I saw an istD
Yes, it's finally here! (Romania, btw). At 2000 euros (add 19%VAT) is not cheap, but comparable with the 10D. Unfortunately, I've only saw - not buy - it. I need 2380 euro more before I can have it. :( After I held the camera in my hands, this is what I thought: - first, the *istD is tiny. The grip is not so big, and I would prefer a taller camera. I bet with the grip the camera will feel much better - it seems quite solid, but nowhere near the heavy metal feel I'd like. Slightly better than my MZ-6. - the wheels are nice, easy to turn. I like them. The film *ist is a disaster. - the viewfinder doesn't look bigger than on my MZ-6, but it's clearbright. Hey, I could focus manually with the 18-35! With the MZ-6 MF is difficult for me, even with the 50mm f/1.7. I cannot say anything about AF, menusstuff; I could ask the clerk to put some batteries inside, but as I knew I won't buy it... I also don't have any CF card, as I'd really like to know if it's that hard to take out from the *istD (just a thought: there is enough space to grab it on topbottom, instead of sides? But I don't really believe I'm the first to think at this), and if there are any AF problems. However, now I understand why you like the *istD so much. And I feel miserable, as I don't have one. Alex Sarbu --- Acasa.ro vine cu albumele, tu vino doar cu pozele ;) http://poze.acasa.ro/
Re: Zooms
The Tamron SP 28-75/2.8 is said to be optically excellent. The Japanese Capa magazine also tested it better than the Tokina on light-fall-off, wide open sharpness and flare control. The best thing is it costs $320 only. Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan From: Bucky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax Peepl [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Zooms Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:22:35 -0800 OK, so my Tokina 28-80 ATX Pro is a bit soft and big and heavy for the *ist D. Are any of the Pentax zooms in that range (with the exception of the FA* 28-70 f/2.8, which I cannot afford at present) particular standouts? _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcommpgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
Re: I really like the MZ-S!
on 11.11.03 18:05, Mark Erickson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Remember the good old days when the 67 brotherhood dominated the list and we all longed for the new flagship? I went out shooting a night-time project last night with my MZ-S and I have to say that I really, really like it. I like pretty much everything about it. I've been getting really nice results with it lately and am really happy with the user interface. Well, I like it too. It just makes me wanting to go out and take photos - very intuitive and it has JUST right set of features to feel free to take almost every kind of photos. It's just pity we couldn't see Pentax DSLR with this kind of classic interface and full K compatibility. Anyway after a few days of *istD testing I came back to my trusty MZ-S and just feel better with it. I just wasn't impresed with *istD except for the fact that it was digital. I hope that film sticks around for a while. I am sure it will. There are billions of film cameras around, it is not easy to convince people to trash'em all at once. And I still can't see any alternative for slides, of course for these, who like slides projecting. -- Best Regards Sylwek
Re: Zooms
on 12.11.03 3:22, Bucky at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, so my Tokina 28-80 ATX Pro is a bit soft and big and heavy for the *ist D. Are any of the Pentax zooms in that range (with the exception of the FA* 28-70 f/2.8, which I cannot afford at present) particular standouts? FA 24-90/3.5-4.5 looks like a good addition to *istD, but of course it is not as bright as Tokina. -- Pozdrowienia Sylwek
MZ-S frame overlap (was Re: And now: the *ist D vs. the EOS 300D!)
Hi, John F wrote: They came out with a firmware upgrade for the MZ-S fairly fast (to fix the frame-overlapping problem). To Pentax's credit, they fixed this before retail production started. Anyone who had this problem had probably been sold a beta tester. mike
Re: And now: the *ist D vs. the EOS 300D! (And my little Sony PS)
Hi John, on 12 Nov 03 you wrote in pentax.list: Actually Sony *are* the big brand when it comes to digital cameras and technology. Not only do they sell a lot under their own name, they also make the sensors used in a lot of cameras sold under very different, but well-known brand names. E.g. Pentax: The *istD's CCD is made by Sony. The Nikon D100 uses the same. Cheers, Heiko
Re: Wide angles for *ist D
Hi Cotty, on 11 Nov 03 you wrote in pentax.list: here made experiences with the Sigma wide angles (17-35, 15-30 or the new 12-14)? Heiko, I have the Sigma EX 14mm 2.8 and use it on my D60, giving an effective focal length of 22.4mm. On an *ist D it should work out to about 21mm. That's a good hint. Maybe I was focused on wide angle zooms, too much. It is a large lens with lots of glass, the front element is weird - a huge spherical block of ice peering out from a built-in lens hood. Remember Hal? He's here. Ohoh... I will have to put that set into a closet in order to prevent any paranoid developments... ... Otherwise, it is a good performer and considering that you won't be using the edges on an APS DSLR - typically the worst part of the frame in terms of performance - then things aren't too bad at all. It is pricey (UK about 6 to 700 quid new) but they can be found on eBay. I have never seen one on eBay Germany (but I did never search one there ;-)). Let's see if I can find one. But the price is quite high - you're right. I use it frequently for landscape and street. It is plenty wide for me which is a good thing - to go wider on an APS DSLR is near impossible. There will be this Sigma 12-24 with 122° angle of view. They say that it will work on a 35mm SLR, too. I can't imagine how that could work - seems to be against all physics. Personally, with a Pentax I would go for the A 15mm 3.5. I have an eye on them at eBay. Sometimes you can get one at 450-500 Euro - that would be about the same as the Sigma EX14. So it comes to a trade-off: SMC without AF or AF without SMC. At the moment I would go for the Pentax, too. Cheers and thanks, Heiko
Re: istD Histogram display
Hi Herb, on 11 Nov 03 you wrote in pentax.list: i have had the Sigma 15-30 for over a year. i haven't taken any pictures with it yet on the *ist D, just looked through the viewfinder. It would be nive to hear of your experiences with this lens on the *istD. it is a bulky lens and moderately heavy with good performance, better than entry level for sure. That sounds good - especially as the APS-DSLR doesn't use the problematic edges of a wide angle lens. it's not as good as the 24-90 though. So you like the 24-90 on the *istD? I'm using the 28-105PZ which is fabulous on my MZ-5n, but I'm still not convinced that it works as well on my *istD. I am thinking about getting a 24-90 as it might be a better performer an it is lighter. Maybe the 24-90 was even constructed for a DSLR: it should have been the standard lens for MZ-S _and_ the cancelled MZ-D. Who knows... while experimenting is that removing the cap portion of the two piece lens cover doesn't vignette and so i can put thin 82mm filters on the lens. I know what you mean - sounds very good! Cheers, Heiko
Re: MZ-S frame overlap (was Re: And now: the *ist D vs. the EOS 300D!)
Seems odd. One of mine - bought in the retail channel from BH had the problem. I seriously doubt that it was a beta tester. It was packaged and sold as new by a reputable dealer. The problem was posted on the Pentax website with serial #'s and a way to test if your camera was affected. This doesn't come across as being fixed before retail production. Perhaps this was the case in your country handled by your importer, but was not a worldwide case. Production models were shipped to the US at least with this firmware problem. It was fixed early in production because the second MZ-S that I purchased did not have this problem. It was purchased 4-6 months after the first one. -- Best regards, Bruce Wednesday, November 12, 2003, 1:54:04 AM, you wrote: mw Hi, mw John F wrote: They came out with a firmware upgrade for the MZ-S fairly fast (to fix the frame-overlapping problem). mw To Pentax's credit, they fixed this before retail production started. mw Anyone who had this problem had probably been sold a beta tester. mw mike
Re: How to tell clear glass from UV glass?
