Re: Grandfather Mountain (was Re: Pentax clubs)

2001-01-23 Thread tom

This is gonna be fun.

tv

Ann Sanfedele wrote:
> 
> Re tents -  yup, me too - where is the campground?
> annsan
> 
> Bill Owens wrote:
> 
> > > I am giving it serious consideration! Any tent campers in this bunch?
> >
> > My wife and I will be tent campers, Tom says he may be, and last year there
> > were a couple of others, but they were shooting with the competition.
> >
> > Bill
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Re: OT: (Somewhat) Is this true for you?

2001-01-23 Thread David A. Mann

Matjaz OSOJNIK writes:

> > Dosk wrote:
> >
> > Have you found for yourself an ideal "focal length" eye?
> 
> Well, for me, 50 mm is generally to wide or to narrow.

 Using my 6x7 I found 90mm to be really useful.  This is about equivalent to 
45mm in a 35mm camera... so the 43mm Limited would appeal to me if it 
wasn't quite so expensive.

Cheers,


- Dave

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Re: OT: (Somewhat) Is this true for you?

2001-01-23 Thread Chris Brogden

On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, dosk wrote:

> The 50 now almost seems like an 'almost wide' lens to me..  The 100
> should be considered a "normal" view type of lens, IMO!
> Skip

If you want to try something fun, shoot nothing but wide angles for a
while.  24mm, 28mm, and nothing longer than 35mm.  *Then* pick up a 50mm
lens, and it's amazing how much it seems like a telephoto.  All of a
sudden you're not getting enough of the scene in, and you can't imagine
how you could possibly use a 100mm.   This feeling vanishes pretty
quickly, but it's fun while it lasts.

chris

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Re: PZ-1P & Pentax "M" Lenses ?

2001-01-23 Thread David A. Mann

Tiger Moses writes:

> I just got my PZ-1p yesterdayI can't wait for lunch hour so I can go
> outside and test the puppy out.

 Well if you're going to call it a dog already you might as well send it my 
way... :)

 Cheers,


- Dave

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Re: problem with exposure w/ a well-lit window in background

2001-01-23 Thread dosk

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"Scott Dillard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 7:21 PM
Subject: problem with exposure w/ a well-lit window in background


Hi Scott

Not new to photography, but fairly new to the newer "Z" type  Pentax SLR's
myself.  I ran into the same problem, and found out how to better use the
camera in these situations by experimenting Such as::  Do you have
memory lock on your camera? If you do, you might try metering on the bright
side first and noting that, then on the shadowed side and noting that, then
shifting perhaps just a little back towards the light until you get a
compromise setting, then set the memory lock and aim the camera back into
the center of where you want it to be and open the shutter.  If you don't
have memory lock, get your compromise reading first and then put the
settings in manually...

Hey teach, do your studying and take your tests! (Been waiting for years to
say that to a teacher...) You should give the camera at least a roll of good
test exposures:  shoot the exact same scene on a dark reading, on a middle
reading, on a bright reading, then try the + and - EV adjustments, then
shoot with several different manual settings. Shoot test film until you get
an idea how the camera handles exposures.  Just remember to use the same
film and same setting (preferably a contrasty one) for each shot. (And be
sure and WRITE DOWN THE SETTINGS FOR EACH SHOT!!)

Have fun. I'm still trying these kinds of tests also, and IMO it's a lot of
fun just learning these things for myself.
Skip

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Re: OT: (Somewhat) Is this true for you?

2001-01-23 Thread dave o'brien

A scroll of mail from "dosk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Read it? y

From: "Tom Rittenhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To me the 100 gives the most natural perspective.  The farther I
>> deviate from it the more specialized the lens seems.
>> --Tom

>Exactly, exactly. That's just what I mean. When I look thru the lens of a
>100, and then look up, everything seems almost the same size to me. Which is
>probably why I can compose and viewfinder-crop so much better with the 100.
>The 50 now almost seems like an 'almost wide' lens to me..  The 100
>should be considered a "normal" view type of lens, IMO!

Doesn't the 'normality' of the lens depend on the magnification of the
viewfinder?

Personally, I find 100mm a very nice focal length, but sometimes
normal for me is a 20mm (especially if I'm outdoors).
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Re: OT: I did it. I got a digital camera. I promise not to use it. much.

2001-01-23 Thread SudaMafud

In a message dated 1/23/01 8:30:02 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<<  Except maybe for those disposable cameras, I can't think of anything in 
the "snapshot" field people will need a film based camera for. >>

Err..., those chemical "snapshots" make up as much as 93% of *all* the 
chemical film shot. I'd hold off burying chemical imaging until digital takes 
over the "snapshooting" crowd *AND* disposable cameras.

Mafud
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Re: OT: I did it. I got a digital camera. I promise not to use it. much.

2001-01-23 Thread SudaMafud

In a message dated 1/23/01 8:30:02 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<<  And the screen shots look great! >>

*All* backlit shots look great...brightness and colorwise. 

Mafud
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Re: Sigma 400mm f/5.6 APO MF lens for Pentax Ka mount

2001-01-23 Thread Takehiko Ueda

Hi Greg and Polly,

Greg and Polly wrote:
> I see Ebay has a Sigma 400mm f/5.6 APO manual focus lens
> for Pentax ( I have ZX-5N) on item # 1209610088.  Do
> any of you have this lens or at least an opinion of its 
> value and quality.  I have not been able to find any info
> on the www. about it.

I got this lens for US$400 from ebay.  It's not so heavy
and I think it very usable, though I regret I don't have
many chances to go out with it.

Here is my photo with SIGMA 400mm f5.6 APO;
http://members.tripod.co.jp/hayatama/photo/works/works06.htm
It's 214kb, rather heavy...

Hope this helps you.

Sincerely,


Take Ueda, Osaka, Japan
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Re: OT: (Somewhat) Is this true for you?

2001-01-23 Thread dosk


- Original Message -
From: "Tom Rittenhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 2:20 AM
Subject: Re: OT: (Somewhat) Is this true for you?


> To me the 100 gives the most natural perspective.  The farther I
> deviate from it the more specialized the lens seems.
> --Tom

Exactly, exactly. That's just what I mean. When I look thru the lens of a
100, and then look up, everything seems almost the same size to me. Which is
probably why I can compose and viewfinder-crop so much better with the 100.
The 50 now almost seems like an 'almost wide' lens to me..  The 100
should be considered a "normal" view type of lens, IMO!
Skip

PS... How did you get the nick "graywolf1943"?  (Mine is Greywoulf)

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Re: PZ-1P & Pentax "M" Lenses ?

2001-01-23 Thread John Glover


- Original Message - 
From: "Frank Knapik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 8:06 AM
Subject: PZ-1P & Pentax "M" Lenses ?


> Hello. I have a couple of questions regarding the use of Pentax "M" lenses with my 
>PZ-1P:
> 
> 1) Can you set the aperture of M lenses with the camera, or do you have to use the 
>aperture ring on the lens?

No, you have to use the aperture ring, and the M series lenses will only function in 
aperture priority or manual exposure modes as well.

> 
> 2) Does the spot metering mode work well with M lenses?

Yes, spot metering and center weighted should work with the M series lenses...the 
multi segment metering should work as well. My PZ-1p manual states that for lenses 
made earlier than the M series (without information contacts), only the center 
weighted and spot metering will function. So, based on that, the M series should work 
in all metering modes.

John

> 
> As always, thank you.
> 
> Francis
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Re: Grandfather Mountain (was Re: Pentax clubs)

2001-01-23 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Re tents -  yup, me too - where is the campground?
annsan

Bill Owens wrote:

> > I am giving it serious consideration! Any tent campers in this bunch?
>
> My wife and I will be tent campers, Tom says he may be, and last year there
> were a couple of others, but they were shooting with the competition.
>
> Bill
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Re: Grandfather Mountain (was Re: Pentax clubs)

2001-01-23 Thread Ann Sanfedele

I'm probably going to be there too, barring the unforseen.  I think I said this
before
not sure if I'm in the count... Won't just sporting an LX identify one?   How
much of
a mob scene is it?
annsan

Bill Owens wrote:

> > You guys are fortunate. I got a five hour drive from Augusta but it will
> be
> > well worth it. Maybe we should show up at registration with a Pentax
> around
> > our neck so we can identify each other. Anyone else got any ideas on this?
> >
> >Casey Szocinski
>
> That will make at least 5 of us that will be there then.  We'll have to post
> a photo on the first open PUG after that to make everyone else wish they'd
> been there too.
>
> Bill
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Re: Protective gear: was Glacial Acetic Acid. etc

2001-01-23 Thread John Glover

Any decent half face respirator with ammonia cartridges will work just fine.  However, 
the whole key is the fit of the respirator. There is a very exacting procedure to don 
and fit a respirator to ensure you have a good seal on the face. And it has to be 
sized correctly.  If by a mask you mean a paper dustmask type (filtering facepiece), 
no, these will not work for ammonia.  Ammonia and other similar gases (amines, etc.), 
require an absorbent cartridge. Typical dust masks are not fitted with these, though I 
have seen some with small charcoal cartridge for organic vapors and/or 
pesticidesthese are not approved for such use by regulatory agencies though, but 
they are out there.

John
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Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 5:07 PM
Subject: OT: Protective gear: was Glacial Acetic Acid. etc


> 
> > >For that, I wear a neoprene apron, neoprene gloves, goggles and
> > >an ammonia mask.
> 
> Is there an ammonia mask that is actually usable? My first full time job
> (1985) was developing and duplicating microfiche. The masters were done with
> standard sort of film and developed in normal Ilford b&w developers but the


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Re: Protective gear: was Glacial Acetic Acid. etc

2001-01-23 Thread John Glover

Bill,

Check the cartridges or the filters on your mask. Ammonia uses a different type of 
cartridge than for acetic acid. any good safety supply store should carries these as 
stock items, perhaps even a combination cartridge to both ammonia and acid gases.  
Though an organic vapor mask may work for glacial acetic acid as well, since it is an 
organic acid.

