Re: fast 28mm shootoff--Vivitar Series 1 vs. Kiron (was My lens collection (was 24mm-K's))
Hi Paul, It is a circular hood, thread on. I use it with a regular filter without vignetting. I do have two 28 1.9`s, I guess I like them. The 35mm .9 you refer to, I think you mean the f1.9? I don`t have that one, and would`nt mind hearing some feedback about it, if anyone has it. Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2001 4:05 PM Subject: Re: fast 28mm shootoff--Vivitar Series 1 vs. Kiron (was My lens collection (was 24mm-K's)) Steve, Thanks for sharing the word about a Vivitar 58mm wide-angle hood. I had no idea such a hood existed! I'll certainly keep my eyes peeled for one. Of course, if a find a second, you'll be the first to know. PS: Is it a circular hood, square, or rectangular? How is it attached? I hope it's threaded on; my slim filters won't accept threaded hoods. PPS: Do I understand that you own TWO Series 1 28/1.9s? One in K-mount, the other in M42? Have you tried the Vivitar 35/.9? I see it listed all the time in M42 and non-Pentax bayonet mounts. I believe it was single-coated. That's all I know. "Steve Larson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found a "Vivitar WIDEANGLE HOOD 58mm Japan" (that`s what it says on the hood) that I got off ebay that I think is perfect for he 28mm Vivitar. I need to find another one since I have one in K mount and M42. I wonder if Vivitar made a hood specifically for it? Paul Franklin Stregevsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: (703) 834-4648 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
IS
How does IS work? I have seen it done with video camera's where it is done electronically, but how do you do it with a photo camera? Frits - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New (reported) 18mm - smart move
On Sat, 10 Mar 2001 17:52:58 -0800, "Bill D. Casselberry" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul wrote: ... I mean, is it really worth paying dearly for a 20 if you have a good 24? Yes :^) Double yes! (I have an A-20/2.8 and an FA*24/2.0 and I wouldn't part with *either* of them.) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: IS
Frits wrote: How does IS work? I have seen it done with video camera's where it is done electronically, but how do you do it with a photo camera? It is done by adjusting a lens element with fast microdrives (tilting I think), which compensates for the change of the optical axis. This technique is also used in binoculars (e.g. Canon). It is even possible to move the lens element with a clever mechanics alone, but the precision effort is so high that this is not realized in photo lenses. A pure mechanical image stabilized Zeiss binocular exists (very expensive). This reminds me that Pentax holds an old Patent about an autofocus shift lens. This lens uses an internal shift, means only one lens element is moved to create a shift effect for architecture work. Like many other Patents, this product never was marketed. Ralf - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New (reported) 18mm - smart move
Ralf wrote: I'm starting to wonder whether it can be a Limited lens. Another thing that makes me smell Limited here is that the 18mm is a classic K mount focal lenght. I own the K 18/3.5 so that nothing but a Limited would tempt me to buy a new 18mm. Anyway, 18mm is great focal lenght and its really nice that Pentax offers it again. Would this argue _against_ it being a Limited?? I mean, so far, all the Limiteds have been new and unique focal lengths, have they not? And from what I hear, that was a deliberate part of the prospectus for the Limited lenses--or is this not so? --Mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: first cold head results
Paul Stenquist wrote: (snip) And of course I'm using the same lower head with both the condensers and the cold head, (snip) I would say, Paul, that you're still printing with a condensor system, but you've exchanged the opal bulb for a cold-light head. To get a diffused system you need to have the diffused light source, or a diffusion-box, directly over the film-stage. Also, you don't mention what film you were printing. Traditional bw films create the Callier effect when printed with condensed light (extremely so with point-source light) which causes tonal distortion in the mid-tones. This is because light is scattered by the silver grains and the paper receives less exposure than a particular density of silver theoretically should have transmitted. However the clear film doesn't cause any appreciable scatter so practically all of the light reaching the negative is passed to the paper from the clear shadows. The effect isn't as noticeable in the highlights because that area is usually printed to the same density as a matter of the individual operator's preference. Your mileage may vary :-) Chromogenic films (be they bw or colour) have had the silver grains removed by bleaching when processed, the image is a dye-image only so there is no Callier effect. What this means is that chromogenic films will print with the same characteristics whether a condensor or a diffusion enlarger is used. Silver grained films, OTOH, will behave very differently according to the illumination type of the enlarger. Unless you use the same type of film you could be comparing apples with oranges! Regards, Anthony Farr - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Repeat messages?
Ken Archer confessed: I have a feeling I am partially responsible. My ISP, Roadrunner, installed an "upgrade" on its mail server about a week ago. It crashed big time on Monday night right after I posted some new stuff on ebay. What else can you expect from NT? I have been without email service for three days and I guess everything was getting bounced back to Majordomo. Sorry. I just couldn't help it and I'll never do it again ;-).I hope. Telstra BigPond (a large ISP by Australian standards, and my ISP) had its mail server "go out" on Friday, and although it was back by the end of the day my PDML supply was a mere trickle until Sunday (then, WHAM, almost 500 messages in one hit). What I'm saying is that Ken might be assuming too much of the blame upon himself (well, his ISP anyway). Regards, Anthony Farr - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
LX rewind lever cover
When I was out shooting yesterday, I somehow knocked the little plastic (?) cover off the top of the rewind know on my LX. I looked around the area where I was shooting for a while, but couldn't find it. (I was on frozen mud and grass, so the odds were against finding it.) Is there some way I can obtain a cap? Would Pentax supply that as a part? I don't suppose anyone out there has an LX that they've relegated to the parts bin? Paul - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New (reported) 18mm - smart move
Mike wrote: Ralf wrote: I'm starting to wonder whether it can be a Limited lens. Another thing that makes me smell Limited here is that the 18mm is a classic K mount focal lenght. Would this argue _against_ it being a Limited?? I mean, so far, all the Limiteds have been new and unique focal lengths, ... Though I would like to be an owner of a K 18mm, it was Paal who wrote this. I think it is as much possible that this lens is a limited lens as it is that it is a FA* lens. For me the limited lenses are more or less new editions of the most outstanding M-series lenses. E.g. this way: M 2.8/40mmFA 1.9/43mm limited M 2.0/85mmFA 1.8/77mm limited M 2.0/28mmFA 1.8/31mm limited There was a very compact M 4.0/20mm, so in case the 18mm is not f2.8 but slower, it could be a limited lens, but I rather see it as a FA* lens, especially since the 20mm is a standard FA-type. If you ask me, a limited superwideangle would rather be a moderate fast 21mm than a 18mm. Also, a mid tele was rumored as the next limited lens (whatever this is worth). Ralf - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT: Modified Film Processing, advice please.
