Re: Color Neg Film Balanced for Tungsten

[Chris Brogden]

On Sat, 3 Feb 2001, herbet brasileiro wrote:

> Isn't Fuji Reala tungsteen balanced? I haven't tried
> yet but I was reading CTEIN book and he mentions the
> new technology incorporated in Reala that allows it to
> show tungsteen and fluorescent lights in their true
> colors not the greenish or yellowish common to other
> emulsions.

I'm only heard about the fluorescent balancing, not about the
tungsten.  I doubt that it can be reasonably well corrected for daylight,
tungsten, *and* fluorescent lighting, or else it would be a lot more
popular than it currently is.  :)

chris

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Re: Color Neg Film Balanced for Tungsten

[herbet brasileiro]

Isn't Fuji Reala tungsteen balanced? I haven't tried
yet but I was reading CTEIN book and he mentions the
new technology incorporated in Reala that allows it to
show tungsteen and fluorescent lights in their true
colors not the greenish or yellowish common to other
emulsions.
Herbet.

--- Chris Brogden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 3 Feb 2001, William Robb wrote:
> 
> > Kodak Portra 100T is available in sheets, and 120,
> but strangely
> > enough, not 35mm.
> 
> The 35mm version is relatively recent, from what I
> remember... as in the
> past year or so, and maybe less.  We sometimes have
> it in at Don's, but
> not always.
> 
> :)
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Re: How To Send Plain Text in AOL Version 6.0

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Re: Tilt Shift lens for 35mm

[Todd Stanley]

Must be like one of those soft lenses, turn a ring and dial in the amount
of distortion you want :)  LOL.

Todd

At 12:57 AM 2/4/01 EST, you wrote:
>Speaking of the K/A 15/3.5, there's one on eBay right now, billed as a 
>"PENTAX SMC K 15MM FISH EYE RECTALINEAR" (both distorted and distortionless 
>at the same time, no less - ) - 
>http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1212171427
>
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Pentax 100mm f2.8 MACRO Lens *F* vs *FA*

[barry c.]

Hi,

I am currently trying to decide between the Pentax
100mm f2.8 Macro Autofocus SMC-F and SMCP-FA versions.

Optically, are they similar?  I can pick up the *F*
version for about $10 less used compared with the *FA*
version.

 Thanks in advance,

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Re: Color Neg Film Balanced for Tungsten

[Chris Brogden]

On Sat, 3 Feb 2001, William Robb wrote:

> Kodak Portra 100T is available in sheets, and 120, but strangely
> enough, not 35mm.

The 35mm version is relatively recent, from what I remember... as in the
past year or so, and maybe less.  We sometimes have it in at Don's, but
not always.

:)
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OT: Anybody got good stories to share about reducing negatives?

[Sid Barras]

Hi all,

I've got some promising negatives, (Kodak HIE 35mm) save one troubling
aspect-- They're horribly over-developed
I can see on the -2 stop brackets that ta few might be worth trying to
save.
I've used Farmer's to good effect on prints, and I know it was
originally intended for negatives. I tried this once before on some
Ilford SFX, and the trouble I had was there didn't seem to be any
noticeable effect as the reducing was taking place. That is, until they
were fixed and dried, and I had some ultra thin negatives, too thin to
print.
Does anyone have good stories to tell about reducing negatives?
Any advice on technique would be helpful too. (agitate? Scrub? none of
the above?)
thanks, as always,

Sid B

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Re: Tilt Shift lens for 35mm

[CetusPhoto]

In a message dated 2/4/2001 12:47:54 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> Unlike the filter choices in the K/A
> 15/3.5 (where one can select "no filter"),

Speaking of the K/A 15/3.5, there's one on eBay right now, billed as a 
"PENTAX SMC K 15MM FISH EYE RECTALINEAR" (both distorted and distortionless 
at the same time, no less - ) - 
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1212171427

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Re: ME Super question

[Mark Cassino]

At 10:28 PM 2/3/01 +0100, you wrote:
Anybody knows this?
With the compensation dial on the left: Is it possible to choose
intermediate steps  (e.g.
set it between 2x and 4x to get 3x) or does this not
work?
You can choose intermediate values and they will work. Basically the
exposure compensation wheel is just turning the same mechanism that sets
ASA, and ASA can be set to any value.  

Because the exposure comp dial is working the same mechanism, you cannot
set compensation beyond the maximum or miimum ASA, as you note
below.

PS: Interesting: When the ASA
film speed is set to 800 you cannot choose 1/4x, when it is
set to 1600 you cannot choose 1/2x. My first film with the camera was an
800 and I
couldn't choose 1/4x, so I thought this is a defect of the camera until
the next film with
100 ASA. Oh, well...  :-)
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Digital to Analog Flash Adapter

[Mark Cassino]

A few weeks ago I posted regarding flash options for the LX, and after 
severa; people's advice decided to stick with the AF220T I already had.

Of course, that meant that the flash would promptly start malfunctioning...

Now I'm wondering - before buying another flash - if there is perhaps an 
adapter to allow digital flashes (like the AF500FTZ) to be used on older 
analog flash bodies - like the LX. That would solve my problem perfectly...

Is there such a device?

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Re: A35-105/3.5 as a substitute for A35-70/4

[CetusPhoto]

In a message dated 2/3/2001 8:06:15 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>Yesterday, I found in a shop an A35-105/3.5 for JP\18,800 
>(approx. US$160).  From what I saw at the Stan's Lens Page,
>it has obtained fairly good reputations from PDMLers.
>I've got an A35-70/4 and an A70-210/4 to cover the rage. 
>I've been wondering if I should get one to replace the
>35-70.

My opinions:  The A 35-105/3.5 is slightly better optically than the A 
35-70/4 (except for macro use, where the A 35-70/4 is the best so-called 
"macro zoom" I've ever used).  The 35-105 offers a bit more speed, of course, 
and a bit less barrel distortion at 35mm.  But, the 35-70 is a while ~lot~ 
more compact and light, which is important some times.  I think the biggest 
advantage of the A 35-105/3.5 over the A 35-70/4 is its greater zoom range.  
(Actually, I much prefer the A 28-135/4 over the 35-105 for the same reason.) 
 Oh, one more thing - the build quality for the 35-105 (and the 28-135, too) 
is better than for the 35-70 (which is reasonably solid but still a bit 
"plasticky" for my tastes).

I have some specimen photos shot with each of the above lenses in the Lens 
Gallery (, mirrored at 
).

Fred

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Re: Tilt Shift lens for 35mm

[CetusPhoto]

In a message dated 2/3/2001 4:30:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>http://www.phred.org/pentax/k/
>They have a picture.

I also have some images shot ~through~ the lens, at 
.

The K 28/3.5 Shift is a pretty good 28mm lens (when used without the shift 
feature), but not spectacular.  For everyday use, I'd rather use an A 28/2 or 
a K 28/3.5 (and, this is for optical reasons, not just for compactness).

My number one complaint about the lens is that one is forced to choose one of 
its built-in filters at all times (and I ~hate~ that).  Unlike the filter 
choices in the K/A 15/3.5 (where one can select "no filter"), the 28/3.5 
Shift must have been designed by an engineer from Microsoft, since the most 
"filter-less" one can get is using its skylight filter.  ("Nya, nya - we know 
better than you do...)

It is only a ~shift~ lens, and has no tilt function, by the way.  And, there 
is definitely a limit to its shift ability, as shown in a couple of photos at 
the above URL.

Fred

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Re: Pentax 250 frame film back NEW

[Gary L. Murphy]

On Sat, 3 Feb 2001 19:07:14 -0800, Steve Larson wrote:

> It was a MX Motor Drive that the high bidder can contact him about. Someone

Whoops! Brain fart.  :-)






Later,
Gary


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Re: Cosina Limiteds?

[Yoshihiko Takinami]

Hello,

At 03 Feb 2001 20:52:23 -0600,
Mike Johnston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote;

> As I've stated several times now, it's just a rumor. I can't prove it and I
> don't necessarily believe it. It was posted by Stephen Gandy on his website,
> www.cameraquest.com (in the profile of the 43mm Limited lens, at the
> bottom)--that's all. I'm not endorsing his belief; neither am I willing to
> dismiss it. I do not know that it is true and I do not know that it is not
> true.

I visited the site at  and found
another incorrect informatiion on FA43/1.9 Limited.

He says the lens has aspherical elements in his web page about
Limited lenses.   In fact, FA43/1.9 has no aspherical element.

Just an information.
--
Yoshihiko Takinami
Osaka, Japan
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Re: Cosina Limiteds?

[Darren & Tara Sutherland]

Pal, FYI

The rumour started on Stephen Gandy's rangefinder site
"www.Cameraquest.com".  Apparently, the President/CEO etc. of Cosina was
asked if the Pentax LTDs were made by Cosina.  The fellow's answer was "no
comment ".

I however, have 100% faith that they are indeed all Asahi Pentax made.  They
employ the "Ghostless Coatings" and I doubt that technology would be farmed
out.

Darren S.

-Original Message-
From: Pål Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: February 3, 2001 11:29 AM
Subject: Re: Cosina Limiteds?


>Mike wrote:
>
>"Bear in mind that it's possible this is just a rumor. "
>
>
>REPLY:
>It isn't possible just a rumor; its a false rumor. In my previous post I
said that it was almost certainly bullshit. You can cut the almost; since
then I've gotten it confirmed (so have others it seems) that the Limited
lenses has nothing to do with Cosina (or anyone else except Pentax). So
whoever put this on his web page should remove it immediately since its
false.
>
>Pål
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Re: Delta 3200 Processing

[William Robb]

- Original Message -
From: "Brian Walsh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "pentax-discuss-digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: February 3, 2001 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: Delta 3200 Processing


> Aaron [who can tell ya all about Delta 3200 in Studional
(good),
> Microphen
> (really good), Rodinal (good), Microdol-X (bad) and a couple
of others
> that don't immediately spring to mind...but not D-76.] wrote:
>
> > Don't do it in the T-Max.
>
> I just shot my first roll of Delta 3200 in 120. It looks like
I'll
> really need to use EI 6400 for my purposes (shots of people
indoors,
> with slow lenses--f4.5). I realize that that's well above the
film's
> true speed--but can anyone recommend a good recipe to give me
that speed
> with good results? At 3200, Ilford's recommendations seemed to
produce
> rather thin negatives.

