Re: C41 BW

2001-04-28 Thread GLewis4457
Thanks, i was not trying to be controversial, just trying to clear up some 
questions in my head. Thhanks again for your help.

Jerry in Houston


Screwmount Auctions Update

2001-04-28 Thread J. C. O'Connell

http://www.gate.net/~hifisapi/JCO_AUCT.HTM

About 2 days left, use link above for latest info.
Here's the item list (many are collector's mint )

Item  Start  End  Price  Title High Bidder
1231855980 Apr-20-01 Apr-30-01 17:57:26 $22.50 Asahi Pentax 28mm F3.5
Super - Takumar Lens  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (0)
1231862177 Apr-20-01 Apr-30-01 18:00:33 $49.99 Asahi Pentax 35mm F2.0
Super - Takumar Lens  anaheimgeoff (18)
1231862914 Apr-20-01 Apr-30-01 18:03:40 $30.00 Asahi Pentax 35mm F3.5
Super - Takumar Lens  chazgti (8)
1231863964 Apr-20-01 Apr-30-01 18:06:48 $79.99 Asahi Pentax 85mm F1.9
Super - Takumar Lens  anaheimgeoff (18)
1231864870 Apr-20-01 Apr-30-01 18:10:31 $79.99 Asahi Pentax 100mm F4
Bellows - Takumar Lens  No Bids Yet
1231866342 Apr-20-01 Apr-30-01 18:13:44 $51.00 Asahi Pentax 105mm F2.8
Super - Takumar Lens  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (6)
1231867902 Apr-20-01 Apr-30-01 18:19:57 $20.50 Asahi Pentax 135mm F3.5
Super - Takumar Lens  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (8)
1231868734 Apr-20-01 Apr-30-01 18:23:10 $36.00 Asahi Pentax 150mm F4 Super -
Takumar Lens  red-cactus (45)
1231869761 Apr-20-01 Apr-30-01 18:26:19 $51.00 Asahi Pentax 200mm F4 Super -
Takumar Lens  jabaru (84)
1231870784 Apr-20-01 Apr-30-01 18:29:25 $127.61 Asahi Pentax 300mm F4
Super - Takumar Lens  rleue1 (75)
1231871763 Apr-20-01 Apr-30-01 18:32:33 $34.99 Asahi Pentax Autobellows
close-up unit M42  jabaru (84)



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Re: OT Re: LX Gallery

2001-04-28 Thread James Adams


foreigners over here in the US, Marmite and Vegamite are both equally
disgusting ;-

As another foreigner (Scots), out with the Anzuk Forces in Singapore,  I got
Vegamite in my shift-rations and it was always on the breakfast and loved
the stuff on toast.
I have never cared much for marmite, it comes a poor second, yet many kids
were weaned on the stuff..
I really miss my Vegamite!
 James

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Re: Comments on FA* 28-70 F2.8?

2001-04-28 Thread Mark Erickson

Hold on a minute, guys!  Stan is asking you to help him out with his
collection of comments about Pentax lenses!  Here's your chance to end the
pain once and for all!  Get your comments into Stan's archive.  The next
time someone asks up you can just point to the archive.

--Mark

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Re: flash cord advice wanted

2001-04-28 Thread William Robb

Don't know. I paid _significantly_ less than that for mine.
William Robb
- Original Message -
From: Bob Keefer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: April 27, 2001 11:59 PM
Subject: re: flash cord advice wanted


 Well yes Bob. Thanks for asking. You need the Pentax
Three-Channel
 Infrared Transmitter amd Infrared Reciever. It will do
exactly what you
 want.
 William Robb

 For $30, right?



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Re: scanners for panoramic slides?

2001-04-28 Thread Mark Roberts

David A. Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I don't shoot the panoramas very often so maybe stitching 
multiple scans would be easier.  At least my product choices would number 
greater than one :)

Stitching together sections of the same negative should be *very* easy. Much
easier than trying to combine several different negatives into one panoramic
image.
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Re: A Wee Dram for the LX

2001-04-28 Thread Mark Roberts

 At this very moment, I'm celebrating my retirement
 with some Killian's Iris Red.

Funny, I usually don't get red eyes until the morning after a night of
drinking...
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Re: OT abreviations used on this list

2001-04-28 Thread Mark Roberts

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

In a message dated 4/28/2001 7:19:31 AM US Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  I'm not keeping up very effectively today.  Has anyone posted
   The Pirate Alphabet yet?  It's mostly vowels:
  
   Eh?   (A)
   Aye!  (I)
   Oooh! (O)
   You!  (U)
  
  

And Wye not Wye? (only sometimes)

Not to mention W if you're a Welsh pirate ;-)
(As was one of the most famous pirates of all time.)
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Re: Comments on FA* 28-70 F2.8?

2001-04-28 Thread Pål Jensen

Lasse wrote:

 Me:
 Of what relevance to the list and it's members is it that you find it boring to 
repeat information on the FA* 28-70/2.8 Pentax lens? If you don't feel like 
responding, just don't.
 (The implication of your answer is that you think the poster should have refrained 
for asking his question just because you would be bored by responding to it.)
 You are being rudely unfriendly to include such an uncalled for comment to another 
list member's perfectly legitimate and on topic question.


I pointed to the archieve and said why I did so. The fact is that numerous members of 
this forum don't like dead honest opinions on lenses if they are not positive. I've 
been flamed for posting lens opinions even if the flamer have never used the lens in 
question. I've been flamed for repeatedly posting the same opinion again because 
people ask. As recent as a couple of weeks ago someone was very unhappy because I 
called the A 35/2.8 mediocre although it is my honest opinion. True, I usually do not 
care at all that some people react negatively. However, since the FA* 28-70/2.8 have 
so many problems in my experience I takes a hell of a lot of time to write it down. By 
refering to the recent archieve was a way to try to make everybody happy. Whats more, 
I'm not sure if I like the idea of having opinions permanently on a web page.
Anyway, since people seem to want it and it suddenly occured to me that I could search 
my own out box to find it here it is (BTW it was posted a month ago under the heading: 
Thoughts on the FA* 28-70mm Zoom):


