Re: Enable Shmenable. grin. Mint KX in my paws.
Hi there Lon, I have to agree with you here with the KX, I picked up a Black KX in mint condition last year. When I took it for a CLA the local repair guy said he's never seen such a nice example of a KX, it hadn't even had a CLA before. All mechanical, match needle metering, DOF, MLU self timer and they take common LR44 batteries for the meter. They are very nice cameras although I still seem to be using the K1000 and KM 99% of the time in fear of brassing that black beauty. I have both the 55K1.8 and the 50K1.4. The 55 K1.8 is a fine lens indeed, but I'll agree with Mark in that the 50 K 1.4 absolutely ROCKS. :) Cheers, Bill Gekas - Original Message - From: Lon Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PDML new Pentax Discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 9:57 AM Subject: Enable Shmenable. grin. Mint KX in my paws. Thar's been a powerful amount of chat here recently about 1/6000 with synch and titanium coating, and multi-point autofocus and enabling to the tune of 900 bucks. Well, folks, to heck with it. Just got an absolutely _mint_ KX with 1.8 55mm K lens. They say the MX is better. Surely they lie. They say the LX is better. Surely they lie. The KX is what God intended cameras to be. BTW, the feel of that 55mm K lens is very nice, too. Guess I'd better stop pawing over A and M lenses and just gussy myself up with some sweet ole K's. We are all enabled in our own ways, some to the tune of 800 bucks, some to the tune of 150 bucks. So where's a macro shot that requires mirror lockup, dammit? Gimme one NOW. lol. Who else has one of these puppies? Enabled MY way -Lon Williamson - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Colour-presentation of Pentax lenses compared to Other Brands
Hugo wrote: HK Films came back and actually for the first time it struck me how HK different our two photo-systems were. HK ... Hugo, were the films processed by the same lab? I routinely develop slide film and I can tell that even slight variations of temperature or E6 chemicals getting close to exhaustion can induce magenta or yellow casts. Here's another track: were you shooting on Elitechrome and comparing directly to Velvia? Besides these being two very different beasts, Elitechromes tend to render more bluish winter sceneries. HK Are Pentax lenses usually cooler or more blue/magenta than other HK brands? I'd say my Pentax glass is more neutral than my yellowish Tamron, but the difference is not that big to strike me the way you felt. HK Is this still the case for the modern AF lenses or only for the older HK Manual focus lenses? There was once a thread here discussing differences in colour of reflections between various lens generations. While older lenses reflections were more consistent, recent FA lenses reflection colours are all over the spectrum. It appears that Pentax varies the lens SMC coatings to compensate for specific glass colour in order to get a more neutral final image. Servus, Alin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: AF adapter 1.7x
At 04:51 20/06/01, you wrote: The local shop has an AF 1.7x adapter. I have never considered using one and it seemed strange acting when I tried it. It looks as if it has never been used. It is part of an SF1-N setup that is on consignment. I believe they are asking $125 for it. Worth it? Is it useful? Etc., etc., etc. I bought mine off Rob Studdert. I have an A series 50mm stuck on it permanently, and it makes a wonderful AF 85mm lens. Shame is, I very rarely use any focal lengths around that range so it is under used. When I do use it, I'm happy with the way it works, and the results it gives. Cheers Jon Relax! Take life as it comes, you can't chase the sun, you can't race the wind - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Colour-presentation of Pentax lenses compared to Other Brands
I remember there was a long thread on one of the rec.photo groups some five years ago on this topic. Then, however, the observations went the other way round; Pentax was claimed to be the winner of colour rendition. As others have said there are many other factors that can affect colour rendition. I'll add my share: Hardangervidda is a mountain plateau some 1000m ASL. There's more UV light up there (personal experience), and the snow doesn't make that any better. Maybe there is a difference between makes in the UV transparency of the multicoating? There are differences between films in UV sensitivity too. Are you sure you took the same motifs with the same films? You shot with an MX. I have been to Hardangervidda (and other mountain areas in Norway) with both a P50, MX, LX and Z-1 under similar conditions of snow and bright lights. My experience is that the MX light meter handle this situation poorly. It tends to underexpose scenes with snow, and it also seems to have the most temperature- and humidity-sensitive meter of the four. Note that both the P50 and the LX also have centre-weight meters, but with other technology than the MX. Jostein -Original Message- From: Hugo Kok [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] My main question is centered around the colour rendition of Pentax lenses as compared to other brands. Are there members in this group who are using or have been using 35 mm SLR's of other brands in such a manner that they can more or less objectively make a comparison between the way lenses of both (or more) brands bring forth colours? More specifically, are there members who are able to testify that there is a 'common' differentiation between lenses of Cannon, Nikon, Minolta, Sigma, Cosina, Tamron, Panagor, etc.? I mean, in such a way that one can say: brand X has a warm (yellow/red) presentation as compared to brand Y which has a cool (blueish) presentation? I'll try to explain the context of my question. Recently I have been to Norway for a week trekking with some friends on the Hardanger Vidda - water, snow, water, tundra and water (the water part was our fault: wrong time of the season). One of those friends is a 'photography-buddy' of mine for more than 3 years and he shoots with Cannon FD lenses (EF camera). We do enjoy watching each others slides every +/- 2 weeks which contain pictures about virtually EVERYTHING that is crossing our camera's. It doesn't happen too often that we are both shooting extensively the same subjects and objects. Now this week in Norway we did. Films used were Fuji Velvia and Kodak Elitechrome II (and two Extra Colour Elitechromes). Lenses used were on the FD side: 50mm/1.4, 28mm/2.0, 17mm/3,5 Tokina and 135mm/2.8 Panagor handled with a EF camera and on the Pentax side: 50mm/1.4A, 40mm/2.8 pancake and 85/1.8 K and 135mm/2.5 K on a MX camera. Films came back and actually for the first time it struck me how different our two photo-systems were. It was as if we had been to two different places, so much the colours differed. When so directly comparing I can say that my impression is that Pentax lenses are cool, blue-ish or on the VERY neutral side of the colour spectrum, while the Cannon FD