Yesterday I was the pit crew photographer for a friends SCCA race car effort (Alfa Romeo GTV-6 FWIW) at Texas World Speedway. The day started out bright and I loaded some Fuji Neopan SS ISO 100 into my (required Pentax content) PZ-20 and snapped on the Sigma 28-200 lens. By the time we arrived at the track it was starting to cloud over and I would have liked to change over to Ilford HP-5 at ISO 400 (midrole change would be nice). Anyway, I finished the day with 1 role of the Neopan and 3 roles of the HP-5 exposed at rated ISO. Now to the question. The overcast day brought on some pretty flat lighting, with some occasional sunny times. Today I want to develop these rolls and I am thinking I would like to perk up the negs a bit. My first thought is to just develop them at a higher ISO. I only have Ilford Ilfosol-S available today. The Ilford data sheets tell me that I can get ISO 800 on the HP-5 by increasing development time. I imagine the same is true of the Fuji but I don't have any tech details on the film yet, got it on sale and I usually don't use Fuji B/W. These are important pics for me and my friend and could result in a pic credit or two in the national Alfa magazine. Iwould also like to give my friend a nice enlargement for his allowing me into the pits with him. Advice on how to procede is welcome. Waiting and using another developer is an option. Jerry in Houston
Re: For Sale Tokina 80-400 AF Zoom Lens!
Tom R. wrote: And the sarcastic mode was meant to be humorous, I mean, people I know don't talk like that. And going out of my way to make it clear I was being sarcastic, I thought would be taken to be in fun. It certainly was more apparent than a smiley face. But, I guess one man's sense of humor is another man's rudeness. - --Tom I certainly didn't see anything at all objectionable in your post, and I was surprised that anyone could. I share your disgust with inflated equipment ratings on eBay and everywhere else. "Mint plus" is patently absurd and there's nothing wrong that I can see with pointing that out. I was told by one dealer once that a "9 out of 10" was "at least four grades down from perfect" for them because you had 9+, 10-, and mint- before you got to "mint." I told him that by my arithmetic, 4 grades down from a 10 was a 6, a number which would have accurately described the "9" camera he sent me. Cheating bastard. --Mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: eBay payment methods / Zenitar fisheye
I've used BidPay http://www.bidpay.com/ a few times. I live in UK and most auctions are US or Canadian. The advantage is that you pay by credit card which is the easiest way of doing currency conversions. The seller gets notified direct from BidPay that a money order is on its way so they can ship the goods. It costs the buyer $5 flat for payments less that $100 or 2.25% +$5 for orders over $100. The seller pays nothing so has no reason to object to this method. I too have been watching those Zenitars - there seem to be lots of them for sale. Would be interested in your views appearing here once you've had chance to use it. Regards Peter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Frits J. Wthrich Sent: 11 March 2001 11:46 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: eBay payment methods Now that I participated in my first eBay auction I gain interest in it. I have read on this list from members stating they will use nothing else then paypal. Since the participating country list is so limited, I wonder what they think of Billpoint? That one is world-wide. Are there other services like that? Advantages/disadvantages? Any input is welcome. Frits (now waiting for his Zenitar M 2.8/16mm) Wuthrich - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 28/2-class lens specs: Seven Third-Party Lenses vs. Three Pentax 28/2s(was: Re: fast kiron on ebay)
Rob, A longer barrel--such as that used on the SMC 28/2, which was designed with Zeiss--can bend the rays more "gently." Isn't extra barrel distortion one of the compromises usually introduced by a shorter lens (unless, perhaps, an aspherical element is used)? Isn't that why "no compromise" lenses are typically longer, and use more elements? Or do I need to brush up on my limited understanding of Cartesian optics? PS: Of course, every lens design is a compromise. By no-compromise, I mean to suggest "the best a lens maker has to offer." "Rob Studdert" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Subject: Re: 28/2-class lens specs: Seven Third-Party Lenses vs. Three Pentax 28/2s (was: Re: fast kiron on ebay) On 10 Mar 2001, at 19:20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To my eye, 28mm is the widest practical focal length for "people-shooting," which is what I do. True, it makes people at the edges of the frame look fat. But this problem is minimized by selecting a well-corrected prime. Hi Paul, Please explain, to my mind there should be a similar degree of perspective distortion present (ie elongation of close objects at the edge of the frame) in any well corrected optic. The only way that I can imagine that there would be differences is if the lens that looks more normal has a semi-spherical plane of focus? Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 Fax +61-2-9554-9259 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: relaxer for film?
tv wrote: It will...every roll of b+w I develop curls, but they flatten fine under weight. I use a box of paper. Film and paper will curl less if it dries more slowly. Just increase the humidity of the drying environment and the film will curl less. --Mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: fast 28mm shootoff--Vivitar Series 1 vs. Kiron (was My lens collection (was 24mm-K's))
Paul Stregevsky wrote: Have you tried the Vivitar 35/.9? I see it listed all the time in M42 and non-Pentax bayonet mounts. I believe it was single-coated. That's all I know. Paul, I assume you are talking about the Vivitar 35mm f1.9 lens. I've got one of these in M42 mount that came with a M42 - K adapter attached to it. ( Whoever put the adapter on had no intention of ever removing it, they took the "locking" pin off of the adapter! ) The lens is surprisingly good for a mid 70's Third Party lens. It is prone to a little flare, and benefits from a good lens hood. This lens convinced me to start working toward a SMC Pentax-M 35mm f2.0. I like 35mm for many "People" pictures, and a fast f- stop allows me to forgo flash when necessary. ( I'm about to list this lens and a Vivitar 28mm f2.8 on eBay, gotta sell so stuff if I want to buy that SMC! ) Mark Gosdin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: IS
Thanks Ralf! Frits wrote: How does IS work? I have seen it done with video camera's where it is done electronically, but how do you do it with a photo camera? It is done by adjusting a lens element with fast microdrives (tilting I think), which compensates for the change of the optical axis. This technique is also used in binoculars (e.g. Canon). It is even possible to move the lens element with a clever mechanics alone, but the precision effort is so high that this is not realized in photo lenses. A pure mechanical image stabilized Zeiss binocular exists (very expensive). This reminds me that Pentax holds an old Patent about an autofocus shift lens. This lens uses an internal shift, means only one lens element is moved to create a shift effect for architecture work. Like many other Patents, this product never was marketed. Ralf - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
[FW:Pentax 645 Outift]
Spotted in rec.photo.marketplace http://groups.google.com/groups?oi=djqas_ugroup=rec.photo.marketplace Todd Subject: Pentax 645 Outift Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 12:56:52 -0600 From: "jsrtheta" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: rec.photo.marketplace FS: Pentax 645 body, soft case, 120 insert, manual. Lenses included: 45mm, 55mm, 75mm, 150mm. $2000 + shipping, firm. Jeff Ryan (773) 868-9213, or email [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
[FW: PentaxSpotmatic SP w/4 SMC lenses.]
