Re: Always at the ready - OT
Thank you so much, Frank, for your warm words. Perhaps you are right, I need to be a little more lighthearted. I think my P30t with 50/1.4 (or 28/2.8 ?) could take place in my bag ... BTW I have never had a pancake for my MX (before it went to my cousin) and I think it is quite overprized on ebay, so am waiting for a good occasion to assemble it - just for fun. Talking about 40mm-lenses: I noticed that Voigtlaender brings out a 40mm/2.0 Heliar, for PK, too. Look at http://www.voigtlaender.de/voigtlaender.nsf/pages/frameset?Open I am looking forward to the first reviews. Regards Bernd - original message - Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 17:57:29 -0400 From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Always at the ready - OT Hi, Bernd, Funny, but for all the talk about an MX with 2.8 40mm pancake being pocketable (which I guess it is - in a big pocket), it's just not ~quite~ small enough for me. And, I want something cheap and dirty to throw in a bag or pocket for those times when I don't want to hang a camera around my neck; hence my choice of a little Minolta HiMatic F rangefinder. But your observation of the lack of Pentax product mentioned in this thread is well taken. I for one would have expected to see the Pentax 110 mentioned more than once - which it wasn't. Funny you should mention that your daily commute is boring and that there's nothing of interest to photograph. I find that having a camera with me makes me look at the world in a different way. I'm sure there are plenty of things for you to take pictures of each day. Of course, you'd run the risk of being that strange man who stands at the end of the train station platform with the camera, to all the other commuters! vbg I bet taking a camera with you would make your commute a bit more interesting. Sounds like you need it! regards, frank - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
IR film-remotes?
Just thinking about dumb stuff now but can you take a picture with IR film of the beam from your TV remote control? Cory Waters got the idea while listening to Car Talk on NPR - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: PDML UK 2002 pic posted
Cotty.. good to see the pentax crew on the other side of the pond :) big question though: Who's camera was used to snap the photo ? Cheers, Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Cotty Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 9:51 AM To: Pentax List Subject: PDML UK 2002 pic posted Pic and a few lines posted for your viewing pleasure: http://www.macads.co.uk/pdml Cheers, Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: check some of my shots out
I like Sinister Playground. It reminds me of a photograph I had in mind a few years ago where I would be a ghost image as well. It's interesting how our imagination can move us to create something. Jim A. From: happyness [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 15:42:43 +0930 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: check some of my shots out http://www.photosig.com/viewphoto.php?id=120699 http://www.photosig.com/viewphoto.php?id=144834 http://www.photosig.com/viewphoto.php?id=146240 leave feedback if you want or email me wayne - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PENTAX PorrioPRISM FINDER 6X7
I've never seen anything like this before. I have a feeling someone may have remvoed the tope plate from the prism. Anyone else from the brotherhood have any ideas? Brother IL Bill Paul Ewins wrote: Hi all, is this a genuine Pentax item, or somebody's crafty modification? http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1366397098 I guess the image will be reversed or upside down or both, but I imagine it would give you 100% viewing at eye level. Paul Ewins, Melbourne, Australia - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: IR film-remotes?
Not sure about IR film, but video cameras will capture the light on their CCD sensor and then turn it visible for all to see . . . IL Bill CBWaters wrote: Just thinking about dumb stuff now but can you take a picture with IR film of the beam from your TV remote control? Cory Waters got the idea while listening to Car Talk on NPR - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PENTAX PorrioPRISM FINDER 6X7
On 13 Jul 2002 at 10:20, William Kane wrote: I've never seen anything like this before. I have a feeling someone may have remvoed the tope plate from the prism. Anyone else from the brotherhood have any ideas? That's a strange one alright, it looks like a very professionally modified 67 WL finder, what's most interesting though is that it appears to sport well integrated optics at both ports? Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: PDML UK 2002 pic posted
I add one more question: Who was the winner of the beauty contest? Cheers, Ayash. On Sat, 13 Jul 2002, David Chang-Sang wrote: Cotty.. good to see the pentax crew on the other side of the pond :) big question though: Who's camera was used to snap the photo ? Cheers, Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Cotty Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 9:51 AM To: Pentax List Subject: PDML UK 2002 pic posted Pic and a few lines posted for your viewing pleasure: http://www.macads.co.uk/pdml Cheers, Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Anybody interested in getting the Pentax poster?