lenses have a more pleasing warm presentation. I use the word 'pleasing' because such was the subjective experience of the whole group of us who went to Norway and saw the slides - but it was my own impression too, maybe even more so than the others. If I have to give my opinion I have to admit that my slides were too blue/magenta and his were on the yellow/red side. When you ask me honestly what to think of it I think his pictures were better in terms of colour and contrast. Normally I think my Pentax lenses give a more 'realistic' presentation than the FD's, and certainly the truth is somewhere in between, but for now I feel that my last series of slides are way too cool/blue/magenta. At this point I would like to know if this sort of impressions about colour are shared by more of my group members. Not with the aim to conclude which brand is best but more to place Pentax on a comparative colour-map. Is there anybody listening who can attest to above described phenomena? Are Pentax lenses usually cooler or more blue/magenta than other brands? Is this still the case for the modern AF lenses or only for the older Manual focus lenses? Any comments are welcome, but please enlighten me. Thanks, Hugo = Don't it always seems to go that you don't know what you've got till it's gone - Joni Mitchell. __ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ###
Re: Colour-presentation of Pentax lenses compared to Other Brands
Hi all, there have NO filters been used, just plain camera + lens. Yhe Hardanger Vidda is on 1100-1300 meter height, so there could be a warrant to use skylight. But then again, the results between our two systems should be tending towards the same blue-magenta side of the spectrum. Moreover, scanning slides made backwards in time this same difference is noticed now I've come to this conclusion. I wonder how it is that it occured to me so late in time. The difference IS obvious. It's true that I didn't notice this before and I do realize that the blue-ish representation often is more realistic in my eyes. But I wondered if there were more fellows having discovered this same trend. By the way, what does a skylight filter do exactly and when is the use of it warranted? Is it some kind of UV filter? Thought of the latter that Pentax lenses were coated enough just to leave them be... Thanks for reactions so far, Hugo. = Don't it always seems to go that you don't know what you've got till it's gone - Joni Mitchell. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Still unpacking...
Hi everyone, Well we are almost done unpacking, I had to stop to get some dental work done. But I am trying to keep up with the messages.. only about 420 to go.. LOL... Anyhow, my sister has been unpacking her place and she found the camera I told ya'll about a few months ago. I am so very excited about it. It needs some cleaning on the outside but a friend of mine who knows alot about cameras looked at it and said that it was beautiful inside. And I have to agree with him cause I was sitting there looking at it with him and there is not a speck of dust or corrosion anywhere on this camera... (I am very grateful that she took out the battery before she packed it away) except for the carrying strap. It is pretty old leather and I will most definately have to replace it. OK so.. here is what my sister, handed over to me... ASAHI Pentax on top it has these numbers 5766776 SP 1000 it is a screw mount camera and she so far has only found this one lens. which all this time since about .. hmmm 1980 or so has been put up.. it had a filter on it that when she first showed it to me I thought oh no.. (I didnt realize it had a filter) its ruined.. but when she took off the filter the lens on the inside is beautiful.. it is a SMC TAkumar 1:2/55 Asahi OPT. CO., Japan. When looking through this lens it has a circle in the center for focusing, it is really neat. And when you move the f stops you can actually see in the view finder it lightening and darkening. I ran a roll of film through it but I have not gotten them back yet. I cant wait to see how they turn out. Well back to unpacking.. Rebecca NetZero Platinum No Banner Ads and Unlimited Access Sign Up Today - Only $9.95 per month! http://www.netzero.net - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S; First impression
PentaxClover wrote on 6-19-01: Hello Everybody guess what I gonna buy tomorrow !!! My educated guess is a Nikon F-100. Right? :) Cheers, Paulo Ernest A. No. He's seen the light--an MZ-S. Either that, or a pony. Dan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S; First impression
My guess is a Korean car of similar size to a Mercedes Benz ;-) Todd Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A Promaster skylight filter? A roll of Kodak Max? An Achiever flash? A Sears lens? Don't keep us in suspense!!! Todd At 12:33 AM 6/20/01 +0200, you wrote: Hello Everybody guess what I gonna buy tomorrow !!! See you [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: AF adapter 1.7x
Matamoros, Cesar A. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The local shop has an AF 1.7x adapter. I have never considered using one and it seemed strange acting when I tried it. It looks as if it has never been used. It is part of an SF1-N setup that is on consignment. I believe they are asking $125 for it. Worth it? Is it useful? Etc., etc., etc. $125 is a bit steep. I paid $119 through KEH. You might try to talk them down a bit but it's worth doing. I find it to be a fine teleconverter. Its built-in focusing combined with the lens's focusing allows you to get very close; good for macro work. Also 1.7x is a nice compromise between 1.4x and 2x. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: MZ-S; First impression
What made you change your mind PentaxClover? What finally sold it to you? Or did you just say 'what the heck...' Rob Brigham -Original Message- From: Dan Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 20 June 2001 11:09 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MZ-S; First impression PentaxClover wrote on 6-19-01: Hello Everybody guess what I gonna buy tomorrow !!! My educated guess is a Nikon F-100. Right? :) Cheers, Paulo Ernest A. No. He's seen the light--an MZ-S. Either that, or a pony. Dan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT: Rude (slightly) joke...
From a discussion forum: BE WARNED! THIS ONE IS A BIT RUDE. (what else from me!) IF YOU ARE OF A SENSITIVE NATURE THEN READ NO FURTHER! What does a camera and a condom have in common? They both capture that magic moment. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Rude (slightly) joke...
That should be a Kodak camera. (The're the only ones that are _always_ guaranteed to capture that magic moment). :) At 12:04 PM 6/20/2001 +0100, you wrote: From a discussion forum: BE WARNED! THIS ONE IS A BIT RUDE. (what else from me!) IF YOU ARE OF A SENSITIVE NATURE THEN READ NO FURTHER! What does a camera and a condom have in common? They both capture that magic moment. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Still unpacking...
