Re: new camera
Alas, there is no "common law" law in New York State. at least there wasnt a few years ago when it would have been very important to me. later, ann Amita Guha wrote: > > > Yep, in Australia its called a Defacto Relationship. I think common law > > marriage is a better term :) > > Ooh! I'm in one of those! Well, it's only been a year, but still... > > I guess I'm lucky because my boyfriend and I both like to spend money on > gadgets, and in fact he's the one who got me into SLRs. He bought me my > K1000 and has indulged me by not saying anything while I bought two lenses > and a bunch of accessories. In fact, he told me to go for it when I bid on > a Minolta rangefinder last weekend and got it for cheap. It should be > arriving any day now. :) > > He only expressed his "concern" when he thought I was going to bid on that > SMC 15mm 3.5 about a month ago on ebay, the one that ended at around $660. > :) > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Re[2]: Trap focus
Nenad wrote: > What I would like to know is whether any Pentax cameras have predictive > focus when using this function. My Z1 doesn't appear to. I've tried > it on a subject moving toward me and the shutter seemed to fire late. DOF > ensured the prints still came out OK. I'll bet the shutter didn't fire late and the AF worked fine. When I recently shot a superbike race I expected half my shots to be out of focus based on what I saw in the viewfinder. Almost all were in perfect focus. What I believe was happening to me (and you) is that I was subconsciously judging the image by what I saw after the exposure had been made the mirror had come back down, which is a significant time after the exposure for fast-moving objects. By that time the object being photographed had indeed moved to far to be in focus, but it was right *in* focus when the shutter opened. For a fast-moving object, I'd bet the mirror flips up slightly before perfect focus is achieved and doesn't come back down until after the subject has passed out of focus. So I never got to see the focused image in the viewfinder even though my camera got it on film. I was using a Z-1p -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[2]: Trap focus
Nenad wrote: ND> What I would like to know is whether any Pentax cameras have predictive ND> focus when using this function. My Z1 doesn't appear to. I've tried it on ND> a subject moving toward me and the shutter seemed to fire late. DOF ensured ND> the prints still came out OK. Hi Nenad, Perhaps not predictive focus but it's still fast enough for me. I took pictures in relatively narrow depth of field conditions (200mm focal length, f/4, 5 meters away), of a subject running towards me and trap focus nailed it right in the middle of DOF. I once set up a macro project with camera on continuos shooting, mounted on tripod with remote release locked on. Despite the high magnification (around 1:1.5) all bees came out in focus. I'd say trap focus works quite well. Servus, Alin (thinking he shouldn't sell his only manual focus lens as of writing this) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
FS: Pentax AF280T with 2 Quantum Batteries and cord
Hi all! I have for sale the following items... 1) One Pentax AF280T; flash foot is broken, battery compartment door will not stay closed (doesn't matter since I'm including two QB's). Other than that works great. I am also including a "Duo-Sync" cord that will allow off camera TTL use with this and any other Pentax analog TTL flash (will NOT work with newer digital units), used mine in conjunction with a pz1p off camera flash really changes the look of the photo. And it also includes a Stofen Omni-Bounce diffuser (another thing I will always have in my bag). 2) Two Quantum Batteries. One is the older switch type control with three LEDs, the other is the newer QB 1+ with button controls and four LEDs. The older one is in desperate need of a cell replacement (Quantum does these for like $50 and the replace the cells and upgrade and check all circuitry), it holds a charge but takes several seconds to recycle from a full power flash discharge. The newer one could prolly use a cell replacement in the near future, but works very well. Flash recycles quickly and the last time I used it, it ran out of juice just after an 8 hour wedding (flash used constantly). Also included is the wall adapter. Also the cord to connect the battery to the AF280T (also works with the Vivitar 283). I've been told that there is someone here in Dallas that has a replacement foot for the 280T since you can no longer purchase them from Pentax (apparently), I will check on that today. I'm selling them because in my haste to get a another unit to use for an assignment after the flash broke, I bought one of the newer digital units, I like it better and I can't use the QB 1+ with them anyway. :) Anyone interested I'll take $100 for the whole lot, and will consider other offers. Thanks, Nick - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: lens database?