Spotted in rec.photo.marketplace.35mm http://groups.google.com/groups?oi=djqas_ugroup=rec.photo.marketplace Todd Subject: FS: PentaxSpotmatic SP w/4 SMC lenses. Date: 10 Mar 2001 01:46:24 GMT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pafralio) Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Newsgroups: rec.photo.marketplace.35mm Camera and lenses in good shape cosmetically; meter works although not testedforaccuracy. All lenses have front and rear lens caps. Lenses are as follows: 35mm f3.5 105mm f2.8 135mm f3.5 200mm f4.0 $500.00, shipped CONUS. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
[FW: Pentak K1000 and Lens more.]
Spotted in rec.photo.marketplace.35mm http://groups.google.com/groups?oi=djqas_ugroup=rec.photo.marketplace Todd Subject: FS: Pentak K1000 and Lens more. Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 11:44:01 -0600 (CST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ANDREW) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Newsgroups: rec.photo.marketplace.35mm For Sale: Pentak K 1000 camera and SMC Pentax-A 1:2 50mm Lens. Camera is in great shape. There is a little nick on the battery door. The lens is in great shape. There are some scracthes on the outside part were the filters screw in. I also have. 2 Camera bags. One is a (New) Kalimar Pro-Tech bag. It's gray and measures 11in. x 8in. x 6.5in. The other is a Coast S-1 bag. It is tan and measures about the same. It may be a hair bigger. Also 2 camera straps. One is a Kalimar Ultrawide strap. I don't know what the other one is. The Kalimer is new in the pack. Also I have a Kalimar PS-3 Light Weight Tripod. Also Kalimar Close up filters. Size 52mm (+1 +2 +4) Asking $225.00 OBO For all of it. Includes S/H in the USA. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: first cold head results
Anthony Farr wrote: I would say, Paul, that you're still printing with a condensor system, but you've exchanged the opal bulb for a cold-light head. To get a diffused system you need to have the diffused light source, or a diffusion-box, directly over the film-stage. I'm sorry if I wasn't clear. The Stage VI cold light conversion replaces the B22's condensers and light source, so the cold light box is directly over the film stage. Also, you don't mention what film you were printing. I've been printing T-Max 400. I made another dozen or so prints yesterday. I'm quite pleased with the results. I guess I had expected a loss of apparent sharpness, but that doesn't seem to be the case, and the overall richness of the prints is nice. Paul - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Modified Film Processing, advice please.
I would develop the negs normal or with just a minimal push. I certainly wouldn't push the film a full stop. I might add 10% development time or so, but that's about it. If you need more contrast, you can accomplish that with paper grade or filtration when printing. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yesterday I was the pit crew photographer for a friends SCCA race car effort (Alfa Romeo GTV-6 FWIW) at Texas World Speedway. The day started out bright and I loaded some Fuji Neopan SS ISO 100 into my (required Pentax content) PZ-20 and snapped on the Sigma 28-200 lens. By the time we arrived at the track it was starting to cloud over and I would have liked to change over to Ilford HP-5 at ISO 400 (midrole change would be nice). Anyway, I finished the day with 1 role of the Neopan and 3 roles of the HP-5 exposed at rated ISO. Now to the question. The overcast day brought on some pretty flat lighting, with some occasional sunny times. Today I want to develop these rolls and I am thinking I would like to perk up the negs a bit. My first thought is to just develop them at a higher ISO. I only have Ilford Ilfosol-S available today. The Ilford data sheets tell me that I can get ISO 800 on the HP-5 by increasing development time. I imagine the same is true of the Fuji but I don't have any tech details on the film yet, got it on sale and I usually don't use Fuji B/W. These are important pics for me and my friend and could result in a pic credit or two in the national Alfa magazine. Iwould also like to give my friend a nice enlargement for his allowing me into the pits with him. Advice on how to procede is welcome. Waiting and using another developer is an option. Jerry in Houston - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: LX rewind lever cover
Last I heard, Pentax was still supporting the LX and I expect them to support it for some time to come. I Understand Pentax US had all parts necessary last year and I expect they have this part today to restore any LX to an "as sold" late model state. That being said, I own 5 LX's and none have or ever had a "little plastic (?) cover off[on] the top of the rewind [knob/lever]. They have a black/metallic rewind knob out of which a rewind crank folds similar to all my camera types. It is naked with no cover as are all my other cameras. Did you loose this crank/knob? Regards, Bob... Give blood. Play hockey. From: "PAUL STENQUIST" [EMAIL PROTECTED] When I was out shooting yesterday, I somehow knocked the little plastic (?) cover off the top of the rewind know on my LX. I looked around the area where I was shooting for a while, but couldn't find it. (I was on frozen mud and grass, so the odds were against finding it.) Is there some way I can obtain a cap? Would Pentax supply that as a part? I don't suppose anyone out there has an LX that they've relegated to the parts bin? Paul - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Inexpensive K-mount camera for teaching kids photography
Spotted at ritzcamera.com, for $110 you can get a new Ricoh with 35-70mm zoom lens: http://www.ritzcamera.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ExecMacro/ritzcamera/ritz.d2w/r eport?prp=CLRSLRC002 Free shipping too. At that price I might have to pick one up :) Todd - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New (reported) 18mm - smart move
