Re: what I think of....[information]
Hi, Mike Johnston wrote: I disagree. Sometimes, it CAN hurt. Trivial but common example: a photographer makes the decision to throw the background in a portrait out of focus. Less information; better picture. I disagree, too. _Not_ less information - the same amount of information presented in a different way. mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PDML Digiital Printing Challenge
Whatever you think shows off your printer. Since the comparison is to mini-lab prints 4x6 is OK. So far everyone has sent bigger prints. One fellow from overseas made an A2 size print and physically cropped it to fit in the envelope he was using. It works. --graywolf - The optimist's cup is half full, The pessimist's is half empty, The wise man enjoys his drink. - Original Message - From: Kevin Waterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 1:21 AM Subject: Re: PDML Digiital Printing Challenge Tom Rittenhouse wrote: With three submissions in I have to say that the new generation of inkjet printers is far better than I thought they would be. Also it is already clear that operator skill is a big factor in print quality. Sorry if this has been mentioned before, but what size prints are we talking here? Kevin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Remembrance Day pics and poetry up...
Hi, Michael Beacom wrote: On the subject of scanners. Does anyone have any experience with the Canoscan FS2720U or FS2710. Only the previous model, which I am not enamoured of.. If they have some software called Scancraft bundled with it, use the CD as a coaster - it will be less frustrating. Vuescan is the way to go. mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: photo printers
The deadline is only for the contest for the rating of PDML 2001 Master Digital Printer. Anything received after 15/12/01 will be considered for 2002 if I am still doing the challenge. However, all prints received will be used for the printer quality rating which I will publish on the list once a month. Also I will sent a private e-mail giving you my rating of your print. If you want to share that with the list that is your choice. --graywolf - The optimist's cup is half full, The pessimist's is half empty, The wise man enjoys his drink. - Original Message - From: Rob Geraghty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 1:19 AM Subject: RE: photo printers Tom Rittenhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can only rate printers I have seen prints from, so send me one from those printers. That is what the challenge was from the start. Show me! I'd love to, but not possible in the time frame you've allowed. I live in Australia, and who knows how long snail mail takes to get from here to there post September 11. Even before that it took more than two weeks to get to the US east coast. Possibly a useful exercise would be to have a 6x4 photographic print and a 6x4 inkjet print. This would easily demonstrate how much more information can appear in the inkjet print compared to the photographic print. Regards, Rob Rob Geraghty [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wordweb.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Test Message - Please Ignore This
I changed ISPs. Need to make sure the mail is working. Len --- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: way OT: does Adorama repair TLRs?
SH Last time I looked, a year ago or so, my Yashicamat meter was just fine. SH Does the deterioration depend on how much light exposure it receives? Would SH one last much longer if usually cased and in a bag and/or closet? SH Stan Well, I am no expert, but IIRC humidity is not good for selenium meters. So a well-sealed one can last very long (like the L398 sekonic g). Frantisek - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Film for ballet performance
[...] KW speed and fstop you used. Ballet can be a difficult subject for KW photography, I rate it alongside Rock'n'Roll photography for KW degree of difficulty. If I remember some of the amateur venues and clubs I shot in, the lighting man must have been drunk. Punks don't need light, maybe, but my trusty 1.4/50 with 3200 pushed HP5+ was giving me about 1/8-1/15 readings... Back to colour film - a friend who photographs RR concerts much more than me uses Fuji Press 800, pushed to 1600 (IIRC, some older thread here, the Fuji press 800 is _same_ as Fuji superia 800). I shoot mostly BW concerts, though, but in colour, I use Kodak Supra 800 pushed to 1600 (I have faster lenses though G). When we last talked about it, he said that in his opinion the Fuji gives better shadow detail but more saturated colours (sometimes not wanted in concerts, where colour spotlights are saturated well enough to start with), over the Supra 800. So consider these two films pushed 1 stop (I know, I know, Bill, pushing a colour film is oxymoron, I have seen the lab results and graphs, there is NO increase in speed in the Supra 800 nor Superia 800 when pushing them, they are just easier to print at 1600 than at 800 underexposed). HTH, Frantisek - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Film for ballet performance
WR I've always been a voice in the wilderness regarding HC:110. I WR like the stuff. It does well with TMZ. Truthfully, so does D-76 WR if you give it long enough. T-Max developer gives one of the WR flattest characteristic curves I have seen with TMZ, but I find WR it a rather expensive developer to use, considering the WR benefits. I have had good results with TMZ souped in Ilford Microphen (my _THE_ pushing developer, I develop HP5+ to 3200 in it). Microphen gives better shadow detail but slightly larger grain to Kodak's TMY than Xtol 1+1, so I guess it would be a well suited developer to TMZ. Interestingly, I got better results on TMZ with Microphen than with hot-processed (24 deg. C) T-MAX developer. But the negs were a bit flat, that's right. I should have prolonged the souping time I think. Still, I think Microphen is one of the very best low-light developers, and it gives pleasant grain pattern with most films (sometimes suprisingly small). And it is the cheapest push developer you can get! For pushing, I use it undiluted, and throw it away after use (I buy the big packs). A 2.5l pack is good for about 12-13 pushed films. My friend who does RR concerts much longer than me uses pushed Tri-X and Tetenal Emofin for some really good photos. But Emofin is much too expensive for me, it is about 4x-6x more expensive per film than Microphen. HTH, Frantisek - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PDML Members Web Sites List has moved
Sorry, wrong address. Paul, did you get it? As you can see I'm still alive and reading the PDML. Ciao, Flavio - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Cross reference of Modern and Pop Photo Pentax tests???