REPLY:
In my opinion (I know many would disagree and have had no problems) this is the one 
Pentax lens that should never have been made. Its very delicate lens and quality of 
construction is compromised. This is for two reasons: 1) Power zoom and 2) auto focus. 
Normally, these feature shouldn't be disastrous in themselves but some smart bean 
counter at Pentax figured out that they wouldn't cost inner focusing on this lens. As 
a result, focusing is done by moving the whole front tube of the lens. Because theres 
so much to move, the front lens tube is made of plastic to save weight. This means 
also plastic filter thread. It also means a rotating front element and filter thread 
something thats a pain in the ass when using Cokin filter system and polarizers. It 
also means that the power zoom has to move all elements and lens tubes something in 
most cases don't manage if not the lens is pointed downwards and thereby get help from 
gravity. Many samples (most?) are unable to power zoom past!
 the 35mm setting. 
My lens in particular had constant recurring problems; 1) the zoom scale window was 
loose (of course). 2) The button for powerzoom got stucked in the in position. This 
needed to be repared (several times - I believe three or four - actually the lens 
needs to be sent to Belgium because most Pentax centers can't repair it, or more 
correctly; can't open it. Its too complicated). 3) The lens refused to stop down 
atomatically during exposure. 4) Power zoom may stop completely after using it a few 
times. Then it worked again after the lens rested for about one hour (actually this 
freak sympthom was disbelieved by the repairman. After he managed to induce the same 
behaviour after testing it, he was completely astonished - solution to this mystery 
below). These problems were never fixed. That is, they were fixed but keept on comping 
back. 


Alexander:
Or the ultimate satisfaction question: If someone stole the lens would 
you purchase another one?


REPLY:
Are you Joking. After two years I throw mine litterally in the garbage. 

[Before throwing it away I dissasembled it. I finally found out why they (Belgium) 
never where able to fix it. It was designed in a way that auto stopdown and power zoom 
couldn't work simultaneously. You have to choose one or the other. I found out that 
the power zoom contacts touched the aperture mechanism so that it prevented the lens 
to stop down by the spring action. If you bent the power zoom contacts away from the 
aperture mechanism then they wouldn't couple to the power zoom contacts on the lens 
mount then giving no electricity to the lens for power zoom.]

I'm sure some people are happy with it. However, you wanted real field experience; 
here is mine. Oh..its great optically...

 



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Re: FA* 28-70 f=2.8

2001-04-28 Thread Pål Jensen

Cameron wrote:

and although it is internal focussing, 


The lens is NOT internal focusing

Pål

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Re: flash cord advice wanted

2001-04-28 Thread Tom Rittenhouse

I believe Wein makes a gizmo that fits into the hot shoe and
takes a pc cord, but also isolates the strobes from the
camera. Not sure of the price.
Should be cheaper than IR slaves, or radio slaves.
--Tom


Bob Keefer wrote:
 
 Hi all:
 
 I do a fair amount of studio work with an old set of Speedotron lights,
 fired off a conventional PC cord.
 
 Here's the problem:
 
 My PZ-20 has no PC socket. I wouldn't use it anyway as I am afraid of frying
 the circuitry with the studio lights. I have used the pop-up flash to fire a
 Wein peanut slave attached to the Speedotron, but this has been unreliable,
 especially if the pop-up is masked enough to keep it from influencing the
 photo (I know you can use the pop-up  for fill. I don't want to.)
 
 My LX works fine with the PC cord but has two drawbacks: (1) I lose
 autofocus, which I rather like as my eyes are having trouble nailing focus
 under the modeling lights, and (2) the PC cord tends to slip out of the
 socket, unless I rubber-band it in, which is annoyingly untidy and not all
 that reliable, either.
 
 What I'd love, of course, is a reliable wireless connection to the PZ-20.
 Failing that, I'd be happy with a safe, hard connection to the PZ-20. And
 all for about $30, say.
 
 Anyone make an isolator that hooks up to the shoe mount and has a built-in
 PC cord dangling out of it?
 
 Any other ideas?


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Re: Film improvement question (rhetorical)

2001-04-28 Thread Gary J Sibio

At 08:19 PM 4/27/01 -0700, you wrote:
I've yet to see any ISO 100 film approach the results I used to get with
Ektar 25 and Royal Gold 25.  IMHO.  What you suggest still has another
decade of improvement to go at the current pace before modern ISO 100 film
is as good as RG25.

Until recently I shot nothing but slide film. By the time I started 
experimenting with color negative film the two you mentioned had already 
been pulled off the market. Therefore, the only thing I know about them is 
that I've never heard anyone say anything bad about them. So maybe there is 
no ISO 100 (Fuji Superia Reala) film that is their equal. I don't know. 
However, I just got back a role yesterday with some pictures of my cat and 
the prints were incredibly sharp.

Now maybe you're making enlargements of such size that you need finer grain 
(assuming you're right about ISO 25 film). In that case I'd make the jump 
to medium format.

Let's face it, if the film companies drop a film it's either because no one 
was buying it or it has become redundant. I've been in photography long 
enough to hear people bemoan the fact that such and such a film is no 
longer. The interesting thing is that people continue to turn out 
incredible images. The PUG serves witness to that fact.

Lastly I would like to challenge your prophetic abilities. g In 10 years 
I think we'll be seeing digital cameras that are of the quality of 
yesterday's ultra-fine grain films. We'll also see even better emulsions 
(with higher speeds) and better lenses.


Pax et bonum,
Gary J. Sibio, SFO

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Re: Film improvement question (rhetorical)

2001-04-28 Thread Gary J Sibio

At 09:07 PM 4/27/01 -0700, you wrote:
Sure, there are lots of ways of
limiting DOF - but not every way is
appropriate or ideal for every situation.
Nothing wrong with a good quality ND filter.

By removing two stops of film speed
flexibility and creativity is
reduced. Ultra fine grain and speed is not necessarily better
than
ultra fine grain and less speed. It's just different. The
idea
that it's better is ludicrous. It's just
different.
Well, apparently a lot of people believe that faster is better - all
other things being equal - because so few of them bought ISO 25 film that
it wasn't worth it for the manufacturers to continue it.



