Re: Favorite Film Roll Call Results UPDATE 15
Aaron Reynolds writes: > That's how I feel when I see the Favorite Lens listings...poor lonely > SMC-A* 200mm f2.8...sniff... If I actually owned one I might vote for it :) I haven't voted because I can't decide... I need to use them all more! Cheers, - Dave David A. Mann, B.E. (Elec) http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ "Why is it that if an adult behaves like a child they lock him up, while children are allowed to run free on the streets?" -- Garfield - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: "My trip" or "Cameras big and small"
Jody writes: > It was about now that I wished I had a longer lens. > This was not motivated by jealousy. It was just that > at this point (½ hour out of Wellington) I discovered > there was a picture-postcard view of Mount Cook and > the Southern Alps in the distance. Mount Cook is the > highest peak in NZ. You can't usually see it from the > ferry, as it is in the South Island, and usually > covered by cloud I guess. The cloud was up higher > today. Are you sure it was Mount Cook? I don't think you can see that far south from just above sea level. Mt Cook is down near Lake Pukaki which is a very long way south of Cook Straight. I might know the mountain you could see; I just don't know its name. I could see it while mountain biking just out of Blenheim recently. I'm glad you finally came to your senses and came to the South Island where all the scenery is. I guess you've gone back now, unfortunately. If you want to cure that lens envy you got on the ferry, I know where you can get a SMCK 1000mm f/8, complete with wooden tripod and aluminium case. Only NZ$4450, what a bargain :) > Then I took another bus for two hours to arrive in > Nelson. I had a look around town today. There are > quite a few promising camera shops. I saw an SMC A28 > in one. I forget the minimum aperture. It was NZ$120. > Maybe US$280-300. Is this a good price? Is it a good > lens? I don't have a 28 yet. Do I need one? Bookmark this: http://home.att.net/~alnem/html/pentax_primes.html A 28mm is quite useful. The price sounds rather good; I think I paid about that for a Takumar-A 28 f/2.8 which wasn't the greatest of Pentax lenses. I ended up replacing it with an SMCP 24/2.8 (NZ$350) which soon after I traded on a secondhand FA*24/2 ($600 including the $300 trade for the 24/2.8). So if you want to go wide, you might have a pretty good option there for the money. For all I know, the one in the shop might be the same one I sold :) Cheers, - Dave David A. Mann, B.E. (Elec) http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ "Why is it that if an adult behaves like a child they lock him up, while children are allowed to run free on the streets?" -- Garfield - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Bodies Roll Call Results UPDATE 102
Woah, and it's not even Friday . . . . yet petit miam wrote: > Yes, I have the invisible edition LX . But I > haven't managed any photos with it yet. The negatives > seem to come out grossly underexposed, perhaps because > the invisible winder LX is not very effective. Maybe > it is not even winding the film. But the lens is > great. It is invisible SMC and when you look through > it, it is like there is no galss there. > > Jody. > > > Does anyone on the list have any special edition > > LX's of any kind? > > chris > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Update: Ricoh Winder from eBay
James, Looks like either she, her packer, or the person who sold her the shipping messed up. Anything going out of country would need a packing slip/explanation on the outside of the box. This isn't your fault, and you shouldn't pay for it. I'm not entirely convinced she should pay for it either. . . . whoever sold her the shipping should have noted it was to a different country and told her it would need a description on the outside. It sounds to me as if your package never made it past customs because of this. Did the seller (assuming ebay) list it as 'will ship internationally'? If so, this pretty much assumes that she has experience/knowldge doing so, and SHE is responsible for the re-shipping, not you. All this theory may be worth an Australian penny though (see other recent threads). She may decide that it's your duty to pay . . . if so, maybe it's best to suggest to her to meet you half way on it. Just my $0.02 (American of course) Illinois Bill jmadams wrote: > My excitment at finding a Winder for my KR10, has taken a bashing. I > received an email from the sender saying she had had it returned by the > receiver's (Me) shipping department as 'refused - returned to sender' as > there was no invoice or customs declaration. She was pissed that she had to > repack and reship and expected me to fork out for postage and insurance > again. > > I received the following email (edited) as managed to rebuild my system > after nearly loosing my HD after a virus attack. > > James, I have the box with the winder which was returned marked "need Custom > Invoice, Value & Description" written on the box. What do you want to do? > Loreen > > Am I correct that it was Canadian Customs that returned the package, and if > so the shipper should pay the postage and insurance. > > James > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Ignorant Ebay Seller
In a message dated 16/07/01 03:35:59 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << James, I have the box with the winder which was returned marked "need Custom Invoice, Value & Description" written on the box. What do you want to do? Loreen Am I correct that it was Canadian Customs that returned the package, and if so the shipper should pay the postage and insurance. >> James - you are entirely correct. She neglected to supply the requisite paperwork & now tries to blame you. So it appears. Kind regards Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: LX Finder
In a message dated 11/07/01 21:28:59 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Anyone want to sell a finder for an LX? I was blading last night and took a spill, landing on my ever-present LX, snug in its padded bag, 35-105 f/3.5 attached. Only the pentaprism was damaged, as well as the lens atop the focusing screen. I have it in for an estimate at Pentax Vancouver, where an ex-list member is ow the service manager. I can bet those finders are not cheap through Pentax, so if anyone wants to sell one, please let me know. >> Mike - if you can gamble that only the outer surface is damaged - we have the replacement outer "skin" for the FA1/w from stock GBP30. Kind regards Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Near Disaster
Hi, I was doing some testing of my Pentax 645 and the 75mm LS lens that I would use a few hours later to photograph a wedding. It would be an outdoor wedding and I needed the LS for the higher synch speed it would give me when using my 400T Pentax flash. Suddenly, the flash and the LS were not in synch when I tripped the shutter. Then I noticed that the leaf shutter wasn't even opening. What to do? Thank goodness the 645 has a PC connector that I was able to hook up a conventional Sunpak flash. Shooting at 1/60 was a bit limiting but I was able to do the formals with the 645 and the standard 75mm lens. Unfortunately, the breakdown of the LS 75mm is on top of the breakdown of my 150mm 645 lens.I didn't know the 150 was malfunctioning until I got overexposed prints back. So, is Colorado the best place to send the LS for repair? Is there another authorize Pentax repair facility that is better? Jim A. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Why I won't be buying an MZ-S, and other ramblings with a rantat the very end.
On Mon, 16 Jul 2001, Doug Brewer wrote: > ... the f** LCD panel ... Wow, I can't get the one I saw to do that. Do you need two MZ-S's to take advantage of that feature? > The DOF preview button is, in my opinion, in the perfect place, and I > don't know why nobody thought of putting it there before now. My > PZ-1p, LX and MZ-S have the DOFP in different places, so I don't guess > I have the same feeling of continuity you have. To be fair, the Super Program, LX, and even MZ-5n all put the DOFP in roughly the same place, so it's just the upper-end AF bodies that are changing its position. That being said, I like where it is on the MZ-S; it makes sense (to me) to put it there on an AF body. > >So I won't be buying an MZ-S. It wouldn't make me a better > >photographer. Just a lazier one. It seems an odd beast. > >Everything is there for it to be a great modern camera. It has > >lots of buttons and gizmos. It beeps. It has PF. Lots of PF. > >None of this will make better pictures. The picture is still > >between me and the subject. The camera is something in between. > >I think the less between me and the picture, the better. > > I never understand this. Why is it mandatory on this list to insult > anything we don't understand, and by association, those who do bother > to understand it? Though I ripped into Bill a bit for some snobbish generalizations, I didn't have a problem with this paragraph, since he was talking about how well the MZ-S would (or wouldn't) work for him as an individual. I think it's fine to say that X wouldn't make *me* a better photographer or that it's not suited to *my* needs, but I don't see the point in generalizing these criticisms to apply to everyone who might use the camera. chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Why I won't be buying an MZ-S, and other ramblings with arant at the very end.
