what is a good 20mm lens?
i have been thinking about the following 1. mir 20mm 2. pentax 20mm M 3. pentax fa 20mm 4. vivitar 20 mm 82mm filter 5. sogilor 20mm 58mm filter 1, 3, & 5 are in the price range so what are the good and bad for both? 2&3 are pentax so are higher priced but i asume better quality optically what is the difference between the two which is better i dont care about autofocus thanks - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: ZX-L (Was: Upgrading to auto focus
On Sun, 28 Jul 2002, Andrew Robinson wrote: > This is probably an odd question. Is the spot metering usable? It depends on how you use it. As it is tied to AE-Lock, it would not work in manual mode; it only works in aperture priority, shutter priority and program modes. And you cannot do spot metering continuously. You have to select the area, and press the button; and if you select a new area, you have to press the button twice to get a new reading. > A slightly braoder question: is there anything the ZX-5N can do that the > ZX-L cannot, at least in some fashion? ZX-5n can do center weighted metering for any lens (only older lens for ZX-L). ZX-5n can do continuous spot metering without pressing any buttons. ZX-5n also has panorama frame (I, for one, won't miss this "feature"). Some have complained the ZX-L's use of pentamirror instead of ZX-5n's pentaprism. I have been using MZ-7 (which has the same pentamirror viewfinder as ZX-L) side by side with my Super A and ME Super (both pentaprisms), and personally, I don't find it a problem at all. -- --Lawrence Kwan--SMS Info Service/Ringtone Convertor--PGP:finger/www-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.vex.net/~lawrence/ -Key ID:0x6D23F3C4-- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: RE: FA 100mm f=2.8 Macro and macro ring light: Questions
Hi all, Some weeks ago I put some pictures of reflectors I've been using used for macro-photography with flash on my web site. I've just put them back. The bottom row are close-ups taken using the reflector contraption seen attached to the P30T. http://Personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams/hold/index.htm I've used a ring flash in the laboratory. In my experience the resulting pictures are flat and uninteresting on the whole. For my purposes at the time this was not a problem. I wanted detail and high resolution. Vic uses extra reflectors to improve modelling. Why not start off with a couple of pieces of aluminium, or even white cardboard, and see what the results are like. Many of the close-ups on my website were taken with simple reflectors made from, to start with, white cardboard, later covered with aluminium foil. The latest version is made of aluminium and has two parts. The results are satisfying and there is no need to worry about modelling, it comes with the contraption. I added the lower piece - after a few rolls - to increase shadow detail. The first frame is a picture of the hemispherical sensor of a Seconic Digilite F taken with the Sigma 50 mm F 2.8 macro of which I am inordinately fond. It read a nice f 22. The reflection of the upper reflector and it's wings can be seen clearly on the dome. This tells me that the angle of the reflector is correct and the flash is being directed to the right place. In practice, the light is quite diffuse and at 1:2 and 1:3 it still illuminates the subject. For a dollar you can make one yourself and save $449 for something else. I used half millimetre aluminium sheet to keep the weight down. It's attached to the flash by Velcro and still sags a bit. To get the angle right (see pictures) the thing is bent up a bit to compensate for the weight. Don Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery Updated: March 30, 2002 - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 6:38 AM Subject: Re: RE: FA 100mm f=2.8 Macro and macro ring light: Questions > No they are in fact caused by ringlights. Ringlights, especially large ones, > are very popular right now with fashion photography. I do own the af080C ring > flash and use it with 100 and 90 mm macros. They are very good for flowers, > insects etc. I enjoy mine and use it quite a bit. Wouldn't sell it for > anything. If that helps at all. The one you are looking at is newer and > offers a little more flexibility in modelling the lighting. I sometimes use a > secondary flash or a bounce card to add modelling > Vic > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re[2]: AF zoom?
on 28.07.02 0:04, Jacek Sokolowski at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > SP> Take Pentax SMC-FA 28-70/4 AL - you can find one on e-bay for about 100$. > > yeah, I keep looking - but it seems quite hard to find where I am (i. e. > in Germany). Only new ones for about 230 euro. You must be patient - I have bought one for my girlfriend for 70 Eur. > How about SMC Pentax-F 3,5-4,5/35-135 and Tamron AF 28-80/3,5-5,6 ASF > or Sigma 28-105/ 3,8-5,6 UC III aspherical IF? You can consider Sigma 28-135/3.8-5.6. I have bought one and I am quite pleased with effects - that's not worse lens that 28-70/4, and I confirmed it in many reviews in foto magazines (in French Chasseur d'Image it has got the same rating as new Pentax 28-105/3.2-4.5, in German Color Foto it was even slightly better that old 28-105 powerzoom, in Foto Magazin the same rating as this Pentax...). -- Pozdrowienia Sylwek - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: LX + winder - problem!
Hi, > There can be several reasons that this is not the case. Firstly check for > debris in any of the receptors, check that the gold electrical pins on the > winder the contacts on the base of the body are clean. Also if the assembly has > been over-tightened at some stage the top of the winder could be warped or the > cover on the base of the camera could be distorted preventing the units from > fitting together intimately. Look very carefully at the gaps as you put > together the two pieces. > > Other than that it could possibly be a pair of mechanical mis-alignments that > prevent this particular set of components working together reliably. > Thanks Rob, I should check it! There is one new thing: I took it back from the service and tried again at the weekend. I was surprised, because with the remote release cable it works perfectly now, even single and continueous mode! But the problem is the same with the release button on the body, it still doesn't work. Because I would like to use mostly for macrophotography with the remote release, now the situation is better for me. Anyway, thank you, I should follow your hints! Cheers, Ivan (MuzX) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S gripe and Oly pics from the weekend
On 28 Jul 2002 at 20:58, Brad Dobo wrote: > I have to agree on that, my complaint with my old MZ-5N and now the MZ-S is that > stupid rewind button, I switch rolls often and need that damned Pentax strap, > although a wider more comfortable one would be nice. Hi Brad, I have Tamrac straps with QRs on all my cases and cameras now (except the M6 and LX) so I'm going to have to jerry rig another rewind button device to clip onto the camera side of the QR since the straps get interchanged regularly. This allows me to swap between short hand grips to grippy suade or soft sheep skin straps. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
One more thing for sale!
A K24/2.8, in great condition. $150 for lense $10us shipping world wide. Email me off list if interested. Regards, Paul - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Vivitar 19mm?