Initial Thoughts on the FA* 28-70mm Zoom

2001-04-28 Thread Grigolia

 I've only had the FA* 28-70mm zoom for a few weeks but I love it.  (I'm 
the list member that checked out tv's zoom.)
 If you like compact Pentax 35mm lenses this zoom might seem heavy at 
first.  But as I've used the Pentax 67 II the lens seemed light.  The lens 
balances perfectly on the PZ-1p so after a few rolls you shouldn't notice the 
weight.  And the build quality is superior to my 43mm 'Limited' lens.
 I never use either the auto focus or auto zoom capabilities.  (Ok, I 
admit it, I'm a manual snob.)  Operating the lens manually is quick and easy 
even in low light.
 The negatives are sharp and crisp.  8x10 prints are not quite as sharp 
as prints made from my FA* 24mm prime lens, but are sharper than any zoom 
I've tried.
 For general photography this zoom will be my lens of choice.  If I have 
the time and desire for a fine print I'll switch to my FA* prime lenses  a 
sturdy tripod!
 Hope this proves helpful!
Alexander Grigolia
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Re: Comments on FA* 28-70 F2.8?

2001-04-28 Thread Stan Halpin

Thank you Pål. Your positive and negative opinions are valued by this
community. Your perspective and experience is not always consistent with
others' experience, which leads to good discussion and the opportunity for
some to rethink their implicit assumptions.

Stan

 From: Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Comments on  FA* 28-70 F2.8?
  snip
 I pointed to the archieve and said why I did so. The fact is that numerous
 members of this forum don't like dead honest opinions on lenses if they are
 not positive. I've been flamed for posting lens opinions even if the flamer
  snip
 Anyway, since people seem to want it and it suddenly occured to me that I
 could search my own out box to find it here it is (BTW it was posted a month
 ago under the heading: Thoughts on the FA* 28-70mm Zoom):
 
 
 REPLY:
 In my opinion (I know many would disagree and have had no problems) this is
 the one Pentax lens that should never have been made. Its very delicate lens
 and quality of construction is compromised. This is for two reasons: 1) Power
 zoom and 2) auto focus. Normally, these feature shouldn't be disastrous in
   snip

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Re: flash cord advice wanted

2001-04-28 Thread Angel

Hi Bob:
I use my PZ1p ( with the PC cord adaptor attached to the hot shoe)  with 
a White Lightning stobe set and a  radioslave from quantum.  You can 
also try the new radio slaves from WL but I think you will be better 
with the Quantums.  I have had no problems with the quantums.  I use a 
transmiter on the camera and a single receiver in one of the White 
Lightning strobes ( the others come fitted with a slave  sensor).  I 
bought the radio slaves from BH,sometimes  they are on sale.  But you 
can also try ebay, where there are always some listed.  Also there is a 
special high sensitivity slave unit .  It uses a 9volt baterry inside 
it, and I can  assure you that it will work with any small  appearance 
of a flash .  I have used it in full sun without any problems at all. I  
do not remember if I bought it from BH or Adorama, but one of them has 
it, just describe it as having a 9volt battery and been a high 
sensitivity they will help you.  The cost of it is aroung 70 dollars  I 
think.  I hope this helps you.

Angel Ramos
Arecibo, Puerto Rico


Bob Keefer wrote:

 
 Hi all:
 
 I do a fair amount of studio work with an old set of Speedotron lights,
 fired off a conventional PC cord.
 
 Here's the problem:
 
 My PZ-20 has no PC socket. I wouldn't use it anyway as I am afraid of frying
 the circuitry with the studio lights. I have used the pop-up flash to fire a
 Wein peanut slave attached to the Speedotron, but this has been unreliable,
 especially if the pop-up is masked enough to keep it from influencing the
 photo (I know you can use the pop-up  for fill. I don't want to.)
 
 My LX works fine with the PC cord but has two drawbacks: (1) I lose
 autofocus, which I rather like as my eyes are having trouble nailing focus
 under the modeling lights, and (2) the PC cord tends to slip out of the
 socket, unless I rubber-band it in, which is annoyingly untidy and not all
 that reliable, either.
 
 What I'd love, of course, is a reliable wireless connection to the PZ-20.
 Failing that, I'd be happy with a safe, hard connection to the PZ-20. And
 all for about $30, say.
 
 Anyone make an isolator that hooks up to the shoe mount and has a built-in
 PC cord dangling out of it?
 
 Any other ideas?
 
 Thanks for your help.
 
 Bob
 
 
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[FW: Pentax F4 Macro-Zoom 70-200 lens]

2001-04-28 Thread Todd Stanley


Spotted in rec.photo.marketplace.35m
http://groups.google.com/groups?oi=djqas_ugroup=rec.photo.marketplace

Todd



Subject: 
 Pentax F4 Macro-Zoom 70-200 lens FS
Date: 
 Tue, 24 Apr 2001 15:21:38 GMT
   From: 
 Huggy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Organization: 
 Excite@Home - The Leader in Broadband http://home.com/faster
 Newsgroups: 
 rec.photo.marketplace.35mm, rec.photo.marketplace




The fabulous Takumar 70-200mm macro zoom lens for Pentax K-mount cameras is
for sale. $125 firm. If the passed sticker hadn't been removed five years
ago, you would not be able to prove this lens isn't brand new.

Just sold the K-1000 body with 50mm lens on Ebay. Now selling off the
remaining components of the system. (Which was used by my wife for about a
month before retiring to a closet. The camera...not Sally!)
See it at www.pixsnap.com/takzoom.jpg

There are a lot of zooms out there, mostly plastic-bodied 70-210s with
F4-5.6 lenses. This is the all-metal pride of  Asahi Optical delivering F4
throughout the full range. Front and back caps are included. Shipping is
extra. No scratches, no dust, no dings, no fungus.

Also for sale: a Soligor 2X tele-converter with case and caps ($35). A
Pentax 160Sa Program flash($28). A Pentax cushioned bag that can hold a
body, two lenses and a flash($14). The Ebay auction (now concluded) carried
pictures of the full system. All are in the same mint condition as the zoom
lens.
You can view them at
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1230262866

If you reply by email, please be sure to delete the DETETE




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[FW: Pentax 67 500/5.6 - LNIB]

2001-04-28 Thread Todd Stanley


Spotted in rec.photo.marketplace
http://groups.google.com/groups?oi=djqas_ugroup=rec.photo.marketplace

Todd



Subject: 
 FS: Pentax 67 500/5.6 - LNIB
Date: 
 Tue, 24 Apr 2001 08:02:31 -0700
   From: 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ricm)
 Organization: 
 oronet, Penn Valley, C
 Newsgroups: 
 rec.photo.marketplace




P67 500/5.6 - latest rubber focusing ring

Includes Hoya 95mm UV, caps, hard case and box. Also a
custom travel bag.

