Re: new camera

2001-08-24 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Alas, there is no "common law" law in New York State.
at least there wasnt a few years ago when it would have been
very important to me.

later,
ann

Amita Guha wrote:
> 
> > Yep, in Australia its called a Defacto Relationship. I think common law
> > marriage is a better term :)
> 
> Ooh! I'm in one of those! Well, it's only been a year, but still...
> 
> I guess I'm lucky because my boyfriend and I both like to spend money on
> gadgets, and in fact he's the one who got me into SLRs. He bought me my
> K1000 and has indulged me by not saying anything while I bought two lenses
> and a bunch of accessories. In fact, he told me to go for it when I bid on
> a Minolta rangefinder last weekend and got it for cheap. It should be
> arriving any day now. :)
> 
> He only expressed his "concern" when he thought I was going to bid on that
> SMC 15mm 3.5 about a month ago on ebay, the one that ended at around $660.
> :)
> 
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RE: Re[2]: Trap focus

2001-08-24 Thread admin

Nenad wrote:

> What I would like to know is whether any Pentax cameras have predictive
> focus when using this function.  My Z1 doesn't appear to.  I've tried
> it on a subject moving toward me and the shutter seemed to fire late.
 DOF
> ensured the prints still came out OK.

I'll bet the shutter didn't fire late and the AF worked fine. 

When I recently shot a superbike race I expected half my shots to be out
of focus based on what I saw in the viewfinder. Almost all were in perfect
focus. What I believe was happening to me (and you) is that I was subconsciously
judging the image by what I saw after the exposure had been made the mirror
had come back down, which is a significant time after the exposure for fast-moving
objects. By that time the object being photographed had indeed moved to
far to be in focus, but it was right *in* focus when the shutter opened.

For a fast-moving object, I'd bet the mirror flips up slightly before perfect
focus is achieved and doesn't come back down until after the subject has
passed out of focus. So I never got to see the focused image in the viewfinder
even though my camera got it on film.

I was using a Z-1p

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Re[2]: Trap focus

2001-08-24 Thread Alin Flaider

Nenad wrote:

ND> What I would like to know is whether any Pentax cameras have predictive
ND> focus when using this function.  My Z1 doesn't appear to.  I've tried it on
ND> a subject moving toward me and the shutter seemed to fire late.  DOF ensured
ND> the prints still came out OK.

   Hi Nenad,

   Perhaps not predictive focus but it's still fast enough for me.
   I took pictures in relatively narrow depth of field conditions
   (200mm focal length, f/4, 5 meters away), of a subject running
   towards me and trap focus nailed it right in the middle of DOF.

   I once set up a macro project with camera on continuos shooting,
   mounted on tripod with remote release locked on. Despite the high
   magnification (around 1:1.5) all bees came out in focus.

   I'd say trap focus works quite well.
 
   Servus, Alin (thinking he shouldn't sell his only manual focus lens
 as of writing this)


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FS: Pentax AF280T with 2 Quantum Batteries and cord

2001-08-24 Thread Nicholas Wright

Hi all!
I have for sale the following items...

1) One Pentax AF280T; flash foot is broken, battery compartment door
will not stay closed (doesn't matter since I'm including two QB's). Other
than that works great. I am also including a "Duo-Sync" cord that will allow
off camera TTL use with this and any other Pentax analog TTL flash (will NOT
work with newer digital units), used mine in conjunction with a pz1p off
camera flash really changes the look of the photo. And it also includes a
Stofen Omni-Bounce diffuser (another thing I will always have in my bag).

2) Two Quantum Batteries. One is the older switch type control with
three LEDs, the other is the newer QB 1+ with button controls and four LEDs.
The older one is in desperate need of a cell replacement (Quantum does these
for like $50 and the replace the cells and upgrade and check all circuitry),
it holds a charge but takes several seconds to recycle from a full power
flash discharge. The newer one could prolly use a cell replacement in the
near future, but works very well. Flash recycles quickly and the last time I
used it, it ran out of juice just after an 8 hour wedding (flash used
constantly). Also included is the wall adapter. Also the cord to connect the
battery to the AF280T (also works with the Vivitar 283).

I've been told that there is someone here in Dallas that has a replacement
foot for the 280T since you can no longer purchase them from Pentax
(apparently), I will check on that today. I'm selling them because in my
haste to get a another unit to use for an assignment after the flash broke,
I bought one of the newer digital units, I like it better and I can't use
the QB 1+ with them anyway. :)

Anyone interested I'll take $100 for the whole lot, and will consider other
offers.

Thanks,
Nick
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Re: lens database?

2001-08-24 Thread dave o'brien

A scroll of mail from "CW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Mon, 13 Aug
2001 22:06:07 -0400
Read it? y
>Would it be good if someone who isn't web-developmentally challenged (like
>me) put together a poll where you could vote on lenses based on a couple key
>criteria?

