Re: First Posting
>Another BRIT! :-)Nive one Geoff. C'mon then, tell us what sort of kit you have. Be ye >a 67 chap, 645 or good ol' 35 mil ?? Not those bloody old spotties, now?You wouldn't >happen to have an LX, hm?If you don't, you should. Yes, another Brit (well Cornish actually but I've been in Bristol since 1973). Kit-wise, I use 35mm but both 'modern' and 'classic'. I originally bought an MZ-3 with the 43mm Limited lens - the detail that this lens captures is amazing. This combination is my main camera. I've also invested in some older equipment that takes me back to my youth - well some of the way. I've got an MX together with 28mm, 100mm and 200mm lenses. The MX is so well made and the mechanical shutter noise really turns heads. I look forward to speaking with you again. Geoff - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Halogen lighting
Well, I don't have a website, so I thought I'd give it a try. What is the way to post a picture to the list, wise guy? Pat White - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: First Posting
>Welcome to the PDML, Geoff. Pull up a chair and make yourself comfortable. Thanks for your warm welcome Don. Geoff - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: What Kodak can do: film scanners in Walmart
Hi Geordie, I'm in Victoria too! Every time I've used a Kodak Picturemaker (once in Toronto, twice at Lens and Shutter) a staff person has operated it. I don't mind, they use it every day and are more likely to get the print right the first time. At L&S, I was in a hurry to get a 5x7 print and had only a 4x6 print, no neg. In 10 minutes I was on my way with a surprisingly good, cropped, color- and brightness-adjusted print. Nothing wrong with that! Pat White - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Halogen lighting
Ha Ha! You tried to send an attachment to a list! Ha Ha! Regards, Bob... "Let us contemplate our forefathers, and posterity, and resolve to maintain the rights bequeathed to us from the former, for the sake of the latter. The necessity of the times, more than ever, calls for our utmost circumspection, deliberation, fortitude, and perseverance. Let us remember that 'if we suffer tamely a lawless attack upon our liberty, we encourage it, and involve others in our doom.' It is a very serious consideration that millions yet unborn may be the miserable sharers of the event." - Samuel Adams, 1771 From: "Pat White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Brendan, here's a picture I shot last summer with a 500-watt halogen worklight > (to camera right) and two 150-watt garden floodlights (to camera left) with, > if I recall correctly, a 100-watt garden spotlight to rear left as a > hairlight. It's filtered with an 80A and the model's hair and skin is > somewhat cooler-appearing than they really are, and the background is really a > little pinker than it shows here, but with her the effect is pleasant, at > least to my eyes. Brendan MacRae is right, it's a dark filter, and a nuisance > to use with 100-watt bulbs, but not so bad with 800 watts lighting up the > model. > > ps. She's not my 'favorite' model, as mentioned in a previous posting, she's > a professional I hired several times and was very pleased with. Hope this > helps. > > Pat White > > [demime 0.98e removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of 0408-88 m white sweater small.JPG] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Halogen lighting
Brendan, here's a picture I shot last summer with a 500-watt halogen worklight (to camera right) and two 150-watt garden floodlights (to camera left) with, if I recall correctly, a 100-watt garden spotlight to rear left as a hairlight. It's filtered with an 80A and the model's hair and skin is somewhat cooler-appearing than they really are, and the background is really a little pinker than it shows here, but with her the effect is pleasant, at least to my eyes. Brendan MacRae is right, it's a dark filter, and a nuisance to use with 100-watt bulbs, but not so bad with 800 watts lighting up the model. ps. She's not my 'favorite' model, as mentioned in a previous posting, she's a professional I hired several times and was very pleased with. Hope this helps. Pat White [demime 0.98e removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of 0408-88 m white sweater small.JPG] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: ebay Follies
Perhaps they need the higher price on eBay to cover the eBay
commission. But 10% is such overkill. These are the kind of
folk who want to make a buck at every turn.
Regards,
___
Tonghang Zhou ("Zhou" is pronounced like Joe)
On Wed, 9 Jan 2002, Doug Franklin wrote:
> Howdy, folks,
>
> Well, I've been keeping an eye on ebay for a Nikon Coolscan IV film
> scanner for a week or so. I've noticed a couple of auctions for them
> that start at US$ 745 and have a BIN of the same amount, and they're
> from the same seller, a commercial interest. An example of one of
> these auctions that's running now is at
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1318910958
>
> When I noticed it was a commercial interest, I decided to bop on over
> to their Web site and check the price there. The scanner within their
> site is at
>
> http://www.hotbuyselectronics.com/item_detail.asp?item_id=3128
>
> As you can see (if you follow both links) they offer the same scanner
> for just below US$ 680 on their web site ... you pay a 10% premium for
> ordering it from them over ebay. Shipping through the web site is over
> US$ 23 for "normal" shipment. The ebay ad says "email me for actual
> shipping charges".
>
> TTYL, DougF
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Re:What Kodak can do: film scanners in Walmart
I recently watched a clerk at Lens & Shutter (one of Victoria's largest camera shops) do all the work for a woman who wanted an enlargement from that Kodak machine. Yes. They have this thing in one of the high end camera shops. Hm. At that very moment I realized that this store has no choice but to compete against Wal-Mart, even if it makes them look a bit cheesey. At least they are taking some business away from the crappy department store. The P&S crowd eats this stuff up. I can hear them now: "It does it all in a minute or two, why would I ever bother getting the lab to do it when it takes them way longer?" Besides, take a peek at the images that are generally being printed on those machines... OK. I've ranted enough. geordie victoria, bc > > Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2002 19:03:13 -0800 > From: Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: What Kodak can do: film scanners in Walmart > > Sounds like it might be nice for making proof prints. > > Christian Skofteland wrote: > > > I think the reason so called pros and serious amateurs ignore these machines > > is that they seem to be marketed at the P&S crowd. If only it could print > > larger.. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: more scanner problems...
David Dixon wrote: > > (snip) > If however you get the same banding when scanning without the > transparency lid, (i.e. prints), it sounds more serious. > > David > Alas, then it is serious. I haven't used the slide stuff since September. Thanks for more info. ann - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PZ-1P kits
This is all excellent advice. Only thing I'd ad is that I bought my first 1p from Beach. The transaction went fine. When I looked around to buy a second about a year ago, Beach was out of them. The FA 28-105 power zoom (as Robert recommended) is great and balances well on the 1p (for which it was made). You can find a good used one at KEH. Joe >* From: Robert Soames Wetmore >* Subject: Re: PZ-1P kits >* Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2002 17:28:47 -0800 > > > > Marc, > > On the surface, this isn't a bad way to go. There are a few things I'd be > careful of, though. One trick I've seen is that there is a substantial > extra charge for something that is already included with the camera: "You > want the eyepiece? That's $xx more." Another trick is of course the > possibility of off-brand lenses, even if the ad makes them appear to be > Pentax. Sometimes it will say "f/ptx" [translation: "for Pentax"] or ptxm > ["pentax mount"] or some such nonsense. Another issue is that there might > be some small print somewhere about the fact that you're not getting a new > product, or not getting a USA warranty, or getting a refurbished item. > Sometimes the shipping and handling costs are actually like 10% of the price > or more. Also, sometimes they'll charge your card and then tell you that > the lenses are out of stock at the moment and on backorder, which they'll be > on indefinitely - and good luck getting a refund. These are just off the > top of my head as a former New Yorker - I assume we're talking about CCI, > Tri-State, Abe's, Beach, Focus, Smile, etc. > > I'd recommend B&H, Adorama, or CameraWorld, though I've also had success > when I've risked some of the others (such as Focus and 17photo), knowing > EXACTLY what I was getting and keeping things simple. > > How about the PZ-1p ($480 at B&H) and 35mm/2.0 ($284 at B&H) and 50mm/1.4 > ($185 at B&H) for a total of $949? Then in a while add the 135/2.8 ($309), > then maybe something between the 50 and the 135, then something wider than > the 35 or longer than the 135. > > If that's too expensive, I'd start with the PZ-1p and just the FA 28-105 > f/4-5.6 (the older style black powerzoom model 27667, such as the one now at > Focus for $254). There have been quite a few 28-105s, and they vary. The > one I mention is still around new in a few places and is excellent. The > succeeding one, gray instead of black, wasn't quite so good. There's > another brand new one, the FA 28-105 f/3.2-4.5 AL (IF), that is getting good > reviews. The 100-300 is pretty bad, the 80-320 somewhat better: I'd avoid > both, though there's no inexpensive Pentax-brand alternative. > > By the way, the FA 28-70 f/4 is a super buy, though they're getting > difficult to find now. (Focus is one place that still has them - and > cheap.) You could get this or the 28-105 I mentioned above, then think > about your next step - maybe a longer prime lens. > > I love my PZ-1p and believe it to be a fantastic value for the money. > > Good luck with your purchase! > > Rob > > _ > Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > > >* PZ-1P kits, Marc Schlotthauer > o Re: PZ-1P kits, aimcompute > o Re: PZ-1P kits, Robert Soames Wetmore > > > >archive.com/pentax-discuss%40<-- Chronological --> > > > top of my head as a former New Yorker - I assume we're talking about CCI, Tri-State, Abe's, Beach, Focus, Smile, etc. I'd recommend B&H, Adorama, or CameraWorld, though I've also had success when I've risked some of the others (such as Focus and 17photo), knowing EXACTLY what I was getting and keeping things simple. How aReply via email to > >the 135, >then something wider than the 35 or longer than the 135. If that's too expensive, I'd start with the PZ-1p and just the FA 28-105 f/4-5.6 (the older style black powerzoom model 27667, such as the one now at Focus for $254). There have been quite a few 28-105s, and they vary. The one I mention is still around new in a fe - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List.