Does there exist a cross reference of Pentax camera and lens tests conducted by Modern or Popular Photography? I'm particularly interested on tests of the Pentax 645 camera and lenses! Thanks. Alex - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The weakest link?
Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: [Image file formats with color management data included.] I believe the PNG graphics format does that. I'm not sure because I don't use that format (pretty much no one does) and, like GIF, it's supposedly not very well suited to photographic images. The PNG format does support up to 48-bit truecolor or 16-bit grayscale, with lossless compression. In addition, a complete color management system (sRGB) is supported. It is not the most convenient format for publishing since a typical PUG entry would be around 500 kB in size. -- http://members.chello.nl/~j.schoone\\|// Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org Assume nothing, expect anything. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: film formats
Collin Brendemuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The discussion of image size usually revolves around resolution. There's another advantage to larger formats that's more important (to me, anyway) and which is often unrecognized. Tonal quality. Larger negs give more even distribution of tonal scale and prevents or at least minimizes the excessive contrast that often accompanies 35mm images. With this characteristic in mind, I personally find 645 to be perfectly adequate for conveying a suitable amount of information to express this character of an image. (I do realize that it's a result of resolution [detail, information]. But still it's a distinct characteristic.) I think you have something here, Collin. I just made a print from a 645 transparancy using my Minolta Scan Multi and Epson 1270. Because the Minolta only scans medium format at 1125 dpi, I had to scale it up with Genuine Fractals to print 8 x 10 size, but it still looks better to me than most of my 35mm stuff printed at that size. I think the better tonal range may have something to do with it. -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: what I think of....[information]
mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike Johnston wrote: I disagree. Sometimes, it CAN hurt. Trivial but common example: a photographer makes the decision to throw the background in a portrait out of focus. Less information; better picture. I disagree, too. _Not_ less information - the same amount of information presented in a different way. We're looking at different meanings of information here. In the technical (computer) sense, there's just as much information in out-of-focus parts of an image as in the sharp parts, but as far as a human being looking at it is concerned, there's less information there. -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Neat Looking Software for Photoshop and more ...
On Wed, 28 Nov 2001 17:29:32 -0800, you wrote: I've not examined this little trove of software and information, but you might find something of interest or value here: http://www.digitaltruth.com/software.html The first download on this page is f/calc, which is a nifty calculator for everything optical. Windoze users will enjoy this one, even just to play with for a few minutes. It's been a stable installation for me on Win98. Another download linked on this page is CompuPic. I used it extensively at some time in the past, and finally gave up on it due to instability. But software evolves, sometimes even for the better, so YMMV. -- John Mustarde - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: what I think of....[information]
Hi, Mark Roberts wrote: We're looking at different meanings of information here. In the technical (computer) sense, there's just as much information in out-of-focus parts of an image as in the sharp parts, but as far as a human being looking at it is concerned, there's less information there. I think I am still going to disagree with you. Just because it's not the information one expects to see, doesn't mean that there is less of it. In the given example, there will seen a lot of information about colour shades as opposed to shape information. The shape information is there, just not in the form expected. I realise that this is pedantry but, as pedants do, I think it is quite important. It is one of the basic tenets of art that there is more to it than meets the eye.. mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
PDML Digiital Printing Challenge(size)
I sent Tom two prints,one 8x10 and 2 on a single sheet,1 a 4x5 and 1 a 4x6. All three prints were done a different way to show different resolutions etc. The 4x5 was made by changing image size to 4x6(ish) then croped to 4x5.(res about 300) The 4x6 was croped from a 8x12.(res about 164) The 8x10 was imaged sized to 8x12 from 18x27 which i promptly printed out before i had a chance to render unsharpen mask but still did not look to bad(res about 164) Hope this helps Dave Begin Original Message From: Kevin Waterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 17:21:29 +1100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PDML Digiital Printing Challenge Tom Rittenhouse wrote: With three submissions in I have to say that the new generation of inkjet printers is far better than I thought they would be. Also it is already clear that operator skill is a big factor in print quality. Sorry if this has been mentioned before, but what size prints are we talking here? Kevin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: AF360FTZ - First Impressions
I guess I'm not sure... I'd speculate that it does not matter how far away from the subject the flash is, but the manual does specify that the RTF and wireless AF360 will both fire test flashes to determine metering, and then go off together, so maybe they have to be within 4 meters of the subject for that to work. My guess is that the RTF and AF360 must be within 4 meters of each other. That works out to about 13 feet, which should be more than enough for most situations. Also, there is a PF that allows the RTF to be or not to be used in computing exposure, Bill, KG4LOV [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: MX Variations
Finally made it back home. Almost made it all the way home with the top down. Finally had to put it up with 50 miles to go :-( At least I drove around Miami yesterday with it down ;-) Finally have my MX in hand and can address this issue. I have a chrome model, bought used, with a 9282797 serial number. The prism has the AOCo logo and Asahi and Pentax on it. It has Asahi Opt. Co. on the back of the top plate below the film advance lever. The holder on the back is not quite square, but seems like it is compared to the rectangular one on the LX. The holder is metal with no markings. The chrome tongue inside is 49mm tall. The on/off switch still has the plastic insert. I was not aware that these tend to come up missing. The film counter numbers do appear slightly engraved and matte. The battery cover is engraved with black letters BATTERY - OPEN. César Matamoros II finally back in Panama City, Florida -Original Message- From: Shel Belinkoff [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 5:57 AM To: Pentax List Subject: MX Variations Yesterday I received my new MX, a lovely looking black beauty. After bad mouthing these cameras a while back, I had a chance to play around a little with Juan Buhler's MX, which felt a lot better than mine, so I decided to give the MX another try. While examining the two bodies side-by-side, I noticed that the chrome model has a square holder on the back for the film identification tag, while the black one has a rectangular holder, like the one on my ME Super, which says Asahi Opt. Co. on the frame. The chrome model has a blank frame. However, the chrome model has Asahi Opt. Co. Japan stamped into the rear of the top plate, below the film advance lever. The black one doesn't. The serial numbers on the bottom plates are separated by more than 500,000, which seems like a lot of MXs. The SN of the black camera is 429 and the SN of the chrome model is 943 So, I was wondering how many variations there may be of the MX, and if there's a record somewhere of the number produced. Were they all produced in Japan, or were some produced in other countries? I've not run any film through the new MX, so I've no comments yet on its feel and how solid it may be. Visually, it's a dream. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/pow/enter.html http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/cameras/pentax_repair_shops.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: PUG News - Intro
Love your Iceland shots.Nice. Welcome to the list Dave Brooks Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Cross reference of Modern and Pop Photo Pentax tests???
