gold Wave, and while I'm no
 professional recording studio, I'm no slouch at the concept either, and
 there are people who are much more professional than I with recording 
 who
 will agree. I'm not denying the superiority of Sound Forge as a sound
 editor, but if you're comfortable with Gold Wave's interface, as I am,
 then the power is there.

 bruce



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Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-26 Thread Larry N
Hi Dennis. You can read about DC6 and access its demo from here.
http://www.diamondcut.com/Catalog/DC6.htm

Larry

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Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 11:07 AM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 whare can i get dc6. i would like to take a look at it.
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 Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 9:49 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


I have to agree with Bruce here.  If you're comfortable with it, then it's
 the best software for you. I own both GoldWave and DC6, both of which 
 work
 well with screen readers. I use both professionally and together,they 
 work
 fine for what I need at a lower cost than Sound Forge. . Sound Forge is
 also
 an excellent program. No argument here. But the thing is that it performs
 tasks that I'll never need, which give it a price tag that does not
 interst
 me. . I would not suggest a contest between GoldWave and Sound Forge, as 
 I
 respect the merrits of both. Rather I would suggest that consumers
 approach
 the process as they would any other purchase. Determine your needs, 
 decide
 which software package would best meet them and buy it.  Personally, I
 don't
 purchase any software that I can't try before buying.  I've been burned
 before and won't be again. My last suggestion would be that anyone
 considering an audio editor might want to think about giving DC6 a try.
 They
 have a demo that let's you try all aspects of the program before
 purchasing
 it. You just can't save anything in demo mode.  Jus my 2 cents.

 Larry
 - Original Message - 
 From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 6:16 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 No artument there. My argument isn't about the lack of merit of Sound
 Forge. Jonathan was saying that anyone who is at all semi-serious about
 audio editing shouldn't even give Gold Wave a second though, and it is
 with this point that I respectuflly disagree. I've said all along go 
 with
 what you're most comfortable witha dn what works for you.

 Bruce

 -- 
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 gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV

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 On Thu, 25 May 2006, Mac Norins wrote:

 But, if we are not comfortable with Goldwave and we are comfortable 
 with
 Soundforge, then exploring another new way to go, such as Gold
 Wave,seems,
 frankly, like an exercise in futility!  Not to extend this thread, by
 any
 means (groan)!

 -Mac-
 - Original Message -
 From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:17 PM
 Subject: RE: gold wave vs sound forge


 I disagree strongly with your contention that Gold Wave can't be
 considered for serious sound editing. It has beenby many, and still is
 by
 many. I do all my audio editing with Gold Wave, and while I'm no
 professional recording studio, I'm no slouch at the concept either, and
 there are people who are much more professional than I with recording
 who
 will agree. I'm not denying the superiority of Sound Forge as a sound
 editor, but if you're comfortable with Gold Wave's interface, as I am,
 then the power is there.

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Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-26 Thread Larry N
If DC6 didn't work for you, then by all means don't use it.  The same 
applies to any software I believe.

Cheers,

Larry

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From: Gary Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 If I recall, DC6 wasn't good enough for editing at all, and if I am going 
 to
 spend $200.00 for an editor, I'll buy Soundforge thank you. I think 
 goldwave
 has in some respects better noise reduction than DC6. all the programs 
 have
 good and bad points respectively.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 10:49 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


I have to agree with Bruce here.  If you're comfortable with it, then it's
 the best software for you. I own both GoldWave and DC6, both of which 
 work
 well with screen readers. I use both professionally and together,they 
 work
 fine for what I need at a lower cost than Sound Forge. . Sound Forge is
 also
 an excellent program. No argument here. But the thing is that it performs
 tasks that I'll never need, which give it a price tag that does not
 interst
 me. . I would not suggest a contest between GoldWave and Sound Forge, as 
 I
 respect the merrits of both. Rather I would suggest that consumers
 approach
 the process as they would any other purchase. Determine your needs, 
 decide
 which software package would best meet them and buy it.  Personally, I
 don't
 purchase any software that I can't try before buying.  I've been burned
 before and won't be again. My last suggestion would be that anyone
 considering an audio editor might want to think about giving DC6 a try.
 They
 have a demo that let's you try all aspects of the program before
 purchasing
 it. You just can't save anything in demo mode.  Jus my 2 cents.

 Larry
 - Original Message - 
 From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 6:16 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 No artument there. My argument isn't about the lack of merit of Sound
 Forge. Jonathan was saying that anyone who is at all semi-serious about
 audio editing shouldn't even give Gold Wave a second though, and it is
 with this point that I respectuflly disagree. I've said all along go 
 with
 what you're most comfortable witha dn what works for you.

 Bruce

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 On Thu, 25 May 2006, Mac Norins wrote:

 But, if we are not comfortable with Goldwave and we are comfortable 
 with
 Soundforge, then exploring another new way to go, such as Gold
 Wave,seems,
 frankly, like an exercise in futility!  Not to extend this thread, by
 any
 means (groan)!

 -Mac-
 - Original Message -
 From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:17 PM
 Subject: RE: gold wave vs sound forge


 I disagree strongly with your contention that Gold Wave can't be
 considered for serious sound editing. It has beenby many, and still is
 by
 many. I do all my audio editing with Gold Wave, and while I'm no
 professional recording studio, I'm no slouch at the concept either, and
 there are people who are much more professional than I with recording
 who
 will agree. I'm not denying the superiority of Sound Forge as a sound
 editor, but if you're comfortable with Gold Wave's interface, as I am,
 then the power is there.

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Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-26 Thread HF
That sounds like an interesting tutorial. Where can you get it?

HF
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Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


i get exilent braudcast quality with goldwave and find it to be just fine
 for working quickly. for example in an hours time i have done 30 imagers
 with sound efects and a few open and closers for football and baseball
 braudcasts for the espn radio station that i work for. there is a totorial
 at for the people in 10 parts that if you get it you will know the ins and
 outs of goldwave and be using it very fast in no time. he uses jaws and no
 scrips are needed.that really sold me on it.
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 From: Gary Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 9:12 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


I think you can get good broadcast quality from goldwave, but the program
is
 awkward to work with when you are in a hurry.

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 Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:07 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


I guess I wouldn't be as concerned about how small a piece as I am things
like the equalizer, noise reduction, click and crackle features,
compression, and mixing choices.  But, that doesn't mean that my needs 
are
the same as everybody else on this list.  So, at the very least a person
should be compairing Goldwave to at least one other sound editor in a
price
range that they can afford.  And, I would be willing to bet that Goldwave
will be fine for 80 percent or more of persons who are not concerned with
getting broadcast quality for every file they edit.



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 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 12:59 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 : With GW you can edit to within a thousandth of a second or finer. How
 much
 : finer do you want than that?
 :
 : Bruce
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 : gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
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 :
 : On Thu, 25 May 2006, Gary Schindler wrote:
 :
 :  the only thing I wish that goldwave could do is to be a more precise
 or
 :  finer editor. you can't beat soundforges editing capabilities at any
 price.
 : 
 :  - Original Message -
 :  From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:29 AM
 :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 : 
 : 
 :  Some people say, You get what you pay for!  But actually, you 
 have
 to
 :  take
 :  a lot of things into consideration when purchasing a sound editor!
 What
 :  features and abilities you want with a sound editor, and also, what
 you
 :  can
 :  afford!
 :  - Original Message -
 :  From: Brian Olesen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 3:42 PM
 :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 : 
 : 
 :  HI,
 :  But it's also pretty expensive.
 : 
 :  Best regards
 :  Brian
 :  - Original Message -
 :  From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:38 PM
 :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 : 
 : 
 :  I think that from what I've heard so far, that Studio Recorder
 from
 APH
 :  is
 :  also quite a program!
 :  - Original Message -
 :  From: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 12:59 AM
 :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 : 
 : 
 :  I think that the individual needs to take a look at each, decide
 what
 :  they
 :  really need to do, and after all that then make the decision on
 how much
 :  they are willing to pay to get the editor that will do what they
 need to
 :  do.  I really like SoundForge, but I do a lot of audio for radio
 :  programs,
 :  etc.  The person simply wanting to get records to MP3 and clean
 the
 :  files
 :  up to make them sound good may decide that they don't need all
 the
 :  features
 :  of Soundforge, and that they can good enough quality with
 Goldwave
 or
 :  Audasity or something else.
 : 
 : 
 : 
 :  - Original Message -
 :  From: Chuck Adkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 3:06 AM
 :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 : 
 : 
 :  : Hello. I prefer Sound Forge because

Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-26 Thread dennis
for the people. in the galaxy of stars. a guy who calls himself startbutton 
did it. its in 10 parts.
- Original Message - 
From: HF [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 That sounds like an interesting tutorial. Where can you get it?

 HF
 - Original Message - 
 From: dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 10:33 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


i get exilent braudcast quality with goldwave and find it to be just fine
 for working quickly. for example in an hours time i have done 30 imagers
 with sound efects and a few open and closers for football and baseball
 braudcasts for the espn radio station that i work for. there is a 
 totorial
 at for the people in 10 parts that if you get it you will know the ins 
 and
 outs of goldwave and be using it very fast in no time. he uses jaws and 
 no
 scrips are needed.that really sold me on it.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 9:12 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


I think you can get good broadcast quality from goldwave, but the program
is
 awkward to work with when you are in a hurry.

 - Original Message - 
 From: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:07 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


I guess I wouldn't be as concerned about how small a piece as I am 
things
like the equalizer, noise reduction, click and crackle features,
compression, and mixing choices.  But, that doesn't mean that my needs
are
the same as everybody else on this list.  So, at the very least a person
should be compairing Goldwave to at least one other sound editor in a
price
range that they can afford.  And, I would be willing to bet that 
Goldwave
will be fine for 80 percent or more of persons who are not concerned 
with
getting broadcast quality for every file they edit.



 - Original Message - 
 From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 12:59 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 : With GW you can edit to within a thousandth of a second or finer. How
 much
 : finer do you want than that?
 :
 : Bruce
 :
 : -- 
 : Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
 : gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
 :
 : Bruce Toews
 : E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 : Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net
 : Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
 http://www.ogts.net
 : Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
 :
 : On Thu, 25 May 2006, Gary Schindler wrote:
 :
 :  the only thing I wish that goldwave could do is to be a more 
 precise
 or
 :  finer editor. you can't beat soundforges editing capabilities at 
 any
 price.
 : 
 :  - Original Message -
 :  From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:29 AM
 :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 : 
 : 
 :  Some people say, You get what you pay for!  But actually, you
 have
 to
 :  take
 :  a lot of things into consideration when purchasing a sound editor!
 What
 :  features and abilities you want with a sound editor, and also, 
 what
 you
 :  can
 :  afford!
 :  - Original Message -
 :  From: Brian Olesen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 3:42 PM
 :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 : 
 : 
 :  HI,
 :  But it's also pretty expensive.
 : 
 :  Best regards
 :  Brian
 :  - Original Message -
 :  From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:38 PM
 :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 : 
 : 
 :  I think that from what I've heard so far, that Studio Recorder
 from
 APH
 :  is
 :  also quite a program!
 :  - Original Message -
 :  From: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 12:59 AM
 :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 : 
 : 
 :  I think that the individual needs to take a look at each, 
 decide
 what
 :  they
 :  really need to do, and after all that then make the decision on
 how much
 :  they are willing to pay to get the editor that will do what 
 they
 need to
 :  do.  I really like SoundForge, but I do a lot of audio for 
 radio
 :  programs,
 :  etc.  The person simply wanting to get records to MP3 and clean
 the
 :  files
 :  up to make them sound good may decide that they don't need all
 the
 :  features
 :  of Soundforge, and that they can good enough quality with
 Goldwave

Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-26 Thread Rick Harmon
That is a great tutorial.  I learned a lot from it.

I have a 3 part soon to be 4 partgoldwave tutorial  at:

www.blindcooltech.com

Rick


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- Original Message - 
From: dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 1:35 PM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


for the people. in the galaxy of stars. a guy who calls himself startbutton
did it. its in 10 parts.
- Original Message - 
From: HF [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 That sounds like an interesting tutorial. Where can you get it?

 HF
 - Original Message - 
 From: dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 10:33 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


i get exilent braudcast quality with goldwave and find it to be just fine
 for working quickly. for example in an hours time i have done 30 imagers
 with sound efects and a few open and closers for football and baseball
 braudcasts for the espn radio station that i work for. there is a
 totorial
 at for the people in 10 parts that if you get it you will know the ins
 and
 outs of goldwave and be using it very fast in no time. he uses jaws and
 no
 scrips are needed.that really sold me on it.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 9:12 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


I think you can get good broadcast quality from goldwave, but the program
is
 awkward to work with when you are in a hurry.

 - Original Message - 
 From: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:07 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


I guess I wouldn't be as concerned about how small a piece as I am
things
like the equalizer, noise reduction, click and crackle features,
compression, and mixing choices.  But, that doesn't mean that my needs
are
the same as everybody else on this list.  So, at the very least a person
should be compairing Goldwave to at least one other sound editor in a
price
range that they can afford.  And, I would be willing to bet that
Goldwave
will be fine for 80 percent or more of persons who are not concerned
with
getting broadcast quality for every file they edit.



 - Original Message - 
 From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 12:59 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 : With GW you can edit to within a thousandth of a second or finer. How
 much
 : finer do you want than that?
 :
 : Bruce
 :
 : -- 
 : Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
 : gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
 :
 : Bruce Toews
 : E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 : Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net
 : Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
 http://www.ogts.net
 : Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
 :
 : On Thu, 25 May 2006, Gary Schindler wrote:
 :
 :  the only thing I wish that goldwave could do is to be a more
 precise
 or
 :  finer editor. you can't beat soundforges editing capabilities at
 any
 price.
 : 
 :  - Original Message -
 :  From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:29 AM
 :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 : 
 : 
 :  Some people say, You get what you pay for!  But actually, you
 have
 to
 :  take
 :  a lot of things into consideration when purchasing a sound editor!
 What
 :  features and abilities you want with a sound editor, and also,
 what
 you
 :  can
 :  afford!
 :  - Original Message -
 :  From: Brian Olesen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 3:42 PM
 :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 : 
 : 
 :  HI,
 :  But it's also pretty expensive.
 : 
 :  Best regards
 :  Brian
 :  - Original Message -
 :  From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:38 PM
 :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 : 
 : 
 :  I think that from what I've heard so far, that Studio Recorder
 from
 APH
 :  is
 :  also quite a program!
 :  - Original Message -
 :  From: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org

Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-26 Thread dennis
i'm gonna check it out. do you cover anything that startbutton missed on 
his? also i use a multy track recorder called ntrack studio and i use the 
pluggins from it in goldwave and they work great.the efects are better.
- Original Message - 
From: Rick Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 That is a great tutorial.  I learned a lot from it.

 I have a 3 part soon to be 4 partgoldwave tutorial  at:

 www.blindcooltech.com

 Rick


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 - Helen Keller, 1925



 - Original Message - 
 From: dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 1:35 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 for the people. in the galaxy of stars. a guy who calls himself 
 startbutton
 did it. its in 10 parts.
 - Original Message - 
 From: HF [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:24 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 That sounds like an interesting tutorial. Where can you get it?

 HF
 - Original Message - 
 From: dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 10:33 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


i get exilent braudcast quality with goldwave and find it to be just fine
 for working quickly. for example in an hours time i have done 30 imagers
 with sound efects and a few open and closers for football and baseball
 braudcasts for the espn radio station that i work for. there is a
 totorial
 at for the people in 10 parts that if you get it you will know the ins
 and
 outs of goldwave and be using it very fast in no time. he uses jaws and
 no
 scrips are needed.that really sold me on it.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 9:12 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


I think you can get good broadcast quality from goldwave, but the 
program
is
 awkward to work with when you are in a hurry.

 - Original Message - 
 From: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:07 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


I guess I wouldn't be as concerned about how small a piece as I am
things
like the equalizer, noise reduction, click and crackle features,
compression, and mixing choices.  But, that doesn't mean that my needs
are
the same as everybody else on this list.  So, at the very least a 
person
should be compairing Goldwave to at least one other sound editor in a
price
range that they can afford.  And, I would be willing to bet that
Goldwave
will be fine for 80 percent or more of persons who are not concerned
with
getting broadcast quality for every file they edit.



 - Original Message - 
 From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 12:59 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 : With GW you can edit to within a thousandth of a second or finer. 
 How
 much
 : finer do you want than that?
 :
 : Bruce
 :
 : -- 
 : Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
 : gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
 :
 : Bruce Toews
 : E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 : Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net
 : Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
 http://www.ogts.net
 : Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
 :
 : On Thu, 25 May 2006, Gary Schindler wrote:
 :
 :  the only thing I wish that goldwave could do is to be a more
 precise
 or
 :  finer editor. you can't beat soundforges editing capabilities at
 any
 price.
 : 
 :  - Original Message -
 :  From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:29 AM
 :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 : 
 : 
 :  Some people say, You get what you pay for!  But actually, you
 have
 to
 :  take
 :  a lot of things into consideration when purchasing a sound 
 editor!
 What
 :  features and abilities you want with a sound editor, and also,
 what
 you
 :  can
 :  afford!
 :  - Original Message -
 :  From: Brian Olesen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 3:42 PM
 :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 : 
 : 
 :  HI,
 :  But it's also pretty expensive.
 : 
 :  Best regards
 :  Brian

Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-26 Thread Rick Harmon
Hi not really except I go over the scripts a bit on part 2.  The rest goes 
over the basics.

Rick


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- Original Message - 
From: dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


i'm gonna check it out. do you cover anything that startbutton missed on
his? also i use a multy track recorder called ntrack studio and i use the
pluggins from it in goldwave and they work great.the efects are better.
- Original Message - 
From: Rick Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 That is a great tutorial.  I learned a lot from it.

 I have a 3 part soon to be 4 partgoldwave tutorial  at:

 www.blindcooltech.com

 Rick


 ===

 Contact Information:

 Skype ID: rharmon928
 MSN ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Phone: 330-724-6093
 Location: Akron, Ohio USA

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 blind_geek_zone


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 seeing people towards them.
 - Helen Keller, 1925



 - Original Message - 
 From: dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 1:35 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 for the people. in the galaxy of stars. a guy who calls himself
 startbutton
 did it. its in 10 parts.
 - Original Message - 
 From: HF [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:24 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 That sounds like an interesting tutorial. Where can you get it?

 HF
 - Original Message - 
 From: dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 10:33 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


i get exilent braudcast quality with goldwave and find it to be just fine
 for working quickly. for example in an hours time i have done 30 imagers
 with sound efects and a few open and closers for football and baseball
 braudcasts for the espn radio station that i work for. there is a
 totorial
 at for the people in 10 parts that if you get it you will know the ins
 and
 outs of goldwave and be using it very fast in no time. he uses jaws and
 no
 scrips are needed.that really sold me on it.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 9:12 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


I think you can get good broadcast quality from goldwave, but the
program
is
 awkward to work with when you are in a hurry.

 - Original Message - 
 From: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:07 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


I guess I wouldn't be as concerned about how small a piece as I am
things
like the equalizer, noise reduction, click and crackle features,
compression, and mixing choices.  But, that doesn't mean that my needs
are
the same as everybody else on this list.  So, at the very least a
person
should be compairing Goldwave to at least one other sound editor in a
price
range that they can afford.  And, I would be willing to bet that
Goldwave
will be fine for 80 percent or more of persons who are not concerned
with
getting broadcast quality for every file they edit.



 - Original Message - 
 From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 12:59 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 : With GW you can edit to within a thousandth of a second or finer.
 How
 much
 : finer do you want than that?
 :
 : Bruce
 :
 : -- 
 : Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
 : gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
 :
 : Bruce Toews
 : E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 : Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net
 : Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
 http://www.ogts.net
 : Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
 :
 : On Thu, 25 May 2006, Gary Schindler wrote:
 :
 :  the only thing I wish that goldwave could do is to be a more
 precise
 or
 :  finer editor. you can't beat soundforges editing capabilities at
 any
 price.
 : 
 :  - Original Message -
 :  From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:29 AM

Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-26 Thread Mac Norins
You mean, you might update the famous Soundforge tutorials, with a Gold 
wave comparison?  How many years ago was that done (Soundforge, I mean)?