http://digilander.libero.it/pentaxday/postere.htm Please please don't send me a personal check only cashable in USA, Canada, or any country other than Italy. Send them to PDML distributors in your country (once they'll show-up and buy some posters from me!) Dario Bonazza http://www.dariobonazza.com I would also be interested in a poster. Just tell me where to send the check. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: About the 1952-2002 - 50 years of Pentax SLR camerasposter
frank theriault wrote: I'll second that, Dave. I'd like (at least) one. They're beautiful! And when you'll see them 100x70cm wide, you'll be pretty impressed too! And, I'd be more than happy to accept shipment for any folks in the greater Toronto area who want any, if it will save on postage (which I'm sure it will). So I believe it's quite time you Canadians (and US folks too) will agree about who are the PDML distributors in your countries, isn't it? Cheers, Dario Bonazza http://www.dariobonazza.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Semi-OT: Agfa film question
This might have been discussed during one of the periods I didn't get much list reading time in... I don't seee Agfa HDC any more, and I've been hearing about Agfa Vista. Is Vista the consumer replacement for HDC, and if so, how different is it? In the past, I basically treated HDC as cheaper Optima, and that worked out pretty well most of the time. I've never seen Agfa Vista. The store where I used to buy film just went out of business, and the next nearest real camera store doesn't carry Agfa products. :-( So I'm looking at mail-order, noticed the Vista I'd been hearing about, and am wondering: is this a new name and a slight change but otherwise a familiar film (i.e. Go ahead and stock up) or really something new (i.e. Get a couple rolls to find out whether I like it)? -- Glenn - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Semi-OT: Agfa film question
Vista is quite different from HDC. I used HDC 100 and 200 happily for years, but I didn't like the look of Vista, and now I use Fuji Superia. I found the Vista to be too warm for my taste, but you may like it. However, I'd certainly suggest trying a few rolls before buying in bulk. Pat White - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: IR film-remotes?
Perhaps if you had some smoke or fog/steam in the air, the IR beam might be visible (to IR film, at least). Pat White - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: check some of my shots out
Nice work, happyness! Pat White - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: IR film-remotes?
BTW, use one of the Wratten 87 IR cutting filters for the vidcam/digicam trick. I suppose you could try it in a dark room, too. t On 7/13/02 8:23 AM, Timothy Sherburne wrote: Sure, but it's not really a beam. It'll just look like a small light inside the remote where you don't usually see one. Inside the remote are IR emitters that look like regular clear LED lights. I suppose you could use them as an IR light source, too, but the light would be kinda weak. The remote is also a perfect test tool to see if your video camera or digicam is IR capable. Most are, but YMMV. t On 7/13/02 7:36 AM, CBWaters wrote: Just thinking about dumb stuff now but can you take a picture with IR film of the beam from your TV remote control? Cory Waters got the idea while listening to Car Talk on NPR - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
was: The K2 or LX question/ Sid adds his blasphemy
I have the K2, K2DMD. A wonderful camera. In fact, at one time I had 8 K2 bodies, 2 K2DMDs, winders, etc. etc. I sold one DMD and a winder/remote cord/grip to finance an LX purchase. Haven't got it yet, but it will be my next purchase. The K2 had everything one might want from a semi pro positioned manual focus camera. The 125th flash sync is much nicer than 1/60th; the exposure lock was way ahead of its time and very useful. The DMD mechanical trick of having a little periscope to read the aperture setting (won't work on all off brand lenses though) is clever. The DMD other trick of having a red window appear in the viewfinder to alert the photographer of exposure compensation being used is also a neat mechanical accomplishment. But all of these neat little features on the K2, and DMD are available as electronic bells and whistles on succeeding generations of Pentax models, on smaller lighter bodies, with lots of things added later on to make them even more user friendly. The blasphemous point I'm approaching here is this: If you want a camera with lots of features for picture taking, get an ME super, or for even more features, a super program, or a program plus, or add some more features plus autofocus with a PZ 1 or PZ 20, or if better autofocus is required, then ZX (MZ) 5n, or 7. The K2s and DMD I have are