John
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From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 7:09 PM
Subject: Re: Protective gear: was Glacial Acetic Acid. etc


> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Paul Ewins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: January 23, 2001 5:07 PM
> Subject: OT: Protective gear: was Glacial Acetic Acid. etc
> 
> 
> >
> > > >For that, I wear a neoprene apron, neoprene gloves, goggles
> and
> > > >an ammonia mask.
> >
> > Is there an ammonia mask that is actually usable?
> 
> The one I use is just a wee thang whickhcovers my nose and
> mouth. It has two circular filters. It works pretty well. It
> isn't quite enough to filter out the acetic acid smell, which is
> extremely acrid, but it makes it livable. It only has to work
> for me for a couple of minutes. I put the mask on, pour the acid
> into the mixing jug of water, then pour that into the stock
> solution bottle, rinse the jug and leave the room for a couple
> of minutes until the air has cleared.
> William Robb
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Re: Grandfather Mountain (was Re: Pentax clubs)

2001-01-23 Thread Tiger Moses

Me and the woman who is suppossed to marry me (this was agreed
before I bought my PZ-1p), who I have brought into the Pentax
way of life, have a chance of making this event.  I am trying
to persuade her.  We'll be driving from Texas!
My brother lives in Hickory/Conover area, a little over an hour
from Grandfather mountain.

At 10:27 PM 1/23/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>"John F. DeLoach" wrote:
>> 
>> I am giving it serious consideration! Any tent campers in this bunch?
>> 
>> We may get better attendance if Dario brings the models from Pentax Day in
>> Italy!
>
>Trust me, there will be enough Pentax hardware there to make anyone
>salivate...
>
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Sigma 400mm f/5.6 APO MF lens for Pentax Ka mount

2001-01-23 Thread Greg & Polly Wiseman

I am looking for a lens (fixed or zoom) which reaches 400mm.  I see Ebay has
a Sigma 400mm f/5.6 APO manual focus lens for Pentax ( I have ZX-5N) on item
# 1209610088.  Do any of you have this lens or at least an opinion of its
value and quality.  I have not been able to find any info on the www. about
it.

Somewhere on the web I ran across a lens performance survey which favored
the Sigma AF 135-400mm F/4-5.6 APO Asph.  This is rather pricey (for me) at
around $500 U.S. new.  Any thoughts on this lens?

My wife and I will be using the lens to shoot birds and other wildlife.

I earlier purchased a Pentax SMC F 70-210 f/4-5.6 from a fellow list member.
We are Very happy with this lens but need a longer focal length for shooting
the small critters.

Greg & Polly

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Re: OT: I did it. I got a digital camera. I promise not to use it. much.

2001-01-23 Thread Sid Barras

Peter Alling wrote:
> 
> I have to comment on this.  I have a digital camera, a
> Kodak DC260, 1.5 megapixal, state of the art as of two
> years ago cost me more than my both my MX's and winder
> and a couple of lenses.  Hopelessly outdated less than
> 3 months, (and no longer supported by Kodak by the
> way), after I bought it.  

Yes. I agree. This Olympus D-360-L will join it soon, I'm certain. But
can the film industry survive the "barbarians at the gate"? These soon
to be obsolete cameras are but bits of plastic and semi conductors. I
wonder how much  actual "material" cost there is in them. Therefore, not
a problem for the maker if they're obsolete and thrown away. They'll
make more, and the next one's even better

My 35mm SLR's image capture
> capabilities are updated every time film is improved.

How long will they continue to R & D film? (especially my favorites like
Plus - x pan, and FP 4+?)

> Maybe when the "NEW" Pentax Digital SLR is released
> with it's 6 megapixal CCD I'll think differently but I
> doubt it.

And I too. I'll buy film for my Spotmatic F as long as I can, and they
make it available to me...

Sid
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OT: I did it. I got a digital camera. I promise not to use it. much.

2001-01-23 Thread fredd

I agree with Peter on this one.

I have a Fuji Finepix 2400 and recently my wife got me a Olympus C2020.
And I don't like any of them, especially not the Fuji Finepix.
They will be up on eBay next week.
I must be one of those hard headed people that Sid mentioned :)

fredd
(old fashioned & hard headed in cameras, cars, 4x4's and guns, and non-PC)

> I have to comment on this.  I have a digital camera, a
> Kodak DC260, 1.5 megapixal, state of the art as of two
> years ago cost me more than my both my MX's and winder
> and a couple of lenses.  Hopelessly outdated less than
> 3 months, (and no longer supported by Kodak by the
> way), after I bought it.  My 35mm SLR's image capture
> capabilities are updated every time film is improved. 
> Maybe when the "NEW" Pentax Digital SLR is released
> with it's 6 megapixal CCD I'll think differently but I
> doubt it.

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Re: OT: I did it. I got a digital camera. I promise not to use it. much.

2001-01-23 Thread Peter Alling

I have to comment on this.  I have a digital camera, a
Kodak DC260, 1.5 megapixal, state of the art as of two
years ago cost me more than my both my MX's and winder
and a couple of lenses.  Hopelessly outdated less than
3 months, (and no longer supported by Kodak by the
way), after I bought it.  My 35mm SLR's image capture
capabilities are updated every time film is improved. 
Maybe when the "NEW" Pentax Digital SLR is released
with it's 6 megapixal CCD I'll think differently but I
doubt it.

--- Sid Barras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all,
> Well, I didn't buy it though. A very dear friend and
> mentor, my
> surrogate Father, bought it, didn't like the way it
> handled as compared
> to his former Kodak digital. So he went and bought
> an upgraded Kodak,
> and stuck this Olympus D-360L on the shelf, and
> then, on a whim, gave it
> to me when I went visiting him while I was in
> Houston for the Marathon
> this past week ago.
> 
> It's got 1.3 megageewhizzezz. And these cute little
> floppy disks you can
> feed directly to the computer through a little
> drive. (Or you can hook
> it to the computer through the serial port, and
> download directly)
> 
> I'm actually quite impressed with the dang thing. At
> the highest
> setting, you get a pretty decent printout on my
> Epson 2000 at 5 x 7. And
> the screen shots look great!
> 
> I'm convinced completely. The point and shoot
> industry will be
> completely digital soon. Except maybe for those
> disposable cameras, I
> can't think of anything in the "snapshot" field
> people will need a film
> based camera for. Other than time for all those hard
> headed people who
> don't like to do things differently than what
> they're accustomed to to
> die off
> 
> How far off can the SLR / serious photography be
> from suffering the same fate?
> 
> it's inevitable, I think, as I gaze at my 2500+ LP
> record collection,
> which will one day mean absolutely nothing to the
> heirs of mine who
> eventually get them and wind up throwing them
> away
> 
> Feeling a bit melancholy
> 
> Sid
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Re: How I use my spot meter, and how should I use my incident meter?

2001-01-23 Thread William Robb


- Original Message -
From: "Sid Barras" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: January 23, 2001 9:10 PM
Subject: OT: How I use my spot meter, and how should I use my
incident meter?


> Got any quick and easy tips for the best use of the incident
meter?

Yes

> Like: point it right at the main light source, at the subject
position?

Point it at the camera

> Or, do you use say a 45 degree angle in reference to the
ground?

Point it at the camera

> How critical is left or right inclination?

Is it pointed towards the camera?

> When is the incident meter at it's best? When using
transparency film,
> when exposure is SOOO critical, like my new source of
inspiration
> Velvia?

When using any film

> Should I stick with the spot meter, and use this as a flash
meter?
Thats what I do.

>
> I am a burden, yes I know.

Thats OK, go finish your homework now.
Bill
>
>

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Re: OT: (Somewhat) Is this true for you?

2001-01-23 Thread Rob Studdert

On 23 Jan 2001, at 19:52, Mike Johnston wrote:

> 
> 
> > Actually Ed, I think I can do you one better. I prefer the 55
> > f1.8 (gasp) for my choice of one lens.
> 
> Yep, I think I'm home. Love this list.

The 55f1.8 is my only screw mount lens, I hook it up to the LX just to make 
my Summicron jealous :-)

Cheers,

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OT: Looking for a manual for my Gossen Luna Pro F meter. Have money.

2001-01-23 Thread Sid Barras

Hi all:

got this new meter, and finding it has more features than I can simply
"figure out"
So, if anyone's got this meter, and has the book, and would be willing
to let me borrow it for a few days to photocopy at least the important
parts, I would be highly appreciative. 

And would be willing to compensate said kind soul too.

Regards,
Sid B
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OT: I did it. I got a digital camera. I promise not to use it. much.

2001-01-23 Thread Sid Barras

Hi all,
Well, I didn't buy it though. A very dear friend and mentor, my
surrogate Father, bought it, didn't like the way it handled as compared
to his former Kodak digital. So he went and bought an upgraded Kodak,
and stuck this Olympus D-360L on the shelf, and then, on a whim, gave it
to me when I went visiting him while I was in Houston for the Marathon
this past week ago.

It's got 1.3 megageewhizzezz. And these cute little floppy disks you can
feed directly to the computer through a little drive. (Or you can hook
it to the computer through the serial port, and download directly)

I'm actually quite impressed with the dang thing. At the highest
setting, you get a pretty decent printout on my Epson 2000 at 5 x 7. And
the screen shots look great!

I'm convinced completely. The point and shoot industry will be
completely digital soon. Except maybe for those disposable cameras, I
can't think of anything in the "snapshot" field people will need a film
based camera for. Other than time for all those hard headed people who
don't like to do things differently than what they're accustomed to to
die off

How far off can the SLR / serious photography be from suffering the same fate?

it's inevitable, I think, as I gaze at my 2500+ LP record collection,
which will one day mean absolutely nothing to the heirs of mine who
eventually get them and wind up throwing them away

Feeling a bit melancholy

Sid
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OT: How I use my spot meter, and how should I use my incident meter?