-Mac-
- Original Message - 
From: Jonathan Mosen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:14 PM
Subject: RE: gold wave vs sound forge


Hi all, just in case this thread has created any false impression for
anyone, Sound Forge is not dependent on screen reader configuration. Just as
there are benefits in running the scripts for Goldwave, there are also
benefits in running the scripts or set files for Sound Forge. However I
personally choose not to use them as for me, speed is the key, and I found
the scripts slow things down a little. So you can certainly use Sound Forge
without scripts.

I agree with the side by side comparison idea. I've used and learned both
programs, so may well give that a go at some point to illustrate the
differences.

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RE: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-26 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi mac, Forging Ahead, the Sound Forge tutorial was completed in 2000,
although the basic concepts are the same so it's still relevant. It wouldn't
be an update of that tutorial so much as an evaluation of performance,
functionality, efficiency, consistency with Windows standards and ease of
use. It's certainly not something I'd attempt until I move though. 

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-Original Message-
From: Mac Norins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, 26 May 2006 2:25 p.m.
To: PC audio discussion list. 
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


You mean, you might update the famous Soundforge tutorials, with a Gold 
wave comparison?  How many years ago was that done (Soundforge, I mean)?

-Mac-
- Original Message - 
From: Jonathan Mosen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:14 PM
Subject: RE: gold wave vs sound forge


Hi all, just in case this thread has created any false impression for
anyone, Sound Forge is not dependent on screen reader configuration. Just as
there are benefits in running the scripts for Goldwave, there are also
benefits in running the scripts or set files for Sound Forge. However I
personally choose not to use them as for me, speed is the key, and I found
the scripts slow things down a little. So you can certainly use Sound Forge
without scripts.

I agree with the side by side comparison idea. I've used and learned both
programs, so may well give that a go at some point to illustrate the
differences.

The Minx, the Internet radio station that plays all the great love songs.

http://www.the-minx.com
Jonathan Mosen
Blog, podcast and radio show: http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Ph: +1-925-566-9265.
Mobile/SMS +1-806-252-6671


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Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-26 Thread Mac Norins
Yeah,

I have those tapes; they are golden to me, no pun intended!  I will look 
forward to your evaluations!
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Hi mac, Forging Ahead, the Sound Forge tutorial was completed in 2000,
although the basic concepts are the same so it's still relevant. It wouldn't
be an update of that tutorial so much as an evaluation of performance,
functionality, efficiency, consistency with Windows standards and ease of
use. It's certainly not something I'd attempt until I move though.

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From: Mac Norins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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You mean, you might update the famous Soundforge tutorials, with a Gold
wave comparison?  How many years ago was that done (Soundforge, I mean)?

-Mac-
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Hi all, just in case this thread has created any false impression for
anyone, Sound Forge is not dependent on screen reader configuration. Just as
there are benefits in running the scripts for Goldwave, there are also
benefits in running the scripts or set files for Sound Forge. However I
personally choose not to use them as for me, speed is the key, and I found
the scripts slow things down a little. So you can certainly use Sound Forge
without scripts.

I agree with the side by side comparison idea. I've used and learned both
programs, so may well give that a go at some point to illustrate the
differences.

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Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-26 Thread Gary Wood
By going to for-the-people.com!
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 That sounds like an interesting tutorial. Where can you get it?

 HF
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 Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 10:33 AM
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i get exilent braudcast quality with goldwave and find it to be just fine
 for working quickly. for example in an hours time i have done 30 imagers
 with sound efects and a few open and closers for football and baseball
 braudcasts for the espn radio station that i work for. there is a 
 totorial
 at for the people in 10 parts that if you get it you will know the ins 
 and
 outs of goldwave and be using it very fast in no time. he uses jaws and 
 no
 scrips are needed.that really sold me on it.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 9:12 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


I think you can get good broadcast quality from goldwave, but the program
is
 awkward to work with when you are in a hurry.

 - Original Message - 
 From: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:07 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


I guess I wouldn't be as concerned about how small a piece as I am 
things
like the equalizer, noise reduction, click and crackle features,
compression, and mixing choices.  But, that doesn't mean that my needs
are
the same as everybody else on this list.  So, at the very least a person
should be compairing Goldwave to at least one other sound editor in a
price
range that they can afford.  And, I would be willing to bet that 
Goldwave
will be fine for 80 percent or more of persons who are not concerned 
with
getting broadcast quality for every file they edit.



 - Original Message - 
 From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 12:59 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 : With GW you can edit to within a thousandth of a second or finer. How
 much
 : finer do you want than that?
 :
 : Bruce
 :
 : -- 
 : Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
 : gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
 :
 : Bruce Toews
 : E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 : Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net
 : Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
 http://www.ogts.net
 : Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
 :
 : On Thu, 25 May 2006, Gary Schindler wrote:
 :
 :  the only thing I wish that goldwave could do is to be a more 
 precise
 or
 :  finer editor. you can't beat soundforges editing capabilities at 
 any
 price.
 : 
 :  - Original Message -
 :  From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:29 AM
 :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 : 
 : 
 :  Some people say, You get what you pay for!  But actually, you
 have
 to
 :  take
 :  a lot of things into consideration when purchasing a sound editor!
 What
 :  features and abilities you want with a sound editor, and also, 
 what
 you
 :  can
 :  afford!
 :  - Original Message -
 :  From: Brian Olesen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 3:42 PM
 :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 : 
 : 
 :  HI,
 :  But it's also pretty expensive.
 : 
 :  Best regards
 :  Brian
 :  - Original Message -
 :  From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:38 PM
 :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 : 
 : 
 :  I think that from what I've heard so far, that Studio Recorder
 from
 APH
 :  is
 :  also quite a program!
 :  - Original Message -
 :  From: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 12:59 AM
 :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 : 
 : 
 :  I think that the individual needs to take a look at each, 
 decide
 what
 :  they
 :  really need to do, and after all that then make the decision on
 how much
 :  they are willing to pay to get the editor that will do what 
 they
 need to
 :  do.  I really like SoundForge, but I do a lot of audio for 
 radio
 :  programs,
 :  etc.  The person simply wanting to get records to MP3 and clean
 the
 :  files
 :  up to make them sound good may decide that they don't need all
 the
 :  features
 :  of Soundforge, and that they can good enough quality with
 Goldwave
 or
 :  Audasity or something else.
 : 
 : 
 : 
 :  - Original

Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-26 Thread David Tanner
Maybe a better way of saying it is to say that in my opinion I do not feel that 
I can get as polished a finished product with Goldwave as I can with SoundForge 
without a lot more work, and a whole lot less flexability.  And, the Goldwave 
noise reduction that is built-in is no place as good as the noise reduction in 
SoundForge.



- Original Message - 
From: Gary Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


:I think you can get good broadcast quality from goldwave, but the program is 
: awkward to work with when you are in a hurry.
: 
: - Original Message - 
: From: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
: Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:07 AM
: Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
: 
: 
: I guess I wouldn't be as concerned about how small a piece as I am things 
: like the equalizer, noise reduction, click and crackle features, 
: compression, and mixing choices.  But, that doesn't mean that my needs are 
: the same as everybody else on this list.  So, at the very least a person 
: should be compairing Goldwave to at least one other sound editor in a price 
: range that they can afford.  And, I would be willing to bet that Goldwave 
: will be fine for 80 percent or more of persons who are not concerned with 
: getting broadcast quality for every file they edit.
: 
: 
: 
:  - Original Message - 
:  From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
:  Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 12:59 PM
:  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
: 
: 
:  : With GW you can edit to within a thousandth of a second or finer. How 
:  much
:  : finer do you want than that?
:  :
:  : Bruce
:  :
:  : -- 
:  : Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
:  : gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
:  :
:  : Bruce Toews
:  : E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:  : Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net
:  : Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net
:  : Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
:  :
:  : On Thu, 25 May 2006, Gary Schindler wrote:
:  :
:  :  the only thing I wish that goldwave could do is to be a more precise 
:  or
:  :  finer editor. you can't beat soundforges editing capabilities at any 
:  price.
:  : 
:  :  - Original Message -
:  :  From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:  :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
:  :  Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:29 AM
:  :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
:  : 
:  : 
:  :  Some people say, You get what you pay for!  But actually, you have 
:  to
:  :  take
:  :  a lot of things into consideration when purchasing a sound editor! 
:  What
:  :  features and abilities you want with a sound editor, and also, what 
:  you
:  :  can
:  :  afford!
:  :  - Original Message -
:  :  From: Brian Olesen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:  :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
:  :  Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 3:42 PM
:  :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
:  : 
:  : 
:  :  HI,
:  :  But it's also pretty expensive.
:  : 
:  :  Best regards
:  :  Brian
:  :  - Original Message -
:  :  From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:  :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
:  :  Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:38 PM
:  :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
:  : 
:  : 
:  :  I think that from what I've heard so far, that Studio Recorder from 
:  APH
:  :  is
:  :  also quite a program!
:  :  - Original Message -
:  :  From: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:  :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
:  :  Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 12:59 AM
:  :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
:  : 
:  : 
:  :  I think that the individual needs to take a look at each, decide 
:  what
:  :  they
:  :  really need to do, and after all that then make the decision on 
:  how much
:  :  they are willing to pay to get the editor that will do what they 
:  need to
:  :  do.  I really like SoundForge, but I do a lot of audio for radio
:  :  programs,
:  :  etc.  The person simply wanting to get records to MP3 and clean 
:  the
:  :  files
:  :  up to make them sound good may decide that they don't need all the
:  :  features
:  :  of Soundforge, and that they can good enough quality with Goldwave 
:  or
:  :  Audasity or something else.
:  : 
:  : 
:  : 
:  :  - Original Message -
:  :  From: Chuck Adkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:  :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
:  :  Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 3:06 AM
:  :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
:  : 
:  : 
:  :  : Hello. I prefer Sound Forge because of the scrubbing features it 
:  has.
:  :  I
:  :  also
:  :  : like the effects but don't get me wrong, Gold Wave is a very 
:  good
:  :  program.
:  :  : For me

Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-25 Thread Gary Wood
Some people say, You get what you pay for!  But actually, you have to take 
a lot of things into consideration when purchasing a sound editor!  What 
features and abilities you want with a sound editor, and also, what you can 
afford!
- Original Message - 
From: Brian Olesen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 HI,
 But it's also pretty expensive.

 Best regards
 Brian
 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:38 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


I think that from what I've heard so far, that Studio Recorder from APH is
 also quite a program!
 - Original Message - 
 From: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 12:59 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


I think that the individual needs to take a look at each, decide what 
they
really need to do, and after all that then make the decision on how much
they are willing to pay to get the editor that will do what they need to
do.  I really like SoundForge, but I do a lot of audio for radio 
programs,
etc.  The person simply wanting to get records to MP3 and clean the files
up to make them sound good may decide that they don't need all the
features
of Soundforge, and that they can good enough quality with Goldwave or
Audasity or something else.



 - Original Message - 
 From: Chuck Adkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 3:06 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 : Hello. I prefer Sound Forge because of the scrubbing features it has. 
 I
 also
 : like the effects but don't get me wrong, Gold Wave is a very good
 program.
 : For me Sound forge is a little bit more accessible. Of course, Sound
 Forge
 : was the first editor I had experience with and that I think does color
 an
 : oppion sometimes. It's like finding a car though. You can find 6 
 people
 who
 : like Fords and 6 people who like shevys. The best way is first, can 
 you
 : afford both programs in question and then second, download and try out
 each
 : demo.
 :
 : Just my thoughts,
 :
 : Chuck
 :
 : P.S. I think some of the audio I've produced using the Noise Reduction
 : plugins with Sound Forge seem to have better quality then some of the
 NR
 : effects I've used with Sound Forge.
 :
 :
 : - Original Message - 
 : From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 : To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 : Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 2:15 AM
 : Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 :
 :
 :  Hi Denny!  I like Soundforge because of all the effects that it has,
 as
 :  well
 :  as really enjoy the noisereduction plug-in, and I also like the
 ability to
 :  pitch shift with it!
 :  - Original Message - 
 :  From: Denny Daughters [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 1:40 PM
 :  Subject: gold wave vs sound forge
 : 
 : 
 :  Hi guys,
 : Right now I use a basic sound editor called Fast Edit.  I find 
 it
 :  useful for doing what I need to get done.  When I bought it about 3
 years
 :  ago, I wanted something I'd used before and I didn't want to learn 
 a
 :  whole
 :  new program.
 : I've looked at goldwave and sure it's much more powerful with
 effects,
 :  de-popping records, batch conversion to any formats, that kind of
 thing.
 :  I don't like the editing interface, how you can't hear right where
 that
 :  final bracket drops.  I suppose I can get used to it.  The price of
 gold
 :  wave is tempting, sound forge on the other hand costs more and
 that's
 :  really all I know about it.  What do you all like and or dislike
 about
 :  goldwave and soundforge? Thanks.
 :  Denny
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Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-25 Thread Gary Wood
I have the full version!
- Original Message - 
From: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 10:49 PM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 Just one comment that I forgot the other day.  If you are going to 
 check-out SoundForge I would strongly suggest testing the full version.  I 
 sincerely think that Goldwave is better than SoundForge's Studio or 
 Express version.  Now, some may disagree with that, but the Goldwave 
 feature set has a lot more to offer than the low-end SoundForge.



 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 1:04 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 : Well I respect those who use Goldwave, and like it.  Maybe a lot of 
 people
 : use it because of it's lower price, but a lot use Soundforge, because of 
 its
 : effects, and maybe for it's Noisereduction feature.  That works for me!
 : - Original Message - 
 : From: Chuck Adkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 : To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 : Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 4:06 AM
 : Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 :
 :
 :  Hello. I prefer Sound Forge because of the scrubbing features it has. 
 I
 :  also
 :  like the effects but don't get me wrong, Gold Wave is a very good 
 program.
 :  For me Sound forge is a little bit more accessible. Of course, Sound 
 Forge
 :  was the first editor I had experience with and that I think does color 
 an
 :  oppion sometimes. It's like finding a car though. You can find 6 
 people
 :  who
 :  like Fords and 6 people who like shevys. The best way is first, can 
 you
 :  afford both programs in question and then second, download and try out
 :  each
 :  demo.
 : 
 :  Just my thoughts,
 : 
 :  Chuck
 : 
 :  P.S. I think some of the audio I've produced using the Noise Reduction
 :  plugins with Sound Forge seem to have better quality then some of the 
 NR
 :  effects I've used with Sound Forge.
 : 
 : 
 :  - Original Message - 
 :  From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 2:15 AM
 :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 : 
 : 
 :  Hi Denny!  I like Soundforge because of all the effects that it has, 
 as
 :  well
 :  as really enjoy the noisereduction plug-in, and I also like the 
 ability
 :  to
 :  pitch shift with it!
 :  - Original Message - 
 :  From: Denny Daughters [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 1:40 PM
 :  Subject: gold wave vs sound forge
 : 
 : 
 :  Hi guys,
 : Right now I use a basic sound editor called Fast Edit.  I find it
 :  useful for doing what I need to get done.  When I bought it about 3
 :  years
 :  ago, I wanted something I'd used before and I didn't want to learn a
 :  whole
 :  new program.
 : I've looked at goldwave and sure it's much more powerful with
 :  effects,
 :  de-popping records, batch conversion to any formats, that kind of 
 thing.
 :  I don't like the editing interface, how you can't hear right where 
 that
 :  final bracket drops.  I suppose I can get used to it.  The price of 
 gold
 :  wave is tempting, sound forge on the other hand costs more and 
 that's
 :  really all I know about it.  What do you all like and or dislike 
 about
 :  goldwave and soundforge? Thanks.
 :  Denny
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Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-25 Thread Samuel Wilkins
I also have a comment to make about Goldwave and Sound Forge which is the 
price. Goldwave costs about 50 to $55 where Sound Forge costs like $430. If 
you are looking for a cheep sound editor that is good, I would suggest 
Goldwave because I think Sound Forge is a big rip-off but that's just me.
- Original Message - 
From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 7:50 AM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


I have the full version!
 - Original Message - 
 From: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 10:49 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 Just one comment that I forgot the other day.  If you are going to
 check-out SoundForge I would strongly suggest testing the full version. 
 I
 sincerely think that Goldwave is better than SoundForge's Studio or
 Express version.  Now, some may disagree with that, but the Goldwave
 feature set has a lot more to offer than the low-end SoundForge.



 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 1:04 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 : Well I respect those who use Goldwave, and like it.  Maybe a lot of
 people
 : use it because of it's lower price, but a lot use Soundforge, because 
 of
 its
 : effects, and maybe for it's Noisereduction feature.  That works for me!
 : - Original Message - 
 : From: Chuck Adkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 : To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 : Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 4:06 AM
 : Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 :
 :
 :  Hello. I prefer Sound Forge because of the scrubbing features it has.
 I
 :  also
 :  like the effects but don't get me wrong, Gold Wave is a very good
 program.
 :  For me Sound forge is a little bit more accessible. Of course, Sound
 Forge
 :  was the first editor I had experience with and that I think does 
 color
 an
 :  oppion sometimes. It's like finding a car though. You can find 6
 people
 :  who
 :  like Fords and 6 people who like shevys. The best way is first, can
 you
 :  afford both programs in question and then second, download and try 
 out
 :  each
 :  demo.
 : 
 :  Just my thoughts,
 : 
 :  Chuck
 : 
 :  P.S. I think some of the audio I've produced using the Noise 
 Reduction
 :  plugins with Sound Forge seem to have better quality then some of the
 NR
 :  effects I've used with Sound Forge.
 : 
 : 
 :  - Original Message - 
 :  From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 2:15 AM
 :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 : 
 : 
 :  Hi Denny!  I like Soundforge because of all the effects that it has,
 as
 :  well
 :  as really enjoy the noisereduction plug-in, and I also like the
 ability
 :  to
 :  pitch shift with it!
 :  - Original Message - 
 :  From: Denny Daughters [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 1:40 PM
 :  Subject: gold wave vs sound forge
 : 
 : 
 :  Hi guys,
 : Right now I use a basic sound editor called Fast Edit.  I find 
 it
 :  useful for doing what I need to get done.  When I bought it about 3
 :  years
 :  ago, I wanted something I'd used before and I didn't want to learn 
 a
 :  whole
 :  new program.
 : I've looked at goldwave and sure it's much more powerful with
 :  effects,
 :  de-popping records, batch conversion to any formats, that kind of
 thing.
 :  I don't like the editing interface, how you can't hear right where
 that
 :  final bracket drops.  I suppose I can get used to it.  The price of
 gold
 :  wave is tempting, sound forge on the other hand costs more and
 that's
 :  really all I know about it.  What do you all like and or dislike
 about
 :  goldwave and soundforge? Thanks.
 :  Denny
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Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-25 Thread Gary Petraccaro
Nobody paid that much for SF, unless they had money to throw away.

- Original Message - 
From: Samuel Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:55 AM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


I also have a comment to make about Goldwave and Sound Forge which is the
 price. Goldwave costs about 50 to $55 where Sound Forge costs like $430. 
 If
 you are looking for a cheep sound editor that is good, I would suggest
 Goldwave because I think Sound Forge is a big rip-off but that's just me.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 7:50 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


I have the full version!
 - Original Message - 
 From: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 10:49 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 Just one comment that I forgot the other day.  If you are going to
 check-out SoundForge I would strongly suggest testing the full version.
 I
 sincerely think that Goldwave is better than SoundForge's Studio or
 Express version.  Now, some may disagree with that, but the Goldwave
 feature set has a lot more to offer than the low-end SoundForge.