Re: What Kodak can do: film scanners in Walmart
- Original Message - From: Tonghang Zhou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:32 PM Subject: What Kodak can do: film scanners in Walmart snip, snip... > Wouldn't be wonderful if the machine could scan negative > and slides as well? Imagine you shoot a roll of chrome, > study them under your brilliant loupe (which would the > Pentax 5X), pick the best one and walk to your friendly > local drug store any time of the day, scan and print 8x10, > for merely 3 bucks? > > No need to buy $500 film scanner yourself, print only > the ones you like, and no need to buy a $1000 digital > camera which becomes obsolete fasters than computers. > Tonghang. You can pretty much do that now. After you've captured you images in the traditiional film manner (print or slide) you can have photo CD scans made of only the ones you want, for about $1.25 - $2.00 depending on quantity, then with the use of a fairly cheap photo printer ($150 or so), some cheap photo manipulation program, you can have very nice digital prints for not much more than the $3.00 @ Walmart. Ken Waller - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: What Kodak can do: film scanners in Walmart
I use the Kodak Picture Maker at my local one hour store. It has an extra attachment to scan slides and negatives at ridiculous resolution. I've printed many 8x10 from slides (the largest available) prints on that amazing printer and have been totally blown away by its quality. I think the reason so called pros and serious amateurs ignore these machines is that they seem to be marketed at the P&S crowd. If only it could print larger.. Christian Skofteland - Original Message - From: "Tonghang Zhou" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I looked over a lady at a local Walgreen drug store, printing > some 8x10 photos on a self operated Kodak photo scan/print > machine, you know, one of those vertical yellow machines > with a touch screen on top. These machines are in > Walmart as well. > > The print quality from the print scan was surprisingly good, > and you can adjust the level of brightness and do cropping > as needed. > > The machine has ports to read floppy disk, cdrom or a digital > camera memory stick, as well as scanning prints directly. > > Wouldn't be wonderful if the machine could scan negative > and slides as well? Imagine you shoot a roll of chrome, > study them under your brilliant loupe (which would the > Pentax 5X), pick the best one and walk to your friendly > local drug store any time of the day, scan and print 8x10, > for merely 3 bucks? > > No need to buy $500 film scanner yourself, print only > the ones you like, and no need to buy a $1000 digital > camera which becomes obsolete fasters than computers. > > Wouldn't that be great for everyone? > > I'm sure Kodak could make a lot of money, AND make film > photography last a long time. > > Tonghang. > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 280T
RRRG! That one was supposed to be MINE! Cory Waters didn't quite have the fifty bucks just now. - Original Message - From: "John Glover" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:42 PM Subject: Re: 280T > I picked one up from KEH about two weeks ago, BGN condition for $49. Overall in good shape but the Pentax logo across the front was a bit worn. Just adds character though as the flash works flawlessly. You'll love the AF280T. > > John - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: What did we shoot this weekend?
I have a friend in the program that takes dilantin(sp?) to prevent depression from reoccurring. After many years flipping from "normal" into near catatonic depression, the docs finely found out (somewhat by accident) that what was sending her into depression was a form of epilepsy - apparently in an area of her brain that deals with mood. She's been depression free for 9 years now - on anti seizure medication! - Original Message - From: "Tom Rittenhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 2:29 PM Subject: Re: What did we shoot this weekend? > Interestingly enough, depression is not neccessarily purely a mental > problem. Mine was caused by a physical problem (attrial fibrilation) once > that got taken care of the depression mostly went away. Have you friend get > a thorough phyical if he (or she) has not done so. > > Ciao, > graywolf > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > - Original Message - > From: Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 2:44 PM > Subject: Re: What did we shoot this weekend? > > > > Hi ... > > > > No need to apologize, but it's gratefully accepted. It's easy to > > misconstrue intent when we communicate in this manner, and considering > > that I often kid around on this list, it's even easier to understand > > your response. Just be glad I'm not Mafud . > > > > It's a tough subject to tackle because there are so few things of > > outward appearance that can tell the story. A messy, darkened house, > > lethargy (how does one photograph lethargy?), inattention to certain > > details of one's life, and so forth. Anyway, it'll interesting to see > > what the first roll of film shows, and what it might indicate for future > > photographs. > > > > Cotty wrote: > > > > > > >Yes ... but I'm actually doing this. My post was not a joke. There is > > > >a person in my life who is suffering from terrible depression, and I > > > >want to document it. > > > > > > Apologies, Shel. It's too easy to be frivolous with the damned keyboard. > > > > > > It sounds like an excellent photographic subject. > > > > -- > > Shel Belinkoff > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ > > - > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Under-Used 35mm Equipment (was Re: 75mm f2.8 AL for 6x7)
On 8 Jan 2002, at 17:29, Norman Baugher wrote: > I'm feeling that enablement pang in the pit of my stomach. I think I'm > going to be about USD750 poorer in the near > future...aaagggmust...fightit... I don't know about you guys, > but since I've had the 6x7, I find my 35mm stuff gathering dust (Paul might > be able to relate). > Norm Umm, yup, me too I hardly ever shoot 35mm anymore for paying gigs (unless it's headshots, or if the customer needs prints in a hurry)... I'm going to be so broke after the 75mm F2.8 and the 165LS hit my camera bag, I probably won't be able to afford to shoot! AAACK - the joys of big negs, Cheers! Brian - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: What did we shoot this weekend?
I had fun shaving my head this weekend! After 3 years of having long hair I said "Enough!" The locks are being donated to local wig maker, who makes wigs on behalf of the BC Cancer Society for cancer or burn victims. (Actually, I set up the strobes and the backdrop, and handed the camera to a friend of mine who shot the event - I was kinda busy) Pics soon! Cheers! Brian - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Rodenstock filters
On 8 Jan 2002 at 18:43, Joseph Tainter wrote: > They are also made of > brass, which some people think is better than aluminum. I can't really > see a difference between the metals, except weight. Apparently the brass threads don't bind like aluminium can. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Info Wanted: New 67 75 2.8 Lens
Hi - I completely missed any information on this lens! I must have not noticed the press releases or the lens on display or Photokina, I guess? Has anyone used it, and could I get some information on actual results? Pro's\ Con's Thanks, Oliver _ http://www.transientimages.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Dave Thomas -- Wendy's founder <- off topic ???