Hoo boy, even though all of you have probably had quite enough of my prattling on... see below At 4:46 PM -06007/15/01, William Robb got all liquored up and shouted: >So, with much trepidation, I went off to see the MZ-S on Friday. >Nice camera. It seems really solid, much more so than the >Mincanniks that it competes with. It wasn't overly large, which >the Mincanniks most certainly are. They didn't have a battery >grip for it, so I only got to see it with the lithioids running >it. I thought they were Nicanoltax.. >I liked where most of the buttons were, but there seems to be a >lot of them. Yes, there are a number of optional controls. I went out yesterday and shot three rolls of film with my MZ-S, and can tell you that two (2) of the controls saw anything close to regular use. They were the shutter button and the exposure compensation dial. hmm. Imagine that. The other controls are there in case you want to use them. That bears repeating: The other controls are there in case you want to use them. People who do not use modern cameras, when writing about modern cameras, always insist that they have a thousand controls, and that EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEM MUST BE ADDRESSED AND ADJUSTED BEFORE EACH AND EVERY PHOTO IS MADE. Horsefeathers. If you want to light up the fucking LCD panel, push the LCD light button. Otherwise, ignore it. Having the AF fire up from a separate button is >kind of cool, though I don't know what purpose it serves. >Perhaps with the battery grip on, you need it. Choosing an AF >sensor was pretty easy, though why they put the switch where the >depth of field preview should be is beyond me. On that note, a >camera with depth of field preview is really nice in this era of >mindless photography. Nice touch to have it on this camera, but >the switch is in the wrong place for me. >I suspect I could get used to it pretty quickly, but this is one >of those things that they should try to keep the same from >camera to camera, and from era to era. The DOF preview button is, in my opinion, in the perfect place, and I don't know why nobody thought of putting it there before now. My PZ-1p, LX and MZ-S have the DOFP in different places, so I don't guess I have the same feeling of continuity you have. >The camera was very easy to use on manual and aperture preferred >automatic, which makes me happy, as those are my preferred >methods of choosing exposure. >Then I ran into something called PF. PF is the noise a leaky >tire makes. There seemed to be a lot of PF. I think I counted 20 >of them. Very inscrutable, just PF this and PF that, with no >clue given as to what they are. Hmmm, this is not good. I recall >this was why I didn't like the PZ-1 and it's ilk too. What's the big deal? The PF's let you customize the camera for the way you shoot. You set them and forget them. How is this difficult? >The camera seems very quiet, though very high pitched. I think I >will take Leica to the store next week some time and see if the >noise it makes bothers her. It's a distinctive sound, for sure. It sounds, I dunno, =efficient= to me. >So I won't be buying an MZ-S. It wouldn't make me a better >photographer. Just a lazier one. It seems an odd beast. >Everything is there for it to be a great modern camera. It has >lots of buttons and gizmos. It beeps. It has PF. Lots of PF. >None of this will make better pictures. The picture is still >between me and the subject. The camera is something in between. >I think the less between me and the picture, the better. I never understand this. Why is it mandatory on this list to insult anything we don't understand, and by association, those who do bother to understand it? >Thanks >William Robb Doug -- Douglas Forrest Brewer Ashwood Lake Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.alphoto.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Why I won't be buying an MZ-S, and other ramblings with a rantat the very end.
On Sun, 15 Jul 2001, William Robb wrote: > I suppose the question would be this: Is it harder to learn how to use > and remember how to operate a simple camera, such as the LX or an > Asahiflex, or a camera with 20 inscrutable functions, and a plethora > of buttons and switches with little pictographs beside them that are > supposed to identify their function? Manual photography is not rocket > science, but running these cameras is getting close. True enough. At the same time, people wanting no-brainer cameras don't have to worry any more about lining up exposure needles as long as they can remember to put their auto-everything camera in its green auto mode and let it do everything. Easier in some ways, but not in others. Will auto-everything cameras make it easier for people who understand photography to take better photos? In some cases, yes, but not always. Sometimes they can allow shots to be captured that couldn't before, but other times they can just confuse the matter, as you point out. My point, if I have one, is that auto-everything cameras can make life a lot easier for people who know nothing about photography and who use cameras as a simplifying tool in much the same way that we'd use things like automatic transmissions instead of standards, word-processing programs instead of typewriters, and calculators instead of abacuses. chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Update: Ricoh Winder from eBay
On Sun, 15 Jul 2001, William Robb wrote: > And maybe she will never ship to the third world again after the > PDML gets going about it. > Wheatfield Willie returns! *L* Shall I cast the first letter or shall you? :) chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Why I won't be buying an MZ-S, and other ramblings with a rant at the ver...
I think my best photos come from my manual gear (LX and MX). Although there are some situations where i do need the autofocus of my 5n, if i'm shooting fast moving subjects. I think when using the manual gear i am in a whole different mind set. I take my time and think about the shot more, i also think in advance more. I definately feel more productive when using my LX and MX. I only ever use primes on my manual focus bodies, I really cant stand manual focus zooms. Cyas - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 2:03 PM Subject: Re: Why I won't be buying an MZ-S, and other ramblings with a rant at the ver... > William...You sound worn-out by demon "progress"... >I've often thought of assembling a group of 10 photographers: >5 seasoned enthusiasts with K-1000's / f2.0 50mm >5 yuppies with $1500 anythings / Tamron 28-300mm >and setting them loose on N.Y. City ,each with one roll of > 36 exposure film-of their-choice. > I suspect the subjective & objective quality of photographs > at the end-of-day signal would be HEAVILY in favor of the > K-1000 group (with of course a few lucky pops from group-2) > because: > 1. the "eye of the photographer" factor is more important > than "43-point autofocus" > 2. anticipation of an event is more important than a high FPS >motor drive. > 3. enthusiam and love of the craft outlast any high-drain > lithium battery pack. > 4. a K-1000 can be used as an effective self-defense weapon > in N.Y.C. > Relax Bill...I've seen your work in the gallery...handing you > an MZ-S would be like handing a fine cabinetmaker an > electric screwdriver...(Although if I hit the Powerball lottery >this week I'm gonna send ya one...) >Best Regards...Bob > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Why I won't be buying an MZ-S, and other ramblings with a rant at the ver...
William...You sound worn-out by demon "progress"... I've often thought of assembling a group of 10 photographers: 5 seasoned enthusiasts with K-1000's / f2.0 50mm 5 yuppies with $1500 anythings / Tamron 28-300mm and setting them loose on N.Y. City ,each with one roll of 36 exposure film-of their-choice. I suspect the subjective & objective quality of photographs at the end-of-day signal would be HEAVILY in favor of the K-1000 group (with of course a few lucky pops from group-2) because: 1. the "eye of the photographer" factor is more important than "43-point autofocus" 2. anticipation of an event is more important than a high FPS motor drive. 3. enthusiam and love of the craft outlast any high-drain lithium battery pack. 4. a K-1000 can be used as an effective self-defense weapon in N.Y.C. Relax Bill...I've seen your work in the gallery...handing you an MZ-S would be like handing a fine cabinetmaker an electric screwdriver...(Although if I hit the Powerball lottery this week I'm gonna send ya one...) Best Regards...Bob - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Why I won't be buying an MZ-S, and other ramblings with a rant at the very end.