Mint in box.

$1595 plus shippng

Need Mint P67-SMC 90/2.8, 45/4 or FA 645 lenses

Rick Murai


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PUG Themes

2001-04-28 Thread William Robb

The recent bruahua regarding exclusionary gallery themes has
caused me to take another look at the upcoming themes. Please
have a look at:
http://pug.komkon.org/general/themes.html
for information regarding this page update.
Thanks
William Robb

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Re: Film improvement question (rhetorical)

2001-04-28 Thread William Johnson

In regard of the demise of slow films you wrote;

Nothing wrong with a good quality ND filter.

except for viewing, focusing, and composing, of
course.

William in Utah.

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Re: C41 BW

2001-04-28 Thread John Edwin Mason

Also, the grain of chromogenic looks like color
film...it reminds me of
looking at a color scan that's been desaturated,
rather than a b+w print.

I agree.  It's odd to see a BW print that doesn't
have the kind of grain structure that we've come to
expect.

I like grain.  When I shoot with, say, Tri-X, grain is
a vital part of the image that I have in mind when I
press the shutter.

T400CN, the only chromogenic that I've used
extensively, is nearly grainless at the same time that
it lacks sharpness.

Not the film to use if you're going for the HC-B or
Salgado look, but wonderful for portraits.

On the other hand, it's a fine portrait film.  Lack of
sharpness generally doesn't hurt here.  And, as
somebody mentioned, it produces luminous skin tones
(including African-American).

It's also damned versatile.  Rate it at 200 or 400 or
800, have it processed normally, and get back negative
with all the shadow and highlight detail you can ask
for.

As for archivability...  Is it any different from
color print film?

Best, John


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Charlottesville, Virginia
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RE: Good bye LX...

2001-04-28 Thread Matamoros, Cesar A.

Steve,

I had no blurring, just difficulty with lighting.  It seems the wine
(Chestnut Hill 1995 Zinfandel California Old Vines Cuvée) just made me lazy
to not want to move from the corner of the couch.

I will see about getting the shots up next week.  I will be going to
a horse show tonight and a wine festival tomorrow.  I will need the work
week just to catch upg

I will be taking the digital camera with me as a sidekick to the LX.
I seem to enjoy carrying the LX even if I don't take any pictures.

Cheers,

César Matamoros II
Panama City, Florida


 -Original Message-
 From: Steve Larson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 7:44 PM
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Re: Good bye LX...
 
 Cesar, I did, and it was red wine also. I saved the vintage March, and
 broke
 out some 1998 Merlot. When you get those digital pics on the net, let us
 know. Hope you were using a tripod, since your bottle of wine was
 emptiedg.
 Steve Larson
 Redondo Beach, California
 - Original Message -
 From: Matamoros, Cesar A. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 8:27 AM
 Subject: RE: Good bye LX...
 
 
  Steve,
 
  I hope you did.  Funny, I opened up a bottle of red wine - I have to
  look at the particular one I grabbed from my pantry 'cellar' and began
 the
  toasting.
 
  I pulled out two of my LXen, the third one is getting the metering
  fixed, and the accessories I have and began to take some pictures with
 my
  digital camera.  I hope to put some of the images on a site somewhere.
 It
  won't be pretty but it will show my original beat up yet pretty LX well.
 
  When it was all said and done, the bottle was empty - how did that
  happen?  Oh well, I just read the guidlines for the LX Gallery how
  appropriate that this may my first ever posting of an image to the PDML.
  What a great idea to commemorate the 'passing'.
 
  César Matamoros II
  Panama City, Florida
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Steve Larson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 8:25 PM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: Good bye LX...
  
May I join you guys in a toast? I knew the day would come, but I
   did not think it would be so soon.  What a camera.
   Steve Larson
   Redondo Beach, California
   - Original Message -
   From: Matamoros, Cesar A. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 9:31 AM
   Subject: RE: Good bye LX...
  
  
Hey Shel,
   
We can do a 'synchronicity' variation and do a mutual toasting to
the LX.
   
Strange idea, but I just got out of a mission debriefing and the
mind just tends to wonder...
   
César
   
 -Original Message-
 From: Shel Belinkoff [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 10:40 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Good bye LX...

 Matamoros, Cesar A. wrote:
 
  I never imagined the day
  when it would not be produced.
 
  I think I will go home tonight and
  take them out and toast to their years
  of good service.

 I like that idea.  I'll join you in a toast.

 --
 Shel Belinkoff
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 
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Re: C41 BW

2001-04-28 Thread tom

John Edwin Mason wrote:
 
 As for archivability...  Is it any different from
 color print film?
 

This is exactly the question that was asked by someone (I want to say it
was Albano, but I'm not sure) on this forum some time ago.

You would think it would be the case that since it's basically just
color film that shows gray tones that it would last as long as regular
color film, or maybe even longer since it might have less 'stuff' in it
to break down. Mike Johnston (former editor of darkroom techniques) was
on the list at that time and said he thought it wasn't the case - he's
seen XP-1 negs shot in the 80's that have shifted.

I also talked to my lab people about it, and they've seen shifted negs. 

Maybe these were isolated cases - could be they were processed in
mini-labs with old fix, or stored improperly. Could be a lot of things,
but until someone shows me some evidence that me these negs will last
least 50 years, I won't trust chromogenics. 

I agree that these films can have a nice appearance, and work great in
some situations.

tv
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Re: Comments on FA* 28-70 F2.8?

2001-04-28 Thread Lasse Karlsson

Pål wrote:
The fact is that numerous members of this forum don't like dead honest opinions on 
lenses if they are not positive.