It shows heart and a depth of personality amongst other things--- some of the many excellent characteristics that make this forum interesting as well as informative. Now if we could spread a few seeds of understanding... Otis Andy Vu wrote: > I really feel sympathy for Thomas's family, but I just wonder what does > this do with pentax ??? > Andy > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of dick graham > Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 1:49 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Dave Thomas -- Wendy's founder > > I believe Wendy was his granddaughter's nickname. > > DG > > At 09:20 PM 1/8/02 +, you wrote: > > >That is sad. I never knew they guy, and never ate at his restaurants, > > >but I always enjoyed his light-hearted TV commercials. There was one > in > > >which he said, after touting one of his hamburgers, "You want fiber? > Eat > > >a sweater." Cracked me up. Did you know him, Collin? > > > > > >Collin Brendemuehl wrote: > > >> > > >> Today is a sad day in Columbus, OH, > > >> with the passing of Dave Thomas. > > >> One fine man. > > > >Now I'm really confused. What has this poor departed chap got to do > with > >the delightful Wendy? > > > >Cotty > > > >___ > >Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Check out the UK Macintosh ads > >http://www.macads.co.uk > >- > >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > >go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > >visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT: Rodenstock filters
Heliopan's have one great advantage: they are thin, but still have an outside thread. Thus you can put one on the FA 24-90 or the Tamron 24-135 and still attach your lens cap. They are not as thin as a special thin filter, but thinner than most other filters. They are also made of brass, which some people think is better than aluminum. I can't really see a difference between the metals, except weight. If you don't need the thin width, then the Pentax SMC filters are great. I just got one for the Sigma 70-300 APO I just bought. Joe - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 280T
I picked one up from KEH about two weeks ago, BGN condition for $49. Overall in good shape but the Pentax logo across the front was a bit worn. Just adds character though as the flash works flawlessly. You'll love the AF280T. John - Original Message - From: "David Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 1:46 PM Subject: 280T > Going to look at a AF280T Wednesday after work, > I'm so exited.Now if i could only decide on a scanner > life would be good. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
What Kodak can do: film scanners in Walmart
I looked over a lady at a local Walgreen drug store, printing some 8x10 photos on a self operated Kodak photo scan/print machine, you know, one of those vertical yellow machines with a touch screen on top. These machines are in Walmart as well. The print quality from the print scan was surprisingly good, and you can adjust the level of brightness and do cropping as needed. The machine has ports to read floppy disk, cdrom or a digital camera memory stick, as well as scanning prints directly. Wouldn't be wonderful if the machine could scan negative and slides as well? Imagine you shoot a roll of chrome, study them under your brilliant loupe (which would the Pentax 5X), pick the best one and walk to your friendly local drug store any time of the day, scan and print 8x10, for merely 3 bucks? No need to buy $500 film scanner yourself, print only the ones you like, and no need to buy a $1000 digital camera which becomes obsolete fasters than computers. Wouldn't that be great for everyone? I'm sure Kodak could make a lot of money, AND make film photography last a long time. Tonghang. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PZ-1P kits
Marc, On the surface, this isn't a bad way to go. There are a few things I'd be careful of, though. One trick I've seen is that there is a substantial extra charge for something that is already included with the camera: "You want the eyepiece? That's $xx more." Another trick is of course the possibility of off-brand lenses, even if the ad makes them appear to be Pentax. Sometimes it will say "f/ptx" [translation: "for Pentax"] or ptxm ["pentax mount"] or some such nonsense. Another issue is that there might be some small print somewhere about the fact that you're not getting a new product, or not getting a USA warranty, or getting a refurbished item. Sometimes the shipping and handling costs are actually like 10% of the price or more. Also, sometimes they'll charge your card and then tell you that the lenses are out of stock at the moment and on backorder, which they'll be on indefinitely - and good luck getting a refund. These are just off the top of my head as a former New Yorker - I assume we're talking about CCI, Tri-State, Abe's, Beach, Focus, Smile, etc. I'd recommend B&H, Adorama, or CameraWorld, though I've also had success when I've risked some of the others (such as Focus and 17photo), knowing EXACTLY what I was getting and keeping things simple. How about the PZ-1p ($480 at B&H) and 35mm/2.0 ($284 at B&H) and 50mm/1.4 ($185 at B&H) for a total of $949? Then in a while add the 135/2.8 ($309), then maybe something between the 50 and the 135, then something wider than the 35 or longer than the 135. If that's too expensive, I'd start with the PZ-1p and just the FA 28-105 f/4-5.6 (the older style black powerzoom model 27667, such as the one now at Focus for $254). There have been quite a few 28-105s, and they vary. The one I mention is still around new in a few places and is excellent. The succeeding one, gray instead of black, wasn't quite so good. There's another brand new one, the FA 28-105 f/3.2-4.5 AL (IF), that is getting good reviews. The 100-300 is pretty bad, the 80-320 somewhat better: I'd avoid both, though there's no inexpensive Pentax-brand alternative. By the way, the FA 28-70 f/4 is a super buy, though they're getting difficult to find now. (Focus is one place that still has them - and cheap.) You could get this or the 28-105 I mentioned above, then think about your next step - maybe a longer prime lens. I love my PZ-1p and believe it to be a fantastic value for the money. Good luck with your purchase! Rob _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Kodak: a company shoots its own foot
I like 110. I like to use my 110 Pentax Super camera occasionally. As for
APS, I have liked this format eversince it came out in 1996. I wonder if
Kodak could have made an APS using the 35mm format? Would we all be moving
up to medium format because of APS 35mm?
Jim A.
> From: Tonghang Zhou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 14:52:49 -0800 (PST)
> To: Pentax-Discuss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Kodak: a company shoots its own foot
>
> Speaking of Kodak, I think it's pretty rare to see a company
> that throughout the years has been doing all it can to destroy
> its own baseline business.
>
> They sell film, and yet every few years they come up and some
> stupid (IMHO) contraptions to make film photography less and less
> interesting to the mass population.
>
> 110, APS, and the $10 disposable cameras. Look how popular they
> are these days, and how bad the results are. Small wonder people
> are moving to digital camera en masse. Just the other day I heard
> some clown on radio talking about how $100 digital cameras take
> photos that are "good enough" for most people.
>
> If Kodak really wants to sell film, where they had their an
> advantage over other companies, they should advocate 35mm, medium
> format or even large format, where they can sell large amounts of
> film. They've been just the opposite.
>
> Regards,
> ___
> Tonghang Zhou ("Zhou" is pronounced like Joe)
>
> On Tue, 8 Jan 2002, [iso-8859-1] Frits J. Wüthrich wrote:
>
>> http://biz.yahoo.com/rf/020107/n0733085_3.html
>> Lucent has Pat Russo back, as she left Kodak after nine months. Would you
>> think Kodak will survive?
>>
>> Frits Wüthrich
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Re: What did we shoot this weekend?
HAR! (But you knew that ) Len Paris wrote: > Glad you could arrange the loan of the lens. You should like > it. The addition of a Sto-Fen Omnibounce will cover its whole > field of view, too. A powerful flash won't hurt. :) -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Dave Thomas -- Wendy's founder <- off topic ???
Some of us stop in at Wendy's for burgers when we are out using our Pentax cameras. Len --- > I really feel sympathy for Thomas's family, but I just wonder what does > this do with pentax ??? > Andy - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Rodenstock filters
Heliopan are about equal to B+W, and both are a notch below Pentax SMC filters. Aaron Reynolds wrote: > I've never used a Heliopan filter before. How are they? -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Dave Thomas -- Wendy's founder
Hits home a bit over here, too... Dave was the owner of the Tim Horton's chain. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Kodak: a company shoots its own foot
One 'ex-employee' is trying harder than most to destroy them:
Kodak Camera Is A Scam
Just found this by someone who rang Kodak this morning.