The unique focal lengths were no doubt chosen, in large part, so as not to cannibalize sales of the non-Limited lenses. There is, however, no new 18mm lens in the regular lineup, so there's nothing to lose by introducing it as a Limited. -- Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 07:57:33 -0600 From: Mike Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: New (reported) 18mm - smart move So far, all the Limiteds have been new and unique focal lengths, have they not? And from what I hear, that was a deliberate part of the prospectus for the Limited lenses--or is this not so? - --Mike - - Paul Franklin Stregevsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: (703) 834-4648 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 28/2-class lens specs: Seven Third-Party Lenses vs. Three Pentax 28/2s(was: Re: fast kiron on ebay)
Hi, I am not Rob but I think he's right. I my (also limited) understanding the elongation of objects near the edge of the image produced by rectilinear super wide angle lenses is not related to optical aberrations of these lenses. It is inherent in how the image is projected on the film by these lenses. To avoid this you need a "cylindrical projection" (with the viewer in the center of the cylinder) as is provided e.g. by the Seitz roundshot camera. Also fish-eye lenses do not show such kind of elongations of close subjects near the edge. Alexander Mike Johnston wrote: Rob, A longer barrel--such as that used on the SMC 28/2, which was designed with Zeiss--can bend the rays more "gently." Isn't extra barrel distortion one of the compromises usually introduced by a shorter lens (unless, perhaps, an aspherical element is used)? Isn't that why "no compromise" lenses are typically longer, and use more elements? Or do I need to brush up on my limited understanding of Cartesian optics? PS: Of course, every lens design is a compromise. By no-compromise, I mean to suggest "the best a lens maker has to offer." "Rob Studdert" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Subject: Re: 28/2-class lens specs: Seven Third-Party Lenses vs. Three Pentax 28/2s (was: Re: fast kiron on ebay) On 10 Mar 2001, at 19:20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To my eye, 28mm is the widest practical focal length for "people-shooting," which is what I do. True, it makes people at the edges of the frame look fat. But this problem is minimized by selecting a well-corrected prime. Hi Paul, Please explain, to my mind there should be a similar degree of perspective distortion present (ie elongation of close objects at the edge of the frame) in any well corrected optic. The only way that I can imagine that there would be differences is if the lens that looks more normal has a semi-spherical plane of focus? Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 Fax +61-2-9554-9259 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 28-105 powerzoom vs 28-70/4
I have the black 80-320 - aren't the two identical except for the color? I personally have found it to be a very nice lens. - MCC At 10:44 PM 3/10/01 -0600, Gary L. Murphy wrote: On Sat, 10 Mar 2001 23:19:45 -0500, Mark Cassino wrote: For me - the 28-70 and 80-320 make a great pair, easy to carry in a small Mark, Is the 80-320 you have the black FA or the silver one? How do the two compare? I've been looking at the silver one, since it seems to be the only one around now, but wanted to know from someone first hand. Thanks! Later, Gary - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Kalamazoo, MI [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - - - - - - - - - Photos: http://www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - -
Re: New (reported) 18mm - smart move
On Sun, 11 Mar 2001 13:32:37 +1300, David A. Mann wrote: If the SLR uses 35mm-system lenses then a "normal" lens would be about 35mm, I guess. Have you ever priced a 35mm f/1.4? Canon's 35/1.4 USM lens is 4 times the price of their 50/1.4 USM down here. I think you're mixing thing up here David, The digital SLR (MZ-D ?) will heve a 24x36 mm sensor, equal in size to the 35mm system FILM camera's. So the "normal" lense would be the same focal length too. Theoretically this would be 43mm (do I hear black limitted ? :-) and any of the existing 50mm lenses will do just fine ... Regards, JvW - Jan van Wijk; www.fsys.demon.nl - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Inexpensive K-mount camera for teaching kids photography
At 09:46 AM 3/11/01 -0600, you wrote: Spotted at ritzcamera.com, for $110 you can get a new Ricoh with 35-70mm zoom lens: http://www.ritzcamera.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ExecMacro/ritzcamera/ritz.d2w/r eport?prp=CLRSLRC002 Free shipping too. At that price I might have to pick one up :) Link didn't work. However you can find it by going to their site and doing a search on Ricoh. Scroll down a bit. Pax et bonum, Gary J. Sibio, SFO - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New (reported) 18mm - smart move
Mike wrote: Would this argue _against_ it being a Limited?? I mean, so far, all the Limiteds have been new and unique focal lengths, have they not? And from what I hear, that was a deliberate part of the prospectus for the Limited lenses--or is this not so? How unique can it possible be and still stay in this focal lenght range? I mean, 14mm, 15mm, 16mm, 17mm, 18mm, 19mm, 20mm, 21mm all exist and unless Pentax makes an 17,5mm they can hardly be unique. Pl - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 28-105 powerzoom vs 28-70/4
On Sun, 11 Mar 2001 10:07:54 -0500, Mark Cassino wrote: I have the black 80-320 - aren't the two identical except for the color? I don't know. That's why I asked. :-) I personally have found it to be a very nice lens. That's what I needed to know Wonder why they dropped the black one? Thanks! Later, Gary - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Great lens on eBay!
