Re: Re: Pentax posters
Hello! What kind of posters are they? Do you sell them? bye Katrin SorDario Bonazza 2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 18.10.2002, 09:10:06: I just wanted to let you know that I still have very few posters (20 to 25pcs) before they'll go out of stock. Cheers, Dario Bonazza http://www.dariobonazza.com
Re: Re: Pentax posters
Here is the link: http://digilander.libero.it/pentaxday/postere.htm Bye, Dario Bonazza http://www.dariobonazza.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 9:33 AM Subject: Re: Re: Pentax posters Hello! What kind of posters are they? Do you sell them? bye Katrin SorDario Bonazza 2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 18.10.2002, 09:10:06: I just wanted to let you know that I still have very few posters (20 to 25pcs) before they'll go out of stock. Cheers, Dario Bonazza http://www.dariobonazza.com
FS: K30/2.8
For Sale: K30 f2.8 US$160 which includes postage by airmail anywhere in the world. Excellent glass, excellent mechanicals, and mostly excellent finish EXCEPT for a ding on the top of the lens barrel which has damaged the filter ring, so filters will not mount. This may be fixable, but as I don't often use filters I haven't tried. There is a very slight amount of wear evident on the aperture ring. I've found one that is almost mint so this one has to go. Payment via PayPal would be fine, but I'm open to other suggestions. Queries offlist to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Paul Ewins Melbourne, Australia
Lens envy -we all get it, now cure it???
Here's a site some of you might not have seen before. No one needs it more than me. It's all about trying to cure that lens envy we all have. It has some excellent tips, good commentary about 50mm lens etc... http://people.smu.edu/rmonagha/bronlensenvy.html Check it out vic http://hometown.aol.ca/Pentxuser/myhomepage/artgallery.html
OT: K120/2.8 (Was: Lens envy -we all get it, now cure it???)
Hello Vic, I just visited your page - nice pics! - and noticed that that have a 120/2.8 on your equipment-list.. How good is it, over all and in comparison with your 85 and 100 lenses? It haven't seen it on german ebay this year though I would like to know whether it is worth a hunt. I have the impression that many of the K-lenses are a little better in performance than the M-lenses ... Regards Bernd - original Nachricht Here's a site some of you might not have seen before. No one needs it more than me. It's all about trying to cure that lens envy we all have. It has some excellent tips, good commentary about 50mm lens etc... a href='http://people.smu.edu/rmonagha/bronlensenvy.html' target='_blank'uhttp://people.smu.edu/rmonagha/bronlensenvy.html/u/a Check it out vic a href='http://hometown.aol.ca/Pentxuser/myhomepage/artgallery.html' target='_blank'uhttp://hometown.aol.ca/Pentxuser/myhomepage/artgallery.html/u/a --- original Nachricht Ende -- Werden Sie Millionaer - im freenet.de Lottokiosk, rund um die Uhr geoeffnet. http://lottokiosk.freenet.de/?flx013lotto=54
List Appreciation
Gang, Last call for those who would like to join in showing Doug our appreciation for all his work on maintaining the list including this last major round of crashes. Please let me know if you would like to help show your appreciation. Thanks, Bruce
RE: Pentax annonces digital SLR
-Original Message- From: Brad Dobo [mailto:brad.dobo;rogers.com] Question: What if Pentax does come out with the DSLR that is currently being talked about, how many people on the list would buy one? (Assuming the price is what? ~$2000US) Me for one! BTW, the price quoted on imaging resource is $1600US. It's obvious then that it would not be a real feature rich camera. Not like the top Nikons or Canons, or the unfortunate MZ-D. That's not obvious to me? Plus the top Nikons and Canons are $6000ish, and would the MZ-D have been. The lower end (D30, D60 for example) are based on consumer models and are said to have very much second rate AF for a start. I think, bearing in mind the price and the mention to using a smaller sensor enabling a smaller body, that this will not use the MZ-D body. I have always suspected that the MZ-6 was launched to provide the basis for a consumer dSLR. It addresses the main faults in the MZ-7 et al by giving autobracketing and spotmetering, plus DOF preview. It would be highly unlikely that a DSLR be based on the ageing MZ-5 body, so a new one was needed and these features would be demanded on the new camera. Yessir, I see the MZ-6D on the way. This would be much smaller and lighter, not to mention cheaper than the proposed MZ-D, and would fill a market even when a bigger full frame version is later launched. Also, once they enter the market, then a year later a full-frame kick-butt one comes out? If I wanted a Pentax DSLR (which I don't :)), I would pass on what they seem to be offering and what I've read here (Hey, at $2000US it is worse in Canada and that's some serious money still), and wait another year for a superior? product. See above - the year later superior? Product would be bigger, heavier and much more expensive. I personally might buy the first model, and then just sit tight until the ultimate model is released which fits my purposes better. I ideally want a body exactly the same as the MZ-S, but with a 'swivellable' screen on the back and a full frame sensor. The MZ-D I would possibly have bought out of sheer madness and irresistable stupidity as it is way bigger than I would ultimately like. I don't even use the BG-10. I doubt if even the second Pentax DSLR will fit my bill, so I will probably jum on with the initial 'cheapie' and wait till things settle, probably in 3(or possibly 2)-5 years time. Another one: Would be it useful to professionals or more a toy for the serious-hobbist? Both. One more (I think): I don't understand the megapixel difference. Unless you are in the business of making huge posters or want something you can use in your house instead of wallpaper :) does a 3.3mp do the job? As the D30 showed, 3MP CAN be enough, but is not ideal. 6MP seems to be sufficient for most, although you really need the 11MP jobbies to truly challenge film. Will it keep going up? How high? A ISO6400 colour print with the grain of a Velvia or Provia 100 F? This is one area where digital is currently poor - high ISO noise is far worse than film, such that most wont let you go past 800-1000, some wont even go above 400. does the sensor size matter? APS, full-frame, etc? I've read some of the posts on this and you guys are just way over my head in this area, lots of scientific stuff. (ok, sorry, that was a bunch of questions in one) Quite simple really, a smaller sensor means that all of your lenses become longer eg by a factor of 1.5. Thus your 24mm wide angle becomes a 36mm which is no good for me. Therefore you have to buy super wide angles like Sigma's 14mm to get a 20. I am glad I have a 17-35mm zoom! That will give me a 24ish with the new APS size sensor. Of course this is actually GOOD at the long end - a 300mm becomes a 450mm which is excellent for motorsports or wildlife etc. This is why it is 'long lens' photography ratehr than landscapes etc which has really adopted digital as the norm. Other factors are that because you are effectively enlarging the central portion of the 'image', the lens resolution is not fully used. It is like blowing up the central portion of a film image.
Re: Wedding Photography
My daughter is getting married in Nov 2003 so I took her and her fiance to talk to the photographer. She's asking $1500 for 20 rolls of 36 including proofs and the negatives. This was for 50/50 color BW. She found this photographer through a chat group for Chicago-area brides. At 11:24 PM 10/17/2002 -0400, you wrote: #1 son is preparing for a July wedding. The bride has no sense of money. How much should you pay? What should you get for that amount? Any suggestions on approaches you like, you use? Any good online portfolios to review? Gary J Sibio [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~garysibio/ What if squirrels are really the first line in an attack by extraterrestrials and our dogs are trying to warn us???
Re: I bought a new lens today
I've had one for a while and, as long as you watch out for flare, it produces some very nice results. Be careful of on thing: the front of the lens tends to unscrew a bit on mine. I just make a point of checking it from time to time and tightening it up as needed. At 04:42 PM 10/17/2002 -0400, you wrote: From Dave Chang-Sang, who changes systems about as often as most people change their underwear g. Got a Vivitar 3.8 19mm. Not the sexiest wide angle to be sure, but I've seen some shots that Dave's taken with it, and it seems it will be a capable performer. Gary J Sibio [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~garysibio/ What if squirrels are really the first line in an attack by extraterrestrials and our dogs are trying to warn us???