Hi Simon, and welcome to the list. In the range 17/18-35, I have been very pleased with my Sigma 18-35, which preceded the 17-35, I think. Very sharp, good contrast, and not too much distortion for a lens of this specification. Most recent reports of current Vivitar lens are a little disappointing, down to downright bad, so I would tend to avoid them. Sigma, on the other hand, seem to be making some really well-specified and optically good lens recently. Build quality is Ok: mine is very light, which suggests mainly plastic elements, but, what the heck, it all works! I have found only one minor problem- the lens base cap is designed for either Pentax/Ricoh bayonet mounts, or the Sigma mount and it can jam on a Pentax lens if you do not mount it carefully. HTH John Coyle Brisbane, Australia On Monday, July 29, 2002 8:05 AM, Simon Storey [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > Hiya, been lurking for a while and slowly making sense of it all. > > For a while now my widest lens has been a 24mm, and I fancy trying > something wider. Cost IS a consideration, so I know I won't get much. > Vivitar do an MF 19mm prime (?89) and AF 19-35mmm zoom for a little > more > (?119) - reviews seem to be fairly mixed/poor. > > Anyone have any thoughts, or recommendations about alternatives? Good > ones > to look out for s/h? I'm in London - any good places to go shopping? > > thanks, Simon - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Article on Kodak
In a message dated 7/28/2002 8:18:19 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > You may be right, but my experience with their previous efforts at > software have all been dismal at best. That was mostly (medical) > imaging stuff. > Doug, Well, what I meant wasn't referring directly to computer programs but hardware like cameras and things. That's why I had software in quotes. -Brendan MacRae - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S gripe and Oly pics from the weekend
Heh...interesting, I have like 8 different Swiss Army knives and didn't think to include one in my camera gear. They should have a 'photographer's' knife! - Original Message - From: "gfen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2002 11:05 PM Subject: Re: MZ-S gripe and Oly pics from the weekend > On Sun, 28 Jul 2002, Brad Dobo wrote: > > I have to agree on that, my complaint with my old MZ-5N and now the MZ-S is > > that stupid rewind button, I switch rolls often and need that damned Pentax > > strap, although a wider more comfortable one would be nice. > > Use a twig or a pen point. I'll use my swiss army knife's awl to to do > it. > > -- > http://www.infotainment.org > "The destructive character is cheerful." - Walter Benjamin > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S gripe and Oly pics from the weekend
The stem of some grass blades (yes, even short ones) should be strong and thin enough also. Not that grass is EVERYWHERE, but it is in alot of places. IL Bill gfen wrote: > On Sun, 28 Jul 2002, Brad Dobo wrote: > >>I have to agree on that, my complaint with my old MZ-5N and now the MZ-S is >>that stupid rewind button, I switch rolls often and need that damned Pentax >>strap, although a wider more comfortable one would be nice. > > > Use a twig or a pen point. I'll use my swiss army knife's awl to to do > it. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S gripe and Oly pics from the weekend
John Mullan wrote: > On Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:22:22 +1000, Rob Studdert wrote: > >> >>Each time I get out with my Oly I'm becoming more and more irritated by the >>fact that there is no Pentax DSLR (especially when I have a clutch of great >>Pentax glass on me). >> >>http://www.home.aone.net.au/audiobias/P7271062mc.jpg (~311kB) >>http://www.home.aone.net.au/audiobias/P7271177mc.jpg (~190kB) >>http://www.home.aone.net.au/audiobias/P7271189mc.jpg (~300kB) >> >>Cheers, >> >>Rob Studdert >>HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA >>Tel +61-2-9554-4110 >>UTC(GMT) +10 Hours >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html >>- >>This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >>go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >>visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . >> > > Rob, > > I'm jealous. For 14 years I was a corner marshall at Watkins Glen in New York, >former > home of the US Gran Prix. Everyone says "Gee you must have some great pictures!" >but > being on the front lines, there was no time for a camera. > http://www.home.aone.net.au/audiobias/P7271177mc.jpg shows why. Haven't taken any > motorsports pictures in over 20 years. > > jm Man, those are some GREAT shots. I can't believe they weren't taken with a Pentax ;-) Seriously though, I feel your frustration regarding the lack of DSLR support. IL Bill - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: RE: FA 100mm f=2.8 Macro and macro ring light: Questions
No they are in fact caused by ringlights. Ringlights, especially large ones, are very popular right now with fashion photography. I do own the af080C ring flash and use it with 100 and 90 mm macros. They are very good for flowers, insects etc. I enjoy mine and use it quite a bit. Wouldn't sell it for anything. If that helps at all. The one you are looking at is newer and offers a little more flexibility in modelling the lighting. I sometimes use a secondary flash or a bounce card to add modelling Vic - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: July PUG review from Cotty
Cotty wrote... Boat at Old harbor Ed Keeney Another super shot. How many times have we photographed old wooden tubs sitting on the sand? How many turn out well? This lovely study of a marine environment confirms Ed's abilities. Well done. Excellent scan BTW. Cotty - thanks for the kind words. I started the year off well, but have faltered in my ability the past few months. The first time 'I' saw this boat was in 1994 (could have been there for years before). This group is really helping me focus on my shots more and be aware of what I'm looking at. Still working on the scanning - hopefully some day I'll get that negative scanner I want. Thanks again... Ed - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Article on Kodak
On Thu, 25 Jul 2002 00:59:24 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Their best bet, in my opinion, will be to continue to look > at the "software" side of things; format creation, photo/picture > CD, other digital "processing" services, etc. You may be right, but my experience with their previous efforts at software have all been dismal at best. That was mostly (medical) imaging stuff. TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: Re; 20Mb drives
On Sun, 28 Jul 2002 22:39:45 -0400, Herb Chong wrote: > [Winchester] was the IBM code name for a faster and low > power consumption drive for mainframes. On Mon, 29 Jul 2002 12:30:45 +1000, Rob Studdert wrote: > Check here for information (unconfirmed) on the origin > of Winchester disks: > http://www.ericlindsay.com/computer/history.htm I've heard all of those and more. I've heard four or five different stories from as many people, who all claimed to have worked on the original project. I've consigned that one to the "we'll never really know" file. TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S gripe and Oly pics from the weekend
On Sun, 28 Jul 2002, Brad Dobo wrote: > I have to agree on that, my complaint with my old MZ-5N and now the MZ-S is > that stupid rewind button, I switch rolls often and need that damned Pentax > strap, although a wider more comfortable one would be nice. Use a twig or a pen point. I'll use my swiss army knife's awl to to do it. -- http://www.infotainment.org "The destructive character is cheerful." - Walter Benjamin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: Re; 20Mb drives
>Yep, but that term goes back to when that type of drive was developed for "big iron". At least supposedly. It could be an urban legend, though. TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ< it was the IBM code name for a faster and low power consumption drive for mainframes. Herb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: Re; 20Mb drives