You could try Acufine. It wa my old standby when I needed to
push the crap out of some poor emulsion. Recording film at
12.800 or some such. I expect it would work with the Delta as
well.
William Robb
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Re: Delta 3200 Processing

[tom]

I wrote:
> 
> 
> Ilford only recommends microphen and dd-x above 3200, and that's all I
> would use.

Oops. It's actually 12500.

I'd still only use the microphen or dd-x...

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Re: Delta 3200 Processing

[tom]

Brian Walsh wrote:
> 
> I just shot my first roll of Delta 3200 in 120. It looks like I'll
> really need to use EI 6400 for my purposes (shots of people indoors,
> with slow lenses--f4.5). I realize that that's well above the film's
> true speed--but can anyone recommend a good recipe to give me that speed
> with good results? At 3200, Ilford's recommendations seemed to produce
> rather thin negatives.

Ilford only recommends microphen and dd-x above 3200, and that's all I
would use.

Download the Delta 3200 pdf from Ilford's site, it has some useful info.

Bear in mind that D3200 negs always look thin to the eye, but they seem
to print up ok anyway...

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Re: Delta 3200 Processing

[Brian Walsh]

Aaron [who can tell ya all about Delta 3200 in Studional (good),
Microphen
(really good), Rodinal (good), Microdol-X (bad) and a couple of others
that don't immediately spring to mind...but not D-76.] wrote:

> Don't do it in the T-Max.

I just shot my first roll of Delta 3200 in 120. It looks like I'll
really need to use EI 6400 for my purposes (shots of people indoors,
with slow lenses--f4.5). I realize that that's well above the film's
true speed--but can anyone recommend a good recipe to give me that speed
with good results? At 3200, Ilford's recommendations seemed to produce
rather thin negatives.

Thanks, 


Brian Walsh
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Re: Delta 3200 Processing

[tom]

PAUL STENQUIST wrote:
> 
> Darn. Now I'm tempted to try it in the T-Max:). That Photo Source
> Massive Development Chart that someone else pointed me too (sorry,
> forgot who, speak up and acknowledge your responsibility here :) 

That was me. Glad I was useful to someone today, I seemed to irritate
the crap out of a client this afternoon.

> calls
> for 8.5 minutes in  one to four T-Max. D76 straight up the chart says
> 10.5 minutes. Both are for 68 degrees. No number for the D76 one to one,
> but I'd guess it at around 15 minutes. 

It may not be listed because it might not be recommended. It may not
have enough activity to develop the film all the way.

I suspect these 3200 film are tough on developers.

Don't do it! Aaron loves the stuff, but I have found that if I screw
anything up at all I get bit in the butt.

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Re: Delta 3200 Processing

[PAUL STENQUIST]

Aaron Reynolds wrote:
> 
> Don't do it in the T-Max.
> 
> That's my only advice. :)
> 
Darn. Now I'm tempted to try it in the T-Max:). That Photo Source
Massive Development Chart that someone else pointed me too (sorry,
forgot who, speak up and acknowledge your responsibility here :) calls
for 8.5 minutes in  one to four T-Max. D76 straight up the chart says
10.5 minutes. Both are for 68 degrees. No number for the D76 one to one,
but I'd guess it at around 15 minutes. I'm going to expose it at 1600,
and I have a condenser enlarger, so 1:1 D-76 at 15 minutes sounds
promising. If it's a bit under that will work out just fine in my
contrasty enlarger.
Paul
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Re: FA* 300mm F4.5 with Tokina or Canon tripod collar?

[Bob Poe]

Hi,
I'm not sure about the other lens's collars, but also
on B&H, you will find the Bogen/Manfroto lens "collar"
which looks like a generic solution.  I can't tell how
stable it is, but it only cost $10 to try it out.  If
it is stable, it only costs about $50.



--- Mark Erickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So I'd really like to figure out a way to put a
> tripod
> collar on my FA* 300mm F4.5 lens.  I remember
> someone
> out there had one custom-machined, but I can't find
> the
> link to the picture.
> 
> I was surfing on the B&H website, however, and
> discovered
> that Tokina and Canon both have tripod collars that
> might
> fit.  The Tokina collar is made for their 80-400
> zoom lens.
> 
> Anyone out there have any idea whether one of these
> collars
> might fit the Pentax lens?
> 
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Re: Now *here's* a 50/1.2 on eBay...

[Tom Rittenhouse]

I haven't heard of such a law.  If you and I decide not to bid
against each other we still have no control over what others
will pay.  So it only affects the price if we are the only
bidders.  Shilling (having someone who has no intention to buy
bidding just to drive the price up for the seller) on the other
is usually against the auctions rules and can get a seller
kicked off permanently.

There are not as many consumer protection laws in the US as many
of us think.  Many were passed in the late sixties, and
seventies.  Mostly they have been quietly repealed.
--Tom


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> At 15:52 31.1.2001 -0600, you wrote:
> >Nope, the only requirement is that folks should not conspire to
> >hold down the price of auctioned items.  One of the examples
> >given was a group of individuals all interested in a certain
> >category of items decide amongst themselves to allow only one of
> >their number to place bids on a specific item and nobody in the
> >group will bid against him. They have, therefore, conspired to
> >hold down the price the seller can receive.  The whole group has
> >committed a felony by so doing.  Shilling on an auction
> >(conspiring to drive the price up) is just as illegal.  In the
> >U.S.A., that is.  Outside the U.S.A. could be different.
> 
> So if my friends decide to not bid against me, we commited a crime?
> Strange. I propably understand it bad. The US laws are just amazing. I am
> sometimes glad I don't live there!
> What the lawyers just don't think of (no offence meant to lawyers here,
> some of my best friends are lawyers ;) It's jsut the majority that sucks)
> 
> Fr.
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Re: Tilt Shift lens for 35mm

[Bob Blakely]

I have one. Nifty. It's not quite as sharp as my SMC K 28/3.5, but then it
has to cover a larger image circle. There is slight barrel distortion, but
you really need a straight edge to detect it at maximum shift. I wish there
was a "no filter" or "UV filter" option among the internal filter options.
You get "skylight", "yellow" and "Orange". I bought mine for US$650.00. It
was Like new, in box.

Regards,
Bob...

Give blood. Play hockey.

From: "Cy Galley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> Try...
>
> http://www.phred.org/pentax/k/
>  They have a picture.
>
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > Does anyone actually have a Pentax SMCP Tilt Shift 28mm f/3.5? I can't
> find
> > a picture of one anywhere (even the Pentax, B&H, and Blue Book sites)
and
> > I'm curious to know what they look like; also whether anyone who's used
> one
> > has an opinion about it (as in, worth USD 1200?).


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Re: Cosina Limiteds?

[tom]

SETH wrote:
> 
> 
> Actually, this is a situation where Stephen Gandy is
> uncharacteristically engaging in the sort speculation that Pål
> Jensen has become famous for.  We are supposed to beleive some
> unnamed double secret sources.  

I don't think Paal gives a monkey's butt if you believe him.

It just so happens that he seems to be *right* a lot of the time, so
many of us do believe him, knowing that there's a strong likelihood that
the story needs to be fleshed out a bit.

OTOH this limited rumor seems to be of a different sort.

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Re: Pentax 250 frame film back NEW

[Steve Larson]

Gary,
 It was a MX Motor Drive that the high bidder can contact him about. Someone
(?)
was looking for a MX motor drive.
Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California
- Original Message -
From: "Gary L. Murphy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Pentax Users Group" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 8:16 AM
Subject: Pentax 250 frame film back NEW


> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1212235831
>
> Just spotted this on eBay. He says it is NEW in box and that the high
bidder can also contact him for the sale
> of a MX winder.
>
> It has six days left with no bids. The opening bid is set at, $180.00
>
>
>
>
> Later,
> Gary
>
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Re: Cosina Limiteds?

[Mike Johnston]

William Robb wrote:

> Ok, Mike, here is where the rubber meets the road.
> Prove it. And lets not use a "The sky is pink, I read it on the
> net" website. Though if you want to post a few links, that would
> be fine also.


As I've stated several times now, it's just a rumor. I can't prove it and I
don't necessarily believe it. It was posted by Stephen Gandy on his website,
www.cameraquest.com (in the profile of the 43mm Limited lens, at the
bottom)--that's all. I'm not endorsing his belief; neither am I willing to
dismiss it. I do not know that it is true and I do not know that it is not
true. 

The only thing I know that I can't share is that I know who Stephen's source
was. 

It's quite possible Pal is right. But he hasn't convinced me yet.

I'm not taking a stand on the truth-value of any of this, pro or con, until
I know more.

--Mike


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Re: Vs: Vs: A35-105/3.5 as a substitute for A35-70/4

[Takehiko Ueda]

Hi Raimo,

You wrote:
> Absolutely - get it!
> All the best!
> Raimo

Now is the time to go and get it!!

Thank you,

Take "Where is my Wallet?" Ueda

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Re[2]: A35-105/3.5 as a substitute for A35-70/4

[Takehiko Ueda]

Hi Bill,

You wrote:
> This lens is on my SuperProgram about 80% of the time. 
> Wonderful quality, and it balances nicely with a ME II
> grip . . .
> 
> Illinois Bill

It's the same situation as mine (in the near future).  I'll
go and try.