This offer is not genuine. Confirmed by Kodak this morning. They are in
the process of calling all who ordered them.
Kodak is in the process of calling everyone who placed the order for
these cameras. Allegedly some (EX) employee has posted this offer and of
course it does not exist. I understand they are willing to offer 10% off
other orders.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2002010543,00.html
> -Original Message-
> From: Tonghang Zhou [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 08 January 2002 22:53
> To: Pentax-Discuss
> Subject: Kodak: a company shoots its own foot
>
>
> Speaking of Kodak, I think it's pretty rare to see a company
> that throughout the years has been doing all it can to destroy
> its own baseline business.
>
> They sell film, and yet every few years they come up and some
> stupid (IMHO) contraptions to make film photography less and less
> interesting to the mass population.
>
> 110, APS, and the $10 disposable cameras. Look how popular they
> are these days, and how bad the results are. Small wonder people
> are moving to digital camera en masse. Just the other day I heard
> some clown on radio talking about how $100 digital cameras take
> photos that are "good enough" for most people.
>
> If Kodak really wants to sell film, where they had their an
> advantage over other companies, they should advocate 35mm, medium
> format or even large format, where they can sell large amounts of
> film. They've been just the opposite.
>
> Regards,
> ___
> Tonghang Zhou ("Zhou" is pronounced like Joe)
>
> On Tue, 8 Jan 2002, [iso-8859-1] Frits J. Wüthrich wrote:
>
> > http://biz.yahoo.com/rf/020107/n0733085_3.html
> > Lucent has Pat Russo back, as she left Kodak after nine
> months. Would you
> > think Kodak will survive?
> >
> > Frits Wüthrich
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Re: some quick scans from the 75mm f2.8 AL for 6x7
On Tuesday, January 8, 2002, at 11:29 AM, Norman Baugher wrote: > I'm feeling that enablement pang in the pit of my stomach. I think I'm > going to be about USD750 poorer in the near > future...aaagggmust...fightit... Norm, if you fight it, you'll be depriving yourself of the gloriousness of this great lens. > I don't know about you guys, > but since I've had the 6x7, I find my 35mm stuff gathering dust (Paul > might > be able to relate). My LX has been very lonely since I had my 6x7 epiphany. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Dave Thomas -- Wendy's founder <- off topic ???
I really feel sympathy for Thomas's family, but I just wonder what does this do with pentax ??? Andy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of dick graham Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 1:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Dave Thomas -- Wendy's founder I believe Wendy was his granddaughter's nickname. DG At 09:20 PM 1/8/02 +, you wrote: > >That is sad. I never knew they guy, and never ate at his restaurants, > >but I always enjoyed his light-hearted TV commercials. There was one in > >which he said, after touting one of his hamburgers, "You want fiber? Eat > >a sweater." Cracked me up. Did you know him, Collin? > > > >Collin Brendemuehl wrote: > >> > >> Today is a sad day in Columbus, OH, > >> with the passing of Dave Thomas. > >> One fine man. > >Now I'm really confused. What has this poor departed chap got to do with >the delightful Wendy? > >Cotty > >___ >Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Check out the UK Macintosh ads >http://www.macads.co.uk >- >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Kodak: a company shoots its own foot
>They sell film, and yet every few years they come up and some stupid (IMHO) contraptions to make film photography less and less interesting to the mass population. Well, while I agree with some of your statements I think you misread what Kodak is all about. Kodak was, at its very inception, a company that brought photography to the masses. The first Kodak camera was a fairly easy to use item when photography was still fairly new for amateurs and cameras were mostly toys of the wealthy. It sold like hotcakes and thousands upon thousands of people who never held a camera in their lives were suddenly taking pictures. Most of these folks, I'm sure, were not too concerned with the quality of their images, but that they could capture these images at all! So, Kodak modeled most of the rest of its 20th century business plan around that idea; people will pay for convenience and moderate quality in their photo gear. As far as all of the "lesser" formats goes, this is just another way for Kodak to corner a market and it is something that they have always done very well. They create a new format (or make a cubersome one user-friendly) and make film for it. Sure, their cameras (with a few notable exceptions) are junk. But, if that camera is all you can afford or is the only one that's easy to use and is very inexpensive you buy it! And guess what? Kodak is the only company that makes the film...and if not, Kodak gets a licensing fee from a third party to make it. Sounds like Microsoft, no? I like Kodak because they're a classic American company that makes a good product; their films. The simple fact is that without this bread and butter business of cheap cameras (some of which actually take better than decent photos) and "lesser" formats (110, DISC, APS, etc.)they would not have the revenue to spend on R&D to make a line of PROFESSIONAL products like the Portra films and their motion picture stocks. IMHO, I hope Kodak never stops making cheap stuff for the masses. God forbid they go under. I like Fuji but not that much! Brendan MacRae - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Kodak: a company shoots its own foot
Hey, you're forgetting the 1970's sensational Disc Camera! Bill, KG4LOV [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 110, APS, and the $10 disposable cameras. Look how popular they > are these days, and how bad the results are. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Dave Thomas -- Wendy's founder
> Don't feel bad -- I didn't know either, and had > to look up an obit to > find that item. Here's an AP article about Dave: http://www.salon.com/people/wire/2002/01/08/wendys/index.htm l - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT: Rodenstock filters
I've been quite happy with the Rodenstock filters I've purchased lately. I was discussing them with someone this afternoon, and he said that as far as he could tell, they are made for Rodenstock by Heliopan, to Rodenstock's specifications. I've never used a Heliopan filter before. How are they? -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Kodak: a company shoots its own foot
Tonghang,
Perhaps they have been working hand in hand with the Pentax marketing
department. :-)
Bruce Dayton
Tuesday, January 08, 2002, 2:52:49 PM, you wrote:
TZ> Speaking of Kodak, I think it's pretty rare to see a company
TZ> that throughout the years has been doing all it can to destroy
TZ> its own baseline business.
TZ> They sell film, and yet every few years they come up and some
TZ> stupid (IMHO) contraptions to make film photography less and less
TZ> interesting to the mass population.
TZ> 110, APS, and the $10 disposable cameras. Look how popular they
TZ> are these days, and how bad the results are. Small wonder people
TZ> are moving to digital camera en masse. Just the other day I heard
TZ> some clown on radio talking about how $100 digital cameras take
TZ> photos that are "good enough" for most people.
TZ> If Kodak really wants to sell film, where they had their an
TZ> advantage over other companies, they should advocate 35mm, medium
TZ> format or even large format, where they can sell large amounts of
TZ> film. They've been just the opposite.
TZ> Regards,
TZ> ___
TZ> Tonghang Zhou ("Zhou" is pronounced like Joe)
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300/4 A* Questions
I just got it today, thanks again to Collin. It seems like it is a pretty decent one, although the shade is kind of beat up. You also solved the mystery of how you knew so much about mpexs stock beyond what they post on their site. I am sorry to hear about Dave Thomas it sounds like he was the decent guy he portrayed. The questions are: What is the deal the focus beyond infinity? Also I have heard thee are some issues about the lens being sharp wide open. At what aperture is the lens sharper, is there any info on the web that someone can direct me to? Thanks, Geoff - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: More on Kodak.
I guess they can now scrap their telephone development plans? First radios, then telephones, what's next? Otis "Frits J. Wüthrich" wrote: > http://biz.yahoo.com/rf/020107/n0733085_3.html > Lucent has Pat Russo back, as she left Kodak after nine months. Would you > think Kodak will survive? > > Frits Wüthrich > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Dave Thomas -- Wendy's founder
I believe Wendy was his granddaughter's nickname. DG At 09:20 PM 1/8/02 +, you wrote: > >That is sad. I never knew they guy, and never ate at his restaurants, > >but I always enjoyed his light-hearted TV commercials. There was one in > >which he said, after touting one of his hamburgers, "You want fiber? Eat > >a sweater." Cracked me up. Did you know him, Collin? > > > >Collin Brendemuehl wrote: > >> > >> Today is a sad day in Columbus, OH, > >> with the passing of Dave Thomas. > >> One fine man. > >Now I'm really confused. What has this poor departed chap got to do with >the delightful Wendy? > >Cotty > >___ >Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Check out the UK Macintosh ads >http://www.macads.co.uk >- >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Kodak: a company shoots its own foot
Speaking of Kodak, I think it's pretty rare to see a company
that throughout the years has been doing all it can to destroy
its own baseline business.