Spotted on eBay: Pentax - Fast 50mm/1.4 SMC - Mint This is the "K" version. It has a Buy It Now price of, $89.95. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1221147215 Later, Gary - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Self-timer on Super Program
Can someone tell me if there's a trick to using the self-timer on the Super Program? I've followed the instructions in the manual but it seems to trip the shutter immediately. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: first cold head results
PAUL STENQUIST wrote: (I tried ordering some graded paper from BH. While they list a fair amount of it, they have very little in stock, at least in 11 x 14.) Funny story: I ordered a whack of Ilford graded fibre in October to cover the first-year gallery assignments at Sheridan (the local college with a good full time photography program). The 11x14 grade two and three all showed up immediately. The 16x20 grade two and three came in a few weeks later. The 16x20 grade four showed up another few weeks after that. The 11x14 grade four showed up last week. It's not that Ilford are slow, it's that demand is so low for some grades that they don't stock it in North America. Yikes! -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Don't be such an ass
aimcompute wrote: It's like receiving an A+ from a teacher in school. The highest grade one can receive is an, the + is used for emphasis. Uh, not to be sarcastic, but where I come from, an A denotes 80 to 89 percent while an A+ is for 90 to 100%. Mint+ is like saying that mint can be less than perfect, therefore there is a grade above it. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
scarce K's on ebay
noticed the mint shift lens which looks like its gonna go for 460$ in a few hours? and now there's an 'exc' 18mm f3.5 which showed up.. not to mention the 50mm f1.4.. sigh Daphne - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: a day of firsts
César, I'm just catching up too...I developed and printed my first roll of 120 last night, so I was up until 3:00 a.m. I had forgotten about the 110's at Forester's. Howell's had a couple in the display case just as you enter the store the last time I was in. I hope that your stay here is enjoyable. I had a great time at our get together friday and hope that you can make it out again this way soon. William in Utah. William, I am finally catching up with the list. I have to add that I had a great time Friday afternoon. With your insights on the place and locales I am sure it will make my short stay here more enjoyable. Congratulations on the photographic job. I most definitely get in touch whenever I come this way again. You would have enjoyed it earlier today. I had the LX on one shoulder and the MX on the other. Sprinkling rain did not even slow me one bit in taking photos. Well, yes it did, I had to wipe the water drops off the front element of the 28 and 50. It was nice to have the hoods on the 135 and 200. César Still in Utah __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Flash Programs (was:MZ-S Press Release in Japan Part II)
Hi Take and all Thanks for responding. One of the things I miss with my PZ1-p is good flash programs. I don't like motiv programs for flashless photographing. But I would like some flash programs, selectable with a single botton, like: 1. Slow flash (FDA - Flash Determins Aperture): Speed according to background/aperture to flash output/distance to subject. (It's almost there in the with PZ1-p, but I hate that the camera chooses 1/30 sec. thus underexposing the background if the correct speed really is 1/8 sec. 2. Traditional program (to freeze movement). It could be optional Tv or Av priority, feeding the focus distance/max. flash output to the camera CPU when shooting in Av. 3. Fill in flash, for e.i. back lit scenes or direct sunlight with hard shadows. Doesn't anybody make this kind of stuff? Jens -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]P; vegne af Takehiko Ueda Sendt: 11. marts 2001 14:16 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re[2]: MZ-S Press Release in Japan Part II (Was: Silver MZ-S) Hi Jens, You wrote: Hi Tank you Take, great! Can anyone please explain waht this means: (Programme with flash sync applicable) Jens Sorry to confuse you, this was too vague. To make it simple, they say that you can use flash while you are choosing programme mode. I don't know if this means the all speed sync with flash. Sincerely, Take Ueda, Osaka, Japan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.tripod.co.jp/hayatama/photo/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
South Africa
Hi fellow Pentaxians I have put a few South Africa pictures on my homepage: www.jensbladt.freeservers.com Take a look! Best Regards Jens - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax SV (brochure) - nice camera :)
I was wondering how can I select the X if it's between the 1/30 1/60 - is there an intermediate click-stop there, or I have to resort to 1/30? Frantisek and thanks for all the info! ***Glenn wrote: *** On the S1a and H3, all the _marked[*]_ speeds are in the .../15/30/60/125/... pattern, but the 'X' speed is in between 1/30 and 1/60. Could that be the source of the confusion? ([*]Uh, that is, the sync speed _is_ marked, but it's marked with an X instead of a number.) -- Glenn - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: South Africa
Very nice, Jens. I just wish I didn't have to keep scrolling from left to right and back again. Maris - Original Message - From: "Jens Bladt" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2001 1:11 PM Subject: South Africa | Hi fellow Pentaxians | I have put a few South Africa pictures on my homepage: | www.jensbladt.freeservers.com | Take a look! | Best Regards | Jens | | - | This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, | go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to | visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . | | - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: FP and X was(Pentax SV (brochure) - nice camera )
OK OK, about X, what is FP ??? I never used it, and no one ever told me or knew what it is for... any "light" hee ? I was wondering how can I select the X if it's between the 1/30 1/60 - is there an intermediate click-stop there, or I have to resort to 1/30? Frantisek and thanks for all the info! ***Glenn wrote: *** On the S1a and H3, all the _marked[*]_ speeds are in the .../15/30/60/125/... pattern, but the 'X' speed is in between 1/30 and 1/60. Could that be the source of the confusion? ([*]Uh, that is, the sync speed _is_ marked, but it's marked with an X instead of a number.) -- Glenn - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: South Africa
Thanks! Yeah, you're right. I'll try to think of something! Jens -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]P; vegne af IronWorks Sendt: 11. marts 2001 21:05 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: South Africa Very nice, Jens. I just wish I didn't have to keep scrolling from left to right and back again. Maris - Original Message - From: "Jens Bladt" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2001 1:11 PM Subject: South Africa | Hi fellow Pentaxians | I have put a few South Africa pictures on my homepage: | www.jensbladt.freeservers.com | Take a look! | Best Regards | Jens | | - | This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, | go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to | visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . | | - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
FS: leatheret case for 28mm 3.5 hood
I don't attach too much importance to name , so for those interested I have a leatheret case that was meant for 28mm 3.5 M42 lense "HOOD", price, 2 chocolate bar... Philippe
Re: Pentax SV (brochure) - nice camera :)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] asked: I was wondering how can I select the X if it's between the 1/30 1/60 - is there an intermediate click-stop there, or I have to resort to 1/30? On the models I'm familiar with, there's an extra click-stop there (gotta remember to account for it when adjusting shutter speed by touch). I would expect the same on the SV. -- Glenn - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT: Salgado interview
Hi, I found this interesting interview with Salgado from last year when his 2 books "Migrations" and "The Children" were published. http://www.theherald.co.uk/magazine/archive/23-5-19100-0-26-29.html --- Regards, Bob mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
I screwed up
All those looking for a 50/1.4 smc/K have every right to be annoyed with me. But it was an accident. I'm talking about the current ebay auction for above nemed lens. It was "buy-it-now at $89. And while I've participated in numerous ebay auctions, I've never done a "buy-it-now." So I bid $89. That's not how it works. You're supposed to click on the "buy it now thingy." So I eliminated any opportunity for buy it now, and probably drove the price up. Hey, us old guys have trouble with stuff like that. Paul - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT - If you know your Tokina hoods, please read!