Re: Help Needed - Problem with Very Underexposed Slides
wendy beard a écrit: Hi Kathy, I'm afraid that I can't shed any light on your problem, but I've had the opposite experience. On Sunday, I loaded some Kodak 160VC print film in my MZ-S and I just happened to notice that it picked 100 as the setting when it loaded. I saw this happen with my other MZ-S too a couple of months ago so I think it may have had something to do with that particular film canister not being recognized properly rather than the camera itself. Wendy From: Kathy L [EMAIL PROTECTED] I got back 4 rolls of film from a trip, and most of them were very underexposed (surprisingly, a few were fine though). My camera is a PZ-1p. I had this problem once before, when the ISO apparently didn't reset automatically from a 400 speed film to a 100. See the DX code on: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/krg/Photo/dx.htm 160 Iso code is pin 3,5,6 at ground 100 Iso code is pin 3,5 only Try to clean pin 6 ? Michel
Re: Test, but please read and respond off list.
- Original Message - From: ukasz Kacperczyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 7:11 PM Subject: RE: Test, but please read and respond off list. I didn't know that I was the cause of so much trouble :) Never received such an attachment myself (despite those from Brad which I deleted immediately for my anti-virus software is down temporarily and I don't want to take risks). I assure you that I send no viruses :) The last one was quite unintention. I wanted to reply to a list of people, so I highlighed them in my email program, hit reply or reply all (cannot remember) and wrote the message and pressed send. Those emails all ended up as attachments that I realized only after it appeared on the board. (I should have known however, stupid me) However Luke, you should do that in all cases of attachments if you are not sure about them, delete 'em. I do. Regards, Brad Dobo
Re: Reality Checks Part 3
Nope, I get them too. Lots of quoted matter but nothing else. I can't explain it :) Brad Dobo - Original Message - From: Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 8:53 PM Subject: Re: Reality Checks Part 3 Often I get messages that are all - Original Message - and no new content. Anyone else? What do they mean? Regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: Feroze Kistan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 18 October 2002 6:23 AM Subject: Re: Reality Checks Part 3 - Original Message - From: Brad Dobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 12:05 AM Subject: Re: Reality Checks Part 3 Ya see, that's the (etc.)
Re: Want to play?
Hi Glen, The only problem is, generally a group will pick one side. Look at mine for instance. I'll make up a number, say 100 threads with my case. Did I write 100? No. I wrote 50 one in response to another PDMLers email. These others that some speak of 'Not caring' are the very same people that perpetuate the thread. Am I to blame? Yes, but so are the other 50 people or so that responded to me. I think we all know why moderated lists exist eh? :) Regards, Brad Dobo I have stayed completely quiet on this until now. But I feel compelled to speak up. Look This should have all stopped with Brad's apology. We all know that at one time or another we have probably said something that was out of line. Brad, I did not like what you said. But I accepted your apology believing that it was sincere and that was it. In the future let's let our little slipups be dropped with a timely and sincere apology and be done with it. Brad, Anthony, Bob and all the others that are still beating up this dead horse. WE DON'T CARE. Take it offline, call each other, send telegrams or carrier pigeons, whatever. But please leave all this clutter off the PDML. We are all about photography and Pentax, not personal issues that cause dissention and only serve the needs of those who are indulging themselves. I, unlike some others read, almost every email so as not to miss some tidbit of valuable information that might help make me a better photographer or more knowledgeable about Pentax equipment. We shouldn't have to take our valuable time to build filters and sort through email. Please just drop this thread and let's get on with discussing photography. I have really enjoyed the PDML having just got back into it again after a short hiatus and find it valuable to a budding semi-pro like myself. My questions are answered thoughtfully and politely and my opinions are valued. This is how things should be in my humble opinion. Glen O'Neal
RE: OT, non-Pentax related, delete if offended, etc. etc.
Chris, Many congratulations. Get some sleep while you can and take lots of photos, because you will be amazed at how quickly he will grow. Malcolm From: Chris Niesmertelny Just too proud to keep it in, I'm the father of a wonderful baby boy.
Re: Pentax annonces digital SLR
Hey Rob (and others that responded to my email (thanks), - Original Message - From: Rob Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 12:27 PM Subject: RE: Pentax annonces digital SLR Me for one! BTW, the price quoted on imaging resource is $1600US. I personally might buy the first model, and then just sit tight until the ultimate model is released which fits my purposes better. I ideally want a body exactly the same as the MZ-S, but with a 'swivellable' screen on the back and a full frame sensor. The MZ-D I would possibly have bought out of sheer madness and irresistable stupidity as it is way bigger than I would ultimately like. I don't even use the BG-10. I doubt if even the second Pentax DSLR will fit my bill, so I will probably jum on with the initial 'cheapie' and wait till things settle, probably in 3(or possibly 2)-5 years time. Wow, you seem to have a lot of money! When you upgrade can you give the older one to me? :-) I cannot afford one DSLR (and personally don't need one) but I would be excited by it! I have some money I want to put towards either the FA 20-35mm or a manual focus fixed telephoto 300 ~ 500mm, but am afraid these along with what I have will not be compatible with a future DSLR. Will it keep going up? How high? A ISO6400 colour print with the grain of a Velvia or Provia 100 F? This is one area where digital is currently poor - high ISO noise is far worse than film, such that most wont let you go past 800-1000, some wont even go above 400. That is unfortunate, I quite often use 3200 b/w pushed to 6400. How does that affect the really slow films? Like the (old?) Kodachrome 25, 64, Fugi Velvia 50, etc? Or is the problem only in the higher end? So excuse my ignorance, but what exactly do you mean by 'noise'? I know in my Optio manual that they say I will have more noise if I set it at ISO 200. Does noise refer to (for lack of a better word) c**p in your photos or is it an audible sound? I cannot tell on my Optio the difference between 100 and 200 (the only choices). does the sensor size matter? APS, full-frame, etc? I've read some of the posts on this and you guys are just way over my head in this area, lots of scientific stuff. (ok, sorry, that was a bunch of questions in one) Quite simple really, a smaller sensor means that all of your lenses become longer eg by a factor of 1.5. Thus your 24mm wide angle becomes a 36mm which is no good for me. Therefore you have to buy super wide angles like Sigma's 14mm to get a 20. I am glad I have a 17-35mm zoom! That will give me a 24ish with the new APS size sensor. Of course this is actually GOOD at the long end - a 300mm becomes a 450mm which is excellent for motorsports or wildlife etc. This is why it is 'long lens' photography ratehr than landscapes etc which has really adopted digital as the norm. Thank You! Finally, I realize what the fuss is about. I thought, geez, what does size matter? (don't read anything into that :)), but I can see how important that is really is. I think then that I will do anything serious with my existing equipment until it becomes expensive or a hassle to shoot film. I'd hope by that time there would be a really nice DSLR for me to use. Regards, Brad Dobo
My recent photography class! DSLR and On-topic! :)
Hey folks, Well, tonight had my class again. Very simple about lenses and flash. However, I asked my instructor if he's heard anything about a Pentax DSLR, and he said, actaully yes, just yesterday, he heard (from, I don't know) that Pentax had one basically ready to go, but is now been held up by a case/body problem. Apparently it's too heavy the the body is too light. Also, while saying he's a Nikon guy, he gives full credit to Pentax for their optics. He places them just below Carl Zeiss lenses. I thought that was cool. I was able to dazzle a quiet and very new class with my knowledge...as you all know it is expansive! :) He's the type of instructor that relys heavily on asking questions to present the information. Excellent techinque. Being a quiet class he'll often look over to me for unanswered questions (I don't try to be a geek or monopolize class time) and today I was flawless :) Before my head gets any bigger I'll stop. :) Regards, Brad Dobo
Re: Pentax posters
I just wanted to let you know that I still have very few posters (20 to 25pcs) before they'll go out of stock. Cheers, Dario Bonazza http://www.dariobonazza.com
Pentax Price List - the winner
Hi gang, ...and the winner is. fanfare Chris Brogdenwith .1988. Had it confirmed by Pentax UK. So now you know, and those hours spent tossing and turning in the middle of the night are finally over... Regards, Cot PS - Chris, you want the spoils? A piece of paper??? Address pleas off list if you do! Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at http://www.macads.co.uk/ Oh, swipe me! He paints with light! http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps
Re: List Appreciation
I'd be happy to help with this effort. Paul Stenquist Bruce Dayton wrote: Gang, Last call for those who would like to join in showing Doug our appreciation for all his work on maintaining the list including this last major round of crashes. Please let me know if you would like to help show your appreciation. Thanks, Bruce
Re: FS: K30/2.8
For Sale: K30 f2.8 Just wanted to say that IMHO this really is an excellent lens. Very light and rugged, focus is very pleasing, and the optics are awesome. It has so little distortion for a lens that wide. And it is plenty sharp, and pretty usable wide open. I've also found that BW shots with sun directly on frame render quite nicely : the negative is not over-burned and you can get some nice detail around the sun easily. And flare resitance is nice. This is by far my most used lens during trips since I bought it. It has became one of my favourite pentax lenses. I've found one that is almost mint so this one has to go. Lucky you, they are hard to find, and it is even hardest in mint condition !