 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 1:04 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 : Well I respect those who use Goldwave, and like it.  Maybe a lot of
 people
 : use it because of it's lower price, but a lot use Soundforge, because
 of
 its
 : effects, and maybe for it's Noisereduction feature.  That works for 
 me!
 : - Original Message - 
 : From: Chuck Adkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 : To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 : Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 4:06 AM
 : Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 :
 :
 :  Hello. I prefer Sound Forge because of the scrubbing features it 
 has.
 I
 :  also
 :  like the effects but don't get me wrong, Gold Wave is a very good
 program.
 :  For me Sound forge is a little bit more accessible. Of course, Sound
 Forge
 :  was the first editor I had experience with and that I think does
 color
 an
 :  oppion sometimes. It's like finding a car though. You can find 6
 people
 :  who
 :  like Fords and 6 people who like shevys. The best way is first, can
 you
 :  afford both programs in question and then second, download and try
 out
 :  each
 :  demo.
 : 
 :  Just my thoughts,
 : 
 :  Chuck
 : 
 :  P.S. I think some of the audio I've produced using the Noise
 Reduction
 :  plugins with Sound Forge seem to have better quality then some of 
 the
 NR
 :  effects I've used with Sound Forge.
 : 
 : 
 :  - Original Message - 
 :  From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 2:15 AM
 :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 : 
 : 
 :  Hi Denny!  I like Soundforge because of all the effects that it 
 has,
 as
 :  well
 :  as really enjoy the noisereduction plug-in, and I also like the
 ability
 :  to
 :  pitch shift with it!
 :  - Original Message - 
 :  From: Denny Daughters [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 1:40 PM
 :  Subject: gold wave vs sound forge
 : 
 : 
 :  Hi guys,
 : Right now I use a basic sound editor called Fast Edit.  I find
 it
 :  useful for doing what I need to get done.  When I bought it about 
 3
 :  years
 :  ago, I wanted something I'd used before and I didn't want to learn
 a
 :  whole
 :  new program.
 : I've looked at goldwave and sure it's much more powerful with
 :  effects,
 :  de-popping records, batch conversion to any formats, that kind of
 thing.
 :  I don't like the editing interface, how you can't hear right where
 that
 :  final bracket drops.  I suppose I can get used to it.  The price 
 of
 gold
 :  wave is tempting, sound forge on the other hand costs more and
 that's
 :  really all I know about it.  What do you all like and or dislike
 about
 :  goldwave and soundforge? Thanks.
 :  Denny
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 :  http://www.pc-audio.org
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Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-25 Thread Chuck Adkins
I agree. I don't know where that price was obtained but it is WAY WAY WAY 
WAY OFF. I thought I saw it some where for about $250. It all comes down to 
what do you want to do and what can you afford.
- Original Message - 
From: Gary Petraccaro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 5:18 AM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 Nobody paid that much for SF, unless they had money to throw away.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Samuel Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:55 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


I also have a comment to make about Goldwave and Sound Forge which is the
 price. Goldwave costs about 50 to $55 where Sound Forge costs like $430.
 If
 you are looking for a cheep sound editor that is good, I would suggest
 Goldwave because I think Sound Forge is a big rip-off but that's just me.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 7:50 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


I have the full version!
 - Original Message - 
 From: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 10:49 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 Just one comment that I forgot the other day.  If you are going to
 check-out SoundForge I would strongly suggest testing the full version.
 I
 sincerely think that Goldwave is better than SoundForge's Studio or
 Express version.  Now, some may disagree with that, but the Goldwave
 feature set has a lot more to offer than the low-end SoundForge.



 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 1:04 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 : Well I respect those who use Goldwave, and like it.  Maybe a lot of
 people
 : use it because of it's lower price, but a lot use Soundforge, because
 of
 its
 : effects, and maybe for it's Noisereduction feature.  That works for
 me!
 : - Original Message - 
 : From: Chuck Adkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 : To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 : Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 4:06 AM
 : Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 :
 :
 :  Hello. I prefer Sound Forge because of the scrubbing features it
 has.
 I
 :  also
 :  like the effects but don't get me wrong, Gold Wave is a very good
 program.
 :  For me Sound forge is a little bit more accessible. Of course, 
 Sound
 Forge
 :  was the first editor I had experience with and that I think does
 color
 an
 :  oppion sometimes. It's like finding a car though. You can find 6
 people
 :  who
 :  like Fords and 6 people who like shevys. The best way is first, can
 you
 :  afford both programs in question and then second, download and try
 out
 :  each
 :  demo.
 : 
 :  Just my thoughts,
 : 
 :  Chuck
 : 
 :  P.S. I think some of the audio I've produced using the Noise
 Reduction
 :  plugins with Sound Forge seem to have better quality then some of
 the
 NR
 :  effects I've used with Sound Forge.
 : 
 : 
 :  - Original Message - 
 :  From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 2:15 AM
 :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 : 
 : 
 :  Hi Denny!  I like Soundforge because of all the effects that it
 has,
 as
 :  well
 :  as really enjoy the noisereduction plug-in, and I also like the
 ability
 :  to
 :  pitch shift with it!
 :  - Original Message - 
 :  From: Denny Daughters [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 1:40 PM
 :  Subject: gold wave vs sound forge
 : 
 : 
 :  Hi guys,
 : Right now I use a basic sound editor called Fast Edit.  I find
 it
 :  useful for doing what I need to get done.  When I bought it about
 3
 :  years
 :  ago, I wanted something I'd used before and I didn't want to 
 learn
 a
 :  whole
 :  new program.
 : I've looked at goldwave and sure it's much more powerful with
 :  effects,
 :  de-popping records, batch conversion to any formats, that kind of
 thing.
 :  I don't like the editing interface, how you can't hear right 
 where
 that
 :  final bracket drops.  I suppose I can get used to it.  The price
 of
 gold
 :  wave is tempting, sound forge on the other hand costs more and
 that's
 :  really all I know about it.  What do you all like and or dislike
 about
 :  goldwave and soundforge? Thanks.
 :  Denny
 :  ___
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 :  http://www.pc-audio.org
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Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-25 Thread Gary Schindler
the only thing I wish that goldwave could do is to be a more precise or 
finer editor. you can't beat soundforges editing capabilities at any price.

- Original Message - 
From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:29 AM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 Some people say, You get what you pay for!  But actually, you have to 
 take
 a lot of things into consideration when purchasing a sound editor!  What
 features and abilities you want with a sound editor, and also, what you 
 can
 afford!
 - Original Message - 
 From: Brian Olesen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 3:42 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 HI,
 But it's also pretty expensive.

 Best regards
 Brian
 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:38 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


I think that from what I've heard so far, that Studio Recorder from APH 
is
 also quite a program!
 - Original Message - 
 From: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 12:59 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


I think that the individual needs to take a look at each, decide what
they
really need to do, and after all that then make the decision on how much
they are willing to pay to get the editor that will do what they need to
do.  I really like SoundForge, but I do a lot of audio for radio
programs,
etc.  The person simply wanting to get records to MP3 and clean the 
files
up to make them sound good may decide that they don't need all the
features
of Soundforge, and that they can good enough quality with Goldwave or
Audasity or something else.



 - Original Message - 
 From: Chuck Adkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 3:06 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 : Hello. I prefer Sound Forge because of the scrubbing features it has.
 I
 also
 : like the effects but don't get me wrong, Gold Wave is a very good
 program.
 : For me Sound forge is a little bit more accessible. Of course, Sound
 Forge
 : was the first editor I had experience with and that I think does 
 color
 an
 : oppion sometimes. It's like finding a car though. You can find 6
 people
 who
 : like Fords and 6 people who like shevys. The best way is first, can
 you
 : afford both programs in question and then second, download and try 
 out
 each
 : demo.
 :
 : Just my thoughts,
 :
 : Chuck
 :
 : P.S. I think some of the audio I've produced using the Noise 
 Reduction
 : plugins with Sound Forge seem to have better quality then some of the
 NR
 : effects I've used with Sound Forge.
 :
 :
 : - Original Message - 
 : From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 : To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 : Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 2:15 AM
 : Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 :
 :
 :  Hi Denny!  I like Soundforge because of all the effects that it 
 has,
 as
 :  well
 :  as really enjoy the noisereduction plug-in, and I also like the
 ability to
 :  pitch shift with it!
 :  - Original Message - 
 :  From: Denny Daughters [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 1:40 PM
 :  Subject: gold wave vs sound forge
 : 
 : 
 :  Hi guys,
 : Right now I use a basic sound editor called Fast Edit.  I find
 it
 :  useful for doing what I need to get done.  When I bought it about 
 3
 years
 :  ago, I wanted something I'd used before and I didn't want to learn
 a
 :  whole
 :  new program.
 : I've looked at goldwave and sure it's much more powerful with
 effects,
 :  de-popping records, batch conversion to any formats, that kind of
 thing.
 :  I don't like the editing interface, how you can't hear right where
 that
 :  final bracket drops.  I suppose I can get used to it.  The price 
 of
 gold
 :  wave is tempting, sound forge on the other hand costs more and
 that's
 :  really all I know about it.  What do you all like and or dislike
 about
 :  goldwave and soundforge? Thanks.
 :  Denny
 :  ___
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 :  http://www.pc-audio.org
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Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-25 Thread Rick Harmon
Hi Gary,

I can edit down to 1/100th of a second in goldwave.  How much more could you 
need?

Rick


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- Original Message - 
From: Gary Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


the only thing I wish that goldwave could do is to be a more precise or
finer editor. you can't beat soundforges editing capabilities at any price.

- Original Message - 
From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:29 AM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 Some people say, You get what you pay for!  But actually, you have to
 take
 a lot of things into consideration when purchasing a sound editor!  What
 features and abilities you want with a sound editor, and also, what you
 can
 afford!
 - Original Message - 
 From: Brian Olesen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 3:42 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 HI,
 But it's also pretty expensive.

 Best regards
 Brian
 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:38 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


I think that from what I've heard so far, that Studio Recorder from APH
is
 also quite a program!
 - Original Message - 
 From: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 12:59 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


I think that the individual needs to take a look at each, decide what
they
really need to do, and after all that then make the decision on how much
they are willing to pay to get the editor that will do what they need to
do.  I really like SoundForge, but I do a lot of audio for radio
programs,
etc.  The person simply wanting to get records to MP3 and clean the
files
up to make them sound good may decide that they don't need all the
features
of Soundforge, and that they can good enough quality with Goldwave or
Audasity or something else.



 - Original Message - 
 From: Chuck Adkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 3:06 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 : Hello. I prefer Sound Forge because of the scrubbing features it has.
 I
 also
 : like the effects but don't get me wrong, Gold Wave is a very good
 program.
 : For me Sound forge is a little bit more accessible. Of course, Sound
 Forge
 : was the first editor I had experience with and that I think does
 color
 an
 : oppion sometimes. It's like finding a car though. You can find 6
 people
 who
 : like Fords and 6 people who like shevys. The best way is first, can
 you
 : afford both programs in question and then second, download and try
 out
 each
 : demo.
 :
 : Just my thoughts,
 :
 : Chuck
 :
 : P.S. I think some of the audio I've produced using the Noise
 Reduction
 : plugins with Sound Forge seem to have better quality then some of the
 NR
 : effects I've used with Sound Forge.
 :
 :
 : - Original Message - 
 : From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 : To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 : Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 2:15 AM
 : Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 :
 :
 :  Hi Denny!  I like Soundforge because of all the effects that it
 has,
 as
 :  well
 :  as really enjoy the noisereduction plug-in, and I also like the
 ability to
 :  pitch shift with it!
 :  - Original Message - 
 :  From: Denny Daughters [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 1:40 PM
 :  Subject: gold wave vs sound forge
 : 
 : 
 :  Hi guys,
 : Right now I use a basic sound editor called Fast Edit.  I find
 it
 :  useful for doing what I need to get done.  When I bought it about
 3
 years
 :  ago, I wanted something I'd used before and I didn't want to learn
 a
 :  whole
 :  new program.
 : I've looked at goldwave and sure it's much more powerful with
 effects,
 :  de-popping records, batch conversion to any formats, that kind of
 thing.
 :  I don't like the editing interface, how you can't hear right where
 that
 :  final bracket drops.  I suppose I can get used to it.  The price
 of
 gold
 :  wave is tempting, sound forge on the other hand costs more and
 that's
 :  really all I know about it.  What do you all like and or dislike
 about
 :  goldwave and soundforge? Thanks.
 :  Denny
 :  ___
 :  PC

Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-25 Thread Gary Wood
I think that one problem Soundforge has is that it doesn't have multitrack 
capabilities!
- Original Message - 
From: Gary Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 the only thing I wish that goldwave could do is to be a more precise or
 finer editor. you can't beat soundforges editing capabilities at any 
 price.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:29 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 Some people say, You get what you pay for!  But actually, you have to
 take
 a lot of things into consideration when purchasing a sound editor!  What
 features and abilities you want with a sound editor, and also, what you
 can
 afford!
 - Original Message - 
 From: Brian Olesen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 3:42 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 HI,
 But it's also pretty expensive.

 Best regards
 Brian
 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:38 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


I think that from what I've heard so far, that Studio Recorder from APH
is
 also quite a program!
 - Original Message - 
 From: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 12:59 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


I think that the individual needs to take a look at each, decide what
they
really need to do, and after all that then make the decision on how 
much
they are willing to pay to get the editor that will do what they need 
to
do.  I really like SoundForge, but I do a lot of audio for radio
programs,
etc.  The person simply wanting to get records to MP3 and clean the
files
up to make them sound good may decide that they don't need all the
features
of Soundforge, and that they can good enough quality with Goldwave or
Audasity or something else.



 - Original Message - 
 From: Chuck Adkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 3:06 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 : Hello. I prefer Sound Forge because of the scrubbing features it 
 has.
 I
 also
 : like the effects but don't get me wrong, Gold Wave is a very good
 program.
 : For me Sound forge is a little bit more accessible. Of course, Sound
 Forge
 : was the first editor I had experience with and that I think does
 color
 an
 : oppion sometimes. It's like finding a car though. You can find 6
 people
 who
 : like Fords and 6 people who like shevys. The best way is first, can
 you
 : afford both programs in question and then second, download and try
 out
 each
 : demo.
 :
 : Just my thoughts,
 :
 : Chuck
 :
 : P.S. I think some of the audio I've produced using the Noise
 Reduction
 : plugins with Sound Forge seem to have better quality then some of 
 the
 NR
 : effects I've used with Sound Forge.
 :
 :
 : - Original Message - 
 : From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 : To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 : Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 2:15 AM
 : Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 :
 :
 :  Hi Denny!  I like Soundforge because of all the effects that it
 has,
 as
 :  well
 :  as really enjoy the noisereduction plug-in, and I also like the
 ability to
 :  pitch shift with it!
 :  - Original Message - 
 :  From: Denny Daughters [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 1:40 PM
 :  Subject: gold wave vs sound forge
 : 
 : 
 :  Hi guys,
 : Right now I use a basic sound editor called Fast Edit.  I find
 it
 :  useful for doing what I need to get done.  When I bought it about
 3
 years
 :  ago, I wanted something I'd used before and I didn't want to 
 learn
 a
 :  whole
 :  new program.
 : I've looked at goldwave and sure it's much more powerful with
 effects,
 :  de-popping records, batch conversion to any formats, that kind of
 thing.
 :  I don't like the editing interface, how you can't hear right 
 where
 that
 :  final bracket drops.  I suppose I can get used to it.  The price
 of
 gold
 :  wave is tempting, sound forge on the other hand costs more and
 that's
 :  really all I know about it.  What do you all like and or dislike
 about
 :  goldwave and soundforge? Thanks.
 :  Denny
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Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-25 Thread Gary Wood
This does sound like great editing capability!
- Original Message - 
From: Rick Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 11:12 AM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 Hi Gary,

 I can edit down to 1/100th of a second in goldwave.  How much more could 
 you
 need?

 Rick


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 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 10:42 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 the only thing I wish that goldwave could do is to be a more precise or
 finer editor. you can't beat soundforges editing capabilities at any 
 price.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:29 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 Some people say, You get what you pay for!  But actually, you have to
 take
 a lot of things into consideration when purchasing a sound editor!  What
 features and abilities you want with a sound editor, and also, what you
 can
 afford!
 - Original Message - 
 From: Brian Olesen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 3:42 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 HI,
 But it's also pretty expensive.

 Best regards
 Brian
 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:38 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


I think that from what I've heard so far, that Studio Recorder from APH
is
 also quite a program!
 - Original Message - 
 From: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 12:59 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


I think that the individual needs to take a look at each, decide what
they
really need to do, and after all that then make the decision on how 
much
they are willing to pay to get the editor that will do what they need 
to
do.  I really like SoundForge, but I do a lot of audio for radio
programs,
etc.  The person simply wanting to get records to MP3 and clean the
files
up to make them sound good may decide that they don't need all the
features
of Soundforge, and that they can good enough quality with Goldwave or
Audasity or something else.



 - Original Message - 
 From: Chuck Adkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 3:06 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 : Hello. I prefer Sound Forge because of the scrubbing features it 
 has.
 I
 also
 : like the effects but don't get me wrong, Gold Wave is a very good
 program.
 : For me Sound forge is a little bit more accessible. Of course, Sound
 Forge
 : was the first editor I had experience with and that I think does
 color
 an
 : oppion sometimes. It's like finding a car though. You can find 6
 people
 who
 : like Fords and 6 people who like shevys. The best way is first, can
 you
 : afford both programs in question and then second, download and try
 out
 each
 : demo.
 :
 : Just my thoughts,
 :
 : Chuck
 :
 : P.S. I think some of the audio I've produced using the Noise
 Reduction
 : plugins with Sound Forge seem to have better quality then some of 
 the
 NR
 : effects I've used with Sound Forge.
 :
 :
 : - Original Message - 
 : From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 : To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 : Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 2:15 AM
 : Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 :
 :
 :  Hi Denny!  I like Soundforge because of all the effects that it
 has,
 as
 :  well
 :  as really enjoy the noisereduction plug-in, and I also like the
 ability to
 :  pitch shift with it!
 :  - Original Message - 
 :  From: Denny Daughters [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 1:40 PM
 :  Subject: gold wave vs sound forge
 : 
 : 
 :  Hi guys,
 : Right now I use a basic sound editor called Fast Edit.  I find
 it
 :  useful for doing what I need to get done.  When I bought it about
 3
 years
 :  ago, I wanted something I'd used before and I didn't want to 
 learn
 a
 :  whole
 :  new program.
 : I've looked at goldwave and sure it's much more powerful with
 effects,
 :  de-popping records, batch conversion to any formats, that kind of
 thing.
 :  I don't like the editing interface, how you can't hear right 
 where
 that
 :  final bracket drops.  I suppose I can get used

Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-25 Thread Rick Harmon
It took me a bit to figure it out but once you get the hang of it its not 
hard to do with goldwave.  I am interested in Sf as well just don't have the 
money to spend on it.  I do feel for the money goldwave is the best editor.

Rick


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- Original Message - 
From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 11:48 AM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


This does sound like great editing capability!
- Original Message - 
From: Rick Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 11:12 AM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 Hi Gary,

 I can edit down to 1/100th of a second in goldwave.  How much more could
 you
 need?

 Rick


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 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 10:42 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 the only thing I wish that goldwave could do is to be a more precise or
 finer editor. you can't beat soundforges editing capabilities at any
 price.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:29 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 Some people say, You get what you pay for!  But actually, you have to
 take
 a lot of things into consideration when purchasing a sound editor!  What
 features and abilities you want with a sound editor, and also, what you
 can
 afford!
 - Original Message - 
 From: Brian Olesen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 3:42 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 HI,
 But it's also pretty expensive.

 Best regards
 Brian
 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:38 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


I think that from what I've heard so far, that Studio Recorder from APH
is
 also quite a program!
 - Original Message - 
 From: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 12:59 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


I think that the individual needs to take a look at each, decide what
they
really need to do, and after all that then make the decision on how
much
they are willing to pay to get the editor that will do what they need
to
do.  I really like SoundForge, but I do a lot of audio for radio
programs,
etc.  The person simply wanting to get records to MP3 and clean the
files
up to make them sound good may decide that they don't need all the
features
of Soundforge, and that they can good enough quality with Goldwave or
Audasity or something else.