Here's a hint.  Before you go insulting everyone who's already done
what you've proposed, how about looking around to see if it exists
first?

dave

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Re: MZ-S flash compensation

2001-08-24 Thread Nicholas Wright

You know I think he has a point here... as long as you are using a second 
meter to set your manual exposure on the camera, you can set the ISO on the
camera to whatever amount of compensation you'd like... again as long as you
are using a second meter to determine ambient exposure, you would then be
able to have flash comp, right? It sounds like kindof a pain, but if the
lighting is not expected to change then you'd only have to meter for ambient
once... just a thought.

Nick

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>From: "Bruce Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: MZ-S flash compensation
>Date: Thu, Aug 23, 2001, 11:04 PM
>

> Yes you are missing something.  We are talking about TTL flash as measured
> by the camera body.  The ISO setting on the flash is only for use when the
> flash sensor is measuring it's own light.  The AF500FTZ has no ISO setting.
> It is only TTL.  Therefore, to adjust flash output, you have to fool the
> body sensor.  The PZ-1p has that built into the body.  The MZ-S does not.
>
> Hyper Program with flash compensation on the PZ-1p is very easy.  Pal's
> method on the MZ-S sounds very reasonable.  I'm going to try it and see how
> comfortable and easy it is in practice.
>
> Bruce Dayton
> Sacramento, CA
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Pat White
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 6:02 PM
> Subject: MZ-S flash compensation
>
>
> I've never used a camera with provision for flash exposure compensation (I'm
> presently, cheerfully, using an MZ-5n), but it sounds very convenient.
> However, doesn't changing the ISO setting on the flash do exactly the same
> thing?  Hitting the ISO button on the Metz, then tapping the plus/minus
> buttons to the desired setting isn't that onerous a job.  Am I missing
> something here?  Hope I don't sound completely uninformed.
>
> Pat White
>
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Re:The flagship dilemma (Was:MS-Z vs PZ-1p experience)

2001-08-24 Thread Alin Flaider


  Max, how about:

  1. dial exposure compensation (usually for flash it remains the same
 for several exposures, so you can skip this step)
  2. press green button to get a shutter speed (don't worry, with
 flash connected, it'll always be below 1/180)
  3. dial around previous shutter speed to cancel compensation and
 eventually add specific compensation for ambient light (for
 instance, for -1 flash compensation, dial shutter speed one stop
 slower, for +1 dial one stop faster).

  Maybe not as straightforward as with PZ-1p, but certainly much
  faster than MZ-5N and enough for me.

  Servus,  Alin

Max wrote:

MM> I'm confused here.
MM> I found it a major pain to do exposure comp. on the MZ-S with the 500FTZ. 
MM> Am I doing it right? 

MM> 1. Obtain exposure value by pressing green button with camera in Av mode. 
MM> 2. Note values and memorise them. 
MM> 3. Set those values via command wheel, (manual mode), making sure
MM> the shutter speed in within 180/th sync speed, stopping down lens
MM> until it is.  

MM> 4. Set your desired amount of exposure compensation on the exposure comp dial. 
MM> 5. Compose and shoot. 
MM> 6. Then reset the exp. comp. back to zero and repeat process all over again 
MM>for the next shot.  

MM> How can that be quicker than the Z1p's method? 

MM> Or have I missed something here? 


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Re: Sports photographer mentality?

2001-08-24 Thread Anthony Farr

Metz 60CT series flashes also have a motor drive setting that keeps up
at 5fps, but not with as much grunt as a Norman I'd guess.  Mine will
deliver 7 metres at f2 with ISO400 at the normal reflector setting.
According to the Mecamat 60-30 sensor that's about equal to 1/64 power.
In theory 1/32 should recycle in under 0.2sec but that assumes the
capacitor's recharge curve is a straight line, and it probably isn't.

FWIW I got my 60CT-1 in the early '80s when they were new to the market,
and for a long time (perhaps still?) Metz 60s were regarded as THE
handle mount flashgun to have when power and auto-exposure both
mattered.  And it didn't hurt that owners of 45CT-*s would turn green
with envy when you could just keep hitting the shutter release with nary
a care for recycling times.

But my prime reason for getting a brute flashgun was to achieve daylight
fill flash over a reasonable distance at the modest x-synch of older FP
shutters.  I suspect it is cheaper to increase the power of the flashgun
than it is to make fast X-synching FP shutters, but for better or worse
the manufacturers have decided to throw OUR money down the latter road.
Perhaps it is more profitable for them to value-add the camera than it
is to value-add their flashguns, or risk letting a 3rd party
manufacturer like Metz or Braun or Sunpak take the sale (and profit)
from them.