Re: I bought a new lens today
Hi Gary, Thanks for the tips. I figure flare is something to watch out for on most wide angles, with that big (for a prime) front element. And, now that you mention it, I went to check the front of the lens. It wasn't loose, but it unscrewed rather easily. I'll keep my eye on that in the future. thanks again, frank Gary J Sibio wrote: I've had one for a while and, as long as you watch out for flare, it produces some very nice results. Be careful of on thing: the front of the lens tends to unscrew a bit on mine. I just make a point of checking it from time to time and tightening it up as needed. -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer
Re: List Appreciation
Me too! Me too! :) Brad Dobo - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 2:27 AM Subject: Re: List Appreciation I'd be happy to help with this effort. Paul Stenquist Bruce Dayton wrote: Gang, Last call for those who would like to join in showing Doug our appreciation for all his work on maintaining the list including this last major round of crashes. Please let me know if you would like to help show your appreciation. Thanks, Bruce
Wish lens Poll - COMPLETED, please no more votes
Hello PDML, the votes for the Primes that we wish Pentax had built-Poll are coming in so slowly that I concluded, that the poll was already completed by collecting all proposals. I thus declare the poll completed. Please do not send more votes for this poll. The table containing the collected proposals for Primes that we wish Pentax had built can be seen at http://www.physnet.uni-hamburg.de/hp/stark/wishlenspoll.htm I have changed the content of the table back to what the contributing members of the PDML originally wrote they wished, disregarding whether those wishes were realistic or not. Also I added my own wish: A FA151/f2 Limited. Thanks again to all who contributed. Next will be a poll on 3rd party prime lenses for k-mount, starting later today. Greetings from Hamburg, Arnold
Re: My MV just died - For free Thursdays?
I've had a few offers trickle in overnight. It's gone to an Old Pentax Bodies Retirement Home in Dave Letterman's home town. It'll be with others of his kind. It should be happy now... regards, frank frank theriault wrote: Shutter won't fire. Meter lights still come on, but the film advance lever won't advance, and the shutter won't fire. No biggie, since I only paid around $20 for it, and really got it so I could use the M 2.0 50mm on the MX (I had no k-mount lens at the time). Never really liked it, but used it once in a while for snapshots and the like. I want to eventually get either another MX or an LX anyway... Anyone want it for a parts body, a fixer-upper or a cheap rear lens cap? Oh yeah, it's missing the rewind knob. Contact me off list - first response gets it for the postage only! regards, frank -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer
RE: List News
I have been here since the 8th. Last weekend was my high school reunion. I tend to leave the setting up of a gathering to those local. I make myself available to the gatherings, it has worked well for the MD-DC get togethers and the San Antonio one. I have not heard from anyone from area. I already had plans to get with Annsan. I am going to be getting together for lunch with her and Amita today. I will be working in Baltimore from the 21st through the afternoon of the 25th. I fly south the 27th. The 26th is out as we are celebrating my parents? anniversary. That?s where I stand for now, Cesar -Original Message- From: gfen [mailto:gfen;infotainment.org] Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 8:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: List News On Wed, 16 Oct 2002, Cesar Matamoros II wrote: Plans are to go to Manhattan tomorrow. Photos will be part of the plan. How long you in the city for, and what ever happened to another attempt at an NYC PDML gathering?
FS: Pentax stuff in UK
Hi, http://www.pentaxuser.co.uk/pages/classifieds.htm Some _very_ cheap gear on sale here. [for the UK 8-)] mike
Re: My recent photography class! DSLR and On-topic! :)
Hi, Brad, He's probably a lurker on this list, and heard it first from Pal. :-) -frank Brad Dobo wrote: ... I asked my instructor if he's heard anything about a Pentax DSLR, and he said, actaully yes, just yesterday, he heard (from, I don't know) that Pentax had one basically ready to go, but is now been held up by a case/body problem. Apparently it's too heavy the the body is too light. -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer
Re: I bought a new lens today
You get something,I break something.There is no justiceg Hope you enjoy it. Dave Got a Vivitar 3.8 19mm. Not the sexiest wide angle to be sure, but I've seen some shots that Dave's taken with it, and it seems it will be a capable performer. regards, frank -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer
Re: Lens envy -we all get it, now cure it???
Interesting, and while I may agree with some of his conclusions, beware that many of his statistics are apparently 30 years old! Like the table showing what percentage of photo contest winners use 50mm lenses, from a 1973 book. I would guess that those figures have changed just a tad over the years, since it's now impossible to buy a 35mm slr with a standard 40mm to 50mm prime. I would also dispute his table on cost per roll with various focal lengths (he doesn't give credit for that one, so I don't know how old it is). Geez, I just bought a 19mm yesterday for less than 1/10th what he claims they're worth. Even new, you can go ultra-wide for not much over $150US if you're willing to go third party. His table was obviously taken from a time when lenses wider than 21mm were considered exotica, both in terms of rarity and price. That ain't the case today... About 6 months ago, someone posted an article here (with a similar title) that was ~really~ interesting. It was more about why you should learn photography with a 'normal' focal lenth prime, not in terms of price per photo or anything like that, but in terms of sharpness (as compared to consumer grade zooms), and how working with a prime can help composition skills. I recall that stimulated a wonderful zooms are bad; primes are good debate. Haven't seen one of those for a while g. Anyone recall that article, and where it might be found? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a site some of you might not have seen before. No one needs it more than me. It's all about trying to cure that lens envy we all have. It has some excellent tips, good commentary about 50mm lens etc... http://people.smu.edu/rmonagha/bronlensenvy.html Check it out vic http://hometown.aol.ca/Pentxuser/myhomepage/artgallery.html -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer
Re: Pentax posters
Thanks Chris.I was going to do a follow up email as i had heard from Pat White but not your self.Glad it arrived.Big enough tube eh:) I recently mailed Pentxuser(Vic)his poster,just waiting for one other. Dave Not sure if I've said this or not yet, but my Pentax posters arrived a week or so ago, wonderfully packed by David Brooks. Thanks again to David for coordinating the shipment, and to Dario for everything he's done. The poster rocks! chris
Re: Pentax posters
Hi Vic.Yes i received your money and i mailed it out to you Oct 15.Should be your way very soon.It took about a week and a bit to get to the others sofar. Dave David have not seen the posters. want to make sure you got my money. Vic
Re: List Appreciation
It's funny how this is going on the same week as my local public radio station is running their pledge drive ... Just an observation. Cory Waters - Original Message - From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 1:27 AM Subject: List Appreciation Gang, Last call for those who would like to join in showing Doug our appreciation for all his work on maintaining the list including this last major round of crashes. Please let me know if you would like to help show your appreciation. Thanks, Bruce
Poll: 3rd party prime lenses for k-mount
Hello PDML, yes, another prime lenses for k-mount poll. Only, this time, they are not to be from Pentax. I ask you to please write to me ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) or to the PDML: What lenses (existing in k-mount) from other manufacturers than Pentax would you buy, if you only could find and pay them (or if you would not own them already)? Please respond to this email before Monday, October 21st, 2002. Thanks in advance for contributing! And greetings from cloudy Hamburg, Arnold
Re: Cross Processing