I've found that the lens tests are listed in the computerized index of magazine articles at the public library. I don;t know the exact name of it, but I'm sure other public libraries use something comparable. Put in the lens name and the tests pop up. Of course, I always wonder when no matches are found - is that because the lens was not reviewed or because the catalog missed it? - MCC At 06:26 AM 11/29/01 -0500, you wrote: Does there exist a cross reference of Pentax camera and lens tests conducted by Modern or Popular Photography? I'm particularly interested on tests of the Pentax 645 camera and lenses! Thanks. Alex - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Kalamazoo, MI [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - - - - - - - - - Photos: http://www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Yashica model number??
Playing e mail tag with my sister over this Yashica- Mat and trying to get a model number. All she can give me is: Yasical copal-mxv on or near the front of camera. On the top is MT 2xx which i assume is the serial number. Do any of these make sense as to a model of Yashica Mat? I have found a site which has opertions manuals but non of these numbers are there. One thing i'm sure of is, it is a Yashica-Mat. Dave Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?RE=3A=20pentax=2D discuss=2Ddigest=20V1=20=231646 ?=
On Wednesday, November 28, 2001, at 10:04 PM, Rob Geraghty wrote: The eX and 1270 aren't part of the current crop. You really want to look at output from the 1290 and C80. I'm shocked the 1270 rated lower than the eX, because the 1270 is altogether a better printer. We had an EX, upgraded to a 1200, upgraded to a 7500. I'd say that the biggest difference between the 7500 and the EX/1200 is that the 1200 gave us the ability to print some nuclear unrealistic colours that we cannot print with the pigment set of the 7500. Of course, they are colours that are also not available in chemical colour printing. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: push 1600 to 3200
- Original Message - From: Kevin Waterson Subject: push 1600 to 3200 I have a very low light situation and was going to use an ilford 3200 but then I though, why not use some of this Fuji 1600 color film I have in the fridge and set the MZ-S to 3200 manually? Any pitfalls of doing this? I can apprciate more grain but can live with that. How many more stops would I gain? 2? None. Push processing doesn't work. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Bulk film
- Original Message - From: Delano Mireles Subject: Bulk film Can someone explain how a bulk film loader works and when do you think it is worth it to use? You put a long roll of film into the loader, and then attach a film cassette to the end of the film and close the thing. You then roll off the desired number of exposures into the cassette. You can no longer use the film up to the last frame, as it is light fogged at the end (unless you tape the film on and close the cassette in the dark). I think bulk loading is most useful when self processing film as most bulk loaded film that I have seen, including my own, has the tape stuck too far along the film. It then binds the cutter blades on the minilab style film processors and causes a cutter failure. This results in the film being pulled off the leader card, where it then sits in the developer until someone notices and pulls it out. If you are lucky, no one elses film gets wrecked in the process. Minilabs generally have no way of going dark, so a film fallen off in the developer is pretty much a write off. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
PUG - long wait
Looks like I'll have a long wait to see if the photo I submitted is shown in PUG. I missed the deadline for December. :( By January I may be incommunicado in Japan... I'll just have to find the time to upload some more photos to my website! Rob - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Late PUG comment-Trottier
Sorry this is late but i meant to comment on this shot earlier,busy with my yearbooks. This pictureThe Bunker by Phillippe Trottier was the one that first caught my eye Nov 1. The contrast between the white snow and brown building is great.It ozzes peace and tranquility. Also it reminds me of some of the places i have lived in in my survey years on out of town work in Northern Ontario Canada Dave Brooks Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: AF360FTZ - First Impressions
In a message dated 11/28/01 11:05:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I too wondered about the lack of the swivel head and the vertical grip. I hope to do some test shots in the next couple of days. OK, I know this is subjective, but how many times does the ~AVERAGE~ photographer swivel their flash head? Not talking about we serious hobbyists mind you, but average photographers. *For that matter, what percentage of people, in this world of one-use and P Shoot cameras w/built-in flashes, even ~own~ a stand alone flash? Scene: a Botanica. A man is shooting flowers with what was the first PENTAX Program Plus another PENTAX owner had ever seen. After introducing himself, the now curious photographer asks: Q: Hey mister, did you get a flash for that fancy camera of yours? A: Duh-yeah, but I don't know how to operate the darn thing. Q: The flash? A: No, the camera. Q: Where's the flash, you could sure use it on those flowers in the shade? A: Still packed in the box it came in. Q: Wanna sell it? A: Uh-uh...yeah, I don't use it...how much you offering? Q: What is it? A: Umm, a 280 something. Q: Like a 280T? A: Yeah, I think so. Q: I'm a little strapped now said the curious photographer, (in that era before ATMs); Would $30 do? A: Nope, I'll have to mail it and that costs money. Q: Curious photographer asks: Q: $35? A: OK. 11 days later, me, the curious photographer, opened up the box holding the first AF280T I'd even seen**. **Ill-gotten gains are never enjoyed: I walked off from a flight bag holding the 280 in the Philadelphia airport. By the time I got back to where the bag had been... DRAT!! Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: why EI-2000 is total CRAP, UNUSABLE for anything but strong daylight!