When I was in grad school studying biochemistry years ago, we used normal glass tubes for regular visible spectrophotometry, but quartz tubes (much higher priced) for UV spectrophotometry. The quartz passed much more UV than regular glass, but I don't know how much it absorbed. -Lon Wm. Robb wrote: Isn't all glass UV opaque to a great extent?
Re: I saw an istD
Hi Alex, Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu wrote: Yes, it's finally here! (Romania, btw). At 2000 euros (add 19%VAT) is not cheap, but comparable with the 10D. Unfortunately, I've only saw - not buy - it. I need 2380 euro more before I can have it. :( After I held the camera in my hands, this is what I thought: - first, the *istD is tiny. The grip is not so big, and I would prefer a taller camera. I bet with the grip the camera will feel much better - it seems quite solid, but nowhere near the heavy metal feel I'd like. Have you ever held an Olympus C-5050 digital? That camera has a very sturdy feel, for a small camera... keith whaley Slightly better than my MZ-6. - the wheels are nice, easy to turn. I like them. The film *ist is a disaster. - the viewfinder doesn't look bigger than on my MZ-6, but it's clearbright. Hey, I could focus manually with the 18-35! With the MZ-6 MF is difficult for me, even with the 50mm f/1.7. I cannot say anything about AF, menus stuff; I could ask the clerk to put some batteries inside, but as I knew I won't buy it... I also don't have any CF card, as I'd really like to know if it's that hard to take out from the *istD (just a thought: there is enough space to grab it on topbottom, instead of sides? But I don't really believe I'm the first to think at this), and if there are any AF problems. However, now I understand why you like the *istD so much. And I feel miserable, as I don't have one. Alex Sarbu
Re: *ist D aftermath
no. no. yes. don't know. sure. CW - Original Message - From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 10:55 PM Subject: *ist D aftermath So, big question to all *istD owners: After having purchased and used your new DSLR, are there any of you who now have second thoughts? Perhaps wishing you had gone the Canon or Nikon route instead? Given the opportunity to do it again, would you still purchase the *istD? Even further, would you recommend it above other choices to someone else who doesn't have any investment in Pentax Glass? Obviously for me, I have a stray zoom or two (28-80 Tamron, 80-320 Pentax) and an AF280T, 2 AF400T's and a bunch of 67 glass. Other than that, I am free to choose any direction. So, is the *istD the right choice? Thanks for your thoughts. -- Bruce --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.538 / Virus Database: 333 - Release Date: 11/10/2003
Re: istD Histogram display
for the film cameras, if i have to take one lens and only one, it's almost always the 24-90. if i can take two, it is the 24-90 and the FA* 24 f2.0. i then use the 24 most of the time. the 15-30 is bulky enough that for the *ist D, i still end up taking the 24-90 and the 24 as my first and second choices. if i have the room, then i add the 15-30. it's large and heavy enough to give me pause, although not as heavy as the FA* 28-70 f2.8. the other reason is that i don't yet have an 82mm circular polarizer for the lens and so that makes it less useful to me on normal landscape shots. i want the haze/reflection reduction and increased saturation that comes about with a polarizing filter. if i end up getting the Sigma 12-24, i expect to carry it more often assuming i can do the same trick with the lens cover and a filter. if i can't, i probably will just stay with the 15-30. the Sigma 14 is sounding more and more attractive. Herb - Original Message - From: Heiko Hamann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 4:53 AM Subject: Re: istD Histogram display So you like the 24-90 on the *istD? I'm using the 28-105PZ which is fabulous on my MZ-5n, but I'm still not convinced that it works as well on my *istD. I am thinking about getting a 24-90 as it might be a better performer an it is lighter. Maybe the 24-90 was even constructed for a DSLR: it should have been the standard lens for MZ-S _and_ the cancelled MZ-D. Who knows...
Re: istD Histogram display
On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:46:45 -0500, Herb Chong wrote: i have the auto review turned off. i review only when i think there might be a problem. since that doesn't happen very often, i save battery power by not having it on except when i need it. Herb, Are you using the CR-V3 batteries? I have image preview turned off as well and I am up to 1100 images and the battery display still shows full power. I have a set of NiMH batteries ready to go but I don't know if I'll ever get a chance to use them as it looks like these lithiums aren't planning to stop. Leon http://www.bluering.org.au http://www.bluering.org.au/leon
RE: istD Histogram display
I would stick the liths in you pack/car as an emergency backup - their charge lasts 10 years(ish), and get onto the nimh batts now. -Original Message- From: Leon Altoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 November 2003 11:50 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: istD Histogram display On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:46:45 -0500, Herb Chong wrote: i have the auto review turned off. i review only when i think there might be a problem. since that doesn't happen very often, i save battery power by not having it on except when i need it. Herb, Are you using the CR-V3 batteries? I have image preview turned off as well and I am up to 1100 images and the battery display still shows full power. I have a set of NiMH batteries ready to go but I don't know if I'll ever get a chance to use them as it looks like these lithiums aren't planning to stop. Leon http://www.bluering.org.au http://www.bluering.org.au/leon
OT: source of Beseler Spares
Hi Guys, Does anybody know of a retailer that sells Beseler spares? Ideally somebody who knows how to use email andoesn't mind shipping internationally. I need a new O ring for the 35mm negatrans which came with my recently acquired 45M (thanks again Rob S for the tip!). There doesn't seem to be anybody in Australia who is a Beseler agent, and I can't find an email address on the Beseler website to ask them!!! BTW, if anybody has a 120 negatrans that they wish to sell or a spare lens board please email me Thanks, Paul Ewins Melbourne, Australia
Re: on the topic of Frankencameras..
Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11 Nov 2003 at 17:48, William Robb wrote: I expect this is why it's another non first for Pentax. It's only at that price point because it has Leica printed on it, it will probably be made in Portugal too. I'll bet it never ends up b3ing made anywhere - at least not in production. I'll be surprised if a working prototype is ever shown. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Wide angles for *ist D
This article might be of interest: http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/lenses/14-vs-16.shtml -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: I really like the MZ-S!
Me too. RE: Autofocus sensor, I'm a focus and reocmpose kinda guy. And, to be honest, I've gone back to MF most of the time. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: on the topic of Frankencameras..
On 12 Nov 2003 at 7:33, Mark Roberts wrote: I'll bet it never ends up b3ing made anywhere - at least not in production. I'll be surprised if a working prototype is ever shown. I'm not convinced either however Leica have a well founded history of actually listening and servicing their customers. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: AF360FGZ Question
It just seems to me that the timing between the two flashes is just about perfect to result in pictures of people with their eyes closed. Has anyone noticed that besides me? Len --- * There's no place like 127.0.0.1 If you use a non A lens it reverts to TTL. The double flash can be a pain in some circumstances but it gives far better exposure accuracy than TTL. Leon _ Compare high-speed Internet plans, starting at $26.95. https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.)