Thanks a lot,

Take "Now let's go" Ueda

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Re: Cosina Limiteds?

[SETH]

"Doug Brewer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Mike,
>
> All due respect, but I'd be more inclined to believe Pål and
Yoshihiko. They both have a long-standing relationship with the list
and have proven reliability (okay, well, Pål is hit-and-miss at
times, but I have faith in him overall).

Actually, this is a situation where Stephen Gandy is
uncharacteristically engaging in the sort speculation that Pål
Jensen has become famous for.  We are supposed to beleive some
unnamed double secret sources.  We are also supposed to beleive that
Cosina made these lenses on the basis of their supposed similarity
to Cosina's Voigtlander lenses, when anyone who has seen or used
both will see no such similarity.  It also brings up a question.  If
Cosina made Pentax 77/1.8, why would they go through the trouble of
designing and developing a 75/2.5 at nearly the same time?  Aside
from similar focal length, these two lenses share very little.



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Re: a replacement for the fa 135 2.8?

[Doug Brewer]

It's been discontinued?

By all accounts, It's a winner. I've considered buying it myself, but I'm saving up 
for a 77 and have the length/speed covered with my 80-200/2.8. If it's available and 
you see a need/want for it in your photography, grab it. I don't think you'll be sorry.

Doug



At 5:40 PM -08002/3/01, Paul C caused thus to appear:
>Lately I have been thinking of getting the FA 135 f/2.8, but since it has recently 
>been discontinued, I'm debating on whether or not to wait for the replacement, if 
>there is one. Does anyone know if or when there will be a replacement brought out?
>
>merci,
>-paul
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Re: Pentax-M 120mm lens prices?

[Mark Dalal]

Mike wrote:

>Can anybody tell me what I might expect to pay for an SMC-M 120mm lens in
Ex+ or better condition? It >would help if you've actually paid the amount
you cite or if you know someone who has.


Mike,

There was one on the Charlotte Camera website for $89. I believe it was in 9
condition.

Mark

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Re: a replacement for the fa 135 2.8?

[tom]

Discontinued? Where did you hear this? It's still available from B+H,
and listed on Pentax USA's web site.

OTOH, B+H still lists the SMCT 135/3.5 screw mount

The 135/2.8 is a *great* lens, even wide open. I think it may be the
best of my lenses wide-open. It's my favorite portrait lens. Yes, I like
a sharp portrait, I don't care if my old g-mom doesn't like to see her
wrinkles.

Pal has said the next limited will be a 120mm. If true, it probably
won't be out until next year.

tv

Paul C wrote:
> 
> Lately I have been thinking of getting the FA 135 f/2.8, but since it has
> recently been discontinued, I'm debating on whether or not to wait for the
> replacement, if there is one. Does anyone know if or when there will be a
> replacement brought out?
>
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Re: What is a Portrait Lens? (was Lens Sharpness)

[SudaMafud]

In a message dated 2/3/01 3:04:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

<< 
 > What is a "portrait lens?"  Can someone define it for > me?  What > are 
the characteristics of a good portrait lens?
 >
  > Shel Belinkoff >>

My 80-200 f/2.8 FA AF was a great "portrait" lens. You could shoot from any 
distance, frame tightly or full length, shoot head shots or head and 
shouders, move from place to place or stand still. With an AF 500FTZ onboard, 
you were set to do politicians or Brides. 

Mafud
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a replacement for the fa 135 2.8?

[Paul C]

Lately I have been thinking of getting the FA 135 f/2.8, but since it has 
recently been discontinued, I'm debating on whether or not to wait for the 
replacement, if there is one. Does anyone know if or when there will be a 
replacement brought out?

merci,
-paul
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Re: OT: AOL Version 6.0

[SudaMafud]

In a message dated 2/3/01 1:40:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

<< That said, I don't know that I would ever  miss AOL if I moved to another 
server;  >>

I know one: if your "Favorite Places" is nearly as huge* as mine, with all 
those websites, saved mail, eBay folder-etc., you'd scream the first time you 
searched for them and they were not there, just a click or two away. 
*I sometimes uninstall AOL 5.0. The AOL uninstall program saves your Personal 
Filing Cabinet and Favorite Places in folders, then places the folders on 
your Desktop. From there, I write the folder to CD by the year.
I then reload AOL, go into the desktop, reload the files, then delete the 
things I don't use on regular basis. For old addresses I need to access, I 
always have the CDs to go to.   

Mafud
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Re: 300 f4.0 revisited

[Rofini]

Hi Dave,

>Dave Weiss writes:
>
>>I recently purchased a 300f4.0 (k) lens from KEH.

>Maybe it is of high quality then.
>Perhaps the two extra lenses that were added compared to the
>5-5 design of the smc tak were added to correct some
aberrations?

That would be my guess.

>I did order the ultimate pentax
>screwmount guide from pacific rim camera, but it has not
arrived
>as yet.  Is that where you got this information?

Now one more book on my list to look forbut the info on the
Super-Takumar which includes element diagrams comes from the
"Spotmatic II Operating Manual". The Super-Multi-Coated Takumar
info is from brochure P1009 11/73 titled "Honeywell Pentax
Cameras, Lenses, and Accessories". A later "Takumar
Interchangeable Lenses Operating Manual" with similar info
refers to the lenses as SMC Takumars. The Focal Press "Asahi
Pentax Guide" has some (mostly accurate) info on older Takumars.

On the web, PDML's own Dario Bonazza has info at:
http://digilander.iol.it/aohc/tak05e.htm and Peter Jonkman's has
some at:
http://www.telekabel.nl/sprinter/pjonkman/lenses2.htm

I'd be interseted in finding out the weight of your lens when/if
it's possible to weigh it. The K-mount "SMC Pentax Lenses
Brochure" lists the weight at 942 grams and Boz's page lists it
at 1020; all other specs the same.

Mark Rofini


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Re: Cosina Limiteds?

[Doug Brewer]

Mike,

All due respect, but I'd be more inclined to believe Pål and Yoshihiko. They both have 
a long-standing relationship with the list and have proven reliability (okay, well, 
Pål is hit-and-miss at times, but I have faith in him overall).
 
It seems odd that you demand Pål identify his source, yet refuse to identify yours. 
You say that a source inside Pentax may be biased, but couldn't Stephen's alleged 
source work for another company competing with Pentax, and thus capable of colored 
perceptions?

It's really too bad that people are too ready to embrace the idea that Pentax is not 
capable of producing such a fine set of lenses, but seem to believe Nikon makes all 
their lenses.

Perplexed,

Doug



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Re: Lens sharpness

[Rodger Whitlock]

On  Fri, 2 Feb 2001 at 19:26:11 -0600, Dan Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

> ...I don't think I've ever had *any* adult over the age of 25-30
> tell me they actually liked a headshot I'd taken of them, generally
> saying *I* made them look horsey/old/horrid/wrinkly/puffy/had bad
> skin/yellow teeth/etc./etc.. Telling them that I thought the photo
> was great because it looked just like them, never seems to have
> the effect I'd intended. 

> So I'm faced with a problem, do I give someone a photo I like but
> that makes them feel bad about themselves, or do I shoot photos I
> like and give them prints that make them feel good about
> themselves and me? 

For a professional portraitist, of course, there's no problem. The 
customer says what he/she wants and that's what's provided. But we 
amateurs all have *exactly* the problem you describe.

After I got my new Z1-p and 77 ltd last summer I rushed off and took 
some snapshots of a friend in her garden. I didn't take great care in 
posing her, and combined with the sharpness of the 77 it led to the 
issuance of a diktat "Don't you ever dare point that thing at me 
again!" Admittedly, one of the shots made her look like someone 
waiting in line for a brain transplant or something.

I used the F 100/2.8 to photograph a heavily tattooed friend. He was 
quite interested in the closeups of his tattoos, never having seen 
some of them in quite such detail (i.e. his huge back piece). One 
that stood out in my mind, a head-and-shoulders portrait in which one 
only glimpses a tattoo on one shoulder.

To my mind, it is one of the best portrait shots I've ever taken. The
contrast between the serious facial expression and the hinted tattoo
give the thing great psychological depth. I feel it truly reveals
something of my friend's inner life. It is a truly beautiful 
photograph.
 
But the subject had precisely the reaction you describe in your first 
(quoted) paragraph. 

I think the difficulty is that sharp portraits dispel the subjects' 
illusions about their appearance, and no one likes having their 
illusions undone. I imagine that on the whole, PDMLer's are not a 
very handsome lot and that we all look at ourselves in the mirror 
from time to time. But I will also assert that our inner pictures of 
ourselves leave out the sagging flesh, the skin defects, the graying 
hair, the bloodshot eyes, the bulging waistlines. The camera is less 
kindly.

About the only solution that comes to mind is to take some portraits 
of one's nearest and dearest with the pantyhose over the lens, and 
others without, and don't let the subjects see the sharp ones. 

-- 
Rodger Whitlock
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
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Re: How To Send Plain Text in AOL Version 6.0

[SudaMafud]

In a message dated 2/3/01 11:53:17 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< If that doesn't convince someone to stop using AOL then nothing will. >>

What "that" are you reffering to Peter? 