- Original Message - From: "martin tammer" Subject: Re: Why I won't be buying an MZ-S, and other ramblings with a rant at the very end. > A very fine photographer friend of mine purchased a Canon digital outfit. > About $2,000 and obviously full of features. Bottom line is that he said > after a while he no longer felt like a photographer, but a digital > processor, to use his words. He sold the equipment and has gone back to his > LX and manual lenses, and sez he feels like a photographer again. > There's a lesson in this story some where. And there is a place for this type of camera, just like there is a place for cameras such as the MZ-S or its competitors. There are people out there who truly need the automation or now the digitalization to get the job done. But that is not most of us. At least, I don't think it is. Sometimes, though, I think people get caught up in the "must have" marketing hype, and forget about what it is about what they do that matters. For myself, controlling every step of the photographic process is important. This is why I tend to use simple cameras, and I suspect it is why I became a photofinisher for a living. God knows, it wasn't for the paycheque. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Why I won't be buying an MZ-S, and other ramblings with a rant at the very end.
A very fine photographer friend of mine purchased a Canon digital outfit. About $2,000 and obviously full of features. Bottom line is that he said after a while he no longer felt like a photographer, but a digital processor, to use his words. He sold the equipment and has gone back to his LX and manual lenses, and sez he feels like a photographer again. There's a lesson in this story some where. --- William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "Chris Brogden" > Subject: Re: Why I won't be buying an MZ-S, and other ramblings > with a rant at the very end. > > > > > Manual photography is similarly a skill that comparatively few > people want > > (or, arguably, need). > > I suppose the question would be this: Is it harder to learn how > to use and remember how to operate a simple camera, such as the > LX or an Asahiflex, or a camera with 20 inscrutable functions, > and a plethora of buttons and switches with little pictographs > beside them that are supposed to identify their function? > Manual photography is not rocket science, but running these > cameras is getting close. > William Robb > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Stolen Pentax Equipment
Unfortunately most buyers won't even look there. They assume that the stuff they are getting is legitimate. I aught to know I bought a stolen lens on e-bay. The first I found out about it was when I was contacted by the Police in the jurisdiction where the lens was stolen. Lucky for me the victim just wanted the guilty party prosecuted and only wanted a deposition from me. If they had asked for the lens back I would have felt honor bound to return it. At 07:33 PM 7/15/2001 -0700, you wrote: >Thanks Scott >I went to Photo.net and listed my equipment. >I don't have any hope of seeing it again but >at least I can make it as difficult as possible >for these crooks to get rid of my stuff. > >-=Mike=- >In the Pacific Northwet > >- Original Message - >From: "Dan Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2001 6:37 PM >Subject: Re: Stolen Pentax Equipment > > >| Hi MIke, >| >| Sorry to hear about your loss. www.photo.net has a stolen equipment >registry. >| >| Good luck with your insurance company. >| >| Dan Scott >| [EMAIL PROTECTED] >| > > >- >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Update: Ricoh Winder from eBay
And maybe she will never ship to the third world again after the PDML gets going about it. Wheatfield Willie returns! - Original Message - From: "Chris Brogden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: July 15, 2001 8:26 PM Subject: Re: Update: Ricoh Winder from eBay > On Sun, 15 Jul 2001, jmadams wrote: > > > James, I have the box with the winder which was returned marked "need Custom > > Invoice, Value & Description" written on the box. What do you want to do? > > Loreen > > It's definitely the shipper's job to mail the item properly. She can > chalk it up as a learning experience that will save her from making > similar problems in the future. Yes, she should definitely pay for > reshipping the item if that's necessary. Just a thought... if the item > wasn't actually mailed because the relevant info wasn't there, then maybe > she won't have to pay shipping again. > > chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Why I won't be buying an MZ-S, and other ramblings with a rant at the very end.
- Original Message - From: "Chris Brogden" Subject: Re: Why I won't be buying an MZ-S, and other ramblings with a rant at the very end. > Manual photography is similarly a skill that comparatively few people want > (or, arguably, need). I suppose the question would be this: Is it harder to learn how to use and remember how to operate a simple camera, such as the LX or an Asahiflex, or a camera with 20 inscrutable functions, and a plethora of buttons and switches with little pictographs beside them that are supposed to identify their function? Manual photography is not rocket science, but running these cameras is getting close. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: "My trip" or "Cameras big and small"
At 07:07 PM 7/15/2001 -0700, Jody wrote: >Just wanted to tell you about my "big" trip. I decided >to take the scenic route over two days instead of >flying in a couple of hours. Yes, there is camera >stuff in there too, and even Pentax camera stuff. > >Day 1, Saturday 14th July 2001. >Then I had my usual attack of the clumsies and cut my >toe on the step out of the shower. There was a lot of >blood around. But I didn't think to take a photo. >Besides I didn't want any of you males to faint at the >sight. I only faint at the sight of my own blood. I don't have a problem with other people's blood. >quite a few promising camera shops. I saw an SMC A28 >in one. I forget the minimum aperture. It was NZ$120. >Maybe US$280-300. Is this a good price? Is it a good >lens? I don't have a 28 yet. Do I need one? You've got the exchange rate backwards. That's a very good price maybe $40 to $60 US off the top of my head. >Jody. Sounds like you had a good trip. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Why I won't be buying an MZ-S, and other ramblings with a rant at the very end.