Me:
Yes, it seems that some people don't, but sometimes they simply do not agree, or the 
may not have done as thorough evaluations as you have. I do however think that in 
general your opinions on lenses are much appreciated and highly valued, particularly 
since you usually explain the basis for your opinions very well (often from carefully 
performed pratical shooting, which resolution tests in magazines simply do not cover) .

Pål:
I've been flamed for posting lens opinions even if the flamer have never used the lens 
in question. I've been flamed for repeatedly posting the same opinion again because 
people ask.

Me:
Yes, it is true that you have received negative reactions that you did not deserve. 
(In case you have felt lack of support, it may be because of your.. shall we say 
geological nature of your mind, in that you haven't seemed much personally affected 
by many of the flames.)

Pål:
As recent as a couple of weeks ago someone was very unhappy because I called the A 
35/2.8 mediocre although it is my honest opinion.

Me:
My (not particularly vivid) recollection of that particular exchange is one of a 
fruitful semantic discussion of what was a reasonable judgement of that lens, based on 
the poster's own experience of it (and not that the poster objected to you putting 
forward your (negative) opinion).
(Personally I concluded that mediocre by your standards may equal 
average/acceptable by someone else's, or that there was a difference in testing 
methods (or even that the two individual lenses may have varied in quality).)

Pål:
True, I usually do not care at all that some people react negatively. However, since 
the FA* 28-70/2.8 have so many problems in my experience I takes a hell of a lot of 
time to write it down.

Me:
I think most of us can appreciate this problem. Although I haven't had a great burden 
of extensive knowledge to share I have occasionally too not responded to a question 
because I may have been bored by an issue.
(I just thought unfair to sort of throw this particular argument into the face of 
Stan, who was simply - and in my opinion for a very good cause - asking for opinions 
that in the end will be very useful to the Pentax community, just as his web site of 
opinions on Pentax lenses already have been for a long time.)

Anyway, I agree with what Stan said in a recent message about the value of your 
opinions, even if...or maybe particularly because...they are critical, in both senses 
of the word. Singing only choirs of Hallellujah may be pleasant, but not 
particularly useful.

Nice of you to take the trouble to post your response regarding the lens,
Lasse

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Re: Comments on FA* 28-70 F2.8?

2001-04-28 Thread Harry Baughman

i wonder if you could go thru your lens comments and see if you can come
up with any thing about the old f model 35-135 f3.5-4.5 pentax zoom .




I am working on an update to my collection of comments about Pentax lenses.
I just came across this note I received a few weeks ago:

Your site contains some really nice useful summaries.
I recently noticed one problem, though.  I went to look
up the FA* 28-70 F2.8 recently.  Your site had a number
of older reviews that were quite positive.  Recent
chit-chat on the mailing list about that particular
lens has been quite negative.  An update might help
prevent some people (like me) from making mistaken purchases...

I went through the mail I had filed from recent discussions, and also
went back into recent archives, but found nothing about this lens, either
positive or negative. Maybe buried in one of the many OT threads . . .?

So, does anybody have anything negative to say about this lens, for the
record? I have no personal experience with it myself.

Stan

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Re: A New Screen for a New LX

2001-04-28 Thread Tom Ivar Helbekkmo

Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 May I suggest that other LX owners get these new screens while you
 can.

I'll second that.  I played around with my K24/2.8 and K85/1.8 before
and after replacing the SC-21 with an SC-69, and the difference was
very pleasant.  I'd love to have one of these in my MX, as well.  Wish
I'd bought another one -- recalibrating the MX shouldn't be a big deal.

-tih
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Re: Spotmatic SPII SE

2001-04-28 Thread Ken Archer

The only camera I had to compare it to was a SP500.  I put a
Super-Takumar f1.8 55mm on each of them to minimize any differences. The
split-image model seems to have more contrast.  I am not sure it is any
brighter, but because of the difference in contrast it seems easier to
focus.  With the addition of the split-image, it is much easier to
focus.

Steve Larson wrote:
 
 Hi Ken,
  The screen that was installed, does it seem brighter?
 Steve Larson
 Redondo Beach, California
 - Original Message -
 From: Ken Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 8:36 PM
 Subject: Spotmatic SPII SE
 
  I know there are a few of us old geezers on the list that have a problem
  with focusing, especially on a Spottie.  I had just about made the
  decision to forgo all my screwmount lens because I couldn't focus the
  camera.  I had already traded in my K1000 for a K1000 SE and picked up a
  couple of Me Supers because of the split-image viewfinder.
 
  I had seen offers on ebay to change out the focus screens on a K1000 to
  a split-image.  Then, lo and behold, Camera Repair Service of Pittsburg,
  PA, came out with the same thing for a Spotmatic.  I had a Spotmatic
  SPII I picked up on ebay that, after selling off the case and strap,
  cost me a total of $38.00.  For an additional $59.00, I got a CLA and a
  split-image viewfinder and I can see again.
 
  One caveat.  Mark Roberts had express disappointment over a repair
  manual that he bought from Camera Repair Service and I saw others in
  their feedback with the same view toward their manuals.  But I can tell
  you they did a first-rate CLA on my camera and that split-image
  viewfinder has put me back into the screwmount fold.
 
  For what it's worth, I am a happy camper again.
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Re: Gallery Themes

2001-04-28 Thread Dave Maki

Shel Belinkoff wrote:
snip 
 I agree that if we were to define the gallery as you indicate, it
 might appear to be more democratic, but I suspect that the number of
 submissions wouldn't increase by any noticeable degree.
snip again

I haven't submitted a picture to PUG yet.  I only have about 10 shots
that I thought were good enough to scan and use as wallpaper on my own
computer.  Only 2 of those might be worth the cost of enlarging and
framing.  I haven't been excluded because of the Gallery Themes, I've
been excluded because of a lack of talent and courage.  
PUG is a as much a gallery for viewing as it is for displaying.  I am
getting a great education from viewing the PUG shots that have been
submitted, and from the follow-up comments.  My range of pictures is
getting broader, I am trying new things, and my confidence in my own
pictures is growing.  Sometime soon I will risk submitting a picture and
I am sure I will find a month that fits.
I would actually like to see a gallery of pictures shot with lenses
shorter than 28mm. This would help me decide if this is just a novelty
lens area or if it has value. 