2001-01-23 Thread Sid Barras

Hi all;

Got a Gossen Luna Pro F meter recently on ebay for what I though was a
very good price, considering the price of a new one. I've been wanting
one, though my necessity for it was hard to find, given that the Zone VI
modified spot meter I've got and have been using for a couple of years
has performed flawlessly.

I use this method of choosing an exposure for the majority of my
pictures (black and white, outdoor landscapes and environmental portraits):
I generally take two spot readings, the darkest area I want detail in,
and the brightest area I want detail in, and choose and exposure near
the middle of these two readings, and I "weight" my choice of slightly
closer to more exposure or slightly closer to less exposure, depending
on the overall brightness of the scene. Works pretty good. On shots that
really look good to me, that is, I'm sure they'll be destined for more
than a contact sheet, I'll bracket one stop either way, too. Film is
cheap. the trips out there and back, the time spent setting up and
choosing etc., that's expensive. So I almost always bracket, even when
I'm sure. When this type of metering is not an option for me, I'll use
the in camera meter, and do the same bracketing, except maybe, very
rarely, I'll go another half stop either way. 

Now that I've cluttered this post with my incessant ramblings, the main point:
I bought this Luna Pro F mainly as an incident meter. It is, as I'm sure
many of you know, a very capable meter in both reflected light, flash,
and incident light. So it could serve me for lots of things. 
I read the book: "Perfect Exposure" which I wholeheartedly recommend,
and found my self wanting an incident meter. But after I bought the
meter, and went back to the book for "instructional" help, I found they
don't really tell you exactly how to "point" the meter, when using it as
an incident meter.

So here I am, begging help from the PDML. 

Got any quick and easy tips for the best use of the incident meter? 
Like: point it right at the main light source, at the subject position?
Or, do you use say a 45 degree angle in reference to the ground? 
How critical is left or right inclination?
When is the incident meter at it's best? When using transparency film,
when exposure is SOOO critical, like my new source of inspiration
Velvia? 
Should I stick with the spot meter, and use this as a flash meter?

I am a burden, yes I know.

Sid B
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Re: Grandfather Mountain (was Re: Pentax clubs)

2001-01-23 Thread tom

"John F. DeLoach" wrote:
> 
> I am giving it serious consideration! Any tent campers in this bunch?
> 
> We may get better attendance if Dario brings the models from Pentax Day in
> Italy!

Trust me, there will be enough Pentax hardware there to make anyone
salivate...

tv
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Re: Grandfather Mountain (was Re: Pentax clubs)

2001-01-23 Thread tom

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> You guys are fortunate. I got a five hour drive from Augusta but it will be
> well worth it. 

Pshaw. I've got 8 hours from Northern Va.

> Maybe we should show up at registration with a Pentax around
> our neck so we can identify each other. Anyone else got any ideas on this?

Look for Doug, he'll have a flashlight taped to his head. 

Plus I suspect there will be name tags...maybe we'll plan a time and
place to meet up as the date draws closer.

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Re: Grandfather Mountain (was Re: Pentax clubs)

2001-01-23 Thread Bill Owens

 
> Look for Doug, he'll have a flashlight taped to his head. 

And that will be jeepgirl with the PZ-1p taking his picture.

Bill

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Re: M 200/4

2001-01-23 Thread David P. Chernicoff

At 10:01 PM 1/23/2001 -0500, PAUL STENQUIST wrote:

>I like the M200/4 and use it quite a bit. While it's a bit slow, it's
>very compact, adequately sharp and contrasty. However, I've heard the
>SMC Pentax 200/4 is slightly better, although heavier and larger.
>However, I think $139 is a shade more than you'd pay on ebay. This lens
>is desirable, but it is very plentiful and frequently sells for slightly
>less than $100.

I bought both an M200/4 and an SMC 200/4 on ebay. Both were in mint 
condition (with lens caps, filters, and leather cases). One was $76 and the 
other $84. Don't remember which was which.

David<

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Re: [Re: Pentax AF 100 mm f3.5 micro]

2001-01-23 Thread SETH

- Original Message -
From: "Anupam Routh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 8:23 AM
Subject: Re: [Re: Pentax AF 100 mm f3.5 micro]


> Many thanks for your reply. Can you elaborate about "the low
weight could be a
> curse in disguise"? I live in a small place.  There is no
opportunity to
> handle the lens. No store in our area carry this lens. What about
its optical
> quality in taking pictures during family vacation? with thanks.

What I meant is that the lens feels too light.  The build quality
seems too flimsy.  If you can't find a store that carries Pentax
version of the lens, see if someone carries Vivitar, Cosina, or
Phoenix brand of 100mm f/3.5 Macro in either manual or autofocus.
Depending on the part of the world you live in, it may be available
under other names.

I don't know about the image quality, but other Cosina made lenses
are typically good, though not great (recent Cosina made Voigtlander
lenses are a pleasant exception).  If you don't need macro
capability and can afford it, consider getting Pentax FA 135 f/2.8.
It is a great lens and will certainly last longer.



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Re: Wolfskin was(Why do we? was: Tripods, cable extensions...?)

2001-01-23 Thread Cy Galley

You mean you were serious and are going to.
"kill all the wolves, issue machine guns to 6 year olds
> if necessary, (they'll like that), everyone should
> have a wolf skin coat while the supply lasts
> (tired of all the PC apologies!)"

- Original Message - 
From: "Peter Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 8:30 PM
Subject: Wolfskin was(Why do we? was: Tripods, cable extensions...?)


> You're all being too too sensitive, it wasn't a joke
> kill all the wolves, issue machine guns to 6 year olds
> if necessary, (they'll like that), everyone should
> have a wolf skin coat while the supply lasts
> (tired of all the PC apologies!)
> 
> --- Tom Rittenhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > As was my reply.
> > 
> > Bob Walkden wrote:
> > > 
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > Tom Rittenhouse wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Bob Walkden wrote:
> > > >> No. The real answer is to use wolfskin.
> > > 
> > > > Why do I find this idea so abominable?
> > > > --Tom (AKA graywolf)
> > > 
> > > ..erm, before anybody else gets the wrong idea I
> > think I should point
> > > out that it was meant to be a joke.
> > 
> > 
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Re: Grandfather Mountain (was Re: Pentax clubs)

2001-01-23 Thread Bill Owens



> I am giving it serious consideration! Any tent campers in this bunch?

My wife and I will be tent campers, Tom says he may be, and last year there
were a couple of others, but they were shooting with the competition.

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Re: M 200/4

2001-01-23 Thread Peter Alling

I got mine for approximately $60.00 on e-bay and I
thought I overpaid, although it's a very nice lens. 
As noted it's light and balances well on all of the
bodies that I own.  
--- PAUL STENQUIST <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> I like the M200/4 and use it quite a bit. While it's
> a bit slow, it's
> very compact, adequately sharp and contrasty.
> However, I've heard the
> SMC Pentax 200/4 is slightly better, although
> heavier and larger.
> However, I think $139 is a shade more than you'd pay
> on ebay. This lens
> is desirable, but it is very plentiful and
> frequently sells for slightly
> less than $100.
> Paul
> Scott Dillard wrote:
> > 
> > Hi,
> > What does everybody think about a Pentax 200 F-4
> prime lens manual focus A
> > at $139 in bargain condition and/or Pentax 200 F-4
> prime lens manual focus M
> > at $139 in excellent condition  at KEH instead of
> a Pentax 80-320 zoom
> > telephoto lens in new condition for about 70
> dollars more new.  Jeez, what a
> > long sentence.  Actually, I wouldn't mind input on
> how good the manual
> > lenses are without any input on a comparison with
> a zoom 80-320. Anyway, any
> > of these lenses would go on a Pentax ZX-7 or ZM. 
> Any advice would greatly
> > be appreciated.
> > 
> > Thankyou in advance,
> > Scott
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Re: (no subject) OT comment

2001-01-23 Thread Tom Rittenhouse

Ah, the instant age.  Awhile back I was reading one of Jung's
books.  He had sentences 3 pages long.  I scanned some of it
into Word and checked the grade level.  It was something like
21.5.

When I write a sentence of more than 10-12 words I feel like I
am being obtuse.  My paragraphs seem to average 3 sentences.

Just think, they wrote those dissertations with a pen.  Seems
like the easier it is to do something the less effort we put
into it.  Sort of like photography.  I put far more effort into
pics made with my old speed graphic than I do those made with my
Pentaxs.
--Tom


Scott Dillard wrote:
> Jeez, what a long sentence.


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Re: Grandfather Mountain (was Re: Pentax clubs)

2001-01-23 Thread John F. DeLoach

I am giving it serious consideration! Any tent campers in this bunch?

We may get better attendance if Dario brings the models from Pentax Day in 
Italy!

John in Atlanta

At 09:50 PM 01/23/2001 -0500, you wrote:


> > You guys are fortunate. I got a five hour drive from Augusta but it will
>be
> > well worth it. Maybe we should show up at registration with a Pentax
>around
> > our neck so we can identify each other. Anyone else got any ideas on this?
> >
> >Casey Szocinski
>
>That will make at least 5 of us that will be there then.  We'll have to post
>a photo on the first open PUG after that to make everyone else wish they'd
>been there too.
>
>Bill
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Re: problem with exposure w/ a well-lit window in background

2001-01-23 Thread Tom Rittenhouse

Scott, there are two possible solutions to this problem.  

1. Increased exposure.  You can do this several ways.  The
simplest is to move in close and get a reading from the subject
only, holding the exposure lock move back and take the picture. 
You can also dial in a couple of stops of exposure compensation
(overexposure).  