I must say, I really liked your thinking about photography. That turned out to be a reason for not buying MZ-S ... it is not a big thing. What is important is ... making pictures and to that extent anything coming in between is an obstacle to be avoided. Once agin, I liked the thinking. Anand >From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: "Pentax Discuss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Why I won't be buying an MZ-S, and other ramblings with a rant at >the very end. >Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 16:46:33 -0600 > >So, with much trepidation, I went off to see the MZ-S on Friday. >Nice camera. It seems really solid, much more so than the >Mincanniks that it competes with. It wasn't overly large, which >the Mincanniks most certainly are. They didn't have a battery >grip for it, so I only got to see it with the lithioids running >it. >I liked where most of the buttons were, but there seems to be a >lot of them. Having the AF fire up from a separate button is >kind of cool, though I don't know what purpose it serves. >Perhaps with the battery grip on, you need it. Choosing an AF >sensor was pretty easy, though why they put the switch where the >depth of field preview should be is beyond me. On that note, a >camera with depth of field preview is really nice in this era of >mindless photography. Nice touch to have it on this camera, but >the switch is in the wrong place for me. >I suspect I could get used to it pretty quickly, but this is one >of those things that they should try to keep the same from >camera to camera, and from era to era. >The camera was very easy to use on manual and aperture preferred >automatic, which makes me happy, as those are my preferred >methods of choosing exposure. >Then I ran into something called PF. PF is the noise a leaky >tire makes. There seemed to be a lot of PF. I think I counted 20 >of them. Very inscrutable, just PF this and PF that, with no >clue given as to what they are. Hmmm, this is not good. I recall >this was why I didn't like the PZ-1 and it's ilk too. >The camera seems very quiet, though very high pitched. I think I >will take Leica to the store next week some time and see if the >noise it makes bothers her. >Over all, it did feel quite comfortable in my hands, but I >didn't fall in love it. >It is no LX in that regard. >Perhaps I am just a Luddite, although I do like my wife's MZ-5. >It reminds me of a Super Program with autofocus, although not a >solidly constructed. It doesn't have PF. >I walked into the store hoping that the MZ-S would not be a >modernized LX. I was hoping this because I am not in a financial >position to buy one, although I would have if I had liked it >enough. As it was, I found the MZ-S to be a very nice camera, >but more camera than I need in many respects, and less camera >than I would want in a few respects. >It is no LX replacement though. >I think the slow drive speed will hurt it, not because it needs >faster than 2.5 fps, but because it is eclipsed by the >competition in this area, and we have been led to believe that >drive speed is important. >I was taught that it is more important to push the button at the >right time, and that motor drives usually meant you had a shot >taken slightly before, and slightly after the one you wanted. My >experience with them has proven this to be true in many picture >taking situations. >They didn't have a new prime lens to go on it, and seemed >dismayed when I insisted they put a prime on. The only one they >had was a used 50mm f/1.7 (which I bought for 50 bucks, so now >my >wife has a prime lens for her MZ-5, but Don's photo no longer >has a prime lens in the store). >And they call themselves a pro shop. >Does no one use primes any more? I noticed that all they had for >all their cameras were zooms. >How can you take a good picture with that little discipline? Ah >well, that is what people want, I guess. >Make it fast and easy, no one wants to work at it now. >I find this very sad. People look at my pictures and say I must >have a really good camera. >Like as if that matters. >I am sure Mordecai Richler had a good typewriter. >I wonder if there is a market for a person to hire himself out >as a vacation photographer? It seems like just one small step >further down the road from where the market is now. >It might be a good way to see the world. >So I won't be buying an MZ-S. It wouldn't make me a better >photographer. Just a lazier one. It seems an odd beast. >Everything is there for it to be a great modern camera. It has >lots of buttons and gizmos. It beeps. It has PF. Lots of PF. >None of this will make better pictures. The picture is still >between me and the subject. The camera is something in between. >I think the less between me and the picture, the better. >Thanks >William Robb > > > > >- >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http
Re: Help With Lenses
Are you sure of this? The only non-Pentax lenses I'm aware of in the line are the 80-200 Tamron and the 100/3.5 macro. Doug At 7:49 PM -05007/15/01, Todd Stanley got all liquored up and shouted: >>I am looking at various newer pentax alternatives including: >>28-80 f3.5/5.6 SMCP-FA (to replace 3. ) > >This is a Tamron rebadge, and it's OK. I would get the FA 28-70mm F4, or >the new FA 24-90mm - both are way better lenses. > -- Douglas Forrest Brewer Ashwood Lake Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.alphoto.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Stolen Pentax Equipment
Thanks Scott I went to Photo.net and listed my equipment. I don't have any hope of seeing it again but at least I can make it as difficult as possible for these crooks to get rid of my stuff. -=Mike=- In the Pacific Northwet - Original Message - From: "Dan Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2001 6:37 PM Subject: Re: Stolen Pentax Equipment | Hi MIke, | | Sorry to hear about your loss. www.photo.net has a stolen equipment registry. | | Good luck with your insurance company. | | Dan Scott | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Help With Lenses
At 08:11 PM 7/15/01 -0400, you wrote: >I am looking at various newer pentax alternatives including: >28-80 f3.5/5.6 SMCP-FA (to replace 3. ) Consider the Pentax 28-70/4AL or /2.8AL >80-200 f4.7/5.6 SMCP-FA (to replace 4. ) Perhaps the Tokina ATX PRO 80-200/2.8? >50 f 1.7 SMCP-FA (to replace 2. ) Go ahead, get the 1.4. If you're going to spend the money ... >80-320 f4.5/5.6 SMCP-FA (to replace 4. ) Spend more on the others and just get a 1.4x TC to extend 200mm. >Macro 100 f3.5 SMCP-FA (cause it would be nice to have, though dont know >that i can afford it right now) I'd recommend that you get some extension tubes and a non-macro lens. >50 f2 SMCP-A (not autofocus, but at least gives me the A) (to replace 2. ) Always useful to have around, but your earlier 50mm will give you that as well. >TIA > >JJ Collin * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Update: Ricoh Winder from eBay
On Sun, 15 Jul 2001, jmadams wrote: > James, I have the box with the winder which was returned marked "need Custom > Invoice, Value & Description" written on the box. What do you want to do? > Loreen It's definitely the shipper's job to mail the item properly. She can chalk it up as a learning experience that will save her from making similar problems in the future. Yes, she should definitely pay for reshipping the item if that's necessary. Just a thought... if the item wasn't actually mailed because the relevant info wasn't there, then maybe she won't have to pay shipping again. chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: "My trip" or "Cameras big and small"
Its actualy about $50us, which is not a bad price. Cya - Original Message - From: "petit miam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discuss Pentax" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 12:07 PM Subject: "My trip" or "Cameras big and small" > Just wanted to tell you about my "big" trip. I decided > to take the scenic route over two days instead of > flying in a couple of hours. Yes, there is camera > stuff in there too, and even Pentax camera stuff. > > Day 1, Saturday 14th July 2001. > > Got on the bus in my home-town of Gisborne, NZ. Took 4 > hour bus trip to Napier. Pretty uneventful and I hate > travelling by bus. Then I hopped on the train. This > track is in danger of closing due to recent politics, > and privatisation of rail services. They stopped > services between Gisborne and Napier. But it is a > really nice journey. The train went to Wellington > taking 5½ hours. > > Then I stayed overnight in Wellington. Amused myself > by taking night photos out of the hotel window (9th > floor) with ye old MZ-30. Should be interesting. I > used a variety of shutter speeds. > > Then I had my usual attack of the clumsies and cut my > toe on the step out of the shower. There was a lot of > blood around. But I didn't think to take a photo. > Besides I didn't want any of you males to faint at the > sight. > > Day 2, Sunday 15th July 2001. > In the morning I took some daylight photos out of the > window. There were a couple of interesting old houses > just outside. > > Then hopped on the Interislander Ferry. This takes > passengers between the North Island (where I live) and > the South Island (where Dave Mann gets all his > bargains). This takes 3 hours, or you can pay a bit > more and get the fast ferry. Now the ferry is one of > the best places in the country to see any camera ever > made (and hear any language/accent ever made). I saw > one girl with a Pentax, looked like a Spotmatic, but > she was covering the front and I was too shy to ask > for a look. Then I saw this lady with a Canon. And she > had a bigger lens than me-Wahhh! (?75-225). But I > suppose I shouldn't be too upset, of course my lens > was optically better. She should just wait until I get > my Tamron 60-300 going. > > It was about now that I wished I had a longer lens. > This was not motivated by jealousy. It was just that > at this point (½ hour out of Wellington) I discovered > there was a picture-postcard view of Mount Cook and > the Southern Alps in the distance. Mount Cook is the > highest peak in NZ. You can't usually see it from the > ferry, as it is in the South Island, and usually > covered by cloud I guess. The cloud was up higher > today. > > Then I took another bus for two hours to arrive in > Nelson. I had a look around town today. There are > quite a few promising camera shops. I saw an SMC A28 > in one. I forget the minimum aperture. It was NZ$120. > Maybe US$280-300. Is this a good price? Is it a good > lens? I don't have a 28 yet. Do I need one? > > Jody. > > > > > > > > > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Why I won't be buying an MZ-S, and other ramblings with a rantat the very end.