On 28 Jul 2002 at 22:17, Doug Franklin wrote: > On Sun, 28 Jul 2002 21:05:06 -0500, Len Paris wrote: > > > Back in the 5MB drive days, they called them "Winchesters". > > Yep, but that term goes back to when that type of drive was developed > for "big iron". At least supposedly. It could be an urban legend, > though. Check here for information (unconfirmed) on the origin of Winchester disks: http://www.ericlindsay.com/computer/history.htm Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S gripe and Oly pics from the weekend
On Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:22:22 +1000, Rob Studdert wrote: >Hi Team, > >I had an irritating experience with my MZ-S on the weekend, I found that I had >left the PF film rewind function to manual however I didn't have the Pentax >strap on the camera. The fact that there is no way to change modes before the >film is re-wound or that there isn't a key sequence to initiate rewind is >annoying to say the least. Short of pushing some dirt into the stupid rewind >recess I had nothing on me or around me to depress it. > >This was my first outing with a full AF kit (motor racing), I had with me MZ-S, >24f2, 77f1.8 and 200f2.8 + 1.4TC, being a complete AF novice I found it quite >disconcerting that when I occasionally hit the tarmac with the AF sensors the >lens would spin off way out of focus due to the lack of detail. How do regular >AF users get around this problem? > >The images attached were captured with my Oly E-10 at 5500øK CT, the images >contain all EXIF exposure information including IPTC/NAA copywrite information >and embedded sRGB colour space tag. Colour has never been so easy to manage. >They have all been reduced to half size, subject to soft Unsharp masking using >Photoshop and then jpeg compressed. Unfortunately the maximum equivalent 35mm >FL of the Oly is 135mm so there are no great close ups however I'd be please to >hear how the images render on your respective systems. > >Each time I get out with my Oly I'm becoming more and more irritated by the >fact that there is no Pentax DSLR (especially when I have a clutch of great >Pentax glass on me). > >http://www.home.aone.net.au/audiobias/P7271062mc.jpg (~311kB) >http://www.home.aone.net.au/audiobias/P7271177mc.jpg (~190kB) >http://www.home.aone.net.au/audiobias/P7271189mc.jpg (~300kB) > >Cheers, > >Rob Studdert >HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA >Tel +61-2-9554-4110 >UTC(GMT) +10 Hours >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html >- >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > Rob, I'm jealous. For 14 years I was a corner marshall at Watkins Glen in New York, former home of the US Gran Prix. Everyone says "Gee you must have some great pictures!" but being on the front lines, there was no time for a camera. http://www.home.aone.net.au/audiobias/P7271177mc.jpg shows why. Haven't taken any motorsports pictures in over 20 years. jm - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: Re; 20Mb drives
On Sun, 28 Jul 2002 21:05:06 -0500, Len Paris wrote: > Back in the 5MB drive days, they called them "Winchesters". Yep, but that term goes back to when that type of drive was developed for "big iron". At least supposedly. It could be an urban legend, though. TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re; 20Mb drives
I initially sent this response off-list, but it was rejected as apparently one of the intermediate ISP's (Access One) generates too much porn! Hi Geoff: I might be a year or two out! I know I bought an IBM PC with a 5 or 10Mb drive for my company towards the end of 1983, and added a 20Mb removable drive card (can't remember the brand) within a year. Prior to that, we'd been working with an HP86A system, with all of 64k of RAM and twin floppies as our storage media! John Coyle Brisbane, Australia - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Need a new digital camera, what now?
Steve wrote: > Well I wrote Pentax, and the reply I got was not very promising regarding > a DSLR. Because the market is demanding more popular-priced digital cameras, PENTAX has decided to postpone indefinitely the six-megapixel SLR project shown at PMA and to redirect our resources toward developing more new consumer-level products, which are receiving widespread popular support in the marketplace. Pål wrote: Huh? You don't find it promising that they will manufacture a digital slr that doesn't cost $7000? Their own words: > Additionally, the knowledge and experience we have gained through > development of the six-megapixel SLR concept will be used in developing > other SLR-type digital cameras, which we expect will be priced more > competitively, will address consumer needs more directly, and will be > brought to the market in a more timely manner. So what may we glean from all this: Forget a DSLR based on anything the opposition has. Expect a radical new body with redesigned lenses to match. Don't expect it any time soon. Don't expect it to be up to professional standards. Frankly, not what I wanted to hear. Regards, Max EOM NOTICE - This message and any attached files may contain information that is confidential and/or subject of legal privilege intended only for use by the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient or the person responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this message in error and that any dissemination, copying or use of this message or attachment is strictly forbidden, as is the disclosure of the information therein. If you have received this message in error please notify the sender immediately and delete the message. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Vivitar 19mm?
Hiya, been lurking for a while and slowly making sense of it all. For a while now my widest lens has been a 24mm, and I fancy trying something wider. Cost IS a consideration, so I know I won't get much. Vivitar do an MF 19mm prime (£89) and AF 19-35mmm zoom for a little more (£119) - reviews seem to be fairly mixed/poor. Anyone have any thoughts, or recommendations about alternatives? Good ones to look out for s/h? I'm in London - any good places to go shopping? thanks, Simon pics at http://www.felidae.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
ZX-L (Was: Upgrading to auto focus
Edward and Peter, Thank you for pointing out the spot metering on the ZX-L. I went back through all the literature I had downloaded and found no mention of it. This morning I downloaded the owner's manual and finally found it listed in the appendix on Pentax Program functions. This is probably an odd question. Is the spot metering usable? I've never had spot metering on one of my cameras before, so I'll believe whatever you tell me ;). There have been situations where I thought having spot metering would have helped me. I found a site on the internet which described a Zone Five system using a camera spot meter. Basically, meter the specific object of interest, decide whether the object should be white, light gray, medium gray, dark gray or black, set the exposure compensation accordingly, then compose and snap the shot. Is this kind of usage possible with the ZX-L's spot metering? A slightly braoder question: is there anything the ZX-5N can do that the ZX-L cannot, at least in some fashion? I think I have talked myself back into buying the ZX-L. Thanks! Andrew PDML wrote: > Hello Andrew, > > Friday, July 26, 2002, 9:21:09 PM, you wrote: > > acn> The ZX-L does lack some of the features of the ZX-5N that > acn> "serious" photographers like. Spot metering is one of them. > > ZX-L HAS spot metering, it just hidden in user functions and coupled > with exposure lock. Center veighted metering there is also, but not > selectable - switches to it automatically, when M or K lens mounted. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: backup (was Digital doubts)
No. What should be learned is that backups have to be tested. It has to be verified that the backup hardware/software/restore all work at least once. I'll bet that none of these corrupt backups had ever worked or been tested in their current configuration. What paper copies are you going to use to restore an electronic, transaction based database from?? From: William Kane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . . . What do we learn from this? Always keep a paper copy (which I had), and always BACKUP DIGITAL DATA. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: manual lenses on autofocus body?