-- 
Dave Maki

Calgary, Alberta
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Re: PUG Themes

2001-04-28 Thread William Robb

Igor suggested that theme. I am afraid you will just have to
suck it up a bit.
Or perhaps Weather, or not?
William Robb
- Original Message -
From: Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: April 28, 2001 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: PUG Themes


 The October 2002 gallery theme Bad Weather is exclusionary
and unfair to
 Southern California residents as we are seldom plummeted with
hydro meteors,
 blown by atmospheric vortexes or subject to other
meteorological maladies
 during this time of year.

 Har!

 Regards,
 Bob...


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Ultrasonic motors crap?

2001-04-28 Thread Pål Jensen

According to Canon the ultrasonic motors used in their lenses have a lifespan of less 
than 20 hours due to friction wear and tear. This according to Nikkei Industrial 
daily. (I read it on photo.net)

Pål

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LX and FP flash sync

2001-04-28 Thread Gerald F. Cermak

I don't have an LX manual (note to self: call Pentax USA and order one).
Does anyone know if the LX, when firing a flash bulb using the FP jack, will
auto-exposure since it meters off the film?  I know flash bulb durations are
fixed around 20-50mS (1/50-1/20s) with a specific delay requiring
pre-firing.  The shutter/meter can respond quicker than that duration, so it
seems possible the LX can auto-expose the flash duration and cut off the
light by closing the shutter when there is enough.  But does it really do
that in practice?  I'd hate to waste a pile of flashbulbs running
experiments.

Thanks,
Gerald


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My trip report to Camera Show in Puyallup, WA

2001-04-28 Thread Gerald F. Cermak

I just got back from the annual PSPCS camera show in Puyallup.  About the
same as last year, though less Pentax gear than I remember.  I was shopping
for odds and ends (lens caps and lens cases), and limited myself to cash on
hand without credit (about $200).

I picked up a couple of interesting items: a K2DMD brassed and in need of a
CLA for $65, and a perfectly good MV1 with a mint M50/2.0 for $35.  The
K2DMD doesn't have its winder MD (anyone have one for sale or know where I
can find one?).

The MV1, on the other hand, is a great little SLR.  With the M50/2 or an
M35/2, it's only slightly larger than my T4, but much more fun.  Who cares
what the shutter speed is, as long as the light is green, and I have the
aperture I want.  :)  It evens uses a winder MEII from my ME Super (unlike
the ubiquitous MV).  My other find was a vivitar 3x M42 tc.

After getting home, I dragged out my 500 tele, hooked up the 3x, k-m42, and
the MV1, and shot most of a roll this afternoon of airplanes on final
approach to SeaTac and birds in tree tops.  At 1500mm and f/13.5, I was
getting the 747s to fill the frame wing tip to wing tip, and based on where
the red meter light came on (above 1/1000s), I was shooting around 1/500 to
1/1000 with the lens set to f/5.6 or f/8 (f/16.8 or f/24 effective) with
Supra 400.  I thought about adding my 2x too, but figured I couldn't see to
focus at that point (3000mm f/27).

Last interesting item I got was a pair of LX strap connectors.  These are
hard to find, and 2 of the 3 LXs for sale in the place had them.  I finally
talked one of the vendors out of his for $25.

I had thought with the recession America is in, that there'd be more deals,
but instead it was a lot of picked over antiques from previous years, and
very little good Pentax glass (rather disappointing in that respect).  There
must be more users/collectors of Pentax than a couple of years ago.

Cheers,
Gerald

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Re: Vivitar Flashes

2001-04-28 Thread Gerald F. Cermak

Whenever the question of high voltage older flashes comes up, I always like
sharing this story:

Once while photographing my high school bonfire in the rain with an SPII and
Vivitar 2500 Thyristor flash, I got halfway through the roll, a little
soggy, and suddenly I got a nasty jolt of electricity when I snapped the
shutter - strong enough to make me drop the camera.  Later I measured the
trigger voltage on the flash at 40V.  Ouch!

Cheers,
Gerald

- Original Message -
From: Len Paris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 3:18 PM
Subject: RE: Vivitar Flashes


 Nope, not me. But I know better than to use old flash units with
 modern electronic cameras without either testing them or using a
 Wein flash isolator.  There are some monolights that will do a
 job on your electronic cameras too.  If you think it's just an
 urban legend, and you've never measured the trigger voltage on
 an old electronic flash unit, you could be in for an unpleasant
 surprise in the future.

 Len
 ---


  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
  Lewis, Gerald
  Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 3:02 PM
  To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
  Subject: RE: Vivitar Flashes
 
 
  I know that this was written up in Pop Photo a
  coupole of years ago, but has
  anyone ever really had their IC fried using an older
  strobe?  Is the any
  VERIFIABLE instance of this happening?  Last I read
  about it was that it was
  an urban legend, The phenomenon is real, but that the
  supposed effect has
  never been seen and that it is just the paranoid who
  are afraid of it.
 
  Jerry in Houston

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OT: Luminous skin tones, Was C41 BW

2001-04-28 Thread John Edwin Mason


I was singing the praises of Kodak's T400CN.  Great
portrait film.  Luminous skin tones.  Incredible
latitude.  Etc.

I've just scanned an 8x10 print that I hope
illustrates the point about skin tones.  (Printed on
Ilford multigrade IV RC glossy Portfolio, using 3 1/2
filter.) 

It's a 40k .jpg file.  I'll send it out to anyone
who's interested.

The scan probably isn't the best.  I'm new to anything
having to do with photos and computers.  I've only
recently gotten my hands on an oldish HP scanner.  My
submission to May's PUG gallery was one of my first
attempts.  This portrait is about my tenth.

Cheers, John (who still prefers Tri-X, most of the
time)


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Re: PUG Themes

2001-04-28 Thread Cy Galley

Just show us pictures of the dust of an earthquake or the anguish of an
owner watching his home in a mud slide down a hill, or the fire of one of
the out of control brush fires. Maybe a tidal wave wiping out a Malibu home.

HAR
- Original Message -
From: Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 6:08 PM
Subject: Re: PUG Themes


 The October 2002 gallery theme Bad Weather is exclusionary and unfair to
 Southern California residents as we are seldom plummeted with hydro
meteors,
 blown by atmospheric vortexes or subject to other meteorological maladies
 during this time of year.

 Har!

 Regards,
 Bob...

 Give blood. Play hockey.

 - Original Message -
 From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Pentax Discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 1:58 PM
 Subject: PUG Themes


  The recent bruahua regarding exclusionary gallery themes has
  caused me to take another look at the upcoming themes. Please
  have a look at:
  http://pug.komkon.org/general/themes.html
  for information regarding this page update.
  Thanks
  William Robb


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I Won a Big one

2001-04-28 Thread Steve Larson

Hi,
 I won an ebay auction for a SMC Tak 1000/8. I`m still kind of
trembling from the end of the auction. The guy had a zero
feedback, kind of scary.
 I just hope it gets here in one piece. It`s the only one that 
I have seen, and I REALLY wanted one, so I sold the wife for it (kidding).
No more camera equipment for me for a while, a long while.
 Anyone know if the wooden tripod it comes with is any good?
Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California

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RE: digital macro

2001-04-28 Thread J. C. O'Connell



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of J. C. O'Connell
 Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 10:29 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: digital macro and minlab goofs
 
 
 another excellent digital macro:
 http://www.gate.net/~hifisapi/65vette.jpg
 
 
BTW, I should note I'm using a Panasonic
4090 digicam which is unique in that it uses
a 120MB superdisk for storage. This yeilds
450! hi res ( 960X1280) pix on a single disc.
Download is either USB from camera or insert superdisk
in superdisk drive ( if you have one).

Has 3:1 zoom lens and LARGE 2 LCD.
On camera flash works great even for macro which 
was a real suprise. I love this camera for web use
and it saving me money of film/processing everytime
I use it. Cost only $400 after rebate.
JCO
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RE: I Won a Big one

2001-04-28 Thread J. C. O'Connell



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Steve Larson
 Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 11:02 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: I Won a Big one


 Hi,
  I won an ebay auction for a SMC Tak 1000/8. I`m still kind of
 trembling from the end of the auction. The guy had a zero
 feedback, kind of scary.
  I just hope it gets here in one piece. It`s the only one that
 I have seen, and I REALLY wanted one, so I sold the wife for it (kidding).
 No more camera equipment for me for a while, a long while.
  Anyone know if the wooden tripod it comes with is any good?
 Steve Larson
 Redondo Beach, California

So youre the guy. I was second bidder but didnt go nuts cause
I already have the 1000 F8 SMC K version and dont use it
too much. Good luck and have fun. It sure is a big gun.
JCO

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Re: Official word on teleconverters

2001-04-28 Thread Bob Keefer

Thanks for the info, Ken. I have to admit, though, that this kind of
ambiguity isn't discouraging me at all from thinking about moving over to
Canon, at least for long-lens photography. My son's 300/4 IS lens works
spendidly with both Canon TCs and the literature is perfectly
straightforward about compatibility issues.

With Pentax, it seems like you have to undertake a major research project to
find out what's compatible with what. And I'm still unclear on why my Pentax
300/4.5+2X-S combination is so poor. And, no, it's not bad technique, as I'm
able to get perfectly sharp pictures with a similar combination of Canon
equipment even with IS turned off.

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Re: Vivitar Flashes

2001-04-28 Thread Doug Franklin

On Sat, 28 Apr 2001 22:46:13 -0400, Jeff Tokayer wrote:

 That sounds quite conservative.
 Some flashes have trigger voltages of 150V and up.

I have one that triggers at 240V.

TTYL, DougF

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Re: OT: autofocus motor

2001-04-28 Thread Eduardo Carone Costa Júnior

Hi Ken,

At least we agree to disagree! No. That's not true... perhaps a slight
misunderstanding.
Of course a camera AF does not have a gear box, as a automobile does. But my
analogy was more focused --- no pun intended --- on a car drive shaft.
Perhaps it's due to my poor English, as I'm not that familiar with the
proper terms used in your language. In Portuguese we can consider all the
parts linking a car's engine to it's wheels as a transmission. I don't know;
maybe, in English, driveline would be a better term...
Disregarding the gear box, a car transmission seems to be like an AF system;
at least to me:-)
I'm not so sure if the AF shaft works in a straight line, as you said,
specially if you consider those big, fancy and expensive telephoto lenses...
Answering your question, I may be considered an admirer of almost every
classic ---using this term will all due precaution --- there is. As owner,
together with my father, I do have a few. I'm a die hard VW fan, have a few
and consider their concepts to be the work of a genius. We also have a 51
Bel Air, a 58 Borgward Isabella TS Coupe, a 64 MB 220S, 3 Morris Oxfords
from the early fifties (one of then looks original in every aspect, except
its small block Chrysler :-)) and some other cars of less interest.
Best regards,
  Eduardo.



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Re: Vivitar Flashes

2001-04-28 Thread Jeff Tokayer

Make sure you ground the flash before using it (?)

Jeff

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From: Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 11:51 PM
Subject: Re: Vivitar Flashes


 On Sat, 28 Apr 2001 22:46:13 -0400, Jeff Tokayer wrote:
 
  That sounds quite conservative.
  Some flashes have trigger voltages of 150V and up.
 
 I have one that triggers at 240V.
 
 TTYL, DougF
 
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Re: Lenses 28 mm (was RE: Gallery Themes)

2001-04-28 Thread Michel Adam


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From: Kevin Thornsberry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 20:30
Subject: Lenses  28 mm (was RE: Gallery Themes)


 Dave,

 Check the following link

 http://www.photocritique.net/cgi-bin/phtg?GREG+SUMMERS

 And work through Greg's images.  He takes quite a few shots with a 14 mm Sigma. 
(Please forgive me, he doesn't use a Pentax mount)
Granted, he lives in Boulder Colorado and has some pretty nice subject matter to work 
with but following his work has made me lust
for one of the 14 mm lenses.

 Some 14mm images I noted are:

 Sunrise Flash

I have problems with that one. Where was the sun, at his back? To get that kind of
cloud lighting, I think (just from personal experience) that you would need
the sun facing you, which does not account for the shadows on the vegetation.

Please, someone tell me they have seen that kind of lighting on clouds with
the sun at their backs 

Michel


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Re: When did Pentax start making this lens?