A scroll of mail from "CW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Mon, 13 Aug 2001 22:06:07 -0400 Read it? y >Would it be good if someone who isn't web-developmentally challenged (like >me) put together a poll where you could vote on lenses based on a couple key >criteria? Here's a hint. Before you go insulting everyone who's already done what you've proposed, how about looking around to see if it exists first? dave - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S flash compensation
You know I think he has a point here... as long as you are using a second meter to set your manual exposure on the camera, you can set the ISO on the camera to whatever amount of compensation you'd like... again as long as you are using a second meter to determine ambient exposure, you would then be able to have flash comp, right? It sounds like kindof a pain, but if the lighting is not expected to change then you'd only have to meter for ambient once... just a thought. Nick -- >From: "Bruce Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: MZ-S flash compensation >Date: Thu, Aug 23, 2001, 11:04 PM > > Yes you are missing something. We are talking about TTL flash as measured > by the camera body. The ISO setting on the flash is only for use when the > flash sensor is measuring it's own light. The AF500FTZ has no ISO setting. > It is only TTL. Therefore, to adjust flash output, you have to fool the > body sensor. The PZ-1p has that built into the body. The MZ-S does not. > > Hyper Program with flash compensation on the PZ-1p is very easy. Pal's > method on the MZ-S sounds very reasonable. I'm going to try it and see how > comfortable and easy it is in practice. > > Bruce Dayton > Sacramento, CA > > > - Original Message - > From: Pat White > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 6:02 PM > Subject: MZ-S flash compensation > > > I've never used a camera with provision for flash exposure compensation (I'm > presently, cheerfully, using an MZ-5n), but it sounds very convenient. > However, doesn't changing the ISO setting on the flash do exactly the same > thing? Hitting the ISO button on the Metz, then tapping the plus/minus > buttons to the desired setting isn't that onerous a job. Am I missing > something here? Hope I don't sound completely uninformed. > > Pat White > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re:The flagship dilemma (Was:MS-Z vs PZ-1p experience)
Max, how about: 1. dial exposure compensation (usually for flash it remains the same for several exposures, so you can skip this step) 2. press green button to get a shutter speed (don't worry, with flash connected, it'll always be below 1/180) 3. dial around previous shutter speed to cancel compensation and eventually add specific compensation for ambient light (for instance, for -1 flash compensation, dial shutter speed one stop slower, for +1 dial one stop faster). Maybe not as straightforward as with PZ-1p, but certainly much faster than MZ-5N and enough for me. Servus, Alin Max wrote: MM> I'm confused here. MM> I found it a major pain to do exposure comp. on the MZ-S with the 500FTZ. MM> Am I doing it right? MM> 1. Obtain exposure value by pressing green button with camera in Av mode. MM> 2. Note values and memorise them. MM> 3. Set those values via command wheel, (manual mode), making sure MM> the shutter speed in within 180/th sync speed, stopping down lens MM> until it is. MM> 4. Set your desired amount of exposure compensation on the exposure comp dial. MM> 5. Compose and shoot. MM> 6. Then reset the exp. comp. back to zero and repeat process all over again MM>for the next shot. MM> How can that be quicker than the Z1p's method? MM> Or have I missed something here? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Sports photographer mentality?
Metz 60CT series flashes also have a motor drive setting that keeps up at 5fps, but not with as much grunt as a Norman I'd guess. Mine will deliver 7 metres at f2 with ISO400 at the normal reflector setting. According to the Mecamat 60-30 sensor that's about equal to 1/64 power. In theory 1/32 should recycle in under 0.2sec but that assumes the capacitor's recharge curve is a straight line, and it probably isn't. FWIW I got my 60CT-1 in the early '80s when they were new to the market, and for a long time (perhaps still?) Metz 60s were regarded as THE handle mount flashgun to have when power and auto-exposure both mattered. And it didn't hurt that owners of 45CT-*s would turn green with envy when you could just keep hitting the shutter release with nary a care for recycling times. But my prime reason for getting a brute flashgun was to achieve daylight fill flash over a reasonable distance at the modest x-synch of older FP shutters. I suspect it is cheaper to increase the power of the flashgun than it is to make fast X-synching FP shutters, but for better or worse the manufacturers have decided to throw OUR money down the latter road. Perhaps it is more profitable for them to value-add the camera than it is to value-add their flashguns, or risk letting a 3rd party manufacturer like Metz or Braun or Sunpak take the sale (and profit) from them. Regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: "Robert Payne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > OK, Tom I'm busted. I spoke out of school on that one. Never used > a big-ol Norman, my flame thrower flash is a Sunpak 622 and since > I usually shoot 400 speed film at F5.6 on football games, it takes > about a second to recharge. > > ... > Like to make a small wager? A Norman 200B at 1/4 power will. But you give up > all automation with > that. > - --graywolf > > > Robert Payne wrote: > > > > no flash can keep up with a 4+ fps motordrive, > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: new camera