You should be able to change the f-stops with out darkening the view in the view finder. Check to see if the meter switch on the left hand side of the body is always in the on position, or if not that the auto manual switch on the lens is set to manual. You will have to meter stopped down but the lens diaphragm should reopen after the shutter fires, (the meter switch turns itself off to save batteries). These are great cameras by the way. Due to their inherent simplicity and very good build I would expect one to last nearly forever as any mechanical system will. Using one will also teach you a lot about light and DOF. At 05:31 AM 6/20/2001 -0700, you wrote: Hi everyone, Well we are almost done unpacking, I had to stop to get some dental work done. But I am trying to keep up with the messages.. only about 420 to go.. LOL... Anyhow, my sister has been unpacking her place and she found the camera I told ya'll about a few months ago. I am so very excited about it. It needs some cleaning on the outside but a friend of mine who knows alot about cameras looked at it and said that it was beautiful inside. And I have to agree with him cause I was sitting there looking at it with him and there is not a speck of dust or corrosion anywhere on this camera... (I am very grateful that she took out the battery before she packed it away) except for the carrying strap. It is pretty old leather and I will most definately have to replace it. OK so.. here is what my sister, handed over to me... ASAHI Pentax on top it has these numbers 5766776 SP 1000 it is a screw mount camera and she so far has only found this one lens. which all this time since about .. hmmm 1980 or so has been put up.. it had a filter on it that when she first showed it to me I thought oh no.. (I didnt realize it had a filter) its ruined.. but when she took off the filter the lens on the inside is beautiful.. it is a SMC TAkumar 1:2/55 Asahi OPT. CO., Japan. When looking through this lens it has a circle in the center for focusing, it is really neat. And when you move the f stops you can actually see in the view finder it lightening and darkening. I ran a roll of film through it but I have not gotten them back yet. I cant wait to see how they turn out. Well back to unpacking.. Rebecca NetZero Platinum No Banner Ads and Unlimited Access Sign Up Today - Only $9.95 per month! http://www.netzero.net - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Traveling in Deutschland
Hi Richard, I have to second most of the statements of the other german Pentaxers. Martin Trautmann wrote: ... Freiburg is a less known, but interesting spot. Less means mainly Japanese tourists, while the Americans stick to Heidelberg ;-) Maybe you should have a trip from Freiburg to KAISERSTUHL. It's a small hill nearby with vulcanic origin. Breisach is a nice town with a lot of premises with good wine ! How do you travel around? What do you look for? Nürnberg has some interesting views of the old, rebuild town (castle, wall etc.). I can't tell you any really interesting spots in Erlangen, although I've studied there for several years. That's unfortunately true. As I'm born and lived almost 30 years in Erlangen I know this very well. The buildings in Erlangen are relatively new and therefore not so attractive. There are a lot of buildings from Siemens company as it's the hometown. Only in mai/june there is an annual fair at a hill which is very nice. But it's already over. But a trip to the franconian suisse ( fraenkische Schweiz ) about 20 km in the north, would be nice for taking pictures. There is river ALTMUEHL with a nice valley and also some impressive caves around. A lot of fun and good weather for your trip ! regards Bernd - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: pentax-discuss-digest V1 #872
Hey guys: I'm officially back on the list after being off it for a while. I've been checking it most days at work but of course not able to respond. Looking forward to lively discussion. I'm on this digest list which seems better than the regular list. I was always overwhelmed with the number of messages. This seems simpler. Good idea. Anyway I've got three LXs and a PZ1. For those who say the MZS is too pricey,I say I thought the same about the LX but I now own three. If it's as good as it seems, it's worth it. Whether I'll go out and buy one immediately is another story. However, as soon as the time comes for a new camera, I'll seriously look at the MZS. It's just a matter of time... Vic - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Question about ZX5n Focusing Screen
I seem to have gotten a little speck of dust/dirt on the top side of my ZX5n focusing screen. Its really annoying through the finder. On my LX, there's a hinged door that drops down so you can change/clean the focusing screen. Does anyone know if the screen on the ZX5n can be removed w/o damaging the camera? It looks similar, but I don't think there's a hinge like the LX. thanks! _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Colour-presentation of Pentax lenses compared to Other Brands
A skylight filter is essentially a UV filter with a slight (and hard to see) tint toward the red. Many folks (not me) use them as a protective cover for a lens as some would use a UV filter. The filter is often useful at midday and when there is some haze or other condition where the scene has an unwanted cold cast. The effect is sometimes too subtle for the eye to recognize as our eyes (brain) adjust, but the film sees it. My bet is a subtle difference in development, most likely temperature. Regards, Bob... -- Those who say that life is worth living at any cost have already written an epitaph of infamy, for there is no cause and no person that they will not betray to stay alive. Sidney Hook From: Hugo Kok [EMAIL PROTECTED] there have NO filters been used, just plain camera + lens. Yhe Hardanger Vidda is on 1100-1300 meter height, so there could be a warrant to use skylight. But then again, the results between our two systems should be tending towards the same blue-magenta side of the spectrum. Moreover, scanning slides made backwards in time this same difference is noticed now I've come to this conclusion. I wonder how it is that it occured to me so late in time. The difference IS obvious. It's true that I didn't notice this before and I do realize that the blue-ish representation often is more realistic in my eyes. But I wondered if there were more fellows having discovered this same trend. By the way, what does a skylight filter do exactly and when is the use of it warranted? Is it some kind of UV filter? Thought of the latter that Pentax lenses were coated enough just to leave them be... - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
LX Gallery