wide angles for 35mm
Hi everybody! I had the opportunity to use a 17-35/2.8 L over the weekend. And now I'm hooked. Is the difference between 17mm and 20mm worth going to a 3rd party lens and do any of you have any suggestions (of lenses you own or owned). I'm not a landscape kind of person. I was using the zoom primarily in a busy kitchen, with flash. I guess another question is that knowing my flash's limitation of 20mm (360FGZ) should I stick to 20-35/4? I also like the option of the fast sigma 20/1.8; any comments? I seriously doubt I'll be jumping to digital anytime soon. I played with a Nikon D100 at the same time and boy did that 1.6x crop really stink. (I still haven't tried the *istD) Thanks, Daich
Re: Wide angles for *ist D
On 12/11/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: Heiko, I have the Sigma EX 14mm 2.8 and use it on my D60, giving an effective focal length of 22.4mm. On an *ist D it should work out to about 21mm. That's a good hint. Maybe I was focused on wide angle zooms, too much. Ah, zooms. I never considered a wide zoom when I wanted my wide angle. I'm not sure why. I had a play with a 15-30 or something like that and to be honest I couldn't see the point of the zooming range. I figure if you're going to be wide and want to zoom in a bit, just move forward instead! The thing with wide zooms that goes against the grain with me is that it instills laziness. With a tele zoom, you can cover a lot of ground without moving a foot, much more than you could if you had to walk to get the right shot with a prime tele. I can understand using medium wide mostly, and then not being wide enough and needing to zoom out as wide as possible (say, shooting a group in a confined space / small room etc). But if you had the big wide already, you could simply move forward to frame if you were too far back. That's my twisted thinking anyway. Plus there's a part of me that still thinks a prime lens has got to be better than a zoom. I'm not sure how true that is in this day and age Personally, with a Pentax I would go for the A 15mm 3.5. I have an eye on them at eBay. Sometimes you can get one at 450-500 Euro - that would be about the same as the Sigma EX14. So it comes to a trade-off: SMC without AF or AF without SMC. At the moment I would go for the Pentax, too. As you know, I'm a manual focus guy. I do us the AF on my AF lenses sometimes, though rarely. Mostly on the 70-200 with my lad's football or whatever. I personally think AF on 14mm lens is a complete and utter waste of time and I never have it switched on. Why? The depth of field at this focal length renders focus almost academic. Certainly with landscapes. I set for good depth of field and let it go. I have not been disappointed. My focal length choice (he rambled on) has settled well over the years and I now have the right combination for me. I'll use 35mm equivalent here: Primes 22mm - wide for landscapes and street. 38mm macro - street and portraiture 80mm - portraits Zooms 44-112mm - street, general use, walkabout, only one lens 112-320mm - landscape, people, sport, everything else + 1.4 TC if needed. I have it all covered in 5 lenses. I seriously can't think of anything I don't do with that lot. I don't do wildlife (ha!) so I'm not into big glass. Okay, maybe a 100mm macro might be nice but I don't do the macro work to justify it. Besides a 38mm in macro (24mm EX macro) is a very interesting focal length for a macro and it's superb on faces! Sorry to ramble on. Good luck with your wide quest Heiko. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re[2]: AF360FGZ Question
P-TTL can have that effect on people who are prone to blink. Not only does the first flash seem to signal for them to blink, but I have found sound can also cause it. When using leaf shutter lenses on my 67, the focal plane shutter opens first, which causes a noise, then the leaf shutter and flash fire. Seems that blinkers will blink from a flash or the sound of the shutter. Bruce Wednesday, November 12, 2003, 6:33:13 AM, you wrote: LP It just seems to me that the timing between the two flashes is just about LP perfect to result in pictures of people with their eyes closed. Has anyone LP noticed that besides me? LP Len LP --- LP * There's no place like 127.0.0.1 If you use a non A lens it reverts to TTL. The double flash can be a pain in some circumstances but it gives far better exposure accuracy than TTL. Leon LP _ LP Compare high-speed Internet plans, starting at $26.95. LP https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.)
RE: wide angles for 35mm
-Original Message- From: Daichi Saeki (QA/EMC) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi everybody! Hi. I had the opportunity to use a 17-35/2.8 L over the weekend. And now I'm hooked. Is the difference between 17mm and 20mm worth going to a 3rd party lens and do any of you have any suggestions (of lenses you own or owned). I'm not a landscape kind of person. I was using the zoom primarily in a busy kitchen, with flash. I guess another question is that knowing my flash's limitation of 20mm (360FGZ) should I stick to 20-35/4? No, there are several ways to get around this. Indoors you can just use bounce off the ceiling or use a diffuser. tv
Re: AF360FGZ Question
- Original Message - From: Leonard Paris Subject: Re: AF360FGZ Question It just seems to me that the timing between the two flashes is just about perfect to result in pictures of people with their eyes closed. Has anyone noticed that besides me? Happens with flash based red-eye reduction as well. I think what they have in mind is that if the subjects eyes are closed, there is no red eye. William Robb
Re: on the topic of Frankencameras..
Rob wrote: RS I'm not convinced either however Leica have a well founded history of actually RS listening and servicing their customers. Point to Leica and aim to Pentax. ;o) Servus, Alin
Re: DCPDML warning.
When I saw the subject, I thought you were alerting us to some terror warning. I'd be up for getting together, maybe next week. Have you heard from anyone else in DC? Geoff I am taking a trip north this week. I will be in Maryland the 13th, 17th, 18th, and 19th. There is a chance I will be busy the 19th. Have rental car, will travel. Hope we can get some of the DCPDML, and anyone else, together while I am up there. Ciao, César Panama City, Florida
Re: *ist D aftermath
- Original Message - From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] So, big question to all *istD owners: After having purchased and used your new DSLR, are there any of you who now have second thoughts? Perhaps wishing you had gone the Canon or Nikon route instead? Given the opportunity to do it again, would you still purchase the *istD? No second thoughts. I think it's a great camera that suits my needs. I've had a few prints made (8x12 or so) and the quality is at a level that I want. I'd still go with the ist-D for the SMC glass. Even further, would you recommend it above other choices to someone else who doesn't have any investment in Pentax Glass? For the price, no. Canon is cheaper to get into now with the rebel D, has upgrade potential to 10D and gasp 1Ds. also they offer USM and IS lenses. I played briefly with a Nikon D100 and thought its viewfinder was crap. Obviously for me, I have a stray zoom or two (28-80 Tamron, 80-320 Pentax) and an AF280T, 2 AF400T's and a bunch of 67 glass. Other than that, I am free to choose any direction. So, is the *istD the right choice? The only way to know is a side-by-side in-store comparison with whatever competition interests you. Thanks for your thoughts. -- Bruce No problem, Christian
Re: MZ-S frame overlap
Hi, Bruce D wrote: Seems odd. One of mine - bought in the retail channel from BH had the problem. I seriously doubt that it was a beta tester. It was packaged and sold as new by a reputable dealer. The problem was posted on the Pentax website with serial #'s and a way to test if your camera was affected. This doesn't come across as being fixed before retail production. Perhaps this was the case in your country handled by your importer, but was not a worldwide case. Production models were shipped to the US at least with this firmware problem. It was fixed early in production because the second MZ-S that I purchased did not have this problem. It was purchased 4-6 months after the first one. pdmq That's why I wrote probably. I was certain that it was fixed in the European and Asian markets but not sure about worldwide. It was certainly known about well before production models began appearing anywhere. /pdmq mike
Re: FA 20-35 on *istD
Just played with it briefly. Shot comparable pictures with it and the FAJ 18-35 at the widest end. With the sun inside the frame, the FA20-35 flared considerably less, and had less glare. The difference in AOV between 18 and 20 mm was minimal. Jostein - Pictures at: http://oksne.net - - Original Message - From: Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 6:06 PM Subject: FA 20-35 on *istD Has anyone tried the above lens on the *ist D? I know this may have been said, but I could have missed it in the flurry of recent *ist posts. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Batteries, was Re: istD Histogram display
The use of AA's was one of the selling points for me. I already had about 5 sets of batteries and 2 chargers. However, I recently picked up one of the new Ray-O-Vac 15 minute chargers and 6 batteries for it. I saw those advertised, but my local store only had the 1-hour chargers. Still, I reckoned that was probably good enough; I can recharge a set of batteries while I'm out using up the first set. What's the capacity of the 15-minute cells? I've got mostly 1800 mAh for my one-hours, although I've also got several 1600s lying around for the cordless phones, wireless mousen, etc. At present I still carry regular disposable batteries as well for use in the FTZ500 (and the MZ-S battery grip). If I could find the documentation I'd see if I can use NiMh rechargeables there, too - does anybody know? I already have far too many different kinds of batteries, anyway. There are the button cells for the MX Super Program, the 2CR5 for the PZ-1p, the regular MZ-S batteries, and all the various little cells for the data backs, the *ist-D, etc. I definitely liked the fact that the *ist-D would run on AAs, especially since I went for microdrives as storage.