"Len Paris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I understand that but does that mean that I can't use >multi-pattern (matrix) metering when I use this lens on my >PZ-1p? If I can't, how come the PZ-1p shows all indications of >using it? > >I guess what I'm trying to say is, if the camera supposedly >switches automatically to some other metering mode when a K or M >lens is attached, why doesn't it indicate the change in the >viewfinder or on the LCD panel? Is that a bug in the PZ-1p? My guess is a software glitch in the PZ-1p. Try metering a few complex lighting scenes while switching from CW to Matrix metering and see if there's a difference. I don't have an A50/1.2 to try it myself :( > >- Original Message - >From: "Mark Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2002 1:30 PM >Subject: Re: manual lenses on autofocus body? > > >> "Len Paris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >Well, you see, I've read what Mark said about the A50 f/1.2 >here >> >on the list a few other times. It supposedly has to do with >a >> >difference in the lens contacts, or something. >> >> It's because the A50/1.2 actually *doesn't have* any >minimum/maximum aperture >> contacts, just the single "A" (program/shutter-preferred) >contact. So cameras >> can't tell the A50/1.2 from *any* K or M series lens. See the >information on >> Boz's page at >http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/extras/K-mount/Kaf.html >> >> >Perhaps the >> >PZ-1p is just different enough, compared to the ZX-5n, that >it >> >doesn't have this problem. I wouldn't have thought so, >though, >> >because the ZX-5n is a newer body than the PZ-1p. >> > >> >Anyway, I've never experienced any problems using the A50 >f/1.2 >> >on my PZ-1p. >> >> Right. It just behaves as if you've mounted a K-series or >M-series lens. >> >> -- >> Mark Roberts >> www.robertstech.com >> - >> This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To >unsubscribe, >> go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't >forget to >> visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . >- >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re[2]: Digital doubts
Thank you Robert. I only recently got involved with digital by buying a camera, an Epson, off of eBay. I now find myself realizing that I need to get more memory/software/equipment in order to do digital justice. I have decided to use it sparingly and just devote myself to film like I did before. I won't be hopping on the bandwagon wanting a Pentax digital SLR like others. Jim A. > From: "Robert Woerner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 10:18:02 -0400 > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Re[2]: Digital doubts > > OK, FWIW, > > I just put my negatives in a negative page, into the notebook and on the > shelf. When I want a print I take the page or pages to the photofinisher > and voila, I get prints made. > > This even worked for some 18 year old TriX Pan negatives stored in old PVC > containing pages that were "lost". They turned up when my mom cleaned her > garage (no heat, no air and a sometimes leaky roof). Got great prints from > them. > > Digital is awfully convenient now but I think it lacks simple staying power > (archival wise). I think digital is most attractive in its ability to > complement (scan negatives) rather than replace film. > > Just my two cents worth. :-) > > Regards, > > Robert > - Original Message - > From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Pentax List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2002 3:25 AM > Subject: Re: Re[2]: Digital doubts > > >>> I do use CD-R for bulk generally non-critical data such as image or audio >>> files, but I do ensure that for best integrity I accrue a full CD worth > of >>> files before I write and close the disc in a single session. If I feel > the >>> files deserve more security I write a second copy of the data on a > different >>> brand of media just to be sure :-) >> >> I use both Zip disks and CDR for backup, further backed up by paper . >> >> The Zips get used for things that change on a day-to-day basis such as >> email files and Internet Explorer files. I back these up about once a >> week and have never had a problem with any drive (we have >> three) or disk. I did notice once that when I was transferring some files >> from one computer to another that one file (a jpeg) had become >> corrupted, but as a test, I reformatted the Zip, copied again and it was >> fine. The Zips also get used as a little network. My printer is set up >> with a desktop Mac, so if I want to print something from the PowerBook, >> it goes across via Zip. One or two Zips get used several times a day, and >> aside from the above, it's always worked. These Zip disks are over two >> years old, and form a longevity test. >> >> The MacAds web site gets a full backup onto Zip after each change, which >> is usually twice a week, as well as put onto CD twice a year (more later). >> >> For photographs stored digitally, I keep a folder that acts as a 'waiting >> area' for pictures that have been scanned and optimised (and sometimes >> printed). When this fills up to a certain level, the oldest go onto a CDR >> in one go, one session. When the CDR is completed, it immediately gets >> tested by opening the files, making sure the pics open okay. I store each >> pic in native Photoshop format, seeing no reason to store compressed >> images given that CDRs are so cheap. After each such session, the >> original files on the Mac are deleted. >> >> It is my intention to re-copy each CD as it approaches 5 years of age, >> keeping all copies. >> >> I thought about getting a larger drive on the desktop, but it didn't >> strike me as a high priority. Also, I've got it working so well with the >> current drive, the OS, the whole shebang is very stable and I have maybe >> two crashes a year, and it's ALWAYS due to IE5 and a web session! (Blue >> and White G3 400, 512Mb/6Gb) >> >> All important info, especially passwords, are recorded in a small >> hardback notebook. This is probably the most invaluable of all. Ever log >> onto a website and can't remember the password? Every day with me. That >> little notebook shuffles in and out of its place on the shelf next to me >> more than I would ever have thought. Also in there are all the silly >> little settings and values for things like ISP diallup info, connection >> info, TCP/IP info, helplines, etc etc. I saw a colleague do it some years >> ago, and I remarked how simple and straightforward it was. >> >> Finally, about twice a year, the whole hard drive gets backed up onto >> CDRs. This includes a stripped down version so that with one single CD, I >> can get a freshly reformatted hard drive up and running (say in the event >> of a catastrophic crash, or a new drive) with all my bits and bobs >> appearing just how I like them, and relevant applications on call. [For >> those on PC and who may not know, Macs are heavily customisable, and no >> two are identical in terms of how they appear and work to the user. Some >> are so heavily customised that sitting in f
RE: FA 100mm f=2.8 Macro and macro ring light: Questions
On top of that the working distance is going to be really short with the 24mm so that helps the coverage situation. Secondly, I think a reverse mounted 24mm F2 is going to be a poor choice for true macro applications. Just a hunch JCO > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of J. C. O'Connell > Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2002 4:29 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: FA 100mm f=2.8 Macro and macro ring light: Questions > > > a 24mm lens with that much extension is no > longer going to be a wide angle, the efl > would be rather long actually so coverage shouldnt be a problem > even with a 24mm. of course its wise to try just > to be sure. > JCO > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of William Robb > > Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2002 4:39 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: FA 100mm f=2.8 Macro and macro ring light: Questions > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: J. C. O'Connell > > Subject: RE: FA 100mm f=2.8 Macro and macro ring light: > > Questions > > > > > > > Sorry, > > > > > > but the whole point of a ring flash is for photography > > > CLOSE to the lens. In fact if used for normal range > > > photography, the ringlight will acually increase redeye > > > because the flash is so close to the lens axis as the subject > > > gets farther away. > > > > > > re: "rings" in models eyes isnt caused by ringlights, > > > probably due to flashhead centered in an umbrella > > > causing a donut shaped large light. > > > > I don't know how red eye entered the discussion. > > I suggest you try to reverse mount a short lens, like the 24mm > > that was mentioned in the thread to a bellows, put a ring light > > on and see if the illumination is full. > > Then get back to me. > > William Robb > > - > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: FA 100mm f=2.8 Macro and macro ring light: Questions
a 24mm lens with that much extension is no longer going to be a wide angle, the efl would be rather long actually so coverage shouldnt be a problem even with a 24mm. of course its wise to try just to be sure. JCO > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of William Robb > Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2002 4:39 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: FA 100mm f=2.8 Macro and macro ring light: Questions > > > - Original Message - > From: J. C. O'Connell > Subject: RE: FA 100mm f=2.8 Macro and macro ring light: > Questions > > > > Sorry, > > > > but the whole point of a ring flash is for photography > > CLOSE to the lens. In fact if used for normal range > > photography, the ringlight will acually increase redeye > > because the flash is so close to the lens axis as the subject > > gets farther away. > > > > re: "rings" in models eyes isnt caused by ringlights, > > probably due to flashhead centered in an umbrella > > causing a donut shaped large light. > > I don't know how red eye entered the discussion. > I suggest you try to reverse mount a short lens, like the 24mm > that was mentioned in the thread to a bellows, put a ring light > on and see if the illumination is full. > Then get back to me. > William Robb > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: manual lenses on autofocus body?