Just a subtle hint that if you wish to partake in the LX Commemorative Gallery, the submission deadline is fast approaching. Thanks William Robb Remember, the LX Gallery is coming up. Please see: http://pug.komkon.org/LX_Gallery/LX_Submit.html for more information. Submission deadline is June 30, 2001 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Question about ZX5n Focusing Screen
- Original Message - From: K C Subject: Question about ZX5n Focusing Screen I seem to have gotten a little speck of dust/dirt on the top side of my ZX5n focusing screen. Its really annoying through the finder. On my LX, there's a hinged door that drops down so you can change/clean the focusing screen. Does anyone know if the screen on the ZX5n can be removed w/o damaging the camera? It looks similar, but I don't think there's a hinge like the LX. Tme MZ-5n does not have a user interchangable screen, in theory. Apparently the fram that holds the screen is help in place with two tiny screws that are fairly easy to get at though. William Robb Remember, the LX Gallery is coming up. Please see: http://pug.komkon.org/LX_Gallery/LX_Submit.html for more information. Submission deadline is June 30, 2001 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: AF adapter 1.7x
On Wed, 20 Jun 2001 15:25:21 +0800, Jon Hope wrote: I believe they are asking $125 for it. Worth it? Is it useful? Etc., etc., etc. Yes, I think $125 is not unreasonable ... I bought mine off Rob Studdert. I have an A series 50mm stuck on it permanently, and it makes a wonderful AF 85mm lens. Shame is, I very rarely use any focal lengths around that range so it is under used. When I do use it, I'm happy with the way it works, and the results it gives. I have been using the 1.7 converter a lot with the 300mm f/2.8 lately, this makes for a very nice 500mm autofocus lens at about f/4.7. Focusing with the Z1 and MZ-3 is good enough for the sort of wildlife shots I tend to do. (you probably will want a good monopod to support this combo!) The need for pre-focus the manual lens, and let the converter do the rest works nicely, but sometimes lets you miss a shot because focus is just out of range and you need to readjust the manual focus ring. Still, a very usefull item when you have good MF lenses and also use AF sometimes. I have also been using the converter to stack onto the 300mm plus 2.0X-L converter. This yields a manual focus 1000mm lens f/9.5 with reasonable sharpness in the center. PS: AF focusing works best with lenses of f/2.8 or better. Regards, JvW - Jan van Wijk; www.fsys.demon.nl - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Colour-presentation of Pentax lenses compared to Other Brands
A skylight filter is a slight warming filter, used to eliminate some of the blueish cast when shooting outside, especially on overcast days. Many people leave it on the lens all the time, as a lens protecter. That's why I wondered if your friend used one. I still say you need to use the same film, and process at the same lab in order to compare. Also, a very slight difference in exposure could also cause this. Compare the light meters. Do you shoot in auto or manual? (most auto cameras are stepless in auto, while in manual you can only adjust the exposure in 1/2 or full stop increments). Does he shoot in auto or manual? Do you have any 3rd party K-mount lenses to compare the Pentax glass too? Todd At 02:14 AM 6/20/01 -0700, you wrote: Hi all, there have NO filters been used, just plain camera + lens. Yhe Hardanger Vidda is on 1100-1300 meter height, so there could be a warrant to use skylight. But then again, the results between our two systems should be tending towards the same blue-magenta side of the spectrum. Moreover, scanning slides made backwards in time this same difference is noticed now I've come to this conclusion. I wonder how it is that it occured to me so late in time. The difference IS obvious. It's true that I didn't notice this before and I do realize that the blue-ish representation often is more realistic in my eyes. But I wondered if there were more fellows having discovered this same trend. By the way, what does a skylight filter do exactly and when is the use of it warranted? Is it some kind of UV filter? Thought of the latter that Pentax lenses were coated enough just to leave them be... Thanks for reactions so far, Hugo. = Don't it always seems to go that you don't know what you've got till it's gone - Joni Mitchell. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax - better or not?
Sorry folks, I was out of country for a while, hence, referring earlier e-mails. Out of curiosity, what is this fuzzy logic ? Thanks in advance anand. From: Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pentax - better or not? Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 22:24:39 +0200 I believe Pentax used fuzzy logic back in the Z-20(?) for program mode. Anyway, I believe all manufacturers use the way Minolta uses as described below. No system litterally go thruogh a database of, say, 100 000 pictures to determine exposure. Also, Pentax have used distance informations for metering and AF the last ten years and both Minolta and Nikon are newcomers in this regard. Pål - Original Message - From: Pentax Clover [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 1:40 AM Subject: Re: Pentax - better or not? Hello here is the answer a friend of mine wish to tell you about minolta : MINOLTA n'utilise pas, comme le prétend ton interlocuteur de base de données pour la détermination de l'expo. Celle ci se fait, depuis le 7 xi, par le système fuzzy logic, logique floue en Français. Chaque paramètre de la prise de vue est analysé par l'appareil qui après de savants calculs en déduit le type de scène à laquelle il a affaire. Exemple grossier : focale courte, mise au point sur l'infini, premier plan présent = paysage. C'est très succint comme exemple car il y a en réalité plusieurs centaines de données analysées, mais en aucun cas une comparaison avec un stock de scènes en mémoire dans l'appareil. In english with babel : MINOLTA does not use, as claims it your interlocutor of data base for the determination of the expo. That Ci is done, since the 7 xi, by the system fuzzy logic, fuzzy logic in French. Each parameter of the catch of sight is analyzed by the apparatus which afterwards of scientists calculations deduces the type from it of scene to which it deals. Coarse example: short focal distance, developed on the infinite one, foreground present = landscape. It is very succint like example because there are actually several hundreds of analyzed data, but to in no case a comparison with a stock of scenes in memory in the apparatus. See you [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax - better or not? OT answer
In a message dated 6/20/2001 9:40:35 AM US Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Out of curiosity, what is this fuzzy logic ? Thanks in advance anand. Fuzzy logic is what most of us apply to political decisions. Sorry, couldn't resist. Best, Ed M. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Enable Shmenable. grin. Mint KX in my paws.