Re: *ist D aftermath
On 12/11/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: 3 - Over time I have changed all my lenses to AF and picked-up what I would call the pro stuff so results have met all my expectations. Ah, er, I mean, erm Doesn't have the same connotations on this side of the pond :-) In the UK, the word pro is roughly synonymous to the US hooker (another trivia question: why 'hooker'?)
Re: Publishing and digital photos
På 11. nov. 2003 kl. 21.27 skrev wendy beard: Someone on one of the mailing lists I'm on needed photographs for one of the chapters in her soon to be published book. One of the stipulations from the publisher was that they were not to be digital photographs as they didn't reproduce well. Anyone heard of such a thing? It certainly surprised me to hear it. Is it ~that~ obvious if a photograph is digital? If I took a file down to my local photolab and got them to print up an 8x10, is anyone going to know that it wasn't from film? Hot Air, misinformation or what? Some publishers still do not want files, especially not from digital cameras. From what I´ve heard there are several reasons: Some surface structures are subject to moire, they have seen too many pictures ruined because they were made with low resolution cameras and they have seen some very bad scanning through the years. They do not want to find this out too late in the printing process, even most of the problems have been solved with new equipment. DagT
Re: How to tell clear glass from UV glass?
They do. I got one with my 600mm FA. On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 19:17:59 -0500, Andre Langevin wrote: 150mm for 4/600 and 8/1200 The 150mm is EUR 549 - which is reasonable, compared to the price of the lenses it fits... Sven For what these lenses cost, Pentax should give it with the lens. Am I naive? Andre -- Ken Waller PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: Batteries, was Re: istD Histogram display
I saw those advertised, but my local store only had the 1-hour chargers. Still, I reckoned that was probably good enough; I can recharge a set of batteries while I'm out using up the first set. What's the capacity of the 15-minute cells? I've got mostly 1800 mAh for my one-hours, although I've also got several 1600s lying around for the cordless phones, wireless mousen, etc. The 15 minute cells are 2000 mAh. I also have some cell ranging from 1500-1800 mAh that I use in either the 1 hour charger, or the Pentax charger (which only does slow charges). It's interesting that with the 15 minute cells, a cooling fan runs in the charger. With any other cells, it's a 7-8 hour charge with no cooling fan running. Evidently there's something in the 15 minute cells that the charger reads to turn on the fan Does anyone know how long charged NiMh cells can be stored in a charged state before they discharge enough to require a recharge? At present I still carry regular disposable batteries as well for use in the FTZ500 (and the MZ-S battery grip). If I could find the documentation I'd see if I can use NiMh rechargeables there, too - does anybody know? I don't know about the BG-10 grip, but I do use NiMh in the 360FGZ Bill
Re: Batteries, was Re: istD Histogram display
BTW, I also have a 400 watt inverter that I can use with the chargers as well as the laptop and printer while I'm in the field. Bill - Original Message - From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 1:23 PM Subject: Re: Batteries, was Re: istD Histogram display The use of AA's was one of the selling points for me. I already had about 5 sets of batteries and 2 chargers. However, I recently picked up one of the new Ray-O-Vac 15 minute chargers and 6 batteries for it. I saw those advertised, but my local store only had the 1-hour chargers. Still, I reckoned that was probably good enough; I can recharge a set of batteries while I'm out using up the first set. What's the capacity of the 15-minute cells? I've got mostly 1800 mAh for my one-hours, although I've also got several 1600s lying around for the cordless phones, wireless mousen, etc. At present I still carry regular disposable batteries as well for use in the FTZ500 (and the MZ-S battery grip). If I could find the documentation I'd see if I can use NiMh rechargeables there, too - does anybody know? I already have far too many different kinds of batteries, anyway. There are the button cells for the MX Super Program, the 2CR5 for the PZ-1p, the regular MZ-S batteries, and all the various little cells for the data backs, the *ist-D, etc. I definitely liked the fact that the *ist-D would run on AAs, especially since I went for microdrives as storage.
Re: *ist D aftermath
IIRC the term hooker for prostitutes came about because of the camp followers of US War of Northern Aggression general Hooker. Bill - Original Message - From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 1:26 PM Subject: Re: *ist D aftermath On 12/11/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: 3 - Over time I have changed all my lenses to AF and picked-up what I would call the pro stuff so results have met all my expectations. Ah, er, I mean, erm Doesn't have the same connotations on this side of the pond :-) In the UK, the word pro is roughly synonymous to the US hooker (another trivia question: why 'hooker'?)
Re: DCPDML warning.
Cesar Matamoros II wrote: I will be in Maryland the 13th, 17th, 18th, and 19th. There is a chance I will be busy the 19th. Have rental car, will travel. Hope we can get some of the DCPDML, and anyone else, together while I am up there. I'm probably good for some Dogfish on the 17th, 18th, or 19th. You gonna make it this time, tv? ;-)
Re: AF360FGZ Question
It happens to me too. I think Pentax got it just right to achieve closed eyes effect when using P-TTL. OTOH, it seem as well that after two or three consecutive shots taken in P-TTL closed eyes don't appear so often on the following shots. Looks to me that eyes get so used to the flashing that they don't react anymore. Eyes get bored after a while I guess. g. Matjaz It just seems to me that the timing between the two flashes is just about perfect to result in pictures of people with their eyes closed. Has anyone noticed that besides me? Len --- * There's no place like 127.0.0.1
Re: *ist D aftermath
Because everyone really wants to live in Oklahoma. Hooker, Oklahoma, that is. One swimmin' pool (I think), no movie stars (that I know of). CRB Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 13:26:52 -0500 (EST) From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] (another trivia question: why 'hooker'?)
Re: And now: the *ist D vs. the EOS 300D!
I wrote to PhaseOne and asked if they had plans to support raw files from other makes than Canon and Nikon, and Pentax in particular. All I got back was a vague message about them looking at several brands at the moment. Jostein - Pictures at: http://oksne.net - - Original Message - From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 5:02 AM Subject: Re: And now: the *ist D vs. the EOS 300D! The big question is, with Pentax's track record for releasing anything, will they actually get around to releasing upgraded firmware and software? Depends on how serious they perceive the problem to be, I expect. They came out with a firmware upgrade for the MZ-S fairly fast (to fix the frame-overlapping problem). As far as RAW conversion goes, I would expect that we'd have better luck with some third-party image conversion package or plugin.