Regards,
Anthony Farr

- Original Message -
From: "Robert Payne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> OK, Tom I'm busted. I spoke out of school on that one. Never used
> a big-ol Norman, my flame thrower flash is a Sunpak 622 and since
> I usually shoot 400 speed film at F5.6 on football games, it takes
> about a second to recharge.
>
> ...
> Like to make a small wager? A Norman 200B at 1/4 power will. But you
give up
> all automation with
> that.
> - --graywolf
>
>
> Robert Payne wrote:
> >
> > no flash can keep up with a 4+ fps motordrive,
>



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Re: new camera

2001-08-24 Thread Robert Harris

William Robb wrote:
> 
> Be very careful with the upgrades. A friend of mine just
> upgraded from Girlfriend V3.0 to Fiance V1.0. All sorts of
> software issues came up that he wasn't prepared to deal with. I
> have heard it gets even worse when you upgrade to Wife, any
> version, but 1.0 seems most buggy, as there sometimes are a lot
> of hardware conflicts.

You also have to watch out for the terms of contacts. Unfortunately, one
often retains financial liabilities for the old versions after moving
on.

(Oh, are we gonna get in trouble)

Bob
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Re: new camera

2001-08-24 Thread Robert Harris

Antti-Pekka Virjonen wrote:
 
> 
> Don't you know you can upgrade them ? Just download new software versions
> or hotfixes, but of course you need a maintenance contract for that ;-)
> 
> I especially like the hotfixes myself...
> 
> Oh' and I will be using my LX a long time as well :-)
 
The LX should last a lifetime, with an occasional CLA. Not sure if that
works for women, though. I keep trading mine in -- or vice versa.

Bob
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Re: new camera

2001-08-24 Thread Antti-Pekka Virjonen

At 06:24 24.8.2001 -0600, William Robb wrote:

>Be very careful with the upgrades. A friend of mine just
>upgraded from Girlfriend V3.0 to Fiance V1.0. All sorts of
>software issues came up that he wasn't prepared to deal with. I
>have heard it gets even worse when you upgrade to Wife, any
>version, but 1.0 seems most buggy, as there sometimes are a lot
>of hardware conflicts.

I know.. I know... I just upgraded (in June) from Wife V1.0 after 
the first year to V2.0 .. it works fluently so far :-) But I know
it helps to have the software development kit and I can make
small changes myself. But as you say, the hardware issues are pretty
tricky at times. Just don't overload the CPU.

Antti-Pekka

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Re: new camera

2001-08-24 Thread admin

-- Original Message --
>- Original Message -
>From: "Antti-Pekka Virjonen"
>> Nahh...
>>
>> Don't you know you can upgrade them ? Just download new
>software versions
>> or hotfixes, but of course you need a maintenance contract for
>that ;-)
>>
>> I especially like the hotfixes myself...
>
>Be very careful with the upgrades. A friend of mine just
>upgraded from Girlfriend V3.0 to Fiance V1.0. All sorts of
>software issues came up that he wasn't prepared to deal with. I
>have heard it gets even worse when you upgrade to Wife, any
>version, but 1.0 seems most buggy, as there sometimes are a lot
>of hardware conflicts.

You should also keep in mind that backwards compatibility between versions
is virtually non-existant. Once you "upgrade" you pretty much have to reformat
and start from scratch in order to go back.

-- 
Mark Roberts
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Re: Sports photographer mentality?

2001-08-24 Thread Daniel J. Matyola

> Richard Klein wrote:
>
> > How do you keep track of all the settings you took various pictures at?  Do
> > you have a data back or carry a notebook with you?

I have a very small digital voice recorder that I take along when I think I need to
record that kind of info, or when I'm traveling and want to remember exactly where
I took that shot, especially something like an architectural detail. It's the size
of a credit card, and only a bit thicker.  Made by panasonic and others.

Dan
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Re: Interesting question about digital: Infrared

2001-08-24 Thread Anand DHUPKAR

too good.


>From: Gerald Wang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Interesting question about digital: Infrared
>Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 23:50:57 -0400 (EDT)
>
>Here are some examples of IR photos taken with a Minolta Dimage 7:
>
>http://www.photoartworld.com/galleries/dimage/pages/PICT0014.htm
>http://www.photoartworld.com/galleries/dimage/pages/PICT0033.htm
>http://www.photoartworld.com/galleries/dimage/pages/PICT0039.htm
>http://www.photoartworld.com/galleries/dimage/pages/PICT0043.htm
>
>I think the results speak for themselves, wouldn't you agree? According to
>my friend, it is not hard to get good results with this camera.
>
>Regards,
>
>Gerald
>
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RE: List Help? (Majordomo)

2001-08-24 Thread Richard Klein

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Re: new camera

2001-08-24 Thread Daniel J. Matyola

Doug Franklin wrote:

> Same in the US. Anywhere from three months to seven or more years,
> depending on the state and locality, and the law considers you married
> (Common Law Marriage is the technical term, I think).