I understand that but does that mean that I can't use multi-pattern (matrix) metering when I use this lens on my PZ-1p? If I can't, how come the PZ-1p shows all indications of using it? I guess what I'm trying to say is, if the camera supposedly switches automatically to some other metering mode when a K or M lens is attached, why doesn't it indicate the change in the viewfinder or on the LCD panel? Is that a bug in the PZ-1p? Len --- - Original Message - From: "Mark Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2002 1:30 PM Subject: Re: manual lenses on autofocus body? > "Len Paris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Well, you see, I've read what Mark said about the A50 f/1.2 here > >on the list a few other times. It supposedly has to do with a > >difference in the lens contacts, or something. > > It's because the A50/1.2 actually *doesn't have* any minimum/maximum aperture > contacts, just the single "A" (program/shutter-preferred) contact. So cameras > can't tell the A50/1.2 from *any* K or M series lens. See the information on > Boz's page at http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/extras/K-mount/Kaf.html > > >Perhaps the > >PZ-1p is just different enough, compared to the ZX-5n, that it > >doesn't have this problem. I wouldn't have thought so, though, > >because the ZX-5n is a newer body than the PZ-1p. > > > >Anyway, I've never experienced any problems using the A50 f/1.2 > >on my PZ-1p. > > Right. It just behaves as if you've mounted a K-series or M-series lens. > > -- > Mark Roberts > www.robertstech.com > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: FA 100mm f=2.8 Macro and macro ring light: Questions
- Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: RE: FA 100mm f=2.8 Macro and macro ring light: Questions > Sorry, > > but the whole point of a ring flash is for photography > CLOSE to the lens. In fact if used for normal range > photography, the ringlight will acually increase redeye > because the flash is so close to the lens axis as the subject > gets farther away. > > re: "rings" in models eyes isnt caused by ringlights, > probably due to flashhead centered in an umbrella > causing a donut shaped large light. I don't know how red eye entered the discussion. I suggest you try to reverse mount a short lens, like the 24mm that was mentioned in the thread to a bellows, put a ring light on and see if the illumination is full. Then get back to me. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[2]: FA 100mm f=2.8 Macro and macro ring light: Questions
Hi, > re: "rings" in models eyes isnt caused by ringlights, > probably due to flashhead centered in an umbrella > causing a donut shaped large light. that rather depends. The ring-lights they use for fashion shoots and cover-girl make-up shots, which are often shadow-less and show ring highlights, are not like the dinky little things we're used to. They're about the size of a large car tyre (or tire, if you prefer). --- Bob mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: FA 100mm f=2.8 Macro and macro ring light: Questions
Sorry, but the whole point of a ring flash is for photography CLOSE to the lens. In fact if used for normal range photography, the ringlight will acually increase redeye because the flash is so close to the lens axis as the subject gets farther away. re: "rings" in models eyes isnt caused by ringlights, probably due to flashhead centered in an umbrella causing a donut shaped large light. JCO > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of William Robb > Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2002 3:42 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: FA 100mm f=2.8 Macro and macro ring light: Questions > > > An adendum to ring light use: > Ringlights dont necessarily provide full and even illumination > really close to the lens. This will show up if using short focal > lengths, especially reversed. Make sure that you stay outside of > the minimum coverage distance. > Or, rig some sort of reflector out of a pie plate to go onto the > ringlight. > William Robb > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: FA 100mm f=2.8 Macro and macro ring light: Questions
An adendum to ring light use: Ringlights dont necessarily provide full and even illumination really close to the lens. This will show up if using short focal lengths, especially reversed. Make sure that you stay outside of the minimum coverage distance. Or, rig some sort of reflector out of a pie plate to go onto the ringlight. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: FA 100mm f=2.8 Macro and macro ring light: Questions
Hi Bill, > I don't know if a reverse adaptor is made specifically for this > purpose Yep, a genuine Pentax item: http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/macro/ Cheers, Boz - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: FA 100mm f=2.8 Macro and macro ring light: Questions
- Original Message - From: Cameron Hood Subject: FA 100mm f=2.8 Macro and macro ring light: Questions > I have an opportunity to buy these two items used at $540.00 cdn for the > lens, and $450.00 for the flash. Is this a good deal? I know the lens is > great, but how is this combination for macro? I already have two flashes, > plus the onboard PZ1-P flash. Will I get appreciably better pictures with > this? Also, I understand you can selectively turn off two of the four lights > in the flash for increased modelling and shadow control. Anyone with any > experience and/or examples? And there is also a reverse adapter available > for the flash so you can use it with reversed lenses, i.e. the FA*24mm f=2. > Anyone with any experience with this? I know that, for a while it was all > the rage to shoot portraits with this combination, also. We were seeing ads > in major magazines with the models with telltale doughnut highlights in > their eyes. Any info would be helpful before I go ahead with this. Here are a few things to look for, not knowing the exact specs of what you are looking at: Make sure the ringlight doesn't vignette the lens. If you have to use a step down ring, be suspicious. Switchable tubes is nice. Make sure the rig supports TTL flash. Macro flash without TTL requires higher math. I don't know if a reverse adaptor is made specifically for this purpose, but, the way I thought of to mount a lens in reverse, then put a ringlight onto it was to take the lens mount of a destroyed camera body (I have a sacrificial MX) and epoxy a threaded adaptor (the filter ring off a dead lens, for example) onto it. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re[2]: Digital doubts
gfen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I wonder if much of this fear of bad zip disks is releated to teh fact >that Iomega's OTHER cartridge media was the worst thing ever invented, the >Jaz drive. That and the fact that they had a HUGE batch of defective Zip *drives* at one time, making "Click of Death" a well-known catch phrase for a while. I bought my Zip drive around time of the defective batch but just got lucky - mine's been trouble-free for about 4 years so far. Same for the modular one my S.O. has for her G3 Powerbook and the built-in one in her desktop machine. -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Focusing screens or MZ-S
Hi I have a Z1-p golden section focusing screen. Would any of you know if it will fit my MZ-s and do I require any exposure compensation? Thank you - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
FA 100mm f=2.8 Macro and macro ring light: Questions
I have an opportunity to buy these two items used at $540.00 cdn for the lens, and $450.00 for the flash. Is this a good deal? I know the lens is great, but how is this combination for macro? I already have two flashes, plus the onboard PZ1-P flash. Will I get appreciably better pictures with this? Also, I understand you can selectively turn off two of the four lights in the flash for increased modelling and shadow control. Anyone with any experience and/or examples? And there is also a reverse adapter available for the flash so you can use it with reversed lenses, i.e. the FA*24mm f=2. Anyone with any experience with this? I know that, for a while it was all the rage to shoot portraits with this combination, also. We were seeing ads in major magazines with the models with telltale doughnut highlights in their eyes. Any info would be helpful before I go ahead with this. Thanks. C. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: manual lenses on autofocus body?