toys, beautiful, expensive, finely crafted, precision engineered, but they are my toys. The bulk of picture taking I do for other people is invariably taken with the later models, in particular, the PZ1 first, then the PZ 20, and the super program as the third option. I just like to have better assurance of success, like having TTL flash, mainly. Plus, these cameras are lighter, and plenty enough robust for the semi-pro use I give them. In fact, the PZ1 has survived several drops (one of them about 4 feet onto concrete-- survived with only an abrasion to the corner) If I drop one of my k2s, they'll invariable be a dent there, and the value of the camera for resale has probably just dropped $100. Now, of course I haven't even mentioned the screw mount cameras and lenses. They might even be as good a solution as the K2 for someone who wanted a manual focus camera. The spotmatic F has full frame averaging metering, probably not as good as K2's center weighted, advanced meter. But the screw mount lenses are out there in the thousands, and I've got a complete set of SMC T prime lenses up to the 400, and spent less than $1000. well, that's probably too long-winded of me already but, there you have my 2 cents. Sid - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: k2 or kx or lx that is the question
Paul, the same logic can be applied to slr/ps comparison: interchangeable lenses become a money hole (of course they are!) the interchangeable screens and finders is a *huge* plus of LX. with finders you can do things like weird angle shots, etc. -- that would be a major PIA, if possible at all, with any other camera. and being able to change your screen is hardly a liability. in fact, the dirst thing i did when my MX arrived was putting a newer one, from LX, to get a much brighter view. think how much money people pay to get 1/2 stop faster lens to ease focusing -- here it would cost mere $30 or so. although, you do make a very good point about having to try 'em all :) Mishka From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: k2 or kx or lx that is the question Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 05:47:36 -0700 The problem with the LX is that you won't be satisfied until you've tried out all the viewfinders. It becomes a money hole. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
K series lens locator knob
I have a SMC K 24/2.8 that is missing the little round white button. It's not a big deal for me, but I was wondering if anyone had some spare one kicking around collecting dust. If not, where can I go to look or such a part? Will Pentax Canada have them? -Scott - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PDML UK 2002 pic posted
In a message dated 13/07/02 20:25:49 GMT Daylight Time, Cotty writes: Pic and a few lines posted for your viewing pleasure: http://www.macads.co.uk/pdml I'm humbled. Yeah, lived my life like an international pop star, me. Apologs for shooting off so early but the mrs had a 7.30 and whilst we might have gotten back to sunny Brighton on time, there's some bloke called Fatboy Slim playing a gig on the beach the world his dog wants to go. Hence arrival here after 4 hours rather than 2. Actually the mrs loved it and had to be dragged away - drag me away from Cotty's smth fluid head. The 1000mm stayed in the case - way too long and not particularly convenient to focus for anything moving faster than a snail's pace. Great to see all you guys - love to see some more snaps. Toodle pip Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: was: The K2 or LX question/ Sid adds his blasphemy
I feel like Sid does. Although the older bodies are fun, most of my shooting goes thru the LX or PZ-1p (or PZ-1 or Super Program). The reliability and extra features are just to easy to get adjusted to. Furthermore, after years of shooting with the Super Program, I know exactly what to expect and how to compensate when shooting it or the PZ-1. The LX and PZ-1p still surprise me on occasion. Regards, Bob S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The K2s and DMD I have are toys, beautiful, expensive, finely crafted, precision engineered, but they are my toys. The bulk of picture taking I do for other people is invariably taken with the later models, in particular, the PZ1 first, then the PZ 20, and the super program as the third option. I just like to have better assurance of success, like having TTL flash, mainly. Plus, these cameras are lighter, and plenty enough robust for the semi-pro use I give them. In fact, the PZ1 has survived several drops (one of them about 4 feet onto concrete-- survived with only an abrasion to the corner) If I drop one of my k2s, they'll invariable be a dent there, and the value of the camera for resale has probably just dropped $100. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Real OT - Go you Wallabies!!!