Yes, they print the same way, except the xprocessed slides, now negs, doesn't have a color base, they are transparent instead of yellow-brown of C41 negative, and also lacks bar code info, not allowing full auto printing, needing manual procedures. You'll not have problems with the kind of lab you are using (the same kind I'm using here) Regards Albano --- Feroze Kistan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's 3 labs I use one is pro only, and they will do what ever you ask, one serves both pro consumer and one is consumer only. All 3 are owned by full time professional photographers and wont refuse any request even if you just want to see what would happen if you tried this Are slide trannies printed out the same way as negs? Feroze - Original Message - From: Albano Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 9:57 PM Subject: Re: Cross Processing high saturated colors, like Fuji Velvia or Kodak E100VS, or Kodak Elite chrome Extra Color. Simply meter as accurate as possible, or bracket. Then throw it at the lab and ask for get it C41 processed. Sometimes they make you sign a form authorizing it, because it could be considered destroying your pics if you want regular processing. Also, have in mind that possibilities at printing stage are endless, so it´s possible to receive very varying results when you print enlargements. Sometimes they filter colour, sometimes not, sometimes they make them clearer or darker. I suggest you to ask them for NOt filtering and saturated dense colors. = Albano Garcia El Pibe Asahi __ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos More http://faith.yahoo.com
Re: I bought a new lens today
no fair!!! my widest is still 28mm :-( --- frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From Dave Chang-Sang, who changes systems about as often as most people change their underwear g. Got a Vivitar 3.8 19mm. Not the sexiest wide angle to be sure, but I've seen some shots that Dave's taken with it, and it seems it will be a capable performer. Up to now, the widest I have is the 24-48 Series 1, and I'm still learning how to use that. This should be fun! I love new toys! vbg regards, frank -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
Re: Pentax posters
I had responded to an earlier message (a month or so ago?) about poster availability, by saying I was interested and I wanted the exact amount needed and an address where I could send my money. I never received a response. If there is still a poster available, I'd like to repeat my request. All I need is now much, and to whom do I send it? Thanks, keith whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Vic.Yes i received your money and i mailed it out to you Oct 15.Should be your way very soon.It took about a week and a bit to get to the others sofar. Dave David have not seen the posters. want to make sure you got my money. Vic
RE: The flagship is coming!
No one seriously argues about the build quality of the MZ-S. The only thing left is more feautres, most of which will require a bigger camera. Even build quality issues such as stronger motor, weather sealing, better shutter, etc. will still increase wieght and probably size. I just don't see any way for Pentax to make a flagship better than the MZ-S without making it significanlty larger/heavier. I also think that those that want something better than the MZ-S would be willling to accept a heavier camera. Just my opinion. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Pentax annonces digital SLR
On Thu, 17 Oct 2002, Feroze Kistan wrote: Cool, now all I gotta do is spray paint everything black. Why didn't someone tell me sooner :) It'll raise the resale value, too.. This is my special limited edition MZ-50 ALL BLACK PRO MODEL! MINTY LK! You'll have the ebay'rs in droves...
Re: Re: Pentax announces digital SLR
Even Minolta offers a few low-end models in addition to their Maxxum 5, 7 and 9. Chris Brogden Yes, but Minolta has been clarifying their line lately. I think the Maxxum 9, Maxxum 7, and Maxxum 5 made a lot of sense as a trio of film cameras to remain for a while: one super-pro spec, the other a high feature for the money midrange camera, and the third a very inexpensive (though well specified) beginner. Most of the others are older hold-overs that don't quite fit in. Adding the Maxxum 4 didn't make a whole lot of sense to me, though - it's so close to the 5. Canon I think is going to do something similar. The Rebel Ti is going to cover a lot of the lower-end ground. Then they will probably end up with three more bodies. Pentax has way too many too similar lower/mid-lower film bodies. They should end up with an MZ-6 as the beginner, the MZ-S as the midrange, a retro LXAF/MZ-1 as a high-margin niche product, and then the film flagship which could be something very highly specified. I agree with Mustardamus that the new flagship logically might resemble certain aspects of the PZ-1p, though it probably won't look like it or have the degree of features/dollar (-nothing does!). I can't imagine it would be quite as monstrous as an EOS-1v (this isn't Pentax's style), though I wouldn't mind something almost that big to pair with large FA* glass. Something in between the Maxxum 7 and 9 in size, in feature content, and in retro vs. high tech might fit the bill. Paal's prediction of a cross between the F100 and Maxxum 7 is perhaps the most likely in the end (not just because it is coming from Paal). Rob _ Get a speedy connection with MSN Broadband. Join now! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp
Re: Oh, 645! revisited: 645x67.
On Thu, 17 Oct 2002, [iso-8859-1] Pål Jensen wrote: Apart from the obvious differences there is the DOF issue. Less DOF at the same image size. I can personally see that the 67 could be a Actually, that's a thought that never occured to me.. and the fact that I'm driven to have teh shallowest DOF I can find for most things.. Well, hey. problem for my shooting style. Also, I personally believe that 645 is history. No doubt that another digital format standard is emerging with the 6X4,5 format). I'm not convinced the 6X7 will. I have no intentions of moving to a digital solution in the near future. I have no desire to. While I do all my post-work on a computer now, its only because I have no money or time to try and set up a dark room now, and my last efforts were curtailed.
RE: Pentax price list - but what was the year?
I am certain its 1988! -Original Message- From: Cotty [mailto:cottycam;mac.com] Sent: 15 October 2002 18:56 To: Pentax List Subject: Pentax price list - but what was the year? Okay, here's a great little game for you while war rages in the background g. My SO was (*finally*) sorting out her mess, er room, today, and came across a fairly comprehensive Pentax price list. There is no date on it - so, like countless 'What Was The Year' hours on music radio around the world, by looking at the price list (at the URL below), What Was The Year? Hint: the list is reproduced in full, 2 sides of an A4 sheet,and (presumably) contains all the gear that was available at the time of printing. Note no MX, and the only autofocus cameras were the SFXn and SF7... Have a look: http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/misc/pricelist.html Seriously, I don't know the answer - I'm curious. Cheers Cotty Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at http://www.macads.co.uk/ Oh, swipe me! He paints with light! http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps
Re: Pentax posters
Dario, you still online? Response please? keith whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Keith. I don't remember your post, sorry, but i was acting as Mid Canada distributor for about a dozen folks, pdmlers and nonPdmlers. All mine are spoken for. Give Dario a buzz, sounds like he has 20 or so left. Also Andre, of the list, acted as Canada East distributor, he may have some still. Dave I had responded to an earlier message (a month or so ago?) about poster availability, by saying I was interested and I wanted the exact amount needed and an address where I could send my money. I never received a response. If there is still a poster available, I'd like to repeat my request. All I need is now much, and to whom do I send it? Thanks, keith whaley = snipped =
Re: I bought a new lens today
Hi, Brendan, Maybe I'll let you put my lens on your body at the next topdml (which I think should be next weekend, btw)... -frank Brendan wrote: no fair!!! my widest is still 28mm :-( -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer
Re: Pentax posters
I think we should do next weekend. -frank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh Mr Brooks.. when oh when are we doing another Toronto PDML meet/discuss/geek/gawk/photo thingee so that the others in the area can get their grubby hands/mits/paws/meathooks on said posters :-) Inquiring minds want to know :) -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer
Re: My recent photography class! DSLR and On-topic! :)
On Fri, 18 Oct 2002, Brad Dobo wrote: Also, while saying he's a Nikon guy, he gives full credit to Pentax for their optics. He places them just below Carl Zeiss lenses. I thought that was cool. I know there's a link between Zeiss's multicoating and Pentax's SMC, but I am unsure of it.