They sell film, and yet every few years they come up and some
stupid (IMHO) contraptions to make film photography less and less
interesting to the mass population.
110, APS, and the $10 disposable cameras. Look how popular they
are these days, and how bad the results are. Small wonder people
are moving to digital camera en masse. Just the other day I heard
some clown on radio talking about how $100 digital cameras take
photos that are "good enough" for most people.
If Kodak really wants to sell film, where they had their an
advantage over other companies, they should advocate 35mm, medium
format or even large format, where they can sell large amounts of
film. They've been just the opposite.
Regards,
___
Tonghang Zhou ("Zhou" is pronounced like Joe)
On Tue, 8 Jan 2002, [iso-8859-1] Frits J. Wüthrich wrote:
> http://biz.yahoo.com/rf/020107/n0733085_3.html
> Lucent has Pat Russo back, as she left Kodak after nine months. Would you
> think Kodak will survive?
>
> Frits Wüthrich
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Re: my autumn pictures (quite early )
Bac> Frantisek, Bac> Very nice work. Don't you just love the 100vs film! It really Bac> brings out the color in the leaves and it picks up the golden Bac> highlights hitting the trees. It is my favorite slide film. I Bac> like the composition in your photos. All four seem to lift the Bac> eye towards a corner of the photograph. I like photos with a Bac> sense of movement. Good job! Brendan MacRae Thank you! I like 100VS slightly more than Velvia, but that's maybe because the 100VS is somewhat less natural (even more than velvia, imho). The golden highlight really suprised me when I got the film back... I think Velvia would be just yellow there, not such nice golden colour. Bac> Nice work Frantisek! Very nice. Composition is great in all of them, Bac> making me feel like I'm there. Thank you! The 20mm lens is my favourite :) (otoh, it's the only wider than 50mm that I have got at this moment so maybe it was no other option ) now I have to get back to more web coding...And I thought I had the script to automate making my webpage sections like that one finished, when it stopped working :( Good light, Frantisek Vlcek - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PZ-1P kits
Overall not a bad way to go. If you decide you want better, you can probably sell the lenses for at least as much as you "paid". Tom C. - Original Message - From: "Marc Schlotthauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 3:35 PM Subject: PZ-1P kits > Greetings - > > I'm trying to find the catch here...some of these bare-bones discount camera > mail order places are offering deals like the PZ-1p plus the Pentax 28-105 and > the Pentax 100-300 zooms for around $600.00. I know these zooms probably aren't > the best optically, but heck, to get the PZ-1p and the ability to shoot any > length either AF or MF from 28mm to 300mm for $600 seems like a no-brainer to > me. I'm switching over from all my old Spotmatic gear, so I'm starting fresh > with no hardware (kinds scary, but fun as well), and I'm trying to be somewhat > budget-conscious... > > Comments? > > Marc > WVI WEBMAIL - http://www.wvi.com > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: First Posting
Way to go, Cotty! If Geoff does have Spotties, now you've gone and scared him off!! ;-) Don't worry, Geoff, if it is Spotmatics that you have, be proud! There are enough of us afficionados here that you'll have many allies. BTW, welcome to the list! regards, frank (Toronto, Canada) Cotty wrote: > >Having lurked and viewed the digest for some time, I'm now trying to post to > >it (can't be that difficult) - looking forward to getting a bit more > >involved. > > > >Regards, > >Geoff Stevens > >Bristol, UK > > Another BRIT! :-) > > Nive one Geoff. C'mon then, tell us what sort of kit you have. Be ye a 67 > chap, 645 or good ol' 35 mil ?? Not those bloody old spotties, now? > > You wouldn't happen to have an LX, hm? > > If you don't, you should. > > ;-) > > Cotty > > ___ > Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Check out the UK Macintosh ads > http://www.macads.co.uk > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
PZ-1P kits
Greetings - I'm trying to find the catch here...some of these bare-bones discount camera mail order places are offering deals like the PZ-1p plus the Pentax 28-105 and the Pentax 100-300 zooms for around $600.00. I know these zooms probably aren't the best optically, but heck, to get the PZ-1p and the ability to shoot any length either AF or MF from 28mm to 300mm for $600 seems like a no-brainer to me. I'm switching over from all my old Spotmatic gear, so I'm starting fresh with no hardware (kinds scary, but fun as well), and I'm trying to be somewhat budget-conscious... Comments? Marc WVI WEBMAIL - http://www.wvi.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: What did we shoot this weekend?
Interestingly enough, depression is not neccessarily purely a mental problem. Mine was caused by a physical problem (attrial fibrilation) once that got taken care of the depression mostly went away. Have you friend get a thorough phyical if he (or she) has not done so. Ciao, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 2:44 PM Subject: Re: What did we shoot this weekend? > Hi ... > > No need to apologize, but it's gratefully accepted. It's easy to > misconstrue intent when we communicate in this manner, and considering > that I often kid around on this list, it's even easier to understand > your response. Just be glad I'm not Mafud . > > It's a tough subject to tackle because there are so few things of > outward appearance that can tell the story. A messy, darkened house, > lethargy (how does one photograph lethargy?), inattention to certain > details of one's life, and so forth. Anyway, it'll interesting to see > what the first roll of film shows, and what it might indicate for future > photographs. > > Cotty wrote: > > > > >Yes ... but I'm actually doing this. My post was not a joke. There is > > >a person in my life who is suffering from terrible depression, and I > > >want to document it. > > > > Apologies, Shel. It's too easy to be frivolous with the damned keyboard. > > > > It sounds like an excellent photographic subject. > > -- > Shel Belinkoff > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Scanner help
2.3x Bill, not 4x. Ciao, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Bill Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 12:13 PM Subject: Scanner help > Now that I've taken the plunge (albeit cheaply) in MF, I'm interested in a > scanner with a transparency adapter that will scan 120 film. Any > suggestions? Also, wouldn't 1200 dpi in MF be about the equivalent of 4800 > dpi in 35mm, or am I having a senior moment? > > Bill, KG4LOV > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: What did we shoot this weekend?
It's a far better lens than its price would seem to indicate. I use mine quite frequently. I'll use it a lot more when the Pentax interchangeable lens digital camera makes it's appearance on the shelves. Unless the Pentax digital can only use FA lenses. That would be a pity, but not insurmountable. I still will have my PZ-1p and my Super Program to use the older K-mount lenses on, in any event. Glad you could arrange the loan of the lens. You should like it. The addition of a Sto-Fen Omnibounce will cover its whole field of view, too. A powerful flash won't hurt. :) Len --- > Turns out a list member has a Zenitar 16/2.8 that he can lend me, so > I'll give it a try. Thanks for the tip! > > Len Paris wrote: > > > > Why not borrow a Zenitar 16mm f/2.8 in Pentax K-mount? Or do > > you need to stay rectilinear all the way? > > -- > Shel Belinkoff - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: more scanner problems...