Bob Rapp wrote: This is for David Mann. Pity I read this Sunday morning... after the match :) :) Cheers, - Dave http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ (out of date) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PDML UK 2002 pic posted
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cotty's smth fluid head. Is Cotty's head getting filled with amber fluids? The 1000mm stayed in the case - way too long and not particularly convenient to focus for anything moving faster than a snail's pace. So you didn't try it with the 1.7x af convertor. Probably wouldn't work at f/13.6. Shame I couldn't stick around long enough to attend :( Cheers, - Dave http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ (out of date) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Semi-OT: Agfa film question
Pat White observed: Vista is quite different from HDC. I used HDC 100 and 200 happily for years, but I didn't like the look of Vista, Thanks. Not the answer I was hoping to hear, but _exactly_ the information I needed: it's different enough that I should try a couple rolls as experiments rather than just stocking up the fridge. I found the Vista to be too warm for my taste, but you may like it. Maybe, and I'll try it and find out, but that _sounds_ as though they went in more of a Kodak-like direction. (Uh, consumer-Kodak that is.) Hmm. -- Glenn - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
PDML UK 2002 - after the end of daymeal - a few quotes
All completely true, albeit maybe taken out of context ;-) Rob Brigham: 'Pictures are like sausages: evryone likes them but nobody wants to know what goes into them...' Richard Seaman: ' Nowadays, maybe I'm becoming a grumpy old man but I seem to like caterpillars more than people...' Rob Brigham: 'I had some homing wine' (!?) Vera (who she?): ' I brought my Nikon - he gave it to me!' (points to Jostein) Jostein (toting a PZ1 with AFTZ 500): 'It was before Pentax came out with an APS camera...honest' + 'it is the camera that is wine-repellant' (you can guess what went on here...) Adelheid: '(to Mike Wilson) Do you do animals?' Mike Wilson ' I photograph them, yes.' Cotty: 'I'll drink to that!' Alma: (after the Cambridge tour) 'I'm not having strange men touching my underwear!' (this should boost the 2003 applicant-rate...) Stefan (Cotty's 8 yr old son) : (asleep on bench) 'Z.' Waitress: (delivering geart-stopping bill) ' Oh! Not just cameras and flashes, but computers too!'. (As you may guess, things went quite well and we have rounded off the day with a bite to eat in a restaurant in Cambridge. A great way to round of a fabulous day. More soon...) Cheers, Cotty. PS Rob S - got the message - will write in due course *hic*. PPS - Here's to everyone who would have like to have come but couldn't, to everyone would would loved to have come but couldn't possibly, and to the rest of you reading this at home or wherever who are with us in spirit: we're with you too - the power of the internet! It's alive. Cheers. ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT:PS Elements Panoramic Shots
Thanks for the reply Herb.I cannot seem to access the page.I'll try later.The images are from the N D1.I shot all withe shutter priority so i'll assume thats were my sky problem is from. So the program will try a best fit.eH Maybe i need to reshot with 1-2 less frames. Thanks DAVE Begin Original Message From: Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 08:15:55 -0400 To: INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pentax- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT:PS Elements Panoramic Shots i do a lot of stitched panoramas and i have quite a bit of experience here. Photoshop Elements is for stitching photos taken with a slight wide angle, definitely no more than 35mm or so, without running into edge distortion effects. for problem number 2, you had to have used one exposure setting for every one of the panorama images when you took the pictures and, if these were scanned from film, you also have to use identical exposure and color adjustment scanner settings for all images. that means no automatic color correction should enabled. for problem number 2, the size you are specifying is the input form factor of each image. this is just to allow the software to figure out the borders when looking for alignment points. you control the size of the result by the DPI setting you use when you you did the scanning or the DPI setting when you save the image. Elements does come with online help and you should be able to access it under the Help menu. for examples of my panoramic work, although they haven't been updated in about a year, see http://users.bestweb.net/~hchong/Panoramas/Panor amas.htm. i have a dozen or so that have done since worthy of posting that have yet to make it to the site. after clicking on a thumbnail, you get to a detail page. when you click on the thumbnail there, you end up with a scrollable and zoomable Quicktime VR of the panorama. since there are several 360 degree panoramas there, Quicktime VR is perfect for showing them off. Herb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: was: The K2 or LX question/ Sid adds his blasphemy