In a message dated 11/28/01 11:05:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That does suck. Is there an option on the camera to lock the aperture? The CP990 has a variable aperture, but there's an option to lock it so it simulates a constant aperture zoom. The Pz-1p has the same ability with variable zooms. While I agree, no serious photographer should own or use a non-dedicated flash with variable aperture zooms. **a dedicated flash sets the aperture per the film speed. Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Slow today or did i get booted off again
You mean you still don't know after two years? Frits Wüthrich tom wrote: Okee dokee, moving on...I bought an FA 85/1.4 about 2 years ago. Can anyone tell me if it's any good? tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: OT:Full size PS prints
I'll drop a line off list Aaron just not sure when i can do this,Xmas stuff and all and 2 horse shows over the next 3 weekends.What would you need? Just the file.jpg on a disk?? and let your PS or equivilant do its thing. I realize it would not look to great but Tom's tweaked my interest. Dave Begin Original Message From: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 14:46:49 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT:Full size PS prints On Thursday, November 29, 2001, at 01:58 PM, David Brooks wrote: When i open a .Jpg taken from the dreaded D1, the app. size is 18 x 27 inches on the image screen at a res. of 72. If one wanted to print that size off,were might one go?? To Oakville, where my store is. We do digital printing up to 24x36. :) Woohoo! Free advertising! I don't think it'll look stellar that big, tho'. Drop me a line off list if you need directions. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Viruses Worms Everywhere
Norton hasn't detected any on my machine in that time frame. but I've seen several posts on the Meade list by different people in the last several days who were sent viruses. Tom C. - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 12:20 PM Subject: Viruses Worms Everywhere I don't know about you all, but in the last three days I've received eleven email messages that contained a virus or a worm. Be careful out there ... -- Shel Belinkoff - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Slow today or did i get booted off again
Frits J. Wüthrich wrote: You mean you still don't know after two years? Yeah, I've only shot about 8 or 9 hundred frames with it. While we're at it...what's a good filter? tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Slow today or did i get booted off again
Len Paris wrote: Of course, I'm only a hack, so what would I know. ;-) You and me both, buddy. I guess that would make us Buddy Hacks. Har! tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Slow today or did i get booted off again
tom wrote: While we're at it...what's a good filter? h ? -- bigdayphoto.com HAR! !8^D - Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: photo printers
The Challenger or Prints (for it is he) wrote: The deadline is only for the contest for the rating of PDML 2001 Master Digital Printer. Anything received after 15/12/01 will be considered for 2002 if I am still doing the challenge. However, all prints received will be used for the printer quality rating which I will publish on the list once a month. Also I will sent a private e-mail giving you my rating of your print. If you want to share that with the list that is your choice. For general expediancy, I will share Graywolf's email to me regarding the Epson Stylus Photo EX print I sent him... Hi Cotty, I received you print today. Nice picture. Epson PhotoEX. Rating E. Equal to a good minilab print. The halftoning while visible with the loupe is nicely randomised. Since I have seen lesser quality prints from newer Epsons, your skill is certainly a big factor here. I felt gratified: I expected a D, maybe. 8-) One thing I would say on this score: creating a top quality scan from a neg, and creating a good quality inkjet print from a top quality scan are two seperate things with different workflows involved. Cheers, Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Cotty's Pentax Mods December update posted...
Well, hey - it's nearly December. I figured the PDML would like a smile before you head off for the weekend doing your own things, and hopefully burning some film... I've posted a December update to my Pentax Mods, with particular reference to a brand new product, inspired fairly recently here on the list by a certain Mr. Belinkoff. Go to http://www.macads.co.uk/pentax/ have a look at the 'flocking' link... Have a great weekend - tomorrow's POETS day (Piss Off Early Tomorrow's Saturday) Cheers Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Take cover!
As one of the participants in the discussion, I would have to say that if bad advice or mis-information is bandied about on any topic that arises, it is hard to let it go past. However, I think it reasonable to stop after one correction and one refutation! I tend not to want anyone to moderate this list, as that would reduce the liveliness of the discussions - but there is no excuse for bad language, insults, etc a la 'The Who' (said with fingers crossed). John Coyle Brisbane, Australia On Wednesday, November 28, 2001 2:32 PM, Mike Johnston [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: Okay, since opening salvos in a gathering flame war have now been fired by both sides, I move that we, the PDML, agree that this is not a list for discussing taxes, taxation, and government fiscal matters. All in favor say aye. Aye, --Mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Take cover!