Not here in NJ!  Plus, we have the greatest hawk flyover in the fall, at Cape
May, if you like to shot birds (with a camera, that is).
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Re: new camera

2001-08-24 Thread William Robb


- Original Message -
From: "Antti-Pekka Virjonen"
Subject: Re: new camera



>
> Nahh...
>
> Don't you know you can upgrade them ? Just download new
software versions
> or hotfixes, but of course you need a maintenance contract for
that ;-)
>
> I especially like the hotfixes myself...

Be very careful with the upgrades. A friend of mine just
upgraded from Girlfriend V3.0 to Fiance V1.0. All sorts of
software issues came up that he wasn't prepared to deal with. I
have heard it gets even worse when you upgrade to Wife, any
version, but 1.0 seems most buggy, as there sometimes are a lot
of hardware conflicts.
WW

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Re: new camera

2001-08-24 Thread Antti-Pekka Virjonen

At 06:41 24.8.2001 -0400, Robert Harris wrote:
>Paul Jones wrote:
>> 
>> Not in Australia :) after a couple of years living together its considered
>> the same as being married.
>
>How awful. 
>
>Then you'd better be prepared to trade in your woman for a new model
>every 23 months, or bear the consequences. :)

Nahh...

Don't you know you can upgrade them ? Just download new software versions
or hotfixes, but of course you need a maintenance contract for that ;-)

I especially like the hotfixes myself...

Oh' and I will be using my LX a long time as well :-)

Hmm.. sounds like it's Friday again,
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RE: List Help? (Majordomo)

2001-08-24 Thread Peifer, William [OCDUS]

Glenn Arthur wrote:
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Hi Glenn,

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Re: new camera

2001-08-24 Thread Robert Harris

Paul Jones wrote:
> 
> Not in Australia :) after a couple of years living together its considered
> the same as being married.

How awful. 

Then you'd better be prepared to trade in your woman for a new model
every 23 months, or bear the consequences. :)
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FS: LX body, AF280T, Grip & Bracket

2001-08-24 Thread mike wilson

UK dealer Truro Photographic.
Tel: +44 1872 271096
£199/LX
£69/280T
£65/grip&bracket

They also have an LX case on a Z10 body you could ask about.
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LX Screens and hairy bits

2001-08-24 Thread Terence Mac Goff



Hi all.

Fist a little rave. I just got an sc-69 and an se-60 for my LX, and they do 
make a very significant difference indeed! Quite bright, and very sharp.

However, one downside is you now see all the crud on the top screen, and 
the dust on the underplate  much more clearly than before. Damn!

Has anyone ever cleaned these plates? I'm reluctant to go at them, as I 
dont know what they are coated with, so alcohol based stuff might be out. 
Anyone any ideas?

Thanks

T.

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Re: Texas (yes it's way OT)

2001-08-24 Thread Jody

BTW, which Californian snuck a black widow spider in
with the latest grape export to my original hometown?
It wasn't a nice trick. Keep your wildlife to
yourselves :)




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OT: List Help? (Majordomo)

2001-08-24 Thread D. Glenn Arthur Jr.

On Listserv lists, I know I can set my status to "nomail"
while remaining subscribed.  Is there a way to do this 
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I've got two versions of my email address, depending on
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-- Glenn

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Re: Flash Compensation (WAS:Fw: The flagship dilemma (Was:MS-Z vs PZ-1p experience))

2001-08-24 Thread Max McRae

Pål wrote:
Z-1p:
1. In aperture priority mode set whatever exposure you want but make
sure that shutterspeed don't exceed the synch speed.
2: Turn dial (1) to flash symbol.
3. Press button (2) on dial (1)
4. While doing step 3. above, turn dial (3) until desired exposure
compensation is achieved.
5. Shot as many shots as you like. If you want to vary the ambient
exposure press exposure compensation button (4). While doing this turn
dial (4) until desired exposure compensation is reached. Alternatively;
turn dial (1) to the mode setting. Scroll with dial ...etc  to manual
mode. Set the desired exposure.
6. When finished, turn dial (1) to flash symbol. Press button (2) on
dial (1). While doing this turn dial (3) until desired exposure
compensation is achieved - in this case zero.

Pål, I have never used this method.
I simply go to Pentax Function 7 and change it to option 1,
then I go to the flash function on the program wheel and
dial in however much comp. I want and that's it!
One press of the IF button to set exsposure and ensure
shutter speed is within sync. speed for the aperture chosen, and you have
instant fill flash.
Your way is far too complicated and totally unnecessary.
That's what I meant when I said how simple the Z1p was compared with the
MZ-S.
The MZ-S way too time consuming and a pain in the butt when you have a
wedding
to do, for instance.

I'm dying to get my hands on the AF360FGZ to see just how easy it is to do
fill flash with.

Regards,

Max







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