William Robb wrote: > > Be very careful with the upgrades. A friend of mine just > upgraded from Girlfriend V3.0 to Fiance V1.0. All sorts of > software issues came up that he wasn't prepared to deal with. I > have heard it gets even worse when you upgrade to Wife, any > version, but 1.0 seems most buggy, as there sometimes are a lot > of hardware conflicts. You also have to watch out for the terms of contacts. Unfortunately, one often retains financial liabilities for the old versions after moving on. (Oh, are we gonna get in trouble) Bob - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: new camera
Antti-Pekka Virjonen wrote: > > Don't you know you can upgrade them ? Just download new software versions > or hotfixes, but of course you need a maintenance contract for that ;-) > > I especially like the hotfixes myself... > > Oh' and I will be using my LX a long time as well :-) The LX should last a lifetime, with an occasional CLA. Not sure if that works for women, though. I keep trading mine in -- or vice versa. Bob - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: new camera
At 06:24 24.8.2001 -0600, William Robb wrote: >Be very careful with the upgrades. A friend of mine just >upgraded from Girlfriend V3.0 to Fiance V1.0. All sorts of >software issues came up that he wasn't prepared to deal with. I >have heard it gets even worse when you upgrade to Wife, any >version, but 1.0 seems most buggy, as there sometimes are a lot >of hardware conflicts. I know.. I know... I just upgraded (in June) from Wife V1.0 after the first year to V2.0 .. it works fluently so far :-) But I know it helps to have the software development kit and I can make small changes myself. But as you say, the hardware issues are pretty tricky at times. Just don't overload the CPU. Antti-Pekka --- * Antti-Pekka Virjonen * Fiskarsinkatu 7 D * GSM: +358 400 789753 * * Computec Oy Turku* FIN-20750 Turku Finland * Fax: +358 2 413 * - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: new camera
-- Original Message -- >- Original Message - >From: "Antti-Pekka Virjonen" >> Nahh... >> >> Don't you know you can upgrade them ? Just download new >software versions >> or hotfixes, but of course you need a maintenance contract for >that ;-) >> >> I especially like the hotfixes myself... > >Be very careful with the upgrades. A friend of mine just >upgraded from Girlfriend V3.0 to Fiance V1.0. All sorts of >software issues came up that he wasn't prepared to deal with. I >have heard it gets even worse when you upgrade to Wife, any >version, but 1.0 seems most buggy, as there sometimes are a lot >of hardware conflicts. You should also keep in mind that backwards compatibility between versions is virtually non-existant. Once you "upgrade" you pretty much have to reformat and start from scratch in order to go back. -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Sports photographer mentality?
> Richard Klein wrote: > > > How do you keep track of all the settings you took various pictures at? Do > > you have a data back or carry a notebook with you? I have a very small digital voice recorder that I take along when I think I need to record that kind of info, or when I'm traveling and want to remember exactly where I took that shot, especially something like an architectural detail. It's the size of a credit card, and only a bit thicker. Made by panasonic and others. Dan -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers & Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://danmatyola.com Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Interesting question about digital: Infrared
too good. >From: Gerald Wang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Interesting question about digital: Infrared >Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 23:50:57 -0400 (EDT) > >Here are some examples of IR photos taken with a Minolta Dimage 7: > >http://www.photoartworld.com/galleries/dimage/pages/PICT0014.htm >http://www.photoartworld.com/galleries/dimage/pages/PICT0033.htm >http://www.photoartworld.com/galleries/dimage/pages/PICT0039.htm >http://www.photoartworld.com/galleries/dimage/pages/PICT0043.htm > >I think the results speak for themselves, wouldn't you agree? According to >my friend, it is not hard to get good results with this camera. > >Regards, > >Gerald > >- >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: List Help? (Majordomo)
>From Majordomo: -- lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] serves the following lists: pentax-discuss This is the Pentax-Discuss Mail List pentax-discuss-digest Digest version of the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. pentax-discuss-nomail This is the Pentax-Discuss Mail List Use the 'info ' command to get more information about a specific list. -- So, yeah, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "subscribe pentax-discuss-nomail" in the body, but don't forget to unsubscribe from pentax-discuss and/or pentax-discuss-digest first. -Rich Bill Peifer wrote: > > Glenn Arthur wrote: > > On Listserv lists, I know I can set my status to "nomail" > > while remaining subscribed. Is there a way to do this > > here (on a Majordomo list)? > > Hi Glenn, > > Yes. I remember a message Doug Brewer sent to the list a few > months (?) ago > on this question. IIRC, you simply send the Majordomo command string, > "subscribe pentax-discuss nomail". Hope this helps. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: new camera
Doug Franklin wrote: > Same in the US. Anywhere from three months to seven or more years, > depending on the state and locality, and the law considers you married > (Common Law Marriage is the technical term, I think). Not here in NJ! Plus, we have the greatest hawk flyover in the fall, at Cape May, if you like to shot birds (with a camera, that is). -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers & Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://danmatyola.com Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: new camera