New Pentax SMC-DA 3.5-4.5/15-26
Hallo and now the good use, the lens is already there. How to get a Wide Angle Zoom Pentax smc-DA 3.5-4.5/15-26 out of the F 3.5-4.5/17-28 Fisheye-Zoom with PTLens Here a detailled explaination with pictures (sorry, up to now only in German, but you can look at the pictures) http://www.mycroft.de/dptlens.htm An here you can see the result http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1028message=6639063 Now the links for the installation: Install PTLens from http://epaperpress.com/ptlens/index.html Expand PTLens with the following files: Copy the Lens-Data from http://www.mycroft.de/dptlens.htm into pentax_profile.txt Here are pictures, done with the Fisheye-Zoom on the *ist D with EFIX-Data: http://www.bekkoame.ne.jp/~sight2/photo/lenz/fisheyezoom.html Now, get PTLens and the pictures and test it. regards Rüdiger
Re: OT: CLA + Rocky Bullwinkle
Extra brownie points for the correct answer; what was Natasha's last name? Fatale. Brownie points hereby awarded. Butch Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself. Hermann Hesse (Demian)
Re: Batteries, was Re: istD Histogram display
Have seen statements suggesting NiMh batteries lose 1%-2% of their charge a day. Can't remember how good the source was. Maybe someone else has more accurate numbers. Otis Wright Bill Owens wrote: I saw those advertised, but my local store only had the 1-hour chargers. Still, I reckoned that was probably good enough; I can recharge a set of batteries while I'm out using up the first set. What's the capacity of the 15-minute cells? I've got mostly 1800 mAh for my one-hours, although I've also got several 1600s lying around for the cordless phones, wireless mousen, etc. The 15 minute cells are 2000 mAh. I also have some cell ranging from 1500-1800 mAh that I use in either the 1 hour charger, or the Pentax charger (which only does slow charges). It's interesting that with the 15 minute cells, a cooling fan runs in the charger. With any other cells, it's a 7-8 hour charge with no cooling fan running. Evidently there's something in the 15 minute cells that the charger reads to turn on the fan Does anyone know how long charged NiMh cells can be stored in a charged state before they discharge enough to require a recharge? At present I still carry regular disposable batteries as well for use in the FTZ500 (and the MZ-S battery grip). If I could find the documentation I'd see if I can use NiMh rechargeables there, too - does anybody know? I don't know about the BG-10 grip, but I do use NiMh in the 360FGZ Bill
Re: *ist D aftermath
On 12/11/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: 3 - Over time I have changed all my lenses to AF and picked-up what I would call the pro stuff so results have met all my expectations. Ah, er, I mean, erm Doesn't have the same connotations on this side of the pond :-) In the UK, the word pro is roughly synonymous to the US hooker (another trivia question: why 'hooker'?) Major General Joseph Hooker was head of the Army of the Potomac during the American civil war. A large group of courtesans traveled with the army and got dubbed Hooker's girls, eventually shortened to hookers. Butch Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself. Hermann Hesse (Demian)
Re: Batteries, was Re: istD Histogram display
Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This reminds me of Michael Reichman's gripe about using AA batteries and having to carry a charger if you used NiMh batteries. He prefers a proprietary rechargeable. I thought that part of his review was really bizarre. The multiple power supply options are one of the things that Pentax really did right, IMHO. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Pentax marketing (was Re: What is the high-end Pentax lens strategy????)
I had a word with a salesman at the Norwegian distributor about the Pentax marketing strategy. I mentioned the sexist fuss from Sweden and California, and pointed at the Optio 550 promo on the wall. He just shook his head and smiled in a kinda sad way. Then he went to a shelf with other leaflets and pulled out one for the MZ-S. You know, he said. When this came out, they were accused of racism, pointing at a picture of the left half of a coloured, bald man of huge muscles juxtaposed with the right half of a MZ-S in top view. As with the *istD, the picture itself wasn't too bad, but the text that went with it was. Can't find any references to it on the web either...:-( Then I asked who was doing the marketing strategy for Pentax. You won't believe it, he said, and he was right. There are four young German women who run the whole campaign. We met them at Photokina 2002. They got into the picture after photokina 2000, and blamed Pentax for not targetting their real market with their ultra-traditional and un-trendy marketing. They introduced a style that, in their own eyes, would be better suited to the younger generation and more in line with modern marketing. I asked permission to quote him to this list and was granted. I guess Bob Walkden was pretty much right in guessing them being post-modern and ironic and us too unsophisticated to have noticed... - Pictures at: http://oksne.net - - Original Message - From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 9:55 PM Subject: Re: What is the high-end Pentax lens strategy Hi William Robb wrote: I don't think Pentax themselves has any idea of what they have planned for the future. I have never seen a company drift so aimlessy as Pentax, and still manage to stay afloat. I don't think you need to go past the eighth word of the first sentence. Fancy a company in this day and age naming a product line *-anything. Try to search for *ist and see how many thousands of pages you get. Unbelievable incompetence. Some unpleasant Japanese traditions need reviving in the marketing department. mike
Re: Publishing and digital photos
Weired story, Wendy. OTOH, a renowned nature photographer in Norway had an article coming up in a German photo mag, and the editor asked him for a slide. As the guy works with digital, he said he could send the raw file if they wanted. But alas, the mag wanted slides and slides only, so he ended up making slides from the digital files for them to scan... Go figure...:-) Both yours and his story sounds to me like lack of competence at the publisher's. Jostein oh, btw, here's the photographer's website. He's a complete Nikonoid. http://www.naturfotograf.com/ - Pictures at: http://oksne.net - - Original Message - From: wendy beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pdml [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 9:27 PM Subject: Publishing and digital photos Someone on one of the mailing lists I'm on needed photographs for one of the chapters in her soon to be published book. One of the stipulations from the publisher was that they were not to be digital photographs as they didn't reproduce well. Anyone heard of such a thing? It certainly surprised me to hear it. Is it ~that~ obvious if a photograph is digital? If I took a file down to my local photolab and got them to print up an 8x10, is anyone going to know that it wasn't from film? Hot Air, misinformation or what? wendy beard ottawa, canada http://www.beard-redfern.com
Re: How to tell clear glass from UV glass?
You know, I am going to take back what I said. (...) I can't really say that I *have* tried long distance shots with a SMC lens without a UV filter and then with one. It's quite possible the SMC coating does work like a UV filter. Marnie aka Doe Fine... That will save me the weight of a few filters in my fannypack... You think about that over 10,000 feet... On Super-Takumar lenses, though, UV filters might well prove usefull. Andre --
Re: And now: the *ist D vs. the EOS 300D!