Hi listers, On the subject of lens hoods, does anyone know if Tokina ever made a plastic (or metal, for that matter) 'grippy-type' push-on lens hood in 67mm diameter size? The part designation would (should) be something like: SH-671 or similar. For instance, I have the Tokina ATX 80-200 f2.8 (manual) and the hood for that is the SH-771, and it's a 77mm fit. If one was never made for that diameter, as I suspect is the case, can anyone recommend a push-on and clamp type hood suitable for a 67mm lens, specifically the Pentax A*85mm 1.4 ?? Many thanks, Cotty ___ Cotty's MacAds - free UK Macintosh classified ads at www.macads.co.uk Adverts to [EMAIL PROTECTED] / all other abuse to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 28/2-class lens specs: Seven Third-Party Lenses vs. Three Pentax 28/2s (was: Re: fast kiron on ebay)
On 11 Mar 2001, at 10:10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rob, A longer barrel--such as that used on the SMC 28/2, which was designed with Zeiss--can bend the rays more "gently." Isn't extra barrel distortion one of the compromises usually introduced by a shorter lens (unless, perhaps, an aspherical element is used)? Isn't that why "no compromise" lenses are typically longer, and use more elements? Or do I need to brush up on my limited understanding of Cartesian optics? PS: Of course, every lens design is a compromise. By no-compromise, I mean to suggest "the best a lens maker has to offer." Hi Paul, Rectilinear lenses should all provide the same projection on the film plane, it they did not then straight objects placed at the edge of the frame would be rendered curved. Therefore all well corrected rectilinear lenses should provide the same degree of subject elongation. The fact that the better SLR wide angle lenses (particularly pre-aspheric) tend to be long is due to their retrofocus design which is by all means a compromise designed to make available space in front of the film plane for the SLR mirror to swing. Don't kid yourself about SLR wide angle lenses, for real no compromise designs check out the Leica-M, Contax-G and Mamiya RF designs, most are virtually symmetrical designs and have a magnitude lower distortion than the best retrofocus wides, many are designed such that their rear elements are merely mm from the film plane. :-) Cheers, Rob Studdert (eBay ID: distudio) PO Box 701 HURSTVILLE BC NSW 1481 AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 Fax +61-2-9554-9259 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please check my current eBay auctions: http://www.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/ebay/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
EI-200 bargain on eBay, Hurry!
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1220126084 It's only $534.99, which is a new lower price! The price may go up obviously when the bidding starts. If you really don't want to take advantage of this tremendous generous offer, you can always order directly from BH for $459.95 Frits - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: eBay payment methods / Zenitar fisheye
Hi, I did this and it worked fine, they debited the $1 off my visa, but then credited it to my paypal account, so i used the $1 on my first transaction. If they $1 shows up on your visa then code should its just a part of the paypal name on the visa card statement. I also had a problem with my visa not working for a while and i called them on the telephone and i found the staff to be very very helpful. Cya - Original Message - From: "Pl Jensen" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 8:25 AM Subject: Re: eBay payment methods / Zenitar fisheye Frits wrote: I am in the process of signing up with Paypal, which also supports credit card buyers. You can set up your account in the USA, UK, France, Germany, with transfers the payments of your sales into your local bank account if you wish. It's cheaper then the others: free. Free? Theres a catch. I signed up in january. It cost $1. You're supposed to get a random four digit code with the charge on your credit card. They never did. I called my bank; no code. No code on the invoince from the bank. I've send them several e-mails but they never reply. So it seems like a scam. You get thousands of peoples credit card number and charge all of them $1. Very few are going to complain about this kind of money but in total it sums up thousands of dollars. I'm still worried that they have my credid card number. I'm considering contacting Visa. Pl - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Takumar normal lens build quality: Does the SMC-K mesaure up?
Paul Strevetsky asks: Is the SMC 50/1.4K built as well as the best Pentax 50 or 55mm screwmount lenses? My K's have a focus feel about the same as the Takumars. And like the Takumars, if the helicoid grease is fluid enouph the focus feel is just about perfect. The best Takumars I have are a little better than the K's, but I have many Takumars; few K's. Strangely, the aperture ring of the K's is much coarser than the Takumars. The difference in feel is extreme. "The Takumar in question is a used lens, more than 25 years old. It is well built. If focuses more smoothly than any other lens I have ever used... I wonder, however, whether the Leica user was referring to a normal lens of an earlier vintage than the Super Tak SMC. Probably. He goes on to write, "It does have this wierd veiling-glare thing going on in some kinds of light that makes the highlights look almost flashed. Oh well. It ain't perfect." Doesn't sound like a description of a fully multicoated SMC. Maybe by the time the SMC came out, Pentax had begun to cut a few corners. I'm guessing it was a Super-Takumar. Correct me if wrong, but I think multicoating and super-multicoating are different things. I've always been under the impression that Super-Takumars are multicoated. Mark Rofini - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: eBay payment methods / Zenitar fisheye
i think there is a small fee with paypal when you are using a credit card that is not in US dollars.? - Original Message - From: "Frits J. Wthrich" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 7:17 AM Subject: RE: eBay payment methods / Zenitar fisheye I now registered for Billpoint, it does support buying outside of the USA, but for selling you need to be in the USA or Canada, so it is not so international as I first thought. The costs are for the seller, and depends on the price, it starts with $0.35. I am in the process of signing up with Paypal, which also supports credit card buyers. You can set up your account in the USA, UK, France, Germany, with transfers the payments of your sales into your local bank account if you wish. It's cheaper then the others: free. I've used BidPay http://www.bidpay.com/ a few times. I live in UK and most auctions are US or Canadian. The advantage is that you pay by credit card which is the easiest way of doing currency conversions. The seller gets notified direct from BidPay that a money order is on its way so they can ship the goods. It costs the buyer $5 flat for payments less that $100 or 2.25% +$5 for orders over $100. The seller pays nothing so has no reason to object to this method. I too have been watching those Zenitars - there seem to be lots of them for sale. Would be interested in your views appearing here once you've had chance to use it. Regards Peter There is a second auction for the Pentax mounted 16mm Zenitars, also at $129.99. I noticed them for C as well, starting at $169.95, and for N, starting at $174.95. It's a pity to have a camera of such a good brand, you have to pay more for your Zenitar because of that:-) I will report my findings here, I am interested in other opinions as well! Frits - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: LX rewind lever cover
At 04:57 PM 3/11/2001 -0500, PAUL STENQUIST wrote: Oops, I meant the manual wind lever. It's retained by four little screws and was heretofore covered with something. (I don't really remember what the cover looked like. That makes it hard when you're trying to find it :-) In any case, it's gone, and it's reassuring to hear you say that you believe full parts support is still in place. That's what I figured, but I needed some reinforcement. I just ordered the film advance lever and cap from Pentax USA. The good news is that they were both in stock, and the lever cost $10.86 and the cap $2.88. The bad news is that the minimum shipping charge is $8. They also only deal in prepayment by check or COD. They are not the "accessories" department from which I have ordered parts before little missing plastic covers, et al.) and are not set up like the other two groups in CO, to take credit cards. David - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: What do you shoot, and why?