On Sun, 15 Jul 2001, William Robb wrote: > So, with much trepidation, I went off to see the MZ-S on Friday. Nice > camera. It seems really solid, much more so than the Mincanniks that > it competes with. I find the F100 to be more solid, but way too heavy for my liking. Compared to the LX and its MF ilk, the MZ-S still feels flimsy to me, but it's better than most of what's out there. > I liked where most of the buttons were, but there seems to be a lot of > them. Having the AF fire up from a separate button is kind of cool, > though I don't know what purpose it serves. Try focusing a Nikon F65 without taking a photo... hard to do. Sometimes you need to AF without taking a shot acidentally. > camera with depth of field preview is really nice in this era of > mindless photography. Nice touch to have it on this camera, but the > switch is in the wrong place for me. I kinda like it. :) > I suspect I could get used to it pretty quickly, but this is one of > those things that they should try to keep the same from camera to > camera, and from era to era. Ah, just bring back the LX's DOF-P/MLU/self-timer lever and I'll be happy. > Then I ran into something called PF. PF is the noise a leaky tire > makes. There seemed to be a lot of PF. I think I counted 20 of them. > Very inscrutable, just PF this and PF that, with no clue given as to > what they are. Hmmm, this is not good. I recall this was why I didn't > like the PZ-1 and it's ilk too. I find it hard to understand why people hate the PF options. I mean, they're something that you set once and then *forget about and leave alone*. Do you want to be able to shoot before the flash is fully charged? Do you want the AF beep on or off? Leader in or out? Geez, just read the manual once, set it up the way you like it, then forget about it. They give you the option to do stuff you wouldn't normally be able to do, but if you don't want to use them, then don't. > The camera seems very quiet, though very high pitched. I think I will > take Leica to the store next week some time and see if the noise it > makes bothers her. I'm not fond of the high-pitched noise. > They didn't have a new prime lens to go on it, and seemed dismayed > when I insisted they put a prime on. The only one they had was a used > 50mm f/1.7 (which I bought for 50 bucks, so now my wife has a prime > lens for her MZ-5, but Don's photo no longer has a prime lens in the > store). And they call themselves a pro shop. Does no one use primes > any more? I noticed that all they had for all their cameras were > zooms. Why don't we stock them? Very, very few people buy them. Why don't they buy them? Partly because we don't stock them, and partly because built-in flashes, faster and finer-grained films, brighter focusing screens, and the fact that most people won't print above 4x6 and (rarely) 8x10 inches have all made the quality of prime lenses less important than the convenience of a zoom. And most people buy cameras to record memories, not to create art. That being said, I wish we carried more primes. It's hard to sell what you don't have. > How can you take a good picture with that little discipline? Ah well, > that is what people want, I guess. Make it fast and easy, no one wants > to work at it now. Very few people want to walk everywhere, or even drive a 60 year old car, when a newer one can get them where they want to go faster and easier. Sure, computerized cars may not be as easy to repair in 10 years, but some people care more about having a tool that gets them from point A to point B as easily as possible than they do about constructing a challenging transportation experience so that they can overcome the difficulties. Manual photography is similarly a skill that comparatively few people want (or, arguably, need). Does every photography purist use a typewriter instead of a computer for word-processing? Why not a goose quill? All you need is black marks on a page. For the record, I agree with the points that Bill makes, but I'm not fond of the snobbery that often creeps into the points. > So I won't be buying an MZ-S. It wouldn't make me a better > photographer. Just a lazier one. It seems an odd beast. > Everything is there for it to be a great modern camera. It has > lots of buttons and gizmos. It beeps. It has PF. Lots of PF. > None of this will make better pictures. The picture is still > between me and the subject. The camera is something in between. > I think the less between me and the picture, the better. Well said. Good argument for a Leica or an Asahiflex. :) chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
"My trip" or "Cameras big and small"
Just wanted to tell you about my "big" trip. I decided to take the scenic route over two days instead of flying in a couple of hours. Yes, there is camera stuff in there too, and even Pentax camera stuff. Day 1, Saturday 14th July 2001. Got on the bus in my home-town of Gisborne, NZ. Took 4 hour bus trip to Napier. Pretty uneventful and I hate travelling by bus. Then I hopped on the train. This track is in danger of closing due to recent politics, and privatisation of rail services. They stopped services between Gisborne and Napier. But it is a really nice journey. The train went to Wellington taking 5½ hours. Then I stayed overnight in Wellington. Amused myself by taking night photos out of the hotel window (9th floor) with ye old MZ-30. Should be interesting. I used a variety of shutter speeds. Then I had my usual attack of the clumsies and cut my toe on the step out of the shower. There was a lot of blood around. But I didn't think to take a photo. Besides I didn't want any of you males to faint at the sight. Day 2, Sunday 15th July 2001. In the morning I took some daylight photos out of the window. There were a couple of interesting old houses just outside. Then hopped on the Interislander Ferry. This takes passengers between the North Island (where I live) and the South Island (where Dave Mann gets all his bargains). This takes 3 hours, or you can pay a bit more and get the fast ferry. Now the ferry is one of the best places in the country to see any camera ever made (and hear any language/accent ever made). I saw one girl with a Pentax, looked like a Spotmatic, but she was covering the front and I was too shy to ask for a look. Then I saw this lady with a Canon. And she had a bigger lens than me-Wahhh! (?75-225). But I suppose I shouldn't be too upset, of course my lens was optically better. She should just wait until I get my Tamron 60-300 going. It was about now that I wished I had a longer lens. This was not motivated by jealousy. It was just that at this point (½ hour out of Wellington) I discovered there was a picture-postcard view of Mount Cook and the Southern Alps in the distance. Mount Cook is the highest peak in NZ. You can't usually see it from the ferry, as it is in the South Island, and usually covered by cloud I guess. The cloud was up higher today. Then I took another bus for two hours to arrive in Nelson. I had a look around town today. There are quite a few promising camera shops. I saw an SMC A28 in one. I forget the minimum aperture. It was NZ$120. Maybe US$280-300. Is this a good price? Is it a good lens? I don't have a 28 yet. Do I need one? Jody. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: KX Repair
George Handy wrote: - Original Message - From: "George Handy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2001 6:19 PM Subject: KX Repair > Greetings all-The photograph bug has bit me again, so I pulled out my > 25 year old KX camera, and after putting it through it's paces, I > think it could use a good cleaning and adjustment. What is the group's > reccommendation for a trustworthy repair person? Thanks-George Handy- > Hi George, If the meter and shutter speeds seem OK, it probably just needs a foam job (light seals and mirror foam). Check the foam where the mirror rests in the "up" position, pull it lightly with a pair of tweezers, if it springs back it should be fine, if it crumbles, it needs to be replaced. Check the seal on the camera back, is it in good shape? Does the camera take well exposed pictures? I use a repairman in the L.A. area called "Dean`s Camera Repair" who does nice work, if you`re interested. Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Stolen Pentax Equipment