Re: Wish lens Poll - COMPLETED, please no more votes
On Fri, 18 Oct 2002, Arnold Stark wrote: Next will be a poll on 3rd party prime lenses for k-mount, starting later today. You keep this up, and Albano is gonna fight you for the rights to be official poller for the PDML...
Re: Pentax annonces digital SLR
I just wonder if they're going to cut the manual focus camera from their lineup, which to me seems silly considering Pentax's place as a student camera. That'd not be aproblem if the bottom end autofocus had a decent focussing screen.
Re: OT-Favourite medieval kings-was: Want to play?
I always fancied Ethelred the Unready. frank theriault wrote: Personally, I like Pepin the Short. I think he had a cool name. g regards, frank Bob Blakely wrote: He was King of the Danes and elected King of Norway. He proved to be a stern king and failed to keep his promises. The people eventually turned on the regency of King Knut. You may like him. As you can see, I've noted his darker side. Regards, Bob... --- Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy - Benjamin Franklin From: Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Re: King Knut - deleted] -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:djm;stanleypmlaw.com Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:dmatyola;yahoo.com Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://geocities.com/dmatyola/ Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399
Re: Pentax posters
Keith. The email address i have for Dario is: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dave Dario, you still online? Response please? keith whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Keith. I don't remember your post, sorry, but i was acting as Mid Canada distributor for about a dozen folks, pdmlers and nonPdmlers. All mine are spoken for. Give Dario a buzz, sounds like he has 20 or so left. Also Andre, of the list, acted as Canada East distributor, he may have some still. Dave I had responded to an earlier message (a month or so ago?) about poster availability, by saying I was interested and I wanted the exact amount needed and an address where I could send my money. I never received a response. If there is still a poster available, I'd like to repeat my request. All I need is now much, and to whom do I send it? Thanks, keith whaley = snipped =
Re: Vastly OT-Favourite medieval kings
frank theriault wrote: Hey, Lukasz, I ~am~ being serious. I like Pepin the Short. And it's because he has a cool name. [...] Frank, I can't remotely understand where this thread came from* but here in Italy Pipino, the translation of your Pepin, is too similar to the common nickname used by small male children for their, well, attribute, to be taken very seriously, much less thought as cool... ;-). Ciao, Flavio *: Well, maybe he used a K1000...
Re: Pentax posters
Hummm les see. Busy this Saturday.Helping sister move stuff next Saturday.The 2nd of Nov is good so far,unless a Sunday is good for people.I think Sundays are bad for most of us IIRC. (Sister lives close to you i think David,could bring it Oct 26 when i move her furniture) Dave Oh Mr Brooks.. when oh when are we doing another Toronto PDML meet/discuss/geek/gawk/photo thingee so that the others in the area can get their grubby hands/mits/paws/meathooks on said posters :-) Inquiring minds want to know :) Dave mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .
Re: I bought a new lens today
I'm supposed to move a piece of furniture Oct 26 but i could move that date to the 27th. Dave Hi, Brendan, Maybe I'll let you put my lens on your body at the next topdml (which I think should be next weekend, btw)... -frank
Re: Cross Processing
Albano, Feroze and anyone interested. Cross processing the other way (negs in E6) makes no sense. I did this (in error) and since the result is a positive on a negative base you have everything more or less orange coloured. Nothing to write home about, IMO. BTW, I don't think there's a way to get rid of the base this way. HTH, Flavio
Re: List Appreciation
I'll help. I almost went into withdrawal when the list went to digest mode. - Original Message - From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 12:27 AM Subject: List Appreciation Gang, Last call for those who would like to join in showing Doug our appreciation for all his work on maintaining the list including this last major round of crashes. Please let me know if you would like to help show your appreciation. Thanks, Bruce
Re: I bought a new lens today
about time we finally get a Tpdml again going. --- frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Brendan, Maybe I'll let you put my lens on your body at the next topdml (which I think should be next weekend, btw)... -frank Brendan wrote: no fair!!! my widest is still 28mm :-( -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
RE: Oh, 645! revisited: 645x67.
On Thu, 17 Oct 2002, tom wrote: Negs aren't very interesting to look at. Make some prints. Agreed, but I did scan them in, which is how I do most everything (no enlarger, so I'll proof through the scanner, then send it off to teh lab for enlargments). I shot several rolls through a 67II last summer. If I were to to show you the 8x10's, you couldn't tell them from 8x10's printed from 645 negs. This seems to be common consensous. You won't see any difference at that size. You might see some at 16x20. Which is OK, because as I've said, if I'm intending to get something of that magnitude, I'll pack out the 4x5. If its right place, right time, sheer luck, I guess it'd be more likely I have the 645, not the 67.. When I goto take pictures, its usually planned. When I just go out somewhere with my girl, I take a camera anyway.. I guess in situations liek that, I'd be more likely to pack the 645 and a trio of lenses than the 67 and a trio of lenses. I was wondering the same thing last year: would 6x7 noticably improve my prints? I shot the 67, and found that it wouldn't (99% of my prints are 11x14 or smaller). So, the feeling I'm getting is to just stick with 645, and my intial feelings were right: The extra conviences to be found it in outweigh the benefits, especially since I plan on making it the normal camera I take with me somewhere that I can find photogenic subjects, but photography isn't my primary concern for going (ie, off to teh museum or teh zoo or whatever). Yeah, 645 is probably overkill there, too, but if you're going to do it, you may as well do it big. :) (this is easy to say as I'm trying to force myself to be a primes-only person, and to buy a set of 20/50/135 for my 35mm set; and I presume in 645 it'll be 45/75/150. I also found the thing to be too damned big and bulky. I don't know if I would have as much of a problem with that, as I'm a pretty big guy, and I'm not sure if it would phase me as much..
RE: Pentax annonces digital SLR
Rob Brigham wrote: A sensible choice, but constant exposure to digital 'enablement' may make the move irresistable before it becomes sensible!! I know that's the case with me. One of the reasons I bought the MZ-S was that I thought I would have a digital body with the same interface to add much later. Now it seems the camera I wanted probably wont come in that form, which is a bummer, but also I cant wait anymore - scanning can be such a time waster! It is really the addition of a film scanner which has pushed me towards a digital body - scanning takes soo damn long and I always have a backlog I want to do! That's precisely it! I thought I'd be well set up by adding a film scanner and that's all I'd need for the foreseable future. Well, I'm fed up with it already. I just can't be bothered sitting down and scanning negs all night. It didn't take me long before I just got the film scanned to CD at the shop, which is fine for putting stuff up on the web and mailing to people. A lot of the agility photos I do, I want to share with people, so they go straight up on the web. Most people only want a 4x6 reprint off it anyway. --- Wendy Beard Ontario K2K 2X1, Canada
Re: Oh, 645! revisited: 645x67.
On Thu, 17 Oct 2002, William Robb wrote: The flash sync issue is pretty much a non starter for me anyway. There is only a stop difference between the 6x7 and 645 shutters. Neither body is especially good for outdoor fill I can handhold 1/60 75mm with the 645 (at least, I believe I can), however, there's no way I could handhold 1/30 105mm with the 67. For me, the camera issues are motorized advance (nice feature on the 645), the viewfinder (nice feature on the 6x7), and how the camera handles. There are times I can forsee not having a waist level will be mildly detrimential, but overall, I never wanted to use my YM124G because it only had a WL. if the Bronica glass is that inferior to the newer Pentax glass. Bronica lenses are made by Nikon, are they not?
Re: OT-Favourite medieval kings-was: Want to play?