On Sun, 11 Mar 2001 17:47:35 -0500 (EST), Harry Baughman wrote: i like to shoot people. I thought that was illegal in most places... :-))) Later, Gary - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: eBay payment methods / Zenitar fisheye
Paul wrote: If they $1 shows up on your visa then code should its just a part of the paypal name on the visa card statement. The $1 showed up all right but no code, only Paypal. When registering they send you an e-mail where they warn you of not calling your credit card company for getting the code. The whole thing smell fishy A company that doesn't reply to e-mails is certainly suspect. Pl - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Motor Drive MX and NiCad Pack LX...final update
On 11 Mar 2001, at 22:23, Steve Cottrell wrote: Further to my saga about re-celling a NiCad Pack LX so that I could use it with my newly aquired Motor Drive MX: the pack is now completed, and functioning great. Anyone in the UK wishing to undertake the exercise should read Rob Studdert's excellent reference at: http://www.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/lxnicdpack.html Hi Steve, I am very pleased that you found my page of use :-) I have been observing your progress and will be including the link that you posted in a future revision of the page. Thanks again. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 Fax +61-2-9554-9259 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: MZ-S First look
Hi Someone wrote: Don't get me wrong, I like most of what I've heard about the camera. Just don't want to part with that much money. That's not fair: The MZ-S is clearly an F100 competitor. A used LN F100 cost 999$. There are only few pro's et con's. If you own some Pentax/K-mount lenses, the MZ-S pricing makes sence. It would be more expensive to switch to Nikon. It will be a nice "back-up camera" for pro's who are using the digital version, Pentax 67 or 645. But it will not make anyone switch from Nikon or Canon. The digital version might! BTW, I think it's very understandable that Pentax makes this camera, not an entry into the 35mm pro market. Not an F5 or an EOS1 competitor. The MZ series is probably the largest SLR success Pentax has had since the break through of autofocus. Any sane businessman would try to follow up on this, try topping it off with a more rugged, better featured, better designed camera - still using the MZ concept. The entry into the "35mm" pro market is the digital twin. If this turns out successfully, we might see other high end 35mm cameras - film and digital - from Pentax. Untill we know, we'll try to shoot great photographs with the MZ-S as well as all the other thousinds Pentax cameras that's still working after 10, 20, 30, 40 years! Why don't we just buy it, guys - it may very well be our last (new) 35mm film camera. Heck, this one will outlast 35mm film, anyway. Jens - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: LX rewind lever cover
Well, I'll settle for that. I just want to keep my LX happy ;-) Paul "David P. Chernicoff" wrote: At 04:57 PM 3/11/2001 -0500, PAUL STENQUIST wrote: Oops, I meant the manual wind lever. It's retained by four little screws and was heretofore covered with something. (I don't really remember what the cover looked like. That makes it hard when you're trying to find it :-) In any case, it's gone, and it's reassuring to hear you say that you believe full parts support is still in place. That's what I figured, but I needed some reinforcement. I just ordered the film advance lever and cap from Pentax USA. The good news is that they were both in stock, and the lever cost $10.86 and the cap $2.88. The bad news is that the minimum shipping charge is $8. They also only deal in prepayment by check or COD. They are not the "accessories" department from which I have ordered parts before little missing plastic covers, et al.) and are not set up like the other two groups in CO, to take credit cards. David - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Pros don't use Pentax?
Well this one does: http://www.nationalgeographic.com/photography/klum/index.html Pl - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Carl Zeiss Jena lenses: Are they real K mounts?
Hi Zeiss Jena Lenses a generally very good. I use the MF lenses for my Pentacon Six. The 35mm lenses will not function like K-mounts on Pentax cameras (the ones made for Praktica). You must use them with manual aperture (just like the SMC 3.5/28mm shift lens) - no automatic stopping down when fired. Since there is no aperture-simulator-pin, the Pentax camera will only measure correctly, when stopped down to working aperture. I've tried the Flektogon 2.8/20mm. It's excellent! In my experience you could consider buying them, if you get a good bargain (maybe half of a used Pentax K-mount lens) and if you plan to use them for planned shooting - no repertage, when fast focusing is needed. (Since the DOF is very large for wideangles, focusing is not all that critical for the 20mm). At ebay the 20mm often gets too expensive and reaches the same prices as a Pentax (350-500$ - in mint condition they are collectibels). Optically I think the 20mm Zeiss lens is similar to Pentax - some say it's better, some say the f4.0 version is even sharper. I would have bought a Zeiss Jena 20mm, had I not found a "bargain" Pentax A for 295$ (I just love it, I regret not getting one 15 years ago!). An EX A2.8/20mm costs 504$ at KEH right now. I believe a new one is 749$. Best Regards Jens www.jensbladt.freeservers.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Carl Zeiss Jena lenses: Are they real K mounts?
On 12 Mar 2001, at 0:24, Jens Bladt wrote: I would have bought a Zeiss Jena 20mm, had I not found a "bargain" Pentax A for 295$ (I just love it, I regret not getting one 15 years ago!). An EX A2.8/20mm costs 504$ at KEH right now. I believe a new one is 749$. And my SMCPA28f2 closes at auction in just over two hours (along with a heap of other gear) and would be a good buy compared to the prices that you cite. See: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1219525344 Cheers, Rob Studdert (eBay ID: distudio) PO Box 701 HURSTVILLE BC NSW 1481 AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 Fax +61-2-9554-9259 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please check my current eBay auctions: http://www.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/ebay/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax SV (brochure) - nice camera :)
"You can see this on page 37 of Gerjan's book, for those of you who have it. Everyone else should buy a copy pronto. :)" I have tried Barnes and Nobel and Amazon to order this book, with no luck...any ideas about where I might find it? TIA...Bob - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax SV (brochure) - nice camera :)
On Sun, 11 Mar 2001, Bob Poe wrote: "You can see this on page 37 of Gerjan's book, for those of you who have it. Everyone else should buy a copy pronto. :)" I have tried Barnes and Nobel and Amazon to order this book, with no luck...any ideas about where I might find it? TIA...Bob Hi, Bob. It's at Amazon. Try: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/907653702X/o/ qid=984354984/sr=8-1/ref=aps_sr_b_1_1/102-0754547-1220910 with all of that cut and pasted to one line of unbroken text. If that doesn't work, run a search for "gerjan pentax" and it will come up. chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Self-timer on Super Program
Can someone tell me if there's a trick to using the self-timer on the Super Program? I've followed the instructions in the manual but it seems to trip the shutter immediately. It could be because the contact under the self-timer switch is dirty. This is not uncommon. Mine had this problem before. regards, Alan Chan _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Pros don't use Pentax?