Excellent Bill. I would like to add that all designs are trade offs. To get one thing, you have to give up something else. Pentax mostly has, since I've been using them (1961), balanced things to the best look in the final print. Unfortunately, many manufactures seem to balance things for the best magazine test reports (good marketing). In many cases this is subtle in others it is obvious. I sometimes think Pentax developed Super Multi Coating (And SMC is still the very best coating system out there) because balancing things for smoothness tended to trade off contrast, SMC restores much of that lost contrast. In test reports Pentax glass often does not look that good. Yet most serious photographers who use Pentax when asked why will reply, It's the glass. The thing that made me comment in this thread originally was someone else's comment that the ist-D seems to be setup for best print quality, not best computer screen image. As I said, that does not surprise me. -- William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am just curious how you (and Graywolf and whoever) would describe the Pentax look. How you would describe its picture quality as, say, contrasted to Canon's. (Film and/or digital.) Lens design is fraught with compromise. There is no such thing as the perfect lens. There are, I believe, six major distortions, some of which can only be corrected at the expense of others. So, you may be able to design a perfectly rectilinear lens, but you may also get uncorectable chromatic aberation, as an example. Lens designers, therefore, have to make decisions about what to correct, and what to compromise, and then to try to make an entire family of lenses with the same look. Some company's design philosophy is to have the highest resolution possible, others for the highest contrast, but this sort of philosphy tends to forsake other criteria. Others try to strike a balance between as many aberations as possible. When I was making the decision about which lens system I wanted to use, I tried Nikon and Olympus, and had close access to Canon, Leica, Pentax and Contax. Leica and Contax were out of my price range. This, unfortunately, is too often the first compromise made. Olympus had nice lenses. Really nice lenses. The camera bodies were small and fiddly though. I never really fell in love with the Nikon lenses that I used. I had a very nice 50mm f/1.4 Nikkor which I thought was excellent. A 28mm f/3.5 that was decidely humdrum. A 24mm with visible barrel distortion and quite a bit of darkening in the corners, and a 200mm f/4 that was like the 28mm. it was there, but I could never find anything kinder to say about it. In fact, of the pictures that I saw, I liked the ones from Pentax the best. The images have a nice balance, not so contrasty as to be garish, but not blah either. Mostly not razor sharp (though the exceptions are wonderful) but still very, very sharp. Good to excellent flare control, which is not all because of the SMC, some optical designs are more flare prone than others. Good control of barrel/ pincushion distortion, but not so as to impart over much chromatic aberation, and vice versa. I recall either reading or being told by a mentor that the two were inter related. I do think the Pentax lenses are more prone to coma, but I don't find that as irritating as other problems, and it may contribute to the nice boke that Pentax glass often has. Anyway, you are right, it is very subjective, but for myself, of the lens systems I could afford, I liked Pentax the best. For me, it was a decision based on looking at pictures, not charts or spec sheets. William Robb -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway.
Re: And now: the *ist D vs. the EOS 300D!
William Robb wrote: For me, it was a decision based on looking at pictures, not charts or spec sheets. And =THAT'S= what it's ALL about or at least, it's supposed to be -- Later, Gary
Tamron
Does anyone have any hands-on with the Tamron 90-300 f/4.5~5.6 AF lens? Looking at one for my grand daughter so I'm not looking to spend a ton but do want something that's decent enough to use for sports photography that may end up being used in her school annual since she is on the Annual Photo Team. All comments, thoughts, and help will be appreciated. Thanks! -- Gary
RE: Pentax lens prices
When I used to snipe manually, I won a few auctions with one second left, but get this, one time I won with ZERO seconds left. Thats right, the time of the bid matched the end time, to the second. In the event of a tie, YOU WIN! JCO You win? The first to have bid the amount wins, no? In this case, you must be the last one. Andre -- what I was trying to say was that if your bid is high enuff, you dont need to bid before ending time, it can be placed AT the ending time, to the second... JCO I get it... Automatic sniping. Probably the best way to bid. You put the highest amount you're willing to pay and stop thinking about it. Andre --
Re: Publishing and digital photos
Jostein wrote: Weired story, Wendy. OTOH, a renowned nature photographer in Norway had an article coming up in a German photo mag, and the editor asked him for a slide. As the guy works with digital, he said he could send the raw file if they wanted. But alas, the mag wanted slides and slides only, so he ended up making slides from the digital files for them to scan... Go figure...:-) Both yours and his story sounds to me like lack of competence at the publisher's. Jostein Boy, you guys are really into publisher bashing! I think it much more likely the magazine has gotten too many low res jpg files and/or they have not gotten fully into the computer age with the equipment they have . The may have excellent technicians doing dye transfer or such that do them so well that it isn't necessary to get into digital. Or maybe they are film purists. If someone is shooting slide film - giving the publisher the slide seems much better , and easier for the photographer. But if it really is just incompetence at the publisher level (or non-up to dateness) where Wendy was submitting, she surely has the savvy to get around it by making a hi res file and getting it printed though a digi-lab , yes? annsan oh, btw, here's the photographer's website. He's a complete Nikonoid. http://www.naturfotograf.com/ - Pictures at: http://oksne.net - - Original Message - From: wendy beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pdml [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 9:27 PM Subject: Publishing and digital photos Someone on one of the mailing lists I'm on needed photographs for one of the chapters in her soon to be published book. One of the stipulations from the publisher was that they were not to be digital photographs as they didn't reproduce well. Anyone heard of such a thing? It certainly surprised me to hear it. Is it ~that~ obvious if a photograph is digital? If I took a file down to my local photolab and got them to print up an 8x10, is anyone going to know that it wasn't from film? Hot Air, misinformation or what? wendy beard ottawa, canada http://www.beard-redfern.com
Re: Tamron
I've never done a lot of sports photo work, but my first reaction is that that sounds like kind of a slow lens for what might be low light conditions. I've also always heard that rule of thumb is usually a max of 200mm for hand held. - Original Message - From: Gary L. Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 3:41 PM Subject: Tamron Does anyone have any hands-on with the Tamron 90-300 f/4.5~5.6 AF lens? Looking at one for my grand daughter so I'm not looking to spend a ton but do want something that's decent enough to use for sports photography that may end up being used in her school annual since she is on the Annual Photo Team. All comments, thoughts, and help will be appreciated. Thanks! -- Gary
Re: Tamron
I agree with Dave in principle but, looking at the photos that we chose to put in my high school yearbooks ( I was on the staff), anything where one can kind-of recognize the subject is probably good enough. :) I can't imagine now, some thirteen years later (yes, I'm THAT young), what the heck we were thinking printing some of those photos. And where was the faculty advisor? Perhaps you can find something on the used market to suit her needs. Cory Waters - Original Message - From: Dave Miers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 5:29 PM Subject: Re: Tamron I've never done a lot of sports photo work, but my first reaction is that that sounds like kind of a slow lens for what might be low light conditions. I've also always heard that rule of thumb is usually a max of 200mm for hand held. - Original Message - From: Gary L. Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 3:41 PM Subject: Tamron Does anyone have any hands-on with the Tamron 90-300 f/4.5~5.6 AF lens? Looking at one for my grand daughter so I'm not looking to spend a ton but do want something that's decent enough to use for sports photography that may end up being used in her school annual since she is on the Annual Photo Team. All comments, thoughts, and help will be appreciated. Thanks! -- Gary --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.538 / Virus Database: 333 - Release Date: 11/10/2003
Re:OT-Hookers-was: *ist D aftermath
The things you learn on this list!! vbg thanks, Butch, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Butch Black [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip Major General Joseph Hooker was head of the Army of the Potomac during the American civil war. A large group of courtesans traveled with the army and got dubbed Hooker's girls, eventually shortened to hookers. Butch Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself. Hermann Hesse (Demian) _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
Re: And now: the *ist D vs. the EOS 300D! (And my little Sony PS)
Hi, Shel, Welcome back, even if your stay will be brief. We missed ya here! cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: And now: the *ist D vs. the EOS 300D! (And my little Sony PS) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:02:30 -0800 Hi gang ... and then continued, talking about Digital stuff that doesn't interest me... vbg _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/viruspgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
Frankencam v2 details up...
much sooner than I thought. fanfare http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/mods/eoskmount.html Mutley Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: *ist D aftermath
On 12/11/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: 3 - Over time I have changed all my lenses to AF and picked-up what I would call the pro stuff so results have met all my expectations. Ah, er, I mean, erm Doesn't have the same connotations on this side of the pond :-) In the UK, the word pro is roughly synonymous to the US hooker (another trivia question: why 'hooker'?) Actually John, I wasn't thinking of that, but since you've taken the bait, can you tell me what the 'pro stuff' is.? I'm all ears :-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
RE: Tamron
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I agree with Dave in principle but, looking at the photos that we chose to put in my high school yearbooks ( I was on the staff), anything where one can kind-of recognize the subject is probably good enough. :) Ha! I have this kid who assists me sometimes. He emailed me from his expensive boarding school to ask if a 1DS was sufficiently good for yearbook photos. Er...yeah, it probably is. tv
Re: Zooms
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bucky) wrote: OK, so my Tokina 28-80 ATX Pro is a bit soft and big and heavy for the *ist D. Are any of the Pentax zooms in that range (with the exception of the FA* 28-70 f/2.8, which I cannot afford at present) particular standouts? I quite like my Sigma 24-70 2.8. It's not small, though. --- John Dallman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: on the topic of Frankencameras..