Since when is my PZ1-p user friendly? I think the K1000's simplicity is more user friendly than the modern SLRs of Pentax and others. Jim A. From: Sid Barras [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 14:18:47 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: was: The K2 or LX question/ Sid adds his blasphemy I have the K2, K2DMD. A wonderful camera. In fact, at one time I had 8 K2 bodies, 2 K2DMDs, winders, etc. etc. I sold one DMD and a winder/remote cord/grip to finance an LX purchase. Haven't got it yet, but it will be my next purchase. The K2 had everything one might want from a semi pro positioned manual focus camera. The 125th flash sync is much nicer than 1/60th; the exposure lock was way ahead of its time and very useful. The DMD mechanical trick of having a little periscope to read the aperture setting (won't work on all off brand lenses though) is clever. The DMD other trick of having a red window appear in the viewfinder to alert the photographer of exposure compensation being used is also a neat mechanical accomplishment. But all of these neat little features on the K2, and DMD are available as electronic bells and whistles on succeeding generations of Pentax models, on smaller lighter bodies, with lots of things added later on to make them even more user friendly. The blasphemous point I'm approaching here is this: If you want a camera with lots of features for picture taking, get an ME super, or for even more features, a super program, or a program plus, or add some more features plus autofocus with a PZ 1 or PZ 20, or if better autofocus is required, then ZX (MZ) 5n, or 7. The K2s and DMD I have are toys, beautiful, expensive, finely crafted, precision engineered, but they are my toys. The bulk of picture taking I do for other people is invariably taken with the later models, in particular, the PZ1 first, then the PZ 20, and the super program as the third option. I just like to have better assurance of success, like having TTL flash, mainly. Plus, these cameras are lighter, and plenty enough robust for the semi-pro use I give them. In fact, the PZ1 has survived several drops (one of them about 4 feet onto concrete-- survived with only an abrasion to the corner) If I drop one of my k2s, they'll invariable be a dent there, and the value of the camera for resale has probably just dropped $100. Now, of course I haven't even mentioned the screw mount cameras and lenses. They might even be as good a solution as the K2 for someone who wanted a manual focus camera. The spotmatic F has full frame averaging metering, probably not as good as K2's center weighted, advanced meter. But the screw mount lenses are out there in the thousands, and I've got a complete set of SMC T prime lenses up to the 400, and spent less than $1000. well, that's probably too long-winded of me already but, there you have my 2 cents. Sid - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PDML UK 2002 pic posted
Nice write up Cotty.Good to see the faces behind the emails. The 600mm makes the M50 1.7 look small eh :) VBG Dave Begin Original Message From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 14:50:50 +0100 To: Pentax List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PDML UK 2002 pic posted Pic and a few lines posted for your viewing pleasure: http://www.macads.co.uk/pdml Cheers, Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: was: The K2 or LX question/ Sid adds his blasphemy
First, Sid Said: But all of these neat little features on the K2, and DMD are available as electronic bells and whistles on succeeding generations of Pentax models, on smaller lighter bodies, with lots of things added later on to make them even more user friendly. And then Jim said: Since when is my PZ1-p user friendly? I think the K1000's simplicity is more user friendly than the modern SLRs of Pentax and others. Sid now says: Ah, slightly wrong choice of words. I should have said feature rich maybe. But, I do think the PZ1 rather easy to learn, and each hyper shift or pentax function choice is only a button push and/or dial turn... the bells and whistles you're apt to use are user-friendly enough to be able to recall them without pulling out the manual. I know it's that way for me, and I'm not a genius. Now, some of the crazy things they put on the PZ series that make some of the zoom lenses do odd things-- I tried a couple of those one time, didn't have a doubt I'd never need them; I wondered-- who in the world did they think would use these features enough to warrant the R D time they spent on them. you're right about the K1000-- ten jillion users over the years can't be wrong. But I wonder about the persistence of the K1000's popularity in the used market, like on ebay. On any given day, there might be 100 K1000s for sale, and if you look even closer, usually these models have multiple bidders going after them. But let's face it, the model is a stripped down version of the Spotmatic F, with some features removed. Simple, reliable. But, you also see every day on ebay lots of super programs, ME supers, heck, even SF series, PZ series, all are represented. And, the K1000s are fetching prices higher than the super programs, often! I can't understand that, other