Hi MIke, Sorry to hear about your loss. www.photo.net has a stolen equipment registry. Good luck with your insurance company. Dan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike wrote: >The following equipment was stolen from my car in >Eugene Oregon on Wednesday night, July 11, 2001. >I was there to enroll my daughter at the University of >Oregon. It was a hell of a welcome to Eugene. > >Pentax ZX-5n Serial # 7530627 >Tamron 28-105mm lens Serial # 100429 >Sigma 70-200mm f2.8 lens Serial # 1002200 >Tokina 20-35mm lens Serial # 4913853 >Sigma 135-400mm lens Serial # ?? >Along with a Lowepro Mini-trekker bag and LOTS >of other related equipment. FTZ330 flash, cords, >filters, etc., plus 30 rolls of hand-rolled film. > >Does anyone know of an online registry to report >stolen equipment? > >I've been wanting the new MZS, but this isn't AT ALL >how I wanted to get a new camera. Actually, I wanted >to keep my ZX-5n for a backup. > >Thanks for listening, I'm off to fight with the insurance >company now. > > >-=Mike=- >In the Pacific Northwet > >- >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S dead on arrival :-(
Have you tried a new battery? They may not have put a new one in, and the old one may be dud or maybe others have tried the camera out. Or even the switch left on at some stage. You never know. Jody. --- Mark Erickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sad but true I received my MZ-S from > camerworld.com on Wednesday, July > 11, 2001. I finally took it out today (Sunday, July > 15, 2001). After I > finished my first roll of film the camera rewound > about half of the roll. > The camera then started making a horribly loud > buzzing noise and then the > motor stopped. Sure enough, I opened the camera and > found about half of the > roll still on the takeup spool. I opened and closed > the camera and again > heard the same bad noises. The third time it > rewound the film the rest of > the way. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT Update: Ricoh Winder from eBay
I think she should pay definitely whether it was Canadian Customs (Douane) or Timbuktu customs. It is not up to you to "mother" her and make sure she puts all that stuff in the package. It was her responsibility. She stuffed up and now expects you to pay for her mistake. Why are you even considering this? It is obvious who should pay. Jody. PS. I have added the OT which you seem to have forgotten. Too bad if your email filters them out. > James, I have the box with the winder which was > returned marked "need Custom > Invoice, Value & Description" written on the box. > What do you want to do? > Loreen > > Am I correct that it was Canadian Customs that > returned the package, and if > so the shipper should pay the postage and insurance. > > James __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
KX Repair
Greetings all-The photograph bug has bit me again, so I pulled out my 25 year old KX camera, and after putting it through it's paces, I think it could use a good cleaning and adjustment. What is the group's reccommendation for a trustworthy repair person? Thanks-George Handy- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Update: Ricoh Winder from eBay
That doesn't sound like Canada Customs. They are usually pretty good about opening and valuing anything that doesn't have a customs declaration on it. OTOH, if you really want it, then have her reship it with the proper documentation. In an ideal world, she would pay shipping, as she didn't provide correct documantation (she is responsible for delivery). We have found that this is far from an ideal world, however. William Robb - Original Message - From: "jmadams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: July 15, 2001 7:06 PM Subject: Update: Ricoh Winder from eBay > My excitment at finding a Winder for my KR10, has taken a bashing. I > received an email from the sender saying she had had it returned by the > receiver's (Me) shipping department as 'refused - returned to sender' as > there was no invoice or customs declaration. She was pissed that she had to > repack and reship and expected me to fork out for postage and insurance > again. > > I received the following email (edited) as managed to rebuild my system > after nearly loosing my HD after a virus attack. > > James, I have the box with the winder which was returned marked "need Custom > Invoice, Value & Description" written on the box. What do you want to do? > Loreen > > Am I correct that it was Canadian Customs that returned the package, and if > so the shipper should pay the postage and insurance. > > James - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Update: Ricoh Winder from eBay
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << I received the following email (edited) as managed to rebuild my system after nearly loosing my HD after a virus attack. James, I have the box with the winder which was returned marked "need Custom Invoice, Value & Description" written on the box. What do you want to do? Loreen Am I correct that it was Canadian Customs that returned the package, and if so the shipper should pay the postage and insurance. >> James, US Postal service clerks will require a customs declaration when they take the package for shipment. I don't know about other shippers. I would think Canadian Customs rejected it for importation. Sounds like her problem to me. You didn't talk her into shipping internationally did you? All she had to say was 'used 35 mm camera winder, value of XXX'. Regards, Bob S. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Update: Ricoh Winder from eBay
My excitment at finding a Winder for my KR10, has taken a bashing. I received an email from the sender saying she had had it returned by the receiver's (Me) shipping department as 'refused - returned to sender' as there was no invoice or customs declaration. She was pissed that she had to repack and reship and expected me to fork out for postage and insurance again. I received the following email (edited) as managed to rebuild my system after nearly loosing my HD after a virus attack. James, I have the box with the winder which was returned marked "need Custom Invoice, Value & Description" written on the box. What do you want to do? Loreen Am I correct that it was Canadian Customs that returned the package, and if so the shipper should pay the postage and insurance. James - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
MZ-S dead on arrival :-(
Sad but true I received my MZ-S from camerworld.com on Wednesday, July 11, 2001. I finally took it out today (Sunday, July 15, 2001). After I finished my first roll of film the camera rewound about half of the roll. The camera then started making a horribly loud buzzing noise and then the motor stopped. Sure enough, I opened the camera and found about half of the roll still on the takeup spool. I opened and closed the camera and again heard the same bad noises. The third time it rewound the film the rest of the way. I carefully inspected the film cartridge (a fresh roll of Kodak E100VS) and found no visible dents or damage. The film spool turns freely in the cartridge, so I don't think that's a problem, either. The camera is going back to Camera World tomorrow --Mark - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Which Camera Bag
On Sun, Jul 15, 2001 at 07:15:11PM +1200, David A. Mann wrote: > If you're happy with LowePro gear you could take a look at their AW series. I > have a Compact AW which is one of the lesser-astronomically-priced models > and it suits me pretty well (it's a great medium format bag). I also have a Nova > 3 which I grew out of (it still makes a good "travelling light" bag). > > My requirements were a little different from yours however; I wanted a bag > where I could access anything without having to screw around with multiple > "layers" of equipment. I was getting very frustrated with my Nova 3 today > because of all the gear I'd tried to cram into it :) Nova 3 when travelling "light"? I almost always travel with a Nova 1. I was recently on holiday with A24/2.8, M35/2, M85/2 plus ME Super with MEII winder without "layers" of equipment. I can also carry a Cokin P holder with 49 and 52 rings and an orange and a linear polariser. (Plus the obligatory spare set of batteries, an incident meter and a hotshoe spirit level.) It gets a bit fiddly when you try to use the filters, but aren't they always? I suppose it's because I usually go without flash. As soon as I try to fit in the Vivitar 283 as well, it's a whole different story. -- Francis Tang, Postgraduate Research Student. LFCS, Div. of Informatics, Uni. of Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK. Tel: +44 131 6505185. Fax: +44 131 6677209. Office: 1603, JCMB, KB. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.dcs.ed.ac.uk/home/fhlt/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Stolen Pentax Equipment