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rob Studdert) wrote: It's only at that price point because it has Leica printed on it, it will probably be made in Portugal too. The sensor won't be. Since in my day job I play with high-end computer chips (Itanium, Opteron, Power4, etc.) I spent a little time today thinking about the ways chip fabrication and price compare in the two fields. A McKinley Itanium is about 400 square millimetres, and sold for about $3500 each, in quantities of a thousand. The APS-sized sensor in the *istD is around the same size, and sells for about $700 in the same quantities. In both cases, you have to get the silicon area masked, etched and deposited in several layers with zero significant defects, So the first question is Why is the *istD sensor so cheap? Two reasons that I can see: * It required a lot less RD, because the design is simple and repetitive * It's a bit more resistant to defects, because its feature size is a lot bigger: around eight microns as opposed to about a fifth of a micron. So really small defects can end up having no effect on the CCD where they'd kill the CPU, but big ones will wreck either. But the bigger area of a 24x36mm sensor is a major pain. Defect rates ought to be proportional to area, but that would only happen if the chips were made on infinite-size sheets of silicon. Since they're fitted into 8 circles of silicon, the boundaries make life much harder. Without doing the algebra, I'd guess that the defect rate would go with the 3/2 power of the area. If I'm right, that would make it about 30 time harder to make a defect- free full-frame sensor than an APS-sized one, less a factor for the bigger feature size, modulo the respective companies' abilities at operating their chip fabrication plants. And Intel, who make the Itanium, are about the best in the world at that. So I'll do a bit of research to clarify those figures, but I have no trouble believing that full-frame CCD sensors can cost $7000 each, which would fit well enough with the price of the Nikon pro DSLRs. Leica will charge as much for a camera back as Nikon would for a full body, of course. --- John Dallman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: *ist D aftermath
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Dayton) wrote: After having purchased and used your new DSLR, are there any of you who now have second thoughts? Perhaps wishing you had gone the Canon or Nikon route instead? Given the opportunity to do it again, would you still purchase the *istD? I reckon so. I like the handling a lot. Even further, would you recommend it above other choices to someone else who doesn't have any investment in Pentax Glass? Well, I bought it thinking I could use my elderly Pentax glass rather more effectively than I actually can. So the lenses I mostly use on it are ones that I've bought for it. So if I had known that, I would have looked harder at the competitors - but I'd probably still have bought this one. It /feels/ right, even though I still haven't learned all the bells and whistles. --- John Dallman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OT: CLA + Rocky Bullwinkle
Why, it was Natasha Fatale, of course! vbg cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Butch Black [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip Extra brownie points for the correct answer; what was Natasha's last name? snip _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcommpgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
Re: *ist D aftermath
You're treading on very thin ice with all this ear talk, Cotty! Very thin ice... vbg -frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip I'm all ears :-) _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcommpgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
Re: Pentax marketing (was Re: What is the high-end Pentax lens strategy????)
On 12/11/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: There are four young German women who run the whole campaign. We met them at Photokina 2002. They got into the picture after photokina 2000, and blamed Pentax for not targetting their real market with their ultra-traditional and un-trendy marketing. They introduced a style that, in their own eyes, would be better suited to the younger generation and more in line with modern marketing. Why am I totally not surprised at this? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
RE: Pentax lens prices
On 12/11/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: When I used to snipe manually, I won a few auctions with one second left, but get this, one time I won with ZERO seconds left. Thats right, the time of the bid matched the end time, to the second. In the event of a tie, YOU WIN! JCO You win? The first to have bid the amount wins, no? In this case, you must be the last one. Andre -- what I was trying to say was that if your bid is high enuff, you dont need to bid before ending time, it can be placed AT the ending time, to the second... JCO I get it... Automatic sniping. Probably the best way to bid. You put the highest amount you're willing to pay and stop thinking about it. I'm a manual sniping kinda guy :-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: Tamron
On 12/11/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: I've never done a lot of sports photo work, but my first reaction is that that sounds like kind of a slow lens for what might be low light conditions. I've also always heard that rule of thumb is usually a max of 200mm for hand held. Dave Miers, say hello to IS. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re:OT-Hookers-was: *ist D aftermath
The things you learn on this list!! vbg thanks, Butch, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Butch Black [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip Major General Joseph Hooker was head of the Army of the Potomac during the American civil war. A large group of courtesans traveled with the army and got dubbed Hooker's girls, eventually shortened to hookers. A funny story, it may be urban legend: Apparently, some of the late general's relatives live in Connecticut. One applied for a vanity license with the family name, and was denied (for obvious reasons) They then sued the state for the right to have that plate stating that it was an honorable name and a historical figure. I don't know if they won or not, but can you imagine letting your teen age daughter borrow the family minivan with a license plate HOOKER on it :) Butch Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself. Hermann Hesse (Demian)
Re: And now: the *ist D vs. the EOS 300D!
On 12 Nov 2003 at 14:37, Gary L. Murphy wrote: William Robb wrote: For me, it was a decision based on looking at pictures, not charts or spec sheets. And =THAT'S= what it's ALL about or at least, it's supposed to be Depends how critical you are, nearly any current digicam will produce a 4x6 print that looks as good as film if not better. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: istD Histogram display
i use some 1800mAh NiMH batteries i have from some things i did a while ago and i have a set of 2000mAh ones too. the CR-V3 batteries are in the bag for just in case. if i have to break them out, it is because i am on an extended trip away from any power to charge my batteries with. just wandering around Staples, a local office supply chain, i see that the Duracell CR-V3's are going for $20USD a pair. i believe in rechargeables for environmental reasons. Herb - Original Message - From: Leon Altoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 6:50 AM Subject: Re: istD Histogram display Are you using the CR-V3 batteries? I have image preview turned off as well and I am up to 1100 images and the battery display still shows full power. I have a set of NiMH batteries ready to go but I don't know if I'll ever get a chance to use them as it looks like these lithiums aren't planning to stop.
Re: on the topic of Frankencameras..