Mafud
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Re: OT: AOL Version 6.0

[SudaMafud]

In a message dated 2/3/01 11:51:31 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< Maybe a dumb question, and WAY off topic, but I can't see a reason to use 
AOL, but I knwo there are many on the list who do. 
 What do they offer?
 Thanks
 Bill >>

Bill, some of us started out with AOL way back when. 
AOL is *not* for the technically minded "power" user, nor is it for the 
"stupid" or computer illiterate. 
A person *does not* need to go out on the Net for anything, in that AOL is a 
self contained (gated?) community. Internet Explorer is linked to AOL, but 
AOL has its own weather, news, horoscopes, chat rooms and bulletin boards out 
the yang, Hollywood stuff, music stuff, computer software downloads to 
include DOS and Windows games (most of it free or shareware), Kid's only 
(children's web access is very tightly controlled (by the master list name), 
Web Pages, (ready made or do it yourself),  "buddy" mail, CBS news, Instant 
messaging (source of controversy in that AOL simply wants to "own" its own 
invention (an intellectual property rights thing):
 last but not least, AOL literally ties millions of families together: my 
five daughters, my Brothers and Sister, Mom and Dad, nephews-neices-perhaps 
300 people in 14 countries and 21 states. 
*To write my Mom, I type her screen name, no @, no .com, just her screen 
name: hit enter and it goes direct, and because it *does not* go out on the 
Net, we can communicate in *real* time. 
Then there's AOL Long Distance @ 5 cents a minute, (Mom won't use Internet 
telephony), AOL Travel and a host of features I have no use for. AOL offers 
rebates and computer related equipment at prices non-AOLers will *never** 
ever see. 
*I recently (November) bought a premium digital photo editing software 
package for $49.00, about $150 less than I've ever seen it offered anyplace 
else. 
*I do not know about other ISPs, but AOL does keep my extended family in 
touch. What that's worth I do not know, but my AOL "Buddy List" is priceless. 
   

Of course I think it's "power user snobbery" to think of *any* community of 
24 million+ people as being somehow less intellectually adept. AOLers 
certainly are not computer "gageteers" or "digiheads", as some young computer 
users refer to themselves. There are millions of us who simply don't have or 
take the time or inclination to do "power user" things, things that are on 
their face, frivolous, "overclocking" being one. 

Mafud
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Re: Tilt Shift lens for 35mm

[Joseph McAllister]

On 02/03/2001 13:29, Cy Galley opined:
Cy Galley - editor, B-C Contact wrote:

>Try...
>
>http://www.phred.org/pentax/k/
> They have a picture.


>
>- Original Message -
>From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Tilt Shift lens for 35mm
>
>
>> Does anyone actually have a Pentax SMCP Tilt Shift 28mm f/3.5? I can't
>find
>> a picture of one anywhere (even the Pentax, B&H, and Blue Book sites) and
>> I'm curious to know what they look like; also whether anyone who's used
>one
>> has an opinion about it (as in, worth USD 1200?).
>> Thanks.
>> JJ

Have it. Use it. No. (unless I'm selling mine):-)

It's a good lens, sharp, does the job. About the length and size of a 
SMCP-A 15mm f:3.5, with whom it shares a lens cap. Smaller than a SMCP-A* 
135mm f:1.8. No tilts, but hey, use a view camera for that.

Worth whatever you are willing to pay to get one. I traded labor for 
mine, but I value it at around $800 used in excellent shape. It's not for 
sale today.  :-)

To quote my own corallary to McKeown"s Law:

"The price of any used photographic gear is entirely dependent upon 
the moods of the buyer and the seller at the time of the transaction."



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SV: Tilt Shift lens for 35mm

[Jens Bladt]

Hi JJ
Yes, I have it.
Jens

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Emne: Tilt Shift lens for 35mm


Does anyone actually have a Pentax SMCP Tilt Shift 28mm f/3.5? I can't find
a picture of one anywhere (even the Pentax, B&H, and Blue Book sites) and
I'm curious to know what they look like; also whether anyone who's used one
has an opinion about it (as in, worth USD 1200?).
Thanks.
JJ

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SV: PZ1p and monolight

[Jens Bladt]

Hi
It's true it could be dangerous to use old/un current flashes for this
camera. Anyway, please notice, that the shoe of the PZ-1 is slightly
different from the usual design. There has to be a small rectangular
"cut-away" in front of the metal plate, that goes into the camera hotshoe.
Regards
Jens



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Emne: Re: PZ1p and monolight


On 02/01/2001 12:37, Tiger Moses opined:

>At 10:50 AM 2/1/01 -0800, you wrote:
>>Can I use a simple hotshoe adapter with a PC
>>connection to plug in my Photogenic Medalight into my
>>PZ1?
>>Thanks,
>>Herbet.
>Yes you can, but you can decrease the risk of damage to the Pentax by using
>devices designed to protect the camera, Wein makes one.  I had to pay
around
>$40 USD, but that would be better then repairing/replacing a camera!

For almost all my photography with my Photogenic Flashmaster setup
(antique) I use the Pentax IR Remote system on cameras that have a hot
shoe, or, like on my digital camera which has none, I tape a simple
remote flash sensor in front of the built in flash, covering the built in
flash in the process.

Note though: I have used the system directly on my LX and Bronica ETRsi,
and on some of my old lenses with shutters for my 8 x 10 Deardorf. Oh,
and the Speed Graphic too.

JoMac


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Re: A35-105/3.5 as a substitute for A35-70/4

[William Kane]

This lens is on my SuperProgram about 80% of the time.  Wonderful
quality, and it balances nicely with a ME II grip . . .

Illinois Bill

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RE: PZ1p and monolight

[Jens Bladt]

Hi
It's true it could be dangerous to use old/un current flashes for this
camera. Anyway, please notice, that the shoe of the PZ-1 is slightly
different from the usual design. There has to be a small rectangular
"cut-away" in front of the metal plate, that goes into the camera hotshoe.
Regards
Jens



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Emne: Re: PZ1p and monolight


On 02/01/2001 12:37, Tiger Moses opined:

>At 10:50 AM 2/1/01 -0800, you wrote:
>>Can I use a simple hotshoe adapter with a PC
>>connection to plug in my Photogenic Medalight into my
>>PZ1?
>>Thanks,
>>Herbet.
>Yes you can, but you can decrease the risk of damage to the Pentax by using
>devices designed to protect the camera, Wein makes one.  I had to pay
around
>$40 USD, but that would be better then repairing/replacing a camera!

For almost all my photography with my Photogenic Flashmaster setup
(antique) I use the Pentax IR Remote system on cameras that have a hot
shoe, or, like on my digital camera which has none, I tape a simple
remote flash sensor in front of the built in flash, covering the built in
flash in the process.

Note though: I have used the system directly on my LX and Bronica ETRsi,
and on some of my old lenses with shutters for my 8 x 10 Deardorf. Oh,
and the Speed Graphic too.

JoMac


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FA* 300mm F4.5 with Tokina or Canon tripod collar?

[Mark Erickson]

So I'd really like to figure out a way to put a tripod
collar on my FA* 300mm F4.5 lens.  I remember someone
out there had one custom-machined, but I can't find the
link to the picture.

I was surfing on the B&H website, however, and discovered
that Tokina and Canon both have tripod collars that might
fit.  The Tokina collar is made for their 80-400 zoom lens.

Anyone out there have any idea whether one of these collars
might fit the Pentax lens?

--Mark
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How To Send Plain Text in AOL Version 6.0

[K2112s]

Thanks Jay and Doug.  This seems to work for Compuserve too.  At least I 
think it does you tell me
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OT: WTB

[Collin Brendemuehl]

I need a 46mm or 49mm -> 40.5 mm adapter.
I'd like to use regular filters on my Lordomat.
OR
40.5 mm yellow filter

Thanks,

Collin


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Re: AOL Version 6.0

[aimcompute]

Nothing any longer, for me.  At one time it they were one of the few
"National" ISP's that had local numbers all over which is great for
traveling.  Now there's quite a few more big providers that do the same.

Tom C.

-Original Message-
From: William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Saturday, February 03, 2001 9:57 AM
Subject: OT: AOL Version 6.0


>Maybe a dumb question, and WAY off topic, but I can't see a
>reason to use AOL, but I knwo there are many on the list who do.
>What do they offer?
>Thanks
>Bill
>- Original Message -
>From: "Doug Brewer" Subject: How To Send Plain Text in AOL
>Version 6.0
>
>
>>
>> How to send plain text from AOL V6.0:
>> =
>>
>> 1. Make sure your font is set to Arial 10, the AOL default.
>>
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Re: State of the art consumer film scanners?

[Dan Scott]

Nikon has new scanners arriving soon.
http://64.77.49.6/usa_product/product.jsp?cat=7&grp=701&productNr=9236 see
also the 4000 and the 8000 linked to on that same page.

Good luck,
Dan Scott
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


>I'm in the market to buy a new film scanner in the next month (I'm giving my
>S20 to my father so he scan 50 years of family photographs and annotate them
>as a digital legacy to all his descendants).
>
>My upcoming bonus at work should be nice enough to afford something better
>than an S20.
>
>What do people recommend?
>
>I've found this site with some comparisons:
>http://www.imaging-resource.com/SCAN1.HTM
>
>Here the Polaroid 4000 is compared to an S20 and LS2000, and at 4000 DPi,
>comes out well:
>http://www.users.qwest.net/~rnclark/scandetail.htm
>
>Is the Polaroid the best in consumer level film scanners these days?  Are
>there any new generation models coming out in the next few months that might
>be worth waiting for?
>
>The Polaroid SprintScan 120 looks pretty amazing (but have to wait until
>April 2001 for it):
>http://www.polaroid.com/products/digital_imaging/scanners/ss120/specs.html
>
>
>Thanks,
>Gerald
>
>
>
>
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Re: Black ME super on eBay!

[Paul Jones]

Looks like his first time selling something also


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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: Black ME super on eBay!


>
> Hmm... depends on how much of a risk taker you are to send a money order
to
> Seoul, Korea though.
>
> Todd
>
> At 05:59 PM 2/2/01 -0600, you wrote:
> >Spotted this real nice looking Black ME Super on eBay.
> >
> >http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1212069326
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Later,
> >Gary
> >
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Re: Tilt Shift lens for 35mm

[Cy Galley]

Try...

http://www.phred.org/pentax/k/
 They have a picture.