2. You can use fill flash to brighten the subject a couple of
stops.  If you get it just right this has the advantage of
making the exposure out the window match the exposure of the
subject.
--Tom


Scott Dillard wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I have had great help so far with questions and figured I might as well pile
> them on tonight.
> 1. I took (am still relatively new to photography) some pictures of a family
> member in the family room here at home in the afternoon with bright sunlight
> directly behind him through four windows (only a few feet behind him
> actually) and the pictures turned up quite dark.  I was about five feet in
> front of him. I used a Pentax ZX-7 in autofocus-program mode (auto picture).
> I believe that the camera under-exposed (metered) the light in the
> background (parts of the window were well-lit) and left the subject (my
> uncle) in the dark.  Should I have overexposed the pic a few stops to
> accomodate this type of picture.  I only took a few and didn't think
> anything of it until I got the pictures back and so what happened.  What
> else could I have done?  I don't have bracketing.
> 
> Next,
> another problem.
> In the same batch of pictures, I took a picture of another family member
> with the light behind me through the windows.  I was about two feet in front
> of the windows and my subject was about five feet in front of me.  The
> pictures came back with a wierd color on them and a fake looking sort of
> flourescent light.  Would this be backlighting and should I have covered the
> camera with something to get a better exposure?
> 
> I hope this is not too much typing and information.  I am a teacher and have
> a tendency to over-explain and in the process, miss out on a more simplified
> explanation that would probably make more sense anyway.

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Re: Grandfather Mountain (was Re: Pentax clubs)

2001-01-23 Thread Bill Owens



> You guys are fortunate. I got a five hour drive from Augusta but it will
be
> well worth it. Maybe we should show up at registration with a Pentax
around
> our neck so we can identify each other. Anyone else got any ideas on this?
>
>Casey Szocinski

That will make at least 5 of us that will be there then.  We'll have to post
a photo on the first open PUG after that to make everyone else wish they'd
been there too.

Bill
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Re: M 200/4

2001-01-23 Thread PAUL STENQUIST


I like the M200/4 and use it quite a bit. While it's a bit slow, it's
very compact, adequately sharp and contrasty. However, I've heard the
SMC Pentax 200/4 is slightly better, although heavier and larger.
However, I think $139 is a shade more than you'd pay on ebay. This lens
is desirable, but it is very plentiful and frequently sells for slightly
less than $100.
Paul
Scott Dillard wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> What does everybody think about a Pentax 200 F-4 prime lens manual focus A
> at $139 in bargain condition and/or Pentax 200 F-4 prime lens manual focus M
> at $139 in excellent condition  at KEH instead of a Pentax 80-320 zoom
> telephoto lens in new condition for about 70 dollars more new.  Jeez, what a
> long sentence.  Actually, I wouldn't mind input on how good the manual
> lenses are without any input on a comparison with a zoom 80-320. Anyway, any
> of these lenses would go on a Pentax ZX-7 or ZM.  Any advice would greatly
> be appreciated.
> 
> Thankyou in advance,
> Scott
> 
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Re: PENTAX SMC M 35/2 LENS

2001-01-23 Thread PAUL STENQUIST

Last time I saw one on KEH it was over $200 US.
Paul

Peter Jordan wrote:
> 
> Price looks somewhat high to me. I picked mine up in our local (UK) camera
> store just before Xmas for GBP 40 (say $60)
> 
> Peter
> - Original Message -
> From: Gary L. Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Pentax Users Group <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 3:20 AM
> Subject: PENTAX SMC M 35/2 LENS
> 
> > Spotted on eBay
> >
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1209571564
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Later,
> > Gary
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Wolfskin was(Why do we? was: Tripods, cable extensions...?)

2001-01-23 Thread Peter Alling

You're all being too too sensitive, it wasn't a joke
kill all the wolves, (issue machine guns to 6 year
olds if necessary), everyone should have a wolf skin
coat while the supply lasts
(tired of all the PC apologies)

--- Tom Rittenhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As was my reply.
> 
> Bob Walkden wrote:
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Tom Rittenhouse wrote:
> > 
> > > Bob Walkden wrote:
> > >> No. The real answer is to use wolfskin.
> > 
> > > Why do I find this idea so abominable?
> > > --Tom (AKA graywolf)
> > 
> > ..erm, before anybody else gets the wrong idea I
> think I should point
> > out that it was meant to be a joke.
> 
> 
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Re: Grandfather Mountain (was Re: Pentax clubs)

2001-01-23 Thread Bill Owens



> You guys are fortunate. I got a five hour drive from Augusta but it will
be
> well worth it. Maybe we should show up at registration with a Pentax
around
> our neck so we can identify each other. Anyone else got any ideas on this?
>
>Casey Szocinski


I'll be wearing a Pentax shirt for sure and a hat if I can find mine.  I'll
also have the biggest belly there.

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Re: Why do we? was: Tripods, cable extensions...?

2001-01-23 Thread Peter Alling

You're all being too too sensitive, it wasn't a joke
kill all the wolves, (issue machine guns to 6 year
olds if necessary), everyone should have a wolf skin
coat while the supply lasts
(tired of all the PC apologies)

--- Tom Rittenhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As was my reply.
> 
> Bob Walkden wrote:
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Tom Rittenhouse wrote:
> > 
> > > Bob Walkden wrote:
> > >> No. The real answer is to use wolfskin.
> > 
> > > Why do I find this idea so abominable?
> > > --Tom (AKA graywolf)
> > 
> > ..erm, before anybody else gets the wrong idea I
> think I should point
> > out that it was meant to be a joke.
> 
> 
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Wolfskin was(Why do we? was: Tripods, cable extensions...?)

2001-01-23 Thread Peter Alling

You're all being too too sensitive, it wasn't a joke
kill all the wolves, issue machine guns to 6 year olds
if necessary, (they'll like that), everyone should
have a wolf skin coat while the supply lasts
(tired of all the PC apologies!)

--- Tom Rittenhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As was my reply.
> 
> Bob Walkden wrote:
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Tom Rittenhouse wrote:
> > 
> > > Bob Walkden wrote:
> > >> No. The real answer is to use wolfskin.
> > 
> > > Why do I find this idea so abominable?
> > > --Tom (AKA graywolf)
> > 
> > ..erm, before anybody else gets the wrong idea I
> think I should point
> > out that it was meant to be a joke.
> 
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Wolfskin was(Why do we? was: Tripods, cable extensions...?)

2001-01-23 Thread Peter Alling

You're all being too too sensitive, it wasn't a joke
kill all the wolves, issue machine guns to 6 year olds
if necessary, (they'll like that), everyone should
have a wolf skin coat while the supply lasts
(tired of all the PC apologies!)

--- Tom Rittenhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As was my reply.
> 
> Bob Walkden wrote:
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Tom Rittenhouse wrote:
> > 
> > > Bob Walkden wrote:
> > >> No. The real answer is to use wolfskin.
> > 
> > > Why do I find this idea so abominable?
> > > --Tom (AKA graywolf)
> > 
> > ..erm, before anybody else gets the wrong idea I
> think I should point
> > out that it was meant to be a joke.
> 
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Re: Grandfather Mountain (was Re: Pentax clubs)

2001-01-23 Thread Macpaz

You guys are fortunate. I got a five hour drive from Augusta but it will be 
well worth it. Maybe we should show up at registration with a Pentax around 
our neck so we can identify each other. Anyone else got any ideas on this?

   Casey Szocinski
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Re: Grandfather Mountain (was Re: Pentax clubs)

2001-01-23 Thread Bill Owens



> If god, weather, and finances permit I will.  Home is in
> Charlotte, NC.
> --Tom

Gosh, we're almost neighbors.  I'm in Gastonia

Bill
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Re: OT: Las Vegas and Cameras

2001-01-23 Thread Steve Larson

Hi Len,
 I was there in May for anniversary no. 7, and asked a pitboss about taking
photos, he said snap away! I got a great shot of the gamblers at the craps
table, but is on slide and never had a print made, and I can`t scan prints
yet, or I`d show you.
Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California
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Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 3:33 PM
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> 
> 
> > Hi Len,
> >  It does`nt matter if the customers want to be
> > photographed or not,
> > you can shoot all you want in casinos now. The shows
> > may be another
> > story. About 2 years ago they changed the law about
> > cameras in casinos.
> > Steve Larson
> > Redondo Beach, California
> 
> Good deal!  Redondo Beach is not a terribly long way from Vegas,
> so I will take your response an being the most current
> information, unless someone here has been there more recently
> than a couple of years ago.
> 
> Len
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Develop Film in Coffee (was Re: Toxicity)

2001-01-23 Thread Mike Johnston



> Check this out:
> 
> http://www.rit.edu/~andpph/text-coffee.html
> - -- 
> Shel Belinkoff



Interesting. I guess you can find anything on the web. I published that
article in _PHOTO Techniques_ in '95 or '96. BTW, Scott Williams is no
longer at RIT.

--Mike

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Re: OT: (Somewhat) Is this true for you?

2001-01-23 Thread Mike Johnston



> Actually Ed, I think I can do you one better. I prefer the 55
> f1.8 (gasp) for my choice of one lens.



Yep, I think I'm home. Love this list.




--Mike

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Re: PZ-1p : First Impressions

2001-01-23 Thread Tiger Moses

I personally like the ZX-5n better, since I can choose zones,
but the PZ-1p seems to realy move the lens faster.
I have trained myself not to bullseye my subjects, but now I have to get
back to focusing in the exact center,
a little retraining!
Now depending on what I am shooting,
I may get spoiled by the server focus option on the PZ-1p in the future.
So I assume the MZ-S(?) will have both options!!!