King Clancey Dave I always fancied Ethelred the Unready. frank theriault wrote: Personally, I like Pepin the Short. I think he had a cool name. g regards, frank Bob Blakely wrote: He was King of the Danes and elected King of Norway. He proved to be a stern king and failed to keep his promises. The people eventually turned on the regency of King Knut. You may like him. As you can see, I've noted his darker side. Regards, Bob... --- Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy - Benjamin Franklin From: Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Re: King Knut - deleted] -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:djm;stanleypmlaw.com Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:dmatyola;yahoo.com Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://geocities.com/dmatyola/ Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399
Re: My recent photography class! DSLR and On-topic! :)
On 18 Oct 2002 at 5:38, Brad Dobo wrote: Also, while saying he's a Nikon guy, he gives full credit to Pentax for their optics. He places them just below Carl Zeiss lenses. I thought that was cool. Then he obviously hasn't owned Pentax and CZ lenses concurrently :-) Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html
Re: Pentax annonces digital SLR
By then it probably wont be worth much so I would likely keep it as a backup and for long shots where the focal multiplier is useful(of course if the resolution of the full frame version I replace it with is high enough, I could just crop/zoom that rather than rely on a smaller sensor). Yes, I probably do have too much money - the big problem is getting the expense past the missus 8-) Heh...the missus, I don't have to worry about that for a while :) A sensible choice, but constant exposure to digital 'enablement' may make the move irresistable before it becomes sensible!! I know that's the case with me. One of the reasons I bought the MZ-S was that I thought I would have a digital body with the same interface to add much later. Yes, sensible, for now You are right however, I'm bad with money and if I have it (money) and Pentax has it (the DSLR) then I would no doubt spend it :) I saw the pictures of the MZ-D after I bought the MZ-S, and didn't even know about the MZ-D in fact. But wow, that MZ-D looked oh so very nice. BD
RE: Pentax annonces digital SLR
On 18 Oct 2002 at 12:28, Rob Brigham wrote: To get lower ISO, I guess they need to actually reduce the sensitivity of the sensors as the shutter is going to be open longer and they don't want to 'burn out' the sensors - I don't know if they do this by sampling (eg 100ISO = 1second shutter, 200ISO = 2 second shutter but the sensor takes 2 images in this time and averages them down?) or by reducing the current or something? I don't think low ISO is so much a quality issue as much as a fundamental technical problem. I think that you'll find that the lowest ISO of the sensor is it's optimum sensitivity, at that point the noise is lowest and the saturation is highest. As the effective ISO is increased above this optimum you end up with a higher level of noise and earlier clipping of the brightest areas. So really unless there is a way to dynamically manage the sensitivity (saturation) of the actual sensors (not the signal amplifiers) I expect that as the sensitivities increase we'll have to resort to ND filters to peel back the effective ISO. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html
Re: OT-Favourite medieval kings-was: Want to play?
I've got his autograph! Brad King Clancey Dave I always fancied Ethelred the Unready. frank theriault wrote: Personally, I like Pepin the Short. I think he had a cool name. g regards, frank Bob Blakely wrote: He was King of the Danes and elected King of Norway. He proved to be a stern king and failed to keep his promises. The people eventually turned on the regency of King Knut. You may like him. As you can see, I've noted his darker side. Regards, Bob... --- Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy - Benjamin Franklin From: Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Re: King Knut - deleted] -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:djm;stanleypmlaw.com Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:dmatyola;yahoo.com Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://geocities.com/dmatyola/ Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399
Re: My recent photography class! DSLR and On-topic! :)
On 18 Oct 2002 at 5:38, Brad Dobo wrote: Also, while saying he's a Nikon guy, he gives full credit to Pentax for their optics. He places them just below Carl Zeiss lenses. I thought that was cool. Then he obviously hasn't owned Pentax and CZ lenses concurrently :-) No, he doesn't own a Pentax. Has a Contax however. I like him, uses Nikon F3-F5 and a Nikon Digital in the studio (and everywhere else) but he actually tries to steer customers to the Pentax. Unless they have advertizolitus and insist it must be Nikon or Canon :) BD Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html
Re: Wish lens Poll - COMPLETED, please no more votes
gfen schrieb: Next will be a poll on 3rd party prime lenses for k-mount, starting later today. You keep this up, and Albano is gonna fight you for the rights to be official poller for the PDML... I really miss Albano's updates. And if there is such a title as an Official Poller for the PDML, I am not eager to have it. Actually, this 3rd party poll was not my idea but a suggestion from others After this poll, I would like to do polls on Pentax and 3rd party zoom lenses like I did on prime lenses, and then I will be happy to put an end to this work (it really is real work). Hopefully, you find the results of this polls as interesting as I do. Arnold
RE: Oh, 645! revisited: 645x67.
-Original Message- From: gfen [mailto:gfen;infotainment.org] On Thu, 17 Oct 2002, William Robb wrote: The flash sync issue is pretty much a non starter for me anyway. There is only a stop difference between the 6x7 and 645 shutters. Neither body is especially good for outdoor fill I can handhold 1/60 75mm with the 645 (at least, I believe I can), however, there's no way I could handhold 1/30 105mm with the 67. You probably could. If the flash is the main source of illumination, and I'm not too far from my subject, I often shoot at 1/15. Backgrounds blur a bit, but the flash freezes the subjects. It's a neat effect, gives a dynamic impression. tv
RE: Oh, 645! revisited: 645x67.
On Fri, 18 Oct 2002, tom wrote: You probably could. If the flash is the main source of illumination, and I'm not too far from my subject, I often shoot at 1/15. Backgrounds blur a bit, but the flash freezes the subjects. It's a neat effect, gives a dynamic impression. You know, I never understood flash at all because I never needed to, and my sole experience I had with flash in the past was an anchient all manual vivitar affair. Then I went out and bought the AF280T and realized just how easy it could be (although, there are questions I could pose if I were thinking clearly), but I've become kinda enamoured of the slower-than-sync shooting with the trails..
Re: Wish lens Poll - COMPLETED, please no more votes
Hopefully, you find the results of this polls as interesting as I do. they may also be useful to Pentax Corp. (I hope)
Pentax FA 80-320mm zoom DISCONTINUED
I just got this email from BH about a lens I was asking about. Could it be true that they are discontinuing the FA 80-320mm and what implications does this have in relation to the newest revelations in Pentax (possible) product line changes? Dear Customer Thank you for your inquiry. We would like to inform you that the Pentax - PE8032045FA REG - 80-320mm F4.0-5.6 Lens you previously registered for notification has been discontinued and will no longer be available from BH. We look forward to your next visit to our site. Please feel free to let us know if there's any other way we may assist you. Thank you, The BH Web Team www.bhphotovideo.com 420 Ninth Avenue New York, NY 10001, USA 800-606-6969 212-444-6615 _
Re: Pentax FA 80-320mm zoom DISCONTINUED
on 18.10.02 17:00, Glen O'Neal at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just got this email from BH about a lens I was asking about. Could it be true that they are discontinuing the FA 80-320mm and what implications does this have in relation to the newest revelations in Pentax (possible) product line changes? Yes that's true. We should expect soon successor with USM and IS :-P -- Best Regards Sylwek
Re: Pentax FA 80-320mm zoom DISCONTINUED
I just got this email from BH about a lens I was asking about. Could it be true that they are discontinuing the FA 80-320mm and what implications does this have in relation to the newest revelations in Pentax (possible) product line changes? Not sure on possible product line changes but if they had to cut a zoom like that they should discontinue the FA 100-300mm, not the 80-320mm
Re: Pentax posters
Dario, Dave Brooks and all. I just got my posters in the mail this morning. They are outstanding, Nice work Dario, Very professional. These things are huge. They will be going to the Price Club to be mounted on a board and proudly diplayed in my photographic rooms. I would recommend buying these up before it gets too late... Vic
Re[2]: Oh, 645! revisited: 645x67.
gfen, When I scan MF vs. 35mm - to really see a good difference, you need to make a very large scan. Then you'll see the detail difference. I'm using an Epson 2450 so I scan the MF at 2400 and the 35mm at 2400. Then you'll see the difference. Just shoot some chromes and compare them on a light table with a loupe. You'll see it there, too. HTH, Bruce Friday, October 18, 2002, 7:02:19 AM, you wrote: g On Thu, 17 Oct 2002, tom wrote: Negs aren't very interesting to look at. Make some prints. g Agreed, but I did scan them in, which is how I do most everything (no g enlarger, so I'll proof through the scanner, then send it off to teh lab g for enlargments).
Re: Pentax annonces digital SLR
On Fri, 18 Oct 2002, Tim S Kemp wrote: That'd not be aproblem if the bottom end autofocus had a decent focussing screen. Is that the screen or the finder mag/pentamirror that causes the bigger issues?
Re: FS: K30/2.8
A friend of mine damaged the filter ring on his 70-210 Tamron F2.8 zoom. Tamron wanted a fortune to fix it so he took it to a machinist who fixed it for, I think, 20 bucks. Vic In a message dated 10/18/02 2:58:53 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For Sale: K30 f2.8 US$160 which includes postage by airmail anywhere in the world. Excellent glass, excellent mechanicals, and mostly excellent finish EXCEPT for a ding on the top of the lens barrel which has damaged the filter ring, so filters will not mount. This may be fixable, but as I don't often use filters I haven't tried. There is a very slight amount of wear evident on the aperture ring.
RE: Pentax FA 80-320mm zoom DISCONTINUED
I agree. The 80-320mm is a sharper lens and as a greater range of focal lengths IMHO. -Original Message- From: Brad Dobo [mailto:brad.dobo;rogers.com] Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 10:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pentax FA 80-320mm zoom DISCONTINUED I just got this email from BH about a lens I was asking about. Could it be true that they are discontinuing the FA 80-320mm and what implications does this have in relation to the newest revelations in Pentax (possible) product line changes? Not sure on possible product line changes but if they had to cut a zoom like that they should discontinue the FA 100-300mm, not the 80-320mm
Re[2]: Oh, 645! revisited: 645x67.
gfen, It's not the handholding that's the problem. It's that there is too much light outdoors for shooting at 1/60 or 1/30. Generally you might be wanting to shoot at 1/125 to 1/500 and have some control of DOF. Nothing looks worse than a nice outdoor portrait shot at F22 - all the distracting background elements are nice and clear. That is why the leaf shutter is so important - it lets you still control the DOF that you desire. It is amazing how bright it is outside. Many times you are trying to knock shadows out when the sun is really strong. Bruce Friday, October 18, 2002, 7:08:07 AM, you wrote: g On Thu, 17 Oct 2002, William Robb wrote: The flash sync issue is pretty much a non starter for me anyway. There is only a stop difference between the 6x7 and 645 shutters. Neither body is especially good for outdoor fill g I can handhold 1/60 75mm with the 645 (at least, I believe I can), g however, there's no way I could handhold 1/30 105mm with the 67. For me, the camera issues are motorized advance (nice feature on the 645), the viewfinder (nice feature on the 6x7), and how the camera handles. g There are times I can forsee not having a waist level will be mildly g detrimential, but overall, I never wanted to use my YM124G because it only g had a WL. if the Bronica glass is that inferior to the newer Pentax glass. g Bronica lenses are made by Nikon, are they not?
Re: List Appreciation
Count me in...too Vic http://hometown.aol.ca/Pentxuser/myhomepage/artgallery.html In a message dated 10/18/02 5:28:34 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bruce Dayton wrote: Gang, Last call for those who would like to join in showing Doug our appreciation for all his work on maintaining the list including this last major round of crashes. Please let me know if you would like to help show your appreciation. Thanks, Bruce
Re[2]: Pentax annonces digital SLR
I was somewhat disappointed that my friend's Nikon D100 had a minimum ISO setting of 200. That is faster than I normally shoot and would have to pull out ND's more often than I do now. I tend to shoot 50-100 speed for non-people and 160 for people. I'm hoping the Pentax DSLR will have a lower ISO setting than the D100. Bruce Friday, October 18, 2002, 7:23:45 AM, you wrote: RS I think that you'll find that the lowest ISO of the sensor is it's optimum RS sensitivity, at that point the noise is lowest and the saturation is highest. RS As the effective ISO is increased above this optimum you end up with a higher RS level of noise and earlier clipping of the brightest areas. So really unless RS there is a way to dynamically manage the sensitivity (saturation) of the actual RS sensors (not the signal amplifiers) I expect that as the sensitivities increase RS we'll have to resort to ND filters to peel back the effective ISO. RS Cheers, RS Rob Studdert RS HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA RS Tel +61-2-9554-4110 RS UTC(GMT) +10 Hours RS [EMAIL PROTECTED] RS http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html
Re: Poll: 3rd party prime lenses for k-mount
All Tokina ATX 80-200, 2.8 either manual or autofocus 20-35, 3.5-4 (the older one with the yellow ring (I had it and sold it and lived to regret it.) ATX 300 2.8 either manual or autofocus Vic
WTB SMC 135mm f/2.5
Has anyone got one of these that they would like to offload? I am willing to pay a fair price for it. -Scott
Re: The flagship is coming!
I agree, The MZ-S is all anyone ever needs. Anything bigger, bulkier with more features is, IMHO, just overkill. Vic In a message dated 10/18/02 7:41:04 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No one seriously argues about the build quality of the MZ-S. The only thing left is more feautres, most of which will require a bigger camera. Even build quality issues such as stronger motor, weather sealing, better shutter, etc. will still increase wieght and probably size. I just don't see any way for Pentax to make a flagship better than the MZ-S without making it significanlty larger/heavier. I also think that those that want something better than the MZ-S would be willling to accept a heavier camera. Just my opinion.
Re: Lens envy -we all get it, now cure it???
Vic, I just visited your website. Pics are awesome, composition,subject matter, etc. It's good to see quality like this. What film do you use most? I know you use superior equipment and are a great photographer. Regards, Robert ___ GO.com Mail Get Your Free, Private E-mail at http://mail.go.com
Re: Lens envy -we all get it, now cure it???
No question. I agree fully with what you are saying. The information is certainly dated. But it's still interesting. And heck, a lot of us are using dated cameras. Vic PS. I remember the thread primes vs zooms. The damn thing made me go out and buy more primes. Does it ever end? Vic In a message dated 10/18/02 6:46:05 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Interesting, and while I may agree with some of his conclusions, beware that many of his statistics are apparently 30 years old! Like the table showing what percentage of photo contest winners use 50mm lenses, from a 1973 book. I would guess that those figures have changed just a tad over the years, since it's now impossible to buy a 35mm slr with a standard 40mm to 50mm prime. I would also dispute his table on cost per roll with various focal lengths (he doesn't give credit for that one, so I don't know how old it is). Geez, I just bought a 19mm yesterday for less than 1/10th what he claims they're worth. Even new, you can go ultra-wide for not much over $150US if you're willing to go third party. His table was obviously taken from a time when lenses wider than 21mm were considered exotica, both in terms of rarity and price. That ain't the case today... About 6 months ago, someone posted an article here (with a similar title) that was ~really~ interesting. It was more about why you should learn photography with a 'normal' focal lenth prime, not in terms of price per photo or anything like that, but in terms of sharpness (as compared to consumer grade zooms), and how working with a prime can help composition skills. I recall that stimulated a wonderful zooms are bad; primes are good debate. Haven't seen one of those for a while g. Anyone recall that article, and where it might be found?