Cy Galley - editor, B-C Contact!
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Subject: Tilt Shift lens for 35mm


> Does anyone actually have a Pentax SMCP Tilt Shift 28mm f/3.5? I can't
find
> a picture of one anywhere (even the Pentax, B&H, and Blue Book sites) and
> I'm curious to know what they look like; also whether anyone who's used
one
> has an opinion about it (as in, worth USD 1200?).
> Thanks.
> JJ
>
> J. John Cohen
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ME Super question

[Wieland Willker]

Anybody knows this?
With the compensation dial on the left: Is it possible to choose intermediate steps  
(e.g.
set it between 2x and 4x to get 3x) or does this not work?

PS: Interesting: When the ASA film speed is set to 800 you cannot choose 1/4x, when it 
is
set to 1600 you cannot choose 1/2x. My first film with the camera was an 800 and I
couldn't choose 1/4x, so I thought this is a defect of the camera until the next film 
with
100 ASA. Oh, well...  :-)

Best wishes
Wieland

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Tilt Shift lens for 35mm

[John . Cohen]

Does anyone actually have a Pentax SMCP Tilt Shift 28mm f/3.5? I can't find
a picture of one anywhere (even the Pentax, B&H, and Blue Book sites) and
I'm curious to know what they look like; also whether anyone who's used one
has an opinion about it (as in, worth USD 1200?).
Thanks.
JJ

J. John Cohen
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Re: State of the art consumer film scanners?

[IronWorks]

Nikon is coming out with new scanners soon, though I don't know if they are
on the market yet:

"A New Generation of Nikon Coolscan® Film Scanners:
The Coolscan IV ED, Super Coolscan 4000 ED and Super Coolscan 8000 ED"

http://64.77.49.6/usa_category/category.jsp?cat=7

Maris

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From: "Gerald Cermak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 2:11 PM
Subject: State of the art consumer film scanners?


| I'm in the market to buy a new film scanner in the next month (I'm giving
my
| S20 to my father so he scan 50 years of family photographs and annotate
them
| as a digital legacy to all his descendants).
|
| My upcoming bonus at work should be nice enough to afford something better
| than an S20.
|
| What do people recommend?
|
| I've found this site with some comparisons:
| http://www.imaging-resource.com/SCAN1.HTM
|
| Here the Polaroid 4000 is compared to an S20 and LS2000, and at 4000 DPi,
| comes out well:
| http://www.users.qwest.net/~rnclark/scandetail.htm
|
| Is the Polaroid the best in consumer level film scanners these days?  Are
| there any new generation models coming out in the next few months that
might
| be worth waiting for?
|
| The Polaroid SprintScan 120 looks pretty amazing (but have to wait until
| April 2001 for it):
| http://www.polaroid.com/products/digital_imaging/scanners/ss120/specs.html
|
|
| Thanks,
| Gerald
|
|
|
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Re: What is a Portrait Lens? (was Lens Sharpness)

[Tom Rittenhouse]

Mike, that is as definitive a description of what a good
portrait lens is as I have ever read.
--Tom


Mike Johnston wrote:
> 
> Shel wrote:
> 
> > What is a "portrait lens?"  Can someone define it for me?  What
> > are the characteristics of a good portrait lens?
> 
> I suppose by definition it's a lens you use to make portraits with. More
> typically, it's a medium telephoto of 85mm to 105mm focal length, since
> those are frequently preferred to make portraits with.
> 
> At the turn of the century a good portrait lens was a highly prized tool,
> and various portrait photographers were highly possessive about their
> carefully selected lenses. Even until recently, some of these lenses were
> sought after and sold for far more than their more pedestrian brethren. They
> have names few photographers recognize today.
> 
> A good portrait lens back then (of course, they were all view camera lenses)
> was a lens that looked sharp without obvious softness, but that didn't
> resolve too much. The reason for this is that the human eye and mind, when
> "recognizing" a human face, typically is highly sensitive of identifiers in
> shape, form, expression, and so forth--permanent features of the face being
> recognized; but tends to ignore what we know to be transient, insignificant
> surface details--blemishes, stubble, bad skin, lines, etc. We're aware that
> these things are not identifiers, so the mind tends to give them less
> emphasis in the recognition process.
> 
> Some feel that a good portrait lens should do the same. Too much resolution
> of surface detail is a distraction from the way a person looks. Surely, all
> of us have seen photographs of ourselves or our loved ones that "don't look
> right" because of excessive resolution--every pore pronounced, every crease
> and line emphasized. It's like a caricature.
> 
> Most of the early portrait masters used relatively simple lenses that had
> decent contrast but not very good correction. Further control was afforded
> through choice of apertures.
> 
> These days, what I would look for in a portrait lens is a lens that has high
> contrast for large structures (say, 5 lp/mm), but not very good resolution
> of small structures (30-40 lp/mm) and good soft blur or "bokeh."
> 
> I don't mind if a lens only has these properties at a certain restricted
> range of apertures.
> 
> I have a number of old portraits in my collection that are absolutely
> stunning--gorgeous, flattering yet clear. In my opinion the high point of
> portrait photography passed many years ago.

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Re: OT: AOL Version 6.0

[Mark Roberts]

Doug Brewer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>That said, I'd prefer, if anyone on the list is going to use AOL, 
>that they use an earlier version that supports plain text or consider 
>employing another email client to interface with the list, as Peder 
>did.

Hasn't AOL gotten around to making its system work with third
party email software yet?! I would have hoped that by version
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Re: 300 f4.0 revisited

[Rofini]

Dave Weiss writes:

>I recently purchased a 300f4.0 (k) lens from KEH.

Congratulations on your purchase. Every original Pentax PK prime
is a masterpiece.

>According to Boz's site, the optical formula is 7 elements
>in 5 groups while all the subsequent 300 lenses were 7-8
>or 7-9.  What specifically would more elements correct?

Well one thing it would "correct" is size! I suspect that more
elements were used to reduce the physical size of the lens.

>I could not find any specific info and the smc tak version to
>compare it to, but have seen the positive reviews it gathered
>a few weeks ago on this list.  Would this be one of the
>kmounts which is essentially a redone screwmount lens?

They are different. The Super-Takumar and SMC Takumar have 5
elements in 5 groups. The older Takumar f:4/300 has 4 in 4, is
larger, and weighs more than the SuperTak/SMCTak.

Mark Rofini


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State of the art consumer film scanners?

[Gerald Cermak]

I'm in the market to buy a new film scanner in the next month (I'm giving my
S20 to my father so he scan 50 years of family photographs and annotate them
as a digital legacy to all his descendants).

My upcoming bonus at work should be nice enough to afford something better
than an S20.

What do people recommend?

I've found this site with some comparisons:
http://www.imaging-resource.com/SCAN1.HTM

Here the Polaroid 4000 is compared to an S20 and LS2000, and at 4000 DPi,
comes out well:
http://www.users.qwest.net/~rnclark/scandetail.htm

Is the Polaroid the best in consumer level film scanners these days?  Are
there any new generation models coming out in the next few months that might
be worth waiting for?

The Polaroid SprintScan 120 looks pretty amazing (but have to wait until
April 2001 for it):
http://www.polaroid.com/products/digital_imaging/scanners/ss120/specs.html


Thanks,
Gerald




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Re: Delta 3200 Processing

[tom]

PAUL STENQUIST wrote:
> 
> Thanks Bill,
> That being said, I'm going to load a roll of that stuff in my LX, strap
> on the 400/5.6 and the A2X-S and walk down the street to the marsh to
> see if I can shoot some ducks. It's a cold, gray winter day here in
> Michigan, but I gotta have some fun.
> Paul

If you're going to shoot during the day, I'd shoot it at 1250 or 1600,
which I would think would be fine even with the 400 and 2x. I have found
there's *no* room for underexposure at 3200, while it's a little more
forgiving at 1600. Nicer grain and sharpness too.

For developing times, as always, see:

http://www.digitaltruth.com/

and select "Massive Dev Chart"

tv
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RE: What is a Portrait Lens? (was Lens Sharpness)

[Len Paris]

I think you know the classical answer to the question already,
so are just "stirring the pot". :)

The easy answers (and those are the only kinds of answers I
know) that satisfy my requirements are:

   1.  A lens of sufficient focal length to allow a decent
working distance and not cause any of the subject's body parts
to be given unwanted emphasis.

   2.  A lens of sufficient aperture to allow good control over
depth of field.

   3.  A lens sharp enough to provide all of the detail that is
needed.

I have seen good 35mm portraits (head and shoulders shots) done
with lenses from 50mm through 300mm.  In fact, 105mm through
300mm has seen a lot of favor in recent years in glamour and
fashion photography with photographers that use 35mm cameras.

Len
---



> What is a "portrait lens?"  Can someone define it for
> me?  What
> are the characteristics of a good portrait lens?
>
> --
> Shel Belinkoff

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Re: Delta 3200 Processing

[PAUL STENQUIST]

Thanks Bill,
That being said, I'm going to load a roll of that stuff in my LX, strap
on the 400/5.6 and the A2X-S and walk down the street to the marsh to
see if I can shoot some ducks. It's a cold, gray winter day here in
Michigan, but I gotta have some fun. 
Paul

William Robb wrote:
> 
> D-76 and ID-11 are virtually identical formulations. They can be
> used pretty interchangably.
> William Robb
> - Original Message -
> From: "PAUL STENQUIST" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "pentaxlist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: February 3, 2001 1:24 PM
> Subject: Delta 3200 Processing
> 
> > Does anyone have a "recipe" for Delta 3200 using either T-Max
> or D-76? I
> > acquired a couple of rolls of the Ilford film (Ilford is
> packing two
> > rolls with its new Multigrade IV Cooltone paper). So rather
> than buy
> > more chemistry, I'd like to be able to process it with one of
> the two
> > developers I currently use with Kodak film.
> > Paul
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Re: Nikkor 45mm comment: another party heard from....