I also have a KX that my repair guy told me had seen little use when I brought it in for a CLA. When I was researching what to get as a step up from my K1000, what stood out for me regarding the KX vs. the KM is the KX's wonderfully responsive silicon light meter (similar to the K2), as opposed to the CdS cell in the KM (same as in the K1000 and Spotmatic F). The silicon cell is not prone to the temporary memory effect of the CdS cells and seems to provide a greater range (ASA 8-6400). The KX also has the aperture readout (unless it has become slightly misaligned, which seems to often happen) and MLU. I love it as a completely manual camera, although it does seem quite big compared to my ME Super and Super Program. The M and A series lenses (at least the 50mm ones) look a bit small on it, and I was lucky enough to pick up a K 50 1.4 for it, which proved significantly sharper than my M 50 1.4 in a few very unscientific tests I did. Joe RE: Hi there Lon, I have to agree with you here with the KX, I picked up a Black KX in mint condition last year. When I took it for a CLA the local repair guy said he's never seen such a nice example of a KX, it hadn't even had a CLA before. All mechanical, match needle metering, DOF, MLU self timer and they take common LR44 batteries for the meter. They are very nice cameras although I still seem to be using the K1000 and KM 99% of the time in fear of brassing that black beauty. I have both the 55K1.8 and the 50K1.4. The 55 K1.8 is a fine lens indeed, but I'll agree with Mark in that the 50 K 1.4 absolutely ROCKS. :) Cheers, Bill Gekas Joe Wilensky Staff Writer Media and Technology Services - Cornell University 1150 Comstock Hall Ithaca, NY 14853-0901 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel: 607-255-1575 fax: 607-255-9873 Please visit our Web site at http://www.mediasrv.cornell.edu - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Colour-presentation of Pentax lenses compared to Other Brands
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 00:28:53 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Colour-presentation of Pentax lenses compared to Other Brands What I can say from personal experience is Olympus lenses give far more cooler (in terms of color temperature) results than Pentax. This is comparing slides taken with same brand and type of film in same place. ones with my LX and my SMC lenses and the others with OM system. The Olys look really different, more cooler. Even the ones taken with polarizer and including warm colors look cooler than the Pentax ones. Just my two cents Albano (in digest mode now) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Colour-presentation of Pentax lenses compared to Other Brands
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 00:28:53 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Colour-presentation of Pentax lenses compared to Other Brands What I can say from personal experience is Olympus lenses give far more cooler (in terms of color temperature) results than Pentax. This is comparing slides taken with same brand and type of film in same place. ones with my LX and my SMC lenses and the others with OM system. The Olys look really different, more cooler. Even the ones taken with polarizer and including warm colors look cooler than the Pentax ones. Just my two cents Albano (in digest mode now) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S impressions
Gianfranco wrote: GI What I do not like is the layout of the focus indicator. I think one can GI get used to it in little time, but I thought it's awkward to look out of the GI frame to see where the hell the camera is focusing at when in automatic. Not a GI great problem, but a bit annoying. Hi Gianfranco, I've been playing with the F80 and, while at the beginning I liked how the active focus sensor highlights over the image, I realized in the end how distracting this is. The look tends to converge to the sensor symbol and the eye may fail to check the effective accuracy of the focus. As for selecting the active focus sensor, the display on the bottom of the viewfinder should suffice. I like the image in the viewfinder as uncluttered as possible. GI I think the 24-90 has a very useful focal range. Maybe I'm going to purchase GI one soon. Just today I hold a sample in my hands. It's significantly better built than the FA 28-70/4, with no wobble of the inner tubes. Zoom and focus collars are better damped. The only thing that bothers me is the small focus throw - I doubt that 45 degrees are enough for accurate manual focus. As for optical quality... I'm still waiting for reports. I expect it to be better than the FA 28-70/4. Compactness is not enough to justify the price. Servus, Alin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: AF adapter 1.7x
In a message dated 6/20/01 11:13:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I believe they are asking $125 for it. Worth it? Is it useful? Etc., etc., etc. Are we talking about a 1.7X for autofocus, or the Pentax 1.7X autofocus adapter?
Tricky shot - need advice
Hi, I need advice on how to go about taking a rather tricky shot. The subject is the inside of a church dome with an exquisite pattern on the inside. Here are some problems/challenges that I face. The place is huge (approx 50 meters from the church floor to the dome's apex). The interior lighting is very problematic, a mxture ot tungsten and flourescent ligting of various types. I Want the shot to be symmetrical to enphasise the symmetry of the pattern. The problem with this is that there is a big silver chandelier hanging from a chain presicely in the center. To work around this I have arranged to do the shoot when the chandelier is removed for cleaning in preparation for the village feast. I need to use slow film to permit a decent enlargement. Natural lighting is somewhat uneven. My flash setup is one AF500FTZ plus I can borrow 2 METZ CT60s I was thinking of a bulb exposure in total darkness and using multiple flash bursts to illuminate the interior. Suggestions please! This shoot will happen between now and August 6, the next chance for a re-shoot will be next year so I'd like to get it right first time! Rgds Patrick - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: pentax-discuss-digest V1 #869
I found some good advice back when I was just starting out in photography. The advice was to take risks with the camera in order to capture pictures one otherwise wouldn't get, just don't take stupid risks. I decided my camera was a tool for capturing images, and that I'd be a pretty frustrated photographer if I was too scared to use it. Having faced this myself, I can also understand the discomfort of taking a high valued setup into danger completely. I considered a protective case, but decided I'd be too scared to take my camera out of it's case. I also considered the point and shoot, but it just didn't feel right to me. I ended up with a $50 K-mount body and lens. Nowdays, I find myself mentally rating my equipment as to how much risk I'm willing to take with it. When faced with a situation like the boating, I'd match the equipment risk with the situation and then go out without further worries. If I ever lose that Sears body, I'll be heartbroken. Not because of how valuable it is to me, but because it has opened up a lot of photography to me that wouldn't otherwise be open. I'll miss the old friend. later, patbob ([EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Leon Altoff wrote: Need I say more? jeepgirl. I was the official photographer at our family's 3 day family reunion this weekend. ... I also had a blast trying to explain a hundred times why I wouldn't take my camera out in the boat to take pictures of xyz's kid ski-ing. or swimming. This is what Pelican cases were invented for. You take it onto the boat all nice and secure and when you know you are in a spot where you wont drop it you can take it out again. I quite often wave my camera around 2 inches above salt water, but I NEVER take what I consider to be any risks with it. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Batteries on MZ-5n