than reputation, and buyer's lack of research. The super program is, in my opinion, the best value on the used market, manual focus. Not as simple as the K1000, but come on, who on this list would say the super program is too difficult for just about anyone, even brand newbies, to learn after only a few minutes of examining it, even without a manual? well, getting off track starting to ramble Hope I don't sound like I'm bashing the K1000. I'm sure Pentax is proud of it. Probably kept them in business these last couple of decades when they've sort of fallen behind the C and N, maybe even the M crowd. A good, simple, basic, design. But now, in the marketplace today, I don't follow the logic of buyers of K1000s now. Too many other, better choices in used cameras. Sid Jim Apilado wrote: Jim A. From: Sid Barras [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 14:18:47 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: was: The K2 or LX question/ Sid adds his blasphemy I have the K2, K2DMD. A wonderful camera. In fact, at one time I had 8 K2 bodies, 2 K2DMDs, winders, etc. etc. I sold one DMD and a winder/remote cord/grip to finance an LX purchase. Haven't got it yet, but it will be my next purchase. The K2 had everything one might want from a semi pro positioned manual focus camera. The 125th flash sync is much nicer than 1/60th; the exposure lock was way ahead of its time and very useful. The DMD mechanical trick of having a little periscope to read the aperture setting (won't work on all off brand lenses though) is clever. The DMD other trick of having a red window appear in the viewfinder to alert the photographer of exposure compensation being used is also a neat mechanical accomplishment. The blasphemous point I'm approaching here is this: If you want a camera with lots of features for picture taking, get an ME super, or for even more features, a super program, or a program plus, or add some more features plus autofocus with a PZ 1 or PZ 20, or if better autofocus is required, then ZX (MZ) 5n, or 7. The K2s and DMD I have are toys, beautiful, expensive, finely crafted, precision engineered, but they are my toys. The bulk of picture taking I do for other people is invariably taken with the later models, in particular, the PZ1 first, then the PZ 20, and the super program as the third option. I just like to have better assurance of success, like having TTL flash, mainly. Plus, these cameras are lighter, and plenty enough robust for the semi-pro use I give them. In fact, the PZ1 has survived several drops (one of them about 4 feet onto concrete-- survived with only an abrasion to the corner) If I drop one of my k2s, they'll invariable be a dent there, and the value of the camera for resale has probably just dropped $100. Now, of course I haven't even mentioned the screw mount cameras and lenses. They might even be as good a solution as the K2 for someone who wanted a manual focus camera. The spotmatic F has full frame averaging metering, probably not as good as K2's center weighted, advanced meter. But the screw mount lenses are out there in the thousands, and
RE: PDML UK 2002 pic posted
good to see the pentax crew on the other side of the pond :) big question though: Who's camera was used to snap the photo ? Hi Dave, (last thing at night before an earned slumber) David Seaman's Canon D60. I was seriously impressed by this. Cheers, Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: PDML UK 2002 pic posted
I add one more question: Who was the winner of the beauty contest? Cheers, Ayash. That's easy! Pentax! :-) Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: was: The K2 or LX question/ Sid adds his blasphemy
In a message dated 7/13/2002 6:38:38 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jim said: Since when is my PZ1-p user friendly? I think the K1000's simplicity is more user friendly than the modern SLRs of Pentax and others. The ZX-5n is a modern SLR ... ERNR My photographs hang on the virtual walls at http://members.aol.com/ernreed - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: PDML UK 2002 pic posted
Heh :) Damn those people who have the right gear to be able to acquire DSLR cameras - PENTAX PLEASE PROVIDE US WITH A DIGITAL K-MOUNT CAMERA - PLEASE !!! :) Pleadingly yours, Dave (mind you.. I'll post a beautiful shot with the LX tomorrow) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Cotty Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 7:42 PM To: Pentax List Subject: RE: PDML UK 2002 pic posted good to see the pentax crew on the other side of the pond :) big question though: Who's camera was used to snap the photo ? Hi Dave, (last thing at night before an earned slumber) David Seaman's Canon D60. I was seriously impressed by this. Cheers, Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT:PS Elements Panoramic Shots