 - Original Message - 
 From: Chuck Adkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 3:06 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 : Hello. I prefer Sound Forge because of the scrubbing features it
 has.
 I
 also
 : like the effects but don't get me wrong, Gold Wave is a very good
 program.
 : For me Sound forge is a little bit more accessible. Of course, Sound
 Forge
 : was the first editor I had experience with and that I think does
 color
 an
 : oppion sometimes. It's like finding a car though. You can find 6
 people
 who
 : like Fords and 6 people who like shevys. The best way is first, can
 you
 : afford both programs in question and then second, download and try
 out
 each
 : demo.
 :
 : Just my thoughts,
 :
 : Chuck
 :
 : P.S. I think some of the audio I've produced using the Noise
 Reduction
 : plugins with Sound Forge seem to have better quality then some of
 the
 NR
 : effects I've used with Sound Forge.
 :
 :
 : - Original Message - 
 : From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 : To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 : Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 2:15 AM
 : Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 :
 :
 :  Hi Denny!  I like Soundforge because of all the effects that it
 has,
 as
 :  well
 :  as really enjoy the noisereduction plug-in, and I also like the
 ability to
 :  pitch shift

Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-25 Thread Bruce Toews
With GW you can edit to within a thousandth of a second or finer. How much 
finer do you want than that?

Bruce

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On Thu, 25 May 2006, Gary Schindler wrote:

 the only thing I wish that goldwave could do is to be a more precise or
 finer editor. you can't beat soundforges editing capabilities at any price.

 - Original Message -
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:29 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 Some people say, You get what you pay for!  But actually, you have to
 take
 a lot of things into consideration when purchasing a sound editor!  What
 features and abilities you want with a sound editor, and also, what you
 can
 afford!
 - Original Message -
 From: Brian Olesen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 3:42 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 HI,
 But it's also pretty expensive.

 Best regards
 Brian
 - Original Message -
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:38 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 I think that from what I've heard so far, that Studio Recorder from APH
 is
 also quite a program!
 - Original Message -
 From: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 12:59 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 I think that the individual needs to take a look at each, decide what
 they
 really need to do, and after all that then make the decision on how much
 they are willing to pay to get the editor that will do what they need to
 do.  I really like SoundForge, but I do a lot of audio for radio
 programs,
 etc.  The person simply wanting to get records to MP3 and clean the
 files
 up to make them sound good may decide that they don't need all the
 features
 of Soundforge, and that they can good enough quality with Goldwave or
 Audasity or something else.



 - Original Message -
 From: Chuck Adkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 3:06 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 : Hello. I prefer Sound Forge because of the scrubbing features it has.
 I
 also
 : like the effects but don't get me wrong, Gold Wave is a very good
 program.
 : For me Sound forge is a little bit more accessible. Of course, Sound
 Forge
 : was the first editor I had experience with and that I think does
 color
 an
 : oppion sometimes. It's like finding a car though. You can find 6
 people
 who
 : like Fords and 6 people who like shevys. The best way is first, can
 you
 : afford both programs in question and then second, download and try
 out
 each
 : demo.
 :
 : Just my thoughts,
 :
 : Chuck
 :
 : P.S. I think some of the audio I've produced using the Noise
 Reduction
 : plugins with Sound Forge seem to have better quality then some of the
 NR
 : effects I've used with Sound Forge.
 :
 :
 : - Original Message -
 : From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 : To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 : Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 2:15 AM
 : Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 :
 :
 :  Hi Denny!  I like Soundforge because of all the effects that it
 has,
 as
 :  well
 :  as really enjoy the noisereduction plug-in, and I also like the
 ability to
 :  pitch shift with it!
 :  - Original Message -
 :  From: Denny Daughters [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 1:40 PM
 :  Subject: gold wave vs sound forge
 : 
 : 
 :  Hi guys,
 : Right now I use a basic sound editor called Fast Edit.  I find
 it
 :  useful for doing what I need to get done.  When I bought it about
 3
 years
 :  ago, I wanted something I'd used before and I didn't want to learn
 a
 :  whole
 :  new program.
 : I've looked at goldwave and sure it's much more powerful with
 effects,
 :  de-popping records, batch conversion to any formats, that kind of
 thing.
 :  I don't like the editing interface, how you can't hear right where
 that
 :  final bracket drops.  I suppose I can get used to it.  The price
 of
 gold
 :  wave is tempting, sound forge on the other hand costs more and
 that's
 :  really all I know about it.  What do you all like and or dislike
 about
 :  goldwave and soundforge? Thanks.
 :  Denny
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 :  http://www.pc-audio.org

Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-25 Thread HF
Can you scrub in Goldwave like you can in SoundForge?

HF
- Original Message - 
From: Rick Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 11:53 AM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 It took me a bit to figure it out but once you get the hang of it its not
 hard to do with goldwave.  I am interested in Sf as well just don't have 
 the
 money to spend on it.  I do feel for the money goldwave is the best 
 editor.

 Rick


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 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 11:48 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 This does sound like great editing capability!
 - Original Message - 
 From: Rick Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 11:12 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 Hi Gary,

 I can edit down to 1/100th of a second in goldwave.  How much more could
 you
 need?

 Rick


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 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 10:42 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 the only thing I wish that goldwave could do is to be a more precise or
 finer editor. you can't beat soundforges editing capabilities at any
 price.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:29 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 Some people say, You get what you pay for!  But actually, you have to
 take
 a lot of things into consideration when purchasing a sound editor!  What
 features and abilities you want with a sound editor, and also, what you
 can
 afford!
 - Original Message - 
 From: Brian Olesen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 3:42 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 HI,
 But it's also pretty expensive.

 Best regards
 Brian
 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:38 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


I think that from what I've heard so far, that Studio Recorder from APH
is
 also quite a program!
 - Original Message - 
 From: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 12:59 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


I think that the individual needs to take a look at each, decide what
they
really need to do, and after all that then make the decision on how
much
they are willing to pay to get the editor that will do what they need
to
do.  I really like SoundForge, but I do a lot of audio for radio
programs,
etc.  The person simply wanting to get records to MP3 and clean the
files
up to make them sound good may decide that they don't need all the
features
of Soundforge, and that they can good enough quality with Goldwave or
Audasity or something else.



 - Original Message - 
 From: Chuck Adkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 3:06 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 : Hello. I prefer Sound Forge because of the scrubbing features it
 has.
 I
 also
 : like the effects but don't get me wrong, Gold Wave is a very good
 program.
 : For me Sound forge is a little bit more accessible. Of course, 
 Sound
 Forge
 : was the first editor I had experience with and that I think does
 color
 an
 : oppion sometimes. It's like finding a car though. You can find 6
 people
 who
 : like Fords and 6 people who like shevys. The best way is first, can
 you
 : afford both programs in question and then second, download and try
 out
 each
 : demo.
 :
 : Just my thoughts,
 :
 : Chuck
 :
 : P.S. I think some of the audio I've produced using the Noise
 Reduction
 : plugins with Sound Forge seem to have better quality then some of
 the
 NR
 : effects I've used with Sound Forge.
 :
 :
 : - Original Message - 
 : From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 : To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org

Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-25 Thread Gary Schindler
Hi Rick, I guess I am not good enough with Goldwave for getting big clicks 
from vinyl records that the click pop filter can't get. I have trouble 
manipulating the start finish markers I guess!

- Original Message - 
From: Rick Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 11:12 AM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 Hi Gary,

 I can edit down to 1/100th of a second in goldwave.  How much more could 
 you
 need?

 Rick


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 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 10:42 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 the only thing I wish that goldwave could do is to be a more precise or
 finer editor. you can't beat soundforges editing capabilities at any 
 price.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:29 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 Some people say, You get what you pay for!  But actually, you have to
 take
 a lot of things into consideration when purchasing a sound editor!  What
 features and abilities you want with a sound editor, and also, what you
 can
 afford!
 - Original Message - 
 From: Brian Olesen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 3:42 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 HI,
 But it's also pretty expensive.

 Best regards
 Brian
 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:38 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


I think that from what I've heard so far, that Studio Recorder from APH
is
 also quite a program!
 - Original Message - 
 From: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 12:59 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


I think that the individual needs to take a look at each, decide what
they
really need to do, and after all that then make the decision on how 
much
they are willing to pay to get the editor that will do what they need 
to
do.  I really like SoundForge, but I do a lot of audio for radio
programs,
etc.  The person simply wanting to get records to MP3 and clean the
files
up to make them sound good may decide that they don't need all the
features
of Soundforge, and that they can good enough quality with Goldwave or
Audasity or something else.



 - Original Message - 
 From: Chuck Adkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 3:06 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 : Hello. I prefer Sound Forge because of the scrubbing features it 
 has.
 I
 also
 : like the effects but don't get me wrong, Gold Wave is a very good
 program.
 : For me Sound forge is a little bit more accessible. Of course, Sound
 Forge
 : was the first editor I had experience with and that I think does
 color
 an
 : oppion sometimes. It's like finding a car though. You can find 6
 people
 who
 : like Fords and 6 people who like shevys. The best way is first, can
 you
 : afford both programs in question and then second, download and try
 out
 each
 : demo.
 :
 : Just my thoughts,
 :
 : Chuck
 :
 : P.S. I think some of the audio I've produced using the Noise
 Reduction
 : plugins with Sound Forge seem to have better quality then some of 
 the
 NR
 : effects I've used with Sound Forge.
 :
 :
 : - Original Message - 
 : From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 : To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 : Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 2:15 AM
 : Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 :
 :
 :  Hi Denny!  I like Soundforge because of all the effects that it
 has,
 as
 :  well
 :  as really enjoy the noisereduction plug-in, and I also like the
 ability to
 :  pitch shift with it!
 :  - Original Message - 
 :  From: Denny Daughters [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 1:40 PM
 :  Subject: gold wave vs sound forge
 : 
 : 
 :  Hi guys,
 : Right now I use a basic sound editor called Fast Edit.  I find
 it
 :  useful for doing what I need to get done.  When I bought it about
 3
 years
 :  ago, I wanted something I'd used before and I didn't want to 
 learn
 a
 :  whole
 :  new program.
 : I've looked at goldwave and sure it's much more powerful with
 effects,
 :  de-popping records, batch conversion to any formats

Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-25 Thread Bruce Toews
Use fast forward and rewind for that sort of precision. I'm able to quite 
easily wind up with a selection that is no longer than a record pop.

Bruce

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On Thu, 25 May 2006, Gary Schindler wrote:

 Hi Rick, I guess I am not good enough with Goldwave for getting big clicks
 from vinyl records that the click pop filter can't get. I have trouble
 manipulating the start finish markers I guess!

 - Original Message -
 From: Rick Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 11:12 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 Hi Gary,

 I can edit down to 1/100th of a second in goldwave.  How much more could
 you
 need?

 Rick


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 - Original Message -
 From: Gary Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 10:42 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 the only thing I wish that goldwave could do is to be a more precise or
 finer editor. you can't beat soundforges editing capabilities at any
 price.

 - Original Message -
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:29 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 Some people say, You get what you pay for!  But actually, you have to
 take
 a lot of things into consideration when purchasing a sound editor!  What
 features and abilities you want with a sound editor, and also, what you
 can
 afford!
 - Original Message -
 From: Brian Olesen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 3:42 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 HI,
 But it's also pretty expensive.

 Best regards
 Brian
 - Original Message -
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:38 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 I think that from what I've heard so far, that Studio Recorder from APH
 is
 also quite a program!
 - Original Message -
 From: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 12:59 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 I think that the individual needs to take a look at each, decide what
 they
 really need to do, and after all that then make the decision on how
 much
 they are willing to pay to get the editor that will do what they need
 to
 do.  I really like SoundForge, but I do a lot of audio for radio
 programs,
 etc.  The person simply wanting to get records to MP3 and clean the
 files
 up to make them sound good may decide that they don't need all the
 features
 of Soundforge, and that they can good enough quality with Goldwave or
 Audasity or something else.



 - Original Message -
 From: Chuck Adkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 3:06 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 : Hello. I prefer Sound Forge because of the scrubbing features it
 has.
 I
 also
 : like the effects but don't get me wrong, Gold Wave is a very good
 program.
 : For me Sound forge is a little bit more accessible. Of course, Sound
 Forge
 : was the first editor I had experience with and that I think does
 color
 an
 : oppion sometimes. It's like finding a car though. You can find 6
 people
 who
 : like Fords and 6 people who like shevys. The best way is first, can
 you
 : afford both programs in question and then second, download and try
 out
 each
 : demo.
 :
 : Just my thoughts,
 :
 : Chuck
 :
 : P.S. I think some of the audio I've produced using the Noise
 Reduction
 : plugins with Sound Forge seem to have better quality then some of
 the
 NR
 : effects I've used with Sound Forge.
 :
 :
 : - Original Message -
 : From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 : To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 : Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 2:15 AM
 : Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 :
 :
 :  Hi Denny!  I like Soundforge because of all the effects that it
 has,
 as
 :  well
 :  as really enjoy the noisereduction plug-in, and I also like the
 ability to
 :  pitch shift with it!
 :  - Original Message -
 :  From: Denny

Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-25 Thread Rick Harmon
no but I have no clue what that is anyways

Rick


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- Original Message - 
From: HF [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:07 PM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


Can you scrub in Goldwave like you can in SoundForge?

HF
- Original Message - 
From: Rick Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 11:53 AM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 It took me a bit to figure it out but once you get the hang of it its not
 hard to do with goldwave.  I am interested in Sf as well just don't have
 the
 money to spend on it.  I do feel for the money goldwave is the best
 editor.

 Rick


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 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 11:48 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 This does sound like great editing capability!
 - Original Message - 
 From: Rick Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 11:12 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 Hi Gary,

 I can edit down to 1/100th of a second in goldwave.  How much more could
 you
 need?

 Rick


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 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 10:42 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 the only thing I wish that goldwave could do is to be a more precise or
 finer editor. you can't beat soundforges editing capabilities at any
 price.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:29 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 Some people say, You get what you pay for!  But actually, you have to
 take
 a lot of things into consideration when purchasing a sound editor!  What
 features and abilities you want with a sound editor, and also, what you
 can
 afford!
 - Original Message - 
 From: Brian Olesen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 3:42 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 HI,
 But it's also pretty expensive.

 Best regards
 Brian
 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:38 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


I think that from what I've heard so far, that Studio Recorder from APH
is
 also quite a program!
 - Original Message - 
 From: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 12:59 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


I think that the individual needs to take a look at each, decide what
they
really need to do, and after all that then make the decision on how
much
they are willing to pay to get the editor that will do what they need
to
do.  I really like SoundForge, but I do a lot of audio for radio
programs,
etc.  The person simply wanting to get records to MP3 and clean the
files
up to make them sound good may decide that they don't need all the
features
of Soundforge, and that they can good enough quality with Goldwave or
Audasity or something else.



 - Original Message - 
 From: Chuck Adkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 3:06 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 : Hello. I prefer Sound Forge because of the scrubbing features it
 has.
 I
 also
 : like the effects but don't get me wrong, Gold Wave is a very good
 program.
 : For me Sound forge is a little bit more accessible. Of course,
 Sound
 Forge
 : was the first editor I had experience with and that I think does
 color
 an
 : oppion sometimes. It's like finding

Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-25 Thread Rick Harmon
Hi,

I'm no expert either but it can be done.  And maybe SF can do it easier I 
don't honestly know.

Rick


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- Original Message - 
From: Gary Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:12 PM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


Hi Rick, I guess I am not good enough with Goldwave for getting big clicks
from vinyl records that the click pop filter can't get. I have trouble
manipulating the start finish markers I guess!

- Original Message - 
From: Rick Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 11:12 AM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 Hi Gary,

 I can edit down to 1/100th of a second in goldwave.  How much more could
 you
 need?

 Rick


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 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 10:42 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 the only thing I wish that goldwave could do is to be a more precise or
 finer editor. you can't beat soundforges editing capabilities at any
 price.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:29 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 Some people say, You get what you pay for!  But actually, you have to
 take
 a lot of things into consideration when purchasing a sound editor!  What
 features and abilities you want with a sound editor, and also, what you
 can
 afford!
 - Original Message - 
 From: Brian Olesen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 3:42 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 HI,
 But it's also pretty expensive.

 Best regards
 Brian
 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:38 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


I think that from what I've heard so far, that Studio Recorder from APH
is
 also quite a program!
 - Original Message - 
 From: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 12:59 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


I think that the individual needs to take a look at each, decide what
they
really need to do, and after all that then make the decision on how
much
they are willing to pay to get the editor that will do what they need
to
do.  I really like SoundForge, but I do a lot of audio for radio
programs,
etc.  The person simply wanting to get records to MP3 and clean the
files
up to make them sound good may decide that they don't need all the
features
of Soundforge, and that they can good enough quality with Goldwave or
Audasity or something else.



 - Original Message - 
 From: Chuck Adkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 3:06 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 : Hello. I prefer Sound Forge because of the scrubbing features it
 has.
 I
 also
 : like the effects but don't get me wrong, Gold Wave is a very good
 program.
 : For me Sound forge is a little bit more accessible. Of course, Sound
 Forge
 : was the first editor I had experience with and that I think does
 color
 an
 : oppion sometimes. It's like finding a car though. You can find 6
 people
 who
 : like Fords and 6 people who like shevys. The best way is first, can
 you
 : afford both programs in question and then second, download and try
 out
 each
 : demo.
 :
 : Just my thoughts,
 :
 : Chuck
 :
 : P.S. I think some of the audio I've produced using the Noise
 Reduction
 : plugins with Sound Forge seem to have better quality then some of
 the
 NR
 : effects I've used with Sound Forge.
 :
 :
 : - Original Message - 
 : From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 : To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 : Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 2:15 AM
 : Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 :
 :
 :  Hi Denny!  I like Soundforge because of all the effects that it
 has,
 as
 :  well
 :  as really enjoy the noisereduction plug-in, and I also like the
 ability to
 :  pitch

Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-25 Thread Gary Schindler
I just have to get getter with moving the markers and fast forward rewind 
controls.

- Original Message - 
From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:13 PM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 Use fast forward and rewind for that sort of precision. I'm able to quite
 easily wind up with a selection that is no longer than a record pop.

 Bruce

 -- 
 Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
 gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV

 Bruce Toews
 E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net
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 Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com

 On Thu, 25 May 2006, Gary Schindler wrote:

 Hi Rick, I guess I am not good enough with Goldwave for getting big 
 clicks
 from vinyl records that the click pop filter can't get. I have trouble
 manipulating the start finish markers I guess!

 - Original Message -
 From: Rick Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 11:12 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 Hi Gary,

 I can edit down to 1/100th of a second in goldwave.  How much more could
 you
 need?

 Rick


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 - Original Message -
 From: Gary Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 10:42 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 the only thing I wish that goldwave could do is to be a more precise or
 finer editor. you can't beat soundforges editing capabilities at any
 price.

 - Original Message -
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:29 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 Some people say, You get what you pay for!  But actually, you have to
 take
 a lot of things into consideration when purchasing a sound editor! 
 What
 features and abilities you want with a sound editor, and also, what you
 can
 afford!
 - Original Message -
 From: Brian Olesen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 3:42 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 HI,
 But it's also pretty expensive.

 Best regards
 Brian
 - Original Message -
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:38 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 I think that from what I've heard so far, that Studio Recorder from 
 APH
 is
 also quite a program!
 - Original Message -
 From: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 12:59 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 I think that the individual needs to take a look at each, decide 
 what
 they
 really need to do, and after all that then make the decision on how
 much
 they are willing to pay to get the editor that will do what they 
 need
 to
 do.  I really like SoundForge, but I do a lot of audio for radio
 programs,
 etc.  The person simply wanting to get records to MP3 and clean the
 files
 up to make them sound good may decide that they don't need all the
 features
 of Soundforge, and that they can good enough quality with Goldwave 
 or
 Audasity or something else.