At 07:54 PM 1/23/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>So how do you rate the AF as compared to the ZX5N?
>
>Thanks,
>Ed
>- Original Message -
>From: "Tiger Moses" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 2:12 PM
>Subject: PZ-1p : First Impressions
>
>
>> My PZ-1p arrived yesterday, along with a Tamron 90mm Macro.
>> All I can say is I am glad I got each item!
>>
>> I shot a roll of 36 today to break the team in.  The shutter or mirror or
>> combo of both, on the PZ-1p give me a rush when it fires.  A friend was
>> showing off his medium format Auto focus camera to me a few months ago and
>> said "fire it once, you have to feel it".  Well, I got that same feeling
>in
>> a smaller body with this.  Feels solid.  I look forward to finding the
>grip,
>> I can see where I would like it, if I want to shoot without a neck strap.
>> I still am a little confused by some of the exposure modes, but I knew how
>> to adjust shutter and aperature, so I think I should come out ok.  I did
>> read the manual, just haven't memorized it all.
>> I tried a double exposure and a triple exposure and look forward to seeing
>> the results.  Couldn't ask for that to be any easier to do.
>>
>> When you set the drive mode into multiple and hold that shutter
>down...wow!
>>
>> I found it of course is heavier than the ZX-5n or SF-10, but its not
>> unmanageable in any way.  The LED tell you everything you need to know and
>I
>> am already getting used to most of the dial & buttons.
>>
>> With the body selling for under $500, I think this is a powerful machine.
>> If you have invested in Pentax glass, this will be the ultimate counter
>part.
>>
>> I didn't use, but can see the servo focus mode coming in handy at my next
>> sporting event!
>>
>> The macro feel great and performs wonderfully.  It talks to the PZ-1p
>perfectly.
>> It gets you almost to close!  When I was near the 1:1, I really wished for
>> the tripod as I was shaking so much (from the excitement?) the camera had
>to
>> keep refocusing because of my movements!
>>
>> Saturday is a Civil War re-enactment in my area, which I broke in my
>Tamron
>> 300 2.8f on last year.  I'll be burning some film with my new tools this
>year.
>> If you are in the Houston area, and having nothing planned for Saturday
>> morning, let me know and we can hook up and shoot together.  Great
>costumes,
>> scenery and wonderful people!
>>
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RE: MY WEBPAGE WITH PHOTOS

2001-01-23 Thread Tiger Moses

I dont think it matters what browser, as much a our possible route
we are taking.  Maybe cached server type stuff.
I haven't seen the page at all on my home or office machine,
but both are both through a Houston, TX based service provider

At 07:13 PM 1/23/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>On Tue, 23 Jan 2001 15:33:40 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> http://www.volny.cz/ffranta/index.html
>
>For me, it shows up as an empty page in IE 5 and Opera 5. I get the
>"this page contains no data" from Netscape 4.76. For some reason I
>can't get Mozilla 0.6 or 0.7 to run at the moment.
>
Tiger Moses

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No Subject

2001-01-23 Thread Scott Dillard

Hi,
What does everybody think about a Pentax 200 F-4 prime lens manual focus A
at $139 in bargain condition and/or Pentax 200 F-4 prime lens manual focus M
at $139 in excellent condition  at KEH instead of a Pentax 80-320 zoom
telephoto lens in new condition for about 70 dollars more new.  Jeez, what a
long sentence.  Actually, I wouldn't mind input on how good the manual
lenses are without any input on a comparison with a zoom 80-320. Anyway, any
of these lenses would go on a Pentax ZX-7 or ZM.  Any advice would greatly
be appreciated.

Thankyou in advance,
Scott

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problem with exposure w/ a well-lit window in background

2001-01-23 Thread Scott Dillard

Hi,
I have had great help so far with questions and figured I might as well pile
them on tonight.
1. I took (am still relatively new to photography) some pictures of a family
member in the family room here at home in the afternoon with bright sunlight
directly behind him through four windows (only a few feet behind him
actually) and the pictures turned up quite dark.  I was about five feet in
front of him. I used a Pentax ZX-7 in autofocus-program mode (auto picture).
I believe that the camera under-exposed (metered) the light in the
background (parts of the window were well-lit) and left the subject (my
uncle) in the dark.  Should I have overexposed the pic a few stops to
accomodate this type of picture.  I only took a few and didn't think
anything of it until I got the pictures back and so what happened.  What
else could I have done?  I don't have bracketing.

Next,
another problem.
In the same batch of pictures, I took a picture of another family member
with the light behind me through the windows.  I was about two feet in front
of the windows and my subject was about five feet in front of me.  The
pictures came back with a wierd color on them and a fake looking sort of
flourescent light.  Would this be backlighting and should I have covered the
camera with something to get a better exposure?

I hope this is not too much typing and information.  I am a teacher and have
a tendency to over-explain and in the process, miss out on a more simplified
explanation that would probably make more sense anyway.

Oh well,
Thanks in advance,
Scott

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RE: OT: Las Vegas and Cameras

2001-01-23 Thread Len Paris



> Hi Len,
>  It does`nt matter if the customers want to be
> photographed or not,
> you can shoot all you want in casinos now. The shows
> may be another
> story. About 2 years ago they changed the law about
> cameras in casinos.
> Steve Larson
> Redondo Beach, California

Good deal!  Redondo Beach is not a terribly long way from Vegas,
so I will take your response an being the most current
information, unless someone here has been there more recently
than a couple of years ago.

Len
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Re: PZ-1p : First Impressions

2001-01-23 Thread Jeff Tsai

I know the feeling too! Once you get used to the sound of the PZ-1p shutter,
the MZ series cameras begin to sound like a toy...

Cheers,

Jeff

> From: Tiger Moses <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 13:12:19 -0600
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: PZ-1p : First Impressions
> 
> The shutter or mirror or
> combo of both, on the PZ-1p give me a rush when it fires.

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Las Vegas and Cameras

2001-01-23 Thread fredd

Steve Larson wrote :

>  It does`nt matter if the customers want to be photographed or not,
 > you can shoot all you want in casinos now.

About taking pictures of customers in a casino, legally you are maybe
correct, but my advise would be to not take that risk.
First ask permission.
Some have their own guards and they have carte blanche with the local LEO's.
Accidents do happen and cameras get dropped.

fredd


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OT: Protective gear: was Glacial Acetic Acid. etc

2001-01-23 Thread Paul Ewins


> >For that, I wear a neoprene apron, neoprene gloves, goggles and
> >an ammonia mask.

Is there an ammonia mask that is actually usable? My first full time job
(1985) was developing and duplicating microfiche. The masters were done with
standard sort of film and developed in normal Ilford b&w developers but the
duplicates were developed using ammonia. It wasn't too bad until you had to
empty the waste bottles. The masks we had were hard to see out of and didn't
fit quite perfectly, so as you were craning your head this way and that to
see what the hell you were doing the mask would shift and you would get a
big dose of ammonia vapour inside the mask. In the end most people ignored
the mask and did things at arms length, down wind.

And then there was the time I went to pour the fixer into the overhead
replenishment system, but forgot to take the lid off the tank... Luckily we
had labcoats for the messy jobs.

BTW, the microfiche master film would have been about 4" wide in maybe 100 -
200' rolls which made the whole thing a computerised LF camera with a damn
big motor drive. The recording unit was about 5'x3'x3' - just a bit bigger
than an MX with a 250 shot back.

Paul Ewins,
Melbourne, Australia

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Re: Choosing a monopod....

2001-01-23 Thread Collin Brendemuehl


There's not much price difference between many of them.
Look at weight, total length, and collapsed length,
along with need, to determine the one (or maybe two?)
that you want.

jmho,

Collin

At 02:34 PM 1/23/01 -0500, you wrote:
>Wouldn't a 3 section monopod have more rigidity than a 4?
>Bogen has a 3 that opens from 27" to  65", weighs 29oz
>
>OTOH, Davis and Sanford makes one weighs only 16oz, has 4 sections, opens
>from 21" to 68', and costs $15 less than the Bogen...
>
>Also Velbron, 4 piece 20" to 63", and only 14oz!! (And $3 less than the
>D+S...)
>
>Decisions, decisions, and all about proportions!!
>(Anyone here seen "Spinal Tap"?)
>
>Any help here, citizens?
>Skip


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Re: Ebay! Item #1208414897

2001-01-23 Thread Joseph Tainter

Wieland, I take it that this lens is regularly available.

Please tell us why it is so inexpensive. A lens such as this from
Vivitar or Cosina or another company known for inexpensive optics would
still cost much, much more in the U.S. Does it have a reputation for
being a poor lens?

Also, is it still being made, or are these from old stock, manufactured
before unification when wages in the east were lower?

What do people in Europe think of this lens? It looks very interesting
for occasional use, unless the optics are poor quality. (For many years
I used an old, old Exakta with Zeiss Tessar lenses that were excellent.)

Thanks very much,

Joe
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RE: MY WEBPAGE WITH PHOTOS

2001-01-23 Thread Chris Brogden

On Tue, 23 Jan 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> This is interesting: In IE 5 you get white pages. With Netscape 4.7 you get
> "The document contained no data". I bet it works in Netscape 6; but that
> version is too buggy for my school, they won't let us install it...

I have IE 5 and it works fine.

chris

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SV: F 70-210 lenses

2001-01-23 Thread Jens Bladt

Hi Frantisec
I've tested this /F70-210mm/4-5.6 systematicly. It's eqaully very good at
ALL focal lengths
and ALL apertures! That's what makes it special.
Best Regards
Jens

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RE: MY WEBPAGE WITH PHOTOS

2001-01-23 Thread Dan Scott

I forgot to mention that the browser I am using is iCab 2.4. Maybe that's
why I can see them?