"Len Paris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Well, you see, I've read what Mark said about the A50 f/1.2 here >on the list a few other times. It supposedly has to do with a >difference in the lens contacts, or something. It's because the A50/1.2 actually *doesn't have* any minimum/maximum aperture contacts, just the single "A" (program/shutter-preferred) contact. So cameras can't tell the A50/1.2 from *any* K or M series lens. See the information on Boz's page at http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/extras/K-mount/Kaf.html >Perhaps the >PZ-1p is just different enough, compared to the ZX-5n, that it >doesn't have this problem. I wouldn't have thought so, though, >because the ZX-5n is a newer body than the PZ-1p. > >Anyway, I've never experienced any problems using the A50 f/1.2 >on my PZ-1p. Right. It just behaves as if you've mounted a K-series or M-series lens. -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: July PUG review from Cotty
Just for a second or two, I thought it could possibly be a skateboarder's area. Just for the second or two ;-) >Why, thank you, Cotty! That is indeed an undulating bench. :) > >> Riverside Solitude >> Amita Guha >> Very pleasing study of shape and form on a wooden walkway >> overlooking >> water at the East River (NY). The lighting has given the >> shot a real >> edge, providing a wonderful shadow that forms the mainstay >> of the picture >> which I take to be an undulating bench? Texture, form, >> composition all >> spot on. Really nice work from Amita. ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re[2]: Digital doubts
On Sun, 28 Jul 2002, Cotty wrote: > The Zips get used for things that change on a day-to-day basis such as > email files and Internet Explorer files. I back these up about once a > week and have never had a problem with any drive (we have > three) or disk. I did notice once that when I was transferring some files I wonder if much of this fear of bad zip disks is releated to teh fact that Iomega's OTHER cartridge media was the worst thing ever invented, the Jaz drive. I've never known anyone who's Jaz disks didn't randomly self destruct, not to mention cost way too much. But hey, anyone in the market for an external jaz drive and disks? :) -- http://www.infotainment.org "The destructive character is cheerful." - Walter Benjamin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: July PUG review from Cotty
Why, thank you, Cotty! That is indeed an undulating bench. :) > Riverside Solitude > Amita Guha > Very pleasing study of shape and form on a wooden walkway > overlooking > water at the East River (NY). The lighting has given the > shot a real > edge, providing a wonderful shadow that forms the mainstay > of the picture > which I take to be an undulating bench? Texture, form, > composition all > spot on. Really nice work from Amita. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
The Great PDML Print Off
Hey Folks, So far I only have 3 returns on the print off. Not wanting to rush art or anything, but.. Have fun Bill - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: July PUG review from Cotty
Thanks Cotty. You should see my 4x5 stuff if you like St. Ansel. Bill - Original Message - From: Cotty Subject: July PUG review from Cotty > > Rock, Water > William Robb > With a title like that, all that's need is the whisky :-) Now, I like > Ansel Adams, which means I like sharp monochrome landscapes with all the > materials that the Earth has to offer. William has fulfilled the criteria > nicely - those rocks look sharp enough to cut yourself on, the water soft > enough to soothe the wound. Consider yourself commended ;-) Excellent! - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re[2]: Digital doubts
OK, FWIW, I just put my negatives in a negative page, into the notebook and on the shelf. When I want a print I take the page or pages to the photofinisher and voila, I get prints made. This even worked for some 18 year old TriX Pan negatives stored in old PVC containing pages that were "lost". They turned up when my mom cleaned her garage (no heat, no air and a sometimes leaky roof). Got great prints from them. Digital is awfully convenient now but I think it lacks simple staying power (archival wise). I think digital is most attractive in its ability to complement (scan negatives) rather than replace film. Just my two cents worth. :-) Regards, Robert - Original Message - From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2002 3:25 AM Subject: Re: Re[2]: Digital doubts > >I do use CD-R for bulk generally non-critical data such as image or audio > >files, but I do ensure that for best integrity I accrue a full CD worth of > >files before I write and close the disc in a single session. If I feel the > >files deserve more security I write a second copy of the data on a different > >brand of media just to be sure :-) > > I use both Zip disks and CDR for backup, further backed up by paper . > > The Zips get used for things that change on a day-to-day basis such as > email files and Internet Explorer files. I back these up about once a > week and have never had a problem with any drive (we have > three) or disk. I did notice once that when I was transferring some files > from one computer to another that one file (a jpeg) had become > corrupted, but as a test, I reformatted the Zip, copied again and it was > fine. The Zips also get used as a little network. My printer is set up > with a desktop Mac, so if I want to print something from the PowerBook, > it goes across via Zip. One or two Zips get used several times a day, and > aside from the above, it's always worked. These Zip disks are over two > years old, and form a longevity test. > > The MacAds web site gets a full backup onto Zip after each change, which > is usually twice a week, as well as put onto CD twice a year (more later). > > For photographs stored digitally, I keep a folder that acts as a 'waiting > area' for pictures that have been scanned and optimised (and sometimes > printed). When this fills up to a certain level, the oldest go onto a CDR > in one go, one session. When the CDR is completed, it immediately gets > tested by opening the files, making sure the pics open okay. I store each > pic in native Photoshop format, seeing no reason to store compressed > images given that CDRs are so cheap. After each such session, the > original files on the Mac are deleted. > > It is my intention to re-copy each CD as it approaches 5 years of age, > keeping all copies. > > I thought about getting a larger drive on the desktop, but it didn't > strike me as a high priority. Also, I've got it working so well with the > current drive, the OS, the whole shebang is very stable and I have maybe > two crashes a year, and it's ALWAYS due to IE5 and a web session! (Blue > and White G3 400, 512Mb/6Gb) > > All important info, especially passwords, are recorded in a small > hardback notebook. This is probably the most invaluable of all. Ever log > onto a website and can't remember the password? Every day with me. That > little notebook shuffles in and out of its place on the shelf next to me > more than I would ever have thought. Also in there are all the silly > little settings and values for things like ISP diallup info, connection > info, TCP/IP info, helplines, etc etc. I saw a colleague do it some years > ago, and I remarked how simple and straightforward it was. > > Finally, about twice a year, the whole hard drive gets backed up onto > CDRs. This includes a stripped down version so that with one single CD, I > can get a freshly reformatted hard drive up and running (say in the event > of a catastrophic crash, or a new drive) with all my bits and bobs > appearing just how I like them, and relevant applications on call. [For > those on PC and who may not know, Macs are heavily customisable, and no > two are identical in terms of how they appear and work to the user. Some > are so heavily customised that sitting in front of one, it might take a > minute or two to find my way around!] If necessary, I could travel around > the world with a CD and two Zips, borrow a Mac, and carry on with MacAds > as if nothing had happened. > > Regarding the integrity or not of various back-up methods, I think the > only serious criteria for informing an individual's decision on what to > use tend to be personal experience and recommendation. I had heard a lot > about Zips and the 'clicks of death', but having used 4 different Zip > drives and dozens of disks since 1998, I have never come across it. The > point is, if it works, I suppose one keeps using it until it doesn't, > then one does some more research and eit
Re: AF zoom?