[Mike Johnston]

This comes from my friend Oren Grad, who is not on the list but is a Pentax
fan of long standing (although he shoots with Leica and large format):

>>>
Re that new Nikkor 45 - there's something perverse about a pancake lens
coming from a vendor of dreadnought cameras.  There's not a camera in the
Nikon line, even including the smaller ones, to which that will be anywhere
near as elegant a match as the 43 Limited on an MZ-3.  Unless, that is, the
"FM3A" mentioned on that page is something entirely new and different...
<<<


--Mike

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Re: Delta 3200 Processing

[William Robb]

D-76 and ID-11 are virtually identical formulations. They can be
used pretty interchangably.
William Robb
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From: "PAUL STENQUIST" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "pentaxlist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: February 3, 2001 1:24 PM
Subject: Delta 3200 Processing


> Does anyone have a "recipe" for Delta 3200 using either T-Max
or D-76? I
> acquired a couple of rolls of the Ilford film (Ilford is
packing two
> rolls with its new Multigrade IV Cooltone paper). So rather
than buy
> more chemistry, I'd like to be able to process it with one of
the two
> developers I currently use with Kodak film.
> Paul


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300 f4.0 revisited

[Dave Weiss]

Hi all;

I recently purchased a 300f4.0 (k) lens from KEH.  After having lost several
Ebay auctions, I just couldn't get the bad taste out of my mouth any other
way!  Argghhh!  That 300m* on Ebay just did not find its way into my
collection.  I will be receiving my 300f4.0 in a few days and was wondering:

1.  According to Boz's site, the optical formula is 7 elements in 5 groups
while all the subsequent 300 lenses were 7-8 or 7-9.  What specifically
would more elements correct?  Chromatic abberation?  Pincushion?  I am going
to put the lens through some tests and thought I might look rather closely
at what pentax thought was its shortcomings.

2.  Should I expect a tripod mount with this particular lens?

3.  I could not find any specific info and the smc tak version to compare it
to, but have seen the positive reviews it gathered a few weeks ago on this
list.  Would this be one of the kmounts which is essentially a redone
screwmount lens?

Any comments would be appreciated.


thanks much

dave





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RE: Need help: How to retain image sharpness on extreme enlargements!

[Kevin Thornsberry]

Sid,

Congratulations on finding a market for your images.  I'm especially interested to 
find out there is a market in this part of the world for swamp pictures.  I'm gonna 
have to spend more time out in the boat (without my rod and reel).

Based on my snip below and the assumption that you're getting paid what your images 
deserve, I'd recommend you investigate Bill Nordstrom at Laser Light Photographics 
(831) 685-1366 (http://www.laslight.com).  I have yet to have your opportunity to need 
his level of services but he was recommended by George Lepp as the man who is able to 
get more out of a print than anyone else.  Scanning, prepping and printing are not a 
just a part of his business, they are all he does.  Check his web site and read the 
FAQ.  He is not cheap but is probably your best bet.  Once he has done a print, he 
archives the files so reprints in the future are more affordable. My guess is that he 
can give you some idea over the phone of what he can do for you.  At least the phone 
call is cheap.

Congratulations again.

Kevin Thornsberry
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From:   Sid Barras [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Friday, February 02, 2001 9:58 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Need help: How to retain image sharpness on extreme enlargements!

.
.
.
.  
This could represent a real breakthrough into the world of "income
(money!) producing photography", so I'm really, really interested in
having this project turn out well.
.
.
.
.
. 

 application/ms-tnef

Re: Getting' funky with film choices

[PAUL STENQUIST]

"D. Glenn Arthur Jr." wrote:
> 
>
> 
> Anyone out there cross-process Provia?
> 
> -- Glenn

I haven't cross-processed Provia, but I did shoot some deep orange
flames with Velvia and then cross-processed the Velvia. The orange
flames printed as a nice bright medium yellow. color. I shot the Velvia
at the rated 50asa, and the negs were nice. I would guess you could
shoot Provia 400 at 800 and ask for a one or perhaps one and a half stop
push. (It wouldn't hurt to have a little more density than you might get
with just one stop.)
Paul
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Vs: Vs: A35-105/3.5 as a substitute for A35-70/4

[Raimo Korhonen]

Absolutely - get it!
All the best!
Raimo
Personal photography homepage at http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen

-Alkuperäinen viesti-
Lähettäjä: Takehiko Ueda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Päivä: 03. helmikuuta 2001 17:36
Aihe: Re: Vs: A35-105/3.5 as a substitute for A35-70/4


>Hi Raimo,
>
>You wrote:
>> This lens is no substitute but an excellent lens in its own right.
>> All the best!
>> Raimo
>
>Considering from the reputation it got at the Stan's Lens
>Site and the samples Bob S. gave me, your evaluation of
>this lens is right.  My wording was inappropriate.  I
>should have said "A35-105 to replace A35-70".  Makes sense?
>
>Thanks a lot,
>
>Takehiko "I'll come back tomorrow" Ueda
>
>Take Ueda, Osaka, Japan
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>http://members.tripod.co.jp/hayatama/photo/
>


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RE: MZ-S's HyP/HyM/IF button

[Pål Jensen]

Canislupus wrote:

"Sorry if somebody already asked this, but anybody knows if there are the
HyP/HyM modes in MZ-S? From a first glance, it seens there are no buttons
for them, but perhaps the AF button on back can be reprogrammed using
Pentax Functions into a IF button, or the green dot button left of shutter
release is IF ?"


REPLY:
Nothing is confirmed yet but I've been told that the MZ-S do indeed have hyper modes. 
I personally suspect the green button on the front to be the "IF" button. This is a 
much better placement than on the Z-1p.

Pål



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Delta 3200 Processing

[PAUL STENQUIST]

Does anyone have a "recipe" for Delta 3200 using either T-Max or D-76? I
acquired a couple of rolls of the Ilford film (Ilford is packing two
rolls with its new Multigrade IV Cooltone paper). So rather than buy
more chemistry, I'd like to be able to process it with one of the two
developers I currently use with Kodak film. 
Paul
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Re: realworld comparsion: 4x5",35mm,DIGITAL

[Brian Walsh]

Michael Reichmann's site includes a thorough review of the Canon D30,
including a very interesting comparison of the output of that camera to
35mm Provia F100. The film was scanned using a (US$ 10,000?) Imacon
Flextite, then sharpened, etc. The D30 images were manipulated as he
describes, including use of Genuine Fractals. He states that the images
from the D30 are superior up to about 8x10", and that his prints up to
around 10x13 from the D30 are as good as from film which has been
scanned, unsharp masked, and printed digitally. 

He also has a direct comparison of images from the D30 at ASA 100 and
400, compared to straight scans of Provia 1004 and 400F.

You can find this at:

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/


Brian Walsh
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Re: Cosina Limiteds?

[Pål Jensen]

Mike wrote:

"Bear in mind that it's possible this is just a rumor. "


REPLY:
It isn't possible just a rumor; its a false rumor. In my previous post I said that it 
was almost certainly bullshit. You can cut the almost; since then I've gotten it 
confirmed (so have others it seems) that the Limited lenses has nothing to do with 
Cosina (or anyone else except Pentax). So whoever put this on his web page should 
remove it immediately since its false.

Pål

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Re: How To Send Plain Text in AOL Version 6.0

[Doug Brewer]

I guess I should have waited on this. Turns out it's still HTML. Oh 
well, back to the drawing board.

Doug



At 11:38 AM -05002/3/01, Doug Brewer caused thus to appear:
>Jay O'Brien sent this to the majordomo users list. Thought it might 
>be of interest here. And I might also take this opportunity to 
>remind everyone to use plain text.
>
>
>
>How to send plain text from AOL V6.0:
>=
>
>1. Make sure your font is set to Arial 10, the AOL default.
>
>2. Create a message using only default Arial 10 type. Any
>quoted text pasted in from another message must also be
>in Arial 10 type (no bold, other sizes or colors). Note:
>if you paste a message that was received in HTML format,
>it will probably cause you to send in HTML.
>
>3. Hit Control-A to highlight the entire message.
>
>4. Right click anywhere in the message itself: A 'popup menu'
>will appear. Move the cursor to "text" and another menu
>will appear. Move the cursor to "normal" and click on it.
>
>5. Send the message.
>
>==
>
>I don't think even AOL knows how to do this.
>
>This has been tested at length and apparently is relatively
>easy to accomplish in AOL 6.0. Of course AOL "updates" their
>users software on line without the users knowledge, so this
>fix could be removed by AOL at any time.
>
>Attempts to communicate with AOL result in boilerplate messages
>that "apologize for the inconvenience" and suggest fixes that
>don't work.
>
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>Doug
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Re: OT: AOL Version 6.0

[Joseph McAllister]

On 02/03/2001 10:19, Ann Sanfedele opined:

>I have an AOL account as an emergency backup for $4.95
>a month, so I can get to ebay even if my server is down or I'm visiting
>someone who has it I
>can easily access the email I had forwarded there from my regualr
>server.  But there are so
>many annoyances I can't count them.

I gave up my $4.95 account (and you cannot get them back, as they no 
longer exist except as a grandfathered situation) because tending to my 
website was taking more than the allocated 3 hours (or is it 4?) per 
month. 

But I must agree with you regarding annoyances. Especially at 28k! 
Everything takes forever, and I do receive a half dozen spam msgs a day, 
none of which are filtered out by the laboriously set up AOL filters I've 
invoked. (Gave up on that)   So when I do log on, I have to look through 
a hundred crap mails to see if there is one that is really to me from 
someone I know or is trying to get in touch. Pain.



JoMac, Imagineer with Camera


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Re: OT: AOL Version 6.0

[Robert Harris]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> To answer your question, I was in Phoenix and Atlanta this week.  My AOL
> account was a local phone call away in both cases.  Very convenient.

AOL is not unique in having nodes all over the US. I use Mindspring (now
part of Earthlink), and can connect from anywhere I ever have been by
changing to a local phone number.
 