Dan Scott
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>This is interesting: In IE 5 you get white pages. With Netscape 4.7 you get
>"The document contained no data". I bet it works in Netscape 6; but that
>version is too buggy for my school, they won't let us install it...
>Sigh...
>JJ
>
>J. John Cohen, M.D., Ph.D.
>Department of Immunology, B-184
>University of Colorado Medical School
>Denver, CO 80262, USA
>phone: +1 303 315-8898
>fax:  +1 303 315-5967
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>
>
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>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Tuesday, 23 January, 2001 05:30
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: MY WEBPAGE WITH PHOTOS
>
>
>At 05:00 23.1.2001 -0500, you wrote:
>>Are these all pictures of polar bears in recent snowstorms?  All I see is a
>>blank page.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Ed
>
>Hmm... They show all right in my two old browsers (Opera & Netscape 3.0),
>but I will check the source again.
>
>Try it again, use the exact address: http://www.volny.cz/ffranta/index.html
>
>Fr.
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SV: Family vacation with children

2001-01-23 Thread Jens Bladt

Hi All
It really helps when then childre (mine) are 25 and 22 years :-)
Seriously, It's great to have grown up kids!
Lenses, I take:
20mm/2.8
50mm/1.4
28-70mm/2.8 (24-90mm when I get one)
70-210mm/4-5.6

Bets Regards
Jens
-Oprindelig meddelelse-
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Emne: Re: Family vacation with children



If you've got children along, is it really a vacation?

Perhaps 'vacation *for* children' would be a better description.

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SV: OT: (Somewhat) Is this true for you?

2001-01-23 Thread Jens Bladt

Hi All
One lens in the bag? That would be a 24-90mm (if I had one).
One prime lens in the bag? That would be the 20mm (or 15mm if I had one).
Wide angle pictures (rectiliniar) can be enlarged to telephote perspective.
The opposite is imposible.
Best Regards
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RE: MY WEBPAGE WITH PHOTOS

2001-01-23 Thread John . Cohen

This is interesting: In IE 5 you get white pages. With Netscape 4.7 you get
"The document contained no data". I bet it works in Netscape 6; but that
version is too buggy for my school, they won't let us install it...
Sigh...
JJ

J. John Cohen, M.D., Ph.D. 
Department of Immunology, B-184 
University of Colorado Medical School 
Denver, CO 80262, USA 
phone: +1 303 315-8898 
fax:  +1 303 315-5967 
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: MY WEBPAGE WITH PHOTOS


At 05:00 23.1.2001 -0500, you wrote:
>Are these all pictures of polar bears in recent snowstorms?  All I see is a
>blank page.
>
>Thanks,
>Ed

Hmm... They show all right in my two old browsers (Opera & Netscape 3.0),
but I will check the source again. 

Try it again, use the exact address: http://www.volny.cz/ffranta/index.html

Fr.

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Re: MY WEBPAGE WITH PHOTOS

2001-01-23 Thread Delano Mireles

Same here.  when I try to view the source nothing comes up - ODD


D

> From: "Michel Adam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 15:18:43 -0700
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: MY WEBPAGE WITH PHOTOS
> 
> Same here. I am using Internet Explorer 5 on an NT box, and all I see is
> snow.
> 
> Michel
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 05:29
> Subject: Re: MY WEBPAGE WITH PHOTOS
> 
> 
>> At 05:00 23.1.2001 -0500, you wrote:
>>> Are these all pictures of polar bears in recent snowstorms?  All I see is a
>>> blank page.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ed
>> 
>> Hmm... They show all right in my two old browsers (Opera & Netscape 3.0),
>> but I will check the source again.
>> 
>> Try it again, use the exact address: http://www.volny.cz/ffranta/index.html
>> 
>> Fr.
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Re: MY WEBPAGE WITH PHOTOS

2001-01-23 Thread Michel Adam

Same here. I am using Internet Explorer 5 on an NT box, and all I see is
snow.

Michel

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> At 05:00 23.1.2001 -0500, you wrote:
> >Are these all pictures of polar bears in recent snowstorms?  All I see is a
> >blank page.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Ed
> 
> Hmm... They show all right in my two old browsers (Opera & Netscape 3.0),
> but I will check the source again. 
> 
> Try it again, use the exact address: http://www.volny.cz/ffranta/index.html
> 
> Fr.
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Re: OT: (Somewhat) Is this true for you?

2001-01-23 Thread Tom Rittenhouse

To me the 100 gives the most natural perspective.  The farther I
deviate from it the more specialized the lens seems.
--Tom


dosk wrote:
> 
> Have you found for yourself an ideal "focal length" eye?  I was shooting
> with the 50mm and liking it a lot, but there was just a little something
> missing... And then the 2x TC was delivered and everything got so much
> better. I mean, the 50 seemed a little wide, seemed like most of the

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Re: MZ3 vs. MZ5n

2001-01-23 Thread Jon Hope

At 03:14 24/01/01, you wrote:
>Is it me or does the MZ3 focus faster and more
>acurately than the MZ5n? I tried them both the other
>day at the store with the same lens and the MZ3
>practically didn't hunt and focused much faster. The
>MZ5n would almost always hunt when I focused from one
>close point to a distant one. The store is kind of
>dark and it's night, though. Does anybody have
>experienced both bodies? Is that due to the 3 focus
>sensors on the MZ3?

I just got my MZ-3 on Friday, to replace an MZ-5n I had lost a few weeks 
ago. So far I have had all the same problems I had with my MZ-5n when it 
was new, the electrical contacts need to be cleaned to get rid of whatever 
it is that stops the AF from working properly.

The AF works about the same as my MZ-5n did. On single sensor, it has a 
habit of hunting worse than my Z-1p, but on 3 sensor AF it works a treat. 
Both the MZ-3 and MZ-5n have 3 AF sensors. The only difference I can detect 
with the MZ-3 over the MZ-5n (apart from 1/4000 shutter speed) is the 
shutter mechanism makes a totally different noise to the MZ-5n's. I don't 
know if they have the same shutter mechanism, or if it is just a sample 
variation.

I am happy having the 1/4000 top shutter speed, but if I had had to buy it 
I probably would have saved the couple of hundred dollars and bought the 
MZ-5n.

I'm having mixed feelings about the Sigma 105mm EX macro I got with the 
MZ-3. Everything looks great through the eyepiece, I just don't like the 
MF/AF setup. It is annoying me. I just hope it gets to be less annoying or 
I'll be looking for an FA 50mm macro pretty shortly.

Cheers

Jon

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Re: Toxicity (was Warning!)

2001-01-23 Thread Dan Scott

JoMac says:

>Almost all my recommended activities are probably one time events,
>performed to dispel the fear of doing anything the media (mostly TV) drum
>into your head every single day. Butter, eggs, red meat, and milk are
>their favorites.


That's the problem right there. TVs should come with a warning label
"Warning, prolonged exposure can lead to paranoia, delusions, loss of
identity, and mental decline."

Dan Scott
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Re: MY WEBPAGE WITH PHOTOS

2001-01-23 Thread Dan Scott

That's odd. I can see them, and all I'm drinking is coffee.

Dan Scott
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

>>Try it again, use the exact address: http://www.volny.cz/ffranta/index.html
>>
>>Fr.
>>
>that pages shows fine
>it links to two pages
>which both are white pages!!!
>
>http://www.volny.cz/ffranta/concerts.html
>http://www.volny.cz/ffranta/landscapes.html
>which has the following html source code:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>nothing between the BODY tags means nothing on our screens!!!
>
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Re: MY WEBPAGE WITH PHOTOS

2001-01-23 Thread canislupus


OOOPS, I will try to make it work. But the ftp server's got some problems
now, I can't upload any new files... it just freezes. ;(

At 13:29 23.1.2001 +0100, you wrote:
>At 05:00 23.1.2001 -0500, you wrote:
>>Are these all pictures of polar bears in recent snowstorms?  All I see is a
>>blank page.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Ed
>
>Hmm... They show all right in my two old browsers (Opera & Netscape 3.0),
>but I will check the source again. 
>
>Try it again, use the exact address: http://www.volny.cz/ffranta/index.html
>
>Fr.


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F 70-210 lenses

2001-01-23 Thread canislupus

Hi! After the recent praise on the Pentax F 70-210/4-5.6 zoom, I almost
decided that I would add something small like it to my camera bag. At least
it would be another AF lens for my new SFXn (I already have fast mf lenses
in this focal length, primes, but MUCH bigger and heavier).
I looked at PHOTODO (which I don't completely believe, but by comparing
their ratings and grpahs with lenses I have which are tested there too, I
can make myself a good image of it), and found that the F 70-210/4-5.6 is
pretty good for a zoom in this FL and speed. Anybody's comments? Even that
I want this zoom for casual photography, in bright light, I certainly can
see moments when I won't have anything else with me, and so would like to
know its performance WIDE OPEN. I kind of except a good performer from the
photodo test result, so what's your experience at big blowups/enlargements?
8x10" least.

Thanks

Frantisek

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Re: MY WEBPAGE WITH PHOTOS

2001-01-23 Thread Tiger Moses


>Try it again, use the exact address: http://www.volny.cz/ffranta/index.html
>
>Fr.
>
that pages shows fine
it links to two pages
which both are white pages!!!

http://www.volny.cz/ffranta/concerts.html
http://www.volny.cz/ffranta/landscapes.html
which has the following html source code:








nothing between the BODY tags means nothing on our screens!!!

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Re: MY WEBPAGE WITH PHOTOS

2001-01-23 Thread canislupus

At 05:00 23.1.2001 -0500, you wrote:
>Are these all pictures of polar bears in recent snowstorms?  All I see is a
>blank page.
>
>Thanks,
>Ed

Hmm... They show all right in my two old browsers (Opera & Netscape 3.0),
but I will check the source again. 

Try it again, use the exact address: http://www.volny.cz/ffranta/index.html

Fr.