The following equipment was stolen from my car in Eugene Oregon on Wednesday night, July 11, 2001. I was there to enroll my daughter at the University of Oregon. It was a hell of a welcome to Eugene. Pentax ZX-5n Serial # 7530627 Tamron 28-105mm lens Serial # 100429 Sigma 70-200mm f2.8 lens Serial # 1002200 Tokina 20-35mm lens Serial # 4913853 Sigma 135-400mm lens Serial # ?? Along with a Lowepro Mini-trekker bag and LOTS of other related equipment. FTZ330 flash, cords, filters, etc., plus 30 rolls of hand-rolled film. Does anyone know of an online registry to report stolen equipment? I've been wanting the new MZS, but this isn't AT ALL how I wanted to get a new camera. Actually, I wanted to keep my ZX-5n for a backup. Thanks for listening, I'm off to fight with the insurance company now. -=Mike=- In the Pacific Northwet - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT: Sebastiao Salgado show at ICP
Anybody passing through New York this summer should try to get to the International Center of Photography for this show: "Migrations, Humanity in Transition: Photographs by Sebastiao Salgado", through Sept. 9, International Center of Photography, 1133 Avenue of the Americas, at 43rd Street. I caught it this week (with Rob Studdert and his wife, but that's another story) and recommend it highly. If you do not get to New York, watch for it elsewhere. It is a traveling exhibit, although I do not know where else it goes, or when. Just a few of the hundreds of photos on exhibit (and included in the recently published book) can be seen at, albeit in quite small form: http://www.icp.org/exhibitions/salgado/index.html The show received a rather persnickety review in today's New York Times Magazine, which starts by discussing reasons why a French critic has recently called his work: 'Sentimental voyeurism." But the bottom line of the review is: "That said, the good photographs are so stupendously gorgeous that they make you forget everything else while you are looking at them. They bespeak uncanny formal intuition, a ready repertory of apt allusions to art history and peerless timing (and some luck maybe, too, which all great photojournalists have). This applies whether the image is a panoramic blur of jostling commuters at a Bombay railroad station, wherein a visual cliché of human overpopulation and modern travel is transformed into a minor miracle of geometric and textural subtlety; or the fearful, glassy-eyed glare of three refugee babies captured through a slit between rough blankets; or the silent labor of people dragging a mastless skiff over glossy sand under leaden skies, an image screaming with Christian symbolism like so many of Mr. Salgado's pictures. You would have to be blind or dead-hearted or immune to aesthetic pleasure not to be at least occasionally bowled over by such improbable skill." http://www.nytimes.com/2001/07/13/arts/design/13KIMM.html?0713inside=&pagewanted=all The same issue of the Times Magazine contains a short article highlighting Delgado's choice of photojournalism's five best shots. At: http://www.nytimes.com/2001/07/15/magazine/15FIVEFROM.html?searchpv=nytToday Bob Harris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Help With Lenses
Having upgraded recently from ME Super to a PZ-1 , I am coming to some tough decisions for lenses. I'm not sure if I will lose quality by upgrading from my older manual pentax lenses, to newer autofocus models. To be honest, while having AF features would be nice, ultimately it is optical quality which matters most to me, as I plan to use it in manual modes 90% of the time. Am I better off to stay with what I have quality wise or not? I currently have : 1. Off Market 28mm f 2.8 2. SMC Pentax-M 50mm f1.7 3. Takumar-A Zoom 28-80mm f3.5-4.5 (Macro) (The Zoom is a bit loose, but the optics are fine) 4. SMC Pentax-M Zoom 80-200mm f4.5 I am looking at various newer pentax alternatives including: 28-80 f3.5/5.6 SMCP-FA (to replace 3. ) 80-200 f4.7/5.6 SMCP-FA (to replace 4. ) 50 f 1.7 SMCP-FA (to replace 2. ) 80-320 f4.5/5.6 SMCP-FA (to replace 4. ) Macro 100 f3.5 SMCP-FA (cause it would be nice to have, though dont know that i can afford it right now) 50 f2 SMCP-A (not autofocus, but at least gives me the A) (to replace 2. ) TIA JJ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Date other people!
Can we get photos? Regards, Bob... -- "Those who say that life is worth living at any cost have already written an epitaph of infamy, for there is no cause and no person that they will not betray to stay alive." Sidney Hook From: "Robert Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Mike Johnston wrote: > > > > Jim wrote: > > > > > I'm dating > > > myself... > > > > That's sick! > > Perhaps he has no alternatives. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Frank van Riper
Mike wrote: > This is a nice article. Check it out before it > disappears > http://washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/photo/galleries/ > essays/102000.htm Yes, very nice. Van Riper's column changes every Friday and is always worth a look. This week's is terrific, too (you may have to cut and paste): http://washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/photo/essays/ vanRiper/index.htm In fact you you like photography, the Camera Works section of the Washington Post's site is one of the best things on the web: http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp-dyn/photo/index.html?inside Check out Jan Faul's haunting Battlefield Parks landscapes http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/photo/ index.html?inside and be amazed. --John = John Edwin Mason Charlottesville, Virginia Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alt Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Date other people!
Mike Johnston wrote: > > Jim wrote: > > > I'm dating > > myself... > > That's sick! Perhaps he has no alternatives. Bob Harris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: NiMH batteries
Some older equipment does not have a current limiting resistor in series with the batteries. Alkalines have a high internal resistance and don't require an external current limiting resistor. Without one Nicad can fry the circuits. Most newer equipment has that resistor. --Tom "Jaros³aw Brzeziñski" wrote: > > I don't know the cons and I have used NiMH batteries in several > devices whose manuals did not say it was allowed to do so. In manuals > accompanying older equipment manufacturers sometimes warned against > use of NiCd batteries and I would say that the same would apply to > newer NiMHs. Perhaps one of the problems is the lower volatage: 1.2 > against 1.5 of disposable batteries. > > "Hugo V.A. Kok" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> napisa³ / wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > is anyone knowledgeable about the contra's of NiMH batteries in > various > > sorts of equipement (the pro's I'm too well aware of)? I remember a > comment > > in a thread some time ago and it went something like that Pentax > warned for > > using NiMH batteries in the batterypack of some model of camera. > Since I > > bought a number of GP Powerbank batteries 1800 & 1600 mAh for > flashes (AF500 > > FTZ & older Metz type) and use them to date to my utmost > satisfaction, I > > thought about having another four for the batterypack of the MZ5n > (and maybe > > some 1300mAh ones for the MX Winder). > > > > Now this leads me to the obvious question: what is exactly the > wording of > > the warning that Pentax gave about for the use of NimH batteries? > And what > > is the basis for this warning? I find under no circumstances > drawbacks on > > using NiMH's, on the contrary: can't praise them enough. > > > > I'm stubborn enough to just try them in the batterypack anyway and > see what > > happens (or not happens) for the whole anti-NiMH story sounds like > another > > Apebread-story to me. But since I have the luxury to consult a > friendly > > collective like you I thought it might be helpfull to inquire if > there is > > anybody who cares to comment on my questions. > > > > Thanks a lot in advance in thinking with me > > > > Hugo. > > > > > > _ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > - > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > > > > > --- > P.S. Wejd¼ w Kontakt! Wygraj Nokie 9110i i rejs do Szwecji! < >http://kontakt.wp.pl/konkurs > > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Date other people!