I have an MZ-5n with the external Battery Grip (AA-Battery Pack FG). Has anyone ever used this on NiMH rechargable batteries ? I apreceate the voltage difference between a Alkaline and a NiMH but, wouldnt an alkaline start to drop its voltage towards the end of its life yet the camera still functions correctly. Regards Patrick - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Tricky shot - need advice
- Original Message - From: Patrick Genovese Subject: Tricky shot - need advice Hi, I need advice on how to go about taking a rather tricky shot. The subject is the inside of a church dome with an exquisite pattern on the inside. Here are some problems/challenges that I face. The place is huge (approx 50 meters from the church floor to the dome's apex). The interior lighting is very problematic, a mxture ot tungsten and flourescent ligting of various types. I Want the shot to be symmetrical to enphasise the symmetry of the pattern. The problem with this is that there is a big silver chandelier hanging from a chain presicely in the center. To work around this I have arranged to do the shoot when the chandelier is removed for cleaning in preparation for the village feast. I need to use slow film to permit a decent enlargement. Natural lighting is somewhat uneven. My flash setup is one AF500FTZ plus I can borrow 2 METZ CT60s I was thinking of a bulb exposure in total darkness and using multiple flash bursts to illuminate the interior. Suggestions please! This shoot will happen between now and August 6, the next chance for a re-shoot will be next year so I'd like to get it right first time! I would use a couple of 500 watt yard lights to illuminate the dome, and an 80A filter to correct the colour. your exposure times will be fairly long with this sort of setup, but at least you will be able to see the effect of the lighting. William Robb Remember, the LX Gallery is coming up. Please see: http://pug.komkon.org/LX_Gallery/LX_Submit.html for more information. Submission deadline is June 30, 2001 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S; First impression
Nicholas wrote: What would be your opinion concerning how well the camera is sealed against the elements? I don't think its particularly sealed against the elements like eg. the LX. The early reports were obviously false. However, its much better sealed by the way its designed than the Z-1p; the latter is open by the two command dials. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Question about ZX5n Focusing Screen
If it's anything like the ZX-M, it's painfully easy. This works for the ZX-M: Take the lens off the camera, and at the front of the focus screen there is a gap in the metal frame that holds it in. Stick a small screw driver, tweezers, dental tool, etc. in there, and gently pull towards you. The metal frame will unhook, allowing you to drop and clean the focus screen. Reverse the process to put the screen back in the camera. Todd At 02:05 PM 6/20/01, you wrote: I seem to have gotten a little speck of dust/dirt on the top side of my ZX5n focusing screen. Its really annoying through the finder. On my LX, there's a hinged door that drops down so you can change/clean the focusing screen. Does anyone know if the screen on the ZX5n can be removed w/o damaging the camera? It looks similar, but I don't think there's a hinge like the LX. thanks! - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Tricky shot - need advice
You Are going to use the Pentax 67 to do this, of course! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of William Robb Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 1:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Tricky shot - need advice - Original Message - From: Patrick Genovese Subject: Tricky shot - need advice Hi, I need advice on how to go about taking a rather tricky shot. The subject is the inside of a church dome with an exquisite pattern on the inside. Here are some problems/challenges that I face. The place is huge (approx 50 meters from the church floor to the dome's apex). The interior lighting is very problematic, a mxture ot tungsten and flourescent ligting of various types. I Want the shot to be symmetrical to enphasise the symmetry of the pattern. The problem with this is that there is a big silver chandelier hanging from a chain presicely in the center. To work around this I have arranged to do the shoot when the chandelier is removed for cleaning in preparation for the village feast. I need to use slow film to permit a decent enlargement. Natural lighting is somewhat uneven. My flash setup is one AF500FTZ plus I can borrow 2 METZ CT60s I was thinking of a bulb exposure in total darkness and using multiple flash bursts to illuminate the interior. Suggestions please! This shoot will happen between now and August 6, the next chance for a re-shoot will be next year so I'd like to get it right first time! I would use a couple of 500 watt yard lights to illuminate the dome, and an 80A filter to correct the colour. your exposure times will be fairly long with this sort of setup, but at least you will be able to see the effect of the lighting. William Robb Remember, the LX Gallery is coming up. Please see: http://pug.komkon.org/LX_Gallery/LX_Submit.html for more information. Submission deadline is June 30, 2001 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Batteries on MZ-5n
On Wed, 20 Jun 2001 19:54:00 +0200, Patrick Genovese wrote: Has anyone ever used this on NiMH rechargable batteries ? I use the FG grip also. Pentax strongly advises in =not= using the NiMH batteries. I use the Ray-O-Vac alkalines in mine and have had absolutly zero problems. I apreceate the voltage difference between a Alkaline and a NiMH but, wouldnt an alkaline start to drop its voltage towards the end of its life yet the camera still functions correctly. I wrote an email to Pentax USA asking about the use of rechargable Alkalines in the FG. There response is below: == Gary, Thanks for contacting Pentax Corporation. Although we have no official test data to present, the factory has deemed the use of rechargeable alkaline batteries to be safe with the Battery Pack FG. We have heard of no adverse affects in using these batteries. We hope this helps. If you have any further questions, please feel free to contact our Customer Service Department at (800) 877-0155. Thanks again, Steve Tinetti Pentax Corporation -Original Message- From: Gary Murphy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 12:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:I know that using the NiMH or Form name: email-us Name Gary Murphy Email Address [EMAIL PROTECTED] Country US Inquiry I know that using the NiMH or NiCad rechargeable batteries can cause real problems in electronic devices due to the voltage differences, but was curious if Pentax has done any testing using the Ray-o-Vac alkaline rechargeables in the FG grip attached to the ZX-5n body. Will this cause trouble, and if so, what exactly can be damaged? Thanks! Product Battery Grip FG Purchase Date 5-2000 == Later, Gary - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
How loud should a LX MD be?
Hi. I use a motor drive on an LX now and then, and I was using it the other day for something in quite a small closed room. When I reached the end of the roll, and rewound the film, I was horrified at how loud the rewind was (The MD is none too quiet anyway), but it was considerably louder than my Z1p. I was wondering if this was normal? I haven't used the MD in a while, so its not fresh in my memory if this is something that was always there or not. Anyone out there have any thoughts on this? Thanks as always in advance. T. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: AF adapter 1.7x
The Pentax-F 1.7x adapter, I need to see the adapter again to write down exactly what it says on it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 12:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: AF adapter 1.7x In a message dated 6/20/01 11:13:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I believe they are asking $125 for it. Worth it? Is it useful? Etc., etc., etc. Are we talking about a 1.7X for autofocus, or the Pentax 1.7X autofocus adapter? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Graphics Pad?