On 12 Nov 2003 at 23:05, John Dallman wrote: A McKinley Itanium is about 400 square millimetres, and sold for about $3500 each, in quantities of a thousand. The APS-sized sensor in the *istD is around the same size, and sells for about $700 in the same quantities. In both cases, you have to get the silicon area masked, etched and deposited in several layers with zero significant defects, So the first question is Why is the *istD sensor so cheap? Sure they are complex devices however I'd suggest that your mistake is to believe that the cost that you see is directly related to the cost to produce. the cost is far less than you imagine and is primarily determined by what the target market will bear. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: Wide angles for *ist D
moving changes the size relationships between different parts of the composition in a different way than zooming. it't more noticeable with wide angles. i zoom specifically to get certain things in certain size relation to each other in the composition about as often as i zoom to fit everything in from a restricted position. Herb - Original Message - From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 9:19 AM Subject: Re: Wide angles for *ist D I can understand using medium wide mostly, and then not being wide enough and needing to zoom out as wide as possible (say, shooting a group in a confined space / small room etc). But if you had the big wide already, you could simply move forward to frame if you were too far back.
Re: Batteries, was Re: istD Histogram display
yes. the difference being that proprietary batteries usally are smaller and lighter for a given capacity. me? the batteries for a day's worth of my shooting aren't nearly as much as the memory and lenses. Herb - Original Message - From: Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 11:58 AM Subject: Batteries, was Re: istD Histogram display This reminds me of Michael Reichman's gripe about using AA batteries and having to carry a charger if you used NiMh batteries. He prefers a proprietary rechargeable. Doesn't he still need to carry a charger, unless of course he wants the camera out of commission while the battery is charging in camera?
Re: And now: the *ist D vs. the EOS 300D! (And my little Sony PS)
SHEL! we missed ya! From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: And now: the *ist D vs. the EOS 300D! (And my little Sony PS) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:02:30 -0800 Hi gang ... and then continued, talking about Digital stuff that doesn't interest me... vbg __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
Re: Publishing and digital photos
More likely, We made our rules 10 years ago and see no reason to change them. -- Jostein wrote: Weired story, Wendy. OTOH, a renowned nature photographer in Norway had an article coming up in a German photo mag, and the editor asked him for a slide. As the guy works with digital, he said he could send the raw file if they wanted. But alas, the mag wanted slides and slides only, so he ended up making slides from the digital files for them to scan... Go figure...:-) Both yours and his story sounds to me like lack of competence at the publisher's. Jostein oh, btw, here's the photographer's website. He's a complete Nikonoid. http://www.naturfotograf.com/ - Pictures at: http://oksne.net - - Original Message - From: wendy beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pdml [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 9:27 PM Subject: Publishing and digital photos Someone on one of the mailing lists I'm on needed photographs for one of the chapters in her soon to be published book. One of the stipulations from the publisher was that they were not to be digital photographs as they didn't reproduce well. Anyone heard of such a thing? It certainly surprised me to hear it. Is it ~that~ obvious if a photograph is digital? If I took a file down to my local photolab and got them to print up an 8x10, is anyone going to know that it wasn't from film? Hot Air, misinformation or what? wendy beard ottawa, canada http://www.beard-redfern.com -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway.
Re: I really like the MZ-S!
OTOH, I have hear persistant rumors of an upcoming Nikon F6. -- Bill Owens wrote: I would be quite surprised if Pentax, or any other manufacturer, were to release any more high end 35mm SLR's. I look for a less expensive DSLR, then possibly an upgraded Igital*Dist. IMNHO, the days of high end film SLR's are numbered, especially as the number of esoteric film emulsions continue to decline. -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway.
Re: MX battery misshap - MX light meter malfunction
Oh? That's the problem! MXen tend to sulk when they have to compete for affection against an LX. (GRIN) jmb wrote: Graywolf, Well, I bought it used with a winder. The winder works and even has the tab to hold the battery door closed! The shutter speeds sound fine. I'll have to test it against the meter on my LX. Thanks, John -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway.
Re: New Pentax SMC-DA 3.5-4.5/15-26
Hallo infos on the coming DA16-45 are on http://www.aohc.it/pressrelease/lns0308e.htm regards Rüdiger - Von: Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you, Rüdiger. It appears that you have more information than the rest of us about the forthcoming DA 16-45 (such as dimensions, filter size). Is there a web link for this information? Joe
Re: Tamron
IS ??? I might be having a blond moment here, but I'll bite...what or who is that..lol. - Original Message - From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 6:52 PM Subject: Re: Tamron On 12/11/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: I've never done a lot of sports photo work, but my first reaction is that that sounds like kind of a slow lens for what might be low light conditions. I've also always heard that rule of thumb is usually a max of 200mm for hand held. Dave Miers, say hello to IS. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: *ist D aftermath
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 13:26:52 -0500 (EST), John Francis wrote: (another trivia question: why 'hooker'?) US (Union) General Joseph Hooker during the US Civil War. TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
Re: Publishing and digital photos
At 06:11 PM 12/11/2003 -0500, you wrote: But if it really is just incompetence at the publisher level (or non-up to dateness) where Wendy was submitting, she surely has the savvy to get around it by making a hi res file and getting it printed though a digi-lab , yes? annsan Very cunning! Actually, I did just that. Fuji Crystal Archival stamped all over the back of the paper. Perfect. No one will ever know! Then the lab went and stamped the name of the jpg file on the back. Oops, bit of a giveaway. And they were rubbish too. I said no correction and I wrote it all down don't bump up the contrast I said. I even gave them a glossy A4 for them to see exactly what I wanted. I don't know what they did, but the black dog came out damn near orange! Sigh. Can't get the staff these days. Wondering if I can get away with a dye sub print from the olympus instead. Dave - what do you reckon? Will it pass muster? Wendy Beard, Ottawa, Canada http://www.beard-redfern.com
Re: Frankencam v2 details up...
fanfare http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/mods/eoskmount.html Mutley Cheers, Cotty Hey, Cotty, totally kewl. Marnie aka Doe Except you used third world workers, after all. :-)
I'm back
Been around...always shooting the Pentax (or my Russian cams), but I joined back tonite because I got my new *ist-D next to me! I am so pleased! Every lens I own will work on it! Rephrase, I can use every lens I own to take photos on it! Ofcourse the A, FA, KAF, KAF2 work as expected. My manual focus Tamron 300/2.8 works in A mode with its matched 2X, it also works and either way above with the Pentax 1.7X-AF - also works! My M lenses work with just a tiny adjustment in the Custom settings My Screw mount lenses work with the adapter My RUSSIAN and Carl Zeiss Jena medium format lenses work even. I tried everything from my Arsat 30mm to Sonnar 180mm Sonnar 300mm and even my huge Pentacon 500/5.6f worked because I have a pentacon to screw mount adapter that then works with my screw to K! My Pentax 15mm/3.5A worked fine, the Limited shoot beautifully. I think its over priced compared to comparible cameras, but its the onyl DSLR with a K mount, so its exactly what I need!
Mystery Photo
Hi Everyone. It looks cool, but I have no idea what happend to cause the light streaks in this photo www3.telus.net/public/gregpics/ I finally developed a roll of film that had been in my MZ-3 since summer (don't use it much since I got a Z-1P). This photo is from July 1st - Canada Day. I was on my balcony trying in vain as I do every year to get a decent fireworks picture. Maybe I accidently hit the shutter as I was stepping past the glass balcony doors and got some reflection in them. It doesn't look like any fireworks are occurring, so I don't think they are playing any role in this. Weird Greg
Re: Mystery Photo
Grey wrote: It looks cool, but I have no idea what happend to cause the light streaks in this photo www3.telus.net/public/gregpics/ It's interesting, even if a mistake. Ghosts? I would guess you got the sliding door in the picture (shooting through it) and the light streaks are actually reflections from lights in the room behind you on the glass. Or ghosts. Marnie aka Doe ;-)