As one of the participants in the discussion mentioned, I would have to say that if bad advice or mis-information is bandied about on any topic that arises, it is hard to let it go past. However, I think it reasonable to stop after one correction and one refutation! I tend not to want anyone to moderate this list, as that would reduce the liveliness of the discussions - but there is no excuse for bad language, insults, etc a la 'The Who' (said with fingers crossed). My vote is, therefore, Nay John Coyle Brisbane, Australia On Wednesday, November 28, 2001 2:32 PM, Mike Johnston [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: Okay, since opening salvos in a gathering flame war have now been fired by both sides, I move that we, the PDML, agree that this is not a list for discussing taxes, taxation, and government fiscal matters. All in favor say aye. Aye, --Mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Latest PUG Assignment : FACIT
Sorry this is so late but I didn't know that Facit = Fabio Cittadini. Makes sense NOW though :) SO... Whirls By Facit It looked like a man-hole cover at first :) Could easily have been the top of a hot air balloon as well. But it's a building. Looks like it was really close but then I noticed it's a 500mm lens (drooling). The building in the upper right corner is a little distracting.. There's an interesting blue shadow on the top ( far side) of the disc, was it a cloud? Not much detail in the water on my screen but I guess it was a little way from your position... Once I get past the what the heck IS that thing? phase, the disc isn't all that interesting. I'd be interested to see the other shots you took from this location that might include some more elements. Oh, and what are those things on the outer circle of the disc? Lightning-rods perhaps? I wonder if it's possible to take a shot of the top of this building anymore... Nice shot Good Shooting Cory Waters - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: What We All Need
Thanks! My next $75 is going towards 384mb RAM to upgrade my PIII. Maybe Photoshop will run reasonably fast then. BTW, it's an HP Pavilion. Currently has 64mb RAM, Win98 V2, PIII 500, 8mb video ram, 20gig hard drive. I have never seen a machine access the hard drive so often as this one does. I'm not overly impressed with it. 384mb RAM is the most it'll take. Tom C. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 9:43 AM Subject: Re: What We All Need Hey Tom, How about I sell you my old 10.4 diag 486 Toshiba Laptop with Wallmaster installed. Digital picture frame extraordinare! (I've been looking for something to do with it.) g Regards, Bob S. Looking through the Dec 2001 issue of the BH catalog I came across something no one should live without. :-) Digital picture frames. They come in two sizes. The screen is TFT. One has a 3.9 diag screen. It is only $299. The other has a 5.6 diag screen. It is $449. Holds up to 500 photos in JPEG format, has buttons for fwd, rev, pause and a wheel to navigate menus. Loads via serial interface on PC or Mac/takes a microdrive or smartmedia. Order yours today! Tom C. (getting geared up for Friday PDML) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Slow today or did i get booted off again
Okee dokee, moving on...I bought an FA 85/1.4 about 2 years ago. Can anyone tell me if it's any good? tv Well, how much did you pay for it? Better yet, send it to me and I'll tell you if it's good or not in a year or so :) Cory Waters always needs more lenses - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Fuji Frontier prints from Slides
I'm a Frontier fan too, after getting some amazing results from stuff I shot in London and Paris earlier this year, developed in London. And the provision of an index print makes my filing much more consistent and timely! Hey, is this OT and at risk of being censored? John Coyle Brisbane, Australia On Friday, November 30, 2001 2:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: Hi, gang. SNIP Believe me, if you have a good lab with a Frontier machine in your town, take some of your slides and give them a try. Albano happy - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Viruses Worms Everywhere
Shel, Were they in attachments or embedded in HTML? I'd just like to know what to watch out for. Regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't know about you all, but in the last three days I've received eleven email messages that contained a virus or a worm. Be careful out there ... -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
HELP!!! Print Challenge. info lost
I had a major computer crash last night. My copies of the PDML Digital Printer Challenge info are lost. If anyone has a copy of the last post (PDML Digital Printer Challenge (REPOST)), I would appreciate it very much if they would send me a copy of it. Hard to run a contest when the guy running it doesn't have the rules. And it has become a contest, because now there is going to be a Grand Prize. I am going to write a post about that as soon as I get this one off. Watch for it. --graywolf - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
What users of what other 35mm Systems do you find to be Good Eggs?