Jim wrote: > I'm dating > myself... That's sick! (Ba-ba-da-DUM) --Mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Frank van Riper
yes, really a nice one. >From: Mike Johnston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Frank van Riper >Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 08:40:21 -0500 > > >This is a nice article. Check it out before it disappears > >http://washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/photo/galleries/essays/102000.htm > >--Mike > >- >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: What is a fried cheese curd ?
tom wrote: > I raise my Pabst to the PDML! I happier outcome than this one. The snails A couple were having a fancy dinner party at their oceanfront apartment in Italy. The wife was very excited about this event and wanted everything to be perfect. As the guests' arrival approached, she got the idea of serving escargot, which were native but not in the kitchen. So she asked her husband to run down to the beach to get some. He agreed. He took a bucket, walked out the door, down the stairs and out to the beach. As he was collecting the snails, he noticed a beautiful woman strolling at the water's edge nearby. Thinking to himself, "Wouldn't it be great if she would just come down and talk to me," he went back to gathering the snails. All of a sudden he looked up, and there was the beautiful woman. They talked. She invited him to her apartment down the beach. He accepted. Eventually, after extensive acts of the passionate sort, he was exhausted and passed out. The next morning he woke up and exclaimed, "Oh no!!! The dinner party!!!" He dressed in a panic, grabbed his bucket, and ran out the door, down the beach, and up the apartment building stairs. He was in such a hurry that he tripped and fell on the stairs, loudly dropping the bucket of snails. Snails were strewn up and down the stairs. A very angry wife opened the door at this moment and sternly took in the scene. The prostrate, disheveled husband surveyed the snails on the steps, looked back at his wife, then back at the snails and said: "Come on guys, we're almost there!" - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: camera for junior
In a message dated 7/14/01 3:48:39 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Go for it you can't go too far wrong. Nothing wrong with Ricoh. But if you dig a little, you might find a great deal on a good pentax camera for just a little more << Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 12:16:01 -0700 (PDT) From: martin tammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Camera for junior My son has expressed an interest in photography but I am reluctant to let him borrow my good gear. For much less than the cost of a Pentax lens, I can buy a Ricoh KR-5 Super II with a Rikenon 35-70 lens for him from a friend. I thought that once he gets the hang of that and if he is still interested, he could use some of my better lenses. Would appreciate any thoughts about the Ricoh and its lens as a student camera. Cheers - Martin. >> - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: FYI:MZ-S now in the UK
I agree: I think the camera is beautiful, elegant and user-friendly. I have every intention of one day owning one. But I'll wait for the right time. If I were needing a camera today, it would certainly be the one I'd buy. Vic, Canada In a message dated 7/14/01 3:48:39 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Subject: Re: FYI:MZ-S now in the UK Hi Bob, Like you, I am not rushing down to my local dealer to be the first to pick up the new MZ-S. I found it interesting how some of the early models have some glitches in them, like the overlapping frames. I would hate to buy one and have complications come up almost immediately. Besides, I usually purchase cameras used anyway. It may be two or three years before I decide to buy one. By then all the bugs should be corrected. Jim A. >> - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Frank van Riper
This is a nice article. Check it out before it disappears http://washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/photo/galleries/essays/102000.htm --Mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Press awards
And when you took to the podium to accept your awards, did you sing the praises of your Pentaxes? I assume they weren't all Pentax users due to your comment "not enought free beer". :) Seriously, congrats and kudos, on what was obviously a job well done. Whatever intrinstic satisfaction one may feel for the work one does, it feels better to have it recognized by others! regards, frank Treena Harp wrote: > Just got back from our state's press convention, and among other things, I > got first and fourth place in the news photo category and second place in > photographer's portfolio (small weeklies division). The convention was fun > as usual, but not nearly enough free beer this year ... > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Press awards
And when you took to the podium to accept your awards, did you sing the praises of your Pentaxes? I assume they weren't all Pentax users due to your comment "not enought free beer". :) Seriously, congrats and kudos, on what was obviously a job well done. Whatever intrinstic satisfaction one may feel for the work one does, it feels better to have it recognized by others! regards, frank Treena Harp wrote: > Just got back from our state's press convention, and among other things, I > got first and fourth place in the news photo category and second place in > photographer's portfolio (small weeklies division). The convention was fun > as usual, but not nearly enough free beer this year ... > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Cost incompatibility of MZ-S (was: Ordered My MZ-S ... )
Well Cotty, I would give you the easy answer and say VAT, but almost ~everything~ in your country is damn expensive compared to most places... Norm Cotty wrote: > Can anyone please tell me why I should pay hundreds more for the same > thing here in Britain, supposedly well and truly ensconced in 'the First > World', than counterparts in the USA? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Grandfather Mt. (was Re: Press awards)
No, my scanner is down, but the folks who were in it should be getting a copy within the next couple of weeks. tv Mark Roberts wrote: > > Tom, > Did you ever post the PDML group photo you took? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Press awards
Congratulations! Otis Wright Treena Harp wrote: > Just got back from our state's press convention, and among other things, I > got first and fourth place in the news photo category and second place in > photographer's portfolio (small weeklies division). The convention was fun > as usual, but not nearly enough free beer this year ... > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: NiMH batteries
I don't know the cons and I have used NiMH batteries in several devices whose manuals did not say it was allowed to do so. In manuals accompanying older equipment manufacturers sometimes warned against use of NiCd batteries and I would say that the same would apply to newer NiMHs. Perhaps one of the problems is the lower volatage: 1.2 against 1.5 of disposable batteries. "Hugo V.A. Kok" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> napisał / wrote: > Hello, > > is anyone knowledgeable about the contra's of NiMH batteries in various > sorts of equipement (the pro's I'm too well aware of)? I remember a comment > in a thread some time ago and it went something like that Pentax warned for > using NiMH batteries in the batterypack of some model of camera. Since I > bought a number of GP Powerbank batteries 1800 & 1600 mAh for flashes (AF500 > FTZ & older Metz type) and use them to date to my utmost satisfaction, I > thought about having another four for the batterypack of the MZ5n (and maybe > some 1300mAh ones for the MX Winder). > > Now this leads me to the obvious question: what is exactly the wording of > the warning that Pentax gave about for the use of NimH batteries? And what > is the basis for this warning? I find under no circumstances drawbacks on > using NiMH's, on the contrary: can't praise them enough. > > I'm stubborn enough to just try them in the batterypack anyway and see what > happens (or not happens) for the whole anti-NiMH story sounds like another > Apebread-story to me. But since I have the luxury to consult a friendly > collective like you I thought it might be helpfull to inquire if there is > anybody who cares to comment on my questions. > > Thanks a lot in advance in thinking with me > > Hugo. > > > _ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > --- P.S. Wejdź w Kontakt! Wygraj Nokie 9110i i rejs do Szwecji! < http://kontakt.wp.pl/konkurs > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Grandfather Mt. (was Re: Press awards)
tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Here's the link for the park: >http://www.grandfather.com/ >and here's the link to the photo weekend: >http://www.grandfather.com/calendar/naturephoto/naturephoto00.htm Tom, Did you ever post the PDML group photo you took? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: OT : Holmes
gone sing er a sawng...Man, that bit still cracks me up! I'm dating myself... - Original Message - From: David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 11:04 AM Subject: Re: Re: OT : Holmes > gona go downtown gona see my girl huh huh > > (cheech and chong 1972) > > Dave(not here)Brooks > > Begin Original Message > > From: "Bill D. Casselberry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 10:16:39 -0800 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: OT : Holmes > > > John Francis wrote: > > > > Ah, you mean Sherlock, not Paul (for NZ readers only). > > > Took me a while to work that out (yes it's Friday). I > > > ... Paul Holmes. He is just there in your face every > > > night on the TV :) > > > Could be worse - it could be John Holmes. > > As with Blind Melon Chittlin's dilemma, I doubt they could > fit it on the screen/album cover !8^D > > > - > Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast > > http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > > > End Original Message > > > > > Pentax User > Stouffville Ont Canada > Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Camera for junior
JeffW writes: > Good idea except get a different lens. You can pick up a better K-mount > lens > cheaply. Having tried this lens (part of a lot) it was pretty bad. I agree. May I suggest a Pentax (M, A) 50mm f2. You can get it for a song, it is a decent 50mm lens, and a prime is IMO a better start for a young photographer than a zoom. j = -- Juan J. Buhler http://www.jbuhler.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