On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, David A. Mann wrote: Juan J. Buhler writes: I use a Wacom Graphire USB (I'm not certain about the exact model name) -- It comes with a wireless mouse, and it is not very big at all, but enough to touch up images in Photoshop. I believe it also comes with a pen. Yes, of course. I meant besides the pen, it comes with a wireless mouse. Sorry. A guy at work recently bought an Intuos 4x5 tablet and he loves it. Apparently the Intuos offers better feel in addition to higher specs, as that series was designed for graphics professionals. I understand that you can get them in serial and USB versions, and they can work alongside your regular mouse. I don't know about the feel (haven't used the Intuos) but the Graphire also works alongside your regular mouse. I'm curious to know which version of Photoshop LE it comes with. I got 5.0LE with my scanner and if I can get a newer version for free with a tablet I might be even more tempted. Well, mine came with 5.0LE, since I got it last year. I would check, I think there's a newer version of PS LE, and chances are the tablet will include it. j -- --- Juan J. Buhler | Sr. FX Animator @ PDI | Photos at http://www.jbuhler.com --- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re[2]: I'm Back /Portland race shots
what is pelican, please ? is it handy ? From: Bob Walkden [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re[2]: I'm Back /Portland race shots Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 20:29:09 +0100 Hi, Maybe I'll get a Pelican case that can hold it, plus the rest of my gear. But at present I can (just) get everything else into carry-on. Perhaps I'm paranoid, but I'm not comfortable letting airport baggage handlers throw my expensive glass around. Sure, it's insured. But that's not going to help me fast enough. this is exactly why I bought my Pelican, and it is well suited for the purpose. If you lock it it is probably extremely difficult to get into without drilling or blow-torching, so they'd have to steal the whole case if they wanted something. --- Bob mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Tricky shot - need advice
I'd put a Sto-Fen Omnibounce on the AF500FTZ and use a lens wide enough to capture as much of the dome as you desire, i.e. if you need a fisheye, use one. The Sto-Fen will give good coverage down to a 16mm wide angle. I'd practice several shots (while the chandelier is there) and see what the results look like so as to be ready for when the chandelier is taken down. The FA 20-35mm f/4 might be a good choice of lens to try, too. Hey, if a 50mm will cover what you want, use it. Same goes for longer focal lengths. Len -Original Message- From: Patrick Genovese [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 12:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Tricky shot - need advice Hi, I need advice on how to go about taking a rather tricky shot. The subject is the inside of a church dome with an exquisite pattern on the inside. Here are some problems/challenges that I face. The place is huge (approx 50 meters from the church floor to the dome's apex). The interior lighting is very problematic, a mxture ot tungsten and flourescent ligting of various types. I Want the shot to be symmetrical to enphasise the symmetry of the pattern. The problem with this is that there is a big silver chandelier hanging from a chain presicely in the center. To work around this I have arranged to do the shoot when the chandelier is removed for cleaning in preparation for the village feast. I need to use slow film to permit a decent enlargement. Natural lighting is somewhat uneven. My flash setup is one AF500FTZ plus I can borrow 2 METZ CT60s I was thinking of a bulb exposure in total darkness and using multiple flash bursts to illuminate the interior. Suggestions please! This shoot will happen between now and August 6, the next chance for a re-shoot will be next year so I'd like to get it right first time! Rgds Patrick - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
New Metz Flash
Today we rec'd the new Metz 54MZ3 in Pentax, and Nikon fittings. I have not had time to examine in detail, however suffice it to say that I am impressed with the build quality, but must spend several hours with the instruction book. It's significantly different to the 40MZ series, in basic design, and info input. The MZ-S is not mentioned as one might expect, however the flash does claim full sync among the many features. I will let you all know as I have more time. Kind regards Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re[2]: I'm Back /Portland race shots
A pelican is a bird, not too handy, unless you're a hungry crocodile. A Pelican case is a brand name for cases that are built tough to protect expensive fragile gear, and have foam inside that can be custom carved to your equipment. Very handy. Cheers, Gerald - Original Message - From: Anand DHUPKAR [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 11:30 AM Subject: Re: Re[2]: I'm Back /Portland race shots what is pelican, please ? is it handy ? From: Bob Walkden [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re[2]: I'm Back /Portland race shots Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 20:29:09 +0100 Hi, Maybe I'll get a Pelican case that can hold it, plus the rest of my gear. But at present I can (just) get everything else into carry-on. Perhaps I'm paranoid, but I'm not comfortable letting airport baggage handlers throw my expensive glass around. Sure, it's insured. But that's not going to help me fast enough. this is exactly why I bought my Pelican, and it is well suited for the purpose. If you lock it it is probably extremely difficult to get into without drilling or blow-torching, so they'd have to steal the whole case if they wanted something. --- Bob mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S; First impression
Hello All wrong, I bought nothing today because the MZ-S is not avaible again in France ... But, as Obiwan said to Luke: Patience, patience, Use the fork... 8-) See you [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Question about ZX5n Focusing Screen
K C wrote: I seem to have gotten a little speck of dust/dirt on the top side of my ZX5n focusing screen. Its really annoying through the finder. On my LX, there's a hinged door that drops down so you can change/clean the focusing screen. Does anyone know if the screen on the ZX5n can be removed w/o damaging the camera? It looks similar, but I don't think there's a hinge like the LX. William Robb replied The MZ-5n does not have a user interchangable screen, in theory. Apparently the frame that holds the screen is help in place with two tiny screws that are fairly easy to get at though. Having grown up on a Super Program which has been replaced with a ZX-5n, I've always wanted to replace the focusing screen on the ZX-5n. Is it really feasible to use the ZX-M screen on a ZX-5n? I would be very interested in this repair. _ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Re[2]: I'm Back /Portland race shots