I've stumbled across a few other users the last few years as a Rank (and, btw, growing Ranker --- Mother Superior won't meet with me unless I'm hosed off by the Fire Department with Raid - And I have formative observations: Olympus, by an large, are kinder gentler better photographers. Nikon varies all over the road map. Canon EOS folks are clueless at the zoo. Most of them put their bayonet lens hoods on BACKWARDS in my local. I kid you not. Minolta: Is that a pair of binoculars? Digital folks: I love to watch folks at the zoo with about an f8-11 zoom hold the damn thing at arm's length to shoot. Pentaxians: Most of them I've met fall into three catagories: My wife, who does VERY VERY WELL, Photography Teachers Who Feel Obligated To Own Only A K1000, and folks (I suspect) like y'all, in dim misty bars sucking down expensive liquor that's older than any living human being. Folks in the last group never show me anything but have a certain aura. comments?As Cotty says, shields up! -Lon - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Monopod for heavy camera
John Mustarde wrote: My standard monopod outfit is the 600/4 and Wimberly on the 3249B. It is a good combination. I have tried other monopods - some heavier, some with fewer sections. But I like the 3249B best of all, and it seems to easily support the weight of the 600/4 and Wimberly. I've used this combo for three years or more, and carted it around for as much as eight miles and eight hours at a stretch. Of course, I monitor the condition of the leg locks during every outing. So far, no loosening or breakage, knock on wood. John seems to be our Long Lens Artist In Residence. I, for one, listen to what he says on such matters. -Lon - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Replacing Foam - Lots of Questions
Shel Belinkoff wrote: The foam seals around the back door of one of my MX bodies and one of my ME S bodies needs replacement. It's sticky and gooey in some spots. How difficult a job is this? Where might I get appropriate foam? Is there a special type of foam for this situation. If I decide to farm the job out to a repair shop, is it simple enough that any good shop could do the work? Is it expensive? Would $50.00 or so do the trick? Shel, you can buy this at Fargo. If you're willing to undergo a session with lighter fluid, Qtips (some sharpened), and then contact cement and Fargo foam, it's cheaper. This is one place where High Precision Repairs don't mean too much. On the other hand, if you love your local Repair Man, give him the business, IMHO. -Lon - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
GRAND PRIZE! PDML Dital Printer Challenge
There is now a Grand Prize for the best print submitted by 15 December 2001. I will go by postmark so those farther away have the same chance as those who are closer. Donated by a Pentax Rep, the Grand Prize is a rare and collectable piece of Pentax memorabilia. It will never even be unwrapped (I am afraid that if I look at it , it will somehow get lost grin), I will just put a label to the winner on the package and send it. The following is a copy of his offer ** Tom, Your very own local Pentax rep will contribute a prize for your contest. It's a Swiss Army style large pocket knife. It has about a dozen stainless steel 'blades' and tools and features a wood handle with PENTAX lasercarved into it. An instant collectors' item, for sure. It is not a Pentax made product, of course, it is a promotional piece made a few years ago. It is not available from Pentax and is never likely to again be available from Pentax. In fact, you are not likely to ever see another one. I have one, only one, brand new in a box. Please let your contestants know that your local Pentax rep responded to some of your threats of physical assault and came up with this very limited production piece for your contest. You asked for a 31mm Limited, but I turned you down. If anyone asks if there are more than this one available, the answer is no. That should encourage some increased participation, I'd think. Please let me know if you want to use it for your contest. If not, I'll put it back into my cabinet and find some special event down the road for it. This is one of those cool little thingies that I wish I had dozens of, oh well. * So get those prints in the mail by 15 December 2001. The best quality print, in my opinion, will win. PDML Challenge c/o Tom Rittenhouse 4018 Hiddenbrook Dr Charlotte, NC 28205 USA --graywolf - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Viruses Worms Everywhere
I think my computer crash last night might have been due to a virus. Norton is no help. The system was getting a little flaky so I ran Norton Antivirus. It said the MBR had been changed so I selected Replace MBR and continued to run Norton. It showed no other problems. When it finished a You Need to Restart Windows window came up. I clicked on OK. The computer rebooted, but came up with Can Not Find 'C:\WINDOWS|COMMAND.COM. Checking I found the raw partitions were still there but apparently the FATs had been erased on all four partitions including the none DOS ones. I have been all night restoring the system. Unfortunately I have not backed up anything since I put in the new hard drive back in October. I hadn't even synchronized the laptop to it since 11/10 so I lost a lot of info. But notice, Norton Antivirus reported no problems other than the changed MBR. In fact NAV seems to have triggered the virus. So be careful. --graywolf - Original Message - From: aimcompute [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 2:32 PM Subject: Re: Viruses Worms Everywhere Norton hasn't detected any on my machine in that time frame. but I've seen several posts on the Meade list by different people in the last several days who were sent viruses. Tom C. - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 12:20 PM Subject: Viruses Worms Everywhere I don't know about you all, but in the last three days I've received eleven email messages that contained a virus or a worm. Be careful out there ... -- Shel Belinkoff - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: S in MZ-S
Mick Maguire wrote: Seriously I think that the epithets given to most products these days are purely designed by marketing to tap into consumer perceptions: like adding GTI or GTE or X to a car name, it's not so much what it stands for (eg. GTI was supposed to mean Grand Tourer Injection), as I doubt most people are bothered, it's more how it feels. An S somehow feels more prestigious than a number in the minds of the consumer... therefore to come back to my original speculation, I would say Superfluous In the Pentax line, a final X has meant something. KX, MX, LX. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Viruses Worms Everywhere