Artur, Not exactly right... Adaptor do exist to mount K mount lenses on screwmount bodies. I have one that is about 7.5mm thick, so you loose infinity focus. This is not a problem as it came with/on a bellows lens. It just puts a bit more extension on the bellows. Regards, Bob S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] quotes then adds: > I didn't think you could use an M42 body with K mount lenses this way, > only M42 lenses on a K mount body, so you are correct to say your > spotmatic camera is not usable with K mount lenses. Please correct me > if I am wrong. Damn! Youre right! I misunderstood what Jacek wrote... of course one cannot use K-mount lenses on m-42 bodies, as there is no such adapter. I don't know how, but I thought Jacek had written about the possibility to use just the reverse - m42 lenses on K-mount bodies. Sorry for confusing you all... >> - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: Next TOPDML/TOPUG ? (was: RE: Re: Update,Ontario Poster Order)
Hopefully i can have the posters by then Dave Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: AF zoom?
Artur Ledóchowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Frits J. Wüthrich wrote: > >> I didn't think you could use an M42 body with K mount lenses this way, >> only M42 lenses on a K mount body, so you are correct to say your >> spotmatic camera is not usable with K mount lenses. Please correct me >> if I am wrong. > >Damn! Youre right! I misunderstood what Jacek wrote... of course one cannot >use K-mount lenses on m-42 bodies, as there is no such adapter. Actually, there is such an adaptor. It takes up some space between the K lens and the screwmount body (and uses optical element(s) to compensate for this). I have no idea how good it is but at least one list member has bought one in the past. I think they're still available. -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: July PUG review from Cotty
In a message dated 7/28/2002 4:47:58 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > After the Fall > ERN Reed > Eleanor has done really well to capture this oft-seen, but rarely > recorded moment between parent and child. Most of us know what this feels > like, and to get the emotions onto film and provide a real taste of the > moment, a real atmosphere, is no easy task. I can't think how anyone > could better this - well done! My runner up this month. Good work. > Thank you so much for this, Cotty! ERNR My photographs hang on the virtual walls at http://members.aol.com/ernreed - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: AF zoom?
There is one ... http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1369531890 If you don't like that item (no information about the seller ...), I would be ready to sell mine for 100 â¬. It is in condition like new, because I prefer using my 24/2.0 or my 77/1.8 Regards Bernd ---original message-- Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 00:04:12 +0200 From: "Jacek Sokolowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re[2]: AF zoom? Saturday, July 27, 2002, 11:32:15 PM, Sylwester Pietrzyk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: SP> Welcome to PDML Jacek! We are growing, I mean PDMLers from Poland :-) well, nice to see you all here :-)) SP> Take Pentax SMC-FA 28-70/4 AL - you can find one on e-bay for about 100$. yeah, I keep looking - but it seems quite hard to find where I am (i. e. in Germany). Only new ones for about 230 euro. How about SMC Pentax-F 3,5-4,5/35-135 and Tamron AF 28-80/3,5-5,6 ASF or Sigma 28-105/ 3,8-5,6 UC III aspherical IF? best regards J - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Re[2]: Digital doubts
I currently back up incrementally by copying to an older Pentium system which otherwise acts as a file/print server. In addition, I use the MS briefcase feature in Windows to copy important stuff (eg source code) to my laptop, and this is really easy to do on a directory basis. It also has the advantage of allowing me to simply pick up the laptop and go in a morning when I'm going on-site. Otherwise, why not use the simple system of one floppy for each day of the week; on Friday night, you simply do a full backup to tape or a new CD of all your data (you don't need to back up the programs because you have legal copies of the original software - you do, don't you?). John Coyle Brisbane, Australia On Sunday, July 28, 2002 3:08 AM, Cameron Hood [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > What is the best system currently for backing up small amount of > business stuff frequently (i.e. everyday). My girlfriends office was > broken > into, they stole the computer, and the secretary had not backed up > anything > in over a month. They need to back up daily about 10 - 20 K (yes, K!) > of > data. It seems rather wasteful to use cd's, and zip diskd are so > notoriously > unreliable that I wouldn't recommend them to my worst enemy. Are > tape > drives still in use? Floppies? Taking pictures of each screen with a > K2 and > a supertak 50mm f1.2 onto Kodachrome 25? Any suggestions... > > > C > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
July PUG review from Cotty
A little late this month, so I'll wade straight in... Angels in America Richard Seaman A very simple image, virtually impossible to achieve! The two aircraft form almost perfect symmetry. Well done Richard. High Adrenalin Dan Mills This shot of the Lethal Weapon ride reminds me of a huge spider with a hundred people stuck to its belly. Interesting shapes. Schloss Chalottenburg Joseph Tainter Beautiful composition, worth the wait. Waterfall Marek Kronberg Very nice composition, pleasing image. Nice frame too ;-) Creels Facit A wonderful picture that I couldn't stop looking at. A dream-like quality, almost alien. Very atmospheric. The receding piles of netting remind me of a mountain landscape with tonal gradation. Absolutely love it! Boat at Old harbor Ed Keeney Another super shot. How many times have we photographed old wooden tubs sitting on the sand? How many turn out well? This lovely study of a marine environment confirms Ed's abilities. Well done. Excellent scan BTW. Sturgeon River Martin Mielke Well executed landscape of rushing water in a forest setting, all frozen white. It's easy to forget the extra resolve required to achieve shots like this. Martin has done well and produced a nice picture. View from Goulding's Annsan An archetypal image it may be, but that does not detract from the eye that was needed to get this beautiful shot of high plains buttes and dawn sky, with a really nice composition. A charming image, Ann. Thanks. Fall Patriotism Ray Ford Pleasing composition (with autumn tree, fence/wall, US flag) with stunning colour. Nice picture. Michigan Splendor Ken Waller I guess I'm a sucker for colourful trees. This has more: a nice abstract composition and excellent framing, well captured. Comet Ikeya-Zhang Antti-Pekka Virjonen Shots like this I assumed were always made with a camera bolted onto the end of a mountain-top telescope big enough to spot a Klingon's verrucas while he was on holiday enslaving a planet on the far side of the Delta Quadrant. The technical expertise that made this stunning shot humbles me, and I take my hat off (for there are many) to Antti-Pekka for achieving it. Awesome. Riverside Solitude Amita Guha Very pleasing study of shape and form on a wooden walkway overlooking water at the East River (NY). The lighting has given the shot a real edge, providing a wonderful shadow that forms the mainstay of the picture which I take to be an undulating bench? Texture, form, composition all spot on. Really nice work from Amita. Rock, Water William Robb With a title like that, all that's need is the whisky :-) Now, I like Ansel Adams, which means I like sharp monochrome landscapes with all the materials that the Earth has to offer. William has fulfilled the criteria nicely - those rocks look sharp enough to cut yourself on, the water soft enough to soothe the wound. Consider yourself commended ;-) Excellent! Old and New Gianfranco Can't remember a gallery where Gianfranco has failed to catch my attention. Here, he has used a landscape and performed a real tease. At first glimpse, a distant cityscape gives way to the hustle and bustle of an old Italian conurbation. But there's something that keeps getting in the way. What appears to be a foreground silhouette of a narrow church spire in fact turns out to be a main road, Roman of course, leading the eye straight toward the skyscrapers. Fascinating! Black Sky Over Paris Jaume Lahuerta Another fine landscape, this time with the world-famous Tour Eiffel as the centre-piece. Jaume has used Photoshop to great advantage, and produced a charming work that pleases. Superb. After the Fall ERN Reed Eleanor has done really well to capture this oft-seen, but rarely recorded moment between parent and child. Most of us know what this feels like, and to get the emotions onto film and provide a real taste of the moment, a real atmosphere, is no easy task. I can't think how anyone could better this - well done! My runner up this month. Good work. Gippos on Acid Abi Clarkson I had to look several times at this shot. The group of musicians are straight out of the wild west: a band of Irish immigrants perhaps, traversing their way across the wilderness in search of a new life. But what's this? One wields an electric guitar and sits next to a stack of amps and speakers big enough to please a crowd at the largest venue. Stark contrast in this monochrome image with unsettling elements deserve remark. Weird and disturbing. :-) Thanks. Tree Swallows Kathleen Leickly Kath, I only counted two? (GROAN) Full of vibrant energy - nice shot! Canna Lily Ray Allen Not one usually to stop and look at pics of flowers, this shot caught my eye. Wonderful pattern on the petals and Ray has used a very pleasing composition, with a dark background to accentuate the bloom, which has an interesting shape in itself. Charming shot. Tulip Duo Bill Gekas Stunning colour and composition. Can't stop looking at
Re: AF zoom?
- Original Message - From: "Frits J. Wüthrich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: AF zoom? > I didn't think you could use an M42 body with K mount lenses this way, > only M42 lenses on a K mount body, so you are correct to say your > spotmatic camera is not usable with K mount lenses. Please correct me > if I am wrong. Damn! Youre right! I misunderstood what Jacek wrote... of course one cannot use K-mount lenses on m-42 bodies, as there is no such adapter. I don't know how, but I thought Jacek had written about the possibility to use just the reverse - m42 lenses on K-mount bodies. Sorry for confusing you all... Greetz Artur - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Info on SMC 300/4?
Hello everyone, I recently purchased a Pentax SMC 300/4 in mint condition. Does anyone know how this lens compares to the M* 300/4 and the A* 300/4? What would be a suitable 2x converter for this lens? What is the current market value of this lens? Thanks. Eric - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Vs: New Toys
These images are made with Leica 1.0/50 mm Noctilux lens at full aperture. Vertigo-inducing? All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Bojidar Dimitrov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Päivä: 27. heinäkuuta 2002 9:14 Aihe: Re: New Toys >Hi Rob, > >> http://www.shinozuka-family.com/200110autumnlux2/kittyleaves4.jpg >> http://www.shinozuka-family.com/200110autumnlux2/tedkitleaves2.jpg > >This is absolutely amazing! I was expecting a slight curve, but >absolutely not such a steep parabola. Was that the 35 lens? > >Cheers, >Boz - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re[2]: Digital doubts
>I do use CD-R for bulk generally non-critical data such as image or audio >files, but I do ensure that for best integrity I accrue a full CD worth of >files before I write and close the disc in a single session. If I feel the >files deserve more security I write a second copy of the data on a different >brand of media just to be sure :-) I use both Zip disks and CDR for backup, further backed up by paper . The Zips get used for things that change on a day-to-day basis such as email files and Internet Explorer files. I back these up about once a week and have never had a problem with any drive (we have three) or disk. I did notice once that when I was transferring some files from one computer to another that one file (a jpeg) had become corrupted, but as a test, I reformatted the Zip, copied again and it was fine. The Zips also get used as a little network. My printer is set up with a desktop Mac, so if I want to print something from the PowerBook, it goes across via Zip. One or two Zips get used several times a day, and aside from the above, it's always worked. These Zip disks are over two years old, and form a longevity test. The MacAds web site gets a full backup onto Zip after each change, which is usually twice a week, as well as put onto CD twice a year (more later). For photographs stored digitally, I keep a folder that acts as a 'waiting area' for pictures that have been scanned and optimised (and sometimes printed). When this fills up to a certain level, the oldest go onto a CDR in one go, one session. When the CDR is completed, it immediately gets tested by opening the files, making sure the pics open okay. I store each pic in native Photoshop format, seeing no reason to store compressed images given that CDRs are so cheap. After each such session, the original files on the Mac are deleted. It is my intention to re-copy each CD as it approaches 5 years of age, keeping all copies. I thought about getting a larger drive on the desktop, but it didn't strike me as a high priority. Also, I've got it working so well with the current drive, the OS, the whole shebang is very stable and I have maybe two crashes a year, and it's ALWAYS due to IE5 and a web session! (Blue and White G3 400, 512Mb/6Gb) All important info, especially passwords, are recorded in a small hardback notebook. This is probably the most invaluable of all. Ever log onto a website and can't remember the password? Every day with me. That little notebook shuffles in and out of its place on the shelf next to me more than I would ever have thought. Also in there are all the silly little settings and values for things like ISP diallup info, connection info, TCP/IP info, helplines, etc etc. I saw a colleague do it some years ago, and I remarked how simple and straightforward it was. Finally, about twice a year, the whole hard drive gets backed up onto CDRs. This includes a stripped down version so that with one single CD, I can get a freshly reformatted hard drive up and running (say in the event of a catastrophic crash, or a new drive) with all my bits and bobs appearing just how I like them, and relevant applications on call. [For those on PC and who may not know, Macs are heavily customisable, and no two are identical in terms of how they appear and work to the user. Some are so heavily customised that sitting in front of one, it might take a minute or two to find my way around!] If necessary, I could travel around the world with a CD and two Zips, borrow a Mac, and carry on with MacAds as if nothing had happened. Regarding the integrity or not of various back-up methods, I think the only serious criteria for informing an individual's decision on what to use tend to be personal experience and recommendation. I had heard a lot about Zips and the 'clicks of death', but having used 4 different Zip drives and dozens of disks since 1998, I have never come across it. The point is, if it works, I suppose one keeps using it until it doesn't, then one does some more research and either carries on with the same method, or changes to another. Personally I have never been bothered by the seeming volatility of the various ways of storing data digitally, but then again, what do I know? I'm just a user . HTH Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