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] This is really usefull information. Do you have experience with other panoramic software as well? Is there software out there which would allow for wider angle lenses then 35mm? Do you know anything about MGI PhotoVista for instance? -- Frits J. Wüthrich (Sent with Kmail) unless you are on a Mac and can use Apple Quicktime VR Studio, MGI PhotoVista is the best program out there for under $1KUS. here is a site that i find very useful for learning more about stitching panoramas: http://www.panoguide.com/. you'll find a lot of software reviews and techniques for producing stitched panoramas. i have tried about 10 different programs under $200 and nothing comes close to Photovista if you have properly taken the images. properly taken means that the vertical axis of the images are all parallel. if the images are rotated with respect to one another, then ULead Cool360 can fix the rotation, but its stitching abilities are far less useful. MGI Photovista will allow using lenses as sshort as 15mm, either in fisheye or in wide angle designs. all other programs i have used suffer from severe technical limitations or plain usability problems. the only significant flaw with Photovista is that manual alignment is a pain to do if you are working with large image sizes, say more than 3 megapixels. there are no scroll bars for the adjustment window and you have to carefully find and select the draggable part of the base image to move around the overlapping area and see what needs tuning. MGI has just been sold to Roxio and i am not sure you can buy Photovista anymore. i think you have to buy the entire PhotoSuite package. Herb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT:PS Elements Panoramic Shots
Thanks for the reply Herb.I cannot seem to access the page.I'll try later.The images are from the N D1.I shot all withe shutter priority so i'll assume thats were my sky problem is from. So the program will try a best fit.eH Maybe i need to reshot with 1-2 less frames. Thanks DAVE since you are using a digital camera to shoot your panoramas, you must lock exposure and white balance starting with the first image you shoot. on the consumer cameras such as the Coolpix 5000 i currently use for panoramic work, it's a single menu setting to lock both. you need to level your tripod and camera separately and shoot in portrait mode. this maximizes the vertical dimension. you can always crop later. overlap your images by about 50% for best blending. this means that the center of your current image should become the edge of the next image. it's not a good idea to use a polarizing filter when shooting panoramas. you will exaggerate the effects to the point where the corners of overlapping images don't match in exposure. it may look like vignetting. for three of my recent panoramas, take a look at http://users.bestweb.net/~hchong/temp/ and the files named cg01.jpg, cg04.jpg, and cg06.jpg. these are some pictures i took on my trip to Calgary and Jasper a month ago. these are 6 or 7 original images each stitched with MGI PhotoVista. the originals are about 6500 pixels across and i have downsampled to the 2000 just to give manageable image sizes. i took these using my Coolpix 5000 at the widest zoom i could, the built in 28mm equivalent. just after i got back from vacation, the adapter ring for my 0.68x wide angle accessory lens arrived and i could have shot at a 19mm equivalent, using fewer shots but having less resolution in the final image to cover a certain angle. when i am able to take all of my gear instead of travelling light, i use a Kaidan Kiwi-L panorama head screwed into my regular ball head on my tripod. this is only feasible with my digital camera since it is very light and i have a small ball head. the Kiwi head allows me to set the nodal point properly for doing full 360s. when shooting only 5 or 6 shots (up to 150 degrees), i can usually do them hand held. the vertical alignment and minimum overlap are both critical. i don't shoot panoramas using film anymore. the Coolpix 5000's 5 megapixel images are more than enough for most work, and slides rotate slightly in my scanner's holder relative to one another and also because of the mounting jig for mounting slides. if you use strips of slides or negatives, you will have better luck. Herb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: camera strap. now OT
Funny thing about the wallet-chain guys...they are usually guys that you'd NEVER consider mugging anyway. Cory Waters - Original Message - From: Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 4:41 PM Subject: Re: camera strap Not really. It's common here in the rural southern US to see men with a chain attached to their wallet and their belt. Given the low crime rate in these areas, it's more of an affectation than an actual deterrent. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/13/02 10:51AM Do you mean the camera snatchers? - Ayash. On Sat, 13 Jul 2002, Steve Desjardins wrote: Being in the rural south US, I am tempted to just keep the camera on a chain attached to my belt. Steve - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: camera strap
Being from the formerly industrialized North East US, that's a fashion statement usually associated with the Motor Cycles up here, (keeps the wallet from falling out on the highway, I guess). At 04:41 PM 7/13/2002 -0400, you wrote: Not really. It's common here in the rural southern US to see men with a chain attached to their wallet and their belt. Given the low crime rate in these areas, it's more of an affectation than an actual deterrent. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/13/02 10:51AM Do you mean the camera snatchers? - Ayash. On Sat, 13 Jul 2002, Steve Desjardins wrote: Being in the rural south US, I am tempted to just keep the camera on a chain attached to my belt. Steve - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The Great PDML Print Off