 - Original Message -
 From: Chuck Adkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 3:06 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 : Hello. I prefer Sound Forge because of the scrubbing features it
 has.
 I
 also
 : like the effects but don't get me wrong, Gold Wave is a very good
 program.
 : For me Sound forge is a little bit more accessible. Of course, 
 Sound
 Forge
 : was the first editor I had experience with and that I think does
 color
 an
 : oppion sometimes. It's like finding a car though. You can find 6
 people
 who
 : like Fords and 6 people who like shevys. The best way is first, 
 can
 you
 : afford both programs in question and then second, download and try
 out
 each
 : demo.
 :
 : Just my thoughts,
 :
 : Chuck
 :
 : P.S. I think some of the audio I've produced using the Noise
 Reduction
 : plugins with Sound Forge seem to have better quality then some of
 the
 NR
 : effects I've used with Sound Forge.
 :
 :
 : - Original Message -
 : From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 : To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 : Sent: Tuesday, May

Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-25 Thread Bruce Toews
One thing you might want to take advantage of is the ability to set the 
speed for fast forward and rewind from within the options dialog. You can, 
in fact, get it to slow down the speed for fast forward and rewind.

Bruce

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gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV

Bruce Toews
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Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net
Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net
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On Thu, 25 May 2006, Gary Schindler wrote:

 I just have to get getter with moving the markers and fast forward rewind
 controls.

 - Original Message -
 From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:13 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 Use fast forward and rewind for that sort of precision. I'm able to quite
 easily wind up with a selection that is no longer than a record pop.

 Bruce

 --
 Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
 gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV

 Bruce Toews
 E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net
 Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net
 Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com

 On Thu, 25 May 2006, Gary Schindler wrote:

 Hi Rick, I guess I am not good enough with Goldwave for getting big
 clicks
 from vinyl records that the click pop filter can't get. I have trouble
 manipulating the start finish markers I guess!

 - Original Message -
 From: Rick Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 11:12 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 Hi Gary,

 I can edit down to 1/100th of a second in goldwave.  How much more could
 you
 need?

 Rick


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 Skype ID: rharmon928
 MSN ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 seeing people towards them.
 - Helen Keller, 1925



 - Original Message -
 From: Gary Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 10:42 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 the only thing I wish that goldwave could do is to be a more precise or
 finer editor. you can't beat soundforges editing capabilities at any
 price.

 - Original Message -
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:29 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 Some people say, You get what you pay for!  But actually, you have to
 take
 a lot of things into consideration when purchasing a sound editor!
 What
 features and abilities you want with a sound editor, and also, what you
 can
 afford!
 - Original Message -
 From: Brian Olesen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 3:42 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 HI,
 But it's also pretty expensive.

 Best regards
 Brian
 - Original Message -
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:38 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 I think that from what I've heard so far, that Studio Recorder from
 APH
 is
 also quite a program!
 - Original Message -
 From: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 12:59 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 I think that the individual needs to take a look at each, decide
 what
 they
 really need to do, and after all that then make the decision on how
 much
 they are willing to pay to get the editor that will do what they
 need
 to
 do.  I really like SoundForge, but I do a lot of audio for radio
 programs,
 etc.  The person simply wanting to get records to MP3 and clean the
 files
 up to make them sound good may decide that they don't need all the
 features
 of Soundforge, and that they can good enough quality with Goldwave
 or
 Audasity or something else.



 - Original Message -
 From: Chuck Adkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 3:06 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 : Hello. I prefer Sound Forge because of the scrubbing features it
 has.
 I
 also
 : like the effects but don't get me wrong, Gold Wave is a very good
 program.
 : For me Sound forge is a little bit more accessible. Of course,
 Sound
 Forge
 : was the first editor I had experience with and that I think does

Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-25 Thread Rick Harmon
Hi Bruce,

Yes that is very handy.  There is also a speed adjust on the other window 
but its hard for me to adjust back to 1x speed there.

Rick


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- Original Message - 
From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:19 PM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


One thing you might want to take advantage of is the ability to set the
speed for fast forward and rewind from within the options dialog. You can,
in fact, get it to slow down the speed for fast forward and rewind.

Bruce

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On Thu, 25 May 2006, Gary Schindler wrote:

 I just have to get getter with moving the markers and fast forward rewind
 controls.

 - Original Message -
 From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:13 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 Use fast forward and rewind for that sort of precision. I'm able to quite
 easily wind up with a selection that is no longer than a record pop.

 Bruce

 --
 Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
 gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV

 Bruce Toews
 E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com

 On Thu, 25 May 2006, Gary Schindler wrote:

 Hi Rick, I guess I am not good enough with Goldwave for getting big
 clicks
 from vinyl records that the click pop filter can't get. I have trouble
 manipulating the start finish markers I guess!

 - Original Message -
 From: Rick Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 11:12 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 Hi Gary,

 I can edit down to 1/100th of a second in goldwave.  How much more 
 could
 you
 need?

 Rick


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 - Original Message -
 From: Gary Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 10:42 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 the only thing I wish that goldwave could do is to be a more precise or
 finer editor. you can't beat soundforges editing capabilities at any
 price.

 - Original Message -
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:29 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 Some people say, You get what you pay for!  But actually, you have 
 to
 take
 a lot of things into consideration when purchasing a sound editor!
 What
 features and abilities you want with a sound editor, and also, what 
 you
 can
 afford!
 - Original Message -
 From: Brian Olesen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 3:42 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 HI,
 But it's also pretty expensive.

 Best regards
 Brian
 - Original Message -
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:38 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 I think that from what I've heard so far, that Studio Recorder from
 APH
 is
 also quite a program!
 - Original Message -
 From: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 12:59 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 I think that the individual needs to take a look at each, decide
 what
 they
 really need to do, and after all that then make the decision on how
 much
 they are willing to pay to get the editor that will do what they
 need
 to
 do.  I really like SoundForge, but I do a lot of audio for radio
 programs,
 etc.  The person simply wanting to get records to MP3 and clean the
 files
 up

Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-25 Thread Jim Noseworthy
That's interesting.

Goldwave can be adjusted to edit within thousands of a second.


- Original Message - 
From: Gary Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 the only thing I wish that goldwave could do is to be a more precise or
 finer editor. you can't beat soundforges editing capabilities at any 
 price.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:29 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 Some people say, You get what you pay for!  But actually, you have to
 take
 a lot of things into consideration when purchasing a sound editor!  What
 features and abilities you want with a sound editor, and also, what you
 can
 afford!
 - Original Message - 
 From: Brian Olesen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 3:42 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 HI,
 But it's also pretty expensive.

 Best regards
 Brian
 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:38 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


I think that from what I've heard so far, that Studio Recorder from APH
is
 also quite a program!
 - Original Message - 
 From: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 12:59 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


I think that the individual needs to take a look at each, decide what
they
really need to do, and after all that then make the decision on how 
much
they are willing to pay to get the editor that will do what they need 
to
do.  I really like SoundForge, but I do a lot of audio for radio
programs,
etc.  The person simply wanting to get records to MP3 and clean the
files
up to make them sound good may decide that they don't need all the
features
of Soundforge, and that they can good enough quality with Goldwave or
Audasity or something else.



 - Original Message - 
 From: Chuck Adkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 3:06 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 : Hello. I prefer Sound Forge because of the scrubbing features it 
 has.
 I
 also
 : like the effects but don't get me wrong, Gold Wave is a very good
 program.
 : For me Sound forge is a little bit more accessible. Of course, Sound
 Forge
 : was the first editor I had experience with and that I think does
 color
 an
 : oppion sometimes. It's like finding a car though. You can find 6
 people
 who
 : like Fords and 6 people who like shevys. The best way is first, can
 you
 : afford both programs in question and then second, download and try
 out
 each
 : demo.
 :
 : Just my thoughts,
 :
 : Chuck
 :
 : P.S. I think some of the audio I've produced using the Noise
 Reduction
 : plugins with Sound Forge seem to have better quality then some of 
 the
 NR
 : effects I've used with Sound Forge.
 :
 :
 : - Original Message - 
 : From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 : To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 : Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 2:15 AM
 : Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 :
 :
 :  Hi Denny!  I like Soundforge because of all the effects that it
 has,
 as
 :  well
 :  as really enjoy the noisereduction plug-in, and I also like the
 ability to
 :  pitch shift with it!
 :  - Original Message - 
 :  From: Denny Daughters [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 1:40 PM
 :  Subject: gold wave vs sound forge
 : 
 : 
 :  Hi guys,
 : Right now I use a basic sound editor called Fast Edit.  I find
 it
 :  useful for doing what I need to get done.  When I bought it about
 3
 years
 :  ago, I wanted something I'd used before and I didn't want to 
 learn
 a
 :  whole
 :  new program.
 : I've looked at goldwave and sure it's much more powerful with
 effects,
 :  de-popping records, batch conversion to any formats, that kind of
 thing.
 :  I don't like the editing interface, how you can't hear right 
 where
 that
 :  final bracket drops.  I suppose I can get used to it.  The price
 of
 gold
 :  wave is tempting, sound forge on the other hand costs more and
 that's
 :  really all I know about it.  What do you all like and or dislike
 about
 :  goldwave and soundforge? Thanks.
 :  Denny
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Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-25 Thread Chuck Adkins
I haven't been able to do it either. I haven't figured out how to mark begin 
and end points, and then separate the selection I have marked. I was afraid 
to ask because of some of these lists if you don't get a concept as fast as 
some think you should, your put in a very very bad light.


- Original Message - 
From: Gary Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


I just have to get getter with moving the markers and fast forward rewind
 controls.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:13 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 Use fast forward and rewind for that sort of precision. I'm able to quite
 easily wind up with a selection that is no longer than a record pop.

 Bruce

 -- 
 Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
 gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV

 Bruce Toews
 E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net
 Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net
 Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com

 On Thu, 25 May 2006, Gary Schindler wrote:

 Hi Rick, I guess I am not good enough with Goldwave for getting big
 clicks
 from vinyl records that the click pop filter can't get. I have trouble
 manipulating the start finish markers I guess!

 - Original Message -
 From: Rick Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 11:12 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 Hi Gary,

 I can edit down to 1/100th of a second in goldwave.  How much more 
 could
 you
 need?

 Rick


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 - Original Message -
 From: Gary Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 10:42 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 the only thing I wish that goldwave could do is to be a more precise or
 finer editor. you can't beat soundforges editing capabilities at any
 price.

 - Original Message -
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:29 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 Some people say, You get what you pay for!  But actually, you have 
 to
 take
 a lot of things into consideration when purchasing a sound editor!
 What
 features and abilities you want with a sound editor, and also, what 
 you
 can
 afford!
 - Original Message -
 From: Brian Olesen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 3:42 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 HI,
 But it's also pretty expensive.

 Best regards
 Brian
 - Original Message -
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:38 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 I think that from what I've heard so far, that Studio Recorder from
 APH
 is
 also quite a program!
 - Original Message -
 From: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 12:59 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 I think that the individual needs to take a look at each, decide
 what
 they
 really need to do, and after all that then make the decision on how
 much
 they are willing to pay to get the editor that will do what they
 need
 to
 do.  I really like SoundForge, but I do a lot of audio for radio
 programs,
 etc.  The person simply wanting to get records to MP3 and clean the
 files
 up to make them sound good may decide that they don't need all the
 features
 of Soundforge, and that they can good enough quality with Goldwave
 or
 Audasity or something else.



 - Original Message -
 From: Chuck Adkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 3:06 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 : Hello. I prefer Sound Forge because of the scrubbing features it
 has.
 I
 also
 : like the effects but don't get me wrong, Gold Wave is a very good
 program.
 : For me Sound forge is a little bit more accessible. Of course,
 Sound
 Forge
 : was the first editor I had experience with and that I think does
 color
 an
 : oppion sometimes. It's like finding a car though. You can find 6
 people
 who
 : like Fords and 6 people who like shevys. The best way

Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-25 Thread Rick Harmon
Hi,

Selecting start marker is with left bracket key and selecting finish marker 
is don with the right bracket key.  Moving them is done by using the Shift 
left and right cursor for the start marker and control shift right and left 
cursors for the finish marker.

Rick


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- Original Message - 
From: Chuck Adkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 4:13 PM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


I haven't been able to do it either. I haven't figured out how to mark begin
and end points, and then separate the selection I have marked. I was afraid
to ask because of some of these lists if you don't get a concept as fast as
some think you should, your put in a very very bad light.


- Original Message - 
From: Gary Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


I just have to get getter with moving the markers and fast forward rewind
 controls.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:13 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 Use fast forward and rewind for that sort of precision. I'm able to quite
 easily wind up with a selection that is no longer than a record pop.

 Bruce

 -- 
 Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
 gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV

 Bruce Toews
 E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net
 Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net
 Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com

 On Thu, 25 May 2006, Gary Schindler wrote:

 Hi Rick, I guess I am not good enough with Goldwave for getting big
 clicks
 from vinyl records that the click pop filter can't get. I have trouble
 manipulating the start finish markers I guess!

 - Original Message -
 From: Rick Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 11:12 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 Hi Gary,

 I can edit down to 1/100th of a second in goldwave.  How much more
 could
 you
 need?

 Rick


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 - Original Message -
 From: Gary Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 10:42 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 the only thing I wish that goldwave could do is to be a more precise or
 finer editor. you can't beat soundforges editing capabilities at any
 price.

 - Original Message -
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:29 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 Some people say, You get what you pay for!  But actually, you have
 to
 take
 a lot of things into consideration when purchasing a sound editor!
 What
 features and abilities you want with a sound editor, and also, what
 you
 can
 afford!
 - Original Message -
 From: Brian Olesen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 3:42 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 HI,
 But it's also pretty expensive.

 Best regards
 Brian
 - Original Message -
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:38 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 I think that from what I've heard so far, that Studio Recorder from
 APH
 is
 also quite a program!
 - Original Message -
 From: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 12:59 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 I think that the individual needs to take a look at each, decide
 what
 they
 really need to do, and after all that then make the decision on how
 much
 they are willing to pay to get the editor that will do what they
 need
 to
 do.  I really like SoundForge, but I do a lot of audio for radio
 programs,
 etc.  The person simply wanting to get records to MP3 and clean the
 files
 up to make them sound good may

Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-25 Thread Bruce Toews
You can also set start and finish markers with shift+e, thenenterin a 
precise time.

Bruce

-- 
Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV

Bruce Toews
E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net
Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net
Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com

On Thu, 25 May 2006, Rick Harmon wrote:

 Hi,

 Selecting start marker is with left bracket key and selecting finish marker
 is don with the right bracket key.  Moving them is done by using the Shift
 left and right cursor for the start marker and control shift right and left
 cursors for the finish marker.

 Rick


 ===

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 seeing people towards them.
 - Helen Keller, 1925



 - Original Message -
 From: Chuck Adkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 4:13 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 I haven't been able to do it either. I haven't figured out how to mark begin
 and end points, and then separate the selection I have marked. I was afraid
 to ask because of some of these lists if you don't get a concept as fast as
 some think you should, your put in a very very bad light.


 - Original Message -
 From: Gary Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:18 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 I just have to get getter with moving the markers and fast forward rewind
 controls.

 - Original Message -
 From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:13 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 Use fast forward and rewind for that sort of precision. I'm able to quite
 easily wind up with a selection that is no longer than a record pop.

 Bruce

 --
 Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
 gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV

 Bruce Toews
 E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net
 Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net
 Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com

 On Thu, 25 May 2006, Gary Schindler wrote:

 Hi Rick, I guess I am not good enough with Goldwave for getting big
 clicks
 from vinyl records that the click pop filter can't get. I have trouble
 manipulating the start finish markers I guess!

 - Original Message -
 From: Rick Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 11:12 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 Hi Gary,

 I can edit down to 1/100th of a second in goldwave.  How much more
 could
 you
 need?

 Rick


 ===

 Contact Information:

 Skype ID: rharmon928
 MSN ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 - Helen Keller, 1925



 - Original Message -
 From: Gary Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 10:42 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 the only thing I wish that goldwave could do is to be a more precise or
 finer editor. you can't beat soundforges editing capabilities at any
 price.

 - Original Message -
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:29 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 Some people say, You get what you pay for!  But actually, you have
 to
 take
 a lot of things into consideration when purchasing a sound editor!
 What
 features and abilities you want with a sound editor, and also, what
 you
 can
 afford!
 - Original Message -
 From: Brian Olesen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 3:42 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 HI,
 But it's also pretty expensive.

 Best regards
 Brian
 - Original Message -
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:38 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 I think that from what I've heard so far, that Studio Recorder from
 APH
 is
 also quite a program!
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 From: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio

Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-25 Thread Rick Harmon
Thanks,

I forgot to mention that.

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Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


You can also set start and finish markers with shift+e, thenenterin a
precise time.

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On Thu, 25 May 2006, Rick Harmon wrote:

 Hi,

 Selecting start marker is with left bracket key and selecting finish 
 marker
 is don with the right bracket key.  Moving them is done by using the Shift
 left and right cursor for the start marker and control shift right and 
 left
 cursors for the finish marker.

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 - Original Message -
 From: Chuck Adkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 4:13 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 I haven't been able to do it either. I haven't figured out how to mark 
 begin
 and end points, and then separate the selection I have marked. I was 
 afraid
 to ask because of some of these lists if you don't get a concept as fast 
 as
 some think you should, your put in a very very bad light.


 - Original Message -
 From: Gary Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:18 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 I just have to get getter with moving the markers and fast forward rewind
 controls.

 - Original Message -
 From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:13 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 Use fast forward and rewind for that sort of precision. I'm able to 
 quite
 easily wind up with a selection that is no longer than a record pop.

 Bruce

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 gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV

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 On Thu, 25 May 2006, Gary Schindler wrote:

 Hi Rick, I guess I am not good enough with Goldwave for getting big
 clicks
 from vinyl records that the click pop filter can't get. I have trouble
 manipulating the start finish markers I guess!

 - Original Message -
 From: Rick Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 11:12 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 Hi Gary,

 I can edit down to 1/100th of a second in goldwave.  How much more
 could
 you
 need?

 Rick


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 From: Gary Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 10:42 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 the only thing I wish that goldwave could do is to be a more precise 
 or
 finer editor. you can't beat soundforges editing capabilities at any
 price.

 - Original Message -
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:29 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 Some people say, You get what you pay for!  But actually, you have
 to
 take
 a lot of things into consideration when purchasing a sound editor!
 What
 features and abilities you want with a sound editor, and also, what
 you
 can
 afford!
 - Original Message -
 From: Brian Olesen [EMAIL

Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-25 Thread Jerry Richer
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RE: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-25 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi all, some interesting points in this thread. From my point of view, if
you're willing to invest in the tool that gets the job done most
efficiently, Sound Forge is so far ahead that Goldwave isn't even worth your
consideration. I say this because the reason Sound Forge became the leading
single track editor in the blind community is because of the way in which it
embraces standard Windows navigation and selection methods. So if you're a
competent user of word processors like MS word, and you understand how to
select text in regular Windows applications, your learning curve with Sound
Forge is minimised hugely. I would put Studio Recorder way ahead of Goldwave
and in some respects better than Sound Forge for certain tasks. For example,
the sound don sound feature in the latest Studio Recorder is incredibly easy
to use, yet powerful. It also attempts where possible to adhere to Windows
standards. It's special accessibility features make it worthy of serious
consideration, particularly if you don't require lots of special affects.

For those constrained by limited time, selecting and manipulating sound in
Sound Forge or Studio Recorder is vastly more efficient than Goldwave is.

If money is a consideration, I would still recommend Sound Forge's cut down
version because of the superior adherence to Windows conventions, although
Goldwave is definitely more feature rich than this version of Sound Forge.
If you're not serious about sound editing and want something to play with,
maybe Goldwave is sufficient. Sound Forge is used in many professional
environments for a good reason. It's powerful. Perhaps it provides more
power than some people need, but really, there's no comparison in terms of
functionality and ease of use, and you may find yourself gaining more
experience and find Goldwave constraining. So depending on your needs, I'd
say Sound Forge and Studio Recorder are in a class of their own. Goldwave is
in a different class.