I've had this problem with an Epson 1200 photo when scanning negatives. The transparency unit has a narrow window above the main scanning area which is kept clear and used to calibrate the CCD before scanning to minimise any banding. If a piece of dust or hair got in here, I ended up with a vertical line through my scans - cleaning this window meticulously solved the problem. I assume the 1640 uses a similar system, and hopefully it's just a case of giving that window and the light source a good clean! If however you get the same banding when scanning without the transparency lid, (i.e. prints), it sounds more serious. David Ann Sanfedele wrote: > Ok, so I got the Epson 1640su photo in August - this is only > January. And I was gone for 2 months and didn't use it. > alas! suddenly I have GREEN LINE :( one narrow green line > right down the middle. Suggestions??? Is this terminal? > Help! > > annsan - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: some quick scans from the 75mm f2.8 AL for 6x7
NB> I'm feeling that enablement pang in the pit of my stomach. I think I'm NB> going to be about USD750 poorer in the near NB> future...aaagggmust...fightit... I don't know about you guys, NB> but since I've had the 6x7, I find my 35mm stuff gathering dust (Paul might NB> be able to relate). NB> Norm Now, you certainly don't want your lovely Pentax lenses to gather dust, fungus, all sorts of germs and parasites by not being exercised regularly? That would be a blasphemy! Why don't you instead focus on the great 67 and sell the 35mm to us puny mortals on list ;) Frantisek - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
More on Kodak.
http://biz.yahoo.com/rf/020107/n0733085_3.html Lucent has Pat Russo back, as she left Kodak after nine months. Would you think Kodak will survive? Frits Wüthrich - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Dave Thomas -- Wendy's founder
Cotty wrote: > Now I'm really confused. What has this poor departed chap got to do with > the delightful Wendy? In 1969, when he opened the first of what became a large chain of restaurants, he named it after his daughter -- Wendy. Don't feel bad -- I didn't know either, and had to look up an obit to find that item. Bob - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Dynamic Range - What's It All About, Alfie?
On 8 Jan 2002 at 10:54, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > OK, this is very helpful stuff, and put forth in a way that I can > understand it. Thanks! Combined with all the other input and articles, > I believe I'm finally getting a grasp on this. I'm coming into this late (I have to sleep sometime you know), but in essence as people have said Dmax and Dmin are the maximum and min density that the scanner is capable of achieving, Dmin can not be smaller that 0 but Dmax can be larger than 4 and in cases it is. The dynamic range in any system is the difference between the noise floor of the system and the point at which it saturates, in audio the absolute dynamic range is the ration of the electronic self noise level of the system to the maximum peak levels before brick-wall clipping of the signal occurs. In an optical system it is the ration of Dmin to Dmax. An interesting example is the Imacon Flextight scanner, it has a function where it can dynamically increase the intensity of the illumination source to raise it's Dmax from 4 to 4.2 (for scanning particularly dense films), of course this in turn raises the Dmin by 0.2 so in essence even though Dmax is now 4.2 the dynamic range stays the same. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: More on Scanning - Huge Files!
On 8 Jan 2002 at 6:41, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > What's to prevent me telling the operator not to do that? Hi Shel, It should be that easy but it seems that many operators have set there systems up just so and insist that the output is what will be most beneficial according to their experience, there is no good reason why, it's just my experience locally. Remember many of pre-press bureaus and production houses have been scanning for print long before this digital consumer printing thing came about, old habits die hard I guess. > But if one were to make large prints, 16x20 or larger, wouldn't more ppi > be beneficial? Pretty much everything I've heard here says that 4000ppi > is needed for a good 11x14, so wouldn't more be needed, or at least > beneficial, for a larger print? And you yourself said that with such a > scan there can be more shades of grey recorded in each pixel. It's a strange effect, you will have to experiment but from my experience when you scan at a higher resolution than the grain its self the nature of the file changes in that it becomes more lithographic. There ceases to be continuous tone, so adjustment and manipulation becomes more difficult. This is from my experience, hopefully Aaron or someone else similarly experience will step in here? > That may, or may not, be an advantage, depending on the photograph and > effect desired. Again this relates to the paragraph above. > And that should allow for smoother transitions from dark to light, and > an overall better-looking print, right? Isn't that the goal? In most cases (visible transitions between colours or grays in skies can look pretty bad) however you might want a more lithographic feel in the image too? > You mean I can be even more critical than I am now?! I'm not sure I'd > want that . Aw come on, gotta squeeze every last drop of performance out of your 35mm frames, that's what its all about :-) Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Dynamic Range - What's It All About, Alfie?
Mark (and all), You've made my point exactly. If you define what your number means, then there is no opportunity for ambiguity or error. Unfortunately, very few spec sheets for consumer products actually do this Shel, consider yourself lucky that you shoot lots of B&W. Color management is even more of a nightmare than dynamic range! --Mark ---Mark Wrote--- > > [cut, snip] > >The definition I'm familiar with says that DMAX is the Log >of the reciprocal of transmission (D = log 1/T). In other words, >if 1% of the light reaching the film is transmitted through it, >the DMAX is 2.0 (the reciprocal of .01 is 100 and the log of >100 is 2.0) See http://www.digital-image.co.nz/DI_Topics.htm - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Dave Thomas -- Wendy's founder
>That is sad. I never knew they guy, and never ate at his restaurants, >but I always enjoyed his light-hearted TV commercials. There was one in >which he said, after touting one of his hamburgers, "You want fiber? Eat >a sweater." Cracked me up. Did you know him, Collin? > >Collin Brendemuehl wrote: >> >> Today is a sad day in Columbus, OH, >> with the passing of Dave Thomas. >> One fine man. Now I'm really confused. What has this poor departed chap got to do with the delightful Wendy? Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: First Posting
>Having lurked and viewed the digest for some time, I'm now trying to post to >it (can't be that difficult) - looking forward to getting a bit more >involved. > >Regards, >Geoff Stevens >Bristol, UK Another BRIT! :-) Nive one Geoff. C'mon then, tell us what sort of kit you have. Be ye a 67 chap, 645 or good ol' 35 mil ?? Not those bloody old spotties, now? You wouldn't happen to have an LX, hm? If you don't, you should. ;-) Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Dynamic Range - What's It All About, Alfie?
Slide film may have less dynamic range than print film, but it's also likely to be more dense and have greater contrast. A scanner with a higher dynamic will benefit slides as well. If someone hasn't mentioned it already, as has been done from time to time, an excellent online resource to get some scanner knowledge is: http://www.scantips.com/ Tom C. - Original Message - From: "Joseph Tainter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 9:17 AM Subject: Dynamic Range - What's It All About, Alfie? > I think that manufacturers' claims (for film, scanners, whatever) are > always a post-modern moment. Meaning is relative. > > Slide film has less dynamic range than C-41. I don't know about B&W. I > once saw someone throw out 3.6 for C-41, and 3.2 or 3.4 for E-6 - but > don't know if those figures were literal, or just for illustration. > > Joe > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: my autumn pictures (quite early )
> Any comments welcome! Frantisek, Very nice work. Don't you just love the 100vs film! It really brings out the color in the leaves and it picks up the golden highlights hitting the trees. It is my favorite slide film. I like the composition in your photos. All four seem to lift the eye towards a corner of the photograph. I like photos with a sense of movement. Good job! Brendan MacRae - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Scanner help
Now that I've taken the plunge (albeit cheaply) in MF, I'm interested in a scanner with a transparency adapter that will scan 120 film. Any suggestions? Also, wouldn't 1200 dpi in MF be about the equivalent of 4800 dpi in 35mm, or am I having a senior moment? Bill, KG4LOV [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Dynamic Range - What's It All About, Alfie?