I've been negligent about this. I have to haul my butt down into the darkroom some day soon and print those pics. But it's summer. It's hard to keep me indoors during this kind of weather. However,I do plan to do it. Paul William Robb wrote: Here is an update on the print off: I have recieved work from Cotty, Bob Poe and John Coyle. I have not opened them, as I don't have my own prints done yet. This is still fun. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The Great PDML Print Off
- Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist Subject: Re: The Great PDML Print Off I've been negligent about this. I have to haul my butt down into the darkroom some day soon and print those pics. But it's summer. It's hard to keep me indoors during this kind of weather. However,I do plan to do it. This would have something to do with why mine aren't done either, I guess. Bill - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Super Program vibration
- Original Message - From: Ayash Kanto Mukherjee Subject: Re: Super Program vibration Your test not only points out the extent of shutter/mirror vibration of Super Program but also it gives serves as a test for the three tripods that you used. Of course, an wooden tripod dampens the vibration more than metal tripods but there are some points of disadvantage of wooden tripod over a metal tripod. Can you please point those out? Hi, I'm glad you found it useful. Funny thing, when I posted that test originally, in Sepember 2000, I also ran the same test on the LX. I recall that I took some flack because the LX was just back from being serviced, and the Super Program was an unserviced camera. That would mean that whichever LX it was, it only lasted about a year and a half until it required another CLA. But I digress.. About the only disadvantages to wood are the weight (the Zone VI is HEAVY!!!), and the legs can bind if the humidity changes greatly, rapidly. The advantages are that they are very tough, and easy to repair if something does break. Oh yes, they don't transmit vibration, either. Does anyone use a Berlebach? How heavy are they, and how tall do they go? The Zone VI has no centre column, but will still put a camera almost 2 meters in the air. Unfortunately, it weighs almost 8 kilos. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: About the 1952-2002 - 50 years of Pentax SLR camerasposter
From: Dario Bonazza 2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 18:36:23 +0200 Subject: Re: About the 1952-2002 - 50 years of Pentax SLR camerasposter frank theriault wrote: I'll second that, Dave. I'd like (at least) one. They're beautiful! . . . And, I'd be more than happy to accept shipment for any folks in the greater Toronto area who want any, if it will save on postage (which I'm sure it will). Dario said: So I believe it's quite time you Canadians (and US folks too) will agree about who are the PDML distributors in your countries, isn't it? I would be willing to be a U.S. distribution point. I figured, based on Dario's figures, assuming the he was sending 20 at a time to the U.S., and assuming $3.60 for USPS Priority, that it would come to about $9.00 to $10.00 per poster. BUT, this doesn't allow for a cost to buy mailing tubes ($1.00?) or for the fact that USPS Priority is now $3.80. So, between $9.50 and $10.50 or so. I can refine this once I have the exact number of people who are committed t buying a specific number of posters. Those who want me to deal for them, send me (Off List!) Name Address email address Number of posters Upper limit on cost. (With fewer posters, the price will be higher due to having fewer items across which to amortize the mailing cost from Italy. So, at what price point would this all get too high for you?) I'll be traveling this week, and then on vacation 27 July through 11 August, but I don't believe that will interfere with this project. Again - contact me OFF list. I have a filter that routes PDML mail into a seperate file; if I get too behind, like when I travel, I sometimes just dump the whole file. Messages sent to me direct go into my standard InBox which I do read. Stan Halpin [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PDML UK 2002 pic posted
Cotty - you have been doing a seriously good job organizing and now reporting the Gathering. Thank you for allowing us wannabes who would like to be there with you to participate vicariously through your fine prose. And presumably your equally fine photos . . . As I keep muttering about Grandfather Mountain, maybe next time. Stan From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 14:50:50 +0100 To: Pentax List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PDML UK 2002 pic posted Pic and a few lines posted for your viewing pleasure: http://www.macads.co.uk/pdml Cheers, Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