I liked the pictures but didn't see any mention of Pentax. Maybe I just missed it. Len --- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Pl Jensen Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2001 5:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Pros don't use Pentax? Well this one does: http://www.nationalgeographic.com/photography/klum/index.html Pl - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax SV (brochure) - nice camera :)
Thanks for the info, Chris. Only trouble is, even though they show it in their inventory, they don't "actually" stock it...only in their "virtual" stock does it exist. It took two weeks to discover this fact. They would not backorder it either. I guess I need to do a new search and try calling an actual person to verify the tranaction. Cheers, Bob --- Chris Brogden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 11 Mar 2001, Bob Poe wrote: "You can see this on page 37 of Gerjan's book, for those of you who have it. Everyone else should buy a copy pronto. :)" I have tried Barnes and Nobel and Amazon to order this book, with no luck...any ideas about where I might find it? TIA...Bob Hi, Bob. It's at Amazon. Try: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/907653702X/o/ qid=984354984/sr=8-1/ref=aps_sr_b_1_1/102-0754547-1220910 with all of that cut and pasted to one line of unbroken text. If that doesn't work, run a search for "gerjan pentax" and it will come up. chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Asahiflex part question
Well, I just broke the tiny window of glass of the front of the attached finder for my Asahiflex. :( This is the part that's on the upper right of the camera when viewed from the front. It's in three pieces, which I have. Is there a glue around which will cement these pieces with minimal fogging of the glass? I don't care if it fogs it a bit, as long as it can hold these small pieces of glass relatively firmly. Or does anyone have this piece lying around as a spare? I know this is a long shot, but if anyone has this piece or knows of a repair shop that does, please let me know. In a worst-case scenario I can probably tape it in with scotch tape, but I'd rather not. Thanks! chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Pros don't use Pentax?
If you look into the insights page, it says he got started with his dad's Pentax. No mention if he still uses Pentax. Todd At 06:04 PM 3/11/01 -0600, you wrote: I liked the pictures but didn't see any mention of Pentax. Maybe I just missed it. Len --- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Pl Jensen Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2001 5:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Pros don't use Pentax? Well this one does: http://www.nationalgeographic.com/photography/klum/index.html Pl - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax SV (brochure) - nice camera :)
On Sun, 11 Mar 2001, Bob Poe wrote: Thanks for the info, Chris. Only trouble is, even though they show it in their inventory, they don't "actually" stock it...only in their "virtual" stock does it exist. It took two weeks to discover this fact. They would not backorder it either. I guess I need to do a new search and try calling an actual person to verify the tranaction. That's odd. I ordered mine on January 22, and it arrived on February 14 through surface shipping. So I'm assuming that they had it in stock then. Wonder if I took their last copy. :) And what do you mean, they won't backorder it? You mean that they won't order a copy from the publisher for you??? Isn't that their job? chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Asahiflex part question
The logical choice for this would be crazy glue, I suspect. As long as you gave it a few days to degass, it wouldn't be a problem with fogging other stuff that is near the camera. William Robb - Original Message - From: "Chris Brogden" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: March 11, 2001 6:23 PM Subject: Asahiflex part question Well, I just broke the tiny window of glass of the front of the attached finder for my Asahiflex. :( This is the part that's on the upper right of the camera when viewed from the front. It's in three pieces, which I have. Is there a glue around which will cement these pieces with minimal fogging of the glass? I don't care if it fogs it a bit, as long as it can hold these small pieces of glass relatively firmly. Or does anyone have this piece lying around as a spare? I know this is a long shot, but if anyone has this piece or knows of a repair shop that does, please let me know. In a worst-case scenario I can probably tape it in with scotch tape, but I'd rather not. Thanks! chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
'Bye for now
PDML friends, I will be unsubscribing tomorrow for a few months, to work on a project. Thanks for the good company and the enjoyable photo talk. Be nice to each other while I'm gone, willya? You can pile on when I get back. s Bye, --Mike J. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Takumar normal lens build quality: Does the SMC-K mesaure up?
Paul F. S. wrote: "The Takumar in question is a used lens, more than 25 years old. It is well built. If focuses more smoothly than any other lens I have ever used, including any Leica or Zeiss lens. It has spherical surfaces where other 50/1.4's have flat surfaces; it was among the first lenses on the market with multicoating. ... Every surface is fully multicoated, not often the case on many lenses today. ... Uh, that would be me who wrote that. And we all know I'm fulla shit. --Mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 'Bye for now
On Sun, 11 Mar 2001, Mike Johnston wrote: PDML friends, I will be unsubscribing tomorrow for a few months, to work on a project. Thanks for the good company and the enjoyable photo talk. Be nice to each other while I'm gone, willya? You can pile on when I get back. s What's the project, Mike? Care to share? And good luck... we'll miss ya. chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S First look
Jens Bladt wrote: Why don't we just buy it, guys - it may very well be our last (new) 35mm film camera. Heck, this one will outlast 35mm film, anyway. Mine is on order... Local Pentax rep says delivery scheduled for June, but could run into September. Sigh!!! Cheers, Mike. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 'Bye for now
Have fun, Mike. See ya when you get back. Doug At 6:48 PM -06003/11/01, Mike Johnston caused thus to appear: PDML friends, I will be unsubscribing tomorrow for a few months, to work on a project. Thanks for the good company and the enjoyable photo talk. Be nice to each other while I'm gone, willya? You can pile on when I get back. s Bye, --Mike J. -- Douglas Forrest Brewer Ashwood Lake Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.alphoto.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 'Bye for now
On Sun, 11 Mar 2001, Mike Johnston wrote: PDML friends, I will be unsubscribing tomorrow for a few months, to work on a project. Thanks for the good company and the enjoyable photo talk. Be nice to each other while I'm gone, willya? You can pile on when I get back. s Gosh, we're gonna miss you, Mike. Your knowledge and experience are a big plus around here. And, by the way, the seller ended the auction and I got the lens. Thanks for the words of enablement :-) Best, Paul - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Don't you just hate being too late on eBay?
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1221287672 $99?!?!? ARRGHHH Todd - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Ebay bargain
On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, David P. Chernicoff wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1221445625 I don't think I can lose with this purchase Wow, not bad. Do you think the seller meant to put $100? chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