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Re: PZ-1p : First Impressions

2001-01-23 Thread Tiger Moses


>>Saturday is a Civil War re-enactment in my area, which I broke in my Tamron
>>300 2.8f on last year. 
>
>How do you like the Tamron 300/2.8?
>I've been considering that lens since it seems that no one besides Pentax
makes one in Pentax AF
>mount.
>
>
I have hte manual focus version, in Adaptall mount.  I figured that would be
easiest to resell any time in the future.  It is a serious lens, and works
great on auto aperature with my KA2 stuff.  I have used it very successfully
at Houston Astro baseball games during the daytime with the Pentax 1.7x AF
telecon to make a outstanding 510mm f4.5ish.  Thats is a nice autofocus!!!
Two weekends ago, I wore the lens with a fatter than usual neckstrap for a
few hours at the San Antonio Zoo, and it wasn't uncomfortable.  I think mine
was around $1400 from KEH, in Excellent (my definition) condition!

I don't regret that purchase at all either.  With the In Focus Indicator on
the modern cameras, you get a little help with your manual focus!
If you get a used one, be sure it includes the HOOD and a Skylight or UV
filter, or price a 112mm filter, becuase you want to protect that glass!

And I tell you one thing, when I am toting that lens with the hood on, I get
respect!

The only think I really don't like is the color!  Its like a milatary drab
type thing, whcih may be great for nature.  I saw one once that was camo
colored, don't know if that was a custom one from factory or not, but it
looked cool!

Also, you need a worth tripod and a worth case (like a pelican) for storing
and transporting this monster!

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Re: Spotmatic batteries

2001-01-23 Thread Kristian-H. Schüssler


- Original Message -
From: "Wieland Willker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Pentax-list-NEW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 2:26 PM
Subject: Spotmatic batteries


> I have just found out an interesting bit about the Spotmatics and
that is that it uses
> Mercury batteries (e.g. PX625), which are not produced anymore (at
least not in Germany).
> It is therefore quite difficult to get those batteries and keep
the Spotmatic working. Is
> this true and are there any work-arounds?


Hallo Wieland,
   habe selbst noch zwei SPOTMATICS, eine fest
eingebaut
in einer Reproduktionsanlage, da brauche ich keine
Belichtungsmessung,
aber für das zweite Gehäuse, mit dem ich gelegentlich noch
Makro-Aufnahmen
mache (wegen dem Schraubgewinde am Balgengerät) ,
steht leider der Kauf Batterien an.

Solltest Du eine Lösung finden, bitte ich Dich herzlich, mir
entweder eine
Nachricht
zukommen zu lassen oder mich an einer Bestellaktion zu beteiligen.

Kürzlich in Strasbourg existierten alle vier Photogeschäfte, die ich
dort
am Münster und im Zentrum gekannt habe, nicht mehr -
mussten Mode, Souvenirs oder Restaurants weichen.

MfG
Kristian-H. Schüssler


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Re: Choosing a monopod....

2001-01-23 Thread John Francis

dosk wrote:
> 
> Wouldn't a 3 section monopod have more rigidity than a 4?

Not if they both extend to the same maximum length, and the
added 4th section is of greater diameter than the first three.

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Re: PZ-1p : First Impressions

2001-01-23 Thread John Francis

Mark Roberts wrote:
> 
> Tiger Moses wrote:
> 
> >Saturday is a Civil War re-enactment in my area, which I broke in my Tamron
> >300 2.8f on last year.
> 
> How do you like the Tamron 300/2.8?
> I've been considering that lens since it seems that no one besides Pentax makes one 
>in Pentax AF
> mount.

I used to own the Tamron(MF) until I got a good deal on an A* 300/2.8.

It's almost as good as the Pentax - the only way to tell them apart is
to use them wide open, and even then you really need to use TCs to see
any differences.

The main reason I decided to hang on to the Pentax lens was because of
the inconvenience of fitting and removing TCs on the Tamron - it's not
as easy a hookup as simply fitting the Pentax TCs.

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Re: PZ-1p : First Impressions

2001-01-23 Thread Tiger Moses

At 02:37 PM 1/23/01 -0800, you wrote:
>Tiger Moses wrote:
>
>
>>Saturday is a Civil War re-enactment in my area, which I broke in my Tamron
>>300 2.8f on last year. 
>
>How do you like the Tamron 300/2.8?
>I've been considering that lens since it seems that no one besides Pentax
makes one in Pentax AF
>mount.
>

Excellent example on ebay #1208652938
it has everything
there are 3 of them actually, all under the Nikon section!
Looks like $1000 is average top price recentlyone guy paid $1500, but
new from B&H is $2368
B&H AF Pentax 4699but SMCP-A (manual focus) $5152

so ebay is less than 1/2 price
Ask if black model, guess that is latest generation paint


Who knows when Sigma will release their Pentax AF, guess you could call them!

I like minegot from KEH for around $1400 so I knew I could return in 14
days if not pleased.
Make sure you get the 112mm UV filter, or add that to your cost.

I wore mine for a few hours last week at the zoo witha extra wide neck
strap...No real problems, I was suprised.
With my pentax 1.7aAF Telecon, this makes an awesome 510mm autofocus f5 lens!!!

If you were in the Houston area, I'd let you try mineand when you got it
with the hood on it, people move out of your way when they see you coming!!!

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Re: PENTAX SMC M 35/2 LENS

2001-01-23 Thread Gary L. Murphy

On Tue, 23 Jan 2001 19:37:18 -, Peter Jordan wrote:

>Price looks somewhat high to me. I picked mine up in our local (UK) camera
>store just before Xmas for GBP 40 (say $60)

Yeah, I thought it a bit on the high side myself. But someone must have wanted it 
since they used "Buy it 
Now" for $125.00  :-)





Later,
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Re: Develop Film in Coffee (was Re: Toxicity)

2001-01-23 Thread Gerald Cermak

Hmm...20 minutes to develop a print in coffee?

Very interesting link Shell, thanks for sharing it.



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Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 9:44 AM
Subject: Develop Film in Coffee (was Re: Toxicity)


> Check this out:
> 
> http://www.rit.edu/~andpph/text-coffee.html
> -- 
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RE: MZ3 vs. MZ5n

2001-01-23 Thread Andy Harbin

AFAIK they both have the same AF system.  However, I would expect them to
focus differently if one was in spot AF mode and the other was in wide AF
mode. (little switch on the shutter side of the lens on BOTH cameras)  We
considered getting the 3, but got the 5n because of cost and availability.
No regrets.

Andy Harbin, P.Eng
Mechanical Engineer
Aiolos Engineering, Toronto

 -Original Message-
From:   herbet brasileiro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Tuesday, January 23, 2001 2:14 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:MZ3 vs. MZ5n

Is it me or does the MZ3 focus faster and more
acurately than the MZ5n? I tried them both the other
day at the store with the same lens and the MZ3
practically didn't hunt and focused much faster. The
MZ5n would almost always hunt when I focused from one
close point to a distant one. The store is kind of
dark and it's night, though. Does anybody have
experienced both bodies? Is that due to the 3 focus
sensors on the MZ3?
Herbet.


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Pentax K 28mm f/3.5 diaphragm sticking, what to do?

2001-01-23 Thread Mike Johnston



> I recently bought a K28mm f/3.5. However, the diaphragm sticks a little
> just enough to get overexposure. I can use the lens with my MX by using
> the DOF preview, but that I forget it all of the time. I read that it is
> possible to clean the diaphragm. Anyone have the procedure and what tools
> I need for this lens?


I think what you need is called a "camera repairman." 

--Mike




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Re: Spotmatic batteries

2001-01-23 Thread Gerald Cermak

I've heard different answers.  Supposedly, the Spotmatic F's use a bridge
circuit similar (identical?) to the K1000, and hence their meter calibration
is not affected by battery voltage.  However, older Spotmatics (500, 1000,
SP, SPII) don't seem to have this type of circuit.  Their meter is affected
by battery voltage - how much so, I don't know.  The use of the mercury
battery was due to its steady voltage during its lifetime.  No other battery
chemistry has such a stable output voltage vs. life.

My camera shop recommends a diode being added to my older Spotmatics when
switching from mercury to silver oxide batteries.  It is designed for just
this purpose, and cost's about $10 (meter calibration not included).  They
then calibrate the meter with a silver oxide battery.  I have no complaints
about the metering of my Spotmatics using this fix.

About 6 months ago, there was a gentleman from Austria selling new old stock
mercury batteries for the Spotmatics on Ebay.  In the fridge, they should
have a shelf life of many decades.

Cheers,
Gerald


- Original Message -
From: "Wieland Willker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Pentax-list-NEW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 5:26 AM
Subject: Spotmatic batteries


> I have just found out an interesting bit about the Spotmatics and that is
that it uses
> Mercury batteries (e.g. PX625), which are not produced anymore (at least
not in Germany).
> It is therefore quite difficult to get those batteries and keep the
Spotmatic working. Is
> this true and are there any work-arounds?
>
> Best wishes
> Wieland
>   <><
> ---
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Re: PZ-1p : First Impressions

2001-01-23 Thread Alexandre A. P. Suaide



Tiger Moses wrote:
> 
> My PZ-1p arrived yesterday, along with a Tamron 90mm Macro.
> All I can say is I am glad I got each item!
> 

Great  I bought this camera a few months ago and it is 
really amazing the stuff this camera can do. Last week I was
visiting B&H and I went for the first time to the Nikon stand
and asked for a F100. I hold it, play a little with the focus
exposure, etc etc etc and I felt very happy I bought my PZ-1P
for 1/3 of the price and almost the same characteristics. What
I miss so much in this camera is a decent data back to print
exposure information between prints 

congratulations for the camera

Alex


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Re: PENTAX SMC M 35/2 LENS

2001-01-23 Thread tom

I think I paid about $US150 for mineI think Mike got a pretty good
deal.

tv

Peter Jordan wrote:
> 
> Price looks somewhat high to me. I picked mine up in our local (UK) camera
> store just before Xmas for GBP 40 (say $60)
> 
> Peter
> - Original Message -
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> Subject: PENTAX SMC M 35/2 LENS
> 
> > Spotted on eBay
> >
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1209571564
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Later,
> > Gary
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Re: PENTAX SMC M 35/2 LENS

2001-01-23 Thread Peter Jordan

Price looks somewhat high to me. I picked mine up in our local (UK) camera
store just before Xmas for GBP 40 (say $60)

Peter
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> Spotted on eBay
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1209571564
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Re: Spotmatic batteries

2001-01-23 Thread Chris Brogden

On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, Wieland Willker wrote:

> I have just found out an interesting bit about the Spotmatics and that
> is that it uses Mercury batteries (e.g. PX625), which are not produced
> anymore (at least not in Germany). It is therefore quite difficult to
> get those batteries and keep the Spotmatic working. Is this true and
> are there any work-arounds?