Bob
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Re: PZ1p and monolight

[Joseph McAllister]

On 02/01/2001 12:37, Tiger Moses opined:

>At 10:50 AM 2/1/01 -0800, you wrote:
>>Can I use a simple hotshoe adapter with a PC
>>connection to plug in my Photogenic Medalight into my
>>PZ1?
>>Thanks,
>>Herbet.
>Yes you can, but you can decrease the risk of damage to the Pentax by using
>devices designed to protect the camera, Wein makes one.  I had to pay around
>$40 USD, but that would be better then repairing/replacing a camera!

For almost all my photography with my Photogenic Flashmaster setup 
(antique) I use the Pentax IR Remote system on cameras that have a hot 
shoe, or, like on my digital camera which has none, I tape a simple 
remote flash sensor in front of the built in flash, covering the built in 
flash in the process. 

Note though: I have used the system directly on my LX and Bronica ETRsi, 
and on some of my old lenses with shutters for my 8 x 10 Deardorf. Oh, 
and the Speed Graphic too.

JoMac


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Re: OT: AOL Version 6.0

[Gary L. Murphy]

On Sat, 3 Feb 2001 11:22:11 -0600, William Robb wrote:

>I really was just curious. BTW, I still have that AOL version 5
>coaster awaiting the first caller. This is the rare last version
>that supports plain text email. A must have peice of software
>for any AOL subscriber.

Heck, post it on eBay. You might be suprised at what you could get. :-))




Later,
Gary


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Re: OT: AOL Version 6.0

[LEDMRVM]

In a message dated 2/3/2001 11:51:31 AM US Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> Maybe a dumb question, and WAY off topic, but I can't see a
>  reason to use AOL, but I know there are many on the list who do.
>  What do they offer?
>  Thanks
>  Bill
>  

Bill-
I elected AOL three or four years ago because it was easy to use and offered 
three months free. I have stayed there partly due to inertia and partly due 
to some of AOL's internal photography message boards where I regularly 
communicate with other darkroom rats. I have avoided the HTML mess by 
electing to use the 5.0 version. That said, I don't know that I would ever 
miss AOL if I moved to another server; neither am I aware of anything I would 
gain by moving. Can you fill me in on what I might gain (by e-mail to avoid 
cluttering the newsgroup further)?
Thanks,
Ed Matthew
Indianapolis IN
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Re: Color Neg Film Balanced for Tungsten

[IronWorks]

You might want to take a look at this Kodak article:

http://www.kodak.com/cluster/global/en/consumer/products/techInfo/ac61/index
.shtml

Maris

- Original Message -
From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Pentax List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 9:42 AM
Subject: Color Neg Film Balanced for Tungsten


| What, if any, color print film is balanced for tungsten?
| Anything in 400 or 800 ISO?
|
| --
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| mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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| and a great photograph is subtleties."
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Re: OT: AOL Version 6.0

[Joseph McAllister]

On 02/03/2001 09:56, Doug Brewer opined:

>Oh, and please, please, do not let this degenerate into another 
>HTML/plain text war.
>
>Doug
>
>
>
>At 9:50 AM -06002/3/01, William Robb caused thus to appear:
>>Maybe a dumb question, and WAY off topic, but I can't see a
>>reason to use AOL, but I knwo there are many on the list who do.
>>What do they offer?
>>Thanks

To me, they offer a backup email account that I can count on should all 
others go the way of fly-by-nights.

Over the years, I have had a half dozen ISPs or Email account firms go 
away, leaving me high and dry. But I always have AOL on my letterhead and 
cards as a second source, just in case.

And they also serve up my web pages. Good insurance for $9.95 a month 
(Internet Access).

jomac@aol


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Re: OT: AOL Version 6.0

[William Robb]

I really was just curious. BTW, I still have that AOL version 5
coaster awaiting the first caller. This is the rare last version
that supports plain text email. A must have peice of software
for any AOL subscriber.
William Robb
- Original Message -
From: "Doug Brewer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: February 3, 2001 11:56 AM
Subject: Re: OT: AOL Version 6.0


> I don't usually find myself defending the use of AOL (in fact,
this
> may be the one and only time), but I can see why someone would
use
> it.

I really was just curious.
BTW, I still have that AOL version 5 coaster awaiting the first
caller.
This is the rare last version that supports plain text email. A
must have peice of software for any AOL subscriber. As an added
bonus, it comes with 540 free minutes of online time (based on
18 hours per day, 7 days a week) for the first subscription
month. (Free minutes offer only available in Canada).
This offer is limited to one CD only, and may be repeated at any
time. Respond now for your free AOL version 5 collectors item
CD.
Free shipping to any location, anywhere in the world.
William Robb



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Re: OT: AOL Version 6.0

[Ann Sanfedele]

William Robb wrote:

> Maybe a dumb question, and WAY off topic, but I can't see a
> reason to use AOL, but I knwo there are many on the list who do.
> What do they offer?
> Thanks

A handy way to raise you blood pressure, mostly.
I can't wait to see the posts on what is good about it.

One of the world's shortest books?

I have an AOL account as an emergency backup for $4.95
a month, so I can get to ebay even if my server is down or I'm visiting
someone who has it I
can easily access the email I had forwarded there from my regualr
server.  But there are so
many annoyances I can't count them.

annsan







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Re: OT: AOL Version 6.0

[Rfsindg]

Bill,

I use AOL 5.0 and won't upgrade to 6.0 even with Doug's patch to send plain 
text (It looks like a pain in the a__).  

To answer your question, I was in Phoenix and Atlanta this week.  My AOL 
account was a local phone call away in both cases.  Very convenient.

And I did need to call !!!   The email volume is getting very heavy.  200 per 
day.

Regards,  Bob S.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< Maybe a dumb question, and WAY off topic, but I can't see a
 reason to use AOL, but I knwo there are many on the list who do.
 What do they offer?
 Thanks
 Bill >>
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Re: OT: AOL Version 6.0

[Doug Brewer]

I don't usually find myself defending the use of AOL (in fact, this 
may be the one and only time), but I can see why someone would use 
it. Here are a couple reasons:

1.) Ubiquitous nodes. Pretty much anywhere you go (at least in the 
States) there's a local dial-up number.

2.) Family reasons. Your relatives, who have no earthly idea what the 
Internet is or how you would interface with it, are comfortable using 
it. This also applies within your own house if you have a budding 
adolescent with friends who use AOL.

That said, I'd prefer, if anyone on the list is going to use AOL, 
that they use an earlier version that supports plain text or consider 
employing another email client to interface with the list, as Peder 
did.

Oh, and please, please, do not let this degenerate into another 
HTML/plain text war.

Doug



At 9:50 AM -06002/3/01, William Robb caused thus to appear:
>Maybe a dumb question, and WAY off topic, but I can't see a
>reason to use AOL, but I knwo there are many on the list who do.
>What do they offer?
>Thanks
>Bill
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Ashwood Lake Photography
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PUG's back

[William Robb]

The PUG is back on line.
Bill

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Re: Color Neg Film Balanced for Tungsten

[William Robb]

Hmmm. I must be on crack. My first go round at Kodak's website
indicated that the stuff was available in 120 and sheet only.
Now I can't find that page, but the one I am looking at now
definitely lists it as available in 35mm.
Must be another flashback
Bill
- Original Message -
From: "tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: February 3, 2001 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: Color Neg Film Balanced for Tungsten


> According to B+H, Portra 100T is available in 35mm.
>
> tv
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Re OT: Ages of Newgrange & Stonehenge (Dan M's PUG entry)

[Lasse Karlsson]

Bob W. regarding the dating of Stonehenge and Newgrange, wrote:
> Sorry to be so pedantic, but there are already far too many myths
> around about Stonehenge and other ancient sites. The facts are far
> more interesting.

Not pedantic at all Bob. Thanks for the interesting info, despite it's high OT-factor 
:).
(Btw. during four summer seasons I used to work on archaeological excavations ranging 
from the (Scandinavian) Stone age up to the early eightteenth century. Even in charge 
of one. Fascinating stuff.)

Lasse


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Re: Need help: How to retain image sharpness on extreme enlargements!

[Kenneth Waller]

Sid, I've gotten excellent results (IMHO) in getting 16" X 20" prints from
original 35mm images. I have a local lab shoot a 4" X 5" internegative of
the slide and then print from the neg using the slide as a color guide. The
interneg cost approx. $11-12. The cost per print varies with the number of
prints printed at one time - ie. more prints at a given time results in
lower cost per print.
16"X20" prints were about $ 25 each, with 1 to 3 additional costing $ 12
each. While I have no experience with larger prints, I believe I could get
similar results at 20" X 24". The quality of the final print will obviously
be determined by the quality of the initial 35mm image. I haven't actually
gotten any large prints of this size using the digital approach, but I
believe the quality would be better than by conventional means, but much
more expensive. Hope this helps.
Ken Waller
- Original Message -
From: Sid Barras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 10:57 PM
Subject: Need help: How to retain image sharpness on extreme enlargements!