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Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-25 Thread Doc
also you can change the amount of movement by presssing shift+up arrow to
decrease and shift+down arrow  to increase
- Original Message -
From: Rick Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


Hi,

Selecting start marker is with left bracket key and selecting finish marker
is don with the right bracket key.  Moving them is done by using the Shift
left and right cursor for the start marker and control shift right and left
cursors for the finish marker.

Rick


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- Original Message -
From: Chuck Adkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 4:13 PM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


I haven't been able to do it either. I haven't figured out how to mark begin
and end points, and then separate the selection I have marked. I was afraid
to ask because of some of these lists if you don't get a concept as fast as
some think you should, your put in a very very bad light.


- Original Message -
From: Gary Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


I just have to get getter with moving the markers and fast forward rewind
 controls.

 - Original Message -
 From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:13 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 Use fast forward and rewind for that sort of precision. I'm able to quite
 easily wind up with a selection that is no longer than a record pop.

 Bruce

 --
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 gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV

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 On Thu, 25 May 2006, Gary Schindler wrote:

 Hi Rick, I guess I am not good enough with Goldwave for getting big
 clicks
 from vinyl records that the click pop filter can't get. I have trouble
 manipulating the start finish markers I guess!

 - Original Message -
 From: Rick Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 11:12 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 Hi Gary,

 I can edit down to 1/100th of a second in goldwave.  How much more
 could
 you
 need?

 Rick


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 - Original Message -
 From: Gary Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 10:42 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 the only thing I wish that goldwave could do is to be a more precise or
 finer editor. you can't beat soundforges editing capabilities at any
 price.

 - Original Message -
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:29 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 Some people say, You get what you pay for!  But actually, you have
 to
 take
 a lot of things into consideration when purchasing a sound editor!
 What
 features and abilities you want with a sound editor, and also, what
 you
 can
 afford!
 - Original Message -
 From: Brian Olesen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 3:42 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 HI,
 But it's also pretty expensive.

 Best regards
 Brian
 - Original Message -
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:38 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 I think that from what I've heard so far, that Studio Recorder from
 APH
 is
 also quite a program!
 - Original Message -
 From: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 12:59 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 I think that the individual needs to take a look at each, decide
 what
 they
 really need to do, and after all

RE: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-25 Thread Bruce Toews
I disagree strongly with your contention that Gold Wave can't be 
considered for serious sound editing. It has beenby many, and still is by 
many. I do all my audio editing with Gold Wave, and while I'm no 
professional recording studio, I'm no slouch at the concept either, and 
there are people who are much more professional than I with recording who 
will agree. I'm not denying the superiority of Sound Forge as a sound 
editor, but if you're comfortable with Gold Wave's interface, as I am, 
then the power is there.

bruce

-- 
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gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV

Bruce Toews
E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Thu, 25 May 2006, Jonathan Mosen wrote:

 Hi all, some interesting points in this thread. From my point of view, if
 you're willing to invest in the tool that gets the job done most
 efficiently, Sound Forge is so far ahead that Goldwave isn't even worth your
 consideration. I say this because the reason Sound Forge became the leading
 single track editor in the blind community is because of the way in which it
 embraces standard Windows navigation and selection methods. So if you're a
 competent user of word processors like MS word, and you understand how to
 select text in regular Windows applications, your learning curve with Sound
 Forge is minimised hugely. I would put Studio Recorder way ahead of Goldwave
 and in some respects better than Sound Forge for certain tasks. For example,
 the sound don sound feature in the latest Studio Recorder is incredibly easy
 to use, yet powerful. It also attempts where possible to adhere to Windows
 standards. It's special accessibility features make it worthy of serious
 consideration, particularly if you don't require lots of special affects.

 For those constrained by limited time, selecting and manipulating sound in
 Sound Forge or Studio Recorder is vastly more efficient than Goldwave is.

 If money is a consideration, I would still recommend Sound Forge's cut down
 version because of the superior adherence to Windows conventions, although
 Goldwave is definitely more feature rich than this version of Sound Forge.
 If you're not serious about sound editing and want something to play with,
 maybe Goldwave is sufficient. Sound Forge is used in many professional
 environments for a good reason. It's powerful. Perhaps it provides more
 power than some people need, but really, there's no comparison in terms of
 functionality and ease of use, and you may find yourself gaining more
 experience and find Goldwave constraining. So depending on your needs, I'd
 say Sound Forge and Studio Recorder are in a class of their own. Goldwave is
 in a different class.

 The Minx, the Internet radio station that plays all the great love songs.

 http://www.the-minx.com
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Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-25 Thread Nick G
Please note, the following message contains one descriptive udderance of 
profanity.


I'd personally rather use Audacity over gold wave, and Audacity's some what 
of a bitch.  What does that say about Gold wave?  Plus, audacity is free.
Thanks,
Nick
- Original Message - 
From: Jonathan Mosen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 5:07 PM
Subject: RE: gold wave vs sound forge


 Hi all, some interesting points in this thread. From my point of view, if
 you're willing to invest in the tool that gets the job done most
 efficiently, Sound Forge is so far ahead that Goldwave isn't even worth 
 your
 consideration. I say this because the reason Sound Forge became the 
 leading
 single track editor in the blind community is because of the way in which 
 it
 embraces standard Windows navigation and selection methods. So if you're a
 competent user of word processors like MS word, and you understand how to
 select text in regular Windows applications, your learning curve with 
 Sound
 Forge is minimised hugely. I would put Studio Recorder way ahead of 
 Goldwave
 and in some respects better than Sound Forge for certain tasks. For 
 example,
 the sound don sound feature in the latest Studio Recorder is incredibly 
 easy
 to use, yet powerful. It also attempts where possible to adhere to Windows
 standards. It's special accessibility features make it worthy of serious
 consideration, particularly if you don't require lots of special affects.

 For those constrained by limited time, selecting and manipulating sound in
 Sound Forge or Studio Recorder is vastly more efficient than Goldwave is.

 If money is a consideration, I would still recommend Sound Forge's cut 
 down
 version because of the superior adherence to Windows conventions, although
 Goldwave is definitely more feature rich than this version of Sound Forge.
 If you're not serious about sound editing and want something to play with,
 maybe Goldwave is sufficient. Sound Forge is used in many professional
 environments for a good reason. It's powerful. Perhaps it provides more
 power than some people need, but really, there's no comparison in terms of
 functionality and ease of use, and you may find yourself gaining more
 experience and find Goldwave constraining. So depending on your needs, I'd
 say Sound Forge and Studio Recorder are in a class of their own. Goldwave 
 is
 in a different class.

 The Minx, the Internet radio station that plays all the great love songs.

 http://www.the-minx.com
 Jonathan Mosen
 Blog, podcast and radio show: http://www.MosenExplosion.com
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Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-25 Thread Rick Harmon
I'd have to respectfully agree with Bruce here.  Goldwave is an excellent 
program if you know how to use it correctly.  It not be SF but then again I 
am not trying to make money using it either.  A lot of us can't afford $250 
for SF and its kind of unfair to paint goldwave the way you have for the 
general users out there that are not trying to make a living using it.

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- Original Message - 
From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 5:17 PM
Subject: RE: gold wave vs sound forge


I disagree strongly with your contention that Gold Wave can't be
considered for serious sound editing. It has beenby many, and still is by
many. I do all my audio editing with Gold Wave, and while I'm no
professional recording studio, I'm no slouch at the concept either, and
there are people who are much more professional than I with recording who
will agree. I'm not denying the superiority of Sound Forge as a sound
editor, but if you're comfortable with Gold Wave's interface, as I am,
then the power is there.

bruce

-- 
Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV

Bruce Toews
E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net
Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net
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On Thu, 25 May 2006, Jonathan Mosen wrote:

 Hi all, some interesting points in this thread. From my point of view, if
 you're willing to invest in the tool that gets the job done most
 efficiently, Sound Forge is so far ahead that Goldwave isn't even worth 
 your
 consideration. I say this because the reason Sound Forge became the 
 leading
 single track editor in the blind community is because of the way in which 
 it
 embraces standard Windows navigation and selection methods. So if you're a
 competent user of word processors like MS word, and you understand how to
 select text in regular Windows applications, your learning curve with 
 Sound
 Forge is minimised hugely. I would put Studio Recorder way ahead of 
 Goldwave
 and in some respects better than Sound Forge for certain tasks. For 
 example,
 the sound don sound feature in the latest Studio Recorder is incredibly 
 easy
 to use, yet powerful. It also attempts where possible to adhere to Windows
 standards. It's special accessibility features make it worthy of serious
 consideration, particularly if you don't require lots of special affects.

 For those constrained by limited time, selecting and manipulating sound in
 Sound Forge or Studio Recorder is vastly more efficient than Goldwave is.

 If money is a consideration, I would still recommend Sound Forge's cut 
 down
 version because of the superior adherence to Windows conventions, although
 Goldwave is definitely more feature rich than this version of Sound Forge.
 If you're not serious about sound editing and want something to play with,
 maybe Goldwave is sufficient. Sound Forge is used in many professional
 environments for a good reason. It's powerful. Perhaps it provides more
 power than some people need, but really, there's no comparison in terms of
 functionality and ease of use, and you may find yourself gaining more
 experience and find Goldwave constraining. So depending on your needs, I'd
 say Sound Forge and Studio Recorder are in a class of their own. Goldwave 
 is
 in a different class.

 The Minx, the Internet radio station that plays all the great love songs.

 http://www.the-minx.com
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RE: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-25 Thread Bruce Toews
I would accept your challenge, Jonathan.

Bruce

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On Thu, 25 May 2006, Jonathan Mosen wrote:

 Hi Dennis, this is all fine and not disputed. However I would challenge the
 most experienced blind Goldwave user to perform a series of common tasks
 used in sound editing, because I know which product would complete them
 first. No big deal if you're just doing this as a hobby, but if you're more
 serious than that, time is money.

 The Minx, the Internet radio station that plays all the great love songs.

 http://www.the-minx.com
 Jonathan Mosen
 Blog, podcast and radio show: http://www.MosenExplosion.com
 Ph: +1-925-566-9265.
 Mobile/SMS +1-806-252-6671


 -Original Message-
 From: dennis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, 25 May 2006 4:22 p.m.
 To: PC audio discussion list.
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 I AGREE WITH THAT. I DO A LOT OF WORK FOR ESPN HERE AND USE GOLDWAVE FOR
 EVERYTHING. ALSO DO A LOT OF RECORDING AND EDITTING FOR A COUPLE BANDS THAT
 I'M IN AND ALSO USE GOLDWAVE FOR THAT. VERY CONFORTABLE WITH IT. THE MENUES
 ARE COMPLETELY EASY TO USE AND YOU DON'T EVEN NEED SCRIPTS AT ALL TO WORK
 WITH IT.
 - Original Message -
 From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 4:17 PM
 Subject: RE: gold wave vs sound forge


 I disagree strongly with your contention that Gold Wave can't be
 considered for serious sound editing. It has beenby many, and still is
 by  many. I do all my audio editing with Gold Wave, and while I'm no
 professional recording studio, I'm no slouch at the concept either, and
 there are people who are much more professional than I with recording
 who  will agree. I'm not denying the superiority of Sound Forge as a
 sound  editor, but if you're comfortable with Gold Wave's interface, as
 I am,  then the power is there.

 bruce

 --
 Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
 gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV

 Bruce Toews
 E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net
 Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
 http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time:
 http://www.cornergas.com

 On Thu, 25 May 2006, Jonathan Mosen wrote:

 Hi all, some interesting points in this thread. From my point of
 view, if you're willing to invest in the tool that gets the job done
 most efficiently, Sound Forge is so far ahead that Goldwave isn't
 even worth your consideration. I say this because the reason Sound
 Forge became the leading
 single track editor in the blind community is because of the way in which

 it
 embraces standard Windows navigation and selection methods. So if you're
 a
 competent user of word processors like MS word, and you understand how to
 select text in regular Windows applications, your learning curve with
 Sound
 Forge is minimised hugely. I would put Studio Recorder way ahead of
 Goldwave
 and in some respects better than Sound Forge for certain tasks. For
 example,
 the sound don sound feature in the latest Studio Recorder is incredibly
 easy
 to use, yet powerful. It also attempts where possible to adhere to
 Windows
 standards. It's special accessibility features make it worthy of serious
 consideration, particularly if you don't require lots of special affects.

 For those constrained by limited time, selecting and manipulating
 sound
 in
 Sound Forge or Studio Recorder is vastly more efficient than Goldwave is.

 If money is a consideration, I would still recommend Sound Forge's
 cut
 down
 version because of the superior adherence to Windows conventions,
 although
 Goldwave is definitely more feature rich than this version of Sound
 Forge.
 If you're not serious about sound editing and want something to play
 with,
 maybe Goldwave is sufficient. Sound Forge is used in many professional
 environments for a good reason. It's powerful. Perhaps it provides more
 power than some people need, but really, there's no comparison in terms
 of
 functionality and ease of use, and you may find yourself gaining more
 experience and find Goldwave constraining. So depending on your needs,
 I'd
 say Sound Forge and Studio Recorder are in a class of their own. Goldwave

 is
 in a different class.

 The Minx, the Internet radio station that plays all the great love
 songs.

 http://www.the-minx.com
 Jonathan Mosen
 Blog, podcast and radio show: http://www.MosenExplosion.com
 Ph: +1-925-566-9265.
 Mobile/SMS +1-806-252-6671


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Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-25 Thread dennis
SAME HERE.
- Original Message - 
From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 4:30 PM
Subject: RE: gold wave vs sound forge


I would accept your challenge, Jonathan.

 Bruce

 -- 
 Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
 gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV

 Bruce Toews
 E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net
 Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net
 Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com

 On Thu, 25 May 2006, Jonathan Mosen wrote:

 Hi Dennis, this is all fine and not disputed. However I would challenge 
 the
 most experienced blind Goldwave user to perform a series of common tasks
 used in sound editing, because I know which product would complete them
 first. No big deal if you're just doing this as a hobby, but if you're 
 more
 serious than that, time is money.

 The Minx, the Internet radio station that plays all the great love songs.

 http://www.the-minx.com
 Jonathan Mosen
 Blog, podcast and radio show: http://www.MosenExplosion.com
 Ph: +1-925-566-9265.
 Mobile/SMS +1-806-252-6671


 -Original Message-
 From: dennis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, 25 May 2006 4:22 p.m.
 To: PC audio discussion list.
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 I AGREE WITH THAT. I DO A LOT OF WORK FOR ESPN HERE AND USE GOLDWAVE FOR
 EVERYTHING. ALSO DO A LOT OF RECORDING AND EDITTING FOR A COUPLE BANDS 
 THAT
 I'M IN AND ALSO USE GOLDWAVE FOR THAT. VERY CONFORTABLE WITH IT. THE 
 MENUES
 ARE COMPLETELY EASY TO USE AND YOU DON'T EVEN NEED SCRIPTS AT ALL TO WORK
 WITH IT.
 - Original Message -
 From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 4:17 PM
 Subject: RE: gold wave vs sound forge


 I disagree strongly with your contention that Gold Wave can't be
 considered for serious sound editing. It has beenby many, and still is
 by  many. I do all my audio editing with Gold Wave, and while I'm no
 professional recording studio, I'm no slouch at the concept either, and
 there are people who are much more professional than I with recording
 who  will agree. I'm not denying the superiority of Sound Forge as a
 sound  editor, but if you're comfortable with Gold Wave's interface, as
 I am,  then the power is there.

 bruce

 --
 Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
 gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV

 Bruce Toews
 E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net
 Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
 http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time:
 http://www.cornergas.com

 On Thu, 25 May 2006, Jonathan Mosen wrote:

 Hi all, some interesting points in this thread. From my point of
 view, if you're willing to invest in the tool that gets the job done
 most efficiently, Sound Forge is so far ahead that Goldwave isn't
 even worth your consideration. I say this because the reason Sound
 Forge became the leading
 single track editor in the blind community is because of the way in 
 which

 it
 embraces standard Windows navigation and selection methods. So if 
 you're
 a
 competent user of word processors like MS word, and you understand how 
 to
 select text in regular Windows applications, your learning curve with
 Sound
 Forge is minimised hugely. I would put Studio Recorder way ahead of
 Goldwave
 and in some respects better than Sound Forge for certain tasks. For
 example,
 the sound don sound feature in the latest Studio Recorder is incredibly
 easy
 to use, yet powerful. It also attempts where possible to adhere to
 Windows
 standards. It's special accessibility features make it worthy of 
 serious
 consideration, particularly if you don't require lots of special 
 affects.

 For those constrained by limited time, selecting and manipulating
 sound
 in
 Sound Forge or Studio Recorder is vastly more efficient than Goldwave 
 is.

 If money is a consideration, I would still recommend Sound Forge's
 cut
 down
 version because of the superior adherence to Windows conventions,
 although
 Goldwave is definitely more feature rich than this version of Sound
 Forge.
 If you're not serious about sound editing and want something to play
 with,
 maybe Goldwave is sufficient. Sound Forge is used in many professional
 environments for a good reason. It's powerful. Perhaps it provides more
 power than some people need, but really, there's no comparison in terms
 of
 functionality and ease of use, and you may find yourself gaining more
 experience and find Goldwave constraining. So depending on your needs,
 I'd
 say Sound Forge and Studio Recorder are in a class of their own. 
 Goldwave

 is
 in a different class.

 The Minx, the Internet radio station that plays all the great

Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-25 Thread dennis
WHAT KIND OF COMMEN TASKS.
- Original Message - 
From: Jonathan Mosen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 4:28 PM
Subject: RE: gold wave vs sound forge


 Hi Dennis, this is all fine and not disputed. However I would challenge 
 the
 most experienced blind Goldwave user to perform a series of common tasks
 used in sound editing, because I know which product would complete them
 first. No big deal if you're just doing this as a hobby, but if you're 
 more
 serious than that, time is money.

 The Minx, the Internet radio station that plays all the great love songs.

 http://www.the-minx.com
 Jonathan Mosen
 Blog, podcast and radio show: http://www.MosenExplosion.com
 Ph: +1-925-566-9265.
 Mobile/SMS +1-806-252-6671


 -Original Message-
 From: dennis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, 25 May 2006 4:22 p.m.
 To: PC audio discussion list.
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 I AGREE WITH THAT. I DO A LOT OF WORK FOR ESPN HERE AND USE GOLDWAVE FOR
 EVERYTHING. ALSO DO A LOT OF RECORDING AND EDITTING FOR A COUPLE BANDS 
 THAT
 I'M IN AND ALSO USE GOLDWAVE FOR THAT. VERY CONFORTABLE WITH IT. THE 
 MENUES
 ARE COMPLETELY EASY TO USE AND YOU DON'T EVEN NEED SCRIPTS AT ALL TO WORK
 WITH IT.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 4:17 PM
 Subject: RE: gold wave vs sound forge


I disagree strongly with your contention that Gold Wave can't be
considered for serious sound editing. It has beenby many, and still is
by  many. I do all my audio editing with Gold Wave, and while I'm no
professional recording studio, I'm no slouch at the concept either, and
there are people who are much more professional than I with recording
who  will agree. I'm not denying the superiority of Sound Forge as a
sound  editor, but if you're comfortable with Gold Wave's interface, as
I am,  then the power is there.

 bruce

 --
 Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
 gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV

 Bruce Toews
 E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net
 Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
 http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time:
 http://www.cornergas.com

 On Thu, 25 May 2006, Jonathan Mosen wrote:

 Hi all, some interesting points in this thread. From my point of
 view, if you're willing to invest in the tool that gets the job done
 most efficiently, Sound Forge is so far ahead that Goldwave isn't
 even worth your consideration. I say this because the reason Sound
 Forge became the leading
 single track editor in the blind community is because of the way in 
 which

 it
 embraces standard Windows navigation and selection methods. So if you're
 a
 competent user of word processors like MS word, and you understand how 
 to
 select text in regular Windows applications, your learning curve with
 Sound
 Forge is minimised hugely. I would put Studio Recorder way ahead of
 Goldwave
 and in some respects better than Sound Forge for certain tasks. For
 example,
 the sound don sound feature in the latest Studio Recorder is incredibly
 easy
 to use, yet powerful. It also attempts where possible to adhere to
 Windows
 standards. It's special accessibility features make it worthy of serious
 consideration, particularly if you don't require lots of special 
 affects.