The one that got me was, I think, a script embedded in an e-mail. When I selected the e-mail to delete it, it ran. It gave me a script cannot complete message. Norton did not detect it. --graywolf - Original Message - From: Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 7:18 PM Subject: Re: Viruses Worms Everywhere Shel, Were they in attachments or embedded in HTML? I'd just like to know what to watch out for. Regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't know about you all, but in the last three days I've received eleven email messages that contained a virus or a worm. Be careful out there ... -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Viruses Worms Everywhere
I've not seen anything embedded in HTML, but, in all honesty, I'm not sure what to look for. What I received were attachments sent, in part, through mailing list messages. The ones that came my way were blank messages, the sender of which had an odd aspect to his/her email address. The addresses looked like this: [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Note the underscore proceeding the actual address. In addition, I received a few pieces that were recognizable attachments sent from email addresses of people I did business with on ebay, although they professed no knowledge of sending the messages. I do know that some of the messages I received came from people whose address was part of a group mailing made by clients or friends. I cannot stress strongly enough that if you're going to send a message to a group of people you should suppress the list of recipients. I believe it's safer, as well as just good manners. Finally, just before reading your message, I received a message from ... [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Without a doubt these viruses and worms are spreading rapidly and, it seems, are becoming more sophisticated. Anthony Farr wrote: Shel, Were they in attachments or embedded in HTML? I'd just like to know what to watch out for. Regards, Anthony Farr -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Diopter correction adapters (-3, +1) available
Is the +1 gone yet? If not, I want it. Ken On Thursday 29 November 2001 10:02, you wrote: Hello, I have two Asahi Pentax SMC correction lens adapters available to anyone who can use them: a -3 for K (and ES, I believe) cameras and a +1 for the M series. I'll send them for the cost of shipping and a padded envelope. $1 each? $2? Or make me an offer. Joe Joe Wilensky Staff Writer Media and Technology Services - Cornell University 1150 Comstock Hall Ithaca, NY 14853-0901 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel: 607-255-1575 fax: 607-255-9873 Please visit our Web site at http://www.mediasrv.cornell.edu -- Kenneth Archer + San Antonio, Texas [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ #24980801 Powered by Linux ++ Mailed by Kmail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Censorship-not
The problem with that Mike, is that those kind of responses very quickly turn any list into hell. A few years back I was running my own newsserver. When there were a lot of complaints about off topic posts, I checked. There were about ten times as many posts complaining about off topic posts then there were off topic posts. Who was wasting more bandwidth? If you don't like a topic, the way to handle it is to ignore it. The only other workable way of dealing with them is active censorship. The other thing is that the only way anything is going to turn into a long thread is if people are interested in the subject. You may not be, but all the people posting other than get off the list in the thread obviously are. I remember that when you came on the list almost the first thing you did is complain about off topic posts. You periodically bring it up again and again. I guess this is getting personal because I for one am getting awful tired of OT posts complaining of OT posts g. I seem to be one of the few who defend the list remaining open to whatever the members of the list want to talk about. Maybe the others who want it that way are tired of the endless demands of Digest Subscribers that the list have nothing in it except what they want to read. I would say that the digest is a convenience for people who only want to partially participate in the list. It is after all a mailing list. But if everyone wants to change the list to something other than the list I subscribed to and love, go ahead. It will just no longer be a list where I want to hang out. --graywolf - Original Message - From: Mike Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 10:59 AM Subject: Censorship-not If the rest of us jump all over somebody and give him hell because he's spouting something we don't want to hear, that not censorship, because we're in no position to enforce our views--the poster can go ahead and post more messages on that topic if he wants to. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Diopter correction adapters (-3, +1) available
I could sure use the +1, Joe. Be glad to pay shipping or even a few bucks for it. I suppose someone has beaten me to it though. --graywolf - Original Message - From: Joe Wilensky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 11:02 AM Subject: Diopter correction adapters (-3, +1) available Hello, I have two Asahi Pentax SMC correction lens adapters available to anyone who can use them: a -3 for K (and ES, I believe) cameras and a +1 for the M series. I'll send them for the cost of shipping and a padded envelope. $1 each? $2? Or make me an offer. Joe Joe Wilensky Staff Writer Media and Technology Services - Cornell University 1150 Comstock Hall Ithaca, NY 14853-0901 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel: 607-255-1575 fax: 607-255-9873 Please visit our Web site at http://www.mediasrv.cornell.edu - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: S in MZ-S
but the point was about standing or something acronymicly. the X in LX MX etc is a good example of my point, whilst it may mean top of the series or suchlike, I haven't seen a claim that it stands for something. I guess it's the same with the S too. Regards, /\/\ick... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lon Williamson Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 8:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: S in MZ-S Mick Maguire wrote: Seriously I think that the epithets given to most products these days are purely designed by marketing to tap into consumer perceptions: like adding GTI or GTE or X to a car name, it's not so much what it stands for (eg. GTI was supposed to mean Grand Tourer Injection), as I doubt most people are bothered, it's more how it feels. An S somehow feels more prestigious than a number in the minds of the consumer... therefore to come back to my original speculation, I would say Superfluous In the Pentax line, a final X has meant something. KX, MX, LX. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Traditional vs Digital Photography
Here's an interesting article about traditional vs digital photography by Pedro Meyer. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/photo/essays/zonezero/2.htm It includes an interesting example of how you can alter digital images with software. If you click on the picture top right, it brings up the original photo before alteration. Harald - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: why EI-2000 is total CRAP, UNUSABLE for anything but strong daylight!