2001-04-28 Thread Todd Stanley


Not to mention that if Pentax had a 2000mm F3.5 lens, Canon and Nikon would
be sweating bullets

Todd

At 03:02 PM 4/28/01 +0900, you wrote:
Hi,

At 27 Apr 2001 20:23:38 -0700,
Gerald Cermak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote;

 http://www02.bhphotovideo.com/default.sph

It should be SMCP2000/13.5, not f/3.5.

If it were really f/3.5, the diameter of its barrel would
be around 60 cm.   That's nonsence for a 35mm lens.

Regards,
--
Yoshihiko Takinami
Osaka, Japan
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Re: Ultrasonic motors crap?

2001-04-28 Thread Todd Stanley


Not as bad as it sounds, that's 72,000 seconds.  Say it takes on average 1
sec to focus (pretty conservatice I say), that's 72,000 focusing's, or
2,000 rolls of 36 exposure film - that means it will probably last longer
than those cheap plastic things those lenses attach to :)

Todd

At 01:47 AM 4/29/01 +0200, you wrote:
According to Canon the ultrasonic motors used in their lenses have a
lifespan of less than 20 hours due to friction wear and tear. This
according to Nikkei Industrial daily. (I read it on photo.net)

Pål

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Re: Vivitar Flashes

2001-04-28 Thread Todd Stanley


I've seen as high as 600V.  Most are about 150V.  Don't have to worry about
it as long as you don't complete the circuit between the contacts.

Todd

At 11:51 PM 4/28/01 -0400, you wrote:
On Sat, 28 Apr 2001 22:46:13 -0400, Jeff Tokayer wrote:

 That sounds quite conservative.
 Some flashes have trigger voltages of 150V and up.

I have one that triggers at 240V.

TTYL, DougF

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Re: PUG Themes

2001-04-28 Thread John Glover

Well, I suppose you could stretch the interpretation to include earthquakeswe may 
have our fair share of atmospherics vortices here in the Midwest, but at least the 
land beneath our feet is solid! (or, it has been since the New Madrid incident of 1811)

John


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From: Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 6:08 PM
Subject: Re: PUG Themes


 The October 2002 gallery theme Bad Weather is exclusionary and unfair to
 Southern California residents as we are seldom plummeted with hydro meteors,
 blown by atmospheric vortexes or subject to other meteorological maladies
 during this time of year.
 
 Har!
 
 Regards,
 Bob...
 
 Give blood. Play hockey.
 
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 Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 1:58 PM
 Subject: PUG Themes
 
 
  The recent bruahua regarding exclusionary gallery themes has
  caused me to take another look at the upcoming themes. Please
  have a look at:
  http://pug.komkon.org/general/themes.html
  for information regarding this page update.
  Thanks
  William Robb
 
 
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Re: PUG Themes

2001-04-28 Thread John Glover

I'd forgotten about the mudslidesanyone know of a really steep hill where I can 
build my $2 million dream house??

John

(dream being the key word there!)

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From: Cy Galley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 7:05 PM
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 Just show us pictures of the dust of an earthquake or the anguish of an
 owner watching his home in a mud slide down a hill, or the fire of one of
 the out of control brush fires. Maybe a tidal wave wiping out a Malibu home.
 
 HAR
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 From: Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 6:08 PM
 Subject: Re: PUG Themes
 
 
  The October 2002 gallery theme Bad Weather is exclusionary and unfair to
  Southern California residents as we are seldom plummeted with hydro
 meteors,
  blown by atmospheric vortexes or subject to other meteorological maladies
  during this time of year.
 
  Har!
 
  Regards,
  Bob...
 
  Give blood. Play hockey.
 
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  Subject: PUG Themes
 
 
   The recent bruahua regarding exclusionary gallery themes has
   caused me to take another look at the upcoming themes. Please
   have a look at:
   http://pug.komkon.org/general/themes.html
   for information regarding this page update.
   Thanks
   William Robb
 
 
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RE: Gallery Themes

2001-04-28 Thread Kevin Thornsberry

Based on numerouse ebay auctions I've seen for a  UV lens I recommend you get a 
Pentax UV lens (filter) to screw on to your 3rd party lenses and then you'll be 
legal--right?

-Original Message-
From:   Todd Stanley [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Saturday, April 28, 2001 9:31 PM
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Subject:RE: Gallery Themes

 

Well rule #9 goes like this: 9. Themed month gallery images should have
been created with Pentax camera and/or lens. Images created with non Pentax
equipment are welcome in the open category months. 

I read that as it's OK to use a non-Pentax body as long as you are using a
Pentax lens.  In the open months anything goes.  It's kind of annoying
though, when I have the perfect picture to submit then suddenly realize it
was taken with my Ricoh body and a 3rd party lens.  Doh!

Todd


At 01:55 PM 4/27/01 -0600, you wrote:
I agree.  Just a question, what about a Pentax body and non-pentax lens, or
a non pentax body (like my Chinon) with one of my Pentax lenses?

Jerry in Houston

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I personally dislike the lens themes.  I figure though if some individuals
can occasionally submit images taken with non-Pentax cameras, that I can
break the theme rules from time to time.

Tom C.

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Re: Lenses 28 mm (was RE: Gallery Themes)

2001-04-28 Thread Dave Maki

Thanks, Kevin.  That is what I was looking for.  The Sigma 14mm actually
gave some really nice effects.  The only picture that felt uncomfortably
distorted was the Forest Runner.  I will start paying attention to the
short lens.

Kevin Thornsberry wrote:
 
 Dave,
 
 Check the following link
 
 http://www.photocritique.net/cgi-bin/phtg?GREG+SUMMERS
 
 And work through Greg's images.  He takes quite a few shots with a 14 mm Sigma. 
(Please forgive me, he doesn't use a Pentax mount)  Granted, he lives in Boulder 
Colorado and has some pretty nice subject matter to work with but following his work 
has made me lust for one of the 14 mm lenses.
 
 Some 14mm images I noted are:
 Rock of Ages
 Quarter Moon over the Flatirons
 Falling Inward
 We Are Connected
 Raw Strength
 Sunrise Flash
 Forest Runner
 
 Hope this helps.
 
 Kevin Thornsberry


-- 
Dave Maki

Calgary, Alberta
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