Shel, Here are some simple dynamic range formulae: The analog/digital converter (ADC) in a scanner puts out an integer. For a 16-bit converter, the range is between 0 and 2^16-1 (65535). This range is typically linear, which means that, for example, a value of 100 is twice as bright as 50. For a linear ADC, the dynamic range is the ratio of the range (max - min) to the resolution. For a 16-bit ADC, you can write it as: (2^16 - 1) - 0 --= 65535 1 For scanners, people quote the base-10 logarithm of this number: log10(65535) = 4.8165 For a 14-bit ADC, the numbers are: log10(2^14 - 1) = log10(16383) = 4.2144 These are the maximum POSSIBLE dynamic ranges with 14-bit and 16-bit representations of the scanned values. They are upper bounds. Marketing people love them because they are big and sound good. In reality, electrical noise and distortion will reduce the true dynamic range substantially, even for a 16-bit ADC. Realistic numbers for desktop film scanners seem to be between 3.0 and 4.0 (at the highest). Really expensive drum scanners, like the Tango, get closer to the theoretical upper bounds. That's why they're really expensive. I hope this helps to clarify the dynamic range issue a bit. --Mark p.s., yes, I do this kind of stuff for a living - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
my autumn pictures (quite early )
Hi, I have finally got around to scanning some of my slides of the autumn season. Please see and comment at www.volny.cz/fotof/kraje/autumn/index.html Any comments welcome! All of the slides taken on Kodak Ektachrome 100 VS, mostly with 20mm lens (Zeiss Flektogon). Camera of course K2DMD with MLU. Good light, Frantisek Vlcek - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
You talked me into MF
And I won a Yashica 635 on ebay. Hopefully I'll receive it late this week. Anybody have any tips or hints? Anybody have a 35mm adapter for it? Bill, KG4LOV [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: some quick scans from the 75mm f2.8 AL for 6x7
I'm feeling that enablement pang in the pit of my stomach. I think I'm going to be about USD750 poorer in the near future...aaagggmust...fightit... I don't know about you guys, but since I've had the 6x7, I find my 35mm stuff gathering dust (Paul might be able to relate). Norm Aaron Reynolds wrote: > On Tuesday, January 8, 2002, at 04:26 AM, mike wilson wrote: > > You're not sleeping with it, are you? > > Vanessa puts up with a lot, but that would get me kicked out of bed for > sure. > It stays on my bedside table instead. :) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Dynamic Range - What's It All About, Alfie?
>From what I have read, DMAX 4.0 is the theoretical limit or the >calculation scale, not the limit of a particular film. The *theoretical* maximum DMAX depends on the bit depth of the scanner. For a 48-bit scanner, the theoretical maximum is 4.8, for a 36-bit scanner it's 3.6. How close the *actual* DMAX comes to achieving the theoretical maximum depends on the quality of the CCD and the associated analog circuitry. -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Dynamic Range - What's It All About, Alfie?
If I knew the answer I'd not have asked the question . Thanks for the pointer - that was very helpful. Information on one of the scanners is being printed as I type. Rob Brigham wrote: > > I think you know the answer... > > >From what I have read, DMAX 4.0 is the theoretical limit or the > calculation scale, not the limit of a particular film. Therefore > anything above 4.0 is definately not using the standard scale, or is > just made up. > > There is no way to tell other than reading reviews and looking at posted > scans. The best are on www.imaging-resouce.com, -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Dynamic Range - What's It All About, Alfie?
I think that manufacturers' claims (for film, scanners, whatever) are always a post-modern moment. Meaning is relative. Slide film has less dynamic range than C-41. I don't know about B&W. I once saw someone throw out 3.6 for C-41, and 3.2 or 3.4 for E-6 - but don't know if those figures were literal, or just for illustration. Joe - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Dynamic Range - What's It All About, Alfie?
I think you know the answer... >From what I have read, DMAX 4.0 is the theoretical limit or the calculation scale, not the limit of a particular film. Therefore anything above 4.0 is definately not using the standard scale, or is just made up. There is no way to tell other than reading reviews and looking at posted scans. The best are on www.imaging-resouce.com, they are pretty exhasutive and address this issue directly with scanned examples. Alternatively user reviews on www.photographyreview.com are a good guide, but you have to factor in biases, generalisations and lack of comparitives. > The specs on a couple of well regarded scanners > claim a dynamic range of 4.2 and 4.8. > > So, are the published scanner figures accurate, or just advertising > nonsense, and how can a poor boy tell for sure? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Extra-dolar Planet Imaged Optically
We can look forward to more of this. See today's Washington Post article, "Telescope Technology May Yield Images of Extra-Solar Planets" at http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A10958-2002Jan7.html [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Extra-dolar Planet Imaged Optically
We can look forward to more of this. See today's Washington Post article, "Telescope Technology May Yield Images of Extra-Solar Planets" at http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A10958-2002Jan7.html [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: more scanner problems...
More than likely a bit of grot on the CCD or mirror. William Robb - Original Message - From: "Ann Sanfedele" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 1:23 AM Subject: more scanner problems... Ok, so I got the Epson 1640su photo in August - this is only January. And I was gone for 2 months and didn't use it. alas! suddenly I have GREEN LINE :( one narrow green line right down the middle. Suggestions??? Is this terminal? Help! annsan - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Dip and Dunk C41 processing
- Original Message - From: "Nick Wright" Subject: Re: Dip and Dunk C41 processing Do you think standard PVC glue would hold the submerged cap in place or would the chemicals eat through it? If they would eat it up what type of adhesive should I use? Thanks!! PVC cement forms a weld between the two pieces. It will hold colour chemistry just fine. Have fun William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
H3 kit for sale or trade
Hello all, I guess I should wait for "for-sale" Friday to post this, but I may be too busy this week, so I'm posting this now. I can post it again Friday, maybe on the Spotmatic group, if I have no takers. I have a near-mint chrome Honeywell Pentax H3 for sale or trade. It's in truly beautiful condition, works smoothly, and comes with the Auto-Takumar 55mm f1.8 (but it has the automatic diaphragm, so it's really a Super-Tak), the clip-on meter (working well and with new foam), and the soft case that fits over the camera and meter. I have the separate case for the meter, too. This also includes the instruction book, and I'll throw in an actual mercury battery that tests at the correct voltage for the meter. I have photos that I can post or e-mail to anyone interested. The only reason I'm selling/trading this camera is because I recently got a beautiful black early H2 from Chris Brogden -- my first black Pentax! What I'd really like is to trade this for a Spotmatic SL (the meterless one) to go with my Spotmatic SP, or for a really nice H3v/SV. The trade doesn't have to be exact; cash on either side to make up for any difference can be negotiated. If anyone wants to buy it outright, I'll say $125 takes the whole thing -- add $8 or so for packaging/shipping. Joe -- Joe Wilensky Staff Writer Media and Technology Services - Cornell University 1150 Comstock Hall Ithaca, NY 14853-0901 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel: 607-255-1575 fax: 607-255-9873 Please visit our Web site at http://www.mediasrv.cornell.edu - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Dynamic Range - What's It All About, Alfie?
OK, here are a few questions for the digital gurus on the list: It's been stated here, sometimes quite emphatically, that the dynamic range available to film is 4.0 - maybe that's a particular type of film, like slides. The specs on a couple of well regarded scanners claim a dynamic range of 4.2 and 4.8. So, are the published scanner figures accurate, or just advertising nonsense, and how can a poor boy tell for sure? If film only has a dynamic range of 4.0, what would the benefit be to having a scanner with a dynamic range greater than that? Is there an advantage to having a scanner with a greater dynamic range than the film, regardless of the films dynamic range? Is B&W negative film different from slides and color negative film wrt its potential dynamic range? I suspect it's quite a bit different than slide film in offering a greater range, but what about color neg? -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Dip and Dunk C41 processing
--- William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The cheeky answer is to use plastic tanks. > PVC plumbing pipe in the appropriate size would work > well, PVC > is what modern film processor tanks are made of. I almost can't believe that I didn't see this solution staring me in the face. I have been looking at plastic tanks; specifically the Paterson system 4. But there I have to choose either 3 rolls at a time or 5 rolls, neither is ideal (I want to be able be able to run 4 at a time), and they cost more than $30 new. PVC pipe with caps on both ends (one fixed the other to act as a lid) cut exactly the length I want would be great. Thank you very much!!! :) Do you think standard PVC glue would hold the submerged cap in place or would the chemicals eat through it? If they would eat it up what type of adhesive should I use? Thanks!! Nick Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: More on Scanning - Huge Files!
So, what's wrong with being within the grain structure of the film? I must be missing something (which is not hard for me to do). When making big enlargements using a regular darkroom, the grain is evident in the final print, and that can be used to good creative advantage. I suppose using a larger format is an option if one has a larger format camera to use, and if the results warrant a larger format. But for certain types of photography a larger format is a hindrance, and 35mm is by far the better option. So are you saying that 35mm does not lend itself to large prints made digitally? David Mann said: > If you're going to that kind of file size > you'll be well within the grain structure > of 35mm film...you'd be better off going > to a lower res scan of a larger format. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: More on Scanning - Huge Files!