- Original Message - From: "Antti-Pekka Virjonen" Subject: Re: new camera > > Nahh... > > Don't you know you can upgrade them ? Just download new software versions > or hotfixes, but of course you need a maintenance contract for that ;-) > > I especially like the hotfixes myself... Be very careful with the upgrades. A friend of mine just upgraded from Girlfriend V3.0 to Fiance V1.0. All sorts of software issues came up that he wasn't prepared to deal with. I have heard it gets even worse when you upgrade to Wife, any version, but 1.0 seems most buggy, as there sometimes are a lot of hardware conflicts. WW - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: new camera
At 06:41 24.8.2001 -0400, Robert Harris wrote: >Paul Jones wrote: >> >> Not in Australia :) after a couple of years living together its considered >> the same as being married. > >How awful. > >Then you'd better be prepared to trade in your woman for a new model >every 23 months, or bear the consequences. :) Nahh... Don't you know you can upgrade them ? Just download new software versions or hotfixes, but of course you need a maintenance contract for that ;-) I especially like the hotfixes myself... Oh' and I will be using my LX a long time as well :-) Hmm.. sounds like it's Friday again, Antti-Pekka --- * Antti-Pekka Virjonen * Fiskarsinkatu 7 D * GSM: +358 400 789753 * * Computec Oy Turku* FIN-20750 Turku Finland * Fax: +358 2 413 * - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: List Help? (Majordomo)
Glenn Arthur wrote: > On Listserv lists, I know I can set my status to "nomail" > while remaining subscribed. Is there a way to do this > here (on a Majordomo list)? Hi Glenn, Yes. I remember a message Doug Brewer sent to the list a few months (?) ago on this question. IIRC, you simply send the Majordomo command string, "subscribe pentax-discuss nomail". Hope this helps. Bill Peifer Rochester, NY - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: new camera
Paul Jones wrote: > > Not in Australia :) after a couple of years living together its considered > the same as being married. How awful. Then you'd better be prepared to trade in your woman for a new model every 23 months, or bear the consequences. :) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
FS: LX body, AF280T, Grip & Bracket
UK dealer Truro Photographic. Tel: +44 1872 271096 £199/LX £69/280T £65/grip&bracket They also have an LX case on a Z10 body you could ask about. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
LX Screens and hairy bits
Hi all. Fist a little rave. I just got an sc-69 and an se-60 for my LX, and they do make a very significant difference indeed! Quite bright, and very sharp. However, one downside is you now see all the crud on the top screen, and the dust on the underplate much more clearly than before. Damn! Has anyone ever cleaned these plates? I'm reluctant to go at them, as I dont know what they are coated with, so alcohol based stuff might be out. Anyone any ideas? Thanks T. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Texas (yes it's way OT)
BTW, which Californian snuck a black widow spider in with the latest grape export to my original hometown? It wasn't a nice trick. Keep your wildlife to yourselves :) __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT: List Help? (Majordomo)
On Listserv lists, I know I can set my status to "nomail" while remaining subscribed. Is there a way to do this here (on a Majordomo list)? I've got two versions of my email address, depending on which machine I'm logged into (one of my home machines or my ISP's machine): [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] They both map to the same mailbox, but I can't post from my home machines, so it appears that the list is closed (i.e. only subscribers can post). I'd like to be able to post from both places, and what I thought was a clever scheme to do so was this: get a second subscription, to the other address, but set it to nomail so I'd still only receive one copy of each message. Except that I don't see "nomail" mentioned in the Majordomo help file. Can I do this? -- Glenn - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Flash Compensation (WAS:Fw: The flagship dilemma (Was:MS-Z vs PZ-1p experience))
Pål wrote: Z-1p: 1. In aperture priority mode set whatever exposure you want but make sure that shutterspeed don't exceed the synch speed. 2: Turn dial (1) to flash symbol. 3. Press button (2) on dial (1) 4. While doing step 3. above, turn dial (3) until desired exposure compensation is achieved. 5. Shot as many shots as you like. If you want to vary the ambient exposure press exposure compensation button (4). While doing this turn dial (4) until desired exposure compensation is reached. Alternatively; turn dial (1) to the mode setting. Scroll with dial ...etc to manual mode. Set the desired exposure. 6. When finished, turn dial (1) to flash symbol. Press button (2) on dial (1). While doing this turn dial (3) until desired exposure compensation is achieved - in this case zero. Pål, I have never used this method. I simply go to Pentax Function 7 and change it to option 1, then I go to the flash function on the program wheel and dial in however much comp. I want and that's it! One press of the IF button to set exsposure and ensure shutter speed is within sync. speed for the aperture chosen, and you have instant fill flash. Your way is far too complicated and totally unnecessary. That's what I meant when I said how simple the Z1p was compared with the MZ-S. The MZ-S way too time consuming and a pain in the butt when you have a wedding to do, for instance. I'm dying to get my hands on the AF360FGZ to see just how easy it is to do fill flash with. Regards, Max - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .