Re: *ist D photos
On 27 Feb 2003 at 0:26, Mike Johnston wrote: Don't count on ISO 50 - if this is the same chip as the D100 slowest ISO is 200. But I believe it does go to 1600. That's not chip-dependent, that's circuitry-dependent, I'm pretty sure. It's both, the chip has inherent noise as do the amplifiers and analogue to digital convertors. The combination of sensitivity, noise performance and saturation of these primary system elements control the minimum ISO, the maximum acceptable ISO and the dynamic range of the system. Post digitisation processing can mask inherent physical constraints but doesn't eliminate them. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html
Re: And it's HERE!
Dan Scott a écrit: On Wednesday, February 26, 2003, at 10:26 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Flash sync to slow at 1/150,damn.Nice to see it takes just about any Pentax lens though. Dave Brooks Perhaps it goes higher with the last flash Pentax released. The something 360? probably or certainly ! But on the AF360FGZ, no coverage scale for APS format (35, 645 and 67 only); so new flash or upgrade ? Michel
Re: Silver MZ-S
Dnia 26-02-2003 o godz. 19:39 Bruce Dayton napisa(a): GLM http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ViewItemitem=2914463658category=15240 Yuck! I second that! For me - awfull... Maciej Konkurs Europa Moich Marze. Wygraj wyjazd do Brukseli, indeks wyszej uczelni lub zestaw komputerowy! http://www.konkurs.org.pl
Re: *ist D photos
Alan, That is only useful if you can preview the shot. Because of the SLR nature - the mirror/prism in the way, you can't preview the shot. None of the existing DSLR's have a swing LCD - no benefit except to break easier. Bruce Thursday, February 27, 2003, 12:19:10 AM, you wrote: AC Where's the swing LCD? Isn't it useful? AC regards, AC Alan Chan AC _ AC MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* AC http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
Re: strange button on *ist-D (IS?)
On 27 Feb 2003 at 0:23, Alan Chan wrote: Perhaps for uploading pictures through USB. Press it once and it will upload everything to the PC. I guess: press it once and a white balance offset will be set that will be applied to subsequent captured images. Welcome to the world of direct digital image capture. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html
are phtot.net anti pentax???
how long ago was the *ist announced and still no show on their site now the *ist D is announced and again a no show h
Re: *ist D photos
I want one. This is just what I wanted: a DSLR which can take my macro lens without requiring a mortgage to do so. Cheers, - Dave http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/
RE: *ist D photos
Comrades! http://www.digitalcamera.jp/html/HotNews/image/2003-02/27/ist-D-1L.jpg http://www.digitalcamera.jp/html/HotNews/image/2003-02/27/ist-D-2L.jpg Wow! Ken Well aren't they just something else. You have just made my day, must get going to work! Ziggy
RE: Been lurking far too long
Well, I saw the Starship Enterprise coming up on the starboard bow, so here I am. Very glad that I waited, nearly gave up in December, as you say very interesting times ahead. Ziggy -Original Message- Hi Ziggy, You picked a right moment to de-cloak! I guess I was in the same situation as you last summer, but I didn't want to wait. I have no regrets - who knows, in a year or two, I ight move back. Interesting times, eh? Welcome to the list ;-) Cotty
VS1 90-180mm results of first shoot
subjective comments very sharp, great bokeh almost 3d in appearance. very useful range-the zooming macro is great for flowers and native plants. also good for lizards and frogs in aquariums (larger ones lol)
my tamron 400mm f4 just looks so much better
i got this one for a cool $1500 Australia a couple of days ago. the first means it is now a 600m f4 or 1020mm f7,5 with the af 1.7 convertor mmm i am so happy BTW sharper pictures than the pentax fa 300mm 4.5 but ever so heavy
RE: *ist D photos
LOL Alan! Well, what do you expect - the anticipation got the better of us for a while there... -Original Message- From: Alan Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 February 2003 08:19 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: *ist D photos Where's the swing LCD? Isn't it useful? regards, Alan Chan _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
RE: *ist D competitor - Canon EOS 10D
I think price coule be the real key here. The 10D is a significant (that is an understatement) step up from the D60 and may well be the start of a new market segment between the current two tiers that we have been used to. The question in my mind is what Canon's second body will have, and at what price. I still suspect a lower end version than the D60, or maybe just the 10D without the magnesium body? Now I really want to know what the body on the *ist D is made of - it truly looks magnesium to me! -Original Message- From: Lawrence Kwan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 February 2003 05:18 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: *ist D competitor - Canon EOS 10D Canon has announced EOS 10D. Why should we care? I presume this would be *ist D main competitor. And I am sure Pentax would pay particular attention to the price; and they have some time to tweak the features between now and July. Highlights: - 6.3 Megapixels CMOS sensor (15.1 x 22.7mm) - Magnesium Alloy Body - 7-Point Autofocus - 3 frames per second drive speed in 9-frame bursts - extended ISO range of 100-3200 - White Balance Bracketing mode - selectable color space options including Adobe RGB and sRGB - 5.9 x 4.2 x 3.0 inches and weighs 27.9 oz - available mid-March vs *ist D's 5 x 3.7 x 2.3 inches and 18oz price -- --Lawrence Kwan--SMS Info Service/Ringtone Convertor--PGP:finger/www-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.vex.net/~lawrence/ -Key ID:0x6D23F3C4--
Re: How big you can print a 6 MP image?
Interpolation, either by the camera, computer or printer (can printers interpolate images on their own?), can add more data to the file so it can be printed larger, but quality starts to drop off then. I'd say that this is indiscernable using modern inkjet printers. Cotty Oh, swipe me! He paints with light! http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/ Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at http://www.macads.co.uk/
RE: *ist D photos
more pics at http://www.dpreview.com/news/0302/03022602pentaxistd.asp Ramesh -Original Message- From: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 3:33 AM To: Alan Chan Subject: Re: *ist D photos Alan, That is only useful if you can preview the shot. Because of the SLR nature - the mirror/prism in the way, you can't preview the shot. None of the existing DSLR's have a swing LCD - no benefit except to break easier. Bruce Thursday, February 27, 2003, 12:19:10 AM, you wrote: AC Where's the swing LCD? Isn't it useful? AC regards, AC Alan Chan AC _ AC MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* AC http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
Re: No complains on the *istD, whats wrong?
Does this mean that I can take credit for Pentax finally getting off their ass just to get even with me? Sure. Leaked info from Pentax Board Room meetings mention 'The Rubenstein Manoeuver'... Cotty Oh, swipe me! He paints with light! http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/ Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at http://www.macads.co.uk/
RE: *ist D photos
Finally! Very nice indeed. That camera is SMALL. Sorry, that should read: THAT CAMERA IS small. Cotty Oh, swipe me! He paints with light! http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/ Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at http://www.macads.co.uk/
*istd: first visual impression
Wheels a la PZ-1p! What a disappointment... impacts significantly on the design and makes it more of a C/N clone. The film *ist is more stylish and distinguishable. The external finish reminds me of the MZ-S. Can we hope for magnesium alloy... ? I'm also intrigued by the button above the AF mode selector. The icon - rectangle frame sustained - is very suggestive for IS. Oh well, this is slipping SF again... Servus, Alin
Re: strange button on *ist-D (IS?)
on 27.02.03 10:32, Rob Studdert at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess: press it once and a white balance offset will be set that will be applied to subsequent captured images. Welcome to the world of direct digital image capture. For sure you have to point at the neutral colour surface, then you press this button and white balance is set! -- Best Regards Sylwek
Re: The flood gates open....
Dnia 26-02-2003 o godz. 23:15 Chris Brogden napisal: The myth about digital offering more DOF is partly true, though. To get a DSLR lens that magnifies things as much as a 50mm lens for a 35mm film camera does, you'll need to go with a DSLR lens with a focal length of roughly 35mm (assuming a 1.5x conversion factor). When a subject looks the same size through a 35mm lens and a 50mm lens, the shot taken with the 35mm lens will have more DOF than that taken with the 50mm lens. AFAIK if your subject is of the same size the DOF is exactly the same regardles of focal length used. In DSLR we have a bit different case - the subject is not projected on media as the same size - it is smaller in APS DSLR and than magnified so it seems as it uses the same part of the frame as in regular SLR. So here we have a case od the same subject distance giving as the same frame with different focal lengths. And this results in greater DOF on APS DSLR. Maciej Konkurs Europa Moich Marze. Wygraj wyjazd do Brukseli, indeks wyszej uczelni lub zestaw komputerowy! http://www.konkurs.org.pl
Re: *ist D photos
on 27.02.03 10:29, Nagaraj, Ramesh at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: more pics at http://www.dpreview.com/news/0302/03022602pentaxistd.asp Have you seen lens sunshade? It is petal type - this means that this new wide zoom has IF (internal focusing) and thus doesn't rotate its front! -- Best Regards Sylwek
Re: strange button on *ist-D (IS?)
On 27 Feb 2003 at 11:03, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: on 27.02.03 10:32, Rob Studdert at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess: press it once and a white balance offset will be set that will be applied to subsequent captured images. Welcome to the world of direct digital image capture. For sure you have to point at the neutral colour surface, then you press this button and white balance is set! Of course that is only if you wish to set the white point to a neutral colour, I sometimes set non-neutral colour balances for effect. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html
now just a leica R9d would just be heaven
all this excitement has left me wondering if leica and panosonic will release a digital slr mm heaven only if i could get pentax 43mm and 77mm in lecia r mount
Surface of D *ist's body
Have you noticed texture on surfaces of D *ist? It is very similar to the one on MZ-S. Could it be that it is build of magnesium-alloy, or is it simply imitation? I guess it is imitation, but who knows? -- Best Regards Sylwek
RE: Surface of D *ist's body
At last - someone else has noticed! I was beginning to think I was imaginining it! I have looked long and hard, and am now fairly sure (especially when looking at the relected light on the surface) that this IS magnesium like the MZ-S. DOUBLE, TRIPLE, QUADRUPLE WOWW! -Original Message- From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 February 2003 10:28 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Surface of D *ist's body Have you noticed texture on surfaces of D *ist? It is very similar to the one on MZ-S. Could it be that it is build of magnesium-alloy, or is it simply imitation? I guess it is imitation, but who knows? -- Best Regards Sylwek
Re: Surface of D *ist's body
on 27.02.03 11:25, Rob Brigham at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At last - someone else has noticed! I was beginning to think I was imaginining it! I have looked long and hard, and am now fairly sure (especially when looking at the relected light on the surface) that this IS magnesium like the MZ-S. DOUBLE, TRIPLE, QUADRUPLE WOWW! It looks so, and I would like it to be true :-) But AFAIK N F80 has quite similar surface, imitating painting on metal, but it is of course plastic. Anyway, we must wait until somebody touch it! Ehhh... great job Pentax, I am very pleased with all new things you have showed to us! -- Best Regards Sylwek
Early weekend sale : Pentax lens and miscellaneous
Hi all, here is this Thursday's FS offer to the list - whatever'll be left will go the ebay way. Please contact me off-list if interested (got JPG's too).Prices do not include shipping - which is on the cheap side though. LENS: Pentax SMC-M 85mm f2 complete with original hard case, dedicated hood and both caps. Condition : like new - that included cosmetics and mechanics. 100% perfect in all respects. Asking price - 220$. HOOD: Takumar metal hood, 49mm diameter, for 100 and 105mm lenses. works great with the above listed 85/2-M lens too- no vignetting. Mint.14$. RING: 49mm to 52mm step-up ring. Like New. 10$. FILTERS: Pentax SMC filter, skylight, silver-rimmed, 49mm diameter. Like New. 15$ (they are kinda scarce) Vivitar UV filter, 49mm diameter, like new. 8$. Moose filter , 49mm diameter. That's a GREAT - circular - polarizer combined with a warming filter. NIB. 25$. STRAPS: Original Pentax thin (black) camera shoulder strap complete with rubber shoulder pad. like new. 10$. Domke (all-black) shoulder strap. New, very sturdy. 10$. CASES, BAGS and WRAPS: Five assorted Sacar padded leather cases for 35mm lenses. VERY high quality (best I've had by far) - bought them in France, haven't seen the like of them anywhere since. Like new condition.All-black leather, inside light gray waterproof material. Each has a loop for easy attaching to a belt or strap. four can host lenses up tp 105mm , the fifth can host a heftier telephoto lens. Asking 14$ per case, or 55$ for all five. Three Lowerpro Omni series all-black photo bags: one Medium sized Omni- Traveler bag, two smaller sized Omni-Sport bags. The Omni-Sport hosts comfortably a body and up to three normal sized slr lenses (or a body and two lenses and a flash, or a body and one telephoto and a flash, etc); the Omni-Traveler can host the same as the Omni-Sport, plus an extra body and lens (or an extra telephoto and flash). All have both shoulder and waist straps.Ex++, close to new condition - none of them has ever left my (spotless) closet actually- been using them for storing my lenses. Make me a reasonable offer for one or all. Lowerpro photo runner. Forest Green and black, VERY handy carrying bag- this one did get some outings, but apart from a some marks on the rubber grip, it looks spotless both in and out. Holds comfortably one slr body and two lenses, also has side pockets for film/flash. Very secure zippers, has both shoulder and waist straps. Make me a reasonable offer Two f.64 lens wraps. Like New. 20$ for both (each hosts comfortably a normal size 35mm lens) Waterproof all-black sleeve with adjustable opening.Perfect for using a camera in the rain without getting it wet. Like New. 14$ LIGHT METER: Chrome Weston Master V light meter complete with Ivercone, strap and original user manual. Perfect working condition, exc cosmetics. Extremely accurate- no battery needed! Very reliable. 45$. RELEASE CORD: Vintage made in Germany release cord. Like New. 10$ INSTRUCTION BOOKLETS: Pentax ME II winder Instruction booklet. Like New- 5$ Super Speedex original Instruction booklet. VG+ condition - scarce! sold the camera, just found the manual. 12$. BOOKS: Asahi Pentax and Pentax SLR 35mm cameras, 1952-1989, by Danilo Cecchi. A Hove Collector's Guide. This is one great book. Like New with the exception of the owner's name neatly scribbled on the top of the front page. 20$ Landscapes, camera craft, by William Cheung. A great guide to landscape photography. New condition , with the exception of the owner's name neatly scribbled..20$ The Lens Book, choosing and using lenses for your slr, by Roger Hicks and Frances Schultz. Inside like new- cover shows shelf wear. The ultimate book on the infinite lens-array dilemmas! 18$ That's bout it for today folks! Daphne One Mini (=table) Manfrotto (=Bogen) all-metal tripod complete with head and quick release plate. Mint condition. 25$.
It has come or Congratulate me?!
Hi! My ME Super has arrived yesterday. Since I drove to Jerusalem to shoot some snow I couldn't really take full advantage of it... Anyway, camera appears in condition exactly as advertised. I loaded the film and took some shots. Though darker than ZX-L's, but with that single element lens it is indeed easier to focus... Though my first camera was totally manual Zenit ET, this one is a great piece of engineering to hold. Recalling recent talk on shutter sound - ME Super is louder than ZX-L, but ZX-L augments the shutter release with film advancement. Always, and I mean literally always, when I try to shoot people stealth mode, they turn their heads after the first shot. So overall, ME Super is way more silent, or better yet, stealthy. So, in light of recent *ist D storm, I thought I'd share with you this step towards yestertech... Pictures of snow in Jerusalem (those that came out) will be hopefully available shortly. --- Boris Liberman www.geocities.com/dunno57 www.photosig.com/viewuser.php?id=38625
hmm,looks like my FS Manfortto table tripod got left out!
please add to the previously posted FS list: one Neat mini (table) Manfrotto (=Bogen) all-metal tripod complete with head and quick release plate. Like New- 25$. Daphne
Re: a real advantage of the D*ist!
Dnia 27-02-2003 o godz. 2:23 Mike Johnston napisal: it takes ORDINARY AA BATTERIES... you know, the kind you can buy in just about any small shop, anywhere in the world :-) Kristian, I agree with this. Rechargeable NiMH batteries are efficient, cost effective, and environmentally friendly. The ability to use Alkaline AAs in a pinch is also a plus. Note, though, that the camera will probably not operate very well with alkalines. They will work, but digital cameras drain alkalines in a hurry. So the use of AAs is most likely to mean rechargeables. That's what I was going to add. When we got M**ta Dimage 7Hi at work my boss was realy eager to try it out. The rechargeables that came with the camera had to be charged so he went and bought 4 alkalines (or at least that's what he told me). The camera didn't even turn on fully... Also I'm not sure if making a nice batery for the camera is not a better way. Minolta draind the power pretty quick - at first contact we got about an hour of play. Maybe batteries similiar to thase used in mobile phones would be more effective? Maciej Konkurs Europa Moich Marze. Wygraj wyjazd do Brukseli, indeks wyszej uczelni lub zestaw komputerowy! http://www.konkurs.org.pl
More phots of *ist-D - the mysterious button?
Dear all, more photos of *ist-D can be found in dpreview.com: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0302/pma2003/pentax/istd-01.jpg http://www.dpreview.com/news/0302/pma2003/pentax/istd-02.jpg http://www.dpreview.com/news/0302/pma2003/pentax/istd-03.jpg http://www.dpreview.com/news/0302/pma2003/pentax/istd-04.jpg http://www.dpreview.com/news/0302/pma2003/pentax/istd-05.jpg The white balance is set on the top left dial. Hence, the purpose of the mysterious button above the AF selector switch in the left size of lens mount is still unknown. My bet is still on activating the image stabilizing function (to prevent problems with the power zoom contacts on the lens mount). I am a *ist - the optimist! Regards, Henry Chu 27/2/2003 _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail
Re: the *ist D
Man, I dropped off the list in frustration a few months ago but my faith is renewed with the sneak peek... thank God I held on to my Pentax glass and invested very little in Canon glass for my D30! Having said that, my only regret is that I won't be able to carry over my 70-200/f4 L lens... that is truly a great lens for race circuits. Cheers. On Thursday, February 27, 2003, at 05:38 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Today I'm just going to enjoy the news about the *ist D.
Re: *ist D photos
Black is good... that silver body reminds me too much of a cheap EOS Kiss... On Thursday, February 27, 2003, at 07:51 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And it is black !!
Re: Surface of D *ist's body
At last - someone else has noticed! I was beginning to think I was imaginining it! Me too :-) I guess we won't have much to complain about. That is, ff the price is right, the pictures come out fine and the camera really materializes in shops... What I'd really like to see is *ist D's film sibling. Lukasz === www.fotopolis.pl [EMAIL PROTECTED] === internetowy magazyn o fotografii --r-e-k-l-a-m-a- Tanie bilety lotnicze! http://samoloty.onet.pl
Re: *ist D photos
I've just fallen in love with this camera. Its an excellent combinations of both MZ-like and Z-like designs. WOW Regards Artur - Original Message - From: KT Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax Discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 2:50 AM Subject: *ist D photos Comrades! http://www.digitalcamera.jp/html/HotNews/image/2003-02/27/ist-D-1L.jpg http://www.digitalcamera.jp/html/HotNews/image/2003-02/27/ist-D-2L.jpg Wow! Ken --r-e-k-l-a-m-a- Tanie bilety lotnicze! http://samoloty.onet.pl
Re: More phots of *ist-D - the mysterious button?
On 27 Feb 2003 at 18:54, Iren Henry Chu wrote: The white balance is set on the top left dial. Hence, the purpose of the mysterious button above the AF selector switch in the left size of lens mount is still unknown. My bet is still on activating the image stabilizing function (to prevent problems with the power zoom contacts on the lens mount). The white balance mode might be set using the top left dial but the mystery button is most definitely the manual white balance set/sample button. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html
pentax-discuss-d Digest V03 #13
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi People Interesting times.and I've just finally acquired an LX to join the 2 MXs, ME super and bag of Pentax primes I've had since the 80s! Looks like I NOW haven't got ANY excuse to ignore the digital world any longer ... I need some help on using the LX [or ME super?] with an AF280T for fill flash..basically I want the flash to underexpose by -.7 of a stop [but the camera exposing normally] to get a better fill light ratio..I'm sure someone out there knows how? I also need to find someone to overhaul my MX motor drive... And finally, does anyone have source of LX strap lugs [I want to modify an LX gripA LX2000 style] oh and whats the best tool to shape the grip with? Thanks for the daily enntertainment...is this legal? Clive Evans Antibes, France [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: *ist D photos
Wow! Looks really good, two wheels a bit like the PZ-1p ... And my 31mm and 77mm limiteds in black look like a perfect match :-) Regards, JvW On Wed, 26 Feb 2003 21:09:23 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.digitalcamera.jp/html/HotNews/image/2003-02/27/ist-D-1L.jpg http://www.digitalcamera.jp/html/HotNews/image/2003-02/27/ist-D-2L.jpg -- Jan van Wijk; http://www.dfsee.com/gallery
Re: More phots of *ist-D - the mysterious button?
On Thu, 27 Feb 2003 22:30:33 +1000, Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Come on guys, the mystery isn't, see the section Manual White Balance in the following page: http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/olympuse10/page6.asp You are right for sure. Pentax already has used this symbol in Optio menus for manual white balance. You can see it at http://www.steves- digicams.com/2002_reviews/pentax330gs_pg3.html (the menu image (third from top) is animated, and when it comes to the White balance there at the bottom can be seen this mysterious sybol). Ed
Re: *ist D photos - 11 AF sensor placement
I think Dario B. tried to tell us last week. It was 3 by 3 with two 'wings' on the horizontal direction. Bob S. Dumb question, anyone know whatth 11 sensor AF pattern is, I've seem the metering but not AF sensor placement, anyone know or did I miss something.
Re: *istd : CCD from Sony
On 27 Feb 2003 at 14:05, Alin Flaider wrote: According to Chasseur d'Images, the *istd sports the same Sony CCD used in N* D100. So, looking at some D100 samples hints to the image quality in *istd. There is no reason Pentax won't do at least as good as D100 - an year later. Also, according to the same source the body is plastic, thus justifying the expectedly low price. http://www.photim.net/PMA-2003/Pentax-ist-D.html Hmm, they don't seem so confident about the proposed release date. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html
Re: Is perspective cropping? WAS: pentax-discuss-d Digest V03 #8
On Thu, 27 Feb 2003 00:21:28 -0600, you wrote: So, yes, the 50mm lens on an APS sized sensor would have the same angle of view, d.o.f. at same aperture, perspective, and flattening effect as a piece of 35mm film cropped. But so would a 75mm lens on a full-sized piece of 35mm film. Hope this is clear. This is one of those perennial questions in photography--it just always comes up again and again and again. --Mike I support Mike's observation. The DSLR's smaller sensor acts like a 1.5x teleconverter. Your lenses just get longer with the smaller sensor, no matter what. My 300/f4mm lens becomes a 450/f4mm lens, and my formerly wide angle 24-135mm zoom becomes a very different animal of 36-202mm. So break out those good old long Pentax and K-mount lenses, those who have been yearning for Big Glass. I personally am jumping with glee - my Tokina AT-X 300/2.8 and Pentax 1.7x AF Adapter will make a very fine 765mm/f5 lens. Even the little K 200/2.5 is looking pretty good at 300/2.5. And the 600/4 with 1.4XL teleconverter becomes an amazing 1260mm/f4 lens. Drool city for this telephoto aficionado. -- John Mustarde www.photolin.com
Re: pentax-discuss-d Digest V03 #11
- Original Message - Subject: Re: pentax-discuss-d Digest V03 #11 On Wednesday, Feb 26, 2003, at 22:02 US/Pacific, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thats cause Ricoh put a pin where Pentax specified an AF shaft, not Pentaxes fault Ricoh didn't want to follow the KA mount correctly. 'kay, so the Ricoh example was being a bit unfair. Still, Pentax themselves have released bodies that don't work with older MF lenses. That bridge has already been crossed (and just like nobody's forcing you to buy those bodies, nobody's gonna force you to buy those hypothetical smaller-coverage lenses). Nikon and Leica have certain combinations of lenses/bodies that are no-no's, too. With Nikon, you need to buy one of the top end bodies to get system compatability. Canon and Minolta both orphaned entire system users. I don't know much about Leica SLR's but have heard of incompatabilities between entire generations of equipment. The Ricoh example wasn't thought through very well. With Pentax, you only need to avoid the very bottom end camera bodies. These are the ones targeted at the green smiley face, one lens users. William Robb
Re: now just a leica R9d would just be heaven
- Original Message - From: adphoto Subject: now just a leica R9d would just be heaven heaven only if i could get pentax 43mm and 77mm in lecia r mount And the point of that would be?? William Robb
pentax-discuss-d Digest V03 #14
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Rob Yep the lug bit, you shouldn't have sent me those pix, I just can't get on with the sideways strap thing... Clive
Re: are phtot.net anti pentax???
Photo.net reflects the attitude of the general photographic community, particularly in America, towards all camera brands including Pentax. Don't worry, Pop Photog will be all excited. BR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how long ago was the *ist announced and still no show on their site now the *ist D is announced and again a no show h
Re: No complains on the *istD, whats wrong?
Good, now I can scratch off make major contribution to humanity off my to-do list. BR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure. Leaked info from Pentax Board Room meetings mention 'The Rubenstein Manoeuver'...
Re: Is perspective cropping? WAS: pentax-discuss-d Digest V03 #8
On February 27, 2003 07:34 am, John Mustarde wrote: On Thu, 27 Feb 2003 00:21:28 -0600, you wrote: So, yes, the 50mm lens on an APS sized sensor would have the same angle of view, d.o.f. at same aperture, perspective, and flattening effect as a piece of 35mm film cropped. But so would a 75mm lens on a full-sized piece of 35mm film. Hope this is clear. This is one of those perennial questions in photography--it just always comes up again and again and again. --Mike I support Mike's observation. The DSLR's smaller sensor acts like a 1.5x teleconverter. Your lenses just get longer with the smaller sensor, no matter what. The way it makes the most sense to me is to think in terms of the film moving. You've got a cone coming out of the back. The further back the film plane the wider the lens. x x x x x xx x x x x x x Your piece of film needs to fiit inside that cone. So if you only change the film size the same lens can go from very long to wide. Nick
Re: *ist D photos
J. C. O'Connell wrote: My brain does not process icons well. I still find it a 50-50 proposition selecting between O and I when I want to power on new computer equipment - I have no idea if O means On or empty or Off or what. Those are not O I, they are 0 (zero ) and 1 (one). zero = off, 1 = on. Very easy. JCO Hardly intuitive, is it. In what parlance/language does 1 stand for on? Binary? On an A/C line power switch? And, if it was meant to be a zero, it should have had the slant bar thru it, like '0', to avoid just this sort of ambiguity. Hmmm. The electrical symbol for current is 'I'... Anyhow, it is a curiosity! Most ordinary humans do not think in terms of binary symbols when it comes to ordinary, everyday items like hardware power switches. My wall switches, even the toggle or rocker ones, do not have 1 and 0, or even I and O on them. keith
Re: *ist D photos
What ISO spec? There are a ton of ISO specs, aren't there? keith Herb Chong wrote: have you read the ISO spec? Herb... - Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 02:42 Subject: RE: *ist D photos I think not -Original Message- From: Herb Chong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 2:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: *ist D photos - Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 00:32 Subject: RE: *ist D photos My brain does not process icons well. I still find it a 50-50 proposition selecting between O and I when I want to power on new computer equipment - I have no idea if O means On or empty or Off or what. Those are not O I, they are 0 (zero ) and 1 (one). zero = off, 1 = on. Very easy. JCO actually, not. look through a pipe with a full shutoff butterfly valve. O is closed with valve stopping it, and | is open with valve turned 90 degrees. that doesn't mean that the symbols are any more intuitive, but that is why they chose those symbols. Herb
More Pix - istD from dpreview
In a message dated 2/27/03 3:31:46 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: more pics at http://www.dpreview.com/news/0302/03022602pentaxistd.asp Ramesh
RE: *istd : CCD from Sony
Bear in mind that Cd'I were the ones who said categorically that Pentax would have nothing at all to show at PMA! I am 99% sure they have no more idea than us whether the body is plastic or not - I bet they havent seen one other than the pics we have posted. -Original Message- From: Alin Flaider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 February 2003 12:05 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: *istd : CCD from Sony According to Chasseur d'Images, the *istd sports the same Sony CCD used in N* D100. So, looking at some D100 samples hints to the image quality in *istd. There is no reason Pentax won't do at least as good as D100 - an year later. Also, according to the same source the body is plastic, thus justifying the expectedly low price. http://www.photim.net/PMA-2003/Pentax-ist-D.html Servus, Alin
Re: strange button on *ist-D (IS?)
After looking at some pictures of the *ist-D on DPReview I rather think it is for allowing the camera to communicate with ones computer when it is necessary to upload images. On the majority of digital cameras there is a 'play' mode and one has to switch the camera into that mode before it will communicate with the computer in order upload image files. Possibly pressing this button on the Pentax serves the same purpose. Just a guess. :-) Harry -- Harold Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: *istd : CCD from Sony
Rob wrote: RS Hmm, they don't seem so confident about the proposed release date. They are quite reserved after the warm welcome they made to the - later aborted - digital MZ-S. We should all take example. Servus, Alin
RE: *ist D competitor - Canon EOS 10D
On Thu, 27 Feb 2003 09:20:07 -, Rob Brigham wrote: Now I really want to know what the body on the *ist D is made of - it truly looks magnesium to me! I think it is plastic, first because of the expected low pricing and second because of how it looks here: http://www.digitalcamera.jp/html/HotNews/image/2003-02/27/ist-D-1L.jpg Check the grip surface just left of the lens, that pattern looks different from the MZ-S and very much like plastic if you ask me ... (But I'll get one anyway, ASAP :-) Regards, JvW -- Jan van Wijk; http://www.dfsee.com/gallery
Re: Effective WHAT? (Digital *ist)
Michel Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In marketingspeak, 'effective' might as well mean 'we are faking it'. But it sounds better. If there is real vanilla in your ice cream, you can be sure that the marketing droid who will design the label on the packaging, and the publicity campaing will make sure to mention it. On the other hand, only the long arm of the law will force him to disclose that it is artificial. So, are all of these pixels representing 'measured' data points, or are some of them derived on the fly from others? Hypothetically, given the choice between 'interpolated' and 'guessed', who could blame them if they decided on a third one, 'effective' ? They would be insane if they did not trumpet the maximum 'un-arguable' resolution of 6+ megapixels, if it was really un-arguable. No, they'd be lying. The maximum un-arguable number of pixels is *greater* than the effective number. This is standard terminology with digital cameras. The *ist D uses the same CCD as the Nikon D100. The total number of pixels is 6.31 million. The total number of *effective* pixels is 6.11 million. The 200,000 pixels outside the image area are used for dark reference. Virtually all digital camera pixel counts are specified this way. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: a real advantage of the D*ist!
Let's hope the battery life (is there a rechargable???) is as good as Canon's. I can get by on a day's shoot of a 340 MB microdrive filled twice on a pair of batteries loaded up in the battery grip and using an external flash. Cheers. On Thursday, February 27, 2003, at 09:25 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But that's what Minolta's digicams are known for - draining power. They are about the most energy hungry cameras around (check the dpreview.com for a comparison).
Re: Is perspective cropping? WAS: pentax-discuss-d Digest V03 #8
Not really. The fact that the 50 has a field of view more like a 75 is created by cropping, not optical zooming. In effect, the less-than-24x36 image sensor size means that there's a permanently enabled digital zoom feature on the camera. All you're doing is cropping. The perspective-flattening effects of longer optics aren't going to come into play (or will they? maybe I'm the confused one). This is explained in one of Ansel's books (The Camera?). A lens of a given focal length projects an image of the same size regardless of film format. For example, if a 300mm lens on a 4x5 camera projects a subject 1 inch high on the film, then a 300mm lens on a 35mm camera will project the same subject 1 inch high. The difference being that of course on the 4x5 it would take up only about 1/4 of the film, while on 35mm it would be nearly full frame. Bill
Re: *ist D - Pricing
Was this pricing confirmed anywhere? I didn't see any mention of it... if it's under US$2,000, it's going to be *total* steal! On Thursday, February 27, 2003, at 09:25 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, according to the same source the body is plastic, thus justifying the expectedly low price.
Re: More phots of *ist-D - the mysterious button?
Excellent example for proof. Thanks, keith Rob Studdert wrote: On 27 Feb 2003 at 13:13, Alin Flaider wrote: Henry wrote: IHC My bet is still on activating the image IHC stabilizing function (to prevent problems with the power zoom contacts on IHC the lens mount). Further with IS science fiction... Come on guys, the mystery isn't, see the section Manual White Balance in the following page: http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/olympuse10/page6.asp Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Re: Comparing Pentax 80-200/2.8 vs Sigma 70-200/2.8
Pat White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Optically, the Sigma is very good. I'm pleased with mine. I'm sure the Pentax is just as good, if not better. There are quite a few physical differences, though. The Pentax lens is around an inch longer, a little heavier, and focuses 40cm closer (140cm, as opposed to 180 cm for the Sigma). Sometimes you want your lens to focus closer than 5ft 10in. However, the extra angle of view at 70mm is useful, too. Last, but not least, the Sigma is less than half the price of the Pentax, here in Canada. That kind of clinched it for me. That's really a big factor. I was about to buy the Sigma myself when I came upon a used Pentax for just a little more money. In that case, it was a no-brainer: I bought the Pentax and it converted me from a prime lens snob to a zoom believer. The closer focusing distance really made the decision easier for me and it turned out to be a good decision; I'm constantly finding myself using it at its minimum focusing distance. The optical quality of the FA* lens is just amazing. Don't believe the people who say the Power Zoom feature is responsible for the extra weight: The construction is magnificent - lotsa metal and glass! I think the Pentax probably is worth $1300 but I'm also sure the Sigma is worth its $700 street price. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: 85/1.8 v. 85/2 for portrait - EX: Tradeoffs: old vs. new,FA77/1.8 vs. K85/1.8
Well, it is hard to tell, whether the K85/f1.8 or the M85/f2 make nicer portraits. All I can say is that - stooped down my M85/f2 has a slightly higher resolution at portrait distance then my K85/f1.8 Hmmm. How far do you stop down for portraits? I personally don't like much DOF, and I don't use a flash so sometimes (if the conditions don't allow me to better) I need to keep it open... The 1.8 (or 1.4, but there is no way I can get my hand on one, and the price...) might be better for me afterall? L - my most beutyful portrait shots have been made with the M85/f2 ...
Re: More phots of *ist-D - the mysterious button?
Dear all, Thanks for correcting my error because I never own an Olympus nor Optio digicam. The marking for white balance on my canon ixus is just WB. I will be so disappointed if Pentax doesn't take this opportunity to launch KAF3 Henry Chu 27/2/2003 From: Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: More phots of *ist-D - the mysterious button? Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 05:33:39 -0800 Excellent example for proof. Thanks, keith Rob Studdert wrote: On 27 Feb 2003 at 13:13, Alin Flaider wrote: Henry wrote: IHC My bet is still on activating the image IHC stabilizing function (to prevent problems with the power zoom contacts on IHC the lens mount). Further with IS science fiction... Come on guys, the mystery isn't, see the section Manual White Balance in the following page: http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/olympuse10/page6.asp Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: It's HERE!... NOT Bah!
Mike Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really beg to differ. This would not be dumb at all, it would be SMART. Canon and Nikon have already started doing it (Canon's digital-only lenses are expected at this PMA or in Japan). One of the MAJOR advantages of digital is that you can get high quality out of a smaller-than-35mm sensor, In terms of capture area, it makes no difference whether it's film or a digital sensor: A larger area allows higher resolution form a given lens. It's the same principle as the difference between 35mm and 645 or APS and 35mm. Now for your style of shooting - generally not making large prints - the smaller format is acceptable, but the greater resolution possible with a larger capture area is important to those of us who like to make large prints. and this in turn paves the way for smaller, lighter, faster lenses. There's no reason to be forced to buy a telephoto that covers 35mm when you're trying to do nature and wildlife work with a DSLR like the *ist D; That's true. And that's what sub-size sensors are good for. there's no reason to have to bear the expense, size, and slow speed of what for 35mm is super-wide-angle, when all you need to cover is the smaller sensor of the *ist D. As long as you don't need the resolution required for large prints. I will be surprised and disappointed if Pentax doesn't follow through with at least a limited series of lenses specifically for the *ist D. Perhaps, but there are many people who will be disappointed if they don't move toward a full-frame DSLR like Canon, Kodak and soon Nikon. There are certainly a lot of us who'll be royally p*ist off if our huge investment in glass (including my 15mm f/3.5) is made obsolete or irrelevant; that is, if we have to have two different lenses to serve the same purpose on a DSLR and a film SLR. Not everyone is going to *abandon* film for digital. Many of us plan on using both...if it's possible/practical. Canon has made this possible with the EOS 1Ds (while also demonstrating the superior quality possible with a larger sensor). This is exactly what is needed in digital photography, not the continued application f vestigial technology that's clearly on the way out. I side with Michael Reichmann on this one. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Picture of *istD
Who the hell cares?!?!?! We got a DLSR to use with Pentax lenses!!! WAHOOO! This has been my number one (photo) thought for the last day or so. ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) Fred
Re: To Everyone who has been published
As far back as I can recall, my first published photograph was a product shot for my former employer's web site. I think you can still see it here: http://www.didi.com/www/areas/products/monkey2/MK1/index.html I was doing engineering work on the Monkey2 at that time as well as taking a class in studio lighting. Our graphic designer needed a product shot so I took advantage of my studio time and did it with a Cambo 4x5 on Kodak E100. --jc
Re: More phots of *ist-D - the mysterious button?
Iren Henry Chu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for correcting my error because I never own an Olympus nor Optio digicam. The marking for white balance on my canon ixus is just WB. I will be so disappointed if Pentax doesn't take this opportunity to launch KAF3 I dunno. The DSLR undoubtedly used up a lot of R D dollars. There's only so much available. Just be glad the camera itself looks like such a winner. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
*ist D, DOF preview ?
Another question ... The release-button on the *ist D looks pretty much like the MZ-S one I think. However, I do not see if a DOF function is on there too. Anyone seen something related to DOF-preview yet ? Release button shows clearly at: http://www.digitalcamera.jp/html/HotNews/image/2003-02/27/ist-D-1L.jpg Regards, JvW -- Jan van Wijk; http://www.dfsee.com/gallery
Threads Titled pentax-discuss-d Digest Vnn #nn
I know that it must be done only unintentionally by PDML-ers that subscribe to the digest version, but posting to the PDML with subject lines with the pentax-discuss-d Digest Vnn #nn format (by replying to digest messages without fixing the subject line) is not very helpful. I would assume that the sender usually wants his/her post be be read by anyone interested in whatever subject he/she is posting about. However, speaking entirely for myself, I don't have time to read all the PDML posts, so that I read only the messages with subject lines that interest me, and subject lines that say only pentax-discuss-d Digest Vnn #nn do not sound interesting and are ignored. So, I would suggest that, when any digest PDML-er mistakenly sends out a reply to some thread but sends it with a pentax-discuss-d Digest Vnn #nn title, that he/she re-title it and send it again. If the post has info worth sharing (and I'm assuming that is usually the case), then it is worth sending it again properly labeled. Just some personal thoughts... I'm really trying to be helpful, and I'm not trying to be merely critical. Fred (in pseudo-curmudgeon mode)
Dust and CCD
Hi all. I'm sure i'm repeating something everyone knows but from experience with the D1 now for a year and a half,dust and ccd's dont mix well. I try to change my lenses in as dust free an area as possible.Couple of times i have had some nice pics ruined by a big dust blob.Not many but a few. Somthing to keep in mind though. Dave(hurricane blower)Brooks Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada Art needs to be in a frame.That way we know when the art stops and the wall begins--Frank Zappa http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail
Re: *ist D, DOF preview ?
There's a button marked DPOF on the back: http://www.digitalcamera.jp/html/HotNews/image/2003-02/27/ist-D-2L.jpg Would this be depth of field? Bill - Original Message - From: Jan van Wijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 9:20 AM Subject: *ist D, DOF preview ? Another question ... The release-button on the *ist D looks pretty much like the MZ-S one I think. However, I do not see if a DOF function is on there too. Anyone seen something related to DOF-preview yet ? Release button shows clearly at: http://www.digitalcamera.jp/html/HotNews/image/2003-02/27/ist-D-1L.jpg Regards, JvW -- Jan van Wijk; http://www.dfsee.com/gallery
Re: *istd: first visual impression
Alin wrote: Wheels a la PZ-1p! What a disappointment... impacts significantly on the design and makes it more of a C/N clone. The film *ist is more stylish and distinguishable. I agree. I have no doubt that it will appeal to people sitting on old K-mount glass, but it won't steal a single customer from any other brand of SLR as it is indistinguishable from any other slr brand both in looks and features. Sure its small size is a selling point, but unfortunately most buyers prefer big as it seems you litterally get more for your money in that way. I had hoped for something stylish ans distingushed, something along the lines of Optios (S). Instead we got something that looks like a Nikon F80. Pål
Re: Surface of D *ist's body
Sylwester wrote: Have you noticed texture on surfaces of D *ist? It is very similar to the one on MZ-S. Could it be that it is build of magnesium-alloy, or is it simply imitation? I guess it is imitation, but who knows? So is the 645NII but it is still plastic. Pål
Re: Is perspective cropping? WAS: pentax-discuss-d Digest V03 #8
John wrote: And the 600/4 with 1.4XL teleconverter becomes an amazing 1260mm/f4 lens. Drool city for this telephoto aficionado. ...and with 50% reduction in resolution for the lens alone + the reduction of the converter. I'm sorry, but the FA* 600/4 isn't that good. Pål
Re: *istd : CCD from Sony
Rob wrote: Hmm, they don't seem so confident about the proposed release date. But they are certified morons anyway, so who cares? Pål
Re: *ist D Flagship SLR
Robert wrote: After seeing the *ist D photos, which has some MZ-S influence, I bet you can see the flagship slr. Huh? You mean the Pentax flagship should be a Nikon F80 clone? I'll certainly be dissapointed Pentax will fix the MZ-S problemsadd aperature control, the great PZ-1p hyper modes, and hyper manual. In my opinion, the MZ-S was close but lacked some key and unique PZ-1p features. The lack of aperature control on the body was inexcusable. Certainly not. The MZ-S was intended as an upgrade path for the MZ-5n and maintained its interface. It was also intended as a basis for a high-end DSLR which would appeal to Pentax MF users, and LX users for that matter, and hence had matching interface. The *ist D is in a totally different ballpark marketing wise. Pål
Re: It's HERE!... NOT Bah!
Mike wrote: I will be surprised and disappointed if Pentax doesn't follow through with at least a limited series of lenses specifically for the *ist D. This is exactly what is needed in digital photography, not the continued application of vestigial technology that's clearly on the way out. I agree. This is the only thing that can tempt me into digital in the next five years or so. Makes something with reach of a 600/4 to a fraction size, weight and costs. Pål
Re: *ist D photos
That gets both my thumbs up! If God had given me a few more thumbs it would get them too... But unfortunately I've only got two. But then you wouldn't be able to operate a camera...you'd be all thumbs GROAN BUTCH Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself. Hermann Hess (Damien)
Re: Comparing Pentax 80-200/2.8 vs Sigma 70-200/2.8
Could anyone tell me whether this Sigma lens (or, in fact, the current Sigma line of Pentax mount lenses) focuses Pentax-style or in the reverse direction, when focused manually? I've been quite happy with the A 70-210/4 for a fairly compact moderate telephoto zoom, and I also like using the manual focus Tokina AT-X 80-200/2.8 when I can afford to lug it around (and Tokina lenses - at least all the ones that I have used - focus Pentax style (unlike Vivitar S1 and Tamron SD lenses, which seem to focus backwards). So, how about this (and other) Sigma lenses? Thanks for the input. Fred
Re: Pentax DSLR
300/2.8 sounds about normal to me, for effective FOV of 450mm. For a wider angle I'd choose a K 200/2.5. ...must be a birder... ;-) Fred
RE: *ist D, DOF preview ?
Look at http://www.dpreview.com/news/0302/pma2003/pentax/istd-03.jpg - its on the shutter release like MZ-S. This is a wonderful system and I am glad they kept with it! -Original Message- From: Jan van Wijk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 February 2003 14:20 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: *ist D, DOF preview ? Another question ... The release-button on the *ist D looks pretty much like the MZ-S one I think. However, I do not see if a DOF function is on there too. Anyone seen something related to DOF-preview yet ? Release button shows clearly at: http://www.digitalcamera.jp/html/HotNews/image/2003-02/27/ist-D-1L.jpg Regards, JvW -- Jan van Wijk; http://www.dfsee.com/gallery
Re: *istd: first visual impression
It wouldn't be half bad if it sold like F80s. BR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Instead we got something that looks like a Nikon F80.
IST*D availability
I just got in, saw the pictures and read the reactions. It's a pretty beast, and I dying to see some sample images. They managed to push many of the right buttons and if the price is OK a lot of Pentax users are going to want one. One question I have is availability. I remember that folks where trying pretty hard to get the early D60's and D100's. Do you think Pentax will make a bunch of these or be more conservative. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: *istd: first visual impression
Bruce wrote: It wouldn't be half bad if it sold like F80s. But why should it? It is not that the *Ist D is bad in any way. But it is an also ran looking like a F80 with sensor of a one year old Nikon DSLR. The only selling point will be price. Lets just hope that the compettition does not put out something more competitive in the mean time. Pentax, due to its rather pedestrian image, need something more imaginitive to catch interest. Pål
RE: *istd: first visual impression
The 10D with its higher grade body, features and very well proven pedigree now adds excellent high ISO quality and will list at under $2000. You are right - the Pentax better be cheap (and good) to scoop anyone not already tied to the K mount! -Original Message- From: Pål Jensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 February 2003 15:10 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: *istd: first visual impression Bruce wrote: It wouldn't be half bad if it sold like F80s. But why should it? It is not that the *Ist D is bad in any way. But it is an also ran looking like a F80 with sensor of a one year old Nikon DSLR. The only selling point will be price. Lets just hope that the compettition does not put out something more competitive in the mean time. Pentax, due to its rather pedestrian image, need something more imaginitive to catch interest. Pål
*ist D ISO range
Any guesses as to what this is going to be? Ziggy
Re: *ist D, DOF preview ?
Nope, it's Digital Print Order Format. For a brief overview, see http://www.dpreview.com/learn/Glossary/Camera_System/DPOF_01.htm chris On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, Bill Owens wrote: There's a button marked DPOF on the back: http://www.digitalcamera.jp/html/HotNews/image/2003-02/27/ist-D-2L.jpg Would this be depth of field? Bill - Original Message - From: Jan van Wijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 9:20 AM Subject: *ist D, DOF preview ? Another question ... The release-button on the *ist D looks pretty much like the MZ-S one I think. However, I do not see if a DOF function is on there too. Anyone seen something related to DOF-preview yet ? Release button shows clearly at: http://www.digitalcamera.jp/html/HotNews/image/2003-02/27/ist-D-1L.jpg Regards, JvW -- Jan van Wijk; http://www.dfsee.com/gallery
Re: *ist D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
* Convenient playback functions, such as nine imageand 12X magnification-display gimmicks Actually this cna be handy. I use it on the E-10 since its hard to judge details on a 1.5 in screen. The preview thing is a big part of digital. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: *ist D photos
What's a Hyper button? Someone's already pressed it ;-) This list has gone nuts! Cotty Nope, just plain crazy.. Ziggy
RE: Pentax DSLR
I bought my Pentax 20-35 f4 with a digital normal mode in mind. It also opened up the whole wide angle shooting approach for me. I thought I would use this thing occasionally, and it turned into my main lens in Ireland. Until then, I was a normal/short tele kind of guy. ;-) Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Picture of *istD
Sure they will. This way it still won't match the limited lenses (not that this bothers me). Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/27/03 10:44AM http://www.excite.co.jp/world/url/?wb_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.digitalcamera.jp%2Fwb_lp=jaen-ATL They won't let us in the U.S. have it in black. Joe
Hands up and be counted
So, how many of you merry people are going to get an *ist-D and if not why not? To start the ball rolling you can count me as a taker. Ziggy
RE: *ist D ISO range
I think it will be the range of available ISO speeds that you can set on the camera. Sorry, couldn't resist - its been a long day! -Original Message- From: zoomshot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 February 2003 16:13 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: *ist D ISO range Any guesses as to what this is going to be? Ziggy
Re: Hands up and be counted
I'm in! Christian On Thursday 27 February 2003 11:21, zoomshot wrote: So, how many of you merry people are going to get an *ist-D and if not why not? To start the ball rolling you can count me as a taker. Ziggy
Re: It has come or Congratulate me?!
Ed Matthew wrote: A favor, please - will someone send me the link to the picture/description of the D*ist? I deleted too soon :-( Try one of these: http://www.digitalcamera.jp/html/HotNews/image/2003-02/27/ist-D-2L.jpg http://www.digitalcamera.jp/html/HotNews/image/2003-02/27/ist-D-1L.jpg keith whaley
Re: Hands up and be counted
I cannot afford a camera whose street price is anywhere near $2000. Nor $1500, for that matter. I might buy one near $1000, but some equipment would have to go first. So, covet as I might, a new *ist D is very probably not on my buy list this year! No way I can justify an outlay like that for a third digital camera... On the other hand, an Optio-S (that'll be my digital #2) surely IS! big grin · keith whaley · A retired gent who is still a serious amateur photog and Pentax lover, but with relatively limited discretionary money. zoomshot wrote: So, how many of you merry people are going to get an *ist-D and if not why not? To start the ball rolling you can count me as a taker. Ziggy
Re: Hands up and be counted
Ziggy wrote: So, how many of you merry people are going to get an *ist-D and if not why not? I won't buy it for the following reasons: - It is just a Nikon F80 with K-mount. The F80 has never tempted me the slightest. - It will be outdated in six months. - It will be too expensive as long as it cost more than $1000. - Low resolution images. - Too expensive: I have to update all my computer equipment and buy lots of paraphernalia to have any pleasure out of it. - At present no lenses that take advantage of the small image circle. When they come, I might be tempted by the follow up(s) of the *ist D. - I find it to be a deeply derivative and unimaginable camera. I think this is going to backfire; people who want a Nikon F80 or a D100 are probably going to buy the real thing. Pål
RE: *ist D ISO range
I know what you mean, can't wait for the weekend to get here. I hope that ISO 100 - ISO 1000 is covered and that we don't get a lot of noise on ISO 800 Ziggy -Original Message- From: Rob Brigham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 February 2003 16:17 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: *ist D ISO range I think it will be the range of available ISO speeds that you can set on the camera. Sorry, couldn't resist - its been a long day!
RE: Hands up and be counted
-Original Message- From: zoomshot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] So, how many of you merry people are going to get an *ist-D and if not why not? Undecided. I won't use it professionally (res too low compared to what I use now), and I'm not sure I'd want or need it for personal use. I'll be going digital at some point, and it would be nice if I could ease into it. I could buy this, figure out my workflow, then buy whatever is next. The problem is that what is next might not be so great, and other solutions are available now, unfortunately from other companies. So, I'm still mulling it over. tv
Re: K lens values in the wake of D *ist
It would also be amusing to see an M37 asahiflex lens on a *ist digital. I believe there were M37 - M42 adapters which could then be mounted in an M42 - K mount adapter. Paul Ewins Melbourne, Australia Hard to find. Still looking for one after years of semi-intensive searching. Andre --