 For those constrained by limited time, selecting and manipulating
 sound
 in
 Sound Forge or Studio Recorder is vastly more efficient than Goldwave 
 is.

 If money is a consideration, I would still recommend Sound Forge's
 cut
 down
 version because of the superior adherence to Windows conventions,
 although
 Goldwave is definitely more feature rich than this version of Sound
 Forge.
 If you're not serious about sound editing and want something to play
 with,
 maybe Goldwave is sufficient. Sound Forge is used in many professional
 environments for a good reason. It's powerful. Perhaps it provides more
 power than some people need, but really, there's no comparison in terms
 of
 functionality and ease of use, and you may find yourself gaining more
 experience and find Goldwave constraining. So depending on your needs,
 I'd
 say Sound Forge and Studio Recorder are in a class of their own. 
 Goldwave

 is
 in a different class.

 The Minx, the Internet radio station that plays all the great love
 songs.

 http://www.the-minx.com
 Jonathan Mosen
 Blog, podcast and radio show: http://www.MosenExplosion.com
 Ph: +1-925-566-9265.
 Mobile/SMS +1-806-252-6671


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Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-25 Thread Doc
John what is your opinion that some feel that SF is more memory intensive
than Goldwave?
- Original Message -
From: Jonathan Mosen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 3:28 PM
Subject: RE: gold wave vs sound forge


Hi Dennis, this is all fine and not disputed. However I would challenge the
most experienced blind Goldwave user to perform a series of common tasks
used in sound editing, because I know which product would complete them
first. No big deal if you're just doing this as a hobby, but if you're more
serious than that, time is money.

The Minx, the Internet radio station that plays all the great love songs.

http://www.the-minx.com
Jonathan Mosen
Blog, podcast and radio show: http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Ph: +1-925-566-9265.
Mobile/SMS +1-806-252-6671


-Original Message-
From: dennis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 25 May 2006 4:22 p.m.
To: PC audio discussion list.
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


I AGREE WITH THAT. I DO A LOT OF WORK FOR ESPN HERE AND USE GOLDWAVE FOR
EVERYTHING. ALSO DO A LOT OF RECORDING AND EDITTING FOR A COUPLE BANDS THAT
I'M IN AND ALSO USE GOLDWAVE FOR THAT. VERY CONFORTABLE WITH IT. THE MENUES
ARE COMPLETELY EASY TO USE AND YOU DON'T EVEN NEED SCRIPTS AT ALL TO WORK
WITH IT.
- Original Message -
From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 4:17 PM
Subject: RE: gold wave vs sound forge


I disagree strongly with your contention that Gold Wave can't be
considered for serious sound editing. It has beenby many, and still is
by  many. I do all my audio editing with Gold Wave, and while I'm no
professional recording studio, I'm no slouch at the concept either, and
there are people who are much more professional than I with recording
who  will agree. I'm not denying the superiority of Sound Forge as a
sound  editor, but if you're comfortable with Gold Wave's interface, as
I am,  then the power is there.

 bruce

 --
 Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
 gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV

 Bruce Toews
 E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net
 Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
 http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time:
 http://www.cornergas.com

 On Thu, 25 May 2006, Jonathan Mosen wrote:

 Hi all, some interesting points in this thread. From my point of
 view, if you're willing to invest in the tool that gets the job done
 most efficiently, Sound Forge is so far ahead that Goldwave isn't
 even worth your consideration. I say this because the reason Sound
 Forge became the leading
 single track editor in the blind community is because of the way in which

 it
 embraces standard Windows navigation and selection methods. So if you're
 a
 competent user of word processors like MS word, and you understand how to
 select text in regular Windows applications, your learning curve with
 Sound
 Forge is minimised hugely. I would put Studio Recorder way ahead of
 Goldwave
 and in some respects better than Sound Forge for certain tasks. For
 example,
 the sound don sound feature in the latest Studio Recorder is incredibly
 easy
 to use, yet powerful. It also attempts where possible to adhere to
 Windows
 standards. It's special accessibility features make it worthy of serious
 consideration, particularly if you don't require lots of special affects.

 For those constrained by limited time, selecting and manipulating
 sound
 in
 Sound Forge or Studio Recorder is vastly more efficient than Goldwave is.

 If money is a consideration, I would still recommend Sound Forge's
 cut
 down
 version because of the superior adherence to Windows conventions,
 although
 Goldwave is definitely more feature rich than this version of Sound
 Forge.
 If you're not serious about sound editing and want something to play
 with,
 maybe Goldwave is sufficient. Sound Forge is used in many professional
 environments for a good reason. It's powerful. Perhaps it provides more
 power than some people need, but really, there's no comparison in terms
 of
 functionality and ease of use, and you may find yourself gaining more
 experience and find Goldwave constraining. So depending on your needs,
 I'd
 say Sound Forge and Studio Recorder are in a class of their own. Goldwave

 is
 in a different class.

 The Minx, the Internet radio station that plays all the great love
 songs.

 http://www.the-minx.com
 Jonathan Mosen
 Blog, podcast and radio show: http://www.MosenExplosion.com
 Ph: +1-925-566-9265.
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RE: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-25 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi Doc, I would absolutely agree with this. Sound Forge does require more
grunt. Studio Recorder is extremely snappy, even on quite slow machines, and
Goldwave is better than Sound Forge in terms of its responsiveness on such
machines as well.

The Minx, the Internet radio station that plays all the great love songs. 

http://www.the-minx.com
Jonathan Mosen
Blog, podcast and radio show: http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Ph: +1-925-566-9265.
Mobile/SMS +1-806-252-6671


-Original Message-
From: Doc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, 25 May 2006 4:43 p.m.
To: PC audio discussion list. 
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


John what is your opinion that some feel that SF is more memory intensive
than Goldwave?
- Original Message -
From: Jonathan Mosen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 3:28 PM
Subject: RE: gold wave vs sound forge


Hi Dennis, this is all fine and not disputed. However I would challenge the
most experienced blind Goldwave user to perform a series of common tasks
used in sound editing, because I know which product would complete them
first. No big deal if you're just doing this as a hobby, but if you're more
serious than that, time is money.

The Minx, the Internet radio station that plays all the great love songs.

http://www.the-minx.com
Jonathan Mosen
Blog, podcast and radio show: http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Ph: +1-925-566-9265.
Mobile/SMS +1-806-252-6671


-Original Message-
From: dennis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 25 May 2006 4:22 p.m.
To: PC audio discussion list.
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


I AGREE WITH THAT. I DO A LOT OF WORK FOR ESPN HERE AND USE GOLDWAVE FOR
EVERYTHING. ALSO DO A LOT OF RECORDING AND EDITTING FOR A COUPLE BANDS THAT
I'M IN AND ALSO USE GOLDWAVE FOR THAT. VERY CONFORTABLE WITH IT. THE MENUES
ARE COMPLETELY EASY TO USE AND YOU DON'T EVEN NEED SCRIPTS AT ALL TO WORK
WITH IT.
- Original Message -
From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 4:17 PM
Subject: RE: gold wave vs sound forge


I disagree strongly with your contention that Gold Wave can't be 
considered for serious sound editing. It has beenby many, and still is 
by  many. I do all my audio editing with Gold Wave, and while I'm no 
professional recording studio, I'm no slouch at the concept either, and 
there are people who are much more professional than I with recording 
who  will agree. I'm not denying the superiority of Sound Forge as a 
sound  editor, but if you're comfortable with Gold Wave's interface, as 
I am,  then the power is there.

 bruce

 --
 Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he 
 gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV

 Bruce Toews
 E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net
 Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): 
 http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: 
 http://www.cornergas.com

 On Thu, 25 May 2006, Jonathan Mosen wrote:

 Hi all, some interesting points in this thread. From my point of 
 view, if you're willing to invest in the tool that gets the job done 
 most efficiently, Sound Forge is so far ahead that Goldwave isn't 
 even worth your consideration. I say this because the reason Sound 
 Forge became the leading single track editor in the blind community 
 is because of the way in which

 it
 embraces standard Windows navigation and selection methods. So if 
 you're a competent user of word processors like MS word, and you 
 understand how to select text in regular Windows applications, your 
 learning curve with Sound
 Forge is minimised hugely. I would put Studio Recorder way ahead of
 Goldwave
 and in some respects better than Sound Forge for certain tasks. For
 example,
 the sound don sound feature in the latest Studio Recorder is incredibly
 easy
 to use, yet powerful. It also attempts where possible to adhere to
 Windows
 standards. It's special accessibility features make it worthy of serious
 consideration, particularly if you don't require lots of special affects.

 For those constrained by limited time, selecting and manipulating 
 sound in
 Sound Forge or Studio Recorder is vastly more efficient than Goldwave is.

 If money is a consideration, I would still recommend Sound Forge's 
 cut down
 version because of the superior adherence to Windows conventions,
 although
 Goldwave is definitely more feature rich than this version of Sound
 Forge.
 If you're not serious about sound editing and want something to play
 with,
 maybe Goldwave is sufficient. Sound Forge is used in many professional
 environments for a good reason. It's powerful. Perhaps it provides more
 power than some people need, but really, there's no comparison in terms
 of
 functionality and ease of use, and you may find yourself gaining more
 experience and find Goldwave

Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-25 Thread Mac Norins
But, if we are not comfortable with Goldwave and we are comfortable with 
Soundforge, then exploring another new way to go, such as Gold Wave,seems, 
frankly, like an exercise in futility!  Not to extend this thread, by any 
means (groan)!

-Mac-
- Original Message - 
From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:17 PM
Subject: RE: gold wave vs sound forge


I disagree strongly with your contention that Gold Wave can't be
considered for serious sound editing. It has beenby many, and still is by
many. I do all my audio editing with Gold Wave, and while I'm no
professional recording studio, I'm no slouch at the concept either, and
there are people who are much more professional than I with recording who
will agree. I'm not denying the superiority of Sound Forge as a sound
editor, but if you're comfortable with Gold Wave's interface, as I am,
then the power is there.

bruce

-- 
Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV

Bruce Toews
E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net
Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net
Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com

On Thu, 25 May 2006, Jonathan Mosen wrote:

 Hi all, some interesting points in this thread. From my point of view, if
 you're willing to invest in the tool that gets the job done most
 efficiently, Sound Forge is so far ahead that Goldwave isn't even worth 
 your
 consideration. I say this because the reason Sound Forge became the 
 leading
 single track editor in the blind community is because of the way in which 
 it
 embraces standard Windows navigation and selection methods. So if you're a
 competent user of word processors like MS word, and you understand how to
 select text in regular Windows applications, your learning curve with 
 Sound
 Forge is minimised hugely. I would put Studio Recorder way ahead of 
 Goldwave
 and in some respects better than Sound Forge for certain tasks. For 
 example,
 the sound don sound feature in the latest Studio Recorder is incredibly 
 easy
 to use, yet powerful. It also attempts where possible to adhere to Windows
 standards. It's special accessibility features make it worthy of serious
 consideration, particularly if you don't require lots of special affects.

 For those constrained by limited time, selecting and manipulating sound in
 Sound Forge or Studio Recorder is vastly more efficient than Goldwave is.

 If money is a consideration, I would still recommend Sound Forge's cut 
 down
 version because of the superior adherence to Windows conventions, although
 Goldwave is definitely more feature rich than this version of Sound Forge.
 If you're not serious about sound editing and want something to play with,
 maybe Goldwave is sufficient. Sound Forge is used in many professional
 environments for a good reason. It's powerful. Perhaps it provides more
 power than some people need, but really, there's no comparison in terms of
 functionality and ease of use, and you may find yourself gaining more
 experience and find Goldwave constraining. So depending on your needs, I'd
 say Sound Forge and Studio Recorder are in a class of their own. Goldwave 
 is
 in a different class.

 The Minx, the Internet radio station that plays all the great love songs.

 http://www.the-minx.com
 Jonathan Mosen
 Blog, podcast and radio show: http://www.MosenExplosion.com
 Ph: +1-925-566-9265.
 Mobile/SMS +1-806-252-6671


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Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-25 Thread Brian Olesen
Hi Jonathan,
Have you ran all the optimizations Sony suggests in their manual for Sound 
Forge? There are quite a few of them actually.

best Regards
Brian
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Subject: RE: gold wave vs sound forge


 Hi Doc, I would absolutely agree with this. Sound Forge does require more
 grunt. Studio Recorder is extremely snappy, even on quite slow machines, 
 and
 Goldwave is better than Sound Forge in terms of its responsiveness on such
 machines as well.

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 -Original Message-
 From: Doc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, 25 May 2006 4:43 p.m.
 To: PC audio discussion list.
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 John what is your opinion that some feel that SF is more memory intensive
 than Goldwave?
 - Original Message -
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 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 3:28 PM
 Subject: RE: gold wave vs sound forge


 Hi Dennis, this is all fine and not disputed. However I would challenge 
 the
 most experienced blind Goldwave user to perform a series of common tasks
 used in sound editing, because I know which product would complete them
 first. No big deal if you're just doing this as a hobby, but if you're 
 more
 serious than that, time is money.

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 -Original Message-
 From: dennis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, 25 May 2006 4:22 p.m.
 To: PC audio discussion list.
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 I AGREE WITH THAT. I DO A LOT OF WORK FOR ESPN HERE AND USE GOLDWAVE FOR
 EVERYTHING. ALSO DO A LOT OF RECORDING AND EDITTING FOR A COUPLE BANDS 
 THAT
 I'M IN AND ALSO USE GOLDWAVE FOR THAT. VERY CONFORTABLE WITH IT. THE 
 MENUES
 ARE COMPLETELY EASY TO USE AND YOU DON'T EVEN NEED SCRIPTS AT ALL TO WORK
 WITH IT.
 - Original Message -
 From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 4:17 PM
 Subject: RE: gold wave vs sound forge


I disagree strongly with your contention that Gold Wave can't be
considered for serious sound editing. It has beenby many, and still is
by  many. I do all my audio editing with Gold Wave, and while I'm no
professional recording studio, I'm no slouch at the concept either, and
there are people who are much more professional than I with recording
who  will agree. I'm not denying the superiority of Sound Forge as a
sound  editor, but if you're comfortable with Gold Wave's interface, as
I am,  then the power is there.

 bruce

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 On Thu, 25 May 2006, Jonathan Mosen wrote:

 Hi all, some interesting points in this thread. From my point of
 view, if you're willing to invest in the tool that gets the job done
 most efficiently, Sound Forge is so far ahead that Goldwave isn't
 even worth your consideration. I say this because the reason Sound
 Forge became the leading single track editor in the blind community
 is because of the way in which

 it
 embraces standard Windows navigation and selection methods. So if
 you're a competent user of word processors like MS word, and you
 understand how to select text in regular Windows applications, your
 learning curve with Sound
 Forge is minimised hugely. I would put Studio Recorder way ahead of
 Goldwave
 and in some respects better than Sound Forge for certain tasks. For
 example,
 the sound don sound feature in the latest Studio Recorder is incredibly
 easy
 to use, yet powerful. It also attempts where possible to adhere to
 Windows
 standards. It's special accessibility features make it worthy of serious
 consideration, particularly if you don't require lots of special 
 affects.

 For those constrained by limited time, selecting and manipulating
 sound in
 Sound Forge or Studio Recorder is vastly more efficient than Goldwave 
 is.

 If money is a consideration, I would still recommend Sound Forge's
 cut down
 version because of the superior adherence to Windows conventions,
 although
 Goldwave is definitely more feature rich than this version of Sound
 Forge

Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-25 Thread Jim Noseworthy
Jonathan:

And just what are these tasks?

s
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From: Jonathan Mosen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 6:28 PM
Subject: RE: gold wave vs sound forge


 Hi Dennis, this is all fine and not disputed. However I would challenge 
 the
 most experienced blind Goldwave user to perform a series of common tasks
 used in sound editing, because I know which product would complete them
 first. No big deal if you're just doing this as a hobby, but if you're 
 more
 serious than that, time is money.

 The Minx, the Internet radio station that plays all the great love songs.

 http://www.the-minx.com
 Jonathan Mosen
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 Ph: +1-925-566-9265.
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 -Original Message-
 From: dennis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, 25 May 2006 4:22 p.m.
 To: PC audio discussion list.
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 I AGREE WITH THAT. I DO A LOT OF WORK FOR ESPN HERE AND USE GOLDWAVE FOR
 EVERYTHING. ALSO DO A LOT OF RECORDING AND EDITTING FOR A COUPLE BANDS 
 THAT
 I'M IN AND ALSO USE GOLDWAVE FOR THAT. VERY CONFORTABLE WITH IT. THE 
 MENUES
 ARE COMPLETELY EASY TO USE AND YOU DON'T EVEN NEED SCRIPTS AT ALL TO WORK
 WITH IT.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 4:17 PM
 Subject: RE: gold wave vs sound forge


I disagree strongly with your contention that Gold Wave can't be
considered for serious sound editing. It has beenby many, and still is
by  many. I do all my audio editing with Gold Wave, and while I'm no
professional recording studio, I'm no slouch at the concept either, and
there are people who are much more professional than I with recording
who  will agree. I'm not denying the superiority of Sound Forge as a
sound  editor, but if you're comfortable with Gold Wave's interface, as
I am,  then the power is there.

 bruce

 --
 Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
 gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV

 Bruce Toews
 E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net
 Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
 http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time:
 http://www.cornergas.com

 On Thu, 25 May 2006, Jonathan Mosen wrote:

 Hi all, some interesting points in this thread. From my point of
 view, if you're willing to invest in the tool that gets the job done
 most efficiently, Sound Forge is so far ahead that Goldwave isn't
 even worth your consideration. I say this because the reason Sound
 Forge became the leading
 single track editor in the blind community is because of the way in 
 which

 it
 embraces standard Windows navigation and selection methods. So if you're
 a
 competent user of word processors like MS word, and you understand how 
 to
 select text in regular Windows applications, your learning curve with
 Sound
 Forge is minimised hugely. I would put Studio Recorder way ahead of
 Goldwave
 and in some respects better than Sound Forge for certain tasks. For
 example,
 the sound don sound feature in the latest Studio Recorder is incredibly
 easy
 to use, yet powerful. It also attempts where possible to adhere to
 Windows
 standards. It's special accessibility features make it worthy of serious
 consideration, particularly if you don't require lots of special 
 affects.

 For those constrained by limited time, selecting and manipulating
 sound
 in
 Sound Forge or Studio Recorder is vastly more efficient than Goldwave 
 is.

 If money is a consideration, I would still recommend Sound Forge's
 cut
 down
 version because of the superior adherence to Windows conventions,
 although
 Goldwave is definitely more feature rich than this version of Sound
 Forge.
 If you're not serious about sound editing and want something to play
 with,
 maybe Goldwave is sufficient. Sound Forge is used in many professional
 environments for a good reason. It's powerful. Perhaps it provides more
 power than some people need, but really, there's no comparison in terms
 of
 functionality and ease of use, and you may find yourself gaining more
 experience and find Goldwave constraining. So depending on your needs,
 I'd
 say Sound Forge and Studio Recorder are in a class of their own. 
 Goldwave

 is
 in a different class.

 The Minx, the Internet radio station that plays all the great love
 songs.

 http://www.the-minx.com
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Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-25 Thread David Tanner
Well, I would say that it probably is too high for the average individual.  
But, my guess is that the price and quality are aimed at the professional sound 
studio or sound engineer.  Goldwave is a very good software, but I would doubt 
that you would find it the software of choice in a professional recording 
studio.



- Original Message - 
From: Chuck Adkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 4:30 AM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


:I agree. I don't know where that price was obtained but it is WAY WAY WAY 
: WAY OFF. I thought I saw it some where for about $250. It all comes down to 
: what do you want to do and what can you afford.
: - Original Message - 
: From: Gary Petraccaro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
: Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 5:18 AM
: Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
: 
: 
:  Nobody paid that much for SF, unless they had money to throw away.
: 
:  - Original Message - 
:  From: Samuel Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
:  Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:55 AM
:  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
: 
: 
: I also have a comment to make about Goldwave and Sound Forge which is the
:  price. Goldwave costs about 50 to $55 where Sound Forge costs like $430.
:  If
:  you are looking for a cheep sound editor that is good, I would suggest
:  Goldwave because I think Sound Forge is a big rip-off but that's just me.
:  - Original Message - 
:  From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
:  Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 7:50 AM
:  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
: 
: 
: I have the full version!
:  - Original Message - 
:  From: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
:  Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 10:49 PM
:  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
: 
: 
:  Just one comment that I forgot the other day.  If you are going to
:  check-out SoundForge I would strongly suggest testing the full version.
:  I
:  sincerely think that Goldwave is better than SoundForge's Studio or
:  Express version.  Now, some may disagree with that, but the Goldwave
:  feature set has a lot more to offer than the low-end SoundForge.
: 
: 
: 
:  - Original Message - 
:  From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
:  Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 1:04 AM
:  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
: 
: 
:  : Well I respect those who use Goldwave, and like it.  Maybe a lot of
:  people
:  : use it because of it's lower price, but a lot use Soundforge, because
:  of
:  its
:  : effects, and maybe for it's Noisereduction feature.  That works for
:  me!
:  : - Original Message - 
:  : From: Chuck Adkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:  : To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
:  : Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 4:06 AM
:  : Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
:  :
:  :
:  :  Hello. I prefer Sound Forge because of the scrubbing features it
:  has.
:  I
:  :  also
:  :  like the effects but don't get me wrong, Gold Wave is a very good
:  program.
:  :  For me Sound forge is a little bit more accessible. Of course, 
:  Sound
:  Forge
:  :  was the first editor I had experience with and that I think does
:  color
:  an
:  :  oppion sometimes. It's like finding a car though. You can find 6
:  people
:  :  who
:  :  like Fords and 6 people who like shevys. The best way is first, can
:  you
:  :  afford both programs in question and then second, download and try
:  out
:  :  each
:  :  demo.
:  : 
:  :  Just my thoughts,
:  : 
:  :  Chuck
:  : 
:  :  P.S. I think some of the audio I've produced using the Noise
:  Reduction
:  :  plugins with Sound Forge seem to have better quality then some of
:  the
:  NR
:  :  effects I've used with Sound Forge.
:  : 
:  : 
:  :  - Original Message - 
:  :  From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:  :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
:  :  Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 2:15 AM
:  :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
:  : 
:  : 
:  :  Hi Denny!  I like Soundforge because of all the effects that it
:  has,
:  as
:  :  well
:  :  as really enjoy the noisereduction plug-in, and I also like the
:  ability
:  :  to
:  :  pitch shift with it!
:  :  - Original Message - 
:  :  From: Denny Daughters [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:  :  To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
:  :  Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 1:40 PM
:  :  Subject: gold wave vs sound forge
:  : 
:  : 
:  :  Hi guys,
:  : Right now I use a basic sound editor called Fast Edit.  I find
:  it
:  :  useful for doing what I need to get done.  When I bought it about
:  3
:  :  years
:  :  ago, I wanted something I'd used before and I didn't want to 
:  learn
:  a
:  :  whole
:  :  new program.
:  : I've looked at goldwave and sure it's much more

Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-25 Thread Brent Harding
I would get forge before spending almost the same on Studio Recorder. Yeah, 
Studio Recorder can whack unwanted parts out of files fine and resave, but 
the 2 gig limit is hard to deal with and SF has more features for about the 
same price. I think the thing that Studio recorder has going for is 
instantaneous action on deleting, inserting, etc, the ability to have 
various commands of time length to jump with hotkeys, and the relative time 
when you hit the g and say +3:00 to jump 3 minutes ahead if that isn't one 
of your 3 jump lengths.

- Original Message - 
From: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 10:50 PM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 Well, I would say that it probably is too high for the average individual. 
 But, my guess is that the price and quality are aimed at the professional 
 sound studio or sound engineer.  Goldwave is a very good software, but I 
 would doubt that you would find it the software of choice in a 
 professional recording studio.



 - Original Message - 
 From: Chuck Adkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 4:30 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 :I agree. I don't know where that price was obtained but it is WAY WAY WAY
 : WAY OFF. I thought I saw it some where for about $250. It all comes down 
 to
 : what do you want to do and what can you afford.
 : - Original Message - 
 : From: Gary Petraccaro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 : To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 : Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 5:18 AM
 : Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 :
 :
 :  Nobody paid that much for SF, unless they had money to throw away.
 : 
 :  - Original Message - 
 :  From: Samuel Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:55 AM
 :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 : 
 : 
 : I also have a comment to make about Goldwave and Sound Forge which is 
 the
 :  price. Goldwave costs about 50 to $55 where Sound Forge costs like 
 $430.
 :  If
 :  you are looking for a cheep sound editor that is good, I would 
 suggest
 :  Goldwave because I think Sound Forge is a big rip-off but that's just 
 me.
 :  - Original Message - 
 :  From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 7:50 AM
 :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 : 
 : 
 : I have the full version!
 :  - Original Message - 
 :  From: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 10:49 PM
 :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 : 
 : 
 :  Just one comment that I forgot the other day.  If you are going to
 :  check-out SoundForge I would strongly suggest testing the full 
 version.
 :  I
 :  sincerely think that Goldwave is better than SoundForge's Studio or
 :  Express version.  Now, some may disagree with that, but the 
 Goldwave
 :  feature set has a lot more to offer than the low-end SoundForge.
 : 
 : 
 : 
 :  - Original Message - 
 :  From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 1:04 AM
 :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 : 
 : 
 :  : Well I respect those who use Goldwave, and like it.  Maybe a lot 
 of
 :  people
 :  : use it because of it's lower price, but a lot use Soundforge, 
 because
 :  of
 :  its
 :  : effects, and maybe for it's Noisereduction feature.  That works 
 for
 :  me!
 :  : - Original Message - 
 :  : From: Chuck Adkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  : To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  : Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 4:06 AM
 :  : Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 :  :
 :  :
 :  :  Hello. I prefer Sound Forge because of the scrubbing features 
 it
 :  has.
 :  I
 :  :  also
 :  :  like the effects but don't get me wrong, Gold Wave is a very 
 good
 :  program.
 :  :  For me Sound forge is a little bit more accessible. Of course,
 :  Sound
 :  Forge
 :  :  was the first editor I had experience with and that I think 
 does
 :  color
 :  an
 :  :  oppion sometimes. It's like finding a car though. You can find 
 6
 :  people
 :  :  who
 :  :  like Fords and 6 people who like shevys. The best way is first, 
 can
 :  you
 :  :  afford both programs in question and then second, download and 
 try
 :  out
 :  :  each
 :  :  demo.
 :  : 
 :  :  Just my thoughts,
 :  : 
 :  :  Chuck
 :  : 
 :  :  P.S. I think some of the audio I've produced using the Noise
 :  Reduction
 :  :  plugins with Sound Forge seem to have better quality then some 
 of
 :  the
 :  NR
 :  :  effects I've used with Sound Forge.
 :  : 
 :  : 
 :  :  - Original Message - 
 :  :  From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org

Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-25 Thread David Tanner
I guess I wouldn't be as concerned about how small a piece as I am things like 
the equalizer, noise reduction, click and crackle features, compression, and 
mixing choices.  But, that doesn't mean that my needs are the same as everybody 
else on this list.  So, at the very least a person should be compairing 
Goldwave to at least one other sound editor in a price range that they can 
afford.  And, I would be willing to bet that Goldwave will be fine for 80 
percent or more of persons who are not concerned with getting broadcast quality 
for every file they edit.



- Original Message - 
From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 12:59 PM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


: With GW you can edit to within a thousandth of a second or finer. How much 
: finer do you want than that?
: 
: Bruce
: 
: -- 
: Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
: gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
: 
: Bruce Toews
: E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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: Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
: 
: On Thu, 25 May 2006, Gary Schindler wrote:
: 
:  the only thing I wish that goldwave could do is to be a more precise or
:  finer editor. you can't beat soundforges editing capabilities at any price.
: 
:  - Original Message -
:  From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
:  Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:29 AM
:  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
: 
: 
:  Some people say, You get what you pay for!  But actually, you have to
:  take
:  a lot of things into consideration when purchasing a sound editor!  What
:  features and abilities you want with a sound editor, and also, what you
:  can
:  afford!
:  - Original Message -
:  From: Brian Olesen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
:  Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 3:42 PM
:  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
: 
: 
:  HI,
:  But it's also pretty expensive.
: 
:  Best regards
:  Brian
:  - Original Message -
:  From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
:  Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:38 PM
:  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
: 
: 
:  I think that from what I've heard so far, that Studio Recorder from APH
:  is
:  also quite a program!
:  - Original Message -
:  From: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
:  Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 12:59 AM
:  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
: 
: 
:  I think that the individual needs to take a look at each, decide what
:  they
:  really need to do, and after all that then make the decision on how much
:  they are willing to pay to get the editor that will do what they need to
:  do.  I really like SoundForge, but I do a lot of audio for radio
:  programs,
:  etc.  The person simply wanting to get records to MP3 and clean the
:  files
:  up to make them sound good may decide that they don't need all the
:  features
:  of Soundforge, and that they can good enough quality with Goldwave or
:  Audasity or something else.
: 
: 
: 
:  - Original Message -
:  From: Chuck Adkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
:  Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 3:06 AM
:  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
: 
: 
:  : Hello. I prefer Sound Forge because of the scrubbing features it has.
:  I
:  also
:  : like the effects but don't get me wrong, Gold Wave is a very good
:  program.
:  : For me Sound forge is a little bit more accessible. Of course, Sound
:  Forge
:  : was the first editor I had experience with and that I think does
:  color
:  an
:  : oppion sometimes. It's like finding a car though. You can find 6
:  people
:  who
:  : like Fords and 6 people who like shevys. The best way is first, can
:  you
:  : afford both programs in question and then second, download and try
:  out
:  each
:  : demo.
:  :
:  : Just my thoughts,
:  :
:  : Chuck
:  :
:  : P.S. I think some of the audio I've produced using the Noise
:  Reduction
:  : plugins with Sound Forge seem to have better quality then some of the
:  NR
:  : effects I've used with Sound Forge.
:  :
:  :
:  : - Original Message -
:  : From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:  : To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
:  : Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 2:15 AM
:  : Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
:  :
:  :
:  :  Hi Denny!  I like Soundforge because of all the effects that it
:  has,
:  as
:  :  well
:  :  as really enjoy the noisereduction plug-in, and I also like the
:  ability to
:  :  pitch shift with it!
:  :  - Original Message -
:  :  From: Denny Daughters [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:  :  To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc

RE: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-25 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Brent, the two gig limit is inherent in the wav file format. Sound Forge is
constrained by it too.

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-Original Message-
From: Brent Harding [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, 25 May 2006 10:56 p.m.
To: PC audio discussion list. 
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


I would get forge before spending almost the same on Studio Recorder. Yeah, 
Studio Recorder can whack unwanted parts out of files fine and resave, but 
the 2 gig limit is hard to deal with and SF has more features for about the 
same price. I think the thing that Studio recorder has going for is 
instantaneous action on deleting, inserting, etc, the ability to have 
various commands of time length to jump with hotkeys, and the relative time 
when you hit the g and say +3:00 to jump 3 minutes ahead if that isn't one

of your 3 jump lengths.

- Original Message - 
From: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 10:50 PM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 Well, I would say that it probably is too high for the average 
 individual.
 But, my guess is that the price and quality are aimed at the professional 
 sound studio or sound engineer.  Goldwave is a very good software, but I 
 would doubt that you would find it the software of choice in a 
 professional recording studio.



 - Original Message -
 From: Chuck Adkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 4:30 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 :I agree. I don't know where that price was obtained but it is WAY WAY 
 WAY
 : WAY OFF. I thought I saw it some where for about $250. It all comes down

 to
 : what do you want to do and what can you afford.
 : - Original Message - 
 : From: Gary Petraccaro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 : To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 : Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 5:18 AM
 : Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 :
 :
 :  Nobody paid that much for SF, unless they had money to throw away.
 : 
 :  - Original Message - 
 :  From: Samuel Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:55 AM
 :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 : 
 : 
 : I also have a comment to make about Goldwave and Sound Forge which is 
 the
 :  price. Goldwave costs about 50 to $55 where Sound Forge costs like 
 $430.
 :  If
 :  you are looking for a cheep sound editor that is good, I would 
 suggest
 :  Goldwave because I think Sound Forge is a big rip-off but that's just

 me.
 :  - Original Message - 
 :  From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 7:50 AM
 :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 : 
 : 
 : I have the full version!
 :  - Original Message - 
 :  From: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 10:49 PM
 :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 : 
 : 
 :  Just one comment that I forgot the other day.  If you are going to
 :  check-out SoundForge I would strongly suggest testing the full 
 version.
 :  I
 :  sincerely think that Goldwave is better than SoundForge's Studio or
 :  Express version.  Now, some may disagree with that, but the 
 Goldwave
 :  feature set has a lot more to offer than the low-end SoundForge.
 : 
 : 
 : 
 :  - Original Message - 
 :  From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 1:04 AM
 :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 : 
 : 
 :  : Well I respect those who use Goldwave, and like it.  Maybe a lot 
 of
 :  people
 :  : use it because of it's lower price, but a lot use Soundforge, 
 because
 :  of
 :  its
 :  : effects, and maybe for it's Noisereduction feature.  That works 
 for
 :  me!
 :  : - Original Message - 
 :  : From: Chuck Adkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  : To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  : Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 4:06 AM
 :  : Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 :  :
 :  :
 :  :  Hello. I prefer Sound Forge because of the scrubbing features 
 it
 :  has.
 :  I
 :  :  also
 :  :  like the effects but don't get me wrong, Gold Wave is a very 
 good
 :  program.
 :  :  For me Sound forge is a little bit more accessible. Of course,
 :  Sound
 :  Forge
 :  :  was the first editor I had experience with and that I think 
 does
 :  color
 :  an
 :  :  oppion sometimes. It's like finding a car though. You can find 
 6
 :  people
 :  :  who
 :  :  like Fords and 6 people who like shevys. The best way is first,

 can
 :  you
 :  :  afford both programs

Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-25 Thread Brent Harding
Oh, I can use a prog called addawav and merge files together and make Winamp 
play them OK. I wonder if that is my problem with time issues when I 
fastforward or rewind more so than the SQR plugin? I convert all the wma I 
record off replay AV into wav so that I can have better performance with my 
remote I use with Winamp and use rocksteady on it.

- Original Message - 
From: Jonathan Mosen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 11:11 PM
Subject: RE: gold wave vs sound forge


 Brent, the two gig limit is inherent in the wav file format. Sound Forge 
 is
 constrained by it too.

 The Minx, the Internet radio station that plays all the great love songs.

 http://www.the-minx.com
 Jonathan Mosen
 Blog, podcast and radio show: http://www.MosenExplosion.com
 Ph: +1-925-566-9265.
 Mobile/SMS +1-806-252-6671


 -Original Message-
 From: Brent Harding [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, 25 May 2006 10:56 p.m.
 To: PC audio discussion list.
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 I would get forge before spending almost the same on Studio Recorder. 
 Yeah,
 Studio Recorder can whack unwanted parts out of files fine and resave, but
 the 2 gig limit is hard to deal with and SF has more features for about 
 the
 same price. I think the thing that Studio recorder has going for is
 instantaneous action on deleting, inserting, etc, the ability to have
 various commands of time length to jump with hotkeys, and the relative 
 time
 when you hit the g and say +3:00 to jump 3 minutes ahead if that isn't 
 one

 of your 3 jump lengths.

 - Original Message - 
 From: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 10:50 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 Well, I would say that it probably is too high for the average
 individual.
 But, my guess is that the price and quality are aimed at the professional
 sound studio or sound engineer.  Goldwave is a very good software, but I
 would doubt that you would find it the software of choice in a
 professional recording studio.



 - Original Message -
 From: Chuck Adkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 4:30 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 :I agree. I don't know where that price was obtained but it is WAY WAY
 WAY
 : WAY OFF. I thought I saw it some where for about $250. It all comes 
 down

 to
 : what do you want to do and what can you afford.
 : - Original Message - 
 : From: Gary Petraccaro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 : To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 : Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 5:18 AM
 : Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 :
 :
 :  Nobody paid that much for SF, unless they had money to throw away.
 : 
 :  - Original Message - 
 :  From: Samuel Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:55 AM
 :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 : 
 : 
 : I also have a comment to make about Goldwave and Sound Forge which is
 the
 :  price. Goldwave costs about 50 to $55 where Sound Forge costs like
 $430.
 :  If
 :  you are looking for a cheep sound editor that is good, I would
 suggest
 :  Goldwave because I think Sound Forge is a big rip-off but that's 
 just

 me.
 :  - Original Message - 
 :  From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 7:50 AM
 :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 : 
 : 
 : I have the full version!
 :  - Original Message - 
 :  From: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 10:49 PM
 :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 : 
 : 
 :  Just one comment that I forgot the other day.  If you are going to
 :  check-out SoundForge I would strongly suggest testing the full
 version.
 :  I
 :  sincerely think that Goldwave is better than SoundForge's Studio 
 or
 :  Express version.  Now, some may disagree with that, but the
 Goldwave
 :  feature set has a lot more to offer than the low-end SoundForge.
 : 
 : 
 : 
 :  - Original Message - 
 :  From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 1:04 AM
 :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 : 
 : 
 :  : Well I respect those who use Goldwave, and like it.  Maybe a lot
 of
 :  people
 :  : use it because of it's lower price, but a lot use Soundforge,
 because
 :  of
 :  its
 :  : effects, and maybe for it's Noisereduction feature.  That works
 for
 :  me!
 :  : - Original Message - 
 :  : From: Chuck Adkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :  : To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  : Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 4:06 AM
 :  : Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge

Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-24 Thread Gary Wood
Well I respect those who use Goldwave, and like it.  Maybe a lot of people 
use it because of it's lower price, but a lot use Soundforge, because of its 
effects, and maybe for it's Noisereduction feature.  That works for me!
- Original Message - 
From: Chuck Adkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 4:06 AM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 Hello. I prefer Sound Forge because of the scrubbing features it has. I 
 also
 like the effects but don't get me wrong, Gold Wave is a very good program.
 For me Sound forge is a little bit more accessible. Of course, Sound Forge
 was the first editor I had experience with and that I think does color an
 oppion sometimes. It's like finding a car though. You can find 6 people 
 who
 like Fords and 6 people who like shevys. The best way is first, can you
 afford both programs in question and then second, download and try out 
 each
 demo.

 Just my thoughts,

 Chuck

 P.S. I think some of the audio I've produced using the Noise Reduction
 plugins with Sound Forge seem to have better quality then some of the NR
 effects I've used with Sound Forge.


 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 2:15 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 Hi Denny!  I like Soundforge because of all the effects that it has, as
 well
 as really enjoy the noisereduction plug-in, and I also like the ability 
 to
 pitch shift with it!
 - Original Message - 
 From: Denny Daughters [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 1:40 PM
 Subject: gold wave vs sound forge


 Hi guys,
Right now I use a basic sound editor called Fast Edit.  I find it
 useful for doing what I need to get done.  When I bought it about 3 
 years
 ago, I wanted something I'd used before and I didn't want to learn a
 whole
 new program.
I've looked at goldwave and sure it's much more powerful with 
 effects,
 de-popping records, batch conversion to any formats, that kind of thing.
 I don't like the editing interface, how you can't hear right where that
 final bracket drops.  I suppose I can get used to it.  The price of gold
 wave is tempting, sound forge on the other hand costs more and that's
 really all I know about it.  What do you all like and or dislike about
 goldwave and soundforge? Thanks.
 Denny
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