> Hi All:
>
> I've got a local interior architect interested in some of my black and
> white photography, and she wants me to produce a catalog of contact
> sheets or small prints for her to present to clients on a continuing
> basis. (No problem there...)
>
> But immediately, she's already sold a series of swamp scenes I did a
> couple of years ago, based on some 8 x 10 examples I gave her to use.
>
> These photographs are all in 35mm format. About half are TMY (400 ISO
> Tmax), about one fourth are TMX (100 ISO Tmax) and the rest are either
> Plus x, or FP4 +.
>
> She wants them in sizes ranging from approximately 18 x 24 inches to 30
> x 40 inches.  I don't need to do the math to figure out that this is
> really pushing the limits of these negatives to retain any kind of
> crispness.
>
> I therefore ask my learned brethren for advice: what am I gonna do for
> this? This could represent a real breakthrough into the world of "income
> (money!) producing photography", so I'm really, really interested in
> having this project turn out well.
>
> Should I have the negative drum scanned?
>
> Then what? I think I should produce something that's archivally sound
> here too. (Like no ink jet or Dye-sub prints.)
>
> I talked to the guy at the service bureau where I used to have my
> Running club's newsletter printed about drum scanning, and he seemed to
> think this route my not be very cost efficient, since I'd only be
> wanting a few copies (at best) of each print, and the kind of equipment
> he uses are geared to producing many many copies before it starts
> becoming cost effective.
>
> I've heard of having a large format negative made from a 35mm neg or
> print, but don't have any idea or experience in this area.
>
> Surely someone in this group has been down this road before. Some idea
> as to what kind of cost to me a lab would charge would be helpful too.
>
> Thanks, not only for your help on this, but to all the fine advice this
> group has given me before now, too.
>
> regards,
>
> Sid
>
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Re: Color Neg Film Balanced for Tungsten

[tom]

According to B+H, Portra 100T is available in 35mm.

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PUG Gallery

[William Robb]

I tried to view the PUG this AM, and again just now. The Komkon
server seems to be down. I have a call in to tech support.
Hopefully this won't be for too long.
Thanks
Bill

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Re: Color Neg Film Balanced for Tungsten

[William Robb]

- Original Message -
From: "Shel Belinkoff"  What, if any, color print film is balanced for tungsten?
> Anything in 400 or 800 ISO?

Fuji NPL 160:
http://www.fujifilm.com/tcm.html?x-tempest-op=generic&ContentId=
59&UserTypeId=4&CurrentTopCategory=2&pagetype=ContentItemLeaf

Kodak Portra 100T is available in sheets, and 120, but strangely
enough, not 35mm.

Nothing, apparently from Agfa.

Knowing that an 80A filter is two stops, an 800 speed daylight
film would give a very slight speed advantage.
TEST YOUR METER.
The meter in the LX, and possibly other cameras from that era
are prone to oversensitivity when exposed to tungsten or other
warm light sources. Over expose at least 1 stop with the LX and
uncorrected tungsten light.
William Robb


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Re: How To Send Plain Text in AOL Version 6.0

[Delano Mireles]

Can't you simply use AOL as your 'ISP' and then set up a free pop email acct
with someone like crosswinds.net and use something like Outlook?


D

on 2/3/01 10:52 AM, Peter Alling at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> If that doesn't convince someone to stop using AOL
> then nothing will.
> 
> --- Doug Brewer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Jay O'Brien sent this to the majordomo users list.
>> Thought it might
>> be of interest here. And I might also take this
>> opportunity to remind
>> everyone to use plain text.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> How to send plain text from AOL V6.0:
>> =
>> 
>> 1. Make sure your font is set to Arial 10, the AOL
>> default.
>> 
>> 2. Create a message using only default Arial 10
>> type. Any
>> quoted text pasted in from another message must
>> also be
>> in Arial 10 type (no bold, other sizes or
>> colors). Note:
>> if you paste a message that was received in HTML
>> format,
>> it will probably cause you to send in HTML.
>> 
>> 3. Hit Control-A to highlight the entire message.
>> 
>> 4. Right click anywhere in the message itself: A
>> 'popup menu'
>> will appear. Move the cursor to "text" and
>> another menu
>> will appear. Move the cursor to "normal" and
>> click on it.
>> 
>> 5. Send the message.
>> 
>> ==
>> 
>> I don't think even AOL knows how to do this.
>> 
>> This has been tested at length and apparently is
>> relatively
>> easy to accomplish in AOL 6.0. Of course AOL
>> "updates" their
>> users software on line without the users knowledge,
>> so this
>> fix could be removed by AOL at any time.
>> 
>> Attempts to communicate with AOL result in
>> boilerplate messages
>> that "apologize for the inconvenience" and suggest
>> fixes that
>> don't work.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Doug
>> 
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>> Ashwood Lake Photography
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Getting' funky with film choices

[William Robb]

- Original Message -
From: "D. Glenn Arthur Jr." Subject: Getting' funky with film
choices


>
> PS:  A small bit of good news.  The AF280T that I thought had
been
> stolen in the burglary had just gotten kicked behind other
stuff --
> it must have fallen out of the bag.  I'm still rather
depressed
> about the things that _are_ gone.  Oh, and I can't find two
_broken_
> screwmount cameras that were waiting for me to get around to
taking
> apart to send someone the lens mount flange from.


Sorry to heat about your loss. I can't really help you with the
film choices, as I haven't ried what you are suggesting. I think
that slide film processed in C-41 becomes a sort of negative
film. I fear that your candle light stuff my become very blue
with cross processed slide film.
Bill

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A35-105/3.5 as a substitute for A35-70/4

[Takehiko Ueda]

Hi all,

Yesterday, I found in a shop an A35-105/3.5 for JP\18,800 
(approx. US$160).  From what I saw at the Stan's Lens Page,
it has obtained fairly good reputations from PDMLers.

I've got an A35-70/4 and an A70-210/4 to cover the rage. 
I've been wondering if I should get one to replace the
35-70.

Your honest opinions and comments will be helpful.  Thanks
in advance.

Sincerely,


Take Ueda, Osaka, Japan
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realworld comparsion: 4x5",35mm,DIGITAL

[canislupus]

A link to a nice article comparsion of 4x5", 35mm and various megapixels
digitals. With actual pictures!


http://www.users.qwest.net/~rnclark/scandetail.htm

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Re: "Available dark" - TIPS & IDEAS

[Bill D. Casselberry]

 canislupus wrote:

> ... talk about extreme situations. Here are folks who (like me;)
> try to push the MOST speed off a film, to put MOST TCs on a lens 
> (was it someone's 64/4800mm rig? the UFO=flare shot last year ;)
 
that was me - I admit! "6400mm, guilty as charged"  :^D

> 2) flash but unobtrusive - IR

I haven't used these, but you want the flash head that outputs
IR light. From discussions on the IRList, the E6 film isn't all
that great for this & will be badly distorted after a few shots
from the heat - if you try it, have plenty on hand.

> Film to use, and its development? (B&W IR)

the "real thing" Kodak HIE b&w - the SFX is just a rather extended
red response film.

> Filter over the lens? Won't it lose too much light?

if you shoot by IR illumination in minimal normal lighting, no
filter will be needed on the lens, as alluded to earlier.

> Will the TTL metering work well? 

your IR source will be constant, so manual exposure after a
determination would be sufficient.

> Perhaps I should use Manual flash setting - but is there any easy way to
> figure the IR Guidenumber without having to run a full roll of film at same
> aperture and changing flash->subject distance and picking the best shots?

the Kodak insert (probably on website, as well) gives flash guide
numbers for various BCPS ratings, which are not exactly enough
the same for an "easy" comparison. some experimentation would probably
be good to determine where your flash falls in the chart. It mentions
use of a #87 on the lens, but this is to eliminate any ambient light
which your darkness circumstances seem to make rather unnecessary. 


Bill

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Re: Need help: How to retain image sharpness on extreme enlargements!

[Bill D. Casselberry]

 Sid wrote:
 
> But immediately, she's already sold a series of swamp scenes I did a
> couple of years ago, based on some 8 x 10 examples I gave her to use.
 
> These photographs are all in 35mm format. 
 
> She wants them in sizes ranging from approximately 18 x 24 inches to 30
> x 40 inches. 

I'd talk to her about potential appearance of such large sizes
to be sure the implications are understood. The intended placement
of and viewing distance of large prints is an important factor.
I have had 20x30's made that looked "pretty rough" up close, but
when hung on the wall of the bank 16feet from the teller's windows
(customers therefor limited to how close they could approach them)
all was just peachy.

In another situation a 20x30 had to be sharp enough that folks
could put their noses on the glass. Much more attention had to
be applied to creating that one "on purpose", rather than pick-
ing one out from previously accumulated shots.

In the first instance, Kodak Gold 1000 from 1989 film technology
sufficed, while I used Agfa APX25 in 120 format for that latter.

You might suggest a "series" - a few larger prints to be hung
high on the walls, safe from scrutinization coupled w/ smaller
ones placed in more accessible spots w/in the decor design plan.

Bill

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Re: Another LX and other tales

[Bob Walkden]

Hi,

Gianfranco Irlanda wrote:

[...]
> shot. The pictures were among the best examples of double exposures I've ever
> seen: shots of toreadors on shots of paintings of various ages representing
> bulls, sacrifices, ancient women. Strong colors made the rest...
[...]

Sounds like a rally enjoyable time all round, Gianfranco. I met Lucien
Clergue very briefly in Arles, or possibly Agen, in 1981, but at that time
I wasn't familiar with his work, and had no idea of his reputation, although
I had heard of him. An opportunity wasted.

Issue 9, October 2000, of the US magazine "B&W" has a feature on Clergue and
includes quite a few photos spanning his career so far. It includes some of
the triptychs which I think you're referring to.

-- 
Cheers,
Bob

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Re[2]: Another LX and other tales

[Bob Walkden]

Hi,

Robert Harris wrote:

[...]

> Don't be unhappy. Celebrate. My current wife is 17 years younger than I
> am and everything has worked out fine for both of us. You must realize
> that we men only improve with age. :)

Men Improve with the Years
==

I am worn out with dreams;
A weather-worn, marble triton
Among the streams;
And all day long I look
Upon this lady's beauty
As though I had found in a book
A pictured beauty,
Pleased to have filled the eyes
Or the discerning ears,
Delighted to be but wise,
For men improve with the years;
And yet, and yet,
Is this my dream, or the truth?
O would that we had met
When I had my burning youth!
But I grow old among dreams,
A weather-worn, marble triton
Among the streams.

William Butler Yeats

-- 
Cheers,
Bob

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