It's relatively easy in Canada to get the mercury PX625, but the ones I've
seen were made in Germany (I think) by Varta, so if you can't get them,
that's odd.  Try some stores in Canada and see what they say, if you don't
mind the shipping costs.

chris

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Re: OT: (Somewhat) Is this true for you?

2001-01-23 Thread Ann Sanfedele

I'm definitely approx. a 50mm.  Which is why it is my fave lens I guess.
annsan

dosk wrote:

> This is really interesting. 2 out of 2 responses so far have both indicated
> they have "wide angle eyes". I wonder if I have the 100mm "normal" eye
> because I used to paint, and I always like to set up things to fit on a
> smaller sized canvas?
> Skip
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Re: OT: (Somewhat) Is this true for you?

2001-01-23 Thread D. Glenn Arthur Jr.

Matjaz OSOJNIK wrote:
> > Dosk wrote:
> > Have you found for yourself an ideal "focal length" eye?

No, not really, though Matjaz' comments struck a chord.

> Well, for me, 50 mm is generally to wide or to narrow. If I try to
> focus on something in the room or around me, (you know, when you look
> in one direction and draw imaginary frames in your mind)  than I find
> 85 mm to be the exact match for my view. When I first tried 85 mm
> prime - a friend borrowed it to me - , I was amazed that it covered
> the view which I created in my head.


I _love_ my 85mm.  But I find 135mm is good much of the time as
well.

> However, when I try to see the whole scene, not just one particular
> frame that I created in my mind, than 50 mm is normally to narrow.
> My natural view in this case would be somewhere between 35 and 45 mm.
> Although, with wide angles, I prefer 24mm which I find wide just
> right and not too wide for distortion to be too evident.

I usually go right to the 24mm -- sometimes 35mm is enough, but when
I have the 35-105/3.5 mounted, I find myself frequently wishing for
a smidgen more width indoors.

But it's not just 24, 85, and 135 for me.  Quite often something
a long way away will catch my eye, and when I concentrate on it
my _mind_ filters out all but the center of my field of view, so
what I'm _seeing_ is not everything that my eyes send to my brain.
At those times, 300mm or longer really is how I'm seeing, and what
seems "natural" to me.

But at the same time I've noticed quite often lately that I'll
sight through a 50mm to decide whether to mount a wider or longer
lens in place of it, and discover that 50mm is just right.
(Shooting snow-covered sidewalks and front steps a few nights ago,
for example.)  And on the 35-105 every so often I look down and
notice I've got it set at about 60.  So as much as I'd hate to be
limited to 50mm for any length of time, it too is often how I see.

So I guess my answer to:

> > Have you found for yourself an ideal "focal length" eye?

really is "No."  I'm constantly re-framing my world as my attention
shifts, whether I have a camera in my hand or not.


-- Glenn, was sick, now busy,
   skimming subject lines once
   in a while, not posting much
   this week.


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Re: OT: Las Vegas and Cameras

2001-01-23 Thread Gerald Wang

On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Len Paris wrote:
> Will the casinos in Las Vegas let you wander around shooting
> pictures of the gambling?  How about shooting the shows?

I was in Vegas last month and noticed a lot of folks carrying cameras on
the casino floors. However, I did not see anyone actually taking photos. I
know here in Canada, you are not allowed to take photos but I did anyways:

http://pug.komkon.org/oct99/casino1.htm

As for the shows, we went to see EFX at the MBM Grand. When I asked the
ticket office I was told that photography was not allowed. However, at the
show they only asked us not to take *flash* photos. I was a bit annoyed
by this, as I had my PZ-1p loaded with Supra 800 film and all ready to go
back in my hotel room.

Gerald


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Re: OT: Las Vegas and Cameras

2001-01-23 Thread Ann Sanfedele

They take a very dim view of you taking pictures in the Casinos!
I'm not sure about the shows,  not my cup of tea, but I think it varies.

ann

Len Paris wrote:

> Will the casinos in Las Vegas let you wander around shooting
> pictures of the gambling?  How about shooting the shows?
>
> Len
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Re: OT: (Somewhat) Is this true for you?

2001-01-23 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Sorry, Ed - I totally agree - so you can't be alone in your weirdness:)
annsan

Ed Mathews wrote:

> OK, I'll be the list weirdo this time.  If I could have just one lens in my
> bag, it would be a 50mm F1.4.
>
> Thanks,
> Ed
> - Original Message -
> From: "tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 2:02 AM
> Subject: Re: OT: (Somewhat) Is this true for you?
>
> > Maybe.
> >
> > Are you sure you have telephoto eyes? Have you tried a WA yet? You
> > hadn't mentioned one, just the 50 and tc.
> >
> > Better hope you like wides, 'cuz if you're a tele guy, you're going to
> > have to sell your car and start lifting weights to get ready for that
> > 600/4. ;)
> >
> > BTW, I like wides. My favorite lens is a 20-35. A prime would probably
> > be a 28, though in practice I usually prefer a 24 or 35.
> >
> > tv
> >
> > dosk wrote:
> > >
> > > This is really interesting. 2 out of 2 responses so far have both
> indicated
> > > they have "wide angle eyes". I wonder if I have the 100mm "normal" eye
> > > because I used to paint, and I always like to set up things to fit on a
> > > smaller sized canvas?
> > > Skip
> > >
> > > >I know they call 45-55mm the normal range lenses, but it seems as if my
> eye
> > > > >sees things in 100mm
> > > > >Has this happened to you?
> > > > >Skip
> > > >
> > > > Yes, but with me it goes the other way. 35 looks "normal" to me.
> > > >
> > > > Dan Scott
> > >
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Re: OT: Las Vegas and Cameras

2001-01-23 Thread Daniel J. Matyola

Nice picture of Vegas, Tom, but they reminded me of how much I hate the devil's
theme park!
Dan

tom wrote:

> They might end up looking like this:
>
> http://bigdayphoto.com/tom/images/gambler.jpg
>
> http://bigdayphoto.com/tom/images/slots1.jpg
>
> Of course, I cannot condone or recommend such activity, and there are
> other things to shoot:
>
> http://bigdayphoto.com/tom/images/eiffel.jpg
>
> http://bigdayphoto.com/tom/images/the-strip.jpg

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RE: OT: Las Vegas and Cameras

2001-01-23 Thread Matamoros, Cesar A.

Interesting, I was there in October and did not see this at all.  It
is true that I did not use the flash at all, but I openly walked with my
camera in my hand.  Being that it was a digital and using available light it
is not as if I was taking quick shots.  I would compose and steady myself
and wait for the right amount of people to be in the viewfinder.

I have to go back and see what I took pictures of.  I did not stand
by any of the tables and such and point the camera at the players.  Maybe
this is the difference.

I did not attend any shows.  I do plan on it the next time I am out
there.

Just another input,

César
Panama City, Florida

> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 7:27 AM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  Re: OT:  Las Vegas and Cameras
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> << Will the casinos in Las Vegas let you wander around shooting
>  pictures of the gambling?  How about shooting the shows?  >>
> 
> Len,
> 
> Cameras in the casinos were a no-no.  Some spots wouldn't even let me
> enter 
> with a camera around my neck.  Others would let you in but frown on any 
> picture taking.  I thought it was a security issue.
> 
> I have no idea about shooting the shows.
> 
> Regards,  Bob S.
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Re: PZ-1P & Pentax "M" Lenses ?

2001-01-23 Thread Gerald Wang

On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, Frank Knapik wrote:
> Hello. I have a couple of questions regarding the use of Pentax "M" lenses with my 
>PZ-1P:
> 
> 1) Can you set the aperture of M lenses with the camera, or do you have
> to use the aperture ring on the lens? 

You have to use the aperture ring. You can only set the aperture using the
camera if you are using lenses that have an "A" aperture setting (and you
must also set it to A). 

> 2) Does the spot metering mode work well with M lenses?

Spot metering and center-weighted will work with M lenses - they're the
only ones the body will let you select when you have an M lens attached. 
Matrix metering will not work - for this you need A lenses as well. 

Both of the above also apply to the original K (not KA) lenses.

Regards,

Gerald

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Shutter speed = focal length = no shake

2001-01-23 Thread Rory Flynn



Somebody once told me (I read?) that a useful rule 
of thumb to avoid camera-shake was to use a shutter speed greater than the focal 
length. My Digital Ixus has a focal length range of 5.4mm-10.8mm and I can get 
shake. Was the original advice true because of some fortunate relationship 
between the size of the negative and the focal 
length?


Re: Las Vegas and Cameras

2001-01-23 Thread Norman Baugher

No.

From: Len Paris 
> Will the casinos in Las Vegas let you wander around shooting
> pictures of the gambling?  How about shooting the shows?


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Re: Toxicity

2001-01-23 Thread Norman Baugher

I think it was Bob Blakely who posted it...
Norm

From: Dennis Klimovich 
> John wrote: Coffee as a developer?? Now that _is_ cool.
> ---
> Hi John and all.
> Two years ago I saw (by link from PDMLers) article on the
> web about real use of coffe as developer...
> Maybe someone remember where is it?


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