At 10:27 AM 11/29/01 -0500, Mafud wrote: In a message dated 11/28/01 11:05:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That does suck. Is there an option on the camera to lock the aperture? The CP990 has a variable aperture, but there's an option to lock it so it simulates a constant aperture zoom. The Pz-1p has the same ability with variable zooms. While I agree, no serious photographer should own or use a non-dedicated flash with variable aperture zooms. **a dedicated flash sets the aperture per the film speed. My choice of words may have been inaccurate - the aperture is not locked into one setting, but can be set via the body so it stays constant through the zoom range. I'm not sure of the precise definition of 'dedicated flash' - I thought it meant that the shutter speed was automatically fixed, not the aperture. By your definition, the LX does not have flash dedication. And while I don't want to quibble with what is probably just your choice of words... photographers, serious or silly, really have every right to own and use whatever gear they like. - MCC - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Kalamazoo, MI [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - - - - - - - - - Photos: http://www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: photo printers
That is why, except for a tie breaker, I am using the objective criteria of the halftoning. So far I have been able to seen it with a 4X Fuji loupe on all of the prints I have received. By doing it that way it is more of a hardware rating than a operator rating. There is of course no way to completely remove operator performance from the equation other than borrowing the printers and having all the prints made by one operator. Beside that is why I came up with the Master rating, so you guys will send me great prints instead of just something you ran off. BTW, did you see my Grand Prize post? --graywolf - Original Message - From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 5:04 PM Subject: Re: photo printers The Challenger or Prints (for it is he) wrote: The deadline is only for the contest for the rating of PDML 2001 Master Digital Printer. Anything received after 15/12/01 will be considered for 2002 if I am still doing the challenge. However, all prints received will be used for the printer quality rating which I will publish on the list once a month. Also I will sent a private e-mail giving you my rating of your print. If you want to share that with the list that is your choice. For general expediancy, I will share Graywolf's email to me regarding the Epson Stylus Photo EX print I sent him... Hi Cotty, I received you print today. Nice picture. Epson PhotoEX. Rating E. Equal to a good minilab print. The halftoning while visible with the loupe is nicely randomised. Since I have seen lesser quality prints from newer Epsons, your skill is certainly a big factor here. I felt gratified: I expected a D, maybe. 8-) One thing I would say on this score: creating a top quality scan from a neg, and creating a good quality inkjet print from a top quality scan are two seperate things with different workflows involved. Cheers, Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Slow today or did i get booted off again
No, it just means someone is putting forth their own agenda. They don't even recognize the real pros. You know what some pros still make house calls, unlike doctors. About the lens. No it is not any good. Unless you kept it frozen it is probably spoiled after 2 years. TV, what are you drinking? Something potent I would guess. --graywolf - Original Message - From: tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hey, I finally figured out what makes a professional photographer. The fact is, there is no such thing. You have to be a CPA, doctor, or lawyer to get one of the new .pro domains - this proves conclusively that everything else is just a job, all cameras are amateur, and wedding photographers are worse than hacks. Guess that answers that question, right? Okee dokee, moving on...I bought an FA 85/1.4 about 2 years ago. Can anyone tell me if it's any good? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Cotty's Pentax Mods December update posted...
I looked at your corner of the room photo ... eerily neat and organized ... gave me the willies*. Dan Scott (* not the PDML Willies) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cotty wrote: Well, hey - it's nearly December. I figured the PDML would like a smile before you head off for the weekend doing your own things, and hopefully burning some film... - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Slow today or did i get booted off again
This must be a Thursday. I never could get the hang of Thursdays chris On Thu, 29 Nov 2001, Dan Scott wrote: Yes. We've been celebrating Thursday all day long. Dan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aaron wrote: p.s. is it like a national holiday in the States or something? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Monopod for heavy camera
On Thu, 29 Nov 2001, Lon Williamson wrote: John seems to be our Long Lens Artist In Residence. I, for one, listen to what he says on such matters. I dunno... Ol' Bill Stack-'em'-high Casselberry could probably give him a run for his money with teleconverters... chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Illegal Street Photography?
Greetings from Portland everyone... The recent discussion about Robert Payne's Arrest photo started me thinking about the legal implications of street photography. Are there locations and/or subjects that are just off-limits to uninvited photography? Has anyone ever been asked for their roll of film after taking a picture of something they shouldn't have? I welcome comments, stories, whatever... t - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Illegal Street Photography?
In Stuttgart, Germany near Koenig Strasse I shot a group of young men who might be described as skinheads. They quickly surrounded me and began chanting zwei mark, zwei mark. I gave them zwei mark , and they allowed me to continue, but tossed a few small rocks at me as I hurried off down the street. Paul Stenquist Timothy Sherburne wrote: Greetings from Portland everyone... The recent discussion about Robert Payne's Arrest photo started me thinking about the legal implications of street photography. Are there locations and/or subjects that are just off-limits to uninvited photography? Has anyone ever been asked for their roll of film after taking a picture of something they shouldn't have? I welcome comments, stories, whatever... t - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT: Industrial site pix...
Hello all... I ran across this website built by a guy that likes to take interesting pictures of abandon industrial and commercial buildings. There's some great stuff in there. Very gritty. I don't know if he uses Pentax, but I find the site interesting all the same. http://www.abandoned-places.com/ After looking at his Links page, I get the feeling that photographing industrial decay is really its own genre. t - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Industrial site pix...
Interesting site, as an extremely painfull interface though. - Original Message - From: Timothy Sherburne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 2:18 PM Subject: OT: Industrial site pix... Hello all... I ran across this website built by a guy that likes to take interesting pictures of abandon industrial and commercial buildings. There's some great stuff in there. Very gritty. I don't know if he uses Pentax, but I find the site interesting all the same. http://www.abandoned-places.com/ After looking at his Links page, I get the feeling that photographing industrial decay is really its own genre. t - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Monopod for heavy camera
Chris Brogden wrote: John seems to be our Long Lens Artist In Residence. I, for one, listen to what he says on such matters. I dunno... Ol' Bill Stack-'em'-high Casselberry could probably give him a run for his money with teleconverters... I dunno -- hard to match those big Pentax Primes w/ old slow 300's 400's and so-so 2x'ers :^\ ... it is fun rigging up a 1600mm rig on the riflestock and running some TMZ, though :^) Bill - Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Industrial site pix...
I ran into this site a while ago. I was compelled to look at EVERY picture in the site. I has a blast trying to imagine the people who had been in those places and circumstances that lead the locations demise. Cory Waters - Original Message - From: Timothy Sherburne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 10:18 PM Subject: OT: Industrial site pix... Hello all... I ran across this website built by a guy that likes to take interesting pictures of abandon industrial and commercial buildings. There's some great stuff in there. Very gritty. I don't know if he uses Pentax, but I find the site interesting all the same. http://www.abandoned-places.com/ After looking at his Links page, I get the feeling that photographing industrial decay is really its own genre. t - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