Hi, Rob Studdert wrote: > The unfortunate thing that I have found > with drum scans is that the scanner > software (and operator) tend to apply > post processing of the image that renders > it suitable for printing to press but bad > for photographic purposes. Images > generally tend to suffer from excessive > application of unsharp masking making > the contrasty edges in the image look quite false. What's to prevent me telling the operator not to do that? > > The other thing is that at the sort of > resolution that you mention you will get > a lovely rendition of every grain in the > image if the film is faster than > ~ISO100. To put it into perspective there > is little information to be gained by > scanning TMZ at anything beyond 2000dpi, > beyond that you just get a better idea > of the shape of the grains. But if one were to make large prints, 16x20 or larger, wouldn't more ppi be beneficial? Pretty much everything I've heard here says that 4000ppi is needed for a good 11x14, so wouldn't more be needed, or at least beneficial, for a larger print? And you yourself said that with such a scan there can be more shades of grey recorded in each pixel. > There are arguments that the final > image will look more analogue the higher > the resolution however I've yet to see a > real difference. That may, or may not, be an advantage, depending on the photograph and effect desired. > The biggest advantage in > B&W scanning is the bit depth ie the fact > that you can record more shades of grey in > any one pixel. And that should allow for smoother transitions from dark to light, and an overall better-looking print, right? Isn't that the goal? > The last comment rings true, once you have a good > scanner you wont believe how critical you can become :-) You mean I can be even more critical than I am now?! I'm not sure I'd want that . -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: some quick scans from the 75mm f2.8 AL for 6x7
On Tuesday, January 8, 2002, at 04:26 AM, mike wilson wrote: > > You're not sleeping with it, are you? Vanessa puts up with a lot, but that would get me kicked out of bed for sure. It stays on my bedside table instead. :) -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Kalimar K-90 Who makes it?
Probably Kalimar. It looks like one of the standard k1000 clones like the ricoh's, vivitar's and sear's knock-offs. Christian - Original Message - From: "Ken Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Anyone have any idea who makes the Kalimar K-90 that just sold on ebay? > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1316856936&r=0&t=0&sh owTutorial=0&ed=1010458117&indexURL=0&rd=1 > -- > Kenneth Archer + San Antonio, Texas - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT: Kalimar K-90 Who makes it?
Anyone have any idea who makes the Kalimar K-90 that just sold on ebay? http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1316856936&r=0&t=0&showTutorial=0&ed=1010458117&indexURL=0&rd=1 -- Kenneth Archer + San Antonio, Texas [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ #24980801 Powered by Linux ++ Mailed by Kmail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: what we shot this weekend
Cory, there must be something about berries covered in snow. I have almost the exact same shot. Evan From: "C or B Waters" > Here are a couple of the snow shots with some football (American) for good > measure. > These are not my scans. Not that I'm much better than Snapfish is BUT > > Cory Waters > - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: more scanner problems...
Ann, What a bummer! I feel kind of responsible since I talked you into getting that scanner. I would call Epson and send it back. Best of luck, Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: "Ann Sanfedele" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 11:23 PM Subject: more scanner problems... > Ok, so I got the Epson 1640su photo in August - this is only > January. And I was gone for 2 months and didn't use it. > alas! suddenly I have GREEN LINE :( one narrow green line > right down the middle. Suggestions??? Is this terminal? > Help! > > annsan > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Help with AF280T manual settings
Cotty Wow. Thanks. It's a great flash isn't it. I think I prefer it to my 330FTZ. Regards Jim > > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 19:21:16 + > From: Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Help with AF280T manual settings > > > Hey Jim, > > This from the AF280T manual: (my comments in parentheses) > > - -- > (from page 8/9) > > > - -- > > That's as much as my poor wrinkled fingers will type at the moment. > > HTH, > > Cotty - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: OT: Extra-dolar Planet Imaged Optically
What about us M42 guys???LOL Dave Begin Original Message From: Dan Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 22:23:31 -0600 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: Extra-dolar Planet Imaged Optically But is there a K-mount adapter available? Dan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Thought some may enjoy this. Apparently a ground based telescope has >optically resolved a brown dwarf orbiting another star. > >Tom C. > >http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/space/01/07/brown.dwarf/index.html >- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pug Comments
Thank you Rob That bodes well for the assessment :) I felt the image was somewhat overshadowed in the excellent PUG this month, so big thanks for the mention! Regards Jim > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 12:31:31 - > From: "Rob Brigham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Pug Comments > > Waiting for the Train by Jim Brooks > No an amazingly memorable photo, but I like it for doing exactly what > was intended - showing Action & movement ( but cleverly also non-moving > elements to emphasize the action). - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Help with AF280T manual settings
Thanks Gianfranco. Must try the M setting on my ME super (and MV1) to see whether I can slow sync. Regards Jim > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 03:28:41 -0800 (PST) > From: Gianfranco Irlanda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Help with AF280T manual settings > > Hi Jim, > The two MH and ML settings allow the camera to set the synch > speed while the M setting does not. MH is full power, ML should > be 1/16. With the LX, if you want to do slow synch you can, but > only with the plain M setting (unless you have the hot-shoe grip > that leaves you the choice). > > Gianfranco - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PUG favorites
> "Gardenia - Early Sunday Morning" Brent Hutto--Nice shot, Brent. Very luminous The light was amazing for a few minutes that morning. It was my ninth roll of film when I first got my camera and 50mm lens. Now it is three years later I still haven't taken a better flower portrait. You gotta have that perfect light and a freshly-opened blossom. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PUG favorites
Thanks Dan. It was one of those fortunate situations where I was able to shoot someone on the street without being noticed. A big crowd and a long lens helped. Paul Dan Scott wrote: > > > A *few* of my favorites from this month's gallery: > > "A Song for his Lady" Paul Stenquist--superb! I bet the print of this is > just awesome... > > " - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses
43mm zoom, so that means it zooms from 43mm to 43mm, right ;) --- Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > He wants a zoom for travel. He can always use my > 43mm if he's so > inclined. You're probably right about the > quality difference. > Thanks! > > Clive Williams wrote: Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: some quick scans from the 75mm f2.8 AL for 6x7
Hi, Aaron Reynolds wrote: > > Right, like I would ACTUALLY let this lens out of my sight... You're not sleeping with it, are you? m - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: more scanner problems...
Ann, I don't know if this will help at all, but...awhile back I started to develop a lighter band on the upper third of the scan. I am using an Minolta Scan Dual II. I tried cleaning and all sorts of things. I was very unhappy thinking I might have to send it back to the manufacturer for repair. One day, I tried using Hamrick's Vuescan software and lo and behold, the light band went away. I have never seen it since while using Vuescan. Basically, what I thought was a hardware problem was really a software problem. Consider, have you changed or upgraded anything - OS, scanner driver, photo editing software, etc. Hope this helps. Bruce Dayton Monday, January 07, 2002, 11:23:11 PM, you wrote: AS> Ok, so I got the Epson 1640su photo in August - this is only AS> January. And I was gone for 2 months and didn't use it. AS> alas! suddenly I have GREEN LINE :( one narrow green line AS> right down the middle. Suggestions??? Is this terminal? AS> Help! AS> annsan AS> - AS> This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, AS> go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to AS> visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Didya miss me?
Jody hits her forehead and exclaims "Doh". She kicks herself for not thinking of this. --- Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The problem with your LX wasn't really a problem. > You just had the > shutter speed dial set to "A," aperture priority > mode. When you > depressed the shutter release, you heard the shutter > open but it never > closed because it wasn't getting any light with the > lens cap on. That's > why it wouldn't wind on. As soon as you took the > lens cap off, the meter > calculated that it had enough light, and closed the > shutter. Then you > were able to wind on. > Paul Stenquist Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