It is a nice, expensive, hard case for carrying camera equipment. Otherwise, it's a bird whose beak can hold more than his belly can. :-) Whether it's handy or not, is kind of subjective. If you really need one, it's definitely handy. Len --- -Original Message- From: Anand DHUPKAR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 1:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re[2]: I'm Back /Portland race shots what is pelican, please ? is it handy ? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Darkroom Horror
Shel, Thanks for the info. It's odd, really. When I did some T-Max there were no bubbles. Only on Tri-X. I've learned since that the Yankee 4x5 daylight tank is notorious for being bubble-tolerant. Also, the identical instruction was gotten from the LF guy at Midwest Photo here in Columbus. Apparently, horizontal agitation is inadequate. Collin * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Bodies Roll Call Results UPDATE 98
Just Cesar's new MZ S (you know, the camera found in 98 percent of PDML messages) Please send the messages to me directly, to not disturb other members, thanks. Also, I've not included 110 and digital cameras, just because I started this way, and I didn't want to change in the middle of the way. Also, if you already submited and want to add new items, please put clearly in your message: this is not my first submission, so I don't put you twice in the total answers. Thanks to all contributors. TOTAL ANSWERS: 386 members MANUAL FOCUS: Screw Mount: - Asahiflex IIa3 - Asahiflex IIb2 - Asahi Pentax (AP)3 - K2 - SL...8 - SV...9 - S1...1 - S1a.10 - S2...1 - S3...3 - SP500...10 - SP1000..11 - Spotmatic...32 - Spotmatic II13 - Spotmatic IIa1 - Spotmatic SP27 - Spotmatic SP II..9 - Spotmatic F.33 - Spotmatic F MD...2 - Spotmatic MD.3 - ES..15 - ES II...20 - ElectroSpotmatic.3 - H1...2 - H1a..5 - H2...4 - H3...7 - H3v..5 Bayonette: - KM14 - KX41 - KX MD..1 - K233 - K2 DMD.9 - K1000.72 - K1000 SE...9 - MX...118 - ME38 - ME SE..2 - ME Super.117 - ME Super SE4 - MV.6 - MV11 - MG12 - LX...134 - Super Program.69 - Super A...41 - Program Plus..17 - Program A.10 - A3000..3 - A3.2 - A3(date)...1 - P3.7 - P3n8 - P308 - P30n...1 - P30t..12 - P5.8 - P502 - ZX M..19 - MZ M..10 AUTOFOCUS: - ME F..12 - SF 1...6 - SFX3 - SF 1n..6 - SFXn..10 - SF 7...2 - SF 10..6 - PZ 1..18 - PZ 1 SE2 - Z124 - PZ 1p.66 - Z1p...40 - PZ 10..5 - Z 10...2 - PZ 20.11 - Z 20...4 - Z 50p..2 - PZ 70..6 - Z 70...1 - Z5.1 - MZ 3..18 - ZX 5..10 - MZ 5..13 - ZX 5n.53 - MZ 5n.35 - ZX 7...9 - MZ 7...6 - ZX 10..9 - MZ 10.13 - ZX 30..7 - MZ 30..1 - ZX 50..7 - MZ 50..7 - MZ S...2 MEDIUM FORMAT: - 64517 - 645n3 - 6x712 - 67..9 - 67 II...7 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S; First impression
From: Rob Brigham What made you change your mind PentaxClover? What finally sold it to you? Or did you just say 'what the heck...' Rob Brigham In fact, I am not very satisfy with my MZ-3, so I wish to buy the MZ-S to replace it !!! I am working on a bargain, but for the moment, the SLR is not avaible in France. My MZ-3 is going to be used as a PS, so I will not mind what can happen to it !!! GEEE 8-) PS: Still waiting for a better SLR also _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S impressions
Gianfranco wrote: It is definitely small, and ... I keep hearing that the MZ-S is small but the first thing I noticed was how big it was. My MZ-S has the same height as my LX (top of prism). However, the MZ-S has higher shoulders so volumetrically its higher than the LX. The MZ-S is about 1cm shorter in length than the LX but its about half a centimetre wider (base plate). The MZ-S is volumetrically larger than the LX and side by side it also appears larger than the LX. People who are used to ME, MX or SuperA won't consider the MZ-S small. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Colour-presentation of Pentax lenses compared to Other Brands
Todd wrote: Also, you say that he is using FD lenses on a EF body. To do that you need an adaptor. Actually the Canon EF is an FD mount, pre AE-1 model contemporary with the Pentax K2. If anything, Pentax lenses are considered slightly warm. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Traveling in Deutschland
Dear German PDMLers, Sorry to hi-jack this thread, but I have a few questions that are bothering me. I've been visiting Darmstadt for the past month or so and before I came, I got all excited about the supposedly cheap camera gear here. I guess I must have been unlucky because Darmstadt doesn't seem to have many good camera stores. (Noone here's heard of the Voigtlaender!) So my question is, where do German PDMLers shop for their camera gear? I've found technikdirekt.de but since it only costs a tiny bit more to ship to the UK, it kinda defeats the purpose of me picking up some cheap gear whilst I'm here. Also - heresy alert - would I be correct to assume that the Voigtlaender Bessa cameras and lenses are cheaper here than in the UK? And if so, where would I find them? Sorry if I've offended the Pentax users here, but my lust for wider lenses has driven me to the option of range-finder-style cameras. But fear not, I do own two ME Supers, one MX, winders for all three, plus eight SMC Pentax lenses. Yours, Frank. -- Francis Tang, Postgraduate Research Student, LFCS, Edinburgh. Visiting: AG14, FB Mathematik, TU Darmstadt, Deutschland. Tel: +49 174/3545241 (D2 Voda) ZNr: S215/215 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.dcs.ed.ac.uk/home/fhlt/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: MZ-S impressions
Pål, I think this comes from looking and handling the competitors' cameras that rival the MZ-S. They are huge and weighty. You have come to expect top of the line cameras to be that way. Therefore, the MZ-S, when first viewed and lifted is small. I have had at least five people who are not into photography - beyond point and shoot or old SLRs - all comment on the diminutive size of the MZ-S. César Matamoros II Panama City, Florida -Original Message- From: Pål Jensen [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 5:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MZ-S impressions Gianfranco wrote: It is definitely small, and ... I keep hearing that the MZ-S is small but the first thing I noticed was how big it was. My MZ-S has the same height as my LX (top of prism). However, the MZ-S has higher shoulders so volumetrically its higher than the LX. The MZ-S is about 1cm shorter in length than the LX but its about half a centimetre wider (base plate). The MZ-S is volumetrically larger than the LX and side by side it also appears larger than the LX. People who are used to ME, MX or SuperA won't consider the MZ-S small. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