Re: Poll: 3rd party prime lenses for k-mount
Arnold Stark a écrit: Hello PDML, yes, another prime lenses for k-mount poll. Only, this time, they are not to be from Pentax. I ask you to please write to me ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) or to the PDML: What lenses (existing in k-mount) from other manufacturers than Pentax would you buy, if you only could find and pay them (or if you would not own them already)? Please respond to this email before Monday, October 21st, 2002. Thanks in advance for contributing! And greetings from cloudy Hamburg, Arnold Sigma: - zoom f:2.8/70-200 Apo EX - converter 2x EX Michel http://perso.wanadoo.fr/krg/
Re: Poll: 3rd party prime lenses for k-mount
Lenses I own: 300mm F4 AF Sigma APO Macro 105mm F2.5 Vivitar Series 1 Macro One that I want: 800mm F5.6 AF Sigma APO Christian
Thoughts on a film flagship
Realistically Pentax's immanent film flagship may be it's last high-end film camera. It seems it might go more in the high-tech direction (PZ-1p, Maxxum 7) or, alternatively, in the lower tech - an LX w/ AF sort of thing. Or could it, like the Maxxum 9 and to some extent the MZ-s, hit both points simultaneously: traditional interface, appeal to traditionalists, but high-tech and highly specified? Maybe a bulkier MZ-S (including right hand buldge) with limited finish, faster shutter and drive motor, AF spot beam projector ... which would be like a somewhat scaled down Maxxum 9? What do you all think? Do you think it will go in one direction or the other? Which would you prefer? _ Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp
Re: Pentax annonces digital SLR
Chris wrote: For the record, the replacement for the MZ-5n is already in the works, and will possibly be announced in the spring. It's not really a replacement, as far as I understand, in that it will be different in design, but I hear it's unique in itself, which sounds promising. Really? I was of the impression that the MZ-M, MZ-3, and MZ-5n were going to be deleted without replacements. After all, as I uderstand it, Pentax will have a three model film slr line-up in the future. What does this replacement mean? Is it going to be in vaguely the same price range as the MZ-5n or is this a camera that is going to be released into the line-up at the expense of the MZ-5n (discontinued)? This is an important distinction because if there are going to be an MZ-5n replacement there won't be a flagship or even an MZ-S in the future! (as I understand the vague information I have received). Pål
RE (3): Poll: 3rd party prime lenses for k-mount
My choice: The lens used in the most top-secret US spy satellites (and I'll take the digital camera part too) g [Brad Dobo] My choice is any third party lens that will fit my recreational proctoscope. RSW _ Unlimited Internet access for only $21.95/month. Try MSN! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp
Shade for 31 limited?
I was just admiring Rob's 31mm ltd on the Pentax portrait page http://www.nrg666.com/pdml/portraits/ Does anyone know if the lens shade can be used on, let's say the 30mm/2.8.. What's the filter size? Vic
RE: Pentax 1.7x AF Adapter
I think that it is a pretty good tele-extender, although I never compared it to an expensive 7 element one. It one of the better ways to get an 85mm AF portrait lens (with a 50mm). The elements move to provide the AF capability, so it only works over a particular distance range that varies with the particular lens being used. BR -Original Message- From: Michael Cross [mailto:mcross;ncen.org] I am particularly interested in the image quaility loss and autofocus performance. Thanks! Michael Cross
Re: pdml problems
Robert, I suspect that only those who don't use the standard mail option can experience problems. My recent experience of being put on the digest made me realize just how UN-interactive that mode is. I would never want to experience a list like that again. Reading something over a web interface with topics all arranged changes the flavor very much. It is great for someone just starting to try and catch up a bit, but takes away the spontaneity of this list. I for one, am very pleased with it's general operation and am thankful to Doug for taking his time to keep it running smooth. Bruce Friday, October 18, 2002, 9:03:12 AM, you wrote: RSW I'd consider joining appreciation efforts when the list can operate RSW consistently for more than a day or two. The webite is always going down or RSW is hopelessly out of date. The digest is constantly failing. I know the RSW list person is donating his time - so I appear as the bad guy, looking a RSW gift horse in the mouth - but what about migrating to yahoo groups or RSW something? Or what about finding another server altogether? All the RSW computer geek know-how on the list and this is the least consistent list of RSW 22 that I subscribe to... RSW Bruce Dayton wrote: Gang, Last call for those who would like to join in showing Doug our appreciation for all his work on maintaining the list including this last major round of crashes. Please let me know if you would like to help show your appreciation. Thanks, Bruce RSW _ RSW Broadband? Dial-up? Get reliable MSN Internet Access. RSW http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp
RE: Wedding Photography
Where's the wedding taking place? How big is it? What's the date? Does she want traditional or PJ? tv -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Rfsindg;aol.com] Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 11:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Wedding Photography #1 son is preparing for a July wedding. The bride has no sense of money. How much should you pay? What should you get for that amount? Any suggestions on approaches you like, you use? Any good online portfolios to review? Regards, Bob S.
Re (2): Thoughts on a film flagship
Why am I increasing aware that I got suckered when purchasing my MZ-S? [Brad Dobo] You didn't get suckered - the MZ-S is a beautiful camera. But perhaps you are alluding to the fact that it may not be a long-term flagship but, rather, as some of us have speculated, a kind of stop-gap camera needed to fill a very large hole in the line-up. But think of it this way: in the above sense, you were less suckered than anyone who has bought a digital camera to date, which is a lot of people. RSW _ Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp
RE: Shade for 31 limited?
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Pentxuser;aol.com] Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 12:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Shade for 31 limited? I was just admiring Rob's 31mm ltd on the Pentax portrait page http://www.nrg666.com/pdml/portraits/ Does anyone know if the lens shade can be used on, let's say the 30mm/2.8.. What's the filter size? It's not removable. tv
Re: Pentax 1.7x AF Adapter
Does it work with F/FA lenses or only with manual focus lenses? Rubenstein, Bruce M (Bruce) wrote: I think that it is a pretty good tele-extender, although I never compared it to an expensive 7 element one. It one of the better ways to get an 85mm AF portrait lens (with a 50mm). The elements move to provide the AF capability, so it only works over a particular distance range that varies with the particular lens being used. BR -Original Message- From: Michael Cross [mailto:mcross;ncen.org] I am particularly interested in the image quaility loss and autofocus performance. Thanks! Michael Cross
RE: Pentax 1.7x AF Adapter
It will work the same way: as a tele-extender with a limited AF distance range. (I don't think that the AF drive shaft passes through the adapter. BR -Original Message- From: Michael Cross [mailto:mcross;ncen.org] Does it work with F/FA lenses or only with manual focus lenses?
RE: Re[2]: Oh, 645! revisited: 645x67.
I have no LS lenses (yet) so Here is a mildly slick trick for this type of situation if you have no LF lens. Put the subject in as much shade as is possible (use reflectors or whatever) with a really bright background. Use anything to block available light from the subject. Set you shutter on the fastest sync speed possible. Expose for the subjects face (use handheld meter if possible) and let the background blow out overexposed. You will probably lose enough contrast in the background to lose some (hopefully most) of those details. If you can get a little hair light from behind that subject that will make it nice. Takes on the feel of a high key portrait done in the studio if it comes out right. My 2 cents Glen O'Neal -Original Message- From: Bruce Dayton [mailto:bkdayton;rcsis.com] Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 10:34 AM To: gfen Subject: Re[2]: Oh, 645! revisited: 645x67. gfen, It's not the handholding that's the problem. It's that there is too much light outdoors for shooting at 1/60 or 1/30. Generally you might be wanting to shoot at 1/125 to 1/500 and have some control of DOF. Nothing looks worse than a nice outdoor portrait shot at F22 - all the distracting background elements are nice and clear. That is why the leaf shutter is so important - it lets you still control the DOF that you desire. It is amazing how bright it is outside. Many times you are trying to knock shadows out when the sun is really strong. Bruce Friday, October 18, 2002, 7:08:07 AM, you wrote: g On Thu, 17 Oct 2002, William Robb wrote: The flash sync issue is pretty much a non starter for me anyway. There is only a stop difference between the 6x7 and 645 shutters. Neither body is especially good for outdoor fill g I can handhold 1/60 75mm with the 645 (at least, I believe I can), g however, there's no way I could handhold 1/30 105mm with the 67. For me, the camera issues are motorized advance (nice feature on the 645), the viewfinder (nice feature on the 6x7), and how the camera handles. g There are times I can forsee not having a waist level will be mildly g detrimential, but overall, I never wanted to use my YM124G because it only g had a WL. if the Bronica glass is that inferior to the newer Pentax glass. g Bronica lenses are made by Nikon, are they not?
Re: Shade for 31 limited?
Damn Vic In a message dated 10/18/02 11:46:41 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was just admiring Rob's 31mm ltd on the Pentax portrait page http://www.nrg666.com/pdml/portraits/ Does anyone know if the lens shade can be used on, let's say the 30mm/2.8.. What's the filter size? It's not removable. tv
Re: RE (3): Poll: 3rd party prime lenses for k-mount
- Original Message - My choice is any third party lens that will fit my recreational proctoscope. RSW You know where you can stick that _ Unlimited Internet access for only $21.95/month. Try MSN! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp
